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Dave Bartoo & Bo Dive Into Lane Kiffin's Playmastery · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 1: a little.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit again, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: the floor is what concerns me.
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  Speaker 1: With Levy with because he's had two stinkers in four years, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, and again is depends on how you know beauty
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  Speaker 3: in the eye of the beholder, you know, on something
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  Speaker 3: like that, you know how how much of a stink
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  Speaker 3: or they are.
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  Speaker 1: So I do think a six foot four, two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty pound quarterback who can actually run in his
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  Speaker 1: mobile and has the ability to extend plays and by
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  Speaker 1: time could make Jeff Levi's numbers a little bit better,
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  Speaker 1: a lot better.
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  Speaker 3: And you look inside the numbers. He wants to run
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  Speaker 3: the ball right right, I mean, which is a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a great thing, especially in the SEC.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you look at your you look at your
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  Speaker 3: best offensive play callers in the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: You're successful guys.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and you know Now, last year, I will give
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  Speaker 3: you Vanderbilt was run on a passing game in Pavia. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: but you go after that, and I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: long that sort of offense is sustainable at Vanderbilt, right right,
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  Speaker 3: And so you look at bigger samples.
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  Speaker 1: But what they did, I think is they did what
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  Speaker 1: worked for Diego. So give Tim Beck and Jerry kill
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  Speaker 1: at it, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know they morphed into what he could do, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what they felt he could do.
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  Speaker 2: But then you look at your much much better.
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  Speaker 3: Sample sizes, your your guys have been doing a long time, right.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. And you look at Hypel loves to pound the run.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. You look at Lane Kiffen. We talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about it yesterday. Third, medium, third and long.
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  Speaker 3: He had more runs run pass ratio, more runs than
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  Speaker 3: anybody else in the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say that again, right, Lane Kiffen, Third and short.
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  Speaker 3: Third medium, so third and three to four, five and
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  Speaker 3: six right, third and seventy nine tens.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he had more third and.
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  Speaker 3: Eleven plus his rush to pass ratio. His percentage was
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  Speaker 3: the highest in the SEC in all of those categories.
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  Speaker 1: That tells me Lane's playing two downs at third down.
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  Speaker 1: So he's like, hey, if we can rip off six here,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm going forward on fourth and three. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: we may run it again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I haven't run his numbers on fourth down, right,
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  Speaker 3: that would be really the big question.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, you know what really you know? Is he playing
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  Speaker 2: for two like that?
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  Speaker 3: What we did discover though, is in his tempo is
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  Speaker 3: he is very methodical. In the first he is much
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  Speaker 3: more under control than a lot of guys. First, second,
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  Speaker 3: third quarter tempo is pretty much the same thing. Stays
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  Speaker 3: in the game or just naturally takes the lead, and
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  Speaker 3: then fourth quarter starts to push the tempo, push the
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  Speaker 3: pressure and and ramp it up. Whether he's leading or trailing,
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  Speaker 3: it almost seems like he just starts putting on the
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  Speaker 3: gas to either catch up and win a game or
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  Speaker 3: finish somebody off and take the game. Because, as we know,
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  Speaker 3: in the SEC you play to lose, you're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Lose, right right, Yeah, that's what you have to go
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  Speaker 2: get the dub, right, especially on the road.
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  Speaker 3: You got you you have to try to make it
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  Speaker 3: happen in that manner.
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  Speaker 2: So and he was.
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  Speaker 1: He lost one home game in the last three years
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  Speaker 1: of his time in Oxford. He lost to Kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: So that is that's incredible defending your home field and
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  Speaker 1: losing one time in three years.
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  Speaker 2: Right, there's that.
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  Speaker 3: And the one of the big reasons he lost to
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky is he could not find the momentum game control
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  Speaker 3: he needed. So in his career, when he doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: momentum game control in his possession for the game, he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have peak game control. He is one in sixteen,
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  Speaker 3: So he has to find it somewhere in the first
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  Speaker 3: you know, somewhere in the game. He has to find
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  Speaker 3: that that momentum. He doesn't recover from it, neither is Kirby.
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  Speaker 3: Kirby only has one win in his career when he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have peak game control. So but with Kiffen, I
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  Speaker 3: do love the numbers showing that he is when he
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  Speaker 3: is leading in the fourth quarter, he actually picks the
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  Speaker 3: tempo up to put more pressure on a team to
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  Speaker 3: try to stay with him, you know. But I think
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  Speaker 3: that is his experience, that's an experienced play call or
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  Speaker 3: knowing that you know, in this scenario, I can put
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  Speaker 3: more pressure and try to force mistakes by running the game,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in the manner that he calls it.
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  Speaker 1: five nine The Zone. It is crazy that for decades
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  Speaker 1: we didn't talk about play callers. And now how much
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  Speaker 1: you and I talk about it, how many great and
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  Speaker 1: you have grades on everybody, and how important it is
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  Speaker 1: as inn oc and DC and then you decided whatever
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  Speaker 1: that was, to really put an emphasis on red zone
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  Speaker 1: play calling.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Ray, can you punch? I mean, can you get points? Right?
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  Speaker 3: You know there there's a convert It's it's like explosive plays.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody talks about explosive plays, and explosive plays is actually
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  Speaker 3: split into two important categories, non scoring and scoring.
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  Speaker 2: Right, if you.
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  Speaker 3: Lead an if you lead an explosive scoring plays, you're
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  Speaker 3: winning eighty plus percent of the games.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Leading in non scoring explosive plays, especially when you're on
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  Speaker 3: the road in college football, you only win about fifty
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  Speaker 3: five percent of the time. Okay, So there is a
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  Speaker 3: huge difference between that scoring explosive scoring play and punching
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  Speaker 3: it in and just the explosive scoring play. Ben, don't break.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 1: every and I'm my eyes our eyes fullest, right, we
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  Speaker 1: think we know what we're seeing on game day. But
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  Speaker 1: I feel like as I watch Lane Kiffin that every time,
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  Speaker 1: not every time, there's like a large percent of the time,
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  Speaker 1: which would even be like twenty to thirty percent, but
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  Speaker 1: it feels like thirty forty fifty percent that people are
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  Speaker 1: just running wide open when he calls plays. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm going overboard, right, but it feels like that,
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  Speaker 1: like all the sudden, udden he calls a play and
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  Speaker 1: there's a wide receiver tied end wide open.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it just it's you don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the numbers are.
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  Speaker 3: You just feel that he has more guys get wide
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  Speaker 3: open right than than you know. And so somewhere in
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  Speaker 3: the design right and the coaching of his offense, he's
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  Speaker 3: able to get the guys wide open in the structure
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  Speaker 3: of the game.
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  Speaker 1: But you remember what we talked about last night at
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  Speaker 1: Philip Ems is also the players absolutely believe that those
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  Speaker 1: play plays are going to work. And there is something to.
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  Speaker 3: That, right, They're they're the mental component right there, the
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  Speaker 3: intangible like you can't put a number on it, like.
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  Speaker 1: We're good and we know we call that. Our coach
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  Speaker 1: calls all these good plays and I'm going to be open,
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  Speaker 1: right and the quarterback is going to deliver the football.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and I'm gonna catch it right right, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's it's it's complimentary football, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you have the offense has to support the defense. The
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  Speaker 3: defense has to support the offense because the scoreboard is
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  Speaker 3: equal on both sides, right, Well, the home team doesn't
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  Speaker 3: get eight points for.
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  Speaker 2: A touchdown, they still get seven, right, right, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's that emphasis on complimentary football and then
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  Speaker 3: the emphasis on being able to trust the teammates. You
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  Speaker 3: have to have everybody all on the same page for
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  Speaker 3: that full strength. It's the same thing with your program.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have the fans believe the head coach.
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  Speaker 3: You have, the staff has to believe the head coach,
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  Speaker 3: the boosters, the players, everybody has to believe in the
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  Speaker 3: culture and concept to be at maximum power.
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  Speaker 1: Which is what happened under Kiffen and Mullen. Yeah at
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss even more so with Kiffen and Olmen. But
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  Speaker 1: that's what happened in Oxford with Kithen and then start
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  Speaker 1: Right and struggle with Dan to take it local right.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody believe that when Dan or Lane walked on the
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  Speaker 3: field there there, there probably came a point where you
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  Speaker 3: were in that stadium and you're like, everybody is one
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  Speaker 3: on the same page and believes we're going to win today,
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  Speaker 3: right everybody right, I mean from the from the eighty
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  Speaker 3: to the president, to the biggest boosters in the box,
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  Speaker 3: to the best students the band to the third string guys.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is like, this is what we are going to
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  Speaker 3: do to win this football game. And to me, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's it's all that has to be connected.