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FreakNik with J. Smiles · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and The Black Effect Network Talk.
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  Speaker 2: You're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning there for a new episode of
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  Speaker 1: We Talked Back, a show dedicated to you dreamers and chasers.
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  Speaker 1: It's your co hosts, a j holiday, your grade a day.
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  Speaker 3: What's up? Team, I dedicate this episode to you.
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  Speaker 2: Big bags and skinny bags, I love and everything in between.
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  Speaker 3: Bitch lost a couple of pounds. You see how you
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  Speaker 3: talk about us.
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  Speaker 1: Bitch just lose a couple of pounds and they start
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  Speaker 1: talking crazy about big backs. Okay, right, my stomach stuff flat, though,
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  Speaker 1: that's all that matters, Bitch. My whole body could be
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: big as long as my fucking stomach. I literally be
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  Speaker 1: talking to my stomach, bitch.
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  Speaker 3: No, I listen.
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  Speaker 2: I had to shrink my back a little bit. It
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: was getting out of control. Man, you shoulders.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: I got I got a new tattoo, like under my arm,
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  Speaker 1: kind like on that side, Like I'm like, I got
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  Speaker 1: this tattoo.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that was laying down. It was nice
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  Speaker 3: and flat.
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  Speaker 2: When you stand up, its folded. I can't even see
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  Speaker 2: that motherfucker when you stand up.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta tattoo look all his hell, bitch,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta feel it like if you open up that
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  Speaker 4: flat right there, it's a butterfly, not your butterfly.
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  Speaker 1: In a cocoon right on my backfat.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna get life right there.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little keiloid right under that tattoo,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get a tattoo on top of that.
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  Speaker 3: Ben Serio, Ma, your fucking business. How was your weekend? Goodness,
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  Speaker 3: that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: My weekend, y'all. I went to Napoi. I told y'all
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  Speaker 2: was going to Napo. I went to Napa, y'all, y'all
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  Speaker 2: gotta go to Napa Valley is so beautiful, it's so peaceful.
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  Speaker 3: It's very romantic.
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  Speaker 2: I went my sister and her wife, so it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: as romantic for me, but I did enjoy myself. I
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  Speaker 2: really invited myself on their romantic trip, honestly, but it
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  Speaker 2: was a vibe. We went on the train, it was
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  Speaker 2: like a four hour train ride, and we stopped at
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  Speaker 2: different vineyards and we tasted like twelve different wines over
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  Speaker 2: that time, and baby, by the time it was over,
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  Speaker 2: I was drunk ass at fuck. I wasn't gonna say it,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, drunk as fuck. Me and my sister and
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, like them bitches could drink
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  Speaker 2: copious amounts of wine.
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  Speaker 3: I had to stop. I had to stop. It was
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  Speaker 3: over for me.
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  Speaker 2: But that was my weekend. I had a good time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and then I shot to La. After I left Napa,
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  Speaker 2: hung out in La and then I went to church.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Sarah Jake's church, one church, the Potter's
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  Speaker 2: House in La and I really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 3: M h, yeah, it was great.
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  Speaker 2: So that was my weekend. I saw a nigga here,
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  Speaker 2: nigga there. You know what I'm saying, nothing to crazy and.
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  Speaker 3: Then sprinkle, sprinkling right one of my friends. He has
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  Speaker 3: a So Sunday I met.
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  Speaker 2: I met a woman in the lobby of the airbnb
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  Speaker 2: that I was staying in, and uh, she's a pr person.
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  Speaker 2: We got to talking about my podcast and things like that,
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  Speaker 2: and I invited her to church with me.
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  Speaker 3: So we went to church together, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then she invited me to a restaurant called Gris and
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  Speaker 2: Waffles in La and it was run by a black
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  Speaker 2: woman and that food was so good. But I was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to go hang out with one of my friends
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  Speaker 2: and he was like, hit me when you get out
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  Speaker 2: of church, let's go get some food. And I didn't
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  Speaker 2: hit him because I ended up going with her. And
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  Speaker 2: he messaged me that he pulled out his plane and
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  Speaker 2: we were gonna fly to Catalina and go to have
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  Speaker 2: brunch in Catalina and you ignored and I ignored that, nigga,
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  Speaker 2: I missed my private plane experience.
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  Speaker 3: The gris and waffles was good. Wait, you know it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't that good? So next time, what about your weekend?
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  Speaker 3: I ain't do nothing. You really lying?
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  Speaker 1: I do not be lying, like literally, Okay, I am
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  Speaker 1: preparing to go to New Zealand, right, so I gotta say.
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  Speaker 3: My coins, bitch. The plane plane ticket is over two
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars itself. That's gonna be so much.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be really nice. So that's when I
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  Speaker 1: have my fun. I have lots of pictures and stories
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  Speaker 1: for you guys. Okay, yeah, I'm doing much, bitch. I
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  Speaker 1: went to Costco this weekend, got me some gas tissue.
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  Speaker 3: Detergent. Yeah.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: Uh, Sea bass I love a good slice of sea bass,
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: sea bass. They have the best sea bass at Costco.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that sound fair, y'all.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: Let's get into stupid internet news for this week. So
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce girl.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry here she is with her country music. Did
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  Speaker 3: you listen like that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I listen. I listened. I listened. I listened again.
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  Speaker 2: My allegiance to Beyonce. You know, I like a couple
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  Speaker 2: of the songs on there. I'm not a big country
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  Speaker 2: music girl. I like country, but I'm not like a
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  Speaker 2: huge country music person. So I feel like someone it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to grow on me, you know, it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to grow on me, and I have to like
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  Speaker 2: get in my country bag because it's not it's not.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't really sound country though. Does it really sound
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  Speaker 1: like country music to you?
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  Speaker 2: The music sounds like country music. She don't sound country
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  Speaker 2: over the music to me.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So especially that song she talk about twerking, Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's how does song go get down?
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  Speaker 3: Get on that, get on that thing, and some ship
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  Speaker 3: like that. I like Jolene.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I like Jolene so that you know, the white folks
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  Speaker 1: are there up in an uproar right now about her
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  Speaker 1: having remade Dolly Parton's Jolene song because Joelene was begging.
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  Speaker 1: I mean lly Dolly Parton was begging Jolene in the
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  Speaker 1: not the fuck with her man, I just take her Beyonce.
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce is like, bitch, don't come over here with that bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: I'll beat you up because I'll beat your ass.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different. Nice little twist on
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  Speaker 1: the song, girl. I don't know which one it was.
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  Speaker 3: It's right, Tyrann. I like that one.
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  Speaker 2: I like Tyron, that's what Dolly Parton in it. And
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  Speaker 2: I like two Hands to Heaven. I love that one because.
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  Speaker 3: It was a guy on the sound. That's all made
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  Speaker 3: me manifest my husband.
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  Speaker 1: All I know is she was talking about twerking and
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  Speaker 1: getting little on the song. It did not sound a
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  Speaker 1: country song by any means. It's twenty seven damn songs
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  Speaker 1: on that damn album, man or twenty seven entries.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot. I just know it. And Beyonce, please
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  Speaker 3: don't drop no tour in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot afford. I'm still paying off I see I
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: put the tickets on uh Clarina, and I'm still paying
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  Speaker 2: for the last bitch, don't come out here with no bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to move this year. Don't start Beyonce.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I have an artist in our generation
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  Speaker 1: that I just love so much, like I like Beyonce.
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  Speaker 1: With Beyonce, I think I love Rihanna more, Right, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: I like the older artists whit in Houston, don't nobody,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't go to her. Yeah, I've been to
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  Speaker 1: a Beyonce concert, but I'm definitely not about to finance
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce tickets.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I can't figure my finance no more. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I went to a Whitning Houston concert last year though.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, So Beyonce didn't win an award this past weekend
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  Speaker 1: at the iHeart Awards.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know they have. We don't get invited
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  Speaker 3: to ship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I like the album. It's cool, it's cool,
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: it's different. I feel like, yeah, put your feet on
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  Speaker 1: the people neck. We take over all genres.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, because its ours to be getting with in
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: the first place. Let's talk about it. Even the term
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: boy was the term used to describe the black men
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  Speaker 2: who wrangle cows, and it was derogatory. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: white men were called cow hands. Black men were called
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  Speaker 2: cowboys because it was meant to degrade them.
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  Speaker 1: So and Cowboy Carters is actually was a group people
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  Speaker 1: who sun cowboy music country music. Excuse me sun country
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  Speaker 1: music or to me, written out of history. You would
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  Speaker 1: have never known about the Cowboy Carters if it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: for Beyonce. I did like that she included some of
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  Speaker 1: the current country artists, like that girl who has that
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  Speaker 1: song Buckle Bunny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's dope, She's dope. Yeah. So they're on a
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  Speaker 3: couple of songs too. I think it's not black people
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  Speaker 3: coming black country music this year. Yeah, we're coming ship,
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  Speaker 3: but they come in. I bet you they will. I
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  Speaker 3: bet you they will.
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  Speaker 2: And Kay Michelle she said she got a bouquet of
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  Speaker 2: flowers from Beyonce. Uh, you know, celebrating her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: experiencing the country realm. So Beyonce is so humble and dope.
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  Speaker 2: I love her so much because she got every right
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  Speaker 2: to be a nasty bitch if she wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: I think she is. She just appears not to be.
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  Speaker 3: But let's go on to the next stuff. What else
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  Speaker 3: do you got going on the stupid internet news shot?
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  Speaker 3: Aside from Diddy's stupid ass. Meghan Fox collapsed back at critics.
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  Speaker 5: So uh.
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  Speaker 2: There was an interview with Megan Fox and they were
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: talking about her drinking her soulmate's blood, a few drops
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: of Machine Gun Kelly's blood, and she compared it to
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: being blood sisters as a kid and like cutting yourself
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  Speaker 2: and like smashing your hands together. When I was a
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: little kid, we did spit sisters and we in our
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  Speaker 2: hands and smack them together.
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  Speaker 6: And like we're best friends, let's go blaying the mud.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: But I'm a country girl and I grew up on
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  Speaker 2: like a dirt road where we cought bugs and worms
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: and made mud pies and shit like that.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: So his sisters was normal. That is that a thing?
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  Speaker 1: And I've actually done the blood shit like not drinking
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  Speaker 1: someone's blood, right, but like you poke your finger, your
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: homegirl poke their finger and you.
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  Speaker 6: Touch them to gout and rub it together.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's splitting DNA.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know, you know, I don't see why
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: taking them people of vampires anyway.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why you would need to do that
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: with Machine Gun Kelly though. I mean, okay, soul mates,
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  Speaker 2: but drinking their blood is giving very much vampire in Brooklyn,
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  Speaker 2: and I just don't have time for it.
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: So now he's your sire, that's what I'm hearing. Yeah,
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: now he owns you.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: Now he like you know, like on the movies when
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  Speaker 1: the vampire bites somebody, then they give them their blood
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  Speaker 1: right to turn them, to make them like now I
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  Speaker 1: own you, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't with that shit.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: And now I've heard of this in the South where
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: you tall take your your minstrel and put it in
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: spaghetti and feed it to your man and he'll never
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: leave you alone.
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  Speaker 3: That's why people be talking about women from Charleston. It's
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  Speaker 3: a lie. I've never done no shit like that. I
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  Speaker 3: would never do that. First of all, how you getting
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: the blood? How'd you getting it? You got holding the
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: cup under your koochie and waiting for something to drop,
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: bringing out your tampon in there.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, that is fucking disgusting. I don't I don't love
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: nobody that much to be in there squeezing tampa juice, Yo, nigga,
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Just go if you want to go, just go.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: It's pretty disgusting though, But I don't know, But I'm
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: done something. What about spit people spitting each other's mouths.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: What is the difference? It's all DNA. Well what about
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: why is that so weird? What about uh?
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: The ritual of communion that is representation of the blood
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  Speaker 2: of Jesus and drinking the blood.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: Girl, we ain't get.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: These Christians around it while well sorry because I know
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: you are as well, but I don't want to get
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: people all riled up.
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: But that is my goal too.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: When somebody started talking about witchcraft and vodoo and voodoo because.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: They don't realize that they are.
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  Speaker 1: The difference between like somebody an actual practitioner is that
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  Speaker 1: we are consciously aware of what we're doing.
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  Speaker 3: You're being used by this thing. It's crazy word. You
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: are being.
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  Speaker 1: Used to participate in this thing and you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what you're participating in because it is a form of witchcraft.
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  Speaker 1: If you are practicing commune and you're eating a fleshmtual.
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  Speaker 5: To me.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, meanwhile, let me eat his skin like y'all tripping?
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: Y'all are really I don't do that type of ship
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: the fun anyway, do you kid?
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Somebody said she got nappy hair and.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: The girl, first of all, here's my thing. So I
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: have been not dragged because the bitch could never write.
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: But it's men mainly.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: So you know that guy that has that comedic store
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: in Columbia, I forgot his name, is an old man,
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: but he has like a pretty large following on Instagram,
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: so he posts like a lot of esoteric shit, and
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: so he's selling hair oil in his store, right, so
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: of course he's bashing the weaves. So he was posting
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: like a series of videos of how they cutting the
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Indian women's hair off and shit like that over in India.
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  Speaker 1: And I commented, and I said, those women are sacrificing
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: their hairs, their hair to the gods. And I put
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: the black one emoji with the crown on because there
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: is sacrifice in their hair. And who the fuck do
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: you see walking around with and on girl of men
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: was an uproar, calling me an elitist, said I got
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: a god complex and everything else, So be it.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: But it's just the truth.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: When you say things sometimes in the simple ast way,
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: people be fucking mad as hell. So while y'all trying
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: to bash us about wearing and hair, weave hair goes
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Doja Cat wearing her natural hair right, and y'all still
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: talking shit about that, So which one do y'all want.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't satisfy. I'm done trying to satisfy other
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: people with especially my esthetic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the nerve of you niggas who have
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: been talking about weaves since whatever. Meanwhile, half the damn
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: men on the internet got a beard and a lace
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: front now, so y'all been talking shit about how we
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: look and our aesthetic for the longest. Meanwhile, y'all want
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: it to look like y'all mama the whole time. But
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: we ain't gonna talk about that.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: But just don't listen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't knock it because some of these niggas look
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: ten times better with their lace wig on.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: They do their hair better. They do do the hair better.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: But let me tell you what you need to stop
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: is that black paint. Though I don't like that, I
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: don't like that.
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  Speaker 3: You dating a nigga with a lace front, low weave.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: I'll put it.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: I'll put that shit on my nigga, right. I don't
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: got a problem with it. Long as it look good,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: it looks natural, and you look handsome and feel comfortable.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I will glue them. I will glue that bundle hair
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: on your.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Head, that cool hair. It's so weird.
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: Though.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we know that women wear weave. I think
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: the men that wear the weave it's just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more discreet.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: So when you see the nigga without his weave, I
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: know a nigga he finally stopped wearing his weave. It
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: probably got too expensive and he just went back to
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: his ball head, which he looks really nice with.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Just go to Turkey. Turkey, you can go get your
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: hair installed in Turkey. It'd be about.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Twenty K, but you can get it. I got a
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: homeboy who did that too. He got his whole hairline back.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I got a stay with you away bit.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Just be on the plane coming from the dr with
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: the ass wrapped up. It'd be a plane full of niggas,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: but they had wrapped up.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I remember.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: It's so funny because she had just got back from
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: the surgery and she had to have like this compression
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: band around her head or whatever. And we was talking
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: shit to each other on the folder. I was like,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: blat you over there looking like Frankenstein talking shit.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: She got so mad at me. She got so mad.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: I just joke.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: May be mad when your joke hit hit, Like yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: oh uh yeah. So the ship with Dojha cats so
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: it says. The singer recently teased her return with a
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: single I can't even m a s C.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: What is that girl? Answer A jes z er child
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: that might be an.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Right, whose cover art featured a close up of her
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: blonde curls Now, the singer has taken to Instagram Live
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: due to some insulting comments made about the appearance of
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: her natural hair texture. On March Daria Doojah told Viers
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: that she was noticing a consistent pattern of commenters saying
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: her hair look like sheep and pubes and carpet wool,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: popcorn ship like that. But you know the thing, the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: thing for me is that what does the Bible say
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ look like?
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yep, all right, hair.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And white people y'all, y'all asses is not from Africa.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Y'all don't have hair a wall.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: And it's it's a call.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: And I went to a comments it's a combination of
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: black people and white people on there talking crazy about this.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Goddamn here that's what your God looked like?
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Nicks Nick.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Child Tyler the creator shows Gerard Carmichael.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do he really love Tyler?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know that dude is funny, man, He
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: like regular funny, like somebody who really don't realize how
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: funny they are.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: All right, so, y'all, y'all didn't see this.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: In the premiere episode of Gerard Carmichael's reality show, The Comedia,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: confessed to falling for the one longtime friend Tyler, the
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: creator y'all. In the self titled show, Carmichael recall expressing
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: his new found romantic feelings to the rapper over text
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, but the feelings weren't mutual. In
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a six second voice note response, Tyler laughed off his
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: calling the comedian a stupid bitch. Can you imagine expressing
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: your love for someone in there and getting called a
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: stupid bitch?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wish niggas would do that upfront like
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that then, that way, I don't have to spend a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: year right still trying to see what we where we are,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: what we're doing.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Just call me a stupid bitch right now. I'm not
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: mad at that that I ever called me a stupid bitch?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Your life? So mad at them? Is it an adjective?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Averb y'all be so mad at them?
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Magic?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Stupid is the adjective is the bitch. That's the now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: We like bad bitch, but you don't want to be
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: a stupid bitch. Facts. It's all about context. God damn,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: adjectives matter. Yeah, absolutely. I like titled Tyler the Creator.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I do want to know, like is he gay though
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: sexual orientation? I don't to know is he like is
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: lol Na's ex Willie gay? Girl? Who knows? Who really gay?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Everything is just fluid from here on out. I just feel.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Like, like Taylor said, Taylor said, she just say fluid.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: She said fluent, like he's fluent fluently gay?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Right, but you know what gay?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I saw this comedian over the weekend, and god damn,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I can't think of his name, but he said that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: everybody's gay. It's not like a light switch on and off.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: It's more like a dimmer switch. Like you know, it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: like a spectrum, like you could be the rock or
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you could be little nas ICs and it's a bunch
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: of in between.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: So that's what fluid is. Then, Yeah, that we're all fluid.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not fluid. You the light switch?
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like at this at this age.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I would have done everything I want to do by
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: this point, So I'm who I am, so I think fluid.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It's like all purpose, like all purpose of self rising flower.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: This is how some people are. They just be doing whatever.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like I want it's too dangerous out here.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Pick a fucking side.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Pick a side. That's how I feel about sexuality. Pick
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: a side. Well, there's so many different scary. There's so
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: many different sides. Though. That shit is fucking scary. It's
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: a what's a sixty sided shape? Octa hexagon? Bitch, I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: don't know, I'm scared. B is goodness, y'all. I'm settling down, okay, y'all.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: So I have you know.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I've been doing here for a minute, and I my
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: my clients range from anywhere from twelve to sixty five, right,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I've done women of all ages. And I reached out
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: to some of the ladies that I knew that actually
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: went to Freekneak, and I asked them.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: For a free nick story. So we're gonna listen to
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: them and we're gonna talk about it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, So this had to be nineteen ninety. My first
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: time going to Freaknik was a great experience, but a
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: scary one. I remember we were stuck in traffic, traffic,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: was backed up. We were sitting for like thirty minutes,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: but it was so many people, people walking through the traffic,
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: and I remember the guys that we were riding with
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: got in an argument with some other guys. I don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: even remember what the argument was about, but one of
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: the others dudes just walked up to the car and
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: pulled the gun on us. That was like the scariest
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: moment of my life. I saw my life flash before
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: my eyes and that was my first Freaknik. I did
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: return after that, again a great experience, but that was
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: a scary one for me.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Not you almost get killed and then come back.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Motherfucking six flags six Flags of Atlanta.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: But imagine like you're just sitting in traffic and people
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: are just walking through the cars, hopping on top of cars.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: It's a lot going on. But you don't hear a
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: lot of stories of people getting shot and killed at
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: freak Meat, you know, you know, like there might have
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: been like some violence and some like rape, but shootouts
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: that's the thing of now.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I don't even remember hearing any stories about anybody
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: like getting jumped or beat down, like.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: How people be beating people.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: To death at events now yeah, okay, let's see next collar.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Freak Meat ninety four, Me and some friends decided to
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: see what freak meat was all about. We weren't of age.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: We lied to our parents told him that we had
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: to babysit overnight, which wasn't unusual. So we drove down
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: to Atlanta with our shorter shorts on and our highest
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: plumy tails. God to Atlanta, got stuck in traffic, but
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: we had a ball dancing, jumping in and out of cars.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Well we happened.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: I happened to jump into this guy's car and he
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: was really nice and back then, you know, we played
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: a little dangerous. So we hung out all day long
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: and into the night. So me and my friends were tired.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: They told us we can come back to their room
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: to take a nap. So of course we got back
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: to the room. No nap was taken. Me and the
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: guy that I was with. You know, we had been
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: talking all day, so I felt like his little girlfriend
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: and we did things. But when it came down to
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: doing the thing, this man was huge. I had never
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: seen anything like that before, so he could see the
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: fear in my eyes. By this time, my mom was
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: blowing my pager up because she hadn't heard from me
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: all day and I was supposed to check in. So
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: I started crying because I knew I was in trouble.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: He said, what you're crying for? I said, my mom
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: is paging me. He said, well, yo, mom, how old
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: are you? I said, I'm seventeen. This man like he
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: saw a ghost. I told him I'll be eighteen at
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: the end of summer. He kicked me and my friend
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: out of the minute we were. We headed home. Got home,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: of course, got in trouble, but I had the time
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: of my life, and the year after that and the
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: years until Freak Meat Stop. Me and guy hooked up
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: every Freak Meek. What a time to be alive.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yo, Not you was under age out there about to
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: see that man in jail.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: He did the right thing by getting your ass about there.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I see you next year.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: That's just look, those are some smart people at Freak Meek.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I don't give a fucking nobody's saying. That's when black
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: people was at their greatest, not your dick so big.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I started crying, but I went home for the I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: went home for the summon practice a little bit, got
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: on that ship for the next few years. I hear
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that they was in a Freaknik relationship, Like, did you
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: realize that the transcript said freaking meat.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Because that's what it was. That's exactly what it was.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: It was a freaking meat age. We got a guest on.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all saw the Freaknek documentary on Hulu,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: but I felt like the documentary was like very I mean,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it was good, but I felt like they left out
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: some juice because they want to protect the images of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the people who participated.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Well, we got a guess on today.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Jay smiles, y'all, and she is telling us about Freaknik
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: from her personal experiences, y'all.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: So, y'all stay tuned. It's gonna be real good, y'all.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Today's guest been outside because outside been open. You probably
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: caught her funny commentary regarding Freaknik on Instagram. She's a
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Howard University graduate who participated in the Freaknik Summer Games
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: of the nineties. She's a fellow podcaster who was reminding
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: her audience to never forget to laugh with their show
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Parenting Up, a podcast creative for caregivers of Alzheimer's patients.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Y'all, welcome. Jay smiles. We talked, Dad, what's up.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Look, I didn't realize you were a comedian, like for real,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: for real, going on?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: You're on tour now?
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Because I know you.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: You're traveling right now?
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely So the tour, the East Coast tour finished
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: up at the top of the year. The West Coast
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: tour is going to pick up in the middle of
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: the spring. So that's ramping up right now as we speak,
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: and we're getting the dates finalized. So I'll do the
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Southwest and Cali, making my way up to Washington and
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Seattle and all that, so everybody stay tuned for those dates.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: How long have you been doing stand up comedy? Because
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I mean you're you're a Howard University in Stanford graduate.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: How did this come about?
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Right, it's crazy, it's crazy.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: That is not something.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I tell you what.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: I didn't go to school for comedy. And if my
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: grandfather was still alive, he would be like, where they
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: do that at? And why why the hell are you
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: out there making a fool of yourself. I ain't send
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: you to college for that. So Howard and Stanford. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: went to Howard for mechanical engineering and I worked for
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Ford and had a dandy time. As they would say
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: back in the day, what was over. I was in
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Detroit working for Ford when the American Automotive thing, when
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: we were banging and we were beating Toyota, So that
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: was fun. Worked over in Spain, and then I went
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: to as a mechanical engineer. I went to Stanford Product Design.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I loved it for just let made toothbrushes. Did y'all
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: know people actually designed toothbrushes?
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: I know normally people just go to the store and
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: just grab a toothbrush whatever might look good with their bathroom.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: Like what colored toothbrushes do y'all have?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Like the ergon mix of it all?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: An ergona and the bristle, Like we get down into
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: the bristols like point oh one versus point oh oh two,
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: and you girl good, said y'all, it's a whole thing.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: People are making millions of dollars on the diameter of
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: the bristl.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's a.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Big one because some of these bitches think their breastink
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: they need to be diamon.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, people talking about Alfiicia your hair fall down people,
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: gun was falling out to y'all. Real talk.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: So so you went from like making two brushes and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: then you was like, fuck that, I'm about to make
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: him laugh?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: How did that happen?
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, Well there was a pause where I was
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: a lawyer working with U. This is Johnny Cocker had
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: so ship.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So you hold on, hold on. You went from twoth
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: brushes to a lawyer, to a comedian.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to a hairstyleas that's right, to the drug dealer.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that, okay.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: Some sprakers, and then I was a vegan cookie baker,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: so I really was a lawyer. My dad started the
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Cockran firm with Johnny Cochran, and there was a point
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: where I was about to take over some stuff and
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: do some stuff. But then Johnny decided to die, and
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I was like, why do you want to do that
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: while I'm in law school. You could have told me
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: so I could have not go to law school. Anyway.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: That was that, and then my daddy decided he wanted
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: to die. I was like, dude, what for real, that's
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: not cute?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: So oh wow that was traumatic.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was dad. My dad died. When
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: he died, it made my mom. My mom and my
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: dad were I knew they were close, you know how
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: they talked about folks get being together, and they together
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: too long and one died the other one gonna die.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Basically Dad on the couch. Why he and my mom
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: were watching a football game, you know, and with their
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: ninety days, my mom had.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: He was watching the Cowboys, wasn't he, No.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: You hate you hate them? Yeah?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I do. I'm sorry you like.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I don't hate them, I just hate their fans.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: He hated them too. He's a Giant fan, but he
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: Blucky Cowboys, Hazey Cowboys, the Giants and the Falcons. Do
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: you like the falcons anybody? No, I just don't like
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: the falcons. They keep looking.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: So you were saying your mom, they were watching the football.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: In the football game, and uh, my dad was just like, yes,
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: I think that's enough for my time here on earth.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: I think that's about it. Uh and I'm out as sink,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. His transitions were always poor
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: and uh that what was too? Yeah, he ain't had no.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: I was like, yo, bro, this was that was really
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: not cool. But good thing for my dad is he
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: always said, baby, I just want to fucking drop dead.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: That was his shit and he did so. He was good.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: He was happy. It was kind of it sucked for
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: me and my mom. Fast forward though, literally like within
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: ninety days, my mom went from being went from being
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: really sharp and very intelligent and running her own business.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: She's absolutely a wee talk bad kind of chick. And
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: my dad supported that in her and in me. And
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: she was like, if my dude is gone, I don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: really know what daity is. Should I eat grass? And
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: should I sleep in the car? You know what I mean?
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: Am I supposed to wear shoes on my hand? This
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: chick just was her out. And so she had Alzheimer's
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: and needed brain surgery like within three or four months.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: And that's when I became a caregiver. So I stopped
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: doing law and engineering and everything overnight to take care
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: of her. And that shit was hard. It wasn't fun.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: I started making really poor decisions. A lot of it
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: involved Remy Martin seventeen thirty eight. I think I bought
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: more of they shit for about three years. I helped
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: their stock crisis, for sure. It was me. It was
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: me and Puffy and them girls.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I got shit. I just gotta disclaimery. If you got
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: dick like that, I wanted Okay, just put it out there.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Made me lose my shit in ninety days. Nigga, that's
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: a nigga. I want all right, go ahead, I'm.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Sorry, listen, listen. I don't want it. Yeah. So it
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: was Rinby Martin seventeen thirty eight, Real talk, a lot
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: of sex with random dudes. I was like, So, I
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: was like, okay, so kanyak random cock. I was like,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: oh shit, I'm about this close to cocaine. I probably
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: need to pull up right. This is not a good look.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: My doctor was like, yo, Jay, you try to die
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: before your mama. I was like, well, that's stupid. I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: an only child. And I was like, I'm really not
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: trying to what damn doc, You could have gave it
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: to me a little little mold honey or sugar some shit.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: And that's when I said, Okay, I gotta find something
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: to ease out some of this stress, right, so I
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: can cope with life a little bit better. And that's
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: how I fell into comedy. I didn't know I was
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: going to fall in love with it and actually make
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: a career of it, which led into stand up in
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: the podcast, which is what I'm doing now. Both of
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: those are full time. But this is where the hell
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: we are. I've been a caregter for twelve years and
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: I just made nine years as a stand up comedian.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to you on that, man.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You know what it's I find that most of the
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: comedians that I hear about experience some trauma and that
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: sent them to comedy. Like it really is a coping
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: mechanism for a lot of comedians, you know, for themselves.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: They make people laugh to heal themselves. Yes, so that's dope.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: So all right, you have this series called freak Neek Tales. Yes,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: shit's fucking hilarious. So we wanted to get into that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: because you know, that freak new Hulu documentary came out
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and I was so excited. I couldn't wait to see
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: everybody Mama and Aunties that I knew on their but
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't get to see nobody. They kind of like
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: definitely gave us the PG version. They wanted to keep
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: everybody who had careers now in their careers. They really
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: protected everybody who was at Freakneek.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: But everybody was scared.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Because online when they when people first heard that the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Freakneek documentary was coming out, you had lawyers doctors, mamas,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: pastors coming out like you know, it was no it
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was no internet, no cell phones back then. Why the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: fuck y'all trying to out us now? So everybody was
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: scared as fuck.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: So all right, tell us about all right, your first freaknek,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: how you decided you was going, how you heard about it,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and what happened when you got there.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, now that's a lot. Okay, I heard about it,
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: how I knew I was going. Okay. First thing is,
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: road tripping in the nineties was like absolutely a necessary
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: thing to do. Everybody did it. You were going road
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: trips somewhere to do something anyway. So when Freaknick became
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: the thing, it was no big deal to say, all right,
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: this is what we're about to do in ninety I
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: think I'm pretty sure. In ninety two, I was a
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: new Delta, so road tripping, and I'm originally I went
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: to Howard, but I'm originally from Alabama. So now you know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: freak Nicks in at atl and I was born in Atlanta,
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: but I grew up in Alabama. So I'm like, I'm
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: about to go home and got this nail your own
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: weddy dudes, at what party? I hope I make it
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: back to class, right, And so it was like, I'm
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: about to come out on these foods, and they're not
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: ready for this because now I'm wrong wrong. I left
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: the South a girl, a little girl, and now I'm
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: about to come back down here. How popping, hid your husbands,
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: hid your kids, because I'm about to be in these streets.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: And so the idea was they are ready for me.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Let me go because now I got some DC and
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: me some go go. I not know house music, I've
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: been you know, dropping it, load off the little loop
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: stuff because I grew up on that, and it was
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: what better thing could you do for spring break? Then
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: go find everybody else that went to an HBCU or
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: maybe went to a PWI and they wish they went
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: to an HBCU. And we about to descend on it, right.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: And you heard about it with flyers and word of mouth.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: But that's how you heard everything in the nineties. That's
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: how you heard around the new music that was about
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: to come out. That's how you heard about what clothes
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: were cool. I mean, word of mouth was everything. And flyers,
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: street teams, street teams with all over the world meeting
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: the country putting flyers up on light posts and bus stops,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: and they were like two colors. They were black and
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: white or red and black, like whatever color the paper was.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: And then just like somebody had written in black marker
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: black exactly.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Niggas as manual as a motherfucker manual fucking exactly.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: And you know, you had friends who went to the
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: various with the schools at whatever city and they were like, hell, yeah,
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: come on down, you got a place to stay, or
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: once you get here, just tell us, let me know
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: when you get into the city. And that's what's gonna be.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: What's up right, And so you've heard about it through
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: word of mouth, and you were like, I'm about to
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: I'm about to be down there, you know what I'm saying.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: So so like you that's about to say, you ain't
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: like three homegirls powdered to a cutlass like what happened?
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So who was a cartographer? Because who was reading the map?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Because y'all ain't have no cell phones? A map quests?
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: So I the hell y'all knew where to go?
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: Not? Yeah? So what the best part about it too
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: was even playing in the road trip. So you had
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: a couple of things you could do. First is you
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: could ask your daddy or your mama, Hey, how you
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: get to Atlanta from d c ask one of your professors. Hey,
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: so listen, you were originally from Atlanta, right you? Like
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: you literally are lightweight, just asking real adults because you
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: ain't a real doult. You like nineteen you playing, you
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: barely you playing. You can vote and you could go
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: shoot a gun and somebody in a war, but you
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: don't know what you're doing. You ain't paying no kind
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: of taxes. You are really fucking up your whole life
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: kind of a little bit. Your credit is getting trashed.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: It's a whole mess doing. Is anybody else a real dolt? You? Like, hey,
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: sodw Hey, so how you which way is Atlanta? You
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: really are just asking random ass adults whatever you see it,
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: like in class or whatever. And you can talk to
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: your mom like, hey, so mama, Auntie so and so Atlanta? Right,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: so how do you? How do you get which highway
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: gets to Atlanta? Like literally, that's how you just kind
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: of lightweight, just asking little shit like that. And then
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Triple A was the fucking bomb because anybody who had
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Triple A, your daddy, your grandmama, anybody, you could just
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: have their number, and they usually gave us their number
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: because they knew you never know where your child is
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: gonna end up, so just give them the triple A number.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: So if they got a flat tire and they.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Somewhere with there, my mama shit to this day.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So you had the number and you could call
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: in and tell them, Hey, I'm going from DC to Atlanta.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: I need a trip tech.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Girl.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: They would sending to you in the fucking mail. It
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: looked as thick as a damn encyclopedia. It was pages
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: and pages and pages and shit if you did it
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: far enough in advance, or they would just tell you
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: over the phone, you write that shit down, Okay, So
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: take Exit twelve, get Old ninety five, drive three hundred miles,
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: then take exit and you're right, okay, I'm sorry. Excuse me, ma'am.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: Could you say that over again? My pen ran out.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: A cryptic interesting Damn a bitch like me would have
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: been lost. I would have ended up in Dallas trying
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: to get to at Lana me.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Look, you know you get up there. You forgot the
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: second page. So then you just pull over, go to
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: the gas station and ask some random ass man at
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: the Texico. Hey, I'm trying to go there Atlanta. Am
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: I in the right direction? Am I on the right highway? No? Baby,
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: you had it. Baby, you had it to Savannah. Okay,
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: what you need to do is get back old, go past,
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: go past those cows and pass that big water tower
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: about twelve miles. Make you turn.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing y'all was determined, determined to get
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: y'all heart asses to Atlanta.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: When we see the cows turn left, like that's crazy,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have made it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I probably would have because that was just what you
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: had to do. You know. That was the way. Let
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: me before map questing all them.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Things, let me tell you how determined we were. One
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: of my girls, her man just bought her a new car.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: He graduated before she did, and so he was trying
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: to make sure that she ain't find nothing new. Okay,
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: before she before before they got to get you know
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So they graduated, he graduates before she
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: buy him a Look, he buys her a new car.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: She ain't, No, she need to break the car in
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: before she got on the highway. Baby girl gets on
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: the highway just like the damn car breaks down somewhere
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: in d Damn she leaves that fucking car on the
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: side of the road, towse that car to the toes,
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: that car to the damn dealership, the local dealership get
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: a rental car.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: To the their car. I'm trying to see about this
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: down here in Atlanta.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: A man that brought me the car, You right, I'm saying.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: She went on to Atlanta to the Freaknick her Man.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Next time she talked to him the next day, He's like, okay, baby,
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: did you get back to d C, saying, she said, DC.
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: Ain't nobody I've had.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: We went in a car, right, like what you're talking about? Yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: we didn't even what you talking about?
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: It eat? Then't nobody. Just get to Atlanta. Everybody ain't
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: gonna be fine. Just I can get there. One time.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: I remember times to uh, you know you literally riding
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: down ninety five holding up pieces of paper to the window. Hey,
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: where y'all going? Dudes going down like Atlanta? Us too,
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: us too.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: That's our pronoun us. Is the pronoun us too? Us
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: to meet you on Peachtree? Okay, twelve o'clock, nigga.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: So Okay, you made it to your first freak nig,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: what did you do? Like, did y'all see in traffic
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: once y'all got to Atlanta, Like I seen hear a
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: lot of stories about bad traffic.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: We weren't there, so we're trying to get, We're trying
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: to get, trying to live, Like, yeah, that's what we're trying.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: I got you, I got you. So yes, it was
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: always traffic, but it didn't feel bad. I'm gonna just
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: tell you that that that whole idea of the traffic
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: being bad and being negative, that didn't happen until kind
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: of after the Olympics, Like the Olympics changed the flavor.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: So I'm not gonna talk about that till a little
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: bit later. I'm just talking about the first couple of
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: years that I went and traffic didn't matter like it did.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: You didn't feel like you were stuck in traffic because
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: it was all love. People literally just rolled down their windows.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: You were playing the music whatever, fast ass like sixty
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: nine sixty nine Boys or T. L. Brown, right, dudey Brown,
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: all of that, all of that, and you literally could
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: put your car in park. Nobody was stealing. You could
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: put your car in park and had the damn music
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: still playing, and you could go stand on a dude's car.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: You know, right now, you can't even touch a nigga's
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: door knob okay without it wanting to cuts.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: You out car.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: You all kind of you could go stand on his car,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and on top of his car,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: top of the car, and he's like.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: Right, shorty, yeah, absolutely absolutely in the middle of the street,
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: people passing out full people passing out liquor, people kissing
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: and hugging and loving all each other literally like just
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: for that song. And then after that song went, that
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: was the end of that love affair with that man.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: That was it. Then you you know, you keep walking
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: down the street to the next car and the next
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: song you don't I don't know his name, you don't
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: know my name. Ain't nobody trying to exchange numbers or names.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: You don't know where nobody lived, where they're from, that's
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: for And ain't nobody trying to su where y'all and
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: trying to ask nobody exchange numbers.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying, oh wait, y'all didn't have numbers like that.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: You ain't have to exchange numbers. Never but I'm saying
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: just because you just because I was kissing you, just
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: because I kissed you, did not mean you were gonna
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: get my number in my name, especially if it was
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: early in the day. If it was early, if the
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: sun was out and we would dance, that's too early.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: Numbers got exchanged in the dark, like somebody. If it's
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: nighttime and we on Pea Street and we party, and
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: maybe it's time because you know, at dark times, people
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: getting chose. You know what I'm saying, it's time. We
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: were making decisions for the night, where we staying, who
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: were staying with right the room. I mean some people
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: had winter bagos. Folks was ready to winter bagos and
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: driving down. Yeah, people were taking me like y'all was rich.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: In hell back then. No, we talked about nineteen and
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: twenty year olds. Yeah, but about just any niggas in
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the argument.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: It was where they shipped they money though, you know
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like you did might not be able
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: to eat for the rest of the semester, but you
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: didn't really care because.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: I got to that freaky Yeah. Well, okay, so y'all
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: y'all didn't did y'all? Did y'all have cell phone.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: Though not one, nor no pai so pages pages on
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: our here baby, we had quarters, so that's the number
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: to pay phones, yes, which is why you didn't really
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: need to exchange telephone numbers and all of that. With
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: too many people. You're like, listen, listen. Just whoever you
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: were went and around that meant some. By the time
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: night was falling, you were like, okay, because this was
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: right here, might be worth something for the night. Whoever
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: you were playing with what the during the day, because
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: you ain't got for so many courts. You know how
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: hard it was to keep up with a quarter.
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: Because I got okay, one of them is to call
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: the dudes that I decided I like today, and the
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: other one is to call my girls to be like, wait,
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: somebody come get me because this didn't work out.
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: You need two quarters by the end of every night.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: Sometimes we because you ain't have enough room, you know
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: what I mean, Because because what if your girl got chosen,
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: you ain't get chosen sometimes and you be like, I
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: don't want to be with his friend. Okay, okay, but
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: you gotta suck it up. If your girl like his friend.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: You were like, damn, okay, all right, I'm gonna take
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: one for the team, but I'm not gonna be with
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: his The friend is ugly. Okay, I'm not gonna meet
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: with him, but I'm gonna just hang right outside the
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: room in the hallway to make sure you good says,
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So if you if I
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: hear something fucky coming out the room, I'm gonna check
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: check on you. But I'm not going in there with
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: his boy. Fuck that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: So would it be like choosing a different nigga every night,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: like you might pop some couchie every night with somebody different.
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: You could that was available to you if you would like.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: That was available to you if you would like.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Hmm, and you want a horror so and you.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: Were not a whore. See, that's that's that's what's so.
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: That's some time I tell you a j That's what
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to tell you about freaking Nick being it
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: before what kinda existed in the Marvel universe. That's what's
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: so beautiful about it, because we had this one set
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: of days where everyone who showed up in Atlanta you
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: knew what it was. You understood the assignment, and you
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: knew it was like this. It was a privilege it
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: was we were proud and it was a privilege to
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: be there, and it was a protected space, right. It
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: was like, all right, we about to do this. We're
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: gonna let our hair down, We're gonna party, We're gonna
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: get it, We're gonna get it in and then we're
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: gonna go back to wherever we live. I ain't gonna
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: see you no mo and it ain't nobody gonna talk
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: about this shit no more. And if I see you,
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: like next year or something with my husband or my
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: mama and the mall, ain't nobody saying nothing. Ain't nobody
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: will be like, oh, bitch, I saw you with Joey
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: uh mouthed by your ankles on top of a pickup truck.
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: No nobody talking about it?
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Right, Oh what a time to be alive. That is
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: women wholes.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: It's probably definitely some new age, new age shit, which
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: is why a lot of the women were concerned. And
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: it feels like it seems like on the internet people
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: were only bashing women that in this day time, people
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: were only bashing the women at freakning. But I definitely
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: saw somebody looking Kouchi through jeans on a documentary and
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: nobody talking nobody really talked about the men and what
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: they did a Freakning.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: The men were absolutely out of control. First of all,
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: we weren't out of control on ourself.
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: Because in the nineties there was not a public, open
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: culture of shall I say, a freedom of.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Bisexual, homosexual or just.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: Freedom homosexuality, bisexuality and definitely transgender. You didn't see that
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: in Freaknik. For the most part, Freaknik was what you
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: saw on display in most of the presentation appeared to
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: be heterosexual. I'm not saying that it was all heterosexual,
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: because listen, I wasn't with everybody. I had a hard
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: time keeper of my own self, Okay, I didn't always
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: know what the hell out so but what you saw
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: for the most part appeared to be heterosexual, right, and
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: it appeared to be college people. Now, everybody might not
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: be in college, but there was certainly college age. And
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: the dudes were absolutely out of control. They had most
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: of them didn't had their shirt on. Okay, a whole
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: lot of them had their like cut off shorts and
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: stuff that you know now they be like the hooja
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: daddy shorts and stuff like that, and they were popping it.
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: That's what I want also, everybody know these dudes were
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: not walking around looking all damn cool and just doing
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: a little slight bopping a two step. These dudes were
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: putting their shoulder and they back into it. They were
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: taking it down, they were scrubbing it. They had their
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: knees in, they back in it. They were popping they
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: dicks as hard as we was copping out, you hear me,
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: because if you couldn't pop it back, we want to
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: actually see that hip thrust.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, let me see that hip thrust he had back.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: Yes, had to be able to dance as uh energetically
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: as we were, or we wasn't fooling with him. We
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: were like what you you're not about to just watch
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: me sweat and grunt and burn all these calories and
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: you stand there like a tree. We wasn't following for
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: that ship. Like no, no, everybody gonna have skin like now,
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: like now, like everybody in this circle doing this monkey dance.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: The Matan calls.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: It was and they did it like they and it
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: wasn't like I couldn't believe dude down there, poppa this
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: ass like a chick. No, they listen, and the ones
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: that could stay down there and popped it hard, would
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: end up with chicks on both sides right, so some
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: chick would be front and back right, And the longer
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: his knees could keep him down there than the most
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: chicks he got. And by the time he got up,
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: chicks are like, so, now, bro, where you had it?
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Because you like you got
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: some stamina.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: It's a nigga at work right now rubbing his knees
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: because of that shit you're talking about.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: It's a nigga somewhere right now rubbing his ranney. Like
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: God damn, I need to be replacement.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Can you tell, like a story of something that happened,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: something that was significant, anything like that memory that was
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: like when you're old, you're gonna be like, damn that year,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: that moment that freak meek God damn.
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: I have several.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, is there any that you're willing to share?
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, absolutely absolutely. I have a couple. Okay, I'm
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with two. The first one is we
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: uh me and friends. Well the beautiful thing get it together.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to start. Is I know if aunties
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: be lying, y'all go ahead. Not clean that ship up
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: in your mind.
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: You see it all on my face. I'm like, okay,
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: so now so then what happened was then a hummed
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: you know, criminal a herming bird came saw Jesus, So
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: what with school too? That I want to say is
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: how much you didn't have to just stick with the
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: people you came with. And that's about what this story
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: is about to be about. It's like you. You you
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: came there usually with your girlfriends, or if you were
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: a dude, you came with with your with your dudes,
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: but you didn't have to just stick with them. Like
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: you you normally ended up kind of around a certain
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: block because you couldn't go too much further than that, right,
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: or you ended up add a certain party or a
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: certain part of ped my part, and you did not
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: travel much further than that that particular day, just because
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: the crowd was so massive. But they didn't have to
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: be like, oh shit, I don't know nobody else and
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: I ain't really fucking with heard because we from Detroit,
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: not La. There were there were no turf wars at Freaknik.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: Didn't nobody give a shit. Okay Howard and spell When
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: in Hampton, everybody got loved, you know, Detroit and New York.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: Everybody got loved is all good like that. So so
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: I was always a little shall we say, chatty, all right,
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: and I ain't had no problem telling the dude. He
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: was fine and said what's up, bruh and all the
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: good things. So I got lost it from my group.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: So the crowd was they kept going and I'm talking shit,
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: and so then I'm with some dudes. And then I
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: ain't had no money, i ain't had no phone, you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: So I'm just kind of out there. But this whole
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: group of sisters from the West Coast just took me in.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: They started feeding me. I'm partying with these chicks all
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: for the whole rest of the day. I don't know
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: where none of my people are. And you gotta understand,
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: ain't no damn cell phone. I can't even get on
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: nobody else's Twitter and say, you know, meet me by
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: the flag pole, no shit like that. I'm just with
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: these folks, clowning with these dudes all fucking day and night.
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: Do you hear me? And then randomly, as I'm just
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: walking down the damn street, one of my girls are like, y'all, Jane,
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: that's where you been? And I'm like, oh, y'all, how
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: come I forgot? I was supposed to even be with them?
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: My day went so good?
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: Real shit, I wasn't even looking at them no more?
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: Do you hear me? I'm walking down the street with
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: my new friends and these new dudes, and I'm just
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: them to the hotel. Do you hear me? My girls
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: are like, y'all even, and I'm like, oh shit, right, y'all,
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: what's up? Yeah, y'all come over here and me. They're
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: life many and where you going? I was like, y'all, baby,
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: be half. Y'all found me because I listen. I was listen.
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: I weren't nobody even looking for y'all. Do you hear me?
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: I wasn't looking for them. I wasn't scared, and I
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: didn't care.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: All right. See, that's a different time.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Like right now, you can't even do that and be
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: safe because somebody might harm you, drug you, even the
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: women you know.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like that? Agent?
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, I did get drugged by a white
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: girl in Europe, A white girl molleyed me.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: That was not a freaking not Molly Molly's you Molly.
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: Girl. Yes, dam that's another whole podcast I and I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: wasn't ready because I said what she Molly herself, which
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: is why I didn't know then what she was doing.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: She was like, hey, she was like, I had drank
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: up all my drinks and so I'm out there doing
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: all this ship. I'm in Croatia. This like this about
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: before Kobe, Oh this.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Ship, this happened to you. Yeah, I'm not. You got
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Molly last year night. You got Molly last year.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: That's why I steal over outside, been over town and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: should I do this? I do this? So I had
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: finished my drinking and I said, She's like, oh my god,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: you're so much trying. What you know, I'm about to go,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: she said, why, I said, but the drinks are gone
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: and I'm about to go to the next five. She said,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god. She said, oh,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: get another one, Get another one. I've been drinking this
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: da Da da and she's drinking all the same fucking
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: kind of drink. So I'm like, yo, this hell of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: Then Molly herself and me.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: In one drink. Yes it was a she put it
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: in your drink.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, it was a couple of black women from
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: Damn America who saw the ship going down, praise all
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: the Jesus and got my black mass and drug me
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: away from her. And then I know it was Molly
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: because the next day I felt fine do I mean
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: like I was. I just threw everything. I threw everything up.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: But my I was just like what up? I'm all
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: waking up doing toe touches. And they were like, bitch,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: you tried to run. You was romotion and walk on
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: water like you. Jesus, you were like you anywhere?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah that I go down, So okay.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: The other way was this. Let me tell you all, okay,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna do this in real fast. I hit on
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: my fucking cousin.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Fred, Oh Lord have mercy, and he hit on me back.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Did you all right? Tell us the story?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: We didn't know it.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Y'all didn't know. Y'all was kidding hold on the first
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: second or third cousin.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: No, No, we knew we were cousins. That's how blue
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: out we were.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: He's real, not you fuck your cousin at freaking No.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: I ain't say I funk went too far.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't say that, now, she said, And they hollered
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: at each other, rumors and.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: See that you go there you go always do too much.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: So it was you know how I told you, Like,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: you know, you start out playing with everybody during the daytime,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: but boyt the night you guys start, you know, decided
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: what you're gonna do. And we walking down Pea Street,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: me and my girls. We see a nice group. It's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: about four five of them. It was about four five
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: of us. That's a nice matchup. So back then you
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: don't even try to see does everybody like everybody we
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: all the same height? Funck all that, it's the numbers match.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: So we headed toward each other and everybody just started
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: flirting with somebody and it'll all work out. And so
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: I see the all this one and I'm not tall,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: but my father was tall, like I'm about five to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: My mom was five two. My daddy was six too,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: So I like tall dudes. He tall and chocolate. I'm like,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: say less, I'll roll up on this dude and we
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: just talking shit. But like, you know, we like this
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: this him, this me, So we talk and shit. Look
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: it looked like we about to have fight on the playground.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: We walking around each other. You know, I'm feeling on
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: his booty, he feeling a little bit on me, like, what,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: so what to do? Showy, I'll throw a nigga, what
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: you do?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: What you got?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, well, what you doing tonight? Nothing? You got
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: somewhere to go? No way for me? You trying to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: eat or what what you're trying to eat? You know
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: all this kind of shit. We talking shit, y'all. We
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: rolling around each other talking that I kind of like
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: came up just kind of like about his chest.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: So after we decide everybody think everybody is fine?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: Yo?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: Did I look up and he looked down, And when
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: we lock eyes for the first time, we realized who
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: the fuck we are? This is my whole cousin. Like,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: it's not like we've been talking so much shit walking
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: down the street, like hey, nigga, hey, are you thinking?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: What you got?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: What you know?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: We do so much shit talking in a crowd. I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: never really looked at his face, was just looking at
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: this body. And then we liked and I was like, like,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: I told my girls, I'm going home. I'm leaving right now.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: This is too much. Where you going I'm running down
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: to They like, wait this, I'm going to church. I'm
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: going to church right.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Ship. She was about to hook up with your cousin.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: My mama is his Godmama, like I know him, like
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: he ain't no way distant cousin. That's like this.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, shit, young, your cousin cousin and my girl,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: he's too cousin. Your cousin cousin know my.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: Real I mean, this is my blood fucking cousin. Like
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: he come to my grandmama house with Thanksgiving.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: I was like, I still look at my brother staid,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: this is too much. There us all too much, all
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: of this. I'm going on going home.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I would have been like, let's switch. What do y'all
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: switch with?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: So on the documentary on all the people in documentary
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: and were saying that nineteen ninety four was the best freaknique.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah did you go in ninety four?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: What you had on What you Want? Ninety four?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Did you have on Kouchie cutters boy shorts.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: By shorts but not Guccie cutters, absolutely booty shorts and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: I normally I'm pretty sure I had on Doc Martins
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: because I was rocking the boutas shorts in Doc Martins
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: was was my ship? Right? Like I was like, hell, yeah,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: I want to see but you also I also wanted
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: to be able to like walk, you know what I mean,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: or like if you were in there in the grass,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: or if you were in the street, or if you
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: jumped in and out of somebody's car. You know, you
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: need some stability for your ankles. And I like shirts
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: that had something kind of funny on it or something
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: that was kind of like a something to talk about, right,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: like either like a black Bart Simpsons shirt that we
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: had black. We had Bart Simpsons shirts where Barn had
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: dreadlocks and shit like that. So somewhere that would be
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: like oh sor I say, I see you, I'd be
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: like what you see when you talk about like, you know,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: plain white ash shirt. I'm gonna give you a conversation piece, yo, man,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: Come on, baby, what your mama told you to sell me?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: What would you say made ninety four more special than
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: the other years? Or do you agree with that?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: I do agree with the fact that ninety four was
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: the best year. I think, uh, it was kind of
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: a map. It was a combination of things. Number One,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: I think the word had really gotten out about like
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: just word of mouth had traveled real good by then, right,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: and the Olympics hadn't happened, right, Like, you know, I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: think if the Olympics. Now, I'm happy that the Olympics
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: came to Atlanta overall, but if the Olympics didn't happen
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: in ninety six, I don't think ninety four would have
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: been in the ES the best year. I think in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: ninety six, you know, I mean, I think every year
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: would have continued.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: That was like the peak for Freaknink.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, ninety four was the peak because of the Olympics.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: That's my personal opinion. But when the once Atlanta secured
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: the Olympics, then the city changed the way they responded
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: to Freaknik. Not that the Freaknik goers started to change
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: what we wanted to do. When the city started to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: change how they allowed where we could go, then that
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: changed the freedom we couldn't. We couldn't just kind of
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: flow and meander and be it. You know, it made
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: it way too restricted. I personally believed that the dynamics
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: of Atlanta getting the Olympics made the city this Well, no,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: then that what made you stop going.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 9: I moved, I graduated, I graduated college, and I moved
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: to Detroit because I was then an engineer for Ford and.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: Therefore sent me to Spain. Right, So it was a
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: combination of I I was no longer uh, I wasn't
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: even in the United States, and I heard that things
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: were changing, and I was like, well, damn, they're not
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: letting us kind of meander and mingle. That's that's what
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: it was about, like the freaknik being. The destination was Atlanta,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: there was no address. The address was Atlanta, Georgia. You
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: were not trying to I don't think I ever. I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: don't know that I ever made it to pee my part.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: I really was trying to remember. I don't ever remember
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: actually putting my on peed my part brass. I don't
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: think like I think I kind of saw. That's the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: part down the street, right, I see it. There's like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: two blocks away. I ain't never quite get there because
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: because who cared. You didn't nobody I didn't care about,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: and you didn't care about who you saw. You didn't
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: care if you made it to the official concert or
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: the official party, that not that matter. And so I
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: graduated from college from Howard in ninety four, and then,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: like I said, I moved to Detroit, and then Ford
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: sent me to Spain. And so there's logistics. But then
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: It's also that I heard how it was changing, and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: so that's what kind of made me stop. But I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: firmly believe if the city of Atlanta, and I'm not
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: I understand as a businesswoman, and I mean I'm a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: very small businesswoman compared to the City of Atlanta, But
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: as a businesswoman and an entrepreneur, I understand Atlanta had
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: a decision to make You're about you're trying to play
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: ball on an international level. Now, it was the first
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: time Atlanta was given an international platform. And what you're
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: gonna do? Right? Yeah? And so freakent coming April, and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: the Olympics are coming in the summer. What you're gonna do.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: That was one of my questions as an adult. Now
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: looking back, do you understand why Freaknik needed to be canceled?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: And aside from the Olympics and all that, just all
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: the different reports of all the violence that was taking
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: place out there after I think might have been after
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: ninety four, maybe when.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Who weren't going to college got ahold of it.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: So you got the dope.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Boys coming, all the niggas coming up from Miami, the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: niggas forty years old coming to Roman coming.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: You know, so do you see now why it needed
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: to be canceled.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: We're from South Carolina, so we got olaf Fiers weekend.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Did you ever attend Demi? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think Freaknik could be successful today in Atlanta
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: like it was in the nineties, No.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: Not the way it was the nineties. But I do
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: believe that the spirit of freak Nick could be successful,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: Like you know, the spirit of freak Nick. Just meeting
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: a HBCU spring break something done by somebody. I think
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: that could be very successful. But what we did in
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: the nineties was so organic. The coordinators of Freaknik didn't
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: mean which which is what you see the documentary. They
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: didn't mean for They didn't know it was going to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: morph into what it was, right. It's some things you
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: gotta just starting, and then the people take it to
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: what they wanted to be. You know, Freaknick. As you've
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: seen the documentary, it was just it was hb It
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: was the Au Center. So people at Mars Brown, Clark, Moorehouse,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: and Spelman who could not afford to go back home
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: for spring break. They were from d C. And they
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: decided we're going to have a.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 10: Picnic and we're just gonna hang out for a day
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 10: or two just because we don't have nowhere else to go.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 10: We don't want to stay in the dorm all damn week,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 10: because everybody else went somewhere for spring break. Maybe they
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 10: went to Bikers to Black Bikers Week, or maybe they
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 10: went to Daytona and so, but eventually everybody said, well, shit,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 10: we now want to go to Freakentin if we want
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 10: to be.
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  Speaker 6: In Atlanta and be together. And you know, I believe
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: what happened was after Atlanta got the Olympics. Just it's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: kind of like what happens with super Bowl when people
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: go to the super Bowl. Because of the Super Bowl,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: a whole lot of people who don't give a shit
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: about football end up going to that city to do
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: illegal or immoral things and to take advantage of people
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: that might be young or weak or whatever. That's the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: same thing that happened, I believe after the Olympics. So
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: after the Olympics, you just got people in Atlanta who
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: are just trying to make that money on whoever, on
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: anybody in Atlanta that might be weak or vulnerable. So
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: they just hung around Atlanta. And so when Freaknick rolling around,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: they're like, oh, shit, you got all these young college kids,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: they have a really good time for a couple of days.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: They might be drunk, they might be high. Oh both.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: Let me go ahead, let me get this. I'm gonna
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: try to do some sex trafficking. I'm gonna try to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: put some of these girls into the prostitution. Okay, what's
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: the same thing that happens at NBA All Star Weekend
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: or Mardi Gras. But why are you gonna try to
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: act like it's different just because it's Freaknick. Whenever you
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: get hundreds of thousands of young people, even at like right, well,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: when all the white kids go down of Fort Lauderdale,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: they're doing the same shit. They do the same stuff.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: They're trying to pluck young girls, they've put them into
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: the system and go sell them out of the prostitution
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: somewhere in Taiwan. But the problem was because because of
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: the Olympics in Atlanta needed to look clean. You had
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: to fix it, Benny, Benny, benny fast. So I'm not
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: against them, say hey, rather than let freak Nick become
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: totally negative, let's end it. Because it didn't have any parameters,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: like there was no one place to put it. There
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: was no one place to take it because Freak Nick
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: was a street party on all the streets of all
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: of the Atlanta you know, So so what could so
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: what can you do? I think for something like Freaknick
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: to be successful, you really have to. It has to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: start organically from a pure place, the way the first
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: one did.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: But see now, even down in Miami, they're trying to
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: get rid of Memorial Day weekend down there too, where
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: black people tend to gravitate. You got all the locals like,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: don't come to Miami this memory of they weekend. They
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: have like commercials about the shit.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Now oh yeah, spring break too, don't come to Miami
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: for spring break?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Where are the kids to go? You know?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Like is there anything black? Is there any black event
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: for black college students?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Right now? During spring?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: They shutting down Miami.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: Not really, not really, They have to wait for home coming.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: Why they shutting down Miami again?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Damn, I should have been twenty the nineties. They just
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: said they don't want them to come there no more.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: You know, because I mean people go to Miami, but
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: then the locals they don't want those locals from Opa Laka,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: the Haitian niggas coming because the one time I went,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, Nah, never fuck again, because it don't
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: even matter if you fully clothed or you're ass hanging out.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: A nigga is trying to put his hands on your
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: anatomy and I don't go for that shit because I
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: ain't come back for that.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: And it's bitch as that came for that.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: Like it's hot.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't care. I'm bitchous. I'm you ain't come
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: for that ship. Shut up. I just be telling jokes.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: These be jokes. Please don't think you could motherfucking touch
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: me out right getting shot.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Do you think freaknik influenced today's sexy reds and all
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: these people that the aunties because we you know, people
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: might consider us aunties. We talked about how people are
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: out here wilder now. But do you think like the environment,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: like a freaknik environment, that whole kind of influence what
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: we see now because we're talking Uncle Luke, we're.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Talking about Howard. Yes, I think, what do you think?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: I think it was a part of like the pebbles
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: that just pushed forward women having more say so the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: whole we talk back now in a more but the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: front part like Freaknik before the Olympics. I like to
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: kind of say the nineties, I mean free Nick from
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: the eighties to like I'll even say ninety five just
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: before the before the Olympics, because it showed that was
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: kind of the beginning of where you really Before then
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: you didn't see women as much having controlled or having
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: something to say. But that was at the same time
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: where Salt Pepper was then coming out with their videos,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: like you mentioned aDNA Howard or Quainn Latifa, So you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: had emc light. You had these artists that were our age,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: who yeah, who are exactly who were also saying things
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: that that were letting the world know. We got something
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: to say. We talked back, you know, we got something
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: to say right now about current issues, either about who
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: we're dating or the money we want, how we want
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: to dance, what we want to wear, how want to
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: wear our.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: Hair, on women more agents.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: But we didn't come out of Freak Nick saying all
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: we gonna do is we did not We didn't pussy
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: come out of Freaknick saying all we're trying to do
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: is get a nigga to give us some money and
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: then and then fuck you and then you kiss my
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: ass and then you know, Cake rocks nigga. You know
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: what I mean, Because that is like would be technically
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: tearing apart our community. And that wasn't the purpose of
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: Free Nake. The purpose of you know, the Freaknik that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: I supported and went to wasn't to say, I'm about
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: to go use these niggas and it just you know,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: have fun, half sex, get a whole bunch of food,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: and then and then trash all black men for the
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: rest of my life. No, you know what I mean, Like,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: we're all supposed to come up and get up, get better.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: Let's make money, Let's make love, Let's have love, Let's
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: make babies, Let's get married. Let's take over Wall Street.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: That's take over the world. Let's get private jets, let's
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: have houses, Let's get guccie bags. But let's do it
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: all together. It's not ended up hating each other.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Well we so this.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: Whole gotta take it from you to get mine because
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: you ain't ship. That's that's not Freaknick.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because Freaknick the girls that Freakingik went on to
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: be lawyer.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: Comedians, President of the United States.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: For that party, got that hand.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: That's that's something that was, and I was telling that
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: to some of my younger cousins. I was like, yeah,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: the thing is, we did all of that ship. And
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: also on the way back from Freaknick, I had legit
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: an old school ass flashlight in the backseat of the
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: car doing my calculus homework on the way back from
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: Freaknick because I'm about to turn these fucking pages in
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: because i still got to go to class, because I'm
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: not about to get fucking put out of school, right
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: because I got it grind, I'm still get this job
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: before and they still about to still meet the spring
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: the goals was different.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm also out of quarters, so right, the thing
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: was we all win.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: It, right, the thing was, And now what we're gonna
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: do at Freaknik, though, is we're gonna party our ass
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: off in a way that we can't do anywhere else, right, like,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: because that was so big and then in the nineties
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: and at HBCU's period is you can be your full self, right,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about race being an issue.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: So because we did go in the eighties, we would
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: go to the white spring breaks because we had no
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: all the spring break right, so they if you could
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: You would try to get to dayte to beach or
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: you would try to get to whatever, and you were like,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: they don't they don't want us here. They're not they
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: don't want us on their beach, they don't want us
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: at the little restaurants and all that. So when freak
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: Nick started to expand, it was like, oh shit, every party,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: every parking lot, every the hood of every car, I'm welcome.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: I can't do no wrong. Like whoever I start dancing with,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: he gonna dance back. If everybody got a cool a
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: beer or drinks and hunch punch in their car and
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: all you gotta do is walk down the street with
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: a cup, is somebody gonna pour you part of their
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: beer in it? It was fake, but it was like
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: the biggest, baddest family reunion. But to what related to nobody?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: It's such at one time it was really my cousin.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Listen, we have a segment on We Talk Back called
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: dumb bitch stories or for the men. It's a SIMP series,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: So we want to know a time where you got
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: played by that same opposite sex whatever it is, but yeah,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: you got a dumb bitch story for We Talked Back.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: We want to hear it when we come back after
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: this commercial dumb bitch stories.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: So because we've all been a dumb bitch at least
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: once or twice.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all we back, Jason have a dumb bitch
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: story for us.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I was, I was the dumbits, right, we're trying
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: to make everybody feel okay about these experience.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: So dude was telling me we were just supposed to
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: be friends with benefits. We agreed to it. That's all
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: we gonna do. We're gonna be friends with benefits. And
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: I was like, right, this is great, this is all
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: I want. And then dude, by the year into it,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: he said, Jay, I want to take it to the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: next level. It's time thing to the next level. And
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: I was like, I don't want to do it. I
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: don't want to do it. I don't think it's right.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: I don't want to do it. But y'all all, y'all
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: know how sometimes it just the presser gets too good.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: And he was good, and it was good. All the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: things was good. He was like, please, babe, baby, please
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: just let me try. I want to be more. I
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: think we can do it more. I want to be more.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: I think we can do more. So I said, Okay,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: we're gonna do more. Let's be more, Let's do more,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: all right. I love scuba diving, so I went scuba diving, y'all.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: I went scuba diving and believes. All right, So I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: go scuba diving. The way you get to this place
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: where I'm scuba diving is one fucking plane in the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: morning and one plane in the afternoon. Only four people
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: can be on the damn plane going and coming. I'm
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: leaving the plane. I'm leaving on lands. Some people get off.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: It's this nigga at his fiance. Yeah, your man, my
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: me and my me and my man.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: God, damn man, believe that bitch Beyonce LANs.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: Four people get off this the plane I got to
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: get on to go home. Four people get off? Is
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: this motherfucker and a bitch with a ring on her finger?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: And I look up and I said hey. He said
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: said you you you wanted more?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: And I called him, called him over. He said, yeah,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: we need to talk. I say, nigga about what mhm,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: she got a ring on?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: God, that's your.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Right, because how are you running to him and believe
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: on a plane to go Scooba diamond.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. That was like God.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: Were playing folks see it and you told that fool okay,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: like a couple of months before, I just said, all right,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: we can we can go ahead and be something. We
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: can go ahead and be something and do something.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: And he was.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: And then did she say something to you? Did she
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: look confused or like what happened? You didn't say like
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: that's my man.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: Nobody else American at that whole airport, but she knew
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: what was up. I called that nigga over and he
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: came right over to me, hugged me, kissed me. She
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: played her role and just walked right on into the airport.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: She ain't stopped. She ain't say nothing to me.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Shame.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: That's really not a dumb bit like you weren't a
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: dumb bitch. The only readon you would be a dumb
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: bitch is if you continue to fuck with him after
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: that day?
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Did you? Yeah, a little bit, but you still see
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: that's the dumb bitch part.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: That's done. That's when he came, come on, baby, don't
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: add like that. You know ana love you, You know
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: a nigga, love you, girl.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they can find you.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: Instagram, j smouse Comedy, the single letter J Smiles Comedy.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: Then my website is Jsmiuscomedy dot com. My podcast is
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 6: parenting Up. It's on uh Spotify and Apple and uh.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: I think that's that's the best ways to get at
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: me and the outside being open. A comedy tour will be.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: Like I said earlier, the West Coast portion of the
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: tour will be coming up in the latter part of
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: the spring, so look out for those states.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: And we definitely got to look out.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. This was so
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: much fun. I almost felt like I was dead. I
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: wish I could have gone. Man, damn, I wish I
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: could have gone.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: We definitely was planning, low ass, bitty ass little girls
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: planning to go to Freaknick. Really y It's like we
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: was really gonna get there, absolutely sure.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Nah, I wouldn't. I didn't even have no plans. I
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: knew that wasn't in the forecast for me.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: I was pissed.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: By the time we got old enough to actually maybe go,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: it was over with, it was done.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely well, thank you so much Ja Smiles joining
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: us last week.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: Oh so much, so much. Keep doing what you're doing.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: I love your energy, I love your brand, I love
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: everything about we talked back.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Hey, thank you girls, we appreciate it. Y'all heard that listen.
• 1:29:56
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