Latest / The Inspired Speaker Network / What Actually Makes Someone a Great Public Speaker? | S1E002
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- 0:02Danielle Benzon: If you're tired of hiding your brilliance behind
- 0:04stage fright scripts or playing it safe, then you are in the
- 0:09perfect place. This is the inspired speaker podcast, and I
- 0:13am your host, Danielle Benson, professional rebel voice coach,
- 0:17and your guide to speaking with confidence, charisma and zero BS
- 0:23around here, we don't chase perfection, we choose
- 0:26connection. So grab a hot beverage, warm up those vocal
- 0:31cords and get ready to fall wildly in love with the sound of
- 0:35your voice. Let's get inspired.
- 0:38Welcome to episode two. I am so glad that you decided to
- 0:43continue to listen to my podcast. Thank you so much for
- 0:47being here before we get started. Let's just check in,
- 0:51check in with your body, check in with your knees and your
- 0:53pelvis. Make sure they're nice and loose. Release your
- 0:56shoulders, release any tension in your neck and your jaw, lift
- 1:01your sternum and breathe deeply into your belly. Now we're here.
- 1:10I'm not going to start every episode like that, but it's a
- 1:14good practice, so maybe you want to just saying it's a lovely way
- 1:18to just get present, because that's what I want to do with
- 1:21you today. I want to talk about presence and my philosophy,
- 1:24because you are very kind to listen to my story and who I am
- 1:28and how I got here and why I do what I do in the last episode,
- 1:32and in this episode, I'd like to talk a little bit about how I
- 1:35approach what I do and what my philosophy is, because there are
- 1:39a lot of speaking coaches out there, but, you know, we're all
- 1:42a little bit different, and I might be a little bit more I
- 1:46might be a little bit more different than most. So I want
- 1:49to make sure you know what you're getting into before we
- 1:52continue this journey together. So I'd like to tell you a little
- 1:55bit about how I work and what I believe a good speaker is, and
- 1:59how we get there and how I can help you, you know, on this
- 2:02journey with me, because the thing is, speaking, isn't
- 2:08complicated. It's actually incredibly simple. But simple
- 2:13doesn't mean easy, and we tend to like to really over
- 2:17complicate things, because it's a way of distancing ourselves.
- 2:21It's a way of not stepping into our power. So my speaking
- 2:25practice, my philosophy, is extremely simple. The way that I
- 2:29work with people is quite complex, because every human is
- 2:32different. We all manifest our fears and our insecurities and
- 2:36our defense mechanisms in different ways, in our body, in
- 2:39our psychology. We're all different. But the concept, the
- 2:44basic core concepts, are quite simple, presence, listening,
- 2:51being there for your audience, trusting them, being authentic
- 2:56and transparent so that you can connect. These are not complex
- 3:00ideas. They're basic, they're foundational, but they're not
- 3:04easy, and we want to make our script super complicated and do
- 3:09all these things because it's a way of distancing ourselves from
- 3:12the real thing we need to be doing, which is being present
- 3:16and engaging and honest with our audience. And so I'm going to
- 3:21walk you through my three steps that I take people through only
- 3:25three my three steps that I take people through to become
- 3:29successful speakers. Within those steps, there's a lot of
- 3:33complexity, but the steps themselves are quite simple. The
- 3:36first thing you need, and this is foundational, the first thing
- 3:40you need to do as a speaker is get into your body, if we are
- 3:44speaking from our head or from our throat, if we are
- 3:46disconnected, nothing else works. What do I mean by that? I
- 3:51kind of hinted at it when I was telling you about who I who I
- 3:55am, and how I got here. But essentially, what I mean is we
- 3:59need to embody our message, we need to live inside the body.
- 4:05You use your body as a mode of expression, instead of a
- 4:09transportation system for your brain. A lot of us use the body.
- 4:14We work on the body, but we don't live in the body. We don't
- 4:17inhabit it. And that's, I don't know if you can kind of grasp
- 4:21the difference, but that's the huge shift we need to make,
- 4:26instead of seeing our body as something that does for us, that
- 4:30moves our brain around, that we work on living in the body,
- 4:34allowing Our consciousness, our awareness on the inside, to
- 4:41express itself through the body. Now there are a lot of practices
- 4:45that I have to help people get there. It's not a switch. You
- 4:48can't just go, oh, now I'm in my body. There are, there are
- 4:52things that we need to do to help people to get there. It is
- 4:56eventually something that you can just step into. Uh, or just
- 5:01breathe yourself into within a second or two. But it's not
- 5:04something that necessarily comes easily if you've never done it
- 5:07before. So I have a lot of practices to ground the breath,
- 5:10to ground the body, to align the posture, to build your
- 5:13proprioception. That's your internal sense, like your right
- 5:16and left, up and down, hungry. Those are like internal senses.
- 5:20So to build that awareness, so that you're speaking from that
- 5:24place, that is the first, number one, most important thing. If
- 5:29you're not connected to yourself, you can't connect with
- 5:32your audience, because there's nothing to connect to on the
- 5:34other side. You gotta be connected on both ends for there
- 5:38to be a conversation. So if we can't connect to ourselves,
- 5:41first, if you it doesn't matter if you connect to your audience,
- 5:44because they have nothing to connect to. So that's step one,
- 5:47getting into your body. Step two is you have to speak. You gotta
- 5:53get good at speaking. A lot of speaking coaches, a lot of
- 5:57speakers, a lot of you know, industries will teach you that
- 6:03you become a good speaker by creating a good script. You
- 6:07don't become a better speaker by writing. You become a better
- 6:11speaker by speaking. There is a lot of complexity that goes on
- 6:17with the refined motor skills that it takes to speak, to
- 6:22think, and turn that those thoughts into words is quite
- 6:26complex. Language is a complex thing. We get a whole part of
- 6:29the brain dedicated not to vocabulary, not to grammar, but
- 6:34to the motor skills that it takes to speak. It's something
- 6:38we have to practice. It's a skill like riding a bicycle, you
- 6:41gotta practice it. You can't expect the first time. You know
- 6:46if you're going to do the Tour de France, you don't want to be
- 6:49you don't want that to be the first time you get on a bicycle.
- 6:54You want to be really good at riding that bicycle first. You
- 6:54want to know it inside and out. And so by becoming a good
- 6:58speaker, that's how we get that confidence level. That's how we
- 7:03build our practice. I don't want to teach someone to be really
- 7:09good at delivering one particular script. You're not a
- 7:13good speaker. Then you are then a person who is really good at
- 7:16performing one particular script. That doesn't make you a
- 7:19good speaker. You're a good speaker, if you can speak on
- 7:23anything at a moment's notice, from your heart, with limited
- 7:27preparation or no preparation. I know that sounds scary. It
- 7:32sounds scary because we've been doing it backwards. We've been
- 7:35teaching you to write it, first memorize it, and then perform
- 7:38it, or write it and then half memorize it and then perform it,
- 7:41which is almost worse,
- 7:43this idea that you need to write something, memorize it, live
- 7:50with it, take though it's so well that you take all of the
- 7:55life out of the words that you have slaved over and perfected,
- 8:00and then somehow try and inject that life into it again, so that
- 8:04when you get up on stage, finally, maybe weeks later, in
- 8:08front of these people or on camera and saying the words, it
- 8:13sounds like it's the first time you've ever thought of them,
- 8:16that's a lot of work. I'm a classically trained actor. I
- 8:19know how much work that is. It's different if you have a
- 8:24playwright who has spent years slaving over every comma, over
- 8:29every pronoun, over every word, then you get it word perfect
- 8:34because there is a reason that I say it is there instead of its
- 8:38there's always a reason in good writing, that's part of my job
- 8:42as an actor, is to figure out why that is, and that becomes
- 8:45part of my memorization process. And I do I have to get to a
- 8:49point where the words are boring because I know them inside out,
- 8:53and then I have to find them again. And that's a lot of work
- 8:58to find them again so that they feel fresh, so that I can be
- 9:01present with the audience that is so much work and also no
- 9:06offense to you, but you're not a playwright who's spending years
- 9:10holed up writing this script. Who is to say that the person
- 9:14you were three weeks ago when you were writing this has a
- 9:18better idea of what to say than the person you are when you are
- 9:21standing in front of this audience, taking in their their
- 9:26vibe, their energy. You've spoken to the you know, the
- 9:30organizer, maybe you've spoken to a few people in the audience.
- 9:32You've been mulling over this for a while. Why is the person
- 9:37in the past more qualified to make decisions about what you
- 9:40say than the person in the now who has more information? I have
- 9:45more information now than I had then. Why am I trusting that
- 9:50person instead of this person? It's a very good question. You
- 9:55are the writer when you're a speaker, and if you're not re.
- 9:59Searching something brand new, and you know that is a slightly
- 10:02different thing. But if you're speaking about something that
- 10:05you know if your content is part of your everyday life or part of
- 10:09your philosophy or part of who you are, you know it better now
- 10:14than you did three weeks ago, because you've been living with
- 10:17it, and you've been thinking about the context, and you've
- 10:20been talking to people, and you've been mulling it over, and
- 10:23hopefully you've been speaking it out loud, and you've seen it
- 10:25from all these different angles. And what if something happens
- 10:30when you are live, speaking on camera or on stage? What if you
- 10:35get an idea that you never had before, and it's a great idea
- 10:40and you want to share it. Do I share it? Do I choose to go off
- 10:45script and share the idea and then risk it being difficult to
- 10:50come back? Or do I ignore it and lose out on this amazing idea?
- 10:56If I am comfortable improvising, if improvising is my default way
- 11:00of doing things, I just incorporate that idea and keep
- 11:03going. What if someone in the back is being really annoying on
- 11:07their phone? What if a bird flies into the room? What if
- 11:10there's an alarm and you have to stop and start again? Life is
- 11:15chaos. We don't know what's going to happen. The more
- 11:18flexible you are, the more agile you are as a speaker, the easier
- 11:23it is for you to recover, the better you are as a speaker, at
- 11:27the skill of speaking, not at the skill of memorizing a
- 11:31perfect script, but of actually speaking and connecting and
- 11:36being present with people rolling with The jokes and the
- 11:39questions, slowing down or explaining something when
- 11:43everyone looks confused. Listening to your audience is
- 11:47something that you can only do in the moment. You can't do that
- 11:50beforehand. I like to use the imagery of driving a train
- 11:58versus learning how to drive a Landover. A script is a train
- 12:01track, and you can go fast, and you can go efficiently, but as
- 12:06soon as that train goes off the rails, you are screwed. Land
- 12:13Rover. You can follow the track, you can go off, you can explore
- 12:17the river, you can come back. You can Oh, there's a big hole
- 12:20in the road. I will ignore that, and I will go over here, and you
- 12:23become accustomed to going off road and coming back. So if you
- 12:27forget what to say, if you're on a script, you forget what to
- 12:30say, Oh, I'm so flustered I have to go back to my notes,
- 12:33emergency, catastrophe, if I'm used to improvising. And I
- 12:36forget what to say. I am so accustomed to recovery. I barely
- 12:42notice, and I just go, oh, I wasn't what to say. Oh, say this
- 12:45instead, and off we go. It's seamless. It might be noticeable
- 12:52by your audience, but if you're enjoying it and you're staying
- 12:56in the present, you're not in denial. We're not pretending it
- 12:59didn't happen. They come with you. And sometimes, sometimes
- 13:03that's the goal. I had a client who was so scared of speaking,
- 13:07she she really hid behind her script. And we got her to the
- 13:12point where she did a she did a presentation, and she messed up
- 13:17the like third thing she said, she pronounced someone's name
- 13:20wrong or something. I can't remember exactly what she did,
- 13:22but she was doing a presentation. She was very
- 13:24nervous, she was very tense, and she messed up. And instead of
- 13:28freaking out, she laughed, dear, let's do that again. And just
- 13:33started again. Recovered beautifully. The tension in the
- 13:38room broke because she'd started very tense, and everyone was
- 13:42like, Oh, this is going to be another awkward presentation.
- 13:44Oh, no, I have to sit through this. She made a joke, she
- 13:49messed up, she joked about it. Everyone laughed. They were with
- 13:52her. It was the best presentation she ever gave,
- 13:55because she was finally relaxed. She wasn't trying to pretend to
- 13:58be perfect. She wasn't hiding behind this facade, she was just
- 14:02being herself with her colleagues. Those little
- 14:06mistakes, those can be golden nuggets, if you know how to use
- 14:10them. Learning how to speak impromptu is a skill. I have a
- 14:15script list speaking system that I teach to people. So if you're
- 14:19curious about that, let me know. But that is number two, how to
- 14:22speak. And then the third one is where to speak. The business of
- 14:28speaking, you may not be speaking for sales. You may be
- 14:32speaking, you know, internally within your company, or, you
- 14:36know, as a leadership role, or maybe you're raising money for a
- 14:39charity. I don't know why you're speaking, but it is still a
- 14:44system. It's still a business, even if it's not kind of
- 14:48traditional, you know, I'm going out to make sales. Kind of
- 14:51business, there is a there's a system to it. There is a
- 14:54structure to it. And so learning how to do that, how to represent
- 14:59yourself. Of how to put your ideas together, how to create
- 15:02the context. That is the third piece of being a successful
- 15:06speaker. And so we only have three steps, get in your body,
- 15:11learn how to speak impromptu, just the words and your brain
- 15:16working together, and then the business of it, whatever that
- 15:20practicality, those logistics are not complicated, difficult,
- 15:26perhaps, within that there is, of course, more, there's
- 15:30storytelling, there's resonance, there's projection, looking
- 15:33after your instrument, but these are all details that we can get
- 15:38into later, once the system works, there are a lot of
- 15:44speaker trainers out there who will tell you, there's all these
- 15:48rules of how to be a good speaker, and you have to do
- 15:50this, and you have to wear a suit, and you have to move
- 15:52around the stage, and you have to do you're not allowed to say,
- 15:54I'm
- 15:54Ah, there's a lot of rules around being a good speaker. I
- 16:00have three you need to be seen. People need to see you. You need
- 16:06to be heard. People need to hear you, and you need to be
- 16:10understood. If you are speaking so quickly, or you are mumbling,
- 16:13or your tech is so bad that people can't understand you,
- 16:17then even if they can hear you, they can't understand you. So
- 16:21that third piece is really the same as being heard. But you
- 16:24know, just filling it out, adding more clarity, seen, heard
- 16:29and understood, that's it. There are best practices and there are
- 16:33guarantees, but everything else is a choice. It's up to you to
- 16:39intentionally make those choices if you just break rules because
- 16:43you're not aware of them, that can come across as sloppy or
- 16:47disrespectful if you break rules on purpose, that can be part of
- 16:53your magic, that can be part of your brand, that can speak to
- 16:55your people. There are some guarantees. I can guarantee you
- 17:00that if you are present and doing your best and there for
- 17:04your audience, they will be there for you. If you can be
- 17:08seen, heard and understood, I can guarantee you that it's when
- 17:14we just disengage from our audience. When we're we're not
- 17:17present, we're not transparent, when we're when we're in denial,
- 17:21that's when they disengage with us. That's when they judge us.
- 17:24If you are present with them and engaged with them, they will be
- 17:27there for you. Another rule or a guarantee, interested people are
- 17:34interesting if you let that interest come out. And this is
- 17:37where that number one, embody yourself becomes so important.
- 17:41If you're not embodying your interest, if you have all of
- 17:44these blocks between yourself and your interest and your
- 17:49audience, they may not see your interest and you're not they're
- 17:51not engaged with that. But if your instrument is open and
- 17:54working and you are interested, it doesn't matter. It doesn't
- 17:59matter what you're wearing. It doesn't matter how many times
- 18:01you say, it doesn't matter, they don't care. Those are just
- 18:05distractions. If you are interested, you will be
- 18:07interesting. If you find what you're talking about exciting,
- 18:12they will be excited with you. There's this contagious empathy
- 18:16that happens between a speaker and their audience when you are
- 18:20present and connected. As long as you're present and connected,
- 18:24they're with you. So don't worry too much. Don't worry about the
- 18:28packaging. Allow yourself to be in service. Get out there. If
- 18:35you don't start, if you don't begin, there's nothing to
- 18:39improve. And I can help you. I can help you identify your
- 18:43strengths and your weaknesses. In fact, click on the link that
- 18:47I provided for today's episode. It's a speaking coach in your
- 18:51pocket. So you this little mini me that you can carry around,
- 18:54not quite but it is a version of me with my best practices and
- 19:00kind of answers to some of the most common questions, the most
- 19:03common conundrums, the most common challenges that speakers
- 19:06come up against. I've made a list of all the things that
- 19:10might get in your way and what to do to help you get over them.
- 19:14So click on that speaking coach in your pocket, and I've got a
- 19:18whole bunch of suggestions and help for you, because you will
- 19:22you'll identify, oh, I do this and I don't like it. Great,
- 19:26let's improve it. Oh, I'm actually quite good at this.
- 19:29Great. Let's solidify that. Let's lean into that. You are
- 19:34unique. You don't want to be just like everybody else. The
- 19:38old fashioned way of robotic speaking is gone. The age of
- 19:45robots is over. We don't want boring robotic speakers anymore.
- 19:51The age of the messy, authentic human is here, and I am so glad
- 19:57that it is because I am a very messy. Be authentic human, and I
- 20:03bet you are too. So go out there. Be real. Don't pretend to
- 20:08be more than you are. Start small, improve in increments.
- 20:14Use my speaking coach in your pocket, and I think you'll be
- 20:18surprised by how good you actually are when you just
- 20:22follow your heart, listen to your instinct, trust your gut
- 20:27and let yourself be inspired.
- 20:29Thanks for listening to the inspired speaker podcast. If
- 20:32today's episode sparked something in you, I invite you
- 20:35to take one small, courageous step, practice, speak, share, if
- 20:41you'd like support turning that spark into a full on speaking
- 20:45mastery Blaze. Then come join me at the inspired speaker
- 20:49academy.com. Remember your voice matters. The world needs to hear
- 20:55it, because confident speakers change the world, one story, one
- 20:59stage, one moment at a time until next time. Keep shining
- 21:04your light and keep speaking your truth.