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  to this show on. I'm your host, Anthony. Find me on Twitter
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  at pro Underscore Underscore that's pro two Underscores a n T. In tonight's episode
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  of disguise coverage. We're continuing this series with building the Buffalo Bills draft board.
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  This is the third installment of it. This is the first episode post
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  Stefan Diggs, a move that happened last Wednesday and almost kind of tour repoed
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  my episode last Tuesday, really and consider it a Brandon Bean and the Buffalo
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  Bills. I'm still pretty upset about it, but you gotta power forward and
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  you gotta move past it. But tonight's episode has a little bit of a
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  different feel. I have one of my favorite guests. Also continuing in this
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  trend of having one of my favorite guests, which again I don't say all
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  the time, it's for specific people and looking at the Buffalo Bills board,
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  not necessarily through the Bills themselves, but through an opponent or an enemy of
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  the Buffalo Bills. We did this last year with Matt from the Casey Sports
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  Network, again taking that lens of what the Bills need and if you're an
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  opponent of the Bills or basically anybody other than the Bills, who don't you
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  want to see them get or what do you not want to see them be
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  able to address? So that's what we're going to be diving into on tonight's
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  episode. Also, you folks know, my wife always does the background she
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  wants me to address. I've heard my phone go off. It's because she
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  mentioned about the Easter stuff. She says the Easter stuff should come down because
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  Easter's passed. I have said that Easter is still norm in April, swum
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  sticking with the Eastern stuff. The tree will change once we get to draft
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  week. But just in case anybody wanted to throw shade at the lack of
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  background change, please know that it was not my wife's fault. It is
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  my call. I'm sure she'll feel better known about this. She told me
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  this like eight times to make sure I addressed it. Now that that's out
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  of the way, time to bring up my guests to the show. She
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  just opened the door and said, thank you man. Wild times, I
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  feel like a hostage here. Welcome to the show. Patriots beat reporter for
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  the Pats on CLNS. You focus now. I've had him on the show
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  a bunch anytime the Bill has played the Pats. He's my guest for the
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  show. Mister Taylor Kyle's one of legitimately one of my favorite people. Now
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  even more so because you are on the beat and covering this professionally and doing
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  this professionally, but you haven't lost your You're still grinding the tape and the
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  x's and o's, and it works for scheme, it works for player and
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  prospect evaluation come draft time. So I'm very excited to have you on the
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  show. Welcome and thanks for joining me. Always a pleasure, buddy,
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  love seeing your face. I like the Eastern stuff add some nice color to
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  the background. I dig it. H But yeah, man, we can't
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  lose that touch. We gotta grind the film. We gotta actually put the
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  work in, because honestly, I would panic if I ever had to talk
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  about something that I didn't know about. I'm not good at just pulling stuff
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  up. And if I don't know what I'm talking about, I am happy
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  to admit it. I think, you know, it's important to remember that
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  beat reporters are human two you can only do so much. But yeah,
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  man, I like I said, it's a pleasure talking to you. I'm
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  excited to get started. I appreciate you. And that's one of my philosophies
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  too. Come draft time, like there's there's so many guys and I'm always
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  very purposeful with the order I go in scouting, So I cover the draft
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  from a holistic just prospect evaluation perspective, but from a Bill's lens perspective.
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  I usually start with like the Bills positions of need and go from there.
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  So like this year, I especially going into the Senior Bowl and who was
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  there. I started with receiver and safety, and then I was looking at
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  defensive tackle on edge and all this, and then based on what the moves
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  the Bills had done on that red wedding of a Wednesday, when Poyer's gone
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  and Tray's gone and all these guys are getting cut, and I'm getting questions
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  like, ooh, who are the corners you like in this draft? And
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  I had to keep going and being like I just kept copying pasting the same
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  answer. I was like, I haven't looked at corner yet. Give me
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  like three weeks and then I'll tell you. But I just you can tell
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  when people just like parrot something or just oh like take something from Dame Brugler
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  or whoever like, And I hate that because I just I can't speak on
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  something unless I actually know, and if I don't know enough, I'll be
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  like I only watched one game. This is what I got, but it's
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  not a full sample size. I don't have a full evaluation. That's another
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  reason I respected the quality of your work, the integrity of your work.
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  And this is a really fun episode that I'm excited for and I was pumpy
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  you're gonna be able to do it. I think this is an interesting concept
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  to kind of look at the at a team through the lens of an opponent,
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  especially one that is in the division that you see multiple times of the
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  year. So the PA you know you covered the pass is perfect for that.
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  Your knowledge of the game structure and everything of it. I'm very excited
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  to have this conversation with you. High level for you coming into this draft
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  doesn't have to be Bills, really, it could be anything. What are
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  your thoughts coming into this draft? Do you like the talent pool? Is
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  there a specific position you're gravitating towards. Do you not care about anything and
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  you're just focused on which quarterback the Patriots get? Where's your mind at heading
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  into the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. My top priority has been kind of
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  just spelling all the Drake may nonsense. It's out there. Yes, I
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  feel like you know, prospect fatigue is a thing. I understand that perceptions
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  for Jaden Daniels are different because he won the Heisman. There's a lot of
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  hype around that I totally understand, But really I think Drake May It's like
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  he and Caleb Williams are a different tiers. Williams is above him, I
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  think, but I think Drake is in a tier of his own in that
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  respect, and I really don't think it's particularly close. I don't think anybody
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  has his set of tools, especially his set of tools with also you know,
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  the size and the fact that he doesn't really put the ball in harm's
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  way. The accuracy is an issue, but it's a fixable issue. It's
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  not like this is a guy who can't read a defense like everybody in this
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  class. Seeds be more consistent, but he's been really good. I'll talk
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  about him later because you know we're gonna get to that. But really,
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  you know, I, because I'm on the beat, there's only so much
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  I can really take in, you know, I kind of and I go
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  off vibes like I am not structured. I'll be very honest. I kind
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  of just like the Patriots have a guy in for a visit, I watch
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  him and then I come back to, like, you know, do a
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  mock draft, and I'm like, wait, who have I done clips on?
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  Oh? Okay, you know, throw him man. So I'm going
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  off vibes mostly, but for you know, largely with the Patriots, they
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  have three huge needs and they are the biggest needs you can have on OFFENSEI
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  quarterback, left tackle, and wide receivers. So those have been the areas
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  I've really doven into with offensive line and tackle. I'll be totally honest,
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  not a lot of film tellsted on my area of expertise. I kind of
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  rely on Brandon Thorne total honesty, and he's the best of the best.
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  So like, if I'm gonna paarrot someone, it's gonna be Brandon Thorn.
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  Then I try to watch enough so I have a feel for like, all
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  right, this is what this guy can do, and you know, if
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  I have some things in my head to go back on. But yeah,
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  primarily for me, it's been quarterback, wide receiver, offensive line. Seeing
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  some other prospects here and there, some tackles, some cornerbacks, but those
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  have been my biggest areas of focus. So no bs for me, sir.
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  How passed the test. I love the prospect fatigue coming from you in
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  this last year I thought was a really good example, Like because the season
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  prior, if will Anderson had come out, everybody and their mother was just
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  pounding the table for will Anderson. And then he has a full season and
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  it's like, is he really that good? Is he the best players?
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  Like, well, Jalen Carter should better, And it's like, well,
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  you know what, I understand that for Jalen Carter. And then we get
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  to like a month out and granted we've only had a rookie season for each
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  guy, so you never make a concrete decision on a guy until at least
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  year three. But louder for the people in the back pleace, not his
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  audience. His audience is fantastic, but geez, that needs to be,
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  you know, said a little bit louder for the national audience. But positively
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  or negatively, they can't be like, man, this guy was great as
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  a rookie, he's going to be an All Pro. Or man, this
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  guy didn't do anything as a rookie. He sucks. It's no, you
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  can't. You can't do that. But as we got closer to the draft
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  last year, and I understood it because you know, trade's based and trades
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  versus production in that conversation that's so prevalent now. But the amount of people
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  that were just like, you know, I think Tyree Wilson is edged one
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  and will Anderson is too. You know what I take Tyroue, I was,
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  why are we doing this? Dewell Anderson right, like, oh,
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  he doesn't really have enough moves and he doesn't really it's like he just dominates.
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  That's all he does. Well, he only has speed to power in
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  a bull rush. Fine, it works every single time, and he also
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  plays the run. And then look what like the rookie year, that what
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  he did, and you're helping to spearhead that defense for Houston versus Tyree Wilson
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  just being absent on the pretty much like it on tape and on the box
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  score week after week for Oakland. Again, different trajectories and timelines, but
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  I feel like we get that so much. And my thought coming into this
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  year was we're gonna see that for Caleb Williams, which we did, and
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  yet Drake may a lot of it too, Like I I don't know what
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  it is with Jayden Daniels. I don't know if it's because of you know,
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  when he left Arizona State and his teammates like took all his stuff and
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  threw it out because they hated him so much. And I don't know if
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  it's like I remember mature to me, I was like, I feel like
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  that's not a reflection on him. That's just college kids realizing we just lost
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  a great talent and we're pissed and we're gonna do you know that I don't
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  hold against sim person, And I don't know if it or if it's like
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  that or like the emotion, like, you know, my dad went to
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  Arizona State, so obviously, like we support Arizona State. But I don't
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  know if it's because like I watched all those Jade and Daniels Arizona State games
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  and they never won, and I'm always just like, I hate you.
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  And then he went to LSU and won the Heisman, and I'm like,
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  God, I hate you still, like but you just it's funny to see
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  the journey that he's been on, the journey that McCarthy has been on,
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  and juxtaposing both of their draft journeys with Williams in May earlier in the year,
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  it was just like Williams in May and Williams in May and the people
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  wanted to put May over Williams. Then this this season has gone along and
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  it's like, no, May sucks too. You want McCarthy and you want
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  Daniels and prospect fatigue is super super real. So I love, I love
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  that comment from you, and I think it sets us up in a really
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  good direction for this episode. So again, folks playing at home another another
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  episode, were building this drill Bills, Drills, Yikes, Drills, baftboard
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  fall nine minutes in falling apart already verbally this is terrible Bill well then the
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  Bills draft board. But the focus in this episode is through the lens of
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  an opponent, through the lens of an enemy, through the lens of a
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  non Bills related person, or the Bills team itself. What do you not
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  want to see them do? So on and so forth, all that type
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  show notes whether you're here on YouTube or whichever podcasting app or platform you
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  are listening to this show on. Before we get into the enemy specific things.
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  We're gonna hit some high level stuff for the Bills, which I've been
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  doing with all the guests that have been on the show. So Taylor,
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  we're just gonna start with some you know, broad stuff, but obviously we've
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  been some details, prospects, specific scheme stuff. Whatever you got, the
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  floor is yours. So the top three things that the Buffalo Bills need to
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  accomplish in this draft. You can start with your third or your first,
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  or your second. Whatever you got, the floor is yours. I'll start
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  with I'll start with my third. Uh safety. Okay, I feel like
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  that's I feel like that's pretty obvious. I like Taylor Rapp. I like
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  him better as a third safety, as a rotational guy. I don't love
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  him as a starter. Mike Edwards kind of the same category, where like,
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  I mean, he's had success, Can he be a starter? Sure?
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  Much more comfortable with him as a spot starter. But I also understand,
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  like Michael Hyde and Jordan Poyer fantastic players. A lot of respect for
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  them, but the injuries and the age were undeniable factors. And the fact
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  that you don't have just like you're not missing one starting safety, really quality
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  starting safety, but two that's terrifying. Now, this is coming from someone
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  who followed the Patriots in twenty eleven, the year that Devin mccordy really late
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  in the year had to move to safety because they didn't have any safeties.
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  It is one of the most frustrating places to be as a fan. We
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  cannot cover the deep part of the field, and especially with this Bill's defense,
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  where they play a ton of different coverages like they're spinning the rollod CKX
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  and you don't really know what you're gonna get. A big part of that
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  was because you had a hide employer on the back end, great communicators,
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  able to get everybody in line, could execute in disguise and just give people
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  headaches. You don't really have that now, maybe you do, you know,
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  Mike Edwards been in the league for a long time. Maybe you still
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  have the physical ability. But those guys aren't really rangy, you know,
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  I don't really think they're capable of being those kinds of players. So,
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  especially considering you know, this isn't a great safety class, I think you
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  can find some solid players in the middle, you know, with specific roles
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  in mind, but you know they're not player and they're not hive, so
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  it's gonna be tough for them to fill this. I think they may end
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  up going into the year with this being still a pretty significant area of need.
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  Obviously, you know, veterans get cut for one reason or another.
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  You can trade, there's still options. It's still very early, but that
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  when I would say is probably it's three, but it's still a pretty big
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  area of need. It's only three because of positional value, and even still,
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  like I said, not having safeties is a very tough place to be,
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  especially you know in this division where you have to play the Dolphins twice
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  a year at least. Love that. It's so funny too to see there's
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  multiple answers that you could have for the top three. I really feel like
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  with this Bills draft, because they did so much this offseason and like roster
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  turnover but also mitigating needs. I feel like if you ask ten different people
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  like this question, you'd literally get ten different answers and different orders and all
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  that kind of stuff. Safety is definitely one though that it's on the fans
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  mind, it's on mine as well, and I think you hit the crux
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  of it, like you first of all, even if Mike Edwards is awesome.
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  He's on a one year deal. So say Mike Edwards balls out this
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  year, I don't know, does he sign like a really nice contract somewhere
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  else next year because you can't afford him. But even just going into twenty
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  twenty four, Yeah, the Wrap Edwards pairing is interesting because Mike Edwards I
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  think is above average at like almost everything. Like he can play too high
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  looks, he can play some single high stuff. You can use him as
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  a dimelnebacker. He's fine coming forward. Sometimes he'll miss some tackles like that
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  kind of stuff. But yet in neither Edwards nor High do you really have
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  a true post safety with that type of single high range where you can play
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  Cover one or Cover three and you know like, oh well, this dude
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  can go sideline to sideline, like RAP is more suited. I still think
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  Rap is best suited to be around the box, like as that kind of
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  buzz safety or that you know, sky kind of safety and Cover three looks.
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  But if you're playing Cover two, that's fine or Cover four cool.
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  You can live in that too high world, and I think Edwards is in
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  I think Edwards is more like if we had to put it into perspective.
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  Granted, Jordan Poyer and Mike I Hid, I think really and this Bill's
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  team worth the forefront of that change of removing the strong and free tags from
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  safety, and they were just safeties. Yes, Hide was more free and
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  Poyer was more strong, but they really weren't interchangeable, and you could do
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  both. But I think both Edwards and rap are more strong than they are
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  free. And I think they're both more Jordan Poyer than they are like one
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  of each. Go ahead. And it's funny because the Patriots were in the
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  same boat last season where even this season right now, they don't have a
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  real free safety. Now, I will say I think Jabro Peppers is pretty
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  underrated, and what he was able to do for them last season, he
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  was a very good free safety. I thought he should have been in the
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  Pro Bowl conversation because I like as a free safety. Obviously he you know,
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  he plays some slot in big nickel packages. Its close to the line,
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  he still has chances to make plays. But in that deep part of
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  the field, he showed range, he showed recognition, so he kind of
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  bailed him out. And then he had like Marte Mapu, who you know,
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  I love, but it was very obvious. There was a pretty steep
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  learning curve. He was telling us earlier that he really hadn't played free safety.
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  You could see it. Kyle Dugger had one of the worst seasons of
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  his career, and a lot of it was because he was playing a ton
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  of free safety. So you know, like the Patriots again got bailed out
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  by the fact that Peppers was actually pretty good at free safety because he was
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  off the ACL for a couple of seasons and he's just smart enough that he
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  could diagnose things. But yeah, you're talking about guys who don't even have
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  a ton of experience in that role, so it's really more of a projection,
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  and you might be forced into more of those two high looks because you're
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  just trying to make sure that neither guy's really playing outside of their comfort zone.
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  And that then ties into like part of why I wanted defensive line so
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  addressed this offseason, even after all the moves, because I'm like, Okay,
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  you're gonna play too safety. You're gonna be two high safeties. You're
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  probably having light boxes. You're playing nickel a bunch. So Taron Johnson's in
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  there, your linebackers are Matt Malano and Terrell Bernard both awesome. Bernard is
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  the size of a big safety, so you're small in the box. Your
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  defensive line has to be thorough rep after rep. If you're gonna play more
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  too high looks and again, you can play Cover one or you can play
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  Cover three, but then you're not gonna have necessarily that range in the post
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  that you'd like and say, and it's it's so frustrating thing addressing the safety
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  spot for the Bills because now with the Stefan Diggs trade, I think even
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  before it was gonna be tough to really go safety in round one or two
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  given the rest of the needs on this roster and how the board was gonna
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  shake out this safety class in general, like you spoke about. But now
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  after the Digs trade, yeah, you probably can't. I don't want to.
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  I don't want to make guarantees, especially about something this projection based is
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  the draft. But I came close to being like, you're not going safety
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  in the first two rounds. You don't have a third round pick, so
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  you go from pick twenty eight to pick sixty to pick one twenty eight.
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  You do need a safety. That's why I've been so focused on like I
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  do like Tyler Numan, and I do like Cam Kitchens and Javon Bullard and
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  some of the safety towards the top. But really safety is another position in
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  this class. If you have ten different people who their top five safeties are,
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  you'll get like ten different combos and a bunch. I really like Malik
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  Mustafa. A lot of people had him as like a day three guy safety
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  from Wake Forest. He's Nate Tice's safety one on his big board in fifty
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  third overall prospect, which I think is awesome, But I like, I
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  think you have to look into that day three realm of safety, which still
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  works because with wrapping Edwards, I think you have a fine enough floor you
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  don't need to You don't need a starting safety right now for twenty twenty four,
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  but you need some more quality depth potentially for twenty twenty four and then
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  again for twenty twenty five and beyond, because right now you're you're sitting here
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  having the same exact conversation next year, depending on what what happens with Mike
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  Edwards and Raps. Deal was a three year deal but really kind of more
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  of a two and there's some outs early on, so they need to get
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  some youth at that spot, some long term answers, and ideally some more
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  not that, not to speak negatively, have Edwards a rap, but not
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  I don't think there is anywhere close to as interchangeable as Hide and Poyer were.
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  Both are more in that strong role those that too high world, and
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  we'll see how it impacts them from a coverage perspective. Right, So that
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  was your three. What's your two out of your top three things that Bill
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  need to accomplish in this draft? You kind of stole my two. Man,
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  it was defensive line, but luckily for you, I had defensive line,
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  but it was because I had written over offensive line, specifically guards.
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  So I'll see I'll touch on both. No, dude, the line for
• 19:30
  the reasons you said, you're gonna need to get quick pressure. You're gonna
• 19:33
  have to be able to hold up with these light boxes. I love Diguan
• 19:37
  Jones, Help's been an issue for him, and Oliver obviously is fantastic.
• 19:41
  I also don't love the depth with the defensive line, and I think the
• 19:45
  best defensive lines are the ones where you can rotate keep guys fresh. I
• 19:48
  like Greg Russo a jan Panessa feels like more of a rotational guy to me.
• 19:52
  Maybe I'm wrong, that's just kind of the sense I've gotten von Miller.
• 19:55
  I don't know what you're getting from him. I'm not banking on him
• 19:56
  at all. And then I'm with you for the rest of the depth chart
• 19:59
  and I'm just like I frankly, I'm not very familiar with these guys and
• 20:02
  that's a problem. Could they find a sleeper, Yeah, sure, fantastic,
• 20:04
  But again we're talking about a roster that already has needs in the secondary
• 20:10
  linebackers. Fast athletic Matt Milano is one of the best in the game,
• 20:14
  all the respect the world. Like you said, Ryl Bernard's gunna need somebody
• 20:17
  who could just keep him clean to make those plays and play downhill. So
• 20:21
  defensive line, you touched on a lot of it, so I'm not gonna
• 20:22
  go super into that, but losing Mitch Morse forist and Connor mcgovernor, I
• 20:26
  believe he's going to play center now. Yeah, which was also kind of
• 20:30
  like he did an interview where you could tell he kind of danced around it
• 20:34
  or felt like maybe he potentially said more than he should have, but they
• 20:37
  talked to him about moving to center at the end of the year, and
• 20:41
  like in a larger conversation, and he like he was trying to backtrack or
• 20:45
  really rephrase, but he kept saying like the plan was, to kind of
• 20:48
  paraphrase it, the plan was for him to move to center, but he
• 20:52
  didn't expect Mitch Morse to go out in the way that he did or be
• 20:55
  gone in all this year, So that it does look like that was kind
• 20:59
  of a long term, not necessarily kneed jerk reaction, but it's a significant
• 21:03
  change considering how well Morch Morch Morse played in space versus what Connor McGovern is,
• 21:10
  which is more of an anchorer, more of a secure the depth of
• 21:12
  the pocket guy. And then obviously you're pairing it with the change at left
• 21:15
  guard as well, which is a significant change. Yeah. So, I
• 21:18
  mean, and especially with Josh Allen, like we know, still very good
• 21:23
  last season, it felt like he kind of was more evil Josh Allen than
• 21:26
  I think a lot of people were expecting. And a lot of that is
• 21:30
  pressure. If he's clean, that makes the process a lot easier because you
• 21:33
  don't have to account for especially interior pressure. Can he beat it, absolutely,
• 21:37
  but having that weak link on the inside, especially with O Cyrus Torrance.
• 21:41
  Like I know, the Bills graded really well in past protection, but
• 21:44
  as someone who watched Christian Barmore take it to Cyrus Torrance consistently like it helps.
• 21:48
  With Christian Wilkins is out of the division, don't really need to worry
• 21:51
  about him as much. But Zach Sieler is not too bad either. But
• 21:53
  yeah, I you hope that Torrence will be able to develop and maybe be
• 21:59
  more technically sounds can compensate for the fact that he's really more of a big
• 22:02
  guy, not the springiest guy. I don't even know if that's where you
• 22:06
  know we're words here, but yeah, I really do think the interior of
• 22:10
  that line for sure is one where I'm thinking you might want to get a
• 22:14
  quality guard in there, which again is also hard because of the first need
• 22:18
  that I have here where I think the Bills might need a double dip.
• 22:21
  And that's just gonna really emphasize finding depth and obviously finding interior line depth.
• 22:26
  If you're looking at a position where you're kind of look more on day three,
• 22:29
  that's where you'd like it to be, but still you're putting yourself in
• 22:32
  a tough spot. No absolutely, and I think your line call is spot
• 22:34
  on. But before the Digs trade, my sneaky kind of pick in the
• 22:38
  first round for the Bills was corner potentially just because Rasoul Douglas is a UFA
• 22:44
  next year, Kyrie Elam's your corner three this year, you don't really know
• 22:47
  what you're getting. And just with how I think the first twenty seven picks
• 22:49
  will go, I think you're sitting there at twenty eight and there's gonna be
• 22:52
  a good corner that is going to be sitting there that can be that could
• 22:56
  be a CB two this year, even if you don't need him, be
• 22:57
  a CB one next year. But the bigger that I thought was gonna be
• 23:00
  interior offensive line, like if Jackson powers Johnson fell, or if Graham Barton
• 23:03
  fell from Duke. I was sitting there thinking boom and everybody. Even before
• 23:07
  the Digs trade, a lot of fans were mad, being like, oh,
• 23:11
  you gotta get a receiver, you gotta help Josh Allen. Blocking also
• 23:15
  helps Josh Allen, especially on the interior. And I know that Edwards penciled
• 23:18
  in is that left guard, but two years, six million, that's not
• 23:22
  one. That's not a long term commitment too. You can get out of
• 23:23
  it this year or next if you really want to. Three. He gives
• 23:26
  you a fine floor, but you could still do better. And I will
• 23:30
  never complain for a pick from a team that is either offensive line or corner
• 23:36
  just because I think those positions are premium. Dudes get hurt and banged up
• 23:40
  with them all the time, and so I thought the interior O line was
• 23:41
  a sneaky one defensive tackle and edge D line as a whole was the biggest
• 23:47
  need for the Bills this offseason. They had nobody under contract, and I
• 23:49
  think you laid out everything pretty well. And if we start with edge,
• 23:52
  it's something I've that gooed on to this show. Greg Russeau is a one
• 23:56
  against the run and a two if you're like edge one edge two, he's
• 24:00
  a two versus the pass. In terms of pastors. He's still putting things
• 24:03
  together. He's effective. He keeps getting banged up lower body stuff, which
• 24:07
  is unfortunate, but he's been a really good player for them. Like overall,
• 24:11
  he's one of the best run defenders at edge in the entire league,
• 24:14
  probably one of the best run defending defensive linemen. He's still putting together some
• 24:17
  past or stuff, but he's still effective. Von Miller Yeah, Like,
• 24:21
  I don't think von Miller's gonna be a one this year. I'm hoping he
• 24:25
  can be a two, but I feel like realistically it's more like a three
• 24:27
  or a two and a half. And then aj Apanessa is who I liked,
• 24:33
  and I think he's still as sending right now he's a three. I
• 24:37
  think at best he's a two. And then you got Casey two Hill where
• 24:41
  you signed from Washington. You've got Jonathan or Kingsey Jonathan who you have for
• 24:45
  the past couple of years on the practice squad, Like who's shown some flashes
• 24:48
  that I like, but you really don't have, Like who's Greg Russeau's running
• 24:52
  mate. And then aside from that, who is the third or fourth man
• 24:55
  in your rotation? Like and edge has been a sneaky need. What sucks
• 24:59
  with this class is edge. Aside from Dallas Turner, Jared Verse, and
• 25:03
  Lai tou Latu, there's not really an edge worth their salt in the first
• 25:07
  round. Although I do like Darius Robinson from Missouri and I do think he
• 25:10
  is an archetype fit. But the edge class isn't the most thorough or the
• 25:14
  most deep, and again you're probably looking at one on day three based on
• 25:18
  what you have to do early with these moves and defensive tackle. Yeah,
• 25:21
  similar boat as well. I like that they signed Austin Johnson after they brought
• 25:25
  in Daikwon Jones, but you need a legitimate backup three tech to Ed Oliver
• 25:30
  like you do not have that right now. And also again with how you
• 25:33
  nailed it, the Bills rotate a ton just like everybody does in the NFL
• 25:37
  on their defensive line, just like college football, does you really need like
• 25:41
  it's not even just like a top four, you really need like a solid
• 25:45
  top six minimum, or ideally, if you're trying to roll like closer to
• 25:48
  like a top seven, you need to be able to have hockey style defensive
• 25:51
  lines up front where you can just have line changes and you're rolling and you're
• 25:55
  keeping everybody fresh and there's minimal drop off or you're mitigating that drop off.
• 25:59
  And that's also reason why again before her Diggs was traded, my hope in
• 26:03
  round one was like Barton or Jackson powers Johnson would fall or Johnny Newton from
• 26:07
  Illinois, who I absolutely love, and then you're putting him in a rotational
• 26:11
  role behind ed Oliver and then on passing downs or non passing situations, it's
• 26:17
  ed Oliver and Newton as the starters on the interior, or you get you
• 26:21
  can get fun and move ed out to edge or kick Johnny out and do
• 26:22
  some different things. But then you have a real solid top three on the
• 26:26
  interior. But alas, some things have gone differently now for the Buffalo Bills
• 26:30
  and their board because of the trade of Stefon Diggs. And I'm guessing your
• 26:33
  first thing that the Bills need to accomplish in this draft is wide receiver.
• 26:40
  You guessed? Do it? I mean I like me some mac collins.
• 26:44
  I like mccollins. Curtis Samuel, I think is a good player, and
• 26:51
  I like it for the money they got him for basically the three year,
• 26:52
  twenty four million dollar deal. Like that's fine. All these guys look better
• 26:59
  when paired witz the Fon Diggs or a true number one and with him gone.
• 27:03
  Yeah, it's it's understandable because like with Curtis Damuel, he gives you
• 27:07
  some explosiveness, Like injuries are always a concern, but like if it was
• 27:11
  like Khuil Shakiro, who really came on late last season. I don't know
• 27:12
  how you feel about him, but it seemed like he really was starting to
• 27:15
  figure things out. So if he's your starting slot, I like Curtis Samuel
• 27:18
  and Mac Collins kind of on different ends of the spectrum, as if they
• 27:22
  were guy opposite Digs. Well, Mac Collins gives you that huge guy guys,
• 27:26
  he's a good blocker, so if you want to use him maybe on
• 27:29
  early down some play action opportunities on like Digs are really just a big boy
• 27:32
  throwser you put it up and let him go get it. I like that.
• 27:34
  Then Curtis Samuels your guy who's running me stop routes. No, really
• 27:38
  more of a savvy route runner type, not really going to take the top
• 27:41
  off, but he's really good in that intermediate part of the field and he's
• 27:44
  not going to drop a lot of passes if you have a number one.
• 27:47
  I like that rotation. But now it's looking like, what is Matt Collins
• 27:49
  your ex and then Curtis Samuels reci or just like I don't I Andy Isabella
• 27:56
  as someone who Matriots fans have just been and kJ Hamler actually too, or
• 27:59
  guys Peters just gog got bored. I'm like why dude, and Andy Isabella
• 28:04
  balled out a little in the preseason and the amount of course he did,
• 28:08
  of course, and I started calling him like Andy Goda Goda Bella, just
• 28:11
  because of how people were talking about it, Like there were so many people
• 28:15
  are like, like the prophecy has been fulfilled when it came to Andy Isabella,
• 28:19
  like he and I get it. He's like fun it's so funny.
• 28:22
  The bats fancy in that way because he was like he was a hot topic
• 28:25
  in the preseason for the Bills, just and he had all these great reps
• 28:27
  and he was shining in practice and so many fans for it. Yeah,
• 28:30
  he's the guy who will look amazing against that level of competition because he has
• 28:36
  physical talent. Yes, he's not really like a football player. He's just
• 28:40
  not a very good football player and he's tiny and like he's fast, but
• 28:44
  like, really, there's not a lot. I remember watching him. I
• 28:45
  was excited because I think when the Cardinals first cut him, I was like,
• 28:48
  all right, let's see what working with, Like what's this guy got.
• 28:52
  I was like, oh, I remember in his college tape too fondly.
• 28:57
  I was not that was not a good projection. I always have those
• 29:00
  dudes too that like they'll be it'll be like year nine of them in the
• 29:03
  NFL and we know who they are, but they'll be a free agent.
• 29:06
  And I'm still thinking of them with their college tape and I'm like, man,
• 29:08
  I would love to get this guy. I think he could be this,
• 29:11
  this and this, and it's like, no, Anthony, He's like,
• 29:14
  he's not going to be that guy. You know who he is a
• 29:15
  reasoning, Yeah, there's a reason that his career has gone the way it
• 29:18
  has. You always hope that maybe, like you just like a Russello Douglas
• 29:22
  where he's just gonna shine out of nowhere, and it's like, oh,
• 29:25
  it was just a delayed kind of career arc. But then you look at
• 29:26
  a guy again like an Isabella who is tiny, so it's already like realistically,
• 29:30
  the expectations are pretty small and he just you know, I don't want
• 29:33
  to pick on him. That feels really mean, But yeah, this Receiving
• 29:37
  Corps, it looks pretty terrifying, to be totally honest, and I don't
• 29:41
  I don't really want to go in on it because I feel like it's pretty
• 29:44
  straightforward. I want to go in just to be mean, but I'm not
• 29:47
  going to it's they need help. They need serious help. You need a
• 29:51
  number one obviously, But then I think you also want some youth to infuse
• 29:53
  there, so you have some kind of long term options where you're not just
• 29:56
  looking at like what are I'm guessing Mac it's on a one year deal?
• 30:00
  What is Curtis Samuel on like a two year deal? Three years, twenty
• 30:03
  four million? But if they wanted to get out attitude, they could Yeah,
• 30:07
  yeah, so that's that's fair for him. But again, if he's
• 30:11
  your Z and maybe you have like a younger guy behind him, that's an
• 30:14
  ideal plan with like a good X kind of But the way the situation is
• 30:18
  right now, it's just looking very average, and especially considering like Josh's play
• 30:22
  style, where you really need guys who are gonna be on the field consistently
• 30:26
  where you can get that chemistry. I just wonder how effective they're gonna be
• 30:30
  and if they can earn that trust, just because I don't know if they're
• 30:32
  talented enough to really be those guys where you know he's rolling to his right
• 30:36
  and he's like, oh, e fit Curtis Samuel down there somewhere, Like
• 30:38
  is that who he is. I don't really think so, Yeah, it's
• 30:41
  not the same being like, oh it takes us down there, let me
• 30:42
  chuck it up. It's it's it's funny how the conversation around the receiver room
• 30:48
  has changed since the trade. And I think what what mitigates some of the
• 30:52
  digs loss is the presence of dalton kin Kid. Like I think you're I
• 30:56
  think you're looking at like right now we're just talking about forget receiver, we're
• 31:00
  talking about pass catchers. Dalton Kin Kid is your one, and then your
• 31:03
  two is probably Samuel or Shakir. But then again, like I've said this
• 31:08
  a bunch of the show, like if you factor in the run game,
• 31:11
  because they're gonna run the football, they have a good run game. James
• 31:15
  Cook is gonna get the ball on the ground, and in the past,
• 31:18
  Kinkaid is your one. Maybe Cook in terms of touches not just targets,
• 31:22
  is your two, and then it's Shakir and Samuel Dawson, Knox, Matt
• 31:26
  Collins wherever you can fit in. But he's throne around that receiver though you
• 31:30
  know what I mean, Yes, and you have to and you you hit
• 31:33
  a buzzword that I've been big on like they need that true ex presence,
• 31:37
  Like that's what they need. It's part of the reason A guy who I
• 31:41
  know, you know, and we were talking about a couple of weeks ago.
• 31:44
  So I've been so high on Javon Baker this whole offseason since leading into
• 31:48
  the Senior Bowl. Like, my thought was, man, well, I
• 31:51
  also thought the Bills were gonna get a third round compick. They didn't.
• 31:52
  I still don't know how they didn't, but whatever, that's conversation another time.
• 31:56
  My hope was going into Senior Bowl is like, yes, third round
• 32:00
  pick on Javon Baker. Then he started to shoot up boards him like that's
• 32:01
  fine, pick sixty second. Overall, Javon Baker, boom your X type.
• 32:06
  And even if they go receiver early, you still need that ex presence
• 32:12
  like that double dip which could potentially happen. I'll say that as we go
• 32:15
  forward a little bit like he but even if you went with so I know
• 32:19
  some people used using the camp like some people really like Lad McConkey. That's
• 32:22
  awesome. I think Lad McConkie's sweet. You have to get an X receiver
• 32:24
  after you draft Lad mcconakie like, I really like Xavier Worthy. That's awesome.
• 32:29
  You have to get like you have to take Xavier Worthy or Lad mccakie
• 32:31
  and then draft Javon Baker. It's different if you get Brian Thomas Junior or
• 32:36
  ad Mitchell or even Xavier again because of his profile. You need that frame,
• 32:40
  that skill set, the ability to beat press, the ability to kind
• 32:44
  of dunk on dudes, or play above the catch point, play big separated
• 32:47
  the catch point. You need that skill set on that side in those formations.
• 32:52
  And it was such a different conversation, and I know you can be.
• 32:57
  I also don't want to get this confused with people thinking like an X
• 33:00
  has to be your number one because Tyreek Hill is in an X and he's
• 33:02
  a number one wide receiver. Most really good receivers are z's and I think
• 33:07
  it's Z is where you showcase your best talent unless they can't play Z.
• 33:09
  That's fair. Oh, this is excellent timing. This comment just came in
• 33:13
  and said, is Tyreek killing X? No pigs the buffalo? He is
• 33:15
  a Z. Great question, well time, and that Z is for those
• 33:19
  who don't know, Z is more of your movement guy, the guy you
• 33:22
  put in think of Tyreek Hill, the guy you put in motion, you
• 33:24
  throw him around in different spots. You can line him up in the backfiel
• 33:27
  at the start, and then he gets split out. You're putting him in
• 33:29
  all kinds of different motions, or he's in those bunches, or he's in
• 33:32
  those trips or stacks. And again the Z is more of like the motion
• 33:36
  guy or like the off ball type receiver. Your X is think Julio Jones,
• 33:40
  Like that's what the prototype is. You're on the line. You have
• 33:44
  to be able to have a release package to beat press. You have to
• 33:45
  be able to have good stem work and good route running, probably a pretty
• 33:50
  complete route tree. You have to be able to win at different points at
• 33:52
  the line in your stem on the break jump balls turn fifty to fifty balls
• 33:57
  into eighty twenty balls. T HIG is another like X type of wide receiver.
• 34:01
  Like that's where you're trying to go for that conversation, and the Bills
• 34:05
  need that. I think Daniel Janeremiah is the one who said it, like
• 34:07
  you build your wide receiver room like a basketball lineup, and the Bills have
• 34:13
  if you're good fair exactly for that reason, because you have to be able
• 34:16
  to cover those types. And I think the Bills wide receiver room is very
• 34:20
  much like a small ball lineup of point guards and two guards and then you
• 34:24
  have like one center and Matt Collins or a power forward. You need to
• 34:29
  round that out with a small forward and or again you can lean into more
• 34:32
  guards. You still need that power forward. You need that X presence.
• 34:36
  And that's what I think what also complicates that needed wide receiver for the Bills
• 34:40
  because while this is a very very very deep wide receiver class, it's not
• 34:45
  necessarily a deep X class. You have a lot of fun guys that can
• 34:50
  do a lot of things, especially on the day two stuff like people will
• 34:52
  be like, oh Jalen Polk and oh Jaylen McMillan, Oh this is funny
• 34:55
  for picks Bull. Yeah, the twenty twenty Rockets, they have a small
• 34:58
  ball lineup all day. That's what you're thinking. No, it might just
• 35:00
  clink and then clin capella and that's what you got. They have like that
• 35:05
  small ball lineup. You need that specific body type, that frame, that
• 35:08
  presence, and that I think also not necessarily pigeonholes them but also pushes them
• 35:14
  in the direction and makes this conversation a little harder because if Days was still
• 35:17
  there, I'd be fine if you just took lad McConkie. I still would
• 35:21
  rather have a true X, but I'd be fine with that. Now,
• 35:23
  with all the changes, you kind of need two receivers, and one of
• 35:27
  them basically has to be an EX. Again, it doesn't have to be.
• 35:29
  You could double dip and go Xavier Worthy and Laddi McConkie. It's just
• 35:32
  gonna limit you schematically because you don't necessarily have that profile in your wide receiver
• 35:37
  room. Yeah, and also I saw somebody acting like it's Michael Thomas an
• 35:42
  X you would think kind of because he's big and all that stuff, But
• 35:45
  you also need speed like you don't need you could beat DeVante Parker where it's
• 35:49
  just enough that you are a threat and they can't just leave you one on
• 35:52
  one and say we're not really worried about him, Like you need to be
• 35:54
  just fast enough. And that's where, like I mean, there's really no
• 35:58
  such thing as a deep X class because there aren't many real true X receivers.
• 36:02
  The guys who are big, fast, strong, they go in the
• 36:06
  first round. They're really rob Like we talked about it before, like Brian
• 36:09
  Thomas is the example of like, if you have an ex skill set,
• 36:14
  even if you don't run the route tree, you're going in the first round
• 36:16
  because those guys are so hard to find that they are highly coveted. Then
• 36:21
  you start looking later. It's like other EX is like a Brandan Rice is
• 36:23
  like a true X, but he's not really fast. He's more physical and
• 36:28
  like has that build up speed. So you can find guys, but they're
• 36:31
  not really ideal fits because again, really you want that X to be a
• 36:35
  guy like even digs where he's not the fastest guy in the world, but
• 36:37
  he's fast enough. And then his route running, his physicality is pacing it
• 36:42
  compliments it. We're like, yeah, no, he's gonna run a curl,
• 36:45
  Like we talked about this for it runs like a curl three times and
• 36:47
  then that fourth time it's a double movie. You're like, and then all
• 36:52
  hell breaks lose. So yeah, it's it's it's just a really hard position
• 36:54
  to find. The Patriots seed one too, and they have to spend their
• 36:58
  first round pick on a quarterback. Don't want them to trade back into the
• 37:00
  first round to get a receiver. So yeah, it's that. Johnny Wilson
• 37:05
  actuain. Johnny Wilson is in that conversation. It's part of the reason why
• 37:08
  Kean Coleman is in that conversation because of that size. Like it's not even
• 37:14
  if you don't have the polish that you necessarily want from a rookie coming out
• 37:17
  exactly your point. That's why these dudes with the size profile like Brian Thomas
• 37:22
  Junior is a great example. Like you're six foot three, two hundred ten
• 37:24
  pounds and you run a four to three forty, Okay, we're gonna take
• 37:28
  you. Because we can't teach size and speed and athleticism. We think we
• 37:30
  can teach you a route treat and we think we can go from there.
• 37:32
  Johnny Wilson is an interesting one. Like he so many people were talking about
• 37:37
  like moving him to tight end, moving him to tight end, but his
• 37:39
  tape is Oh, I say, you're not a fan of that movement,
• 37:42
  but he you would expect him to be No, I was. I came
• 37:45
  into it, like I remember watching him during the year and I was like,
• 37:49
  oh man, this is he's sweet, this is fun. And then
• 37:52
  going into the Senior Bowl, everybody was like, oh, he's got to
• 37:53
  move to tight end. He's got to move to tight end. And then
• 37:54
  I was watching the tape and I was just like, he he can late.
• 37:59
  Like I feel like Johnny Wilson is the wide receiver version of the Cooper
• 38:01
  Degene conversation where it's like, well, he's got to move to safety.
• 38:04
  It's like, but he he's fine at corner. Just leave him at corner.
• 38:08
  And granted, I'm I'm a bit lower on Cooper Degene than a lot
• 38:12
  of other people. I'll say that conversation for another time, but yeah,
• 38:14
  Johnny Wilson's a full one. But again, that's that's the world that you're
• 38:16
  trying to live in, Like you have to have that size profile or if
• 38:21
  not, that skill set profile, like you said for Stefan Diggs, like
• 38:24
  he no, he's not the biggest guy or not the fastest, but he
• 38:28
  can route up anybody at any moment, at any time, he can get
• 38:30
  off the line. He's good enough like in pretty much every situation and an
• 38:35
  elite in others. And it's why, man, Yeah, that that's why
• 38:38
  kind of in that category where like he doesn't really take the top off because
• 38:43
  of speed, but he's so good at setting up defenders and that's why I
• 38:45
  didn't like the tight end talk because I'm like, no, I'm watching him
• 38:50
  in the Senior Bowl against cornerbacks and they are clearly very uncomfortable covering him.
• 38:54
  That doesn't really happen with tight ends, especially guys who were used to playing
• 38:58
  outside. So obviously he's not digs, Like, you know, the size
• 39:00
  and all that's different, But in the way they play where they just know
• 39:04
  how to win one on one, I think they're in that similar category where
• 39:07
  like they can still play X even though you know, Johnny Wilson has a
• 39:10
  size profile step On Diggs didn't have as much the side profile, but he
• 39:14
  had a little bit more Speedmils says that was much speed, but the size
• 39:16
  compensates for the fact that he can still get open just by rounding you up.
• 39:20
  Yeah, and he's freaking Godzilla And how do you cover like Godzilla at
• 39:22
  the wide receiver position. The spider chart is insane? Yes, you know
• 39:28
  what's the spider chart is insane. Mohammed Kamara the edge from Colorado State,
• 39:31
  where when you're talking about edge guys, he's a sleeper. He's a good
• 39:35
  player, but his profile is all like all the athletic metrics are like expanded
• 39:39
  out and then size, weight, arm length, hand size are all like
• 39:44
  basically at the center and you got nothing, you know, Anthony Gould,
• 39:46
  Yes, it's the same way. It's like his explosive numbers like damn and
• 39:52
  then his like his size numbers like peeking out. It's wild, it's wild.
• 39:58
  And want to clarify this tool this from neosay and sir Diggs is a
• 40:00
  good route runner, but he is not a physical wide receiver at all.
• 40:04
  That was part of the problem. Diggs doesn't give a physical wide receiver that
• 40:07
  takes the top off the defense. And Gabe wasn't doing that when Diggs was
• 40:10
  a true one. And I still think of parts last year. Diggs isn't
• 40:15
  like a physical receiver from the if you're thinking of a physical receiver like I
• 40:20
  don't know, like again talking about guys like Keon Coleman, guys who go
• 40:22
  up in moss dudes and play above the room. But he's physical from the
• 40:24
  perspective of if you try to jam him, yes, and as a route
• 40:28
  runner, he can chop you off, he can throw you by, he
• 40:30
  can give it as good as he can get it and still get free.
• 40:32
  He's not somebody that's bodying guys in the stem, but physical from the perspective
• 40:37
  of if you press him, he can get off, like he can handle
• 40:40
  you getting physical with him. He's not a route runner. And I said
• 40:45
  it all the time where the Patriots consistently have those kinds of bully corners on
• 40:50
  the outside. They like their long press corners, and Diggs will succeeding consistently
• 40:53
  because you're not gonna bully step on Diggs if you want to get into a
• 40:57
  boxing match with him. The technique obviously top say for the fact that he's
• 41:00
  not the biggest guy, but he also sometimes it's just like toughness in your
• 41:04
  attitude and that like do you want to be physical? And he wanted to
• 41:07
  be physical, so yeah, absolutely, like he's not the guy who's gonna
• 41:09
  go up and lost anybody like you said. But I wouldn't say he's not
• 41:13
  physical because he is definitely a physical player, even if he doesn't have that
• 41:17
  physical skill set. Yes, and again that's part of it too. I
• 41:20
  think the conversation, like with that X spot, it isn't necessarily tied to
• 41:24
  frame like you don't it typically or traditionally is, but you don't have to
• 41:30
  look like Julio Jones. But if you have a skill set that can compensate
• 41:34
  for some of those pieces where you're off again, that's where the whole scouting
• 41:37
  and evaluation piece comes in, and projection and all that kind of stuff.
• 41:39
  I also love this comment from Billy who said, digs out a PhD in
• 41:43
  route running. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And when you're when
• 41:45
  you're that good, Diggs is a good example right of an ex not the
• 41:49
  biggest. He wasn't Julio Jones with size and frame or even speed, But
• 41:52
  when you're so good at route running, that's why I even think Glad McConkie
• 41:58
  the size and frame is gonna limit him a little little bit. But like
• 42:00
  man, he can win vertically with speed or with his route running. Like
• 42:02
  when you're elite as a route runner or in one specific area, it allows
• 42:07
  you to kind of mitigate some of your other potential deficiencies or work on those
• 42:12
  and improve those if they're technique based. Again, if you're Brian Thomas and
• 42:15
  it's like, man, you don't have a full route tree, it's like
• 42:17
  that's fine, you're huge and fast, and then we'll kind of figure it
• 42:21
  out and go from there. Yeah, man, all right, let's turn
• 42:24
  the page now. Buffalo Bill's draft board through the eyes of an enemy,
• 42:30
  Taylor, you are that enemy. This is kind of the crux of where
• 42:35
  we get to with this episode is we laid out some things first again the
• 42:37
  top three things the Bills need to accomplish in this draft just looking at it
• 42:39
  holistically, but as an enemy, Who or what do you not want to
• 42:45
  see the Buffalo Bills come away with in round one? It could be a
• 42:49
  player, it could be a position type. And then we have some more
• 42:51
  questions and things going on from there. I know one of them is somebody
• 42:53
  we talked about offline and as somebody that whereas it? Yeah, JG said,
• 43:00
  so Adie Mitchell, he's an X. Why does everyone hate him?
• 43:02
  I wonder if you're gonna talk about Adi Mitchell? But the floor is yours,
• 43:06
  the Bill Straftfoord through the eyes of an enemy. That first piece,
• 43:08
  Who or what do you not want to see the Bills come away with in
• 43:12
  round one? Yeah, say, we'll talk about Adie Mitchell. I don't
• 43:15
  want them to get the X. I don't want Josh Allen to get another
• 43:17
  binkie. Is really my biggest thing like I don't want him to get that,
• 43:22
  like this guy's down there somewhere, or it's one on one, we
• 43:24
  know this guy's going to be automatic. Ad Mitchell is someone who confuses me
• 43:31
  and he's kind of frustrating to watch, and we talked about it before the
• 43:35
  show, where he suffers from something a lot of college receivers suffer from,
• 43:38
  where they're not going one hundred percent all the time. Partially understandable, like
• 43:43
  sometimes coaches, you know, it's nice to think in college programs are always
• 43:46
  teaching these guys to be professionals. That's not really always how it works.
• 43:50
  Like they're trying to win football games. They're hitting paid handsomely most of it.
• 43:52
  They will win football games. So if it's like, hey, this
• 43:55
  guy's popping off for me, I'm really not gonna like rock the boat because
• 44:00
  who's on the back side. He's kind of like half assing his go route,
• 44:01
  Like, yeah, I understand that. The biggest thing for me is
• 44:06
  when maybe the dialogue kind of crept in for me and I started to notice
• 44:09
  it more. But it stands out more for me when I notice it in
• 44:13
  the run blocking, Like if the run's coming your way and you're just kind
• 44:16
  of like m or like you you initiate and then you don't finish. Like
• 44:22
  those are the things that bother me. The ones that get are like the
• 44:24
  little bubble screens to Xavier Worthy or something and he's right there and he kind
• 44:28
  of just doesn't do anything. I'm like, you are literally the point of
• 44:30
  attack. You. It's not even just like, oh, Jonathan Brooks bounced
• 44:34
  this run outside, but I wasn't doing anything. No, you are the
• 44:37
  focal point right now because you're the only receiver on that side with Worthy.
• 44:39
  Do your thing. That's because that's when it's like you're being like you're technically
• 44:44
  being a bad teammate because you're you're setting someone else up to fail. That's
• 44:46
  what pisses me off. And I'm gonna get to the good things. I
• 44:50
  just want to get the bat out of the way. So there's that,
• 44:52
  and then there's like just the urgency, like sometimes body language you can see
• 44:57
  when someone is like competing. I called Marvin Ris a junior for this when
• 45:00
  they played Michigan. I watched the tape because there are games where you see
• 45:06
  him block like he wants to block, and you're like, yeah, if
• 45:07
  this dude wanted to he could put guys on the sideline all the time against
• 45:12
  Michigan, like the interception where he's not really doing anything to break it up,
• 45:16
  or he's not blocking and I'm like, dude, or like there's the
• 45:19
  ball's overthrown, which like watching Kyle McCord, I get it because oh my
• 45:22
  god, like I was getting frustrated watching him. But there are times where
• 45:25
  you see him go like he's like, bro, when you are going into
• 45:30
  the league as like an all pro, I'd like to see you look like
• 45:35
  a leader or look like a professional. And Ad is kind of in that
• 45:37
  realm where he's gonna go in the first round most likely unless teams really sour
• 45:42
  on him, and then maybe he goes early six. Interviews would have to
• 45:45
  be like terrible, like the effort has to be such a concern from the
• 45:50
  interviews, and I'm talking where like he sits down and he's just like suck
• 45:55
  Rock where he's just like, I'm hung over. You can do what you
• 45:59
  want. I'm not gonna entertain you, and I'll transition into the good here
• 46:04
  because at the combine he said, well, yeah, I'm not going one
• 46:06
  hundred percent all the time because sometimes it sets guys up and you can see
• 46:09
  that because there's so many times where he's kind of just like jogging up to
• 46:13
  a guy and explodes, and there's really we talked about it. As a
• 46:16
  defender, there's not much you can do. All you can do is wait
• 46:20
  for the guy to kind of get closer to you because you're not going to
• 46:22
  backpedal if the guy's jogging. If he explodes and catches you off guards,
• 46:25
  you're like, oh no, and that's terrifying. It's almost like like he
• 46:30
  lures you into a false and security where you're like, oh, he's not
• 46:32
  running hard again, and then he puts his foot in the ground and you're
• 46:35
  like, oh damn it, and he's completely by you. And then it
• 46:37
  turns into Alabama where the guy doesn't have a catch until the middle of the
• 46:40
  third quarter. He has three catches, two explosives, and a touchdown when
• 46:44
  his team needed the most. And if you see that and you're like like,
• 46:47
  Okay, if the team really wants him to run full speed or give
• 46:52
  more effort, then like you can coach effort or you can like bully somebody
• 46:55
  in the showing more effort because you're like, hey, I'm not going to
• 46:58
  play. You if you want to run half ass, you not to do
• 47:00
  that, you're not gonna play. But the reason I wanted to go to
• 47:02
  Buffalo is because you talk about those ISO situations where it's just him on an
• 47:07
  island. That's where he thrives and his own coverage. That's where like Diggs
• 47:09
  did a great job of like settling in and he's just a really well rounded
• 47:13
  player. Ad doesn't really do that, and some of it is I'm confused
• 47:16
  because I'm like, is this the thing where he's not really going as hard
• 47:20
  and is like he's not really trying to find windows. That's an issue,
• 47:23
  but he can shred one on one coverage. He does have some issues against
• 47:29
  physicality, like he does kind to get bullied sometimes, but he's explosive when
• 47:32
  he wants to. He's active with his hands and he can keep guys off
• 47:35
  of him. And then once he's got you in his back pocket, like
• 47:37
  he's probably gonna get past you. Not much of a yack. Right again,
• 47:40
  an area where Stefan Diggs not the most elusive guy. But I think
• 47:45
  with his type of physicality, it got in more yards after the catchin out
• 47:49
  of stuff and yeah, exactly, and I just think Ad is one of
• 47:52
  those guys where like he can still continue to grow and get better. Maybe
• 47:54
  not after the catch. I just don't really think his change of direction is
• 47:58
  there. But I think he can be that kind of guy where it's like
• 48:00
  one on one, I'm gonna throw to him because his balls, heels are
• 48:02
  fantastic, he's got a great catch radius, he's fast, just a really
• 48:06
  explosive guy. Besides him Brian Thomas, we already talked about him, But
• 48:09
  again, if you're banking on the skill set, I mean, if he's
• 48:14
  gonna be like kind of your Game Davis ish type where he's really just running
• 48:16
  like three routes, like, that's fine if you're good at him, I
• 48:20
  don't really care, especially when you're explosive. He's not great after they catch
• 48:23
  either. But again, you're talking about guys who have really good skill sets
• 48:27
  and they can grow. I don't even want to take the chance. And
• 48:30
  then beyond that, Xavier Legat is a guy probably the top really of my
• 48:32
  list where I don't want them to get him because I want the Patriots to
• 48:36
  get him. I love him as a person, which may be why more
• 48:38
  than anything, I don't want him to go to Buffalo because I don't want
• 48:40
  to root against him. I think he's he's been through so much, He's
• 48:45
  overcome a ton of adversity and really shown mental toughness, not just through that
• 48:47
  adversity, but like sticking at South Carolina when he could have gone somewhere else
• 48:52
  and popped off earlier in his career. Now you get all this always a
• 48:54
  fifty year breaking out. Why is that it's really not his fault, Like
• 48:59
  it was more about the situation than him. Even showed it at the end
• 49:01
  of his twenty twenty two season, then twenty twenty three, it's like a
• 49:05
  no, this dude's legit. But I kind of compare him to like and
• 49:07
  I comps are never really fair because if you're comping someone and it's a good
• 49:12
  player, you're probably gonna have to pull from some really talented guys. Yeah,
• 49:15
  in terms of like route running, he reminds me of AJ Brown.
• 49:19
  No, we do. We We said it on in the film room last
• 49:22
  week. He's baby AJ Brown, Like that's what is true from a size
• 49:24
  frame, skill set, standpoint and potential trajectory. That's what you're hoping you're
• 49:30
  getting in two years as a baby AJ Brown, like that's literally what his
• 49:32
  ceiling is because they've got the same kind of like stiffness, but they snap
• 49:37
  off routes so well, you're not gonna get into their body. They're very
• 49:40
  active with their hands and they're strong. It's not even just the technique.
• 49:44
  It's like, no, this guy is very, very physical. The ball
• 49:46
  skills are fantastic. He's got legitimate deep speed and he's good with the ball
• 49:52
  in his hands. And that's where I kind of I also kind of lean
• 49:54
  a little bit towards Debo, and I hate using the Debo comp It's so
• 49:59
  easy to throw around time a guy is just like someone who need to manufacture.
• 50:01
  It was like, oh, the receiver can do like some running back
• 50:05
  stuff. After the catcher lineup in the backfield, everybody's like, oh,
• 50:07
  Debo, Debo is Debot. No one else is Devot, and that needs
• 50:10
  to be established, like Traylon Burks even, you know, it's just like
• 50:14
  no, it's like, no one is that fast, no one is that
• 50:16
  good at breaking tackles. It's like Debo is his own complete, separate entity.
• 50:22
  But when you do talk about the fact that like he is both physical
• 50:25
  and explosive underneath just a combination you don't typically see because those guys are usually
• 50:30
  kind of like, yeah, your ex is where you keep them outside the
• 50:32
  numbers. But I think Leget, I don't think he's the best at X.
• 50:36
  I think he can serve that for a team that doesn't have one yet
• 50:38
  and just needs somebody can win one on one. And then I think again,
• 50:42
  you can manufacture touches using the running back, the end rounds, the
• 50:45
  underneath stuff where he can be a true three level threat. So again those
• 50:47
  are lofty comparisons, but you see the shades of it in his game,
• 50:52
  where like what if a players good, no one compareson to anybody, They
• 50:54
  become their own type of person. And I think Leget has that kind of
• 50:59
  skill set where it's like, yeah, no, eventually people are going to
• 51:00
  be comparing the guys who were kind of stiff but are really great athletes and
• 51:05
  are physical. They're gonna be like, oh, he's just like exagerad.
• 51:07
  So he's probably the top of my list. Where it's like, don't you
• 51:10
  dare take him off that board or I will become childish in church? Is
• 51:16
  it churlish? And what is it? What is it you use insubordinate in
• 51:21
  churls, insubordinate and shurtlish. There you go. I use that all the
• 51:24
  time. That's my favorite thing. Anytime somebody has like a rap where they
• 51:28
  just physically own someone, I'm just like in subbordinate and churlish from whoever this
• 51:31
  player is you hit, I'm like, man as as this draft cycle has
• 51:37
  gone forward, and then even before Diggs being traded, but especially now,
• 51:40
  like you hit on three of the biggest hot button names for Bill's fans,
• 51:45
  and I'm sure a lot of people in the chat. I think if I
• 51:47
  had to kind of like wade through everything, Brian Thomas is probably the most
• 51:52
  the most liked out of everyone. I think A. G. Mitchell is
• 51:57
  polarizing for the reasons that you mentioned. Some people are in on the GAT,
• 52:00
  but I think Thomas is liked the most. Legatt is actually right in
• 52:04
  there in that conversation. Mitchell is third, and it's funny with Mitchell.
• 52:10
  I'll start with Mitchell just because you know you started with Mitchell. I recognize
• 52:14
  all the red flags and you and I part of the reason we got sidetracked
• 52:15
  and starting this episode the latest because we were talking about Ady Mitchell offline,
• 52:19
  and we do that every time you come out, we start chopping it up,
• 52:21
  and then I completely forget where we are. It's he He's just so
• 52:27
  explosive, and I think with an explosive from a power standpoint, that separation,
• 52:31
  then you add the four three forty and even to an aspect of his
• 52:37
  game. He doesn't necessarily play overly physical, but he's somebody who can play
• 52:42
  above the rim at the catch point. He can go up and high point
• 52:44
  the football. He can play through contact, you know, at the catch
• 52:45
  point. He's got the one. That's another one in the Alabama game going
• 52:50
  from they're in the shadow of their own goal line, going from left to
• 52:52
  right. Cool a mckinstree's on him. Yeah, that sideline throw from yours.
• 52:55
  That was when that was the first part of the game where you're like,
• 52:59
  oh he's here. Yeah, oh man, look at that. I
• 53:01
  didn't know he was there. Yeah. Just overall what he can do,
• 53:06
  and I think his floor as a rookie is better than the gat and Thomas
• 53:10
  because of his ability to win it all three levels. He can beat you
• 53:13
  vertically with speed or separating get the catchpoint, or with double moves and stuff.
• 53:17
  He can win in the intermedia, especially on inbreaking routes and he can
• 53:21
  win underneath because of the explosiveness and some of his release work. Brian Thomas,
• 53:24
  on the other hand, is I think he has a lower floor.
• 53:28
  But him and again I put into similar buckets because they each need to work,
• 53:31
  and Mitchell needs to work on some of his route precision and stem work
• 53:36
  as well. But I think more so for Thomas and more so for the
• 53:38
  get But I think both of them are a really good fit with the Bills
• 53:42
  because of Kinkaid and Cook and Shakir and even Josh Allen and him running the
• 53:46
  ball. But if you're that first receiver taken for the Bills in this draft
• 53:52
  in round one, you don't necessarily have to be option one right out of
• 53:55
  the gate. And this is something I've continued to say, so I'm gonna
• 53:58
  keep it a bit short on it. But if you're Thomas or you're Legett,
• 54:00
  all you really have to do in year one, not to oversimplified,
• 54:04
  is just go be big and strong and fast. That's all you have to
• 54:07
  do. And then as the year goes on, we'll build upon your route
• 54:10
  work. And then twenty twenty five we need to see more of a true
• 54:14
  wide receiver ceiling or upside or what we're getting for you, Like you really
• 54:17
  can just take Brian Thomas in year one and if they're going to play him
• 54:21
  one on one on the backside, like you're sitting there on the front side
• 54:22
  of a route. I was giving this example with digs all off season,
• 54:25
  but he's gone. Now we can still give it. Say you're doing a
• 54:29
  three by one and the three is can Cage, Shakir and Samuel and on
• 54:32
  the back side it's Brian Thomas. If it's one on one, cool,
• 54:37
  Can that dude jump with him? Can that dude run with him? If
• 54:39
  not, it might just be a simple like hey man, just go run
• 54:43
  real fast. I'm gonna chuck it up. And then also something about Thomas.
• 54:45
  He him Worthy is in this category. Jermaine Burton is in this category
• 54:52
  as well. Three dudes that when the ball is in the air, the
• 54:55
  gear that they hit to go get the football is in Like Thomas is fast
• 55:00
  in general, but there's some clips where he's running and separating from dudes and
• 55:05
  then he sees the ball in the air and he just takes off and gets
• 55:07
  it. It reminds me of Dion Sanders said said this about Devin Hester,
• 55:13
  because Devin Hester didn't have like that. It was always outruning dudes, but
• 55:15
  didn't have like the best forty time. It wasn't like it was a good
• 55:17
  forty time, but it wasn't like, oh wow, like crazy, he's
• 55:21
  gonna outrun everybody. But he's always out running everybody. And Dion Sanders said
• 55:23
  that Devin Hester has next man speed and what that is is like he'll run
• 55:29
  as fast as he needs to to outrun the man next to him, like
• 55:31
  that's it, and then he'll outrun everybody. And I always that makes me
• 55:36
  that comes to my mind every time I see Brian Thomas because it's like the
• 55:37
  ball goes in the air and he it's like he just hits another like a
• 55:43
  like a like a labrador or retriever getting the ball there that ball and they
• 55:46
  just take off and get shot out of a can. And Burton has that,
• 55:49
  Worthy has that, and it's just a speed that you can't teach along
• 55:52
  again with that, you're six three two ten and you're running at that speed,
• 55:57
  that's wild. We can build upon your route work. And I also
• 56:00
  think too, he's got good lower body flexibility inflection that makes me think Okay,
• 56:06
  we can build upon that. It's not like he's never gonna be a
• 56:08
  good rout runner because he's stiff as hell. He can't sink his hips.
• 56:10
  He's done, he's got some of that. And again, all in this
• 56:14
  conversation I set it offline. I'm gonna say it again. Thomas is a
• 56:16
  good example of absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because he
• 56:21
  didn't do these things at LSU doesn't mean that he can't do these things in
• 56:25
  the NFL. I don't think he can right now based on what we've seen,
• 56:29
  but who knows. Maybe LSU was just simplifying it, because to your
• 56:32
  point, in college, it's similar just being like yo, bro, you're
• 56:35
  huge and fast. Just go run posts and goes and hitch every once in
• 56:37
  a while. The best teams are the ones who keep thinking it's it's the
• 56:42
  legion of Boom. It's like, yeah, we can play like a handful
• 56:45
  of coverages because no one plays them better than we can. Like, if
• 56:46
  you have great athletes, you don't need to complicate it, Like DK Metcalf
• 56:51
  doesn't need to run a full route treat. He can run three routes and
• 56:53
  he's phenomenal with those routes, and you're not really gonna be able to defend
• 56:57
  himself, especially in college. Like keep things simple, that's it, Like
• 57:00
  keep it simple, stupid, just like Michael Scott says, and like so
• 57:05
  Thomas just is so intriguing. But again I think Liget falls into that.
• 57:07
  Again, different type of profile and skill set. But year one, Okay,
• 57:14
  go be fast and run down field and either separate and Alan's gonna hit
• 57:19
  you, or run down field and float in mid air and dunk on dudes,
• 57:23
  which he does all the time. And I've had a couple of people
• 57:25
  what did I I showed one. It's the one against Florida where and you'll
• 57:30
  like this because you like some stuff with Spencer Rattler. He's got that.
• 57:32
  It's like a fifty yard throw down field. There's a defensive tackle that gets
• 57:37
  into the backfield immediately, and Rattler throws like a fifty yard dart off his
• 57:40
  back foot with the defensive tackle in space and just chucks it up fifty something
• 57:45
  yards downfield and Leget goes and hangs in mid air, mosses the Florida corner.
• 57:50
  Someone came up to when you posted it, and I I just seen
• 57:53
  it, and I was like, that's the play where he literally just like
• 57:55
  is there And I'm like, wait, is he stopped? Yes? Crazy,
• 58:00
  And someone he does that does that too where he kind of like he
• 58:04
  does that thing where he almost double jumps. He did it in the in
• 58:07
  the game against Washington the semifinal game. He times has jumped too early,
• 58:09
  but just like hangs in mid air and then snatches it down and like that
• 58:14
  just floats against Florida, and somebody was like somebody came to my mentions,
• 58:17
  either with that clip or something else, was like that's not gonna work like
• 58:21
  against better teams and better players, like Florida's defense was bad. So then
• 58:24
  I showed the one where he does it against Georgia where he floats literally for
• 58:29
  like two and a half seconds. He runs like this deep over deep post
• 58:31
  and goes and just skies and hangs and plucks it. So go do that
• 58:36
  downfield, or go separate or we're gonna hit you on a drag and just
• 58:38
  go be six to one two hundred and twenty plus who runs a four to
• 58:42
  three run through some dudes and go from there like and then we can work
• 58:45
  on your route tree and we can work on those things. It fits.
• 58:49
  But it's funny seeing you talk about like those three guys because I think I
• 58:52
  do, I do think very much all three of those guys are in play
• 58:57
  at twenty eight for the bills. I don't know which one they have highest
• 58:59
  on the board, but they all fit that ex profile. And that's why
• 59:04
  I want to get rid of it in round one because really in round two,
• 59:07
  the only one I see with that value at X is Javon Baker.
• 59:12
  I do think, I do think Jermaine Burton could get there, but his
• 59:16
  off the field stuff is such an absolutely like and I don't know, I've
• 59:22
  said it a bunch. Mitchell falls in this category, but for different reasons.
• 59:25
  But the interviews are going to be so important for Jermaine Burton because that
• 59:29
  could propel him to like the beginning of round two, or he might still
• 59:32
  be sitting there in round four and everybody's like, I can't believe he's still
• 59:36
  there, and it's like, wow, he's got character stuff and the interviews
• 59:37
  must have been terrible. I like, if if there's teams that don't have
• 59:42
  him on visits, those are teams that you can expect are not interested period,
• 59:45
  because it's like you can't really draft him if you haven't done your due
• 59:49
  diligence and made it very clear, like we want to meet with you consistently
• 59:52
  to see if your answer is the same, to see how you respond.
• 59:54
  And they're like did all these things, Like yeah, I'm sorry, I
• 59:57
  didn't even to cut you off, but like the Patriots didn't bring him in
• 59:59
  and I was until I hear it, there's no way that he's an option.
• 1:00:02
  He's gonna be awesome deuceboards just for that. And he had a clip
• 1:00:06
  and someone commented on Twitter and said, like, this is the perfect representation
• 1:00:07
  of Jermaine Burton. I showed a clip of Oh, who's it against against
• 1:00:12
  Tennessee. He scores this touchdown. It's ridiculous. It's like the low red
• 1:00:15
  zone. No, maybe like if from like the fifteen releases inside Plants is
• 1:00:22
  right foot in the ground and sells like he's running a corner, so the
• 1:00:24
  corner backs off and I'm trying to describe it the right way. I want
• 1:00:28
  to show it, but I don't want to get flagged for college tape on
• 1:00:30
  this on YouTube, like it's been happened recently. He puts his right foot
• 1:00:32
  in the ground, like stabs to go this way, but instead of putting
• 1:00:36
  his left foot down, next, he hops scotch, asks skips, plants
• 1:00:43
  on his right foot again, puts it in the ground, pivots back inside
• 1:00:46
  and is wide open and the corner is thinking, oh, you're running a
• 1:00:50
  corner, so he hinges and starts to back up. He does that hopscotch
• 1:00:53
  pivot. The corner's stuck going this way and he's wide open. It's gorgeous,
• 1:00:59
  catches it. The corner tackles him like a yard into the end zone,
• 1:01:02
  but it's a touchdown. He's on Burton. Burton kicks the hell out
• 1:01:06
  of him and just kicks me. Kicks him, puts his cleats right in
• 1:01:09
  his chest, kicks him. I tried. I made a joke about it
• 1:01:13
  because the dude went back far and I was like, well, obviously Burton
• 1:01:15
  doesn't skip leg day because look at the power that he's generating with that kick.
• 1:01:17
  But that right there is like he runs this route that I don't even
• 1:01:22
  know. I don't even know like the terminology for, because it's not a
• 1:01:25
  thing like what he does, but it's just a really well route. It's
• 1:01:29
  unique. It works. And then he kicks the dude for no reason.
• 1:01:31
  Also too, like you didn't even need to, Like you won that rep,
• 1:01:36
  you scored. I would have understood it more if you dropped it.
• 1:01:39
  And then the corner was on you talking smack and you're like, get the
• 1:01:42
  hell off me. But like you scored, you won that rep, like
• 1:01:45
  you shouldn't. Dude's already down, you don't need to kick him. And
• 1:01:47
  it just that juxtaposition right there was if you go to my timeline, if
• 1:01:52
  you go to Twitter and type pro ant like pro space ant space Germane and
• 1:01:58
  then go to latest I posted it like three or four days ago, and
• 1:02:00
  you'll see right now I'm going right now, and how nuts is this route?
• 1:02:05
  This route is so nuts? And then he kicks the dude, yes,
• 1:02:07
  kick, like he's doing a leg press and just not even sneaky about
• 1:02:13
  it, just just right there like it's wild. And but but again like
• 1:02:16
  so he's gonna be off some dudes boards And to kind of bring it back
• 1:02:21
  to that piece, if you're not getting that X guy in the first round,
• 1:02:24
  you have to hope that it's Javon Baker later like cause you're not you're
• 1:02:29
  not gonna get that piece or again Brendan Rice. But then I'm thinking,
• 1:02:32
  like Brendan Rice might be a really nice option in the third. You don't
• 1:02:35
  have a third round pick, and I don't know if he's gonna be there
• 1:02:37
  at pick one twenty eight in the fourth. So then are you spending a
• 1:02:39
  you know, pick sixty on Rice or is it Johnny Wilson like some Now
• 1:02:45
  you're in this weird limbo of maybe reaching on a guy or praying that they
• 1:02:49
  fall, and now you're just really kind of subject to the board in a
• 1:02:52
  lot of ways, and it's wild. A couple of sleepers I've been looking
• 1:02:55
  at for the Pats one bubb means out of pit. Big reason is because
• 1:02:59
  tak one under what was his coach for two years, it's such an obvious
• 1:03:01
  one. I think he could be a pretty solid X. Like I think
• 1:03:05
  he's never gonna be like the prototype where you're just like, you know,
• 1:03:08
  that big game changer that everybody wants. But I do think you know his
• 1:03:12
  ability to beat press. He's got build up speed. You know, he's
• 1:03:15
  got a good frame. We can run those digs and those slants will be
• 1:03:17
  successful. I like him, And then Jalen Cocher, where you know probably
• 1:03:22
  seventh round borderline undrafted for agent kind of guy, but like a fade machine.
• 1:03:27
  And he's really good on slants where I like, I will get any
• 1:03:30
  guy's kitchens, which's just like ba ba, and then like I don't know
• 1:03:32
  what's going on, and then he breaks in. Then they're just like a
• 1:03:35
  step behind. So you're looking for later round guys. Again, these are
• 1:03:38
  projects. These you know, I don't think dans are necessarily gonna be excited,
• 1:03:42
  but if you do, just need an ex who's functional and can at
• 1:03:45
  least like give you some kind of vertical ability, whether it's on the jump
• 1:03:49
  ball or what have you. Means is more he can get behind you.
• 1:03:52
  Cocher's more of that guy where he's gonna boy you up, and they can,
• 1:03:53
  you know, again use their bodies to shield inside. But yeah,
• 1:03:57
  I mean, you don't really ever find a lot of x's in the draft,
• 1:04:00
  and then you have to sacrifice something where it's usually explosiveness, maybe it's
• 1:04:03
  size or what have you, but it's it's tough when you get in those
• 1:04:06
  later rounds. And so on the conversation of double dip. You know you
• 1:04:10
  mentioned it earlier. Let's get into that and briefing now, like are you
• 1:04:12
  thinking, like is that something you don't want to see? Meaning you think
• 1:04:15
  the Bills like should do that? Do you? Are you looking at this
• 1:04:17
  Bills team like you gotta go receiver in round one and receiver in round two
• 1:04:21
  and again through the eyes of the enemy. Is that something you don't want
• 1:04:26
  to see? I'd like to see it because they have limited capital, especially
• 1:04:31
  so I'd like to see them go early round and once such a jerk and
• 1:04:35
  leave those holes. That would make me pretty happy. But at the same
• 1:04:38
  time, if they get two really good receivers, like you know, I
• 1:04:42
  think that offensive line is very important, but I'm coming along more to the
• 1:04:45
  fact that like what you can't have like a bad offensive line, But with
• 1:04:49
  this Bills team, where like, really, if a Cyrus Towards comes along,
• 1:04:53
  you got mcover. He's functional. If you have just one hole in
• 1:04:55
  it's left guard. If you want a hole on your offensive line, maybe
• 1:04:59
  not. I would put guard first because center you want to be smart,
• 1:05:00
  like you don't necessarily want always a replacement level. Yeah, I think I
• 1:05:03
  think left guard is the bigger potential need. But I and Edwards isn't sexy.
• 1:05:08
  He gets the job done, which is like he gives you a floor,
• 1:05:11
  but you're just also kind of like man at the same time. Right,
• 1:05:14
  So I think they are good enough, honestly and could get by if
• 1:05:16
  you got like two good receivers who could be maybe not necessarily starts with me.
• 1:05:21
  One's a starter and one's more of like a contributor rotational guy. But
• 1:05:26
  even still, if you're talking about a second round pick, that's a guy
• 1:05:28
  who by next season should be somebody who is a starter for you. So
• 1:05:31
  yeah, I'll yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't want to see
• 1:05:33
  them double did. I'd rather see them gonna say I'm I keep like I
• 1:05:39
  do so many mocks, like whenever I like, I'll be watching like TV
• 1:05:43
  and there's a commercial and I'll do like a mock quick and like a minute
• 1:05:45
  or a break, and I keep playing with different options. One. It's
• 1:05:48
  so funny how angry people get with mock drafts, like it's wild, like
• 1:05:51
  I'm out here just playing games. And also like I name them after different
• 1:05:55
  quotes from Seinfeld, like I'm not taking this too seriously, and people like
• 1:05:58
  I feel like someone's gonna show up at my house because I didn't take the
• 1:06:00
  receiver they wanted in round one. It's wild, but like it really is.
• 1:06:05
  It really is, like everybody is just like, are you going to
• 1:06:08
  take this guy? This sucks and like people are mean about it. It's
• 1:06:11
  rough, but I've never seen as much vitriol as I do for like Mox
• 1:06:15
  And when it's too good, it's almost suspicious. It's like, wait,
• 1:06:17
  yes, I had the board, would you do okay? I can't wait
• 1:06:21
  the board yes, And I've been playing with the idea of, like,
• 1:06:26
  in an ideal world for me, the Bills trade again. The board has
• 1:06:30
  to fall the right way. But in an ideal world, the Bills trade
• 1:06:33
  back from twenty eight to the thirties and they get a third round pick somewhere
• 1:06:39
  in the nineties. That is my ideal scenario for the Buffalo Bills. Again,
• 1:06:43
  the board has to fall the right way if they have to stay at
• 1:06:45
  twenty eight. There's several players that I like, but I want this type
• 1:06:46
  of dream scenario, and I keep playing with the idea of, like,
• 1:06:50
  okay, trade back into the mid thirties and then get Ricky Piersoal or Lad
• 1:06:56
  McConkie if he's still there. But then again, I'm sitting there at sixty
• 1:06:59
  sweating bullets because I'm like, it has to be Javon Baker. It has
• 1:07:01
  to be Javon Baker. It has to be Javon Baker. Or if you
• 1:07:03
  double dip, you go early, say you get, you know, say
• 1:07:06
  you stay and you don't trade and do anything. You know eighty Mitchell at
• 1:07:11
  twenty eight or Brian Thomas Junior at twenty eight or like get and then you're
• 1:07:14
  sitting there at sixty and it's like, is it Jayalen McMillan, is it
• 1:07:15
  Jalen Polk? Is it one of these type of dudes? Like that combination
• 1:07:20
  I think is really interesting because I think a double dip could happen like given
• 1:07:27
  I Again, it's not even just digs like Trent Sherfield again and Hardy weren't
• 1:07:31
  amazing. But Sherfield's gone, Hardy's gone, Gabe Davis has gone, Stefan
• 1:07:35
  Diggs has gone. You replace them with Curtis Samuel and Mac Collins. And
• 1:07:39
  again I'm not saying this from a player perspective. I want to say from
• 1:07:41
  a snap share perspective. There's a lot of snaps that are up there for
• 1:07:44
  grabs, like with this team, So you got to replenish the cupboard a
• 1:07:47
  little bit at wide receiver, and it's really interesting to see like what pairings
• 1:07:54
  you can have. Again, mox are just thought exercises for me, but
• 1:07:58
  just seeing what happens if you don't get that X early, how you're handcuffed
• 1:08:02
  later. And again I don't necessarily want to go receiver receiver given the other
• 1:08:08
  needs that they have, and especially with how deep this offensive line class is,
• 1:08:12
  Like you can get a really really really good guard that can start for
• 1:08:15
  you in twenty twenty four and be their long term at pick sixty. But
• 1:08:18
  all of this piece or pieces that go together is that idea of okay,
• 1:08:25
  like when are you getting your next receiver because then it's going to be in
• 1:08:28
  round four and who's available and how are you pairing them? But again,
• 1:08:30
  on the other side of it, it is if you do double dipper receiver,
• 1:08:33
  you're getting your offensive lineman or your edge or your defensive tackle or your
• 1:08:38
  safety in round four, and those positions have even more scarcity than receiver does.
• 1:08:43
  And it's all like this. This Stefan Diggs trade created such a like
• 1:08:47
  an exciting and stressful like domino effect and avenues because it's opened up like a
• 1:08:54
  lot of different possibilities for what the Bills could do based on how the board
• 1:08:58
  falls, given their need, given the positional depth of those positions in the
• 1:09:02
  draft, but then also considering where their picks are, Like, again,
• 1:09:04
  that's a huge gap to go from sixty to one to twenty eight. You're
• 1:09:09
  sitting there, sixty eight dudes are gonna go off the board. That's a
• 1:09:11
  huge gap. I don't think it's even responsible to allow that to stay,
• 1:09:15
  Like, I think, whether or not you want to, I think you
• 1:09:16
  have to try to get something to fill that out, because again, this
• 1:09:19
  is such a talented class. There's a lot of value. I mean,
• 1:09:23
  every year, if you have a good seatting department, you're gonna find a
• 1:09:26
  lot of value in those rounds. Like Patris made a living off of this.
• 1:09:29
  So yeah, I do not like the idea of just staying put with
• 1:09:31
  what you got. I think you need to kind of fill that middle ground
• 1:09:34
  so you can you know, you can still get good players not gonna be
• 1:09:38
  the same level of players, but also how do you I don't want to
• 1:09:43
  say rebuild, but looking at this team, it feels like the softest possible
• 1:09:48
  rebuild for a team with one of the league's best quarterbacks, because like,
• 1:09:55
  I mean, it's not if Josh Allen were on this team, this is
• 1:10:00
  terrifying. I would if I were a Bills fan without Josh Allen on this
• 1:10:02
  team, I would be very scary. It's like, our offensive line is
• 1:10:05
  pretty solid, James Cook obviously very good, and you got good players on
• 1:10:10
  defense and smart coaches, but like you still have some significant holes that need
• 1:10:15
  to be built. So from your perspective, is this like relative to your
• 1:10:19
  quarterback situation, like a very soft rebuild. I'm calling it a revamp revamp
• 1:10:25
  okay, revamp soil, Yeah, soft rebuilt basically. Yeah, it's like
• 1:10:29
  a soft opening. Yeah, but we're not We're not fully open. It's
• 1:10:30
  a soft open. It's like what James Gun's doing right now with DC.
• 1:10:33
  There you go, that's exactly right. There you go, Yeah, that's
• 1:10:35
  what we're doing. Revamp. It's like you mean soft rebuilt. No,
• 1:10:38
  I mean read Josh Allen is Marco Robbie well played, well played, that's
• 1:10:45
  the cop, that's the cop. Yeah. It is interesting because especially with
• 1:10:48
  like the Digs trade right, like a lot of the focus was and rightfully
• 1:10:51
  so, like the financial black of all of it of the dead cap this
• 1:10:57
  year, but it did free up money next year. And I think that
• 1:11:00
  we're all all the moves the red Wedding Wednesday of Poyer going that really saved
• 1:11:03
  more money this year, but Trey going forward next year. Like all of
• 1:11:06
  these moves I think were made with creating some more financial flexibility, some in
• 1:11:12
  twenty twenty four, but really going forward. And I think that is because
• 1:11:15
  they are revamping like the core of this team, the structure of this team,
• 1:11:20
  and you're gonna see a lot of new faces. And people have been
• 1:11:24
  talking about more from like a leadership standpoint because so many of the captains from
• 1:11:28
  this team are gone, like Tyler Menikevitch and Gave Davis and Stefan Diggs and
• 1:11:31
  Mitch Mors and all this it's like, oh, who steps up in this
• 1:11:33
  leadership role? YadA YadA. But it's more just like who is your new
• 1:11:36
  core and what is your new identity? And who steps up is a significant
• 1:11:42
  part of it. But yeah, it is kind of if Josh Allen wasn't
• 1:11:44
  a part of the team. That's a really good way to look at it.
• 1:11:45
  Like I don't know, I mean, I don't know what this team
• 1:11:47
  would be talked about without Allen in general. But yeah, like if you
• 1:11:49
  didn't have that piece already, you're sitting there now having a really interesting conversation
• 1:11:56
  in terms of the direction of this team and the turnaround of this team because
• 1:12:00
  there's not you still have the talent on defense, but overall offensively and defensively.
• 1:12:05
  Now now that Stefan Diggs has gone, how many truly elite players are
• 1:12:11
  on this Buffalo Bill's team. Like, I think Josh Allen is one.
• 1:12:15
  I think Matt Mullano is one. I think Taron Johnson is one one of
• 1:12:18
  the best nickels in all the football Those are like my heart, my three
• 1:12:21
  hard, like Yeses and Oliver, like Kincaid for their roles. I feel
• 1:12:27
  like our could grow, but that's like that for me, that's still like
• 1:12:30
  we could be sitting here next year and it's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:12:32
  Kinkaid is elite. I don't think he's there yet. Is the trending that
• 1:12:35
  way? Sure? But right now, like if you have to give up
• 1:12:40
  everybody's passing you in the assembly line and you have an elite stamp and you
• 1:12:42
  have to put it on everybody that's elite, I don't know who it is.
• 1:12:45
  Besides Alan Mulano and Taron Johnson, some of those guys are trending.
• 1:12:48
  Like Ed Oliver, I don't think so. I don't think so. I
• 1:12:55
  really like Ed Oliver, but there's times and I don't want to pile on,
• 1:12:59
  but I mean the playoff game was a good example, like Joe Tooney
• 1:13:01
  just gave him that work like regularly, like he just there's times where he
• 1:13:05
  just disappears a little too much for my liking. And it's a shame that
• 1:13:10
  it happened. This past year. He was phenomenal. He was like top
• 1:13:13
  five and like every defensive tackle advanced metric and raw stat that you would want
• 1:13:16
  to care about, and that was with Daikwon Jones being out. I think
• 1:13:21
  he treads water there sometimes like he's hovering around that elite piece and sometimes he
• 1:13:27
  really looks like it and then he just sinks a little bit below the surface
• 1:13:30
  and then he comes back. So he falls into that from time to time.
• 1:13:33
  If Greg Rousseau becomes a better pass rusher and continues on his trajectory,
• 1:13:38
  I'm sitting there thinking he could be e leaite because he's already one of the
• 1:13:41
  best run defenders at football. At edge. If he puts it together as
• 1:13:44
  the pass for the past protective ooh boy. I also think again, I
• 1:13:46
  know he's undersized Terrell Bernard if he continues on his trajectory with the year two
• 1:13:50
  that he had, but hard elite players that you have right now, I
• 1:13:55
  really think it's only three And if you took out Allen, not only do
• 1:13:58
  you lose one, but it's also the core back then. It's a completely
• 1:14:00
  different conversation, especially when you're trying to fight fire with fire with the Chiefs
• 1:14:05
  and the Ravens and the Bengals and the Texans, who I think are gonna
• 1:14:10
  be a really big problem this year and some several years to come. Yeah,
• 1:14:13
  that's a really good way to phrase it, like or look at it
• 1:14:15
  like, because it I don't think people are looking at this team think at
• 1:14:18
  oh, this is a rebuild, but it kind of maybe is a little
• 1:14:21
  bit. It's just there's not a there's it's it's kind of reminding me of
• 1:14:28
  It's not like the Patriots. Obviously they've got so much, but even if
• 1:14:32
  like they draft Drake May, it's a situation where it's similar, where it's
• 1:14:35
  like they are functional, like they can still be a competitive even obviously the
• 1:14:40
  Bills are in like a different category. Honestly, I shouldn't have done that,
• 1:14:43
  but just like looking at it, it's in a similar situation for the
• 1:14:45
  draft, where you do as much as you'd like to do a certain thing
• 1:14:49
  early on, it would be smart to try to get as many pigs as
• 1:14:53
  possible so you can try to at least fill these holes, like you said,
• 1:14:57
  to take over some snaps, just to if you're doing that with some
• 1:15:00
  functional guys who certainly they may not be great, but if they can be
• 1:15:03
  role players and you can kind of swap guys in and have more rotational let
• 1:15:08
  these young guys play and take some of those roles, yes, then you're
• 1:15:11
  good. But there's not that elite kind of especially on offense you take like
• 1:15:15
  other than Josh Allen, there's not a lot of guys where you're looking you're
• 1:15:18
  like, yeah, I'm really scared. Dalton Kin kid has that effect on
• 1:15:21
  me, James effect on at Oliver, Like and Oliver is a guy where
• 1:15:27
  when the Pats play him, he's not really someone who I'm really that worried
• 1:15:30
  about because he tends to have like a couple of splash plays, but most
• 1:15:32
  of the game, I'm not really thinking about so yes, and that's the
• 1:15:35
  way you define it. And yeah, it's it's a very interest and that's
• 1:15:39
  something I've said on the show going back to last year after they lost to
• 1:15:43
  Cincinnati. Like my I think the Bills have always had like a deep roster
• 1:15:46
  and a lot of depth, but they just haven't really had the top tier
• 1:15:49
  firepower to fight firepower with firepower, like in terms of having a plus or
• 1:15:55
  a or a minus guys, especially when they lost to the Bengals with the
• 1:15:59
  year that they had and it was just like every like Trey Hendrickson and Hubbard
• 1:16:04
  and Reader and Jones and then it's Logan Wilson and Pratt and Jesse Bates and
• 1:16:10
  all these guys like and Von Bell and like all these guys that were like
• 1:16:12
  B plus and above. And then on offense it's like Jamar Chase and Joe
• 1:16:15
  Burrow and t Higgins and then like Tyler Boyd was one of the best slots,
• 1:16:18
  So like like does hey did he fall in there? And then let
• 1:16:20
  alone everyone else. Yeah, it's a very interesting conversation. Anything else that
• 1:16:24
  you don't want to see the Bills do in this draft or we can move
• 1:16:30
  on to the next topic. I feel like we honestly hit on all of
• 1:16:32
  it. It was just like every I just don't want them to Fieldernath,
• 1:16:34
  So don't That's what I was gonna say. So don't don't draft anybody good,
• 1:16:39
  Yes, don't you don't do no good stuff, do bad stuff.
• 1:16:43
  I don't know. I don't want them to address their needs. I want
• 1:16:45
  them to go kick lovely, just bob all these pigs and I'll be over
• 1:16:49
  the mood. That's fair real quick. This is one that I like to
• 1:16:53
  ask everybody come, you know, draft time and part of this series like
• 1:16:56
  for you. And we talked a little bit about this offline. Any NFL
• 1:16:59
  draft philosoph fees or principles that you have. I do know kind of what
• 1:17:02
  they are because we talked about them before you went on line, but we
• 1:17:05
  went on we went live. But I thought the way you attack this I
• 1:17:09
  thought was really interesting, and you gay, you have some answers that I
• 1:17:13
  don't think people have presented before. So I really like your answer to this.
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  So you know your NFL draft philosophies and or principles. Yeah, So
• 1:17:18
  one is I you always hear like best player available versus drafting for need.
• 1:17:25
  I think doing either one of those things strictly doesn't make any sense. If
• 1:17:29
  you're going best player available and the best players of safety, and you have
• 1:17:32
  three good safeties, then what are you doing? Especially if those are guys
• 1:17:35
  where like it's one thing if maybe you have a guy whose contracts expiring,
• 1:17:40
  but like one, you gotta think positional value. You need to think,
• 1:17:43
  all right, if I have a bunch of guys who I plan on having
• 1:17:45
  you for like three years, and I'm gonna draft somebody with like a top
• 1:17:49
  fifty pick, if you're gonna be on a bench, what am I doing.
• 1:17:53
  You can make the argument, sure you trade one of those guys,
• 1:17:55
  but yeah, you trade them for draft capital that you're gonna use next year.
• 1:17:59
  So it's it's still like just a weird situation, I think. And
• 1:18:01
  then if you're drafting for need, you get into a situation like the Patriots
• 1:18:04
  where you're taking cold strange with your first pick when you have some other much
• 1:18:10
  more important needs. Even the Patriots, I can go back to best player
• 1:18:12
  available. I love Christian Gonzales, I really like Kean White. I think
• 1:18:15
  you can absolutely argue they were the best players available. Patriots needd offense.
• 1:18:19
  Did they need a cornerback, a big, lengthy cornerback. Absolutely, they
• 1:18:24
  could have survived with somebody they got in like the third round who was long
• 1:18:27
  and was just competitive against those kind of big guys and then you rotate.
• 1:18:30
  They really needed a wide receiver as we saw last year, and really bethmo
• 1:18:33
  or even like a left tackle. So I think that's one big thing is
• 1:18:36
  you need some kind of combination where if you're like the forty nine ers and
• 1:18:41
  you don't really have any holes, sure you can take the best player available.
• 1:18:45
  Because like even the Chiefs when they took Lyde Edwards Lair, it was
• 1:18:46
  like, yeah, you can take a running back, you can steph like
• 1:18:49
  you're a super Bowl contender, take a player that you think is just gonna,
• 1:18:53
  you know, fill a need and just be effected for you. I
• 1:18:55
  get that that's not usually the case. Most teams have at least a couple
• 1:18:59
  glaring home they need to fill. So I don't like going just by one
• 1:19:01
  philosophy. I think you need to understand we have needs here, but is
• 1:19:05
  this player's value so good that we can maybe not get them at a better
• 1:19:10
  value somewhere else, Like I could get into the weeds, but basically,
• 1:19:12
  don't just have that one philosophy. I think have a nuanced approach Beyond that,
• 1:19:16
  I think it's important to draft your coaching staff, which is kind of
• 1:19:20
  something like when I was thinking about this question, I was thinking about the
• 1:19:23
  Patriots and the conversation I feel like, is Drake May or JJ McCarthy where
• 1:19:30
  you're drafting for upside versus like a Jade Daniels and Michael Pennix junior, where
• 1:19:33
  you're really drafting a floor and they're not gonna get markedly better. They can
• 1:19:38
  make tweets and become more consistent and round out their game, but you're not
• 1:19:42
  gonna see them really like hit this crazy high ceiling, where like I don't
• 1:19:45
  think Jade Daniel's ever going to be an all pro, I don't think Michael
• 1:19:47
  Penni's ever going to be an all pro. I think Drake May could absolutely
• 1:19:51
  be an all pro. I think you really coach JJ McCarthy very well,
• 1:19:57
  and he still has room to grow, like physically, and he kind of
• 1:20:00
  grows up, maybe his arm is better and he learns some more touch like
• 1:20:02
  maybe not all pro, maybe like a pro bowler something like that. But
• 1:20:05
  for me, if I didn't believe in the Patriots coaching and their quarterback coach,
• 1:20:11
  like I haven't you know before O'Brien, Like, if it's like freaking
• 1:20:13
  Matt Patricia or Joe Judge, Yeah, you should probably take jayde Daniels or
• 1:20:16
  Michael Penney junior because they're gonna protect the ball and they can make those big
• 1:20:20
  plays that keep you in these games. But Alex Van Pelt play in the
• 1:20:25
  quarterback position is a loose disciple of the Bill Walsh. Tree is one of
• 1:20:29
  the few offensive minded coaches who can actually improve footwork in season because he's repped
• 1:20:32
  it, he's learned it, he's coached it. Most you know, most
• 1:20:35
  offensive coaches are really just teaching scheme and matchups and things like that, and
• 1:20:40
  then you work on fundamentals. But they're not telling you, like, no,
• 1:20:43
  seriously, do this because you're affecting our You're it's affecting your progression.
• 1:20:46
  So that encourages me to say, yeah, even though they have TC McCartney
• 1:20:49
  who doesn't have a ton of experience as a quarterback coach, it's man Pelt's
• 1:20:53
  offense. So I'm like, get drank may like, don't overthink it don't
• 1:20:57
  go Jade Daniels where it's like, yeah, he's gonna be good, Like
• 1:20:59
  yeah, may his one bad problem is his footwork. If you get that
• 1:21:03
  fixed and that's alex Manpolt's whole thing, then you've got a phenomenal player on
• 1:21:08
  your hands. So I think if you have coaches you trust and you can
• 1:21:11
  develop talent, go for the ceiling because they can get that out of that
• 1:21:15
  player. If you're in a position where you're honest with yourself and you're saying,
• 1:21:18
  this coach really isn't great, you know, there wasn't anybody better necessarily,
• 1:21:23
  but he's not really the kind of guy who's gonna elevate someone of their
• 1:21:26
  full potential. Go floor, because then that floor is gonna give you someone
• 1:21:30
  where you can put them on the field. They're gonna be able to contribute.
• 1:21:32
  They probably don't need a lot of help, Like you can just see
• 1:21:34
  like this is what they did in college. Let them do this and they
• 1:21:36
  will be successful. Obviously, Like some coaching has to go on. Hopefully
• 1:21:42
  there's some improvement and you're off the twenty twenty two Patriots where like legitimately your
• 1:21:45
  coaching staff is a bunch of people who have no idea what they're doing.
• 1:21:48
  Oh my god, I got I got a little wild that still with wild
• 1:21:53
  Man, like they're coaching stuff. The last couple of years has just been
• 1:21:55
  so interesting. Every year that we get further up. I'm like, that
• 1:21:59
  was so at the time I talked myself into it. I think for my
• 1:22:00
  own sanity, yes, but well I think people were still like people.
• 1:22:04
  People like like a lot of analysts who like I I respect and listen to
• 1:22:10
  like ever, and I think this was like a fair point, Like the
• 1:22:12
  conversation was like it was so there were so many moves that were like out
• 1:22:15
  of left field that it also played into like does Belichick know something we don't?
• 1:22:21
  And then you still had the aura and mystique of Belichick that people were
• 1:22:25
  like, this is this is so crazy that it's probably gonna work because he
• 1:22:30
  would never do this unless it was gonna work. And then it was horrible
• 1:22:33
  and everybody was like why, But at the time it was because yeah,
• 1:22:38
  you were Mac mac patricia on all it was. I remember being like,
• 1:22:42
  what was an offensive line post the offensive coordinator he had to say in the
• 1:22:46
  drafting, and he was building he was helping build another wing of the building.
• 1:22:54
  Think about that. That was his first year back with the team.
• 1:22:57
  He's helping build, He's helping with a building. He's a affecting your draft,
• 1:23:00
  which is why they went to get clost Range in Taekwon Thornton. Yeah,
• 1:23:03
  he had two of the most important jobs on offense that no one does
• 1:23:06
  both of Like, yeah, it did seem like this is so crazy.
• 1:23:11
  He must like he must have a plank because this doesn't make any sense.
• 1:23:14
  I'm just it was like in Bill We Trust. That was the year where
• 1:23:16
  I was like, Okay, I need to I need to lay off,
• 1:23:19
  Like Bill is not in fouling, maybe he might be losing it a little
• 1:23:24
  bit, like really, And then last year I gave him a little bit
• 1:23:26
  of credibility, and then once it became clear that things were going off the
• 1:23:30
  track, I was like, I can't do that. I can't support you
• 1:23:31
  anymore. You know it. The Patricia stuff especially made me think, sorry,
• 1:23:39
  made me think like, I don't know, you're watching like guys race
• 1:23:42
  cars and everybody shows up in these like beautiful, fast, shiny cars and
• 1:23:45
  someone comes up with this old beater that looks terrible, and everybody's like,
• 1:23:49
  oh, this guy sucks. But under the hood, like he's got something
• 1:23:53
  crazy and then the race starts and he just zips by everybody. That's what
• 1:23:56
  I was like, thinking, like, there's something under the hood that you
• 1:24:00
  don't know, and this is gonna like work out. And I guess maybe
• 1:24:02
  that's just the trauma in me from being a Bills fan as like a kid,
• 1:24:05
  where I just assume everything is gonna work out for the Pats and when
• 1:24:09
  it didn't, I even like last year, I still kept waiting to be
• 1:24:13
  like, it's gonna turn, it's gonna work, it's gonna work, and
• 1:24:15
  then it didn't, and then I was like it'll be fine, and then
• 1:24:18
  Belichick was out and I was just like, huh, it didn't it didn't
• 1:24:23
  work, because yeah, it's just so I love that point though of like
• 1:24:27
  drafting to your coaching, because it's part of the reason it happens like every
• 1:24:30
  draft episode in the off season for the Bills, all the fans and people
• 1:24:33
  that say, like, you don't need to take a safety or a corner
• 1:24:36
  early if you're the Bills, because look what the Bills have done with kind
• 1:24:41
  of scrap free agents at safety, like Micah Hyde was a Nickel and a
• 1:24:45
  Jack of all trades, punt returner dude for Green Bay, and he got
• 1:24:48
  brought in and became one of the best safeties in football. Jordan Poyer was
• 1:24:51
  an afterthought that I'm pretty sure majority of Bills fans had no idea who he
• 1:24:56
  was when he came to the Bills. Branded a bunch of it was injury
• 1:24:58
  related. He became an All Pro this safety position in one of the best
• 1:25:00
  safeties in the league. And then you got like, granted the ceiling has
• 1:25:03
  a bit limited, but all the mileage the Bills got out of Levi Wallace
• 1:25:06
  at corner after being a you know, an undrafted free agent, the mileage
• 1:25:11
  that they got out of Dane Jackson, Like even Trey White was an and
• 1:25:14
  a first round dude, but nobody saw that. It's like, this guy's
• 1:25:16
  going to become an all pro corner. Taron Johnson, they took in the
• 1:25:18
  fourth round, has become one of the best nickels in the league. Like
• 1:25:20
  Christian Benford, a sixth round pick, has become a legitimate CB two for
• 1:25:25
  a team. So that's like part of they know who they are, They
• 1:25:29
  know their scheme, they know their structure, they know what schools play,
• 1:25:31
  certain things that they like, and it's like, yeah, that's why like
• 1:25:34
  part of the conversation when I was like, man, the Bills could go
• 1:25:36
  corner in round one and all the pro receiver people were mad at me,
• 1:25:41
  But then some of the other people are like, no, you don't need
• 1:25:43
  to do that. Just take a corner in the sixth round every year like
• 1:25:45
  you do, and you'll keep getting value out of it. And that's I
• 1:25:47
  think that's such a well said thing because people have not given that answer,
• 1:25:51
  and I'll be honest, like, even from a draft philosophy and principal perspective,
• 1:25:56
  that didn't something like that didn't even cross my mind. So I just
• 1:25:59
  love that answer and your first answer as well. But I think that one's
• 1:26:00
  so great because it it puts into perspective too, like you'll see guys go
• 1:26:05
  earlier than the consensus or what people thought, and it's like, yeah,
• 1:26:11
  like, man, I can't believe that guy went to this team in round
• 1:26:13
  two. He was projected in round four, and it's like, yeah,
• 1:26:15
  but his fit is so great with this team or with this structure, with
• 1:26:19
  this scheme that he can take off and become like everything he wanted to be.
• 1:26:23
  And then a guy who should have gone in the fourth round goes in
• 1:26:27
  the round two because who he can be with that team that took him is
• 1:26:30
  vastly different and exponentially higher than if he would have gone to someone else in
• 1:26:33
  the third or fourth or whoever, like, And it all comes back to
• 1:26:36
  the bigger piece that I love the line at Lewis Riddick said it. I
• 1:26:40
  think on Twitter a couple of weeks ago or around a month or so ago,
• 1:26:43
  like, organizations fail players more often than players fail organizations, you know
• 1:26:47
  that, And nature and nurture are so important to player development, and it's
• 1:26:53
  part of the reason why I hate that conversation of like, if the Bills
• 1:26:57
  just stayed pat and took Mahomes, tender with the pad. But if the
• 1:27:00
  bill has just stayed Pad and took Mahomes, they would have had Mahomes.
• 1:27:02
  Or if the Bills didn't trade, you know, for Diggs, they could
• 1:27:05
  have sat there and took Justin Jefferson. Those players are both great, Patrick
• 1:27:10
  Mahomes and Justin Jefferson, but their organizations and their surroundings go a long way
• 1:27:15
  towards helping them to become what they they became. How do we know for
• 1:27:16
  justin Jefferson. How do we know how impactful Adam Feeln was to his game.
• 1:27:21
  Maybe Adam Feelin is part of the reason why he clicked so early.
• 1:27:24
  I don't know. Not to mention, Mahomes gets to learn behind Alex Smith
• 1:27:28
  for a year, working with Andy Reid, having Travis Kelsey, having that
• 1:27:30
  offensive line, all these pieces one of the most amazing situations of this time,
• 1:27:35
  all the time Mahomes walked into and obviously like his carric and like then
• 1:27:40
  it's incumbent on the player to capitalize on that, right, like oh Andy
• 1:27:43
  Reid thing where he's like, yeah, first two and a half seconds to
• 1:27:45
  play his mind. After that it's yours. Some players aren't going to really
• 1:27:48
  buy into that. But not only was Mahomes like obviously an amazing human being
• 1:27:53
  in student and a really good leader, but also you have Andy Reid,
• 1:27:57
  who if he says that, the hell are you want to say back?
• 1:27:59
  Well any read no, like the credibility that he walked into, and even
• 1:28:03
  having a mentor like Alex Smith who was like, yeah, no, I'll
• 1:28:05
  take you under my wing, I'll help you out. But it is not
• 1:28:10
  talked about enough how and obviously all credit goes to Mahomes, But I do
• 1:28:14
  not think you could have envisioned a better system for him, especially with Tyreek
• 1:28:17
  Hill just waiting in the wags to pop off. Like obviously the offensive line
• 1:28:21
  took a while before it really got into its flow, but then he evolved
• 1:28:25
  that. Yes, but no, it goes to this, like you you
• 1:28:29
  can take a player who is an All Pro right now and just pluck them
• 1:28:32
  from that spot. You can't just pluck them from that spot and drop them
• 1:28:35
  into another team from their rookie year and just think it would be the same
• 1:28:39
  career in the same trajectory. Like nurture goes such a long way. The
• 1:28:43
  culture, the facilities, the training staff, the coaches, your teammates,
• 1:28:47
  the scheme, the structure, all of it. Like it's not just well,
• 1:28:49
  this player would have been great no matter where he went some dudes,
• 1:28:53
  I think that can apply to But nature and nurture go hand in hand in
• 1:28:57
  the league, And I think that gets lost so much because so many people
• 1:29:00
  think, oh, well, you know, Timmy sucked and he would have
• 1:29:03
  sucked anywhere he went. No, maybe if he went to twenty other teams
• 1:29:08
  he would have been a pretty good player and still in the league versus in
• 1:29:10
  the same on the other side, like, well, Timmy's amazing. He
• 1:29:12
  would have been amazing anywhere he went. It's like maybe not necessarily. Maybe
• 1:29:15
  I don't know, Maybe Justin Jefferson is only a wide receiver too, if
• 1:29:17
  he didn't go to Minnesota or something, or maybe if Mahomes started as a
• 1:29:21
  rookie for the Chicago Bears, maybe he's not Patrick Mahomes right now. Maybe
• 1:29:27
  he gets beat to absolute hell mentally and physically and isn't the player he is
• 1:29:31
  now. Like there's so many what ifs you can play let alone all the
• 1:29:35
  other like actual components, structurally, schematically and cultural. It's there's so many
• 1:29:40
  what IFFs. And it goes to like drafting for your building, drafting for
• 1:29:44
  your staff, knowing what you can do, knowing who you are, and
• 1:29:46
  how organizations fail players more than players fail organizations. Now, this is the
• 1:29:51
  last thing I'll say on this, but like Matt Jones is the current like
• 1:29:55
  poster child for this if he goes to the forty nine ers, Like obviously
• 1:29:58
  I think brock Party's got like enough in his game where I think that would
• 1:30:00
  be wild grafted. They would have like I think it would have been a
• 1:30:03
  legitimate competition, but like Mac Jones going to the forty nine ers probably still
• 1:30:08
  a starting quarterback. Instead, he goes to a team that didn't protect him,
• 1:30:12
  didn't give him any quick answers, gave him a different offensive coordinator and
• 1:30:15
  quarterback coach every single year of his career. Oh and his head coach was
• 1:30:21
  salty at him and literally iced him out and stopped talking to him. Where
• 1:30:26
  it's like, yeah, you put anybody into that, you put the homes
• 1:30:29
  in that situation, he's going to sink. And people like to talk about
• 1:30:32
  Mac Jones like he never had any potential, like he was a first round
• 1:30:36
  pick, Like yeah, he didn't have a lot of physical tools. But
• 1:30:39
  it's like no, if you help him, he can point guards your offense,
• 1:30:42
  like he can do all the things and not make the mistakes. But
• 1:30:45
  then you beat the guy to hell in his brain short circuit, and he
• 1:30:47
  started playing the worst football his literal entire life. Didn't get the sport on
• 1:30:51
  the field or off the field. And now people talk about this twenty five,
• 1:30:55
  twenty six year old guy like he's a piece of crap and like he
• 1:30:58
  never had any shot at making it in the league, and it frustrates me
• 1:31:00
  to no end because it's like, this is a guy who works very hard,
• 1:31:03
  does he has some things he needs to work on, disease, to
• 1:31:05
  grow up a little bit. Absolutely, he dirty and kicks people and does
• 1:31:09
  dirty stuff that I hate. Absolutely, yes, you know that that is
• 1:31:14
  definitely a there for discussion. But bottom line, like he got such an
• 1:31:16
  incredibly rod deal and I think Patriots fans will admit this, but like largely
• 1:31:21
  I feel like people act like it was, Oh, that was just a
• 1:31:25
  dumb pick, Like no one he was the only viable quarterback that they could
• 1:31:28
  have possibly thinks, and they absolutely ran him into the ground. And now
• 1:31:32
  you talk about the Patriots drafting someone, it's like, oh, the Patriots
• 1:31:35
  shouldn't get a quarterback because oh, they don't have a system of support him.
• 1:31:40
  Cut up, You're gonna pass on Drake May because your offense isn't good
• 1:31:44
  right now, that's dumb. You sit him for a year because you really
• 1:31:46
  want to protect him. Do that, but like learn from that, surround
• 1:31:50
  him with talent at some point and make it a priority rather than again taking
• 1:31:55
  defense with your first three picks when you don't have a left tackle or a
• 1:31:58
  wide receiver one like so, like you said, it's got a lot to
• 1:32:01
  do with the surroundings. And that goes back to drafting for me versus best
• 1:32:04
  player available, Like draft for what you need with that in mind, because
• 1:32:08
  if you don't, you're gonna get your quarterback killed and he's gonna lose his
• 1:32:11
  confidence and then he's gonna be a backup to a guy that he was drafted
• 1:32:14
  in the same round as before the end of his rookie contract. Yes,
• 1:32:16
  and I think this is a good comment too, Like Darnold has a similar
• 1:32:19
  story, like been in terrible situation most career, like that, he's one
• 1:32:21
  of the post even Zach. People love throwing out Zach Wilson is like,
• 1:32:27
  oh, and Drake May's gonna turn in him. We're like, oh,
• 1:32:29
  this guy's an acuratey Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson was a talented player. Was
• 1:32:31
  he should he being drafted where he was? No? Absolutely not. He
• 1:32:35
  was talented then went into a terrible situation where he got the crap kicked out
• 1:32:39
  of him, lost his confidence and there's this is football Like, It's not
• 1:32:44
  like getting the craft kicked out of you on a professional football field is not
• 1:32:47
  fun. It could only take a year for a guy to lose confidence,
• 1:32:49
  and there's no pumps that ever comes back, especially when it doesn't feel like
• 1:32:54
  your organization is really bought into you. And the Jets have not done that
• 1:32:58
  for any of their quarterbacks not named Aaron Rodgers. And then they overcorrected because
• 1:33:01
  now Aaron Rodgers is a dictator and could do whatever the hell he wants,
• 1:33:04
  even though he's forty five years old, not actually forty five, but you
• 1:33:08
  know what I'm saying, Yeah, I hate those comparisons where it's like,
• 1:33:11
  oh, it's this bust. It's like, look at the bust. Was
• 1:33:14
  it his fault? Was he supported and he just wasn't good enough? Period?
• 1:33:17
  Like we rarely even see instances of a guy who really had support,
• 1:33:21
  and like Jimmy Garoppolo maybe is like one of the examples where he seemed talented,
• 1:33:26
  then he went to a great system and it's like, oh, he's
• 1:33:28
  just not it. That's fine, yes, but yeah, like Darnold Wilson,
• 1:33:30
  I hate those comparisons with these young quarterbacks because it's so so unfair because
• 1:33:35
  they're just put in these positions to fail and never really get a chance to
• 1:33:40
  revitalize their careers. Yes, and it man, I love how passionate you
• 1:33:44
  are about this. Very interesting. But because Macktt really like grinds my gears
• 1:33:48
  for all these guys, because it really isn't a perspective like these are people's
• 1:33:53
  careers, and these are often guys who aren't even thirty years old yet,
• 1:33:56
  and they just get ripped to shreds, and no one likes to add context
• 1:34:00
  or nuanced to the ges, just like, oh, this guy sucks.
• 1:34:03
  No, he went in the first round for a reason, and you did
• 1:34:05
  nothing to make sure that he could be the best he could be. Shame
• 1:34:09
  on you. The one that I always I like it, Mike, Yeah,
• 1:34:13
  Mike side, My heart hurts my left arm fields. I always think
• 1:34:16
  it too, like the I remember with the whole Eagles dream team stuff with
• 1:34:21
  like Vince Young and them back then, and I remember Nandi Asomwa, the
• 1:34:25
  corner who is sick with the Raiders man coverage and with the Raiders man coverage
• 1:34:30
  all day, and he goes to Philly where they don't play man coverage,
• 1:34:34
  and I remember him struggling. I remember everybody just being like, oh,
• 1:34:36
  he sucks, and these moves were all terrible, and he was never good
• 1:34:39
  this and that, And I remember being like little and thinking like yeah,
• 1:34:42
  but like he's not playing man coverage, how come? And then I remember
• 1:34:45
  also being like if you were Namdi asomwah, why would you go there if
• 1:34:48
  that's the scheme doesn't fit you? And then I was like, well,
• 1:34:50
  he got paid a boatload of money, so he chased the bag, which
• 1:34:53
  is very understandable, But that that context and that nuance gets left out,
• 1:34:58
  like so much. Even Gabe Davis like to put him in a conversation like
• 1:35:02
  he's good at certain things, he's not good and other certain things. But
• 1:35:06
  I thought you put him in the right offense and like more of like a
• 1:35:10
  play action power run oriented type of offense where you can leak him out and
• 1:35:14
  do different things, Like he could be a much more viable piece if you're
• 1:35:16
  putting him in the spread offense and wanting him to be a wide receiver too,
• 1:35:19
  that's not necessarily fit to his skill set. But so much of that
• 1:35:24
  gets lost, And I think it's from a larger perspective. People don't watch
• 1:35:27
  all twenty two. People don't know like x's and o's or scheme instructure,
• 1:35:30
  so it's harder to see that, but yeah, people just get blanket statements
• 1:35:32
  of Nope, this guy sucks or Yep, this guy's amazing, and that
• 1:35:36
  context and that nuance gets left out of it. That's very well said.
• 1:35:40
  Last question for you, Taylor, and then we're gonna get you out of
• 1:35:42
  here because I've kept you way too long, which I apologize for. What
• 1:35:45
  are the Pats going to do in round one? Who are they taking?
• 1:35:47
  Where are they going to trade out of that pick? Are they taken a
• 1:35:50
  QB? Are they gonna take Marvin Harrison Junior? In the most recent mock
• 1:35:56
  that I did, they took Marvin Harrison Junior at three and then they took
• 1:36:00
  ad Mitchell at thirty four, which I was like, what what has happened
• 1:36:03
  with the simulator? But I thought it was interesting. So yeah, you're
• 1:36:06
  available. Strikes again, Bpa man, take it, take it, if
• 1:36:10
  you smoke them, if you got them. What's your prediction for the pass
• 1:36:13
  in round one? What should the Bills expect or the Bills fans, I
• 1:36:15
  should say, expect the Pats to do in round one. I think if
• 1:36:18
  Drake may is there, you sprint and you turn that card in, I
• 1:36:24
  think they'll do the same for Jayden Daniels, I don't want them to.
• 1:36:28
  Okay, if Drake may is off the board, I would like some type
• 1:36:30
  of trade that. Whether it's like the Vikings and you get eleven twenty three
• 1:36:34
  future first and then you trade back into the top five or what have you.
• 1:36:39
  I think you find some way to get JJ McCarthy. Oh again,
• 1:36:43
  I'm drafting for upside. If you are using this pick, you need to
• 1:36:46
  invest it in someone who you think you can develop and turn him into a
• 1:36:50
  really, really good player. I think Jaden is going to be a very
• 1:36:55
  good player. I do. But the size scares me, like legitimately,
• 1:37:00
  I don't even know if he's gonna be healthy enough to stay on the field.
• 1:37:02
  The armstrong, the armstrength scares me, especially in New England where he's
• 1:37:05
  gonna have to drive throws and it's gonna be tough in your windy conditions.
• 1:37:09
  And like one of the biggest reasons Tom, like you think of that game
• 1:37:12
  where Tom Brady and Peyton Manning We're going back and forth in the win game.
• 1:37:15
  How many times Peyton Maning threw to the wind and because his arm was
• 1:37:18
  shot at that point, just yeah, ducks, ducks in the air,
• 1:37:23
  ducks in the air flicing through because he had that tight spiral in his massive
• 1:37:27
  hands, and it just it's a lot easier for him. So there's that
• 1:37:30
  and the fact that you know, now there's other things about his game that
• 1:37:32
  I think you can fix, but really for me, and also the age,
• 1:37:35
  I think that's kind of underrated, for overrated for quarterbacks, Like these
• 1:37:38
  guys can play it when they're in their late thirties. It's like two three
• 1:37:41
  contracts. I don't really care if he guy's twenty four that much, but
• 1:37:44
  I do care when he comes to his development. So with Jaden, like,
• 1:37:47
  can he get better? I think he can. I still think the
• 1:37:49
  running ability combined with the deep passing, he's gonna be good. Like those
• 1:37:55
  are two things that no one wants to have to deal with, and it's
• 1:37:56
  impossible to fend both at the same time. Absolutely, But I just don't
• 1:38:00
  feel comfortable taking him at three. I think it's too rich. If he's
• 1:38:03
  there at like ten, yeah, that's good value. I like that,
• 1:38:08
  but yeah, no, I think the Patriots are gonna take Drake May as
• 1:38:11
  quickly as possible if he's their three. If not, I think they're gonna
• 1:38:15
  take Jaden, But I also know they're very high on JJ, so i'd
• 1:38:17
  like to if you just like him and you want to take JJ at number
• 1:38:20
  three, you know, like, I don't love that either because of the
• 1:38:25
  unproven element of it. But at the same time, if he's a pro
• 1:38:27
  bowler at the end of his rookie deal or you know, in three years
• 1:38:30
  or whatever, then it's like, yeah, who cares when he was taking
• 1:38:31
  It doesn't really matter if you feel that confident. But it's quarterback. Bottom
• 1:38:34
  line is quarterback. They're not taking marviin Arison Junior. I just think they
• 1:38:38
  have When you have a need at left tackle and quarterback, it just doesn't
• 1:38:41
  seem responsible. If they trade back, maybe you're talking like Penix at eleven
• 1:38:45
  or twenty three and then like an O Lukushanu or somebody like that to get
• 1:38:49
  your tackle and then maybe you wait on a receiver. But yeah, I
• 1:38:54
  think he got to addrest a quarterback position. I mean, it's already the
• 1:38:58
  effect of not having a quarterback has already screw them because they were losing out
• 1:39:00
  on free agents because people don't know what direction you're in. It's just kind
• 1:39:04
  of a tough place to be because that leader, like they have Jacobe Brissett,
• 1:39:08
  but he's on a one year deal. Yes, so not really knowing
• 1:39:11
  where your team is going long term, I think is a bad place to
• 1:39:14
  be in a rebuild like this, when you have the capital to get a
• 1:39:16
  guy who at least you can have that investment in and if you know after
• 1:39:19
  two years, three years, or like, he's not the guy, if
• 1:39:23
  you're bad, just invest again. You're gonna have another high pick. So
• 1:39:26
  yeah, I think it's it's got to be quarterback at the very least.
• 1:39:30
  I know so many Bills hands watching this. Just appreciate the tea, the
• 1:39:34
  salt from your tears on the pats right now in the struggle that you're involved
• 1:39:39
  in. But I I'll enjoy the tears you guys crashing back down or too.
• 1:39:42
  Don't worry, We've no dare you. You're the guest. That's so
• 1:39:45
  mean. I mean the audience. Your audience knows I love them. So
• 1:39:49
  it's just it's all fun in games. But man, I'm sure those I
• 1:39:54
  am very interested to see what the you know I and I know that wasn't
• 1:39:57
  bills related, but that was the last piece I wanted you answer here on
• 1:40:00
  the show. Just because again it's a division rival, a team that's tormented
• 1:40:04
  the Bills for so long, and they potentially could really turn things around with
• 1:40:12
  this draft class, with the capital they have, the needs they have,
• 1:40:15
  and where their picks sit. I mean again, we could be sitting here,
• 1:40:19
  say Washington takes Daniels at two right, and they get May. I
• 1:40:25
  know you're hoping for that, and the Pats get May and he turned he
• 1:40:27
  balls out. Maybe we're sitting here in four years again as Bills fans being
• 1:40:30
  like, remember when Washington screwed us because they took Daniels instead of May,
• 1:40:34
  and then that let the Pats get May and like got like just a year
• 1:40:39
  after, they let the Patriots get Christighanzalees because they were so sold on a
• 1:40:42
  manual Forbes man aj Brown's son, I love that's funny. I loved Christian
• 1:40:48
  Gonzalez so much, and even though I hate the Patriots, I was so
• 1:40:51
  sad when he got hurt. I just loved his tape so much. And
• 1:40:56
  part of the reason why I like Jayln McMillan, the wide receiver from Washington,
• 1:41:00
  because I went back to his twenty twenty two tape and he gave Christian
• 1:41:03
  Gonzalez the business at times, and I thought Christian Gonzalez was hands down CB
• 1:41:09
  one for me, and he showed a lot of what he could do in
• 1:41:12
  the brief time he spent his rookie before he got hurt. And that made
• 1:41:14
  me think McMillan was even better because I was watching him go up and handle
• 1:41:17
  business against Christian Gonzales. Yeah, there's some dudes on the Pats and then
• 1:41:21
  being able to retain Kyle Dugger Barmore is super underrated because he's been banged up
• 1:41:26
  a whole bunch Ooch decided to come back like man, Anthony Jennings is one
• 1:41:30
  of the best, like edge set or where did Anthony Jennings go? Did
• 1:41:32
  he go back to New England? No? So yeah, yeah he went
• 1:41:34
  back deal. He was one of my guys where I'm like, they need
• 1:41:36
  to bring him. He's one of the best edge defenders, the most tackled
• 1:41:41
  for loss behind like Matt Crosby's. His stops and stop percentage is tremendous at
• 1:41:45
  edge. He had a part of the reason. One of the clips I
• 1:41:47
  always show for like Gabe Davis being a good blocker is the second game against
• 1:41:51
  New England last year when he's lined up like in a tight split and he
• 1:41:57
  blocks Anthony Jennings and carries him downfield, and I was like, oh,
• 1:42:00
  because I have so much respect for Jennings with that. Yeah, they got
• 1:42:01
  some pieces and if they can get that quarterback and start to turn some things
• 1:42:04
  around, it's something that none of us want to see, but wanted to
• 1:42:08
  get your take on that. You have been absolutely tremendous. And again,
• 1:42:11
  I know we went longer than we did. I'm so sorry. Yeah,
• 1:42:15
  we always do. It's kind of expected at this point, but I also
• 1:42:16
  appreciate you. You're tremendous. We did a little intro on you. It's
• 1:42:20
  in the episode bio. It's on Twitter all that stuff. But just in
• 1:42:24
  case people came in late or they don't know or don't have any of that
• 1:42:27
  stuff or read that stuff, the floor is yours. Tell anyone and everyone
• 1:42:30
  who you are, what you do, where they can find you, and
• 1:42:32
  all that good stuff. The floor is yours. Absolutely, Thank you,
• 1:42:35
  buddy, Always in absolute delight. My name is Sailor Kyle's I'm on Twitter
• 1:42:40
  at t Kyle thirty nine. You can find me on Sealingsmedia dot com.
• 1:42:44
  That's where my written stuff is YouTube Patriots Press pass. I would like to
• 1:42:48
  have you on next week. I've honestly probably I haven't written down. I'm
• 1:42:50
  like in caps it says steal this idea, So I might have to do
• 1:42:56
  that with you next week if you've got any free time, So check that
• 1:42:59
  out next week. But yeah, I'm like dropping different podcasts every day,
• 1:43:01
  Patriots related. If you just want to, you know, see me say
• 1:43:04
  stupid stuff, then you can tune in. You're more than welcome And yeah,
• 1:43:09
  those are my those are my hotspots. And thank you again, buddy.
• 1:43:11
  I really appreciated as well. Of course, I'm just glad you still
• 1:43:14
  have time for the little people. Once you were on, you know,
• 1:43:15
  with Mina times, I just thought I was never gonna hear from me again.
• 1:43:18
  I was like, Taylor's on with Mina, it's over. But you
• 1:43:21
  know, you're just you stick true to your roots and you're just humbling down
• 1:43:26
  to earth and despite the fact that you're you know, you've got a rocket
• 1:43:29
  ships track in your back. I appreciate you. Yeah, but you I
• 1:43:30
  tell everybody all the time, like, and you know you've heard this spiel
• 1:43:34
  because you've been on the show a bunch, Like I always think even if
• 1:43:36
  you are a fan of one team, you need to stay up on all
• 1:43:40
  the other teams. And you are my go to for anything and everything Patriots.
• 1:43:44
  And it's not just because you're on the beat now, it's because you
• 1:43:45
  understand football scheme structure, x's and o's, and you're a great follow on
• 1:43:50
  Twitter again at t Kyle's thirty nine and the thirty nine is for Danny Woodhead
• 1:43:55
  because that's how much of an OJ Pats fan and real Pats fan that Taylor
• 1:43:59
  was before he was in this professional space. But yeah, you do a
• 1:44:01
  lot of great stuff breaking down film, player scheme structure, all that stuff.
• 1:44:04
  So even if you're not trying to get up on the paths, you're
• 1:44:08
  just a good football educator and knowledge person. And if you want me next
• 1:44:11
  week, you got me. I'm sure I'll text you in five minutes or
• 1:44:13
  so to confirm on that. But yeah, I appreciate the hell out of
• 1:44:15
  you. Enjoy what's left of your Tuesday night, and I'll see you in
• 1:44:19
  Texter on the Twitter world or whatever you got and real quick, I want
• 1:44:21
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• 1:44:25
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• 1:44:29
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• 1:44:31
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• 1:44:34
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• 1:45:04
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• 1:45:08
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  Eastern, but you will get some content from the film room and yeah,
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  that'll do it. Oh, Claude saying, and you're awesome man, good
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  night. Was he one of your favorite guests? Yeah, I don't say
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  it for a lot of people. I know I've said it recently, but
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  that's because I've just been playing the hits and bringing out my favorite guests recently.
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  Yeah, he's fantastic. Oh question here saying, can you tell me
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  why McKinny got more money than Dougar. You know what's funny is I saw
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  the contract projections for Xavier mckittie coming out of the Giants, and I didn't
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  think he was gonna get that much, and then he got more of them
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  what the projection was go into Green Bay. I think McKinney's good. I
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  think Dougger's better. I'm still confused by how much money McKinny got. I
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  know that there was a void there for the Packers, especially with them losing
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  Savage. But and again I say this as a person who likes McKinney,
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  But but I didn't think he was gonna get all that money just from a
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  tape perspective. And I guess maybe I don't watch enough Giants ball. But
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  and again, I think he's a good player. I didn't think he was
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  gonna get that kind of money that he got, plus the way he kind
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  of went out with the Giants and him and Wink not getting along on some
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  things that were said. I'm still a little surprised about. So I can't
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  tell you why McKinney got more money than Kyle Dugger. Maybe I'm also biased
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  because I just love the way Kyle Dugger plays ball, even though he doesn't
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  gravitate towards more of that free safety role. Like Taylor mentioned, Joy the
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  underscorees A n T. Again. I hope you and your family and friends
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  and loved ones are all doing well and staying safe. Be kind of one
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  another, take care of one another. I'll see you next week for another
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  episode of disguised coverage, no film room tomorrow night. In terms of a
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  live episode, we will be dropping some kind of content related to last week's
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  episode until next time, until next week, whenever I see a godspeed and
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