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55KRC Thursday Show - Warren Davidson, Signal 99, Judge McDowell, Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 5.05 at 55 KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 2: Friday Eve. Almost there.
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tally, neither do I. But that's typically the case.
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  Speaker 2: It's still 5 o'clock hour. I'm not quite awake. Most
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  Speaker 2: people aren't this time. Doing my best, though. Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 2: right here. Glad to be glad to have Joe Strecker
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  Speaker 2: as executive producer of the 55KRC Morning Show. Another plug
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  Speaker 2: for Joe. Have him produce your podcast. See, I'm allowed
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  Speaker 2: to do as much free advertising for Joe Strecker as
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  Speaker 2: I want because I'm not getting anything free from Joe.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't do his job better because I mentioned him.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't even ask me to bring him up. But
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  Speaker 2: he sure could use the extra income, as could everybody.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want to do a podcast, Maureen, I
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  Speaker 2: know you're out there. He'll produce your podcast. We had
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  Speaker 2: an exchange yesterday, Maureen and I, my pattern-observing friend, and boy,
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  Speaker 2: she had a real bombshell to drop on me the
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  Speaker 2: other day in terms of what she believes is coming.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm really convinced yet, but gird your
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  Speaker 2: loins and be prepared, I think is ultimately the conclusion
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  Speaker 2: I read, if what she predicts is going to come true.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm being elusive on that, but wow. Anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: crazy times. What do we got going on today? Not crazy,
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  Speaker 2: but really good. Congressman Davidson shows up, 7.05 on a Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: How the campaign's going. We've got a topic list with
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, including the Railroad Responsibility Act, which he introduced
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  Speaker 2: back in 2024 to deal with railroad crossing issues. We
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  Speaker 2: had a Laughlin fire crew try to respond to a
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  Speaker 2: house fire on the way a train was blocking the
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  Speaker 2: rail crossing, and the neighboring department respondent wasn't able to
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  Speaker 2: get there in time. Could have gotten there in under
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  Speaker 2: a minute, according to the Laughlin Fire Department. It took
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  Speaker 2: him seven minutes because of the train stall there. So
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  Speaker 2: whose responsibility is it? How the Supreme Court ruled that
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  Speaker 2: federal law preempts Ohio restrictions. The state had previously set
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  Speaker 2: limits on railroad crossing blockages, along with penalties that go
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  Speaker 2: along with doing that. So his view, railroad crossing blockages
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  Speaker 2: are local issues, which I tend to agree with him
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  Speaker 2: on it. Where in the Constitution does it say that
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  Speaker 2: the federal government is responsible for issues involving railroad crossings
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  Speaker 2: within the state boundaries. And also $ 92 million in funding
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  Speaker 2: from the Rural Health Transformation Program coming to Ohio. That's
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  Speaker 2: going to help rural hospitals, apparently, with maternal and behavioral
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  Speaker 2: health services. We'll get Congressman Davidson to break all that
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  Speaker 2: and a whole lot more down. Whoa, what is going on?
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  Speaker 2: 7.30 here on the 55K RC Morning Show, bringing the receipts, she...
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  Speaker 2: The figurehead of the website that is Signal 99 always does.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the bombshells that dropped yesterday, and I
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  Speaker 2: haven't found it online, but we all know Signal 99
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  Speaker 2: has the receipts. Channel 19 just reported it. What did
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  Speaker 2: they just report? Well, kick back and enjoy the shot
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  Speaker 2: in front. If you're no fan of city manager Cheryl
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  Speaker 2: Long and the cast of characters that runs the city
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  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals previously had
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  Speaker 2: ruled that Cheryl Long can be held personally liable. allowing
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  Speaker 2: former Fire Chief Washington's suit to proceed, basically guaranteeing him
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  Speaker 2: a large paycheck, with Cheryl Long having to cover any
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  Speaker 2: responsibility and damages that she caused personally out of her
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  Speaker 2: personal finances. Well, they appealed that. And back is when
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  Speaker 2: all of the appellate court judges hear a specific case. Now,
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  Speaker 2: three judges, a three-judge panel hears appeals in the first effort.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it will grant a rehearing and bank. They all
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  Speaker 2: sit down. They say, should we hear this thing as
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  Speaker 2: the entire group of judges from the Sixth Circuit Court
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  Speaker 2: of Appeals? They did. And of the 19 Sixth Circuit
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  Speaker 2: Court of Appeals judges, how many of them upheld the
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  Speaker 2: lower decision? Nineteen. No dissent, 19-0. And the original decision
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  Speaker 2: actually had a dissenting opinion in it, so I think
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  Speaker 2: that one judge who previously had issued a dissent in
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  Speaker 2: the basically two-to-one decision, originally finding Cheryl Long personally responsible
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  Speaker 2: or will be personally liable, I guess if that judge
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  Speaker 2: was sitting in back, because I guess he should have,
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  Speaker 2: or she, change of mind. Anyway, 19-0. That is amazing
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  Speaker 2: right there. No question in all of their collective minds.
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  Speaker 2: So congratulations. Former Fire Chief Washington. And I know Signal
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  Speaker 2: 99 is going to get all over that when she
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  Speaker 2: joins a program at 730. Also the Hinton trial. So
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  Speaker 2: the jury did not reach or was still deliberating after
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  Speaker 2: I think six hours yesterday in the Hinton trial. And Joe,
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  Speaker 2: when you read Signal 99's post on the Hinton trial,
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  Speaker 2: do you get the impression she is maybe upset? Just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit?
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: On fire. It hurts my fingers to even hold the
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  Speaker 2: paper copy that I printed of her online ranting about
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  Speaker 2: the Hinton trial. Anyhow, we'll hear from Signal 99. I'm
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  Speaker 2: certainly looking forward to that. Plus, she's going to tease
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  Speaker 2: an upcoming segment here in the 55 KRC Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: An entire hour on juvenile court justice Judge Blum. Well,
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  Speaker 2: to the extent you don't have enough reasons to vote
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  Speaker 2: her out of office concerning the sorry state of the
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  Speaker 2: juvenile court system in Hamilton County, well, you might have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of reasons after you hear Signal 99 on that.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, looking forward to the tease. Judge McDowell in studio.
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  Speaker 2: Vote McDowell. 805. And then iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff,
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  Speaker 2: of course. Always enjoy talking with Jay. Always enjoy talking
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  Speaker 2: with you, too. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Pound 550 on AT &
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  Speaker 2: T files. What do we got going on here? I
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  Speaker 2: have a million different places I can start. Real quick here.
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  Speaker 2: I was shocked and amazed to see that campaign ad
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  Speaker 2: when it first came out. Again, Ken Blackwell is the
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  Speaker 2: first place I saw it, although it was brought to
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  Speaker 2: my attention. The one where Amy Acton's mom talks about
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  Speaker 2: Amy Acton being a liar. And at the time, I thought, wow,
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  Speaker 2: this is really remarkable. Have you ever heard of this happening?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe someone did in some random race somewhere that, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: someone's parents turned on them. And I don't know. But obviously,
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  Speaker 2: this kind of thing rarely, if ever, happens. It was
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  Speaker 2: like with much amazement. I was reading that. She must
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  Speaker 2: be really worried for the voters of the state of
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  Speaker 2: Ohio to come out swinging like that. But then again,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know the backstory that these allegations of rape
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  Speaker 2: against her stepfather happened. The estrangement of Amy Acton and
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  Speaker 2: her mom. They haven't talked to each other in a
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  Speaker 2: long time. So, okay, there's a backstory. Now, this whole
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  Speaker 2: thing's become this, oh, my God, I can't believe they
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  Speaker 2: ran that ad. Okay. Now, you want to go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: And I was thinking about the little mechanical monkey with
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  Speaker 2: the symbols. Oh, look at the monkey.
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  Speaker 6: Look at the monkey.
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  Speaker 2: Don't pay attention to the reality of this race. This
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  Speaker 2: little cul-de-sac of, oh, I'm disgusted. Oh, my God, how
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  Speaker 2: could they do that? Fine, you can argue about the
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  Speaker 2: propriety of it all day long, who knew who what
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  Speaker 2: and whether this is an appropriate ad. And let me
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  Speaker 2: step back from that point. Lord Almighty, in these political
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  Speaker 2: times where pretty much any damn thing goes, and no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not happy that we're there, but how can a
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  Speaker 2: campaign ad in modern political times really legitimately shock somebody?
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  Speaker 2: Are you really all, you know, butthurt and emotionally aggrieved
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  Speaker 2: and distressed and woe is me because this happened? No,
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  Speaker 2: you're using it as a distraction. Can we talk about
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  Speaker 2: who's qualified? Has Amy Acton's resume improved? Have her prior
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  Speaker 2: actions and activities changed? Did she not resign from her
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  Speaker 2: medical director position within a moment's time of accepting it?
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  Speaker 2: Did she not lock down the schools? Did she not provide, well,
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  Speaker 2: you can draw your own conclusions in terms of whether
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  Speaker 2: you're going to vote for her or Vivek Ramaswamy, but
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  Speaker 2: look at her resume. Is she in a position based
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  Speaker 2: upon her credentials to run the state of Ohio? She
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  Speaker 2: won't debate. That hasn't changed either. And while I just
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  Speaker 2: pray that she is recovered from the emotional distress and
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  Speaker 2: give her the benefit of the doubt this actually happened,
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  Speaker 2: Lord Almighty, you wouldn't want something like that to happen
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  Speaker 2: to a young person of any political stripe, of any background,
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  Speaker 2: at any time, anywhere. No one would wish that on anyone.
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  Speaker 2: And to the extent it happened, I'm really sorry for
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  Speaker 2: her that it did, but it doesn't change who is
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  Speaker 2: better equipped to run the state. And what I'm concerned
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  Speaker 2: about here, and I brought it up just yesterday, is
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  Speaker 2: this going to become a sympathy vote? Do her troubles
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  Speaker 2: as a child and the horror that she may have
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  Speaker 2: faced as a child, does that make her worthy of
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  Speaker 2: a vote? I said yesterday about the resume. You're preparing
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  Speaker 2: a resume to run for governor of the state of Ohio,
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  Speaker 2: or you're planning a resume to apply for a job.
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  Speaker 2: You must appeal to people to win the votes and
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  Speaker 2: the approval to get the position. Is that something you
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  Speaker 2: put on a resume?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: But here we are. I just beg people not to
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  Speaker 2: get distracted. And, again, these modern times, is it really
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  Speaker 2: to the extent Vivek Ramaswamy rubber-stamped it and said, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I'll run with this ad? Does that really surprise anybody
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  Speaker 2: in these modern times? And I don't know what he
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  Speaker 2: knew at the time, but he did, I guess, accept
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  Speaker 2: responsibility for it the other day. Fine. He's still on
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  Speaker 2: every objective measure, eminently qualified, and far, far more so
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  Speaker 2: than Amy Acton could ever hope to be on her
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  Speaker 2: best day. 515-55-KRC talk station. You may feel differently. Feel free.
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  Speaker 2: Let me know.
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  Speaker 6: 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 2: 800-823-TALK or pound 550 on AT & T phones. Be
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  Speaker 2: right back. This is 55KRC. And 18 on a Friday evening.
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  Speaker 2: A very happy one to you. 55KRC. iheart. com. Encourage you to
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  Speaker 2: stop by when you can't listen live. Always great guests
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  Speaker 2: on the 55KRC morning show. Joe Gennaro Napolitano with a
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  Speaker 2: law school lesson yesterday and the deteriorating condition of the
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  Speaker 2: United States Constitution beginning from its founding all the way
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  Speaker 2: through today. Just. Apparently, in terms of how presidential administrations
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  Speaker 2: and others have viewed it over the years, pretty much
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything. Yet your Fourth Amendment right to be
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  Speaker 2: free of unreasonable search and seizures, you can throw that
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  Speaker 2: out the door. And we can go on and on
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  Speaker 2: and on. This point of Judge Isapolitano's point, maybe we
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  Speaker 2: need to do it all over again. He is a
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: critic of the administrative state, and I am too. You
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  Speaker 2: can't stop it. Uh, Trevor, Ohio treasurer, Robert Sprague running
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  Speaker 2: for secretary of state podcast to him. And, uh, the
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  Speaker 2: conversation I had with him yesterday, get out and vote
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  Speaker 2: says Donovan, the old Americans for prosperity, lots of ways
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  Speaker 2: you can do that. They're there to help you do it.
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  Speaker 2: And the big picture with Jack Atherton are Democrats.
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  Speaker 4: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, sadly, the I'm thinking out there, believe that may
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  Speaker 2: be the case. Uh, how about your energy bill? Uh, No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to launch into a commercial for USA Insulation,
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  Speaker 2: although I'll do it later and bring up this article.
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  Speaker 2: Duke Energy wants a rate increase.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They filed a proposed rate increase with the Public Utilities
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  Speaker 2: Commission of Ohio. Back in June, they claim it's $ 8
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  Speaker 2: more per 1,000 kilowatts. And residents are a little upset
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  Speaker 2: about it. The Communities United for Action, they had a
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  Speaker 2: meeting yesterday to discuss ways to prevent the increase and
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  Speaker 2: urging the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio to not go
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  Speaker 2: through with it. And public hearings are coming, and they
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  Speaker 2: wanted people to know about that. I'll give you those
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  Speaker 2: dates here. So this organization hosted a meeting yesterday, want
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  Speaker 2: residents to be prepared to testify before the Public Utilities
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  Speaker 2: Commission of Ohio in hopes of keeping the energy rates
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  Speaker 2: down and to prevent this increase from passing. Others are
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  Speaker 2: many residents expressing frustration about the cost of the energy
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  Speaker 2: bill and can't pay it. It's gotten too expensive. This
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  Speaker 2: reminds me of the property tax issue we have.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Increases here and there. Okay, your property tax goes up.
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  Speaker 2: You got your utilities bill going up. Of course, your
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  Speaker 2: water bill's going up. Yeah, well, we'll just make it
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  Speaker 2: every month and people won't get that quarterly bill and
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  Speaker 2: it won't be as bad. No, no, it's as bad
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  Speaker 2: as it was before. A lot worse, in fact, with
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  Speaker 2: the water bill. Cost of everything going up. Your insurance rates,
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  Speaker 2: generally speaking, both home and auto going up. Does anybody
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  Speaker 2: have any money left over after all this? So every
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  Speaker 2: little bit counts. $ 8 a month for 1,000 kilowatts of
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  Speaker 2: energy is more than many people now can take. Duke
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  Speaker 2: Energy spokesperson said in their statement, there is never a
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  Speaker 2: good time to propose a rate increase, and we are
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  Speaker 2: conscious of making smart investments while keeping prices as low
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  Speaker 2: as possible. At the end of the day, our job
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  Speaker 2: is to keep the lights on so our customers can
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  Speaker 2: go about their lives without worrying about whether the power
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  Speaker 2: will be there, which makes me think about, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: how much of your investments and how much mandates or
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  Speaker 2: obligations do you have in terms of power being there
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  Speaker 2: when we need it? went into green protocols and green
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  Speaker 2: projects that cost a hell of a lot more money
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  Speaker 2: and don't deliver on the commodity that we need, which
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  Speaker 2: is electricity, at a lower price. Apparently these approved rate
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  Speaker 2: hikes are going to take place next year. But there
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  Speaker 2: are going to be hearings according to the Public Utilities
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  Speaker 2: Commission of Ohio. You're welcome to attend. Anyone wanting to
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  Speaker 2: give testimony how the rate increase will impact them? Here
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  Speaker 2: are three options scheduled for December. 125 South Broad Street,
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  Speaker 2: Middletown at the Midpoint Library Community Room. Cincinnati downtown, 801
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  Speaker 2: Plum Street at the Cincinnati City Hall Council Chambers, room 300.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, in Hamilton, 345 High Street, Hamilton Municipal Building.
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  Speaker 2: The dates, the first one, December 1st. That's the one
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  Speaker 2: in Middletown, December 10th for the one downtown. And in Hamilton,
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  Speaker 2: December 10th as well. I encourage you to look into
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  Speaker 2: that if you, too, would like to have a word
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  Speaker 2: to say for the Public Utilities Commission. But fear not,
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  Speaker 2: your gas bill may be lower. Now, half of America,
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  Speaker 2: roughly 46% of America, rely on natural gas. Guess what?
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  Speaker 2: Expect 19% lower costs this year. Apparently, abundant drilling, abundant
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  Speaker 2: pipelines result in lower prices. Record U.S. production not brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by the green alarmist, brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: President Donald Trump, And any other presidential administration who agrees
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  Speaker 2: that drilling is a good idea and tapping into our
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  Speaker 2: natural resources is a good idea and sitting on top
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  Speaker 2: of an abundance of energy waiting to be tapped in
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  Speaker 2: and not tapping into it is just plain old stupid.
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  Speaker 2: You can point to all kinds of governments around the
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  Speaker 2: world that fall into the category of stupid. I noticed
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  Speaker 2: that the United Kingdom has approved a drilling project in
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  Speaker 2: the ocean waters, I believe it was north of the
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  Speaker 2: United Kingdom. How about that? The first one forever, they
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  Speaker 2: got millions and millions of barrels of oil. They're struggling
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  Speaker 2: with energy production. Apparently Donald Trump convinced them that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you want to tap into what you got in
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  Speaker 2: your backyard right there? We've been telling you to do
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  Speaker 2: this for years. Oh, okay. And the only reason they
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  Speaker 2: went through with it They padded it by promising a
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  Speaker 2: whole bunch of, yes, green energy projects like solar panels
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: and windmills so they could get the one thing that
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: was going to guarantee them some energy production, oil, drilling, right. Anyway,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: as far as natural gas, Americans using natural gas for
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: home heating expect to pay about 9% less than a
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  Speaker 2: year ago or about $ 640 on average for the combined
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: bills covering November through March. At least that's the estimate
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  Speaker 2: from the Energy Information Administration. I guess we have one
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  Speaker 2: of those, too. Propane falls into the same category. It
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: all comes out of the same place, so your propane
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  Speaker 2: prices should be down as well. At least that's what's
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: reported here, thanks to information from the Wall Street Journal
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  Speaker 2: and Goldman Sachs and others like the EIA who follow this.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if it tempers the electricity bill increase,
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  Speaker 2: but at least there's not an increase in natural gas
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  Speaker 2: prices to go along with it. Some small reprieve. Local stories,
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  Speaker 2: got lots of them coming up. Phone calls are always preferred.
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  Speaker 2: Either way we go, we'll go, and I'll be right
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  Speaker 2: back to do that.
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  Speaker 8: 55KRC.
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  Speaker 2: On a Thursday, happy one, too. Before we get to
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  Speaker 2: local stories, got Dave on the line. You can call, too.
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  Speaker 2: Get behind Dave, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Dave, thanks for calling this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and happy Friday to you.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, good morning. On the Amy Acton podcast, issue. There
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  Speaker 6: is a condition in dysfunctional families, especially where there's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of substance abuse called adult children of alcoholics. The
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  Speaker 6: adults are so irresponsible. They are not responsible adults and
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  Speaker 6: they don't behave like responsible adults. One of the children
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  Speaker 6: has to assume the role of the adult parenting individual.
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  Speaker 6: And they have to imagine it because they're a kid.
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  Speaker 6: They lose out on their childhood. And as they grow
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  Speaker 6: to adults, they are never able to develop, uh, emotionally
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  Speaker 6: because they never got the shot at that and you
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  Speaker 6: get an adult with a lot of issues uh and
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  Speaker 6: it's called adult children of alcoholism is one place where
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  Speaker 6: you see this and i think that's what we're watching
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  Speaker 6: uh much like uh akira kurosawa's great movie russian man
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  Speaker 6: all the people may be telling their own truth but
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  Speaker 6: when you look at all of them every single of
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  Speaker 6: them is full of issues.
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  Speaker 2: Well and i Who can argue with that? I'm no
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  Speaker 2: psychiatrist or psychologist. What you say may absolutely be true.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But you see, this becomes the topic
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  Speaker 2: of conversation. Are we doing a psychological analysis of the
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  Speaker 2: Acton family and what might have happened and what might
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: have led to these allegations and this dysfunction and these
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: broken relationships and all this and the aftermath of maybe
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: being molested as a child and what that might mean?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I'm sticking with paper and I'm sticking with what they're
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: running on, and what their credentials are for office. And
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: you may think that may be a credential, the mental
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: state of any given candidate, including the Republican challenger. Fine.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But in the final analysis, who is most qualified for
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the job? And these discussions, I would argue, really don't
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: have much to do with that. I mean, any disagreement
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: on that point?
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  Speaker 6: The credentials indicate what this may be something behind the credentials,
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: but you're certainly right. The credentials are sufficient.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and in this particular case, the credentials are so
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: wide differing, and the chasm between qualification and unqualified is
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: so obvious that, yeah, that's why I think this is
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: dominating the news. The Democrats needed something to maintain it
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to the extent she's running neck and neck with Ramaswamy.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: They needed something to draw away from the realities of
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: perhaps why she won't debate him. Oh, my God, they're
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: attacking her, and she had this terrible family and childhood
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: growing up and all that.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing with that, but I'm saying this is
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a distraction from the core issue. We're not talking about
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the core issues. Is she even qualified? Mental baggage, emotional challenges,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: bad childhood history or not? I would argue she's not.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But between now and November, this is probably going to
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: dominate the news cycle. No one's going to be pointing
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to Amy Acton, not debating Vivek Ramaswamy, where she is
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: on the policies or issues, etc., etc., etc., 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Christopher Smithman. Woke up to a text about
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: him on this story. Juvenile injured, two in custody, a
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: shooting at an apartment in Clifton. This happened last night,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: 9.30 p.m., 3500 Block of Vine Street. Police found a
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: girl with non-life-threatening injuries when they got there. Gunshot wound,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: girl taken to the hospital for treatment. Police said they
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: quickly located two suspects who are in custody. Still under investigation.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Since any police confirmed the shooting took place inside that dwelling,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: probably would like to hear from you if you have
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: any information relating to it. And then a breaking story
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: from this morning. Thank you, Joe Strecker. Right on top
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: of this one, few details, but 2.30 this morning, just
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: as I was getting out of bed, Taco Bell at
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the intersection near Coleraine Avenue in North Bend was struck
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: by apparent gunfire. Visible damage through the drive-thru window. Not
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: clear if anybody was injured. Not clear why any human
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: being would shoot at a Taco Bell drive-in window. Steve,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: welcome to the morning show, and happy Friday Eve to you, sir.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: Good morning, Brian. You asked a question a few minutes ago.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: Is Amy Acton going to use this event that happened,
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: didn't happen, whatever, let's say it happened, to springboard into
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: a political career? I'm going to say, let me give
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: you two examples.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. What are you accusing me of saying?
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: No, you said, is she going to use this event
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: that may have happened, doesn't qualify for her, for governor?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying whether or not she's going to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: use it. I'm just saying whether or not that event happened,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it is not something that you put on a resume
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: or discuss in terms of a qualifying event. That's just
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: a fact.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: I want to give you two examples of people that
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: used events that had nothing to do with qualifications and
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: made careers out of it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I, you know.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just trying to
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: be the guy who's to keep your eye on the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: real thing, says Brian Thomas. I know people do this
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: all the time. Go ahead.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: Well, okay, we got John McCain, a Republican, had a
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: career because he was a POW, had no qualifications. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: don't think he was a good senator.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Had a career.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: You could not criticize him because of what happened to him,
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: even over policy. That was his shield. Democrat John Lewis,
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: representative from the South, got his head busted in Selma
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: at the race protest. And again, it was the springboard
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: used to get into politics, and it made them a victim,
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: and you couldn't criticize them. They both had long careers.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: I don't think either one of them was any good
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: at what they did, in my opinion. So she'll use this. Absolutely.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: She'll use it as a springboard. She is putting it
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: on her resume. Absolutely.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the mainstream media and her operatives are putting
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it on the resume. She does not say anything will
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: be done for her. Unlike, say, let me throw out
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: there one person who made literally millions of dollars on lies,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Al Sharpton, Tawana Brawley. Remember? Yeah, that's what brought him
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: up to power. But the underlying allegations all turned out
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: to be lies. Career built on a lie. Isn't that amazing? 535-55-KRC,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the talk station. No, that is not me saying. It
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: is 539 coming up at 540-55-KRC, the talk station. Oh, look,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Stack is Stupid, which is the case this time of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the 5 o'clock hour as I endeavor to get awake
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and try to move away from the headier, probably more
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: depressing topics that are going on in the world and
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: just be happy you're not in the Stack is Stupid.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Kind of one of the reasons I do it. Well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: at least I'm not that guy. Anyhow, we go to Virginia.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: 64-year-old Richmond, Virginia man named Terry Ward has been accused
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: of tying his wife to a chair and leaving her
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: restrained in the basement of their home while he watched
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens-Atlanta Falcons game.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: What?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: October 11th, two teams were playing, and Richmond police got
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: a phone call. 11.30 p.m. for reported domestic disturbance. Adult
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: woman identified herself as Ward's wife when they got there.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Officers revealed that the woman stated Ward had previously tied
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: her up in a chair using tape in their home's basement.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: She did have marks and sticky tape residue around both
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: of her arms. She said she'd been tied up for between...
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: That was a sneeze. Apologies. The cough button worked. He
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: said she'd been tied up between 30 and 45 minutes
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: while he watched the game. Officer documented Ward admitting to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: tying his wife up. Quote, when I arrived at the scene...
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: She stated that her husband had tied her to a
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: chair with tape in the basement. Ward, Terry, stated that
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: he did indeed tie his wife to a chair and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: placed her down in the basement. There seemed to be
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: no question of it at that point, right? Ward charged
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: with felony abduction and misdemeanor assault on a family member.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Next court appearance, October 10th, in the Richmond Juvenile and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Domestic Relations Court Division. Thank you, Joe Strecker. Sound advice.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Keep it in mind at all times. Like when your
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: surgery's been canceled. We go to Florida where a man
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: has been accused of smashing his doctor's Tesla windshield with
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: a hammer after his surgery was canceled because he drank
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: water before the procedure. Glenn Leong, 78, facing charges of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: criminal mischief, property damage. Officers say they found the test
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: with two indentations in the windshield. Indentations in quotes. Police
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: had to show up at the OptiMotion Orthopedics Medical Building,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: 3.30 in the afternoon, September 16th. Affidavit says surveillance footage
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: shows a man wearing a surgical mask approaching the car
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: with a hammer. Hit the windshield twice before returning to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: his own truck, driving away. Estimated damage, $ 1, 600. Investigators identified
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: this Ong guy as the man shown in the footage.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Police said the doctor had described Ong as a difficult
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: patient and that he was upset after his surgery was canceled.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: They went to Ong's home. He initially denied being the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: doctor's patient, saying, you got the wrong person, but once
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: he was shown the surveillance images, he eventually admitted to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: damaging the Tesla. His statement, the guy screwed me over twice.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I was already dressed up to do the surgery, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he called it up because I had a sip of water.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Apparently told doctors he believed the doctor needed to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: held accountable for his actions and that he wanted to
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: teach the victim a lesson. Also admitted to removing his
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: license plate before hitting the Tesla so he wouldn't be identified. Yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: but for the 19 gazillion cameras that are around all
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: over the place. Thank you. Is this spilt mayonnaise story
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the one, the FCC compliance one you threw in my
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: stack this morning, Joe?
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Now, who can argue with that?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: You've been on a roll lately. It's a two-page, single-spaced article,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and there's only one element of the story that qualifies
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it for the sack of stupid, so let's get it
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: out of the way, shall we? An Army cadet's instructor,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: accused of sex offenses, says, well, as a chili sauce guy,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: it could not have been him who had the issue
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: with the spilt mayonnaise. We'll get to it here. Ryland Ray, 26,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: this is in Britain. denies several sexual offenses, many involving
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: children that he met through the Cambridge Army Cadet Force. Anyway,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Ipswich Crown Court has heard that he was in a
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: kebab shop during a night out with a man who
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: allegedly had been one of his child victims and had
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: spilled sauce upon him. The man who alleges Ray asked
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: him for indecent photographs when he was a minor, told
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: police the defendant said, quote, I can lick it off
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: because they're mine, can't I? Close quote. Now, see, I'm
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: puzzled by that statement.
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: What the hell?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: So he spills mayonnaise on the guy, and then he says,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I can lick it off because they're mine. I don't know.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Does the mayonnaise sauce identify as they, them pronouns? Anyhow.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I had no idea what was going on. Thank you, Tally.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Asked by his defense barrister whether he recalled spilling mayonnaise,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: he responded, quote, no. I'm a chili sauce guy, so
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know when that could have been. Sometimes lawyers
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: are faced with difficult challenges with their clients.
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  Speaker 2: can do that, too. Flagler County, Florida is where we're
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: going next for the Stack is Stupid.
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: As is tradition.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Flagler Beach substitute teacher arrested for kicking a student with
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: disabilities at a place called Matanzas High School. Last Friday,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: a school resource deputy there notified the school's assistant principal
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: of the incident involving Brian Schwitz, who's 60 years old.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Arrest report says one witness showed him forcefully moving the
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: student into a chair during a behavioral episode, then forcing
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the student to place his hands on the table and said, quote,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the gloves are off, close quote. Witness told deputies she
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: felt Schwitz was a bit too rough with the student.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Second witness report. said Schwitz kicked the student in the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: leg and later noticed a large mark on the student leg.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: When that witness asked Schwitz about it, he allegedly replied, quote,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: he kicked me and I kicked him, so now we're square,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: close quote. He told deputies the student arrived late, refused
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to sit, began kicking toward him, causing him to accidentally
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: kick the student in return. It was an accident. He slipped, Joe.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Later gave conflicting statements about whether he made the worst
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: square remark to the witness. Student's mother later contacted deputies
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to report that skin was missing from her child's leg
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and provided photographs of the injury. Sheriff Rick Staley, he's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: going out on a limb on this statement. It's never
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: okay for a faculty member to strike a student, especially
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: out of anger or frustration.
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway, superintendent responded saying this kind of behavior will not
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: be tolerated on our campuses. He's been charged with child
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: abuse without great bodily harm and booked into the Flagler
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: County Jail, later released on bond.
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: The biggest douche of the universe In all the galaxies
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: There's no bigger douche than you You've reached the top
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: The pinnacle of douchedom Good going, douche Your dreams have.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Come true Let's stay in Florida, shall we?
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: As is tradition.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Philip Sullivan, the subject matter of this stack of stupid story,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: apparently was seeking to rebuild his life after a gambling addiction.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: He didn't. He's accused of stealing more than $ 1 million
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: from his employer to bankroll his gambling addiction before becoming
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: director of his state's gambling addiction helpline in trying to
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: make amends. Sentenced nearly a decade in prison. Florida authorities
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: charged him in March 2024 with stealing $ 1. 4 million from
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Panama City Real Estate Company, which he was the chief
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: financial officer, a place called Royal American. Internal audit revealed
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: numerous company credit card transactions, unauthorized, put him under scrutiny,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: ultimately pleaded no contest to half a dozen felony charges
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: of grand theft. Recently, October 16th, Florida judge adjudicated him
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: guilty and sentenced him to nine years, eight and a
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: half months in prison. Character witnesses on his behalf claimed
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: in court that he had developed a gambling addiction after
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: being prescribed the pharmaceutical stimulant Adderall around the time of
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the thefts. Oh, Adderall did it. That's it. March 2025,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: a year after his employment with Royal American ended, he
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: became the director of 888-ADMIT-IT, the Florida Council on Compulsive
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Gambling hotline. 43-year-old Sullivan appeared on the Addiction Recovery Show
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: podcast a little more than a week before his sentencing
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: described his role on that helpline, which he apparently undertook
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to help rebuild his life after the criminal charges. So
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the helpline positioned him to speak with more than 460
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: people who were struggling with a gambling addiction. He said,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: it's hard not to feel a certain way about gambling
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: when it's not only your account, but you talk to
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: other people and you see the pain it is causing
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: them too. He says, I'm incredibly thankful for the opportunity.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: It's given me a greater purpose than I felt like
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I've ever had in my life. Well, you can contemplate
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: that while you're stewing in prison for the next nine years.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I personally am aware of several people who literally lost
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: everything they had in their life because of gambling addiction.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to say it should be outlawed, but
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you know, There's a real substantial risk. Station. That's 666-55-KRC,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the talk station. Brian Thomas here. Host of the 55KRC
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Morning Show. That is my designation. Designation for the executive
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: producer is executive producer. That's Joe Strecker. Glad he's here.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: And glad you're out there listening. I truly appreciate it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I enjoy phone calls if you'd like to chime in.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Coming up on the 55KRC Morning Show, Congressman Warren Davidson
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: in one hour. Got some good issues to talk about
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: with Congressman Davidson. Of course, we'll get maybe a comment
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: or two about the upcoming election. But the Railroad Responsibility Act,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: he introduced that in 2024. We had an incident the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: other day out in Laughlin. Fire crews couldn't get to
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: where they were trying to go because there was a
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: train blocking the rail crossings. And apparently the Ohio Supreme
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Court previously ruled that federal law preempted our restrictions here
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in Ohio, which set limits on railroad crossing blockages. So
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about that. I believe that truly is a
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: state issue, although I'm sure the Commerce Clause and interstate
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: commerce comes into it. $ 92 million in funding. He'll talk
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: about that. The Rural Health Transformation Program, which is designed
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: to help rural hospitals with maternal and behavioral health services,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: looks like Ohio's getting $ 92 million from that. Followed by
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Signal 99. Should be a really wonderful half hour of
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Signal 99 on the phone. Of course, if you're not
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: familiar with it, get over to Facebook and type in
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Signal 99. A collective of folks in the know about
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: what I love to call shenanigans going on, generally speaking,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: in and around downtown Cincinnati. Like the Hinton trial, for example.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Jury deliberated, couldn't come up with a verdict. They're going
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: to continue deliberating today. They have a choice between outright murder,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: which carries with it the death penalty, and of course,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: The whoops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit him defense,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: reckless homicide, which carries a much lower penalty. And Joe
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Strecker out loud asks the question, this is an interesting one,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: are the Cincinnati Police Department, are they ready? Do they
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: have a contingency plan in place? If he is found
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: guilty of murder, which might lead to people rioting in
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the street for reasons completely unknown. Or you can draw
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: your own conclusion as to why people might go jump
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: around and riot in the streets. They're doing it everywhere
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: these days. Why not? Look, we are our position law,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: so let's burn things down. That makes sense. Anyway, she
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: has a word or two about Iris Rowley as well,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: who has been engaged in that. And Iris Rowley also
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: made it to the news elsewhere. I thought this was
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: rather interesting. The CincinnatiExchange.com is where Joe found this one.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't find it myself, so props to Joe Strecker.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: This is how he acts as the awesome executive producer
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: he is. We have new figures out. The Cincinnati Collaborative Foundation,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: which is President Iris Rowley's thing. She's the president of that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Iris Rowley is the president of the Cincinnati Collaborative Foundation. And,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of course, she is part of running sort of nongovernmental
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: organization experiments out in the world to try to reduce
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: crime interventions, activism, mostly around the central business district. But
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: they released a report showing declines in robberies, aggravated assaults,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and shootings in the central business district. But according to critics,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and this is a legitimate point, this is something Todd
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Zinser has made a whole bunch of times on this,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: You give money to an NGO, you tell them or
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you have them assigned to a particular task like reducing
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: juvenile violence in the central business district, and they claim
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: to go out and do things, but what they do
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't have any connection to the level of crime. If
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: crime goes down, and this is the point of the article,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: can you draw a line between the reduced numbers and
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: whatever activity in the central business district that this entity did?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Sensei Collaborative Foundation. some are public safety activities. So if
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you have a decrease in crime, can you say that's
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: because Iris Rowley and the CCF were out there doing
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: stuff and things and engaging the community with whatever efforts
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: of engagement? They don't know. There's no reporting on that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You can't connect the two. Figures indicate few reported incidents
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: in each category, specifically robbers, aggravated assaults, and shooting incidents,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: but the declines don't establish the foundation outreach efforts caused
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the improvements. How about police deployment? The just broader crime trends,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: generally speaking. And what of all of the other areas
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: outside of the Central Business District? What are their crime rates?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Are those going down as well? Got a separate article
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: about the Cincinnati Police Department 12 Stars report. 241 reported
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: rape offenses this year through October 10th, anyway, compared with.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: 154 during the corresponding period last year, a 56.5% increase. Oh,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: we have a 50.5% increase in strangulations as well. Well,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: that's right. They're not dead, Joe. So when Bobby gives
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: us his over and under, he's on the hold. Bobby,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: hold on. I know what's coming. So when Bobby gives
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: us his over and under on crime in the greater
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati area, in the city of Cincinnati, usually involving violent crime,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: if it's not a murder, University Hospital has saved so
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: many lives that otherwise would have been lost in prior times.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Can you really say things have gotten better? It's also
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: reported former Cincinnati Councilman Steve Gooden, who's been on this
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: program many times as our legal expert, as well as
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the aforementioned Todd Zinser, our Inspector General, citizen watchdog he is,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: asked about whether they had sufficient data in the city
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: to evaluate the effectiveness of these programs. Concerns centering over
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the difference between documenting program activities and demonstrating measurable public
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: safety concerns. For example, counting the number of young people
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: contacted by these organizations. The number of community events can
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: show how much work the initiative performs, but those alone
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: figures can't establish whether a program prevents violence or reduces
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: crime or otherwise stop violence in its track. How about, A,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: tracking the number of young people served by these various programs?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Count the number of referrals to community resources. Count the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: number of de-escalation interventions that were done. Changes in the
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: crime areas where the initiatives operate. Look, we initiated the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: changes here and the crime went down in this particular area.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: None of that's reported. The money goes out. They claim
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: work has been done. They cite general statistics about crime
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: reduction and then claim credit for it. That you can't establish. So, anyhow,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: that's a long-winded. circuitous route from announcing that Signal 99
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: is going to be on the program to where I
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: am sitting down right now. Judge McDowell in studio at
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: 805 and iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. All right, Bobby,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: ready for the over and under for the week. Welcome
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: back to the morning show. Happy Friday, sir.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Good morning, my friend. A simple thank you can express
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: our true feelings of appreciation, brother. I hope that torture
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: freedom every day. Keep it high and bright. It's dark
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Bobby. I hope you're not alone in your
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: feelings in that regard.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: No, I'm not.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Well, we got a, we got a handicapped at about
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: three and a half and we're going to be very
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: gracious too. And, uh, You know, one of our main
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: concerns is their talking points about the deaths in Cincinnati,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: how many murders or, you know, less. They don't talk
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: about violent crime. They don't talk about what happened yesterday.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: You know, we got that Clifton and 930 last night.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: You got people in our Taco Bell shooting through windows.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: You know, they need to report crime. You know, we
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: got the best hospital systems known. The man around here
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: saving people.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the other thing, and I think it
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: will be valuable or interesting exercise for at least the
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: public to get the shot spotter data. I mean, how
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: many times does the shot spotter system go off? How
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: many gunfire incidents are detected on that? Now, that doesn't
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: mean necessarily anybody got hit by it, but somebody drove
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: by a Taco Bell at 2.30 this morning up in
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Mount Airy and shot it. I presume the shot spotter
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: technology would have picked up the gunshot, but see, no
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: one was harmed or injured in that to the extent
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: of the reporting this morning. That may change, but that's
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: all the information I have. So gunfire, that's a suggestion
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: that someone could get hurt and that people are running
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: around indiscriminately firing guns all over the place, which is
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: never a good thing. So much so often that people
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: become numb to it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: They say they've collected all the shell casings and all
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: these incidents, and I look at it like the pyramid. Incidents, occurrences.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: then you'll have this and everything at the very top.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: They don't talk about all these shell casings they've picked up.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: They can check the ballistics off the firing pin mechanisms
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: in the back on it. They can go ahead and
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: track these all down. They can see it's the same
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: guns that have been used in multiple attacks. But I
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: don't hear anything about it. They have to have a
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: separate room just to keep the damn cartridges. They've got
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: thousands upon thousands of them. Are they using them? I mean,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: are they checking anything? I mean, are they checking... I mean,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: what are they doing? Who's in charge? Do they got
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: a room just to keep shell casings in? You know,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: all they want to talk about, oh, murder's down, murder's down. Well,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: that's the only thing may be down. What else is down?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Positivity? Optimism?
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: They don't know either, or they don't want to say.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, Bobby. I have no answer to that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I have no idea how many shell cases they picked up,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: whether they collate them or whether they put them through
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: an analysis to find out the individual unique marking on
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the shell cases. But then again, just because, let's say
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: a guy is caught with a gun and that shell
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: casing matches the shell cases they found elsewhere, his simple
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: possession of that gun does not mean he's responsible for
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the other violent crimes or other use of the firearm
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: because They are like lending libraries, these firearms. There are
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: community guns out there that the various criminal elements share.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Heard about that many times and even interviewed folks here
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: in the morning show about that reality. It's frightening. It's scary.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: But you know what? In the final analysis, Bobby, I
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: think we can all conclude that we're just not quite
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: getting enough information about the reality, the truth on the
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: ground in greater Cincinnati. And then here's another question to
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: pile on that along the same lines. Is Iris Raleigh
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: doing any good in the community? Has her work really
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: impacted crime? Or are we paying her $ 600, 000 plus under
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: a contract to do that for no reason whatsoever? Some
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: suggest that she is very politically connected, which is why
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: she's employed by the city. How am I to know?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: 616-55-KRC-D Talk Station. Eddie, I'll get you a call in
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a second. It is 621-55-KRC-D Talk Station. And I'm looking
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: forward to what Congressman Warren Davidson coming up. Very much so.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Signal 99, just a little bit more than an hour
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: for a 730 edition of that. We'll talk about the
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Hinton trial. Still in deliberations they are. And a little
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: tease about a, is it a full hour on Monday
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: about Judge Bloom? So much information on juvenile court Judge Bloom,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Judge Bloom, that we need an entire hour of Signal
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: 99 here in the morning show.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: And, of course, as we always like to point out here,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: she brings the receipts with her, including this morning's announcement.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Hang on, Eddie, I'll just get your call in a second.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: That the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals has denied the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: appeal involving Cheryl Long and her personal liability in connection
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: with former Fire Chief Washington, who was wrongfully terminated, is
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: now going to get a big fat check, either a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: settlement check or a jury will award him presumably millions
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: of dollars. And underlying issue in that is Cheryl Long,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: city manager's personal liability. Normally you're immune from liability when
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you're acting as a public official, but no, the court
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: said no, she's not. Which means the city taxpayers aren't
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: going to be covering whatever portion of the liability belongs
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: in Cheryl Long's lap. And how did that Sixth Circuit
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: come down? It was an in-bank hearing. That means all
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals judges were presiding
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: over it, looking at it, and reviewing the underlying three-judge decision.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: All 19 of them. Was this a lopsided upholding? No,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: it was 19-0. First person to have the information, Signal 99,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: reported this morning. Finally, by Fox 19. Eddie, thank you
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: for holding. Welcome to the program, sir, and happy Friday Eve.
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: Same to you, Brian. Real quick about this, the non-reporting
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: of crime.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: I want to ask Ken Kober to.
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: Bring us up to speed on the latest crimes that
• 46:16
  Speaker 10: are occurring. And he has access to it. I know
• 46:21
  Speaker 10: the officers on the street communicate with him directly. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: one example of a crime that didn't get any local
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: coverage was a shots fired incident here in Hyde Park,
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: right by the Cincinnati Country Club, when my neighbor went
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: out there to see some young fellas going through his car.
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: and they fired several shots at him to get him
• 46:46
  Speaker 10: back in his house. And the police responded and did
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: what they do, but there was nothing on the news
• 46:54
  Speaker 10: about this. The other day, there was a gun found
• 46:59
  Speaker 10: in the grass at Triangle Park right across the street
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: from Withrow where there are daily dust-ups, and that wasn't
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: on the news. If they put something out about this,
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: Maybe when they find it or ask, hey, do you
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: see anybody around here? They might find out who put
• 47:19
  Speaker 10: the gun there.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Certainly a possibility. I, too, wish there was more local reporting.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And I agree with you all day long. But when
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: you look at local reporting, I get the impression, at
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: least this is my impression, that we're running out of
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: people employed by local news outlets. Nobody's relying upon or
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: otherwise supporting local news outlets to their financial peril. maybe
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: because of their left-wing bent. We all know that the
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati Inquirer has kind of gone full-on leftist to the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: chagrin of many people, including Peter Bronson, who joined the program,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: the former editor of the Cincinnati Inquirer. Things have changed
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: since his days, and now it seems to be just
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: a mere recipe.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: What?
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: Well, perhaps, yeah.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Lone voice in the wilderness, but I'm just talking about
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: your comment about local reporting. You talk about two incidents
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: which you would think might be regularly reported in the news.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: My God, gunfire and a guy who was shot at
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: by people trying to break into his car in his
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: front yard? That seems newsworthy. So, we don't hear about it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to address the underlying situation. Why don't
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: we hear about it? Is this some concerted effort not
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: to draw people's attention to crime? Or are there just
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: not enough reporters to go around and not enough interest
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: in what's going on here locally for anybody to bother
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: to read about it? Don't know. Just asking out loud.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. My friend. Thank you for calling Eddie at
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: six 25 right now. 55 care CD talk station. Hey,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: how does this sound? Holidays of show six 31, 55
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: care CD talk station, local stories. I do have that
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: also recommendation and reminder 55 care c.ir.com. You try our
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: media app and check out the podcast when you can't
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: listen live. Important to do that, I think. And, uh,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Christopher Smithman on a Monday. I caught Judge Apolitano yesterday.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I always enjoy their constitutional discussions with the judge, but
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of information over at 55KRC. iheart. com, and let
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: us go to local stories. Yeah, this is what I
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: woke up to this morning. A text from Christopher Smithman.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Christopher. Juvenile injured to in custody. Another shooting
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: at an apartment in Clifton.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: 930.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Last evening, 3500 Block of Vine Street. Police showed up
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: to reports of a juvenile who had been shot. Police
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: found a girl with a non-life-threatening gunshot wound. Taken to
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the hospital for treatment. Thankfully, non-life-threatening. Police say they quickly
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: located two suspects who are in custody. Matter is still
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: under investigation. and we'll get the details on that when
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: they finally emerge. Something we talked about with Signal 99
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: in the coming hour, no verdict after the first day
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: of deliberations in the Rodney Hinton Jr. trial. After six hours,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: they were failed to reach a verdict. Of course, they
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: have options thanks to the, well, Signal 99 suggests perhaps
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the lax prosecution of this criminal, the guy who killed Henderson.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Is it murder or is it involuntary manslaughter, which are
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: radically different in terms of the amount of time you
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: can serve if found guilty? I'll let Signal 99 elaborate
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: on that one. Erlanger, Kentucky. Tensions boiling over as described
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: as councilman accusing the mayor of silencing her And a
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: city employee claims illegal activity by the mayor. This is
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: over a public records request. The problem has been building
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: for months, among other Erlanger City Council folks. According to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Councilwoman Jennifer Jasper Lucas, I recently found out that the
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: mayor had our city IT department automatically forwarding any emails
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: that I sent to any city staff to her.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Councilwoman Jasper Lucas said it began in May when Erlanger
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Mayor Jessica Fett sent a 67-page memo to the council
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: forbidding her from speaking or communicating with any city staff.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Jasper Lucas said she claimed that it was due to
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: excessive emails that I had sent, repetitive emails about things
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: and repeated requests for additional information. And I did send
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: repeated requests for information because I wasn't getting any responses.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Fair follow-up, right? She provided posts to Fox 19 to
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: report it on this, thanks to them. that there were
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: non-adversarial questions based upon matters regarding city infrastructure, fiscal responsibility,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: community service, some emails, and questions on behalf of residents.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: She said, unfortunately, because city council wasn't always giving information
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: about things, the only way we were able to find
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: out about information was through an open records request. City
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: of Sarlanger IT specialist Jim White, been in charge of
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: pulling open records requests for six years. I had this
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: to say. My supervisor gave me pages that had information
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: in it and asked me to remove all of the
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: page numbers from that particular thread. I did. I gave
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: them back, and later I was able to speak with
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Jasper Lucas, who told me those pages never made
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: it into her hands for the request. So they just
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: didn't remove the pages numbers. They removed 27 pages of
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: the request. Nothing to see here. More shenanigans. See, it's
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: not just on Cincinnati City Council, Joe. Genetic. Plenty coming up.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Got lots to talk about between now and the top
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: of the hour news, after which we'll hear from Congressman
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Warren Davidson and the one hour from now, a little less.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: 639 at 55 KRC, the talk station. Very happy Friday
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Eve to you. You can feel free to call. I'd
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: love to hear from you. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, or pound 550
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: on AT & T phones. All the rage these days
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: to talk about polling information.
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: Rather....
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Disturbed by this revelation about this Wedgwood Polls entity. Wedgwood Polls,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: they had a post earlier this week saying that they
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: fabricated data throughout the entire 2026 election cycle, claiming it
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: was a social experiment. That's the second time we've had
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: information about this. So the background is on this. They
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: had eight the 18 polls this year, and the poll
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: information they cited, they're now saying was just an outright lie,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: fabricated polling information. Data cited, however, when they put this online,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: they didn't say, you know, these are lies, you know,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the margin of error is made up, we pulled these
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: figures out of our sphincter, although all of them benefited
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: the Democrats. This going back to the question, if you
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: see a poll that says, you know, Democrats are far ahead,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: are you going to not vote? And I think this
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: may support the idea. And there's probably some psychological research
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: out there saying, well, if people are told that they're
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: in the margins and it's by a pretty substantial amount,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: they're not going to bother to go vote. Others like
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: me would be compelled to go vote, just wanting to
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: defy the odds or at least try to buck the trend.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: And no, I'm not going to let this happen. I'm
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: not going to, just because the majority of people say
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: they're going to vote for some Democrat Socialist of America candidate,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: that's not going to keep me from going out and
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: trying to stop that from happening. But I may be
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: in the minority on that because of what happened here.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: The polling that they released was cited by a bunch
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: of left-wing organizations, 50 Plus One, Decision Desk, HQ, and
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: of all places, the New York Times. They didn't look
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: into it. They saw it. They saw what the poll showed,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: and they just went ahead and cited them. Look, Wedgwood
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Polls has determined that this person's ahead by 10 points
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And in the statement that was released this week,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: after everybody, I guess, found out it was all fake,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Wedgwood conducted an experimental project to demonstrate the vulnerabilities, lack
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: of oversight, and overall low barrier to entry into the
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: modern political polling industry. We wanted to test a simple hypothesis.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: How easy is it for an entirely fabricated polling firm
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: to gain traction, be taken seriously, and expose how little
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: scrutiny exists in media and public commentary? The answer, short answer,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: far too easy. Well, I'm not disagreeing with what they're saying.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I'll admit their nefarious purpose to this. And sure, you
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: might want to engage in this sort of psychological exercise
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: to find out how easy it is to dupe people.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: This is when I move away from this one lie,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: this fabrication that people embraced and repeated over and over
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: again in some respected circles, at least. The New York
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Times used to have some measure of respect. Not anymore
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: among my listening audience, but you know what I'm saying.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: But what of every other lie that we're told? I
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: bring this up in the context of memes. I've got
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: friends that send me memes, and you're like, wow, did
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: they really do that? And you look it up, and
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: you find out it's a total fabrication. But you've got
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: to do the look-up part. Hey, New York Times, did
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: you look into who Wes Wedgwood Poles is? Did you
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: call them up and ask them how they captured the data?
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Or did you just republish it? The answer is the latter.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: And so we're left to guess, hmm, does this have
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: any consequences? And in this particular case, Mallory McMorrow. dropped
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: out of the race. The Michigan, I believe it was,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: among the races, Wedgwood's fake data had material impact on
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: was Michigan Democrat Senate primary. Mallory McMorrow dropped out of
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: the race after this Wedgwood reported that she had downed
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: to nine singular points in a three-way race with Abdul
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: El-Sayed and Haley Stevens. And she had something to say
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: about this revelation. As one of the candidates featured in
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: these polls, the infamous one in late June that showed
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: me plummeting to single digit, which is at odds with
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: our internals. Here's the impact of this experiment. Donations dried up.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: And this is the point here. Donations dried up. Volunteers
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: were devastated and pleading for guidance on what to do.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Reporters hounded me with calls to drop out. Sure, a
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: point was proven. Polling's broken. But tens of thousands of
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: people poured in their hearts, time, and energy, hard-earned money
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: into something they believed in for a year and a half,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: and it was treated like a game. Our volunteers gave
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: their all, and then some felt like, well, I had
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: let so many of them down. And according to the
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Breitbart reporting, any states affected by Wedgwood, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Nebraska, Texas,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: and Ohio. So in this case, you have a candidate
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: dropping out of a race based on a fake poll.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Of course, some people are going to believe it. And
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: therein lies the fundamental challenge here, because it isn't just
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: this poll. It's literally anything. Campaign lies are all the
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: rage these days. The one continued lie, Vivek Ramaswamy pulled
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a pharmaceutical that worked from the market after a pump
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: and dump scheme. It was all nonsense. You look at
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: the facts behind that. I mean, it was a stage
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: three trial. The company itself was trying to create a
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: drug to benefit mankind. How much money must be spent
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: to get the damn thing at least up to a
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: stage three trial where they determined that it wasn't working?
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: So they pulled it. This is what you do.
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: Money?
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Wasted, perhaps. Maybe it'll serve the benefit of mankind through
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: additional research and follow-up, but You know what? Nobody died
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: as a consequence of what that pharmaceutical company did. In fact,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: they were trying to benefit mankind in their efforts. Ramaswamy's
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: stock was gone long before any of this happened, the
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: way I understand it, but you see the lie continues.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: People are too easily duped, or people just believe what
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: they're reading and take it at face value. This illustrates
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: that more than anything else I've read in a long,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: long time. Jaded, cynical, entering into every moment in time
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: these days in a state of disbelief. Don't believe it
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: until you can prove it's true, which seems to be
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: contrary to the, well, traditional norm. Well, it came from
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: that particular source. It must be true.
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: No.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: New York Times didn't bother fact-checking either. 645, 55 KRC
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Talk Station. Talk Station. Now, here's a great illustration of
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: reality running headlong into theory. The theory... that Marxism actually worked,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: that communism worked, that from each accordion of his ability
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to each accordion of his need actually is a concept
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that could be, well, entered into among the population at
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: large without under the fear of being shot or otherwise
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: sent off to a gulag someplace. And this is the
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: answer to the question why you end up getting sent
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: off to a gulag or forced to work under a
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: communist regime at the, well, under the barrel of a gun.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Modern Times Café. Minneapolis restaurant that attempted, operative word there,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: to eliminate prices. Guess what? It's closing. Dylan Alverson, who
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: had a great idea that, listen, we'll just make things
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: free and let people voluntarily choose what they pay for
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: any given meal. That's the way it should work. I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: got a business model. Let's give it a shot. Said
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: the other day, I've exhausted every option without compromising the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: core fundamentals that make modern times what it is. He's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: closing the restaurant. saying the only way for a place
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: like Modern Times to exist in the future is to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: actively challenge the reasons why it can no longer exist.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: And that answer to that question, mister, is human nature.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: So earlier this year in January, he announced that his business,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Postmodern Times, would operate as, in his words, a free
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: and donation-based restaurant. In other words, where everyone would be
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: welcome except ICE. He did carve out ICE. I mean,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: he started this as a protest activity over ICE actions.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: And what he had to say at the time, we
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: absolutely cannot go on as we have. I am sick
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: of generating money for the soldiers in our streets and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: for a government that won't protect us, a government who
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: is actively influencing daily harm on its citizens. Effective tomorrow,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: we're done making money for the fascists that occupy this city.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: He's railing against where his tax dollars are being spent.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I can relate to that. It sounds to me like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Atlas is shrugging. I'm not going to participate in this
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: corrupt system anymore. I'm taking my ball and I'm going
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a different path. I'm going to make stuff free. And
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: if I don't generate a profit margin, then I guess
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: I won't have to pay taxes on it. They operated
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: without prices for about six months, briefly closing in July
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: and then returning and using prices once the store reopened
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: in August, but announcing that they would We'll continue serving
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: 25 free meals a day. In other words, the business
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: model was collapsing seven months or six months into the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: whole project. By October, he was speaking with the New
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: York Times. He said he was operating under a zero
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: profit margin, hoping that his place could be used as
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: a model for other restaurants. If I can create a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: fundraising mechanism that can raise money to provide hospitality, we
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: can take that program and add restaurants to it. Yeah,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: it didn't take off, though, did it? He acknowledged we
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: had a problem. His staff. It was a little heavy
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: on his staff because it led to customers waiting up
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: to two hours for a meal, half of which would
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: be given free. In other words, people looking for a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: freebie were lined up around the corner, which was one
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: of the problems he was warned about ahead of time.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Neighbors had concerns that homeless and drug-addicted people would be
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: taking advantage of free food. Gee, that'll never happen. And
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I suppose because of the collapse of his business model,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Those altruistic people stepping up to make some form of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: payment for whatever they got at the restaurant couldn't cover
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: the nut of the, I guess, hordes of people standing
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: around waiting for a freebie. Eminent collapse. Well, that's why
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Marxism doesn't work. Free isn't free. And the folks that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: line up around the corner, whether they could or not,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: obviously are there for a free meal. They're not going
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: to participate. Would those folks be willing to offer up
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: whatever ability they have to participate in this sort of experiment?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Did they step up and get free food in return
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: for working at the Postmodern Times restaurant? That's an ability
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: they have. Probably not. Guess not. He still had to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: pay his employees. He still had electricity. He still had
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: food to buy.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: So this is where the gun shows up. If you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: do this on a societal level, on a country level,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the same thing happens. People get really lazy. This is
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: why communism and socialism always fails, because people who aren't
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: going to get a benefit for their additional effort, intellect, labor,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: are not going to bother providing it, or at least
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: on a level that is up to their ability. You
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: don't pay me for my value, I'm not going to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: bother working that hard. Well, here's a gun. I'm going
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: to force you to work. Yeah, you're going to get
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: really a good amount of labor from me. That's... How
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: many times are they going to try and fail at
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: it before we finally all wake up to the reality
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: that socialism and communism just simply does not work? 655-55-KHC-TALK-STATION.
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davidson after the top of the hour news.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I hope you can stick around.
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  Speaker 8: Decision 2021.
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  Speaker 2: 7-0-5. 55 KRCG Talk Station. Brian Thomas, wishing everybody a
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: very happy, as I say, Friday Eve. Call Thursday if
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: you want. I just love Fridays so much. I just
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: like to get the feeling in my head that it's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Friday already. But it's not. But it is time for
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: the return of Congressman Warren Davidson. Welcome back, sir. It
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: is always a pleasure to have you on the 55
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: KRCG Morning Show.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: I always look forward to it, Brian. Thank you.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Glad you do. And remind my friends, it's Davidson4Congress. com. Bye. Honestly,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, of all the races out in the world
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: that we've got to be concerned about, I'm not as
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: concerned about yours, but that's not to suggest that anyone
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: should just take it as an automatic win. Congressman Davidson,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: wildly popular in your district, but with the changes in districts,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I know some people lament the fact that you're no
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: longer their representative, but it's really, truly still important to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: get out and vote, including for Congressman Davidson. How's the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: campaign going, Congressman?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the way you're thinking and talking, Brian.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: You know, the eight districts moved. I mean, the boundaries
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: keep shifting. And probably the biggest change is, you know, historically,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: the anchor was Butler County in a big county.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: We had all of it.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: Now we have part of Butler County and we have
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: part of Hamilton County. And there are more people in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: Hamilton County in the 8th District now under the new
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: map than in Butler County. So that's a big shift.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: And obviously, the demographics are a little different there. And
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: even in the current map, we're on the west side,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: everything that isn't the city or Dehide Township is part
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: of the 8th District. But in the new map, that
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: shifts pretty far east. So we lose a lot of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: the Harrison and all that, which is pretty red. And
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: we move over into places that aren't quite as the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: kind of margin Republicans love. And that's part of why
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: Hamilton's shifting more blue. We're losing some critical races. So
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: hopefully people will get out there and check out Hamilton
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: County judges and Make sure we keep justice. I mean,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: that's like the basis of civilization, right? We're losing ground there.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for mentioning the judges. It was
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: on my short list to say out loud, so you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: covered that. GOPjudges.com, please vote pink ticket, even if you're
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: a Democrat, if you're interested in making sure that crime
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: is down in Hamilton County. Generally, we've got far too
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: woke judges on the bench, and they are not dealing
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: with juveniles, most notably Judge Blum, and the juvenile court
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: needs to be removed in favor of Lucan. That's my
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: take on it anyway, but most people aren't paying attention
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: to that, so just a reminder. Real quick, Congressman Davidson,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: before we get the Railroad Responsibility Act, given that incident
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: that happened in Laughlin the other day, which you can
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: tell my listeners about, the idea that Trump is going
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: to pay people to, well, fraud, waste, and abuse, the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Whistleboro program, $ 25 million apparently he's going to give people
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: $ 30, 000 if they're aware of taxpayer dollars being stolen from
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: the taxpayers put to nefarious purposes. I don't find a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: problem with it. I guess some people, you know, the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: whole ratting out your fellow citizen might come to mind like, oh, great,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: we're going to turn citizens against citizens. But isn't it
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: the moral right ethical thing to do that when you
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: know there's crime being committed against the American taxpayer, that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: people are ripping people off for their own personal benefit?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I would think you have an ethical obligation to bring
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it to the authority's attention anyway. But we pay people
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: to do things all the time. We pay children not
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to commit crime in certain areas. We pay kids to
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: go to school. So we're willing to reward people for
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: doing something they should anyway. This seems to be rewarding
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: people for doing something they should anyway. Do you have
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: any fault with my analysis on that? And what is
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: your position on this whistleblower program, Congressman?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's a voluntary program. The whistleblower program
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: already exists where people say, hey, something isn't right here.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: But you're not necessarily compensated. There are some programs where
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: people are compensated at even higher rates, but it doesn't
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: apply across the board. So President Trump said, hey, we
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: want it to be everything, fraud, waste, and abuse, and
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: we'll give you a percentage of what we recover up
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: to $ 30, 000. So there are some where that'll be a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: fraction of the amount of fraud that's uncovered. I think
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: Nick Shirley's there. Look at all the stuff that he
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: highlighted by going to Minnesota. And you look at... You
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: look at all of the alleged journalists out there in
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: the controlled media. How's this young guy, Nick Shirley, upstage
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: the whole industry just by looking at the information Doge
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: made public?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is amazing, isn't it? We had an
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: earlier conversation about the lack. of media reporting and all
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: the violence that goes on around downtown Cincinnati every single day. So, yes.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: All right. Moving over, Laughlin fire crews were responding to
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: a house fire recently. It was over the weekend, I guess,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: and they couldn't make it to the house. It took
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: them a lot longer than they would hope because there
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: was a train blocking the railroad crossing. I know you
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: had the Railroad Responsibility Act you introduced back in 2024,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: and the Ohio Supreme Court ultimately ruled that federal law
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: preempted Ohio's restrictions, so we're looking for a change of law.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: What are we after here, Congressman Davidson?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Ohio and I think 18 states total
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: have passed laws trying to regulate stoppages and blockages and
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: things like that to prevent exactly what happened tragically there
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: in Laughlin. You know, hey, it's not that trains... can't
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: block any road, but they have certain critical roads you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: either need to keep driving on through or create a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: break in the train so that people can get past.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: And they're blocked because federal law basically preempts it and says, no,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: the railroads, they basically view there's one way to run
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: a railroad, and that's however the railroads want to do it.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: They were there before the roads, so let the railroads
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: do whatever they want. there is no real pressure to
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: do anything collaboratively with communities because the federal law gives
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: all the power to railroads. So even when they come
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: out and talk to communities, sometimes they're not even real
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: polite about it. They could do this without a law,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: but the law is necessary. The railroads aren't going to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: change course without it. And if we get it at
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: the federal level, then Ohio's law would take effect. I mean,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: Ohio wants to have efficient railroads too, but they also
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: want to deal with public safety. And that's what my
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: bill would do. We haven't been able to get traction
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: because the chairman of the committee completely disagrees. He's like, no,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: these railroads need to run this way. And my point
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: has been, you have hours limitations on truck driving, too.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: So if you hit maximum hours of service, you don't
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: just park the truck on the middle of the interstate.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: You have to find a rest area. You have to
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: you know, pull it off the road. And, uh, you know,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: I think you need to do the equivalent for some
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: of our core intersections. And I mean, we deal with
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: it from the most urban, uh, portions of the district
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: to the most rural, I mean, up in dark and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: Preble County, they're dealing with the same challenges.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess why would federal law preempt state laws
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: on this? Is this a whole, uh, commerce clause argument
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: that the federal government has to regulate commerce and industry
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: among the various states? Or is it, I would argue
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: maybe one of the, uh, one of the, One of
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: the Tenth Amendment things, an issue reserved to the states.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: States are better positioned to regulate the railroad crossings than
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: some federal entity out there in the world that's putting
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: a one-size-fits-all Band-Aid on it.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that was the logic with it. And
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: it goes back, you know, the railroad was massively a
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: federal project to get a transcontinental railroad. So there's a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: lot of collaboration, kind of like the interstate highway system.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: And so you have federal laws that that apply to
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: it and you want one way to run a railroad
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: all over the country has been the argument. And so
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: far that's held as I try to present this and say, yeah,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: we want a railroad that works fine too. But in Ohio,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: we want to be able to say, hey, you've got
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: to work with your communities more collaboratively. And they're just
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: not doing that. And, you know, it's just tragic when
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: you hear the Lachlan Fire Department say we could have
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: been there in under a minute. They had to go
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: way around. The neighboring fire department, I think Redding, was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: there first. But unfortunately, too late. I mean, it's just
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: amazing how much our difference response time makes for a fire.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, horrific situation. This senior citizen was found burned
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: in her own home.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: So a change in federal law allowing the states to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: have some flexibility and leeway in this or maybe be
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: able to present a locally inspired option to the federal
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: government for approval, would that solve the problem, Congressman Davidson?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, the bill I've got just gives control to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: the state for public safety. So you could regulate the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: railroads for public safety, and it kind of cars out
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: that federal caveat. It would let state law take effect
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: if there was a state law, which in Ohio there
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: has been. And unfortunately, we just can't get past the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: federal courts because of the way the law is being applied.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: And, you know, we're trying to get support. So working
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: with Vice President Vance's team, he's been sympathetic to doing
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: some overhaul of the railroads. So I guess we're going
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: to take a look at it, and we'll see.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Where we go. Not as sexy a topic, Congressman Davidson,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: considering everything that's going on in the world right now
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: as we fast approach November, but a very worthy topic
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: for discussion and a good exercise in discussions of federalism.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, don't go away, because I understand Ohio's going
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: to be getting some money from the Rural Health Transformation Program.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: We'll find out about it. It's 718 at 55 KRC,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: the talk station. Thursday, Congressman Warren Davidson. Every Thursday beginning
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: at 7.05, he's on the phone. We're talking about some
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: of the issues going on here in the state of Ohio,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: including $ 92 million coming our way from something called the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Rural Health Transformation Program. What's the genesis of this, and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: what's that $ 92 million going to go for, Congressman Davidson?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good catch out there in the news. Not necessarily
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: the biggest headline, but it'll be a big deal for
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: our rural communities. If you look at the big, beautiful
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: bill last year, the reason they call it big is
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: it was a compilation of a number of other bills.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: One of the things that we did, we saved $ 1. 7
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: trillion on all kinds of spending reductions. Part of it
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: was making sure Medicaid goes to people that need Medicaid.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: not to healthy, able-bodied adults. So we implemented work requirements
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: and not to illegal aliens. So we did that. And
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: Democrats say, oh, people are losing health care. Well, one
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: of the areas that got more health care was rural communities.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: So there's a big fund. Some of that money is
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: coming to Ohio, like 22 counties and places like Preble
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: and Dark County. You don't even have a pediatrician in
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: the county. So if you look at delivering babies, things
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: like that, it'd be great to You'll be able to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: do that at least within your own county, more locally.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: And so you're going to get more resources there into
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: our most rural communities around the state. I think it's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: a big deal.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I'm glad the rural communities are getting some love, which
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: they rarely ever do. I mean, often overlooked because, of course,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: there's not a high concentration of population in rural communities.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: So why bother with them, I think, is the general
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: attitude for most politicians.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the challenge for a
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: lot of the business model is it's like, well, we
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: just don't have enough critical mass to do certain things.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: But it creates a big burden, you know, particularly on seniors,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: how you get to these things. And then the answer is, oh,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: we need more public transportation. We don't have the population
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: density to do that real well in rural communities either. So,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: you know, if you look at the availability of these
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: kinds of cares, it's something that is needed around the country.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: And it'll make a big deal in part of our district,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: you know, Initially, all of this is going to be there,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: but we have two pretty rural counties, and both will
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: benefit from this program.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm listening to your words, and I'm contemplating because
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: I think you made a reference to SNAP, and they
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: keep finding more and more fraud. I know the advance
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: announced just yesterday that $ 42 million in alleged and proven assistance,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: additional fraud found, and all the illustrations underneath this fraud,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: you know, $ 45, $ 42 million, whatever. It doesn't sound like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a whole lot, but So far, they verified $ 641 million
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: of fraud, waste, and abuse just in the SNAP program,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: which made me think about the work requirement. How is
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: it that we as a society and the government decided
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: that able-bodied people, no disabilities, of working age are even
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: eligible for something? They don't bother to get up, lift
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: a finger to find employment, or otherwise engage in the system.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: I find nothing wrong at all with the work requirement
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: and education requirement. That seems to be a plan and
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: a system designed to help people help themselves. By denying
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: you benefits for free without any effort, your effort may
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: result in yourself being free to the umbilical cord of government. Look,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: a trade job. Work a little bit, get a job
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: in the trades, which are in abundance out there, and
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: you have freed yourself, and you can go on and
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: then learn how to complain about taxation. Congressman Davidson.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, work requirements aren't generally partisan in our district,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: but they're partisan when you call the votes. They didn't
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: used to be partisan. I mean, Bill Clinton cut this
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: deal with Newt Gingrich back in the 90s, and it
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: reformed welfare. And you think about the whole concept. I mean,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: you get unemployment for able-bodied people because they were working.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: They lost their jobs. People say, well, that's not big
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: enough to cover everything. Well, okay, they expanded it. But
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: for a time, just look at it like in your
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: own household, your own family, your own good friends. I mean,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: you'd help a friend or family member in need out,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: but not forever. And when you know they could help themselves,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: you're going to be like, you're going to get a job, right?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: Or you're going to go to school or at least
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: do something useful to help somebody. And that's the same
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: thing you would do for friends and family. It shouldn't
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: be considered mean for the government to do the same thing.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: And that's what it was. It was a huge partisan fight.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, we tried doing this when Paul Ryan was speaker.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: It passed the House by four votes. We had a
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: 24 seat, 24 Republican majority. And we lost 20 Republicans
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: on this. Couldn't get it through the Senate. And so
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: this was a big lift to get it done through the.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Big, beautiful bill.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: And mind-blowing to me how this could even be like, oh,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: it's so unfair. And you're like, no, we created it
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: to help people that are truly in need, not somebody
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: who could do something.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, somebody who could do something shouldn't be eligible, period,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: end of story. They're not necessarily in need. It's just
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: for want of a little effort on their part that
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: they're not out working in the field or working to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: some degree.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: And all these opportunities that exist, the programs that exist
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: to help people out of and away from a reliance
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: on government, they're everywhere. I just... It bothers me that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: the Democrats want to enable sloth and lethargy. They're the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: party of enabling people to just do whatever they want.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: You want to be a naval contemplator, that's fine. Here,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: this is basically like just money to just live. It's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: like guaranteed income. You're guaranteed food under the SNAP program
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: even if you don't lift a finger. We are here
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: in society at this point in time in America. I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: just find hard to believe, but that's how government grows
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: and grows and grows and never gets any smaller. And
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: this has now become a purely partisan thing. Congressman Davidson, work, effort, wow.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's the same playbook. Everyone on the
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: political left, they want more government and less freedom. And
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: we're hoping to make sure that all the people on
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: the right want more freedom and less government. We're working
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: on our own party, but hey, let's make sure we
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: hold the ground we've gained. I mean, look at France.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, they get massive amounts of free stuff. 35-hour
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: work week, and people are rioting and protesting in the
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: streets because they say they need more free stuff. They're
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: hooked on it. Well, you can't outbid the radical left
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: on more free stuff for more people because they will
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: always want another level of free stuff. And why do
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: they do this? It's not because the free stuff actually
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: fixes society or addresses the problem. It's because it delivers
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: power to the people that promise the free stuff. So
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: it's become a tactic. And I think we're bankrupt in
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: our country financially and morally with this. And I hope
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: we take note of the results and change course.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: And get in and vote this November or before November.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Polls are open. Please do not vote for the Democrat
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Socialists of America, which is literally any Democrat that's running.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: That's the direction they're going. Free stuff and things for
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: no work while we dig ourselves deeper and deeper in
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: a $ 40- plus trillion hole that does require debt service every year.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davidson, thank you so much for your time
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: this morning. As every morning, I wish you the best
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: of luck as we fast approach the November election. And,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: of course, vote for Congressman Davidson when you go into
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: the polls. Congressman Davidson, thanks again.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: Hey, thanks, Brian. God bless you and all your listeners.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: And you, sir. Stick around. Signal 99 on the Hinton trial.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: And the announcement about former Fire Chief Washington, Cheryl Long,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: I think is probably sweating bullets right now. We'll talk
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: with Signal 99 coming up next. It's going to be great. 726,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: it's the talk station. 630, 55KRC, the talk station. Happy Thursday.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. What a night. Great thing to have Signal
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: 99 on the 55KRC Morning Show. Online, I hope you
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: know by now over at Facebook, find Signal 99 and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: follow what is a collective of people that have the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: receipts on all kinds of craziness going on in and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: around downtown Cincinnati. Craziness like the firing of Police Chief Fiji.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Chief Washington also got fired. And we have swirling circumstances
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: like why did those people get let go? What were
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: the circumstances that justified their being removed? Nobody seems to
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: be able to come up with a reason to answer,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: and that subjects the city of Cincinnati taxpayers to legal liability.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: But also, Signal 99, it's going to subject city manager
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Cheryl Long to personal liability. Welcome back. It is so
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: nice to have you back on.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian. And it's a glorious day in Leicester.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: Cheryl Long.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Are you feeling that schadenfreude feeling that I was feeling
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: when I saw the post that you were first to
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: announce the NBank Court of Appeals? Now, previously, the Sixth
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Circuit Court of Appeals, with three judges on the panel,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: which is typical for the hearing, ruled in favor of
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Chief Washington. I guess they'd say he was wrongfully terminated,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: and insofar as Cheryl Long is concerned, normally would not
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: be subjected to personal liability. Apparently, what she did was
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: outside the scope of her employment parameters. So, yes, the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: decision to fire him, which was her decision, is going
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: to require her to be financially responsible, not the city taxpayers.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: That is amazing. So the appellate court determined that. So
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: they appealed. And the NBank appellate court, that's when all
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: the judges on the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals sit
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: and review the prior decision. 19 of the judges. And
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: you would think that it might be a lopsided decision.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: You know, like the Supreme Court, you know, 5-4 decision.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: The conservatives outweigh the liberals. 19 to 0.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they said absolutely not.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: That's a hell no. Hell no and a half.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 8: That's a hell no and a pineapple.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: And a pile of it.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 8: But you know, Brian, also, it's two different types of
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 8: immunity that are involved. The first being qualified immunity. So
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: the Sixth Circuit upheld that denial of longs protection. But
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 8: there's also the statutory immunity. So I know you're an attorney,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: so you know what I'm talking about. So if you
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 8: want to explain that.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: The defenses that Cheryl Long would assert to personal responsibility
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: for any monetary damage were thrown out, regardless of type.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: We don't need to understand the underlying basis.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: Yes, because she was malicious and she was deceptive and
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: she ignored the advice of her legal counsel from the
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 8: city because of all of these things, the constitutional violation,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: the false statements. the malice or bad faith. The federal
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: courts have determined that Cheryl violated his constitutional right to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: due process, and she admitted under oath that the city's
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 8: own attorneys told her he was entitled to a hearing.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: And she defamed him horribly. She made horrible statements about him,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 8: cost him his reputation, his professional reputation. So, I just,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 8: you know, there is a very huge spot in my
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 8: heart for Chief Washington.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's kind of the worst part about it.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: You know, he was very qualified. He had, you know,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: served in the fire department for so long, became the chief.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: 30 years. Yeah.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 8: 30 years with the CFD. He worked his way up
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: from the very bottom of the ranks.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: What an impressive resume that he could have gone out
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: into the world and gotten a position, you know, a
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: comparable position in some other fire department. He was deprived
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: of that ability because of what Cheryl Long did. His
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: reputation was tarnished. And otherwise, I mean, people would have
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: knocked down the door to get to Chief Washington if
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: this hadn't happened. If he said, look, I'm looking for
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: a new job, they would have loved to hire him.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 8: Absolutely. And it's just, it's really sad because he's not
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 8: just a great chief and a great firefighter. He's a
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: great human. And this whole bunch of shenanigans that the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: city has been putting on, they have been at the taxpayers' expense.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: And we just keep fighting it and fighting it. The
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 8: city knows they can't win. They know they're going to lose.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 8: But it's all about stall it out, stall it out,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 8: stall it out. Hopefully Mike Washington gets desperate enough to
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 8: let them hit him with a lowball offer. And I'm
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 8: telling you right now, it's not.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Going to happen no it's not and i've actually talked
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: with with former chief washington i get the impression no
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: that's not going to happen if i was him i
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: would be very firm in that position as well well.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 8: Not only that i've seen him as my.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Attorney too that is true he's good man um.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Steve M., he's not about any of that. And
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 8: the Finney Law Firm, they just don't play about this
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: type of stuff. So this is serious stuff. This isn't just, oh, gosh,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: lost his job. He'll find another job. No, they destroyed
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: his career, his professional name, his professional career. You don't
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: get to come back from that. And I don't care
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: how many zeros. They put on the end of that
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: settlement offer. It's never going to give him back what
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: he wanted. It's never going to bring his mother's health
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: back that has declined because of all of the stress.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 8: I don't know if you're aware of that.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: I am not aware that his mother's health has been
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: impacted by this.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the stress has absolutely just devastated his family and
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: especially his mom. who wasn't in stellar health, but, you know,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 8: given the stress of what her son's been going through,
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  Speaker 8: because I, you know, I don't, I don't know that
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  Speaker 8: Mike would want me to share this or not, but,
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  Speaker 8: you know, he's a very, Michael is a very spiritual,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 8: he's a Christian. He's very positive. He holds everybody up.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 8: He tries to help everybody. He's just an all around
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: great human. But he has struggled, especially this last probably eight,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 8: nine months. Just a deep, dark place with all of
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 8: this stuff going on. And it's because job offer after
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 8: job offer after job offer has been declined to him
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: because of the things that Cheryl Longs So all of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 8: these different jobs all over the country that he interviewed
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: for and kept hoping he'd get, you know, he wants
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 8: to go back to work. And when they fell through,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 8: you know, the stress just started to eat him alive.
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  Speaker 8: And it just.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we all need to pray for him. That's all
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Vindication may be around the corner. And, you know, all
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: the things you just mentioned and so much more, I
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: just keep seeing extra zeros being added to the ultimate
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: payout to former Chief Washington. Signal 99, don't go away.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: If you can, maybe a quick update on the status,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: the similar status of former police chief. 640-641-55KRC, the talk station,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Signal 99. Go to Facebook, find Signal 99, and click
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: on the follow link, and you get all the goods.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: And before anybody else, too, like that NBank ruling, still
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: hasn't been reported in local news to the best that
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I can tell, Signal 99, but that's what happened, and
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: we are all enjoying a measure of shot and for it. Now,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: pivoting over, any update on Fiji and the situation there,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: which is also going to result in taxpayers being responsible
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: for a settlement payment or an otherwise jury verdict?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I can tell you this. Chief Washington, has been
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: in contact with Chief DG. They actually keep in contact.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: They also share the same attorney. And Chief Washington is
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 8: paving the way for Chief DG.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: There's going to be a lot of things that the
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 8: city is not going to be able to get away
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: with the second time around. Well, I mean, they're not
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 8: getting away with it this time, but it'll be much
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 8: more expedient, I would think, with Chief DG.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: And a stellar career in law enforcement and a family
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: history in law enforcement. I mean, that's a law enforcement family,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: and everybody feels really sorry for Thieve being drugged for
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: their life.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 8: That's another 30 years with not a single write-up in
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 8: your file, just like Chief Washington.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and a complete absence of any explanation as to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: why they put her on administrative leave or let her
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: go in the first place. Hey, why did you do that? Well,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: let me hire a law firm, and we'll look at
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: it with hindsight, and we'll let you know down the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: road later.
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  Speaker 8: We all know why.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, we do, don't we? All right, pivoting over to
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: your criticisms about the situation going on. Rodney Hinton Jr.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: is on trial for murder or reckless homicide. I need
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: to have a word or two on that alternative jury instruction.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: But he, Rodney Hinton Jr., ran over, killed Deputy Larry Henderson,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: who had nothing to do with Hinton Jr. 's son
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: being killed by police officers because he brandished a weapon
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: at police officers. So apparently after watching a video of that,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: the police provided to them to give him context. He
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: broke down and then got into a car and ran
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: over Deputy Larry Henderson. Now, initially, he claimed not guilty
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: by reason of insanity. There's no doubt he did it.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: But then somewhere along the line, there was a pivot
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: to suggest that, well, no, he wanted to commit suicide.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: So he accidentally ran over Deputy Larry Henderson in an
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: effort to kill himself by running into a pole. That
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: came out of somebody's sphincter from my position. But where
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: are you on that one, Signal 99?
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  Speaker 8: Suicide my pineapples he was not trying to commit suicide
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 8: there's not no not even remotely and the only reason
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 8: he hit the pole was because he hit Larry Henderson first.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah and he adjusted the trajectory of his card I.
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  Speaker 8: Will tell you this I want to say this okay
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: Larry was my friend for many many years But I
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: want to tell you this. At the time. Larry heard
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 8: the car. Approaching. He had just enough time. To turn
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 8: his head. And his body. Just turn. When he got hit.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 8: Full force. Never put the brakes on. Never tried to stop.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 8: He lined up the car. Before he even gunned it.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 8: Towards Larry. There was no recklessness. homicide this was premeditated
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 8: murder and he said so hours before um in the
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: same room with the chief the chief cg iris roley
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 8: cheryl long he said y'all took one of mine i'm
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 8: gonna take one of yours.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: At right after watching the video right right after watching the.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 8: Video right after watching the the bwc video of his
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 8: son being shot.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: And killed statement of intent Motive.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 8: Statement of intent. And then he went cruising for it.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 8: He went cruising for the perfect officer. So, no. Call
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 8: me crazy, Brian. That's premeditated murder. And that's exactly what
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 8: he should go down for. And I'm so ashamed of
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 8: Judge Lubbers with her ridiculous act last week where You know,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 8: the Henderson family specifically asked, should we stick around?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, no.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 8: I'm just giving the jury directions. You guys are good
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 8: to go. And then wait till they leave to introduce
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 8: the lesser charge to the jury. Now, tell me about
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 8: Marcy's law, Brian.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 10: Tell me.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: We'll have to bring her back because it's already 745.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: And this conversation will go way past the break mark.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: So let's pause. Don't go away. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 8: So I can't cut into Judge McDowell's time because I
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 8: know he's up next and he's one of my favorites.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: No, he's on after the top of the hour news.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: I've got five more minutes to talk with you, Signal 99.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 8: All righty then.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Quick break. We're going to bring you back. Full half
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: hour with you today. Listen, I'm here at CD Talk Station.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: 748 at 55 KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas with
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Signal 99 talking about the... Hinton Trial. And getting ready
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: to have a go with the judge. Crime victims have
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: the right to reasonable notice, to be present and heard
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: at all court proceedings, to be informed of the release
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: of the offender, input on the negotiation pleas, prompt conclusion
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: of their case, etc., etc., etc. Crime victims and their
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: families have rights under Marcy's Law in the state of Ohio.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: And in fact, the Ohio Supreme Court has even issued
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: an Understanding Marcy's Law Quick Reference Guide for Judges. So
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: the judges know exactly what they are supposed to do
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: and not do. You wanted to talk about this in
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: the context of Judge Lubbers at the Hinton trial. Go ahead,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: Signal 99.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, well, no, I just want to thank you for
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 8: recapping Marcy's law.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 10: A lot of people don't understand what.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: Marcy's law is. So, yes, the Henderson family had every
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 8: right to talk about how they felt about a lesser charge.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 8: But they didn't know about the lesser charge until later.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 8: after they were already gone and had been introduced. And
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 8: I just am so disgusted with Judge Loopers for that
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: because I just don't believe that that was an accident.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 11: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how could it be? I mean, he was interviewed
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: by Dr. Jamie Adkins, the prosecution psychologist, to testify about
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: what he said. I mean, he said, I came to
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: a line, I heard somebody say something in the car
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: next to me because the window was down and I
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: looked over. Then I looked back and I seen that officer.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: And that was when I drove the car over in
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: his direction and hit the officer.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: Huh?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: And he said, no, I had to turn a little
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: bit to hit him when he was asked whether he
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: knew the officer.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 9: Hmm.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: So he admitted to making.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: I'm not laughing because it's funny.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: It's so disgusting. This whole thing. A, like I said
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 8: in my article, I don't believe that the trial should
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: have even been held in Hampton County. I believe that
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: people would lie to get on the jury, either to
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 8: convict Hinton or to acquit him. I don't believe that
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 8: 12 completely civil, civic-minded, altruistic jurors were seated without other intentions.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 8: I just don't. I just don't. I think it was
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: too big of an issue in Cincinnati, and I just
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 8: don't believe that none of them followed what happened.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Well, and shouldn't the– I was just going to say,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: shouldn't our elected officials be more supportive of the Cincinnati
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Police Department? I mean, silence is deafening reflecting further erosion of,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: I suppose, morale among the various law enforcement agencies. Internal
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: affairs cleared the shooting. The shooting was ruled justified in
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: a very short period of time based upon the video evidence.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Connie Pillich didn't lift a word, lift a finger to
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: let anybody know. She waited 47 days to let people
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: know it was justified.
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  Speaker 8: So, Brian, every, like, you can ask Joe. Like, every
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: two or three days, I was like, hey, today is
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 8: day 17. Do you think Connie Pillich is going to
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 8: clear the officer? Today is day 23. Do you think
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 8: Connie Pillich is going to? 47 days she waited. and
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 8: here's the thing. She saw the BWC footage the night that, that, um,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 8: Ryan Hinton was killed. Well, and you know, he saw
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 8: the footage that day.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: And you talk of the aftermath of that, that silence
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: can be really problematic given social media these days, because,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: you know, like killing a CEO by murdering him and
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: shooting him in the back of the head can make
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: a hero out of a murderer. Of course, um, Ryan
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: Hinton Jr. made a hero out by social media because, well,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: he killed a police officer. And they all claimed that
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: it was... and that the underlying shooting of his son
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: was absolutely uncalled for and was not justified in any way,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: shape and form. The prosecutor's office is the one that
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: should have been out there.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: And it was worse than that, Brian. So, of course,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 8: I'm the queen. I was online. This whole time. The day.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 8: May 1st. The day Ryan Hinton was shot and killed.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 8: I was online. And they were actually tagging. The Hinton family.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 8: Saying y'all better go kill a cop. Eye for an eye.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 8: Avenge your son. They shot that boy in the back.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 8: They shot that baby in the back. Blah blah blah.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 8: He was not shot in the back. He was never
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 8: shot in the back. The car was stolen. The handgun
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 8: was stolen. He was not shot in the back. He
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 8: absolutely did blade a firearm towards police officers and got
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 8: smoked for it. But the whole internet from all over
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 8: the world erupted and said, you better take vengeance. Take
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 8: vengeance and avenge your son's death.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Which he said he would do after... He had already
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: said that out loud in front of the police that
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: he was watching the video with. You know, I'm going
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: to take one of yours with me. And then you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: get social media piling on, and the guy has a
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: demonstrated history of some pretty serious mental illness problems going on.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: So they're egging on a guy who's already disturbed because
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: his son is no longer alive, who's angry about it
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: because the police killed him, ignoring the realities that ultimately
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: ended his son's life. But cognitive issues abound with this guy.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: So the worst possible case scenario on this, but ultimately...
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: It's a question of whether he knew right from wrong
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: under the insanity or not guilty by reason of insanity offense.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 8: He's not insane. Clyde is shady as hell.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: His attorney.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: Okay, so he's not insane, but that's the best defense
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 8: Clyde could come up with. What else is he going
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 8: to say?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 8: He just wanted to kill a cop? I mean, of
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 8: course he's going to say he was insane.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a defense attorney. You know. Your claim must
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: have merit. I mean, litigation myth number one. But, you know,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: as a criminal defense attorney, a lot of them are
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: placed in terrible positions.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 8: Clyde's probably more insane than him.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to have a go to Clyde.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Every defense lawyer is put in a position like this
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: at some point. You've got to give it your best shot.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: I know. I know, but I'm not an attorney, and
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: I actually don't hate Clyde. I just hate that he
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 8: agreed to take this case.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: Well, you got to give him props for creativity, Signal 99.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 8: But still, at the end of the day, Hinton's not crazy.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 8: And I'm terrified of what's going to happen over the
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: next day or two. I'm absolutely terrified. I'm not terrified
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 8: about riots if they convict him for murder. I'm not
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 8: terrified about that. And I'll tell you why. And I'm
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 8: going to say this. I'm going to say it out loud.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 8: Are you ready? If people want to riot, because Rodney
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: Hinton gets found guilty of murder, okay, I guarantee you
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: that the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office and the Cincinnati Police
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 8: Department will gladly meet them wherever they designate their little
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 8: riot to kick off. They'll be all in for that.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: I'm going to tell you that right now.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: Because one of their own was murdered. Good point, Signal 99.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Good point. Signal 99, I can't thank you enough for
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: the work that you're doing on behalf of the community,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: trying to make it a better place by revealing this stuff.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: And quite often, as was the case with the NBank ruling,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: City Manager Cheryl Long, sometimes the first person to come
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: with the receipts. 805 here, 55KRC, the talk station. Happy
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: Friday Eve, a.k.a. Thursday. I prefer the latter, or the former.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: In studio again, it's always a pleasure to see him
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: under any circumstances. Judge McDowell, we need to keep Judge
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Christopher McDowell on the bench. He's an outstanding jurist. He is,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: of course, a worthy jurist, and he's one of the
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: people we need around who understands the criminal justice system,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: the legal system generally, and doesn't play fast and loose
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: depending on who's standing in front of him in a
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: court of law. Judge McDowell, welcome back to The Morning Show.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: You heard my conversation with Signal 99.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I love Signal 99. As you know, she endorses me,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 11: as does the FOP. But she has her finger on
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 11: the pulse of what's going on in the city like
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 11: no one else.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: Like no one else. And one of the things I
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: brought up right out of the gate, first person to
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: know about it and mention it, and even this morning
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: no local news carrying it, although apparently it's certain, the
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: decision of the Chief Washington case in the appellate court
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: sitting and bank, which is all of the appellate court
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: judges in the Sixth Circuit. Now, first off, we had
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: the underlying decision came out of, what did I say,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: August of last year? Right. It was a two-to-one decision,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: fighting in favor of Chief Washington and also finding that
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: Cheryl Long is going to be personally responsible. She has
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: no immunity from the challenges against her, which is really
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: profound in and of itself. But then there was an
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: appeal for an en banc hearing, which is that all
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: of the judges on the Sixth Circuit hear the case
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: or review the case. And there were, what, 19 of
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: those judges. And the decision came back 19 to 0,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: upholding the prior decision, which suggests even the dissenting judge
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: in the earlier decision changed his mind or her mind.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't check who dissented. Am I right on that?
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's an extraordinarily rare thing. This also happened very
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 11: quickly because you're dealing with the Sixth Circuit. This is
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 11: not just Ohio. This is a multi-state jurisdiction.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: Good point.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 11: First, in order to get an en banc hearing, you
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 11: have to request it. They don't have to give you
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 11: that hearing. And it's very hard to get such a hearing.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 11: And so to get the hearing at all is extraordinary.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 11: And it suggests that the court is accepting it because
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 11: you're telling the court there's a division within the Sixth
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 11: Circuit Court of Appeals on this issue.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 11: So they said, OK, we'll hear this matter, which is
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 11: hard to hard to get. And then for them to
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 11: come out 19-0 on it, including the dissenting judge, that's extraordinary.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 11: That is a total slapdown.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: Huge slapdown, which is why I immediately experienced schadenfreude when
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: I first read about it from Signal 99 yesterday. So there,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate your additional wisdom and insight on that one.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: But also another reason to keep Signal 99 in this conversation,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: as well as bring up Mike Odioso, you're working on
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: a project with them.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, we're working on public safety and laws that coming
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 11: out of my experience as a judge that can help
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 11: public safety here in Ohio. And I had two suggestions
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 11: for Mr. Odioso and Signal 99. The first of which, again,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 11: coming out of my experience as a judge is, I
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 11: believe that it should be a separate criminal offense for
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 11: someone to cut off their ankle bracelet. To me, it's
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 11: a form of escape.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. Hold on. News to Brian Thomas, who's
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: never practiced criminal law except to be a clerk for
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: Merlin Shiverdecker back in the days. It's not a crime
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: to cut a monitor off?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 11: Well, they can charge you with things like destruction.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Property damage.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 11: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, Lord.
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  Speaker 11: But they never, ever do. I've never seen that charge brought.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 11: Those ankle monitors are very expensive. And when you cut
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 11: an ankle monitor off, that means, one, I've either put
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 11: you on the ankle monitor as part of your bond
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 11: or as part of your probation because I feel you
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 11: need to be watched. And when you cut that ankle
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 11: monitor off, it becomes a very serious matter. They come
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 11: immediately over to my courtroom. They say, someone's cut off
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 11: their ankle monitor. I issue a warrant for their arrest.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 11: And they have to go out and search for this person.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 11: And so I feel that it's a form of escape.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 11: And if it's a misdemeanor that you're on bond or
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 11: on probation for, It should be an automatic six months.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 11: If it's a felony that you're on bond or you're
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 11: on probation for, it should be an automatic one year added.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 11: We need to deter people from cutting off their ankle
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 11: monitor because for some people it's just a game.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: Clearly a game. We found out about it. Sarah Herringer
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: lost her husband in their own apartment and over the ride.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: She's since moved on with her life, and who can
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: blame her? But that guy who murdered her husband was
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: supposed to be wearing an ankle monitor and had been
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: out without an ankle monitor. He cut it off for
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: a long time. And that was at that point in time,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: I think most of my listening audience, me included, didn't
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: realize that they aren't monitoring the ankle monitor people. I mean,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: there's really no oversight. You get the impression when you, oh,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: you got an ankle monitor. It's got alarm is going
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: to go off. Someone's going to room with video screens,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: looking at, you know, geofencing locations where they can be
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: and cannot be. And the minute someone steps out of
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: that parameter alarm goes off and resources are sent to
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: pick them up.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 9: Nope.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Apparently none of that goes on unless you can correct
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: the record for me and my listening audience.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 11: Well, It's different for me. I have a very good
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 11: relationship with the EMD people. And so if somebody cuts
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 11: off an ankle monitor, who's on bond or probation to me, they,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 11: they know that they can call me at two o'clock
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 11: in the morning. They can drive to my house and
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 11: they have driven to my house at two, three o'clock
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 11: in the morning. And I signed that warrant and they
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 11: go out, they'll, they'll have that guy within hours, almost always.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: You mean a warrant needs to be signed when it's
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: obvious that someone has cut off their ankle monitor?
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: Yes. I, Well, I mean, I don't have any problem
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: with due process, Judge McDowell, but, I mean, they're under
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: parole parameters or under terms and conditions of the release
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: that they must maintain an ankle monitor. If you can
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: definitively tell that it's not on anymore and it hasn't moved,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: if it's just laying in a corner and has not
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: moved for a week or something, I mean, it's just,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: that seems to me that law enforcement should immediately be
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: sent to that location to pick them up or at
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: least an APB sent out that, hey, so violated the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: terms of his parole and he's out on the street somewhere.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 11: No, they come to me and they ask for a
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 11: warrant and I immediately sign that warrant.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: See, that's why we need to keep you. I'm kind
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: of curious to know, and I'll ask out loud sort
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: of rhetorically, how many other judges here in Hamilton County
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: are willing to have that open option and be woken
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night to make sure that
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: justice is served?
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 11: I'll tell you this. When I first became a judge,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 11: I was given a handbook that told me that I
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 11: should not sign warrants after 5 p.m. And this is
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 11: not a 9-to-5 job. Criminals don't operate 9-to-5, and judges
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 11: should not operate 9-to-5 either. And so it's not just
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 11: the EMD people that I let. I let all the
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 11: detectives in this city know, if you can't reach another judge,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 11: I would much rather you wake me up at 2
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 11: o'clock in the morning than somebody get hurt. And that's
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 11: the way all judges should think.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: And that is not to suggest that you're not reviewing
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: the warrant request for probable cause. It's just that you're
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: willing to do it at any given time of the
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: day when it's needed.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 11: That's right. And when they come to me, they've got
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 11: to go through the probable cause. This is the person.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 11: They cut off their ankle monitor. This is the time.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 11: This is what they're out on. What do you want
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 11: us to do, Judge? It's almost a rhetorical question to me.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 11: Go pick them up.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: Well, under what theory should a judge not engage in
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: that after 5 p.m.? I'm struggling with that one, Judge McDowell.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 11: I think that a lot of people look at it
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 11: as a 9-to-5 job. I can't answer that question. To me,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 11: it's not the way things should work. We have a
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 11: warrant database that we are supposed to check in on.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 11: And we're told basically this is, it's nine to five.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 11: It used to be, it used to be in common, please,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 11: that you would go and you would meet the officer
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 11: at a location. They would come to your house, but
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 11: now they expect you to get on your computer and
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 11: they say after five o'clock, you know, you're not required
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 11: to monitor. And so that's, that's not, that's not the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 11: way I operate.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: And there's no such concept as a night court running
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: 24 seven courts in downtown Cincinnati or in Hamilton County.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 10: No, sir.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 12: There should be.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 11: I mean, also for, The convenience of a lot of people,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 11: because if you go down to if you have a
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 11: job and you go down to court, you're missing half
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 11: a day, a full day's work. We should have a
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 11: court that starts in the evening for people so they
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 11: don't have to miss work. We should be in the
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 11: service business as well. And we're not in the service business.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 11: We sit there like kings and queens waiting for everybody
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 11: to come to us.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: Well, you are a taxpayer paid employee. I mean, it's
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: a beautiful thing that you can reach the lofty status
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: of being a judge. Obviously, people have confidence in your
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: ability in that regard. You've achieved the status that many
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: people will never achieve, but come on. It is a
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: 24-7 job because crime's 24-7. I don't understand how anybody
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: couldn't have that attitude. You know what? You're going to
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: have to work some overtime hours if you apply for
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: the job of a judge in Hamilton County. Okay, I'll
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: do that. Same thing for a lot of jobs.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 11: Well, as you know, if you go down to the
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 11: Hamilton County Courthouse on a Friday and At 2.30.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: No, it's deader than door to door.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's like the hotel in Shining. And there's nobody there.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 11: There's nobody there. A lot of these judges, they're coming
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 11: in at 10 and they're leaving at 2. Some days
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 11: they don't come in at all. And they're signing warrants
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 11: up to 5 o'clock. That's not what the people of
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 11: Hamilton County should expect. And that's not what they get
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 11: from me.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 12: I work.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: This is why we need to keep Judge Chris McDowell
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: on the bench. Help them out in any way you can. Obviously,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: vote for them. Keepjudgemcdowell.com is the website. It's his campaign website.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: You've been out putting out signs for your campaign at
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: all hours, just like your job. You have to go
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: out after work and put the signs up. But business
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: is good insofar as sign placement is concerned, Judge.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 11: I've got signs up all over the county. But I
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 11: normally put them up around midnight to 1 or 2
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 11: o'clock in the morning because there's no traffic. And that's
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 11: when I can do it because I've got a full-time
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 11: job during the day. The other week, I put one
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 11: up in the daylight, and I thought, gosh, this is
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 11: so much easier when the sun is out than in
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 11: the dark.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: Keepjudgemcdowell.com. One more segment with Judge McDowell. Before we get
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: to iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff, and after I mentioned
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: USA Insulation, yep, BCD Talk Station. Happy Thursday. Keepjudgemcdowell.com is
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: where you can help out Judge McDowell, who we definitely
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: need to keep on the bench here in Hamilton County.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: a veteran judge, lots of experience, and obviously committed to
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: the job of, I guess, only one judge in Hamilton
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: County that's willing to get up at night and entertain
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: a discussion about a search warrant being issued. Yeah, okay,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: that seems to be a logical part of the job,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: but he seems to be the only one willing to
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: do that. But also, you've got a word or two
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: to say about bonds, as in, Not James Bond, but
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: cash bonds, no cash bonds, own recognizance bonds, which seem
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: to be all the rage in Hamilton County as well.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Does anybody ever have to post a bond, even in
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: the most heinous circumstances? Judge McDowell, apparently not. I know
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: you've got some great illustrations of people who should not
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: have been allowed out on the streets without a pretty
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: decent bond.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah, let's go back to the definition of the own recognizance.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 11: What people need to know, it's called an OR bond,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 11: own recognizance. When someone's issued an OR bond, all they
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 11: need do is sign a piece of paper saying, and
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 11: then they walk out of the jail. They don't have
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 11: to put up any money. They just have to say,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 11: I promise to show up for court. I have seen,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 11: since I've been a judge, an O.R. bond on a
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 11: rape case, a felony of the first degree rape case
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 11: with an O.R.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: Bond.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 11: I cannot imagine being a woman who has been raped,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 11: reported that, gone through the rape kit, gone through all
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 11: of that, And then the sigh of relief that you
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 11: must feel when you realize the police have apprehended that person,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 11: that he's in the jail, and then to realize he's
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 11: just walked out of the jail, not posted any amount
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 11: of money, and how terrified that person must be.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: Well, remind the listeners the obligation of at least a
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: judge who understands the law here in Ohio, what they're
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: supposed to consider in determining whether or not a bond
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: is going to be issued or they're going to be
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: allowed on own recognizance.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah, the most important thing, for a felony of that degree,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 11: a felony of the first degree, in which you're looking
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 11: at between three and 11 years in prison, is public safety.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 11: We passed a constitutional amendment here in Ohio that says
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 11: judges are mandated to take into consideration public safety when
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 11: they issue bonds. There are other factors to take into consideration.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 11: But public safety should be your North Star when you're
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 11: looking at a rape case. The safety of that woman
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 11: who reported that rape, at a minimum, right? You need
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 11: to set a high cash bond. And then you also
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 11: need to, we've got this jurist monitor where the guy,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 11: if he's out would have to wear an ankle bracelet
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 11: that would put like a geo grid over the woman.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 11: So if he ever comes into that area, it would
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 11: send off an alarm. So she would know.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: So she would know that. I like that development.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: Cause of course, you know, keeping the public interest in
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: mind and public safety might of course includes the victim's
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: safety in this circumstances.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 11: I mean, To the extent anybody ever gets out on
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 11: a charge like that, they should have the jurist monitor. Because,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 11: you know, the police are minutes away when seconds count.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 11: And so if you are that woman and that person
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 11: is coming into that zone, it automatically alerts you so
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 11: you know, get the heck out of the house.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: Unless, of course, that person has cut their ankle monitor off.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 12: That's right.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: That's right. Which is a real problem here in Hamilton County.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: Jeez.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: And under what theory? I always want to default to
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: some sort of woke perception of the justice system, and
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: I presume that's where this springs from, but under what
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: theory should a rapist be allowed out with owner-cognizance bond?
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, is that good for society? I struggle with
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: that one, Judge.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 11: I can't answer that question because it's so beyond the
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 11: pale to me. You have progressives who portend to have
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 11: the interest of women and minorities at heart. But yet,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 11: when these people are let out, who's at risk? It's
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 11: minority communities, overwhelmingly. It's black-on-black crime that we mostly are
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 11: dealing with. They're going to go back to those communities,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 11: and they're going to hurt people in those communities. They're
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 11: going to hurt women. Time and time again, I see
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 11: bonds for crimes against women that are not protecting women.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 11: I review every felony, the first, second, and third degree.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 11: I conduct those arraignments to make sure that those people
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 11: are protected. Let me tell you this, Brian. No one
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 11: who has been out on bond to me since I
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 11: have been a judge has gone on to hurt someone
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 11: else while they were on bond. That should be the
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 11: same for every judge in this county.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: Amen, Judge Christopher McDowell. Keep Judge McDowell. Absolutely. Keepjudgemcdowell.com to
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: help us do that. And, you know, you mentioned this
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: whole concept of, you know, rapes and low bonds. I
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: saw that Cincinnati Police Department STARS report that they released
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: in terms of looking at last year versus this year.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: 241 reported rape offenses year-to-date through October 10th compared with
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: 154 last year. In other words, a 56.5% increase in rapes,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: and that's reported rapes, sir. Numbers are on the rise,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: and apparently some of the judges in Hamilton County just
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: don't seem to appreciate the gravity of that crime.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah, when there's no consequence, it's like juveniles. When there's
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 11: no consequence, criminals know it.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: Know your judges. Please, listening audience, spread the good word
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: about Judge McDowell and the other judges. GOPjudges.com and Hamilton
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: County Republican Party websites got it. You know, I don't
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: care what you say about the Republican Party, my blue-leaning friends.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: If you're voting for the judges on the blue sheet,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: you are voting for Yeah, zero bond for rapists, the
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: release of juveniles. without any consequence whatsoever. We could go
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: on and on. You get the idea. Words out. Let's
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: keep our eyes on the bench this year, and Judge
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: McDowell is a recipe for keeping the ship in the
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: right direction. Judge, thank you so much for your time today.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: I wish you all the luck in the world.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 12: Thank you, sir.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 11: God bless you.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: And don't run over Judge McDowell. He's out putting roads
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: or putting up campaign signs in front yards. The return
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  Speaker 2: Ratliff with a bunch of great topics in the world
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: of aviation. My friend Jay Ratliff, it's great to have
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  Speaker 2: you back on the morning show.
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  Speaker 12: You know, the nice thing, Brian, is there's so many
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  Speaker 12: good topics that pop up between our conversations. I always
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  Speaker 12: look for the ones that I think you would, uh,
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  Speaker 12: respond to the best, but throw me any curve ball.
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  Speaker 12: You see, brother, something's not on the list.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was busy talking to Judge McDowell on the break.
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  Speaker 2: And that's normally when I pull up my aviation news
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  Speaker 2: for the day. And that's where my curve balls typically
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: come from. And since I didn't get the chance to
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  Speaker 2: do that, you apparently know about something that's cropped up
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  Speaker 2: since I got here. No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just used to it.
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  Speaker 12: And in your, you know, I do 1500 or so
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  Speaker 12: segments a year across the country. And when it comes
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  Speaker 12: to you, you always, I never have to feed you
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  Speaker 12: the stuff and you just, you know, repeat blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 12: It's such a fun discussion. So fire away, brother.
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  Speaker 2: No, I listened. I really enjoy this. And certainly everybody
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  Speaker 2: can tell if I haven't said it out loud before,
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  Speaker 2: it is a welcome diversion from politics. And, uh, well,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: the end of the society, basically I'll sum up everything
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  Speaker 2: going on in the world all in one breath there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. The TSA pausing its expansion plans
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  Speaker 2: on gate access program. This relates to non-passengers, as I
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  Speaker 2: understand it, Jay Ralph. It does, Brian.
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  Speaker 12: And what they've done is they said we're at a
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  Speaker 12: point now where we feel comfortable that we can kind
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  Speaker 12: of return to the old days and allow non-ticketed passengers
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  Speaker 12: to go past the security checkpoint, be screened. And that way,
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  Speaker 12: if you want to accompany a friend or family member
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  Speaker 12: to the gate to see them off, you can. If
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 12: you want to go to the gate to welcome someone home,
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  Speaker 12: you can. And the ultimate plan is to roll this
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  Speaker 12: out at more than 300 airports. But they have 13
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  Speaker 12: right now that they're working on, and they're still working
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  Speaker 12: out some of the bugs. So they said, for now,
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  Speaker 12: we're going to keep it at the 13, and maybe
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  Speaker 12: the rollout plan is going to be slightly delayed past
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  Speaker 12: what it was going to be. But it's just a pause.
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  Speaker 12: And one of the things I was looking at was, okay,
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  Speaker 12: are they talking about taking this off the table? And
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  Speaker 12: from what I'm seeing, no. And for all the business
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  Speaker 12: owners that have shops on the other side of the
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  Speaker 12: security checkpoint that before could enjoy all the traffic of
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  Speaker 12: both ticketed and non-ticketed passengers, I'm thrilled that that additional
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  Speaker 12: revenue is going to come their way. Because believe me,
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  Speaker 12: it's a very, very tough business when you have to
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  Speaker 12: have a business in an airport and count on just
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  Speaker 12: passengers that are rushing to the airplane to be your customers.
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  Speaker 12: So to have people show up early and get a
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  Speaker 12: drink or something to eat or something like that before, during,
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  Speaker 12: or after is great. But yeah, the 13 airports right now,
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  Speaker 12: and I don't have a list of those in front
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  Speaker 12: of me, Brian, but they are at this point in time,
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  Speaker 12: it's going well, but they they've identified a few things
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  Speaker 12: they need to work out before they're going to continue
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  Speaker 12: the expansion.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Historic fare increases. And that seems to me under
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  Speaker 2: current situation involving aviation fuel going through the roof, I
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  Speaker 2: would think historic fare increases should be expected throughout the
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  Speaker 2: entire world. But this relates to Ryanair and airfares in
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  Speaker 2: Europe next year.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, the CEO for Ryanair. And remember, Ryanair is one
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  Speaker 12: of your and I's favorite topics because that CEO is
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  Speaker 12: somebody who said, We really don't need seats on an airplane.
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  Speaker 12: Let everybody stand up and just kind of hold the
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  Speaker 12: thing over their head like they do on a subway
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  Speaker 12: or a train. He's also the one years ago that
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  Speaker 12: had to pay toilets at the lavatories on a plane.
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  Speaker 12: So this is kind of a maverick with a different
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  Speaker 12: kind of view on the world. But he made a
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  Speaker 12: very good point. And he said that next year in 2027,
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  Speaker 12: we're looking at fair hikes in Europe unlike anything they've
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  Speaker 12: ever seen before. And the reason for that goes back
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  Speaker 12: to another topic you and I have talked about on
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  Speaker 12: fuel hedging contracts. Airlines have been known, especially here in
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  Speaker 12: the United States, to enter a contract where you negotiate
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  Speaker 12: the price of fuel in advance. You lock it in
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  Speaker 12: for a set period of time at a set price.
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  Speaker 12: If the fuel prices drop, the airlines are paying more.
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  Speaker 12: If the fuel prices go up, the airlines are paying less.
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  Speaker 12: It's a consistent amount for the fuel that the airline
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  Speaker 12: is getting. Now, when COVID hit, fuel prices dropped, you know,
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  Speaker 12: they plummeted, and a lot of airlines here in the
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  Speaker 12: country had these fuel hedging contracts locked in where they
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  Speaker 12: were paying way more for fuel than the going rate.
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  Speaker 12: So we've gotten away from it here in the United States,
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  Speaker 12: but in Europe, about 70 to 80 percent of airlines
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  Speaker 12: use these fuel hedging contracts that go back quite a ways. Now,
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  Speaker 12: those contracts expire at the end of the year, which
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  Speaker 12: means that these airlines that have been enjoying these lower
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  Speaker 12: prices for fuel that they've been able to pass on
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  Speaker 12: to customers are now going to have to push the
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  Speaker 12: airfares higher to reflect the market demand. And what the
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  Speaker 12: Ryanair CEO is saying is the fare increases are going
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  Speaker 12: to be so significant, 20, 25, 30% and more, it's
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  Speaker 12: just going to be horrific and it's going to put
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  Speaker 12: a lot of carriers in harm's way if they're not
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  Speaker 12: going to be doing well financially. So For any of
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  Speaker 12: our audiences looking at traveling to Europe, as many do
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  Speaker 12: on an ongoing basis, I would suggest grabbing your tickets
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  Speaker 12: as far in advance as you can. Obviously, get the
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 12: trip cancellation insurance to protect yourself. But with these fuel
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  Speaker 12: hedging contracts, these safety nets expiring on all these airlines,
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  Speaker 12: and they're forced to renegotiate the next round, if it's
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  Speaker 12: a year, year and a half, whatever it might happen
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  Speaker 12: to be on those contracts, they're going to be paying
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  Speaker 12: a much, much higher price for fuel than what they're
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  Speaker 12: doing right now. And that's the reason that these airfares
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  Speaker 12: are going to go up so much.
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  Speaker 2: That's to be expected. Don't go away. More with iHeartMedia
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  Speaker 2: aviation expert Jay Ratliff. And I guess if you had
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  Speaker 2: the dime to get into a Ryanair lavatory, can you
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: get out of it? Don't go away. Locked in a lavatory,
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: among other stories, with Jay Ratliff. I'll be right back.
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  Speaker 8: 55 kick station. You ever been in a cockpit before?
• 2:04:40
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  Speaker 2: every Thursday for the last half of the... 8 o'clock hour,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: which I love, and the curveball I'm throwing at you
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: this morning, hot off the press this morning, along the
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: similar lines as Ryanair conversation about fare increases. American Airlines
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  Speaker 2: just released its expectations on earnings, and it's not looking good.
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  Speaker 2: Revenue failed to help the airline recover from, yes, the
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  Speaker 2: spike in fuel costs. They said it expects to lose
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  Speaker 2: between $ 1 and $ 1. 60 a share on a dusted basis.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: Forecast earnings of up to $ 0. 65 a share to a
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: loss as low as $ 0. 65 a share. And the stock's
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: down in pre-market trading. There's one among many airlines that
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: are going to go through the same thing, wouldn't you say, Jay?
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 12: But, you know, Southwest this week also reflecting higher fuel
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  Speaker 12: costs said we're going to make money, but not as much.
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  Speaker 12: Of course, we had Delta with their earnings as well.
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  Speaker 12: And for all other airlines other than American Airlines in
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  Speaker 12: the country, Brian, it seems like we're going to make money,
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  Speaker 12: but not as much. poor American, they're just limping along here.
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  Speaker 12: And it's a matter of, well, we're going to lose,
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  Speaker 12: and now we're going to lose more. And that's one
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  Speaker 12: of the reasons that when the discussions, I can't call
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 12: them discussions, when the topic was floated around about American
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  Speaker 12: merging with a United, something like that, that a lot
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  Speaker 12: of people laughed it off. And I thought, well, look,
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  Speaker 12: if I'm an American Airlines stockholder, I like that idea
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  Speaker 12: a lot. Because American, it's almost impossible for them to
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  Speaker 12: make money given their current model They're really having a
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  Speaker 12: difficult time. They've got high labor costs. Some of their
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  Speaker 12: fleet is a little bit older, so the maintenance costs
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  Speaker 12: are higher. Just a lot of challenges, including several of
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  Speaker 12: the markets that they continue to fly into that aren't
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  Speaker 12: quite as profitable as what they have been. They're trying
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  Speaker 12: to turn things around from a customer service side of things,
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  Speaker 12: which I do like, but there's only so much you
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 12: can do. And I suspect, and I would not be surprised,
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  Speaker 12: if in the very near future, you hear that joke
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  Speaker 12: kind of resume like, yeah, wouldn't that be funny if
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 12: these two airlines got together? Because I think that there
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  Speaker 12: could be some discussions because under the Trump administration, this
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 12: type of merger would be allowed. Now, I think under
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 12: the Biden administration, there might have been a little bit
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 12: of pushback given the fact of how many routes would
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 12: overlap and how many cities would lose service because they
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 12: wouldn't have as much service. And airfares would go up
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  Speaker 12: as a result of two carriers becoming one. But they've
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  Speaker 12: got to do something, Brian, because they can't keep losing
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  Speaker 12: money at a time when other carriers are making money.
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  Speaker 12: Remember last year, United and Delta headquarters, a quarter where
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 12: they reported a billion dollar profit. If American rolls out
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  Speaker 12: a profit, it's in the hundreds of millions of shares.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 12: And normally it's 200 million or something along those lines.
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  Speaker 12: It's a fraction of what other airlines are making. So Yeah,
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  Speaker 12: I'm not surprised with the news that American came out with,
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  Speaker 12: and it's just another continuation of a story for them
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  Speaker 12: that really doesn't change the direction of where the airline
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  Speaker 12: is going. They're talking a good game, but they're just
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 12: not making enough logistical-type changes to affect the outcome on
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  Speaker 12: the revenue side.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: DayTradeFund.com. I bet there's money-making opportunities even with a stock
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: that's not predicted to do really well during the year
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: based on your methodology.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 12: I'm not one of the buy, hold, and pray kind
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 12: of guys.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 2: I know that. I just bring it up.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 12: I'd like to use it and leave it alone. Because
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 12: I watch stocks, I see some of these aviation and
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 12: other types of stocks, and I can see if somebody's
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 12: about to spend a half a million dollars on the stock,
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 12: because you can see the listed, the limit orders in place.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 12: And I see people grabbing these blocks of shares for
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 12: a half a million dollars, quarter of a million. And
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 12: I'm thinking that that's probably gonna drop another 15, 20%,
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 12: sometimes within the day. And it does. And I'm just,
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 12: you know, just because you've got a lot of money
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 12: doesn't mean it's a smart decision. I used to watch
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 12: people do that and think, hey, they know what they're doing.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 12: And I would buy shares along with them. only to
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 12: find out, oh, I'm now down 15%. I should have
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 12: done what I thought to do. But aviation stocks right now,
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 12: it's tough. Any transportation-related security is a difficult buy right
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 12: now for me because of the fact that there's so
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 12: much of a challenge right now. And the idea is,
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 12: especially on the aviation side, well, when the fuel prices drop,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 12: So will the fares. And look, all the CEOs have
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 12: pretty well made it clear. Look, even when fuel prices drop,
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 12: we don't see the fares changing much.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 12: Because the demand for travel is there. And it will
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 12: allow the ones making money to make even more money.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 12: And that's, you know, again, if the demand is there,
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 12: they're not changing anything. Because everything they do is reflective
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 12: of their advanced bookings. If the advanced bookings start to
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 12: drop off, then they adjust as they need in certain markets.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 12: If they don't have to and they can make money
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 12: and the yield or the profit per passenger remains high,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 12: they're going to bleed us for every single little bit
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 12: they can and without apology or a thank you, by
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  Speaker 12: the way, for flying them.
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  Speaker 8: True.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hang on, Jay, because we're going to bring up
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  Speaker 2: the story. Well, American Airlines will remain in our topic
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: of conversation coming up next about scary moments on an
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: American Airlines flight, but also locked in a lavatory on
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: an airplane. I don't even like being on an airplane,
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: let alone a lavatory on an airplane. That sucks. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that one.
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  Speaker 4: The talk station.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: 848 at 55 KRC, the talk station. Tech Friday with
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: Dave Hatter tomorrow. Big bomb dropped the other day on
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: this hack that could shut down like 70% of the website.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: But without further ado, I heard aviation expert Jay Ratliff
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  Speaker 2: is going to tell us about, well, it's an American
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  Speaker 2: airline flight out of St. Louis. You say scary moments?
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  Speaker 2: What happened here, Jay?
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  Speaker 12: Well, they had passengers that had boarded this American Airlines
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 12: flight to Chicago. And Brian, they had a problem with
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 12: the engine. In fact, they tried to start it up
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 12: and it was making all kinds of noises and Certainly
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 12: concerned a lot of the passengers. And the pilot said, hey,
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 12: we've got some issues with the engine. We're going to
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 12: have to get it looked at by our maintenance team.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 12: The maintenance team came out and looked at it. Two
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 12: hours later, they are cleared to leave. So back in
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 12: the plane, off they go. The plane takes off. Fifteen
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 12: minutes later, that engine fails again drastically. And now the
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 12: cabin starts to fill with smoke and haze. The crew
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 12: declares an emergency. They come back. They land in St.
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  Speaker 3: Louis.
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  Speaker 12: They order an emergency evacuation. Everybody's out. All of the
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 12: emergency exits to get off the plane. So apparently the
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 12: maintenance issue was not properly addressed or fixed. I don't
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 12: know the specifics there. But I am not surprised to
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 12: say that we had passengers who didn't let us down.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 12: Many were dragging their large hand-carried bags that they removed
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 12: from the overhead storage compartments. against the instructions of a
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 12: uniformed flight attendant, idiots, slowing down the delay or slowing
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 12: down the emergency evacuation of an aircraft, which continues to
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 12: be the case without any single bit of consequence from
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 12: the FAA for people that disregard that safety instruction. It
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 12: just drives me crazy. And sadly, you and I are
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 12: going to be talking about one day when somebody gets
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 12: seriously injured or killed because of idiots stopping to collect
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 12: their overhead baggage.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and before you pointed that out, I was
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  Speaker 2: just going to say, there are no atheists in a
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  Speaker 2: smoking plane with engine trouble, you know? And then here
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: you go. You're going to delay everybody else getting off.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: I guess you're really not that concerned about your life
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: or anybody else's. All right. Pivoting over.
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  Speaker 12: 90 seconds is the time that it should take to
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 12: get everybody off that airplane with half the exits blocked.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 12: Now think about boarding an aircraft 40 minutes and it
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 12: takes 90 seconds or less. The miracle in Toronto, you
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 12: can look that up. It was a, Air France flight that, yeah,
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 12: landed long, went off the runway, caught on fire. You
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 12: look at what, nothing was left of the aircraft. It
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 12: was just burnt to a crisp. And you look at
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 12: that and wonder if a single person survived. Everybody survived
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 12: because the flight attendants got everybody off in less than
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 12: 90 seconds. We had an American Airlines flight on fire
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 12: in Chicago. It took four and a half minutes to
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 12: get everybody off the stupid airplane because the idiots stopped
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 12: to get their luggage.
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  Speaker 2: Can't believe that. Well, no, sadly, I can, Jay, because
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: you mention it all the time.
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  Speaker 12: It's just something that's got to change, Brian.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: It's got to change. I'm with you, man. All right,
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: what happened with this? How did a passenger get locked
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: in a lavatory? Isn't that kind of hard to do
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: in a plane lavatory?
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 12: Well, apparently it's pretty easy to do because this 69-year-old woman,
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 12: she was on a transcontinental flight, Seattle to Newark, I believe,
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 12: United Airlines, just goes to the lavatory. And when she's finished,
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 12: the door won't open. She can't get it open. she
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 12: makes enough of a ruckus. The flight crew comes over.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 12: They try to unlock it to help her to get out.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 12: The door won't budge. It's stuck. She's in there now
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 12: for five minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, going on 20.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 12: And finally, the captain says, look, we can't have somebody
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 12: in a part of the plane that if we have
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 12: to have everybody seated with their seatbelt on to be secured,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 12: because that's not the case in the lavatory. So they declare,
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 12: it wasn't necessarily an emergency, but they had to divert
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 12: towards Chicago. Because the plane was, let's land in Chicago.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 12: If the maintenance teams come on, take the door apart
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 12: to get this poor woman out of there. But finally, Brian,
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 12: as the aircraft was on its approach into Chicago, they
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 12: were able to finally get that door busted open enough
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 12: that they could get her out. Now, I'm sure that
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 12: this woman, you know, a lot of people are already
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 12: anxious flyers. But, you know, I mean... To be stuck
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 12: in a lavatory for 15 minutes or more for a
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 12: lot of people would be very uncomfortable. For those with
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 12: a little, you know, claustrophobia, it would be very, very bad. And,
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 12: of course, I'm sure when she came out, everybody gave
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 12: her a round of applause of some kind, which only
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 12: makes it even more embarrassing. Although the round of applause
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 12: was probably, hey, you know, we don't have to go
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 12: to Chicago. We get to keep going to Newark, which
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 12: is good. But I am sure United is going to
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 12: apologize in a very significant way she might get 5,000
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 12: frequent fire miles. Maybe I'm being a little bit too optimistic,
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 12: but yeah, look, the United CEO just came out saying
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 12: that a wealth tax should be in place and there
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 12: should be a hundred percent inheritance tax. So United is
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 12: a very left leaning company. And even the CEO feels
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 12: important for him to, uh, comment on things that he
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 12: has absolutely no business commenting on.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: Well, and I appreciate you commenting politically on the 55
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: KRC morning show.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, no.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: That's enlightening information for my listening audience. Uh, and well,
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: let's face it. It'd have been a lot worse if
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: that blocked bathroom was on the previously mentioned flight. That's smoking.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: There's another reason.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 12: And that's, you look and you just, and what happened
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 12: was they just, after that, they got the lady out
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 12: that lavatory is in op. Nobody can use it. They
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 12: can use the remaining lavatories.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 12: But yeah, if you can't be seated, and there have
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 12: been discussions at times to put a seatbelt in the lavatory.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 12: Can you imagine?
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 5: No.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: Especially, it's one thing to be claustrophobic. The other, if
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: you're a germaphobe and you're stuck in a lavatory. Oh,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: my gosh.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 12: Exactly. Those discussions never went far for all the obvious reasons.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, since we're almost out of time, let us,
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: as we always do, end on hub delays with the
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: local weather report. I can imagine flying in and out
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: of CBG is okay, but it depends on where you're going.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: What's it look like out there, Jay?
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 12: Really, anything east of the Mississippi is good today, but
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 12: I think Phoenix and Denver are going to give us
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 12: some delays, minor delays at those hubs. The rest of
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 12: the country is just a beautiful, beautiful day to take
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 12: to the skies. If you picked today, you picked a
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 12: good one.