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- 0:23Speaker 2: This is Wayne Alan Root, Raw and Unfiltered with America's
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- 0:32Speaker 1: What time is it?
- 0:34Speaker 3: It's time war War.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Here's your host, one hundred percent Raw Truth, one hundred
- 0:41Speaker 2: percent American Maid the Warrior, Wayne Alan.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Roots, Aldah. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. This is the Talk Media Network.
- 0:59Speaker 1: My name is Lee Elsie filling in for Wayne Allen Road.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Shout out to the entire country from one coast to another.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Our pals doing all the work up in Minnesota, Daniel
- 1:09Speaker 1: and the Crue. Thank you very much. We got a
- 1:12Speaker 1: lot to get to this evening, and I want to
- 1:14Speaker 1: go back a little bit if you don't mind. Here
- 1:16Speaker 1: we go again. Here we go again. I figured maybe
- 1:22Speaker 1: at least for the rest of the year, I wouldn't
- 1:24Speaker 1: have to talk about an immigration issue, but I'd be wrong.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Another innocent American is dead, another life extinguished in a
- 1:36Speaker 1: crime so heinous it's really difficult to comprehend. Imagine you're
- 1:44Speaker 1: a young woman traveling on the subway in New York City,
- 1:51Speaker 1: and this young woman is lit on fire and burned
- 1:56Speaker 1: to death in Brooklyn, New York. And yes, we have
- 2:00Speaker 1: somebody arrested, thirty three year old Sebastian's Apeta. Guess where
- 2:05Speaker 1: he's from, Guatemala? Did I mention he's an illegal alien?
- 2:12Speaker 1: So much we don't know why, why, why would you
- 2:16Speaker 1: do something like this. What we do know, though, as
- 2:19Speaker 1: a woman is dead, burned alive in what should have
- 2:23Speaker 1: been a routine subway ride. Again, let me paint this
- 2:27Speaker 1: picture for you. Some witnesses say, the train pulled into
- 2:30Speaker 1: the station, suspect calmly approached the victim, who was simply
- 2:35Speaker 1: sitting in her seat. It could be any of you,
- 2:39Speaker 1: visiting somebody in New York taking the subway, any of you.
- 2:44Speaker 1: He used the lighter to ignite her clothing. The flames
- 2:47Speaker 1: consumed her in seconds. Officers rushed because they smelled smoke,
- 2:53Speaker 1: and she burned alive right there, right on the subway.
- 2:57Speaker 1: And the suspect, well, he was just sitting calmly on
- 3:00Speaker 1: a bench in the station's platform, as if nothing happened.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Do you remember that moron that calls himself United States
- 3:09Speaker 1: Center who got on the House floor when there was
- 3:12Speaker 1: an issue, I believe it was guns, and said, what
- 3:14Speaker 1: are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing?
- 3:17Speaker 1: Do you remember that? I played often what are we doing?
- 3:20Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we doing? So I
- 3:24Speaker 1: ask you, Senator, what are we doing, Senator Chris Murphy,
- 3:29Speaker 1: what are we doing to protect American citizens? However, our subways,
- 3:37Speaker 1: our streets, our cities become breeding grounds for this kind
- 3:44Speaker 1: of unchecked wickedness. I point the finger at you and
- 3:49Speaker 1: the rest of your Democrat crony buddies like Biden, who
- 3:53Speaker 1: commutes the sentences of dozens of convicted murderers from death row.
- 4:02Speaker 1: This piece of human trash. Biden, most corrupt president history
- 4:07Speaker 1: of the country. The governor of New York. While she
- 4:10Speaker 1: put in some extra cameras, she actually put in a
- 4:13Speaker 1: whole bunch of extra National Guard troops. But let's not
- 4:18Speaker 1: kid ourselves. Cameras soldiers, they're not solving the problem. All
- 4:23Speaker 1: they do is record the chaos. This isn't just about
- 4:27Speaker 1: one tragedy. It's about a system fail that has allowed
- 4:31Speaker 1: crime to spiral out of control. It's about policies. Yeah,
- 4:36Speaker 1: liberal policies, soft on crime, policies failing to protect American citizens.
- 4:43Speaker 1: According to the US Customs and Border Patrol Protection, crimes
- 4:48Speaker 1: linked to illegal immigration have spiked in the last four years. Again,
- 4:52Speaker 1: as I opened this segment, I said, here we go again.
- 4:54Speaker 1: How many times have we talked about this spike? Assault, battery,
- 4:58Speaker 1: domestic violence, burglary, robbery, drug trafficking, murder, you name it.
- 5:04Speaker 1: The numbers do not lie. Between twenty nineteen and twenty
- 5:08Speaker 1: twenty three, illegal boarder crossings have surged, the threats along
- 5:12Speaker 1: with him have surged. Yet are outgoing leaders this crew
- 5:19Speaker 1: that we kicked out of office, thank god, continue to
- 5:22Speaker 1: play a political game. That's all they're doing. Instead of
- 5:26Speaker 1: addressing glaring holes in our immigration system, they decide to
- 5:31Speaker 1: take this Pollyanna approach as if nothing's wrong, or if
- 5:36Speaker 1: you like somebody like me who screams at the top
- 5:39Speaker 1: of their lungs, somehow I'm a racist. I don't like
- 5:42Speaker 1: brown people or black people because I'm screaming about the
- 5:47Speaker 1: millions of people that have come in here. It's failed policy,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and it's not about hatred or exclusion. It's simply about
- 5:55Speaker 1: protecting the citizens of this nation, all of the citizens,
- 6:02Speaker 1: regardless of where their ancestors came from. But protecting citizens
- 6:08Speaker 1: requires a government willing to enforce the rule of law.
- 6:13Speaker 1: It requires leaders who prioritize the safety and well being
- 6:18Speaker 1: of their constituents over political correctness. But instead we get
- 6:24Speaker 1: lectures on compassion, right compassion while a woman is burned
- 6:32Speaker 1: alive on a subway train. In twenty twenty three, New
- 6:37Speaker 1: York City, New York City alone reported fourteen hundred assaults
- 6:40Speaker 1: in subway systems, twenty percent increase over the previous year.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Why do you think that is just out of nowhere
- 6:47Speaker 1: the increases went up. No, it's because there's more illegal aliens.
- 6:51Speaker 1: There's more violent people on our streets. Nationwide, crime committed
- 6:56Speaker 1: by illegal immigrants, ranging from violent assault to drug trafficking,
- 7:00Speaker 1: are simply stretching law enforcement thin, leaving communities vulnerable. And
- 7:05Speaker 1: these are the politicians a lot of you put in power.
- 7:07Speaker 1: These are the politicians a lot of you have chosen.
- 7:10Speaker 1: He shrugged your shoulders, ah, until it happens to you,
- 7:14Speaker 1: until it's your cousin, your wife, your daughter that's burned
- 7:17Speaker 1: alive on a subway train, or shot or raped or strangled.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Simply secure the border. This is not sustainable. This is
- 7:29Speaker 1: not acceptable. Secure the border, not tomorrow, not next week,
- 7:34Speaker 1: do it today. A nation without secure border, this is
- 7:38Speaker 1: simply not a nation at all. And to be honest
- 7:40Speaker 1: with that, Biden administration should be held culpable essentially to
- 7:44Speaker 1: treason for what he's done. Letting this many people in, unvetted,
- 7:48Speaker 1: unchecked is a treasonous act, and he continues with strokes
- 7:53Speaker 1: of pens over and over again to commit treasonous acts.
- 7:57Speaker 1: We have to restore law and order. We have to
- 8:00Speaker 1: allow police to do their jobs. We have to keep real,
- 8:04Speaker 1: hardened criminals behind bars. We cannot be soft on crime.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Imagine that that was your sister again, your wife, who
- 8:13Speaker 1: is maybe going to work, maybe she was going to
- 8:16Speaker 1: a New Year's Eve party, and for no known reason,
- 8:21Speaker 1: this person burns her alive. The holiday season is supposed
- 8:25Speaker 1: to be about peace and love and togetherness. But this
- 8:29Speaker 1: young woman and her family, they don't get a joyous
- 8:33Speaker 1: holiday season. They don't get Christmas, they don't get New Years.
- 8:39Speaker 1: They're just left in a stuporing bewilderment of the atrocity
- 8:45Speaker 1: that happened to their loved one. Think about all of
- 8:50Speaker 1: the tentacles of acts like this, right, think about all
- 8:54Speaker 1: of it. Everything, like a domino effect, is affected. Yes,
- 8:57Speaker 1: she's burned to death. Horrific way to go, as bad
- 9:00Speaker 1: as you can imagine for what we don't know, probably nothing.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Her inner circle family where she works, her friends, devastated, devastated,
- 9:10Speaker 1: her kids, devastated. While you were home on Christmas Day
- 9:15Speaker 1: opening your presence, this woman's family was probably huddled together
- 9:25Speaker 1: in some dark room trying to figure out how their
- 9:32Speaker 1: mother or wife or daughter will never have a Christmas
- 9:36Speaker 1: ever again, because the leadership in the United States of
- 9:42Speaker 1: America decided that it was more important to keep a
- 9:46Speaker 1: strangled grip on power and giving the public an illusion
- 9:52Speaker 1: of compassion by allowing countless numbers of illegal migrants to
- 9:58Speaker 1: come into this country after another, thousands after thousands, millions
- 10:02Speaker 1: after millions, and the sheer mathematics of it all what
- 10:05Speaker 1: I always talk about, the simple mathematics of this many people.
- 10:10Speaker 1: You'll get good ones, no question about it. But mixed
- 10:14Speaker 1: in with the best of the best coming from these
- 10:17Speaker 1: other countries Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico, mixed in with the best
- 10:23Speaker 1: of the best, are the worst of the worst. And
- 10:27Speaker 1: as we all found out yet again a few days
- 10:30Speaker 1: before Christmas, a poor woman minding your business, sitting alone
- 10:35Speaker 1: on a subway is lit on fire and burned to
- 10:39Speaker 1: death by an illegal immigrant. And the responsibility of that
- 10:44Speaker 1: falls directly on the shoulders one hundred percent of the
- 10:48Speaker 1: President of the United States and the minions that surround him. Now,
- 10:52Speaker 1: I know Biden is no longer in charge. We can
- 10:56Speaker 1: argue whether or not he was ever in charge, but
- 10:59Speaker 1: his face is on these policies, and these policies once
- 11:05Speaker 1: again have caused an American citizen to die because you
- 11:11Speaker 1: want to give this illusion that somehow you're more altruistic
- 11:16Speaker 1: and passionate, compassionate about the human plight from around the world,
- 11:22Speaker 1: instead of worrying about what's happening right here in your
- 11:25Speaker 1: own backyard, your own fellow Americans dying at the sword
- 11:30Speaker 1: of these illegals.
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- 14:52Speaker 1: All Right, Welcome back Top Media Network. The show is
- 14:54Speaker 1: War on LEELSI filling in for Wayne Allen Root and
- 14:58Speaker 1: uh here with me in my studio. You're in Connecticut.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Right now is Colonel Rob Simmons.
- 15:03Speaker 4: Now, Rob was a congressman CIA agent, and I brought
- 15:06Speaker 4: Rob on today Slash tonight to talk at least get
- 15:10Speaker 4: his personal experience with President Jimmy Carter. And Carter takes
- 15:14Speaker 4: a lot of heat, but there is at least one
- 15:16Speaker 4: good story that I wanted to share with you through
- 15:19Speaker 4: the eyes of the Colonel Rob Simmons.
- 15:21Speaker 1: So, Rob, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. So
- 15:23Speaker 1: tell your story.
- 15:23Speaker 8: I met Jimmy Carter many years ago when my wife
- 15:27Speaker 8: and I were in Taiwan. We were interested in his
- 15:30Speaker 8: candidacy for president. Now some people say, well I voted
- 15:34Speaker 8: for him.
- 15:34Speaker 1: I didn't. I could have.
- 15:35Speaker 8: I was not a Republican at the time. I was unaffiliated.
- 15:37Speaker 8: But we're interested and sent away and got some material
- 15:40Speaker 8: all the way halfway around the world from his campaign.
- 15:42Speaker 8: He seemed like an interesting guy, and you know, like
- 15:45Speaker 8: a lot of Americans who were kind of fed up
- 15:47Speaker 8: with the whole Nixon Watergate thing and Jerry Ford, who
- 15:50Speaker 8: was a decent guy, he pardoned Nixon and that was
- 15:53Speaker 8: kind of the end of his administration. Yeah, anybody who
- 15:56Speaker 8: who partons Richard Nixon. The media was.
- 15:58Speaker 1: All over it.
- 16:00Speaker 8: We felt, you know, it was time for a change,
- 16:01Speaker 8: and Jimmy Carter was that change. But the change didn't
- 16:04Speaker 8: really work out. His administration had a lot of problems.
- 16:08Speaker 8: One thing that came to mind for me was, you
- 16:10Speaker 8: know the Panama Canal. I just thought, you know, that's
- 16:12Speaker 8: symbolic of American power in this hemisphere, and you're giving
- 16:16Speaker 8: it away. What are you giving it away for? What's
- 16:18Speaker 8: the point we're giving it to the Panamanians. Well, they
- 16:21Speaker 8: didn't build it. In fact, there was no Panama before
- 16:24Speaker 8: we built the canal. It was two other countries. We
- 16:28Speaker 8: built the canal, and we essentially created the canal zone
- 16:30Speaker 8: and essentially created Panama.
- 16:32Speaker 1: So why are you giving it up?
- 16:33Speaker 8: It's an international body, it's important to our national security.
- 16:37Speaker 8: And you know, he screwed up with the Iranians, he
- 16:39Speaker 8: didn't take care of the shy, brought in the Ayatol.
- 16:42Speaker 8: There are a lot of things in the administration that
- 16:43Speaker 8: that didn't go well. But I found him to be
- 16:46Speaker 8: a good and decent guy, and his post presidency was
- 16:48Speaker 8: a very good post presidency. Something that he did that
- 16:52Speaker 8: he did that I know about and others know about
- 16:54Speaker 8: it as well, but not so much as a eulogy today,
- 16:59Speaker 8: but a shout out. And he's probably had the most
- 17:01Speaker 8: successful post presidency of anybody in history that I can
- 17:05Speaker 8: think of. There there may be a few examples. I
- 17:07Speaker 8: think John Adams served in the Congress after being president.
- 17:12Speaker 8: I think taff served it. Uh, he served in the
- 17:15Speaker 8: Supreme Court after being president. But Carter, you know, he
- 17:19Speaker 8: did a hell of a good job. But here's here's
- 17:20Speaker 8: my shout out for Jimmy Carter. You may recall back
- 17:24Speaker 8: in two thousand and five, George Bush's Pentagon announced the
- 17:30Speaker 8: bases around the country that they recommended for closure.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Yes, and what was on that list? What was it? Well,
- 17:37Speaker 1: the sub basin Groten Wow, our subbays.
- 17:42Speaker 8: The submarine capital of the world, erect. They wanted to
- 17:45Speaker 8: take our base away.
- 17:46Speaker 1: That is correct.
- 17:47Speaker 8: The Bush administration, Pentagon Bush born and born in Connecticut.
- 17:52Speaker 8: They're going to stick it to him, that's right. And
- 17:54Speaker 8: he didn't say much about it. Well, it's the process.
- 17:57Speaker 8: It's the process. So then the process is that when
- 18:01Speaker 8: the recommendations are made, you have a Base Realignment and
- 18:05Speaker 8: Closure Committee or BRACK, and the BRAC is going to
- 18:09Speaker 8: study what should be done. Well, we were scheduled for
- 18:14Speaker 8: total closure. All of the pieces of the submarine base
- 18:19Speaker 8: were going to go to other places. So we were
- 18:21Speaker 8: scheduled for total closure with a school going to Georgia
- 18:25Speaker 8: with Jimmy Carter limb. And what happened was there was
- 18:29Speaker 8: a submarine that was named after Jimmy Carter. It was
- 18:32Speaker 8: called the us S Jimmy Carter, and he came up
- 18:36Speaker 8: with Roslin in two thousand and four to commission it.
- 18:41Speaker 8: And I was I met him and we had a
- 18:43Speaker 8: nice talk and we went out and we stood on
- 18:46Speaker 8: the sale on the deck in front of the submarine,
- 18:50Speaker 8: and I told rosalind I said, you know, when you
- 18:52Speaker 8: swing that champagne bottle, don't worry about hurting the submarine.
- 18:56Speaker 8: Smack that baby because you want to break the bottle,
- 18:59Speaker 8: because if you don't break the bottle, all those sailors
- 19:02Speaker 8: are gonna say, oh, bad news.
- 19:05Speaker 1: This ship is cursed. Is that true? Oh yeah, ship
- 19:08Speaker 1: is cursed.
- 19:09Speaker 8: And that was in two thousand and four, and that
- 19:13Speaker 8: they did that, and then it was delivered to the
- 19:15Speaker 8: Navy in December of two thousand and four, and then
- 19:17Speaker 8: it went out in two thousand and five, and in
- 19:21Speaker 8: two thousand and five Jimmy Carter and Roslin went on
- 19:26Speaker 8: board that Jimmy Carter was stationed off of King's Bay.
- 19:30Speaker 8: They went on board for an overnight that was in
- 19:33Speaker 8: August of two thousand and five. Well, in August of
- 19:35Speaker 8: two thousand and five, Lee, we were deep into trying
- 19:39Speaker 8: to save the base and it was not going well.
- 19:41Speaker 8: We didn't have the votes on the commission. I knew, Princippi,
- 19:44Speaker 8: I knew. I got to call and dealt with all
- 19:46Speaker 8: of the members, but we didn't have the numbers. We
- 19:49Speaker 8: just didn't have the numbers. And Princippi, who is a
- 19:52Speaker 8: good buddy of mine, I knew him for many years.
- 19:54Speaker 8: He said, Rob is not looking good. It's just not
- 19:57Speaker 8: looking good. But then what happened was very interesting. Jimmy
- 20:00Speaker 8: Carter went out on this overnight on the Jimmy Carter
- 20:03Speaker 8: and he had dinner in the wardroom with some of
- 20:05Speaker 8: the officers and they had a long conversation and he
- 20:09Speaker 8: expressed his concern about the closure of the base. It
- 20:12Speaker 8: doesn't seem like a good idea. And one of the
- 20:15Speaker 8: people that sat in on that meeting got in touch
- 20:18Speaker 8: with me and said, what do you think if we
- 20:20Speaker 8: got president Carter to write a letter supporting the base,
- 20:24Speaker 8: and we said, oh, well, he won't do it because
- 20:27Speaker 8: he's getting stuff in Georgia.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Right.
- 20:28Speaker 8: No, no, he seems to get it.
- 20:31Speaker 1: And he wrote the letter and the base. Let's see. Colonel.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing that story. We got to run out
- 20:36Speaker 1: of time. We'll be right back. You're listening to war.
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- 22:15Speaker 1: he was a little bit about a book he's written
- 22:17Speaker 1: about two years ago, but more in particular talk about
- 22:20Speaker 1: education and the deterioration of education. Our guest is Professor
- 22:25Speaker 1: Mark Bauerline. I saw you post a bunch of things
- 22:28Speaker 1: on x and a lot of it has to do
- 22:30Speaker 1: with kids today in social media, and but in particular
- 22:33Speaker 1: cell phones and having this device in their hands has
- 22:37Speaker 1: dumbed them down a little bit, right, I.
- 22:40Speaker 11: Think it's I think it's serious now. I think it
- 22:42Speaker 11: started twenty years ago when social media came along. It
- 22:47Speaker 11: seems like, you know, prehistoric ages when the first social
- 22:50Speaker 11: media single, but now it's my Space. And then a
- 22:53Speaker 11: few years later, ka Facebook came along, and then the
- 22:57Speaker 11: iPhone developed and we had texting. I mean, by by,
- 23:01Speaker 11: but twenty eleven, twenty twelve, kids were running more than
- 23:05Speaker 11: three thousand texts a month. They were still doing all
- 23:07Speaker 11: the all the phone calls, and we simply had the
- 23:10Speaker 11: screen time, which was a purveyor of youth culture and
- 23:15Speaker 11: peer pressure. You know, the word twenty years ago is
- 23:19Speaker 11: oh my goodness. These kids. They've got the world of
- 23:21Speaker 11: knowledge at their fingertips. They can go into museums now
- 23:25Speaker 11: from their bedrooms. They can learn more and they can
- 23:28Speaker 11: write more than kids ever had before. And the millennial
- 23:32Speaker 11: they're going to be the ones leading America into the
- 23:35Speaker 11: twenty first century. They're the pioneers. They're the digital natives,
- 23:40Speaker 11: they were called and sorry, it just didn't happen. Not
- 23:46Speaker 11: only do we find millennials now, we were in their
- 23:49Speaker 11: thirties are pretty unhappy about about their lives. They don't
- 23:54Speaker 11: have a lot of optimism about the future. They're not
- 23:56Speaker 11: getting married and having the kids. That's nearly breaks they
- 24:00Speaker 11: used to. They've got a lot of high levels of narcissism, anxiety,
- 24:05Speaker 11: and fresh and social mistrust. And I think a lot
- 24:09Speaker 11: of that was because, you know, when they were fifteen
- 24:11Speaker 11: years old, they were told the world is whatever you
- 24:14Speaker 11: want it to be. You can customize your your your inputs,
- 24:18Speaker 11: you can have a daily mean as it was called,
- 24:21Speaker 11: right in your bedroom. And then they hit the adult
- 24:24Speaker 11: world and they realized that they're coworkers, really don't care
- 24:27Speaker 11: about what happened to them over the weekend, that they
- 24:32Speaker 11: they can't build up, you know, five hundred friends on
- 24:35Speaker 11: Facebook anymore and feel like something really big is happening
- 24:39Speaker 11: to me. So the ordinary disappointment of adulthood that we
- 24:42Speaker 11: all have, they kicked in. You know that that girl
- 24:46Speaker 11: you were so in love with, well she she went
- 24:48Speaker 11: off with someone else. You didn't get into that that
- 24:52Speaker 11: that that law school that you really wanted to go to. Hey,
- 24:55Speaker 11: it happened to everyone, But they have these false expectations
- 25:00Speaker 11: because those phones were feeding them a false universe of
- 25:05Speaker 11: false expectations. So here we are. And the gen z
- 25:10Speaker 11: ers they're a little different because you don't have people
- 25:13Speaker 11: telling them you're special, you're millennials, you're you're amazing. But
- 25:18Speaker 11: they still have all the all the social media stuff,
- 25:21Speaker 11: I mean the TikTok. They spend hours on TikTok watching
- 25:25Speaker 11: those idiotic videos. They they're still texting and communicating with
- 25:34Speaker 11: friends twenty twenty four to seven sometimes. And now we're
- 25:38Speaker 11: seeing the fruits of it all. I mean, American kids
- 25:42Speaker 11: on international tests, we're way down the list right at
- 25:48Speaker 11: this point. I mean, we got a top ten percent.
- 25:51Speaker 11: They're doing amazingly as usual. You know, they're the ones
- 25:54Speaker 11: who are gonna gonna, you know, go up the road
- 25:57Speaker 11: from where you are. They'll go to Yale, they'll go
- 26:00Speaker 11: down to NYU. But when you get out of that
- 26:04Speaker 11: top ten percent, BOYD, does it go down quickly, so
- 26:07Speaker 11: that the average American kid doesn't read any books, doesn't
- 26:11Speaker 11: really track newspapers magazines, doesn't really know very much history,
- 26:17Speaker 11: doesn't know enough much about our country, the civics, the
- 26:20Speaker 11: US constitution, and it's it's well, we'll see what happened
- 26:25Speaker 11: with We'll see if the Trump election really signifies something deeper,
- 26:32Speaker 11: if this does mean a broad change in things like
- 26:38Speaker 11: getting education back to the basics and away from social issues,
- 26:43Speaker 11: and if maybe a new patriotism't comes along, we'll see is.
- 26:48Speaker 1: This reversible, professor, or is this something that's being cemented
- 26:53Speaker 1: in the ground, and this generation and future generations will
- 26:57Speaker 1: be caught in this ugliness because I know you know this,
- 27:00Speaker 1: but AI is a remarkable tool. If it's used properly,
- 27:05Speaker 1: these kids can learn at a rate that you know,
- 27:08Speaker 1: our generation and prior generations could never have learned at
- 27:12Speaker 1: this kind of a rate.
- 27:13Speaker 11: Oh oh, it is the tools. The tools are all
- 27:16Speaker 11: there for seventeen year old So we just got to
- 27:19Speaker 11: remember what do seventeen year olds care about other seventeen
- 27:23Speaker 11: year old good point that they want to know what's
- 27:26Speaker 11: going on with their peers. I mean, high school for
- 27:30Speaker 11: a lot of them is just a raucous place, and
- 27:34Speaker 11: social media is a way to kind of manage, you know,
- 27:39Speaker 11: the anxieties of adolescents. The problem is they're not spending
- 27:44Speaker 11: their time in those years getting the tools to help
- 27:48Speaker 11: them handle real life out in the real world. They're
- 27:54Speaker 11: not We're not giving them, you know, good books and
- 27:57Speaker 11: good movies and good good hero those good role models.
- 28:01Speaker 11: I mean, do we want them acting like NFL players
- 28:04Speaker 11: when they score a touchdown? You know, come on, good good,
- 28:08Speaker 11: good sportsmanship. Do we want them to do? We want
- 28:12Speaker 11: them to behave like our celebrities. You know, the more
- 28:16Speaker 11: we learn about them, the ick year it gets. Do
- 28:20Speaker 11: we do We no, No, But that's what they're That's
- 28:23Speaker 11: what's that they're doing, that mass culture and they we
- 28:28Speaker 11: want them to learn about you know what, what what
- 28:31Speaker 11: happened to Gettysburg? We want them to learn about you know,
- 28:36Speaker 11: why was why was Teddy Roosevelt a hero? We we
- 28:40Speaker 11: want them to have great, great love stories and great
- 28:44Speaker 11: stories of sacrifice, and to improve their their language a
- 28:51Speaker 11: little bit. I mean Gettysburg, read the Gettysburg address. Look
- 28:55Speaker 11: look at how beautiful that language is. Get some of
- 28:58Speaker 11: that in your own instead of like like, likelike, and
- 29:01Speaker 11: all the f words everywhere that you hear whenever you're
- 29:04Speaker 11: on a bus, as happens to me all the time.
- 29:08Speaker 11: So we're we're not giving the young again the materials
- 29:15Speaker 11: of maturity. And I do worry that it's irreversible. Yeah,
- 29:20Speaker 11: because you know, traditions, the American heritage got to be
- 29:25Speaker 11: passed down from one generation to the next, or it
- 29:28Speaker 11: can be lost can be lost. So I'm tend toward
- 29:33Speaker 11: the pessimism, but I hope I'm wrong.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Professor Mark bauer Line is joining us. He's got to
- 29:37Speaker 1: book out the dumbest generation, and he's got to follow
- 29:40Speaker 1: up to that, so you can find that wherever our
- 29:43Speaker 1: good books are sold. You know what is scary to me?
- 29:46Speaker 1: I think the scariest thing for me. And this may
- 29:48Speaker 1: be a little bit off of the beaten path, and
- 29:51Speaker 1: maybe it's even a little bit misogynistic, but I'm appalled
- 29:55Speaker 1: by the way the young women act on social media,
- 29:58Speaker 1: the blatant, in your face sexuality they become men in
- 30:04Speaker 1: some cases.
- 30:05Speaker 11: How they how they dressed. I find that, you know,
- 30:08Speaker 11: there was there was a perverse form of feminism that said,
- 30:13Speaker 11: what is freedom for women is we can be as raunchy,
- 30:19Speaker 11: as gross, as vulgar as young boys are. And that,
- 30:26Speaker 11: you know, forgets the uh the old way in which, yes,
- 30:32Speaker 11: boys can be stupid and gross and vulgar. And one
- 30:34Speaker 11: of the ways in which boys got better was girls
- 30:40Speaker 11: said you're not going to be able to kiss me
- 30:43Speaker 11: unless you get your act together. I'm not going to
- 30:46Speaker 11: go to bed with you if you're a guy who
- 30:49Speaker 11: doesn't look like he's going anywhere moving forward. See, the
- 30:55Speaker 11: romance used to be a means. I mean, women had
- 30:58Speaker 11: the power know and that the men, you know, they
- 31:03Speaker 11: wanted it, and so you know, they they had to
- 31:06Speaker 11: show a little bit that they are deserving of egg. Well,
- 31:11Speaker 11: one of the side effects with the sexual revolution was
- 31:14Speaker 11: that demand just went away. And certainly the old ideals,
- 31:19Speaker 11: you know, show a little chastity here, Uh, the be
- 31:23Speaker 11: a little bit selective in who you who you sleep with.
- 31:27Speaker 11: Don't start running up big numbers please.
- 31:30Speaker 9: Uh.
- 31:31Speaker 11: That's that's for a lot a lot of girls. That
- 31:35Speaker 11: that went away. And I think it's I think it's regrettable.
- 31:40Speaker 11: And I think what I'm seeing now is a lot
- 31:42Speaker 11: of nostalgia going on for older times when things did
- 31:51Speaker 11: seem uh, they no longer seem like, oh those old days,
- 31:55Speaker 11: they were so repressive. You know, public life was nicer
- 32:01Speaker 11: back back then. People people behaved in a little more
- 32:05Speaker 11: respectful way. I mean, I was on I'm in Boston,
- 32:09Speaker 11: I was on the tee yesterday. A girl got on
- 32:12Speaker 11: and she was yelling into her cell phone. She was
- 32:15Speaker 11: on FaceTime yelling every other every other sentence was an
- 32:19Speaker 11: F word or the S word, and there was no
- 32:23Speaker 11: I mean, everyone just sort of sat there, My goodness,
- 32:27Speaker 11: can can we can we have a polite public square
- 32:34Speaker 11: a little bit? But no one told her. She's never
- 32:38Speaker 11: been told you can't act this way in public.
- 32:42Speaker 6: Stop this.
- 32:43Speaker 11: But I I think that well, I don't know how
- 32:48Speaker 11: much it's happening, but a lot of people going back
- 32:52Speaker 11: to earlier time, you know, in their imaginations at least,
- 32:57Speaker 11: and trying to reach some of those little bitty older virtues.
- 33:03Speaker 11: These kids were mistakenly discredited. Yeah, in the last twenty
- 33:08Speaker 11: thirty years, forty years.
- 33:09Speaker 1: All right, we are talking to Professor Mark bauer Line
- 33:13Speaker 1: about education and where we're headed in this crazy world
- 33:17Speaker 1: of AI and technology and how it all sort of
- 33:21Speaker 1: comes together. We'll take a short break.
- 33:22Speaker 4: We'll keep them over until the next segment, so stick
- 33:25Speaker 4: around for that more with Professor Mark bower Line right
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- 36:48Speaker 4: Right now, our guest is Professor Mark bauer Line, and
- 36:52Speaker 4: we're talking about education and where we were headed, where
- 36:55Speaker 4: we bend and everything in between.
- 36:57Speaker 1: So, Professor Adnam, know how old you are. I'm late fifties.
- 37:01Speaker 1: And my friendships were forged by personal relationships, right. We
- 37:05Speaker 1: did stuff together, high school kids, great school kids. We
- 37:09Speaker 1: did things, we had memories, We jumped our bikes, we
- 37:12Speaker 1: ran around, we threw the ball around, whatever it was.
- 37:14Speaker 4: But we forged a relationship from real activities. I feel
- 37:21Speaker 4: like these kids don't have any of that. How are
- 37:23Speaker 4: they even making real friends?
- 37:27Speaker 11: I think there's there's a certain shallowness to their social
- 37:30Speaker 11: relationships because the phone intervened all the time. I mean,
- 37:35Speaker 11: the funny thing about this is being able to make
- 37:38Speaker 11: social contact at any time and in any place, being
- 37:42Speaker 11: able to go into your room, which used to be
- 37:44Speaker 11: a private space when I got home. I'm sixty five
- 37:48Speaker 11: years old. When I got home in nineteen seventy five
- 37:51Speaker 11: and crossed the threshold, social life was over at home.
- 37:55Speaker 11: There was there was a rotary landline, as it's now called,
- 37:58Speaker 11: in the kitchen that that wasn't going to give me
- 38:01Speaker 11: much much social context. Social life ended, and that didn't
- 38:05Speaker 11: begin again until I went back to school the next morning.
- 38:09Speaker 11: Who went outside and played the next morning? Now all
- 38:13Speaker 11: the time social media. You can go into your bedroom
- 38:16Speaker 11: and shut out your parents and your siblings and open
- 38:21Speaker 11: up to all your friends at all times. Now, look,
- 38:24Speaker 11: it's it's like, you know, it's like uh huh. When
- 38:28Speaker 11: you've got food on the table all the time, your
- 38:33Speaker 11: your relationship with food becomes kind of meaningless or actually distorted.
- 38:38Speaker 1: Right.
- 38:38Speaker 11: So the the the abundance, that's not that's not good.
- 38:45Speaker 11: Too much. You need you need downtime. You need to
- 38:47Speaker 11: get away that don't make the meaningful things more more
- 38:51Speaker 11: meaningful with your friends and as you said, you experience
- 38:56Speaker 11: things real experience together, it's not virtual experience all the time.
- 39:02Speaker 1: So who holds the brunt of this? How much of
- 39:04Speaker 1: the responsibilities on the parrot? How much is on the teacher.
- 39:07Speaker 11: Well, here's what's happening. More and more school district and
- 39:14Speaker 11: even states are banning cell phones from school public schools.
- 39:19Speaker 11: The state of Arkansas, they're done. New York City public
- 39:23Speaker 11: schools for next semester. Cell phones banned LA school District.
- 39:29Speaker 11: You're seeing it happen more and more that they're realizing
- 39:34Speaker 11: these cell phones in schools. I mean, kids spend a
- 39:37Speaker 11: lot of time in schools. You know, one hundred and
- 39:39Speaker 11: eighty five days a year, you know, seven or eight
- 39:41Speaker 11: hours a day. Those cell phones. First of all, they're pernicious.
- 39:49Speaker 11: If you look at disciplinary problems, you know, fights between kids.
- 39:53Speaker 11: Go look and see how much of it started with
- 39:56Speaker 11: social media posts. How much of it did the phone
- 40:00Speaker 11: m aggravate until you had violence break out. Also, it's
- 40:04Speaker 11: a distraction from from from the learning, and and you
- 40:08Speaker 11: know you want to say, hey, teacher, look at me,
- 40:10Speaker 11: you know, get get off that damn thing. So the
- 40:14Speaker 11: banning is happening, and what you're going to find is
- 40:17Speaker 11: a lot of kids, you know, going going crazy over this,
- 40:21Speaker 11: which shows how much it's needed. But also you're not
- 40:23Speaker 11: going to find any school stake. Oh we made a
- 40:26Speaker 11: terrible mistake. The phones were great, Let's go back to them.
- 40:29Speaker 11: They're going to get rid of the phone more and
- 40:31Speaker 11: more places. It's going to happen. And I think teachers
- 40:36Speaker 11: are applauding this like crazy.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Right, and parents sometimes in these cases though I've been reading,
- 40:41Speaker 1: they've been upset that they're taking the phones away from
- 40:44Speaker 1: the kids. Have you seen that.
- 40:45Speaker 11: Oh Oh my gosh, if a shooter comes into the school,
- 40:48Speaker 11: I need to be in touch with my kids. I
- 40:49Speaker 11: mean there's there's an alarm right that goes with that,
- 40:52Speaker 11: and you want to stay to them. Golly gee, I
- 40:55Speaker 11: wonder how we ever got by as parents before our
- 40:57Speaker 11: kids had cell phone. I mean, that's just come on, parents,
- 41:03Speaker 11: You've got you got way risk and benefit right here,
- 41:07Speaker 11: Risk and the benefit is both way. On the banning.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Side, Professor, Where can folks find more out about you?
- 41:14Speaker 11: Well, you know Amazon. You can go type my name,
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- 41:21Speaker 11: come up. I also do a podcast at First Things
- 41:23Speaker 11: magazine talking about books. Just ww First Things dot com.
- 41:28Speaker 11: Happy to have some of your listeners join us.
- 41:29Speaker 1: Sounds good, Professor, I appreciate it very much. We'll talk
- 41:32Speaker 1: for sure down the road. But go out there and
- 41:34Speaker 1: grab that book. All right.
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