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Psycho-Killer：-Gary-Hilton-—-Interview-With-A-Killer · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: You have a moniker, the National Forest serial killer.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: Oh really, I think I prefer the Beast of Blood Mountain.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: A killer perversely proud of his crimes.
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  Speaker 2: I set the record. I'm the oldest serial killer in
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: American history. Isn't that amazing?
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  Speaker 1: He lurked in the woods, preyed on hiking trails, and
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  Speaker 1: displayed the evil that can be found in the wilderness
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: of a human mind.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your worst nightmare, David Gary.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Michael Hilton is talking about his crimes for the first
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  Speaker 1: time ever.
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  Speaker 2: After ignoring innumerable request from every kind of person in
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: the world. This time to break my silence.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: And he'll be confronted like never before. Now you keep
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: pointing to Rob Ready, But was that just an excuse
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: to torture and kill people?
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: Torture and kill people? Hold on, torture. I didn't torture anybody.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Cannot people chain them up in your car to beat
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: them to death, you rape them. Most people regard that
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: as torture.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: No, no, Now, where are we going with this?
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we're going to the mind of a psychopath.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: A psychopath a void of empathy, mercy or decency, narcissistic, psychotically, So.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: You're nuts, heal them with it.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, you who.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: Now awaiting a death sentence in Florida, Hilton says he's
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: finally ready to come clean.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a news scoop.
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: I did it to him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm confessing to a murder on camera and.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Reveal what really happened to his victims.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: She said something that really grabbed me.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: What she said. It's the last chapter of an American
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  Speaker 1: crime saga. Do you hate women?
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Enough yes, And our last chance to look inside the
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: mind of one of the country's most terrifying serial killers.
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  Speaker 1: You have the power to haunt our dreams, yes, turn
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: them into nightmare. Do you enjoy having that kind.
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: Of power over us?
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: You know, in a perverse kind of way.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: By now, I've come face to face with my share
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: of killers. They've been deranged, troubled, violent, their heinous crimes
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  Speaker 1: defined by a lifetime of hate or a split second
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: of evil. But nothing could have prepared me for the
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: likes of Gary Michael Hilton. New questions an about whether
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: the man accused of killing and decapitating a Georgia hiker
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  Speaker 1: may in fact be a serial killer. In two thousand
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: and seven, at the ripe age of sixty one years old,
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  Speaker 1: Gary Hilton made national headlines by launching a shocking murder
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  Speaker 1: spree in an unexpected crime scene, the sprawling wilderness of
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  Speaker 1: America's national forests. Over four months, he abducted, raped, murdered,
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  Speaker 1: and decapitated unsuspecting hikers, terrifying park visitors across the country.
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  Speaker 1: With Hilton lurking in the woods, no one was safe.
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  Speaker 1: It was like something out of a horror movie. Wearing
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: a makeshift mask, Hilton used his victims atm cards in
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  Speaker 1: the aftermath of each grisly murder. Then in January two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, a massive manhunt led to his capture
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: again that one whilet's take back, okay, get hired.
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  Speaker 2: I have this.
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  Speaker 4: The person of interest in that missing woman case is
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  Speaker 4: at this Chevron gas statue. He's throw himself in the
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  Speaker 4: sulmster here.
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  Speaker 1: I can go take him down if you want.
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  Speaker 2: Old Day right there coughed, yeah, wait for there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hilton's arrest made national news and brought an end to
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  Speaker 1: the carnage.
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  Speaker 5: Cops tracked this guy down and captured him.
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  Speaker 6: Sixty one year old Gary Michael Hilton now sits in
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  Speaker 6: a county jail.
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  Speaker 1: Charge with abducting and killing twenty four year old Meredith
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  Speaker 1: the Emmerson.
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  Speaker 3: The suspect in this case, is also a possible suspect
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  Speaker 3: in other murders.
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  Speaker 1: His interrogation brought into focus a terrifying villain.
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  Speaker 7: Once you'd take him someone, you're either gonna kill them
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  Speaker 7: or are you gonna get caught?
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  Speaker 1: Wickedly intelligent, boastful of his crimes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the one to kill the girl, okay, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: The one to kill, and contemptuous of his victims.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't kill the coast for any satisfaction.
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  Speaker 1: It was distasteful.
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  Speaker 2: It was dreadful, trust me.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I was able to do it because of
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  Speaker 2: my general legy in society.
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  Speaker 1: Cut Horse, cup Horse Hilton pleaded guilty to murdering twenty
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  Speaker 1: four year old Meredith Emerson in Georgia, as well as
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: John and Irene Bryant, an elderly couple in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: He was also tried, convicted, and sentenced to death for
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  Speaker 1: the murder of forty six year old Sheryl Dunlap in Florida,
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  Speaker 1: a crime to which he has never confessed until now. Today,
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  Speaker 1: he awaits execution after more than a decade on Florida's
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  Speaker 1: death Row, but questions remain about Hilton's terrifying rampage, many
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  Speaker 1: only he can answer. At sixty one years old, he
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  Speaker 1: claims he became America's oldest serial killer. What caused him
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  Speaker 1: to snap? Why did he do it? Are there other victims?
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  Speaker 1: Despite all the attention, Hilton has never before spoken to
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  Speaker 1: the media. Okay, so clock starts now ten forty two. Good,
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  Speaker 1: good time, We have exactly sixty minutes. It was my
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  Speaker 1: first interview with a murderer sentenced to die after all
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  Speaker 1: these years. Why did Hilton finally want to talk and
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  Speaker 1: what would he now reveal?
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  Speaker 8: Here?
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  Speaker 1: You are on death row, Yes, talking for the first
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  Speaker 1: time publicly about your crimes.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: We're here today, sir, to try and understand the mindset
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  Speaker 1: and motivations behind your actions in these cases. You're seventy
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: eight years old now, right, Yes? In poor health? You say, yes,
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  Speaker 1: very poor health.
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  Speaker 2: That's one reason I'm doing this because I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: die soon. I have a congestive heart failure. Tell me,
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: in your own words, why are you breaking your silence? Well,
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: you hit it right on the head, and I also
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  Speaker 2: an answer is I don't know. All I can say
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  Speaker 2: is is time. After seventeen years, after ignoring innumerable request
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: from every kind of person in the world, It's time.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: That's the way I feel.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: It's time, after seventeen years, to break my silence.
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  Speaker 1: In our correspondence, he said, I think I'm prepared to
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: give you an interview that's a lollapalooza. It'll knock your
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  Speaker 1: socks off. Yes, I will answer any question, yes, about
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  Speaker 1: any subject, truthfully and completely.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Can I count on you for that?
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  Speaker 2: You sure can?
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  Speaker 1: You said, be prepared to meet a whole different breed
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  Speaker 1: of cat? What breed exactly?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like no one else really, you know,
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  Speaker 2: serial killer.
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  Speaker 1: There are a dime a dozen psychopaths, no sociopath I
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: have part of that in me. In the years since
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: his murder spree, Hilton's infamy has seemingly only grown. He's
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: been the subject of doctors, mentories, and internet lore.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: This is the case of Gary Hilton.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: His crimes spanned three states and millions of acres of
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Christine National Forests and terrorized hikers everywhere. What did you
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: think when the media dubbed you the National Forest serial Killer?
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: I think I prefer the Beast of Blood Mountain, The
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: Beast of Blood Mountain?
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Does that give you a sense of accomplishment? Now bound
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: by chains and shackled to a violent past, Hilton may
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: look different now after twelve years on death row, but
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: he's about to give his first interview ever and open
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  Speaker 1: a window into a mind deranged since childhood.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: From a child, a little child, Oh, I was always
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: fascinated with death and destruction and guns and war as
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  Speaker 2: a child at five six years old, Countly, I've just
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: he's always been fascinated with it.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: Born in Atlanta and raised in Florida by his mother
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  Speaker 1: and stepfather, Hilton's troubled and violent mind was evident as
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  Speaker 1: a teenager. Four minutes into the police interrogation, you call
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  Speaker 1: yourself a sociopath. Do you remember that? He said, I'm
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: a sociopath.
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  Speaker 2: But they call him anti social. That's best the new
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  Speaker 2: name for it, an anti social personality. In my day,
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: it was called a sociopathic character disorder.
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  Speaker 1: Were you diagnosed as As a matter of fact, I
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  Speaker 1: was at age fourteen, Hilton fired a shotgun at his stepfather,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: nearly killing him. Authorities ordered a mental evaluation.
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  Speaker 2: At fourteen, I was seeing the head of the Dade
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  Speaker 2: County Child Goddex Clinic, who was a psychiatrist. I saw
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  Speaker 2: Emperor of a year or two and he just flat
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  Speaker 2: told me, what did he tell you? You have a
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  Speaker 2: sociopathic character disorder.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Hilton had other textbook markers for psychopathy and a condition
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: called paraphilia, an obsession with violent sexual fantasies. You admit
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  Speaker 1: to paraphilia strong, strong, strong.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I am a chiller. I've
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  Speaker 2: had strong paraphilia all my life. When I accidentally discovered
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  Speaker 2: masturbation my paraphilia, as I was doing it for years.
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  Speaker 2: It was a battlefield and they were women nude, and
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  Speaker 2: they were spread over a tree stump, and I would
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  Speaker 2: come along with a sword.
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  Speaker 1: Hilton went on to describe vile acts against women. That's
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  Speaker 1: how you would get off.
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  Speaker 2: This is my birth sexual.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling. His adulthood was marked by a string of failed
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: marriages and short lived jobs, until in middle age he
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: found himself broke, homeless, and alone. But for the pet dogs,
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: he says he fell closer to than any human being.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: You have an odd relationship with dogs. You seem more
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  Speaker 1: bonded with dogs than with the people in your.
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  Speaker 2: Life, and your million times more.
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  Speaker 1: Is that fair? Yeah, you told police. In the wolf
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: world there are no assault in battery laws, there are
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  Speaker 1: no murder laws. Right, imagine such a world where there are.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: No murder laws. Yes, that's the world they live in.
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  Speaker 1: But in reality, in the real world, you're not a wolf,
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  Speaker 1: you're a human being, and she's an innocent stranger. So
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: why kill? Why murder? Meredith Emerson.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. That's a good question. We'll
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  Speaker 2: see answer.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: It's not clear exactly when Gary Hilton decided to start
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  Speaker 1: stalking and killing people, but it is known that for
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: years he frequented national parks in multiple states in his
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: white van, posing as an ordinary hiker. What's doing out here?
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  Speaker 4: We come along?
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  Speaker 1: At some point in his middle age, a lifetime of
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  Speaker 1: madness and failure had pushed him over the edge. Outside
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  Speaker 1: of crime, your life is utterly unremarkable.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. That's a fair A complete abject failure, a
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  Speaker 2: nothing for nobody, who never achieved anything, that never followed
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  Speaker 2: through on anything, who is a failure? And everything except killing?
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  Speaker 2: Well that was that started when I was sixty one.
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  Speaker 1: In January two thousand and eight, Hilton was scouting the
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  Speaker 1: trails of Georgia's Blood Mountain for human prey. He was
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  Speaker 1: armed with a bayonet, a police baton, and a friendly
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  Speaker 1: red retriever named Dandy. Chattahoochee National Forest seven hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty thousand acres of thick woodlands in the North Georgia Mountains.
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  Speaker 1: At what point did you first spot Meredith? Can you remember?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I was coming down off the Blood Mountain Trail
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  Speaker 2: and she was just coming out when she had stopped
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  Speaker 2: and opened up her little collapsible dog bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty four year old Meredith Emerson was hiking with her
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  Speaker 1: dog on that day. The recent University of Georgia graduate
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  Speaker 1: was just settling into a new career and a bright
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  Speaker 1: future when she crossed paths with evil. She fit the profile.
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  Speaker 2: Single definitely good looking, single woman, everything unlikely to.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Resist, or so you thought. You told police that your
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  Speaker 1: mo was to lurk and sometimes watch with the binoculars
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  Speaker 1: from a distance, just like a hundred wood Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Blood Mountain Trail is the most used day high
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  Speaker 2: thing trail in the state of Georgia. So on the
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  Speaker 2: one end, that makes it an excellent hunting crown. On
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  Speaker 2: the other hand, it makes it no good because there's
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: so many witnesses.
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  Speaker 1: You positioned yourself at the intersection of two trails.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was just coming down off the trail and boom,
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  Speaker 2: there she was.
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  Speaker 1: At what point did you decide she was the one
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: you were going to strike.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I'd already decided to intil I saw her.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Closing the distance to Meredith on the trail was easy
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: with the help of Hilton's dog, Dandy. You deploy your
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: unwitting accomplice, Dandy, right, the icebreaker.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't help but not use them. He's
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: so lovable.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: E well, you told police that was part of the strategy.
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  Speaker 2: You see reverse anthropomorphism. Rather than assigning human qualities to
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: an animal, they assign animal qualities to humans. So he's
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: got his laughing, lovable Golden Retriever. He must be okay, right,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: reversed anthwermorphisms.
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  Speaker 1: Some men use dogs to meet women that way. You
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: use your dog to meet victims that way. It worked
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  Speaker 1: on her. Right now, you're walking up towards the summit
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  Speaker 1: on the trail in close proximity. The presence of so
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: many other people in the trail didn't dissuade you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you it should have. I walked up up
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the trail with her for a ways and several people
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  Speaker 2: saw me with her right and as a matter of fact,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: one guy and it turns out that he was law enforcement.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, one guy said, are you with her? And
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I said no, that was bachelor tiling right there.
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  Speaker 1: Moments later, alone with Meredith on the trail, the former
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  Speaker 1: army soldier brandished his bayonet blade and prepared to strike,
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  Speaker 1: but subduing her wouldn't be nearly as easy as he expected.
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  Speaker 1: Meredith Emerson was trained in martial arts and ready for
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the aging maniac. You confront her with the bayonet, she
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  Speaker 1: attacks the weapon.
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  Speaker 2: She shocked me. She had real quick hands and she
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  Speaker 2: grabbed the knifely. She cut her head slightly. Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: the byonet was not sure. She grabbed it and I
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: was so slack, I was like body gagging around. Didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a good firm grip on it, and she twisted
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  Speaker 2: it right out of my hand. So she disarms you,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: but she loses control of the bayonet too. At the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: same time.
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  Speaker 1: Now you know you've badly miscalculated, you resort to your
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: second go to weapon, the police batona.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: And she just were seated to grabb modan and took
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the lad out of my head.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So now you're getting your ass kicked by a girl
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: in the wood.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: No, No, sounds like it, not at all. Really.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I sensed it this moment that pressing Hilton might help
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: reveal just how prideful and heartless he is. To get
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: inside his head, I needed to get under his skin.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: What are you armed?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: She's not?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You have what forty or fifty pounds on her? Not
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: very manly of you, mister Hilton. You pick a week victim.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: An army soldier would call that a punk move.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: No one was there but her and me. And I'm
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: telling you, frankly, even the best.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Of us have bad days.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And no, it wasn't a punk move because she
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: guess what happened? Then after she took the bat, she
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: took the bend. At what happened?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Then you had to hand fight her, you said?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And what happened?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Then you overpowered her? Just barely.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: It sounds like no, not just barely. No, where did
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you get that at? Well?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You said to the police. I had to hand fighter.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I probably have multiple fractures in my right hand. Yes,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I still couldn't get control of her. She would feign
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: or pretend that I was in control and then start
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: fighting again. So I had to hit her a number
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  Speaker 1: of times, straight punches to the face or the head.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Right, But I had control of her. I had her,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: had her with my left hand the whole time. So
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: what happened? I beat her rash?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you this empathy, mercy, decency? Did those
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: ideas ever register with you at all?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yes? I have four different personalities, A soldier, a scientist,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: an artist, and a comedian.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Hilton says he has multiple personalities to which he ascribes
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: four respective professions, though he is qualified in none.
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  Speaker 2: The soldier and asia this they're codally rational, unemotional. The
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: artists concern with the textures and feelings and emotions, and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the comedian wants to let people happy. The soldier personalities
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and is emotionless killed them. I'll let God sort them out.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: That's the soldier mentower.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Is it possible that all that talk about being an
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: army soldier was delusional on your part?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: No, Now, I've been tested too many childs. I've been
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in two too many bites for over twenty years.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Hilton forcibly abducted Meredith Emerson and chained her to the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: chassis inside his white van. While Meredith languished. A massive
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: search was underway to find her. That garnered widespread media attention,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: but the scale of the crime scene, nearly a million
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: acres of Georgia's Chattahoochee National Forest, was daunting. No trace
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: yet of a missing twenty four year old Gwinnette County woman.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: We were there from sun up to sundown.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Meredith Emerson could do anything.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: If anybody can.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Survive this, she can't.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: We haven't found anything here yet.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: The community rallies.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought this would just pass unnoticed, just another
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: hiker missing in the mouse and no big deal. Maybe
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: a paragraph in the paper could agree.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Suddenly the investigation was blown wide open. Police pick up
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a digital trail as Meredith repeatedly sends Hilton to ATM
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: machines with the wrong pin number signaling his location. Hilton
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: is publicly identified as the prime suspect, last seen by witnesses.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: With Meredith Emerson alive, the race is on to rescue
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Meredith and apprehend Hilton.
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: It is going to be a white male between the
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: ages of fifty and sixty years old.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: But the next discovery would change everything.
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: Bobby of mayby four year old Irene and Bryan. It
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: was discovered on November ninth in the North Carolina Woods,
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: and her husband, eighty year old John, is still missing.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: It turns out that Meredith Emerson is not the first
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: person attacked on Hilton's killing spree, only the latest.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You never intended to let her go never.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Now you keep pointing to robbery, but that sure seems
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: like a pretext for what you described as paraphilia. Was
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that just an excuse to torture and kill people?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Now, torture and kill people? Hold on, torture. I didn't
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: torture anybody.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Cannot people chain them up in your car, you beat
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: them to death, you rape them.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Most people would regard that as torture. No, no, no, no.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Where are we going with this?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to the mind of a psychopath.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: A psychopath, a void of a thief, mercy or decency, narcissistic, psychotically.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So your nuts, I'm nuts, Yes, you are nuts?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 23:17
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• 23:22
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• 23:25
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• 23:30
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• 23:32
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• 23:38
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• 23:42
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• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It's on.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: All day above Blood Mountains.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: The State Patrol's infrared detectors scanned for body heat below.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: The search for Meredith Emerson made national headline and was
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a desperate race against time.
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: Do everything we can do to make sure that if
• 24:05
  Speaker 12: she's up there, that we get her out of there,
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: get her out of there safely.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Police now knew who took her and which way he
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: was driving. They also knew that Hilton could snap at
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: any moment.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: It's a missing person's investigation right now, and that's how
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: we're pursuing it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And the scale of the investigation had expanded to three
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: states when police realized that Meredith Emerson wasn't Hilton's first victim,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: only the latest.
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: The body of eighty four year old Irene Bryant was
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: discovered on November ninth in the North Carolina Woods, and
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: her husband, eighty year old John, is still missing.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Four months earlier, John and Irene Bryant had just arrived
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: at Pisca National Forest in North Carolina. The retired couple
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: were eighty and eighty four years old, but fit and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: young at heart and avid hikers. But on this day,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the Bryants walked onto the trailhead and into an ambush.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Sixty one year old drifter Gary Hilton was armed and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: lying in wait Irene and John Bryant right October two
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Hilton has never discussed exactly what happened
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to the Bryants until now. The crime scene is North
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Carolina's Pisco National Forest, half a million acres with hundreds
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of miles of hiking trails. At what point did you
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: spot the two octogenarians.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: When they got out of their car at the trailhead
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: in the parking lot? Yeah, there was just a little
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: parking lot.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And why then were there no loane girls out there
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that day?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: To pick on? No again, I bowled one of my rules.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I said no couples, because two murders would generate a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: lot of publicity. I was down to one riddling two
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: spoons of coffee two dollars. I'd been living out a
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: dumpsters from a picnic area for two weeks. I lost
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a ton of weight. I think I was probably about
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a down to one hundred and forty, and I just said, hey,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: this has got to stop. And I had to take
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: some money.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say you had to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: take someone to get money for robbery purposes?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Well, well, yes, I'm going to stake out this trailhead
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and the first person that shows up goes the bans.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, what happens next?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: So I kind of geared up, and so I said
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to John Bryant, you know what, We're going to take
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: your credit card and run it. And he said, I'll
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: go to hell. And he just rushed right past me,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and I deployed the baton and hit him on the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: back of his left knee. So the guy whirls around.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: He was a big guy, a big strong man, just
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: as bit as can be. It whirls around. He's carrying
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: this trekking stick, this hiking stick that they love to carry.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So he goes out to me with that. So I
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: just brushed it.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Away and I'm whack.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: He didn't on the side of her head, then pulled
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: out of a pepper sprayed him in the face. He
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: steps forward a few feet and goes down where was Irene.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: She was a few feet ahead of him, and then
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he does the craziest thing. I can't believe this, he said, Irene.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I can't see he didn't. I'd just beaten him down.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And he's a big guy, six foot plus, and now
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: he's telling his wife to fight me. And bless her heart, Irene,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: she was all hard.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: She comes at you.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: She springs right into a fencing position, you know, like
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: on guard, you know, and pop and she stabs me.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I go ah, and I brush it to one side
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and whack hit her with the expander. She goes down.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Then I'm going to take him with me. Brian never
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: gets up. But there's another crazy thing. Well, he's sitting there.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: He pulls his wallet out and he takes his credit
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: cards out and he froze them. Inexplicable.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Did you abduct both of them at that point?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, I have only adducted him. She wouldn't get
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: in the band.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So what did you do to her?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I put him in the van, locked him in
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the van and closed the door, and I went back
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: over to her a few feet away. She knew what
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: was coming, and she said, I'm not getting in the band.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: The police always tell you don't get in the vehicle.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: You're as good as dead, and she says, I'm not
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: getting in the van. I gave him a dirty Harry voice.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I said, you're not getting into van? She said no,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: and I immediately laid into her. I beat her, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: her blood blew up and hit me in the eyes
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: that had turned my vision rag. Oh, nasty, nasty, nasty, nasty.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Hilton jumped Irene Bryan's body near the trail and held
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a battered John Bryant captive in his white fan. He
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: masked his face with duct tape and used the Brian's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: ATM card to withdraw his payday for murder and kidnapping
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. There are easier ways to get money,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: there are, so you were it was all.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: It was all stupid, very stupid.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, yielding what a few hundred dollars or in
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the course of.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: This all very stupid. The smart thing to do would
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: be to take people in parking lots.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, what about getting a job and earning some money?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Take anybody.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'm sixty one years old, I'm sick with MS, I'm
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: burned out, I have no resume. I'm going to walk
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: into a phone room looking for a job as a telemarketer.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Better than going out there killing innocent people, right.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Well, robbing a bait was better than that. No, no,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: there was no practical way of working.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Hilton then drove John Bryant deep into yet another national park,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the Nanta Howand National Forest, to end his life.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I wanted to give him a little further away because
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: there were some houses within earshot. But John tried to
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: run from me, and he fell down an embankment and
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: he caught his arm between two trees and broke and
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: broke right here. So I tried to get him up,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: and he couldn't get up like that, So you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I had to pistol in my pocket. I just wow
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: shot him in the side of the head, through and through.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Shot. John and Irene Bryant left four children and eleven
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: grandchildren behind. For the next few weeks, Hilton was in
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: between murders what criminologists called the serial killers cooling off period.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Can you explain to me what happens in your mind
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: in that cooling off period.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I'm putting the Beacher out of my mind. I had
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Beacher fork shortening. I just get up every day and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: go hiking. You're not thinking about it at all. Trying
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: not to.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Is the appetite for it rebuilding over the course of
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: weeks in between?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: There was never an appetite for it. Well, how can
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: that be, because I told you as I started this,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I said, now, well why didn't you stop? Then?
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: As soon as he started.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: It, Well, I didn't see any alternative.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean. And if that sounds illogical, well
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that was my state of mind.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Your mindset was that you couldn't see a way forward
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: without continuing to kill. Yes, just weeks after murdering the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Bryans in North Carolina, Hilton was yet again broke and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: out for blood. He had made his way to Florida's
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Apalachrical and National Forest, a thousand square miles of dense woods,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and set his sights on a nurse and Sunday school
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: teacher named Eryl Dunlin.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: She was walking on the trail.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: She was walking. Now, you've never publicly told exactly what
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: happened there, right.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't, and that case currently is under appeal.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it hasn't been finally jdicated.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: But hey, I'm going to give you a newscoop.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: This is Gary Hilton at an ATM machine in Tallahassee, Florida,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in December two thousand and seven. His face is disguised
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to hide his identity. He's robbing his latest victim, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that is the least of his sins. You have the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: power to haunt our dreams, yes, turn them into nightmares,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to worry about our daughters, to worry about our mothers,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to worry about ourselves. Do you enjoy having that kind
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of power over us?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: You know, in a perverse kind of way. I did
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the woman I killed in Tallahassee that I have my
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: current destin at ur She was a devout Christian and.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: A real wheel in the church. Cheryl Dunlop. Yes, Now,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you've never publicly told exactly what happened there, right, No,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: what happened, and that case currently is under appeal.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Right as a matter of fact, it hasn't been finally adjudicated.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But hey, I'm going to give you a news scoop.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I did it, So there you have it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: You did it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm confessing to a murder on camera that I've
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: never had before. You murdered, So I'm giving you something, David,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You murdered, Cheryl Dunlap Yes, I did I did it,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and I'll be glad to tell anyone I did.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: After committing a double murder in North Carolina in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: fall of two thousand and seven, Hilton fled one massive
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: crime scene for another. Arriving in Florida's Apalachicola National Forest.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Yet again, Hilton found himself broke, hungry, and hunting for
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a human target. He was living out of his van
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and living out a fiendish killing spree. Where did you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: first spot her?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: In the Leon Sinks Recreation Area on the trail?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Did you follow her?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I'd staked out on the trail and I had binoculars.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I was covered with a mosquitaet I see for camouflage.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Now, this is part of the Appalachicola National Forest, another enormous,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: enormous stretch of a thousand square miles.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: It's about forty forty miles. I finally had to get
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: somebody because I had a little bit of peanut butter,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: some prude ju ju one riddled in a few spoons
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: of coffee, and I had to take some money.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: When Ryl Dunlap was intending to her patients as a nurse,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: she was teaching Sunday school, but on this day she
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: was simply enjoying a walk in the Pristine National Forest,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: held him kidnapped and held Cheryl Dunlap captive, just as
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: he had done two other victims, keeping her for days
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: bound by chains to trees and inside his van. After
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: using her ATM card to steal her money, he decided
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to end her life, but first he would toy with her.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I put all her stuff together, that I'd taken her
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: car keys and her cell phone and everything, and said,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you go, but I burst, I'm going
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to go into down and run your credit card, just
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to make sure it's good. Did she seem hopeful? Did
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: she believe you? I believe so?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell me how did Cheryl die?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I said, come on, let's go. I'm want to train
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: you to a tree. And I have a chain at
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a lock, and she grabs it and goes right down
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and to put it on herself. She was already used
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to is real, and I kind of had a feeling
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that she was going to try to not click that lock,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just pretend it was locked.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: And as soon as she was down there and with
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: her back to me, I had my pistol in a
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: bandic pact there a little twenty two, and I pulled
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: it out and shot her.
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: In the.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Hilton, then dismembered her head and hands and burned her body.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Cheryl Dunlap, she was all religion, and it gave me
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: a kind of a perverse amusement to thing. I just
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: terrorized an entire church. Okay, I just have affected their
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: life for the rest of their life. They'll never forget it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And all those world kids that she taught Sunday school
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: tea to find out that she was killed and her
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: head was cut off and her hands were cut off.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: It you know, it could hot them and.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Well it will scar them for the rest of their lives. Yes, right,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you enjoy that amuse yourself.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's just I have to admit, Yeah, I kind
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: of like ha ha ha ha. You know, but she
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: said something that really grabbed me, kind of rattled me.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: What's she say?
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: Cheryl was sitting here and the girls that we mentored
• 38:47
  Speaker 11: together were running through the room and they were smiling
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: and laughing, and Cheryl had the biggest smile on her face.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: She was so proud of them, and she loved them
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: so much.
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: She had her scrubs on I'll love that picture because
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: she just it was Cheryl.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Cheryl Dunlap had lived a life of service.
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: There's probably not a day that goes by that I
• 39:08
  Speaker 11: don't think about her, because she was really we were like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: you know.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: In each other's lives, you know, in a deep way.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: When she wasn't treating patients in her nursing job, she
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: was teaching Sunday school.
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: The thing that I miss most about Cheryl is her
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: ability to listen. We spoke every day on the phone.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Cindy Wector and Laura Mayo, where Cheryl Dunlap's best friends.
• 39:37
  Speaker 11: I miss the thought that she was always praying for me,
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: and I knew that no matter what was going on
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: in my life, wherever she was and wherever I was,
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: and even if we didn't talk, if something was going
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: wrong in my life, she would know about it and
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: she would be praying for me.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: On December first, two thousand and seven, she disappeared.
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: So I got a call and was told that she
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: didn't show up for Sunday school and asked if I
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: had heard from her, and I said no. I said,
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: but that doesn't sound like Cheryl, And I said, this is.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Concerning Dunlap's disappearance matched Hilton's mo She was last seen
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in the Apalachicola National Forest just outside Tallahassee, Florida. Withdrawals
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: were made from her bank account by a man wearing
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a makeshift mask of tape, and then two weeks later,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: her decapitated body was discovered by a hunter.
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: Authorities also believe Hilton may be connected to yet another
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: woman's disappearance in Florida.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: From the first time I saw him, and from the
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: first time.
• 40:39
  Speaker 11: I heard him speak, I knew that something was just
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: not right with him. I just felt this sense of
• 40:46
  Speaker 11: darkness and avil.
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: The first time I heard the name Jerry Hilton was
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: as Cindy said, wow, it was like there was no soul,
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: but he was definitely an evil person.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Hilton had never before confessed to Cheryl Dunlap's murder. We
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: played part of his confession for Cheryl's dear friends Cindy
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Wector and Laura Mayo. How did Cheryl die gunshot head?
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: You were walking her behind her?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, I said, I was letting her go.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Oh that trick, Yeah, that trick.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a trick you got.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Seventeen years later, Hilton still recalls her final words that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: shook the hardened killer to his core.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But she said something that really what she said, she said,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: before you die, ask Jesus if we give you or
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: what you've died. And Jesus said, kind of rattle me.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Did that make you think twice? We did that make
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: her more huge? Why do you?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Oh? She was human, didn't matter, didn't matter.
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: What I thought about was God's grace was right there
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: with her even though she was facing death. You're telling
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: him to ask for forgiveness. I think that's so powerful.
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: She would start sentences off like if my life is
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: to be prophetic, and she would say that in a
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: way that she knew certain things. And I don't think
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: she knew all of this, but you know how there
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: are times there are people that have a knowing. So
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: when I heard that, it just brought me a miss
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: joy and.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: I was just so proud of my friend. I'm just
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: so proud of her.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and seven, there were few clues
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: as to how Cheryl died, and Hilton might have gotten
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: away with it if he hadn't had the urge to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: strike again just one month after killing Sheryl Dunlap Hilton
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: prowled another national forest out of money and out of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: his mind. This time it was Georgia's Blood Mountain, where
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: another missing woman was fighting for dear life. Do you
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: hate women?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yes and no?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, But Hilton's final murder victim, Meredith Emerson, had
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a clever plan of her own that would lead to
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Hilton's capture and end the killing.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: All right, I had this as a person of interest
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: in the missing woman case. Is at this chevron dass
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: vide she has her own stuff in the sulta for here.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I can go take him down if you want, say
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: right there the yeah.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Gary Michael Hilton is finally about to face justice. He
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: lurked in the woods, preyed on hikers, and says he
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: became America's oldest serial killers.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I was always real good to my victim until you
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: bludgeon them. They either shot them, they're bludge them. Once
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: you've taken someone, you're living to kill them? Are you
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: gonna get caught?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, Gary Michael Hilton, a deranged
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: sixty one year old drifter, launched a killing spree in
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: national forests spanning three different states. John and Irene Bryan
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: had been slain in North Carolina, Sheryl Dunlap was murdered
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: in Florida, and on New Year's Day in two thousand
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: and eight, a young woman named Meredith Emerson went missing
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: on Georgia's Blood Mountain.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: You never intend to let her go.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Right Right now, Hilton's.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Talking for the first time ever about his murderous midlife crisis.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a news scoop.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I did it, making news with a murder confession.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm confessing to a murder on camera that I've never.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Had before and opening a window into the mind of
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a madman. Outside of crime, your life is utterly.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Unremarkable, a complete abject failure.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Except killing.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that was that started when I was sixty one?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Did it?
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Really? Man?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I know, I knew that was coming. I set the record.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I'm the oldest serial killer in American history. Isn't that amazing?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: On New Year's Day two thousand and eight, twenty four
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: year old Meredith Emerson went for a walk on a
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: mountain park trail and cross paths with evil. You told
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: police that your m was to lurk and sometimes watch
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: for the binoculars from a distance, just like a hunter
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: wood yep, and were you doing that on this day?
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: No, I was just coming down off the dreel and boom,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: there she was.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Meredith fiercely fought the attacker, but Hilton overpowered her and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: chained her inside the white van he lived in, and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: thus begins four days of living hell for Meredith Emerson.
• 47:25
  Speaker 9: No.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Yes. Sitting across from Hilton on Florida's death Row, I'm
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: staring at a real life paradox. He's happy to admit
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to serial murder but protests being characterized as inhumane.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: She had a good time. No she didn't, Yes, she did.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: No, she didn't.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: David, I was there.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I knew you were there, but you were in Gary
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Hilton world. In the real world, she was being tormented
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and tortured. She was not tormented and tortured.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: They fly and then, and a lot of it is
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: because of me.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I really sure that is going to be okay.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: But quick by, now, are you going to get her?
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Seventeen years ago, when he was interrogated, Hilton told police
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: he had a magical ability to comfort and lull his
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: victims into submission, and he still stands by that claim.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: All of my victims fought me initially, but I quickly
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: gained control, and then they all became strangely submissive. That's
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: because of my power. I could put them at ease.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: She stuck in your van, chained to the chassis.
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: No, no, she was.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: She was unrestrained ninety percent of the time. Only during
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: transit was she restrained, had collar on her neck. I'm
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: telling you, wait, a relax in time. I gave her
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: books to read. She would read them and everything. She
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: wouldn't need anything. I kept trying to No.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: You're so delusional that you think she was having a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: good time.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Oh well, she wasn't big torture.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: You told police. She's she was not having a bad
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: time at all, enjoying herself. I could tell that well
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: in the sense she did.
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: He advice to people if there actor is to engage
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: your abductor and to make yourself a person to.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: The Hilton offered police this advice for anyone being held captive.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Telling about your family, what your dreams and homes and
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: plants and steams are.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Because the inductor is psychopathic, he's looking at you in
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: a way you want to make yourself again.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Turns out that's exactly what Meredith Emerson tried to do
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: in the clutches of the madman. But the cruel irony
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: is lost on Hilton. She would joke, this is her
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: engaging you to try and save her life.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: David. You you are talking through your ass.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: You might be you might be telling yourself that to
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: make yourself appear lessie evil. But she was not having
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: a good time, mister Hilton.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not less evil. I'm your worst nightmare. David.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: You're not trying to appear less evil.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: No.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Here she is fighting for her life heroically, valiantly. That
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: meant nothing to you in terms of empathy, mercy or decency.
• 50:26
  Speaker 13: Hit it.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Not at that moment.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I was always real good to my victims. I treated
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: them good.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Do you think so? I know I did until you
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: bludgeon them.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Until they eat your shot them or bludgeon.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have zero point zero empathy. First chance
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: you get your raper.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Paraphilia, that was yes. Paraphilia is a fixation on sexual sadism,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: a condition Hilton admits drove him to Meredith Emerson, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: yet he denies both the brutality and the gratification of
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the act.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't enjoy it. I just did it
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: because I planted.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Come on, no expect anyone to believe that. Yes, you
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: also told the police that you didn't force her. Now
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: that seems ridiculous. You're enforcing, You're forcing this whole song.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Made no mistake, But I didn't overphysically overpower her anything.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: No trace yet of.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: A missing twenty four year old Gwinnett County woman.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: All day above Blood Mountain, the State Patrol's infrared detectors
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: scanned for body heat below, but.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: There's still hope for Meredith Emerson. As news crews and
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: search teams descend on Blood Mountain.
• 51:50
  Speaker 13: We heard that there was a missing hiker January second.
• 51:54
  Speaker 13: It was in an area within the jurisdiction of my unit.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: The detective John Cagel of Georgia Bureau of Investigation, but
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: forgot the call to find Meredith Emerson.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: We learned that Meredith was a recent graduate of the
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: University of Georgia.
• 52:09
  Speaker 13: She was living in an area north of Metro Atlanta
• 52:14
  Speaker 13: and had a job in marketing.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: She was an experienced hiker.
• 52:19
  Speaker 13: She also had studied martial arts, so this is not
• 52:23
  Speaker 13: somebody who would have just gotten lost on the trail.
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: We all became very concerned that this was something more
• 52:31
  Speaker 13: than an overdue hiker. We had hundreds and hundreds of
• 52:37
  Speaker 13: volunteers just show up to help look from Meredith. We
• 52:41
  Speaker 13: organized search teams to go on Blood Mountain and to
• 52:46
  Speaker 13: search not only the trail, but off the trails.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Searches on that was a shocker.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: You told police you didn't like seeing that. You've ridiculed
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the people who didn't know her but came out to help.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I ridiculed the people, No, I did it. You
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: see the candlelight Marchis or Meredith Emerson and other people,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: and people show up and they care, people that.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Don't even know the girl.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, thirty five thousand people a year gets shredded, maimed,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: and beaten to death in car wrecks. Okay, I mean yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about is a virtual greed.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: An enormous crime scene. It's it's no wonder the police
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: were stymied for so long. You watched this search unfold
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: right civilly, hundreds of searchers, helicopters, dogs, people walking the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: grid out there in the middle of nowhere. Did you
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: just watch all that play out.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: And all now I didn't know anything about that.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: You didn't know. Hilton didn't know it, but he had
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: just become the prime suspect and was about to become
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the prey.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: We began to.
• 53:53
  Speaker 13: Interview people that had been on Betrayal New Year's Day
• 53:57
  Speaker 13: and had seen Meredith. They began to comment that they
• 54:00
  Speaker 13: had seen her talking with an older guy. The older
• 54:06
  Speaker 13: guy was acting very strangely, So we began to put
• 54:10
  Speaker 13: out a description of this person that had been seen
• 54:14
  Speaker 13: with Meredith, and we got a call to our tip
• 54:17
  Speaker 13: line from someone who says, I think I know who
• 54:21
  Speaker 13: you're looking for.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: His name is Gary Hilton. After stalking and killing unsuspecting
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: hikers in two other states, Hilton is now the one
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: being hunted. The captive Meredith has a plan of her own.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: They fight, and then they suit men and a.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Surprise in store for the aging maniac. She kept on
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: fighting you, right with her brains, outsmarting you with the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: bank cards.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: She didn't now smart, got you running around you think,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: so huh oh?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Absolutely did you not figure out what she was doing.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: In the days after Meredith Emerson's disappearance on New Year's
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Day two thousand and eight, police are on the brink
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: of finding her and her captor Gary, Michael Hilton. She's
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: an innocent stranger. So why Meredith Emerson.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. It's a good question. What's
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: the answer. It was just the mission, after.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: God, the mission at the time, yep, the mission to.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: What to till murder and take her ATM card and
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: get the money out of it.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: But when Hilton demanded Meredith's ATM card, she repeatedly gave
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: him bad pin numbers, which he used at machines along
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the escape route, leaving a trip of digital breadcrumbs for
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Georgia Detective John Cagle.
• 56:04
  Speaker 13: We found out that there in fact had been activity
• 56:07
  Speaker 13: throughout the week. The first night on January first, there
• 56:11
  Speaker 13: was activity about at a bank about fifteen miles from
• 56:16
  Speaker 13: Blood Mountain, and then another attempt at a bank about
• 56:21
  Speaker 13: forty miles south, and then the following day there was
• 56:24
  Speaker 13: another attempt about seventy miles southwest of Blood Mountain. So
• 56:30
  Speaker 13: they're all over the place. She was doing that to
• 56:34
  Speaker 13: give us time to try to catch up.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: She kept on fighting you right with her brains, outsmarting
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: you with the bank cards.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: She didn't now smart, I knew what she was doing.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: How many times did she have you running to ATMs.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: One of the several times five times.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gave the police a virtual roadmap as you
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: tried to use her ATM card. She knew this was
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the way to hold the window open for a rescue
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and to be tracked.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: You think so, huh?
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely did you not figure out what she was doing?
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I think she misjoculated.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Well, kept her alive for four days. You might have
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: killed her that first day, Who knows. Thanks to Meredith,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: police now have a bead on Hilton, but they know
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: that time may be running out for her because the
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: killer could snap at any moment.
• 57:30
  Speaker 13: We were getting closer to Hilton, but we seem to
• 57:35
  Speaker 13: be just a step behind. The longer these things go on,
• 57:40
  Speaker 13: the less likely there's a good outcome.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: You told police there was never any plan to let
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: her go, right. I knew that if I let her go,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I'd be identifying. I knew she couldn't be let go.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I knew she was doomed. Yep, I was as good
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: as card if I let her go. On the last day,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: you pull the cruelest trick of all on her. You
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: told her you were letting her go home. Oh cruel,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: very cruel, pure evil. No, what if I told her today.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going to kill you, equally evil, equally equal.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, you tie her to a tree, you bag up
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: all her stuff, and now it's the iron bar, right, Yes,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: solid iron bar. Struck her with that, Yes, she said no,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: let me go. Yes, you remember that? Put her hands up. Yeah,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you keep striking her. You'll see some defensive wounds to
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: her hands. Oh god, Yes, beat her into unconsciousness. And
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: you say I kept striking her to ensure she was dead.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Yep?
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Feeling anything at this point?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Or yes?
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: What are you feeling?
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Blobing's terrible. Beating someone to death is number one. Is
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: a hard way to eye and it's a hard way
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: to kill anyone. Oh, I wouldn't have done it if
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I had my guns with me.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Did you ever consider not killing her? No, not taking her? No,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: you didn't have to kill her, Yes I did. If
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you didn't kill her, you wouldn't have to cut her up? Right,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: If I didn't kill her out of being caught.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: You decapitate her with what you described as a standard
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: serrated Regen knife bread knife? Why did you do that?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Because her hair is full of forensic cabinets, including dog hare.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Her hair is full of dandy's hair and they get
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: DNA off dog airs.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: You say you did that for forensic reasons, right, Yes,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: it's like a lot more common variety paraphilia, because now
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the filing of corpse is a telltale sign of paraphilia.
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: No.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: No, you're barking up the wrong tree. Yeah, sure, positive.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: It was dreadful. I'd already told you. I couldn't even
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: look the fact.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 13: That he had decapitated her. I asked him why what
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 13: was that about? And he said that he had done
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 13: that for forensic purposes. And uh, if anybody who's ever
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 13: met Gary Hilton, uh, he did that because he liked it.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Finally, police use Meredith atm smoke signal to hone in
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: on Hilton and spread the word.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Ska that one. What's the exactly, pay? I have this?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: The person of interest in that missing woman case is
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: that this chevron gas that the van is here. The
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: dog has hit the red dog and I saw hit
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: the man's space and I've been watching the news and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: I knows him, I know it him. He's throwing something
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: the dulpster here. I can go take him down if
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: you want, say.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you a fuck?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: He's finishing off.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: You guys got a hurry.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Just hours after Hilton murdered Meredith, police tracked him down
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: outside a gas station here going to college. Yea brought
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: to heal by a young woman who outsmarted a serial
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: killer and lost her life in the process of stopping him.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Meredith was not with him when he was arrested. We
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: did not believe this was going to have a good outcome.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: For meridianth Hilton's arrest made headlines as hikers across the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: southeast could breathe a sigh of relief. Gary Michael Hilton,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: of course it is this aspect.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: He is now a custody. Cops tracked this guy down
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: and captured him. Sixty one year old Gary Michael Hilton
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: now sits in a county jail. Wasn't there than to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: ask you about that?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: You got to put something to keep her quiet, gags
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: out of Baker, anything on dad?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: She was she unconscious of that or never she hard did.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Prosecutors in Georgia cut a deal with Hilton for the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: sake of the victim's family. Tell police where he hid
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Meredith's remains, and the state will take the death penalty
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: off the table. Cagel then set out to bring Meredith
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: home from a remote location in the woods.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 13: I found her clothes first, and I began to just
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 13: on my hands and knees, began to push back leaves
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 13: and brush next to the tree, and I went probably
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 13: fifteen feet maybe twenty feet doing that until I was
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 13: able to uncover the leaves that exposed her her head.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 13: I had another agent with me, and I said, I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 13: told him to stay with Meredith, because we're not going
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 13: to leave her.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: The Emersons were finally able to lay their beloved and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: brave daughter to rest.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 13: They had a memorial service from Meredith and Anthens, Georgia,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 13: and thousands of people came to day.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Didn't even know me.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 13: Her friends, her family were all alike. They were all
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 13: just good, solid people. So it was a tough time
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 13: for the family and the friends and the hiking community.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: But to authorities in Georgia, there were still unanswered questions.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Why did Gary Hilton kill these people and what set
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: him off?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Listen, I know as well as anyone, I'm a crime expert,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and I know that serial killers never ever start when
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: they're sixty one years old, and they don't wake up
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: and start killing people. It doesn't happen, So how do
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: you account for that? Well, let me finish, It's never
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: happened in the past, and it's never going to happen again.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I set the record for I'm the oldest serial killer
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: in American history, and I understand that the probability, you know,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: that I have been chilling people before it is perhaps
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: ninety percent, you know, so I can understand someone not
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: believe in me, and trust me, nobody will believe me.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: My best friend of ten years, of ten years, was
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: visiting me a couple of weeks ago. He still was
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: not sure. My legal team is still not sure.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Do you maintain that contrary contrary to common sense and
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: logic and statistics only?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Let me answer that with a saying that I've come
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: up with you must always leave room for the exception.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: So you maintain you must always leave room for the coincidence.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: All these years later, Hilton remains perversely proud of his crimes.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: But this deranged serial killer's reign of terror is over,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: and now Gary Hilton is the one in chains and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: about to finally face justice.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: I believe he is nothing more than a bully and
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: a weak minded power to praise on others.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Take this.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: In the nineteen ninety five b horror movie Deadly Run,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: a psychotic killer kidnaps women and releases them into a
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: mountain wilderness, only to stalk and hunt them down. Gary
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Hilton is listed on the movie's IMDb page as an
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: uncredited member of the crew. The film's producer Sam Rail
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: says Hilton even embellished the screenplay with detailed ways of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: tormenting the female characters. Some scenes were filmed near Blood Mountain,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: where Gary Hilton abducted twenty four year old Meredith Emerson
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: in two thous eight. Back in ninety five, you help
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: make a movie called Deadly Run. Is that art imitating
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: life or life imitating art?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: It's neither. This is Sam Reel acquired this. Here's here's
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the genesis of that. Sam Reel acquired this property. In
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: other words, a screenplay.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: But he did work on the film, right, No, you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: didn't help him with the film. No, that he credits
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: with you with ideas like let's have the women fight back.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, that that guy has caused me more mischief in
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: a word, not a chance.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: You say, none of that's true. No, okay, it's an
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: eerie coincidence. That the plot of the movie revolves around
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: hunting women down and killing them. It is the cabin
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: used to shoot a scene as Stone's throw from one
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: of your old crime scenes.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: No it isn't.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: It's blood Mountain. No it's not a stone's throw twenty minutes,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: twenty miles.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a long throw.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: It's surprising that Hilton would deny an association with the film.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: In the aftermath of his arrest, he appeared to relish
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: any notoriety.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of like a Hollywood celebrity that's been banned.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: And now.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: You see what I mean.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: The more you limited, the bigger demand it may.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: You are infamous, Yes, sir, Collectors of murder memorabilia think
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: you're a big celebrity.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm a hot commodity.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: You enjoy all that attention.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: It's better than being ignored.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: After Hilton cut a deal in Georgia to avoid the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: death penalty there, police tried to get him to talk
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: about his other crimes, the murders of John and Irene
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Bryant in North Carolina and the king of Sheryl Dunlap
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: in Florida, but instead he put on a dizzying display
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: of derangement.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: Let me bekay in warn a half bollion you son
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: is going to run out of nuclear pool if she
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: will a little started collapsing on herself. Kind of like
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: the Lone Rangers, and the lone Ranger would come galloping
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: into town. They would be all the smart towns people
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: right and here the lone Ranger would be wearing this
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: night the skin kind out this but really elaborate two
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: gun red mounted the silver with chrome pistol. I have
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: a ring against society, and I guess most people would
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 7: fit the bill as far as a lot them good.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: One thing he had asked me what they'd.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 14: Like to get some months Hell, okay, uh it was
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 14: dragonful And the only thing you can do is so
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 14: dractful that the only thing you can do is go
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 14: on autop I told you.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: It wasn't work.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 13: Hilton's no different than any other serial killer. They always
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 13: think they're the most you know, important and the smartest
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 13: person in the room. And Hilton's no exception. The only
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 13: time he's smarter than anybody is when he's alone in
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 13: his cell. That's the time he's the smartest guy in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 13: the room.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Do you think you're smart?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: I am you do now.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: They say serial killers are the smartest of the killing group.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: They do, but I can't tell how smart you are. Cunning, sure,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: uneducated for the most part. Basing your crimes in such
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: sprawling settings seems clever, But you did a lot of
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: stupid things along the way too, sure did. Hilton's many
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: missteps would come back to haunt him, this time in
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: a Florida courtroom where the death penalty was back on
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: the table.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 14: And if they want to spend a million dollars the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 14: two million to kids death for me, and then another
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 14: two million to get death and then another eight million
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 14: to get in the death penalty.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what authorities did in Florida State Court for
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: the abduction and murder of beloved nurse Ryl Dunlap.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Arry was not the ordinary killer. There were too many
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: levels to him.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Forensic psychiatrist doctor Abbe Strauss was one of the first
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to evaluate Gary Hilton's mind for the Florida court case.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: I was hired by the Office of the Public Defender
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: in two thousand and nine to see him to do
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: a psychiatric evaluation, and I was trying to get a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: sense of what happened.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 12: Why did you not kill anybody until you're sixty one
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 12: years old.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Hilton greeted Dr Strauss with his characteristic grandiosity.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 12: I said, mister Hilton, glad to meet you, and he said,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 12: doctor Strauss, Oh, yes.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I knew you were coming. By the way, did you
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: read the New York Times today?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 12: I am there to talk to him about the charges
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 12: of murder against him, and it seemed almost like it.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Was a deflection of some sort.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 12: Gary had a script, obviously very bright, and he basically
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 12: tried to control the interview. At first, he said that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 12: he was happy to be in jail. He took a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 12: lot of the pressures off. He didn't have to worry
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 12: about anything, and he was going to retire in jail.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 12: But when we started talking about his mother, things changed.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 12: He talked about how indeed he is a misogynous he
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 12: hates women, and his hatred was deep.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Do you hate women? Yes?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 13: And no?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, here's how you described women to police. You
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: see part of my dislike or I wouldn't call it hatred,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: but almost for women is that they have all the advantages.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: You don't be fooled by a woman's nurturing instinct. Look
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: at their free will, personalities and you're gonna find women who.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: Are the most hateful, avaricious, a humulative, greedy, and heartness.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Believe all that women have all the advantages. They're smarter,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: they're more intuitive, they're more patience, which is a very
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: prime bird you it's very valuable virtue. They're more patient,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: and they have all the tea. It's not there. It's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: not fair.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Are those your reasons for hating It's just not there.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: I can't tell if you're joking or not.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Doctor Streuss has a theory about Hilton's hatred of women.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 12: Apparently, his mother divorced his biological father when he was
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 12: roughly five years old, and they got married to this
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 12: stepfather and it was not a good relationship. Gary said
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 12: that his mother would speak to him about the importance
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 12: of giving her new husband a good orgasm. How destructive
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 12: to a kid who's trying to figure out life to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 12: have to live but he knows about his mother's orgasmic history.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Streuss testified at the Dunlap trial.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: State of Florida very security Michael Hilton.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: And presented his findings as a mitigating factor during the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: sentencing phase.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: A child can grow up with his emptiness inside of them.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 12: I got the feeling the jury thought I was getting
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 12: them a bunch of psychological bs.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: The evidence against Hilton was overwhelming. Your lawyers are presenting
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: mitigating factors which were underwhelming, and then the state plays
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: videos of you post murders, happy go Lucky, basically celebrating.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: At one point, you say in a sing song voice,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: I had to kill those pitches.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I deal them with it to them because of the mark. Yeah,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: but first I gotta go hide his come more up. Yes,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: you know that was funny because I funny.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: This was up to Ryl.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: This is empty. Yeah, it was funny because I wanted
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: to erase delete everything on the camera. This is a
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: digital camera, and I knew that you just can't hit
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: a delete. I don't remember saying that, but it sounds
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: like something I would say.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: It showed how devoid of remorse you were.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Boy. Ye, you're on an attack. You've got me at
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: a loss for work.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Lay.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, Hilton was convicted of first degree capital
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: murder in Florida, where.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: He'll face the death penalty in the killing and decapitation
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: of this woman, Cheryl Dunlap.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: He also pled guilty to the murders of Irene and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: John Bryant in North Carolina. Their family took to local
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: media to express their outrage at the serial killer.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: He beat my mother to death, he shot my father
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: in the head.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: He murdered two people for no reason other than the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 7: trophies of their clothes and the three hundred dollars he
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: got from their bank card.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: But Brian's children say they don't believe that Hillton is sorry.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: No empathy, no mercy, no decency.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I think let's not go that far. Although let
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: me tell you, Meredith is the one that really gets stingy.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: She was twenty four years old. I stole over fifty
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: years of her life. She was such a great girl,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: just graduated from a fine school Georgia, and I had
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: a bright future and I took it all from her.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: It's terrible.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: It was terrible, you said about Cheryl Dunlap. The community
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: went absolutely nuts over this. Sure, she's a nurse and
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: she teaches Sunday school to fifth graders, But you'd think
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I killed mother Teresa.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Hey, look, it's just another murderer. So you know there's
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: a million murders.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: This is how you're discussing the murder victim you're waxed
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: poetic about Meredith and your regrets over her loss, and
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: here you're deriding Cheryl.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: It's just nothing.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: What you.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know? I answer that.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Having terrorized and taken the lives of others, Hilton is
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: now about to reveal the one thing that terrifies him.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: You said death is like a roaring fire. It can
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: induce a blind panic that will make you trample your
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: best friend to get away with it. Very true, and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Gary Michael Hilton is about to meet his fate. The
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: idea of your own death still frightens you. Yes, you're
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: seventy eight years old, now right?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: He can this short? I guess you could. You could
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: say that, man, it is against me.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: As far as Gary Hilton getting the death penalty, The
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 9: law is the law.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Laura Mayo and Cindy Wector were Cheryl Dunlap's best friends.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Cheryl's life was mercilessly cut short by serial killer Gary
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Michael Hilton in two thousand and seven.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 9: I know that my faith dictates that I forgive, but
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 9: the fact that he got the death penalty is probably
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 9: fitting for someone like him. He cannot hurt anybody else,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: and I hope that he can reconcile everything he's done
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 9: with God.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 11: I also felt like he realizes that he's killed so
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 11: many people, but yet he.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: Realizes he's going to die. And so it did, like
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Laura said, it did feel like it was fitting.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 11: It was the law and the people who made the
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 11: judgments and everything decided that this was fitting.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and eight, Hilton taunted investigators and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: dared the courts to charge him with capital murder.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: I'll telling you right now, I'm going to dig my heelton.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 14: I didn't get around to executing the seventeen years from now,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 14: when I'm seventy eight years old, I've decredited in anything.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, they can do it. But now, exactly seventeen years later,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting across from a decrepit seventy eight year old
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Gary Hilton, and today it is the death penalty that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: he fears most. You said something in the correspondence that
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a specially striker. I thought I'd
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: start with this, he said, Confronting the reality of death. Yes,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: is of course much different from the abstract concept. Is
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: death is like a roaring fire. It can induce a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: blind panic that will make you trample your best friend
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: to get away with it?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Very true?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Have you witnessed this intimately in the course of imposing
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: death on your victims?
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Their death was to them completely unexpected.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: And yet what surprises me about that statement is that,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: even after all the cruelty and killing you've done, the
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: idea of your own death still frightens you.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, and for that, I'm ashamed.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: And I feel guilty because the way you struck down
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: those innocent people. Yeah, you think that life is cheap
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: to you, but that's right. Does that just apply to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: other people's lives, not your own?
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: No, it applies to their lives to you, Does it
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: apply to yours? Yes? And when I say I want
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: to live, well, they wanted to live too. I know
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: they did, and I know what I took from them.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 13: He wants people to remember how big a serial killer
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 13: he is when he dies, and we'll see what the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 13: look on his face is when they bring him in
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 13: to be executed.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Detective John Cagele once helped bring Hilton in and now
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: helps one day to see him off.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 13: I look forward to being there for that.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: To stave off execution. Hilton has been appealing his death
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: sentence for years. His latest effort is now pending at
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the US Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. It's unclear how
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: his stunning admission to the Dunlap murder earlier in our
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: interview will impact his appeal.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a news scoop.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I did it.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: You did it. Yes, I'm confessing to a murder on
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: camera that I've never had before. You murdered. So I'm
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: giving yourself a David.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: You murdered Cheryl Dunlap.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I did it, and I'll be glad
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: to tell anyone I did.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: Why do you wait so long to confess to this crime?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: You know you have lawyers and they pounded in you.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: You know, not to say anything. But as I told
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: you before, I'm to the point where I don't care.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: I don't care. There's nothing they can.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: Do to me.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Hilton may finally be on the brink of his long
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: overdue demise, But seventeen years on, will nature take him
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: before the State of Florida can put him to death?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: You're in poor health, you say.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, very poor health, because I'm going to die soon.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Is that why you're here today?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, yeah, time is short, but hey, and then
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: there's the question of other victims. No prior murders, No
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: prior Belanese committed violent LaNese committed against persons.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Of any type until you're sixty one years old.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: It's very hard to believe.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine that Gary Michael Hilton's compulsion to
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: kill started so late in life, and some in law
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: enforcements suspect that Hilton could be behind similar unsolved murders.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: For former Georgia detective John Cagel, there's one outstanding case
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: that hits close to home, the two thousand and four
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: disappearance of Patrese Andras, a hairdresser from Coming, Georgia.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 13: Patrice had been abducted from her hair salon that she had.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: In his lengthy interrogation with investigators, Hilton revealed that he
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: liked to visit beauty salons to hustle money for a
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: fake charity. That's when that shotguns trong Ay. They're working
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: on Saturday.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: And that's primarily that's their day.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: That's when the owner is going to be there.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 14: That's the busiest time of the wait on any beauty shop.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: An they did to give up good money, you know.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Patrice's remains were found near the same wooded area where
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Hilton hid Meredith Emerson's body.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 13: The remains of Patrice Andras were recovered three miles from
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 13: the Dawson Forest Wildlife Management area. The loose connection to
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 13: a beauty salon or a hair salon and then the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 13: proximity of the forest where her remains were recovered kind
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 13: of reopened our thoughts.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: No prior murders, No prior.
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  Speaker 2: Felonese committed violent Felanese committed against persons of.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Any type until you're sixty one years old.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: It's very hard to believe.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? When I started doing this, after having
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: all these fantasies and everything, but so long, I found
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: that I didn't like it at all. It wasn't anything
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: like the day dreams. The reality. No, and I dreaded
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: it and then putting it off and putting.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: It off, procrastinating it because the impulse was in you.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. Once I actually did it, I see,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: once I actually did it.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Hilton has come under suspicion in connection with several other
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: missing persons in the years leading up to his killing. Spree,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: including Judy Smith, Jason Knapp, Rosana Miliani, and Michael Scott Lewis,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: all vanished from national forests in the southeastern United States
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Hilton's hunting grounds, but he has never been charged in
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: connection with these or any other attacks.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: When I started out, if anyone saw me in the area,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: or even worse, with the victim, it was in aboard season. However,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: by the end of the whole thing in my mind
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: was just ragged, you know, disordered, and.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: As a result of these crimes or some kind of
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: descent into madness.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Not into madness, I was already mad.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Were you taking these chances to amuse yourself or increase
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: the challenge involved?
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Is there anything that could have happened to prevent you
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: from murdering these people? Is there anything we at large
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: could have done to stop this? How would you advise us?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: With respect to all the other Gary Hilton's out there?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Couldn't help you on that? Yeah, thank you, madam.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: And with that, Gary Hilton's first and likely last interview
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: comes to an end. If he has any secrets left,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: he may now take them to the grave, While the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: families and friends of his victims continue to pick up
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: the pieces of their lives from the carnage left in
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: his wake. For Detective John Cagel, the Meredith Emerson case
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: would finish a long career in law enforcement.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 13: This was the last case I worked at GBA. I
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 13: retired in April to Tiles Night. There are people, even
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 13: to this day, seventeen years later, they remember this case
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 13: and an are are steel struggling with it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: As for Laura Mayo and Cindy Wector, the last thing
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: they want to do is think about the man who
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: took their dear friend, Cheryl Dunlap's life.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 9: When I think about Hieryl, I do think about her life.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 9: I'll think about just a something funny, and I would
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: get in her car for lunch and her car would
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 9: be a mess.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: I remember the good times.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 11: I remember us walking around the lake like Yellow Member
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 11: in Tallahassee, and then we would stop and pray and
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 11: we would talk about things, and she was just always there.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: I want Cheryl to be defined by her life and
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: not her death.