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6-24-26 Hour 2 - A 1-year NBA coaching contract?/Nuggets flip #26 for draft picks/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: All right, so this deal that was given by the
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  Speaker 2: new Blazers owner to Mike and Noring a one year
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  Speaker 2: deal with two team options in the successive seasons after that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's one year deal for him. Now the payout
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  Speaker 2: is dependent on the team's success, and part of me thinks, like,
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  Speaker 2: that's a pretty cool idea.
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  Speaker 3: Not all the payout, you get a blanket number and
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  Speaker 3: then incentives on top of that.
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  Speaker 2: Part of me thinks, cool idea sliding scale depending on
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  Speaker 2: success or failure feels like a you know, commission at
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  Speaker 2: a sales job, We'll say, but for the sport that
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  Speaker 2: is notorious for if we stink, really really stink, and
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  Speaker 2: we want to stink, we're gonna stink more than anybody's
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  Speaker 2: ever stunk before. Well, what happens when the coach wants
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  Speaker 2: to win because he wants money.
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  Speaker 3: Or what happens when the player just doesn't want to play?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Then what Yeah, that's a I don't deny that, that's
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  Speaker 3: a that's a gamble. That's a gamble that a coach
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  Speaker 3: has to take because there's some certain security in having
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  Speaker 3: a blanket contract and you work to that contract no
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  Speaker 3: matter what. But when it's an incentive leading contract, the
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  Speaker 3: coach is gonna care a whole lot more than the
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  Speaker 3: player may.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I also think it was very interesting what Chris
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  Speaker 4: Finch had to say about it, because there's no way
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  Speaker 4: that other NBA head coaches look at this and go
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  Speaker 4: that's a that's a smart thing to do, because they
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  Speaker 4: all want security, you know, they want this is unique.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm sure he wanted the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to be a head coach. Yeah, and it means
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  Speaker 4: a one year deal with you know, two additional options
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  Speaker 4: by the team, then you probably take it because if
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  Speaker 4: you get fired, where are you? Where are you? Well,
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  Speaker 4: you're right back to where you were an assistant coach
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  Speaker 4: in somebody else's organization. Right, So there really is not
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot for Mike and Norrey to lose, to
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  Speaker 4: be honest with you, to take this shot and for
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  Speaker 4: Dunded to take this gamble on him. Now, what you
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  Speaker 4: would hope if you're Mike and Nory is that should
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  Speaker 4: you know the team want to tank, and so on
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  Speaker 4: and so forth. You have an understanding GM and owner
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  Speaker 4: that this is the direction we're going, and the ghost
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  Speaker 4: of of pat Riley himself could not get this team
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  Speaker 4: to win basketball games.
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  Speaker 2: Question is this if you're Mike and Nory. If you are,
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  Speaker 2: I say this, if you are confident that you're good
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  Speaker 2: enough that one day you will be an NBA head coach,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they take this deal. It's not to
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  Speaker 2: say that he's not confident he would be an NBAD
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  Speaker 2: coach one day, but you aren't offering this like Dusty
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  Speaker 2: May's not taking that right. Dusty May would be like
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  Speaker 2: all State missions. But he's done of your little tryout listening.
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  Speaker 4: Michaen. Nory's also fifty two. I get it. I mean
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  Speaker 4: he's been around a long time. He's never had this
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  Speaker 4: opportunity before.
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  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is this is not to say whether
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  Speaker 2: he will be good or bad. But if the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: went to Sean Payton said, how's a one year tryout contract?
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  Speaker 2: Sound he's there's no chances, of.
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  Speaker 4: Course, but he's a super Bowl champion.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends who you are, where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 3: The pushback I have on this maybe this is maybe
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  Speaker 3: this is a new frontier where more more teams will
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  Speaker 3: start employing this tactic. And the reason they bring it up.
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  Speaker 3: It depends who you are, It depends how hungry you are,
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  Speaker 3: and it depends what you think is fair. I know
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  Speaker 3: Mikey michah Nory personally. I know he wants to be
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  Speaker 3: a head coach in this league, and I know he's
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  Speaker 3: been hass to over several jobs. Yeah, so he's at
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  Speaker 3: that point in his career is like, Okay, take a
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  Speaker 3: step no matter what, and if it doesn't work out,
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  Speaker 3: he'll have an assistant coach's position waiting for him instantly.
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  Speaker 4: One thousand percent.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean unqualified or did you guys, did you watch
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  Speaker 2: the movie Pursuit of Happiness. Yes, remember when he takes
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  Speaker 2: the internship not knowing it's an unpaid internship. But he's
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  Speaker 2: just like, dude, I guess I'm just gonna work here
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  Speaker 2: and prove that I'm worthy of it. It feels a
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  Speaker 2: lot like that, like I'm gonna take this job. You'll
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  Speaker 2: pay me for a year, and I'll prove to you
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  Speaker 2: I'm the right guy for the job.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I guess there's a lot of backlash because the owners
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  Speaker 3: considered cheap and and and that's fine, I get it,
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  Speaker 3: But that owner just want a Stanley Cup and that
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  Speaker 3: team that won the Cup is consistently a really good team.
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  Speaker 4: But okay, then let me let me counterpoint. Sure, Rod
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  Speaker 4: Brenda Moore has been the coach year after year after
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  Speaker 4: year after year after a year and they finally won.
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  Speaker 4: There's something to be said Jeff Lagwald when you talk
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  Speaker 4: to him about football, but it applies to any sport.
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  Speaker 4: Continuity can make a big difference. And if you have
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  Speaker 4: players who don't know if their coaches out the door
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  Speaker 4: or not, how kind of continuity can you have with
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  Speaker 4: the team. Well, I'll tell.
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  Speaker 2: You this much motion one sign that would point to
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  Speaker 2: cheap How often do you see this coach has job
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  Speaker 2: in league, he has a head coaching job, and he
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  Speaker 2: leaves to take a head coaching job elsewhere. He was
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  Speaker 2: not fired, he left voluntarily. That's Thiago Splitter. He had
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  Speaker 2: the job in Portland and he goes, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what's going on here. I'm going to Chicago though, see it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, you don't know that. Maybe he was told
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  Speaker 3: he's not getting the job so he left, or perhaps
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  Speaker 3: but because ownership changed while he had the job. True,
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  Speaker 3: so get another you owner came in and said, you're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna be my head coach.
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  Speaker 2: It's rare to see it, though, that somebody had a
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  Speaker 2: job and then leaves and gets the job immediately somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: I meaner.
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  Speaker 3: The reason I bring it up is, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: talked so much about meritocracy and sports and how relegation
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  Speaker 3: is a great concept. The concept of relegation. If you
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  Speaker 3: don't survive and you don't do enough to win, you
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  Speaker 3: are relegated to the next level. The PGA Tournament has relegation.
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  Speaker 3: Now this went understated yesterday and I can't believe we
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  Speaker 3: didn't talk about it enough. But the Pgaight Tournament announced
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  Speaker 3: yesterday that they're gonna have two fields, the competitive field
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  Speaker 3: with all the studs, and the challengers field, and if
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  Speaker 3: you can't compete, you move down to the challengers field.
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  Speaker 3: They have now incorporated relegation to that sport.
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  Speaker 4: Vick I saw that and I read about it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to think how it's going to work, because they
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  Speaker 4: will have mixed fields for some events, like if you.
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  Speaker 3: Win on the Challenger Series, if you win a certain
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  Speaker 3: amount of tournament's a certain amount of money on the
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  Speaker 3: challenger field, you aren't. You graduate to the other one,
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  Speaker 3: to the big boy, and if you finish near the
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  Speaker 3: bottom of the big Boy, you go down.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty simple. Isn't that the corn Ferry Tour?
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  Speaker 3: Corn Fair? I don't even know what happens to the
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  Speaker 3: corn Fairy Tour.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Ay, just go bye bye?
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  Speaker 2: Well, just quickly, can I ask this question? Because I'll
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  Speaker 2: be honest, if my team went out and made a
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  Speaker 2: higher like this, if we had a head coaching vacancy
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  Speaker 2: here in Denver and then they hired a coach and
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  Speaker 2: I found out that it's a one year deal with
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  Speaker 2: two team options, it wouldn't breed confidence as a fan.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't breed security. I mean, just put yourself
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  Speaker 3: in those shoes. Would you take this job if you
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  Speaker 3: were introduced as Okay, your salary is based entirely on
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  Speaker 3: ratings and that's it all right now? You take it?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean it kind of is. But get
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  Speaker 2: your point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, everything every like if if the ratings go down
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  Speaker 3: one week, you make less money that week. Yeah, if
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  Speaker 3: the ratings go up, you make more more.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I said, it's like a sales job that's
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  Speaker 2: based on commission like that, That's that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as how we know, coaching contracts to
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  Speaker 2: operate like most, I think it's a little bit odd
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  Speaker 2: that bennar is on a one year deal right now
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  Speaker 2: with nothing beyond that, because that's even rare. But to
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  Speaker 2: hire a coach and say it's a one year deal,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm a fan, I'm like, so you don't trust
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  Speaker 2: this guy really at all. That's what I would feel
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  Speaker 2: like to.
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  Speaker 3: Me or or prove it. I guarantee there are fans
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  Speaker 3: listening right now who are like, this is great.
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  Speaker 4: I they did this with the players. Prove it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but prove the same time. In professional sports for a
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  Speaker 4: player or one year proven deal is fine. But the
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  Speaker 4: dynamic between players and coaches if the players know the
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  Speaker 4: coach does not have stability and they do. If you've
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  Speaker 4: got a five year deal where the er than ten
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  Speaker 4: million bucks and you got a guy on a one
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  Speaker 4: year tryout going, I need you to play harder and
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  Speaker 4: data dare like, you might not be here next year exactly,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be exactly right. So he just he
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  Speaker 4: creates you're creating a dysfunction you're creating a potential not
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it is, you're creating a potential dysfunction
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  Speaker 4: when you don't have to.
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  Speaker 3: I want to answer you that.
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  Speaker 4: But by the way, I want to talk about your
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  Speaker 4: golf thing because it involves us.
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  Speaker 3: All right, great, we'll get to that because I got
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  Speaker 3: another story I got. This is a pretty big lead
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  Speaker 3: I got on the PGA in Denver. I'll get to
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  Speaker 3: that in a little bit. But back to the incentive
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  Speaker 3: based contracts. You cannot tell me if you're listening to
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  Speaker 3: the show, you aren't watching the game, whatever sport it is,
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  Speaker 3: and you're not thinking to yourself, Man, I wish they
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  Speaker 3: paid these guys based on how they play. I know
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  Speaker 3: you're thinking that, well, that cuts.
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  Speaker 2: That cuts both ways.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, sure it does, of course it does. Of
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  Speaker 3: course it cuts both ways.
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  Speaker 4: I mean if you've got a guy who's I mean,
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  Speaker 4: look at Darren Radish with the Tampa Bay Lightning this year,
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  Speaker 4: the defenseman phenomenal season, best of all time. It's making
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  Speaker 4: nine hundred and seventy five thousand bucks. Yeah, and what
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  Speaker 4: got dealt and they immediately signed him to over eight
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  Speaker 4: million dollars a year. It's the third highest jump in
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  Speaker 4: salary in the history of the league. So what I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to tell you is that, So what are you saying?
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  Speaker 4: You know, if he's if he's playing way above his contract,
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  Speaker 4: you immediately got to pay him more. Well, I mean
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  Speaker 4: the mayle Leafs, the mayple Leafs did the deal and
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  Speaker 4: they gave him.
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  Speaker 2: Over eight per I do remember a certain clip of
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  Speaker 2: Nathan McKennon this year saying something along the lines of,
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  Speaker 2: I bet Parker Kelly regrets signing that contract. Now Parker
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  Speaker 2: Kelly played on hey above the deal that he signed.
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  Speaker 4: Way, let me give you Let me give you example
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  Speaker 4: here though, So do you want to all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden pay him more because he was coming up on
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  Speaker 4: free agency, so they got the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: To do it.
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  Speaker 4: But check it out. He has his best season before
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  Speaker 4: was last year we had six goals thirty one assists
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  Speaker 4: for thirty seven points in seventy three games. This year,
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  Speaker 4: in seventy three games, he had twenty two goals forty
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  Speaker 4: eight assists for seventy points. Okay, And so I mean,
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  Speaker 4: but I get when his contract comes up, he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: get paid. Well, you are you saying? By month by month? Bay? Man,
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  Speaker 4: you're making more bread. Now, you gotta give you more bread.
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  Speaker 2: No, all I was saying is when when Vic brought
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  Speaker 2: up the idea that I'm sure a lot of fans
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  Speaker 2: would want people to be paid what their their game
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  Speaker 2: is at the moment, I go, well, it cuts both ways,
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  Speaker 2: because then you couldn't afford Parker Kelly anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think what you pay for is security.
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  Speaker 3: You're asking for security athlete as a coach. But bottom
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  Speaker 3: line on this Tom Dundan deal, the new owner of
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  Speaker 3: the Blazers, bottom line is when he decided to go
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  Speaker 3: this route and everybody knew about it too, he didn't
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  Speaker 3: make any bones about it. He said, I'm gonna hire coach.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pay him a lot. And the sliding
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  Speaker 3: scale thing, I never knew anything about that till I
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  Speaker 3: read this. But nobody thought he'd work. Like, what coach
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  Speaker 3: are you going to find?
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  Speaker 4: Will?
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  Speaker 3: He found one? And I'm sure there are many more
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  Speaker 3: in line that would do it right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what if it works?
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  Speaker 5: It might.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a hard sell if you really want
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  Speaker 2: to coach, though, if really, because it worked in Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: Brittanmore wasn't on one year deals. Every year.
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  Speaker 3: How do you know.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't on one No, no, no, he.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't one year contract. How do you know he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: on a sliding scale deal like this one. Let me
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  Speaker 3: check it out, same owner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, Vic, if you've identified a coach that
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  Speaker 2: you think is the best for the team, that is
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  Speaker 2: not a small decision to make coach is very very important.
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  Speaker 2: Getting them to buy into the idea that you have
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  Speaker 2: to prove yourself every year. If not, I fire you.
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  Speaker 4: Brindan Moore had the long term contract, then he in
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  Speaker 4: May of twenty four, just two years over, two years ago,
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  Speaker 4: he signed a five year contract extension.
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  Speaker 3: Was that what this guy's the owner? Yes, okay, well
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  Speaker 3: then I find it odd that he's signing his hockey
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  Speaker 3: coach to five years and his basketball coach to one year.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's why I'm saying, Vic. It might be because
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  Speaker 2: he believes in Brindamore and has no idea with this guy,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe he couldn't find somebody liked.
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  Speaker 4: Let me let me let me show you the ultimate
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  Speaker 4: overpay that became an underpay, and it's right here in
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  Speaker 4: front of you. Nathan McKinnon in two thy fifteen twenty
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  Speaker 4: sixteen and sixteen seventeen at fifty two and fifty three points.
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  Speaker 4: You know what you have said, Nate, we know you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna we know the light's gonna come on, and we
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  Speaker 4: know you're gonna be awesome. We're gonna give you six
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  Speaker 4: and a half per which for his production probably at
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  Speaker 4: the time, with the cap and everything else, was a
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  Speaker 4: bit of an overpay Brett. Yeah, the next year he
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  Speaker 4: had ninety seven points and then ninety nine, and the
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  Speaker 4: res this history. Then he was way, way, way underpaid.
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  Speaker 4: But that's the that's sort of the gamble that you take. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the Avs took that gamble because they knew that he
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  Speaker 4: was going to They knew the light was going to
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  Speaker 4: come on. He's still a twenty two year old kid,
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  Speaker 4: twenty three year old kid, and blame he exploded to
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  Speaker 4: one of the best players on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 3: Doug on the text line rights, why should players be
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  Speaker 3: based upon performance? Their pay aren't? Are TV revenues based
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  Speaker 3: on performance? Yeah, yeah, Doug, they are. Yeah, ratings and
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  Speaker 3: if you aren't, you aren't making the ratings, you aren't
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  Speaker 3: getting the money. That's one hundred percent performance.
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  Speaker 2: didn't happen for the Nuggets next.
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  Speaker 1: And here we go.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you're hungry for nothing?
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  Speaker 1: Which is twenty sixth pick in the twenty twenty sixth
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  Speaker 1: NBA Draft, the Denver Nuggets select absolutely nobody.
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  Speaker 4: Let this mother trucker breathe. That's an order always on time. Oh, whoa,
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  Speaker 4: it's not in the word.
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  Speaker 2: I want Michael McDonald to sing it.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's Bobby Kimball the words. He can kill that song.
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  Speaker 3: You came back to me. You know what?
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  Speaker 2: Think you got the AI stuff? Have AI. Make Michael
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  Speaker 2: McDonald sing this song?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, hold the line by Toto.
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  Speaker 2: Hold the Line, Make Michael McDonald sing it.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, dude, hang on a second last thing. Steve Lucather,
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  Speaker 4: the guitar player, part time singer.
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  Speaker 3: Who, how do you know where these random band members? Random?
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  Speaker 4: You say?
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  Speaker 2: Topless line?
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  Speaker 4: Here?
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  Speaker 3: Look, if I gave you a band, can you can
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  Speaker 3: you tell me who plays what instrument? It depends what
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  Speaker 3: is going on?
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  Speaker 2: That is pretty useless knowledge. To be honest, just say
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  Speaker 2: you can just say the song's.
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  Speaker 4: Good, Okay, I've got Oh you need to blow your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Not really, yeah you do, hang on, No, I don't not.
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  Speaker 2: If it's another name of somebody in a band.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's gonna blow. It's gonna blow your mind. I
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  Speaker 4: think that.
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  Speaker 2: Michael McDonald's in nw A.
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  Speaker 4: No, but the dude, I never mind, doesn't even matter.
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  Speaker 3: Prusion, Paula Street and politics fall.
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  Speaker 4: Steve look Ather still to this day, kills it. He's awesome,
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  Speaker 4: all right.
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  Speaker 2: Last night. It's not what the Nuggets did necessarily, it's
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  Speaker 2: what they didn't do. Now, I'll tell you this. I
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  Speaker 2: think everybody on the surface, if you think about it
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  Speaker 2: for more than two seconds, knows why the Nuggets did
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: what they did, which is trade their first round pick
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: back to number thirty fives. They have two second round
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: picks tonight, and they have two future seconds. I would
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: not be surprised at all if they flip one of
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: these picks, maybe for more assets, or maybe they use
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: both of them on players to fill out the roster.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Don't know, but my biggest I don't know if they
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: call it a disappointment, I'm not really disappointed. But I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: wanted if you're gonna move back in the draft, to
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: move off of a player package, that with a Zeke package,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: that with somebody else to get money off the books
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: because my priority of the offseason is signing Peyton Watson.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I think it should be, and it's pretty
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: clear that's what the Nuggets think it should be. To again,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: we talk about everybody being available for trade this offseason.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: You've seen rumors about every significant player in the rotation
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: except for Nikola, jokicch and Peyton Watson. If we're being honest,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the biggest trade prospect, or maybe easiest trade prospect you have,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: would you agree with this?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Vic?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: The easiest guy to trade would be p Watt and trade.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you could do that immediately and get a get
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: a buyer for You'd have to agree to.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: The new deal obviously, but un trade guys pull out
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: that little book behind Moser.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Not every team can do a sign and trade. Certain
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: restructions and I don't know what they how they apply
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: to the Nuggets.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Sorry, you know what the NBA CBA
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: is like For me? Yeah, I got to go to
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: the bathroom all right, Well, there's rules, you know what
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I mean. Well, we you get one flush to be fair.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait, you can't have any it's
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: just fair to be fair. What we do have bathroom
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: rules at Altitude Sports Radio.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still make a mess.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, The rule is, and you guys break
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: the rule every day because I see you, I watch you,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and management is listening. I'm going to tattletale right now.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: The rule is, you're only supposed to use the bathroom inside,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: okay facility, You guys consistently use the guest bathrooms outside
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the facility that are nicer.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I know who gets the email. Hang on, hang on,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: this is the tick. Tick you don't use the men's restroom.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: You have no idea what it's like in there.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, go try that out tick.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: It's bad at it there.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: It is what it is I'm telling you, Like in
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: two thousand and three, it's a mess. I ain't going
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: in that one doing in the one, the nice one
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: over here, the room, the one that's quiet.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: God, there's so okay. Jesus God, here's your women.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Have no idea you guys. You guys probably have a
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: disco ball and scented candles in yours ours looked like
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: it was kicked in by by.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Thor No no, no, ours looks like a carcass is in
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: there just died. Yes, you can't even walk, No not
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: except listen.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: There are contract limits. Second apron bands.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And are trying to pee while this is happening. It's impossible.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: You can't squeeze it out.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: First Apron rules. Know's wrong with you? No five year deals,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: team and player. I mean there's yeah, there's a lot
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: of things that you can't do with the sign and trade.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: It's just come on, man.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I have a.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Feeling, all right because I think the uh, the NBA
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: here in this next week, it's going to be very busy.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Free agency opens up next week. It's gonna be nuts.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: The Denver Nuggets by doing what they did last night
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: by trading out of their first round pick and acquiring
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: two seconds, they have two picks today. Mind you, they
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: will pick. Let's see what numbers are they today? Their
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: number thirty five and number forty nine, two second round picks.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll use both. They still have
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: to fill out their roster. But they got out of
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: that number one pick, and I know this a second
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: round pick is not as costly as a first round pick,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: so you're not spending as much money obviously for their contracts.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: But I have to believe that here in the next
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: week an announcement will come of a trade where they're
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: gonna shed salary, and then right after that an announcement
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: will come of a deal with Peyton Watson or vice versa.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: When is the league freeze? Is that like the sixth
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: of July or that's when I think the July sixth
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: is when you can actually do free agents. You can
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: talk to them on the thirtieth, but then there's a
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: free to your own.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Free agency and moratorium whatever is the word you're looking for.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: What M is for? Moratorium?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna look like.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: A look, tell me what M for. It's got to
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: be moretorium. It has to be has to No, it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: mid level exception. Huh lame. They need to acquire assets
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: because you, if you do want to make moves somewhere
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: down the line, not even this year, but beyond, you
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: need kickers to throw into deals. How often do you
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: see just a one for one deal in the NBA
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: player for player Almost never.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: It's almost always a kicker throwing involved somehow, which is
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: why last night, when you see the draft, so and
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: so take so and so through so and so and
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: so and so. Yeah, like that pick has been handed
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: around three times by the time you know somebody actually
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: uses it, right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I just you know, it was the most maybe underwhelming
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: thing that could have happened last night, And part of
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: it was you waited all the way to the pick
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: just to have it announced it then, which always kind
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of sucks. But I don't know. I think that the
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Nuggets will do something tonight. Again, I don't know how
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: small or large it will be, but Vic's wright at
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: some point in the next week or so, you're going
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: to have an announcement of somebody in this roster was traded. Somebody, sure, I.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: If somebody asked me last night, I had a couple
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: of phone calls, what are the Nuggets gonna do? What
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: do they have planned? What's this? And a lot of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: times I have an indication I have a feeling at
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: least I have no idea.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Me neither nothing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I I have never been this what's the word I'm
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: looking for?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Lost?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: It's just such a weird feeling, not knowing what the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: plan of attack is and clearly they have a plan.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: The fact that we don't know what the plan is
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: doesn't change anything. But I have no clue. Well, remember,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: it could be huge. It could be it could be
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: so big that they're on the verge of completely transforming
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the rock. Or it could be so small that they're
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: gonna run it back and they're just trying to whittle
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: away enough salary to fit Peyton Watson under the apron.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Then that would be the small route.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Texture says pessimistic. Could be some of that. I'm not
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: feeling good about the I don't know how else to
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: say it. Like as we sit today, subject to change.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't feel good about the Nuggets at all. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: really don't.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Good in terms of hopeful or I don't.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I don't This team that's currently constructed, I don't think
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: has a championships opportunity. I don't think that's it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Can I give you something that may provide some hope
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: in it? Did you guys see the video yesterday that
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: emerged of Nikola Jokic's practicing for Team Serbia. I didn't
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: see this video. He looks skinny, he looks like a
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: different human. Yeah, just skinny. Put him side by side,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: and you got to understand something. He got hurt this year,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: coming back from an injury. When you're you can't use
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: your lower body, you're gonna gain some lbs.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: You are.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: He doesn't look skinny. He looks built, but like he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: got a he's got a waste.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Tell me he looks different.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: He looks, he looks, yeah, he does. Look there. He
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: looks really good. Yep, really good.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Really good. Now. I don't know if you can do
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: his side by side, compare him to what he looked
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: like in March. But again, you're coming off an injury
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: where you can't do anything.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Looks if you want hopeful, that's hopeful to me to
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: think I'm not bred. There's nothing on his wrists, he's
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: got no he's got no things on his stuff. There
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: he is.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: If you think the I don't know pessimistic nature of
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: that's his skin.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: As he's that's as skinny as he's looked in years.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Look at his gut. Man.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Hang on. If you think the pessimistic nature of my
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: thought process right now is tied to that human you're incorrect.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: That's fine. That's all he could He could commit it
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: four pounds or two hundred.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Exactly right, that's fine, exactly.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that at all. It's everything else.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: He's never been to worry.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, So are you the kind of fan that you
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: just need activity to make yourself make yourself feel better?
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I guess I know. I don't. What were you expecting
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: what I told you going in? I gave you Option
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: H from option eight.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I think I told you I didn't expect anything last night.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I didn't really want anything.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: They told you, And I'm just laying it out for you.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: They told you in the season ending press conference that
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: running it back is likely the idea moving forward running
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it back.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think they said that's likely. They said that's
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that's an option.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I think they made it pretty well known that running.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: It back is You also said everything's on the like
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: every player is on the table.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I think I think most people that listen to that
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: press conference got the impression that they're going to run
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: it back.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I've been to a lot of press conferences, and that's
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the impression I got.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: When you hang on hand, when you float the idea
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: of trading Jamal Murray, that that's on the table.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: They did that the year before too, though.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: No they didn't. They said, Jamal's gon to improve on
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: things they said.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Jam I disagree.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: You think they floated the possibility that was there was
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: no discussion of Jamal being traded this year, not not
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: a single one. Not a single one this year.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: There is maybe you knew it and didn't tell us.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I am not surprised by them not
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: making any moves yet. Doesn't mean they won't, and it
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that. The other thing is, it doesn't mean
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: they haven't tried. No, what if, what if they've tried
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: to move one of the big names. I'm sure they have.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: What if they have and the return isn't even close
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: to what they hoped to get.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And that identifies why I'm at where I'm at it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: That doesn't have to do with trading the first round
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: or to move back last night. That's not why I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: feel this way this way since the season ended, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: so to me, it's the fact there hasn't been a
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: move when I think that they've wanted to move something,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: because again, the only the only way that you get
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Peyton Watson back on the roster is by moving one
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of your guys. That's it, because they aren't going into
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: the second apron, not with this team. And the fact
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that that hasn't happened, Yeah, that has me pessimistic because
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it feels like maybe there's roadblocks. Now. There were a
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: bunch of people last year MOS that were I'm chill.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I'm just sill, chill. I'm just telling you how I
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: feel at the moment. Again, subject to change, because what
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I was going to say was last year there was
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Nuggets fans are upset after they hired
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Tenser and Wallace, so everybody chill, and then on Friday,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: everybody thought they were the greatest thing ever. Like it
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: happened that quickly because then it was the MPG MPG trade,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: followed by signing Bruce Brown, signing hard Away and getting Valanciunis.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: A lot of this depends on what you what you
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: could say, are running it back too? When they said
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: run it back? What is your definition of running back?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I'm curious and I'll give you mine.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: That the running back to me would be your starting
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: five is the same maybe except for Cam Johnson insert
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Peyton Watson.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: My definition of running back is Jamal Joker and ag
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: are coming back. That's my definition of running it back.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: If that's the case and you have a healthy ag,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with that at all. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: If that's your version of running it back, and you
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: can guarantee me that Aaron Gordon is healthy, I'm saying, sweet, Yeah,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: sounds great, because those guys have won and I think
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: they still can win.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what terrifies me of the running back idea.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: When you get bounced in the first round. Jokic said
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: this after the series ended against Minnesota. We lost in
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the first round. We weren't close to a championship, he
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: said it. And that's true. You weren't close. If you
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: lose in the first round, especially to a team that
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: lost all of their best players basically at the end
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of that series, and you still couldn't beat them to
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: force the game seven, put your backs against the wall. No,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: that's not close. But hang on, hang on, that's not close.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: If you come back next year and your starting lineup
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: is Jamal Christian Brown, Peyton Watson, Aaron Gordon, Nikola, jokicch
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: and your bench is what what's your bench? I think
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: one thing's been made abundantly clear the last two years
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: in the NBA, you need to play ten guys, So
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: what does your bench look like? Your bench is Strather, Holmes, Pickett.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: That's what terrifies me about running it back. You didn't
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: trust them when the team was deep. Now you're gonna
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: run it back and say we trust them now? Well,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: how does that make sense? Like Zeke Naji being on
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the roster for another year makes absolutely no sense to me,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: because what's the point. What's the point He's not going
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to play? And if you're gonna convince me that what
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: in what year is this for Zeke seven?
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: You know something?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Well, now he's got it. What changed? What changed? That's
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: what terrifies me. That's why I'm pessimistic.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Pretty, I'm pretty I'm pretty aware now of what terrifies
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: you think, Well.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: What changed is pretty simple, guys. You made a run.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: It didn't work. You you you said FM picks and
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: you set up a roster last season to make a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: championship run. And we all looked at the Nuggets roster
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and said, this is the best roster they've ever had.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: We all said it, right, we all said it. This roster. Hell,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: going into the playoffs, a lot of a lot of
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: people thought they'd win the championship with this roster.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: This roster I did.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: I thought they don't think they would. I thought they
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: saw it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: To get to that spot, to put that roster together,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets gave up a ton of assets to get there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: They gave up first round picks, they gave up second
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: round picks, they gave up to get off contracts, they
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: had to give up second round picks. And now they're
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: left with a dearth They have none. So yesterday, in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: my opinion, was a way to replenish some of the Sure,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: that's the step they took, and that's boring the fans,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: for fans, for us watching it. Wait, what did you do? Nothing?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: You replenished a couple second rounders. Well, we've we've talked
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: about this. They don't have anything in the war chest.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: That's what yesterday was.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: You're broke in all aspects. You broke, I mean like
• 32:56
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  Speaker 2: if the Broncos are bad this year, I'm gonna point
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to this picture as to why.
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  Speaker 4: A boat pick something about dudes on a boat.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: You remember the Giants Odell Beckham and then they went
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: like fifteen and sixty after that or something crazy.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: All right, I have a bunch of oh by the ways,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say it the best one for last.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: So let me get through these. I've got a Broncos.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Oh by the way, uh did you see the head
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: coach of the US World Cup team, Pokatino. He goes
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: on social media and does the unboxing all these unboxing videos.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Now he mboxes a bronc oh jersey that was sent
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: to him by the Denver Broncos. I didn't know that
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Pokatino was a Broncos fan.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: I had no idea either.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: But listen. Listen to what he said after he unboxed it.
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  Speaker 5: Ooh easy, thank you so much. Wow, so beautiful guys.
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  Speaker 5: Think you sank you? Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest.
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  Speaker 5: You sank you.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: There's some kid that is like the the He's widely
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: known as the unboxing kid. I guess on YouTube, this
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: little kid give me a little flair?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you?
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: What do you think what you wanted to do? The
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: guy went full crown? What what? What? What do you want?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I want? I want some flair, he said. Instead of
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: saying thank you, he said sink you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: By the way, does that mean he's a Broncos fan
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: or did you just get a Broncos jersey?
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Hey it worked. Yeah.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, can you imagine me? I get a
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: jersey from like the Minnesota Wild mud boxing.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Hand hand you guys, this is this is him unboxing
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: ready mm hm oh, thank you, thank you. This is
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: what he This is what he should do. What wonder
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: what we got here? Let's open it? Oh that is amazing.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Look at this thing. Sank you so much, sank your
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: That's how you won.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I got one real quick, vic before you jump in again.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Hey, someone said I'm mispronouncing his name. Miranda says, isn't
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: it Pokatino? Pokatino? What what what pronounce it?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Pochettino?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Is it pocketino.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I said, know. He wears fishing shirts
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and he kicks ass.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Awesome, love that guy.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you're upset with the way I
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: pronounce his last name, Pocatino, pochettino, whatever haven't pronounced?
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Thank you?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, why did you take a shot at us?
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to take a shot at the texture and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: he got in the way. Sorry, thank you.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: I saw Brad Stevens, the president of operations for Boston, says,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Jalen Brown is a valuable, valued member of this organization.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: He's a big part of us. I'm not gonna predict
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: the future, but boy, he's one of us.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Someone says it's Pochettino. Stop it, okay. In Italian, a
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: ch is pronounced ky vic noth, not chuck. It's k Pokatino.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Shut up.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not shutting out. People are trying to challenge
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: how I pronounced names.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I thought it was funny, Yeah, that Jalen Brown.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: They're like, no, this guy's great.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Of course he's gonna be here. I wish I had
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the voice inflection, that the high voice, that it's the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: dead giveaway. They can't be that's how you know, Hey,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: most the NHL wants to expand to Houston or Austin.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Saw that what you think is Austin actually gonna keep
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: growing or is Austin flashing the wad.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go to Talkie Talkerson who lived in Austin.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: You have the floor of Talkie Talkerson.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: He's still I know Austin has double the size from
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: when I lived there. It's huge. Did you know that
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: the city of Austin is as big as Denver, if
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: not bigger.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: There you go population.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Take a look population of Austin versus population of Denver.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: And again I'm not talking about the metros. I'm talking
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: about the cities themselves.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I think they're looking for more attractive markets.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: They're more Wow.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is that would it be attractive
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: to players to want to live in Texas? And yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: I mean pro you knowably. You know what's interesting The
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: league cannot expand in Canada. They're not going to put
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: another team in Hamilton, just down the road from Toronto.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: They're not going to put a team in Quebec City. Again,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: that the funding just isn't there. I mean in terms
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: of of being able to stay in the level. I'm
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: blown away that that Winnipeg is making it work. So
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: every everywhere they look, everywhere they're looking is in the
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: US in a market that is attractive.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Did you guys see that Derek White? Oh, by the way,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: is now he's doing one of those ambassador or whatever
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they're calling it rolls to so it's president of basketball
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Strategy to see you. I saw that, and Desmond Baine
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: is doing that to TCU. You can just do this
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: in the middle of your career. Just something you do.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Now, we'll give us if you give money. Derek White
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: donated two million dollars to the University of Colorado basketball team.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: So he showed up yesterday with a two million dollar check.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: And you know what that two million is gonna do.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: It's gonna help them get better, it's gonna help them recruit.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: If I if I had, if I had money to
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: give away like that, what would my title be? Vic
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: up and see you, I'd want a title president.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Is this president president of basketball Strategy? I don't know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: president of the mini bar in the suite maybe something
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: But but my point is, you know, if you I
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: guess if you give that kind of money, you get
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: some sort of a card title. You're you're yeah, I'll
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: give you nothing. Kelly.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: By the way, that is like, I think that's the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: oldest reference on this show. I think that's seven years old.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: It was a woman who was a donor to see
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: you way back. Probably still is.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: But we've met her.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: We did.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: How much would you guys pay for Willy gene Wallder's
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Willy Wonka hat because it's up for auction right now?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: How much? What do you think it's going for?
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely nothing? That stuff means aly.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, how about this? What do you think it's going for?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Some freak is going to pay one hundred grand for it?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Probably more than that, probably five hundred, three.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, whatever, have fun?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Cool top at though, cool top at.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Cool story, show up at the golf course. Hey, look
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: at my head, everybody, what is it? This is Willy
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Wonka's top hat? All right, great, hit the ball, let's go.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I'm actually so with thick on this.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: You get nothing.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: The amount lose the amount of money people pay for
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: little chatchkeis like this never's made sense, Like dumb things.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, this is Elvis's underwear. Yeah, sweet, I'm so
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Well, the top bidder for for that went to a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Marcus A Moser.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: It looks like.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: No buddy wore these to the Grand Ole operaty Oh,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I guess that's an extra five grand Amen.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Listen. All I'm saying is that people they it's a
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: valuable thing. It's part of movie history. Like, what would you.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Give three hundred and fifty thousand dollars?
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: What do you think, Luke Skywalker's first lightsaber is worse?
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Love of God, millions freaks out there.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Hey man, they got Dorothy's shoes from the Wizard of
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Oz and the Smithsonian.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: You know, people can make the same case about sports collectibles.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Right, I do, absolutely right, I do make the case
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: for it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Are we not gyeeks in our own right? I mean
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: this geek wearing this exposed flat built hat over here.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: That's a cool hat. What do you mean?
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: No, fine, Nelly, I have an exposed hat. Should we
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: wear exposed hats on the same day one time?
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Let's do it?
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I gotta know, by the way, we've been talking about
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: changes to the PGA tour.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: This is bigger than an Oh, by the way, I
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: think that's my.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I'll put it in. Oh, by the way, we can
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: talk about it when we come back. Okay, according to sources,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: and these are my sources, the sources me look for
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: the PGA to return to Denver College.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: You're damn right, we getting it back, said, we're getting
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: it back, getting the pg TOURMA, Well, there's only there's
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: only a handful. You could do it at nic Absolutely,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Murphy Blackstone, Oh my god, listen, that's one of them.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Castle Pin has been there, done that. Here's what I
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: do know. Cherry Hills and Castle Pines ran spectacular BMW Championships. Spectacular. Yep,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: that would probably be the top of the list, unless
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: you want to go north up to Berthen you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: and play that Tpcurce.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: But that's.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know that. It's a PGA tour course, you
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I'd love to see him play like uh Overland.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Willis broken tea. Absolutely.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I want to see if they can they navigate the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: trees as poorly as I do at Meadow Hills.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: How many trees you gonna hit?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Because I hit a lot of them all along fairway.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: You can't miss them.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: We'll hit it down the middle of the fairway, you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: try to cut the corner.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I don't do that, Okay, Nope, nope, nope, nope nope.
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  Speaker 3: Have you, guys ever played Evergreen? Can you imagine the
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: pron par three at Evergreen? Over the rock where you
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: can't see the green points. It's got an arrow pointing
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: to where you're supposed.
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