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Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Hey twenty nine, Here fifty five KRSD talk station. It's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy about it. I don't care what snow's coming,
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  Speaker 1: just happy it's Friday and I'm happy. I'm aloud to
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  Speaker 1: bring back to the fifty five CARC Morning Show at
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  Speaker 1: this time. Jack Windsor, He's editor in chief of the
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  Speaker 1: Hot Press Network, is also host of The Windsor Report.
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  Speaker 1: You can find him on zoom wherever you get your podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome back and Happy Friday to you. Jack. It's
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  Speaker 1: great seeing your face.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. It's an honor to join you and
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  Speaker 2: the discerning listeners of fifty five KRC this morning. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for acknowledging the equality of my listening audience. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a tough the smarter your audience, you know this,
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  Speaker 1: the tougher your job is. And I'm always embarrassed when
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  Speaker 1: I cannot adequately cope with one of the callers questions about, like,
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  Speaker 1: let's say, a case that he wanted to know about.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, I'm lost in the shuffle of
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  Speaker 1: all this information. We know about California, we know about
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota in terms of fraud and what's been revealed so far.
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  Speaker 1: How about how does Ohio compare to those two states,
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  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question, great, great question. So I want
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  Speaker 2: to take you back and then bring you back to
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  Speaker 2: the present. You'll remember Ohio's pandemic era unemployment system experienced
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  Speaker 2: significant failures, resulting in about three point eight billion in
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  Speaker 2: improper payments. Now, further exacerbating Ohio's challenges, You'll remember State
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  Speaker 2: Representative Mike de Villa's twenty twenty five investigation into medicaid
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  Speaker 2: right into the wheelhouse of your caller, revealed preliminary findings
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  Speaker 2: of at least six billion annually flowing without adequate checks,
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  Speaker 2: potentially two ineligible recipients, obviously emphasizing the critical imperative for
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  Speaker 2: rigorous eligibility verification to stem substantial drain on state resources
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  Speaker 2: as well as federal resources that combine with those state
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  Speaker 2: resources in Medicaid. Now flash forward to now twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: Ohio's Department of Children and Youth Programs I found out
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  Speaker 2: last week from a lawmaker from auditor A. Keith Faber,
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  Speaker 2: has identified two million dollars in improper distributions to childcare centers. However,
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  Speaker 2: here's the asterisk Brian, my independent scrutiny in Columbus in
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  Speaker 2: one day alone uncovered what appears to be six and
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  Speaker 2: a half million in questionable payments to entities like Somali
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  Speaker 2: Education Resource Center. With ongoing investigations, in my world, I
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  Speaker 2: think we will reveal additional instances of waste, fraud and
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  Speaker 2: abuse that really will, I think, further compel the legislative process.
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  Speaker 2: There are a couple of bills already drafted that are
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  Speaker 2: in play, and I think that we should start looking
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  Speaker 2: for prosecutorial action. One of the bills would give the
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  Speaker 2: Ohio Attorney General authority to prosecute these cases because one
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  Speaker 2: of the challenges, Brian, is that sometimes local prosecutors are
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  Speaker 2: maybe they're well intended, but they're not prosecuting crimes. So
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  Speaker 2: Ohio has a significant issue. And my big heartburn on
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  Speaker 2: all of it is there appear to be systemic issues.
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  Speaker 2: And when you have a governor sitting in the governor's
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  Speaker 2: chair who says, well, it's just the cost of doing business,
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  Speaker 2: we have a problem. And I think that we're going
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  Speaker 2: to uncover we have a significant, significant systemic issue here
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  Speaker 2: in the Buckeye State.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm a little I guess troubled by the reality
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  Speaker 1: that apparently AG does not have the authority to go
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  Speaker 1: after these And you know, you may be delicate and
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  Speaker 1: with your wording on local prosecutors and their desires to
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  Speaker 1: go after fraud, waste and abuse in and among the
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  Speaker 1: illegal immigrant community or anywhere else for that matter. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: there are very politically active left wing prosecutors who wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: touch it with a ten foot poll for political reasons.
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  Speaker 1: So we can't count on our own criminal justice system
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  Speaker 1: to look out for Republican Democrat, communist socialists whoever's paying
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  Speaker 1: taxes dollars. This transcends politics, Jack Winsor. This is not
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  Speaker 1: about politics. It's about fraud, waste and abuse.
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  Speaker 2: It is about fraud, waste and abuse. And it is
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  Speaker 2: an absolute crying shame when you have aiders and a
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  Speaker 2: betters who are pretending to be judges and prosecutors that
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  Speaker 2: seem to be cut in on the deals. Right. That's
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  Speaker 2: why I always say elections matter, elections matter, elections matter.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and then they go out and the end of this,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a child, a petulant child holding his ears
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  Speaker 1: and putting his hands over is a you know, closing
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  Speaker 1: his eyes and going l I don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear it. It happened on your watch. The buck stops
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  Speaker 1: at your desk. Governor, whoever that's our money, do something
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  Speaker 1: about it. You mentioned this one giving the attorney general
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  Speaker 1: authority to do these prosecutions. That's great. Again, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize we even need to go through this step. But
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  Speaker 1: what are the other bills that are being discussed and
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  Speaker 1: who would possibly be against them?
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  Speaker 2: Jack, Great, great question. Well, there is a bill from
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  Speaker 2: Phil Plummer from the Dayton area, and his bill has
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  Speaker 2: the prosecutorial power going over to the attorney general, but
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  Speaker 2: also state Lawmaker Josh Williams up there in the Toledo area, who,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is also running for Congress in District nine.
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  Speaker 2: If he wins the Republican nomination, he will square off
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  Speaker 2: against fixture in DC, Marcy Captor, who's been a Democrat
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  Speaker 2: lawmaker as long as I've been alive, it seems, But
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  Speaker 2: I digress. William's bill actually is one that would require
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  Speaker 2: as well real time the cameras in these daycare centers. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there are people who have a penchant for privacy, who
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  Speaker 2: are saying, wait a minute, that might be over the line.
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  Speaker 2: And what Williams is saying. He was on my show
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  Speaker 2: earlier this week he said, well, look, we already do
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  Speaker 2: this in places like the YMCA. As long as we
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  Speaker 2: have proper guardrails, we should be able to see into
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  Speaker 2: those daycare centers to make sure. Oh here's a great idea,
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  Speaker 2: there are actually students in those daycare centers if they
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  Speaker 2: are receiving public funds. And so it appears that both
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  Speaker 2: of those bills have Republican support, although I would guess
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  Speaker 2: that Josh Williams bill might get some pushback because there
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  Speaker 2: are people who go, oh, what do you go, what
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  Speaker 2: kind of images are you going to take of Johnny?
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  Speaker 2: And how do I know that somebody's not going to
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  Speaker 2: misuse them? And I remind people we do have to
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  Speaker 2: put safeguards in place. But this thing is as old
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  Speaker 2: as time. Brian. There's a proverb that says the borrower
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  Speaker 2: is servant to the lender when you take tax dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Guess what you are servant to the people who give
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  Speaker 2: you those tax dollars. And you ought to expect that
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  Speaker 2: there is proper oversight to make sure that the dollars
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  Speaker 2: are being used for the things that you promised they
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  Speaker 2: would be used for.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've kind of advocated that in the past for
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  Speaker 1: public school class rooms for parents only. Not evil perverts
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  Speaker 1: out there who might want to just voyeuristically watch children,
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  Speaker 1: but for parents to have, you know, secure access so
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  Speaker 1: they can at least hear what their children are being
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  Speaker 1: taught in classroom. Right, what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 2: It kind of makes sense, doesn't it. Yes. But here's
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  Speaker 2: the other thing. There are some independents, there are some
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  Speaker 2: people who are on the conservative right who would go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is a surveillance state. This is a surveillance state.
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  Speaker 2: I remind them that when you carry this thing around,
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  Speaker 2: you can't see me on the video I'm holding up
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  Speaker 2: my smartphone. Guess what, You're already being surveilled. Say something
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  Speaker 2: today and just watch if the product that you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: doesn't show up on your Facebook or x feed, we're
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  Speaker 2: already being surveilled.
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  Speaker 1: We are. And that's something I've had to come to
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  Speaker 1: grips with myself, because I probably would have been in
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  Speaker 1: the camp about no surveillance date because I call myself
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  Speaker 1: a little ill libertarian and I don't like state, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or welly in action. But we're talking about children here
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  Speaker 1: in the case of the schools, many cases these centers
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about, whether they're leering or learning, there are
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  Speaker 1: young people. They need to have constant attention by parents
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  Speaker 1: who really, really truly care. Pivoting over. It's our taxpayer
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  Speaker 1: money that that is even open as a place to
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  Speaker 1: send children. There's another reason for us to know whether
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  Speaker 1: there's anything even going on in the building. Not a
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  Speaker 1: very big road to ho there, Jack wins And will
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  Speaker 1: bring it back. Go to the Ohiopress network dot com
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  Speaker 1: book market. You'll be glad you did more with Jack
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  Speaker 1: Windsor coming up stick.
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  Speaker 2: Around fifty five KRC, fifty five KRC the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, forty one fifty five KRCD talk station. I always
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  Speaker 1: enjoy having Jack Windsor on the show, and we got
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  Speaker 1: a brack right now through the close of the show.
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  Speaker 1: A couple more segments with Jack. You can find them
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  Speaker 1: online the Ohio pressnetwork dot com and also find his
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  Speaker 1: podcast or his his zoom thing going on at the
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  Speaker 1: Windsor Report. I think we missed well. I did a
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  Speaker 1: real quick search. Jack Winsor, talking about you mentioned the
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  Speaker 1: six billion dollars in medicaid fraud here in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio alone. I just looked up how much Ohio
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  Speaker 1: collection property taxes. Obviously a real problem for ohioan's property taxes,
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying to do legislative fixes. We know that
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  Speaker 1: they're on it. We think there's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: petition now to maybe put a eradication of Ohio property
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  Speaker 1: taxes on the in the constitution. Chaos kind of thing,
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  Speaker 1: it will ensue, at least we learned that from our
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  Speaker 1: elected officials. But twenty twenty two calendar year nineteen and
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  Speaker 1: a half billion collected six billion dollars just in medicaid
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  Speaker 1: fraud that you mentioned in the last segment, that's twenty
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  Speaker 1: five percent of the entire property tax and that's just
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  Speaker 1: one program. I mean, if they will, if they went
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  Speaker 1: out and ferreted out all the fraud, wasted abuse, or
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  Speaker 1: at least did a great job at cracking down, let's
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  Speaker 1: say they got ninety percent of what's currently being stolen,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like that would go a long way to
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  Speaker 1: solving our property tax problem.
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  Speaker 2: Jack right. I mean, one of the things I really appreciate,
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  Speaker 2: appreciate about State Representative Mike Tavilla, who is the guy
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  Speaker 2: who did the deep dive into Ohio Medicaid, and by
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  Speaker 2: the way, the auditor is still looking into that. More
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  Speaker 2: reports will come out. But he is also the guy
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  Speaker 2: who has introduced this zero based budget idea, saying that
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  Speaker 2: every decade we go back to zero. And if you're
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  Speaker 2: a state agency, you have to prove one that you
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  Speaker 2: should exist and two you have to account for why
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  Speaker 2: you need every penny that the General Assembly would hand
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  Speaker 2: over to you. I think that's the type of rigor
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  Speaker 2: that we need in the system, because again, you have
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  Speaker 2: a governor and maybe even a Republican party that for
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  Speaker 2: decades has gone, wow, that's just kind of the cost
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  Speaker 2: of doing business hogwash, because if you can collect, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like Jesus using, you know, five loaves
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  Speaker 2: and two fish to feed everybody, right, Imagine if we
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  Speaker 2: just picked up the crumbs once in a while, we'd
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  Speaker 2: have enough twelve baskets to go feed everybody. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to stop treating taxpayer dollars as if they
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  Speaker 2: don't matter, because at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: They do, absolutely do. And again, I view this as
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  Speaker 1: totally non partisan, totally non partisan, you know, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: just pivot work because I do it all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but I need the opportunity to get it out of
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  Speaker 1: my someone and think about it. I viewed school choice
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  Speaker 1: as totally nonpartisan. I don't care if you're in a
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  Speaker 1: commed house. Why wouldn't you want an opportunity to send
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  Speaker 1: your kids to wherever the hell you want?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Wait, what is political about that? The only people it
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  Speaker 1: might harm are the teachers' union because it's going to
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  Speaker 1: force them to learn how to compete with the higher
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  Speaker 1: performing schools that they're competing with. For a change, God,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Now, let me peeve everybody off by saying
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  Speaker 2: what I'm about to say. I just am amazed. I'm
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  Speaker 2: in awe at how often progressives stumble out of the gate.
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  Speaker 2: I always think about a racehorse track, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: horses come out of the shoot. These guys trip like
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  Speaker 2: the first two steps. Let me give you an example.
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  Speaker 2: They're all about choice. Man, If they want an abortion,
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  Speaker 2: it's my body, my choice. But when it was COVID,
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  Speaker 2: it was your body and my choice that you need
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  Speaker 2: to mask and get a mandated vaccine. And now they're saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's your student it's my choice. I don't think you
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  Speaker 2: should have it. These people are so bast awkwards man,
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  Speaker 2: that's the problem. But yeah, I think we should all
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  Speaker 2: love liberty to the point that we actually trust the
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  Speaker 2: adults in the room if they can be adults. And
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if you come from
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  Speaker 2: a commedi house, go look for a COMMI scribe to
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  Speaker 2: send your kid. I should be able to send my
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  Speaker 2: kid to a school that teaches reading, writing, arithmetic.
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  Speaker 1: Classical education is exactly what I would choose for my
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  Speaker 1: children if we do it all over again, although fortunately
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  Speaker 1: I got them through the public schools before they went
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  Speaker 1: full on far left, woke bent. We can continue our
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Jack Windsor. The Ohio Teachers Union apparently has
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  Speaker 1: made a stance on ice continuing an education theme. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: he interviewed VVK Ramaswaman the other day and I have
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  Speaker 1: done that as well. Great guy. Next governor of the
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  Speaker 1: state of Ohio will find out what Jack learned from
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  Speaker 1: the VAC After these brief words, don't go away. Eight
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  Speaker 1: fifty five Casey de Talk Station, Thank you, jose Jreker,
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  Speaker 1: Little Dead Kennedy's there on the show on some fun
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  Speaker 1: bumper music, and thank you Jack Windsor for agreeing to
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  Speaker 1: peer back on the fifty five Percsey Morning Show. We'll
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  Speaker 1: enjoy our conversations. I'll encourage my listeners to bookmark and
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  Speaker 1: regularly check it out the Ohio Press Network, where you
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  Speaker 1: find Jack and those working hard to bring these matters
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  Speaker 1: to our attention and to course speak truth to power.
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  Speaker 1: Pivoting over to the Teachers Union itself, I guess pardon
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  Speaker 1: me wants to understand why they would even take a
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  Speaker 1: stance on ice given that they're supposed to be educators.
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  Speaker 1: But they did, I suppose, Jack Windsor, what's the story
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  Speaker 1: here with the Ohio Teachers Union.
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  Speaker 2: The Ohio Education Association represents about one hundred thousand educators,
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  Speaker 2: and they've issued some directives opposing ICE enforcement as it
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  Speaker 2: would relate to resisting warrants if they're not signed by judges,
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  Speaker 2: so administrative warrants and to refer federal agents to administrators. Now,
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  Speaker 2: to be real, Frank, that all makes sense legally and logistically. However,
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  Speaker 2: where the OEA went off the proverbial cliff was when
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  Speaker 2: their president, Jeff Wensingh said OEA opposes ICE enforcement in
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  Speaker 2: or near schools that's the first red flag. And then
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  Speaker 2: he framed schools as so called safe zones. So what
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  Speaker 2: he's saying without saying it is ICE makes the schools unsafe.
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  Speaker 2: And then the third thing that he said was, well, look,
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  Speaker 2: we prize the opportunity to educate all kids, and the
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  Speaker 2: people who support that go, well, he's just following the
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  Speaker 2: letter of the law and giving resources. And there are
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  Speaker 2: some school districts Columbus Hilliard have condemned ICE activities, citing
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  Speaker 2: fear among immigrant communities and vowing to protect all students.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the issue. Far from fostering unity, this resistance
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  Speaker 2: to me erodes the foundational principle of law and order,
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  Speaker 2: which is what we should be reflecting in our schools
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  Speaker 2: and that schools should instill in every student. And it's
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  Speaker 2: prioritizing the accommodation of illegal immigration over accountability and citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the bottom line. We have unlimited ones and
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  Speaker 2: limited resources, So you have a certain amount of time
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  Speaker 2: and a certain amount of money, and that time and
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  Speaker 2: that money ought to be devoted to the students who
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  Speaker 2: are there legally. That's one of the challenges that many
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  Speaker 2: people have with this. And by the way, the same
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  Speaker 2: people who are clamoring and want the people who are
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  Speaker 2: there illegally to be educated are also the people that
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  Speaker 2: will tell you there aren't enough funds in our school system.
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  Speaker 1: You know, maybe going back to fraud, waste and abuse, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: we got like six billion dollars we could round up
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  Speaker 1: for medicaid. Hey, why not use that or whatever? Considering
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  Speaker 1: your point a very valid one finite amount of dollars
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  Speaker 1: and an infant number of needs and demands on government
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  Speaker 1: to use that money for all, right, this sounds to me, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: if I was in front of a classroom, if I
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  Speaker 1: was an educator, this topic sounds like a wonderful Civics
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  Speaker 1: lesson opportunity. You can explain the concept of federal laws
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  Speaker 1: and federal supremacy. You can talk about the concept of
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  Speaker 1: the laws that are on the books regarding who is
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  Speaker 1: lawfully in our country and who is not. Now, then
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  Speaker 1: you subset and say we can have a disagreement on
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  Speaker 1: the state of the law. We could argue about whether
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  Speaker 1: that's a good law or a bad law, and we
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  Speaker 1: can make decisions in a democratic society representative form of government,
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  Speaker 1: of course, giving an opportunity to talk about that to
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  Speaker 1: elect people who will either abide by that because we
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  Speaker 1: like it or change it because we This is how
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  Speaker 1: it works. Though the FEDS are allowed to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I am maybe personally against it, but it is lawful.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great civics lesson.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it would be a great you should teach that.
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  Speaker 2: You should go teach that, because at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, that's what I've been screaming for weeks. You
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  Speaker 2: have the legislative branch that makes laws, the executive branch
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  Speaker 2: that enforces laws, and the judicial branch that handles the squabbles.
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  Speaker 2: These guys, these agents are actually going out and enforcing
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  Speaker 2: the law. That's their constitutional prerogative that these are laws
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  Speaker 2: that have been enacted by Congress. And so we can
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  Speaker 2: squabble over a warrant signed by a judge versus a
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  Speaker 2: warrant signed by an administrator. But at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, even the courts have said, if it is
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  Speaker 2: a you know, final pickup, they have the authority, even
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  Speaker 2: with an administrative warrant, to go in and do that.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going to remind people, Brian, I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: I was going to go down this alley, but I will.
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  Speaker 2: The number one issue when we talk about the bad
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  Speaker 2: people being here are gang members, right, yeah? MS thirteen
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  Speaker 2: trendy Arragua. Well guess what the wheelhouse for those gang
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  Speaker 2: members ages fifteen to twenty three? And I will remind
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  Speaker 2: you we picked up a twenty three year old gang
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  Speaker 2: member in Perry'sburg, Ohio who was posing as a sixteen
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  Speaker 2: year old student in the school. So to pretend like
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  Speaker 2: we're going after innocent children is not the full story.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes there are gang members in the school, and shame
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  Speaker 2: on the schools for not doing their due diligence to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that the student enrolled is the actual student.
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  Speaker 1: Jeez, Louized you know here, I was thinking maybe they
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  Speaker 1: were just going into schools to get educators who are
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  Speaker 1: unlawfully in our country who may have been convicted of
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  Speaker 1: child molestation or something. You got adults going to your
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  Speaker 1: high school. Isn't that something political stripe, regardless that you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to have happening. I would think most people
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: logically and reasonably would say yeah, But we don't live
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: in a logical and reasonable time, Jack windsor pivoting over
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the man. I have been impressed by vvik Ramasome ever
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: since I interviewed him. At his book Woke Incorporated. Brilliant
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Manny is demonstrably successful, proven businessman, has solutions, has answers,
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  Speaker 1: knows how business works, knows where the problems are that
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  Speaker 1: we all face, the struggles with the regulatory structure, et cetera,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: et cetera. So not a proven political candidate, but a proven,
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  Speaker 1: demonstrably competent man who can manage conversation too. Boy, he
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: is brilliant when it comes to conversation. Jack, you interviewed
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: him the other day. What was your takeaway?
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  Speaker 2: My takeaway, There's an old proverb that comes to mind.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Where there is no vision, the people will perish. And
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: vivek Ramaswami has a vision. He has a vision for
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: bold change and many people are attracted to that vision.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: One of the things we talked about in the interview
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  Speaker 2: yesterday is his gubernatorial fundraising records nine point eight million
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  Speaker 2: in the second half of twenty twenty five, pushing the
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: total for the year to nearly twenty million dollars heading
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  Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six. That is a boatload of money.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: And then to your point about him being a political outsider,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I asked him, why did you choose Senate President Rob
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: McCully as your running mate, and he said Senate President
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  Speaker 2: McCully is a strong leader who's well respected by the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: members of the General Assembly Ohio, and not only brings
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: geographical balance, but he has the ability to go to
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  Speaker 2: lawmakers and make the changes on the lawbooks that we'll
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: need so that we're not just implementing changes by executive order.
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  Speaker 1: And last time I talked to it's kind of funny
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  Speaker 1: you brought that element of Jack is because I said,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: so he knows the sausage making process, right, Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I've been outsider. He's been through this whole time.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: He's a well oiled machine to get the stuff run through.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: It'll be a great one two punch, and I embrace
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: him for that, Jack Windsor keep up the great work, man.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I check out your site all the time for my listeners.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Again the Ohio Press Network, Joe Strek will put dot com.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Joe Strek will put a link up to that on
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: my blog page fifty five cars dot com, along with
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a link to this conversation.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Jack.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I welcome the opportunity to have you back on the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: fifty five Carsite morning show. So have a great week,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Be safe out there, try to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: stay off the road, stay warm, and we will talk
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: very soon.