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172. How I quit my job with FU money

Ana chats to Frances Cook, a financial journalist and host of Making Cents about the underrated power of small, set-and-forget money moves, especially when it comes to retirement.

They talk about building “f-you money” so you can live life on your terms, having a fallback that isn’t debt, and how financial stress can impact your ability to think clearly and plan ahead.

Frances also unpacks how some of our biggest money fears come from childhood—and why they’re not always rational.

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