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DJT Audio Archive: Republican Debate #6 - North Charleston, South Carolina (January 14, 2016) · Real Donald Trump Wisdom

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The field of candidates is getting smaller. And
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with every day, the end of the road gets closer.
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Tonight, the road leads to South Carolina. Home
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of the first in the South Republican primary.
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Where history has proven the eventual nominee
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needs a strong finish. In the low country, American
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industry is thriving. Unemployment is on the
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decline. And people are moving here in record
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numbers. Charleston has also suffered unimaginable
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tragedy. It has lived the nightmare that has
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haunted too many American communities. But it's
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citizens. There are just 18 days until the Iowa
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caucuses. 37 days until the South Carolina primary.
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Tonight, the election year officially kicks off.
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with the very first debate of 2016. It is 9 p
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.m. here at the North Charleston Coliseum at
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Performing Arts Center in South Carolina. Welcome
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to the sixth Republican presidential debate of
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the 2016 campaign here on the Fox Business Network.
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I'm Neil Cavuto alongside my friend and co -moderator,
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Maria Bartiromo. Tonight, we are working with
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Facebook to ask the candidates the questions
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voters want answered. And according to Facebook,
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the U .S. election has dominated the global conversation,
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with 131 million people talking about the 2016
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race. That makes it the number one issue talked
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about on Facebook last year worldwide. Now, the
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seven candidates on the stage tonight were selected
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based on their standing in six national polls,
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as well as polls in the early voting states of
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Iowa and New Hampshire. determining the position
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on the stage of the candidates tonight. And here
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they are. Businessman Donald Trump. Texas Senator
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Ted Cruz. Florida Senator Marco Rubio. General
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Surgeon Ben Carson. New Jersey Governor Chris
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Christie. Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush. And
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Ohio Governor John Kasich. Tonight's rules are
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simple. Up to 90 seconds for each answer, one
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minute for each follow -up response. And if a
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candidate goes over the allotted time, you'll
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hear this. So let's get started. Candidates,
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jobs and growth, two of the biggest issues facing
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the country right now. In his State of the Union
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address earlier this week, the president said,
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quote, we have the strongest, most durable economy
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in the world. is one of the biggest issues resonating
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across the country, including here in South Carolina.
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The president is touting 14 million new jobs
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and an unemployment rate cut in half. The president
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says that anyone who claims America's economy
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is in decline is peddling fiction. Senator Cruz,
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what do you see that he doesn't? Well, Maria,
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thank you for that question, and let me say thank
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you to the state of South Carolina for welcoming
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us. Let me start. I want to get to the substance
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of the question on jobs, but I want to start
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with something. Today, many of us picked up our
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newspapers, and we were horrified to see the
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sight of 10 American sailors on their knees with
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their hands on their heads. In that State of
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the Union, President Obama didn't so much as
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mention the 10 sailors that had been captured
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by Iran. President Obama is preparing to send
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$100 billion or more to the Ayatollah Khomeini.
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And I'll tell you, it was heartbreaking. But
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the good news is, the next commander -in -chief
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is standing on this stage. And I give you my
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word, if I am elected president, no serviceman
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or servicewoman will be forced to be on their
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knees, and any nation that captures our fighting
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men and women will feel the full force and fury
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of the United States of America. Now on to your
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substantive question. The president tried to
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paint a rosy picture of jobs. And you know, he's
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right. If you're a Washington lobbyist, if you
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make your money in and around Washington, things
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are doing great. The millionaires and billionaires
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are doing great under Obama, but we have the
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lowest percentage of Americans working today
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of any year since 1977. Median wages have stagnated,
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and the Obama -Clinton economy... has left behind
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the working men and women of this country. The
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reason all of us are here is we believe we should
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be fighting for the working men and women of
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this country and not Washington, D .C. Thank
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you, sir. Governor Kasich, we are not even two
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weeks in to this stock trading year. But think
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about it. Investors have already lost $1 .6 trillion
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in market value. That makes it the worst start
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to a new year ever. Many worry that things could
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get even worse and that banks and financial stocks
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are particularly vulnerable. Now, if this escalates
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like it did back when Barack Obama first assumed
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the presidency, what actions would you take if
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the same thing happens all over again, just as,
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in this example, you are taking over the presidency?
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Well, look, it takes three things, basically,
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to grow jobs. And I've done it when I was in
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Washington, when we had a balanced budget, had
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four years of balanced budgets, paid down a half
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a trillion of debt, and our economy was growing
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like crazy. It's the same thing that I did in
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Ohio. It's a simple formula. Common sense regulations,
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which is why I think we should freeze all federal
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regulations for one year except for health and
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safety. It requires tax cuts because that sends
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a message to the job creators that things are
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headed the right way. And if you tax cuts, if
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you cut taxes for corporations and you cut taxes
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for individuals. You're going to make things
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move, particularly the corporate tax, which is
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the highest, of course, in the world. But in
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addition to that, we have to have fiscal discipline.
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We have to show that we can march to a balanced
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budget. And when you do that, when you're in
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a position of managing regulations, when you
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reduce taxes and when you have fiscal discipline,
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you see the job creators begin to get very comfortable
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with the fact that they can invest. You have
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taxes that are too high. You have regulations.
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I mean, come on. They're affecting everybody
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here, particularly our small businesses. They
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are here, particularly our small businesses.
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They're in a position where they're smothering
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people. And, I mean, are you kidding me? We're
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nowhere close to a balanced budget or fiscal
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discipline. Those three things put together.
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are going to get confidence to job creators,
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and you will begin to see wages rise. You will
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begin to see jobs created in a robust economy.
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And how do I know it? Because I've done it. I
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did it as the chairman of the Budget Committee
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working with Senator Domenici, and I've done
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it in the state of Ohio as the chief executive.
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Our wages are growing faster than the national
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average. We're running surpluses, and we can
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take that message and that formula to Washington
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to lift every single American to a better life.
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We know that recent global events have many people
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worried. Iran detaining American sailors, forcing
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them to apologize, North Korea and its nuclear
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ambitions, an aggressive China, and a Middle
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East that continues to deteriorate, not to mention
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ISIS is getting stronger. Governor Christie,
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sometimes it seems the world is on fire. Where
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and when should a president use military action
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to restore order? Well, Maria, I'm glad to have
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heard from you in the summary of that question
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about what's going on in the world, because on
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Tuesday night I watched Storytime with Barack
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Obama, and I've got to tell you, it sounded like
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everything in the world was going amazing, you
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know? The fact is there's a number of things
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that the next president is going to have to do
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to clean up this mess. The first thing is we
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have to strengthen our alliances around the world.
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And the best way to do that is to start talking
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to our allies again and having them be able to
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count on our word. Lots of people will say lots
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of different things about me and this campaign
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and others. But the one thing they've never said
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about me is that I'm misunderstood. And so, when
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we talk to our allies and we give them our word
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in a Christie administration, they know we're
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going to keep it. Next, we have to talk to our
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adversaries, and we have to make sure they understand
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the limits of our patience. And this president,
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given what Ted said right at the beginning, is
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absolutely right. It's absolutely disgraceful.
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that Secretary Kerry and others said in their
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response to what's going on in Iran, that this
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was a good thing. It showed how the relationship
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was getting better. The president doesn't understand.
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And, by the way, neither does Secretary Clinton.
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And here's my warning to everybody out in the
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audience tonight. If you're worried about the
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world being on fire, you're worried about how
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we're going to use our military, you're worried
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about strengthening our military, and you're
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worried most of all— about keeping your homes
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and your families safe and secure. You cannot
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give Hillary Clinton a third term of Barack Obama's
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leadership. I will not do that. If I'm the nominee,
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she won't get within 10 miles of the White House.
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Military action, Maria, would be used when it
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was absolutely necessary to protect American
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lives and protect American interests around the
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world. We are not the world's policemen. But
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we need to stand up and be ready. And the problem,
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Maria, is that the military is not ready either.
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We need to rebuild our military. And this president
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has led it diminished to a point where tin -pot
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dictators like the mullahs in Iran are taking
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our Navy ships. It is disgraceful. And in the
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Christie administration, they would know much,
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much better than to do that. The president just
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told the nation two nights ago that America's
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back and that the idea that our enemies are getting
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stronger or that this country is getting weaker,
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well, it's just rhetoric and hot air. Now, other
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Democrats go even further, sort of saying Republicans
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even suggesting such comments actually embolden
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our enemies. I guess they would include you.
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What do you say? Well, first of all, the idea
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that somehow— We're better off today than the
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day that Barack Obama was inaugurated president
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of the United States. It's totally an alternative
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universe. The simple fact is that the world has
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been torn asunder. Think about it. With grandiose
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language, the president talks about red lines
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and nothing to follow it up, talks about ISIS
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being the JV team. They form a caliphate the
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size of Indiana with 35 ,000 to 40 ,000 battle
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-tested terrorists. He's missing the whole point
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that America's leadership in the world is required
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for peace and stability. In the crowd today is
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Major General James Livingston, who's the co
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-chairman of my campaign here in South Carolina,
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a Medal of Honor recipient. I've learned from
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him that what we need to achieve is peace through
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strength, which means we need to rebuild the
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military. In this administration, every weapon
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system has been gutted. In this administration,
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the force levels are going down to a level where
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we can't even project force. Our friends no longer
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think we have their back, and our enemies no
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longer fear us. And we're in a much difficult—we're
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in a much different position than we should be.
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And for the life of me, I have no understanding
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why the president thinks that everything is going
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well. Terrorism is on the run. China, Russia
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is advancing their agenda at warp speed. And
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we pull back. As president of the United States,
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I will be a commander -in -chief that will have
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the back of the military. We will rebuild the
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military to make sure that it is a solid force,
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not to be the world's policeman, but to make
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sure that in a peaceful world, people know that
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the United States is there to take care of our
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own national interests and take care of our allies.
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I take it for that you do not agree with the
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president. No, and worse, worse yet, to be honest
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with you. Hillary Clinton would be a national
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security disaster. Think about it. She wants
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to continue down the path of Iran, Benghazi,
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the Russian reset, Dodd -Frank, all the things
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that have gone wrong in this country. She would
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be a national security mess, and that is wrong.
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And you know what? Here's the problem. If she
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gets elected, she's under investigation with
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the FBI right now. If she gets elected, her first
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100 days, instead of setting an agenda, she might
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be going back and forth between the White House
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and the courthouse. We need to stop that. Senator
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Rubio, the president says that ISIS doesn't threaten
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our national existence like Germany or Japan
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did back in World War II, that the terror group
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is nothing more than twisted souls plotting attacks
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in their garages. But the House Homeland Security
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Committee recently said that over 1 ,000 ongoing
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investigations. of homegrown extremism in 50
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states. So how do you define the threat? Was
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Germany then or dangerous nutcases now? Yeah,
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I would go, first of all, one step further in
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this description of Hillary Clinton. She wouldn't
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just be a disaster. Hillary Clinton is disqualified
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from being commander -in -chief of the United
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States. Someone who cannot handle intelligence
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information appropriately cannot be commander
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-in -chief. And someone who lies to the families
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of those four victims in Benghazi can never be
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president of the United States. On the issue
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of Barack Obama, Barack Obama does not believe
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that America is a great global power. Barack
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Obama believes that America is an arrogant global
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power that needs to be cut down to size. And
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that's how you get a foreign policy where we
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cut deals with our enemies like Iran. And we
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betray our allies like Israel. And we gut our
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military. And we go around the world like he
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has done on 10 separate occasions and apologized
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for America. He doesn't understand the threat
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in ISIS. He consistently underestimates it, but
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I do not. There is a war against ISIS, not just
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against ISIS, but against radical jihadist terrorists.
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And it is a war that either they win or we win.
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When I'm president of the United States, we are
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going to win this war on ISIS. The most powerful
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intelligence agency in the world is going to
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tell us where they are. The most powerful military
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in the world is going to destroy them. And if
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we capture any of them alive, they are getting
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a one -way ticket to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and
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we are going to find out everything they know.
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Thank you, Senator. Dr. Carson, the president
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says he does not want to treat ISIS as a foreign
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army. But ISIS is neither a country nor a government.
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How do you attack a network? does not respect
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national borders well I'm very happy to get a
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question this early on I was going to ask you
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to wake me up on the time tank you know I I find
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it really quite fascinating some of the president's
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proclamations. The fact of the matter is he doesn't
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realize that we now live in the 21st century
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and that war is very different than it used to
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be before. Not armies massively marching on each
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other and air forces, but now we have dirty bombs
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and we have cyber attacks and we have people
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who will be attacking our electrical grid. And,
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you know, we have a whole variety of things that
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they can do, and they can do these things simultaneously.
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And we have enemies who are obtaining nuclear
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weapons that they can explode in our exo -atmosphere
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and destroy our electric grid. I mean, just think
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about a scenario like that. They explode the
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bomb. We have an electromagnetic pulse. They
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hit us with a cyberattack simultaneously and
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dirty bombs. Can you imagine the chaos that would
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ensue at that point? He needs to recognize that
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those kinds of things are, in fact, an existential
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threat to us. But here's the real key. We have
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the world's best military, even though he's done
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everything he can to diminish it. And the fact
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of the matter is, if we give them a mission and
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we don't tie their hands behind their back, they
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can get it accomplished. At the State of the
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Union, the president pointed to a guest who was
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a Syrian refugee, you might recall, whose wife
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and daughter and other family members were killed
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in an air attack. Now, he fled that country seeking
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asylum here, ultimately ended up in Detroit,
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where he's now trying to start a new life. The
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president says that that doctor is the real face
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of these refugees and not the one that you and
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some of your colleagues on this stage are painting.
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that you prefer the face of fear and terror,
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and that you would refuse to let in anyone into
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this country seeking legitimate asylum. How do
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you answer that? It's not fear and terror. It's
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reality. You just have to look today at Indonesia.
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Bombings all over. You look at California. You
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look, frankly, at Paris, where there's the strictest
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no -gun policy of any city anywhere in the world.
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and you see what happens 130 people dead with
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many to follow they're very very badly wounded
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they will ex some will follow and you look around
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and you see what's happening and this is not
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the case when he introduced the doctor Very nice.
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Everything perfect. But that's not representative
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of what you have in that line of migration. That
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could be the great Trojan horse. It could be
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people that are going to do great, great destruction.
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When I look at the migration, I looked at the
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line. I said it actually on your show recently.
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Where are the women? They look like very few
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women, very few children, strong, powerful men,
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young. And people are looking at that and they're
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saying, what's going on? You look at the kind
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of damage that two people that got married, they
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were radicalized, they got married, they killed
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15 people, and actually 14 going to be probably
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16. You look at that, and you take a look, a
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good, strong look, and that's what we have. We
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owe $19 trillion. Our country's a mess, and we
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can't let all these people come into our countries
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and break our borders. We can't do it. The New
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York Times is reporting that you failed to properly
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disclose a million dollars in loans from Goldman
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Sachs and Citibank during your Senate race. Your
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campaign says it was inadvertent. A million dollars
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is inadvertent? Well, Maria, thank you for passing
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on that hit piece on the front page of the New
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York Times. You know, the nice thing about the
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mainstream media, they don't hide their views.
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The New York Times a few weeks back had a columnist
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who wrote a column saying, anybody but Cruz.
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That same columnist wrote a column comparing
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me to an evil demonic spirit from the movie It
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Follows that jumps apparently from body to body
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possessing people. You know, the New York Times
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and I don't exactly have the warmest of relationships.
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Now, in terms of their really stunning hit piece,
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what they mentioned is when I was running for
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Senate, unlike Hillary Clinton, I don't have
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masses of money in the bank, hundreds of millions
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of dollars. When I was running for Senate, just
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about every lobbyist, just about all of the establishment
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opposed me in the Senate race in Texas. And my
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opponent in that race was worth over $200 million.
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He put a $25 million check from his own pocket
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to fund that campaign. And my wife Heidi and
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I, we ended up investing everything we own. We
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took a loan against our assets to invest it in
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that campaign to defend ourselves against those
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attacks. And the entire New York Times attack
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is that I disclosed that loan on one filing with
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the United States Senate that was a public filing.
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but it was not on a second filing with the FEC.
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Both of those filings were public, and yes, I
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made a paperwork error disclosing it on one piece
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of paper instead of the other, but if that's
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the best hit the New York Times has got, they
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better go back to the well. Thank you, sir. All
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right, well, we are just getting started here
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in South Carolina, and there is a lot to get
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to, including things like gun rights, the national
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debt, and the sometimes nasty war words between,
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well, a couple of these fellows up here. More
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to this. Welcome back to the Republican presidential
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debate right here in North Charleston, South
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Carolina. Let's get right back to the questions.
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And I'll start with you, Senator Cruz. Now, you
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are, of course, a strict constitutionalist. No
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one would doubt that. And as you know, the U
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.S. Constitution says only natural -born citizens
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are eligible for the office of President of the
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United States. Stop me if you've heard this before.
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Now, you were born in Canada to an American mother,
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so you were and are considered an American citizen.
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But that fellow next to you, Donald Trump, and
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others, have said that being born in Canada means
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you are not natural born, and that has raised
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questions about your eligibility. Do you want
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to try to close this topic once and for all tonight?
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Well, Neil, I'm glad we are focusing on the important
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topics of the evening. You know, back in September,
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my friend Donald said that he had had his lawyers
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look at this from every which way. And there
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was no issue there. There was nothing to this
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birther issue. Now, since September, the Constitution
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hasn't changed. But the poll numbers have. I
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recognize that Donald is dismayed that his poll
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numbers are falling in Iowa. But the facts and
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the law here are really quite clear. Under longstanding
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U .S. law, the child of a U .S. citizen born
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abroad is a natural born citizen. If a soldier
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has a child abroad, that child is a natural born
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citizen. That's why John McCain, even though
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he was born in Panama, was eligible to run for
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president. If an American missionary has a child
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abroad, that child is a natural born citizen.
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That's why George Romney, Mitt's dad, was eligible
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to run for president, even though he was born
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in Mexico. At the end of the day, the legal issue
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is quite straightforward, but I would note that
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the birther theories that Donald has been relying
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on, some of the more extreme ones insist that
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you must not only be born on U .S. soil, but
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have two parents born on U .S. soil under that
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theory. Not only would I be disqualified, Marco
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Rubio would be disqualified, Bobby Jindal would
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be disqualified, and interestingly enough, Donald
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J. Trump would be disqualified. Donald's mother
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was born in Scotland. She was naturalized. Now,
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Donald... On the issue of citizenship, Donald,
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I'm not going to use your mother's birth against
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you. You're an American, as is everybody else
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on this stage, and I would suggest we focus on
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who's best prepared to be commander -in -chief,
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because that's the most important question facing
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the country. Let me just tell you something and
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you know because you just saw the numbers yourself
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NBC Wall Street Journal just came out with a
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poll headline Trump way up Cruz going down. I
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mean so don't see you can't You can't they don't
26:13
like the Wall Street Journal. They don't like
26:14
NBC, but I like the poll and frankly it just
26:17
came out and In Iowa now, as you know, Ted, in
26:22
the last three polls, I'm beating you. So, you
26:25
know, you shouldn't misrepresent how well you're
26:26
doing with the polls. You don't have to say that.
26:29
In fact, I was all for you until you started
26:31
doing that because that's a misrepresentation.
26:33
Number one. Number two. This isn't me saying
26:36
it. I don't care. I think I'm going to win fair
26:39
and square. I don't have to win this way. Thank
26:42
you. Lawrence Tribe and numerous from Harvard,
26:46
of Harvard. said that there is a serious question
26:49
as to whether or not Ted can do this, okay? There
26:52
are other attorneys that feel, and very, very
26:55
fine constitutional attorneys, that feel that
26:58
because he was not born on the land, he cannot
27:02
run for office. Here's the problem. We're running.
27:04
We're running. He does great. I win. I choose
27:07
him as my vice presidential candidate, and the
27:10
Democrats sue because we can't take him along
27:14
for the ride. I don't like that, okay? The fact
27:18
is, and if for some reason he beats the rest
27:22
of the field, he beats the rest of the field.
27:25
See, they don't like that. They don't like that.
27:28
No, they don't like that he beats the rest of
27:30
the field because they want me. And for some
27:35
reason, Neil. He beats the rest of the field.
27:38
I already know the Democrats are going to be
27:40
bringing a suit. You have a big lawsuit over
27:44
your head while you're running. And if you become
27:46
the nominee, who the hell knows if you can even
27:49
serve in office. So you should go out, get a
27:51
declaratory judgment, let the courts decide.
27:55
And you shouldn't have mentioned the polls because
27:57
I would have been much different. Why now? Why
27:58
are you raising this issue now? Because now he's
28:00
doing a little bit better. No, I didn't care
28:03
to be fooled. It's true. No, it's true. Hey,
28:06
look, he never had a chance. Now he's doing better.
28:09
He's got probably a 4 % or 5 % chance. Thank
28:15
you, Mr. President. I was... Well, nail it. The
28:20
fact is, there's a big overhang. There's a big
28:23
question mark on your head. And you can't do
28:26
that to the party. you really can't you can't
28:29
do that to the party you have to have certainty
28:30
even if it was a one percent chance and it's
28:33
far greater than one percent because he wasn't
28:35
born i mean you have great constitutional lawyers
28:37
to say you can't run if there was a and and you
28:40
know i'm not bringing a suit i promise but the
28:42
democrats are going to bring a lawsuit and you
28:45
can't you have to have certainty you can't have
28:48
a question i can agree with you or not but you
28:51
can't have a question over your head senator
28:55
you want to respond Well, listen, I've spent
28:57
my entire life defending the Constitution before
29:00
the U .S. Supreme Court, and I'll tell you, I'm
29:02
not going to be taking legal advice from Donald
29:04
Trump. You don't have to. Take it from Lawrence
29:05
Trump. Professor. Take it from your own professor.
29:14
The chances of any litigation proceeding and
29:18
succeeding on this are zero. Now, Mr. Trump is
29:21
very focused on Larry Tribe. Let me tell you
29:24
who Larry Tribe is. He's a left -wing judicial
29:27
activist, Harvard Law professor, who was Al Gore's
29:30
lawyer in Bush v. Gore. He's a major Hillary
29:34
Clinton supporter. And there's a reason why Hillary's
29:37
supporters are echoing Donald's attacks on me.
29:41
Because Hillary wants to face Donald Trump in
29:45
the general election. And I'll tell you what,
29:47
Donald. You very kindly, just a moment ago, offered
29:49
me the VP slot. I'll tell you what. If this all
29:55
works out, I'm happy to consider naming you as
29:58
VP. And so if you happen to be right, you could
30:00
get the top job at the end of the day. No, I
30:02
think if it doesn't... I like that. I like it.
30:09
I'd consider it. But I think I'll go back to
30:11
building buildings if it doesn't work out. Actually,
30:13
I'd love to get you to build a wall. I have a
30:15
feeling it's going to work out, actually. Neil,
30:18
I can tell you this. I was invoked in that question,
30:23
so let me just say in that answer. The real question
30:26
here, I hate to interrupt this episode of Court
30:28
TV, but the real... I think we have to get back
30:37
to what this election has to be about. This is
30:40
the greatest country in the history of mankind.
30:42
But in 2008, we elected a president that didn't
30:45
want to fix America. He wants to change America.
30:47
We elected a president that doesn't believe in
30:49
the Constitution. He undermines it. We elected
30:52
a president that's weakening America on the global
30:54
stage. We elected a president that doesn't believe
30:56
in the free enterprise system. This election
30:59
has to be about reversing all of that damage.
31:01
That's why I'm running for office. Because when
31:03
I become president of the United States, on my
31:06
first day in office, we are going to repeal every
31:08
single one of his unconstitutional executive
31:10
orders. When I'm president of the United States,
31:13
we are getting rid of Obamacare, and we are rebuilding
31:17
our military. And when I'm president, we're not
31:19
just going to have a president that gives the
31:20
State of the Union and says, America's the greatest
31:22
country in the world. When I'm president, we're
31:24
going to have a president that acts like it.
31:26
Thank you, Senator. Mr. Trump, South Carolina
31:33
Governor Nikki Haley, in her response to the
31:35
State of the Union address, within the party,
31:45
saying Republicans should resist, quote, the
31:48
siren call of the angriest voices. She confirmed
31:52
she was referring to you, among others. Was she
31:55
out of line? And how would a President Trump
31:58
unite the party? Okay. First of all, Nikki this
32:03
afternoon said I'm a friend of hers, actually
32:05
a close friend. And wherever you are sitting,
32:07
Nikki, I am a friend. We're friends. That's good.
32:10
But she did say there was anger. And I could
32:15
say, oh, I'm not angry. I'm very angry. because
32:18
our country is being run horribly. And I will
32:22
gladly accept the mantle of anger. Our military
32:26
is a disaster. Our health care is a horror show.
32:30
Obamacare, we're going to repeal it and replace
32:32
it. We have no borders. Our vets are being treated
32:36
horribly. Illegal immigration is beyond belief.
32:40
Our country is being run by incompetent people.
32:44
And yes, I am angry. And I won't be angry when
32:49
we fix it. But until we fix it, I'm very, very
32:52
angry. And I say that to Nikki. So when Nikki
32:54
said that, I wasn't offended. She said the truth.
32:57
One of the commentators, one of your colleagues
32:59
interviewed me and said, well, she said you were
33:02
angry. And I said to myself, huh, she's right.
33:04
I'm not fighting that. I didn't find it offensive
33:07
at all. I'm angry because our country is a mess.
33:16
I'm sorry, sorry, just with time constraints.
33:18
You and Governor Christie have been exchanging
33:21
some fairly nasty words of late, and I will allow
33:24
the governor to respond as well. The governor
33:25
went so far as to say you won't be able to slime
33:28
your way to the White House. He's referring to
33:30
a series of ads done by a PAC speaking on your
33:33
behalf that say, quote, one high -tax, Common
33:36
Core, liberal, energy -loving, Obamacare, Medicaid
33:39
-expanding president is enough. You think you
33:43
went too far on that, and do you want to apologize
33:45
to the government? You know, as I said already
33:48
twice in this debate, we have a very serious
33:49
problem in this country. We have a president
33:52
of the United States that is undermining this
33:54
country's security and expanding the role of
33:56
our government. That's not my question. Well,
33:57
I'm going to answer your question. This president
33:59
is undermining the constitutional basis of this
34:02
government. This president is undermining our
34:04
military. He's undermining our standing in the
34:06
world. I like Chris Christie, but we cannot afford
34:09
to have a president of the United States that
34:10
supports Common Core. We cannot afford to have
34:13
a president of the United States that supports
34:15
gun control. This president is less interested
34:20
in funding the military than he is in funding
34:23
Planned Parenthood. Chris Christie wrote a check
34:28
to Planned Parenthood. All I'm saying is our
34:30
next president has to be someone that undoes
34:32
the damage Barack Obama has done to this country.
34:35
It cannot be someone that agrees with his agenda
34:37
because the damage he has done to America is
34:39
extraordinary. Let me tell you, if we don't get
34:41
this election right, there may be no turning
34:43
back for America. We are on the verge of being
34:45
the first generation of Americans that leave
34:47
our children worse off than ourselves. And so
34:50
I just truly, with all my heart, believe. I,
34:52
like everybody on this stage, no one is a socialist.
34:55
No one here is under FBI investigation. So we
34:57
are a good group of people. Is he a liberal?
34:59
Is he a liberal? Unfortunately, Governor Christie
35:02
has endorsed many of the ideas that Barack Obama
35:05
supports, whether it's Common Core or gun control
35:07
or the appointment of Sonia Sotomayor or the
35:10
donation he made to Planned Parenthood. Our next
35:13
president and our Republican nominee cannot be
35:15
someone who supports those positions. Governor?
35:19
You know, I stood on the stage and watched Marco
35:24
and rather indignantly look at Governor Bush.
35:27
and say someone told you that because we're running
35:30
for the same office that criticizing me will
35:33
get you to that office it appears that the same
35:36
someone's been whispering in old marco's ear
35:38
too and so the indignation that you carry on
35:43
some of this stuff you have to also own then
35:45
so let's set the facts straight first of all
35:47
i didn't support sonia sotomayor secondly i never
35:50
wrote a check to planned parenthood third if
35:53
you look at my record as governor of new jersey
35:55
i have vetoed 50 caliber rifle ban I have vetoed
35:59
a reduction in in clip size I have vetoed a statewide
36:02
ID system for gun owners and I have pardoned
36:05
six six out -of -state folks who came through
36:07
our state and were arrested for owning a gun
36:09
legally in another state so they never had to
36:12
face charges and on Common Core Common Core has
36:15
been eliminated in New Jersey so listen this
36:18
is the difference between being a governor and
36:20
being a senator See, when you're a senator, what
36:22
you get to do is just talk and talk and talk.
36:25
And you talk so much that nobody can ever keep
36:27
up with what you're saying is accurate or not.
36:29
When you're a governor, you're held accountable
36:31
for everything you do. And the people of New
36:34
Jersey have seen it. And the last piece is this.
36:39
I like Marco, too. And two years ago, he called
36:43
me a conservative reformer that New Jersey needed.
36:47
That was before he was running against me. Now
36:50
that he is, he's changed his tune. I'm never
36:52
going to change my tune. I like Marco Rubio.
36:54
He's a good guy, a smart guy, and he would be
36:57
a heck of a lot better president than Hillary
36:59
Rodham Clinton would ever be. Neil, my name was
37:02
mentioned here. Neil, my name was mentioned as
37:04
well. Here's the deal. Chris is totally right.
37:09
He's been a good governor. And he's a heck of
37:12
a lot better than his predecessor that would
37:14
have bankrupted New Jersey. Everybody on this
37:16
stage is better than Hillary Clinton. And I think
37:18
the focus ought to be on making sure that we
37:20
leave this nomination process as wild and woolly
37:24
as it's going to be. This is not beanbag. These
37:27
attack ads are going to be part of life. Everybody
37:29
just needs to get used to it. Everybody's record
37:31
is going to be scrutinized. And at the end of
37:33
the day, we need to unite behind the winner so
37:36
that we can defeat Hillary Clinton, because she
37:38
is a disaster. Our country can rise up again.
37:43
But we need to have a compelling, conservative
37:45
agenda that we present to the American people
37:48
in a way that doesn't disparage people, that
37:51
unites us around our common purpose. And so everybody
37:54
needs to discount some of the things you're going
37:56
to hear in these ads and discount the back and
37:58
forth here, because every person here is better
38:00
than Hillary Clinton. Neil, I was mentioned,
38:02
too. Where? Yeah, I said everybody. Oh. And I
38:12
just want to take this opportunity to say, you
38:14
know, in a 2012 election, you know, we, and when
38:18
I say we, Republicans tore themselves apart.
38:21
You know, we have to stop this because, you know,
38:24
if we manage to damage ourselves and we lose
38:28
the next election and a progressive gets in there
38:30
and they get two or three Supreme Court picks,
38:32
this nation is over as we know it. And we've
38:35
got to look at the big picture here. Hillary
38:44
Clinton is getting some serious competition from
38:47
Senator Bernie Sanders. He's now at 41 percent
38:50
in the latest CBS New York Times poll. Vice President
38:54
Biden sang his praises, saying, Bernie is speaking
38:57
to a yearning that is deep and real, and he has
39:00
credibility on it. So what does it say about
39:04
our country that a candidate who is a self -avowed
39:07
socialist and who doesn't think a 90 percent
39:10
tax rate is too high— could be the Democratic
39:13
nominee. Well, if that's the case, we're going
39:16
to win every state if Bernie Sanders is the nominee.
39:19
That's not even an issue. But look, and I know
39:24
Bernie, and I can promise you he's not going
39:26
to be president of the United States. So here's
39:28
the situation, I think, Maria. And this is what
39:31
we have to, I've got to tell you, when wages
39:34
don't rise, and they haven't for a lot of families
39:37
for a number of years, it's very, very difficult
39:39
for them. Part of the reason why it hasn't risen
39:41
is because... Sometimes we're not giving people
39:44
the skills they need. Sometimes it's because
39:47
the Federal Reserve kept interest rates so low
39:49
that the wealthy were able to invest in strong
39:52
assets like the stock market when everybody else
39:54
was left behind. People are upset about it. I'll
39:57
tell you what else they're upset about. You're
39:58
50, you're 51 years old, and some kid walks in
40:02
and tells you you're out of work. And you don't
40:04
know where to go and where to turn. Do we have
40:06
an answer for that? We do. There are ways to
40:08
retrain the 50 and 51 -year -olds because they've
40:11
got great value. I'll tell you what else people
40:14
are concerned about. Their kids come out of college,
40:16
they have high debt, and they can't get a good
40:18
job. We've got to do a lot about the high cost
40:21
of higher education, but we've got to make sure
40:23
we're training people for jobs that exist that
40:26
are good jobs that can pay. Let me tell you that
40:29
in this country, in this country, people are
40:31
concerned about their economic future. They're
40:35
very concerned about it. And they wonder whether
40:37
somebody is getting something to keeping them
40:40
from getting it. That's not the America that
40:42
I've ever known. My father used to say, Johnny,
40:45
we don't hate the rich. We just want to be the
40:47
rich. And we just got to make sure that every
40:49
American has the tools in K through 12 and in
40:52
vocational education and higher education. And
40:55
we got to fight like crazy so people can think
40:58
the American dream still exists because it does
41:00
with rising wages, with full employment and with
41:05
everybody in America. And I mean everybody in
41:07
America. having an opportunity to realize the
41:11
American dream of having a better life than their
41:13
mother and their father. I'm president. Look,
41:16
I've done it once. I've done it once in Washington
41:18
with great jobs and lower taxes. The economy
41:21
was really booming. And now in Ohio with the
41:25
same formula, wages higher than the national
41:27
average, a growth of 385 ,000 jobs. It's not
41:31
that hard. Just know where you want to go. Stick
41:34
to your guts. Get it done, because our children
41:36
and grandchildren are counting on us to get it
41:39
done. And, folks, we will. You count on it. Dr.
41:43
Carson, one of the other candidates on this stage
41:46
has brought up Bill Clinton's past indiscretions.
41:50
Is that a legitimate topic in this election?
41:54
And what do you think of the notion that Hillary
41:57
Clinton is an enabler of sexual misconduct? Well,
42:03
there's no question that we should be able to
42:05
look at any past president, whether they're married
42:08
to somebody who's running for president or not,
42:11
in terms of their past behavior and what it means.
42:14
But here's the real issue. Is this America anymore?
42:20
Do we still have standards? Do we still have
42:23
values and principles? You look at what's going
42:26
on. You see all the divisiveness and the hatred
42:30
that goes on in our society. You know, we have
42:33
a war on virtually everything, race wars, gender
42:36
wars, income wars, religious wars, age wars.
42:40
Every war you can imagine, we have people at
42:43
each other's throats. And our strength is actually
42:46
in our unity. You know, you go to the Internet,
42:49
you start reading an article, and you go to the
42:52
comments section, you cannot go five comments
42:54
down before people are calling each other all
42:57
manner of names. Where did that spirit come from
43:00
in America? It did not come from our Judeo -Christian
43:03
roots, I can tell you that. And wherever it came
43:06
from, we need to start once again recognizing
43:14
that there is such a thing as right and wrong.
43:17
And let's not let the secular progressives drive
43:21
that out of us. The majority of people in America
43:23
actually have values and principles, and they
43:26
believe in the very things that made America
43:28
great. They've been beaten into submission. It's
43:31
time for us to stand up for what we believe in.
43:52
We will be streaming live and talking about how
43:59
we think the debate is going so far. We're back
44:03
in a moment. I'm Charles South Carolina. presidential
44:39
debate right here in North Charleston. Let's
44:42
get right back to the questions. Governor Bush,
44:45
gun rights, one of the top issues seen on Facebook,
44:48
with close to 3 million people talking about
44:51
it in the past month. Right here in Charleston,
44:54
Dylann Roof, who's been accused of killing nine
44:57
people in a nearby church, reportedly had not
45:00
passed his background check when he got his gun.
45:04
What is the harm in tightening standards for
45:07
not only who buys guns, but those who sell them.
45:10
First of all, I'd like to recognize Governor
45:13
Haley for her incredible leadership in the aftermath
45:16
of the Emanuel AME church killings. I also want
45:26
to recognize the people in that church that showed
45:29
the grace of God and the grace of forgiveness
45:32
and the mercy that they showed. I don't know
45:35
if any of us could have done what they did one
45:38
after another within 48 hours of that tragedy
45:41
taking place. Look, here's the deal. In this
45:43
particular case, the FBI made a mistake. The
45:47
law itself requires a background check, but they
45:50
didn't fulfill their part of the bargain within
45:52
the time that they were supposed to do. We don't
45:55
need to add new rules. We need to make sure the
45:57
FBI does its job, because that person should
46:00
not have gotten a gun. It would not have passed
46:03
the background check. The first impulse of Barack
46:05
Obama and Hillary Clinton is to take rights away
46:08
from law -abiding citizens. That's always what
46:12
they do, whether it's the San Bernardino terrorist
46:14
attack or if it's these tragedies that take place.
46:16
I think we ought to focus on what the bigger
46:18
issue is. It isn't law -abiding gun owners. Look,
46:22
I have an A -plus rating in the NRA, and we also
46:24
have a reduction in gun violence because in Florida,
46:27
if you commit a crime with a gun, you're going
46:29
away. You're going away for a long, long while.
46:31
And that's what we should focus on is the violence
46:34
in our communities. Target the efforts for people
46:36
that are committing crimes with guns. And if
46:39
you do that and get it right, you're going to
46:40
be much better off than creating a political
46:42
argument where there's a big divide. The other
46:46
issue is mental health. That's a serious issue
46:48
that we could work on. Republicans and Democrats
46:51
alike believe this. The president's first impulse
46:54
is to do this by executive order, power he doesn't
46:56
have. Why not go to Congress? in a bipartisan
46:59
way begin to deal with the process of mental
47:02
health issues so that people that are spiraling
47:04
out of control because of mental health challenges
47:06
don't have access to guns. Thank you, sir. Mr.
47:12
Trump, are there any circumstances that you think
47:16
we should be limiting gun sales of any kind in
47:19
America? No. I am a Second Amendment person.
47:23
If we had guns in California on the other side,
47:27
where the bullets went in the different direction,
47:29
you wouldn't have 14 or 15 people dead right
47:32
now. Even in Paris, if they had guns on the other
47:36
side going in the opposite direction, you wouldn't
47:39
have 130 people plus dead. So the answer is no.
47:42
And what Jeb said is absolutely correct. We have
47:45
a huge mental health problem. problem in this
47:48
country. We're closing hospitals. We're closing
47:50
wards. We're closing so many because the states
47:53
want to save money. We have to get back into
47:55
looking at what's causing. You know, the guns
47:58
don't pull the trigger. It's the people that
47:59
pull the trigger. And we have to find out what
48:02
is going on. We have to protect. Our Second Amendment.
48:06
And you cannot do this, and certainly what Barack
48:09
Obama was doing with the executive order. He
48:12
doesn't want to get people together, you know,
48:13
the old -fashioned way where you get Congress.
48:15
You get the Congress, you get the Senate, you
48:18
get together, you do legislation. He just writes
48:21
out an order, executive order. Not supposed to
48:23
happen that way. Thank you, sir. Senator Rubio,
48:29
you said that President Obama wants to take people's
48:31
guns away, yet under his presidency, gun sales...
48:35
have more than double. That doesn't sound like
48:37
a White House unfriendly to gun owners. That
48:40
sounds like people afraid the president's going
48:42
to take their guns away. Of course. Look, the
48:48
Second Amendment is not an option. It is not
48:50
a suggestion. It is a constitutional right of
48:53
every American to be able to protect themselves
48:55
and their families. I am convinced that if this
48:57
president could confiscate every gun in America,
48:59
he would. I am convinced that this president,
49:02
if he could get rid of the Second Amendment,
49:03
he would. I am convinced because I see how he
49:05
works with his attorney general, not to defend
49:07
the Second Amendment, but to figure out ways
49:10
to undermine it. I have seen him appoint people
49:12
to our courts, not to defend the Second Amendment,
49:14
but to figure out ways to undermine it. Here's
49:17
my second problem. None of these instances that
49:19
the president points to as the reason why he's
49:21
doing these things would have been prevented.
49:23
You know why? Because criminals don't buy their
49:25
guns from a gun show. They don't buy their guns
49:28
from a collector. And they don't buy their guns
49:30
from a gun store. They steal them. They get them
49:32
on the black market. And let me tell you, ISIS
49:34
and terrorists do not get their guns from a gun
49:37
show. His answer... You name it. If there is
49:43
an act of violence in America, his immediate
49:44
answer before he even knows the facts is gun
49:47
control. Here's a fact. We are in a war against
49:49
ISIS. They are trying to attack us here in America.
49:52
They attacked us in Philadelphia last week. They
49:54
attacked us in San Bernardino two weeks ago.
49:56
And the last line standing between them and our
49:58
families might be us and a gun. When I'm president
50:01
of the United States, we are defending the Second
50:02
Amendment, not undermining it the way Barack
50:04
Obama does. What fact are you pointing, Senator?
50:11
What fact can you point out that the president
50:13
would take away everyone's gun? You don't think
50:17
that's extreme? About every two weeks he holds
50:19
a press conference talking about how he can't
50:21
wait to restrict people's access to guns. Restrict
50:24
is very different than taking away. Well, let
50:25
me tell you this. Do you remember when he ran
50:27
for president of the United States and he was
50:29
a candidate and he went and said, these Americans
50:31
with traditional values, they are bitter people
50:34
and they cling to their guns and to their religion?
50:37
That tells you right away where he was headed
50:38
on all of this. This president, every chance
50:40
he has ever gotten, has tried to undermine the
50:43
Second Amendment. He doesn't meet. Here's the
50:48
difference. When he meets with the Attorney General
50:51
in the White House, it's not, how can we protect
50:52
the Second Amendment rights of Americans? It's,
50:54
give me options on how I can make it harder for
50:57
law -abiding people to buy guns. That will never
50:59
happen when I am president of the United States.
51:05
Governor Christie, you, too, have criticized
51:06
the president's recent executive action on gun
51:09
control, saying it's unconstitutional, another
51:11
step to bypass Congress. But hasn't your own
51:14
position on guns evolved, sir? The New Jersey
51:16
Star -Ledger reports that you've signed several
51:19
laws to regulate the possession of firearms and
51:21
that you argued back in August 2013, and I quote,
51:25
these common -sense measures will strengthen
51:27
New Jersey's already tough gun laws. So isn't
51:29
that kind of what the president wants to do now?
51:32
No, absolutely not. The president wants to do
51:35
things without working with his Congress, without
51:37
working with the legislature, without getting
51:39
the consent of the American people. And the fact
51:42
is that that's not a democracy. That's a dictatorship.
51:45
And we need to be very, very concerned about
51:47
that. See, here's the thing. I don't think the
51:50
founders put the Second Amendment as number two
51:52
by accident. I don't think they dropped all the
51:54
amendments into a hat and picked them out of
51:56
a hat. I think they made the Second Amendment
51:58
the Second Amendment because they thought it
51:59
was just that important. And fact is, in New
52:02
Jersey, what we have done is to make it easier
52:04
now to get a conceal and carry permit. We have
52:06
made it easier to do that, not harder. And the
52:09
way we've done it is properly through regulatory
52:12
action, not by signing unconstitutional executive
52:15
orders. This guy is a petulant child. That's
52:18
what he is. I mean, you know, fact is, Neil,
52:22
let's think about, let's think about, and I want
52:25
to maybe, I hope the president's watching tonight,
52:27
because here's what I'd like to tell him. Mr.
52:29
President, we're not against you, we're against
52:31
your policies. When you became president, you
52:34
had a Democratic Congress and a filibuster -proof
52:37
Democratic Senate. You had only 21 Republican
52:40
governors in this country. And now after seven
52:43
years of your policies, we have the biggest majority
52:46
we've had since the 1920s in the House, a Republican
52:48
majority in the Senate, and 31 out of 50 Republican
52:52
governors. The American people have rejected
52:54
your agenda, and now you're trying to go around
52:56
it. That's not right. It's not constitutional.
52:59
And we are going to kick your rear end out of
53:01
the way. White House come this fall. criminals.
53:20
You target the bad guys. You know, a minute ago,
53:22
Neil asked, what has President Obama done to
53:26
illustrate that he wants to go after guns? Well,
53:28
he appointed Eric Holder as attorney general.
53:30
Eric Holder said he viewed his mission as brainwashing
53:33
the American people against guns. He appointed
53:35
Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court, someone
53:38
who has been a radical against the Second Amendment
53:40
right to keep and bear arms. He launched Fast
53:42
and Furious, illegally selling guns to Mexican
53:45
drug lords that were then used to shoot law enforcement
53:48
officials. And I'll tell you what Hillary Clinton
53:51
has said. Hillary Clinton says she agrees with
53:54
the dissenters, the Supreme Court dissenters,
53:56
in the Heller case. There were four dissenters,
53:59
and they said that they believe the Second Amendment
54:02
protects no individual right to keep and bear
54:04
arms whatsoever. which means if their view prevailed
54:09
and the next president's going to get one, two,
54:11
three, maybe four Supreme Court justices, the
54:13
court will rule that not a single person in this
54:15
room has any right under the Second Amendment
54:18
and the government could confiscate your guns.
54:20
And I'll note that California's senator, Democratic
54:24
Senator Dianne Feinstein, said if she could say
54:27
to Mr. America and Mrs. America, give me your
54:30
guns, I'm rounding them up, she would. And let
54:33
me make a final point on this. Listen, in any
54:35
Republican primary, everyone is going to say
54:38
they support the Second Amendment. Unless you
54:41
are clinically insane, that's what you say in
54:46
a primary. But the voters are savvier than that.
54:49
They recognize that people's actions don't always
54:51
match their words. I've got a proven record fighting
54:54
to defend the Second Amendment. There's a reason
54:56
Gun Owners of America has endorsed me in this
54:59
race. There's a reason the NRA gave me their
55:01
Carter Knight Freedom Fund Award. And there's
55:04
a reason when Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer
55:06
came after our right to keep and bear arms that
55:09
I led the opposition along with millions of Americans.
55:12
We defeated that gun control legislation. And
55:15
I would note the other individuals on this stage
55:17
were nowhere to be found in that fight. Senator—and
55:25
switch gears. Senator Cruz, you suggested Mr.
55:29
Trump, quote, embodies New York values. Could
55:34
you explain what you mean by that? You know,
55:36
I think most people know exactly what New York
55:38
values are. I am from New York. You're from New
55:42
York, so you might not. But I promise you, in
55:45
the state of South Carolina, they do. And listen,
55:50
there are many, many wonderful, wonderful working
55:54
men and women in the state of New York. But everyone
55:57
understands that the values in New York City
56:01
are socially liberal, are pro -abortion, are
56:04
pro -gay marriage. focus around money and the
56:07
media. And I would note, indeed, the reason I
56:11
said that is I was asked, my friend Donald has
56:14
taken to at his events, playing Bruce Springsteen's
56:17
Born in the USA. And I was asked what I thought
56:20
of that, and I said, well, if he wanted to play
56:22
a song, maybe he could play New York, New York.
56:25
And, you know, the concept of New York values
56:28
is not that complicated to figure out. Not too
56:31
many years ago, Donald did a long interview with
56:35
Tim Russert. And in that interview, he explained
56:38
his views on a whole host of issues that were
56:40
very, very different from the views he's describing
56:43
now. And his explanation, he said, look, I'm
56:45
from New York. That's what we believe in New
56:48
York. Those aren't Iowa values, but this is what
56:50
we believe in New York. And so that was his explanation.
56:53
And I guess I can frame it another way. Not a
56:58
lot of conservatives come out of Manhattan. I'm
57:02
just saying. conservatives actually do come out
57:16
of Manhattan including William F Buckley and
57:19
others just so you understand and just so if
57:23
I could because he insulted a lot of people I've
57:25
had more calls on that statement that Ted made
57:28
that New York is a great place it's got great
57:31
people it's got loving people wonderful people
57:33
when the World Trade Center came down I saw something
57:38
that no place on earth could have handled more
57:42
beautifully more humanely than New York. You
57:44
had two 110 -story buildings come crashing down.
57:57
I saw them come down. Thousands of people killed.
58:00
And the cleanup started the next day, and it
58:03
was the most horrific cleanup probably in the
58:08
history of doing this and in construction. I
58:10
was down there. And I've never seen anything
58:13
like it. And the people in New York fought and
58:16
fought and fought. And we saw more death and
58:19
even the smell of death. Nobody understood it.
58:22
And it was with us for months, the smell, the
58:25
air. And we rebuilt downtown Manhattan. And everybody
58:29
in the world watched. And everybody in the world
58:32
loved New York and loved New Yorkers. And I have
58:35
to tell you, that was a very insulting statement
58:38
that Ted made. For the third time in as many
58:46
months, the Iranians have provoked us, detaining
58:49
us, as we've been discussing with these 10 Navy
58:51
sailors Tehran has sent straight into their waters.
58:54
The sails were later released, but only after
58:56
being shown on video apologizing for the incident.
58:59
This occurring only weeks after Iran... fired
59:03
multiple rockets within 1 ,500 yards of a U .S.
59:06
aircraft carrier, and then continued to test
59:09
medium -range missiles. Now, you've claimed that
59:12
such actions indicate Tehran has little to fear
59:15
from a President Obama. I wonder, sir, what would
59:19
change if they continued doing this sort of thing
59:22
under President Jeb Bush? Well, first of all,
59:24
under President Jeb Bush, we would restore the
59:27
strength of the military. Last week— Secretary
59:31
Carter announced that the Navy is going to be
59:33
cut again. It's now half the size of what it
59:35
was prior to Operation Desert Storm. The deployments
59:40
are too high for the military personnel. We don't
59:42
have procurement being done for refreshing the
59:45
equipment. The B -52 is still operational as
59:48
the long -range bomber. It was inaugurated in
59:50
the age of Harry Truman. The planes are older
59:53
than the pilots. We're gutting our military,
59:56
and so the Iranians and the Chinese and the Russians
59:59
and many other countries look at the United States
1:00:00
not as seriously as we once were. We have to
1:00:03
eliminate the sequester, rebuild our military
1:00:05
in a way that makes it clear that we're back
1:00:08
in the game. Secondly, as it relates to Iran,
1:00:11
we need to confront their ambitions across the
1:00:13
board. We should reimpose sanctions. They've
1:00:15
already violated sanctions after this agreement
1:00:17
was signed by testing medium -range missiles.
1:00:22
Thirdly, we need to move our embassy from Tel
1:00:25
Aviv to Jerusalem to send a serious signal that
1:00:27
we're back in the game with Israel and sign an
1:00:32
agreement that makes sure that the world knows
1:00:34
that they will have technological superiority.
1:00:37
We need to get back in the game as it relates
1:00:39
to our Arab nations. The rest of the world is
1:00:42
moving away from us towards other alliances because
1:00:45
we are weak. This president and John Kerry and
1:00:48
Hillary Clinton all have made it harder for the
1:00:50
next president to act, but he must act to confront
1:00:52
the ambitions of Iran. We can get back in the
1:00:55
game to restore order and security for our own
1:00:58
country. Thank you, Governor. Governor Kasich,
1:01:02
while everyone has been focusing on Iran's provocations,
1:01:06
I'm wondering what you make of what Saudi Arabia
1:01:09
has been doing and its recent moves in the region,
1:01:12
including its execution of a well -known Shiite
1:01:15
cleric and its move. to dramatically increase
1:01:17
oil production. Some say in an effort to drive
1:01:19
down oil prices and force a lot of U .S. oil
1:01:22
producers out of business. Sure enough, oil prices
1:01:26
have tumbled. One brokerage house now is predicting
1:01:28
a third or more of American oil producers and
1:01:31
those heavily invested in fracking will go bankrupt.
1:01:35
And soon, Saudi Arabia and OPEC will be back
1:01:37
in the driver's seat. U .S. energy player Harold
1:01:41
Hamm recently told me, with friends like these,
1:01:44
who needs enemies? Well, let me first of all
1:01:47
talk a little bit about my experience. I served
1:01:50
on the Defense Committee for 18 years. And by
1:01:52
the way, one of the members of that committee
1:01:54
was Senator Strom Thurmond from South Carolina.
1:01:57
Let me also tell you that after the 9 -11 attacks,
1:02:01
Secretary Rumsfeld invited me to the Pentagon
1:02:04
with a meeting of the former secretaries of defense.
1:02:07
And in that meeting, I suggested we had a problem
1:02:09
with technology. and that I wanted to take people
1:02:12
from Silicon Valley into the Pentagon to solve
1:02:15
our most significant problems. So I not only
1:02:18
had the opportunity to go through the Cold War,
1:02:20
struggles in Central America, and even after
1:02:24
9 -11 to be involved. With Saudi Arabia and oil
1:02:27
production, first of all, it's so critical for
1:02:31
us to be energy independent, and we're getting
1:02:32
there because of fracking. And we ought to explore,
1:02:35
because, see, energy independence gives us leverage
1:02:37
and flexibility. And secondly, if you want to
1:02:40
bring jobs back to the United States of America
1:02:43
and industry, low prices make the difference.
1:02:46
We're seeing it in my state, and we'll see it
1:02:47
in this country. And that's why we must make
1:02:50
sure that we continue to frack. In terms of Saudi
1:02:53
Arabia, look, my biggest problem with them is
1:02:55
they're funding radical clerics. through their
1:02:58
madrasas. That is a bad deal and an evil situation,
1:03:02
and presidents have looked the other way. And
1:03:04
I was going to tell you, whether I'm president
1:03:05
or not, we better make it clear to the Saudis
1:03:08
that we're going to support you, we're in relation
1:03:11
with you, just like we were in the first Gulf
1:03:13
War, but you've got to knock off the funding
1:03:15
and teaching of radical clerics, who are the
1:03:18
very people who try to destroy us and will turn
1:03:20
around and destroy them. So look, in foreign
1:03:24
policy, in foreign policy... It's strength, but
1:03:28
you got to be cool. You got to have a clear vision
1:03:31
of where you want to go. And I'm going to tell
1:03:33
you that I'm going to suggest to you here tonight
1:03:35
that you can't do on the job training. I've seen
1:03:39
so much of it. A Soviet Union, the coming down
1:03:42
of the wall, the issues that we saw around the
1:03:45
world in Central America, the potential spread
1:03:47
of communism and 9 -11 and the Gulf War. You
1:03:51
see what the Saudis deliver them a strong message.
1:03:54
But at the end of the day, we have to keep our
1:03:56
cool because most of the time, they're going
1:03:58
right with us, and they must be part of our coalition
1:04:01
to destroy ISIS. And I believe we can get that
1:04:04
done. Thank you. Thank you, Governor. There's
1:04:08
much more ahead, including the fight against
1:04:10
ISIS. More from North Charleston, South Carolina,
1:04:13
when we come right back. Back to the questions.
1:04:39
Candidates, the man who made fighting ISIS the
1:04:41
cornerstone of his campaign. South Carolina Senator
1:04:45
Lindsey Graham is out of the race, but he joins
1:04:47
us tonight in the audience. He says the airstrikes
1:04:55
now in their 16th month have been ineffective.
1:04:59
Dr. Carson. Wait a minute. Who in their 16th
1:05:02
month? The airstrikes. Oh, okay. Now in their
1:05:06
16th month are ineffective. Dr. Carson, do you
1:05:10
think Senator Graham is right in wanting to send
1:05:13
20 ,000 troops? ground troops to Iraq and Syria
1:05:17
to take out ISIS? Well, there's no question that
1:05:20
ISIS is a very serious problem, and I don't believe
1:05:24
that this administration recognizes how serious
1:05:26
it is. I think we need to do a lot more than
1:05:30
we're doing. We recognize that the caliphate
1:05:33
is what gives them the legitimacy. to go out
1:05:36
on a jihadist mission. So we need to take that
1:05:39
away from them. The way to take that away from
1:05:41
them is to talk to our military officials and
1:05:45
ask them, what do you need in order to accomplish
1:05:48
this goal? Our decision is then, do we give them
1:05:51
what they need? I say, yes, not only do we give
1:05:54
them what they need, but we don't tie their hands
1:05:56
behind their back so that they can go ahead and
1:05:58
get the job done. In addition to that, in addition
1:06:02
to that, we go ahead and we take the oil from
1:06:06
them, their source of revenue. You know, some
1:06:09
of these engagement rules that the administration
1:06:12
has, we're not going to bomb a tanker that's
1:06:16
coming out of there because there might be a
1:06:18
person in it. Give me a break. Just tell them
1:06:21
that you put people in there, we're going to
1:06:22
bomb them. So don't put people in there if you
1:06:24
don't want them bombed. You know, that's so simple.
1:06:27
And then we need to shut down their mechanisms
1:06:31
of funding. and attack their command and control
1:06:34
centers. Why should we let their people be sitting
1:06:37
there smoking their cigars, sitting in their
1:06:39
comfortable chairs in Raqqa? We know to go ahead
1:06:42
and shut off the supply routes and send in our
1:06:45
special ops at 2 a .m. and attack them everywhere
1:06:48
they go. They should be running all the time.
1:06:51
Then they won't have time to plan attacks against
1:06:53
us. Thank you, sir. It's also said that the U
1:07:00
.S. will find Arab support for its coalition.
1:07:03
If it removes Syrian President Bashar al -Assad,
1:07:07
and I quote, the now king of Saudi Arabia told
1:07:10
us, you can have our army. You just got to deal
1:07:14
with Assad. The emir of Qatar said, I'll pay
1:07:17
for the operation. But they are not going to
1:07:20
fight ISIS and let Damascus fall into the hands
1:07:23
of the Iranians. Assad has to go. Governor Christie,
1:07:27
how important is it to remove Assad from power,
1:07:30
and how would you do it? Amri, you look at what
1:07:32
this president and his Secretary of State, Secretary
1:07:35
of State Clinton, has done to get us in this
1:07:36
spot. I mean, think about it. This is the president
1:07:38
who said, along with his Secretary of State,
1:07:40
drew a red line in Syria, said if Assad uses
1:07:43
chemical weapons against his people, then we're
1:07:45
going to attack. He used chemical weapons. He's
1:07:48
killed now over a quarter of a million of his
1:07:49
own people. And this president has done nothing.
1:07:52
In fact, he's done worse than nothing. This president,
1:07:55
and by the way, Secretary Clinton, who called
1:07:57
Assad a reformer. She called Assad a reformer.
1:08:01
Now, the fact is what this president has done
1:08:04
is invited Russia to play an even bigger role,
1:08:06
bringing Vladimir Putin to negotiate getting
1:08:08
those chemical weapons back from Assad. Yet what
1:08:11
do we have today? We have the Russians and the
1:08:13
Iranians working together not to fight ISIS,
1:08:16
but to prop up Assad. The fact of the matter
1:08:19
is we're not going to have peace. We are not
1:08:21
going to have peace in Syria. We're not going
1:08:23
to be able to rebuild it unless we put a no -fly
1:08:25
zone there, make it safe for those folks, so
1:08:27
we don't have to be talking about Syrian refugees
1:08:28
anymore. The Syrians should stay in Syria. They
1:08:31
shouldn't be going to Europe. And here's the
1:08:32
last piece. You're not going to have peace in
1:08:35
Syria with Assad in charge. You're simply not.
1:08:39
And so Senator Graham is right about this. And
1:08:41
if we want to try to rebuild the coalitions,
1:08:43
as Governor Kasich was saying before, then what
1:08:46
we better do... is to get to the Arab countries
1:08:49
that believe that ISIS is a threat not only to
1:08:52
them, but to us and to world peace, and bring
1:08:54
them together. And believe me, Assad is not worth
1:08:57
it. And if you're going to leave this to Hillary
1:08:59
Clinton, the person who gave us this foreign
1:09:02
policy, the architect of it, and you're going
1:09:04
to give her another four years, that's why I'm
1:09:06
speaking out as strongly as I am about that.
1:09:08
Hillary Clinton cannot be president. It will
1:09:10
lead to even greater war in this world. And remember
1:09:13
this, after Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama
1:09:15
have had nearly eight years, We have fewer democracies
1:09:18
in the world than we had when they started. That
1:09:20
makes the world less peaceful, less safe. In
1:09:23
my administration, we will help to make sure
1:09:25
that we bring people together in the Middle East,
1:09:27
and we will fight ISIS and defeat them. Thank
1:09:30
you, sir. Mr. Trump, your comments about banning
1:09:36
Muslims from entering the country created a firestorm.
1:09:40
According to Facebook, it was the most talked
1:09:42
-about moment online of your entire campaign.
1:09:46
With more than 10 million people talking about
1:09:48
the issue, is there anything you've heard that
1:09:51
makes you want to rethink this position? No.
1:09:56
No. Look, we have to stop with political correctness.
1:10:05
We have to get down to creating a country that's
1:10:08
not going to have the kind of problems that we've
1:10:12
had with people flying planes into the World
1:10:15
Trade Centers, with the... with the shootings
1:10:17
in california with all the problems all over
1:10:20
the world i just left indonesia bomb bomb bomb
1:10:23
bomb we have to find out what's going on i said
1:10:27
temporarily i didn't say permanently i said temporarily
1:10:30
and i have many great muslim friends and some
1:10:33
of them i will say not all have called me and
1:10:36
said, Donald, thank you very much. You're exposing
1:10:38
an unbelievable problem, and we have to get to
1:10:42
the bottom of it. And unlike President Obama,
1:10:44
where he refuses even to use the term of what's
1:10:48
going on, he can't use the term for whatever
1:10:51
reason. And if you can't use the term, you're
1:10:53
never going to solve the problem. My Muslim friends,
1:10:56
some, said... Thank you very much. We'll get
1:11:00
to the bottom of it. But we have a serious problem,
1:11:03
and we can't be the stupid country anymore. We're
1:11:08
laughed at all over the world. Donald, I hope
1:11:13
you reconsider this, because this policy is a
1:11:16
policy that makes it impossible to build the
1:11:19
coalition necessary to take out ISIS. The Kurds
1:11:23
are our strongest allies. They're Muslim. You're
1:11:26
not going to even allow them to come? to our
1:11:28
country. The other Arab countries have a role
1:11:31
to play in this. We cannot be the world's policeman.
1:11:33
We can't do this unilaterally. We have to do
1:11:35
this in unison with the Arab world. And sending
1:11:38
that signal makes it impossible for us to be
1:11:41
serious about taking out ISIS and restoring democracy
1:11:45
in Syria. So I hope you'll reconsider. I hope
1:11:48
you'll reconsider. The better way of dealing
1:11:50
with this is recognizing that there are people,
1:11:54
you know, the Islamic terrorists inside embedded
1:11:57
in refugee populations. What we ought to do is
1:12:00
tighten up our efforts to deal with the entry
1:12:02
visa program so that a citizen from Europe, it's
1:12:05
harder if they've been traveling to Syria or
1:12:07
traveling these other places where there is Islamic
1:12:09
terrorism, make it harder, make the screening
1:12:11
take place. We don't have to have refugees come
1:12:14
to our country, but all... Muslims? Seriously?
1:12:17
What kind of signal does that send to the rest
1:12:19
of the world that the United States is a serious
1:12:21
player in creating peace and security? You said
1:12:23
that he made those comments and they represented
1:12:25
him being unhinged, yet after he made them...
1:12:28
Yeah, they are unhinged. Well, after he made
1:12:30
them, his poll numbers went up eight points in
1:12:34
South Carolina. Now, now, now, wait. Eleven points
1:12:36
to be exact. Are you saying that all those people
1:12:40
who agree with Mr. Trump... No, not at all. Absolutely
1:12:47
not. I can see why people are angry and scared
1:12:50
because this president has created a condition
1:12:52
where our national security has weakened dramatically.
1:12:55
I totally get that. But we're running for presidency
1:12:58
of the United States here. This isn't... This
1:13:01
isn't, you know, a different kind of job. You
1:13:03
have to lead. You cannot make rash statements
1:13:05
and expect the rest of the world to respond as
1:13:09
though, well, it's just politics. Every time
1:13:11
we send signals like this, we send a signal of
1:13:14
weakness, not strength. And so it was an unhinged
1:13:17
statement, which is why I'm asking him to consider
1:13:19
changing his views. I want security for this
1:13:25
country, okay? I want security. I'm tired of
1:13:29
seeing what's going on between the border where
1:13:32
the people flow over, people come in, they live,
1:13:35
they shoot. I want security for this country.
1:13:38
We have a serious problem with, as you know,
1:13:42
with radical Islam. We have a tremendous problem.
1:13:45
It's not only a problem here, it's a problem
1:13:48
all over the world. I want to find out why those
1:13:50
two young people, those two horrible young people
1:13:54
in California when they shot... The 14 people
1:13:56
killed them. People they knew. People that held
1:13:59
a wedding reception for them. I want to find
1:14:02
out. Many people saw pipe bombs and all sorts
1:14:05
of things all over their apartment. Why were
1:14:08
they vigilant? Why didn't they call? Why didn't
1:14:12
they call the police? And by the way, the police
1:14:14
are the most mistreated people in this country.
1:14:18
I will tell you that. The most mistreated people.
1:14:22
We need, wait a minute, we need... Vigilance.
1:14:26
We have to find out. Many people knew about what
1:14:29
was going on. Why didn't they turn those two
1:14:31
people in so that you wouldn't have had all the
1:14:34
death? There's something going on, and it's bad.
1:14:37
And I'm saying we have to get to the bottom of
1:14:40
it. That's all I'm saying. We need security.
1:14:43
We want to hear from all of you on this. According
1:14:45
to Pew Research, the U .S. admits more than 100
1:14:48
,000 Muslim immigrants every single year on a
1:14:51
permanent lifetime basis. I want to ask the rest
1:14:55
of you to comment on this. Do you agree that
1:14:57
we should pause Muslim immigration until we get
1:15:00
a better handle on our homeland security situation?
1:15:03
As Mr. Trump has said, beginning with you, Governor
1:15:05
Kasich. I've been for pausing on admitting the
1:15:09
Syrian refugees. And the reason why I've done
1:15:12
is I don't believe we have a good process of
1:15:15
being able to vet them. But, you know, we don't
1:15:17
want to put everybody in the same category. And,
1:15:20
you know, I'll go back to something that had
1:15:22
been mentioned just a few minutes ago. If we're
1:15:24
going to have a coalition, we're going to have
1:15:26
to have a coalition not just of people in the
1:15:29
western part of the world, our European allies,
1:15:32
but we need the Saudis, we need the Egyptians,
1:15:35
we need the Jordanians, we need the Gulf states.
1:15:38
We need Jordan. We need all of them to be part
1:15:41
of exactly what the first George Bush put together
1:15:43
in the first Gulf War. It was a coalition made
1:15:46
up of Arabs and Americans and Westerners, and
1:15:50
we're going to need it again. And if we try to
1:15:52
put everybody in the same, call everybody the
1:15:55
same thing, we can't do it. And that's just not
1:15:58
acceptable. But I think a pause on Syrian refugees
1:16:00
has been exactly right for all the governors
1:16:03
that have called for it. and also, of course,
1:16:05
for me, as the governor of Ohio. Thank you, sir.
1:16:07
We want to hear from the rest of you. Governor
1:16:09
Christie, your take. Maria, listen, I said right
1:16:13
from the beginning that we should take no Syrian
1:16:15
refugees of any kind. And the reason I said that
1:16:18
is because the FBI director told the American
1:16:21
people, told Congress, that he could not guarantee
1:16:24
he could vet them and it would be safe. That's
1:16:26
the end of the conversation. I can tell you,
1:16:28
after spending seven years as a former federal
1:16:31
prosecutor, right after 9 -11, dealing with this
1:16:35
issue. Here's the way you need to deal with it.
1:16:37
You can't just ban all Muslims. You have to ban
1:16:40
radical Islamic jihadists. You have to ban the
1:16:43
people who are trying to hurt us. And the only
1:16:45
way to figure that out is to go back to getting
1:16:48
the intelligence community the funding and the
1:16:50
tools that it needs to be able to keep America
1:16:53
safe. And this summer, we didn't do that. We
1:16:55
took it away from the NSA. It was a bad decision
1:16:58
by the president, bad by those in the Senate
1:17:00
who voted for it. And if I'm president, we'll
1:17:02
make our intelligence community strong, and we
1:17:04
won't have to keep everybody out. We're just
1:17:05
going to keep the bad folks out and make sure
1:17:07
they don't harm us. Thank you, sir. Senator Rubio,
1:17:08
where do you stand? Well, first of all, let's
1:17:10
understand why we're even having this debate
1:17:12
and why, you know, Donald's topped in some of
1:17:13
that anger that's out there about this whole
1:17:15
issue. consistently underestimated the threat
1:17:19
of ISIS. If you listen to the State of the Union
1:17:20
the other night, he described them as a bunch
1:17:23
of guys with long beards on the back of a pickup
1:17:24
truck. They are much more than that. This is
1:17:27
a group of people that enslaves women and sells
1:17:29
them, sells them as brides. This is a group of
1:17:32
people that burns people in cages, that is conducting
1:17:35
genocide against Christians and Yazidis and others
1:17:37
in the region. This is not some small -scale
1:17:39
group. They are radicalizing people here in the
1:17:42
United States. They're conducting attacks around
1:17:44
the world. So you know what needs to happen?
1:17:46
It's a very simple equation, and it's going to
1:17:47
happen when I'm president. If we do not know
1:17:50
who you are, and we do not know why you are coming,
1:17:52
when I am president, you are not getting into
1:17:54
the United States of America. Senator Cruz. You
1:18:05
know, I understand why Donald made the comments
1:18:07
he did, and I understand why Americans are feeling
1:18:10
frustrated and scared and angry when we have
1:18:12
a president who refuses to acknowledge the threat
1:18:15
we face, and even worse, who acts as an apologist
1:18:18
for radical Islamic terrorism. But I think what
1:18:21
we need is a commander -in -chief who is focused
1:18:23
like a laser on keeping this country safe and
1:18:26
on defeating radical Islamic terrorism. What
1:18:28
should we do? First, we should pass the Expatriate
1:18:31
Terrorist Act, legislation I've introduced that
1:18:34
says if an American goes and joins ISIS and wages
1:18:37
jihad against America, that you forfeit your
1:18:40
citizenship and you cannot come in on a passport.
1:18:42
And secondly, we should pass the legislation
1:18:47
that I've introduced that suspends all refugees
1:18:51
from nations that ISIS or Al -Qaeda control significant
1:18:55
territory. Just last week, we saw two Iraqi refugees
1:18:58
vetted using the same process the president says
1:19:02
will work that were arrested for being alleged
1:19:05
ISIS terrorists. If I am elected president, we
1:19:07
will not let in refugees from countries controlled
1:19:10
by ISIS or Al -Qaeda. And when it comes to ISIS,
1:19:14
We will not weaken them. We will not degrade
1:19:16
them. We will utterly and completely destroy
1:19:19
ISIS. Dr. Carson, where do you stand? Do you
1:19:22
agree with Mr. Trump? Well, first of all, I recognize
1:19:27
it is a substantial problem. But like all of
1:19:31
our problems, there isn't a single one that cannot
1:19:33
be solved with common sense if you remove the
1:19:37
ego and the politics. And clearly what we need
1:19:40
to do is get a group of experts together. including
1:19:44
people from other countries, some of our friends
1:19:46
from Israel, who've had experience screening
1:19:48
these people and come up with some new guidelines
1:19:51
for immigration and for visas for people who
1:19:55
are coming into this country. That's the thing
1:19:56
that obviously makes sense. We can do that. And
1:19:59
as far as the Assyrians are concerned, Alsaka
1:20:02
province, perfect place. They have infrastructure.
1:20:06
All we need to do is protect them. They'll be
1:20:08
in their own country. And that's what they told
1:20:10
me when I was in Jordan in November. Let's listen
1:20:13
to them, and let's not listen to our politicians.
1:20:16
So it should be clear that both of you do not
1:20:17
agree with Mr. Johnson. So are we going to ban
1:20:20
Muslims from India, from Indonesia? from countries
1:20:23
that are strong allies that we need to build
1:20:25
better relationships with? Of course not. What
1:20:27
we need to do is destroy ISIS. I laid out a plan
1:20:30
at the Citadel to do just that. And it starts
1:20:33
with creating a no -fly zone and safe zones to
1:20:35
make sure refugees are there. We need to lead
1:20:37
a force. a Sunni -led force inside of Syria.
1:20:41
We need to embed with the Iraqi military. We
1:20:43
need to arm the Kurds directly. We need to reestablish
1:20:46
the relationships with the Sunnis. And we need
1:20:47
the lawyers off the back of the war fighters.
1:20:49
That's how you solve the problem. You don't solve
1:20:52
it by big talk where you're banning all Muslims
1:20:54
and making it harder for us to build the kind
1:20:56
of coalition for us to be successful. Thank you,
1:20:58
Governor. Mr. Trump, sometimes, maybe in the
1:21:02
heat of a campaign, you say things and you have
1:21:05
to dial them back. Last week, the New York Times
1:21:07
editorial board quoted you as saying that you
1:21:09
would impose up to a 45 % tariff on Chinese goods.
1:21:13
That's wrong. They were wrong. It's the New York
1:21:15
Times. They're always wrong. They were wrong.
1:21:19
You never said it because they provided a transcript
1:21:22
of your remarks. They were asking me what to
1:21:25
do about North Korea. China... They don't like
1:21:28
to tell us, but they have total control, just
1:21:30
about, of North Korea. They can solve the problem
1:21:34
of North Korea if they wanted to. But they taunt
1:21:36
us. They say, well, we don't really have control.
1:21:38
Without China, North Korea doesn't even eat.
1:21:42
China is ripping us on trade. They're devaluing
1:21:45
their currency, and they're killing our companies.
1:21:48
thousands and thousands you look at the number
1:21:51
of companies and the number in terms of manufacturing
1:21:54
and plants that we've lost 50 000 because of
1:21:58
china so now we've lost anywhere between four
1:22:03
and seven million jobs because of china what
1:22:07
i said this We have very unfair trade with China.
1:22:11
We're going to have a trade deficit of $505 billion
1:22:15
this year with China. A lot of that is because
1:22:17
they devalue their currency. What I said to the
1:22:20
New York Times is that we have great power, economic
1:22:23
power over China. And if we wanted to use that,
1:22:26
and the amount, and where the 45 % comes in,
1:22:29
that would be the amount based on their devaluations
1:22:33
that we should get. That we should get. What
1:22:37
I'm saying is this. I'm not saying we do it.
1:22:39
But if they don't start treating us fairly and
1:22:42
stop devaluing and let their currency rise so
1:22:45
that our companies can compete and we don't lose
1:22:48
all of these millions of jobs that we're losing,
1:22:50
I would certainly start taxing goods that come
1:22:53
in from China. Who the hell has to lose $505
1:22:57
billion a year? I'm sorry, sir. You lost. But
1:23:00
I do want to understand that. It's not that complicated,
1:23:03
actually. Then I apologize. want to understand
1:23:05
if you don't want a 45 % tariff you say that
1:23:09
wasn't the figure would you be open or are you
1:23:11
open to slapping a higher tariff on Chinese goods
1:23:15
of any sort to go back at them. Okay, just so
1:23:18
you understand, I know so much about trade with
1:23:20
China. Carl Icahn today, as you know, endorsed
1:23:22
me. Many businessmen want to endorse me. I know,
1:23:24
but that's my question. Carl said, no, no, but
1:23:25
he's somebody that, these are the kind of people
1:23:27
that we should use to negotiate. Not the kind
1:23:30
of people that we have who are political hacks,
1:23:32
who don't know what they're doing, and we have
1:23:34
problems like this. These are the kind of people.
1:23:36
We should use our best and our finest. All right,
1:23:39
on that tariff, yes or no? No, here's what I'm
1:23:41
saying. China... They send their goods in. We
1:23:45
don't tax. They do whatever they want to do.
1:23:46
They do whatever they do. Okay. When we do business
1:23:49
with China, they tax us. You don't know it. They
1:23:52
tax us. I have many friends that deal with China.
1:23:55
They can't deal. Number one, they don't want
1:23:57
the product. And when they finally get the product,
1:23:59
it is taxed. And if you look at what happened
1:24:01
with Boeing, and if you look at what happened
1:24:03
with so many companies that deal. So, we don't
1:24:05
have an equal playing field. I'm saying, absolutely,
1:24:09
we don't have to continue to lose $505 billion
1:24:13
as a trade deficit for the privilege of dealing
1:24:16
with China. I'm a free trader. I believe it.
1:24:18
But we have to be smart. And we have to use smart
1:24:21
people to negotiate. I have the largest bank
1:24:24
in the world as a tenant of mine. I sell tens
1:24:26
of millions of dollars. I love China. I love
1:24:29
the Chinese people. But they laugh themselves.
1:24:32
They can't believe how stupid the American leadership
1:24:35
is. So you're open to a tariff? I'm totally open
1:24:38
to a tariff. If they don't treat us fairly, hey.
1:24:42
Their whole trade thing is tariff. You can't
1:24:44
deal in China without tariff. They do it to us.
1:24:46
We don't do it. It's not fair trade. Neil, let
1:24:51
me say one thing about this. I'm a free trader.
1:24:55
I supported NAFTA. I believe in the PTT because
1:24:58
it's important those countries in Asia are an
1:25:01
interface against China. And we do need China.
1:25:05
Donald's right about North Korea. I mean, the
1:25:07
fact is that they need to put the pressure on,
1:25:09
and frankly, we need to intercept ships coming
1:25:12
out of North Korea so they don't proliferate
1:25:13
all this dangerous material. But what he's talking
1:25:16
about, I think, has got merit. And I'm not putting
1:25:19
that tariff or whatever he's saying here, but
1:25:21
here's what I am saying. I'm liking him tonight.
1:25:23
For too long. No, for too long, what happens
1:25:26
is somebody dumps their product in our country
1:25:29
and takes our people's jobs, and then we go to
1:25:33
an international court. And it takes them like
1:25:35
a year or two to figure out whether they were
1:25:37
cheating us. And guess what? The workers out
1:25:40
of the job. So when they be found against that
1:25:42
country that's selling products in here lower
1:25:45
than the cost of what it takes to produce them.
1:25:48
then what do we tell the worker? Oh, well, you
1:25:50
know, it just didn't work out for you. I think
1:25:53
we should be for free trade, but I think fair
1:25:55
trade. And when countries violate trade agreements
1:25:58
or dump products in this country, we need to
1:26:01
stand up against those countries that do that
1:26:05
without making them into an enemy. And I want
1:26:06
to just suggest to you, how do I know this? Because
1:26:09
so many people in my family worked in steel mills,
1:26:12
and they didn't work with a white collar. They
1:26:14
worked in a blue collar. And the fact is, those
1:26:16
jobs are critical. They're hardworking members
1:26:18
of the middle class, and they need to be paid
1:26:21
attention to because they're Americans and they
1:26:23
carry the load. So let's demand open trade, but
1:26:27
fair trade in this country. That's what I think
1:26:29
we need to do. But on this point, if I may add
1:26:32
something on this point. We are all frustrated
1:26:34
with what China is doing. I think we need to
1:26:36
be very careful with tariffs, and here's why.
1:26:38
China doesn't pay the tariff. The buyer pays
1:26:40
the tariff. If you send a tie or a shirt made
1:26:43
in China into the United States and an American
1:26:45
goes to buy it at the store and there's a tariff
1:26:47
on it, it gets passed on in the price to the
1:26:49
consumer. So I think the better approach, the
1:26:51
best thing we can do to protect ourselves against
1:26:53
China economically is to make our economy stronger,
1:26:56
which means reversing course from all the damage
1:26:58
Barack Obama is doing to this economy. It begins
1:27:01
with tax reform. Let's not have the most expensive
1:27:04
business tax rate in the world. Let's allow companies
1:27:07
to immediately expense. It continues with regulatory
1:27:11
reform. Regulations in this country are out of
1:27:13
control, especially the Employment Prevention
1:27:15
Agency, the EPA, and all of the rules they continue
1:27:18
to impose on our economy and hurting us. How
1:27:20
about Obamacare, a certified job killer? It needs
1:27:23
to be repealed and replaced. And we need to bring
1:27:25
our debt under control, make our economy stronger.
1:27:28
That is the way to deal with China at the end
1:27:30
of the day. Neil, the problem with what Marco
1:27:32
is saying is that it takes too long. They're
1:27:34
sucking us dry, and it takes too long. It would
1:27:37
just—you absolutely— have to get involved with
1:27:40
China. They are taking so much of what we have
1:27:42
in terms of jobs, in terms of money. We just
1:27:46
can't do it any longer. He is right. If you put
1:27:48
a tariff on the goods, it's Americans who pay
1:27:49
it. Absolutely. You're looking at me? Yeah. Prices
1:27:53
go higher. Hey, can I tell you what? It'll never
1:27:56
happen. because they'll let their currency go
1:27:58
up. They're never going to let it happen. Japan,
1:28:00
the same thing. They are devaluing. It's so impossible.
1:28:04
You look at Caterpillar Tractor and what's happening
1:28:06
with Caterpillar and Komatsu. Komatsu is a tractor
1:28:09
company in Japan. Friends of mine are ordering
1:28:11
Komatsu tractors now because they've devalued
1:28:14
the yen to such an extent that you can't buy
1:28:17
a Caterpillar tractor. And we're letting them
1:28:19
get away with it. And we can't let them get away
1:28:22
with it. And that's why we have to use Carl and
1:28:24
we have to use our great business people and
1:28:27
not political hacks to negotiate with these guys.
1:28:30
Apart from the higher prices on consumers and
1:28:34
people who are living paycheck to paycheck, apart
1:28:36
from that, there'll be retaliation. So the soybean
1:28:40
sales from Iowa, the entire soybean production,
1:28:44
the equivalent of it, goes to China. Or how about
1:28:46
Boeing right here within a mile? Do you think
1:28:48
that the Chinese, if they had a 45 % tariff imposed
1:28:51
on all their imports, wouldn't retaliate and
1:28:53
start buying Airbus? Of course they would. This
1:28:55
would be devastating for our economy. We need
1:28:57
someone with a steady hand being president of
1:28:59
the United States. Real quick, Senator. Go ahead,
1:29:02
Senator Cruz, and then we have to get to tax
1:29:03
reform. And we don't need a weak person being
1:29:06
president of the United States, okay? Because
1:29:08
that's what we'd get if it were—I'll tell you
1:29:11
what. We don't need that. We don't need that.
1:29:14
That's that's essentially what we have now and
1:29:17
we don't need that and that's why we're in the
1:29:19
trouble that we're now and by the way Jeff you
1:29:22
mentioned Boeing take a look they order planes
1:29:24
They make Boeing build their plant in China.
1:29:27
They don't want them made here. They want those
1:29:29
planes made in China That's not the way the game
1:29:32
is supposed to be played. Thank you. Mr. Trump
1:29:34
very briefly My name was mentioned here. The
1:29:38
simple fact is that the the plane that's being
1:29:40
built here is being sold to China you couldn't
1:29:43
if you You flew in with your 767, didn't you,
1:29:45
right there, right next to the plant? No, the
1:29:47
new planes. I'm not talking about now. I'm talking
1:29:49
about in the future. They're building massive
1:29:51
plants in China because China does not want Boeing
1:29:55
building their planes here. They want it built
1:29:57
in China because China happens to be smart the
1:30:00
way they do it, not the way we do it. When you
1:30:02
head back to the airport tonight, go check and
1:30:03
see. I'll check for you. Check it out. Senator,
1:30:07
briefly. Thanks for coming back to me, Maria.
1:30:12
Both Donald and Jeb have good points, and there
1:30:15
is a middle ground. Donald is right that China
1:30:18
is running over President Obama like he is a
1:30:21
child, that President Obama is not protecting
1:30:23
American workers, and we are getting hammered.
1:30:26
You know, I sat down with the senior leadership
1:30:27
of John Deere. They discussed how hard it is
1:30:30
to sell tractors in China because all the regulatory
1:30:33
barriers, they're protectionists. But Jeb is
1:30:36
also right that if we just impose a tariff, they'll
1:30:39
put reciprocal tariffs, which will hurt. Iowa
1:30:42
farmers and South Carolina producers and 20 %
1:30:44
of the American jobs that depend on exports.
1:30:47
So the way you do it is you pass a tax plan like
1:30:51
the tax plan I've introduced, a simple flat tax,
1:30:54
10 % for individuals and a 16 % business flat
1:30:57
tax. You abolish the IRS. And here's the critical
1:31:01
point, Maria. The business flat tax enables us
1:31:06
to abolish the corporate income tax, the death
1:31:09
tax, the Obamacare taxes, the payroll taxes,
1:31:11
and they're border adjustable. So every export
1:31:14
pays no taxes whatsoever. It's tax -free, a huge
1:31:18
advantage for our farmers and ranchers and manufacturers.
1:31:21
And every import pays the 16 % business flat
1:31:25
tax. It's like a tariff, but here's the difference.
1:31:28
If we impose a tariff, China responds. The business
1:31:31
flat tax, they already impose their taxes on
1:31:34
us, so there's no reciprocal tariffs that come
1:31:36
against us. It puts us on a level, even playing
1:31:39
field, which brings jobs here at home. And as
1:31:42
president, I'm going to fight for the working
1:31:44
men and women. We've got to get to tax reform,
1:31:47
gentlemen. We've got to get to tax reform. Yeah,
1:31:49
but I want to talk about taxes. We've got to
1:31:51
get to the national debt as well. Coming up next,
1:31:53
the growing national debt, the war on crime,
1:31:55
tax reform. More from North Charleston, South
1:31:58
Carolina, when we come right back. Presidential
1:32:19
debate here in North Charleston. Right back to
1:32:21
the questions. Governor Christie, we have spoken
1:32:27
much about cutting spending, given the $19 trillion
1:32:31
debt. But according to one report, America needs
1:32:34
$3 .6 trillion in infrastructure spending by
1:32:38
2020. Here in South Carolina, 11 % of bridges
1:32:43
are considered structurally deficient. costing
1:32:46
drivers a billion dollars a year in auto repairs.
1:32:50
What is your plan to fix the ailing roads and
1:32:53
bridges across the country without breaking the
1:32:56
bank? I'm glad you asked it, Maria. Here's our
1:32:58
plan. We've all been talking about tax reform
1:33:00
tonight, and paying for infrastructure is caught
1:33:02
right up in tax reform. If you reform the corporate
1:33:05
tax system in this country, which, as I mentioned
1:33:07
before, is the highest rate in the world, and
1:33:09
we double tax, as you know, And what that's led
1:33:12
to is over $2 trillion of American companies'
1:33:15
monies that are being kept offshore because they
1:33:17
don't want to pay the second tax. And who can
1:33:19
blame them? They paid tax once overseas. They
1:33:22
don't want to pay 35 % tax on the way back. So
1:33:25
beside reforming that tax code, bringing it down
1:33:27
to 25 % and eliminating those special interest
1:33:30
loopholes that the lobbyists and the lawyers
1:33:32
and the accountants have given, bring that rate
1:33:34
down to 25%, but also a one -time repatriation.
1:33:37
Of that money, bring the money, the $2 trillion,
1:33:39
back to the United States. We'll tax it that
1:33:42
one time at 8 .75%, because 35 % of zero is zero.
1:33:46
But 8 .75 % of $2 trillion is a lot of money,
1:33:49
and I would then dedicate that money to rebuilding
1:33:52
infrastructure here in this country. It would
1:33:54
not necessitate us raising any taxes. It would
1:33:57
bring the money back into the United States to
1:33:59
help build jobs by American companies and get
1:34:02
our economy moving again and growing at a much
1:34:04
higher rate. And it would rebuild those roads
1:34:07
and bridges and tunnels that you were talking
1:34:09
about. And the last piece of this, Marie, is
1:34:12
this. You know, the fact is that this president
1:34:14
has penalized corporations in America. He's penalized—he
1:34:19
doesn't understand that what that does is hurt
1:34:21
hardworking taxpayers. You see middle class wages
1:34:24
go backwards $3 ,700 during the Obama administration.
1:34:28
That's wrong for hardworking taxpayers in this
1:34:30
country. We'd rebuild infrastructure that would
1:34:32
also create jobs in this country, and we'd work
1:34:34
with the states to do it the right way, to do
1:34:36
it more efficiently and more effectively. And
1:34:38
remember this, I'm credible on this for this
1:34:40
reason. Americans for Tax Reform says that I
1:34:42
have vetoed more tax increases than any governor
1:34:45
in American history. We don't need to raise taxes
1:34:47
to get this done. We need to make the government
1:34:49
run smarter and better and reform this corporate
1:34:51
tax system. bring that money back to the United
1:34:53
States to build jobs and rebuild our infrastructure,
1:34:56
and we need to use it also to protect our grid
1:34:59
from terrorists. All of those things are important,
1:35:01
and all those things would happen in a Christie
1:35:02
administration. Thank you, sir. Dr. Carson, it
1:35:07
is true U .S. companies have $2 trillion in cash
1:35:10
sitting overseas right now. That could be used
1:35:13
for investment and jobs in America. Also, several
1:35:17
companies right now are pursuing mergers to move
1:35:20
their corporate headquarters abroad. and take
1:35:22
advantage of much lower taxes. What will you
1:35:25
do to stop the flow of companies building cash
1:35:28
away from America and those leaving America altogether?
1:35:32
Well, I would suggest a fair tax system, and
1:35:37
that's what we have proposed. A flat tax for
1:35:41
everybody, no exemptions, no deductions, no shelters,
1:35:46
because some people have a better capability
1:35:48
of taking advantage of those things than others.
1:35:52
You know, and then the other thing we have to
1:35:54
do is stop spending so much money. You know,
1:35:57
I—my mother taught me this. You know, she only
1:36:00
had a third -grade education, but, you know,
1:36:03
she knew how to stretch a dollar. I mean, she
1:36:05
would drive a car until it wouldn't make a sound
1:36:08
and then gather up all her coins and buy a new
1:36:10
car. In fact, if my mother were secretary of
1:36:13
treasury, we would not be in a deficit situation.
1:36:15
But, you know, the fact of the matter is— You
1:36:19
know, if we fix the taxation system, make it
1:36:22
absolutely fair, and get rid of all of the incredible
1:36:24
regulations, because every regulation is a tax.
1:36:30
It's on goods and services. And it's the most
1:36:34
regressive tax that there is. You know, when
1:36:36
you go into the store and buy a box of laundry
1:36:38
detergent and the price has gone up, you know,
1:36:41
50 cents because of regulations, a poor person
1:36:43
notices that. A rich person does not. Middle
1:36:46
class may notice it when they get to the cash
1:36:47
register. And everything is costing more money.
1:36:50
And we are killing our people like this. And
1:36:54
Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton will say it's
1:36:56
those evil rich people. It's not the evil rich
1:36:58
people. It's the evil— government that is putting
1:37:01
all these regulations on us so that we can survive.
1:37:06
Maria, what you were talking about just now is
1:37:10
called corporate inversion. It's one of the biggest
1:37:12
problems our country has. Right now corporations
1:37:15
by the thousands are thinking of leaving our
1:37:19
country. With the jobs, leave them behind. They're
1:37:22
leaving because of taxes, but they're also leaving
1:37:24
because they can't get their money back in. And
1:37:26
everybody agrees, Democrats and Republicans,
1:37:28
that it should come back in, but they can't get
1:37:30
along. They can't even make a deal. Here's a
1:37:32
case they both agree. They can't make a deal.
1:37:34
We have to do something. Corporate inversion
1:37:36
is one of the biggest problems we have. So many
1:37:40
companies are going to leave our country. Which
1:37:43
is why we raise it. Senator Rubio, thank you,
1:37:45
Mr. Trump. Thank you. One of the biggest fiscal
1:37:47
challenges facing our country. is our entitlement
1:37:50
programs, particularly Social Security and Medicare.
1:37:54
What policies will you put forward to make sure
1:37:56
these programs are more financially secure? Well,
1:38:00
first let me address the tax issue because it's
1:38:01
related to the entitlement issue. And I want
1:38:03
to thank you for holding a substantive debate
1:38:05
where we can have debates about these key issues
1:38:07
on taxes. Here's the one thing I'm not going
1:38:10
to do. I'm not going to have something that Ted
1:38:12
described in his tax plan. It's called a value
1:38:14
-added tax. It is a tax you find in many companies
1:38:17
in Europe. where basically businesses now will
1:38:19
have to pay a tax both on the money they make,
1:38:21
but they also have to pay taxes on the money
1:38:23
they pay their employees. And that's why they
1:38:25
have it in Europe, because it's a way to blindfold
1:38:27
the people. That's what Ronald Reagan said. Ronald
1:38:29
Reagan opposed the VAT tax because he said it
1:38:32
was a way to blindfold the people so the true
1:38:34
cost of government was not there for them. Now,
1:38:36
you can support one now that's very low, but
1:38:39
what is to prevent a future liberal president
1:38:41
or liberal Congress from coming back and not
1:38:44
just raising the income tax, but also raising
1:38:46
that VAT tax? And that VAT tax is really bad
1:38:48
for seniors. because seniors, if they are retired,
1:38:51
are no longer earning an income from a job, and
1:38:54
therefore they don't get the income tax break,
1:38:56
but their prices are going to be higher because
1:38:58
the VAT tax is embedded in both the prices that
1:39:01
businesses are charging and in the wages they
1:39:03
pay their employees. When I am president of the
1:39:05
United States, I'm going to side with Ronald
1:39:06
Reagan on this and not Nancy Pelosi, and we are
1:39:09
not having a VAT tax. Thank you, Senator. Maria,
1:39:13
I assume I can respond to that. Yes, of course.
1:39:17
Well, Marco has been floating this attack for
1:39:19
a few weeks now. But the problem is the business
1:39:22
flat tax in my proposal is not a VAT. A VAT is
1:39:26
imposed as a sales tax when you buy a good. This
1:39:29
is a business flat tax. It is imposed on businesses.
1:39:33
And a critical piece that Marco seems to be missing
1:39:35
is that this 16 % business flat tax enables us
1:39:40
to eliminate the corporate income tax. It goes
1:39:42
away. It enables us to eliminate the death tax.
1:39:46
If you're a farmer, if you're a rancher, if you're
1:39:48
a small business owner, the death tax is gone.
1:39:50
We eliminate the payroll tax. We eliminate the
1:39:53
Obamacare taxes. And listen, there's a real difference
1:39:56
between Marco's tax plan and mine. Mine gives
1:39:59
every American a simple, flat tax of 10%. Marco's
1:40:04
top tax rate is 35%. My tax plan enables you
1:40:08
to fill out your taxes on a postcard. so we can
1:40:12
abolish the IRS. Marco leaves the IRS code in
1:40:16
with all of the complexity. We need to break
1:40:18
the Washington cartel, and the only way to do
1:40:21
it is end all the subsidies and all the mandates
1:40:24
and have a simple flat tax. And the final observation,
1:40:26
he invoked Ronald Reagan. I would note... that
1:40:30
Art Laffer, Ronald Reagan's chief economic advisor,
1:40:34
has written publicly that my simple flat tax
1:40:37
is the best tax plan of any of the individuals
1:40:40
on this stage because it produces economic growth,
1:40:42
it raises wages, and it helps everyone from the
1:40:45
very poorest to the very richest. But that's
1:40:47
not an accurate description of the plan. Because,
1:40:50
first of all, you may rename the IRS, but you're
1:40:53
not going to abolish the IRS because there has
1:40:55
to be some agency that's going to collect your
1:40:57
VAT tax. Someone's going to be collecting this
1:40:59
tax. In fact, when Ronald Reagan's Treasury looked
1:41:04
at the VAT tax, you know what they found? That
1:41:06
they were going to have to hire 20 ,000 new IRS
1:41:08
agents to collect it. The second point, it doesn't
1:41:11
eliminate the corporate tax or the payroll tax.
1:41:14
Businesses will now have to pay 16 % on the money
1:41:16
they make. They will also have to pay 16 % on
1:41:19
the money they pay their employees. So there
1:41:21
are people watching tonight in business. If you
1:41:23
are now hit on a 60 % tax on both your income
1:41:26
and on the wages you pay your employees, where
1:41:28
are you going to get that money from? You're
1:41:30
going to get it by paying your employees less
1:41:32
and charging your customers more. That is a tax.
1:41:35
The difference is you don't see it on the bill.
1:41:37
And that's why Ronald Reagan said that it was...
1:41:39
a blindfold. You blindfold the American people
1:41:41
so they cannot see the true cost of government.
1:41:44
Now, 16 % is what the rate Ted wants it at. But
1:41:47
what happens if, God forbid, the next Barack
1:41:49
Obama takes over, and the next Nancy Pelosi,
1:41:52
and the next Harry Reid, and they decide, we're
1:41:54
going to raise it to 30%, plus we're going to
1:41:56
raise the income tax to 30%. Now you've got Europe.
1:41:59
We're not doing that right. Why should individuals
1:42:02
pay 35 % instead of 10 %? I'd like to interrupt
1:42:09
this debate on the floor of the Senate to actually
1:42:13
answer the question you asked, which was on entitlements.
1:42:17
Do you remember that, everybody? This was a question
1:42:18
on entitlements. I'll answer the entitlement
1:42:21
question. And the reason—now, you already had
1:42:22
your chance. Mark, you blew it. Here's the thing.
1:42:26
I'll be more than happy to answer the entitlement
1:42:27
question. The fact is, the reason why— If you'll
1:42:29
answer the common core question. The fact is,
1:42:31
the reason why that no one wants to answer entitlements
1:42:34
up here is because it's hard. It's a hard problem.
1:42:37
And I'm the only one up on this stage who, back
1:42:39
in April, put forward a detailed entitlement
1:42:41
reform plan that will save over $1 trillion,
1:42:44
save Social Security, save Medicare, and avoid
1:42:47
this. Avoid what Hillary Rodham Clinton will
1:42:50
do to you, because what she will do is come in
1:42:52
and she will raise Social Security taxes. Bernie
1:42:55
Sanders has already said it, and she is just
1:42:57
one or two more poll drops down from even moving
1:43:00
further left than she's moved already to get
1:43:03
to the left of Bernie on this. We have seniors
1:43:06
out there who are scared to death because this
1:43:09
Congress— This one that we have right now just
1:43:11
stole $150 billion from the Social Security Retirement
1:43:15
Fund to give it to the Social Security Disability
1:43:18
Fund. A Republican Congress did that. And the
1:43:21
fact is it was wrong, and they consorted with
1:43:24
Barack Obama to steal from Social Security. We
1:43:27
need to reform Social Security. Mine's the only
1:43:29
plan that saves over a trillion dollars, and
1:43:31
that's why I'm answering your question. Thank
1:43:34
you, Governor. Thank you, Governor. Can I just
1:43:36
add one very quick thing, and I just want to
1:43:39
say, you know, last week we released our tax
1:43:42
plan, and multiple reputable journals, including
1:43:47
the Wall Street Journal, said ours is the best.
1:43:50
Just want to get that out there. Just saying.
1:43:52
Thank you, Dr. Carson. Coming up, how will the
1:43:54
candidates protect America? And another terror
1:43:58
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from South Carolina coming up. Stay with us.
1:44:33
Welcome back to the Republican presidential debate
1:44:35
right here in North Charleston, South Carolina.
1:44:38
Let's get right to the questions. Mr. Trump.
1:44:42
Your net worth is in the multi -billions of dollars
1:44:44
and have an ongoing, thriving hotel and real
1:44:47
estate business. Are you planning on putting
1:44:50
your assets in a blind trust should you become
1:44:52
president? With such vast wealth, how difficult
1:44:55
will it be for you to disentangle yourself from
1:44:58
your business and your money and prioritize America's
1:45:01
interests first? Well, it's an interesting question
1:45:05
because I'm very proud of my company. As you,
1:45:07
too, know, I built a very great company. If I
1:45:09
become president, I couldn't care less about
1:45:12
my company. It's peanuts I want to make. I want
1:45:15
to use that same up here, whatever it may be,
1:45:18
to make America rich again and to make America
1:45:22
great again. I have Ivanka and Eric and Don sitting
1:45:25
there. Run the company, kids. Have a good time.
1:45:28
I'm going to do it for America. So I would be
1:45:31
willing to do it. So you'll put your assets in
1:45:33
a blind shop? I would put it in a blind shop.
1:45:36
I don't know if it's a blind trust of Ivanka,
1:45:38
Don, and Eric Runnett, but is that a blind trust?
1:45:41
I don't know. But I would probably have my children
1:45:43
run it with my executives, and I wouldn't ever
1:45:46
be involved because I wouldn't care about anything
1:45:49
but our country. Anything. Thank you, sir. Thank
1:45:52
you. Governor Christie, going back to your U
1:45:56
.S. attorney days, you have been praised by both
1:45:59
parties as certainly a tough law and order guy.
1:46:01
So I wonder what you make of recent statistics,
1:46:04
sir. that show violent crime has been spiking,
1:46:07
sometimes by a double -digit rate, in 30 cities
1:46:09
across the country. Milwaukee's police chief
1:46:12
Ed Flynn says most local law enforcement officials
1:46:15
feel abandoned by Washington. Former NYC police
1:46:19
chief Ray Kelly says that police are being less
1:46:22
proactive because they're being overly scrutinized
1:46:25
and second -guessed, and they're afraid of being
1:46:28
sued or thrown in jail. What would you do as
1:46:31
president to address that? Well, first off, Let's
1:46:35
face it. The FBI director, Jim Comey, who's a
1:46:37
friend of mine who I worked with as U .S. attorney
1:46:39
in New Jersey, he was the U .S. attorney in Manhattan,
1:46:41
he said it. There's a chill wind blowing through
1:46:43
law enforcement in this country, and here's why.
1:46:45
The president of the United States and both his
1:46:47
attorneys general, they give the benefit of the
1:46:49
doubt to the criminal, not to the police officer.
1:46:53
That's the truth of the matter. And you see it
1:46:55
every time with this president. Every time he's
1:46:58
got a chance. going all the way back to, remember,
1:47:00
that great beer summit he had after he messed
1:47:02
up that time. This is a guy who just believes
1:47:06
that law enforcement are the bad guys. Now, I,
1:47:10
for seven years, was a U .S. attorney in New
1:47:12
Jersey. I worked hard with not only federal agents,
1:47:15
but with police officers. And here's the problem.
1:47:18
Sanctuary cities is part of the problem in this
1:47:20
country. That's where crime is happening, in
1:47:23
these cities where they don't enforce the immigration
1:47:25
law. And this president turns his back. This
1:47:28
president doesn't enforce the marijuana laws
1:47:30
in this country because he doesn't agree with
1:47:31
them. And he allows states to go ahead and do
1:47:33
whatever they want on a substance that's illegal.
1:47:35
This president allows lawlessness throughout
1:47:37
this country. Here's what I would do, Neil. I
1:47:39
would appoint an attorney general, and I would
1:47:41
have one very brief conversation with that attorney
1:47:43
general. I'd say, General. enforce the law against
1:47:47
everyone justly, fairly, and aggressively, make
1:47:50
our streets safe again, make our police officers
1:47:52
proud of what they do, but more important than
1:47:54
that, let them know how proud we are of them.
1:47:57
We do that, this country will be safe and secure
1:48:00
again, not only from criminals, but from the
1:48:02
terrorists who threaten us as well. I'm the only
1:48:04
person on this stage who's done that, and we
1:48:06
will get it done as President of the United States.
1:48:09
Thank you, Governor. Governor Kasich is someone
1:48:11
who has to deal with controversial police shootings.
1:48:20
All right. You've got to deal with controversial—
1:48:25
That's why you wore a red tie. Exactly. You've
1:48:28
got to deal with controversial shootings in your
1:48:29
own state. What do you make of Chicago's move
1:48:32
recently to sort of retrain police, maybe make
1:48:36
them not so quick to use their guns? Well, I
1:48:39
created a task force well over a year ago, and
1:48:43
the purpose was to bring law enforcement, community
1:48:45
people, clergy, and the— person that I named
1:48:49
as one of the co -chairmen is a lady by the name
1:48:51
of Nina Turner, a former state senator, a liberal
1:48:53
Democrat, actually ran against one of my friends,
1:48:56
and our head of public safety. And they sat down
1:48:59
as a group trying to make sure that we can begin
1:49:02
to heal some of these problems that we see between
1:49:05
community and police. And they came back with
1:49:07
23 recommendations. One of those is a statewide
1:49:10
use of deadly force. And it is now being put
1:49:13
into place every place across the state of Ohio.
1:49:16
Secondly, a policy on recruiting and hiring and
1:49:20
more resources for training. But let me also
1:49:24
tell you one of the issues has got to be the
1:49:27
integration of both community and police. Community
1:49:31
has to understand that that police officer wants
1:49:34
to get home at night and not not to lose their
1:49:37
life, their families waiting for them. At the
1:49:40
same time law enforcement understands there are
1:49:42
people in the community who not only think that
1:49:44
the system doesn't work for them but works against
1:49:46
them. See in Ohio we've had some controversial
1:49:49
decisions but the leaders have come forward to
1:49:53
realize that protest is fine but violence is
1:49:56
wrong and it has been a remarkable situation
1:49:59
in our state. And as President of the United
1:50:02
States, it's all about communication, folks.
1:50:05
It's all about getting people to listen to one
1:50:07
another's problems. And when you do that, you
1:50:10
will be amazed at how much progress you can make
1:50:12
and how much healing we can have. Because, folks,
1:50:15
at the end of the day, the country needs healed.
1:50:18
I've heard a lot of hot rhetoric here tonight,
1:50:20
but I've got to tell you, as somebody that actually
1:50:23
passed a budget that paid down a half a trillion
1:50:25
dollars of our national debt, you can't do it
1:50:28
alone. You've got to bring people together. You've
1:50:31
got to give people hope. And together, we can
1:50:34
solve these problems that hurt us and heal America.
1:50:37
And that is what's so critical for our neighborhoods,
1:50:40
our families, our children, and our grandchildren.
1:50:59
says your 2013 immigration bill would have increased
1:51:02
green card holders by another 10 million over
1:51:05
10 years. Why are you so interested in opening
1:51:09
up borders to foreigners when American workers
1:51:12
have a hard enough time finding work? Well, first
1:51:14
of all, this is an issue that's been debated
1:51:16
now for 30 years. And for 30 years, the issue
1:51:18
of immigration has been about someone who's in
1:51:20
this country. Maybe they're here illegally, but
1:51:22
they're looking for a job. This issue is not
1:51:24
about that anymore. First and foremost, this
1:51:27
issue has to be now more than anything else about
1:51:29
keeping America safe. And here's why. There is
1:51:32
a radical jihadist group that is manipulating
1:51:34
our immigration system, and not just green cards.
1:51:37
They're recruiting people to enter this country
1:51:39
as doctors and engineers and even fiancés. They
1:51:43
understand the vulnerabilities we have on the
1:51:45
southern border. They're looking to manipulate
1:51:47
the visa waiver countries to get people into
1:51:50
the United States. So our number one priority
1:51:52
must now become ensuring that ISIS cannot get
1:51:54
killers into the United States. So whether it's
1:51:57
green cards or any other form of entry into America,
1:52:00
when I'm president, If you do not know who you
1:52:02
are or why you are coming, you are not going
1:52:04
to get into the United States of America. The
1:52:08
issue is a dramatically different issue than
1:52:10
it was 24 months ago. 24 months ago, 36 months
1:52:14
ago, you did not have a group of radical crazies
1:52:16
named ISIS who were burning people in cages and
1:52:19
recruiting people to enter our country legally.
1:52:22
They have a sophisticated understanding of our
1:52:24
legal immigration system, and we now have an
1:52:26
obligation to ensure that they are not able to
1:52:29
use that system against us. The entire system
1:52:31
of legal immigration must now be reexamined for
1:52:34
security first and foremost with an eye on ISIS.
1:52:38
recruiting people to enter this country as engineers,
1:52:40
posing as doctors, posing as refugees. We know
1:52:43
this for a fact. They've contacted trafficking
1:52:45
networks in the Western Hemisphere to get people
1:52:48
in through the southern border, and they got
1:52:50
a killer in San Bernardino in posing as a fiancé.
1:52:53
This issue now has to be about stopping ISIS
1:52:55
entering the United States, and when I'm president,
1:52:58
we will. Radical Islamic terrorism was not invented
1:53:05
24 months ago. Twenty -four months ago, we had
1:53:07
al -Qaeda, we had Boko Haram, we had Hamas, we
1:53:09
had Hezbollah, we had Iran putting operatives
1:53:12
in South America and Central America. It's the
1:53:14
reason why I stood with Jeff Sessions and Steve
1:53:18
King and led the fight to stop the Gang of Eight
1:53:21
amnesty bill, because it was clear then, like
1:53:23
it's clear now, that border security is national
1:53:26
security. It is also the case— That that Rubio
1:53:33
Schumer amnesty bill, one of the things it did
1:53:35
is it expanded Barack Obama's power to let in
1:53:39
Syrian refugees. It enabled him, the president,
1:53:42
to certify them en masse without mandating meaningful
1:53:44
background checks. I think that's a mistake.
1:53:47
That's why I've been leading the fight to stop
1:53:49
it. And I would note the Senate just a few weeks
1:53:51
ago voted to suspend. refugees from Middle Eastern
1:53:55
countries. I voted yes to suspend that. Marco
1:53:58
voted on the other side. So you don't get to
1:53:59
say we need to secure the borders and at the
1:54:03
same time try to give Barack Obama more authority
1:54:05
to allow Middle Eastern refugees coming in when
1:54:09
the head of the FBI tells us they cannot vet
1:54:12
them to determine if they are ISIS terrorists.
1:54:14
Maria, let me clear something up here. This is
1:54:16
an interesting point when you talk about immigration.
1:54:18
Ted Cruz— You used to say you supported doubling
1:54:21
the number of green cards. Now you say that you're
1:54:23
against it. You used to support a 500 % increase
1:54:26
in the number of guest workers. Now you say that
1:54:28
you're against it. You used to support legalizing
1:54:31
people that were here illegally. Now you say
1:54:33
you're against it. You used to say that you were
1:54:36
in favor of birthright citizenship. Now you say
1:54:38
that you are against it. And by the way, it's
1:54:40
not just on immigration. You used to support
1:54:42
TPA. Now you say you're against it. I saw you
1:54:45
on the Senate floor flip your vote on crop insurance
1:54:48
because they told you it would help you in Iowa.
1:54:50
And last week, we all saw you flip your vote
1:54:52
on ethanol in Iowa for the same reason. That
1:54:55
is not consistent conservatism. That is political
1:54:57
calculation. When I'm president, I will work
1:55:00
consistently every single day to keep this country
1:55:02
safe, not call Edward Snowden, as you did, a
1:55:05
great public servant. Edward Snowden is a traitor.
1:55:08
And if I am president and we get our hands on
1:55:10
him, he is standing trial for treason. And one
1:55:13
more point, one more point, one more point. Every
1:55:16
single time that there has been a defense bill
1:55:18
in the Senate, three people team up to vote against
1:55:20
it. Bernie Sanders, Rand Paul. And Ted Cruz.
1:55:24
In fact, the only budget you have ever voted
1:55:26
for, Ted, in your entire time in the Senate is
1:55:28
a budget from Rand Paul that brags about how
1:55:31
it cuts defense. Here's the bottom line, and
1:55:33
I'll close with this. If I'm president of the
1:55:35
United States and Congress tries to cut the military,
1:55:37
I will veto that in a millisecond. I'm going
1:55:42
to get a response to that, Neil. There's no way
1:55:45
he launches 11 attacks. He had no fewer than
1:55:50
11 attacks there. I appreciate your dumping your
1:55:53
oppo research folder on the debate stage. No,
1:55:55
it's your record. But I will say at least half
1:55:58
of the things Marco said are flat -out false.
1:56:02
They're absolutely false. So let's start with
1:56:05
immigration. Let's start with immigration and
1:56:08
have a little bit of clarity. Marco stood with
1:56:11
Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama on amnesty. I
1:56:14
stood with Jeff Sessions and Steve King. Marco
1:56:17
stood today, standing on this stage. Marco supports
1:56:20
legalization and citizenship for 12 million illegals.
1:56:24
I opposed and oppose legalization and citizenship.
1:56:28
And by the way, the attack he keeps throwing
1:56:30
out on the military budget. Marco knows full
1:56:33
well I voted for his amendment to increase military
1:56:37
spending to $697 billion. What he said, and he
1:56:40
said it in the last debate, it's simply not true.
1:56:43
And as president, I will rebuild the military
1:56:46
and keep this country safe. All right, we have
1:56:47
to stop. I know you have very passionate about
1:56:49
that. Governor Bush, fears have gripped this
1:56:54
country, obviously, and you touched on it earlier,
1:56:56
since the San Bernardino attacks. Since our last
1:56:59
debate, the national conversation has changed.
1:57:01
according to Facebook data as well. Now, this
1:57:04
first graphic shows the issues that were most
1:57:07
talked about right before those attacks and now
1:57:10
after. The issues of Islam, Homeland Security,
1:57:13
and ISIS now loom very large. The FBI says Islamic
1:57:16
radicals are using social media to communicate
1:57:19
and that it needs better access to communication.
1:57:21
Now, the CEO of Apple, Governor Tim Cook, says,
1:57:24
unless served with a warrant, private communication
1:57:26
is private, period. Do you agree, or would you
1:57:30
try to convince him otherwise? I would try to
1:57:32
convince him otherwise, but this last back -and
1:57:35
-forth between two backbench senators, you know,
1:57:38
explains why we have the mess in Washington,
1:57:40
D .C. We need a president that will fix our immigration
1:57:43
laws and stick with it, not bend with the wind.
1:57:47
The simple fact is one of the ways, Maria, to
1:57:49
solve the problem you described is narrow the
1:57:51
number of people coming by family petitioning
1:57:53
to what every other country has so that we have
1:57:55
the best and the brightest that come to our country.
1:57:58
We need to control the border. We need to do
1:57:59
all of this in a comprehensive way, not just
1:58:02
going back and forth and talking about stuff.
1:58:04
But you answered this question. Oh, I'll talk
1:58:05
about that, too. But you haven't asked me a question
1:58:07
in a while, Neil, so I thought I'd get that off
1:58:09
my chest, if you don't mind. Fair enough. So
1:58:13
Tim Cook is going to keep it private. I got that
1:58:17
and the problem today is there's no confidence
1:58:20
in Washington, D .C. There needs to be more than
1:58:23
just one meeting. There needs to be complete
1:58:24
dialogue with the large technology companies.
1:58:27
They understand that there's a national security
1:58:29
risk. We ought to give them a little bit of a
1:58:31
liability relief so that if they share data amongst
1:58:34
themselves and share data with the federal government,
1:58:36
they're not fearful of a lawsuit. We need to
1:58:38
make sure that we keep the country safe. This
1:58:40
is the first priority. The cybersecurity challenges
1:58:43
that we face, this administration has failed
1:58:45
us completely. Completely. Not just the hacking
1:58:48
of OPM, but that is just shameful. Twenty -three
1:58:52
million files in the hands of the Chinese. So
1:58:54
it's not just the governments, the private sector
1:58:57
companies. It's also our own government that
1:58:59
needs to raise the level of our game. We should
1:59:02
put the NSA in charge of the civilian side of
1:59:04
this as well. That expertise needs to spread
1:59:07
all across the government, and there needs to
1:59:09
be much more cooperation with our private sector.
1:59:11
But if Tim Cook is telling you no, Mr. President—
1:59:13
You've got to keep asking. You've got to keep
1:59:15
asking, because this is a hugely important issue.
1:59:17
If you can encrypt messages, ISIS can, over these
1:59:20
platforms, and we have no ability to have a cooperative
1:59:24
relationship— So do you ask or do you order?
1:59:26
Well, if the law would change, yeah. I think
1:59:28
there has to be a recognition that if we are
1:59:32
too punitive— then you'll go to other technology
1:59:35
companies outside the United States. And what
1:59:37
we want to do is to control this. We also want
1:59:39
to dominate this from a commercial side. So there's
1:59:42
a lot of balanced interests. But a president
1:59:44
leads in this regard. That's what we need. We
1:59:47
need leadership, someone who has a backbone and
1:59:49
sticks with things rather than just talks about
1:59:51
them as though anything matters when you're talking
1:59:53
about amendments that don't even actually are
1:59:56
part of a bill that ever passed. Governor, thank
1:59:58
you. When we come right back, closing statements.
2:00:01
Stay with us. It is time for your closing statements.
2:00:24
You get 60 seconds each. Governor John Kasich,
2:00:27
we begin with you. Well, you know, in our country,
2:00:30
there are a lot of people who feel as though
2:00:32
they just don't have the power. You know, they
2:00:35
feel like if they don't have a lobbyist, if they're
2:00:38
not wealthy, that somehow they don't get the
2:00:40
play. But all of my career, you know, having
2:00:43
been raised by a mailman father whose father
2:00:47
was a coal miner who died a black lung and was
2:00:49
losing his eyesight. or a mother whose mother
2:00:52
could barely speak English. You see, all of my
2:00:55
career, I've thought about giving voice to the
2:00:57
people that I grew up with and voice to the people
2:01:00
that elected me, whether it's welfare reform
2:01:03
and getting something back for the hard -earned
2:01:05
taxpayers, whether it's engaging in Pentagon
2:01:08
reform and taking on the big contractors that
2:01:10
were charging thousands of dollars for hammers
2:01:13
and screwdrivers and ripping us off, or whether
2:01:16
it's taking on the... the special interests in
2:01:19
the nursing home industry in Ohio so that mom
2:01:22
and dad can have the ability to stay in their
2:01:23
own home rather than being forced in a nursing
2:01:26
home. Look, that's who I stand up for. That's
2:01:29
who's in my mind's eye. And if you really want
2:01:32
to believe that you can get your voice back,
2:01:34
I will tell you, as I have all my career, I will
2:01:37
continue to fight for you because you're the
2:01:40
ones that built this country and will carry it
2:01:42
into the future. Thank you. Governor Bush. Who
2:01:46
can you count on to keep us safer, stronger,
2:01:48
and freer? Results count. And as governor, I
2:01:52
pushed Florida up to the top in terms of jobs,
2:01:55
income, and small business growth. Detailed plans
2:01:58
count. And I believe that the plan I've laid
2:02:01
out to destroy ISIS before the tragedies of San
2:02:04
Bernardino and Paris are the right ones. Credibility
2:02:07
counts. There'll be people here that will talk
2:02:09
about what they're going to do. I've done it.
2:02:11
I ask for your support. to build together a safer
2:02:15
and stronger America. Maria Neal, thank you for
2:02:23
a great debate tonight. When I think about the
2:02:26
folks who are out there at home tonight watching,
2:02:28
and I think about what they had to watch this
2:02:30
week, the spectacle they had to watch at the
2:02:33
floor of the House of Representatives, with a
2:02:35
president of the United States who talked a fantasyland
2:02:39
about the way they're feeling, they know that
2:02:42
this country is not respected around the world
2:02:45
anymore. They know. that this country is pushing
2:02:47
the middle class, the hardworking taxpayers,
2:02:50
backwards. And they saw a president who doesn't
2:02:52
understand their pain and doesn't have any plan
2:02:55
for getting away from it. I love this country.
2:02:57
It's the most exceptional country the world has
2:02:59
ever known. We need someone to fight for those
2:03:01
people. We need a fighter for this country again.
2:03:04
I've lived my whole life fighting, fighting for
2:03:06
things that I believe in, fighting for justice
2:03:08
and to protect people from crime and terrorism,
2:03:11
fighting to stand up. for folks who have not
2:03:14
had enough and need an opportunity to get more,
2:03:17
and to stand up and fight against the special
2:03:19
interests. But here's the best way that we're
2:03:21
going to make America much more exceptional.
2:03:23
It is to make sure we put someone on that stage
2:03:25
in September who will fight Hillary Clinton and
2:03:28
make sure she never, ever gets in the White House
2:03:30
again. I am the man who can bring us together
2:03:32
to do that, and I ask for your vote. who are
2:03:46
discouraged and angry as they watch our freedom,
2:03:50
our security, and the American dream slipping
2:03:53
away under an unresponsive government that is
2:03:57
populated by bureaucrats and special interest
2:04:00
groups. We're not going to solve this problem
2:04:03
with traditional politics. The only way we're
2:04:06
going to solve this problem is with we, the people.
2:04:09
And I ask you to join me in truth. in honesty,
2:04:14
in integrity. BenCarson .com. We will heal, inspire,
2:04:20
and revive America for our children. You know,
2:04:27
200 years ago, America was founded on this powerful
2:04:30
principle that our rights don't come from government.
2:04:33
Our rights come from God. That's why we embrace
2:04:35
free enterprise, and it made us the most prosperous
2:04:38
people in the history of the world. That's why
2:04:40
we embraced individual liberty, and we became
2:04:43
the freest people ever. And the result was the
2:04:45
American miracle. But now, as I travel the country,
2:04:48
people say what I feel. This country is changing.
2:04:51
It feels different. We feel like we're being
2:04:53
left behind and left out. And the reason is simple.
2:04:55
Because in 2008, we elected as president someone
2:04:58
who wasn't interested in fixing America. We elected
2:05:01
someone as president who wants to change America,
2:05:03
who wants to make it more like the rest of the
2:05:06
world. And so he undermines the Constitution.
2:05:08
And he undermines free enterprise by expanding
2:05:10
government. And he betrays our allies and cuts
2:05:13
deals with our enemies and guts our military.
2:05:15
And that's why 2016 is a turning point in our
2:05:18
history. If we elect Hillary Clinton, the next
2:05:20
four years will be worse than the last eight.
2:05:22
And our children will be the first Americans
2:05:24
ever to inherit a diminished country. But if
2:05:26
we elect the right person, if you elect me, we
2:05:29
will turn this country around. We will reclaim
2:05:31
the American dream. And this nation will be stronger
2:05:34
and greater than it has ever been. 13 hours tomorrow
2:05:47
morning. A new movie will debut about the incredible
2:05:50
bravery of the men fighting for their lives in
2:05:54
Benghazi and the politicians that abandoned them.
2:05:57
I want to speak. To all our fighting men and
2:06:01
women, I want to speak to all the moms and dads
2:06:03
whose sons and daughters are fighting for this
2:06:05
country and the incredible sense of betrayal
2:06:06
when you have a commander -in -chief who will
2:06:09
not even speak the name of our enemy, radical
2:06:11
Islamic terrorism, when you have a commander
2:06:13
-in -chief who sends $150 billion to the Ayatollah
2:06:17
Khomeini who's responsible for murdering hundreds
2:06:20
of our servicemen and women. I want to speak
2:06:23
to all of those maddened by political correctness
2:06:25
where Hillary Clinton apologizes. for saying
2:06:29
all lives matter. This will end. It will end
2:06:35
on January 2017. And if I am elected president
2:06:38
to every soldier and sailor and airman and marine
2:06:41
and every police officer and firefighter and
2:06:43
first responder who risks their lives to keep
2:06:45
us safe, I will have your back. I stood yesterday
2:06:59
with 75 construction workers. They're tough.
2:07:05
They're strong. They're great people. Half of
2:07:07
them had tears pouring down their face. They
2:07:11
were watching the humiliation of our young 10
2:07:14
sailors sitting on the floor with their knees
2:07:18
in a begging position, their hands up, and Iranian
2:07:21
wise guys having guns to their heads. It was
2:07:26
a terrible sight, a terrible sight. And the only
2:07:30
reason we got them back is because we owed them,
2:07:33
with a stupid deal, $150 billion. If I'm president,
2:07:38
there won't be stupid deals anymore. We will
2:07:40
make America great again. We will win on everything
2:07:44
we do. Thank you. I guess he's upset. All right,
2:08:02
thank you for joining us. Much more to come in
2:08:04
the spin room ahead. Our special coverage of
2:08:07
the sixth Republican presidential debate continues
2:08:09
live from North Charleston right here on the
2:08:11
Fox Business Network.