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She Did Everything Right… And Still Got Lung Cancer with Shira Boehler · The Iconic Midlife with Roxy Manning

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  You
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  were
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  so
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  healthy.
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  So
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  like,
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  how
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  does
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  your
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  brain
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  even
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  process
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  that
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  information
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  when
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  you
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  literally
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  ran
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  six
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  miles
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  and
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  then
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  you're
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  in
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  the
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  same
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  day,
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  like
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  within
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  the
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  same
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  24
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  hours,
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  you're
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  getting
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  this
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  diagnosis.
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  Like,
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  what
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  was
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  going
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  through
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  your
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  head?
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  Walked
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  into
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  a
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  lung
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  doctor
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  from
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  there
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  who
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  looked
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  me
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  in
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  the
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  eye
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  and
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  said
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  I
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  had
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  lung
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  cancer.
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  And
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  I've
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  never
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  been
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  so
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  surprised
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  in
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  my
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  life.
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  So
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  many
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  people
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  don't
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  know
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  about
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  lung
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  cancer
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  and
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  about,
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  like,
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  how
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  prevalent
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  it
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  is
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  for
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  women.
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  If
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  you
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  have
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  lungs,
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  you
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  can
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  get
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  lung
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  cancer.
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  And
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  we're
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  not
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  catching
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  lung
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  cancer
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  until
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  it's
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  so
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  spread
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  that
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  it's
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  too
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  late.
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  The
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  system
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  seems
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  so
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  broken
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  in
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  that
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  way.
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  Right?
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  I
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  still
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  to
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  this
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  day
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  sometimes
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  have
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  moments
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  where
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  I'm
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  like,
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  huh,
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  I
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  have
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  lung
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  cancer.
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  How
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  do
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  we
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  further
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  the
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  cause?
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  Like,
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  how
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  do
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  we,
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  you
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  know,
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  change,
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  help
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  to
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  make
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  change?
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  Essentially
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  one
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  skin
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  at
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  a
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  time,
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  one
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  woman
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  at
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  a
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  time.
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  Version
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  of
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  this
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  story
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  that
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  shouldn't
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  exist.
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  A
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  healthy,
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  active
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  woman,
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  a
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  mother
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  of
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  four,
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  a
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  non
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  smoker,
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  someone
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  who
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  did
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  everything
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  right.
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  And
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  still
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  she
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  had
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  lung
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  cancer.
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  Not
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  because
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  it
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  couldn't
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  be
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  found
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  earlier,
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  but
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  because
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  by
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  today's
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  standards,
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  she
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  never
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  should
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  have
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  been
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  looking
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  for
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  it
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  in
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  the
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  first
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  place.
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  That's
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  the
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  part
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  that
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  should
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  stop
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  you.
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  Because
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  what
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  if
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  the
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  biggest
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  risk
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  of
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  isn't
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  what
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  we're
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  doing
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  wrong,
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  but
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  what
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  we're
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  not
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  being
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  told
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  to
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  check?
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  Today's
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  guest,
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  Shira
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  Bowler,
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  wasn't
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  supposed
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  to
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  be
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  the
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  patient.
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  She
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  was
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  the
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  outlier,
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  the
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  exception,
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  the
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  person
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  the
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  system
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  wasn't
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  designed
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  to
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  catch.
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  And
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  yet
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  one
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  decision,
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  one
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  scan
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  changed
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  everything.
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  This
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  isn't
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  just
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  a
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  story
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  about
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  cancer.
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  It's
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  about
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  access,
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  it's
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  about
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  assumptions,
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  and
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  it's
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  about
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  the
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  uncomfortable
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  reality
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  that
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  early
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  detection
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  isn't
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  always
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  about
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  science.
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  Sometimes
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  it's
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  about
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  who
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  gets
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  the
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  chance.
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  If
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  you've
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  ever
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  been
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  told
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  you're
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  fine,
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  if
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  you've
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  ever
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  felt
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  like
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  something
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  was
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  off,
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  or
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  if
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  you've
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  assumed
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  that
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  doing
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  everything
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  right
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  guarantees
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  anything,
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  this
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  episode
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  might
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  change
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  how
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  you
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  think
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  about
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  your
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  health.
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  This
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  is
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  the
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  iconic
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  midlife,
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  unfiltered,
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  unapologetic,
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  and
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  built
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  for
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  a
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  midlife
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  that
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  doesn't
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  ask
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  for
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  permission.
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  Let's
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  get
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  into
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  it.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  iconic
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  midlife.
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  Shira,
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  how
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  are
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  you
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  today?
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  I'm
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  great
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  and
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  I'm
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  excited
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  to
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  be
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  here.
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  I
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  am
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  so
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  excited
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  here.
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  I
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  had
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  such
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  a
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  good
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  time
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  with
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  you
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  in
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  Washington,
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  D.C.
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  when
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  we
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  were
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  both
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  at
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  the
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  National
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  Conference
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  on
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  Women's
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  Health.
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  I
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  mean,
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  talk
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  about
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  moments
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  that
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  are
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  meant
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  to
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  be
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  in
• 2:38
  Besharet
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  that
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  I
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  Found
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  you.
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  We
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  latched
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  and
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  we
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  became
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  best
• 2:42
  friends,
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  fast
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  friends.
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  And
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  then
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  shared
• 2:45
  the
• 2:46
  car
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  back
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  to
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  the
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  hotel
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  and
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  then
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  realized
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  that
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  I
• 2:49
  was
• 2:49
  moderating
• 2:49
  the
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  panel
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  right
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  before
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  you
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  were
• 2:51
  moderating
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  the
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  panel.
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  And
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  we
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  got
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  to
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  share
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  our
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  story
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  and
• 2:54
  became
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  fast
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  best
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  friends
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  after
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  that.
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  It
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  was
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  like
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  the
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  perfect
• 2:57
  moment.
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  It
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  made
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  me
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  calm
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  down
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  before
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  I
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  got
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  on
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  stage,
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  just
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  knowing
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  I
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  had
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  someone
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  out
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  there
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  that
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  I
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  knew
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  that
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  would
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  be
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  looking
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  out
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  for
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  me.
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  To
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  be
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  honest,
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  we
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  were
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  laughing
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  so
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  much,
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  and
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  you
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  were
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  so
• 3:07
  real,
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  and
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  that's
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  what
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  I
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  really
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  appreciated
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  about
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  you.
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  Very
• 3:10
  authentic.
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  Like,
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  I
• 3:12
  think
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  the
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  second
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  year
• 3:13
  purse
• 3:13
  emptied
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  out
• 3:14
  on
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  floor
• 3:14
  and
• 3:14
  we
• 3:15
  picked
• 3:15
  it
• 3:15
  up
• 3:15
  together.
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  I
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  was
• 3:16
  like,
• 3:17
  we
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  get
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  each
• 3:17
  other.
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  I
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  got
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  it.
• 3:18
  We're
• 3:19
  gonna
• 3:19
  figure
• 3:19
  it
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  out
• 3:19
  together.
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  Totally.
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  Oh,
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  my
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  God,
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  I
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  totally
• 3:22
  remember.
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  It,
• 3:23
  like,
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  flew
• 3:24
  everywhere.
• 3:25
  If
• 3:25
  you're
• 3:25
  not
• 3:26
  your
• 3:26
  purse
• 3:26
  isn't
• 3:26
  falling
• 3:27
  out
• 3:27
  at
• 3:27
  a
• 3:27
  cocktail
• 3:27
  party,
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  then,
• 3:28
  like,
• 3:28
  what
• 3:28
  are
• 3:28
  you
• 3:29
  doing?
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  Yeah.
• 3:30
  Obviously
• 3:31
  not
• 3:31
  having
• 3:31
  enough
• 3:31
  fun.
• 3:32
  Totally.
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  Totally.
• 3:34
  Well,
• 3:34
  I
• 3:35
  so
• 3:35
  appreciated
• 3:36
  meeting
• 3:36
  you,
• 3:36
  and
• 3:36
  you
• 3:37
  were
• 3:37
  so
• 3:37
  open
• 3:37
  and
• 3:38
  honest
• 3:38
  with
• 3:38
  me
• 3:38
  about
• 3:39
  your
• 3:39
  story,
• 3:39
  which
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  thought
• 3:40
  was
• 3:40
  like,
• 3:41
  just
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  second
• 3:42
  you
• 3:42
  were
• 3:42
  telling
• 3:43
  me,
• 3:43
  it
• 3:43
  just,
• 3:43
  you
• 3:44
  know,
• 3:44
  like,
• 3:44
  I
• 3:44
  was
• 3:45
  so
• 3:45
  captivated
• 3:45
  because
• 3:46
  I
• 3:47
  think
• 3:47
  that
• 3:48
  so
• 3:48
  many
• 3:48
  people
• 3:49
  don't
• 3:49
  know
• 3:50
  about
• 3:50
  lung
• 3:51
  cancer
• 3:51
  and
• 3:51
  about,
• 3:52
  like,
• 3:52
  how
• 3:52
  prevalent
• 3:53
  it
• 3:53
  is
• 3:53
  for
• 3:54
  women
• 3:54
  and
• 3:55
  just
• 3:55
  all
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  these
• 3:56
  things.
• 3:56
  So
• 3:57
  let's
• 3:57
  talk
• 3:58
  about
• 3:58
  that,
• 3:58
  because
• 3:58
  I
• 3:59
  know
• 3:59
  you're
• 3:59
  so
• 3:59
  open
• 3:59
  and
• 3:59
  honest
• 4:00
  with
• 4:00
  your
• 4:00
  story.
• 4:00
  So,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  know,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  were
• 4:02
  telling
• 4:03
  me
• 4:03
  you
• 4:03
  were
• 4:03
  kind
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  setting
• 4:04
  up
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  story
• 4:04
  for
• 4:04
  me.
• 4:04
  Like,
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  know,
• 4:05
  you're
• 4:05
  this
• 4:05
  healthy,
• 4:06
  you
• 4:06
  know,
• 4:07
  like,
• 4:07
  running
• 4:08
  six
• 4:08
  miles
• 4:08
  a
• 4:09
  day,
• 4:09
  like,
• 4:10
  take
• 4:10
  care
• 4:10
  of
• 4:10
  yourself,
• 4:11
  all
• 4:11
  of
• 4:11
  these
• 4:12
  things,
• 4:13
  and
• 4:14
  you
• 4:14
  opted
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  do
• 4:15
  one
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  these
• 4:16
  sort
• 4:16
  of
• 4:16
  like,
• 4:16
  full
• 4:17
  body
• 4:17
  MRIs,
• 4:18
  and
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  got
• 4:18
  some
• 4:19
  crazy
• 4:20
  news
• 4:20
  after
• 4:20
  that,
• 4:21
  like,
• 4:21
  devastating.
• 4:23
  So
• 4:23
  just
• 4:24
  take
• 4:24
  me
• 4:24
  back
• 4:24
  to
• 4:25
  that
• 4:25
  time.
• 4:25
  Like,
• 4:26
  what
• 4:26
  was
• 4:26
  that
• 4:27
  exact
• 4:27
  moment
• 4:27
  when,
• 4:28
  you
• 4:28
  know,
• 4:28
  you're
• 4:28
  hearing
• 4:29
  this
• 4:29
  news
• 4:29
  and
• 4:29
  it
• 4:30
  was
• 4:30
  like
• 4:30
  life
• 4:31
  before
• 4:31
  and
• 4:31
  then
• 4:31
  life
• 4:32
  after.
• 4:33
  So,
• 4:33
  to
• 4:33
  be
• 4:33
  honest,
• 4:34
  what
• 4:34
  was
• 4:35
  crazy
• 4:35
  about
• 4:35
  it
• 4:35
  was
• 4:35
  that
• 4:35
  I
• 4:36
  did
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  full
• 4:36
  body
• 4:36
  MRI
• 4:37
  actually,
• 4:37
  over
• 4:37
  the
• 4:38
  summer,
• 4:39
  and
• 4:39
  I'm
• 4:39
  really
• 4:40
  claustrophobic.
• 4:40
  So
• 4:41
  remember,
• 4:41
  I
• 4:41
  don't
• 4:41
  like
• 4:42
  to
• 4:42
  do
• 4:42
  things
• 4:42
  like
• 4:42
  that.
• 4:42
  I
• 4:43
  fought
• 4:43
  my
• 4:43
  husband
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  lot.
• 4:44
  I
• 4:44
  canceled
• 4:44
  a
• 4:44
  lot
• 4:44
  of
• 4:45
  appointments.
• 4:45
  Ultimately
• 4:46
  did
• 4:46
  do
• 4:46
  it,
• 4:47
  thinking
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  would
• 4:47
  get
• 4:47
  this
• 4:48
  great
• 4:48
  baseline,
• 4:49
  because
• 4:49
  you
• 4:49
  were
• 4:49
  right.
• 4:49
  I
• 4:50
  ran
• 4:50
  six
• 4:50
  miles
• 4:50
  that
• 4:51
  morning,
• 4:52
  went
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  full
• 4:52
  body
• 4:52
  mri,
• 4:53
  and
• 4:54
  actually
• 4:54
  my
• 4:54
  results
• 4:55
  came
• 4:55
  back
• 4:55
  that
• 4:56
  there
• 4:56
  was
• 4:56
  just
• 4:56
  a
• 4:57
  minor
• 4:57
  finding
• 4:58
  and
• 4:58
  that
• 4:59
  I
• 4:59
  should
• 4:59
  correlate
• 4:59
  with
• 5:00
  symptoms
• 5:00
  and
• 5:01
  consider
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  follow
• 5:01
  up,
• 5:02
  which
• 5:02
  to
• 5:03
  me,
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  had
• 5:03
  no
• 5:03
  symptoms,
• 5:04
  I
• 5:04
  was
• 5:04
  running.
• 5:04
  So
• 5:04
  I
• 5:05
  kind
• 5:05
  of
• 5:05
  dismissed
• 5:05
  it,
• 5:05
  rolled
• 5:06
  my
• 5:06
  eyes,
• 5:06
  told
• 5:06
  my
• 5:06
  husband
• 5:07
  that
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  was
• 5:07
  perfect.
• 5:07
  On
• 5:07
  the
• 5:08
  inside
• 5:08
  and
• 5:08
  outside
• 5:08
  now,
• 5:09
  you
• 5:09
  know?
• 5:09
  So
• 5:09
  he
• 5:09
  knew
• 5:10
  and
• 5:11
  moved
• 5:11
  on.
• 5:11
  What's
• 5:12
  interesting
• 5:12
  about
• 5:12
  all
• 5:13
  this
• 5:13
  is
• 5:13
  you're
• 5:13
  right.
• 5:13
  I
• 5:14
  run.
• 5:14
  I
• 5:14
  try
• 5:14
  to
• 5:15
  eat
• 5:15
  out
• 5:15
  of
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  fridge,
• 5:15
  not
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  pantry.
• 5:16
  I
• 5:16
  have
• 5:16
  four
• 5:17
  little
• 5:17
  kids.
• 5:18
  My
• 5:18
  parents
• 5:18
  are
• 5:19
  both
• 5:19
  doctors,
• 5:19
  My
• 5:19
  brothers
• 5:20
  are
• 5:20
  both
• 5:20
  doctors.
• 5:20
  My
• 5:21
  father,
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  mean,
• 5:22
  my
• 5:22
  grandfather,
• 5:22
  you
• 5:23
  know,
• 5:23
  my
• 5:23
  aunt.
• 5:23
  My
• 5:24
  father's
• 5:24
  actually
• 5:24
  a
• 5:24
  lung
• 5:25
  doctor.
• 5:26
  So
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  showed
• 5:26
  him
• 5:27
  my
• 5:27
  findings
• 5:27
  on
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  mri,
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  he
• 5:28
  kind
• 5:29
  of
• 5:29
  rolled
• 5:29
  his
• 5:29
  eyes
• 5:29
  a
• 5:29
  little
• 5:30
  bit
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  said
• 5:31
  that
• 5:31
  we
• 5:31
  look
• 5:31
  at
• 5:32
  lungs
• 5:32
  in
• 5:32
  a
• 5:32
  CT
• 5:33
  machine,
• 5:33
  not
• 5:34
  an
• 5:34
  MRI
• 5:34
  machine,
• 5:35
  because
• 5:35
  there's
• 5:35
  a
• 5:35
  lot
• 5:35
  of
• 5:35
  air.
• 5:36
  And
• 5:36
  he
• 5:37
  thought,
• 5:37
  if
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  want,
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  can
• 5:38
  follow
• 5:38
  up.
• 5:39
  My
• 5:39
  husband
• 5:40
  and
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  are
• 5:40
  in
• 5:40
  healthcare
• 5:40
  too.
• 5:41
  And
• 5:41
  so
• 5:41
  we
• 5:41
  kind
• 5:41
  of
• 5:41
  like,
• 5:41
  do
• 5:42
  all
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  things,
• 5:43
  like,
• 5:44
  we
• 5:44
  do
• 5:44
  all
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  blood
• 5:44
  tests,
• 5:45
  like
• 5:45
  Galleri
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  Grail.
• 5:46
  We
• 5:46
  did
• 5:46
  23andMe
• 5:47
  when
• 5:47
  it
• 5:47
  came
• 5:47
  out,
• 5:47
  we
• 5:47
  had
• 5:48
  our
• 5:48
  full
• 5:48
  genome
• 5:48
  sequence.
• 5:49
  We
• 5:49
  kind
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  have
• 5:50
  bought
• 5:51
  into
• 5:51
  it
• 5:51
  all
• 5:51
  and
• 5:52
  been
• 5:52
  very
• 5:52
  proactive
• 5:52
  and
• 5:53
  made
• 5:53
  sure
• 5:53
  that
• 5:54
  our
• 5:54
  health
• 5:54
  was
• 5:54
  in
• 5:54
  line
• 5:54
  the
• 5:55
  best
• 5:55
  we
• 5:55
  could.
• 5:56
  And
• 5:56
  so
• 5:57
  when
• 5:57
  my
• 5:57
  dad
• 5:57
  walked
• 5:58
  me
• 5:58
  through
• 5:58
  CT
• 5:59
  versus
• 5:59
  an
• 5:59
  mri,
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  ultimately
• 6:00
  did
• 6:00
  follow
• 6:01
  up
• 6:01
  with
• 6:01
  that.
• 6:02
  And
• 6:02
  so
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  ran
• 6:04
  six
• 6:04
  miles,
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  went
• 6:05
  sweaty
• 6:05
  into
• 6:05
  the
• 6:06
  CT
• 6:06
  machine,
• 6:06
  which
• 6:07
  is
• 6:07
  like
• 6:07
  less
• 6:07
  than
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  minute,
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  easiest
• 6:09
  machine
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  all
• 6:09
  time.
• 6:10
  Don't
• 6:10
  even
• 6:10
  have
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  take
• 6:11
  off
• 6:11
  your
• 6:11
  clothes.
• 6:13
  And
• 6:13
  walked
• 6:14
  into
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  lung
• 6:14
  doctor
• 6:15
  from
• 6:15
  there
• 6:16
  who
• 6:16
  looked
• 6:16
  me
• 6:16
  in
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  eye
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  said
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  had
• 6:17
  lung
• 6:17
  cancer.
• 6:18
  And
• 6:19
  I've
• 6:20
  never
• 6:20
  been
• 6:20
  so
• 6:20
  surprised
• 6:21
  in
• 6:21
  my
• 6:21
  life.
• 6:21
  I
• 6:22
  mean,
• 6:22
  being
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  daughter
• 6:23
  of
• 6:23
  a
• 6:23
  lung
• 6:24
  doctor
• 6:24
  means
• 6:24
  that
• 6:25
  you've
• 6:25
  never
• 6:25
  puffed
• 6:26
  a
• 6:26
  single
• 6:26
  cigarette.
• 6:27
  Like,
• 6:27
  means
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  you
• 6:28
  avoid
• 6:28
  secondhand
• 6:29
  smoke.
• 6:29
  Like
• 6:29
  we
• 6:30
  were
• 6:30
  taught,
• 6:30
  my
• 6:30
  brothers
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  I,
• 6:32
  at
• 6:32
  all
• 6:32
  costs,
• 6:33
  get
• 6:33
  away
• 6:33
  from
• 6:33
  smoke.
• 6:35
  And
• 6:35
  I've
• 6:35
  done
• 6:35
  that,
• 6:36
  and
• 6:36
  I've
• 6:36
  run
• 6:36
  and
• 6:37
  I've
• 6:37
  tried
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  do
• 6:37
  all
• 6:37
  the
• 6:38
  right
• 6:38
  things.
• 6:38
  And
• 6:38
  so
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  was
• 6:39
  shocked.
• 6:39
  I
• 6:40
  just
• 6:40
  kept
• 6:40
  saying
• 6:40
  to
• 6:40
  the
• 6:41
  doctor,
• 6:41
  wrong
• 6:41
  person,
• 6:42
  wrong
• 6:43
  scan,
• 6:44
  you're.
• 6:45
  You've
• 6:45
  got
• 6:45
  it
• 6:45
  incorrect.
• 6:46
  Like,
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  don't
• 6:46
  smoke,
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  don't
• 6:47
  this,
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  don't
• 6:47
  that.
• 6:48
  And
• 6:49
  so
• 6:49
  basically
• 6:50
  that,
• 6:51
  like,
• 6:51
  journey
• 6:51
  for
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  next
• 6:52
  week
• 6:53
  that
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  went
• 6:53
  on,
• 6:53
  which
• 6:54
  ultimately,
• 6:54
  you
• 6:55
  know,
• 6:55
  confirmed
• 6:55
  my
• 6:56
  lung
• 6:56
  cancer.
• 6:57
  And
• 6:57
  then
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  had
• 6:57
  surgery
• 6:58
  to
• 6:58
  remove
• 6:58
  it.
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  realized
• 6:59
  that
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  was
• 7:01
  so
• 7:01
  lucky
• 7:02
  that
• 7:02
  I
• 7:02
  caught
• 7:02
  it
• 7:02
  so
• 7:03
  early,
• 7:03
  before
• 7:04
  symptoms,
• 7:05
  super
• 7:05
  random
• 7:06
  scan,
• 7:06
  but
• 7:07
  that
• 7:07
  I
• 7:07
  wasn't
• 7:07
  unique.
• 7:08
  Like
• 7:08
  you
• 7:08
  said,
• 7:08
  Roxy,
• 7:09
  that
• 7:09
  people
• 7:09
  don't
• 7:10
  realize
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  lung
• 7:11
  cancer
• 7:11
  is
• 7:11
  killing
• 7:11
  more
• 7:12
  young,
• 7:12
  healthy
• 7:12
  women
• 7:12
  than
• 7:13
  breast
• 7:13
  cancer
• 7:13
  and
• 7:13
  ovarian
• 7:14
  cancer
• 7:14
  and
• 7:15
  colon
• 7:15
  cancer
• 7:16
  combined.
• 7:17
  And
• 7:17
  it's
• 7:17
  like,
• 7:18
  crazy.
• 7:19
  So
• 7:19
  I
• 7:19
  was
• 7:19
  like,
• 7:20
  this
• 7:20
  luckiest
• 7:21
  girl
• 7:21
  in
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  world
• 7:21
  with
• 7:22
  lung
• 7:22
  cancer,
• 7:22
  which
• 7:22
  is,
• 7:22
  like,
• 7:23
  not
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  cancer
• 7:23
  to
• 7:23
  get,
• 7:24
  but
• 7:25
  not
• 7:25
  a
• 7:26
  unique
• 7:26
  diagnosis.
• 7:27
  It
• 7:27
  wasn't
• 7:27
  like
• 7:27
  this
• 7:27
  rare
• 7:28
  disease
• 7:28
  that
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  was
• 7:29
  lucky
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  catch.
• 7:30
  It
• 7:30
  was
• 7:30
  one
• 7:31
  of
• 7:31
  the.
• 7:31
  It
• 7:31
  is
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  biggest
• 7:32
  cancer
• 7:33
  killer,
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  no
• 7:34
  one
• 7:34
  talks
• 7:34
  about
• 7:34
  it.
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  think
• 7:35
  the
• 7:36
  whole
• 7:36
  idea
• 7:37
  behind
• 7:39
  it
• 7:39
  being
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  deserved
• 7:40
  disease
• 7:40
  and
• 7:40
  a
• 7:41
  lifestyle
• 7:41
  choice,
• 7:42
  like,
• 7:42
  if
• 7:42
  you
• 7:42
  smoke,
• 7:43
  then
• 7:43
  maybe
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  deserve
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  have
• 7:44
  lung
• 7:44
  cancer.
• 7:45
  Like,
• 7:45
  we
• 7:45
  have
• 7:45
  to
• 7:46
  change
• 7:46
  that
• 7:46
  narrative.
• 7:47
  Like,
• 7:47
  if
• 7:47
  you
• 7:47
  smoke,
• 7:47
  you
• 7:48
  should
• 7:48
  stop
• 7:48
  smoking,
• 7:48
  because
• 7:49
  your
• 7:49
  chances
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  getting
• 7:50
  lung
• 7:50
  cancer
• 7:50
  are
• 7:51
  greater
• 7:51
  than
• 7:51
  if
• 7:51
  you
• 7:51
  don't
• 7:52
  smoke.
• 7:52
  And
• 7:53
  if
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  smoke,
• 7:53
  you
• 7:54
  should
• 7:54
  get
• 7:54
  your
• 7:54
  lungs
• 7:54
  checked
• 7:55
  because
• 7:55
  you
• 7:55
  have
• 7:55
  that
• 7:55
  greater
• 7:56
  chance.
• 7:56
  But
• 7:56
  what
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  realize
• 7:57
  is
• 7:57
  that
• 7:58
  there's
• 7:58
  all
• 7:58
  these
• 7:58
  other
• 7:59
  factors
• 7:59
  that
• 7:59
  we
• 8:00
  don't
• 8:00
  know
• 8:00
  about,
• 8:01
  and
• 8:01
  that
• 8:01
  if
• 8:02
  you
• 8:02
  have
• 8:02
  a
• 8:02
  thyroid,
• 8:02
  you
• 8:03
  can
• 8:03
  get
• 8:03
  thyroid
• 8:03
  cancer.
• 8:04
  If
• 8:04
  you
• 8:04
  have
• 8:04
  lungs,
• 8:04
  you
• 8:04
  can
• 8:04
  get
• 8:05
  lung
• 8:05
  cancer.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:06
  we're
• 8:07
  not
• 8:07
  catching
• 8:07
  lung
• 8:08
  cancer
• 8:08
  until
• 8:08
  it's
• 8:08
  so
• 8:09
  spread
• 8:09
  that
• 8:09
  it's
• 8:10
  too
• 8:10
  late.
• 8:11
  And
• 8:11
  then
• 8:11
  it's
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  number
• 8:12
  one
• 8:12
  cancer
• 8:12
  killer.
• 8:15
  Women
• 8:15
  disproportionately.
• 8:16
  Absolutely.
• 8:17
  And,
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  know,
• 8:18
  going
• 8:19
  back
• 8:19
  to
• 8:19
  that
• 8:19
  day,
• 8:20
  you
• 8:20
  know,
• 8:20
  you
• 8:20
  mentioned
• 8:21
  running
• 8:21
  six
• 8:21
  miles,
• 8:21
  right?
• 8:22
  You
• 8:22
  did
• 8:22
  all
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  things.
• 8:23
  You
• 8:23
  were
• 8:23
  so
• 8:23
  healthy.
• 8:24
  So,
• 8:25
  like,
• 8:25
  how
• 8:25
  does
• 8:26
  your
• 8:26
  brain
• 8:26
  even
• 8:27
  process
• 8:28
  that
• 8:28
  information
• 8:29
  when
• 8:29
  you
• 8:29
  literally
• 8:30
  ran
• 8:30
  six
• 8:30
  miles?
• 8:30
  And
• 8:31
  then
• 8:31
  you're
• 8:31
  in
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  same
• 8:32
  day,
• 8:32
  like,
• 8:32
  within
• 8:32
  the
• 8:33
  same
• 8:33
  24
• 8:33
  hours,
• 8:34
  you're
• 8:34
  getting
• 8:34
  this
• 8:35
  diagnosis.
• 8:35
  Like,
• 8:36
  what
• 8:37
  was
• 8:37
  going
• 8:37
  through
• 8:37
  your
• 8:38
  head?
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  love
• 8:39
  that
• 8:39
  you're
• 8:39
  asking
• 8:40
  me
• 8:40
  this,
• 8:40
  because
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  think
• 8:41
  still
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  this
• 8:42
  day,
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  haven't
• 8:43
  processed
• 8:43
  it.
• 8:44
  So
• 8:44
  part
• 8:45
  of
• 8:45
  my
• 8:45
  journey
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  processing
• 8:47
  is
• 8:47
  I
• 8:47
  wrote
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  book.
• 8:48
  It's
• 8:48
  called
• 8:48
  One
• 8:48
  Scan.
• 8:49
  Saved
• 8:49
  My
• 8:49
  Life.
• 8:49
  And
• 8:49
  I
• 8:50
  just
• 8:50
  want
• 8:50
  to
• 8:50
  educate
• 8:51
  people
• 8:51
  so
• 8:51
  they
• 8:51
  can
• 8:51
  get
• 8:51
  scanned
• 8:52
  and
• 8:52
  they
• 8:52
  can
• 8:52
  catch
• 8:53
  their
• 8:53
  cancer
• 8:53
  early
• 8:54
  if,
• 8:54
  God
• 8:54
  forbid,
• 8:55
  they
• 8:55
  have
• 8:55
  it.
• 8:56
  But
• 8:56
  to
• 8:56
  be
• 8:56
  honest,
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  was
• 8:57
  just
• 8:57
  having
• 8:58
  a
• 8:58
  conversation
• 8:58
  with
• 8:58
  a
• 8:59
  girlfriend
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  mine.
• 9:00
  Her
• 9:00
  husband's
• 9:01
  an
• 9:01
  oncologist,
• 9:02
  not
• 9:02
  my
• 9:02
  oncologist.
• 9:03
  She
• 9:03
  lives
• 9:03
  in
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  different
• 9:04
  state.
• 9:04
  And
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  was
• 9:04
  telling
• 9:05
  her
• 9:06
  that
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  was
• 9:06
  having
• 9:06
  this
• 9:07
  moment.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  actually
• 9:08
  don't
• 9:08
  think
• 9:08
  it
• 9:08
  was
• 9:08
  me.
• 9:09
  Like,
• 9:09
  literally,
• 9:10
  like,
• 9:10
  how
• 9:10
  is
• 9:10
  that
• 9:10
  me?
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  mean,
• 9:11
  I.
• 9:11
  I
• 9:12
  know
• 9:12
  it's
• 9:12
  me.
• 9:12
  Like,
• 9:12
  I
• 9:12
  have
• 9:13
  numbing
• 9:13
  and
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  have
• 9:14
  scars,
• 9:14
  but
• 9:15
  I
• 9:15
  sometimes
• 9:15
  feel
• 9:15
  like
• 9:16
  that
• 9:16
  wasn't
• 9:17
  me.
• 9:17
  And
• 9:18
  I'm.
• 9:18
  And
• 9:18
  I
• 9:18
  can
• 9:18
  tell
• 9:19
  she's
• 9:19
  on
• 9:19
  speakerphone
• 9:20
  because
• 9:20
  she's,
• 9:20
  like,
• 9:20
  cooking.
• 9:21
  You
• 9:21
  know,
• 9:21
  the
• 9:21
  kids
• 9:21
  are
• 9:22
  home.
• 9:22
  And
• 9:22
  I
• 9:23
  hear
• 9:23
  her
• 9:23
  husband.
• 9:23
  He
• 9:23
  has
• 9:24
  a
• 9:24
  thick
• 9:24
  Australian
• 9:24
  accent,
• 9:25
  and
• 9:25
  he
• 9:25
  yells
• 9:25
  in
• 9:25
  the
• 9:26
  background,
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  saw
• 9:27
  you
• 9:27
  had
• 9:27
  lung
• 9:28
  cancer.
• 9:28
  Confirming
• 9:29
  it's
• 9:29
  correct.
• 9:30
  You
• 9:30
  know,
• 9:30
  And
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  was
• 9:31
  like,
• 9:31
  thanks.
• 9:32
  But
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  still
• 9:33
  have
• 9:33
  these
• 9:33
  moments
• 9:34
  where
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  just
• 9:34
  can't
• 9:35
  believe
• 9:36
  it.
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  mean,
• 9:37
  because
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  tried
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  do
• 9:38
  all
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  right
• 9:39
  things.
• 9:39
  And
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  sometimes
• 9:40
  think
• 9:41
  writing
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  book,
• 9:43
  talking
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  lot
• 9:43
  about
• 9:44
  it,
• 9:44
  has
• 9:44
  helped
• 9:44
  Me.
• 9:45
  But
• 9:46
  I
• 9:46
  don't
• 9:46
  know,
• 9:46
  I
• 9:47
  still
• 9:47
  to
• 9:47
  this
• 9:47
  day
• 9:47
  sometimes
• 9:48
  have
• 9:48
  moments
• 9:48
  where
• 9:48
  I'm
• 9:49
  like,
• 9:49
  huh,
• 9:49
  I
• 9:50
  have
• 9:50
  lung
• 9:50
  cancer.
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  ran
• 9:51
  this
• 9:51
  morning.
• 9:51
  I
• 9:52
  did
• 9:52
  my
• 9:52
  six
• 9:52
  mile
• 9:52
  loop
• 9:53
  this
• 9:53
  morning
• 9:53
  and
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  felt
• 9:54
  fine
• 9:54
  doing
• 9:54
  it.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:55
  then
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  realized,
• 9:56
  like,
• 9:57
  wow,
• 9:57
  when
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  get
• 9:57
  back
• 9:57
  in
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  minivan
• 9:58
  to
• 9:58
  drive
• 9:59
  out
• 9:59
  of
• 9:59
  the
• 10:00
  park
• 10:00
  that
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  do
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  loop,
• 10:01
  I'm
• 10:01
  like,
• 10:01
  wow,
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  had
• 10:02
  lung
• 10:02
  cancer
• 10:03
  five
• 10:04
  months
• 10:04
  ago.
• 10:04
  It's
• 10:04
  crazy.
• 10:05
  Yeah.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:06
  it's
• 10:06
  amazing
• 10:06
  that
• 10:06
  you're
• 10:07
  back,
• 10:07
  you
• 10:07
  know,
• 10:07
  doing
• 10:07
  all
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  things
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  did
• 10:08
  before
• 10:09
  with,
• 10:09
  like,
• 10:09
  running
• 10:10
  and,
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  know,
• 10:10
  being
• 10:11
  able
• 10:11
  to
• 10:11
  enjoy
• 10:11
  life,
• 10:12
  which
• 10:12
  is
• 10:13
  definitely
• 10:13
  what
• 10:13
  you
• 10:14
  want.
• 10:15
  Was
• 10:15
  there
• 10:15
  ever
• 10:15
  a
• 10:16
  moment
• 10:16
  that
• 10:16
  you
• 10:16
  had,
• 10:17
  like,
• 10:17
  anger,
• 10:17
  like,
• 10:18
  where
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  like,
• 10:19
  God,
• 10:19
  like,
• 10:20
  I've
• 10:20
  done
• 10:20
  everything
• 10:20
  right.
• 10:21
  I've
• 10:21
  done,
• 10:21
  you
• 10:21
  know,
• 10:22
  all
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  healthy
• 10:22
  things.
• 10:23
  And
• 10:23
  then
• 10:23
  this
• 10:23
  happens.
• 10:24
  Like,
• 10:24
  were
• 10:24
  you
• 10:24
  mad
• 10:25
  at
• 10:25
  all?
• 10:25
  Was
• 10:25
  there
• 10:25
  anger
• 10:26
  there?
• 10:27
  Yes,
• 10:29
  just
• 10:29
  like
• 10:30
  moments
• 10:30
  of
• 10:30
  not
• 10:30
  believing
• 10:31
  that
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  have
• 10:32
  lung
• 10:32
  cancer.
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  have
• 10:33
  moments
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  anger.
• 10:34
  Like
• 10:34
  I'm
• 10:34
  not
• 10:34
  proud
• 10:35
  of
• 10:35
  them,
• 10:36
  but
• 10:36
  I
• 10:37
  remember
• 10:37
  just
• 10:37
  last
• 10:38
  month
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  totally
• 10:39
  lost
• 10:39
  it
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  I
• 10:40
  was
• 10:40
  lying
• 10:40
  down
• 10:40
  on
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  floor
• 10:41
  in
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  hall,
• 10:42
  like,
• 10:42
  screaming
• 10:43
  that
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  just
• 10:43
  wasn't
• 10:43
  fair
• 10:44
  that,
• 10:44
  you
• 10:45
  know,
• 10:45
  I
• 10:45
  tried
• 10:45
  to
• 10:45
  eat
• 10:45
  out
• 10:46
  of
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  fridge,
• 10:46
  not
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  pantry.
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  try
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  run,
• 10:47
  I
• 10:48
  try
• 10:48
  to
• 10:48
  do
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  right
• 10:48
  things.
• 10:49
  Like
• 10:49
  my
• 10:50
  friends
• 10:50
  joke
• 10:50
  that
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  should
• 10:51
  have
• 10:51
  smoked
• 10:51
  with
• 10:51
  them
• 10:51
  because
• 10:52
  then
• 10:52
  maybe
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  wouldn't
• 10:53
  have
• 10:53
  lung
• 10:53
  cancer
• 10:54
  or
• 10:54
  I
• 10:54
  should
• 10:54
  have
• 10:54
  smoked
• 10:55
  because
• 10:55
  it
• 10:55
  doesn't
• 10:55
  matter.
• 10:55
  I
• 10:56
  was
• 10:56
  going
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  get
• 10:56
  it.
• 10:56
  Like,
• 10:57
  I
• 10:57
  really
• 10:57
  worked
• 10:58
  hard
• 10:58
  at
• 10:58
  that.
• 10:58
  I
• 10:58
  didn't
• 10:59
  go
• 10:59
  out
• 11:00
  outside
• 11:00
  of
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  bar.
• 11:01
  You
• 11:01
  know,
• 11:01
  when
• 11:01
  you're
• 11:02
  22
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  your
• 11:02
  friends
• 11:03
  have
• 11:03
  like
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  social
• 11:04
  cigarette,
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  didn't
• 11:05
  do
• 11:05
  those
• 11:05
  things.
• 11:06
  And
• 11:06
  there
• 11:07
  I
• 11:07
  was
• 11:07
  with
• 11:07
  lung
• 11:07
  cancer.
• 11:08
  And
• 11:08
  I
• 11:08
  definitely
• 11:09
  have
• 11:09
  angry
• 11:10
  moments.
• 11:10
  I
• 11:11
  think
• 11:11
  some
• 11:11
  of
• 11:11
  my
• 11:11
  anger,
• 11:12
  not
• 11:13
  proud,
• 11:14
  but
• 11:14
  is
• 11:14
  around
• 11:14
  the
• 11:15
  fact
• 11:15
  that
• 11:15
  lung
• 11:15
  cancer
• 11:16
  research
• 11:17
  and
• 11:17
  all
• 11:17
  the
• 11:18
  information
• 11:18
  we
• 11:18
  know
• 11:19
  is
• 11:20
  15
• 11:20
  to
• 11:20
  20
• 11:21
  years
• 11:21
  behind
• 11:21
  others.
• 11:22
  So
• 11:22
  because
• 11:22
  it
• 11:23
  was
• 11:23
  considered
• 11:23
  a
• 11:23
  lifestyle
• 11:24
  choice
• 11:24
  and
• 11:24
  maybe
• 11:25
  it
• 11:25
  deserved
• 11:25
  disease,
• 11:26
  it
• 11:26
  just
• 11:26
  doesn't
• 11:26
  get
• 11:27
  as
• 11:27
  much
• 11:28
  money
• 11:29
  or
• 11:29
  research
• 11:29
  or
• 11:30
  time
• 11:30
  spent
• 11:30
  on
• 11:31
  it.
• 11:31
  Even
• 11:31
  though
• 11:31
  what
• 11:32
  we're
• 11:32
  realizing
• 11:32
  now
• 11:33
  is
• 11:33
  it's
• 11:33
  kind
• 11:33
  of
• 11:33
  a
• 11:34
  female
• 11:34
  health
• 11:34
  crisis
• 11:35
  in
• 11:35
  it
• 11:35
  all
• 11:35
  as
• 11:36
  well.
• 11:36
  And
• 11:37
  so
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  do,
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  get
• 11:38
  a
• 11:38
  little
• 11:38
  bit
• 11:38
  angry.
• 11:39
  Like
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  say,
• 11:39
  there
• 11:40
  are
• 11:40
  other
• 11:40
  diseases
• 11:41
  out
• 11:41
  there
• 11:41
  that
• 11:41
  are
• 11:41
  deserved
• 11:42
  diseases
• 11:42
  or
• 11:43
  lifestyle
• 11:43
  choices
• 11:43
  that
• 11:44
  are
• 11:44
  getting
• 11:44
  all
• 11:44
  this
• 11:44
  funding.
• 11:45
  Why?
• 11:46
  Why
• 11:46
  none
• 11:46
  for
• 11:46
  lung
• 11:47
  cancer.
• 11:47
  So
• 11:48
  for
• 11:48
  me,
• 11:48
  for
• 11:48
  example,
• 11:49
  I'm
• 11:49
  on
• 11:49
  nothing.
• 11:50
  They
• 11:50
  took
• 11:50
  out
• 11:50
  half
• 11:51
  my
• 11:51
  right,
• 11:51
  low,
• 11:52
  half
• 11:52
  my
• 11:52
  right
• 11:52
  lung,
• 11:53
  my
• 11:53
  middle
• 11:54
  lobe
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  lower
• 11:54
  part
• 11:55
  of
• 11:55
  my
• 11:55
  upper
• 11:55
  lobe,
• 11:56
  and
• 11:56
  they
• 11:56
  sent
• 11:56
  me
• 11:57
  home.
• 11:57
  And
• 11:58
  now
• 11:58
  I'm
• 11:58
  just
• 11:58
  like
• 11:58
  on
• 11:59
  what
• 11:59
  they
• 11:59
  call
• 11:59
  is
• 12:00
  like
• 12:00
  an
• 12:00
  aggressive
• 12:01
  Surveillance.
• 12:02
  So
• 12:02
  I
• 12:02
  have
• 12:02
  blood
• 12:03
  work
• 12:03
  and
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  have
• 12:03
  lung
• 12:04
  CTs
• 12:04
  done
• 12:05
  every
• 12:05
  few
• 12:05
  months.
• 12:05
  And
• 12:06
  they're
• 12:06
  just
• 12:06
  watching
• 12:06
  me
• 12:06
  to
• 12:07
  see
• 12:07
  if
• 12:07
  it
• 12:07
  comes
• 12:07
  back.
• 12:08
  And
• 12:08
  their
• 12:08
  thought
• 12:08
  is,
• 12:08
  if
• 12:09
  it
• 12:09
  comes
• 12:09
  back,
• 12:10
  we
• 12:10
  can
• 12:10
  operate
• 12:11
  and
• 12:11
  take
• 12:11
  it
• 12:11
  out
• 12:11
  again.
• 12:12
  And
• 12:12
  if
• 12:12
  it
• 12:12
  doesn't
• 12:13
  come
• 12:13
  back,
• 12:13
  you
• 12:13
  have
• 12:14
  no
• 12:14
  evidence
• 12:14
  of
• 12:14
  disease.
• 12:15
  Now,
• 12:15
  there's
• 12:16
  no
• 12:16
  reason
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  give
• 12:17
  you
• 12:17
  chemo
• 12:18
  drugs
• 12:18
  or
• 12:18
  radiation
• 12:19
  prophylactically
• 12:20
  because
• 12:20
  there
• 12:21
  is
• 12:21
  no
• 12:21
  disease
• 12:21
  in
• 12:22
  you.
• 12:22
  So
• 12:22
  you
• 12:23
  think,
• 12:23
  okay,
• 12:23
  that's
• 12:23
  okay.
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  can
• 12:24
  deal
• 12:24
  with
• 12:24
  that.
• 12:24
  Well,
• 12:25
  there's
• 12:25
  these
• 12:25
  other
• 12:25
  drugs,
• 12:26
  like
• 12:26
  targeted
• 12:26
  therapies
• 12:27
  and
• 12:27
  immunotherapies
• 12:28
  that
• 12:28
  a
• 12:28
  lot
• 12:28
  of
• 12:28
  people
• 12:29
  have
• 12:29
  for
• 12:29
  their
• 12:29
  cancer
• 12:30
  treatments,
• 12:30
  which
• 12:30
  are
• 12:30
  awesome
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  amazing,
• 12:31
  and
• 12:32
  they
• 12:32
  don't
• 12:32
  cause
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  lot
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  bad
• 12:33
  side
• 12:34
  effects
• 12:34
  that
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  chemo
• 12:35
  drug
• 12:35
  does.
• 12:36
  But
• 12:36
  for
• 12:36
  my
• 12:37
  kind
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  cancer,
• 12:38
  my
• 12:38
  biomarkers,
• 12:39
  there
• 12:39
  is
• 12:40
  no
• 12:40
  drug
• 12:41
  for
• 12:41
  me.
• 12:41
  It
• 12:42
  hasn't
• 12:42
  been
• 12:42
  found.
• 12:43
  So
• 12:43
  there
• 12:43
  isn't
• 12:44
  even
• 12:44
  that
• 12:44
  option.
• 12:45
  And
• 12:45
  so
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  doctors
• 12:46
  are
• 12:46
  like,
• 12:46
  look,
• 12:47
  if
• 12:47
  it
• 12:47
  comes
• 12:47
  back,
• 12:47
  we'll
• 12:48
  operate
• 12:48
  again,
• 12:48
  and
• 12:49
  then
• 12:49
  we
• 12:49
  might
• 12:49
  put
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  on
• 12:50
  a
• 12:50
  full
• 12:50
  dose
• 12:50
  of
• 12:50
  chemo
• 12:51
  to
• 12:51
  make
• 12:51
  sure
• 12:52
  we
• 12:52
  get
• 12:52
  rid
• 12:52
  of
• 12:52
  every
• 12:52
  cell.
• 12:53
  But
• 12:53
  they
• 12:54
  didn't
• 12:54
  feel
• 12:54
  it
• 12:54
  was
• 12:54
  necessary
• 12:55
  at
• 12:55
  this
• 12:55
  point.
• 12:55
  They
• 12:56
  kind
• 12:56
  of
• 12:56
  want
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  keep
• 12:56
  it
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  arsenal.
• 12:57
  Their
• 12:57
  hope
• 12:58
  is,
• 12:58
  as
• 12:58
  time
• 12:59
  goes,
• 12:59
  they
• 12:59
  find
• 13:00
  more
• 13:00
  drugs,
• 13:00
  and
• 13:00
  the
• 13:00
  opportunity
• 13:01
  for
• 13:01
  me
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  take
• 13:02
  something
• 13:02
  becomes
• 13:03
  available
• 13:03
  because
• 13:04
  there
• 13:04
  really
• 13:04
  isn't
• 13:05
  an
• 13:05
  option
• 13:06
  for
• 13:06
  me
• 13:06
  right
• 13:06
  now.
• 13:07
  Mm.
• 13:07
  Okay.
• 13:08
  Was
• 13:08
  there
• 13:09
  ever
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  sense
• 13:09
  of,
• 13:09
  like,
• 13:10
  betrayal
• 13:11
  of
• 13:11
  your
• 13:11
  body?
• 13:12
  Yeah.
• 13:12
  It's
• 13:12
  interesting.
• 13:13
  My
• 13:13
  mom
• 13:13
  is
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  breast
• 13:14
  cancer
• 13:14
  survivor,
• 13:15
  so
• 13:15
  I
• 13:16
  always
• 13:16
  thought
• 13:16
  I
• 13:17
  would
• 13:17
  get
• 13:17
  breast
• 13:17
  cancer.
• 13:18
  So
• 13:18
  every
• 13:18
  six
• 13:18
  months,
• 13:19
  when
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  have
• 13:19
  my
• 13:19
  mammogram
• 13:20
  or
• 13:20
  my
• 13:20
  MRI
• 13:20
  or
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  ultrasound,
• 13:22
  I
• 13:23
  literally
• 13:23
  put
• 13:23
  on
• 13:23
  the
• 13:24
  scrubs,
• 13:24
  because
• 13:24
  you
• 13:24
  have
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  change,
• 13:25
  obviously.
• 13:26
  And
• 13:27
  I
• 13:27
  take
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  picture,
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  I'm
• 13:28
  like.
• 13:28
  And
• 13:28
  I
• 13:29
  text
• 13:29
  it
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  my
• 13:29
  mom,
• 13:29
  and
• 13:30
  I
• 13:30
  say,
• 13:30
  is
• 13:30
  today
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  day?
• 13:31
  Right?
• 13:32
  And
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  just
• 13:33
  always
• 13:33
  felt
• 13:34
  like,
• 13:34
  that's
• 13:34
  okay.
• 13:35
  Like,
• 13:36
  if
• 13:36
  I
• 13:36
  get
• 13:36
  breast
• 13:36
  cancer,
• 13:37
  there's
• 13:37
  great
• 13:37
  drugs.
• 13:38
  Like,
• 13:38
  I'm
• 13:38
  going
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  beat
• 13:39
  it.
• 13:39
  Like,
• 13:39
  my
• 13:39
  mom's
• 13:40
  been
• 13:40
  able
• 13:40
  to
• 13:40
  beat
• 13:40
  it,
• 13:41
  and
• 13:41
  then
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  get
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  new
• 13:41
  set,
• 13:42
  right?
• 13:43
  So
• 13:43
  when
• 13:44
  it
• 13:44
  was
• 13:44
  my
• 13:44
  lungs,
• 13:46
  I
• 13:47
  was
• 13:47
  really
• 13:47
  angry
• 13:47
  and
• 13:48
  felt
• 13:48
  betrayed
• 13:48
  because
• 13:49
  I
• 13:49
  felt
• 13:49
  like,
• 13:50
  hey,
• 13:50
  I
• 13:51
  run,
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  exercise,
• 13:52
  I
• 13:52
  do
• 13:52
  all
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  things
• 13:52
  I'm
• 13:53
  supposed
• 13:53
  to
• 13:53
  do
• 13:53
  for
• 13:53
  you.
• 13:53
  And,
• 13:54
  like,
• 13:54
  rude.
• 13:55
  You
• 13:55
  turned
• 13:55
  your
• 13:55
  back
• 13:55
  on
• 13:56
  me.
• 13:56
  I
• 13:56
  feel
• 13:56
  like
• 13:57
  that's
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  whole,
• 13:58
  like,
• 13:58
  deserved
• 13:58
  disease.
• 13:59
  Like,
• 13:59
  people
• 13:59
  want
• 14:00
  to
• 14:00
  give
• 14:00
  me.
• 14:00
  Want
• 14:01
  a
• 14:01
  reason
• 14:01
  why
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  have
• 14:02
  lung
• 14:02
  cancer?
• 14:02
  No
• 14:03
  one
• 14:03
  asks
• 14:03
  somebody
• 14:04
  who
• 14:04
  has
• 14:04
  breast
• 14:04
  cancer
• 14:04
  or
• 14:05
  ovarian
• 14:05
  cancer,
• 14:05
  what
• 14:06
  did
• 14:06
  you
• 14:06
  do
• 14:06
  wrong?
• 14:07
  Or
• 14:07
  how
• 14:07
  did
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  get
• 14:08
  it?
• 14:08
  They're
• 14:09
  just
• 14:09
  like,
• 14:09
  oh,
• 14:09
  my
• 14:09
  God,
• 14:09
  that's
• 14:10
  terrible.
• 14:11
  But
• 14:11
  with
• 14:11
  lung
• 14:11
  cancer,
• 14:12
  people
• 14:12
  are
• 14:12
  like,
• 14:13
  well,
• 14:13
  do
• 14:13
  you
• 14:13
  smoke?
• 14:14
  Do
• 14:14
  you
• 14:14
  use
• 14:14
  too
• 14:14
  much
• 14:14
  hairspray?
• 14:15
  Do
• 14:15
  you
• 14:15
  not
• 14:15
  exercise?
• 14:16
  Do
• 14:16
  you
• 14:16
  not?
• 14:16
  And
• 14:16
  you're
• 14:17
  just
• 14:17
  like,
• 14:17
  no,
• 14:17
  wait,
• 14:17
  what?
• 14:18
  I
• 14:18
  do
• 14:18
  all
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  right
• 14:19
  things.
• 14:19
  So,
• 14:20
  yeah,
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  get
• 14:20
  really.
• 14:21
  I
• 14:21
  get
• 14:21
  mad
• 14:22
  at
• 14:22
  my
• 14:22
  body
• 14:22
  sometimes
• 14:23
  for
• 14:23
  sure,
• 14:24
  Right?
• 14:24
  And
• 14:25
  it
• 14:25
  seems
• 14:25
  like,
• 14:25
  you
• 14:25
  know,
• 14:26
  your
• 14:26
  past.
• 14:26
  Like,
• 14:27
  thank
• 14:27
  God
• 14:28
  you
• 14:28
  got
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  second
• 14:28
  scan.
• 14:29
  Right?
• 14:29
  Like,
• 14:30
  do
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  ever.
• 14:30
  Does
• 14:31
  your
• 14:31
  mind
• 14:31
  ever
• 14:31
  go
• 14:31
  back
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  think,
• 14:32
  God,
• 14:32
  what
• 14:33
  if
• 14:33
  I
• 14:33
  hadn't
• 14:33
  gotten
• 14:34
  that
• 14:34
  second
• 14:34
  scan
• 14:35
  all
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  time?
• 14:37
  I.
• 14:38
  I
• 14:39
  was
• 14:39
  never,
• 14:39
  like,
• 14:39
  that
• 14:39
  much
• 14:40
  of
• 14:40
  a
• 14:40
  spiritual
• 14:41
  person
• 14:41
  before,
• 14:42
  but
• 14:42
  this
• 14:43
  whole
• 14:44
  process
• 14:44
  has
• 14:44
  made
• 14:44
  me
• 14:45
  very
• 14:45
  spiritual.
• 14:46
  So
• 14:46
  when
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  first
• 14:47
  found
• 14:47
  out
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  had
• 14:48
  lung
• 14:48
  cancer,
• 14:48
  my
• 14:48
  aunt
• 14:49
  just
• 14:50
  passed
• 14:50
  away
• 14:50
  from
• 14:51
  stomach
• 14:51
  cancer.
• 14:52
  And
• 14:52
  she
• 14:53
  and
• 14:53
  I
• 14:53
  were
• 14:53
  so
• 14:53
  close.
• 14:54
  She'd
• 14:54
  get
• 14:54
  me.
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  would
• 14:54
  FaceTime
• 14:55
  her
• 14:55
  every
• 14:55
  morning
• 14:55
  to
• 14:56
  pick
• 14:56
  out
• 14:56
  my
• 14:56
  outfits.
• 14:56
  Like,
• 14:57
  we
• 14:57
  were
• 14:57
  just
• 14:57
  so
• 14:57
  close.
• 14:57
  She
• 14:58
  had
• 14:58
  three
• 14:58
  boys,
• 14:58
  and
• 14:59
  so
• 14:59
  I
• 15:00
  kind
• 15:00
  of
• 15:01
  adopt.
• 15:01
  Was
• 15:01
  adopted
• 15:02
  as
• 15:02
  her
• 15:02
  daughter
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  little
• 15:03
  bit
• 15:03
  from
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  young
• 15:04
  age.
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  was
• 15:04
  born
• 15:04
  on
• 15:05
  her
• 15:05
  30th
• 15:05
  birthday.
• 15:05
  We're
• 15:06
  just
• 15:06
  so
• 15:06
  close.
• 15:07
  And
• 15:08
  she
• 15:08
  passed
• 15:08
  away
• 15:08
  a
• 15:09
  month
• 15:09
  before
• 15:09
  my
• 15:09
  diagnosis.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:11
  at
• 15:11
  first
• 15:11
  I
• 15:12
  was,
• 15:12
  like,
• 15:13
  kind
• 15:13
  of
• 15:13
  angry
• 15:14
  with
• 15:14
  her,
• 15:15
  too.
• 15:15
  Like,
• 15:15
  why
• 15:15
  aren't
• 15:16
  you
• 15:16
  here?
• 15:16
  Like,
• 15:16
  you
• 15:18
  left
• 15:19
  me
• 15:19
  during
• 15:19
  my
• 15:20
  battle,
• 15:20
  and,
• 15:21
  like,
• 15:21
  I
• 15:21
  was
• 15:21
  there
• 15:21
  during
• 15:22
  yours.
• 15:23
  And
• 15:23
  then
• 15:23
  I
• 15:24
  kind
• 15:24
  of
• 15:24
  started.
• 15:24
  I
• 15:25
  would,
• 15:25
  like,
• 15:25
  look
• 15:25
  up
• 15:25
  at
• 15:25
  the
• 15:26
  sky
• 15:26
  and
• 15:26
  yell
• 15:26
  a
• 15:26
  little
• 15:26
  bit
• 15:27
  at
• 15:27
  her,
• 15:27
  like,
• 15:27
  what
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  hell?
• 15:28
  Come
• 15:28
  back.
• 15:28
  I
• 15:29
  need
• 15:29
  you
• 15:29
  right
• 15:29
  now.
• 15:29
  And.
• 15:30
  And
• 15:30
  then,
• 15:30
  like,
• 15:31
  this
• 15:31
  spiritual
• 15:32
  side
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  me
• 15:32
  was
• 15:32
  like,
• 15:32
  wait
• 15:33
  a
• 15:33
  minute.
• 15:33
  Maybe
• 15:34
  she's
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  one
• 15:34
  who
• 15:35
  told
• 15:35
  me
• 15:35
  to
• 15:35
  get
• 15:35
  that
• 15:35
  scan.
• 15:36
  Like,
• 15:36
  what?
• 15:36
  Nudged
• 15:37
  me
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  do
• 15:38
  it.
• 15:38
  You're
• 15:39
  right.
• 15:39
  Why
• 15:39
  did
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  do
• 15:40
  it?
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  don't
• 15:41
  have
• 15:41
  an
• 15:41
  answer.
• 15:42
  No
• 15:42
  doctor,
• 15:43
  no
• 15:43
  friend,
• 15:44
  no
• 15:44
  husband,
• 15:45
  nothing.
• 15:45
  No
• 15:45
  one
• 15:45
  said,
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  should
• 15:46
  go
• 15:46
  follow
• 15:46
  up
• 15:46
  with
• 15:46
  the
• 15:47
  ct.
• 15:47
  It
• 15:47
  was
• 15:47
  like,
• 15:48
  I
• 15:49
  was
• 15:49
  actually
• 15:49
  at
• 15:49
  my
• 15:49
  endocrinologist's
• 15:50
  office
• 15:51
  showing
• 15:51
  him
• 15:52
  how
• 15:52
  cool
• 15:53
  the
• 15:53
  full
• 15:53
  body
• 15:54
  scan
• 15:54
  app
• 15:55
  was.
• 15:56
  Oh,
• 15:56
  look
• 15:56
  at
• 15:56
  all
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  features.
• 15:57
  And
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  was
• 15:58
  doing
• 15:58
  that,
• 15:58
  and
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  said,
• 15:58
  oh,
• 15:59
  actually,
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  know,
• 15:59
  it
• 16:00
  showed
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  had
• 16:00
  nodules
• 16:01
  on
• 16:01
  my
• 16:01
  thyroid,
• 16:01
  which
• 16:02
  makes
• 16:02
  sense
• 16:02
  because
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  have
• 16:02
  Hashimoto's.
• 16:03
  And
• 16:03
  he
• 16:03
  was
• 16:03
  like,
• 16:03
  yeah,
• 16:04
  we
• 16:04
  know
• 16:04
  about
• 16:04
  those.
• 16:04
  So
• 16:05
  I
• 16:05
  was
• 16:05
  showing
• 16:06
  him,
• 16:06
  like,
• 16:07
  literally
• 16:07
  how
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  could
• 16:08
  zoom
• 16:08
  in
• 16:08
  and
• 16:08
  out
• 16:09
  on
• 16:09
  my
• 16:09
  thyroid
• 16:09
  nodule.
• 16:10
  And
• 16:11
  then
• 16:11
  I.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:11
  then
• 16:11
  he.
• 16:12
  I
• 16:12
  said,
• 16:12
  oh.
• 16:12
  And
• 16:12
  it
• 16:12
  also
• 16:13
  found
• 16:13
  something
• 16:13
  on
• 16:13
  my
• 16:13
  lungs.
• 16:14
  And
• 16:14
  he
• 16:15
  said,
• 16:15
  oh,
• 16:15
  do
• 16:15
  you
• 16:16
  want
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  follow
• 16:16
  up?
• 16:16
  It
• 16:16
  says,
• 16:17
  only
• 16:17
  if
• 16:17
  you
• 16:17
  have
• 16:17
  symptoms.
• 16:18
  And
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  said,
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  know
• 16:18
  I
• 16:19
  don't
• 16:19
  have
• 16:19
  symptoms.
• 16:19
  And
• 16:20
  then
• 16:20
  I
• 16:20
  was,
• 16:20
  like,
• 16:21
  leaving
• 16:21
  his
• 16:21
  office,
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  I
• 16:22
  turned
• 16:22
  to
• 16:22
  him
• 16:22
  and
• 16:23
  I
• 16:23
  said,
• 16:23
  actually,
• 16:24
  just
• 16:24
  sign
• 16:25
  me
• 16:25
  up
• 16:25
  for
• 16:25
  a
• 16:25
  Low
• 16:25
  dose
• 16:25
  ct.
• 16:26
  I've
• 16:26
  never
• 16:26
  had
• 16:26
  one.
• 16:26
  Maybe
• 16:26
  it'll
• 16:27
  be
• 16:27
  interesting,
• 16:28
  but
• 16:28
  like,
• 16:28
  why
• 16:28
  did
• 16:29
  I
• 16:29
  do
• 16:29
  that?
• 16:29
  And
• 16:29
  I
• 16:30
  sometimes
• 16:30
  think
• 16:30
  that
• 16:31
  maybe
• 16:32
  it
• 16:32
  was
• 16:32
  this
• 16:32
  spiritual
• 16:33
  thing
• 16:33
  where
• 16:33
  someone
• 16:34
  from
• 16:34
  up
• 16:34
  above
• 16:34
  was
• 16:35
  like,
• 16:35
  girl,
• 16:35
  you
• 16:35
  have
• 16:36
  lung
• 16:36
  cancer.
• 16:36
  Like,
• 16:37
  go
• 16:37
  check.
• 16:38
  Yeah,
• 16:39
  that's,
• 16:39
  that's.
• 16:40
  I
• 16:40
  mean,
• 16:40
  you
• 16:41
  have
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  almost
• 16:41
  chalk
• 16:41
  it
• 16:41
  up
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  something
• 16:42
  like
• 16:42
  that
• 16:42
  because,
• 16:43
  like,
• 16:43
  why
• 16:43
  would
• 16:43
  you
• 16:44
  have,
• 16:44
  you
• 16:44
  know,
• 16:45
  like.
• 16:45
  And
• 16:46
  thank
• 16:46
  God
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  did.
• 16:47
  And,
• 16:47
  you
• 16:47
  know,
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  think
• 16:48
  another
• 16:49
  interesting
• 16:49
  point,
• 16:50
  when
• 16:50
  we
• 16:50
  were
• 16:50
  talking
• 16:51
  at
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  conference,
• 16:51
  you
• 16:52
  know,
• 16:52
  you
• 16:52
  were
• 16:52
  saying
• 16:52
  that,
• 16:53
  like,
• 16:53
  screening
• 16:54
  is
• 16:54
  not
• 16:54
  popular
• 16:55
  amongst,
• 16:56
  you
• 16:56
  know,
• 16:56
  especially
• 16:57
  women
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  go
• 16:58
  get
• 16:58
  lung
• 16:58
  cancer
• 16:59
  screenings
• 16:59
  and
• 17:00
  oftentimes
• 17:00
  not
• 17:01
  even
• 17:01
  covered
• 17:01
  by
• 17:02
  insurance.
• 17:03
  The
• 17:03
  system
• 17:03
  seems
• 17:04
  so
• 17:04
  broken
• 17:05
  in
• 17:05
  that
• 17:05
  way.
• 17:05
  It
• 17:06
  does,
• 17:06
  right?
• 17:06
  I
• 17:07
  mean,
• 17:07
  I
• 17:07
  think
• 17:08
  I
• 17:08
  feel
• 17:08
  like
• 17:09
  in
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  mammogram
• 17:10
  world,
• 17:10
  right,
• 17:10
  you
• 17:10
  have
• 17:11
  like
• 17:11
  guilt
• 17:11
  if
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  don't
• 17:12
  go.
• 17:12
  Sometimes,
• 17:12
  like,
• 17:12
  I'm
• 17:12
  like,
• 17:13
  oh
• 17:13
  my
• 17:13
  God,
• 17:13
  I'm
• 17:13
  at
• 17:13
  13
• 17:13
  months,
• 17:14
  not
• 17:14
  at
• 17:14
  12.
• 17:14
  Like,
• 17:14
  oh
• 17:15
  my
• 17:15
  God,
• 17:15
  I
• 17:15
  gotta
• 17:15
  go.
• 17:15
  Like,
• 17:16
  there's
• 17:16
  a
• 17:16
  lot
• 17:16
  of
• 17:16
  guilt
• 17:16
  around
• 17:17
  that.
• 17:17
  And
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  think
• 17:17
  that
• 17:18
  that's
• 17:18
  from
• 17:19
  decades
• 17:19
  of,
• 17:20
  you
• 17:20
  know,
• 17:21
  Nancy
• 17:21
  Brinker
• 17:22
  through
• 17:22
  Susan
• 17:22
  G.
• 17:22
  Komen
• 17:23
  and
• 17:23
  things
• 17:23
  like
• 17:23
  that,
• 17:23
  pushing
• 17:24
  people
• 17:24
  to
• 17:24
  understand,
• 17:25
  change
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  narrative
• 17:25
  to
• 17:26
  explain,
• 17:26
  explain
• 17:26
  to
• 17:26
  people
• 17:27
  breast
• 17:27
  cancer
• 17:27
  is
• 17:28
  not
• 17:28
  your
• 17:28
  fault.
• 17:29
  Like,
• 17:29
  just
• 17:29
  check
• 17:30
  for
• 17:30
  it
• 17:30
  and
• 17:30
  we
• 17:30
  can
• 17:30
  catch
• 17:31
  it
• 17:31
  early
• 17:31
  enough
• 17:31
  now
• 17:32
  and
• 17:33
  we
• 17:33
  can,
• 17:33
  you
• 17:34
  know,
• 17:34
  cure
• 17:34
  so
• 17:35
  many
• 17:35
  people.
• 17:35
  Like,
• 17:35
  it's
• 17:36
  so
• 17:36
  wonderful
• 17:37
  how
• 17:37
  much
• 17:37
  science
• 17:38
  has
• 17:38
  helped
• 17:38
  breast
• 17:38
  cancer
• 17:39
  patients.
• 17:40
  And
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  think
• 17:41
  that
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  current
• 17:42
  guidelines
• 17:43
  for
• 17:43
  lung
• 17:43
  cancer
• 17:43
  screening
• 17:44
  need
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  be
• 17:45
  changed.
• 17:46
  And
• 17:46
  there's
• 17:46
  a
• 17:46
  few
• 17:46
  reasons.
• 17:47
  So
• 17:47
  currently,
• 17:48
  in
• 17:48
  order
• 17:48
  to
• 17:49
  get
• 17:49
  Medicare
• 17:49
  or
• 17:50
  Medicaid
• 17:50
  or
• 17:50
  your
• 17:50
  insurance
• 17:51
  to
• 17:51
  cover
• 17:51
  your
• 17:52
  lung
• 17:52
  cancer
• 17:53
  screening,
• 17:55
  you
• 17:56
  have
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  be
• 17:56
  over
• 17:57
  the
• 17:57
  age
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  50
• 17:57
  and
• 17:58
  smoke
• 17:58
  a
• 17:59
  pack
• 17:59
  a
• 17:59
  day
• 17:59
  for
• 18:00
  15
• 18:00
  years.
• 18:01
  So
• 18:02
  there's
• 18:03
  a
• 18:03
  few
• 18:03
  issues
• 18:03
  with
• 18:03
  that.
• 18:04
  One
• 18:04
  that
• 18:04
  doesn't
• 18:05
  account
• 18:05
  for
• 18:05
  people
• 18:05
  that
• 18:06
  have
• 18:06
  parents
• 18:06
  who
• 18:07
  are
• 18:07
  lung
• 18:07
  cancer
• 18:08
  survivors
• 18:08
  or
• 18:08
  passed
• 18:09
  away
• 18:09
  from
• 18:09
  lung
• 18:09
  cancer.
• 18:10
  So
• 18:10
  there's
• 18:10
  no
• 18:10
  family
• 18:10
  history
• 18:11
  brought
• 18:12
  up
• 18:12
  in
• 18:12
  that
• 18:12
  like
• 18:12
  we
• 18:12
  do
• 18:13
  with
• 18:13
  breast
• 18:13
  cancer.
• 18:14
  That
• 18:15
  doesn't
• 18:15
  account
• 18:15
  for
• 18:16
  veterans
• 18:16
  who
• 18:16
  are
• 18:17
  in
• 18:17
  burn
• 18:17
  pits
• 18:17
  or,
• 18:18
  or
• 18:18
  people
• 18:18
  that
• 18:19
  work
• 18:19
  in
• 18:19
  industries
• 18:20
  in
• 18:20
  like,
• 18:21
  you
• 18:21
  know,
• 18:21
  I
• 18:22
  don't
• 18:22
  know,
• 18:22
  maybe
• 18:22
  like
• 18:23
  nail
• 18:23
  salons
• 18:23
  or
• 18:24
  maybe
• 18:24
  like
• 18:24
  an
• 18:25
  engineering
• 18:25
  plant
• 18:26
  or,
• 18:26
  you
• 18:26
  know,
• 18:27
  things
• 18:27
  like
• 18:27
  that
• 18:27
  doesn't
• 18:28
  account
• 18:28
  for
• 18:28
  that.
• 18:29
  And
• 18:30
  it
• 18:30
  doesn't
• 18:30
  account
• 18:30
  for
• 18:30
  just
• 18:31
  young,
• 18:31
  healthy
• 18:31
  women
• 18:31
  which
• 18:32
  are
• 18:32
  on
• 18:32
  the
• 18:33
  rise.
• 18:33
  And
• 18:33
  so
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  addition
• 18:35
  to
• 18:35
  that,
• 18:36
  who.
• 18:37
  In
• 18:37
  my
• 18:38
  peer
• 18:38
  group,
• 18:38
  there
• 18:39
  are
• 18:39
  not
• 18:39
  many
• 18:40
  people
• 18:40
  that
• 18:40
  are
• 18:40
  smoking
• 18:40
  a
• 18:41
  pack
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  day.
• 18:41
  That
• 18:41
  isn't
• 18:42
  a
• 18:42
  thing.
• 18:42
  People
• 18:43
  vape
• 18:43
  or
• 18:43
  they
• 18:43
  do
• 18:44
  this
• 18:44
  or
• 18:44
  they
• 18:44
  do
• 18:44
  that.
• 18:44
  It's
• 18:45
  almost
• 18:45
  like
• 18:46
  it's
• 18:46
  antiquated.
• 18:47
  It's
• 18:47
  not
• 18:47
  a
• 18:47
  thing
• 18:48
  anymore.
• 18:48
  There's
• 18:48
  not
• 18:49
  like
• 18:49
  smoke
• 18:50
  a
• 18:50
  pack
• 18:50
  a
• 18:50
  day
• 18:50
  people
• 18:51
  as
• 18:51
  much.
• 18:52
  And
• 18:52
  so
• 18:53
  I
• 18:53
  think
• 18:53
  that's
• 18:54
  one
• 18:54
  of
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  things
• 18:54
  I
• 18:54
  talk
• 18:55
  about
• 18:55
  in
• 18:55
  my
• 18:55
  book
• 18:55
  and
• 18:56
  things
• 18:56
  that
• 18:56
  I'm
• 18:56
  talking
• 18:57
  about
• 18:57
  with
• 18:57
  the
• 18:58
  government
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  we
• 18:58
  need
• 18:59
  Medicare
• 18:59
  and
• 18:59
  Medicaid
• 19:00
  and
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  guidelines
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  change
• 19:02
  so
• 19:02
  that
• 19:02
  it
• 19:02
  trickles
• 19:03
  down
• 19:03
  into
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  insurance
• 19:04
  companies
• 19:04
  and
• 19:05
  that
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  rest
• 19:05
  of
• 19:06
  us
• 19:06
  can
• 19:06
  get
• 19:06
  it.
• 19:07
  The
• 19:07
  reality
• 19:07
  with
• 19:08
  a
• 19:08
  lung
• 19:08
  low
• 19:09
  dose
• 19:09
  chest
• 19:09
  CT
• 19:10
  today
• 19:11
  is
• 19:11
  it's
• 19:11
  less
• 19:11
  than
• 19:11
  $200,
• 19:13
  which
• 19:14
  is
• 19:14
  not
• 19:15
  that
• 19:15
  expensive,
• 19:16
  but
• 19:16
  it
• 19:16
  is
• 19:16
  not
• 19:16
  affordable
• 19:17
  for
• 19:17
  everyone.
• 19:18
  Right.
• 19:18
  So
• 19:19
  I
• 19:19
  started
• 19:19
  a
• 19:20
  foundation
• 19:20
  called
• 19:20
  Cancer
• 19:21
  Doesn't
• 19:21
  Care.
• 19:21
  And
• 19:22
  that's
• 19:22
  my
• 19:22
  whole
• 19:23
  mission,
• 19:23
  is
• 19:23
  to
• 19:24
  pay
• 19:24
  for
• 19:24
  people's
• 19:24
  lung
• 19:25
  screenings
• 19:25
  until
• 19:26
  we
• 19:26
  can
• 19:26
  get
• 19:26
  insurance
• 19:27
  to
• 19:27
  cover
• 19:27
  it.
• 19:28
  I
• 19:28
  think
• 19:28
  that
• 19:29
  we
• 19:29
  need
• 19:30
  to
• 19:30
  work
• 19:30
  with
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  United
• 19:30
  States
• 19:31
  Preventative
• 19:31
  Task
• 19:32
  Force
• 19:32
  to
• 19:32
  adjust
• 19:32
  the
• 19:33
  guidelines
• 19:33
  to
• 19:33
  account
• 19:34
  for
• 19:34
  things
• 19:34
  like
• 19:35
  vaping
• 19:35
  versus
• 19:36
  smoking
• 19:37
  and
• 19:37
  family
• 19:37
  history
• 19:38
  and
• 19:38
  things
• 19:38
  like
• 19:38
  that.
• 19:40
  They
• 19:40
  found
• 19:41
  actually
• 19:41
  in
• 19:41
  2025
• 19:42
  they
• 19:43
  did
• 19:43
  a
• 19:43
  study
• 19:43
  that
• 19:44
  over
• 19:44
  2/3
• 19:45
  of
• 19:45
  patients
• 19:46
  diagnosed
• 19:47
  with
• 19:47
  lung
• 19:47
  cancer
• 19:48
  did
• 19:49
  not
• 19:49
  meet
• 19:49
  lung
• 19:50
  cancer
• 19:50
  screening
• 19:50
  guidelines.
• 19:52
  So
• 19:52
  that's
• 19:52
  like
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  pretty
• 19:52
  big
• 19:53
  number.
• 19:53
  That's
• 19:53
  big.
• 19:53
  And
• 19:54
  it's
• 19:54
  also
• 19:54
  crazy
• 19:55
  number
• 19:55
  because
• 19:55
  that
• 19:56
  means
• 19:56
  all
• 19:56
  of
• 19:57
  those
• 19:57
  patients
• 19:57
  found
• 19:58
  it,
• 19:58
  incidentally.
• 19:59
  So
• 19:59
  maybe
• 20:00
  my
• 20:00
  friend's
• 20:01
  mom
• 20:01
  fell
• 20:02
  down
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  stairs
• 20:02
  and
• 20:02
  she
• 20:03
  cracked
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  rib.
• 20:03
  So
• 20:04
  she
• 20:04
  went
• 20:04
  to
• 20:04
  the
• 20:04
  emergency
• 20:05
  room
• 20:05
  and
• 20:05
  they
• 20:05
  found
• 20:05
  lung
• 20:06
  cancer.
• 20:06
  Oh,
• 20:06
  wow.
• 20:07
  So
• 20:07
  for
• 20:08
  things
• 20:08
  that
• 20:08
  don't
• 20:08
  even
• 20:09
  necessarily
• 20:10
  have
• 20:10
  to
• 20:10
  do
• 20:10
  with
• 20:10
  the
• 20:11
  lung
• 20:11
  at
• 20:11
  all.
• 20:12
  Right.
• 20:12
  That's
• 20:12
  how
• 20:12
  they're
• 20:13
  catching
• 20:13
  it.
• 20:13
  Because
• 20:13
  by
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  time
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  really
• 20:14
  have
• 20:14
  symptoms
• 20:15
  from
• 20:15
  lung
• 20:15
  cancer,
• 20:16
  it's
• 20:16
  too
• 20:16
  late,
• 20:16
  it's
• 20:17
  spread.
• 20:17
  So
• 20:18
  a
• 20:18
  lot
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  people
• 20:18
  find
• 20:18
  lung
• 20:19
  cancer
• 20:19
  like
• 20:19
  their
• 20:20
  hip
• 20:20
  hurts
• 20:20
  and
• 20:20
  it's
• 20:21
  in
• 20:21
  their
• 20:21
  bones
• 20:21
  or
• 20:22
  they
• 20:22
  have
• 20:22
  a
• 20:22
  seizure
• 20:22
  and
• 20:23
  it's
• 20:23
  in
• 20:23
  their
• 20:23
  brain.
• 20:24
  So
• 20:25
  you
• 20:25
  don't
• 20:25
  like
• 20:25
  feel
• 20:26
  your
• 20:26
  lungs.
• 20:26
  Your
• 20:26
  lungs
• 20:27
  kind
• 20:27
  of
• 20:27
  compensate
• 20:28
  and
• 20:28
  just
• 20:29
  take
• 20:29
  in
• 20:29
  more
• 20:29
  air
• 20:29
  in
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  healthy
• 20:30
  parts
• 20:31
  in
• 20:31
  order
• 20:31
  to
• 20:32
  keep
• 20:32
  you
• 20:32
  going.
• 20:33
  So
• 20:33
  you
• 20:33
  don't
• 20:33
  like,
• 20:34
  know
• 20:34
  sometimes
• 20:35
  that
• 20:35
  there
• 20:35
  is
• 20:36
  an
• 20:36
  infection
• 20:36
  and
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  it's
• 20:37
  growing
• 20:37
  if
• 20:38
  it's
• 20:38
  small
• 20:38
  enough
• 20:38
  to
• 20:39
  start.
• 20:39
  Okay.
• 20:40
  So
• 20:40
  for
• 20:41
  a
• 20:41
  woman
• 20:41
  like
• 20:41
  listening
• 20:42
  at
• 20:42
  home
• 20:42
  that
• 20:43
  maybe,
• 20:43
  maybe
• 20:43
  she
• 20:44
  has
• 20:44
  symptoms,
• 20:44
  maybe
• 20:44
  she
• 20:44
  doesn't,
• 20:45
  maybe
• 20:45
  she
• 20:45
  just
• 20:45
  wants
• 20:46
  to,
• 20:46
  you
• 20:46
  know,
• 20:47
  pre
• 20:47
  preventative
• 20:48
  about
• 20:48
  this.
• 20:48
  What
• 20:49
  is
• 20:49
  she
• 20:49
  saying
• 20:50
  to
• 20:50
  her
• 20:50
  doctor,
• 20:50
  like,
• 20:51
  what
• 20:51
  are
• 20:51
  the
• 20:52
  tests
• 20:52
  she
• 20:52
  should
• 20:52
  be
• 20:53
  requesting
• 20:53
  or
• 20:54
  the
• 20:54
  blood
• 20:54
  work
• 20:54
  or
• 20:55
  what,
• 20:55
  what
• 20:56
  should
• 20:56
  she
• 20:56
  be
• 20:56
  saying
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  the
• 20:57
  doctor?
• 20:57
  That
• 20:58
  is
• 20:58
  the
• 20:58
  million
• 20:58
  dollar
• 20:59
  question.
• 20:59
  And
• 20:59
  the
• 21:00
  problem
• 21:00
  right
• 21:00
  now
• 21:01
  is
• 21:01
  when
• 21:01
  you
• 21:01
  ask
• 21:02
  your
• 21:02
  doctor
• 21:02
  about
• 21:02
  it,
• 21:02
  they'll
• 21:03
  probably
• 21:03
  give
• 21:03
  pushback
• 21:04
  because
• 21:04
  you
• 21:05
  don't
• 21:05
  meet
• 21:05
  guidelines.
• 21:06
  So
• 21:06
  what
• 21:07
  I
• 21:07
  recommend
• 21:07
  is
• 21:08
  talking
• 21:08
  to
• 21:08
  your
• 21:08
  doctor
• 21:08
  and
• 21:09
  asking
• 21:09
  for
• 21:09
  a
• 21:10
  low
• 21:10
  dose
• 21:10
  CT
• 21:11
  scan.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:13
  it
• 21:13
  is
• 21:13
  the
• 21:14
  same
• 21:14
  scan
• 21:14
  that
• 21:14
  they
• 21:15
  actually
• 21:15
  do
• 21:15
  for
• 21:15
  your
• 21:15
  heart
• 21:16
  when
• 21:16
  you
• 21:16
  look
• 21:16
  at
• 21:16
  calcium
• 21:17
  scores,
• 21:18
  but
• 21:18
  it
• 21:18
  just
• 21:19
  widens
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  view
• 21:19
  and
• 21:20
  looks
• 21:20
  at
• 21:20
  your
• 21:20
  lungs
• 21:20
  also.
• 21:21
  So
• 21:21
  you
• 21:21
  can
• 21:21
  do
• 21:21
  both
• 21:22
  at
• 21:22
  once
• 21:22
  if
• 21:22
  you
• 21:22
  want.
• 21:23
  It's
• 21:23
  less
• 21:23
  than
• 21:23
  a
• 21:23
  minute.
• 21:24
  It
• 21:24
  should
• 21:24
  be
• 21:24
  less
• 21:25
  than
• 21:25
  a
• 21:25
  couple
• 21:25
  hundred
• 21:25
  dollars.
• 21:26
  But
• 21:27
  your
• 21:27
  insurance
• 21:28
  isn't
• 21:28
  going
• 21:28
  to
• 21:28
  cover
• 21:28
  it.
• 21:28
  I've
• 21:29
  actually
• 21:29
  found
• 21:29
  it's
• 21:30
  better
• 21:30
  to
• 21:30
  tell
• 21:30
  them
• 21:30
  you
• 21:30
  have
• 21:31
  no
• 21:31
  insurance
• 21:31
  when
• 21:32
  you
• 21:32
  show
• 21:32
  up
• 21:32
  than
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  have
• 21:33
  them
• 21:33
  bill
• 21:33
  your
• 21:34
  insurance.
• 21:34
  It
• 21:34
  get
• 21:34
  denied
• 21:35
  and
• 21:35
  then
• 21:35
  you
• 21:35
  pay
• 21:36
  more
• 21:36
  for
• 21:36
  whatever
• 21:37
  backwards
• 21:37
  reason.
• 21:38
  So
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  would
• 21:39
  ask
• 21:40
  your
• 21:40
  doctor
• 21:40
  for
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  low
• 21:40
  dose
• 21:41
  ct.
• 21:41
  A
• 21:42
  lot
• 21:42
  of
• 21:42
  doctors
• 21:42
  that
• 21:43
  my
• 21:44
  peers
• 21:44
  have
• 21:44
  come
• 21:44
  across
• 21:45
  because
• 21:45
  they've
• 21:45
  reached
• 21:46
  out
• 21:46
  to
• 21:46
  me
• 21:46
  after
• 21:46
  they've
• 21:47
  asked,
• 21:47
  have
• 21:47
  given
• 21:48
  major
• 21:48
  pushback
• 21:49
  and
• 21:49
  said
• 21:49
  no.
• 21:50
  So
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  tell
• 21:51
  them
• 21:51
  to
• 21:51
  blame
• 21:51
  me,
• 21:52
  blame
• 21:52
  Shira.
• 21:53
  Say
• 21:53
  you
• 21:53
  have
• 21:53
  a
• 21:54
  friend.
• 21:54
  I
• 21:54
  can
• 21:54
  be
• 21:54
  everyone's
• 21:55
  friend
• 21:55
  that
• 21:56
  this
• 21:56
  happened
• 21:56
  to.
• 21:56
  And
• 21:56
  you
• 21:57
  want
• 21:57
  to
• 21:57
  pay
• 21:57
  for
• 21:58
  a
• 21:58
  low
• 21:58
  dose
• 21:58
  ct.
• 21:58
  You
• 21:59
  want
• 21:59
  a
• 21:59
  good
• 21:59
  baseline.
• 22:00
  You
• 22:00
  want
• 22:00
  to
• 22:00
  just
• 22:00
  make
• 22:00
  sure
• 22:01
  everything
• 22:01
  looks
• 22:01
  good
• 22:02
  there.
• 22:03
  Your
• 22:03
  lungs
• 22:04
  are
• 22:04
  have
• 22:05
  nodules
• 22:05
  all
• 22:06
  over
• 22:06
  them
• 22:06
  just
• 22:06
  like
• 22:06
  your
• 22:06
  skin
• 22:07
  freckles.
• 22:07
  So
• 22:08
  it
• 22:08
  is
• 22:08
  not
• 22:08
  bad
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  have
• 22:09
  nodules.
• 22:10
  What's
• 22:10
  bad
• 22:11
  is
• 22:11
  like
• 22:11
  these
• 22:12
  ground
• 22:12
  glass
• 22:12
  nodules
• 22:13
  or
• 22:13
  if
• 22:13
  they're
• 22:13
  really
• 22:13
  big
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  then
• 22:14
  they
• 22:14
  grow
• 22:14
  a
• 22:14
  lot.
• 22:15
  A
• 22:15
  lot
• 22:15
  of
• 22:15
  us
• 22:15
  have
• 22:16
  scarring
• 22:16
  from
• 22:16
  past
• 22:17
  pneumonias
• 22:17
  or
• 22:17
  infections.
• 22:19
  Not
• 22:19
  a
• 22:19
  problem.
• 22:19
  But
• 22:20
  sometimes
• 22:20
  if
• 22:20
  you
• 22:21
  get
• 22:21
  this
• 22:21
  baseline
• 22:22
  scan
• 22:22
  today
• 22:23
  and
• 22:24
  then
• 22:24
  maybe
• 22:24
  you
• 22:24
  follow
• 22:24
  up
• 22:25
  in
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  year
• 22:25
  or
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  couple
• 22:26
  years,
• 22:26
  if
• 22:26
  any
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  those
• 22:26
  have
• 22:27
  grown,
• 22:27
  you
• 22:28
  can
• 22:28
  tell
• 22:28
  and
• 22:29
  you'll
• 22:29
  have
• 22:29
  an
• 22:29
  answer
• 22:29
  more
• 22:30
  quickly.
• 22:30
  But
• 22:31
  the
• 22:31
  low
• 22:31
  dose
• 22:31
  chest
• 22:32
  CT
• 22:32
  today
• 22:33
  is
• 22:33
  our
• 22:33
  only
• 22:34
  option.
• 22:35
  A
• 22:35
  lot
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  research,
• 22:36
  hopefully
• 22:36
  dollars
• 22:37
  will
• 22:37
  go
• 22:37
  into
• 22:37
  the
• 22:38
  lung
• 22:38
  cancer
• 22:38
  side
• 22:38
  too.
• 22:39
  But
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  find
• 22:39
  a
• 22:39
  blood
• 22:40
  test
• 22:40
  that'll
• 22:40
  catch
• 22:41
  it.
• 22:41
  So
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  had
• 22:42
  done
• 22:42
  that
• 22:42
  gallery
• 22:43
  grail
• 22:43
  blood
• 22:44
  test,
• 22:44
  catches
• 22:45
  some
• 22:45
  cancers.
• 22:46
  Mine
• 22:46
  was
• 22:46
  negative.
• 22:47
  It
• 22:47
  was
• 22:47
  done
• 22:47
  a
• 22:47
  couple
• 22:48
  of
• 22:48
  weeks
• 22:48
  before
• 22:49
  my.
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  definitely
• 22:50
  had
• 22:50
  cancer.
• 22:51
  Okay.
• 22:51
  But
• 22:51
  it
• 22:52
  didn't
• 22:52
  it.
• 22:53
  So
• 22:53
  it's
• 22:53
  not
• 22:53
  great
• 22:53
  for
• 22:54
  lung
• 22:54
  cancer
• 22:54
  yet.
• 22:55
  Okay.
• 22:56
  There's
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  lot
• 22:56
  of
• 22:56
  companies
• 22:57
  out
• 22:57
  there
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  are
• 22:57
  trying
• 22:57
  to
• 22:58
  figure
• 22:58
  it
• 22:58
  out
• 22:58
  because
• 22:58
  a
• 22:59
  blood
• 22:59
  test
• 22:59
  would
• 22:59
  be
• 22:59
  amazing
• 23:00
  to
• 23:00
  be
• 23:00
  able
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  catch
• 23:01
  some
• 23:01
  of
• 23:02
  that
• 23:02
  circulating
• 23:02
  tumor
• 23:03
  DNA.
• 23:04
  But
• 23:04
  right
• 23:05
  now
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  only
• 23:06
  thing
• 23:06
  we
• 23:06
  have
• 23:06
  is
• 23:07
  is
• 23:07
  a
• 23:07
  low
• 23:07
  dose
• 23:08
  chest.
• 23:09
  Okay,
• 23:09
  so
• 23:10
  in
• 23:10
  other
• 23:10
  words,
• 23:10
  like
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  full
• 23:11
  body
• 23:11
  MRI
• 23:12
  is
• 23:12
  not
• 23:13
  necessarily
• 23:13
  going
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  catch
• 23:14
  it,
• 23:14
  right?
• 23:15
  Yeah.
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  mean
• 23:16
  an
• 23:16
  MRI
• 23:16
  is
• 23:16
  not
• 23:16
  great
• 23:17
  for
• 23:17
  your
• 23:17
  lungs.
• 23:17
  The
• 23:17
  full
• 23:17
  body
• 23:18
  MRI
• 23:18
  I
• 23:19
  found
• 23:19
  really
• 23:19
  interesting.
• 23:20
  I
• 23:20
  think
• 23:20
  people
• 23:21
  you
• 23:21
  hear
• 23:21
  mixed
• 23:22
  reviews.
• 23:22
  Some
• 23:22
  people
• 23:22
  say
• 23:22
  they
• 23:23
  go
• 23:23
  down
• 23:23
  rabbit
• 23:23
  holes.
• 23:23
  They
• 23:24
  didn't
• 23:24
  need
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  go
• 23:24
  down.
• 23:25
  The
• 23:25
  full
• 23:26
  body
• 23:26
  MRI
• 23:26
  is
• 23:27
  not
• 23:27
  as
• 23:27
  affordable.
• 23:28
  It's
• 23:28
  like
• 23:28
  $2,500.
• 23:30
  But
• 23:30
  I
• 23:31
  find
• 23:31
  it
• 23:31
  interesting
• 23:32
  if
• 23:32
  you
• 23:32
  can
• 23:33
  mentally
• 23:33
  prepare
• 23:34
  that,
• 23:34
  it's
• 23:34
  going
• 23:34
  to
• 23:34
  find
• 23:35
  stuff
• 23:35
  that
• 23:35
  maybe
• 23:35
  isn't
• 23:36
  something
• 23:36
  you
• 23:36
  need
• 23:36
  to
• 23:36
  really
• 23:37
  check.
• 23:37
  But
• 23:38
  if
• 23:38
  you're
• 23:38
  just
• 23:38
  interested
• 23:38
  in
• 23:39
  getting
• 23:39
  your
• 23:39
  lungs
• 23:39
  checked,
• 23:40
  like
• 23:40
  you
• 23:40
  get
• 23:40
  your
• 23:41
  mammogram
• 23:41
  and
• 23:41
  your
• 23:41
  Pap
• 23:42
  smear
• 23:43
  then,
• 23:43
  or
• 23:43
  your
• 23:43
  colonoscopy,
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  can
• 23:44
  just
• 23:45
  do
• 23:45
  a.
• 23:45
  Low
• 23:45
  dose
• 23:45
  chest
• 23:46
  ct.
• 23:46
  And
• 23:47
  how
• 23:47
  often
• 23:47
  is
• 23:48
  it
• 23:48
  recommended?
• 23:48
  Is
• 23:48
  it
• 23:48
  like
• 23:49
  kind
• 23:49
  of
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  once
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  year
• 23:50
  thing
• 23:50
  like
• 23:50
  a
• 23:50
  mammogram
• 23:51
  or
• 23:51
  more
• 23:52
  frequently
• 23:52
  or
• 23:52
  less?
• 23:53
  Right.
• 23:53
  That's
• 23:54
  fair.
• 23:54
  They
• 23:54
  haven't
• 23:54
  done
• 23:54
  that
• 23:55
  much
• 23:55
  research
• 23:55
  on
• 23:55
  it.
• 23:56
  There
• 23:56
  are
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  few
• 23:57
  AI
• 23:57
  companies
• 23:57
  out
• 23:58
  there
• 23:58
  that'll
• 23:58
  read
• 23:59
  your
• 23:59
  scan
• 23:59
  and
• 23:59
  they
• 23:59
  have
• 24:00
  this
• 24:00
  like
• 24:00
  AI
• 24:00
  wrapper
• 24:01
  around
• 24:01
  it
• 24:01
  that
• 24:01
  can
• 24:01
  better
• 24:02
  predict
• 24:02
  if
• 24:02
  you
• 24:02
  need
• 24:02
  to
• 24:03
  come
• 24:03
  back
• 24:03
  in
• 24:03
  a
• 24:03
  year
• 24:03
  or
• 24:04
  six
• 24:04
  years.
• 24:05
  They
• 24:05
  have
• 24:05
  not
• 24:06
  been
• 24:06
  FDA
• 24:06
  approved,
• 24:06
  They're
• 24:07
  not
• 24:07
  really
• 24:07
  readily
• 24:07
  available.
• 24:08
  I'm
• 24:08
  working
• 24:09
  with
• 24:09
  some
• 24:09
  of
• 24:09
  them
• 24:09
  to,
• 24:10
  to
• 24:10
  help
• 24:10
  push
• 24:10
  them
• 24:10
  over
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  line.
• 24:12
  But
• 24:12
  I
• 24:12
  would
• 24:13
  go,
• 24:13
  and
• 24:14
  then
• 24:14
  if
• 24:14
  you
• 24:15
  have
• 24:15
  nothing
• 24:15
  really
• 24:15
  and
• 24:16
  everything
• 24:16
  looks
• 24:16
  okay,
• 24:17
  go
• 24:17
  in
• 24:17
  five
• 24:18
  years.
• 24:18
  You
• 24:18
  know,
• 24:19
  it
• 24:19
  could
• 24:19
  be
• 24:19
  more
• 24:19
  like
• 24:19
  a
• 24:19
  colonoscopy.
• 24:21
  Okay.
• 24:22
  But
• 24:22
  they
• 24:22
  don't
• 24:22
  have
• 24:22
  the
• 24:23
  data
• 24:23
  yet,
• 24:23
  so
• 24:23
  I
• 24:24
  can't
• 24:24
  really
• 24:24
  tell
• 24:24
  you
• 24:24
  100%,.
• 24:25
  Which
• 24:26
  is
• 24:26
  so
• 24:26
  crazy
• 24:26
  because
• 24:27
  I
• 24:27
  feel
• 24:27
  like,
• 24:27
  you
• 24:27
  know,
• 24:28
  I
• 24:28
  mean,
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  had
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  great
• 24:29
  uncle
• 24:29
  that
• 24:30
  passed
• 24:30
  from
• 24:30
  like
• 24:30
  lung
• 24:31
  cancer.
• 24:31
  You
• 24:31
  know,
• 24:31
  like
• 24:32
  lung
• 24:32
  cancer
• 24:32
  is
• 24:32
  not
• 24:33
  a
• 24:33
  new
• 24:33
  disease.
• 24:34
  You
• 24:34
  know,
• 24:34
  it's
• 24:35
  been
• 24:35
  around.
• 24:36
  So
• 24:36
  why
• 24:37
  do
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  think
• 24:37
  it's
• 24:38
  just
• 24:38
  taken
• 24:39
  so
• 24:39
  long
• 24:39
  to
• 24:39
  kind
• 24:40
  of
• 24:40
  bring
• 24:41
  it
• 24:41
  into
• 24:41
  the,
• 24:41
  you
• 24:42
  know,
• 24:42
  into
• 24:42
  the
• 24:43
  consciousness
• 24:43
  of
• 24:43
  people?
• 24:45
  I
• 24:45
  mean,
• 24:45
  I
• 24:45
  think
• 24:46
  a
• 24:46
  lot
• 24:46
  is
• 24:46
  because
• 24:46
  it
• 24:47
  was
• 24:47
  considered
• 24:47
  a
• 24:47
  lifestyle
• 24:48
  choice.
• 24:48
  I
• 24:49
  mean,
• 24:49
  I
• 24:49
  had
• 24:49
  a
• 24:50
  call
• 24:50
  with
• 24:50
  a
• 24:51
  CEO
• 24:51
  of
• 24:51
  a
• 24:51
  major
• 24:51
  national
• 24:52
  insurance
• 24:52
  company
• 24:53
  and
• 24:53
  he
• 24:53
  said,
• 24:53
  why
• 24:53
  should
• 24:53
  I
• 24:54
  scan
• 24:54
  people
• 24:54
  for
• 24:55
  lung
• 24:56
  cancer?
• 24:56
  It's
• 24:57
  a
• 24:57
  lifestyle
• 24:57
  choice.
• 24:58
  And
• 24:58
  I
• 24:58
  was
• 24:58
  like,
• 24:59
  whoa,
• 24:59
  we've
• 24:59
  got
• 24:59
  to
• 25:00
  change
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  narrative.
• 25:00
  It's
• 25:01
  not,
• 25:01
  it's
• 25:01
  not
• 25:01
  a
• 25:02
  lifestyle
• 25:02
  choice.
• 25:03
  The
• 25:03
  other
• 25:03
  side
• 25:03
  of
• 25:03
  it
• 25:04
  is,
• 25:05
  as
• 25:05
  we
• 25:05
  know,
• 25:05
  as,
• 25:05
  you
• 25:06
  know,
• 25:06
  40
• 25:07
  something
• 25:07
  year
• 25:07
  old
• 25:07
  women
• 25:08
  were
• 25:08
  kind
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  on
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  back
• 25:09
  burner.
• 25:10
  And
• 25:10
  it
• 25:10
  is
• 25:10
  a
• 25:10
  female
• 25:11
  health
• 25:11
  crisis.
• 25:11
  So
• 25:12
  men
• 25:12
  can
• 25:12
  also
• 25:12
  get
• 25:13
  lung
• 25:13
  cancer,
• 25:13
  obviously.
• 25:14
  But
• 25:14
  they've
• 25:15
  done
• 25:15
  recent
• 25:16
  studies.
• 25:16
  They
• 25:16
  did
• 25:16
  a
• 25:17
  study
• 25:17
  in
• 25:17
  Taiwan,
• 25:17
  they
• 25:18
  repeated
• 25:18
  it
• 25:18
  in
• 25:19
  New
• 25:19
  York
• 25:20
  and
• 25:20
  it
• 25:20
  found
• 25:21
  that
• 25:21
  the
• 25:22
  Taiwanese,
• 25:22
  Asian,
• 25:23
  never
• 25:24
  smoking
• 25:25
  women
• 25:25
  were
• 25:26
  getting
• 25:26
  lung
• 25:26
  cancer
• 25:27
  at
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  twofold
• 25:28
  increase
• 25:29
  than
• 25:29
  their
• 25:29
  Asian
• 25:30
  male
• 25:30
  counterparts
• 25:31
  that
• 25:31
  smoked.
• 25:32
  Why
• 25:32
  is
• 25:33
  that?
• 25:34
  They
• 25:34
  have
• 25:34
  no
• 25:34
  idea.
• 25:35
  At
• 25:35
  first
• 25:35
  they
• 25:35
  did
• 25:35
  it
• 25:36
  in
• 25:36
  Taiwan
• 25:36
  and
• 25:36
  they
• 25:36
  thought
• 25:37
  it
• 25:37
  was
• 25:37
  cooking
• 25:37
  oils,
• 25:38
  which
• 25:38
  is
• 25:38
  why
• 25:38
  they
• 25:38
  repeated
• 25:39
  it
• 25:39
  in
• 25:39
  New
• 25:39
  York
• 25:40
  where
• 25:40
  no
• 25:40
  one
• 25:40
  cooks.
• 25:41
  And
• 25:41
  they
• 25:41
  found
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  same.
• 25:42
  And
• 25:43
  so
• 25:43
  it's
• 25:44
  a
• 25:44
  female
• 25:44
  health
• 25:44
  crisis.
• 25:45
  Like
• 25:45
  no
• 25:45
  one's
• 25:46
  talking
• 25:46
  about
• 25:46
  it.
• 25:46
  It's
• 25:47
  just
• 25:47
  starting
• 25:48
  to,
• 25:48
  as
• 25:48
  I,
• 25:49
  as
• 25:49
  I
• 25:49
  talk
• 25:49
  about
• 25:49
  it
• 25:50
  today,
• 25:50
  you'll
• 25:50
  start
• 25:50
  noticing
• 25:51
  it
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  little
• 25:52
  bit
• 25:52
  more.
• 25:52
  You'll
• 25:52
  see
• 25:52
  an
• 25:52
  article
• 25:53
  or
• 25:53
  this
• 25:53
  or
• 25:53
  that.
• 25:54
  It's
• 25:54
  just
• 25:54
  at
• 25:55
  this
• 25:55
  inflection
• 25:55
  point
• 25:55
  where
• 25:56
  people
• 25:56
  are,
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  think,
• 25:56
  are
• 25:57
  starting
• 25:57
  to
• 25:57
  pay
• 25:57
  attention
• 25:57
  and
• 25:58
  realize
• 25:59
  that
• 25:59
  it's
• 25:59
  not
• 26:00
  good
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  smoke.
• 26:00
  You
• 26:00
  can
• 26:01
  get
• 26:01
  lung
• 26:01
  cancer,
• 26:01
  but
• 26:01
  it
• 26:02
  is
• 26:02
  not
• 26:02
  an
• 26:02
  only
• 26:02
  smoker's
• 26:03
  disease.
• 26:04
  Right.
• 26:04
  There
• 26:04
  are
• 26:04
  people
• 26:05
  out
• 26:05
  there.
• 26:05
  The
• 26:05
  other
• 26:06
  thing
• 26:06
  I
• 26:06
  found
• 26:06
  reading
• 26:07
  studies
• 26:07
  was
• 26:07
  they
• 26:07
  did
• 26:08
  some
• 26:08
  work
• 26:08
  on
• 26:09
  breast
• 26:09
  cancer
• 26:10
  survivors.
• 26:10
  And
• 26:10
  I
• 26:11
  feel
• 26:11
  like
• 26:11
  I
• 26:12
  have
• 26:12
  so
• 26:12
  many
• 26:12
  peers
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  are
• 26:13
  breast
• 26:13
  cancer
• 26:14
  survivors
• 26:14
  right
• 26:14
  now,
• 26:15
  and
• 26:15
  I've
• 26:15
  spoken
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  a
• 26:16
  lot
• 26:16
  of
• 26:16
  them
• 26:16
  about
• 26:17
  this.
• 26:17
  The
• 26:17
  study
• 26:18
  found
• 26:18
  that
• 26:19
  breast
• 26:19
  cancer
• 26:20
  survivors
• 26:20
  had
• 26:20
  a
• 26:21
  twofold
• 26:21
  increase
• 26:22
  of
• 26:22
  getting
• 26:23
  lung
• 26:23
  cancer
• 26:24
  as
• 26:24
  a
• 26:24
  primary
• 26:24
  cancer.
• 26:25
  So.
• 26:25
  So
• 26:25
  it
• 26:25
  was
• 26:25
  not
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  metastasis
• 26:26
  of
• 26:27
  the
• 26:27
  breast
• 26:27
  cancer.
• 26:28
  It
• 26:28
  had
• 26:28
  nothing.
• 26:29
  They
• 26:29
  held
• 26:29
  constant
• 26:30
  for
• 26:30
  radiation
• 26:30
  and
• 26:31
  chemo,
• 26:31
  but
• 26:31
  they
• 26:32
  found
• 26:32
  that
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  breast
• 26:32
  cancer
• 26:33
  survivor
• 26:33
  should
• 26:33
  be
• 26:34
  getting
• 26:34
  a
• 26:34
  lung
• 26:34
  screen
• 26:35
  because
• 26:36
  their
• 26:36
  chance
• 26:36
  of
• 26:36
  getting
• 26:37
  lung
• 26:37
  cancer
• 26:37
  was
• 26:37
  two
• 26:38
  times
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  average
• 26:39
  person.
• 26:41
  So
• 26:41
  again,
• 26:42
  they're
• 26:43
  not
• 26:43
  covered
• 26:43
  in
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  lung
• 26:43
  screen
• 26:44
  for
• 26:44
  guidelines
• 26:45
  or
• 26:45
  for
• 26:45
  insurance.
• 26:46
  So
• 26:47
  if
• 26:47
  you're
• 26:47
  a
• 26:47
  breast
• 26:47
  cancer
• 26:48
  survivor,
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  should
• 26:48
  talk
• 26:49
  to
• 26:49
  your
• 26:49
  doctor,
• 26:49
  find
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  study.
• 26:50
  You
• 26:51
  can
• 26:51
  read
• 26:51
  about
• 26:51
  it
• 26:51
  in
• 26:52
  my
• 26:52
  book
• 26:53
  and
• 26:53
  tell
• 26:53
  your
• 26:54
  doctor,
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  want
• 26:54
  a
• 26:54
  lung
• 26:55
  scan,
• 26:55
  I'll
• 26:55
  pay
• 26:55
  out
• 26:55
  of
• 26:55
  pocket.
• 26:56
  Because
• 26:56
  they're
• 26:56
  finding
• 26:57
  that
• 26:57
  breast
• 26:57
  cancer
• 26:58
  survivors
• 26:58
  have
• 26:59
  a
• 26:59
  two
• 26:59
  times
• 26:59
  increase.
• 27:00
  And
• 27:00
  that
• 27:00
  is
• 27:00
  not
• 27:01
  fair.
• 27:01
  You
• 27:01
  do
• 27:02
  not
• 27:02
  need
• 27:02
  to
• 27:02
  be
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  person
• 27:02
  who
• 27:03
  survives
• 27:03
  breast
• 27:03
  cancer
• 27:04
  to
• 27:04
  then
• 27:04
  get
• 27:04
  lung
• 27:05
  cancer.
• 27:05
  It's
• 27:05
  not
• 27:05
  fair.
• 27:07
  One
• 27:07
  is
• 27:07
  enough.
• 27:08
  We
• 27:08
  don't
• 27:08
  need
• 27:08
  to.
• 27:09
  Right?
• 27:10
  Well,
• 27:10
  and
• 27:10
  when
• 27:10
  you're
• 27:11
  getting
• 27:11
  these
• 27:11
  low
• 27:11
  dose
• 27:11
  CT
• 27:12
  scans,
• 27:12
  does
• 27:12
  that
• 27:13
  also,
• 27:13
  because
• 27:13
  it's,
• 27:13
  you
• 27:14
  know,
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  lungs,
• 27:14
  like,
• 27:15
  does
• 27:15
  that
• 27:15
  also
• 27:16
  include
• 27:16
  breast
• 27:16
  tissue
• 27:17
  that
• 27:17
  you
• 27:17
  could
• 27:17
  see
• 27:18
  on
• 27:18
  that
• 27:18
  scan?
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  know.
• 27:19
  You
• 27:20
  know
• 27:20
  what's
• 27:20
  crazy,
• 27:20
  Roxy?
• 27:21
  None
• 27:21
  of
• 27:21
  these
• 27:21
  things
• 27:22
  really
• 27:22
  overlap.
• 27:23
  So
• 27:23
  even
• 27:24
  like
• 27:24
  when
• 27:24
  I
• 27:24
  did
• 27:24
  my
• 27:25
  full
• 27:25
  body
• 27:25
  MRI
• 27:26
  over
• 27:26
  the
• 27:26
  summer,
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  thought,
• 27:28
  oh,
• 27:28
  will
• 27:28
  that
• 27:28
  count?
• 27:29
  Because
• 27:29
  I
• 27:29
  do
• 27:29
  a
• 27:29
  breast
• 27:30
  mri
• 27:30
  and
• 27:30
  they
• 27:30
  were
• 27:31
  like,
• 27:31
  no,
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  breast
• 27:31
  MRI
• 27:32
  is
• 27:32
  like
• 27:33
  more
• 27:33
  focused
• 27:33
  on
• 27:33
  the
• 27:34
  breast.
• 27:34
  The
• 27:35
  full
• 27:35
  body
• 27:35
  MRI
• 27:35
  is
• 27:35
  like
• 27:36
  high
• 27:36
  level
• 27:36
  of
• 27:37
  everything.
• 27:37
  Then
• 27:38
  I
• 27:38
  had
• 27:38
  to
• 27:38
  go
• 27:38
  get
• 27:38
  brain
• 27:39
  MRI
• 27:39
  once
• 27:39
  I
• 27:39
  was
• 27:39
  diagnosed
• 27:40
  with
• 27:40
  lung
• 27:40
  cancer
• 27:41
  and
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  said,
• 27:41
  oh,
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  have
• 27:41
  my
• 27:42
  brain
• 27:42
  MRI
• 27:42
  from
• 27:42
  like
• 27:43
  three
• 27:43
  months
• 27:43
  ago.
• 27:43
  And
• 27:43
  they
• 27:43
  were
• 27:44
  like,
• 27:44
  no,
• 27:45
  redo
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  brain
• 27:45
  MRI
• 27:46
  because
• 27:46
  it's
• 27:46
  like
• 27:46
  more
• 27:47
  focused.
• 27:47
  And
• 27:48
  so
• 27:48
  I
• 27:48
  think
• 27:48
  in
• 27:48
  a
• 27:48
  similar
• 27:49
  way,
• 27:49
  like
• 27:50
  a
• 27:50
  mammogram
• 27:51
  machine
• 27:51
  versus
• 27:52
  a
• 27:52
  low
• 27:52
  dose
• 27:52
  chest
• 27:52
  ct,
• 27:53
  even
• 27:53
  though
• 27:53
  it
• 27:54
  is
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  same
• 27:54
  area,
• 27:55
  it's
• 27:55
  just
• 27:56
  like
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  way
• 27:57
  they
• 27:57
  do
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  pictures,
• 27:58
  it
• 27:59
  doesn't
• 28:00
  show
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  same
• 28:01
  Thing.
• 28:01
  Yeah.
• 28:02
  It
• 28:02
  doesn't
• 28:02
  translate
• 28:02
  for
• 28:03
  like
• 28:03
  every
• 28:03
  body
• 28:03
  part.
• 28:04
  And
• 28:04
  I
• 28:05
  know,
• 28:05
  I
• 28:05
  wish,
• 28:05
  because
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  low
• 28:06
  dose
• 28:06
  chest
• 28:07
  CT
• 28:07
  is
• 28:07
  so
• 28:08
  chill,
• 28:08
  less
• 28:09
  than
• 28:09
  a
• 28:09
  minute.
• 28:09
  You
• 28:09
  don't
• 28:09
  get
• 28:10
  undressed,
• 28:10
  you
• 28:10
  lay
• 28:10
  on
• 28:10
  your
• 28:11
  back,
• 28:11
  your
• 28:11
  hands
• 28:11
  over
• 28:11
  your
• 28:11
  head,
• 28:12
  you
• 28:12
  go
• 28:12
  in,
• 28:13
  out,
• 28:13
  in,
• 28:13
  out,
• 28:13
  and
• 28:14
  that's
• 28:14
  it.
• 28:14
  And
• 28:14
  it's
• 28:14
  like
• 28:14
  a
• 28:15
  small
• 28:15
  donut
• 28:15
  machine.
• 28:16
  Oh,
• 28:16
  and
• 28:17
  like
• 28:17
  a
• 28:17
  mammogram.
• 28:17
  I
• 28:18
  just
• 28:18
  had
• 28:18
  one.
• 28:18
  Again,
• 28:18
  that
• 28:19
  is
• 28:19
  not
• 28:19
  joke.
• 28:20
  It's
• 28:20
  like
• 28:20
  painful.
• 28:21
  They're
• 28:22
  like,
• 28:22
  don't
• 28:22
  breathe.
• 28:22
  Suck
• 28:23
  in
• 28:23
  round
• 28:23
  your
• 28:24
  back.
• 28:24
  Hold
• 28:24
  here.
• 28:25
  Don't
• 28:25
  move.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:26
  you're
• 28:26
  like
• 28:26
  naked.
• 28:27
  And
• 28:27
  the
• 28:27
  machine,
• 28:28
  you're
• 28:28
  like
• 28:28
  the
• 28:29
  lady's
• 28:29
  hands.
• 28:30
  You're.
• 28:30
  It's
• 28:31
  not
• 28:31
  fair.
• 28:31
  You're
• 28:32
  like,
• 28:32
  what
• 28:32
  is
• 28:32
  this?
• 28:33
  Why
• 28:33
  can't
• 28:33
  we
• 28:34
  just
• 28:34
  land
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  thing?
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  like
• 28:35
  to
• 28:36
  take
• 28:36
  a
• 28:36
  nap
• 28:36
  in
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  machine.
• 28:37
  But
• 28:37
  no.
• 28:38
  So
• 28:38
  it's
• 28:38
  that
• 28:38
  quick?
• 28:38
  It's
• 28:39
  like
• 28:39
  a
• 28:39
  two
• 28:39
  minute
• 28:40
  process.
• 28:41
  Yeah,
• 28:41
  it's
• 28:41
  actually,
• 28:42
  I
• 28:42
  think
• 28:42
  you're
• 28:42
  laying
• 28:43
  down
• 28:43
  less
• 28:43
  than
• 28:43
  a
• 28:43
  minute.
• 28:44
  Oh,
• 28:44
  my
• 28:44
  gosh.
• 28:44
  It's
• 28:45
  crazy
• 28:45
  how
• 28:45
  fast
• 28:46
  and
• 28:46
  easy
• 28:46
  and
• 28:46
  like
• 28:46
  a
• 28:47
  colonoscopy
• 28:47
  is
• 28:47
  two
• 28:48
  days,
• 28:48
  right?
• 28:48
  You,
• 28:49
  like
• 28:49
  spend
• 28:49
  a
• 28:49
  day
• 28:50
  at
• 28:50
  home
• 28:51
  on
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  toilet,
• 28:51
  right.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:52
  then
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  next
• 28:52
  day
• 28:53
  you
• 28:53
  go
• 28:53
  in
• 28:53
  and
• 28:53
  they
• 28:54
  put
• 28:54
  you
• 28:54
  under
• 28:54
  and
• 28:55
  then
• 28:55
  you
• 28:55
  miss
• 28:56
  work
• 28:56
  for
• 28:56
  two
• 28:56
  days,
• 28:56
  easy.
• 28:57
  Right?
• 28:58
  Right,
• 28:58
  Absolutely,
• 28:59
  absolutely.
• 28:59
  Whereas
• 29:00
  like
• 29:00
  a
• 29:00
  low
• 29:00
  dose
• 29:00
  chest
• 29:01
  CTs,
• 29:01
  it's
• 29:02
  a
• 29:02
  minute
• 29:02
  you
• 29:02
  can
• 29:02
  go
• 29:03
  at
• 29:03
  a
• 29:03
  coffee
• 29:03
  break
• 29:03
  if
• 29:03
  you
• 29:04
  live
• 29:04
  close
• 29:04
  enough
• 29:04
  to,
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  an
• 29:06
  imaging
• 29:06
  service.
• 29:07
  Right.
• 29:07
  So
• 29:08
  how
• 29:08
  do
• 29:08
  we,
• 29:08
  you
• 29:09
  know,
• 29:09
  for
• 29:10
  those
• 29:10
  people
• 29:10
  listening,
• 29:11
  like,
• 29:11
  how
• 29:11
  do
• 29:11
  we
• 29:12
  further
• 29:12
  the
• 29:12
  cause?
• 29:12
  Like,
• 29:13
  how
• 29:13
  do
• 29:13
  we,
• 29:13
  you
• 29:14
  know,
• 29:14
  change,
• 29:14
  Help
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  make
• 29:15
  change,
• 29:16
  essentially?
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  mean,
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  think
• 29:18
  we
• 29:19
  have
• 29:19
  to
• 29:19
  think
• 29:19
  about
• 29:19
  changing
• 29:20
  the
• 29:20
  narrative.
• 29:21
  We
• 29:21
  have
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  talk
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  our
• 29:21
  doctors
• 29:22
  and
• 29:22
  ask
• 29:22
  for
• 29:22
  the
• 29:22
  scans.
• 29:23
  We
• 29:23
  have
• 29:23
  to
• 29:23
  tell
• 29:24
  our
• 29:24
  girlfriends,
• 29:24
  like,
• 29:25
  take
• 29:25
  your
• 29:25
  mom
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  go
• 29:26
  get
• 29:26
  a
• 29:26
  scan.
• 29:27
  Take
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  girlfriend
• 29:27
  to
• 29:28
  get
• 29:28
  a
• 29:28
  scan.
• 29:28
  I've
• 29:28
  been
• 29:28
  doing
• 29:29
  that,
• 29:29
  taking
• 29:29
  my
• 29:29
  friends,
• 29:30
  meeting
• 29:30
  them
• 29:30
  at
• 29:30
  the,
• 29:31
  at
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  imaging
• 29:32
  place
• 29:32
  and
• 29:32
  saying,
• 29:32
  okay,
• 29:32
  and
• 29:33
  they
• 29:33
  go
• 29:33
  in
• 29:33
  for
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  minute,
• 29:33
  come
• 29:33
  out
• 29:34
  and
• 29:34
  they're
• 29:34
  like,
• 29:34
  that's
• 29:34
  it.
• 29:34
  I'm
• 29:34
  like,
• 29:35
  yep,
• 29:35
  bye.
• 29:35
  You
• 29:36
  know,
• 29:36
  we
• 29:36
  make
• 29:36
  it
• 29:36
  like
• 29:37
  a
• 29:37
  thing.
• 29:37
  Go
• 29:37
  get
• 29:37
  a
• 29:38
  coffee
• 29:38
  and
• 29:38
  get
• 29:38
  a
• 29:38
  scan
• 29:39
  and
• 29:39
  ask
• 29:40
  your
• 29:40
  doctors
• 29:40
  and
• 29:40
  educate
• 29:41
  your
• 29:41
  friends
• 29:42
  and
• 29:42
  read
• 29:43
  your.
• 29:43
  Read
• 29:43
  my
• 29:43
  book
• 29:44
  called
• 29:44
  One
• 29:44
  Scan
• 29:45
  Saved
• 29:45
  My
• 29:45
  Life.
• 29:45
  And,
• 29:45
  you
• 29:46
  know,
• 29:46
  talk
• 29:46
  to
• 29:46
  people
• 29:47
  in
• 29:47
  the
• 29:48
  medical
• 29:48
  community
• 29:48
  and
• 29:48
  in
• 29:49
  the
• 29:49
  government
• 29:50
  community
• 29:51
  so
• 29:51
  that
• 29:51
  they
• 29:51
  understand
• 29:52
  that
• 29:52
  we're
• 29:52
  paying
• 29:52
  attention.
• 29:53
  We're
• 29:53
  changing
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  narrative.
• 29:54
  We're
• 29:55
  out
• 29:55
  there
• 29:55
  advocating
• 29:56
  for
• 29:56
  ourselves
• 29:56
  to
• 29:57
  say,
• 29:57
  we
• 29:57
  got
• 29:57
  to
• 29:58
  fix
• 29:58
  this.
• 29:58
  You
• 29:58
  know,
• 29:58
  I
• 29:59
  just.
• 30:00
  It's
• 30:00
  like
• 30:00
  one
• 30:00
  skin
• 30:01
  at
• 30:01
  a
• 30:01
  time,
• 30:01
  one
• 30:01
  woman
• 30:02
  at
• 30:02
  a
• 30:02
  time,
• 30:02
  just,
• 30:03
  you
• 30:03
  know,
• 30:03
  like,
• 30:04
  mammograms
• 30:05
  have
• 30:05
  become
• 30:05
  very
• 30:05
  constant
• 30:06
  in
• 30:06
  our
• 30:06
  lives.
• 30:06
  But
• 30:06
  it
• 30:07
  wasn't
• 30:07
  like
• 30:07
  that
• 30:07
  before.
• 30:08
  It's
• 30:08
  taken
• 30:08
  a
• 30:08
  lot
• 30:09
  of
• 30:09
  work.
• 30:10
  What
• 30:10
  do
• 30:10
  you
• 30:10
  think
• 30:10
  is
• 30:10
  the
• 30:11
  biggest
• 30:11
  roadblock
• 30:12
  right
• 30:12
  now?
• 30:12
  What
• 30:12
  is
• 30:13
  the
• 30:13
  biggest,
• 30:13
  you
• 30:13
  know,
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  thing
• 30:14
  that's
• 30:14
  like
• 30:14
  stopping
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  progress.
• 30:16
  I've
• 30:16
  had
• 30:17
  some
• 30:17
  interesting
• 30:17
  conversations
• 30:18
  recently.
• 30:18
  That's
• 30:18
  fair
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  ask.
• 30:19
  I
• 30:19
  think
• 30:20
  that
• 30:20
  one,
• 30:21
  we
• 30:21
  need
• 30:21
  to
• 30:21
  change
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  guidelines.
• 30:23
  And
• 30:23
  so
• 30:23
  if
• 30:24
  we
• 30:24
  get
• 30:24
  the
• 30:24
  guidelines
• 30:25
  changed
• 30:25
  at
• 30:25
  the
• 30:26
  health
• 30:27
  and
• 30:27
  human
• 30:27
  services
• 30:27
  level,
• 30:28
  which
• 30:28
  I'm
• 30:28
  working
• 30:29
  on,
• 30:30
  that
• 30:30
  will
• 30:30
  cover
• 30:31
  the
• 30:31
  insurance
• 30:32
  that
• 30:32
  will
• 30:32
  force
• 30:33
  Medicare
• 30:33
  and
• 30:33
  Medicaid
• 30:34
  and
• 30:34
  insurance
• 30:34
  to
• 30:35
  likely
• 30:35
  cover
• 30:35
  it.
• 30:36
  So
• 30:36
  I
• 30:36
  think
• 30:36
  that's
• 30:37
  a
• 30:37
  big
• 30:37
  roadblock.
• 30:37
  I
• 30:38
  think
• 30:38
  doctors
• 30:38
  are
• 30:39
  a
• 30:39
  big
• 30:39
  roadblock
• 30:39
  because
• 30:40
  that's
• 30:40
  not
• 30:40
  what
• 30:40
  they
• 30:40
  were
• 30:41
  taught.
• 30:41
  And
• 30:41
  they're
• 30:42
  looking
• 30:42
  for
• 30:42
  a
• 30:42
  smoker.
• 30:43
  They're
• 30:44
  looking
• 30:44
  for
• 30:44
  the
• 30:44
  black
• 30:44
  coal
• 30:45
  lung.
• 30:45
  They're
• 30:46
  looking
• 30:46
  for
• 30:46
  that
• 30:46
  in
• 30:47
  a
• 30:47
  lung
• 30:48
  cancer
• 30:48
  patient
• 30:49
  when
• 30:49
  it
• 30:49
  could
• 30:49
  be
• 30:50
  a
• 30:50
  young,
• 30:50
  healthy
• 30:51
  runner
• 30:51
  with
• 30:52
  four
• 30:52
  kids
• 30:52
  who's
• 30:53
  super
• 30:53
  active.
• 30:54
  So
• 30:54
  I
• 30:55
  think
• 30:55
  it's
• 30:55
  all
• 30:55
  that
• 30:55
  narrative
• 30:56
  changing
• 30:57
  in
• 30:57
  addition
• 30:57
  to
• 30:58
  getting
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  guidelines
• 30:59
  changed.
• 30:59
  In
• 30:59
  order
• 30:59
  to
• 31:00
  get
• 31:00
  the
• 31:00
  guidelines
• 31:00
  changed,
• 31:01
  though,
• 31:01
  I
• 31:01
  think
• 31:01
  we
• 31:01
  need
• 31:02
  a
• 31:02
  groundswell
• 31:03
  of
• 31:04
  young,
• 31:04
  smart,
• 31:05
  healthy
• 31:06
  women
• 31:07
  to
• 31:07
  start
• 31:08
  yelling
• 31:08
  from
• 31:08
  the
• 31:09
  rooftops,
• 31:09
  this
• 31:09
  is
• 31:10
  a
• 31:10
  female
• 31:10
  health
• 31:10
  crisis.
• 31:11
  We've
• 31:11
  got
• 31:12
  to
• 31:12
  get
• 31:12
  our
• 31:12
  lungs
• 31:12
  checked.
• 31:13
  This
• 31:13
  isn't
• 31:13
  fair.
• 31:13
  If
• 31:14
  you're
• 31:14
  a
• 31:14
  breast
• 31:14
  cancer
• 31:14
  survivor,
• 31:15
  you
• 31:15
  need
• 31:15
  your
• 31:15
  lung
• 31:15
  checked.
• 31:16
  If
• 31:16
  your
• 31:16
  family
• 31:16
  history
• 31:17
  of
• 31:17
  lung
• 31:18
  cancer,
• 31:18
  you
• 31:18
  need
• 31:18
  it
• 31:18
  checked.
• 31:19
  You
• 31:19
  know,
• 31:19
  there's
• 31:19
  all
• 31:19
  these
• 31:19
  reasons,
• 31:20
  and
• 31:20
  we're
• 31:20
  just
• 31:21
  saying
• 31:21
  it's
• 31:21
  a
• 31:22
  lifestyle
• 31:22
  disease
• 31:22
  and
• 31:22
  brushing
• 31:23
  it
• 31:23
  under
• 31:23
  the
• 31:23
  rug.
• 31:24
  Yeah.
• 31:24
  You
• 31:24
  know,
• 31:24
  it's
• 31:24
  interesting.
• 31:25
  It
• 31:25
  kind
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  parallels
• 31:26
  like,
• 31:26
  like
• 31:27
  what
• 31:27
  we
• 31:27
  were
• 31:27
  talking
• 31:27
  about
• 31:28
  at
• 31:28
  the
• 31:28
  conference
• 31:28
  with
• 31:28
  the
• 31:29
  menopause
• 31:29
  care
• 31:29
  too.
• 31:30
  It's
• 31:30
  like
• 31:30
  you
• 31:30
  really
• 31:31
  have
• 31:31
  to
• 31:31
  push
• 31:32
  to
• 31:32
  get
• 31:32
  anything
• 31:32
  done.
• 31:33
  When
• 31:33
  you
• 31:33
  feel
• 31:33
  like
• 31:34
  when
• 31:34
  you're
• 31:34
  a
• 31:34
  woman,
• 31:34
  you
• 31:35
  know,
• 31:35
  it's
• 31:35
  like
• 31:35
  our
• 31:36
  health
• 31:36
  is
• 31:36
  just
• 31:37
  not
• 31:37
  in
• 31:37
  the
• 31:38
  past,
• 31:38
  has
• 31:38
  not
• 31:38
  been
• 31:39
  seen
• 31:39
  as
• 31:39
  valuable
• 31:40
  as
• 31:40
  much
• 31:40
  as,
• 31:41
  you
• 31:41
  know,
• 31:41
  men's.
• 31:42
  It's
• 31:42
  like
• 31:42
  we're
• 31:42
  constantly
• 31:43
  having
• 31:43
  to
• 31:43
  fight
• 31:44
  to
• 31:44
  get
• 31:44
  the
• 31:45
  change
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  happen.
• 31:46
  I
• 31:46
  mean,
• 31:46
  I
• 31:47
  think
• 31:47
  when
• 31:47
  you
• 31:47
  look
• 31:48
  back
• 31:48
  to,
• 31:48
  like,
• 31:48
  the
• 31:49
  1950s,
• 31:49
  60s,
• 31:50
  70s,
• 31:50
  they
• 31:50
  talk
• 31:51
  about
• 31:51
  how
• 31:51
  when
• 31:51
  women
• 31:51
  had
• 31:52
  breast
• 31:52
  cancer,
• 31:53
  sometimes
• 31:53
  their
• 31:53
  husbands
• 31:53
  would
• 31:54
  divorce
• 31:54
  them,
• 31:54
  kick
• 31:54
  them
• 31:54
  out
• 31:55
  of
• 31:55
  the
• 31:55
  house.
• 31:55
  They
• 31:55
  thought
• 31:55
  it
• 31:55
  was,
• 31:55
  like,
• 31:56
  contagious
• 31:56
  or
• 31:56
  they
• 31:56
  did
• 31:57
  something
• 31:57
  wrong.
• 31:58
  That's
• 31:58
  not
• 31:58
  the
• 31:58
  case,
• 31:59
  you
• 31:59
  know,
• 31:59
  but
• 32:00
  it
• 32:00
  took
• 32:00
  decades
• 32:01
  of
• 32:01
  pushing
• 32:01
  and
• 32:01
  re
• 32:02
  educating.
• 32:03
  Right.
• 32:03
  And
• 32:03
  now
• 32:04
  we're
• 32:04
  doing
• 32:04
  it
• 32:04
  with
• 32:04
  the
• 32:04
  menopause.
• 32:05
  So
• 32:06
  all
• 32:06
  of
• 32:06
  the
• 32:06
  hormone
• 32:06
  replacement
• 32:07
  therapy.
• 32:07
  I
• 32:07
  feel
• 32:08
  like
• 32:08
  this
• 32:08
  administration
• 32:08
  has
• 32:09
  recently
• 32:09
  come
• 32:09
  out
• 32:09
  and
• 32:10
  been
• 32:10
  like,
• 32:11
  what
• 32:11
  are
• 32:11
  we
• 32:11
  doing?
• 32:12
  Let
• 32:12
  women
• 32:12
  have
• 32:12
  hrt.
• 32:13
  Like,
• 32:14
  let's
• 32:14
  support
• 32:14
  them
• 32:15
  and
• 32:16
  Give
• 32:16
  them
• 32:16
  what
• 32:17
  they
• 32:17
  need,
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  they
• 32:17
  deserve
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  be
• 32:19
  stronger,
• 32:19
  healthier
• 32:20
  women.
• 32:20
  And
• 32:21
  so
• 32:21
  that's
• 32:21
  been
• 32:22
  happening
• 32:22
  and
• 32:22
  I
• 32:22
  think
• 32:22
  helping.
• 32:23
  And
• 32:24
  that
• 32:25
  is
• 32:25
  still
• 32:25
  going
• 32:26
  on.
• 32:26
  And
• 32:26
  now
• 32:26
  we
• 32:26
  need
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  add
• 32:27
  lungs,
• 32:28
  too,
• 32:28
  and
• 32:28
  be
• 32:28
  like,
• 32:28
  this
• 32:29
  is
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  female
• 32:29
  health
• 32:29
  crisis.
• 32:30
  Why
• 32:30
  aren't
• 32:30
  we
• 32:30
  taking
• 32:31
  care
• 32:31
  of
• 32:31
  ourselves
• 32:32
  and
• 32:32
  our
• 32:32
  moms
• 32:32
  and
• 32:33
  the
• 32:33
  women
• 32:33
  in
• 32:33
  our
• 32:33
  lives
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  make
• 32:34
  sure
• 32:34
  that
• 32:34
  they're
• 32:34
  healthy
• 32:35
  and
• 32:35
  strong?
• 32:36
  Are
• 32:36
  there
• 32:37
  any
• 32:37
  women
• 32:37
  that
• 32:38
  should
• 32:38
  specifically
• 32:39
  sort
• 32:39
  of
• 32:40
  be
• 32:40
  on
• 32:40
  the
• 32:40
  lookout
• 32:40
  for
• 32:41
  possible
• 32:42
  dise?
• 32:43
  Yeah,
• 32:43
  I,
• 32:45
  you
• 32:45
  know,
• 32:45
  there
• 32:45
  isn't
• 32:45
  that
• 32:46
  much
• 32:46
  research,
• 32:46
  but
• 32:46
  if,
• 32:47
  from
• 32:47
  my
• 32:47
  research,
• 32:48
  I
• 32:48
  would
• 32:48
  say
• 32:48
  if
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  have
• 32:49
  a
• 32:49
  family
• 32:49
  history,
• 32:50
  you
• 32:50
  should
• 32:50
  definitely
• 32:51
  look.
• 32:52
  If
• 32:52
  you,
• 32:53
  you
• 32:53
  know,
• 32:53
  the
• 32:54
  guidelines
• 32:54
  state
• 32:54
  if
• 32:55
  you
• 32:55
  were
• 32:55
  a
• 32:55
  smoker,
• 32:55
  you
• 32:55
  can
• 32:56
  be
• 32:56
  tested,
• 32:56
  but
• 32:56
  not
• 32:56
  if
• 32:57
  you're
• 32:57
  a
• 32:57
  secondhand
• 32:57
  smoke.
• 32:58
  So
• 32:58
  if
• 32:58
  your
• 32:58
  parents
• 32:59
  are
• 32:59
  big
• 32:59
  smokers,
• 32:59
  you
• 33:00
  should
• 33:00
  probably
• 33:00
  be
• 33:00
  looked
• 33:01
  at.
• 33:01
  If
• 33:01
  you
• 33:02
  quit
• 33:02
  smoking,
• 33:03
  it's
• 33:03
  great
• 33:04
  because
• 33:04
  every
• 33:04
  time,
• 33:04
  every
• 33:05
  year
• 33:05
  you've
• 33:05
  not
• 33:06
  smoked,
• 33:06
  your
• 33:06
  chances
• 33:07
  go
• 33:07
  down
• 33:07
  and
• 33:07
  down
• 33:07
  and
• 33:08
  down,
• 33:08
  but
• 33:08
  you
• 33:08
  should
• 33:09
  still
• 33:09
  be
• 33:09
  checked
• 33:09
  because
• 33:10
  you
• 33:10
  are
• 33:10
  at
• 33:10
  higher
• 33:11
  risk
• 33:11
  than
• 33:12
  if
• 33:12
  you've
• 33:12
  never
• 33:13
  smoked.
• 33:13
  I
• 33:14
  think
• 33:14
  if
• 33:14
  you
• 33:15
  have
• 33:15
  a
• 33:15
  breast
• 33:15
  cancer
• 33:16
  survivor,
• 33:16
  you
• 33:16
  should
• 33:16
  be
• 33:17
  looked
• 33:17
  at.
• 33:17
  And
• 33:18
  then
• 33:18
  I
• 33:18
  think
• 33:18
  you
• 33:18
  should
• 33:18
  think
• 33:19
  about
• 33:19
  your
• 33:19
  workplace,
• 33:20
  where
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  work,
• 33:21
  how
• 33:21
  that
• 33:22
  environment
• 33:22
  is,
• 33:23
  because
• 33:23
  I
• 33:23
  think
• 33:24
  that
• 33:24
  there
• 33:24
  are
• 33:24
  a
• 33:24
  lot
• 33:24
  of
• 33:24
  factories
• 33:25
  or
• 33:25
  plants
• 33:26
  where
• 33:26
  people
• 33:26
  work
• 33:26
  that
• 33:27
  maybe
• 33:27
  have
• 33:27
  toxins
• 33:28
  in
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  air.
• 33:29
  The
• 33:29
  other
• 33:29
  thing
• 33:29
  that
• 33:30
  they've
• 33:30
  realized
• 33:30
  recently
• 33:31
  is
• 33:32
  though,
• 33:32
  smoking
• 33:33
  is
• 33:33
  the
• 33:33
  number
• 33:34
  one
• 33:34
  issue.
• 33:35
  Second
• 33:35
  issue
• 33:36
  is
• 33:36
  radon.
• 33:37
  And
• 33:38
  they're
• 33:38
  finding
• 33:38
  that
• 33:38
  a
• 33:39
  lot
• 33:39
  of
• 33:39
  homes
• 33:39
  have
• 33:40
  radon
• 33:40
  issues.
• 33:41
  So,
• 33:41
  like
• 33:42
  a
• 33:42
  smoke
• 33:42
  detector,
• 33:43
  you
• 33:43
  can
• 33:43
  buy
• 33:43
  this
• 33:43
  little
• 33:43
  machine
• 33:44
  to
• 33:44
  detect
• 33:45
  radar
• 33:45
  in
• 33:45
  your
• 33:45
  home.
• 33:46
  It's
• 33:46
  very
• 33:46
  reasonably
• 33:47
  priced,
• 33:47
  and
• 33:48
  you
• 33:48
  just
• 33:48
  put
• 33:48
  it
• 33:48
  in
• 33:48
  your
• 33:49
  house
• 33:49
  and
• 33:49
  it'll
• 33:49
  tell
• 33:49
  you
• 33:50
  where
• 33:50
  your
• 33:50
  radon
• 33:50
  is
• 33:50
  in
• 33:51
  your
• 33:51
  house.
• 33:52
  If
• 33:52
  your
• 33:52
  radon's
• 33:53
  high,
• 33:53
  all
• 33:53
  they
• 33:54
  do
• 33:54
  is
• 33:54
  they
• 33:54
  put,
• 33:54
  like
• 33:54
  an
• 33:54
  extra
• 33:55
  pipe
• 33:55
  underneath
• 33:56
  your
• 33:56
  house.
• 33:56
  It's
• 33:56
  not
• 33:57
  that
• 33:57
  expensive,
• 33:57
  and
• 33:57
  it
• 33:58
  pushes
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  radon
• 33:58
  out
• 33:59
  and
• 33:59
  you're
• 33:59
  fine
• 33:59
  again.
• 34:00
  So
• 34:01
  there
• 34:01
  are
• 34:01
  certain
• 34:01
  neighborhoods
• 34:02
  and
• 34:02
  cities
• 34:03
  and
• 34:03
  states
• 34:03
  that
• 34:04
  have
• 34:04
  higher
• 34:04
  radon
• 34:04
  than
• 34:05
  others
• 34:05
  and
• 34:05
  certain
• 34:05
  homes.
• 34:06
  And
• 34:06
  that's
• 34:06
  just
• 34:07
  with
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  radon
• 34:07
  detector
• 34:08
  to
• 34:08
  figure
• 34:08
  out
• 34:08
  if
• 34:08
  you're
• 34:09
  at
• 34:09
  a
• 34:09
  higher
• 34:09
  risk
• 34:09
  or
• 34:10
  not.
• 34:10
  Again,
• 34:10
  if
• 34:11
  you
• 34:11
  find
• 34:11
  you've
• 34:11
  been
• 34:11
  living
• 34:12
  in
• 34:12
  a
• 34:12
  house
• 34:12
  for
• 34:12
  25
• 34:13
  years
• 34:13
  and
• 34:13
  it
• 34:13
  has
• 34:13
  really
• 34:14
  bad
• 34:14
  radon,
• 34:15
  you
• 34:15
  should
• 34:15
  get
• 34:15
  your
• 34:16
  lungs
• 34:16
  checked.
• 34:16
  But
• 34:17
  again,
• 34:17
  it's
• 34:17
  not
• 34:17
  going
• 34:18
  to
• 34:18
  be
• 34:18
  covered
• 34:18
  by
• 34:18
  your
• 34:18
  insurance
• 34:19
  because
• 34:19
  it's
• 34:19
  not
• 34:20
  in
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  guidelines.
• 34:21
  Even
• 34:21
  though
• 34:21
  research
• 34:22
  has
• 34:22
  continued
• 34:23
  to
• 34:23
  show
• 34:23
  that
• 34:23
  radon
• 34:24
  is
• 34:24
  the
• 34:24
  number
• 34:25
  two
• 34:25
  reason
• 34:25
  people
• 34:26
  are
• 34:26
  getting
• 34:26
  lung
• 34:26
  cancer.
• 34:27
  Wow.
• 34:27
  And
• 34:28
  what
• 34:28
  about,
• 34:28
  like,
• 34:29
  just
• 34:29
  being
• 34:29
  outside,
• 34:29
  like
• 34:30
  pollution
• 34:30
  in
• 34:30
  the
• 34:31
  air,
• 34:31
  you
• 34:31
  know,
• 34:31
  I
• 34:31
  mean,
• 34:32
  is
• 34:32
  that,
• 34:32
  you
• 34:32
  know,
• 34:33
  you
• 34:33
  and
• 34:33
  I
• 34:33
  both
• 34:33
  live
• 34:33
  in
• 34:34
  big
• 34:34
  cities,
• 34:34
  so
• 34:34
  it's
• 34:35
  like,
• 34:35
  you
• 34:35
  know,
• 34:36
  who
• 34:36
  knows
• 34:36
  what
• 34:36
  we're
• 34:36
  breathing
• 34:37
  most
• 34:37
  of
• 34:37
  the
• 34:37
  time,.
• 34:38
  You
• 34:38
  know,
• 34:38
  I
• 34:38
  mean,
• 34:39
  I
• 34:39
  mean,
• 34:39
  sometimes,
• 34:40
  yeah,
• 34:40
  you
• 34:40
  don't
• 34:41
  know.
• 34:41
  And
• 34:41
  sometimes
• 34:41
  you
• 34:41
  think
• 34:42
  like,
• 34:42
  I
• 34:42
  think
• 34:43
  maybe
• 34:43
  it's
• 34:43
  because
• 34:44
  I'm
• 34:44
  a
• 34:44
  runner.
• 34:44
  I
• 34:44
  mean,
• 34:45
  that
• 34:45
  seems
• 34:45
  crazy,
• 34:46
  but,
• 34:46
  you
• 34:46
  know,
• 34:46
  I
• 34:46
  have
• 34:46
  these
• 34:46
  moments,
• 34:47
  right?
• 34:47
  Attack
• 34:47
  myself,
• 34:48
  it's
• 34:48
  my
• 34:48
  fault.
• 34:49
  Even
• 34:49
  though
• 34:50
  it's
• 34:50
  not
• 34:51
  my
• 34:51
  fault.
• 34:51
  I
• 34:51
  didn't
• 34:51
  do
• 34:52
  anything
• 34:52
  wrong
• 34:53
  that
• 34:53
  I
• 34:53
  intentionally
• 34:54
  or
• 34:54
  anything
• 34:54
  like
• 34:54
  that.
• 34:55
  Just
• 34:55
  like
• 34:55
  if
• 34:55
  you
• 34:55
  have
• 34:55
  breast
• 34:56
  cancer,
• 34:56
  it's
• 34:56
  not
• 34:56
  your
• 34:56
  fault
• 34:57
  that
• 34:57
  you
• 34:57
  have
• 34:57
  breast
• 34:57
  cancer.
• 34:58
  Or
• 34:58
  if
• 34:58
  you're
• 34:59
  going
• 34:59
  through
• 34:59
  menopause,
• 34:59
  it's
• 35:00
  not
• 35:00
  your
• 35:00
  fault
• 35:00
  you're
• 35:00
  going
• 35:01
  through
• 35:01
  menopause.
• 35:02
  You
• 35:02
  should
• 35:02
  just
• 35:02
  do
• 35:02
  the
• 35:03
  best
• 35:03
  thing
• 35:03
  you
• 35:03
  can
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  take
• 35:03
  care
• 35:04
  of
• 35:04
  yourself.
• 35:05
  So
• 35:05
  it's
• 35:05
  not
• 35:05
  my
• 35:05
  fault.
• 35:05
  But
• 35:06
  I
• 35:06
  do
• 35:06
  think
• 35:06
  about
• 35:06
  that
• 35:07
  sometimes.
• 35:07
  I
• 35:07
  think,
• 35:07
  oh,
• 35:08
  it's
• 35:08
  because
• 35:08
  I
• 35:08
  run
• 35:09
  and
• 35:09
  I'm
• 35:09
  like
• 35:10
  breathing
• 35:10
  the
• 35:10
  air.
• 35:10
  But
• 35:11
  I
• 35:11
  grew
• 35:11
  up
• 35:11
  in
• 35:11
  Santa
• 35:12
  Barbara,
• 35:12
  so,
• 35:13
  like
• 35:13
  on
• 35:13
  the
• 35:13
  beaches.
• 35:13
  So
• 35:13
  that's
• 35:14
  like
• 35:14
  salty
• 35:14
  air.
• 35:14
  Is
• 35:15
  salty
• 35:15
  air
• 35:15
  bad?
• 35:16
  You
• 35:16
  know,
• 35:16
  I,
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  live
• 35:17
  in
• 35:18
  Nashville
• 35:18
  now.
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  don't
• 35:19
  even
• 35:19
  know
• 35:20
  if
• 35:20
  this
• 35:20
  air
• 35:20
  is
• 35:21
  that
• 35:21
  bad
• 35:21
  here.
• 35:21
  Right.
• 35:23
  But
• 35:23
  it
• 35:23
  is.
• 35:24
  I,
• 35:24
  I
• 35:24
  lived
• 35:25
  in.
• 35:25
  People
• 35:25
  have
• 35:26
  talked
• 35:26
  to
• 35:26
  me
• 35:26
  a
• 35:26
  lot
• 35:26
  about
• 35:26
  radon
• 35:27
  and
• 35:27
  I,
• 35:27
  my,
• 35:28
  I
• 35:28
  moved
• 35:28
  my
• 35:29
  eldest
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  seven
• 35:31
  different
• 35:31
  states
• 35:31
  before
• 35:32
  they
• 35:32
  turned
• 35:32
  10.
• 35:33
  So
• 35:33
  in
• 35:33
  that
• 35:33
  10
• 35:34
  year
• 35:34
  period,
• 35:34
  we
• 35:34
  lived
• 35:35
  in
• 35:35
  seven
• 35:35
  states.
• 35:35
  So
• 35:36
  even
• 35:37
  if
• 35:37
  I
• 35:37
  had
• 35:37
  a
• 35:37
  high
• 35:37
  radon
• 35:38
  house
• 35:38
  or
• 35:38
  a
• 35:39
  bad
• 35:39
  pollution
• 35:40
  neighborhood,
• 35:41
  I
• 35:41
  don't
• 35:41
  know
• 35:41
  if
• 35:41
  that
• 35:41
  would
• 35:42
  be
• 35:42
  enough
• 35:42
  to
• 35:43
  affect
• 35:43
  me
• 35:43
  personally
• 35:44
  because
• 35:45
  I
• 35:45
  never
• 35:46
  was
• 35:46
  anywhere
• 35:46
  very
• 35:46
  long.
• 35:47
  But
• 35:47
  now
• 35:47
  I've
• 35:47
  been
• 35:47
  in
• 35:47
  Nashville
• 35:48
  over
• 35:48
  four
• 35:48
  years.
• 35:49
  Yeah,
• 35:49
  exactly.
• 35:50
  You're
• 35:50
  like,
• 35:50
  I,
• 35:50
  hopefully
• 35:51
  I'm
• 35:51
  in
• 35:51
  a
• 35:51
  safe
• 35:51
  area.
• 35:54
  So
• 35:54
  what
• 35:55
  about
• 35:55
  general
• 35:56
  cancer,
• 35:57
  family
• 35:57
  history?
• 35:58
  Like,
• 35:58
  not
• 35:58
  even
• 35:58
  necessarily
• 35:59
  lung
• 35:59
  cancer,
• 35:59
  but
• 35:59
  let's
• 36:00
  say,
• 36:00
  you
• 36:00
  know,
• 36:00
  there's
• 36:01
  like
• 36:01
  a
• 36:01
  family
• 36:01
  history
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  breast
• 36:02
  cancer
• 36:02
  or
• 36:03
  stomach
• 36:03
  cancer.
• 36:04
  Like
• 36:04
  you're
• 36:04
  saying,
• 36:04
  like,
• 36:05
  how
• 36:05
  does
• 36:05
  that
• 36:05
  all
• 36:06
  play
• 36:06
  into
• 36:07
  lung
• 36:07
  cancer
• 36:08
  percentages?
• 36:09
  Yeah,
• 36:10
  they
• 36:10
  don't
• 36:11
  have
• 36:11
  that
• 36:11
  many,
• 36:11
  that
• 36:12
  much
• 36:12
  research
• 36:12
  on
• 36:12
  it
• 36:13
  still.
• 36:13
  I
• 36:13
  did
• 36:13
  my
• 36:14
  full
• 36:14
  genome
• 36:15
  sequencing
• 36:15
  about
• 36:15
  five
• 36:16
  years
• 36:16
  ago,
• 36:16
  and
• 36:16
  I
• 36:16
  paid
• 36:17
  extra
• 36:17
  for
• 36:17
  an
• 36:17
  extra
• 36:18
  cancer
• 36:18
  panel
• 36:19
  on
• 36:19
  my
• 36:19
  genes
• 36:20
  because
• 36:21
  my
• 36:21
  mom
• 36:21
  was
• 36:21
  a
• 36:21
  breast
• 36:21
  cancer
• 36:22
  survivor.
• 36:22
  And
• 36:23
  I
• 36:23
  turned
• 36:23
  out
• 36:23
  I
• 36:23
  didn't
• 36:24
  have
• 36:24
  any
• 36:24
  of
• 36:24
  the
• 36:25
  genes
• 36:26
  that
• 36:26
  they
• 36:26
  know
• 36:26
  of
• 36:26
  for
• 36:27
  breast
• 36:27
  cancer.
• 36:28
  I
• 36:28
  had
• 36:28
  a
• 36:28
  slightly
• 36:29
  elevated
• 36:29
  colon
• 36:30
  cancer
• 36:30
  gene
• 36:30
  that
• 36:31
  no
• 36:31
  one
• 36:31
  in
• 36:31
  my
• 36:31
  family's
• 36:32
  ever
• 36:32
  had
• 36:32
  colon
• 36:32
  cancer.
• 36:33
  So
• 36:34
  I
• 36:34
  started
• 36:34
  getting
• 36:34
  colonoscopies,
• 36:35
  but
• 36:35
  it
• 36:36
  really
• 36:36
  showed
• 36:36
  nothing.
• 36:37
  And
• 36:37
  I
• 36:37
  think
• 36:37
  that
• 36:38
  I
• 36:38
  probably
• 36:39
  do
• 36:39
  have
• 36:40
  some
• 36:40
  cancer
• 36:40
  gene
• 36:41
  in
• 36:41
  my
• 36:41
  system,
• 36:42
  but
• 36:42
  they
• 36:42
  don't
• 36:42
  know
• 36:42
  what
• 36:43
  it
• 36:43
  is.
• 36:43
  Yet
• 36:43
  they
• 36:43
  haven't
• 36:44
  found
• 36:44
  it,
• 36:45
  actually.
• 36:45
  Interesting.
• 36:45
  When
• 36:46
  I
• 36:46
  found
• 36:46
  out
• 36:46
  I
• 36:47
  had
• 36:47
  lung
• 36:47
  cancer,
• 36:47
  I
• 36:48
  had
• 36:48
  done
• 36:48
  my
• 36:48
  genome
• 36:49
  sequencing
• 36:49
  at
• 36:49
  Harvard.
• 36:50
  So
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  called
• 36:50
  and
• 36:51
  I
• 36:51
  said,
• 36:51
  hi,
• 36:51
  this
• 36:51
  is
• 36:52
  Shira.
• 36:52
  I
• 36:52
  wanted
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  call
• 36:52
  and
• 36:53
  let
• 36:53
  you
• 36:53
  know
• 36:53
  I
• 36:53
  have
• 36:53
  lung
• 36:53
  cancer.
• 36:54
  And
• 36:54
  the
• 36:54
  geneticist
• 36:55
  was
• 36:55
  like,
• 36:56
  what?
• 36:58
  I
• 36:58
  was
• 36:58
  like,
• 36:58
  well,
• 36:59
  I.
• 36:59
  You
• 37:00
  didn't
• 37:00
  tell
• 37:00
  me
• 37:00
  at
• 37:00
  any
• 37:01
  elevated
• 37:01
  risk
• 37:01
  for
• 37:02
  any
• 37:02
  of
• 37:02
  the
• 37:03
  cancers,
• 37:03
  including
• 37:03
  lung
• 37:04
  cancer.
• 37:04
  So
• 37:04
  I
• 37:04
  want
• 37:04
  you
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  know,
• 37:05
  because
• 37:05
  maybe
• 37:06
  there's
• 37:06
  a
• 37:06
  gene
• 37:07
  you'll
• 37:07
  discover
• 37:07
  one
• 37:08
  day,
• 37:08
  based
• 37:08
  on
• 37:09
  my
• 37:09
  data,
• 37:09
  that
• 37:10
  is
• 37:10
  a
• 37:10
  lung
• 37:10
  cancer
• 37:11
  gene
• 37:11
  or
• 37:12
  cancer
• 37:12
  in
• 37:12
  general,
• 37:13
  elevates
• 37:13
  a
• 37:14
  little
• 37:14
  bit.
• 37:14
  But,
• 37:14
  yeah,
• 37:15
  my
• 37:15
  aunt
• 37:15
  that
• 37:15
  I
• 37:15
  talked
• 37:16
  about
• 37:16
  who
• 37:16
  has
• 37:16
  stomach
• 37:17
  cancer,
• 37:17
  she's
• 37:17
  actually
• 37:18
  not
• 37:18
  a
• 37:18
  blood
• 37:18
  relative.
• 37:20
  Oh,
• 37:20
  my
• 37:20
  dad's
• 37:21
  brother's
• 37:21
  wife.
• 37:22
  But
• 37:22
  I
• 37:22
  feel
• 37:22
  like
• 37:23
  she's
• 37:23
  my
• 37:23
  blood
• 37:23
  relative.
• 37:24
  But
• 37:24
  that
• 37:25
  was
• 37:25
  interesting
• 37:25
  because
• 37:26
  when
• 37:26
  I
• 37:26
  look
• 37:26
  at
• 37:26
  my
• 37:27
  family
• 37:27
  history,
• 37:27
  like,
• 37:28
  there's
• 37:28
  heart
• 37:29
  disease
• 37:29
  and
• 37:29
  things
• 37:29
  like
• 37:30
  that.
• 37:30
  My
• 37:30
  mom
• 37:31
  had
• 37:32
  breast
• 37:32
  cancer,
• 37:33
  but
• 37:34
  her
• 37:34
  mom
• 37:34
  is
• 37:35
  still
• 37:35
  Alive.
• 37:35
  She
• 37:35
  turns
• 37:36
  100
• 37:36
  on
• 37:36
  May
• 37:37
  5,
• 37:37
  and
• 37:37
  she
• 37:38
  doesn't
• 37:38
  have
• 37:38
  breast
• 37:39
  cancer.
• 37:39
  And
• 37:39
  my
• 37:39
  mom's
• 37:40
  sister
• 37:40
  is
• 37:40
  still
• 37:40
  alive
• 37:41
  and
• 37:41
  never
• 37:41
  had
• 37:41
  breast
• 37:41
  cancer.
• 37:42
  So,
• 37:43
  you
• 37:43
  know,
• 37:44
  we
• 37:44
  don't
• 37:44
  know.
• 37:44
  It's
• 37:45
  not
• 37:45
  a
• 37:45
  gene
• 37:46
  like
• 37:46
  BRCA1
• 37:46
  or
• 37:47
  BRCA2
• 37:47
  that
• 37:47
  they
• 37:47
  were
• 37:48
  able
• 37:48
  to
• 37:48
  pinpoint
• 37:49
  for
• 37:49
  our
• 37:49
  family,
• 37:50
  but
• 37:50
  my
• 37:50
  mom's
• 37:50
  really
• 37:51
  the
• 37:51
  only
• 37:51
  one.
• 37:52
  My
• 37:53
  dad's
• 37:53
  family,
• 37:53
  his
• 37:53
  parents
• 37:54
  both
• 37:54
  passed
• 37:54
  away
• 37:54
  at
• 37:55
  97.
• 37:56
  You
• 37:56
  know,
• 37:57
  we
• 37:57
  have
• 37:57
  heart
• 37:57
  disease,
• 37:58
  but
• 37:58
  we
• 37:58
  don't
• 37:58
  have
• 37:58
  a
• 37:58
  lot
• 37:59
  of
• 37:59
  cancer.
• 37:59
  Until
• 38:00
  me,
• 38:02
  that.
• 38:02
  I
• 38:02
  think
• 38:03
  that
• 38:03
  that
• 38:03
  is
• 38:03
  a
• 38:03
  really
• 38:03
  good
• 38:04
  point,
• 38:04
  though,
• 38:04
  for
• 38:04
  people
• 38:05
  listening
• 38:05
  to
• 38:05
  realize
• 38:06
  is
• 38:06
  that
• 38:06
  family.
• 38:07
  It
• 38:07
  doesn't
• 38:07
  always
• 38:08
  mean
• 38:08
  there's
• 38:08
  some
• 38:08
  sort
• 38:09
  of
• 38:09
  family
• 38:09
  history
• 38:09
  or
• 38:10
  what
• 38:10
  have
• 38:10
  you.
• 38:10
  And
• 38:10
  that
• 38:11
  kind
• 38:11
  of
• 38:11
  goes
• 38:11
  along
• 38:12
  with,
• 38:12
  you
• 38:12
  know,
• 38:13
  a
• 38:13
  lot
• 38:13
  of
• 38:13
  cancers,
• 38:14
  is
• 38:14
  that
• 38:14
  you
• 38:14
  don't
• 38:15
  necessarily
• 38:15
  have
• 38:16
  to
• 38:16
  have
• 38:16
  a
• 38:17
  family
• 38:17
  history
• 38:17
  to
• 38:18
  have
• 38:18
  cancer,
• 38:19
  you
• 38:19
  know,
• 38:19
  And
• 38:19
  I
• 38:19
  think
• 38:20
  that
• 38:20
  that's
• 38:20
  the.
• 38:21
  That's
• 38:21
  also
• 38:21
  important
• 38:21
  for
• 38:22
  people
• 38:22
  to
• 38:22
  be
• 38:22
  aware
• 38:23
  of.
• 38:23
  You
• 38:23
  know,
• 38:23
  it's.
• 38:24
  It's.
• 38:24
  There's
• 38:25
  no
• 38:25
  way
• 38:25
  to
• 38:26
  tell,
• 38:26
  really.
• 38:27
  You
• 38:27
  know,
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  lot
• 38:27
  of
• 38:27
  the
• 38:28
  time,.
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  mean,
• 38:29
  that's
• 38:29
  the
• 38:29
  reason
• 38:30
  my
• 38:30
  foundation
• 38:30
  is
• 38:31
  called
• 38:31
  Cancer
• 38:31
  Doesn't
• 38:31
  Care,
• 38:32
  and
• 38:32
  my
• 38:33
  website
• 38:33
  is
• 38:33
  Cancer
• 38:34
  Doesn't
• 38:34
  Care
• 38:34
  dot
• 38:34
  com.
• 38:34
  Because
• 38:35
  Cancer
• 38:35
  doesn't
• 38:36
  care.
• 38:36
  It
• 38:36
  doesn't
• 38:36
  matter
• 38:36
  how
• 38:37
  rich
• 38:37
  you
• 38:37
  are
• 38:37
  or
• 38:37
  how
• 38:38
  poor
• 38:38
  you
• 38:38
  are
• 38:38
  or
• 38:39
  what
• 38:39
  your
• 38:39
  family
• 38:39
  like.
• 38:40
  It.
• 38:40
  Sometimes
• 38:40
  it
• 38:40
  just
• 38:40
  doesn't
• 38:41
  care.
• 38:41
  And
• 38:42
  it's,
• 38:42
  like,
• 38:42
  out
• 38:42
  to
• 38:43
  get
• 38:43
  you.
• 38:43
  And,
• 38:44
  like,
• 38:44
  what?
• 38:45
  So
• 38:45
  sometimes
• 38:46
  when
• 38:46
  I
• 38:46
  get
• 38:46
  really
• 38:46
  upset,
• 38:47
  like
• 38:47
  you
• 38:47
  were
• 38:47
  saying
• 38:47
  before,
• 38:48
  and
• 38:48
  feel
• 38:48
  like
• 38:48
  my
• 38:48
  body
• 38:48
  betrayed
• 38:49
  me,
• 38:49
  and
• 38:50
  I
• 38:50
  have,
• 38:50
  like,
• 38:50
  anger
• 38:51
  issues
• 38:51
  about
• 38:51
  what
• 38:51
  I'm
• 38:51
  going
• 38:52
  through,
• 38:52
  I
• 38:52
  realize,
• 38:52
  like,
• 38:53
  I
• 38:53
  probably
• 38:54
  didn't
• 38:54
  do
• 38:54
  anything
• 38:54
  wrong.
• 38:55
  It's
• 38:55
  just
• 38:55
  like
• 38:55
  cancer
• 38:56
  doesn't
• 38:56
  care.
• 38:56
  It
• 38:56
  doesn't
• 38:57
  care.
• 38:58
  I'm
• 38:58
  just
• 38:58
  lucky
• 38:59
  that
• 38:59
  I
• 38:59
  got
• 38:59
  that
• 38:59
  scan
• 39:00
  that
• 39:00
  I
• 39:00
  paid
• 39:00
  out
• 39:00
  of
• 39:00
  pocket,
• 39:01
  that
• 39:01
  I
• 39:01
  had
• 39:01
  this,
• 39:01
  like,
• 39:01
  moment
• 39:02
  of
• 39:02
  like,
• 39:02
  eh,
• 39:03
  I'll
• 39:03
  just
• 39:03
  go
• 39:03
  get
• 39:03
  it
• 39:03
  and
• 39:04
  see
• 39:04
  how
• 39:04
  it
• 39:04
  goes.
• 39:05
  Yeah,
• 39:05
  no,
• 39:05
  absolutely.
• 39:06
  Thank
• 39:06
  goodness
• 39:06
  you
• 39:07
  did.
• 39:07
  You
• 39:07
  know,
• 39:08
  you're
• 39:08
  a
• 39:08
  mom
• 39:08
  of
• 39:08
  four,
• 39:09
  so
• 39:09
  was
• 39:09
  there
• 39:10
  ever
• 39:10
  a
• 39:10
  moment
• 39:11
  when
• 39:11
  you,
• 39:11
  you
• 39:12
  know,
• 39:12
  we're
• 39:12
  kind
• 39:12
  of
• 39:12
  going
• 39:13
  through
• 39:13
  the
• 39:13
  thick
• 39:13
  of
• 39:13
  it
• 39:14
  that,
• 39:15
  you
• 39:15
  know,
• 39:15
  the
• 39:15
  fe
• 39:16
  crept
• 39:16
  in
• 39:17
  and
• 39:17
  you
• 39:17
  kind
• 39:17
  of,
• 39:17
  like,
• 39:17
  took
• 39:17
  off,
• 39:18
  like,
• 39:18
  the
• 39:18
  patient
• 39:18
  hat
• 39:19
  and
• 39:19
  you
• 39:19
  had
• 39:19
  the
• 39:19
  mom
• 39:20
  hat
• 39:20
  on?
• 39:20
  You
• 39:20
  know,
• 39:20
  like,
• 39:21
  was
• 39:21
  there
• 39:21
  ever
• 39:22
  that
• 39:22
  kind
• 39:22
  of
• 39:22
  a
• 39:22
  moment?
• 39:23
  I
• 39:23
  mean,
• 39:24
  that
• 39:24
  moment
• 39:24
  still
• 39:24
  goes
• 39:25
  on.
• 39:25
  So
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  have
• 39:25
  a
• 39:26
  few
• 39:26
  anecdotes
• 39:27
  for
• 39:27
  you.
• 39:27
  So
• 39:27
  when
• 39:27
  we
• 39:27
  were.
• 39:28
  When
• 39:28
  my
• 39:28
  husband
• 39:29
  and
• 39:29
  I
• 39:29
  were
• 39:29
  sitting
• 39:29
  in
• 39:30
  the
• 39:30
  doctor
• 39:30
  and
• 39:30
  they
• 39:30
  told
• 39:30
  me
• 39:31
  that
• 39:31
  I
• 39:31
  had
• 39:31
  lung
• 39:31
  cancer,
• 39:32
  I
• 39:33
  told
• 39:33
  him
• 39:33
  that
• 39:33
  we
• 39:33
  needed
• 39:34
  to,
• 39:34
  like,
• 39:34
  pick
• 39:34
  up
• 39:34
  the
• 39:35
  kids
• 39:35
  from
• 39:35
  school.
• 39:36
  He
• 39:36
  was
• 39:36
  going
• 39:36
  to
• 39:36
  pick
• 39:37
  them
• 39:37
  up.
• 39:37
  I
• 39:37
  was
• 39:37
  going
• 39:37
  to
• 39:37
  meet
• 39:38
  him
• 39:38
  at
• 39:38
  home,
• 39:38
  and
• 39:38
  we
• 39:38
  were
• 39:38
  going
• 39:39
  to
• 39:39
  tell
• 39:39
  the
• 39:39
  kids
• 39:39
  that
• 39:40
  I
• 39:40
  had
• 39:40
  a
• 39:40
  medical
• 39:40
  procedure
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  next
• 39:41
  day
• 39:41
  because
• 39:42
  I
• 39:42
  was
• 39:42
  going
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  be
• 39:42
  put
• 39:42
  under
• 39:42
  general
• 39:43
  anesthesia
• 39:44
  to
• 39:44
  have
• 39:44
  a
• 39:44
  biopsy
• 39:45
  done,
• 39:45
  but
• 39:45
  that
• 39:45
  we
• 39:46
  weren't
• 39:46
  going
• 39:46
  to
• 39:46
  use
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  C
• 39:47
  word.
• 39:47
  That
• 39:48
  was
• 39:48
  my
• 39:48
  plan.
• 39:49
  So
• 39:49
  I
• 39:49
  went
• 39:49
  home,
• 39:50
  he
• 39:50
  drove,
• 39:50
  picked
• 39:50
  up
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  kids,
• 39:51
  drove
• 39:51
  home,
• 39:51
  and
• 39:52
  the
• 39:52
  kids
• 39:52
  walked
• 39:52
  in
• 39:52
  the
• 39:52
  door,
• 39:52
  and
• 39:53
  I
• 39:53
  said,
• 39:53
  hey,
• 39:53
  I
• 39:53
  want
• 39:53
  to
• 39:53
  talk
• 39:53
  to
• 39:54
  you
• 39:54
  guys.
• 39:54
  And
• 39:54
  the
• 39:54
  kids
• 39:55
  looked
• 39:55
  at
• 39:55
  us,
• 39:55
  and
• 39:55
  one
• 39:56
  of
• 39:56
  my
• 39:56
  kids
• 39:57
  said,
• 39:57
  are
• 39:58
  you
• 39:58
  guys
• 39:58
  getting
• 39:58
  divorced?
• 39:59
  And
• 39:59
  the
• 39:59
  other
• 39:59
  one
• 40:00
  said,
• 40:00
  or
• 40:00
  does
• 40:00
  mom
• 40:01
  have
• 40:01
  cancer?
• 40:02
  And
• 40:02
  my
• 40:02
  husband
• 40:03
  and
• 40:03
  I
• 40:03
  froze.
• 40:03
  And
• 40:04
  we
• 40:04
  were
• 40:04
  like,
• 40:04
  why
• 40:05
  would
• 40:05
  you
• 40:05
  say
• 40:05
  that?
• 40:06
  And
• 40:06
  they
• 40:06
  were
• 40:06
  like,
• 40:07
  dad's
• 40:07
  never
• 40:07
  picked
• 40:08
  us
• 40:08
  up
• 40:08
  from
• 40:08
  school
• 40:08
  before.
• 40:11
  Wow.
• 40:13
  Wow.
• 40:14
  So
• 40:14
  that
• 40:15
  opened
• 40:15
  it,
• 40:15
  right?
• 40:16
  So
• 40:16
  then
• 40:16
  the
• 40:16
  C
• 40:17
  word
• 40:17
  was
• 40:17
  on
• 40:18
  the
• 40:18
  table.
• 40:19
  And
• 40:19
  so
• 40:19
  we
• 40:19
  explained
• 40:20
  to
• 40:20
  them
• 40:20
  that
• 40:20
  I'd
• 40:21
  had
• 40:21
  a
• 40:21
  scan
• 40:21
  that
• 40:22
  morning
• 40:22
  after
• 40:22
  my
• 40:22
  run
• 40:23
  and
• 40:23
  that
• 40:23
  they
• 40:23
  thought
• 40:24
  maybe
• 40:24
  it
• 40:24
  was
• 40:24
  cancer,
• 40:25
  but
• 40:25
  maybe
• 40:25
  it
• 40:25
  wasn't.
• 40:26
  And
• 40:26
  I
• 40:26
  was
• 40:26
  having
• 40:27
  a
• 40:27
  bronchoscopy
• 40:27
  the
• 40:28
  next
• 40:28
  day
• 40:28
  to
• 40:28
  have
• 40:29
  a
• 40:30
  biopsy
• 40:30
  done
• 40:30
  of
• 40:30
  the
• 40:30
  tumor.
• 40:31
  And
• 40:31
  so
• 40:32
  my
• 40:32
  son
• 40:32
  said,
• 40:32
  well,
• 40:33
  what
• 40:33
  are
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  chances
• 40:34
  that
• 40:34
  it
• 40:35
  is
• 40:35
  cancer?
• 40:36
  And
• 40:36
  I
• 40:36
  think
• 40:37
  he
• 40:37
  was
• 40:37
  hoping
• 40:37
  I'd
• 40:37
  say
• 40:37
  1
• 40:38
  or
• 40:38
  2%.
• 40:39
  And
• 40:39
  we
• 40:40
  said,
• 40:40
  the
• 40:40
  doctor
• 40:40
  told
• 40:41
  us
• 40:41
  it
• 40:41
  was
• 40:41
  90%
• 40:42
  chance
• 40:42
  it
• 40:43
  was
• 40:43
  cancer.
• 40:44
  And
• 40:44
  then
• 40:44
  my
• 40:44
  kids
• 40:44
  all
• 40:45
  laughed.
• 40:46
  They
• 40:46
  laughed,
• 40:47
  and
• 40:47
  I
• 40:47
  think
• 40:47
  they
• 40:48
  thought
• 40:48
  it
• 40:48
  was
• 40:48
  gonna
• 40:48
  be
• 40:49
  one
• 40:49
  or
• 40:49
  two.
• 40:49
  And
• 40:49
  it
• 40:49
  was
• 40:50
  like
• 40:50
  this
• 40:50
  moment
• 40:50
  where
• 40:51
  we're
• 40:51
  all
• 40:51
  on
• 40:51
  the
• 40:51
  couch
• 40:51
  telling
• 40:52
  them
• 40:52
  that
• 40:52
  their
• 40:52
  mom
• 40:52
  has
• 40:53
  cancer.
• 40:53
  And
• 40:53
  they
• 40:54
  giggled.
• 40:55
  And
• 40:55
  I
• 40:55
  was
• 40:55
  like,
• 40:57
  but
• 40:57
  I
• 40:57
  think
• 40:58
  it
• 40:58
  kind
• 40:58
  of
• 40:58
  broke
• 40:58
  the
• 40:58
  ice.
• 40:59
  And
• 40:59
  you're
• 40:59
  like,
• 41:00
  okay.
• 41:01
  And
• 41:01
  then,
• 41:02
  you
• 41:02
  know,
• 41:02
  it
• 41:02
  was
• 41:02
  a
• 41:02
  tough
• 41:02
  couple
• 41:03
  of
• 41:03
  weeks
• 41:03
  with
• 41:03
  surgery
• 41:03
  and
• 41:04
  recovery
• 41:04
  and
• 41:04
  all
• 41:04
  of
• 41:05
  this.
• 41:06
  And
• 41:07
  now
• 41:07
  I
• 41:08
  wrote
• 41:08
  my
• 41:08
  book.
• 41:08
  I'm
• 41:09
  on
• 41:09
  book
• 41:09
  tour.
• 41:09
  As
• 41:10
  I
• 41:10
  go
• 41:10
  on
• 41:10
  the
• 41:10
  news,
• 41:10
  I'm
• 41:11
  trying
• 41:11
  to,
• 41:11
  you
• 41:11
  know,
• 41:11
  teach
• 41:12
  people
• 41:12
  and
• 41:12
  raise
• 41:13
  awareness
• 41:13
  about
• 41:13
  lung
• 41:14
  cancer.
• 41:15
  And
• 41:16
  my
• 41:16
  son
• 41:17
  came
• 41:17
  home
• 41:17
  the
• 41:17
  other
• 41:17
  day
• 41:18
  and
• 41:18
  said
• 41:18
  his
• 41:18
  friend.
• 41:19
  He
• 41:19
  overheard
• 41:20
  a
• 41:20
  friend
• 41:20
  of
• 41:20
  his
• 41:20
  speaking
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
  the
• 41:22
  friend's
• 41:22
  father
• 41:22
  about
• 41:23
  how
• 41:23
  their
• 41:23
  mom.
• 41:24
  His
• 41:24
  mom
• 41:24
  has
• 41:24
  cancer.
• 41:26
  So
• 41:26
  I
• 41:26
  said
• 41:26
  to
• 41:27
  my
• 41:27
  son,
• 41:28
  well,
• 41:28
  why
• 41:28
  don't
• 41:28
  you
• 41:28
  talk
• 41:28
  to
• 41:29
  him?
• 41:29
  Why
• 41:29
  don't
• 41:29
  you
• 41:29
  say,
• 41:30
  you
• 41:30
  know,
• 41:30
  you're
• 41:31
  here
• 41:31
  if
• 41:31
  he
• 41:31
  wants
• 41:31
  to
• 41:32
  talk
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  anyone
• 41:32
  that
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  understand,
• 41:33
  because
• 41:33
  your
• 41:33
  mom
• 41:34
  has
• 41:34
  cancer.
• 41:36
  And
• 41:36
  he
• 41:36
  said,
• 41:37
  mom,
• 41:37
  that
• 41:37
  is
• 41:38
  so
• 41:38
  embarrassing.
• 41:39
  You
• 41:40
  do
• 41:40
  not
• 41:40
  have
• 41:41
  real
• 41:41
  cancer.
• 41:43
  I
• 41:44
  was
• 41:44
  like,
• 41:44
  oh,
• 41:46
  I
• 41:47
  don't.
• 41:47
  And
• 41:47
  my
• 41:47
  husband
• 41:48
  kind
• 41:48
  of
• 41:48
  looked.
• 41:48
  And
• 41:48
  he
• 41:49
  was
• 41:49
  like,
• 41:49
  no,
• 41:50
  you
• 41:50
  look
• 41:50
  fine.
• 41:50
  You
• 41:51
  do
• 41:51
  not
• 41:51
  have
• 41:51
  real
• 41:51
  cancer.
• 41:51
  You
• 41:52
  kind
• 41:52
  of
• 41:52
  walked
• 41:52
  away
• 41:52
  like,
• 41:52
  I'm
• 41:53
  the
• 41:53
  most.
• 41:53
  Fake
• 41:53
  cancer.
• 41:54
  Yeah.
• 41:55
  And
• 41:56
  what
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  think
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  realized
• 41:57
  talking
• 41:58
  to
• 41:58
  my
• 41:58
  kids
• 41:58
  a
• 41:58
  little
• 41:58
  bit
• 41:58
  more
• 41:59
  and
• 41:59
  understanding
• 41:59
  why
• 42:00
  they
• 42:00
  think
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  have
• 42:00
  fake
• 42:01
  cancer,
• 42:01
  is
• 42:02
  that
• 42:02
  today
• 42:02
  we
• 42:02
  think
• 42:03
  of
• 42:03
  a
• 42:03
  cancer
• 42:03
  patient
• 42:03
  as,
• 42:04
  like,
• 42:04
  bald,
• 42:06
  sick,
• 42:06
  and
• 42:06
  nauseous
• 42:07
  and
• 42:07
  not
• 42:07
  getting
• 42:08
  out
• 42:08
  of
• 42:08
  bed
• 42:08
  and
• 42:08
  not
• 42:08
  doing
• 42:08
  anything.
• 42:09
  And
• 42:10
  so,
• 42:10
  again,
• 42:10
  like,
• 42:10
  I'm
• 42:11
  really
• 42:11
  lucky
• 42:11
  I
• 42:11
  caught
• 42:12
  it
• 42:12
  early
• 42:12
  enough
• 42:12
  that
• 42:12
  I'm
• 42:13
  not
• 42:13
  currently
• 42:14
  sick
• 42:14
  and
• 42:14
  bald
• 42:15
  and
• 42:15
  not
• 42:15
  getting
• 42:15
  out
• 42:15
  of
• 42:16
  bed.
• 42:16
  I'm
• 42:17
  fine
• 42:18
  and
• 42:18
  healthy
• 42:18
  and
• 42:18
  running
• 42:19
  and
• 42:19
  driving
• 42:19
  them
• 42:20
  to
• 42:20
  and
• 42:20
  from
• 42:20
  school
• 42:20
  every
• 42:20
  day
• 42:21
  in
• 42:21
  the
• 42:21
  minivan
• 42:21
  and
• 42:21
  going
• 42:21
  to
• 42:22
  all
• 42:22
  the
• 42:22
  sports
• 42:22
  games
• 42:22
  and
• 42:22
  acting
• 42:24
  like
• 42:24
  I'm
• 42:24
  fine.
• 42:25
  And
• 42:25
  so
• 42:25
  I
• 42:25
  think
• 42:25
  that
• 42:26
  just
• 42:26
  goes
• 42:26
  to
• 42:26
  show,
• 42:26
  again,
• 42:27
  like,
• 42:28
  how
• 42:28
  these
• 42:28
  drugs
• 42:29
  and
• 42:29
  all
• 42:29
  this,
• 42:29
  like,
• 42:30
  make
• 42:30
  people
• 42:31
  think
• 42:31
  cancer
• 42:32
  patients
• 42:33
  are,
• 42:33
  like,
• 42:33
  sick
• 42:34
  and
• 42:34
  dying
• 42:34
  when
• 42:34
  some
• 42:35
  of
• 42:35
  us
• 42:36
  are
• 42:36
  thriving
• 42:36
  and
• 42:37
  we're
• 42:37
  doing
• 42:37
  okay.
• 42:38
  And
• 42:39
  I
• 42:39
  think
• 42:39
  that
• 42:39
  was
• 42:39
  another
• 42:40
  thing
• 42:40
  I
• 42:40
  talked
• 42:40
  to
• 42:41
  some
• 42:41
  of
• 42:41
  the
• 42:41
  people
• 42:41
  in
• 42:42
  government
• 42:42
  about
• 42:42
  is,
• 42:43
  like,
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  cold
• 42:43
  capping
• 42:44
  that
• 42:44
  a
• 42:45
  lot
• 42:45
  of
• 42:45
  my
• 42:45
  friends
• 42:45
  have
• 42:46
  successfully
• 42:46
  worn
• 42:47
  during
• 42:47
  their
• 42:47
  breast
• 42:48
  cancer
• 42:48
  treatments.
• 42:49
  And.
• 42:49
  And
• 42:49
  then
• 42:49
  it
• 42:49
  keeps
• 42:49
  their
• 42:50
  hair.
• 42:50
  And
• 42:51
  even
• 42:51
  though,
• 42:52
  you
• 42:52
  know,
• 42:53
  hair
• 42:53
  is,
• 42:53
  like,
• 42:53
  this
• 42:53
  vanity
• 42:54
  thing
• 42:54
  and
• 42:54
  doesn't
• 42:55
  really
• 42:55
  matter,
• 42:56
  I
• 42:56
  think
• 42:56
  as
• 42:56
  a
• 42:56
  woman
• 42:57
  in
• 42:57
  their
• 42:57
  40s
• 42:58
  and
• 42:58
  50s,
• 42:59
  like,
• 42:59
  it's
• 43:00
  so
• 43:00
  much
• 43:00
  of
• 43:00
  our
• 43:00
  identity
• 43:01
  and
• 43:01
  our
• 43:02
  children's
• 43:02
  identity
• 43:03
  of
• 43:03
  us
• 43:03
  that
• 43:03
  I
• 43:04
  think
• 43:04
  my
• 43:04
  children
• 43:04
  were
• 43:05
  spared
• 43:05
  a
• 43:05
  lot
• 43:05
  of
• 43:05
  that
• 43:06
  because
• 43:06
  they
• 43:06
  didn't
• 43:07
  see
• 43:07
  me
• 43:08
  as,
• 43:08
  like,
• 43:09
  a
• 43:09
  sick
• 43:10
  cancer
• 43:11
  patient
• 43:11
  victim.
• 43:11
  They
• 43:12
  saw
• 43:12
  me
• 43:12
  still
• 43:13
  as,
• 43:13
  like,
• 43:13
  the
• 43:13
  strong
• 43:13
  mom
• 43:14
  who
• 43:14
  can.
• 43:14
  Can
• 43:15
  do
• 43:15
  anything
• 43:15
  and
• 43:15
  everything
• 43:16
  for
• 43:16
  them.
• 43:17
  Absolutely.
• 43:19
  How
• 43:19
  do
• 43:19
  you
• 43:19
  look
• 43:19
  at
• 43:20
  life
• 43:20
  now
• 43:20
  after
• 43:20
  this?
• 43:21
  Like,
• 43:21
  on
• 43:21
  the
• 43:21
  other
• 43:21
  side
• 43:21
  of
• 43:22
  it?
• 43:22
  Like,
• 43:22
  does
• 43:22
  it
• 43:22
  change
• 43:23
  your
• 43:23
  perspective?
• 43:24
  Yes,
• 43:25
  I.
• 43:26
  It's
• 43:26
  funny
• 43:26
  because
• 43:26
  I'm
• 43:27
  on
• 43:27
  this
• 43:27
  book,
• 43:28
  you
• 43:29
  know,
• 43:29
  Journey
• 43:30
  Right
• 43:30
  now.
• 43:30
  And
• 43:30
  so
• 43:30
  I
• 43:31
  feel
• 43:31
  like
• 43:31
  I've
• 43:31
  been
• 43:31
  traveling
• 43:32
  and
• 43:32
  gone
• 43:32
  a
• 43:33
  lot
• 43:33
  more
• 43:33
  from
• 43:33
  the
• 43:33
  kids,
• 43:33
  which
• 43:34
  is
• 43:34
  hard
• 43:34
  for
• 43:34
  me,
• 43:35
  so
• 43:35
  my
• 43:35
  guilt
• 43:36
  is
• 43:36
  up
• 43:36
  on
• 43:36
  that.
• 43:37
  But
• 43:37
  I
• 43:37
  do.
• 43:38
  I
• 43:38
  feel
• 43:38
  like
• 43:39
  you
• 43:39
  only
• 43:39
  live
• 43:39
  once.
• 43:40
  Like,
• 43:40
  fear
• 43:40
  of
• 43:41
  missing
• 43:41
  out.
• 43:41
  I
• 43:41
  want
• 43:41
  to
• 43:42
  say
• 43:42
  yes
• 43:42
  to
• 43:42
  everything.
• 43:43
  I
• 43:43
  run
• 43:43
  around.
• 43:43
  I.
• 43:44
  When
• 43:45
  I
• 43:45
  go
• 43:45
  for
• 43:45
  my
• 43:45
  runs,
• 43:46
  I
• 43:46
  feel,
• 43:46
  like,
• 43:47
  really
• 43:47
  good
• 43:47
  and,
• 43:48
  like,
• 43:48
  proud.
• 43:49
  When
• 43:49
  I'm
• 43:49
  running,
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  try
• 43:50
  to
• 43:51
  exercise.
• 43:51
  You
• 43:51
  know,
• 43:51
  I
• 43:51
  still
• 43:52
  exercise
• 43:52
  every
• 43:52
  day.
• 43:53
  I
• 43:53
  feel
• 43:54
  really
• 43:54
  good.
• 43:54
  I
• 43:54
  feel
• 43:55
  like
• 43:55
  I'm
• 43:55
  out
• 43:55
  there.
• 43:56
  I
• 43:56
  saved
• 43:56
  my
• 43:57
  life,
• 43:57
  and
• 43:57
  I
• 43:57
  just
• 43:57
  want
• 43:57
  to
• 43:57
  save
• 43:58
  other
• 43:58
  people's
• 43:58
  lives.
• 43:58
  It's
• 43:59
  given
• 43:59
  me
• 43:59
  a
• 43:59
  new
• 43:59
  lease
• 44:00
  on
• 44:00
  life.
• 44:00
  I
• 44:00
  have,
• 44:01
  like,
• 44:01
  this
• 44:01
  new
• 44:02
  passion
• 44:02
  and
• 44:03
  drive
• 44:03
  and
• 44:03
  focus
• 44:04
  that
• 44:04
  I
• 44:05
  never
• 44:05
  had
• 44:05
  had
• 44:05
  before.
• 44:06
  And
• 44:07
  I
• 44:08
  want
• 44:08
  my
• 44:09
  kids
• 44:09
  to
• 44:09
  see
• 44:09
  me
• 44:10
  doing
• 44:10
  it
• 44:10
  and
• 44:10
  being.
• 44:11
  And
• 44:11
  be
• 44:11
  proud
• 44:11
  of
• 44:12
  me
• 44:12
  for
• 44:12
  working
• 44:12
  hard
• 44:12
  on
• 44:13
  it
• 44:13
  also.
• 44:14
  And,
• 44:14
  you
• 44:15
  know,
• 44:15
  I
• 44:15
  was
• 44:15
  in
• 44:15
  a
• 44:16
  dark
• 44:16
  place
• 44:16
  when
• 44:16
  they
• 44:17
  first
• 44:17
  told
• 44:17
  me.
• 44:17
  I
• 44:17
  mean,
• 44:18
  I
• 44:18
  remember
• 44:18
  some
• 44:18
  funny
• 44:18
  stories.
• 44:19
  Like,
• 44:19
  I
• 44:20
  turned
• 44:20
  to
• 44:20
  my
• 44:20
  husband,
• 44:20
  and
• 44:21
  I
• 44:21
  said,
• 44:21
  I
• 44:21
  want
• 44:21
  you
• 44:21
  to
• 44:22
  remarry
• 44:22
  when
• 44:23
  I
• 44:23
  die,
• 44:23
  but
• 44:24
  you
• 44:24
  can't
• 44:24
  have
• 44:24
  more
• 44:25
  kids.
• 44:25
  He
• 44:25
  was
• 44:25
  like,
• 44:26
  what
• 44:26
  are
• 44:26
  you
• 44:26
  talking
• 44:27
  about?
• 44:27
  I
• 44:27
  was
• 44:27
  like,
• 44:28
  if
• 44:28
  you
• 44:28
  have
• 44:29
  another
• 44:29
  kid,
• 44:29
  then
• 44:30
  the
• 44:30
  new
• 44:30
  wife
• 44:30
  will
• 44:31
  not
• 44:31
  pay
• 44:31
  attention
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  our
• 44:32
  four
• 44:32
  kids,
• 44:32
  so
• 44:33
  you
• 44:33
  can
• 44:33
  get
• 44:33
  married,
• 44:34
  but
• 44:35
  you
• 44:35
  can't
• 44:35
  have
• 44:35
  more
• 44:35
  kids.
• 44:35
  And
• 44:36
  he
• 44:36
  was
• 44:36
  like,
• 44:37
  you're
• 44:37
  crazy.
• 44:37
  You're
• 44:37
  not
• 44:38
  going
• 44:38
  anywhere.
• 44:38
  Right?
• 44:38
  You,
• 44:39
  like,
• 44:39
  get
• 44:39
  in
• 44:39
  all
• 44:39
  these
• 44:39
  things.
• 44:40
  Right?
• 44:40
  Like,
• 44:41
  it
• 44:41
  makes
• 44:42
  me
• 44:42
  want
• 44:42
  to,
• 44:42
  like,
• 44:43
  be
• 44:43
  with
• 44:43
  the
• 44:43
  kids
• 44:44
  all
• 44:44
  the
• 44:44
  time
• 44:44
  and
• 44:44
  travel
• 44:45
  and
• 44:45
  see
• 44:45
  my
• 44:45
  friends
• 44:45
  and
• 44:46
  just
• 44:46
  say
• 44:46
  yes
• 44:46
  to
• 44:47
  everything,
• 44:47
  which
• 44:47
  also
• 44:48
  makes
• 44:48
  me
• 44:48
  have
• 44:48
  guilt
• 44:49
  because
• 44:49
  I'm,
• 44:49
  like,
• 44:49
  running
• 44:49
  around
• 44:50
  like
• 44:50
  a
• 44:50
  lunatic.
• 44:50
  So
• 44:50
  hopefully
• 44:51
  it'll
• 44:51
  calm
• 44:52
  me
• 44:52
  down
• 44:52
  a
• 44:52
  little
• 44:53
  bit.
• 44:53
  But
• 44:54
  I
• 44:54
  do.
• 44:54
  I
• 44:55
  mean,
• 44:55
  I've
• 44:55
  always
• 44:56
  kind
• 44:56
  of
• 44:56
  had,
• 44:56
  like,
• 44:56
  a
• 44:57
  big,
• 44:57
  high
• 44:57
  energy
• 44:58
  level
• 44:58
  in
• 44:59
  life,
• 44:59
  but
• 44:59
  now
• 45:00
  I
• 45:00
  feel
• 45:00
  like
• 45:00
  it's
• 45:00
  even
• 45:01
  more
• 45:01
  so.
• 45:01
  And
• 45:01
  I
• 45:01
  just
• 45:02
  try
• 45:02
  to
• 45:02
  smile
• 45:03
  all
• 45:03
  the
• 45:03
  time
• 45:03
  and
• 45:04
  tell
• 45:04
  people
• 45:05
  how
• 45:06
  great
• 45:06
  they
• 45:06
  are
• 45:06
  and
• 45:07
  tell
• 45:07
  people
• 45:07
  how
• 45:07
  much
• 45:07
  I
• 45:08
  appreciate
• 45:08
  them
• 45:08
  and
• 45:08
  tell
• 45:09
  them
• 45:09
  how
• 45:09
  beautiful
• 45:09
  they
• 45:09
  are.
• 45:10
  Because
• 45:10
  sometimes
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  don't
• 45:11
  realize
• 45:11
  it,
• 45:11
  but
• 45:11
  you
• 45:11
  take
• 45:11
  it
• 45:12
  for
• 45:12
  granted.
• 45:13
  Absolutely.
• 45:15
  What
• 45:16
  kind
• 45:16
  of
• 45:16
  change
• 45:16
  would
• 45:16
  you
• 45:17
  like
• 45:17
  to
• 45:17
  see
• 45:17
  happen
• 45:17
  in
• 45:17
  the
• 45:18
  next
• 45:18
  five
• 45:18
  years
• 45:18
  when
• 45:19
  it
• 45:19
  comes
• 45:19
  to
• 45:19
  lung
• 45:20
  cancer?
• 45:20
  I
• 45:21
  would
• 45:21
  love
• 45:21
  the
• 45:22
  guidelines
• 45:22
  to
• 45:22
  be
• 45:22
  changed,
• 45:23
  and
• 45:23
  with
• 45:23
  the
• 45:23
  guidelines,
• 45:24
  I
• 45:24
  would
• 45:24
  love
• 45:24
  it
• 45:25
  to
• 45:25
  trickle
• 45:25
  down
• 45:25
  for
• 45:25
  Medicare,
• 45:26
  Medicaid,
• 45:26
  and
• 45:26
  insurance
• 45:27
  so
• 45:27
  people
• 45:27
  can
• 45:28
  get
• 45:28
  their
• 45:28
  lungs
• 45:28
  scanned
• 45:29
  and
• 45:29
  it
• 45:29
  can
• 45:29
  be
• 45:30
  caught
• 45:30
  early
• 45:31
  and
• 45:31
  they
• 45:31
  can
• 45:31
  be
• 45:32
  a
• 45:32
  lung
• 45:32
  cancer
• 45:32
  survivor
• 45:33
  like
• 45:33
  me.
• 45:33
  That
• 45:34
  would
• 45:34
  warm
• 45:34
  my
• 45:35
  heart.
• 45:35
  Because
• 45:35
  right
• 45:35
  now,
• 45:36
  Roxy,
• 45:36
  to
• 45:36
  be
• 45:37
  honest,
• 45:37
  it's
• 45:37
  hard
• 45:37
  for
• 45:37
  me
• 45:38
  to
• 45:38
  find
• 45:38
  lung
• 45:38
  cancer
• 45:38
  survivor
• 45:39
  peers.
• 45:40
  Really?
• 45:41
  Yeah.
• 45:42
  Is
• 45:42
  it
• 45:42
  just.
• 45:42
  There
• 45:43
  aren't
• 45:43
  many
• 45:43
  of
• 45:43
  us.
• 45:43
  Yeah,
• 45:44
  I'm
• 45:44
  joining
• 45:44
  the
• 45:44
  breast
• 45:45
  cancer
• 45:45
  survivor
• 45:46
  crew.
• 45:46
  I'm
• 45:46
  always
• 45:46
  like,
• 45:46
  we're
• 45:47
  cancer
• 45:47
  survivors.
• 45:47
  I'm
• 45:47
  in
• 45:48
  your
• 45:48
  crew.
• 45:48
  I'm
• 45:48
  in
• 45:48
  your
• 45:48
  crew.
• 45:49
  I
• 45:49
  think
• 45:50
  because
• 45:50
  by
• 45:50
  the
• 45:50
  time
• 45:51
  lung
• 45:51
  cancer
• 45:51
  is
• 45:51
  found,
• 45:52
  it's
• 45:52
  too
• 45:52
  late.
• 45:53
  And
• 45:53
  so
• 45:53
  it's
• 45:54
  really
• 45:54
  hard
• 45:54
  to
• 45:55
  find
• 45:56
  other
• 45:56
  young,
• 45:57
  healthy
• 45:57
  women
• 45:58
  that
• 45:58
  are
• 45:58
  beating
• 45:58
  it
• 45:59
  because
• 45:59
  it's
• 45:59
  caught
• 45:59
  too
• 46:00
  late.
• 46:00
  Gosh.
• 46:00
  Is
• 46:01
  it
• 46:01
  more
• 46:01
  aggressive,
• 46:02
  like
• 46:02
  the
• 46:02
  younger
• 46:03
  you
• 46:03
  find
• 46:03
  it,
• 46:03
  or
• 46:04
  is
• 46:05
  there
• 46:05
  no,
• 46:05
  like,
• 46:05
  real
• 46:05
  correlation
• 46:06
  with
• 46:06
  that?
• 46:06
  Okay,
• 46:07
  yeah,
• 46:08
  that's
• 46:08
  not.
• 46:09
  If
• 46:10
  you
• 46:10
  find
• 46:10
  it
• 46:10
  before
• 46:10
  it's
• 46:11
  spread
• 46:11
  to
• 46:11
  your
• 46:11
  lymph
• 46:11
  nodes,
• 46:12
  you're
• 46:12
  in
• 46:12
  better
• 46:12
  shape
• 46:12
  than
• 46:13
  if
• 46:13
  you
• 46:13
  find
• 46:13
  it
• 46:13
  after.
• 46:14
  Right.
• 46:14
  Which
• 46:14
  is
• 46:14
  a
• 46:14
  lot
• 46:14
  of
• 46:15
  cancers,
• 46:15
  but
• 46:15
  this
• 46:15
  one
• 46:16
  specifically.
• 46:16
  And
• 46:17
  because
• 46:18
  we
• 46:18
  don't
• 46:18
  have
• 46:18
  that
• 46:19
  many
• 46:19
  drugs
• 46:19
  for
• 46:19
  it
• 46:19
  yet.
• 46:20
  Okay.
• 46:21
  So
• 46:21
  that's
• 46:21
  got
• 46:21
  to
• 46:22
  be
• 46:22
  part
• 46:22
  of
• 46:22
  the
• 46:22
  changes,
• 46:23
  like
• 46:23
  the
• 46:23
  drugs
• 46:23
  and
• 46:23
  the
• 46:24
  research
• 46:24
  and.
• 46:24
  Yeah,
• 46:26
  the
• 46:26
  narrative.
• 46:26
  Right,
• 46:27
  Changing
• 46:27
  the
• 46:27
  narrative.
• 46:28
  I
• 46:28
  mean,
• 46:28
  is
• 46:28
  there
• 46:29
  active
• 46:30
  research
• 46:30
  being
• 46:31
  done
• 46:31
  right
• 46:31
  now
• 46:32
  in
• 46:32
  the
• 46:32
  way
• 46:32
  that
• 46:32
  you
• 46:33
  would
• 46:33
  like
• 46:33
  to
• 46:33
  see?
• 46:34
  Okay,
• 46:34
  there
• 46:35
  is,
• 46:35
  and
• 46:35
  there's
• 46:35
  a
• 46:35
  lot
• 46:35
  of
• 46:35
  new
• 46:36
  foundations
• 46:36
  that
• 46:36
  are
• 46:37
  popping
• 46:37
  up,
• 46:37
  looking
• 46:37
  to
• 46:37
  do
• 46:38
  even
• 46:38
  more.
• 46:39
  So
• 46:39
  my
• 46:40
  forward
• 46:40
  was
• 46:40
  written
• 46:40
  by
• 46:41
  Ann
• 46:41
  Wojcicki.
• 46:42
  In
• 46:42
  my
• 46:42
  book,
• 46:42
  Ann's
• 46:43
  sister
• 46:44
  Susan
• 46:45
  passed
• 46:45
  away
• 46:45
  of
• 46:45
  lung
• 46:46
  cancer
• 46:46
  in
• 46:46
  August
• 46:46
  of
• 46:47
  2024.
• 46:48
  Susan
• 46:48
  was
• 46:49
  the
• 46:49
  CEO
• 46:49
  of
• 46:49
  YouTube.
• 46:50
  She
• 46:50
  was
• 46:50
  the
• 46:50
  mother
• 46:51
  of
• 46:51
  five.
• 46:52
  She
• 46:52
  was
• 46:52
  very
• 46:52
  active
• 46:53
  and
• 46:54
  ate
• 46:54
  out
• 46:54
  of
• 46:54
  the
• 46:54
  fridge
• 46:54
  and
• 46:55
  did
• 46:55
  all
• 46:55
  the
• 46:55
  right
• 46:55
  things.
• 46:56
  And
• 46:57
  her
• 46:57
  hip
• 46:57
  hurt,
• 46:58
  like
• 46:58
  I'd
• 46:58
  said
• 46:58
  earlier
• 46:59
  when
• 46:59
  she
• 46:59
  was
• 46:59
  on
• 46:59
  a
• 46:59
  run,
• 47:00
  and
• 47:00
  she
• 47:00
  kind
• 47:00
  of
• 47:01
  ignored
• 47:01
  it
• 47:02
  for
• 47:02
  a
• 47:02
  little
• 47:02
  bit
• 47:02
  and
• 47:02
  then
• 47:02
  ultimately
• 47:03
  went
• 47:03
  in
• 47:03
  and
• 47:03
  it
• 47:04
  was
• 47:04
  lung
• 47:04
  cancer
• 47:04
  that
• 47:05
  had
• 47:05
  spread
• 47:05
  all
• 47:05
  over
• 47:05
  her
• 47:06
  body.
• 47:06
  Oh,
• 47:06
  my
• 47:07
  God.
• 47:07
  And
• 47:08
  watching
• 47:08
  that
• 47:09
  family,
• 47:10
  because
• 47:10
  I've
• 47:10
  known
• 47:10
  them
• 47:11
  since
• 47:11
  my
• 47:11
  early
• 47:11
  20s,
• 47:12
  just
• 47:12
  spiral
• 47:13
  as
• 47:13
  any
• 47:14
  family
• 47:14
  would,
• 47:14
  was
• 47:15
  so
• 47:16
  hard.
• 47:16
  You
• 47:17
  know,
• 47:18
  her
• 47:18
  five
• 47:18
  kids,
• 47:19
  her
• 47:19
  widowed
• 47:19
  husband,
• 47:20
  her
• 47:20
  two
• 47:20
  sisters,
• 47:21
  her
• 47:21
  mom
• 47:21
  and
• 47:22
  dad.
• 47:22
  All
• 47:23
  of
• 47:23
  YouTube.
• 47:23
  Right.
• 47:23
  Where
• 47:24
  would
• 47:24
  YouTube
• 47:24
  be
• 47:24
  if
• 47:25
  we
• 47:25
  still
• 47:25
  had
• 47:25
  Susan
• 47:26
  at
• 47:26
  the
• 47:26
  helm?
• 47:26
  And
• 47:27
  so
• 47:27
  the
• 47:27
  Wojcicki
• 47:28
  other
• 47:29
  sisters
• 47:29
  are
• 47:30
  starting
• 47:30
  a
• 47:30
  foundation
• 47:31
  in
• 47:31
  her
• 47:31
  honor.
• 47:31
  They're
• 47:32
  really
• 47:32
  focused
• 47:32
  on,
• 47:33
  like,
• 47:33
  blood
• 47:33
  tests
• 47:34
  for
• 47:34
  lung
• 47:34
  cancer
• 47:35
  and
• 47:35
  more
• 47:35
  drugs
• 47:36
  because
• 47:36
  there
• 47:36
  was.
• 47:37
  That
• 47:37
  wasn't
• 47:37
  available
• 47:38
  to
• 47:39
  their
• 47:39
  sister
• 47:39
  who,
• 47:40
  you
• 47:40
  know,
• 47:40
  passed
• 47:41
  from
• 47:41
  lung
• 47:41
  cancer.
• 47:42
  And
• 47:42
  so,
• 47:43
  yes,
• 47:43
  I
• 47:43
  think
• 47:44
  in
• 47:44
  five
• 47:44
  years,
• 47:44
  we'll
• 47:44
  be
• 47:44
  in
• 47:45
  a
• 47:45
  much
• 47:45
  better
• 47:45
  place.
• 47:46
  And
• 47:46
  I
• 47:46
  think
• 47:46
  a
• 47:46
  lot
• 47:46
  of
• 47:46
  that
• 47:47
  is
• 47:47
  because
• 47:48
  narrative
• 47:48
  is
• 47:49
  changing,
• 47:49
  but
• 47:49
  I
• 47:49
  think
• 47:49
  we
• 47:49
  need
• 47:50
  to
• 47:50
  change
• 47:50
  it
• 47:50
  more.
• 47:50
  I
• 47:51
  think
• 47:51
  we
• 47:51
  need
• 47:51
  to
• 47:51
  fix
• 47:51
  the
• 47:52
  guidelines,
• 47:52
  and
• 47:52
  I
• 47:53
  hope
• 47:53
  a
• 47:53
  lot
• 47:53
  of
• 47:53
  money
• 47:53
  gets
• 47:54
  in
• 47:54
  there
• 47:54
  so
• 47:54
  that
• 47:54
  we
• 47:54
  get
• 47:55
  the
• 47:55
  blood
• 47:55
  tests
• 47:55
  and
• 47:55
  all
• 47:55
  that.
• 47:56
  Absolutely.
• 47:58
  Turning
• 47:58
  the
• 47:58
  tables
• 47:59
  a
• 47:59
  little
• 47:59
  bit,
• 48:00
  what
• 48:00
  advice
• 48:01
  would
• 48:01
  you
• 48:01
  give
• 48:01
  your
• 48:02
  25
• 48:02
  year
• 48:02
  old
• 48:03
  self?
• 48:03
  And
• 48:03
  what
• 48:03
  were
• 48:04
  you
• 48:04
  like
• 48:04
  at
• 48:04
  25?
• 48:06
  I
• 48:07
  want
• 48:07
  to
• 48:07
  know
• 48:07
  what
• 48:07
  the
• 48:07
  Shira
• 48:08
  was
• 48:08
  like.
• 48:09
  I
• 48:09
  mean,
• 48:09
  I
• 48:09
  was
• 48:09
  probably
• 48:10
  still
• 48:10
  crazy.
• 48:11
  I
• 48:11
  probably
• 48:12
  went
• 48:12
  out
• 48:12
  more,
• 48:12
  danced
• 48:13
  a
• 48:13
  lot
• 48:13
  on
• 48:13
  tables
• 48:14
  and
• 48:14
  had
• 48:14
  a
• 48:14
  really
• 48:14
  good
• 48:14
  time
• 48:15
  all
• 48:15
  the
• 48:15
  time.
• 48:15
  But
• 48:15
  now
• 48:16
  kids
• 48:16
  and
• 48:17
  all
• 48:17
  the
• 48:17
  things,
• 48:19
  I
• 48:19
  have
• 48:19
  my
• 48:19
  moments
• 48:20
  of
• 48:20
  that
• 48:20
  still,
• 48:20
  but
• 48:20
  I
• 48:21
  keep
• 48:21
  them
• 48:21
  under
• 48:22
  wraps
• 48:22
  just
• 48:22
  a
• 48:23
  few
• 48:23
  times
• 48:23
  a
• 48:23
  year.
• 48:23
  They
• 48:24
  pop
• 48:24
  out.
• 48:25
  I
• 48:25
  would
• 48:26
  probably
• 48:26
  tell
• 48:26
  my
• 48:27
  25
• 48:27
  year
• 48:27
  old
• 48:27
  self
• 48:29
  to
• 48:29
  enjoy
• 48:29
  every
• 48:29
  moment
• 48:30
  and
• 48:30
  to
• 48:31
  get
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  scans
• 48:32
  and
• 48:32
  pay
• 48:32
  attention
• 48:33
  and
• 48:34
  not
• 48:34
  by
• 48:35
  my
• 48:35
  husband
• 48:35
  on
• 48:35
  getting
• 48:35
  that
• 48:36
  one,
• 48:36
  I
• 48:36
  guess,
• 48:36
  and
• 48:38
  to
• 48:38
  continue
• 48:39
  to
• 48:39
  do
• 48:39
  the
• 48:39
  right
• 48:39
  things
• 48:40
  because
• 48:41
  I
• 48:41
  also
• 48:41
  believe
• 48:42
  in,
• 48:42
  maybe
• 48:42
  it's
• 48:43
  the
• 48:43
  higher
• 48:43
  spirit,
• 48:44
  but
• 48:44
  my
• 48:44
  lung
• 48:45
  cancer,
• 48:45
  interestingly
• 48:46
  enough,
• 48:47
  had
• 48:47
  like
• 48:47
  they
• 48:48
  said,
• 48:48
  like
• 48:48
  a
• 48:48
  thin
• 48:49
  layer
• 48:49
  of
• 48:49
  cancerous
• 48:50
  cells
• 48:50
  that
• 48:50
  were
• 48:51
  less
• 48:51
  invasive
• 48:52
  than
• 48:52
  the
• 48:52
  main
• 48:53
  tumor
• 48:53
  itself
• 48:54
  that
• 48:54
  circled
• 48:55
  them.
• 48:55
  And
• 48:55
  I've
• 48:56
  spoken
• 48:56
  to
• 48:56
  oncologists
• 48:57
  and
• 48:57
  they
• 48:57
  sometimes
• 48:57
  say
• 48:58
  that
• 48:58
  they
• 48:58
  find
• 48:58
  that
• 48:59
  in
• 48:59
  healthy,
• 48:59
  active
• 49:00
  individuals.
• 49:01
  So
• 49:01
  it
• 49:01
  was
• 49:01
  almost
• 49:02
  like
• 49:02
  maybe
• 49:02
  my
• 49:02
  body
• 49:03
  was
• 49:04
  fighting
• 49:04
  the
• 49:04
  tumor.
• 49:05
  And
• 49:05
  so
• 49:06
  it
• 49:06
  made
• 49:07
  these
• 49:07
  cancer
• 49:08
  cells
• 49:08
  that
• 49:09
  surrounded
• 49:09
  my
• 49:10
  tumor,
• 49:10
  they
• 49:10
  were
• 49:11
  still
• 49:11
  cancer
• 49:11
  cells,
• 49:11
  but
• 49:12
  they
• 49:12
  were
• 49:13
  less
• 49:13
  aggressive,
• 49:14
  invasive
• 49:14
  cancer
• 49:15
  cells
• 49:15
  than
• 49:15
  the
• 49:16
  mass
• 49:16
  of
• 49:16
  the
• 49:16
  tumor.
• 49:16
  So
• 49:17
  the
• 49:17
  mass
• 49:17
  of
• 49:17
  the
• 49:17
  tumor
• 49:18
  was
• 49:18
  growing
• 49:19
  and
• 49:19
  it
• 49:19
  would
• 49:19
  have
• 49:19
  broken
• 49:20
  through
• 49:21
  that
• 49:21
  protective
• 49:21
  barrier.
• 49:22
  But
• 49:22
  I
• 49:22
  think
• 49:23
  my
• 49:23
  body
• 49:23
  or
• 49:24
  somebody
• 49:24
  somewhere
• 49:26
  pushed
• 49:26
  to
• 49:26
  have
• 49:27
  it
• 49:27
  kind
• 49:27
  of
• 49:27
  protected.
• 49:28
  And
• 49:28
  so
• 49:28
  I
• 49:29
  think
• 49:29
  it's
• 49:29
  important
• 49:29
  to
• 49:30
  still
• 49:30
  take
• 49:30
  care
• 49:30
  of
• 49:30
  yourself.
• 49:31
  So
• 49:31
  even
• 49:31
  though
• 49:32
  I
• 49:32
  eat
• 49:32
  right
• 49:32
  and
• 49:33
  I
• 49:33
  exercise,
• 49:33
  I
• 49:33
  think
• 49:34
  that
• 49:34
  did
• 49:34
  help.
• 49:34
  I
• 49:35
  think
• 49:35
  it
• 49:35
  did
• 49:35
  protect
• 49:36
  me
• 49:36
  a
• 49:36
  little
• 49:36
  bit
• 49:36
  from
• 49:36
  it
• 49:37
  spreading
• 49:38
  to
• 49:38
  my
• 49:38
  lymph
• 49:38
  nodes
• 49:39
  sooner.
• 49:39
  And
• 49:40
  I
• 49:40
  think
• 49:40
  I've
• 49:41
  probably
• 49:41
  had
• 49:41
  the
• 49:41
  cancer
• 49:42
  for
• 49:42
  a
• 49:42
  few
• 49:42
  years
• 49:43
  when
• 49:43
  I
• 49:43
  finally
• 49:44
  found
• 49:44
  it.
• 49:44
  And
• 49:45
  I
• 49:45
  think
• 49:45
  I'm
• 49:45
  really
• 49:45
  lucky
• 49:46
  because
• 49:46
  if
• 49:46
  I
• 49:46
  had
• 49:47
  not
• 49:47
  gotten
• 49:48
  the
• 49:48
  scan
• 49:48
  and
• 49:48
  waited
• 49:48
  a
• 49:49
  few
• 49:49
  more
• 49:49
  months,
• 49:50
  it
• 49:50
  would
• 49:50
  have
• 49:50
  spread
• 49:50
  around
• 49:51
  my
• 49:51
  body
• 49:51
  and
• 49:51
  it
• 49:51
  would
• 49:51
  have
• 49:52
  been
• 49:52
  too
• 49:52
  late.
• 49:52
  Wow,
• 49:53
  so
• 49:53
  you
• 49:53
  think
• 49:53
  you
• 49:53
  had
• 49:54
  it
• 49:54
  for
• 49:54
  some
• 49:54
  years?
• 49:55
  Like
• 49:55
  it
• 49:55
  was
• 49:55
  just
• 49:55
  kind
• 49:56
  of
• 49:56
  laying
• 49:56
  dormant
• 49:56
  and
• 49:56
  then
• 49:57
  growing
• 49:57
  and
• 49:57
  growing
• 49:57
  and
• 49:57
  growing?
• 49:58
  Yeah,
• 49:58
  it
• 49:59
  was
• 49:59
  growing,
• 49:59
  but
• 49:59
  it
• 50:00
  was
• 50:00
  like,
• 50:00
  you
• 50:01
  know,
• 50:01
  because
• 50:01
  of
• 50:01
  that
• 50:02
  layer
• 50:02
  around
• 50:02
  it
• 50:03
  was
• 50:03
  growing,
• 50:03
  but
• 50:03
  it
• 50:03
  was
• 50:03
  kind
• 50:04
  of
• 50:04
  growing
• 50:04
  from
• 50:04
  the
• 50:04
  inside
• 50:04
  out
• 50:05
  versus
• 50:05
  like
• 50:06
  this
• 50:06
  way.
• 50:06
  And
• 50:07
  that
• 50:07
  layer
• 50:08
  was
• 50:08
  getting
• 50:08
  thinner
• 50:08
  and
• 50:09
  thinner,
• 50:09
  I
• 50:09
  think.
• 50:09
  And
• 50:09
  it
• 50:10
  was
• 50:10
  about
• 50:10
  to
• 50:10
  break
• 50:10
  through
• 50:11
  it,
• 50:11
  which
• 50:11
  would
• 50:11
  have
• 50:11
  made
• 50:12
  too
• 50:12
  late
• 50:12
  in
• 50:13
  a
• 50:13
  few
• 50:13
  months.
• 50:14
  My
• 50:14
  God.
• 50:14
  Thank
• 50:14
  goodness
• 50:15
  you
• 50:15
  went
• 50:15
  in.
• 50:17
  That
• 50:17
  is
• 50:17
  just.
• 50:18
  That's
• 50:18
  crazy.
• 50:19
  So
• 50:19
  what
• 50:20
  lesson
• 50:21
  have
• 50:21
  you
• 50:21
  learned
• 50:22
  in
• 50:22
  midlife?
• 50:22
  What
• 50:22
  is
• 50:23
  like
• 50:23
  the
• 50:23
  most
• 50:23
  important
• 50:23
  lesson?
• 50:25
  I
• 50:25
  mean,
• 50:25
  to
• 50:25
  be
• 50:25
  honest,
• 50:26
  that
• 50:26
  the
• 50:26
  minutes
• 50:26
  are
• 50:27
  long
• 50:27
  and
• 50:27
  the
• 50:28
  days
• 50:28
  and
• 50:28
  years
• 50:28
  are
• 50:29
  short.
• 50:29
  I
• 50:29
  sometimes
• 50:30
  find
• 50:30
  myself
• 50:30
  like
• 50:32
  trying
• 50:32
  to
• 50:32
  get
• 50:32
  to
• 50:32
  bedtime,
• 50:33
  but
• 50:33
  the
• 50:34
  reality
• 50:34
  is
• 50:35
  like
• 50:35
  then
• 50:35
  the
• 50:35
  week
• 50:35
  goes
• 50:36
  by
• 50:36
  and
• 50:36
  I'm
• 50:36
  like,
• 50:36
  wait
• 50:36
  a
• 50:37
  minute.
• 50:37
  Did
• 50:37
  I
• 50:37
  do
• 50:37
  this?
• 50:38
  Did
• 50:38
  I
• 50:38
  do
• 50:38
  that?
• 50:39
  I'm
• 50:40
  trying
• 50:40
  to
• 50:40
  see
• 50:40
  that.
• 50:41
  My
• 50:41
  oldest
• 50:41
  are
• 50:41
  freshmen
• 50:42
  in
• 50:42
  high
• 50:42
  school,
• 50:42
  and
• 50:43
  I
• 50:43
  know
• 50:43
  that
• 50:43
  soon
• 50:43
  they'll
• 50:44
  be
• 50:44
  driving
• 50:44
  and
• 50:45
  definitely
• 50:45
  leaving
• 50:46
  me.
• 50:46
  And
• 50:47
  so
• 50:47
  with
• 50:48
  this
• 50:48
  whole
• 50:48
  process,
• 50:48
  I've
• 50:49
  realized
• 50:50
  I
• 50:50
  just
• 50:50
  want
• 50:50
  to
• 50:51
  hold
• 50:51
  on
• 50:51
  to
• 50:51
  them,
• 50:51
  and
• 50:52
  I'm
• 50:52
  trying
• 50:52
  to
• 50:52
  focus
• 50:52
  on
• 50:53
  them
• 50:53
  more,
• 50:54
  and
• 50:54
  I'm
• 50:55
  embracing
• 50:55
  it.
• 50:55
  I'm
• 50:56
  okay
• 50:56
  in
• 50:56
  my
• 50:56
  40s.
• 50:57
  I
• 50:57
  feel
• 50:57
  good.
• 50:58
  You
• 50:58
  know,
• 50:58
  I
• 50:58
  think
• 50:59
  there's
• 51:00
  so
• 51:00
  much
• 51:00
  pressure
• 51:00
  when
• 51:00
  you're
• 51:01
  younger.
• 51:02
  And
• 51:02
  I've,
• 51:03
  like,
• 51:03
  come
• 51:03
  into
• 51:03
  my
• 51:04
  own,
• 51:04
  and
• 51:04
  I
• 51:04
  have
• 51:04
  my
• 51:04
  own
• 51:05
  career,
• 51:05
  and
• 51:05
  I
• 51:05
  have
• 51:06
  my
• 51:06
  family
• 51:06
  and
• 51:07
  my
• 51:08
  babies
• 51:08
  that
• 51:08
  I
• 51:08
  love
• 51:08
  on
• 51:09
  all
• 51:09
  the
• 51:09
  time,
• 51:09
  and
• 51:09
  I
• 51:10
  feel
• 51:10
  good
• 51:10
  about
• 51:10
  it.
• 51:10
  And
• 51:11
  I've
• 51:11
  learned
• 51:11
  a
• 51:11
  lot
• 51:11
  to
• 51:12
  stand
• 51:12
  up
• 51:12
  for
• 51:12
  myself
• 51:13
  and
• 51:13
  say,
• 51:13
  this
• 51:14
  is
• 51:14
  what
• 51:14
  I
• 51:14
  need
• 51:14
  right
• 51:14
  now.
• 51:15
  And
• 51:15
  a
• 51:15
  lot
• 51:15
  of
• 51:16
  that
• 51:16
  I
• 51:16
  didn't
• 51:16
  do
• 51:16
  before
• 51:17
  I
• 51:17
  had
• 51:17
  cancer.
• 51:18
  And
• 51:18
  I
• 51:18
  think
• 51:18
  cancer
• 51:19
  has
• 51:19
  helped
• 51:19
  me
• 51:19
  with
• 51:19
  that
• 51:20
  to,
• 51:21
  you
• 51:21
  know,
• 51:21
  be
• 51:21
  honest
• 51:22
  with
• 51:22
  myself
• 51:22
  and
• 51:23
  with
• 51:23
  my
• 51:23
  family
• 51:24
  and
• 51:24
  friends
• 51:24
  around
• 51:24
  me.
• 51:26
  Absolutely.
• 51:27
  And
• 51:28
  how
• 51:28
  are
• 51:28
  you
• 51:28
  living
• 51:28
  iconically
• 51:29
  right
• 51:29
  now?
• 51:31
  I
• 51:31
  mean,
• 51:31
  look
• 51:31
  at
• 51:31
  me.
• 51:31
  All
• 51:32
  the
• 51:32
  things.
• 51:33
  Of
• 51:33
  course
• 51:34
  I
• 51:34
  know.
• 51:35
  I
• 51:36
  have
• 51:36
  never
• 51:36
  had
• 51:37
  a
• 51:37
  social
• 51:37
  media.
• 51:38
  I've
• 51:38
  never
• 51:38
  been
• 51:38
  on
• 51:39
  television.
• 51:39
  I've
• 51:40
  never
• 51:40
  done
• 51:40
  podcasts.
• 51:40
  I've
• 51:41
  just,
• 51:41
  you
• 51:41
  know,
• 51:42
  hunkered
• 51:42
  behind
• 51:42
  and
• 51:43
  along
• 51:43
  the
• 51:43
  road.
• 51:44
  I
• 51:44
  think
• 51:44
  I've
• 51:45
  always
• 51:45
  introduced
• 51:46
  myself
• 51:46
  as
• 51:46
  Adam's
• 51:47
  wife.
• 51:47
  I've
• 51:47
  always
• 51:48
  played.
• 51:48
  I
• 51:48
  always
• 51:48
  say
• 51:49
  I
• 51:49
  play
• 51:49
  wife
• 51:49
  really
• 51:49
  well,
• 51:50
  or
• 51:50
  I'm
• 51:50
  roots
• 51:51
  mom,
• 51:51
  or
• 51:52
  I'm,
• 51:52
  you
• 51:52
  know,
• 51:53
  Rachel's
• 51:53
  mom.
• 51:53
  And
• 51:53
  I
• 51:54
  just
• 51:54
  always
• 51:56
  am
• 51:56
  behind
• 51:56
  the
• 51:57
  throne.
• 51:57
  I'm
• 51:57
  always,
• 51:58
  you
• 51:58
  know,
• 51:59
  the
• 51:59
  wife
• 51:59
  or
• 51:59
  the
• 51:59
  mom
• 52:00
  or
• 52:00
  the
• 52:00
  friend
• 52:00
  or
• 52:00
  this.
• 52:01
  And
• 52:02
  I
• 52:02
  am
• 52:03
  living
• 52:03
  iconically
• 52:03
  because
• 52:04
  now
• 52:04
  I
• 52:05
  have
• 52:05
  a
• 52:05
  big
• 52:05
  social
• 52:06
  media.
• 52:06
  I
• 52:07
  started.
• 52:07
  It's
• 52:08
  called
• 52:08
  Shira
• 52:09
  Bowler,
• 52:09
  my
• 52:09
  name.
• 52:09
  I'm
• 52:10
  trying
• 52:10
  to
• 52:10
  raise
• 52:10
  awareness
• 52:10
  about
• 52:11
  lung
• 52:11
  cancer.
• 52:12
  I've
• 52:12
  been
• 52:12
  on
• 52:13
  FOX
• 52:13
  and
• 52:13
  cnn.
• 52:14
  I'm
• 52:14
  going
• 52:14
  to
• 52:14
  be
• 52:14
  on
• 52:15
  the
• 52:15
  Today
• 52:15
  show.
• 52:15
  I'm
• 52:16
  just
• 52:16
  doing
• 52:16
  all
• 52:17
  these
• 52:17
  things
• 52:17
  now
• 52:18
  that
• 52:18
  I
• 52:19
  never
• 52:19
  thought
• 52:19
  I
• 52:19
  would
• 52:19
  do,
• 52:20
  and
• 52:20
  I'm
• 52:20
  putting
• 52:20
  myself
• 52:20
  out
• 52:21
  there.
• 52:22
  And
• 52:22
  it's
• 52:23
  something
• 52:23
  that
• 52:23
  changed
• 52:23
  when
• 52:24
  I
• 52:24
  hit
• 52:24
  44,
• 52:25
  and
• 52:25
  I
• 52:25
  kind
• 52:25
  of
• 52:26
  love
• 52:26
  it.
• 52:27
  Yeah,
• 52:27
  there's
• 52:28
  something
• 52:28
  really
• 52:28
  nice
• 52:29
  about,
• 52:29
  like,
• 52:30
  feeling
• 52:30
  good
• 52:30
  about
• 52:31
  where
• 52:31
  you
• 52:31
  are
• 52:31
  and
• 52:32
  not
• 52:32
  really
• 52:32
  giving
• 52:33
  so
• 52:33
  many
• 52:33
  fucks
• 52:34
  about,
• 52:34
  like,
• 52:34
  what
• 52:35
  everyone
• 52:35
  else
• 52:35
  thinks
• 52:35
  and
• 52:36
  being
• 52:36
  able
• 52:36
  to
• 52:36
  put
• 52:36
  yourself
• 52:37
  out
• 52:37
  there,
• 52:38
  you
• 52:38
  know,
• 52:38
  why
• 52:39
  not?
• 52:39
  I
• 52:39
  mean,
• 52:39
  and
• 52:39
  I
• 52:40
  just.
• 52:40
  I
• 52:40
  think
• 52:41
  I.
• 52:42
  I
• 52:42
  guess
• 52:42
  I
• 52:42
  have
• 52:42
  Diary
• 52:43
  of
• 52:43
  the
• 52:43
  mouth,
• 52:43
  right?
• 52:43
  I
• 52:43
  just
• 52:44
  share
• 52:44
  my
• 52:44
  story.
• 52:44
  I
• 52:44
  keep
• 52:44
  telling
• 52:45
  everyone
• 52:45
  because
• 52:45
  I
• 52:45
  want
• 52:46
  people
• 52:46
  to
• 52:46
  get
• 52:46
  help.
• 52:47
  So
• 52:47
  many
• 52:47
  people
• 52:47
  have
• 52:47
  come
• 52:48
  to
• 52:48
  me,
• 52:48
  and
• 52:48
  they're
• 52:48
  like,
• 52:48
  I
• 52:48
  just
• 52:49
  wouldn't
• 52:49
  have
• 52:49
  told
• 52:49
  anyone.
• 52:50
  I
• 52:50
  can't
• 52:50
  believe
• 52:50
  you're
• 52:50
  doing
• 52:50
  that.
• 52:51
  I
• 52:51
  can't
• 52:51
  believe
• 52:51
  you're
• 52:52
  telling
• 52:52
  the
• 52:52
  world
• 52:52
  about
• 52:53
  all
• 52:53
  the
• 52:53
  stuff
• 52:53
  you
• 52:53
  went
• 52:54
  through.
• 52:54
  But
• 52:55
  that's
• 52:55
  something
• 52:55
  that
• 52:55
  changed
• 52:56
  for
• 52:56
  me
• 52:56
  because
• 52:56
  I
• 52:56
  was
• 52:56
  like,
• 52:57
  if
• 52:57
  I
• 52:57
  don't,
• 52:58
  who
• 52:58
  will?
• 52:58
  And
• 52:59
  who's
• 52:59
  going
• 52:59
  to
• 52:59
  stand
• 52:59
  up
• 52:59
  and
• 53:00
  say,
• 53:00
  lung
• 53:00
  cancer
• 53:01
  is
• 53:01
  a
• 53:01
  thing?
• 53:01
  It's
• 53:02
  a
• 53:02
  female
• 53:02
  health
• 53:02
  crisis.
• 53:03
  It's
• 53:03
  happening
• 53:03
  to
• 53:03
  women
• 53:04
  in
• 53:04
  their
• 53:04
  40s
• 53:04
  and
• 53:04
  50s,
• 53:05
  just
• 53:05
  like
• 53:06
  menopause,
• 53:06
  just
• 53:07
  like
• 53:07
  breast
• 53:07
  cancer.
• 53:07
  We
• 53:07
  need
• 53:08
  to
• 53:08
  talk
• 53:08
  about
• 53:08
  it.
• 53:08
  We
• 53:08
  need
• 53:08
  to,
• 53:09
  like,
• 53:10
  get
• 53:10
  the
• 53:10
  word
• 53:11
  out.
• 53:11
  And
• 53:11
  so
• 53:12
  I
• 53:12
  never
• 53:12
  thought
• 53:12
  I'd
• 53:13
  be
• 53:13
  an
• 53:13
  author.
• 53:13
  I
• 53:14
  never
• 53:14
  thought
• 53:14
  I'd
• 53:14
  be
• 53:14
  on
• 53:15
  a
• 53:15
  podcast.
• 53:15
  I
• 53:15
  never
• 53:15
  thought
• 53:16
  I'd
• 53:16
  go
• 53:16
  on
• 53:16
  television
• 53:17
  and,
• 53:17
  like,
• 53:17
  doing
• 53:18
  it
• 53:18
  all.
• 53:18
  And
• 53:18
  I
• 53:19
  started
• 53:19
  it
• 53:19
  all
• 53:19
  at
• 53:19
  44
• 53:20
  and
• 53:20
  like,
• 53:20
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• 53:21
  I
• 53:21
  am,
• 53:21
  you
• 53:21
  know,.
• 53:22
  See,
• 53:23
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• 53:23
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• 53:23
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• 53:23
  late.
• 53:24
  It's
• 53:24
  never
• 53:24
  too
• 53:24
  late.
• 53:26
  So
• 53:26
  what
• 53:26
  do
• 53:26
  you
• 53:27
  say
• 53:27
  to
• 53:27
  a
• 53:27
  woman
• 53:27
  at
• 53:28
  home
• 53:28
  that
• 53:28
  feels
• 53:28
  stuck,
• 53:29
  that
• 53:29
  she
• 53:29
  doesn't
• 53:30
  really
• 53:30
  know
• 53:30
  what
• 53:30
  to
• 53:30
  do
• 53:30
  in
• 53:30
  midlife,
• 53:31
  especially,
• 53:31
  you
• 53:32
  know,
• 53:32
  like,
• 53:33
  what
• 53:33
  advice
• 53:33
  would
• 53:34
  you
• 53:34
  give
• 53:34
  her?
• 53:35
  It's
• 53:35
  funny.
• 53:35
  Last
• 53:36
  January,
• 53:36
  January
• 53:37
  of
• 53:37
  2025,
• 53:38
  I
• 53:38
  was
• 53:38
  sitting
• 53:38
  around
• 53:38
  a
• 53:39
  room
• 53:39
  with
• 53:39
  a
• 53:39
  group
• 53:39
  of
• 53:39
  women
• 53:40
  and
• 53:40
  everyone
• 53:40
  had
• 53:41
  to
• 53:41
  go
• 53:41
  around
• 53:41
  and
• 53:41
  say,
• 53:42
  like,
• 53:42
  what
• 53:42
  they
• 53:42
  wanted
• 53:43
  in
• 53:43
  2025.
• 53:44
  And
• 53:44
  I,
• 53:45
  one
• 53:46
  of
• 53:46
  the
• 53:46
  women
• 53:46
  there
• 53:46
  reminded
• 53:47
  me
• 53:47
  of
• 53:47
  this
• 53:47
  about
• 53:47
  six
• 53:48
  months
• 53:48
  ago.
• 53:48
  I
• 53:48
  said,
• 53:49
  I
• 53:49
  don't
• 53:50
  know,
• 53:50
  I
• 53:50
  want
• 53:50
  to
• 53:51
  find
• 53:51
  my
• 53:51
  thing.
• 53:52
  Like,
• 53:52
  I
• 53:52
  feel
• 53:53
  like
• 53:53
  I'm
• 53:54
  my
• 53:54
  husband's
• 53:54
  wife,
• 53:55
  I'm
• 53:55
  the
• 53:55
  mother
• 53:56
  of
• 53:56
  my
• 53:56
  four
• 53:56
  children.
• 53:57
  You
• 53:57
  know,
• 53:57
  I
• 53:58
  have
• 53:58
  my
• 53:58
  mba.
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  worked
• 53:59
  really
• 53:59
  hard
• 54:00
  as
• 54:00
  a
• 54:00
  student.
• 54:00
  Like,
• 54:01
  but
• 54:01
  I'm
• 54:01
  just
• 54:01
  kind
• 54:02
  of
• 54:02
  like,
• 54:02
  eh,
• 54:03
  I
• 54:03
  don't
• 54:03
  really
• 54:03
  know,
• 54:04
  like,
• 54:04
  what's
• 54:04
  mine,
• 54:05
  who
• 54:05
  am
• 54:06
  I
• 54:07
  except
• 54:08
  a
• 54:08
  wife
• 54:08
  and
• 54:08
  a
• 54:09
  mother
• 54:09
  and
• 54:09
  all
• 54:10
  those
• 54:10
  things.
• 54:10
  And
• 54:11
  I
• 54:11
  said
• 54:11
  that.
• 54:11
  And
• 54:11
  I
• 54:11
  said,
• 54:11
  I'd
• 54:12
  love
• 54:12
  to,
• 54:12
  like,
• 54:13
  find
• 54:13
  my
• 54:13
  passion
• 54:14
  or
• 54:14
  drive
• 54:14
  or
• 54:15
  something
• 54:15
  that
• 54:15
  excites
• 54:16
  me
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  get
• 54:16
  up
• 54:16
  every
• 54:16
  morning.
• 54:18
  And
• 54:18
  I
• 54:18
  didn't
• 54:19
  think
• 54:19
  it
• 54:19
  would
• 54:19
  be
• 54:19
  lung
• 54:19
  cancer,
• 54:20
  but
• 54:21
  I
• 54:21
  mean,
• 54:22
  I'm
• 54:22
  the
• 54:22
  luckiest
• 54:23
  girl
• 54:23
  in
• 54:23
  the
• 54:23
  world.
• 54:23
  I
• 54:24
  have
• 54:24
  no
• 54:24
  evidence
• 54:24
  of
• 54:25
  disease.
• 54:25
  I'm
• 54:25
  a
• 54:25
  lung
• 54:25
  cancer
• 54:26
  survivor.
• 54:26
  And
• 54:26
  like,
• 54:27
  I'm
• 54:27
  going
• 54:27
  to
• 54:27
  help
• 54:28
  change
• 54:28
  the
• 54:28
  guidelines
• 54:29
  and
• 54:29
  save
• 54:30
  lives
• 54:30
  and
• 54:31
  move
• 54:31
  the
• 54:31
  needle.
• 54:32
  And
• 54:32
  I
• 54:32
  just
• 54:32
  never
• 54:33
  thought
• 54:33
  that
• 54:33
  would
• 54:33
  be
• 54:33
  me.
• 54:34
  And
• 54:34
  so
• 54:34
  when
• 54:34
  I
• 54:34
  look
• 54:35
  back
• 54:35
  at
• 54:35
  me
• 54:35
  when
• 54:36
  I
• 54:36
  was
• 54:36
  a
• 54:36
  little
• 54:36
  bit
• 54:36
  stuck,
• 54:37
  I
• 54:37
  would
• 54:38
  say
• 54:39
  stand
• 54:39
  up
• 54:40
  and
• 54:40
  like,
• 54:41
  do
• 54:41
  something.
• 54:41
  Like,
• 54:42
  just,
• 54:42
  I
• 54:43
  don't
• 54:43
  know,
• 54:43
  whatever
• 54:43
  it
• 54:43
  is,
• 54:44
  if
• 54:44
  you
• 54:44
  want
• 54:44
  to
• 54:45
  get
• 54:45
  super
• 54:45
  active
• 54:46
  in
• 54:46
  the
• 54:46
  kids,
• 54:46
  school
• 54:46
  or
• 54:47
  more
• 54:47
  active
• 54:47
  in
• 54:47
  your
• 54:48
  husband's
• 54:48
  job
• 54:48
  or
• 54:49
  more
• 54:49
  active
• 54:49
  in
• 54:49
  your
• 54:49
  own
• 54:50
  job
• 54:50
  or
• 54:50
  start
• 54:50
  your
• 54:50
  own
• 54:51
  career,
• 54:52
  I
• 54:52
  think
• 54:52
  that
• 54:52
  this
• 54:53
  whole,
• 54:53
  whole
• 54:53
  thing
• 54:54
  in
• 54:54
  your
• 54:54
  40s,
• 54:54
  I
• 54:55
  see
• 54:55
  so
• 54:55
  many
• 54:55
  Friends
• 54:56
  restarting.
• 54:57
  And
• 54:57
  I
• 54:57
  used
• 54:57
  to
• 54:58
  think,
• 54:58
  like,
• 54:58
  I
• 54:58
  love
• 54:59
  connecting
• 54:59
  people
• 54:59
  and
• 54:59
  talking
• 55:00
  to
• 55:00
  people.
• 55:00
  Maybe
• 55:00
  I
• 55:00
  should
• 55:00
  be
• 55:01
  a
• 55:01
  recruiter.
• 55:02
  And
• 55:02
  I
• 55:02
  started
• 55:03
  working
• 55:03
  a
• 55:03
  little
• 55:03
  bit
• 55:04
  with
• 55:04
  my
• 55:04
  husband's
• 55:04
  company
• 55:05
  and
• 55:05
  the
• 55:05
  recruiting
• 55:05
  team
• 55:06
  to
• 55:06
  see
• 55:06
  if
• 55:06
  I
• 55:06
  could
• 55:06
  help
• 55:06
  and
• 55:07
  introduce
• 55:07
  them
• 55:07
  to
• 55:07
  people
• 55:08
  and
• 55:08
  things
• 55:09
  like
• 55:09
  that.
• 55:09
  And,
• 55:09
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• 55:09
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• 55:10
  on
• 55:10
  clothes
• 55:10
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• 55:10
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• 55:10
  to
• 55:10
  the
• 55:11
  office
• 55:11
  every
• 55:11
  single
• 55:11
  day,
• 55:12
  you
• 55:12
  know,
• 55:12
  and
• 55:13
  just
• 55:13
  figure
• 55:14
  out
• 55:14
  what
• 55:15
  made
• 55:15
  me
• 55:15
  tick.
• 55:15
  But
• 55:16
  I
• 55:16
  think.
• 55:16
  I
• 55:17
  think
• 55:17
  our
• 55:17
  40s
• 55:18
  and
• 55:18
  50s
• 55:18
  are,
• 55:18
  like,
• 55:19
  it's
• 55:19
  it
• 55:19
  for
• 55:19
  us.
• 55:20
  I
• 55:20
  think
• 55:20
  it's
• 55:20
  like,
• 55:21
  the
• 55:21
  go
• 55:21
  time
• 55:21
  it
• 55:22
  is,
• 55:22
  right?
• 55:23
  You
• 55:23
  don't
• 55:23
  have
• 55:23
  to
• 55:23
  be
• 55:24
  pregnant.
• 55:24
  We
• 55:24
  don't
• 55:25
  have
• 55:25
  to
• 55:25
  be,
• 55:25
  like,
• 55:26
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• 55:26
  anymore.
• 55:27
  We're
• 55:27
  just,
• 55:27
  like,
• 55:27
  crushing
• 55:28
  it
• 55:28
  at
• 55:28
  this
• 55:28
  stage.
• 55:29
  Yeah.
• 55:29
  It's
• 55:29
  like
• 55:29
  our
• 55:30
  time.
• 55:30
  It's
• 55:30
  like,
• 55:31
  this
• 55:31
  is
• 55:31
  it.
• 55:31
  Like,
• 55:32
  this
• 55:32
  is
• 55:32
  it,
• 55:32
  you
• 55:33
  know?
• 55:33
  I
• 55:34
  totally
• 55:34
  agree.
• 55:34
  I
• 55:34
  think
• 55:34
  it's
• 55:35
  never
• 55:35
  too
• 55:35
  late,
• 55:35
  and
• 55:36
  I
• 55:36
  think
• 55:36
  anybody
• 55:36
  can
• 55:37
  start
• 55:37
  anything
• 55:37
  at
• 55:37
  any
• 55:38
  time,
• 55:38
  you
• 55:38
  know,
• 55:39
  why
• 55:39
  not?
• 55:40
  Knowledge
• 55:40
  is
• 55:40
  power.
• 55:41
  And
• 55:41
  what
• 55:42
  is
• 55:42
  next
• 55:42
  for
• 55:42
  you,
• 55:43
  my
• 55:43
  friend?
• 55:44
  I'm
• 55:44
  getting
• 55:44
  on
• 55:45
  a
• 55:45
  plane.
• 55:46
  I
• 55:46
  am
• 55:46
  heading
• 55:47
  to
• 55:47
  Texas
• 55:48
  for
• 55:48
  a
• 55:48
  couple
• 55:49
  of
• 55:49
  days.
• 55:50
  I
• 55:50
  have
• 55:50
  a
• 55:50
  book
• 55:50
  party
• 55:51
  in
• 55:51
  Dallas
• 55:51
  and
• 55:51
  Austin
• 55:52
  and
• 55:52
  some
• 55:52
  meetings
• 55:53
  and
• 55:53
  a
• 55:53
  conference,
• 55:54
  and
• 55:54
  I'm
• 55:55
  going
• 55:55
  to
• 55:55
  go
• 55:55
  talk
• 55:55
  about
• 55:56
  my
• 55:56
  book
• 55:56
  and
• 55:56
  spread
• 55:57
  the
• 55:57
  word
• 55:57
  to
• 55:57
  get
• 55:58
  people's
• 55:58
  lungs
• 55:58
  checked
• 55:59
  and
• 55:59
  take
• 55:59
  care
• 55:59
  of
• 56:00
  their
• 56:00
  bodies.
• 56:01
  Amazing.
• 56:01
  And
• 56:02
  where
• 56:02
  can
• 56:03
  everybody
• 56:03
  find
• 56:04
  you
• 56:04
  and
• 56:04
  if
• 56:04
  they
• 56:04
  want
• 56:05
  to
• 56:05
  reach
• 56:05
  out
• 56:05
  to
• 56:05
  you
• 56:05
  as
• 56:05
  well?
• 56:06
  Yeah,
• 56:06
  I
• 56:07
  have
• 56:07
  my
• 56:07
  social
• 56:07
  media.
• 56:08
  My
• 56:08
  name
• 56:08
  is
• 56:08
  Shira
• 56:09
  Bowler.
• 56:10
  S
• 56:10
  H
• 56:10
  I
• 56:10
  R
• 56:11
  A
• 56:11
  B
• 56:11
  O
• 56:11
  E
• 56:12
  H
• 56:12
  L
• 56:12
  E
• 56:12
  R
• 56:12
  On
• 56:13
  Instagram.
• 56:14
  I
• 56:14
  just
• 56:14
  joined
• 56:15
  LinkedIn.
• 56:15
  I'm
• 56:15
  doing
• 56:16
  all
• 56:16
  the
• 56:16
  things.
• 56:16
  Roxy.
• 56:18
  I
• 56:18
  have
• 56:19
  a
• 56:19
  website.
• 56:19
  It's
• 56:19
  called
• 56:20
  Cancer
• 56:20
  Doesn't
• 56:20
  Care
• 56:21
  Dot
• 56:21
  Com.
• 56:21
  And
• 56:21
  you
• 56:21
  can
• 56:22
  find
• 56:22
  my
• 56:22
  book
• 56:22
  there.
• 56:23
  You
• 56:23
  can
• 56:23
  find
• 56:23
  my
• 56:23
  book
• 56:24
  on
• 56:24
  Amazon.
• 56:24
  It
• 56:24
  comes
• 56:25
  out
• 56:25
  later
• 56:25
  in
• 56:25
  April.
• 56:27
  And
• 56:27
  you
• 56:27
  can
• 56:27
  write
• 56:27
  me
• 56:28
  on
• 56:28
  any
• 56:28
  of
• 56:28
  those
• 56:28
  places,
• 56:29
  too.
• 56:29
  And
• 56:30
  I'm
• 56:31
  answering
• 56:31
  and
• 56:31
  really
• 56:32
  active
• 56:32
  on
• 56:32
  it
• 56:32
  all,
• 56:32
  because
• 56:33
  I
• 56:33
  just.
• 56:33
  I
• 56:34
  want
• 56:34
  people
• 56:34
  to
• 56:34
  get
• 56:34
  their
• 56:35
  lungs
• 56:35
  checked.
• 56:36
  Yeah,
• 56:36
  this
• 56:37
  is.
• 56:37
  This
• 56:37
  is
• 56:37
  what's
• 56:37
  happening.
• 56:38
  You're
• 56:38
  making
• 56:38
  it
• 56:38
  happen.
• 56:39
  You
• 56:40
  are
• 56:40
  making
• 56:40
  it.
• 56:40
  Got
• 56:41
  it?
• 56:41
  Yeah.
• 56:41
  Absolutely.
• 56:42
  Well,
• 56:43
  thank
• 56:43
  you
• 56:43
  so
• 56:43
  much
• 56:44
  for
• 56:44
  coming
• 56:44
  on
• 56:44
  the
• 56:44
  show,
• 56:45
  everybody.
• 56:45
  Please
• 56:47
  check
• 56:47
  out
• 56:47
  all
• 56:47
  of
• 56:48
  Shira's
• 56:48
  amazing
• 56:49
  work
• 56:49
  that
• 56:49
  she's
• 56:49
  doing.
• 56:50
  Go
• 56:50
  get
• 56:50
  your
• 56:50
  scans.
• 56:51
  Go
• 56:51
  get
• 56:52
  your
• 56:52
  scans.
• 56:52
  Right?
• 56:53
  And
• 56:54
  be
• 56:55
  absolutely.
• 56:56
  Be
• 56:56
  sure
• 56:57
  to
• 56:57
  come
• 56:57
  back
• 56:57
  on
• 56:57
  Thursday
• 56:58
  for
• 56:59
  Shira's
• 56:59
  game
• 56:59
  episode,
• 57:00
  because
• 57:00
  we're
• 57:01
  going
• 57:01
  to
• 57:01
  be
• 57:01
  diving
• 57:01
  into
• 57:02
  all
• 57:02
  the
• 57:02
  things
• 57:02
  you're
• 57:02
  not
• 57:03
  going
• 57:03
  to
• 57:03
  want
• 57:03
  to
• 57:03
  miss
• 57:03
  it.
• 57:04
  It's
• 57:04
  amazing.
• 57:04
  And
• 57:05
  be
• 57:05
  sure
• 57:05
  you,
• 57:05
  like,
• 57:06
  subscribe
• 57:06
  and
• 57:07
  rate
• 57:07
  wherever
• 57:07
  you
• 57:08
  get
• 57:08
  podcasts
• 57:09
  so
• 57:09
  we
• 57:09
  can
• 57:09
  bring
• 57:09
  you
• 57:09
  more
• 57:10
  amazing
• 57:10
  conversations
• 57:11
  like
• 57:11
  this.
• 57:11
  Shira,
• 57:12
  you're
• 57:12
  a
• 57:12
  rock
• 57:12
  star.
• 57:13
  Thank
• 57:13
  you,
• 57:13
  thank
• 57:13
  you,
• 57:14
  thank
• 57:14
  you.
• 57:15
  Yay.
• 57:16
  Loved,
• 57:17
  loved,
• 57:17
  loved,
• 57:17
  loved.
• 57:18
  What
• 57:18
  makes
• 57:19
  this
• 57:19
  conversation
• 57:20
  so
• 57:20
  powerful
• 57:21
  is
• 57:21
  not
• 57:22
  just
• 57:22
  what
• 57:22
  happened
• 57:23
  to
• 57:23
  Shira.
• 57:24
  It's
• 57:24
  what
• 57:25
  almost
• 57:25
  didn't
• 57:25
  happen.
• 57:26
  Because
• 57:27
  her
• 57:27
  story
• 57:27
  only
• 57:28
  exists
• 57:28
  the
• 57:29
  way
• 57:29
  it
• 57:29
  does
• 57:29
  because
• 57:30
  she
• 57:30
  had
• 57:30
  access,
• 57:31
  she
• 57:31
  had
• 57:32
  information,
• 57:32
  and
• 57:33
  she
• 57:33
  pushed
• 57:33
  when
• 57:34
  most
• 57:34
  people
• 57:34
  are
• 57:34
  told
• 57:35
  not
• 57:35
  to.
• 57:37
  And
• 57:37
  that's
• 57:37
  the
• 57:37
  question
• 57:38
  this
• 57:38
  leaves
• 57:38
  us
• 57:39
  with.
• 57:40
  How
• 57:40
  many
• 57:40
  women
• 57:40
  are
• 57:41
  doing
• 57:41
  everything
• 57:42
  right
• 57:42
  and
• 57:42
  still
• 57:43
  being
• 57:44
  missed?
• 57:45
  If
• 57:45
  this
• 57:45
  episode
• 57:46
  made
• 57:46
  you
• 57:46
  think
• 57:46
  differently
• 57:47
  about
• 57:48
  your
• 57:48
  health,
• 57:49
  your
• 57:49
  instincts,
• 57:50
  or
• 57:50
  the
• 57:50
  questions
• 57:51
  you're
• 57:51
  asking,
• 57:52
  don't
• 57:53
  keep
• 57:53
  it
• 57:53
  to
• 57:53
  yourself.
• 57:54
  Share
• 57:55
  it
• 57:55
  with
• 57:55
  a
• 57:55
  woman
• 57:55
  in
• 57:56
  your
• 57:56
  life
• 57:56
  who
• 57:56
  needs
• 57:57
  to
• 57:57
  hear
• 57:57
  it.
• 57:58
  Text
• 57:58
  it
• 57:58
  to
• 57:58
  a
• 57:59
  friend,
• 58:00
  Send
• 58:00
  it
• 58:00
  to
• 58:00
  your
• 58:00
  sister,
• 58:01
  your
• 58:01
  mom,
• 58:02
  or
• 58:02
  your
• 58:02
  group
• 58:02
  chat,
• 58:03
  because
• 58:04
  this
• 58:04
  is
• 58:04
  the
• 58:05
  kind
• 58:05
  of
• 58:05
  of
• 58:05
  conversation
• 58:06
  that
• 58:06
  can
• 58:07
  actually
• 58:07
  change
• 58:08
  outcomes.
• 58:09
  And
• 58:09
  if
• 58:10
  you
• 58:10
  haven't
• 58:10
  already,
• 58:11
  follow
• 58:11
  the
• 58:12
  show
• 58:12
  so
• 58:12
  you
• 58:12
  don't
• 58:13
  miss
• 58:13
  what's
• 58:13
  coming
• 58:14
  next.
• 58:15
  We're
• 58:15
  having
• 58:16
  these
• 58:16
  conversations
• 58:17
  every
• 58:17
  week
• 58:18
  with
• 58:18
  bold,
• 58:19
  smart,
• 58:19
  interesting
• 58:20
  guests.
• 58:21
  Some
• 58:21
  you
• 58:22
  know,
• 58:22
  and
• 58:22
  some
• 58:22
  you'll
• 58:23
  be
• 58:23
  very
• 58:23
  glad
• 58:23
  you
• 58:24
  met
• 58:24
  here
• 58:24
  first.
• 58:25
  Whether
• 58:26
  you're
• 58:26
  questioning
• 58:27
  the
• 58:27
  system,
• 58:28
  trusting
• 58:28
  your
• 58:29
  gut,
• 58:29
  or
• 58:30
  just
• 58:30
  training
• 58:30
  to
• 58:31
  figure
• 58:31
  it
• 58:31
  all
• 58:31
  out,
• 58:32
  you're
• 58:32
  not
• 58:32
  crazy.
• 58:33
  You're
• 58:33
  evolving,
• 58:34
  and
• 58:35
  that's
• 58:35
  iconic.