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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Fan Reaction to LaMelo Ball Trade · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The Hornets can take Kobe White, who can be nearly
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  Speaker 1: as productive as the mellow ball with a lot less style,
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  Speaker 1: and plug him in there, and you know they get
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  Speaker 1: something that they want to move forward. Look, LaMelo Ball's
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  Speaker 1: incredibly popular among kids and everybody in Greater Charlotte. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in that fan base loves him. But Tony I
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  Speaker 1: don't trust him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you're asking me to understand this, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta understand it from Minnesota's point of view, and I
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  Speaker 1: understand the purpose. The purpose is to give Anthony Edwards
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  Speaker 1: someone who can help him avoid being double team every
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  Speaker 1: time he walks out of the locker room before he
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  Speaker 1: gets upset and wants to jannis himself somewhere else. I
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  Speaker 1: got that, well, LaMelo Ball, Ladello Ball misses like an
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  Speaker 1: average of twenty five games a year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't trust him.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a bag, a deep bag, as my son says.
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  Speaker 1: I get all that, but I don't trust him to
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  Speaker 1: be an All Star, a great player alongside Anthony Edwards.
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  Speaker 3: That is Michael Wilbon on PTI adam to the very
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  Speaker 3: long list of people that say Hornets won the trade.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get what Minnesota's doing. I will say this
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  Speaker 3: bone one thing about this, and a Zach from Miami
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  Speaker 3: kind of fired back and said, oh, the national media,
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  Speaker 3: big deal, the national media likes the trade. These are
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  Speaker 3: people that don't care about the Hornets, But these are
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  Speaker 3: also people that aren't emotionally involved, Like we are as
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  Speaker 3: Hornets fans, and we are so bummed that you get
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  Speaker 3: rid of this captivating player that has such an impact
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  Speaker 3: on the offense and that helped this team give us Like,
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  Speaker 3: I know it's down weird in other cities, but what
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  Speaker 3: happened Bone from January first on as some of the
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  Speaker 3: most enjoyable stuff we've had in Charlotte sports Bone in
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  Speaker 3: a decade, Like especially yeah, well basketball, it's at the top,
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  Speaker 3: but like, I know, it's sad, but it's true, man,
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  Speaker 3: and we thought we were gonna build on that momentum.
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  Speaker 3: So it's I'm sorry if it's taken us a while here.
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  Speaker 3: I will also say this two bone. Many international media
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  Speaker 3: never really liked LaMelo Ball, so there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people boned that thought LaMelo Ball is not a winning
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  Speaker 3: basketball player. I don't like his shot selection, I don't
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  Speaker 3: like his attitude, I don't like the way he drives go.
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  Speaker 3: There are a lot of people who just never like LaMelo.
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  Speaker 3: So when they see this trade and Minnesota's big response
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  Speaker 3: to making sure ant Man is happy in winning is
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  Speaker 3: adding LaMelo. Well, those people, it's just it's put on
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  Speaker 3: a te for those folks, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, the LaMelo haters were definitely
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  Speaker 2: coming out yesterday and some of the stuff and I
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  Speaker 2: think some of the grades. Macknage give you the bio
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  Speaker 2: information real quick though that I read on NAS read here.
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  Speaker 2: During his high school career, he was He's a Massbury Park,
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  Speaker 2: New Jersey. Shout out the great Bam Bam Big Low
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  Speaker 2: also where he's from. During his high school career, he
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  Speaker 2: was a member of the Jelly Fan in internet movement
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  Speaker 2: focused around wild figure roll way ups. So his nickname
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  Speaker 2: is Ben Big Jelly. Now you go back, Hey Jelly,
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  Speaker 2: the only one of the Jelly Fan to make it
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  Speaker 2: to the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: Is he the skinniest man named nickname Big Jelly.
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  Speaker 2: You can't.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine bone anybody's that thin in his name
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  Speaker 3: nickname Big Jelly, Big Kelly's got to be a big dude.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the time he played guard in high school?
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  Speaker 3: How about that? How about that? Maybe is he the
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  Speaker 3: new point guard? Is that why we acquired him? I
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  Speaker 3: do love nas Read. I heard people giving KB a
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  Speaker 3: hard time yesterday because KB was trying to like point
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  Speaker 3: out how perfect of a fit he is. We've been
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  Speaker 3: looking for this stretch for for a while. KP was
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  Speaker 3: saying the same thing, and he's like he like us,
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  Speaker 3: Like we were all mentioning him as a player that
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  Speaker 3: would be a fit here right for a while. But
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  Speaker 3: like so KB was like pumping nas Read up and
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  Speaker 3: if fans didn't want to hear it, right because we
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  Speaker 3: lost LaMelo ball, I still am of the belief Bone,
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  Speaker 3: like we honestly want to know, are you guys coming around?
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  Speaker 3: Are you less angry about the trade? Are you still
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  Speaker 3: furious today? I'm I'm understanding the reasoning more, I think, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: But I still wouldn't have done it. I would have
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  Speaker 3: tried to build on this this core, and I would
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  Speaker 3: have you know, Lamel's got three years left on his deal.
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  Speaker 3: If I was gonna pull the trigger on a trade,
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  Speaker 3: I would have done it later. But I'm sure the
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  Speaker 3: counter from that front office, and I'm not sure they'll
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  Speaker 3: ever speak honestly about this. But I think the counter
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  Speaker 3: would be, we're afraid that this is the high for
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  Speaker 3: his trade value, like that he would get injured again
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  Speaker 3: and his trade value would drop again. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of why they did it. I personally would
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  Speaker 3: like to see that core get an. I mean, Jeff
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  Speaker 3: Peterson literally said it last year. This cour has well.
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  Speaker 3: I guess he said it the trade deadline. There's a
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  Speaker 3: difference the trade deadline. He said this corps has earned
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  Speaker 3: the right to keep playing it out. He clearly didn't
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  Speaker 3: mean any longer than just the rest of that regular season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, And I did bring it up with plow
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  Speaker 3: Right on the red thing. There there is some similarities
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  Speaker 3: between not their games, but when the Hornets acquired Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Mason in nineteen ninety six, mac from the next he
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  Speaker 3: was a six man with the Knicks, one of the
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  Speaker 3: best bench players in the league. Won the six Men
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  Speaker 3: of the Year award in nineteen ninety five. Naz Red
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  Speaker 3: won it a couple of years ago. Then when Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Mason got to Charlotte, he became a starter and he
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  Speaker 3: really took his game to his best level. Averaged sixteen
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  Speaker 3: eleven and five in year one here. So there is
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  Speaker 3: some similarities of let's see nas Reed be one of
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  Speaker 3: the main vocal points of a team. He hasn't really
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  Speaker 3: been that in Minnesota, and yet he's still been very productive. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's just a winning player. He's the type of guy
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  Speaker 3: you get a player like that and he helps you win.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, you need the big studs around him, right
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  Speaker 3: which they've had some of there, But he's just does
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  Speaker 3: winning things. And yeah, if you got to start him
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  Speaker 3: at the four, I feel good about it. Grant Williams
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  Speaker 3: as his you know, off the bench, would be beautiful there.
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  Speaker 3: But then again, you have Steinbach too. I wonder what
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  Speaker 3: I just this is Jeff Peters is gonna Jeff Peters
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  Speaker 3: is gonna cook Like I just we're gonna talk about today,
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  Speaker 3: how the roster looks today, and how we feel about this.
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  Speaker 3: But the feeling I think we all have is there's
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  Speaker 3: more to come. They have the trade exception, and you
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  Speaker 3: can't fully analyze this until you see what they bring in.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, you might not be able to fully analyze
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  Speaker 3: this what they're doing in the front office for a
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  Speaker 3: few years until you see what do they use all
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  Speaker 3: those draft assets on? We do have twelve first round
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  Speaker 3: picks in the next seven years. We have three first
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  Speaker 3: round picks next year. What did you, Luki? So here's
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  Speaker 3: the question, because we're getting a text here about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious what y'all's answer is to this one. You know,
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  Speaker 3: bug Nation, y'all think Texter says, I understand a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the logic that they have a gut feeling he
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  Speaker 3: won't be able to stay healthy, that they're not in
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  Speaker 3: a hurry, that they're trying to do the build the
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  Speaker 3: right way. But it honestly feels like if they sold high,
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  Speaker 3: the value in return at the high market is very disappointing.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to ask everybody out there, like, do
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  Speaker 3: y'all think they got enough? Or does it bother you
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  Speaker 3: that they didn't get enough? Like I think we all
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  Speaker 3: love nas Reed. Do you think they got enough form
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  Speaker 3: bonu or we Are you disappointed in the return?
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  Speaker 2: Initially? I was when I saw when the first round
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  Speaker 2: pick was the pick. Swaps don't really mean a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but I think when you factor in the trade exception
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  Speaker 2: and how much that is the largest league history, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't the full the full deal yet the forty two
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  Speaker 2: million dollars weighs so much into this deal, so we
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  Speaker 2: haven't even seen mac what might be the biggest piece
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  Speaker 2: of this trade. They can also still tinker with this thing,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, a little bit until July six. But
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  Speaker 2: when you factor in how much money from a trade
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  Speaker 2: they got in here, that has to be mentioned too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a player to analyze yet. We don't know
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  Speaker 2: who that will be, but they have to use it
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  Speaker 2: so within a year, right, So I think when you
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  Speaker 2: factor in that part of it, if it was just
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  Speaker 2: nas Reed the pick of twenty twenty three, the pickswaps,
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, man, that is nowhere near enough. But you
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  Speaker 2: know they're gonna do more stuff here, and that's pretty exciting,
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  Speaker 2: I think too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah it is, But there was nothing more exciting than
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  Speaker 3: LaMelo ball and the way he played, and it's just
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  Speaker 3: he makes people emotional. Now some of y'all are texting in.
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  Speaker 3: I got called childish bone for telling McAlpine Doug you
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  Speaker 3: didn't like McAlpine Doug says, I told you yesterday it's
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  Speaker 3: a great deal. But McAlpine Doug, I said, you're probably
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  Speaker 3: the type of fan that didn't like him, and I
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  Speaker 3: got called child that's one guy. To Charlie childish, I
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  Speaker 3: called childish for telling him what he feels, takes his
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  Speaker 3: ball and goes home all the time on the text file.
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  Speaker 3: But that was right, Dougie.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't that?
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  Speaker 3: I was right? Some fans just they don't like the driving,
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  Speaker 3: They don't like the you know, kind of care free, silly,
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  Speaker 3: goofy attitude.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of things. So to
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  Speaker 2: those sort of fans.
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  Speaker 3: But to the fans that like love the ridiculous passes,
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  Speaker 3: the lobs, the you know, no looks, the crazy shots
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  Speaker 3: that he hit like, you can't deny the entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: Value of this dude.
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  Speaker 3: And the whole media world, it felt like Bone, most
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  Speaker 3: of the media world, it felt like, was telling us
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  Speaker 3: for years he ain't a winning player, and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of us said, just let him get the partl around him,
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  Speaker 3: let the support around him be healthy, and they add
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  Speaker 3: con Brandon's healthy, and I'll be damn bone if he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't a part of the best starting lineup in the
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  Speaker 3: league one hundred and thirty seven points per one hundred possessions,
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  Speaker 3: which is absolutely absurd, Bone. They were plus twenty seven
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  Speaker 3: per one hundred prossessions when when that group was together,
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  Speaker 3: and LaMelo Ball specifically was ninety ninth percentile in on
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  Speaker 3: off numbers, often sufficiency. He had one of the biggest
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  Speaker 3: offensive impacts around the league. So it's like, I'm sorry, man,
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  Speaker 3: Like I think you, most of us are gonna be
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  Speaker 3: emotional about losing that about breaking that starting lineup. I
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  Speaker 3: thought they'd break the starting lineup, but I thought it
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  Speaker 3: would be Miles Bridges and I was hoping they'd upgrade
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  Speaker 3: the position. I was not expecting them to take the
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  Speaker 3: guy that is the best player on the team away,
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  Speaker 3: And like James says, like they're very well going to
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  Speaker 3: be a worse team next season, but that's not what
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  Speaker 3: they're striving for. They're striving to be championship contenders down
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  Speaker 3: the road. And I just I think we as fans,
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  Speaker 3: it's natural bone to want to see that group run
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  Speaker 3: it back because we're not used to that sort of success.
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  Speaker 3: But what they're doing in the front office, I think,
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  Speaker 3: and I appreciate it, is they're taking the emotion out
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  Speaker 3: of it. Yes, and I think I think it could
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  Speaker 3: end up really great, and I want to at least
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  Speaker 3: acknowledge that, But I also want to acknowledge why Hornets
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  Speaker 3: fans are so in their damn fields. Why some guys
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  Speaker 3: screaming out of his window to w CNCs Carboni angry,
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  Speaker 3: which we need to play it a few minutes. By
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  Speaker 3: the way, we can't wait much longer. Carboni found a
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  Speaker 3: new style just interview people at stoplights. That's oh yeah,
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: stoplight interviews. You got to run with that Carboni trademark.
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  Speaker 3: That part in my stop this texter says mac great rants.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is the offense was even more efficient with
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Kobe on the court. That that is a point too,
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  Speaker 3: whereas like, can you plug Kobe Kobe's The offense efficiency
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  Speaker 3: numbers with Kobe on the floor Bone were one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and twenty five points per one hundred. Mellows was ninety
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  Speaker 3: nine percentile in difference, he was one twenty three. So yes,
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  Speaker 3: in a small sample of twenty one games with the Hornets,
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  Speaker 3: we were even a better offense with Kobe. So that
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  Speaker 3: gives you the that should give us the feeling like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: this thing probably won't fall apart offensively.
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  Speaker 2: Can I give you an historical example of what this
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  Speaker 2: reminds me of and why I think it'll be okay
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  Speaker 2: ultimately if you give them time and let them to
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: keep adding pieces. Here Mac, remember when the Sacramento Kings
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: got better in the late nineties early two thousands, they
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  Speaker 2: accried Chris Webber. They had all these pieces. Their point
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  Speaker 2: guard was beloved by the fan base. He was flashy.
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  Speaker 2: He with White Chocolate Jason Williams. And once they got better,
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  Speaker 2: they realized, oh, to get to another level, we don't
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  Speaker 2: know if white Chocolate's the guy. They traded White Chocolate
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  Speaker 2: way for Mike Bibby, and then what they do the
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  Speaker 2: next two years, so everyone was mad. They traded Jason
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  Speaker 2: Williams away. They traded for Mike Bibby, and then they
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  Speaker 2: got better and went the two conference finals.
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  Speaker 3: Are you saying that white Chocket was as good as
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  Speaker 3: LaMelo ball though I'm not crazy?
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  Speaker 2: To me, well, listen to me. The fans reacted with,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, how do we do that? But guess what,
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  Speaker 2: Bibby came in there. They got better because he was
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  Speaker 2: better for postseason basketball than Jason Williams was. I think
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  Speaker 2: they could still maybe feeling their in their minds, wea
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  Speaker 2: bello can get us to a certain level, but when
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  Speaker 2: we get to the postseason and we need a more
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  Speaker 2: trusted guy, than mellow. I just the Jason Williams. I
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  Speaker 2: understand you're trying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's a direct comparison to Jason william
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  Speaker 3: I'm tell you right now, he was a globe trotter.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Williams half the first of all. Half the allure is,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, look how this guy plays, and he's white,
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  Speaker 3: first of all. Honestly, that was half the allure. Oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, look at how this guy plays and he's
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  Speaker 3: a white dude. Like I just I thought there was
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  Speaker 3: no substance with Jayson Williams. I believe there's substance with Amelo.
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  Speaker 3: I believe there is d and I believe he improved
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  Speaker 3: his game.
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  Speaker 2: Point they traded a fan favored away, and they did
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  Speaker 2: it because they had to get better and more trusted
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  Speaker 2: in the postsene and and they did that with Bibby,
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  Speaker 2: and then they got the two conference file. I guess
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  Speaker 2: I understand your point. I just want to make clear.
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  Speaker 2: So he had their offense, but he had their offense, hummin.
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  Speaker 2: The King's offense was incredible. But then Bibby came in
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  Speaker 2: as a more steadying force type guy rather than the
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  Speaker 2: flashy guy, and it got them to where they eventually
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  Speaker 2: were better, and then they ran in the Lakers one
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  Speaker 2: did they're.
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  Speaker 3: Starting a lone UPOUTU put up one hundred thirty seven
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  Speaker 3: points per one hundred persessions.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure it was kick of that good with
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  Speaker 2: like chocolate. I'm just saying it's an example of the
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  Speaker 2: past when the team made a move because they felt
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  Speaker 2: like they reached their peak with that current roster. They
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  Speaker 2: added a different guy and they got better for it.
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  Speaker 2: No competition, says great example. Bony Spoiled Sportsman says Jason
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  Speaker 2: Williams was a baller. I believe he's one of the
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  Speaker 2: most overrated basketball players in my lifetime. I'm gonna flat
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  Speaker 2: out tell you how I feel about Jason Williams. I
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  Speaker 2: thought there was no substance there whatsoever. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was all flair. I thought he should have played for
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: the Globe Trotters. To be honest with you, but I
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  Speaker 2: guess Bone, as I say this, that's what some people
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  Speaker 2: think Lamello is. The national media acts like that's true.
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  Speaker 2: What they think LaMelo is here. Let's get our guy
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  Speaker 2: in here real quick. Let's see here.
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  Speaker 3: People like Bone's point. A great example, says find more deodorant.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I just had to get out there about
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  Speaker 3: Jason Williams. I just I was never impressed by all that.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to this Carbony on the streets thing.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Because this thing went to barstool, they tweeted it out.
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  Speaker 3: How many views did you say.
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  Speaker 2: This they had? Bone, Uh, it's in a million range millions.
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  Speaker 3: This is just a dude. Nick Carbony of CNC goes
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  Speaker 3: up to at a stoplight right by the arena and
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  Speaker 3: gets lamello ball trade reaction. And this man is reacting
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  Speaker 3: the way many on the text slide that reacted La mellow.
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  Speaker 4: Ball man trader, lamellow ball from the Horners. That's like
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  Speaker 4: y'all traded Michael Jordan of Chicago Bulls. Y'all already didn't
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  Speaker 4: give us Kobe Bryant. Y'all keep messing up.
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  Speaker 2: The team chemistry.
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  Speaker 4: He was the highest on the team. He bought us
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  Speaker 4: all the ticket sales, He made the most points on
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  Speaker 4: the team. It was nobody else better than him.
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  Speaker 3: I swell.
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  Speaker 4: He made it. He made it great for what he
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  Speaker 4: wont He made us want to come here. Man, Look
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: look at my man's gonna side the building. Looking now
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  Speaker 4: they gotta take them off. Man, it's crazy. Why would
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: y'all trade LaMelo? Bring back LaMelo? Reverse the trade, tell
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  Speaker 4: him reverse the trade.
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  Speaker 3: Man appreciation.
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  Speaker 2: Was Lamello hawking something out of his wafe. This has
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  Speaker 2: to be called back carbony, aar bony where he interviews
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  Speaker 2: people that stopwise and when he turns green, they're gone.
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  Speaker 2: They have they have like thirty seconds to a minute
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  Speaker 2: to get their pointed and they're gone. I love the
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: guy's buddy from the pass just getting involved too. It
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: was made it beautiful to watch. Man. Damn, I need
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: more of this.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: By the way, Jake Williams averaged nine points his final
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: year with the Kings. Man, I get the point you're.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Trying to you You're you're more stuck on the actual
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: like individual I'm talking more about. The Kings realized, oh
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: we were down for a while. We got better. This
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: dude sold a ton of jerseys. He's a fan favorite.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: He plays a certain style. The Kings realized that's wonderful.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: But they made that decision that was probably tough. Oh,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go get Bibbi because we feel that he's
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: better long term to get us where we need to go.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: And if they didn't get screwed by the Lakers and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the calls, they probably would have went to the NBA
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Finals after that move. That's all I'm saying. That I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: was a better player, just in terms of the flair
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and the love people have for him. You're stuck more
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: on the exact game comparison that I was better. But
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: in my mind, the Kings had have made a tough
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: choice they did, and the Hornets here had to do
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: something similar. Yeah, I'm not sure it was that tough choice,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, but the text Life loves
• 17:17
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• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Bone loves your point, and there's apparently a lot of
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Jason Williams fans white chocolate fans on.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: The text line this is why you're a big old ass.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: That's not live. I wasn't live that live. That was
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the Bone thought it. I don't know when that was.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: That could have been. Was that nineteen twenty, That could
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: have been twenty two, That could have been any year.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Do we now have a feature Bone where your thoughts
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: get played live on the air, like you thought that
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I think and it just played.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Let's try what am I thinking right now? That mac
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Nee's to shut up so we can go to break.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Oh you got it. Owen Waterson of SI is gonna
• 17:51
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• 17:53
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• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Mac and Bone
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• 18:21
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• 18:25
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• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Longer time you turned down chocolate.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Oh man, Bone, Bone would get held that all break?
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Just how does a perfect comeback?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: All break? That wasn't live? That was a sound effect.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: That would be a great feature if we play the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: sounds of what Bone's thinking in his head.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Leaking at me.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's possible to do though, but Tam,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: that'd be a feature. What am I thinking right now?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: And we got to get to the guest, No, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: was thinking about the Brady Mit What was their series finale?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Because I don't remember what it was. Man, you were
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: a little distracted on a Friday, weren't you?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Oh my god?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It's but anyway, random crap is coming up. We have
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: some fun stuff coming up in random crap. I tried
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: a couple of new fast food places in San Antonio.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I gotta get we got to talk about these joints.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: And apparently Pete Prisco has put only one panther on
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: this top one hundred list, at least one.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I feel like last year he didn't do any but
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: it all become we all come back to agreement on
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Pete pritsco here in the next hour.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: All right, but obviously this is a day that's going
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: to be just like yesterday, all about LaMelo coming to
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: terms with this deal and trying to make some sense
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And let's do this.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Our next guest vowed to his followers on Twitter to
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: come on the Mac and Bone Show and if not
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: outright cheer people up, at least try to give some
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: perspective Bone on this Hornet's trade for LaMelo ball that
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: has Hornets fans very emotional. And he joins us here
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: on the Mack and Bone Show. Owen Waterson part of
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: that crew covering the Hornets at SI and he joins
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: us on the Mac and Bone Show, Owen.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: So what's going on? Man? How you doing?
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: It's been a long forty eight hours, brothers, I tell
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: you what.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: You've been doing?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Good though, man, you've been active a lot of the Hornets.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: You know, media and stuff have been very active on this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: We'll give you forty two dollars for this interview right now.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: What so, okay, so do you let's just talk about
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: your opinion of this, Like I think we've had an
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: extra day to try to see. Okay, here's maybe what
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the hornets you're thinking. Do you Are you at the
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: point where you like it for the Hornets or is that?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Is that too strong of a word for it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's probably too strong of a word,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: but I don't. I'm not at the point where I
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: hate it. I'm actually pretty proud of myself for the
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: way that I've kept the emotions out of this. You know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: I run a Hornet's a story account at history account
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, so I do care.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: But I think when when you do this, you have
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: to do a really good job of trying to do
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: biased and ultimately, when you when you look at this,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: the reason I feel like I can talk people off
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: of the cliff is you got to look at Okay, see,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: you got to look at Sam Press, you got to
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: look at what they've done over there, and ultimately, this
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: is a move that Sam Presty would make. Whether you
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: agree on the cell high, the price doesn't really say
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: sell high. But I think you have to keep in
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: mind that we only saw two, you know, really healthy
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: seasons from LaMelo, and I think that really heavily factored
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: into the offers that they got. I still don't love it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: I love what LaMelo did to this city. I love
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: to fill with this offense, but it's clear that the
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: front office didn't feel that way long term, and and
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: given that that's the case, they did what they could
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: to go get more picks. They now have the second
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: most first round picks in the entire NBA, which is
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: something you have to be excited about. And I don't
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: think people understand that this decision was not taken lightly.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I mean even at the media event for Hanna Steinbach
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: and Christian Anderson. I mean you could just look at
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Charles Lee and Jeff Peterson and tell that they were
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: just exhausted by the mental fatigue that making this decision
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: put put on this team. And they made it anyway
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: because I truly think in four or five years, which
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: is hard to see right now, that down the line,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: this will make more sense. Kimba didn't make sense in
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: the moment, but we got LaMelo less than two years later.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Zach Wowe had some audio yesterday on his podcast about
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the Hornet's not trusting Mello to hold up with physical toughness,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: say in the postseason, when you're going to be in
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: a series maybe with the Pistons or the Knicks or whoever.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Do you think that was part of this, that they
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: ultimately just didn't trust Melo when it came to maybe
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: postseason basketball to handle the physicality that that entails.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know that it's quite they didn't think he
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: could handle the physicality. I think it's more so I
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: don't know that they were willing to take the risk
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: to find out if he could handle the physicality, you
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Because a lot of people were
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: frustrated about the price. But I think where the Hornets
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: ultimately landed is I even heard folks saying, you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: why didn't they wate fifteen to twenty games until the
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: season to give him a chance to you know, up
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: his value even more. But all of you know takes,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: it would have been five games and LaMelo to you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: fracture his ankle another time, and then they're probably never
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: getting anything for him again and have to sit on
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: this contract in dead money at that point for another
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: two years. And I think that's really what they were
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: trying to avoid in doing this now. The trade player
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: exception is something that everybody's been talking about Jefn brownsman everywhere.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's gonna happen at all. Frankly, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: think your best option again, I want to go back
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: to Sam Presty. That's what I've tried to tell everybody.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Jalen Brown doesn't make a lot of sense. Job doesn't
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: make a lot of sense. They're very lateral moves. You know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: you can always come back to, well, you could have
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: just kept lamelow if you're talking about those guys. But
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: when you start thinking like, okay, see, you start thinking about, oh, well,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: they're probably gonna use this trade exception to go get
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: a really bad contract. They're probably gonna get more assets
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: for a really bad contract to fill out their depth
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: play this season. Let con let Brandon get better, see
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: how Brandon plays going into the last year of his
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: rookie deal, and see if they decide to extend him.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I'm of the opinion they'll let him play out and
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: go into restricted free agency, but we'll see. I think
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: they're just really trying to play this smart, play it slow.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: And as many times as Jeff Peterson said he's gonna
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: be patient, I don't think we've taken him seriously enough
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: when he said that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: You're you're the second guest to say that. James plow
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Wright said it earlier that he his guests would be
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: that the exception could be to take in, you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: a bad contract in order to get more picks back,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: in order to have you armed when you are ready
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: to make that big move.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It's just hard.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Like as a fan, I know you get this because
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: like you like, you know, you started doing this right
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: because you're a fan, you know, so like we and
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: we all did. It's it's hard for fans though to
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: hear that because we just had this fun second half
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: of the season. We want them to try to add
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: to the core, right, we want them to keep the
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: core together, add to it, and hey, can we win
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: fifty games? Can we be a top six seed? But
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: what you're saying, it might turn out that right now,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Like to fans, it's upsetting us because we want to go,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: go go. I mean, we could look back at this like,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: do you do you kind of feel this way? Like
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: we could look back at this in four or five
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: years and say, my god, Jeff Peterson was a genius,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: even if it's hard to feel that way right now
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: as a fan.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And I'll give you guys a Charlotte example just
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: to kind of put it into perspective.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: That.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: So, and what was the twenty eleven I believe it was,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, when they traded Jered Wallace to
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Portland for the first time after the extension, he was
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: just on West and Walker not long ago and said
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: that he was really blindsided by that trade. I mean
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: that hurt everybody, right, yea. So to get traded to Portland.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: The nets were all in on the Dwight Howard trade
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: right down Orlando, the infamous standan Gundy clipped and the
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: most awkward press conference you've ever seen in your life.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: And the nets end up falling through one d White
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: and they end up trading for Jered Wallace from from
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Portland right to get that contract that they traded for
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: from Charlotte to pick that Brooklyn traded to Portland for
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Gerald Wallace ended up becoming Damian Lillard. And I know that's,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: you know, not a pick that Charlotte ended up making,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: But these are the kind of things that you have
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: to think about when it comes to long term And
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I want people to understand, like despite somebody told me yesterday, well,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Nico Harrison made a move like this for Luca, And
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: you know you're gonna tell me that front offices always
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: think about their moves. For a guy like Jeff Peterson
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: this early into his job, you cannot make a decision
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: like this without understanding the ramifications if you get it wrong.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: And to me, as young as he is into his
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: tender he doesn't make a decision like this unless he
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: was like a full belief in the long term it
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: was going to benefit this organization. You gotta give yourself
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: enough swinging to the pinata.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's what I'm saying.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: But you said this too, right, like a day later,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you start to kind of understand maybe what they're thinking, right, yeah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: even if you don't still love it yet.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Well, we have some news now that might excite you guys,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: some breaking news. We're gonna have owing to Mac react
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: live right now. What happened now? Per not a hold
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: on now? Per Sam amic of the athletic Jalen Duran
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: plans to explore sign and trade scenarios after contract negotiations
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: have stalled out with the Pistons. There's a large enough
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: gap in value from Duran's camp in Detroit where he
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: feels it's now best to move on. Well, there so
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a guy that often gets linked to the Hornets because
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: they didn't get him in the draft, but we did
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: well what I mean? And then of course that would
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you think, Oh, Piston's miles bridges are always tied together.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: There is there something here I would where maybe Jalen
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Duran's and named the monitor here.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: Now, wow, that's really surprising just in terms of what
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: they accomplished last year. Wouldn't it just be the funniest
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: thing in the entire world to watch him in musa
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: diabase playing a front court together after what happened last year.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That's a good call. I didn't even think about that angle.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, ultimately, I don't think that's gonna happen,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: just because we went from seventy two hours ago. It
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: feels like being like, oh, what are they going to
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: do in this front court? They gotta take it big?
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe two and now We're on the complete opposite side
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: of the spectrum, and I think their front court is
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: a little bit crowded right now now that nas Reed
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: is supposed to be here, given that that's not one
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: hundred percent ofpecial yet that's what we're expecting, and I
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: think it'd be a little bit clunky to sign Durham.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: But at the same time a good player, he's incredible.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: That gives you something that they don't have right now.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Level of physicality that clearly Musa, despite how strong you
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: struggled to match up with sometimes so as much as
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I'm saying the front court being overcrowded as something you
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: have to consider, Duran is also the caliber of player
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: that you at least have to make that call and
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: see what they're asking for in terms of a sign
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: and trade that you.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Have to least make all you saw you move. I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: love Musa, but Duran's an all star big That's just
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: another level I believe above.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Multiple people think the fight means there's no way could
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: come here, although the right amount of money, yeah, right
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: amount of money might heal those wounds.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Musa fought Mack before I came in the next day.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Musa just because of the money.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: You're making a million game, okay, so oh and like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: as you're sitting here, you're making sense, right, But some fans,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you know a lot of us like the patient stuff.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, dude, we hadn't been the playoffs in a decade,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Like the patients for fans is harder than a new
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: ownership group in new front office that just got here. Right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: But even if it's the right who So a lot
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: of fans are lashing out back at you. And the
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: one thing they're saying is we only got one actual
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: first round pick. The other three are swaps. They have
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: a problem with what we got back. What do you
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: think about the package of what we got back?
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: The package was the thing that frustrated me the most
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: at first two. I mean, they're not wrong for being
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: frustrated about the first round pick, but I think more
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: than anything, that tells you what Minnesota thought about the
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: risk they were taking and you know, getting LaMelo ball
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: in return. As excited as they were about it, as
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: long as they said it was pursued, the reason that
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: pursuit it took as long as it did, seemingly is
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: because they were in far disagreeance. And what's the valuation
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: on Charlottean and what Minnesota then was for LaMelo Ball,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: and despite the fact that we didn't like it, it
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: ended up somewhere, you know, less than most of us expected.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: But I will wax poetic about LaMelo for a second
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: because I think for the fans, you know, we're so
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: used to seeing somebody like Kimba and honoring somebody like
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Kimba despite the fact that he never got to win
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: a playoff series, and we love it time that he
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: gave us. But LaMelo had the chance to become that
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: and that's I think why everybody's so upset, honestly, you
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like for a kid like LaMelo Ball,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: who's from California, was the number one recruit coming out
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: of high school, had every reason, by every metric to
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: never stay in this city based on what Mitch Cupchack
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: god knows told us a bunch of times. You know
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: that that big stars don't love to be in this city.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: LaMelo Ball was sure, sure enough, was one of those
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: guys loved being here, loved this place. And from that end,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: I hate that he didn't get to see out the
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: end of this train and make it right and make
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: it whole Lefty, and I think more than anything, that's
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: why fans are upset. But what if the end of
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: that journey only ends in another second round appearance, we
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: don't get to the east that we're looking at, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: LaMelo ball, just like another Baron Davis, the guy who
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: didn't get as far as we hoped he could. And ultimately,
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: I think this move is a move that is for
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: the fans more than it is anything, as much as
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: it doesn't make sense, because I think this front office
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: does not want you guys to be left in the
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: spot where you're where you're excited about getting beaten seven
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: games in a semi final series, because this team and
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: this fan base deserves more. Frankly, that was well, I
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: like that man.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I think you I don't know. I think you calmed
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: some fans down. I do think some fans are triggered
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: because they don't want to be patient. But great stuff.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I got one guy mad at Jeff Peterson for not
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: taking Durham the first time. He wouldn't even hear for
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: during the first time.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: You can't hold that against against chef Jeff.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: You can't do that. Handle this all, and I'll handle
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: these people during was a hornet for I don't know
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: about thirty two seconds. I don't know how long that
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: one was. Owen Watterson s I Hornets on SI. Also
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: has his Hornet's history at Hornet's History on Twitter slash
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: actually check that out too if you love history the
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: hornets and at Owen Watterson on Twitter.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you brother, appreciate it, man, thank you for having
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: me again.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Man anytime?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: All right, there you go.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: That' to Owen Watterson, he's such a level headed young
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: man that takes the emotion out of it. And I'm
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a fifty two year old old man that is sitting
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: here screaming about everything. How does he do it at
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: such a young age.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That's also his third spot in about two weeks, because
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: we had him on when you were gone. He's at
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the point now when you go three and two weeks,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get tired of him. So you think there's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: always there's always a limit when you say, okay, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: didn't realize one appearance meant they never stopped calling me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: We got a lot going on, man, We got a
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: lot of things to talk about it. He generated a
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: ton of texts too. The big pain, says Owen this
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: spot on and then another dude says, so he's telling
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: us we're two years away.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I think I've been hearing that for ten years. Yippie.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: It's just Jeff, I think you've had two years away
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: from being like like what, Yeah, they were two years
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: away from being two years away? I think is what
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: we are, Jeff Peterson. It's also Fitty Street.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: He's only playing the long game, and we as fans
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: after that second half, we're not thinking long game, you know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: with what we've been through. So it's just there's I
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: think it took Stone's bone for them to make this move,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Like I think it took guts. They knew there would
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: be backlash, they knew it, they knew what they were
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: coming off. They knew they had the fans in the
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: palm of their hand after last year, and they're not
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: thinking about, hey, how do we make sure the fans
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: keep loving us and keep this momentum. They're trying to
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: do long term what's best. I respect that in a way,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: even if short term.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn it. You know, that's why there has
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to be more on the table because they know they're
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: going to take a hit here, but we have to
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: wait to see what the end result is of all this,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: and we're just simply that's not there yet. Fitty. We
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: think that your streak is two years away from being
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: two years over. You think about that, probably right? What's
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it at right now?
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: Fit?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Four years, two months, eighteen days, ten hours, nine minutes
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and twenty seven seconds. Hold on, ten hours, nine minutes
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: and twenty seven seconds. So that means okay, nine o'clock
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: at night or so? All right, I say you, Fit,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: don I see it?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: There are a new episode of one Order apparently when
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: we come back. Random crap. You hat another crazy Diana
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Rusidi story, Mac ex men with fast food, Oh yeah baby,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and one of us has a tweet that blew up
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: yesterday for some reason. Sports Radio ninety two seven.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Random crap, random crap, Mac and Bone talk, random crap,
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: random crap, random crap, Mac and Bone talk, random crap, random,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: random crap, random crap, random crap, What the deuce?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Fuck crap, Oh crap, We stink like a baby's blowout
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: infested diaper.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: They talk about crap that is random. It's the Queen
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: City's favorite morning tandem.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Mac and Bone, Random crap, Mac and Bone. All right,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: let's have it. We'll still at random crap.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: We have not done it all week, man, We've had
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: draft stuff going on right into the Lamello stuff, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: obviously this show is still overwhelmingly Lamello talk. Where the
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Hornets go from here? Who will they use the trade
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: exception for all that stuff? Is it the most surprising
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: trade in Charlotte history? I know some of the boys
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: yesterday were talking about a KB something. Maybe we should
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: kick around two, but let's take a little time for
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: random crap. We will also take some time at eight
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: forty five next hour talk about the US men's soccer team.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Does last night's lost in the final minute mean anything
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: at all with all the changes?
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it, but let's do a little random crap.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: So Bone, I did a little fast food experimentation in
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: San Antonio my vacation.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: You loose a little bit. You would never do that
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: at home.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: It's just I had access to do places that I
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: don't have access to here. So the first one was
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: raising canes. Right, it gets a lot of hype New
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Orleans based chicken tender joint.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: So one in rock Hill I believe opened up someone
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: till Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: You've got amazing knowledge of where these places are little
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: well well fitty.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: You know why we know that, right, because Willie P's area,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: so he's informed us a lot of.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I don't know how y'all out there feel
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: feel free to chime in on this about Raising Canes,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: it kind of tasted like all the other chicken tender
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: places to me, really like, I just I don't see
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: a huge difference between slim chickens, raising cassies, Zaxby's. Any
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: place where you get the tender that's different is obviously Bojangles,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: you know, because of the supremes and the spice, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: maybe Popeye's a little bit spicy too.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I think Raising Canes is known for their uh, their
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: dipping sauces as well. I'm glad you brought that up. Okay,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that cane sauce was special. There wasn't. I was dipping everything,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and that is a good point.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: It would have been an unfair evaluation if I didn't
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: say that their fries were so so, but in that
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: dipping sauce they were absurd. I think that's what I
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: think that might be what the separator is. Yeah, without
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: the sauce, it was just that's a good point.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: That that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that because I have already. How
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: did I forget that sauce? I was like, when people talking,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: it usually involves something with the sauces. Yeah, it's good.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Chicken was just like all right, fries were all right,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: But that sauce is special. You think the sauce boss
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: has had it before.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: He definitely has. Okay, okay, as a matter of fact,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: he probably just heard it and they'll text right now now.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: You want to know what I thought was special? What
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: is what a burger? We had what a Burger for
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the first time. It's based in San Antonio, so they're
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: at every corner. We have one in moors Well that
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: opened up in the past year. Go bone notes where
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: they are in the area, well.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Such thirty seconds from it. Yeah, that makes sense. But
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I did not get a burger, so I took a
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: little heat for that bone. I got this chicken sandwich
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: that has pimeno cheese. I'm still mad they took that
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: away at Bojangles. Pimento cheese and hot honey on top.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: It's called the what a Chicken Rising? Unbelievable.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: And the fries what a time? The fries or should
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I say the whatter fries.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: They taste almost just like McDonald's fries, which are my
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: favorite fries in the world. The fries are amazing, man,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: So I don't know what everybody's experiences are. I didn't
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: get a burger, so I can't fully evaluate the what
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: a Burger's one thing.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I can't believe mac I'm saying this, but I'm intrigued
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: by because you know, on the uh when you have
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a Roku device, sometimes ads will pop up in the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: background and you're like, oh, what is that. The last
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: couple of days, hertiase has had an ad up there.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Now hear me out. It's for the hot Honey chicken biscuit.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not normally gravitate towards heart ease, but at least
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: in the ad that I see it pops up all
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the time, I'm thinking, Man, a hot honey chicken biscuit.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: That sounds pretty good. Honey's good. You should try this one.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: And what a burden?
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: There goes my Friday and Saturday. Hot honey is amazing,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: sweet and hot together fit you know it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: He's a honey guy. Hot honey wings, dude, it's my
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: it's my go to UH wing sauce. Now, whenever I
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: go something, it's.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: So good, man sauce boss is saying, Mac, it is
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: the sauce bone is right. Another texter talking to the
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: sauce bass here. Of course, of course I should have known.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Another text brings up a great point. How did I
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: forget this? What has this spicy mustard? I don't really
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: spicy ketchup? I don't even really like my fries and ketchup.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I do like my hop dog could ketchup, so go
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: ahead and at me, But I don't even really use
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: ketchup for my fries anymore.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: What a burger has a spicy ketchup bone? It's a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: game changer. Did y'all get the melts from waterburger at
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: or anyone get a melt? I've only had. They might have.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, really good, I've only had the burger
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: so far. Willie pe waves in, it's all about the
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: sauce that raisin cakes we said. You're just trying to
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: reemphasize that. No, I'm actually reading the text Wine to
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: see what people are saying about your topic.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: He's not mad at you, by the way. Why is
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: he mad?
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Why did you go to waterburger and get chicken. I
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: know that's what my family was saying. But I'm telling you, dude,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: that's next level hot honey and pimento on chicken. Like
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I'm a pimento stand. Dude, if you got pimento on
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: a sandwich, I'm eating it. Really Yeah, I absolutely love them.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: That sounds like it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: You love melt and pimento cheese and you can dip
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: like you know, chips in there in there. You know
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: that sounds like a Texter named Pimento. Stand both boats fighting, Pameno.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Stand right now about Jason Williams. All right, we got
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: to let you we have people rave it about that
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: waterberg and catch up. All right, we got to play
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: this Diana Rassini clip. So this long form article done
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: by the New York Times, which is the place that
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Diana Versini used to work at, and it feels like
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: they almost did a hit piece on her while they're
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: in the middle of an investigation off her bone that
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: still isn't completed.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: It's it's kind of odd to me if they did
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: this article.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: But in there it was revealed she was making eight
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars a year and was talking to them
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: about a raise before the whole scandal broke, but also
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: in their Bone, I had never heard this story before,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: but they mentioned in here that the folks in New
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: York Times are not happy when they found out about
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the story that Diana Rassini used her contact with an
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: NFL coach to get out of a ticket. They said
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: that it's not professional of her, and it's probably not,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: but you have to hear this story. So I went
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: and found today Bone. This is with Stu Gotts on
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: his show back in Super Bowl week. Listen to this story.
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: I got pulled over again.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Chimisio really texting driving?
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: I was texting and driving because this coaching cycle is
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: ridiculous and relentless and exhausting, and you can't drive two
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: feet to get a cup of coffee without something happening right,
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: And so the officer pulls me over. I've gotten pulled
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: over twice in a month.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Actually.
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: The first time, Joey was screaming in the back. He
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: opens the window and he goes, you got enough problems
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: go and he let me go because he's felt so
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: bad for the.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Ridiculousness he saw your kid.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: Okay, so the second time, I don't want to say
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: too much of this, but I'm not going to say
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: the team or the coach. Okay, But the police officer
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: pulls up and I said, listen, Sean McDermott just got fired.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: I am breaking. I am in the middle of this
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: right now. I know you don't care as a police officer,
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: but I feel like I need to let you know this.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: And he said, well, I'm not a Bills fan. I'm like, oh,
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: your jet, so this is good news for you?
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Right like?
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: He said no, and so he names the team. I go, oh,
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: I love that team.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I go, do you want touch the coach?
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: You took to the coach? I FaceTime the head coach
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: head coaches in his office. He's like, what's up. I go,
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: I just got pulled over and I just wanted to
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: meet my friend, Officer jout and the head coach played
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: all ins and.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: He's like, how you doing.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: He's like, you should let her go.
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: She's a good citizen, you know.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Officers just like, what is happening right now?
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: Who does that? I was desperate. I was I don't
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: want to get a take. My husband's gonna kill me.
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: Texting and dry. I shouldn't be doing that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I know, that.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I am so proud of you. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: have all the ways to get out of a ticket,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: to get out of a ticket, I wish I had that.
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: Like what a nasty play, but it worked.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: This woman is a piece of work, isn't She's got
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: she's got a coach thing going on here?
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: What how I mean?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does make you wonder if she just call
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: up a coach get out of his speeding ticket. It's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: just how many coaches are you that tight with? I'll
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: tight or are you with other coach? Like? But she
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: just like openly admitting the texting while driving with your
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: kids in the car, multiple times, justifying it by saying
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I had to break news shamelessly telling us that story,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: which sounds absurd, Like she just is, she's she's a
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: little extra.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: She is.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine? Could you imagine doing that here? And
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: are you a Panther fan? I've got Matt Role here
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: on FaceTime? You want to talk to Matt Rule, Hey,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: coach officer, this is officer Joe. Well you know what
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I mean. That's my friend there and she was speeding,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: but you gotta let her go. Oh my god, do
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you know jay z?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I know Jay z if you if she called Matt
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Ruhle to talk to a CMPD Panther fan, she would
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: then get double the charger.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, they probably throw you in jail.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I hate that guy. Get him out of here. Okay,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: if you've seen my book, wait in the Panther. We
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: don't get notes, beeeding other things, other things.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Real quick here on random crap, Pete Prisco has ranked
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: a Panther. Folks, I feel like Holly. I feel like
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: we need to sing Holly Lujah. Derek Brown is ninetieth
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: and it's top one hundred. Brown, no Bryce, nobody else
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: but Derek Brown's on there. We'll talk about that, I'm sure.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: On Monday and the bone Man had a tweet that
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: blew up about LaMelo ball baby congratulations.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: That was huge. Yeah, I don't really know why it happened.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: It was very basic. All I said was Mellow's already
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota. He drove there in thirty minutes, and people
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: liked it. It's got almost nine hundred thousand views in
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: forty five thousand whites. So it's a very basic comment
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: that I didn't really think much about. But apparently people
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: like that. But it caused a lot of controversy though.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Mellow Stands were mad at it, and I could see
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: that Carmelo Stands were mad because you because I called
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: him Mellow, So there was a lot going on there.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yet, my god, that is hilarious, by the way, you
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: brought up the best point off the air. If you're
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: trying to find the benefits of the Lamello trade, if
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: you're upset about it, LaMelo's stands are out of our lives.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: You're talking about the second halleluja.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: He Mello stands are out. And also Mello got out
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: before the red light cameras are now back and play,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: so that's a big deal too. Okay, okay, they're back
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: here soon. When we come back here on the Mack
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and Bone Show, what is next for the Hornets, because
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: surely there has to be more moves on the Horizon
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety two seven, Mac Bone Fitty