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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back to the deep dive. You know, today feels
- 0:02a little different. Usually we're taking you through history or
- 0:05maybe unpacking a complex piece of legislation from you know,
- 0:09a thirty thousand foot view.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at the big picture.
- 0:12Speaker 1: But today we're zooming all the way in. We are
- 0:16landing right in the middle of a developing story on
- 0:20a specific patch of high desert earth on a very
- 0:23specific date.
- 0:25Speaker 2: It is Thursday, January twenty two, twenty twenty six. And
- 0:29the reason we are doing this today, I mean, the
- 0:32reason we basically scrapped our whole planned episode to record
- 0:34this one is because the news just shifted right underneath
- 0:37our feet on a.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Case that I think a lot of you have been
- 0:40following with just a pit in your stomach for sure.
- 0:42We're talking about the investigation into the death of Malika Boone.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Her family called her Molly. She was eight years old.
- 0:48Speaker 1: And while the headlines have been reporting, you know, the
- 0:51tragedy of her death on the Navajoa Nation, something just
- 0:53happened this morning that changes the entire texture of this conversation.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Yeah, the FBI Phoenix Field Office, working with the Navajo
- 1:00Nation Police, just announced a major.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Development a twenty five thousand dollars reward.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Right. And on the surface, you see that little banner
- 1:07on the news, twenty five thousand dollars a reward offered,
- 1:10you might just think, okay, that's that standard procedure. But
- 1:14our mission today is to look past that headline. We
- 1:17really want to understand the mechanics of why that reward
- 1:20was offered now, you know, exactly one week after she
- 1:23was found.
- 1:23Speaker 1: And we want to understand the geography of this place,
- 1:26coal Mine, Arizona, where this all happened.
- 1:28Speaker 2: And we really really need to unpack the incredibly complex
- 1:32and frankly often frustrating legal web that decides how justice
- 1:37is even pursued on tribal lands exactly.
- 1:39Speaker 1: This is not just a true crime story. We are
- 1:41not here to speculate on suspects or you know, play
- 1:44Internet detective. No, we are here to look at the system.
- 1:47This case is a breaking case study in the crisis
- 1:51of violence that affects indigenous communities. It's crash course in
- 1:54the Major Crimes Act of eighteen eighty five. Wow, and
- 1:57it's a real time look at whether these new tools
- 2:00we've put in place, like the Turquoise Alert, are actually working.
- 2:03Speaker 2: We have a whole stack of sources in front of us.
- 2:05We're looking at the official press releases from the FBI,
- 2:09community statements from the Navajo Nation Police, and some of
- 2:12the investigative reports around this whole Justice for Molly initiative.
- 2:16So let's get into it.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with the timeline, because to really get
- 2:20the significance of today's news, you have to understand the
- 2:22last seven days.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Okay, Section one that the timeline of a tragedy. And
- 2:27the first thing that just it just hits you when
- 2:30you lay this out chronologically is the speed. I mean
- 2:33sometimes we cover these cases where a disappearance can stretch
- 2:37on for weeks, months, even years.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:39Speaker 2: The not knowing is the culture exactly. The ambiguity is
- 2:41the torture. But here the timeline is so compressed, it's sharp,
- 2:45it's it's violent.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So take us there. Thursday, January fifteenth, twenty twenty six.
- 2:50What's the scene.
- 2:51Speaker 2: We're in the coal Mine community. If you look it
- 2:54up on a map, you might see coal Mine Canyon.
- 2:56It's in Naoho County, Arizona. It's the high desert, beautiful country. Oh,
- 2:59it's stunningly beautiful. You know, red earth, stage brush, these
- 3:02massive open skies. But it is profoundly rural.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Okay, So when you say rural, paint that picture for us,
- 3:09because someone listening might be imagining, I don't know a
- 3:12small town in Iowa with the main street.
- 3:15Speaker 2: It's not that at all. It's not a main street
- 3:17with a general store. The housing there, specifically these Navajo
- 3:21Housing Authority or NHA developments, they're built in clusters. So
- 3:26you have a group of single family homes built pretty
- 3:28close together. Okay, but then that whole cluster is just
- 3:31surrounded by vast open fields, deep arroyos, dirt roads. It's
- 3:36a landscape of sort of isolation that's punctuated by these
- 3:40really tight knit family groups.
- 3:41Speaker 1: So on that Thursday, January fifteenth, what is eight year
- 3:45old Molly doing.
- 3:46Speaker 2: She's doing what kids in coal Mine do every single day.
- 3:49She's at a relative's house. It's a late afternoon, about
- 3:51four one five pm, and she leaves that house to
- 3:54walk back to her own home.
- 3:55Speaker 1: I want to pause right there, because this is a
- 3:57really crucial piece of context, an eight year old walking
- 3:59up I think there is a tendency for people outside
- 4:02of these communities to hear that and immediately jump to judgments.
- 4:05Oh absolutely, they think, well where were the parents? Why
- 4:08was she by herself?
- 4:09Speaker 2: And that is just a fundamental misunderstanding of the cultural
- 4:12and the physical geography here. I mean in these Naha clusters,
- 4:17extended families live right on top of each other, but
- 4:20in a good way. You have aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins
- 4:25all living within shouting distance or you know, just a
- 4:27short walk away. It's a communal way of life.
- 4:30Speaker 1: It's a village.
- 4:31Speaker 2: It is a village. And for a child to walk
- 4:33from an ant's house to her own house is not
- 4:35some act of negligence. It is the absolute fabric of
- 4:39daily life. It is as normal as breathing.
- 4:41Speaker 1: She knew the route, She's probably walked it hundreds of times.
- 4:44Speaker 2: One hundred times exactly. She is comfortable in her environment,
- 4:47this is her home. So four one five pm she
- 4:50heads out. The sun is starting to get a little lower,
- 4:52you know, that golden hour in the desert.
- 4:54Speaker 1: But she doesn't make it home.
- 4:55Speaker 2: She doesn't. And this is the next really critical point
- 4:58in the timeline. The family realizes this almost immediately, by
- 5:02six point zero pm the report is filed.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Wow, that is incredibly fast. That's what less than two
- 5:08hours from the time she left.
- 5:10Speaker 2: It is so fast and it just completely dismantles another
- 5:14one of those horrible stereotypes we often have to fight
- 5:16against in these cases, this idea that maybe there's neglect
- 5:20or that the families aren't paying close attention. Yeah, this
- 5:22family knew her routine, they knew her pace, they knew
- 5:27how long that walk should take. And when she wasn't there,
- 5:30they didn't just assume she was off playing somewhere. They
- 5:33didn't say, oh, let's wait till the morning. They knew
- 5:35it was. And this is the police phrasing out of character,
- 5:39and they hit the panic button immediately.
- 5:41Speaker 1: So the alarm is raised on the even of January fifteenth.
- 5:44What happens when that.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Paul goes out, Well, the machinery of the state starts
- 5:49to turn. And this is where we really start to
- 5:52see the difference between twenty twenty six and say twenty
- 5:55sixteen or even twenty twenty. Early the next morning, Friday,
- 5:58January sixteenth, the Arizona Department of Public Safety issues a
- 6:02turquoise alert.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack that turqoise alert. Everybody knows what an
- 6:06amber alert is. My phone buzzes, I see a license
- 6:08plate number. What is the Turquoise alert and why is
- 6:11there a separate system.
- 6:12Speaker 2: This is a massive deep dive point. The Turquoise alert
- 6:15was fully implemented in Arizona just last year, in twenty
- 6:18twenty five. It's a direct response to the m MIP
- 6:22crisis missing and murdered Indigenous people. Okay, See, the Amber
- 6:26alert is a fantastic tool, but it has really rigid criteria.
- 6:31To trigger an Amber alert, you usually need a confirmed
- 6:34abduction and this is the key of vehicle description.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Right, look for a white four f one fifty with
- 6:39this license plate exactly.
- 6:40Speaker 2: But what happens in so many of these cases on
- 6:42tribal lands is a child or a woman goes missing
- 6:45and there is no vehicle description. Maybe they were just
- 6:48walking like Molly. Maybe they were taken by someone they
- 6:50knew and no one saw a car.
- 6:52Speaker 1: So under the old rules, those cases just they didn't qualify.
- 6:56Speaker 2: They fell into a silence gap, a deadly silence gap.
- 6:59They didn't meet the criteria for an Amber alert.
- 7:01Speaker 1: So the Turquoise alert is designed to fix that loophole.
- 7:04Speaker 2: It's designed to close it. It allows the authorities to
- 7:08use the exact same technology the phone blasts the highway
- 7:11signs the media urgency, but it's specifically for missing Indigenous
- 7:16persons where there's a clear indication of danger, even if
- 7:19they don't have a license plate number to go on.
- 7:21Speaker 1: And it crosses jurisdictional lines, which I imagine is huge.
- 7:23Speaker 2: It's everything. Yeah, it facilitates that rapid info dissemination across
- 7:28tribal and state lines, which historically was just this huge,
- 7:32frustrating barrier.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Okay, so the alert goes out Friday morning. This isn't
- 7:35just a digital notification, right, We're talking boots on the ground.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Oh, it's a full scale mobilization. You have the Navajo
- 7:40Nation Police they're leading the charge. But because of the
- 7:43nature of the disappearance of a child, you have the
- 7:47FBI Phoenix Field Office stepping in almost immediately, and others too. Yeah,
- 7:52the US Marshalls are there. The Cocino County Sheriff's Office
- 7:55sends in their search.
- 7:56Speaker 1: And rescue teams, and that bringing all the tech.
- 7:58Speaker 2: They are swarming the area. We've got drones overhead mapping
- 8:01everything out, ground penetrating tools, canine units. They are combing
- 8:05through those arroyos. I mentioned every inch of that terrain.
- 8:08Speaker 1: But despite all that speed, and I want to stress again,
- 8:11this was a fast response. It ends in tragedy.
- 8:15Speaker 2: It does. The search concludes at eight thirty am on Friday,
- 8:19January sixteenth, So let's.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Do the math on that. She leaves at four point
- 8:22one point five pm Thursday, she's found at eight thirty
- 8:26am Friday. That's what roughly sixteen seventeen hours.
- 8:30Speaker 2: It's less than a day under seventeen hours from the
- 8:32moment she disappeared. Mollie was found deceased in a field
- 8:36within the coal mine neighborhood.
- 8:38Speaker 1: And that detail about the location within the neighborhood that
- 8:41really stands out to me.
- 8:43Speaker 2: It's the detail that just chills you to the bone.
- 8:45She wasn't found miles and miles away, lost out in
- 8:47the deep desert. She was found remarkably close to her
- 8:50she was last seen.
- 8:51Speaker 1: So what does that proximity tell you as an investigator.
- 8:54Speaker 2: It tells a story. It strongly suggests she was intercepted.
- 8:58It suggests the danger wasn't so distant threat, it was immediate.
- 9:02It was local, and it happened right there and what
- 9:04should have been the safe zone between family houses.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Which brings us to today's news. Section two decoding the
- 9:10investigation because finding her was the end of the search,
- 9:14but it was really just the beginning of the case, right.
- 9:16Speaker 2: And for the last week, since Friday the sixteenth, there's
- 9:19been a heavy official silence. The authorities lockdown information to
- 9:24protect the integrity of the crime scene and the investigations
- 9:26standard procedure totally. But today, January twenty second, the damn broke.
- 9:31We got that announcement of the twenty five thousand dollars reward.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And this is where I want to really lean on
- 9:36your expertise. We read the press release. The FBI is
- 9:39offering this money for information leading to the arrest and conviction.
- 9:43Why is that specific phrasing so important?
- 9:46Speaker 2: That phrase is everything? Look, as of right now, the
- 9:49autopsy results have not been released to the public. We
- 9:51don't officially know the cause of death. But that phrase
- 9:54arresting conviction, that is a signal fire.
- 9:57Speaker 1: How so what is it signaling?
- 9:59Speaker 2: Well, if the authorities thought this was a tragic accident,
- 10:02you know, if they thought she fell into an arroyo
- 10:04or got lost and succumbed to hypothermia, you don't offer
- 10:08a bounty for a conviction, right, there's no one to
- 10:11convict exactly. You don't mobilize the homicide division. By using
- 10:15that very specific legal language. The FBI is telling the public,
- 10:20and more importantly, they're telling the perpetrator, we know this
- 10:24wasn't an accident. We know someone did this, and we
- 10:27are actively hunting for them.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Yes, so they are one hundred percent treating this as
- 10:31a homicide, even if they haven't used the word murder
- 10:33on camera yet.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Precisely, they are signaling an active suspicious death investigation. It
- 10:39is a homicide case until proven otherwise.
- 10:42Speaker 1: And alongside the reward, they released her victim profile again,
- 10:45and they didn't just say, you know, call us if
- 10:47you know anything. They gave very very specific details about
- 10:51her and what she was wearing.
- 10:52Speaker 2: They're trying to trigger a memory. Witness recollection is such
- 10:55a fragile thing, right If I just asked you, hey,
- 10:57did you see a kid walking around last Thursday? Hm hmm,
- 11:00You'll probably say I don't know, maybe I see kids
- 11:03all the time. But the FBI released this. Mollie was
- 11:05four foot five, fifty to sixty pounds, brown eyes and
- 11:10long brown hair, worn in French braids and clothes. The
- 11:13clothes are so specific, a red jacket, blue jeans and
- 11:17cowboy boots.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Why do those particular details matter so much.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Because distinct visuals stick in our subconscious A bright red
- 11:25jacket against the muted tones of the desert earth that
- 11:28stands out.
- 11:29Speaker 1: It's a pop of color.
- 11:30Speaker 2: It's a pop of color. Cowboy boots on a little girl.
- 11:33That's a specific silhouette, a specific image. They are hoping
- 11:37that someone who is just driving through coal Mine, or
- 11:39someone who glanced out their window at that time, might
- 11:42have seen a flash of red and.
- 11:43Speaker 1: They might not have even processed it at the time.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Not at all, but hearing red jacket a week later
- 11:49might just snap that little puzzle piece into place. It's
- 11:52about creating an anchor for a memory that someone doesn't
- 11:54even know they have.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about the money itself. Twenty five thousand dollars.
- 11:58That's a significant amount of money for anyone. But I imagine,
- 12:01especially in a rural community like this one, what's the
- 12:04strategy behind the cash.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just about appealing to greed, it's about
- 12:08overcoming fear. We have to be really honest about small
- 12:12town dynamics. Coal Mine is a place where everybody.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Knows everybody, which implies that the killer could be could
- 12:19be someone everybody knows.
- 12:20Speaker 2: That is the terrifying reality of these cases. And if
- 12:23you saw something suspicious, I mean, maybe you saw your
- 12:26neighbor's truck where it shouldn't have been, or you saw
- 12:28a cousin acting really strange that night, you might be
- 12:31terrified to speak up.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Of course, you have to live there, You.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Have to live there. You fear retaliation, you fear being ostracized,
- 12:38being labeled to snitch. Your family has to live there.
- 12:41Speaker 1: So the money is like an Eskate Hatch, an incentive
- 12:45to overcome that.
- 12:46Speaker 2: In a sense. Yeah, it's a powerful incentive that can
- 12:49outweigh the fear of social or even physical retaliation. But
- 12:54was just as important as the money is the promise
- 12:57of anonymity. Right, the FBI is pushing one eight hundred
- 13:00call FBI so hard. They're saying, look, you don't have
- 13:03to walk into the local tribal police station where your
- 13:06neighbor's cousin might be working the front desk and see you.
- 13:08You can call this faceless federal number give the tip.
- 13:13You can still be eligible for the reward, and no
- 13:15one in coal mine ever ever has to know it
- 13:18was you.
- 13:18Speaker 1: It's a tool specifically designed to break that code of
- 13:21silence exactly.
- 13:23Speaker 2: And they keep emphasizing that no detail is too small.
- 13:27You know, a car that seemed out of place, a
- 13:29person who was acting jittery at the gas station in
- 13:31Tuba City later that night. So often the thing that
- 13:35breaks a homicide case isn't some smoking gun confession. It's
- 13:38a tiny, weird detail that only makes sense when an
- 13:41investigator adds it to the other pieces of evidence they
- 13:44already have.
- 13:45Speaker 1: This all brings us to section three, which I think
- 13:47is probably the most confusing part of this for the
- 13:49average person watching from the outside.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Jurisdiction, the jurisdictional maze.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Yeah, we keep mentioning the Navajo Nation police and the FBI.
- 13:57Usually when a crime happens in a town, the local police.
- 14:00Why is the Federal Bureau of Investigation the lead agency
- 14:03on the tragic death of an eight year old girl
- 14:05in rural Arizona.
- 14:07Speaker 2: This is where we have to put on our history
- 14:08hats for a minute. And this takes us all the
- 14:10way back to eighteen eighty five.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Eighteen eighty five, that is, that's archaic. That can't be right.
- 14:15Speaker 2: It is we are talking about the major crimes Act.
- 14:18This is a federal law passed in the nineteenth century
- 14:21that still dictates the reality of justice in Indian country today.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Okay, give us the breakdown.
- 14:26Speaker 2: What does it say? The Major Crimes Act essentially says
- 14:29that for certain specified major crimes, and this includes murder, manslaughter,
- 14:35sexual assault, arts, and a whole list, if they are
- 14:39committed by or against Native Americans on reservation land, the
- 14:43federal government has jurisdiction.
- 14:45Speaker 1: So it completely bypasses the state level. The State of
- 14:47Arizona police have no say here.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Almost none. It's not their case. If a murder happens
- 14:52in say, downtown Phoenix, it's the Phoenix pde and the
- 14:55State of Arizona prosecutors who handle it. If a murder
- 14:58happens in coal mine on the Navajon Nation, it instantly
- 15:01becomes a federal case.
- 15:02Speaker 1: That seems like it would create a massive logistical nightmare.
- 15:05Speaker 2: It creates what legal scholars and frankly, tribal police call
- 15:09the jurisdictional maze. You have the Navajo Nation police or
- 15:13the first responders. They know the people, they know the land,
- 15:15they know the culture, right, they're the local experts they are.
- 15:18But then you have the FBI flying in from Phoenix
- 15:21to take the lead on the investigation because of the
- 15:24severity of the potential crime as defined by this eighteen
- 15:28eighty five.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Law, and historically that handoff between tribal police and the
- 15:32FEDS hasn't always been smooth.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Not smooth is putting it very very lightly. Historically it
- 15:38has been a disaster. In some cases, you've had turf wars,
- 15:41you've had critical delays while agencies argued over who is
- 15:45in charge. You've had evidence lost in the shuffle between departments.
- 15:48Speaker 1: But what are you seeing in Molly's case.
- 15:51Speaker 2: In this specific case, it seems like the coordination was
- 15:54actually very tight. The public statements are all joint statements.
- 15:58It seems the Navajo Nation police secured the scene and
- 16:01the FBI Phoenix Field Office was integrated immediately. It looks
- 16:04like the partnerships, at least on the surface, are working
- 16:07much better than they used to.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the geography itself as a factor
- 16:11in this investigation, because unless you've actually driven through the
- 16:14Navajo Nation, you cannot comprehend the sheer size of it.
- 16:17Speaker 2: It's the largest reservation in the United States. It's over
- 16:20twenty seven thousand square miles.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Give me a comparison for that. What's that The size of.
- 16:24Speaker 2: That is bigger than the entire state of West Virginia. Wow,
- 16:27it spans parts of Arizona, New Mexico, and Utah. Now,
- 16:31imagine trying to police the entire state of West Virginia
- 16:36with a police force that is a tiny fraction of
- 16:38the size of a standard metropolitan police department.
- 16:41Speaker 1: That's an impossible task.
- 16:43Speaker 2: It's a challenge of physics. It's just simple math. When
- 16:46a call comes in from a remote place like coal Mine,
- 16:49you have to understand coal Mine is about seventeen or
- 16:51eighteen miles from Tuba City, which is the nearest hub.
- 16:55Speaker 1: And those aren't highway miles, no, not at all.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Those are rural roads, some of them are dirt. Response
- 17:00times are dictated by distance and terrain. An officer could
- 17:03be an hour away on another call and.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Coal Mine itself. We talked about the isolation.
- 17:08Speaker 2: It's incredibly isolated. Yeah, low population density. People live there
- 17:12because they value that privacy, that connection to the land,
- 17:15the space. But for a criminal investigation, it is a
- 17:19nightmare because there are no CCTV cameras on the corner
- 17:22of every street. There are no ring doorbells on every porch,
- 17:25capturing traffic going by. The witnesses in a lot of
- 17:28these areas are the sagebrush and the sky.
- 17:31Speaker 1: So the FDI is essentially working in a digital evidence
- 17:34vacuum compared to a city crime a huge.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Acrum, yes, which makes human intelligence. Those witness tips we
- 17:40were talking about so much more critical. They're not just important,
- 17:44they are everything.
- 17:45Speaker 1: We can't talk about this case without zooming out, So
- 17:47section four the broader context. Molly Boone is an individual,
- 17:51a devastating, tragic loss, but she is also, unfortunately part
- 17:56of a pattern.
- 17:56Speaker 2: She is a data point in the m MIP crisis
- 17:59missing and Indigenous people, or you'll hear the acronym MMIWG
- 18:04missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls.
- 18:07Speaker 1: We hear those acronyms a lot now, which is good
- 18:09for awareness, but what do the numbers actually tell us?
- 18:11Speaker 2: The statistics are just harrowing. Study after study shows that
- 18:15Indigenous women and children face violence at rates significantly higher
- 18:19than the national average. And while Native children might make
- 18:22up a small percentage of the total number of missing
- 18:25kids in the US, just because of population size.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Their per capita risk is higher.
- 18:30Speaker 2: Their risk of going missing or being murdered is elevated.
- 18:33It's disproportionately high.
- 18:34Speaker 1: And that risk is directly tied to everything we've just
- 18:37been discussing, the rural isolation, the jurisdictional confusion.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Absolutely, predators know this. They're not stupid. They know where
- 18:44the gaps in the system are. They know that if
- 18:46they commit a crime and a remote part of the reservation,
- 18:48the police might be an hour away. They know that
- 18:51this confusion between federal and tribal authority can buy them
- 18:54precious time to get away.
- 18:55Speaker 1: However, I want to look at a slightly different angle here.
- 18:58We so often cover these stories and the theme is
- 19:01always systemic failure. The police didn't come, the report wasn't
- 19:05taken seriously, nobody seemed to care.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Right. That is the historical narrative, and it is a
- 19:09brutally true narrative for thousands of families. We've talked about
- 19:13missing White woman syndrome before, where the media and law
- 19:16enforcement poor resources into one case while completely ignoring indigenous victims.
- 19:21Speaker 1: But here, in this case.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Here we saw a shift, and I think it is
- 19:25really important to acknowledge it when we see it. The
- 19:27response to Molly's disappearance was by all accounts swift.
- 19:31Speaker 1: The family reported it at six or zero pm, and
- 19:34the system didn't blow them off. They didn't tell them
- 19:36to wait twenty four hours.
- 19:37Speaker 2: No, not at all. They took it with the utmost
- 19:39seriousness from minute one. The turquoise alert went out the
- 19:43very next morning, the FBI was on the ground almost instantly.
- 19:47The reward was posted within a week. This represents a
- 19:50massive and immediate investment of resources.
- 19:53Speaker 1: So it was a system actually getting better mechanically.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Yes, I think it is. The now O Nation has
- 19:58its own m MIR task for now, the Missing and
- 20:01Murdered Indigenous Relatives task for us. In the twenty twenty
- 20:04six fiscal year, they specifically allocated millions of dollars to
- 20:07these efforts. The system is finally trying to build the
- 20:09infrastructure to respond to these crises.
- 20:12Speaker 1: But and this is the butt that just breaks your heart.
- 20:14Speaker 2: It wasn't enough. The system worked perfectly on paper, the
- 20:18family report, the alert, to the multi agency search, the
- 20:21federal reward, it was textbook. But Molly was already gone.
- 20:25Speaker 1: That brings us to the community sentiment. What is the
- 20:28feeling on the ground in coal mine right now?
- 20:30Speaker 2: It's heavy, It's just a heavy, sorrowful weight. I've been
- 20:33reading the community boards, the public statements from local leaders.
- 20:37There is grief, obviously, this profound grief, But underneath it
- 20:42there is also this deep simmering frustration, this feeling of
- 20:46not again.
- 20:46Speaker 1: It must retraumatize the entire community.
- 20:49Speaker 2: It does every single time this happens. It rips open
- 20:52the wounds of every other unsolved case from the last
- 20:55thirty years, and it fundamentally changes the behavior of the community.
- 20:58Parents are terrified. Of course, there were new discussions happening
- 21:02right now on social media and in community meetings about safety,
- 21:05about supervision, about community watchfulness. People are asking this really
- 21:09heartbreaking question, is it still safe for our kids to
- 21:12walk to their ants house?
- 21:14Speaker 1: And that question just asking it fundamentally changes the culture.
- 21:19If you can't walk to your ant's house, the community
- 21:21isn't the same place it was exactly.
- 21:22Speaker 2: It erodes that fundamental trust and freedom that defines life there.
- 21:26And we also have to acknowledge the other factors that
- 21:29contribute to this vulnerability. The economic hardship in some areas,
- 21:33the issues with substance abuse that plague so many rural communities,
- 21:36not just tribal ones, poverty, creates environments where violence confess.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Okay, Section five, let's pivot to the practical. This is
- 21:44an active investigation. The person or people who did this
- 21:47are still out there. How can our listeners, how can
- 21:50the public help?
- 21:51Speaker 2: This is where we need actionable intelligence. If you were
- 21:54in the region, if you were anywhere near coal mine,
- 21:56Tuba City, or the surrounding areas, on or around jail,
- 22:00you're fifteenth.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Give us that contact information again very clearly.
- 22:03Speaker 2: It's one eight hundred and two two two five five
- 22:05three two four, or you can go online to tips
- 22:08dot FBI dot gov.
- 22:10Speaker 1: And I just really want to stress the anonymity part again.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Please, it is so important. If you're listening to this
- 22:16right now and you know something, even something small, but
- 22:20you are scared, maybe you're scared of the person involved,
- 22:23or you're just scared of getting entangled with the legal system,
- 22:26you do not have to give your name.
- 22:28Speaker 1: The tip is the important thing.
- 22:30Speaker 2: The tip is everything. The FBI doesn't need to know
- 22:33who you are, They just need to know what you know,
- 22:36and that reward.
- 22:37Speaker 1: We've talked about it as a tool, but it's also
- 22:39a symbol, isn't it.
- 22:40Speaker 2: It absolutely is putting twenty five thousand dollars on the
- 22:43table is the government's way of publicly stating this matters.
- 22:47It validates the life of this child. It says that
- 22:50justice for Molly Boon is a priority for the United
- 22:53States government, And honestly, seeing that level of valuation and
- 22:57urgency placed on an Indigenous life is a signific again
- 23:00shift from what we might have seen twenty or even
- 23:02ten years ago.
- 23:03Speaker 1: So let's try to wrap this up. We've covered a
- 23:04lot of really heavy ground today.
- 23:06Speaker 2: We have.
- 23:07Speaker 1: It's been tough to summarize for everyone listening. Molly Boone,
- 23:11a bright, loved eight year old girl, vanished during a
- 23:14routine walk in her own community. She was found deceased
- 23:17less than seventeen hours later, tragically close to home.
- 23:20Speaker 2: The investigation is now clearly escalated with a major federal reward,
- 23:25and the very specific language the FBI is using arrest
- 23:28and conviction tells us that they are one hundred percent
- 23:31treating this as a homicide.
- 23:32Speaker 1: And while the systemic response things like the Turquoise alert,
- 23:36the rapid multi agency mobilization was robust.
- 23:40Speaker 2: And by the book, the outcome still highlights this ongoing,
- 23:43terrifying vulnerability of Indigenous.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Children that really is the bottom line. I want to
- 23:47leave everyone with a final thought to chew on, and
- 23:50I'd love your take on this to close us out.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 23:52Speaker 1: We've spent this whole deep dive analyzing the response, and
- 23:56by all accounts, as you said, the response was text book.
- 23:59It was it was coordinated, it was well funded, and
- 24:02yet we're still mourning a child.
- 24:05Speaker 2: It's the haunting paradox of this case.
- 24:07Speaker 1: So my question is this, if the best case scenario
- 24:11for a law enforcement response still results in a tragedy,
- 24:15what are we missing? What's the real problem we're not
- 24:19talking about?
- 24:20Speaker 2: That is the provocative question, isn't it? And it's the
- 24:22right one. I think. For the last decade, the fight
- 24:25has been for better reaction. We wanted better alert systems,
- 24:28we wanted faster police cars, we wanted clearer jurisdiction, and
- 24:32we're starting to get some of those things. But reaction
- 24:35is by its very definition too late. Reaction happens after
- 24:39the abduction, it happens after the violence has already occurred.
- 24:42Speaker 1: So the entire focus has to shift, it.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Has to Yeah, the whole conversation needs to move from
- 24:47how do we find them faster? To how do we
- 24:49prevent them from being taken in the first place. What
- 24:52are the deeper structural changes that are needed within these communities.
- 24:55We're talking about things that don't seem like crime fighting,
- 24:58but they are like what economic development, housing security, mental
- 25:02health and addiction resources, Simple things like street lighting on
- 25:05those NHA roads, safe community centers for kids. How do
- 25:09we build communities that are so strong and so resourced
- 25:12that a predator simply doesn't have the opportunity or the
- 25:15audacity to strike.
- 25:17Speaker 1: We can't police our way out of this crisis, No,
- 25:19you can't.
- 25:20Speaker 2: We need to build a world where the turquoise alert
- 25:23becomes unnecessary, a world where it gathers dust because we
- 25:27never have to use it again.
- 25:28Speaker 1: That is a heavy, but I think a very necessary
- 25:30thought to end on. Thank you for listening to this
- 25:32deep dive. We know this was a difficult one, but
- 25:35understanding the machinery behind the tragedy is I hope, the
- 25:38first step toward that kind of change.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Check the sources for yourselves, read the official reports, think
- 25:43critically about what we discussed.
- 25:44Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Stay curious,