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#89 - William Petrow of Broken Motorsports · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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  What's going on guys? Welcome back to another episode
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  of the After Hours podcast. On today's episode we have
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  William Petro. He is the owner of Broken
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  Motorsports and has been drifting at Club Loose for a
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  long time. Way longer than I thought
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  actually. So this this ended up being a
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  really informative podcast with a lot of history too.
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  And we realized at the end of it that we still have a lot to talk
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  about. So Will's involved in a lot of
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  rally racing as well, so if you're into any sort of rally
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  racing hill climb stuff, this is definitely going to be a good
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  Faction Motorsports. What?
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  The hell is that sound? It sounds like a beehive.
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  Are we live for you? Yeah.
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  I don't even. Know I'm sitting here like,
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  wait, what? Welcome everybody to the Faction
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  After Hours podcast. That's great.
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  We have Bill from Broken Motorsports.
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  Thank you for coming on. Thank you, Bill.
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  Here's our live audience. Oh, I thought.
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  We. Have a live audience.
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  We have a live audience in the new studio.
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  We're selling tickets for $25 a pop.
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  Sweet. Yeah, you can put it like a
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  little grand standing right on the other side.
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  Yeah, people were saying we should do that, but that.
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  Would actually be kind of funny, yeah.
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  I I said it literally. It reminds.
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  Monitors out there so like people could hear like everybody
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  talking in here. That I'm OK with.
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  But having people sit there and watch this, I don't think I'm OK
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  with that. Why?
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  We have to like put blinds there or something you have.
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  Tons of people watching this every day.
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  I know, but like physically sitting there and then they're
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  gonna be like. That felt really weird to say
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  that there's tons of people watching this every day.
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  We're in the new studio. For those of you who are missed,
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  maybe the past, like 10 episodes or so, we're in a new studio. 10
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  episodes. Yeah.
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  We've been. Bill, you're the second person
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  in here. Yeah, literally.
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  It's pretty second person ever to walk through that door.
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  Second person ever and. We're making changes every time,
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  so now we got different mic stands.
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  But what changed? What?
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  What changed this? Time this time you.
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  Put some stuff up. Put some stuff there because
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  people were mad that it was boring.
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  Boring. Yeah.
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  They're like, oh, it looks like you're in the office.
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  I'm like that's because we. Are we are.
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  In an office, We're literally in an office.
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  We're in a you know what it's would you say the color choice
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  in here is kind of Office Y. I mean, yeah.
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  Why didn't you let Princess like?
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  It's OK though. It's fine.
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  I mean, like it's better than just like all white or like
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  light Gray. Or all black.
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  I feel like maybe we should have, like, some of that foam
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  shit that's in that fucking studio.
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  Dude, I think people go way too crazy with that.
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  No, no, no. Just a little bit just to get
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  rid of some of the echo. Is there echo in this room?
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  Like a tiny bit I feel like. I guess there is.
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  Had to burp. Oh.
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  You burp. Yeah, I didn't think it would be
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  polite. You.
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  Didn't want to like, let us hear it.
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  Yeah, I might burp. In like a few minutes.
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  I mean, that's cool. That's cool.
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  I just didn't know what you guys like, you know?
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  I don't know. Do we really have a from time?
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  Time passes and I'm like, what is the podcast now 'cause it's
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  just a bunch of. Nerds talking on on a table and
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  A and a mic. That's.
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  Just how it goes, yeah, but I was.
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  Really gonna use these mic? For for those of you who don't
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  know and as myself also didn't know, Bill does some pretty
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  interesting, what would you call?
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  Yeah. Or maybe there's this word I
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  used for the definition of. It is like a mix or so, but it's
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  eclectic, yeah. Oh, wow.
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  To. Suck my jazzy word?
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  Does that shock you? Yeah, a.
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  Little bit, Yeah, baby, I'm. Shocks me a little bit.
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  Dude. 6th grade vocab. 6th grade.
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  That was a 6th grade vocab word. I'm on like my 90 year old vocab
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  where like I'm just like food. Did your school, Did your school
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  do the word exercise shit? The word.
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  Exercise. What the hell was it called?
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  The workbooks? Wordly wise, that's what.
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  The no. Idea what that is.
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  I think I'm too old for that. Dude, it would be like, it'd
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  just be like complete the sentence type shit and then the
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  imagine a teacher, you have to like check over that and be
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  like, yeah, that looks pretty. Good.
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  You ever do a spelling bee? Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. Thank.
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  God, Bill said. Yes.
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  I never did one. If you weren't here.
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  That was like mandatory, like when we were.
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  A kid? What?
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  Yeah. Why we had spelling bees in
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  every single class. Like every classroom.
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  So like like I grew up in Pompton Lakes, so small town.
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  2nd grade was like 4 classrooms, right?
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  OK, Max. Right.
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  That's still, I feel like a lot of second graders.
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  Yeah, 102nd graders. No, I was like you know 1520
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  people in each class. So but like either way still
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  like every classroom in that grade had like their own
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  competition within each classroom in that grade and then
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  like if you won there was like a like a final.
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  You got like McDonald's for the day or something?
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  No, no. There's like a final against the
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  other classrooms that were in your grade.
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  No, I absolutely, I definitely remember some sort of structure
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  that way, but they didn't make us do that.
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  No, they made us do it. Do you remember any of the words
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  that you spelled wrong? I can tell you a word I spelled
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  wrong in the 5th grade spelling bee.
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  Dude, no, dude, I. Spelled.
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  Graffiti. Graffiti.
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  Spell it for me right now. Wait, what?
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  Right now, Malcolm, I need you to spell check I graffiti
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  because I know it. I don't think Malcolm needs to
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  spell check me now. I'm a little older than when I
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  was in the 5th grade. I don't know spell graffiti for
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  me right now. GRDAFF.
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  Or is that wrong already? I don't know.
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  Welcome, chick. This is what I'm talking.
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  About ETT I I don't know something.
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  No, you definitely got it wrong. There's no E in graffiti.
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  There's no E. At all It's GRAPHET.
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  E not e.g. RFPG.
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  RA. FITI or TTI?
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  I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's a TT I I
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  just don't know if it's an FF. Or I think.
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  It's. 1. I thought it was TS.
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  I forget. What do we got there?
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  Here we go F. FIF.
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  S1 TI got it right the second time.
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  All right. Yeah, I would have said that
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  there was two TS. Yeah, I felt like an idiot.
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  I just moved to the new school, OK?
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  I've never seen a school that looked like this.
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  I went from Jersey City to Ramsey, not far from Pompton
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  Lake. Yeah.
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  Yeah, one floor. The school was.
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  Right. Yeah, that's how it.
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  Was really weird. It was really weird to me.
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  Like I was like, what the fuck? Anyway, they they made me 5th
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  grade. The school was four and five.
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  I came from a school where it was kindergarten to 8.
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  Oh yeah, Kid 8. Yeah, like like I went to
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  Catholic school. You didn't go to Catholic
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  school? No, I went to Catholic school
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  till the 4th grade. I don't remember anything from
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  it. Yeah, well, that's like I yeah,
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  I feel like it. Didn't make you a better person.
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  I feel like other than like the parties and like middle school,
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  high school stuff. What you had parties at in in
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  middle school? Probably, yeah, like we.
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  What kind of parties are you partaking in in middle school?
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  Dude, we started drinking in like fifth grade.
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  What the fuck yeah? That's definitely a thing.
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  Yeah, No. That's sick.
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  You could probably drink like an animal nowadays.
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  Well, I mean now. It's just maybe not now.
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  I drank too much. Yeah, we.
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  Just talked about. This, yeah, this goes down to
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  the the whole body shutting down on me a couple of years ago
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  because I've been drinking way too much and just eating like
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  shit. But.
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  Well, now you're back, probably on the rise.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I had to do something, dude.
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  I like, I like walked into the shop one day, worked on a car,
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  did like the easiest thing I could do, which was like try to
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  take a mid pipe off a car, you know, like just like little,
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  like three times like this. And my whole arm locked up all
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  the way into my neck. I couldn't move.
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  Like. It was like a weird like and it
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  wasn't like a cramp. It was like just stopped working
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  and I was just like OK, got to go.
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  Is that? Technically a stroke.
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  Did you have a? Stroke.
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  Well, that's kind of like what I was worried about, right?
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  It was like, oh man, am I having a hard AM.
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  I having a hard. Time Hospital this sounds like.
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  Hospital stuff? No.
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  Like went the doctor the next day, you know, got like blood
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  work. You know what was the?
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  Situation. I was just like deficient on
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  everything, like no good, like low on every vitamin possible in
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  your body. Like she, my doctor, was just
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  like, you need to be like, gluten free.
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  Gluten. Free.
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  Yeah, like, she's like, you need to do.
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  This with gluten. Hold on, Why did you Why did you
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  get offended? Why is everything gluten free
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  always in? No, it's not.
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  What the? Fuck people eat gluten like.
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  Hell, explain it to. Me.
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  The reality is, is that Gluten's in everything, so it's just
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  like, you know? So you got to be gluten free.
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  You can't be. Well, that's the thing, right?
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  So like me. Sorry, Malcolm just cracked.
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  He's popping. Now you heard.
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  It popping beers as we're talking about.
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  You can't drink beers. Malcolm can.
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  Yeah, where's that Malcolm can what's?
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  Hot oh damn, that camera shows me.
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  Malcolm. You got to.
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  Change that shit. You got to put that up.
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  I. I'm working on.
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  It yeah, because that shit is terrible.
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  Now it really looks like we're in office.
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  Yeah, Can you get that beer? Looks.
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  Like, can you see my screen? OK.
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  All right. Back to the conference.
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  But but yeah, no. I mean like meat is gluten free.
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  Steak, chicken, you know. There's no yeah, meat is not
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  made out of potatoes. Are gluten free like a nice all
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  the shit I eat. Nice doughnut.
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  Potato. Totally gluten full.
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  Isn't a potato? What is the definition of
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  gluten? Oh gosh, I don't know.
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  Do we really have? You failed the spelling.
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  You failed the spelling bee. I did fail the spelling bee.
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  I don't know like cause, 'cause. I thought.
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  I thought, I'm going to sound so fucking tall.
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  Everyone that, everyone that comes on this podcast, they
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  think they're going to be talking about cars and we end up
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  talking about. Bullshit, I thought.
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  We already got got past that. Me, I already know what Bill's
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  about. He has an ST185 Celica.
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  Sick, sick. Not a lot of people have that.
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  Yeah. He's a cool guy.
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  Not to change subjects, but I heard you guys talking about
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  driving somewhere or something in South.
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  Jersey Powerman. Oh, is that where you were?
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  Talking about, yeah, we're talking about Harriman.
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  And we're also talking about when, where I learned how to
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  drift because the. Oh, right, you guys shop is in,
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  you say WW Berlin. Yeah.
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  W Berlin, we're not commies. We're, we're, we're on the West
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  side. We're good.
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  The good side? Yeah, I don't know shit about
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  nothing, so. Frankie's It's OK.
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  The. Wall's down.
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  I'm. I'm looking right at Frankie,
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  Like, am I saying something? Good.
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  It's OK. It doesn't matter anymore.
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  Oh, thank God. Thank God.
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  Thank God. Thank God, no.
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  But yes, South Jersey. I was explaining how that's
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  where I learned how to drift, and I named the town and the
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  warehouses that were down there that were being constructed and
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  that now they're all probably done.
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  So now it's like you can't drift there anymore.
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  So it's all construction zone. Yeah, there's a.
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  Lot of that going on. Down there.
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  Why? Were.
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  Why were you down there? Oh, because of.
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  College. Yeah, I was.
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  I was there for college, OK? Were you guys already?
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  When was broken? Motorsports established. 2008.
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  Damn, I was like, in diapers still.
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  No, you were not. He was He was spelling things
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  wrong on a spelling bee. He might have been, you were
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  probably like. 14 I am actually pretty good at spelling.
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  Tessa, give me any fucking word. Graffiti.
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  He looked up. He looked.
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  Up at the. Screen to see if it was there.
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  No, everyone. Knows.
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  The dude, I know I just come on GRA.
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  Graffiti, GRAFFITI, graffiti. Use it in a sentence.
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  Use it in a sentence. Yes, you I'm telling you to use
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  it, no. No, you use it in a sentence.
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  We're not playing this game. All right, fair enough.
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  Hey, 2008 graffiti. 2008 was a while ago.
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  Yeah, it's been a minute. All right.
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  It's been a minute. It's like 30 years ago.
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  It. Feels like it feels like.
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  That right dude. 2008 What the fuck was going on at that time?
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  Recession. Yeah.
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  Best time to open up? Yeah, that's kind of crazy.
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  Well, you're still here. Somehow.
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  Forged by fire. Yeah, yeah.
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  Like Actual. Maybe.
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  Like I would have fucking burned myself.
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  I That was probably horrible. What was that like?
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  I don't know. I left my 6 figure job at a
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  major automotive manufacturer as an engineer and decided to just
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  do the shop. Wow.
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  See. Damn.
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  You did that leap. Yeah.
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  Fuck. Yeah.
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  I talked to a lot of people about this leap where it's like,
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  it is you you, you let the two like mix, hike, hobby and Oh
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  yeah, like hobby and career. Yeah, yeah.
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  Well, it sounds like you already had mixed it, but it's
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  different. Yeah, it's different.
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  You're it sounds like you're an engineer.
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  I did it. I was there for like 5 years,
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  right? It's.
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  A long time. It was a long time.
• 17:03
  It's the only desk job I've ever had.
• 17:05
  And when the recession hit, they started just pulling back on
• 17:08
  programs like left and right, right.
• 17:10
  They're trying to make themselves profitable by
• 17:13
  basically pulling funding from different things and stuff.
• 17:16
  So you know, the job was great for the first two, 2, 1/2 years
• 17:20
  and then it kind of just went downhill.
• 17:22
  And I don't know, I guess I left there 2010.
• 17:27
  So like, I'd get there at like 8:30 in the morning, work till
• 17:31
  430, jump in the car, try to beat as much traffic as I could
• 17:34
  down to GSP, get to the shop, you know?
• 17:37
  So you worked. At 5:00 to 10/5 to 11.
• 17:41
  At the shop 05 to 11 yo two, 3:00 in the morning every night.
• 17:45
  You're bugging. And then weekends I would spend
• 17:48
  Saturdays and Sundays. I'd spend so much time at the
• 17:51
  shop Saturdays and Sundays that I would almost make more hours
• 17:56
  in the two days that I'd work than I would at the shop.
• 17:59
  Like you got to signal like at at at the time.
• 18:04
  Probably not. Yeah, you did.
• 18:07
  OK, Frankie, there's Hope. What an Angel.
• 18:11
  That's all I was thinking about. Like Jesus Christ.
• 18:14
  That's a lot of work. Oh.
• 18:16
  Dude, no. I was putting in hundred 120
• 18:18
  hour weeks on the regular. So you had the shop before you
• 18:22
  quit? Yeah.
• 18:24
  OK. Yeah, I tried to hold out for as
• 18:26
  long as I could because really that was like my race money.
• 18:28
  Yeah, getting paid every two weeks, that was my race money.
• 18:32
  I was able to go do ton of racing like and.
• 18:34
  What were you focused on when you got the shop?
• 18:37
  Was it rally racing? Yeah, pretty much, yeah.
• 18:40
  So what were you racing at the time, like the chassis, do you
• 18:44
  have just one so? I actually in O8, right?
• 18:48
  I spent like basically the year building up the shop again and
• 18:52
  everything, or just building up the shop.
• 18:55
  I mean, I had a reputation. I was basically working a lot
• 18:57
  out of like my my mom's garage and driveway at home.
• 19:00
  And I just said, you know, like enough's enough.
• 19:04
  I got to just get a shop, like, you know, so but yeah, so I I
• 19:09
  didn't have like an actual race car at that time, like in O 8
• 19:15
  but O nine. I went back to rallying with a
• 19:18
  bug eye WX. Good car.
• 19:21
  What do you how do you? I always.
• 19:25
  I'm just going to be upfront about this, but where do you
• 19:27
  practice? That, yeah, like.
• 19:29
  What? What is rallying?
• 19:31
  How do you do it? Actually, actually.
• 19:33
  Not, not going to lie. I feel like I know a couple of
• 19:35
  places where I'm actually not off the top of my head.
• 19:37
  Definitely could do it. The turn and do the dirt.
• 19:39
  You. Know.
• 19:39
  Yeah, but like, especially around here.
• 19:41
  And your shop was in what town again?
• 19:43
  So shop was in. West Bay.
• 19:45
  Union City. Union City.
• 19:46
  Oh, before, yeah. Because for those of you who
• 19:49
  don't know, that Bill was up here.
• 19:52
  It's just funny that it was like in Union City, but it's a rally
• 19:55
  and you're in Jersey. I'm like, where the fuck are you
• 19:57
  practicing? You might.
• 19:59
  He will. Where that is.
• 20:01
  Now now you're probably closer to more stuff, I feel like.
• 20:04
  Yeah, I mean I'm I'm so my house is 3 miles from Batstow village.
• 20:08
  You know Batstow village, you talk about off road and down
• 20:11
  there. Is that is that place cool?
• 20:12
  I'm. I'm.
• 20:13
  Like more state forest. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 20:16
  yeah. Yeah.
• 20:16
  We went to Sarco the other the other couple weeks ago I.
• 20:19
  Don't know what that is either. Dude, it was fun.
• 20:22
  I'll show you pictures. But yeah, no, I mean I'm, I'm,
• 20:25
  I'm closer to dirt. But like down there it's more
• 20:27
  like off roading. It's not really like rally type
• 20:29
  roads. There's like huge holes.
• 20:31
  I'll put you on. I'll put you on I.
• 20:33
  Got. A spot.
• 20:33
  Let's try. All right.
• 20:36
  Yeah. I mean, you know, up here, like
• 20:37
  North Jersey when when I was living up here.
• 20:42
  I mean, I lived up here my whole life.
• 20:43
  So like I found every Dirt Rd. possible on a map.
• 20:47
  You know, that was in North Jersey.
• 20:49
  How often were you at at the hotel?
• 20:52
  That was by my where I was from. You know what I'm talking.
• 20:55
  About where I got by Ramsey. Yeah.
• 20:58
  What You're talking about like the Sheridan?
• 20:59
  Yeah, dude. You know that's out of business.
• 21:01
  Now you're going to blow it up or something.
• 21:03
  Yeah, I heard that. Wait, can we find out when that
• 21:05
  is? That's.
• 21:06
  Crazy. We should go.
• 21:07
  That's crazy. That place has been like a huge
• 21:09
  a state, like a beacon, dude, you know?
• 21:12
  I moved to Ramsey probably around 2010, 2009.
• 21:17
  Yeah, yeah, that's the first thing I saw.
• 21:19
  It was like, what the fuck is that?
• 21:21
  Yeah, what is that spaceship went?
• 21:22
  Bad. Sweet 16, isn't that there?
• 21:24
  Yeah, yeah. No, that's crazy.
• 21:27
  Dude, yeah, no. Going back.
• 21:28
  There was probably one of my first times.
• 21:29
  Like being like, yeah, damn off road is kind of fun.
• 21:32
  Yeah, a lot of off roading over there.
• 21:33
  Yeah, drive. But not real like rally.
• 21:36
  Stuff. No, no.
• 21:36
  Yeah, it's just off roading. Stuff.
• 21:38
  I took my Subaru WRX over there once.
• 21:40
  Bye guy. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:42
  We're talking about this spot openly now because I feel like
• 21:44
  it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
• 21:45
  They're probably, yeah. That place is going to be
• 21:47
  condominium complex. We're not going there.
• 21:49
  We should. I'm not going.
• 21:50
  There, yo, let's. Send the Chevy.
• 21:52
  No. This is why I wish.
• 21:54
  Chris was here, yo. I have a story and and Chris was
• 21:58
  there that day like in his old Xterra.
• 22:01
  What'd you get dude? It was.
• 22:03
  Why is it? What did you guys do right away?
• 22:06
  Because you. Fuck some of them, No.
• 22:08
  No, we were just having. A good time.
• 22:10
  Is that possible? Like, for you?
• 22:13
  Insane. OK, something happened.
• 22:14
  Anyway, we're going through the track and we run into these
• 22:19
  guys, a bunch of, like, a big group of Hispanic guys.
• 22:23
  None of them spoke English, but like, you got the common ground
• 22:29
  of, hey, we're all here illegally.
• 22:33
  Don't where we're having a good time.
• 22:35
  Fuck it. Maybe they're they were there
• 22:38
  different illegally than. We were.
• 22:40
  Maybe. But all on common ground, hey,
• 22:43
  they were. Stashed.
• 22:44
  They were stashed in bodies. Yeah.
• 22:46
  Totally. But this is what this is.
• 22:47
  What they had, they had I think it was a a Ford Explorer like,
• 22:51
  not the good Gen. like. It was like the one that blows.
• 22:55
  Up the original Ford exploder, The Exploder.
• 22:58
  I had two of those. Did they explode?
• 23:00
  Why? How did you not learn after the
• 23:03
  first? 1.
• 23:04
  Why would you buy a second? Well, we we had two at the same
• 23:07
  time. They were the sports and they
• 23:10
  were both. So they were two door, 5 speed
• 23:12
  cars, 4 wheel. Drive.
• 23:13
  Oh, you got the fuck. What would you call that?
• 23:16
  The type. X you got the type X.
• 23:18
  You. Got the Hatch?
• 23:21
  Yeah. No, I mean.
• 23:24
  They. Were that thing was ripping too,
• 23:26
  now 90. Four, they would do this model
• 23:29
  years and that was like 98. They would, they would park it
• 23:32
  like in the water. I don't know if you remember
• 23:34
  what it's like a little further in the sheriff you could get
• 23:36
  like in a river type of situation.
• 23:38
  Remember the river? They would put it in the water,
• 23:40
  like park it. I don't know.
• 23:42
  Again, I don't know shit about off roading at this time.
• 23:44
  I still don't. But like they would park it and
• 23:46
  then just like put it in a second and just like and just
• 23:53
  just like let it rip. What were they?
• 23:54
  Doing like 20 times. I don't know.
• 23:57
  I told you there was a language barrier.
• 23:58
  Just. Like a park it in the water and
• 23:59
  then Cove. Yeah, right.
• 24:01
  And they would drive like halfway out into the river and
• 24:03
  turn around and come back. I'm like, you know you could
• 24:06
  bring you're not getting anything accomplished.
• 24:09
  You're I feel like if you're crossing the river, why wouldn't
• 24:11
  you just go all the way across the river?
• 24:13
  That spot used to you used to be able to get away with a lot in
• 24:15
  that spot. Like you're.
• 24:17
  Yeah, you would you you fucked around him.
• 24:19
  I used. To quad there when I was young.
• 24:21
  You're a quad guy. Yeah, you.
• 24:22
  Didn't just ride a dirt bike. No, I wish.
• 24:25
  I wish I did. Quads and dirt bikes too.
• 24:28
  Would you rather have a quad or a dirt bike?
• 24:30
  Depends on what you're doing, I think.
• 24:32
  I never really got to ride a dirt bike.
• 24:34
  Yeah, dirt. Bikes seem a lot more fun, but
• 24:36
  definitely more dangerous. Yeah, damn.
• 24:38
  Yeah, until the quad wants to roll on you, on you, and.
• 24:41
  Which I've seen happen to someone too.
• 24:42
  Almost took his Dick off. Yeah, how it got stuck.
• 24:46
  You can't just. I don't know what they.
• 24:48
  Yeah. Like he did.
• 24:50
  Something like he went over something and the the whole
• 24:52
  fucking quad came over and it literally landed on him and like
• 24:56
  the handlebar was like right by his fucking.
• 24:58
  Dude, I was like, I can't. That's not ripped, dude.
• 25:01
  Dude, he said. He got off and he was just like,
• 25:03
  so scared. He got off and like his his, he
• 25:05
  was just pinched. He, like, took his pants off
• 25:07
  right away. Oh my.
• 25:08
  God, yeah, he's still there. Yeah, maybe the handlebars kind
• 25:11
  of like nipped him on the way down or?
• 25:13
  Something I remember he was. Scared.
• 25:15
  Shitless. The the whole like double
• 25:17
  checking thing just just awoke like a really bad member, you
• 25:21
  know? You ever have one of those bad
• 25:23
  falls where that happens? We gotta check your nuts.
• 25:25
  Do you snowboard or ski, Bill? Yeah.
• 25:27
  Which one ski? Oh, I'm glad you're here, 'cause
• 25:30
  we could talk about this, you fucking.
• 25:32
  What is? What is the word?
• 25:34
  Oh, what is? It.
• 25:36
  They're talking about. Yeah.
• 25:38
  Do you know that Disney movie? Johnny Kapahala.
• 25:40
  Johnny Tsunami. It's like, I don't think I've
• 25:43
  seen this one. It's.
• 25:44
  Like some skiing and snowboard fucking movie and they have like
• 25:46
  nicknames for the other fucking but.
• 25:49
  So the snowboarders are the urchins and like the skiers or
• 25:52
  the skies or whatever, Frankie put this movie on the day before
• 25:55
  we went snowboarding, hopefully getting training.
• 25:58
  Yeah, man. That was the first time I
• 26:00
  snowboarded, and it was. You did pretty fucking good.
• 26:03
  Like I didn't. We didn't really get any runs
• 26:05
  with each other. He just stayed with Jesse,
• 26:06
  probably so that I wouldn't make fun of him.
• 26:08
  Carl was also on another level, so he was.
• 26:10
  I was just having a good. Time doing his own but.
• 26:13
  Yeah, I I rarely get to. I said I was going to have a
• 26:16
  good time. But like, when you go there and
• 26:18
  you're learning how to do one, you're watching the other
• 26:20
  people. So you're watching skiers and
• 26:21
  you're like, yeah, which one is easier?
• 26:23
  I don't know. Like I'm trying to figure it
• 26:24
  out. Do you have any input?
• 26:28
  Do you? Have any input?
• 26:29
  Yeah. I for me, right?
• 26:32
  Like I I've tried both. I've I've, I've been skiing my
• 26:35
  whole life. But like when I tried
• 26:37
  snowboarding and keep in mind, I surf.
• 26:40
  I skateboard my like when I was a kid like for.
• 26:43
  Years. And when I tried snowboarding, I
• 26:47
  mean, this is when I was like, you know, in the heyday of like
• 26:50
  my my snowboarding and surfing gears or not snowboarding,
• 26:54
  skateboarding and surfing years, I tried snowboarding and it was
• 26:57
  like, I bro, I couldn't do it. Dude.
• 27:00
  It is not. Keep in mind, technology back
• 27:03
  then was like very different. What do you need, Wade?
• 27:07
  Dude snowboard. What era is this So much?
• 27:10
  Oh my God. What, like 2004 Five, bro. 6.
• 27:15
  Seven, bro. How old are you, Bill?
• 27:17
  I actually have no idea. 42. What?
• 27:20
  Yeah, you and Frankie. I don't know if this is good,
• 27:23
  but like what? Old people on.
• 27:25
  The sewing table, bro. Do you guys?
• 27:27
  Look. I'm 33.
• 27:30
  He looks young, so he. He does look young.
• 27:32
  That's what you meant to say or. Yeah, I'm young.
• 27:35
  No, I'm, I'm 32. That was it was a mix up.
• 27:38
  Dude, what the fuck, Bill? You look fucking great.
• 27:41
  Well, thank you. I guess you must try to pick me
• 27:44
  up or something. You said you want to Take Me Out
• 27:45
  to dinner later. Dude, you.
• 27:46
  Must have a little bit. Cut the gluten out and that was
• 27:48
  it. Right.
• 27:49
  Yeah, I mean, yeah, you said you did cut the gluten out.
• 27:52
  Maybe your got like a little that gave you like the little
• 27:54
  Benjamin Button thing. Yeah, I'm going backwards.
• 27:57
  Yeah, once you stop eating potatoes and.
• 27:59
  Shit. Yeah, yeah, Nah, That was
• 28:02
  probably like 94, dude. 94 Yeah, snowboards probably were just
• 28:06
  some straight wood plank. Dude, you probably were an
• 28:10
  urchin and a sky guy that that's when that was going on.
• 28:14
  Like the war between snowboarders and skiers that
• 28:16
  that exists back. There, that was a thing.
• 28:18
  For real. For real.
• 28:19
  So you had to choose. Yeah, I was a punk kid.
• 28:21
  I would hit fucking snowboarders in my poles all the fucking time
• 28:24
  going by them. Fucking just whack them.
• 28:28
  Holy. Crap.
• 28:29
  Yeah. What?
• 28:30
  Did you say that's kind of like racism but for snowboarding?
• 28:33
  Oh yeah, totally. That's kind of weird to me,
• 28:35
  yeah. I think it's just because.
• 28:37
  I mean things are. Very different now, you know, I
• 28:39
  mean, like, you know, it's not like it used to be.
• 28:40
  I mean, you go to like Vernon Valley, Great Gorge, you know,
• 28:43
  which is now Mountain Creek, right back then.
• 28:45
  The fact that you even it was. All free for all back then,
• 28:48
  dude. What do you mean free for all?
• 28:50
  Like you could stab somebody. In like, Oh yeah, pretty much.
• 28:53
  I mean, the pole. Like yo, you ever seen the
• 28:54
  action park movie? I didn't.
• 28:56
  Watch the. Movie, but did you watch that?
• 28:58
  No, no. No.
• 28:58
  All right. But you seen it.
• 28:59
  No. Oh, dude, you got to watch that.
• 29:01
  But cause 'cause that's all true, my buddy.
• 29:03
  'S dad would tell us stories about.
• 29:06
  That. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:06
  No that. But that's it.
• 29:07
  That's all I know about. Dude, yeah, no, that's all the.
• 29:09
  Stories you hear. Can you look?
• 29:11
  Up when Action Park was shut down.
• 29:12
  I have a weird memory that I was there Nah on that little.
• 29:17
  Slow on the on the last. Slide.
• 29:20
  Something yo the Alpine slide was the best.
• 29:22
  I have this you got. Memories.
• 29:23
  Of this shit. Dude, like Malcolm, if you pull
• 29:25
  up I. Was definitely there. 96.
• 29:28
  Definitely there. You have you have a memory.
• 29:30
  I'm telling you to do that luge thing.
• 29:32
  Whatever. Yeah, Alpine slide.
• 29:34
  You're telling me you remember going to the water park at age?
• 29:37
  Four no, not 5. Water park I I was at the other.
• 29:40
  I think they kept the Alpine slide open like they reopened it
• 29:43
  after action. Park close.
• 29:45
  That makes sense. But yeah, no.
• 29:47
  Like, not that shit, Malcolm. That shit is so shit, yo.
• 29:50
  For real. That's real.
• 29:51
  Oh no, this was a thing. Yeah.
• 29:53
  Did you hit that? So.
• 29:54
  Hell no. Oh my God.
• 29:56
  No, the week though, so we we would go there a couple times a
• 29:59
  year typically, right. But the the the week before we
• 30:03
  went, somebody got killed in this, right?
• 30:06
  So literally somebody come down, this didn't make it over, came
• 30:11
  back down. They sent another dude before
• 30:13
  that they seen the other guy come out.
• 30:15
  Oh my God. Like, and then people get stuck
• 30:19
  in that and yo, it was hot as hell in some of this stuff,
• 30:22
  right? You're talking middle in the
• 30:23
  summer. You're just baking in a black
• 30:25
  tube, dude. That just looks like a gigantic
• 30:27
  Did you redo you? Didn't go down to that.
• 30:29
  Hole. No.
• 30:29
  No. No.
• 30:30
  No. Hell no.
• 30:30
  The tube, The tube of death. No, this isn't real.
• 30:33
  Oh yeah. I like.
• 30:34
  They made that, but that was the only one in existence.
• 30:36
  And yeah, that was the only. One maybe they just kind of like
• 30:38
  threw look I'm. Looking at this.
• 30:41
  For those. Yeah, for audio listeners only,
• 30:43
  it's a picture of a of a slide with a loop de loop.
• 30:46
  I'm pretty sure Travis Pastrana did the same shit.
• 30:48
  This is like some intrusive thought this.
• 30:50
  Some intrusive thought shit though.
• 30:52
  Like like, I I've seen this. I've thought this.
• 30:55
  On this thing, Yeah, on this, this specific part they were
• 30:58
  talking about. It, yeah, yeah.
• 30:59
  They do talk about this in the. Movie.
• 31:01
  Maybe they. Did see the movie I.
• 31:02
  Don't know. So Action Park was a what was it
• 31:07
  like it Was it just a water park or?
• 31:09
  Really like a water? Park.
• 31:11
  Action only. Yeah, it was really a water
• 31:13
  park, right? So the water, there's seven
• 31:16
  lakes, like at the top of the mountain, right, that are ice
• 31:20
  cold, right. Ice cold.
• 31:22
  You hit the water, you freeze, dude, you go into shock.
• 31:26
  And that's no joke. Like, they talk about all this
• 31:28
  in the movie and I'm like, Oh my God, I remember all of this.
• 31:31
  Like, I remember going off that T rope thing, dropping in a pool
• 31:34
  of water and just like screaming because, like and then like I'm
• 31:38
  drowning because all the air is coming out of my lungs.
• 31:40
  I'm screaming, you know what I mean?
• 31:43
  They're like in the middle. Of the summer it was still ice
• 31:45
  cold. Oh my God dude, it was so cold.
• 31:48
  Kind of sick though. So cold, but like, you know,
• 31:50
  like the, like the ski area during the winter, it's owned by
• 31:53
  the same people. It's operated by the same people
• 31:55
  basically, right? So like.
• 31:56
  They're probably living rage. Back there?
• 31:58
  Oh dude, back in the day. Though cocaine was probably
• 32:00
  falling from the sky. Over there probably.
• 32:03
  I don't know. I.
• 32:03
  Was 1000% not? Yet I was a kid.
• 32:06
  Kid. Not that you were thinking about
• 32:07
  that. No, no, no.
• 32:08
  But you know, like the the what do you call it Heron.
• 32:13
  You know, like at night you're. Talking.
• 32:16
  You know, like night skiing They have like night skiing.
• 32:18
  Which doesn't exist everywhere else, by the way.
• 32:21
  No it doesn't. Thank God, that's just kind of
• 32:22
  sketchy. That's like, mostly, it's mostly
• 32:24
  like a Jersey PA thing. Like, you know, yeah, night
• 32:28
  skiing's fun, but like, no, like when back then, you know, now
• 32:33
  they close at like 9:00 or something, you know, like it's
• 32:36
  early, like 9:00, ten, o'clock, whatever.
• 32:39
  You know, I don't know what they're doing after COVID now,
• 32:40
  but like before they would be open till like on weekends or
• 32:46
  like Thursday, Friday, Saturday nights.
• 32:47
  They would be open till midnight or 1:00.
• 32:49
  They used to do like, they used to do this free for all, like
• 32:52
  one, like 24 hours. They'd be open like towards the
• 32:55
  end of the season every year. They would do this like crazy,
• 32:58
  like up all night, ski, party, drink, whatever.
• 33:02
  That's sick, dude. Yeah, no, it used to be fun.
• 33:04
  Why did that happen anymore? What did COVID produce that?
• 33:07
  All of I don't think it's COVID. I think it's just everybody's so
• 33:10
  sue happy in like the insurance stuff.
• 33:12
  Oh. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 33:14
  No, I was just talking about things closing early.
• 33:16
  It's, it's. Which is true.
• 33:17
  It's shit closing out. It was after COVID.
• 33:19
  I feel like everything that was fun to do at a certain time
• 33:22
  diners. Diners.
• 33:23
  I cannot believe diners are closed like at like 10:00
• 33:27
  literally. Where am I supposed to get a
• 33:29
  case? To go to over here right now
• 33:30
  like that's it. Where?
• 33:32
  The one in Hackensack chitchat. Chitchat, yeah.
• 33:35
  Which I fucking hate, So yeah. It's not a great diner.
• 33:39
  It's a good, great diner. After 9:00 or 10:00, when they
• 33:42
  give you the fucking late night menu, I'm like first of all, oh,
• 33:44
  they got. A late night menu now.
• 33:46
  The fuck are we doing? It's.
• 33:47
  Not even just a normal menu. No, no, dude.
• 33:50
  If you go at 9 or 8, you're going to be like, what the fuck?
• 33:53
  It's going to be a normal menu. What am I going to get
• 33:56
  differently here? Like you want me to get like?
• 33:57
  A pot roast. They got a lot of food on there.
• 33:59
  Like I got the same thing. Buffalo chicken wrap or
• 34:01
  something. Waffle.
• 34:02
  Fries. I don't know dude.
• 34:03
  That shit. I mean, the food is not bad.
• 34:05
  It's just the menu options on that late night menu.
• 34:08
  I'm like it's. Just because.
• 34:10
  It's just because Frankie can't get chicken franchise.
• 34:13
  No, that's not why, although that does sound good.
• 34:16
  Or capers. Or anything that resembles all
• 34:19
  the. Wraps everything.
• 34:20
  It's just fucking. There's like 2.
• 34:22
  You're like, dude, I don't want any of this shit.
• 34:24
  I like it if we. Go to chit, chat at night.
• 34:26
  I just get a burger. That's it.
• 34:27
  That's all I can do. Damn.
• 34:29
  But yeah, that's the only one. Everything else.
• 34:32
  Yeah. I mean, the one up the street
• 34:33
  that we go to all the time closes at 11, so that's not that
• 34:36
  bad. But like, I don't want to be
• 34:38
  checking my phone and looking to see when the diner closes.
• 34:42
  The whole point of the fucking diner is you just go there
• 34:44
  whenever you want. Every diner used to be 24 hours,
• 34:47
  and now every diner is, like, closed by ten.
• 34:50
  Yeah, sucks. I.
• 34:52
  If it's even there anymore. Right.
• 34:53
  Yeah. If it's even if it even made it
• 34:55
  through COVID, Yeah, yeah. So that's that's what I think of
• 34:58
  what COVID? I'm having a problem like right
• 35:00
  now where I can't think of spot where it's like, damn I can't
• 35:04
  wait to go. I want, I want to go here so
• 35:06
  badly. I'll I'll go here.
• 35:07
  That's my favorite food spot that I'm going to get this
• 35:10
  favorite food thing. And that's closed.
• 35:11
  And no, no, no. I just can't pick something in
• 35:13
  general because I feel like all food right now is just like,
• 35:16
  you're just like, oh, this is some savory food or that's some
• 35:19
  sweet food. Like nothing like, stands out to
• 35:21
  me anymore. I'm like, damn, I'm just
• 35:23
  fucking. I wonder when Halal guys in the
• 35:24
  city closed food. And Indian food for me, man.
• 35:27
  Your Thai food, that's like the. Exact shit that I don't want to
• 35:30
  eat. I feel like Indian food.
• 35:34
  I can't say anything cuz I never really had Indian food to be
• 35:37
  honest. Yeah, Thai food.
• 35:38
  I need food. No, I don't like it.
• 35:40
  I don't like Indian food because of the way that the flavors like
• 35:44
  intertwine with stuff. It's not really my cup of tea.
• 35:47
  Yeah, like, it's not that I don't like Curry.
• 35:49
  Like, I like maybe a different style of Curry.
• 35:51
  Like Filipino Curry kind of is the same thing as Japanese
• 35:54
  Curry. So I like that.
• 35:55
  Right. Yeah.
• 35:56
  Yeah. It's a different taste, yeah.
• 35:58
  Yeah. I think someone tried to give me
• 35:59
  like, sesame, something from a Thai place, and I was like, oh,
• 36:02
  that sounds like it'll be good. And then I ate it and I was
• 36:04
  like, this tastes. Like Sesame what?
• 36:06
  Something noodles or something I was like.
• 36:07
  What I like cold sesame noodles maybe.
• 36:09
  Something. Maybe some people, some places
• 36:12
  don't make it good though. Yeah.
• 36:13
  If if if somebody asked you, Frankie, what is the most exotic
• 36:17
  thing you've ever eaten? Do you have an answer to that or
• 36:20
  like? Exotic.
• 36:21
  Probably not. I no, I don't really have an
• 36:24
  answer for. Trying to think of what I've
• 36:25
  eaten, that's really fucking. I've had frog.
• 36:27
  You've ever had frog, You've had jellyfish?
• 36:29
  Like where? From the shore?
• 36:31
  Don't eat those, dude. I don't.
• 36:33
  Boxfish from Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, don't eat the don't eat
• 36:35
  the jellyfish off the Jersey Shore, please.
• 36:37
  I like to eat a frog, but I never have.
• 36:40
  Like, like Cook though, right? OK, I don't know what you I'm.
• 36:44
  I'd eat anything. No, you wouldn't.
• 36:47
  No, I wouldn't eat an insect, probably.
• 36:49
  An insect is probably where I'm going.
• 36:50
  To draw a line, I couldn't do the insect thing either.
• 36:52
  I got like a textured thing. I I I don't need a lot of stuff.
• 36:55
  Yeah, big on the texture thing. Don't eat a lot of stuff like
• 36:57
  biting into a chicken nugget and getting that piece of gristle is
• 37:00
  enough for me to be like I'm good on the nugs.
• 37:03
  For tonight, if I'm eating like, like steak, it's always like a
• 37:06
  family meal. If I'm if I'm on fear factor or
• 37:09
  something. Weird on it.
• 37:09
  I don't want. I don't want the fat.
• 37:11
  If I'm on Fear Factor and they're like here, here's a
• 37:13
  horse testicle or a cricket, I mean that testicle.
• 37:17
  Yeah, I. Know, I think I'd go for the.
• 37:19
  Cricket, I don't want anything to do with these fucking
• 37:21
  insects. You just want to put fucking.
• 37:23
  Balls in my mouth. Yo.
• 37:27
  No, seriously, I think I would though That's meat.
• 37:30
  Or some kind of protein of some sort.
• 37:33
  I know the bug I mean. Crickets are, too.
• 37:34
  But crickets are. Crickets, Yeah, are.
• 37:37
  Crickets like crazy. High on.
• 37:38
  Protein dude. Bugs.
• 37:39
  I don't. Oh fuck.
• 37:40
  With it, especially when you Malcolm, can you look up how
• 37:42
  much protein is in one cricket, please?
• 37:44
  Oh. Man, it's a lot.
• 37:45
  It's a crazy, shocking amount. Why?
• 37:47
  Why do I know that? I don't know.
• 37:49
  It must have been on a milk. I wonder why there's so much,
• 37:53
  bro. Is that a lot?
• 37:55
  16 grams of protein in a tiny ass cricket.
• 37:58
  What? A cricket is 70% protein, while
• 38:03
  beef is only the 40. Wow.
• 38:06
  That's crazy. That's like a tiny little.
• 38:09
  Stick a cricket protein bar. I'll eat that.
• 38:12
  I'm going to find that and I'm going to make you eat it.
• 38:15
  I'll. Probably eat it as long as
• 38:16
  there's no legs sticking out or anything, yeah.
• 38:19
  There probably isn't. Probably not.
• 38:20
  Did you see the packaging? Only time I eat the cricket.
• 38:22
  It looks like a Cliff. Bar.
• 38:25
  The end of the world. I'll eat a cricket.
• 38:27
  That's it. That's the only time.
• 38:29
  Dude, I don't know. That's coming soon, if it might.
• 38:31
  Be. That Instagram, Facebook outage
• 38:34
  thing the other day, I was like, I.
• 38:36
  Didn't even know. This gram Facebook thing
• 38:37
  yesterday. What happened?
• 38:39
  I saw something. Like it wouldn't refresh.
• 38:42
  The only reason I knew it was happening was because I I want
• 38:46
  to go check Facebook marketplace like I do every 5 minutes
• 38:49
  because I'm a crackhead. Yeah.
• 38:51
  Once he admits it. What can I buy?
• 38:52
  Yeah, What can I buy with the money?
• 38:53
  I don't. Have with the with the money I
• 38:54
  don't have. Yes, exactly.
• 38:55
  Oh, it sounds like you can relate to that.
• 38:57
  No, we, we, we. We talked about this already,
• 39:00
  but it didn't. It logged me out and I was like,
• 39:03
  oh OK, I guess somebody sending out my nudes.
• 39:05
  Yeah, it logged me out. I don't have nudes, but maybe
• 39:08
  there's AI now. Maybe somebody made it.
• 39:10
  Hopefully AI makes me like fucking look pretty decent.
• 39:13
  I got lucky, nothing logged me out or anything.
• 39:15
  How would you even know? You don't even check that shit.
• 39:18
  I do. I do like twice a day.
• 39:21
  Have you checked your Friendster?
• 39:24
  No, Carl, I didn't have a Friendster.
• 39:27
  Man, I haven't heard that in forever.
• 39:28
  I've built a fucking. Friendster.
• 39:31
  Doing a. Friendster, man.
• 39:32
  I don't think I did, actually. You don't think I?
• 39:34
  You don't think I know about? Myspace.
• 39:36
  That was it. Yeah.
• 39:36
  I. Definitely had a Myspace.
• 39:37
  Out of Myspace, I feel like I don't want to say this, but like
• 39:41
  I feel like we are that I my, or at least my generation is like
• 39:44
  that last I had a Myspace. Your yours is.
• 39:49
  Generation cause like when I had a Myspace, I was still kind of a
• 39:52
  kid. The thing is you're still
• 39:53
  millennial, so. Yeah, but like a tail end of it.
• 39:57
  But yeah, when I had a Myspace, I was definitely too young to be
• 40:00
  on Myspace, which is big Red flag right there.
• 40:05
  Definitely. Yeah, you were definitely too
• 40:07
  young. To know, yeah, I was like 13, 14
• 40:12
  maybe on Myspace, bro. What was your Myspace profile?
• 40:15
  Do you guys remember? I remember my shit.
• 40:17
  Do you? Remember.
• 40:17
  Do you remember your your song you had on your shit bill?
• 40:21
  What song did you have on your Myspace profile?
• 40:23
  God though. I don't know what.
• 40:25
  Bill Yeah, What? What song do you think?
• 40:27
  I don't know. What I don't know what Bill's
• 40:29
  into. Music wise?
• 40:30
  Yeah. What?
• 40:30
  What are what are you listening? I feel like you'd have some
• 40:32
  secrets. On that give.
• 40:33
  Me everything. Give me three people that you
• 40:35
  listen to maybe on your playlist right now.
• 40:38
  Ice Spice, You listening to that?
• 40:41
  What the hell is that? Spicy ice.
• 40:44
  What's that? I don't.
• 40:45
  I don't think I've ever even. Heard of that?
• 40:46
  No one knows who that is. Don't worry about it.
• 40:47
  No idea what That is an enigma. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll give you
• 40:50
  3 genres because that's like, all right.
• 40:53
  I listen to everything. Definitely some electronic shit,
• 40:55
  yeah. For sure electronic shit, but
• 40:59
  like drum and bass and jungle are pretty much my go to or like
• 41:01
  weird ghosts like or like super deep like dark ghost eye shit.
• 41:05
  OK. Like underground type.
• 41:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:08
  Yeah. Like, like underground rave,
• 41:09
  illegal like. Big time, big time bass.
• 41:12
  Like, super. Deep.
• 41:13
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a 90s electronic user
• 41:16
  like a 90s electronic. Music fucking 90s.
• 41:19
  Yeah, actually I'm from the 80s, but whatever, dude.
• 41:21
  The. 80s was sick, huh? But well, I mean, I right there.
• 41:25
  I grew up in a lot in electronic, you know, music.
• 41:29
  Yeah, development. I mean, it came from the 80s.
• 41:31
  Basically dude, I personally fucking love 80s music.
• 41:34
  That's one of my favorite genres.
• 41:37
  Yeah, I mean, I like the 80s, but I I it's definitely not like
• 41:40
  something I listen to all the time.
• 41:41
  So stuff that I listen to all the time for sure, like
• 41:43
  electronic music like that. Like I was.
• 41:46
  Damn, I got that. I got that right.
• 41:47
  Yeah, you did. Yeah.
• 41:48
  Listen. For you, listen to drum and bass
• 41:50
  on the way here and then alternative pretty regularly
• 41:56
  Grunge. You look like a grunge guy,
• 41:58
  'cause that was 90s that. Was Why does he look like a
• 42:00
  grunge guy? 'Cause he's a 90s guy.
• 42:02
  He's. Yeah.
• 42:03
  I mean, I had hair. You can't escape almost as long
• 42:05
  as yours when I was a kid. I I don't like.
• 42:08
  Grunge. No, I thought you were going to
• 42:10
  say your hair. Well, it was like a big thing
• 42:12
  then. But like, still, like, I don't
• 42:13
  even really like, listen to that too much now.
• 42:16
  I don't. Know, so you were into cars back
• 42:17
  then as well, like in? The I've been into cars since I
• 42:20
  was. So what were you whipping in
• 42:22
  like 90 or in, like, when when did you get like, your license
• 42:25
  technically was that like? OK, so before I had my license I
• 42:28
  already owned like 15 cars. That's sick you.
• 42:32
  So I started buying and. Selling cars when I was 12.
• 42:34
  I've been working on cars. Dude, would you buy a car from a
• 42:38
  12 if that's. What I mean?
• 42:40
  Fuck SO. I.
• 42:41
  Bought So ironically what? The fuck is going?
• 42:44
  On I don't have. I don't have my first car, but I
• 42:46
  have my second car, OK. Still.
• 42:48
  What was the car? Porsche 914.
• 42:51
  I bought it for three. 100 engine don't.
• 42:53
  Do you know what that is? No, it's the Porsche 9 gonna
• 42:55
  bring it up. The predecessor to the Boxster?
• 42:57
  Yeah, it was the what. Basically saved Porsche.
• 43:01
  There was a. Porsche.
• 43:01
  Not the 914 The Boxster saved Porsche.
• 43:03
  Yeah, but. The 914 there was this.
• 43:06
  There was this 9/14 driven by this guy who thought I thought
• 43:10
  was going to abduct. You Wow, that's cool as hell.
• 43:12
  Yeah. So mine is silver like kind of
• 43:16
  like that. One encyclopedia, that one.
• 43:19
  But I painted so mines like more like this, just like the sale
• 43:23
  panel. I'm looking at the headlights
• 43:25
  and trying to figure. Out what the new resto mod thing
• 43:28
  they made. You ever heard of the 914-6?
• 43:32
  What year was it? Yeah, he almost bought one
• 43:34
  actually up in Mawa. Had a 9/11 motor, dude.
• 43:37
  I think I know. I think.
• 43:39
  It's you know where all the mansions are like.
• 43:41
  Yeah, my dad. Like 202?
• 43:43
  Yeah, my dad had a 9/11, like a 84, right?
• 43:47
  OK. And so there was like a little
• 43:48
  community that he was like a part of where there's like
• 43:52
  people with that. So you know, like where the
• 43:53
  mansions are in Mawa, like just off 202, like if you're going
• 43:56
  202 N, you make the right into like the mansions up on the hill
• 43:59
  or whatever they're over there on that road.
• 44:02
  There used to be this guy that had like a like a shed, you
• 44:06
  know, like I called a shed like a big shop outside of his house,
• 44:09
  right. Kind of rundown place like kind
• 44:11
  of looked a little like junk Yardy, you know, eventually the
• 44:14
  Mawa, you know, like owners, community, whatever probably got
• 44:18
  him kicked out or whatever. Because I.
• 44:20
  Don't think that place is there anymore.
• 44:22
  Yeah, I don't think that place is there anymore, but that dude
• 44:24
  had a 914 six with like GT flares on it sitting in like his
• 44:32
  yard. Just sitting?
• 44:33
  Yeah. Covered in Moss, Probably
• 44:35
  covered in algae or whatever the hell grows on it.
• 44:37
  So I bought I bought my 914 my first 9/14 when I was 12300
• 44:41
  bucks and I built it through I built it.
• 44:44
  Through 300 beans. We weren't even a teenager.
• 44:49
  No, Yeah. What was I buying at 12?
• 44:51
  Probably like a McDonald's meal or something.
• 44:54
  Yeah, and then? Saved our money.
• 44:56
  Yeah, that 914 six with the with the wide body on it.
• 44:59
  Or like I say wide body, but like the factory GT look thing
• 45:02
  like the dude just had it sitting there and like one day I
• 45:05
  said oh, I'm going to go knock on his door, see how much he
• 45:07
  wanted for it. And like, keep in mind I paid
• 45:09
  $300.00 for my 914, right? Of course, didn't run or
• 45:12
  whatever, you know? But kind of the same situation
• 45:15
  where I was just like sitting in a field for a while, you know,
• 45:18
  this dude wanted like 10 grand for that car.
• 45:21
  Yeah. And back then that was like,
• 45:24
  that's crazy. Money.
• 45:26
  Back then, yeah, like I could. I could buy a running 911 for
• 45:28
  that much back then. You know what I mean?
• 45:30
  That's probably around what my dad?
• 45:32
  Paid. I could probably buy a 964 for
• 45:34
  not much beyond that, to be honest, I was.
• 45:37
  I was looking for some reason AT96 fours around like a 2000.
• 45:41
  And 996 fours, I mean. 96 fours were like 12 grand in like 2007.
• 45:45
  In 2008, it was sick. No, everything.
• 45:47
  So yeah, I mean, that's, do you know what?
• 45:49
  964 is Frankie. Yeah.
• 45:52
  Is that the 80s, Nine, 11? No, that's that's a that's AG.
• 45:57
  Oh God. 964 is a 30. 6/4. Is it?
• 46:01
  Is it a 911 or no? Yeah, it is a 911.
• 46:05
  So, yeah, it's like from 9089 to OK.
• 46:08
  That's early 90s, three. So yeah, my.
• 46:11
  Favorite. One, That's what I was thinking
• 46:12
  of. Yeah, it's kind of like you
• 46:13
  could always tell because it's got this is the best one too.
• 46:16
  It's like A36 turbo car. But yeah, that's you could
• 46:20
  always tell by the by the like the side skirt, right.
• 46:24
  Like, that's like the dead giveaway on a 964, but you know,
• 46:28
  and then they start at 993. 993 is the the one is the airscale.
• 46:32
  494 to 97. Yeah, I like this one the most.
• 46:37
  Something like that. But yeah, I, I where, you know
• 46:39
  in Pompton, I grew up, guy had a 36R turbo like that black one
• 46:43
  right there and dude would come down the hill every day like wow
• 46:46
  you know with that thing like Oh my God dude.
• 46:48
  But yeah, yeah. Anyways, yeah, the. 9/14.
• 46:52
  Sixes are super cool. They're crazy money.
• 46:54
  Now I if I had 10 grand back then I you know, But you know,
• 46:58
  it's like, it's like how many cars you know when you were
• 47:01
  growing up, How many cars are worth so much more now you know?
• 47:05
  It's like, oh, if we knew. I got.
• 47:07
  That's. Dude, everybody who had a 914, I
• 47:10
  feel like back then was like, no, I'm not saying that.
• 47:14
  You're weird. Bill Oh no, no, this.
• 47:16
  Shit, I'm weird. But I I knew another guy with a
• 47:21
  914 and it was. I mentioned I went to school in
• 47:24
  South Jersey at Rowan. There was this guy we just
• 47:27
  finished painting my body kit. I bought this body kit for like
• 47:30
  $64 and like we like pieced it together.
• 47:34
  I watched a couple videos on how fiberglass worked so bad.
• 47:38
  Anyway, we forgot to put the back plate back on the car and
• 47:41
  we went to go get gas. 9/14 I think it was a six unless he
• 47:46
  made it that way. Yeah, a lot of people do that.
• 47:49
  Pulls right in. I'm like, Oh my God, I've seen
• 47:51
  this car before. I could talk to the owner.
• 47:53
  The owner comes right up. It's this guy gets out skinny
• 47:56
  dude. Long white hair, like picture
• 47:59
  Frankie's hair, but like long white.
• 48:01
  Hair. So Magnus Walker walked out.
• 48:02
  Skinny as fuck. Sig, I'm right next to the gas
• 48:06
  pump. Sig in the mouth.
• 48:09
  You guys all right? Bah Bah Bah starts talking to
• 48:12
  me. He's like, yeah, I got AI, got a
• 48:14
  recording studio right up the road.
• 48:16
  I know where the car is. It's like a bunker looking
• 48:20
  building and that's in front of it.
• 48:22
  And he's like, yeah, I got a recording studio starts talking
• 48:24
  to me about it. My my own roommate that was
• 48:26
  there, he plays his sax, he's good at music.
• 48:29
  He starts talking about music. Sexy sax man Saxo Graham.
• 48:32
  He starts talking about fucking. He starts talking about having
• 48:35
  like crazy artist that we're going through there, like like
• 48:39
  crazy bands during the 80s, just rolling up, going all the drugs
• 48:43
  and. Shit, 914, yeah. 9/14 9:14 and
• 48:47
  and. There's like. 911.
• 48:49
  Yeah, you guys should come by and we'll record something.
• 48:52
  That's when I was like, all right, buddy, that was sick.
• 48:55
  But I'm going to get a record. I'll come.
• 48:57
  Yeah, sure, whatever. But I want to know why you
• 48:59
  mentioned your front. Your back plate was off.
• 49:01
  Because I wanted to go back immediately, like the moment
• 49:05
  that I went around the car to like I, you know, I probably
• 49:08
  went to go take a picture of it. I'm like, look at it, It's done.
• 49:10
  Oh wait, there's no. And then I'm like, oh.
• 49:12
  Oh. Damn, there's no plate on it.
• 49:14
  And like, you know, I was scared to.
• 49:16
  What Car was? That commit a crime back then?
• 49:18
  S13 Coupe with ASR. The body kit was really coops
• 49:24
  for life, yeah. Yeah, not a Hatch guy.
• 49:28
  Don't like Hatch? Yeah.
• 49:30
  Don't like hatches? Hatch looks like a sports car
• 49:33
  Like it's. Like, that was a thing, though.
• 49:34
  Everyone wanted a coupe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:37
  I feel like it's going the other way now.
• 49:39
  Why? Why?
• 49:41
  Because it's rigidity. I don't.
• 49:43
  Oh, yeah. I mean that's that's, I mean
• 49:45
  there's. Many reasons more rigid than
• 49:46
  that. People are analyzing.
• 49:47
  Many reasons to have a coupe over a hatch.
• 49:50
  Name one other reason besides rigidity.
• 49:54
  A lot of people like the Sylvia front end.
• 49:58
  But you can do a sill lady, Yeah, I agree.
• 50:01
  Yeah. Ricardo's the only one that has
• 50:03
  one that I like because it looks OEM.
• 50:05
  Yeah, they some some of them look good.
• 50:07
  Well, literally. Like, I can count them on one
• 50:10
  hand, but they're they are out there, hey?
• 50:14
  Look, I finally got back to talking about cars.
• 50:16
  Look. At that, Yeah, it it happened
• 50:18
  it. Does come back.
• 50:19
  Sometime. But I wanted to know, you got
• 50:21
  the shop. I'm sure we're still going to
• 50:23
  talk about before that because you were literally 12 when you
• 50:25
  bought your first car, which is insane to me still.
• 50:28
  But you get the shop. What are you focused on?
• 50:31
  Is drifting in your life yet at that time?
• 50:34
  Oh boy. So I was always the stubborn kid
• 50:39
  that wanted to go rally. Yeah.
• 50:40
  And. Why is that stubborn?
• 50:44
  Because I should have just went the easy path and I should have
• 50:46
  just went to drifting. And I do and I say that and I
• 50:50
  say that because when drifting really got started here like in
• 50:58
  the USI say here the US like I was there I was, I was at E Town
• 51:07
  for the first drift day they ever.
• 51:08
  Had so you went to that D1G or D?
• 51:10
  One Oh yeah, no. I was at D1.
• 51:12
  GPI was at the first, like parking lot events that they
• 51:15
  ever had. I was there the day they like,
• 51:18
  you know, sign Forsberg. That's.
• 51:20
  So crazy. The first time anybody got
• 51:22
  sponsored for like legit. Like, for real, I just watched a
• 51:25
  video the other day on on YouTube.
• 51:28
  I don't know who made this playlist, but it's like a bunch
• 51:31
  of 2000s YouTube videos. And there was a play.
• 51:34
  There was a video. I sent it to you.
• 51:35
  Did you watch any? Of it.
• 51:36
  Did you watch it yet? I know it's long, so I didn't
• 51:38
  know he's going to know the video.
• 51:40
  It was a drift alliance. Bad as hell, OK?
• 51:43
  It was like an hour long film. It's sick as fuck.
• 51:46
  Type it in on YouTube. There's a few movies that they
• 51:49
  have and I. Didn't know.
• 51:50
  I didn't know about that. Yeah, they put out a few DVDs
• 51:53
  and stuff. Yeah.
• 51:55
  I mean like Drift Alliance used to be like a massive like.
• 51:58
  You know. Drift group.
• 51:59
  I didn't know about a lot of them in that way, like like Tony
• 52:05
  Angelo, like I didn't really know who that was.
• 52:07
  Yeah, yeah. Or or Ryan Hampton, right?
• 52:10
  Like who looks like a good time in the video.
• 52:13
  Oh yeah, yeah, it looks like a good time.
• 52:15
  Like, I I I was like, yeah, dude, that guy knows how to
• 52:18
  fucking park. Holy shit.
• 52:20
  Yeah. No, I mean like Trip Alliance, I
• 52:25
  think just kind of like everybody just kind of grew
• 52:26
  apart because. Well, they all did big stuff.
• 52:30
  No, no, no. I mean, they all did great
• 52:31
  stuff. I mean, Tony Angelo, you know,
• 52:33
  eventually became, you know, like just recently, you know, he
• 52:37
  was like, I don't know, a year or two ago, he was like the the
• 52:41
  host of like the Hot Rod TV show.
• 52:43
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is insane, 'cause I I for
• 52:46
  me that's insane, right? Because I grew up watching like
• 52:50
  Hot Rod shows with my dad, you know what I mean?
• 52:53
  So like for me to like wake up on a Saturday morning and watch,
• 52:57
  you know how to modify or lightly modify or whatever, you
• 53:01
  know, a car, you know, usually you know, pre 60s stuff back
• 53:05
  then, you know, as a kid. And then to have Tony, it's like
• 53:11
  somebody I know ends up being like a blend, end up being the
• 53:15
  show like host, like dude, it's still mind blowing to me.
• 53:19
  Like, that's so cool. I didn't know who that was.
• 53:21
  So I did it kind of backwards. Like I saw an episode, I saw
• 53:24
  this episode where they brought the Lincoln at E Town, and I was
• 53:27
  like, what the fuck this is at E Town.
• 53:29
  Yeah. And I think, I actually think
• 53:32
  Chris was in the back seat of it and they're driving this, this
• 53:36
  Lincoln. And I was like, what the fuck?
• 53:40
  This is so random. And then now after watching that
• 53:42
  film like that was not random at all, like going there for years.
• 53:46
  Well, Chris Forsberg and Tony Angelo were the ones who went to
• 53:51
  Mike Knapp and said, hey, like we want to try drifting here.
• 53:54
  Like, dude Frankie Petty was in that, yeah, I didn't ever knew
• 54:00
  what who Petty was or or or what what he looked like until like,
• 54:07
  and you. Looked at those videos from
• 54:08
  those dudes way back then. And.
• 54:09
  I'm like, what the hell were these guys?
• 54:10
  No, no, no. Now now I'm.
• 54:12
  Nothing like. Dude, no.
• 54:13
  There's a clip of them. Like, like like squatting down
• 54:16
  and smoking a cigarette and I'm like, Yup, Nope, I've met this
• 54:19
  guy before, like, I know exactly who this is, 'cause he's still
• 54:22
  in the same. Yeah, it looks.
• 54:25
  Exactly the. Same man I'm like, holy crap,
• 54:27
  that looks exactly the same like it.
• 54:28
  It looks like he'd never aged. Like cigarettes.
• 54:30
  Must be the power. Like secret sauce.
• 54:32
  Yeah, secret sauce. If you.
• 54:34
  I feel like if you smoke cigarettes and you stop
• 54:36
  cigarettes, then you die. You.
• 54:37
  Might. Yeah, so, like if you smoke
• 54:39
  cigarettes, you'd probably just. Have to keep smoking.
• 54:41
  The body just goes into shock. You ever see somebody who's like
• 54:44
  mad old and really? After an age, After a certain
• 54:47
  age. If you quit before 40, maybe
• 54:50
  you'll be all right. You're on your deathbed.
• 54:51
  You're not going to smoke a nice little fucking.
• 54:54
  But if you quit after 40 or something, that's a wrap.
• 54:58
  You've never smoked a cig in your entire life.
• 55:00
  No, but my I'm thinking about my dad, who definitely should not
• 55:03
  be alive right now, and he smokes every day.
• 55:06
  My dad moved on, moved on to vapes.
• 55:09
  He found out the convenience of vapes and then was like, this is
• 55:12
  sick. Yeah, but your dad would look
• 55:13
  like a loser smoking a vape. He does that's.
• 55:17
  The problem, like your dad, would be perfect with a
• 55:20
  cigarette. He was very cool with the cigs.
• 55:22
  I'm not going to lie. It was dope.
• 55:24
  And and then when he found out that, like, I also smoked cigs,
• 55:27
  oh, it was even better because he would be like a hey, you
• 55:30
  might not And then he'll be like.
• 55:34
  Yeah. Yagi, Yagi and my dad would
• 55:37
  share cigarettes. Hell yeah, dude.
• 55:40
  My dad. Your dad looks cool when he
• 55:41
  smokes cigarettes. My dad looks like he definitely
• 55:43
  should not be smoking anything. Why?
• 55:45
  He can barely walk like, this is not good, dude.
• 55:49
  Your dad looks like he should be whipping a boat.
• 55:51
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:53
  With the sick. You're not wrong, dude.
• 55:57
  OK, wait, rally. How often are we going to have
• 56:00
  somebody in here who has rally stuff?
• 56:02
  So I need. To talk to you about.
• 56:03
  Let's talk about this. When you're doing that, where
• 56:07
  are you practicing? That was the first question.
• 56:09
  That was the question we never got around to.
• 56:10
  Yeah, we just started talking about off roading in the river.
• 56:15
  Oh God, yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I just, I found
• 56:18
  like dirt roads in North Jersey that I can mess around with.
• 56:22
  Yeah, but like I when. You.
• 56:23
  But I would have like every night.
• 56:26
  Like, I used to deliver pizza, right?
• 56:28
  So like, I'd drive. I'd Dr. delivering pizza, right?
• 56:32
  I wouldn't do that. But like, on my way home, Yeah,
• 56:35
  I'd, I'd hit all the dirt roads on the way home, right?
• 56:37
  Because I'd have like a, you know, whatever half hour commute
• 56:40
  on the way home. But I'd pass like two or three
• 56:41
  dirt roads if I took a little bit of detour and like I'd rip
• 56:44
  on that. And then, like driving in the
• 56:46
  winter, driving in the snow. You delivered, so you delivered
• 56:48
  pizza before the GPS. Era Oh yeah dude.
• 56:51
  So what were you doing? What?
• 56:53
  Do you mean you got? MapQuest or some bull bro.
• 56:56
  You just. Use your go ahead.
• 56:58
  So being a pizza delivery. I can tell you right now I don't
• 57:01
  need GPS. To get navigate pompton.
• 57:04
  No, I don't need GPS to get around pretty much the entire
• 57:07
  country. Cap You got to chill out with
• 57:10
  that cap, like. Look, all you got to do is look
• 57:13
  at the signs. Right.
• 57:14
  There's no, Yeah. There's Rd. signs.
• 57:16
  They do look. At the signs.
• 57:17
  If you have a general direction of where you're going, if like
• 57:20
  if you if you have a little bit of direction, since you don't
• 57:23
  need GPS, you need GPS for the last five minutes to figure out
• 57:26
  what the hell you're actually going to, it's.
• 57:27
  Amazing how many people don't know which way is north
• 57:30
  sometimes. Oh my God.
• 57:30
  Dude, you ask them. They're like what?
• 57:32
  I don't know that. I'd be reading the signs, though
• 57:34
  I I am a big, I am a firm believer in the reading the
• 57:37
  signs thing. I feel like people forget that
• 57:39
  you can read the sign. Yeah, yeah. 1000% I'm I'm a big
• 57:44
  read the sign but. Either way, it's impressive.
• 57:46
  I'm a big map nerd too. Like, I I just stare at maps.
• 57:49
  I like maps. I love maps.
• 57:51
  But I don't. I don't know actually how I.
• 57:54
  Found like a lot of the dirt roads and stuff.
• 57:56
  Oh, you're over here. Fucking yeah.
• 57:57
  It's just yeah, right here. Yeah.
• 58:00
  Well, you know, like old school maps, they'd tell you like,
• 58:02
  what's paved? What's not like?
• 58:04
  That's true. You know what I mean it.
• 58:05
  Was just like I would stare at maps and I would just there's a
• 58:08
  there's a new Dirt Rd. I don't know.
• 58:10
  I like, let's go check it out. That's how I am with off road
• 58:13
  shit like on Google Maps. I'll fucking screenshot that
• 58:15
  shit. Send it to Chris.
• 58:16
  Be like yo. Dude, I could stare at Google
• 58:18
  Maps like Moab for hours. How?
• 58:21
  How rough can the road be before you're like I cannot drive on
• 58:25
  this? Oh dude, I've taken my like
• 58:28
  stock height Outback and like some of the gnarliest stuff in
• 58:31
  Moab and people are flipping out 'cause they're like in these big
• 58:35
  lifted jeeps and you can't go down.
• 58:37
  So you drove? That shit out there.
• 58:38
  Oh dude, that car's been coast to coast multiple times.
• 58:42
  Oh yeah, how many head gaskets? 3-4 motors 4.
• 58:46
  Oh. Damn.
• 58:47
  It's a Subaru thing. Four motors.
• 58:49
  But the chassis bit. Yeah.
• 58:51
  Chassis chassis bit coast to coast.
• 58:53
  Yeah, no, I mean that car. I bought that car and and like
• 58:57
  with the intention to basically drive to SEMA until like the
• 59:00
  West Coast, right? So I bought it two weeks before
• 59:04
  I was leaving for SEMA. Was it cheaper than a flight or
• 59:06
  something? No, I don't know.
• 59:08
  I was just like bringing my my girlfriend now, wife at the time
• 59:11
  and my our dog with us. It was just going to be like our
• 59:15
  first big like coast to coast trip.
• 59:17
  Like she had never done anything like that.
• 59:18
  She's from Quebec, so. She's never done.
• 59:21
  Yeah, baby, I'm a I'm a buy this Subaru 2 for this trip.
• 59:25
  Yeah, yeah. And this was only, keep in mind,
• 59:27
  this was probably, this is probably only six months into
• 59:30
  our relationship, right? Damn.
• 59:32
  So I'm like, yeah, what a rider. You said now wife, right?
• 59:35
  Yeah, OK, I thought. What year was this?
• 59:38
  17 OK 2017 So I I bought this car like some dude out in
• 59:45
  Brooklyn or Queens or some shit and but chassis looked nice.
• 59:49
  The interior was nice, right? And it was kind of like, it was
• 59:52
  already like a turbo Outback wagon, right?
• 59:55
  What a what a manual transit, which is exactly what I was
• 59:58
  looking for. So, But like, when I took it for
• 1:00:00
  a test drive, I'm like, car's not going anywhere.
• 1:00:02
  The turbo's not spooling, right? I'm like, OK, so it probably
• 1:00:05
  needs a turbo. And then like, you know, no big
• 1:00:09
  deal, right? Like poke around like the top of
• 1:00:11
  the motor and like, top of the motor just covered in oil,
• 1:00:15
  right. So I'm like, OK, well, I'm
• 1:00:17
  probably going to have to get in there, at least clean some stuff
• 1:00:19
  off, try to figure out what's going on, and then like.
• 1:00:23
  Ultimately, I was just like, all right, whatever, The car's got a
• 1:00:25
  few problems, no big deal. Like I'll get it sorted like you
• 1:00:28
  you. Sent it.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah, so this. Is 2 weeks.
• 1:00:31
  This is a short time frame. Oh.
• 1:00:32
  Yeah, so I bought the car, brought it home, right?
• 1:00:35
  Cleaned the oil, showed the wife.
• 1:00:37
  Took the manifold off and I was like, OK, yeah, whatever.
• 1:00:41
  Clean that well. Hmm, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:00:44
  Let's drain the oil. Let's see how the oil looks,
• 1:00:46
  right? Draining oil and the oil was
• 1:00:48
  like, yeah, OK, whatever, the oil's not that bad.
• 1:00:50
  Not really promising here. But I checked the turbo.
• 1:00:53
  Turbo was locked up. Like I thought it was right.
• 1:00:56
  I was like, all right, let me, let me drain the other fluids,
• 1:00:58
  Let me like get the trans fluid out of it, the rear diff fluid
• 1:01:01
  out of it. Drain the trans fluid and, like,
• 1:01:04
  teeth fall out of it. Like, oh, OK, cool.
• 1:01:07
  So I got to pull the trans. I got another trans over there.
• 1:01:11
  That's the same final drive. Whatever.
• 1:01:13
  It'll just drop right in. No big deal.
• 1:01:15
  Right. And I was like, all right, well,
• 1:01:16
  you know, if I got to pull the trans, I might as well pull the
• 1:01:18
  motor at this point, right? Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  No big deal, just spiral. Right.
• 1:01:22
  Just, yeah, literally spiral. Right.
• 1:01:24
  Like everything all right. So I got to still.
• 1:01:26
  Before the trip. I'm like, yeah, this is before
• 1:01:28
  the trip. So I'm like, I'm, I've got the
• 1:01:29
  intake manifold off already. I'm like, I got to take the
• 1:01:32
  trans out, take the motor out. I'm like, OK, well, if I'm going
• 1:01:35
  to take the motor out, you know I'm going to do all the timing
• 1:01:38
  stuff regardless, right? I'm not driving cross country
• 1:01:40
  without doing timing stuff right.
• 1:01:41
  Yeah. So yes, now we're on a timing
• 1:01:44
  stuff, right? Then I look, oil pans leaking,
• 1:01:46
  I'm like, all right, cool, got to take the oil pan off.
• 1:01:48
  All right, cool. So I'll do the oil pan, I'll do
• 1:01:50
  a pickup, whatever. And I'm like, well, I'm this
• 1:01:52
  far. In.
• 1:01:54
  I'm this far in, I might as well just, you know.
• 1:01:56
  Let's pull the head. In, Are you sure this is all
• 1:01:58
  before? The trip.
• 1:01:59
  Let's pull the heads off. Let's do head gaskets.
• 1:02:01
  This is before the trips still. Dude, I You're talking to
• 1:02:04
  somebody who works on Subaru's. Oh, true, I could.
• 1:02:06
  I could do. This blind psychopath.
• 1:02:08
  Yeah, like pulling the intake manifold off.
• 1:02:10
  I was like, oh God. That's annoying.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah, it is annoying. But I was just like, all right,
• 1:02:14
  like, whatever, you know, I pulled the motor, pulled, tore
• 1:02:16
  everything down. I had the whole block,
• 1:02:18
  everything apart, like in, I don't know, 3-4 hours.
• 1:02:21
  So, you know, I'm like, all right, let's, let's, all right,
• 1:02:25
  I guess we're going to put Pistons and rods in it.
• 1:02:27
  Shut the fuck up. We're going to send the block to
• 1:02:29
  the machine shop. Where are you?
• 1:02:30
  Buying that shit? What?
• 1:02:31
  What? What town do you?
• 1:02:32
  What? Where are you buying this stuff?
• 1:02:34
  I'm in new city right over here. Oh wait, I'm over here.
• 1:02:37
  You already had the shop going. Oh yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Yeah. Oh yeah, like 2017.
• 1:02:41
  That was, oh wait, 27 years in, so, So yeah, so like, I send
• 1:02:45
  that block to machine shops and the heads to the machine shop,
• 1:02:48
  buy Pistons, buy rods, bearings, everything.
• 1:02:51
  My buddy Vince blueprints the motor right there in the shop
• 1:02:54
  when we get everything back, literally the night before we're
• 1:02:57
  leaving. I'm putting this motor together
• 1:03:00
  right Finish putting the motor in the car, fully built with a
• 1:03:06
  new turbo and a full turbo back exhaust and an upgraded radiator
• 1:03:10
  and all new timing shit and pickup and new clutch and
• 1:03:13
  flywheel. The.
• 1:03:14
  The. Spare transmission.
• 1:03:16
  Everything right. Fixed bushings.
• 1:03:17
  Do this, do that. No test drive.
• 1:03:19
  No test drive, My test drive racing my heart.
• 1:03:22
  Is racing my. Test drive was when I finally
• 1:03:25
  finished buttoning up the car to drive it home.
• 1:03:27
  That night it was 4 AMI drove from Union City to Palisades
• 1:03:33
  Park, which is only. 6 1/2 miles.
• 1:03:35
  Right. Maybe it's maybe 6 1/2 minutes.
• 1:03:37
  Yeah, 6 1/2 miles, Right? I get up to speed on the
• 1:03:41
  Turnpike and I'm like, oh, OK, the wheels are out of balance.
• 1:03:44
  No big deal. OK, so I go home like, we get,
• 1:03:47
  like a few hours of sleep. We got to go back to shop to,
• 1:03:51
  like, pack like tools and stuff that we were going to bring with
• 1:03:54
  us anyway, right? Because we're going to be on the
• 1:03:55
  road for basically four weeks, right?
• 1:03:57
  So go back to the shop. I'm like, all right.
• 1:04:00
  So while we're sort of packing, unpacking, organizing things
• 1:04:04
  like the wife's doing all that, I'll, I'll put the car on a lift
• 1:04:09
  quick and just take the wheels off.
• 1:04:10
  Balance the wheels, I go balance the wheels, right.
• 1:04:14
  We get all packed up. I'm like all right cool.
• 1:04:15
  Like we got everything. We got a little bit of spare
• 1:04:18
  oil. Got this, got that.
• 1:04:19
  You know keep in mind brand new motor right.
• 1:04:21
  So I got to do breaking miles on this thing basically driving
• 1:04:23
  cross country. We do if we get if we get on
• 1:04:28
  Route 3 and we get make like we don't even make it to giant
• 1:04:30
  stadium and I'm like it's fucking front axles.
• 1:04:33
  It's not the it's not the wheel balance the front axles are
• 1:04:35
  going to. Fall apart.
• 1:04:36
  Oh my God. So I'm like, all right, well.
• 1:04:38
  See how now? See how far this goes.
• 1:04:40
  Just pull them out. Oh no, no, no.
• 1:04:42
  We had like we were going to Moab.
• 1:04:44
  Like we had to do stuff. We were like we were out.
• 1:04:46
  So I'm like, alright, it was a little shimmy, like between 6065
• 1:04:50
  miles an hour. Below 60 goes away.
• 1:04:52
  Above 65 goes away. Yep, Yep, by the time we got
• 1:04:56
  inside Colorado, right? OK, you made it up pretty.
• 1:05:01
  Keep keep in mind you skipped. A a good show?
• 1:05:04
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:05:05
  So we made it. All the way out.
• 1:05:06
  So we made it all the way out to Colorado, right?
• 1:05:08
  And you know, keep in mind when you hit the border of Kansas and
• 1:05:12
  Colorado like. Is there just nothing?
• 1:05:14
  There is still 4 hours before you get to Denver, 3-4 hours
• 1:05:18
  before you get to Denver, right? So we're like 3 hours from
• 1:05:24
  Denver and this is like terrible shaking, right?
• 1:05:28
  Like I'm like, I'm getting worried about the fucking axles
• 1:05:31
  pulling out, just destroying the transmission at this point,
• 1:05:34
  right? Not just like losing an axle.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah. And so like we get like 3 hours
• 1:05:40
  from from Denver or like Boulder, Co and I'm like we're
• 1:05:47
  literally in the middle of nowhere.
• 1:05:48
  Like we have to do something like it's either keep driving,
• 1:05:51
  right. And and literally at that point
• 1:05:53
  it was, it was like below 10 miles an hour there'd be no
• 1:05:57
  shaking or above 90, there's no shaking.
• 1:06:03
  That that window is is still within reach for funky and.
• 1:06:08
  It's like, I don't know, it's probably like it wasn't.
• 1:06:12
  What'd you do? It was probably like 3:00 in the
• 1:06:15
  morning, so we just did 90 plus. Yeah.
• 1:06:19
  Until we got to the point where we were just like so tired.
• 1:06:21
  And then that shaking started to really get above 90.
• 1:06:24
  And we're like, well, fuck, I'm not doing 100 miles an hour in,
• 1:06:28
  like morning commute traffic in the Denver, you know what I
• 1:06:31
  mean? So, like, we waited out a little
• 1:06:34
  bit. I I called a friend who at the
• 1:06:36
  time, I didn't know what his capacity at the dealer was.
• 1:06:41
  I just thought he was like a like a salesman or service
• 1:06:43
  writer or whatever. So I hit this dude up on
• 1:06:45
  Facebook. I'm like, hey, dude, like, we've
• 1:06:46
  met at Peg's Peak. We've raced together.
• 1:06:48
  We've done this, whatever, you know, rally.
• 1:06:50
  I rally, you know, cool. You know, I don't know if you
• 1:06:55
  can help us. Like we're on our way to Seema,
• 1:06:58
  but like we need to like get into the dealership and like.
• 1:07:01
  Get this stuff fixed right? I need to like make my car work.
• 1:07:05
  Yeah. So he's like, he's like, yeah,
• 1:07:07
  yeah, yeah, no problem. Like, when you get here, come
• 1:07:10
  find me. Ask for me.
• 1:07:12
  They'll find me. They'll know.
• 1:07:13
  They'll know where to find me. When you get here, just come
• 1:07:16
  find me. OK, cool.
• 1:07:17
  We're like maybe 1/2 an hour from Boulder.
• 1:07:19
  So we go, we go to Flatiron. Subaru, right.
• 1:07:23
  I didn't know the dude owns the dealership.
• 1:07:27
  So he's like, we find, I go in, I find him right.
• 1:07:30
  It's like on the table. It says like, you know, like
• 1:07:32
  president or. I'm like, what the hell?
• 1:07:34
  Oh. Shit, cool.
• 1:07:35
  He's got this big office bigger than this, you know?
• 1:07:37
  And he's like, he's like, oh, hey, how you doing?
• 1:07:39
  Like, good to see you. Like, sorry about the troubles.
• 1:07:42
  Whatever. He's like, give me like 5
• 1:07:45
  minutes. You see he's like he's got glass
• 1:07:48
  like on the one side of his office or whatever.
• 1:07:50
  Like sees the parking lights like, oh, you see like that door
• 1:07:53
  right there in front of the service department.
• 1:07:56
  He's like just just pull up there.
• 1:07:58
  He's like and I'll, I'll meet you out there in about 5
• 1:08:00
  minutes. And I was like, OK And I'm like
• 1:08:02
  looking out the window and there's like 2 Bay big Bay doors
• 1:08:05
  for the shop and the one side is just cars all the way out to the
• 1:08:10
  street. Dude, like people waiting to get
• 1:08:11
  in. He's like, yeah, just pull up to
• 1:08:13
  the front, Like just go around all those cars and I'm like, OK,
• 1:08:17
  I mean, there's nobody in the cars.
• 1:08:19
  You know. There's nobody in the car, but
• 1:08:22
  you know, they're all like inside or whatever their cars
• 1:08:24
  were already checked in or whatever.
• 1:08:25
  So I pull up and he like he's there with like 2 service
• 1:08:29
  writers, the parts manager, the guy who's gonna work on my car
• 1:08:33
  and like a guy who's like their like shuttle guy to like take us
• 1:08:37
  wherever. And he's like oh then he
• 1:08:38
  introduces me to everybody like we talk about what's going on
• 1:08:41
  with the car. I'm like, yeah, I just built the
• 1:08:43
  motor, drove 2000 miles and like I so I need an oil change now to
• 1:08:48
  do the braking Miles and I'm pretty sure both front axles are
• 1:08:52
  dying and I'd love to get more than just one this, this one key
• 1:08:55
  I have for the car. So like if you can cut some
• 1:08:57
  extra keys, maybe a remote like you know while it's here and
• 1:09:01
  maybe check it all over because you know, I haven't had much
• 1:09:03
  sleep for the last two weeks, you know, keep in mind I was
• 1:09:06
  doing this to this Outback, but I also did three other swaps,
• 1:09:10
  motor swaps and. For customer cars too.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah. So, but, but yeah, and that was,
• 1:09:17
  and that was like only weeks after my first $20 sale that we
• 1:09:20
  were talking about too. So that was kind of like what
• 1:09:22
  drove all this. So we had like our $20 sale.
• 1:09:25
  I went out and bought this car and then like that was like 2
• 1:09:27
  week window down to that and I had sold like three more engine
• 1:09:31
  swaps that I had to do for people before I was going to
• 1:09:34
  disappear for a month. So I did all that stuff before I
• 1:09:37
  left plus rebuilding the Outback.
• 1:09:40
  But this dude got us sorted out the door the same freaking day.
• 1:09:43
  That's great. Wild, Wild.
• 1:09:47
  That bill was probably Netty. Dude, not gonna lie.
• 1:09:50
  I don't. I don't wanna say anything about
• 1:09:52
  like. You know the end.
• 1:09:53
  Cost, but like. It was OK.
• 1:09:55
  Way more than reasonable for what?
• 1:09:57
  It was OK. Yeah, I mean, it was expensive.
• 1:09:59
  I mean, you're talking brand new, like OE axles, They're like
• 1:10:01
  $400.00 apiece. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:04
  And then like a new remote, 2 keys cut an oil change.
• 1:10:08
  Like you know, I brought my own oil which I actually bought from
• 1:10:12
  flat irons Tuning I. Was going to say, I know that
• 1:10:15
  name, yeah. Flatiron's tuning is this is
• 1:10:17
  owned by the same guy. Oh, so that's he owns Flatiron?
• 1:10:21
  Super guy and. Then he owns Flatiron's tuning
• 1:10:25
  as well. That's crazy.
• 1:10:27
  So. But yeah, he hooked me up like
• 1:10:29
  big time. Like way went way above and
• 1:10:32
  beyond what I ever expected. You know what I mean?
• 1:10:35
  And like, we're forever grateful for that so.
• 1:10:37
  Now the last hour of your two hours of your journey is now
• 1:10:40
  going to be good. Oh yeah, yeah, 'cause, I mean
• 1:10:43
  from there we were, we basically left the dealer and went
• 1:10:45
  straight to Moab like from which is still like a six hour drive.
• 1:10:49
  But you know, I mean, it was like that.
• 1:10:51
  Probably felt so. But it was great.
• 1:10:53
  But I mean, I have not put new axles in it, yeah.
• 1:10:56
  That's what I don't need to. Replace those axles.
• 1:10:58
  You. Know that was probably so
• 1:10:59
  relieving to finally drive out of there and be like.
• 1:11:04
  Oh dude, it was so smooth. I was like, this is great, No
• 1:11:08
  noise. The car doesn't like, like,
• 1:11:10
  shaking violently, like I felt like a wheel was going to fall.
• 1:11:13
  And now you're doing pulls about racing. 350 No, I mean going
• 1:11:17
  West on 70 through the mountains.
• 1:11:19
  Oh my God dude, so. Much fun.
• 1:11:21
  Best part is, you didn't even know what this guy did.
• 1:11:24
  Like you're like you know he works there but you didn't know.
• 1:11:26
  Yeah, no, I had no idea. What did he said that they
• 1:11:29
  erased at Pike Pike? Yeah, no, but I.
• 1:11:31
  Didn't know like I I just thought he was like a sales guy,
• 1:11:33
  like or like a service right now.
• 1:11:35
  So sales. People are like at Pike's Peak
• 1:11:37
  at what's? What's?
• 1:11:37
  What's the? Pike's peak thing.
• 1:11:39
  Like is that? He was he was the dealer, owner,
• 1:11:42
  yeah. But I I didn't know in what
• 1:11:44
  capacity he was. But I'm.
• 1:11:45
  Saying like at Pike's Peak is it?
• 1:11:48
  I'm here. To see a salesperson over there,
• 1:11:50
  I'm really Yo, Frankie, Let's go to Pikes.
• 1:11:52
  Yeah, not really. I mean, you know, it Pikes Peak
• 1:11:56
  obviously draws a lot of different people.
• 1:11:57
  I mean, you see all the big players.
• 1:12:00
  You see like Rhys Millen and like the guys that come from
• 1:12:03
  overseas, you know, Romaine Dumas, like one, you know, and
• 1:12:06
  has the record up the hill, like you know, whatever.
• 1:12:09
  Like all these big time players like real drivers, you know,
• 1:12:11
  whatever. But like, of course the back of
• 1:12:13
  the pack. You end up with like a bunch of
• 1:12:15
  guys that are like local to Colorado who have some like
• 1:12:17
  weirdo quirky car like work for a shop or like what's the.
• 1:12:21
  Qualifications to go to something like that.
• 1:12:25
  And I don't know, to be honest. I wish I knew because I've
• 1:12:28
  applied and not gotten it. I think a lot of it these days
• 1:12:34
  is like really social media driven, which I find kind of
• 1:12:37
  weird because like I don't know, they they also have like a gripe
• 1:12:40
  with like rally drivers for whatever reason, I don't
• 1:12:42
  understand why. Because.
• 1:12:43
  But you said you drove it. No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:12:45
  I I worked for teams there and like was like at the races like
• 1:12:51
  I've raced rally with him. But not but not.
• 1:12:54
  You ran into each other at Pike's Peak.
• 1:12:56
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody that races
• 1:12:58
  Pike's Peak, everybody knows each other.
• 1:13:00
  Damn, I want to. So you know.
• 1:13:02
  You see videos of that? Drifting Pikes.
• 1:13:04
  Yeah, Jr. did something there. You know, Jared Gettin did a
• 1:13:11
  like a demo thing during. Yeah, with the flights peak one
• 1:13:14
  year. And so did who that.
• 1:13:17
  Travis Pastrana did a thing there.
• 1:13:20
  Ken Block. Travis.
• 1:13:21
  Ken Block did some crazy shit there.
• 1:13:22
  Rest. Of Keb Block did nothing during
• 1:13:25
  the race. They but they shot like a crazy
• 1:13:28
  thing there. Yeah, they shot one of the
• 1:13:29
  craziest pictures. Yeah, they shot where he dips
• 1:13:32
  the tire like off of. Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah, they. Shot some.
• 1:13:35
  Awesome stuff there for sure. Crazy.
• 1:13:38
  But yeah, I mean, like Travis actually has been doing like the
• 1:13:42
  Porsche Cup lately. They do like Porsche Cayman GT
• 1:13:45
  fours. Damn, that's a car my like,
• 1:13:47
  factory factory Porsche. Cup car, not cup car, but like
• 1:13:51
  factory Porsche GT4 built race cars so they have like a
• 1:13:54
  Yokohama sponsored, like Porsche Cup, whatever, like GT4 Cayman
• 1:13:59
  Cup things. So you know, but that's like
• 1:14:02
  money, you know what I mean? Like you got to have a lot of
• 1:14:05
  money to buy into that class. I don't even know what the buy
• 1:14:07
  in price is for that, but I don't know.
• 1:14:08
  But it's. Expensive.
• 1:14:09
  It sounds like you need a Cayman first.
• 1:14:11
  Which? Well, no.
• 1:14:13
  They're all that Caymans. They're all, they're all the
• 1:14:15
  same car. They're all produced and made by
• 1:14:17
  Porsche. Like you have to buy them that
• 1:14:18
  way. You can't make it into that.
• 1:14:20
  I don't even know if you buy them.
• 1:14:21
  I think. I think Porsche provides them
• 1:14:23
  and you're sort of leasing them from Porsche.
• 1:14:25
  You know, you could, you know, you could buy the the spec Miata
• 1:14:28
  ones when it comes with like a trailer full of spares and all
• 1:14:31
  this shit. Yeah.
• 1:14:32
  Like I think the price tag for that was like 50 or 60 grand or
• 1:14:35
  something like that. Depending, yeah.
• 1:14:38
  I don't think it would be like that for.
• 1:14:40
  No, it'd probably be north of three or 400 grand, I would
• 1:14:43
  think just for that one race and keep in mind that's only 12
• 1:14:47
  point like 4 miles, that's it, it's all you're racing 12 miles
• 1:14:53
  so. You.
• 1:14:55
  Can't sign up for that. Call hundred 156 turns, 12.4
• 1:14:59
  miles. What is it it's like?
• 1:15:05
  I want to say it's like 4000 feet in elevation gain, 5000
• 1:15:09
  feet in elevation gain. So you did.
• 1:15:10
  Start Yeah, 4000 feet in elevation gain because start
• 1:15:13
  lines right around like 9000 feet 8000.
• 1:15:17
  So you did you? Don't even know.
• 1:15:18
  You did rally all over the country or just in New York?
• 1:15:22
  Oh, no, I've, I've done rally all over the US.
• 1:15:24
  I've been. I've been competing in rallies
• 1:15:27
  since 09. I don't want to tell you to stop
• 1:15:29
  fidgeting with that, but it. Oh, is it loud?
• 1:15:31
  Yeah, yeah, I keep. I keep fidgeting with that.
• 1:15:33
  You can fidget like, doing anything else.
• 1:15:35
  Like yeah. Should we smoke cigs?
• 1:15:38
  No, Carl. No, no, I I mean, I I started
• 1:15:43
  rallying like 09 and then, yeah, I mean, I've been all over the
• 1:15:48
  country, but like, I've been working for service, like rally
• 1:15:51
  service team since I'm like 18. So I've been all over the
• 1:15:53
  country with a bunch of different teams.
• 1:15:55
  I've been in X Games. I've been to Pike Peak.
• 1:15:57
  I've been to Mount Washington. Like like like like shit broke.
• 1:16:01
  And we need to I'll. Put it back in into some
• 1:16:04
  perspective. The old production GT class
• 1:16:09
  right? Which was like a 100% stock bug
• 1:16:13
  eye WRX class. Right, they had that.
• 1:16:16
  Yes, that sounds. Brakes, Brakes.
• 1:16:18
  Now you have my attention. Brakes were open, diffs were
• 1:16:21
  open. You couldn't do anything with
• 1:16:23
  gears. What do you mean by open?
• 1:16:25
  Like you could do whatever you want.
• 1:16:26
  Oh, OK. So like brakes were open, diffs
• 1:16:28
  were open, but the brakes, I say they were open.
• 1:16:31
  You had to stick to the like, stock size, stock diameter,
• 1:16:35
  rotor and you had to use the stock calipers so you could
• 1:16:40
  just. Change the brake.
• 1:16:40
  Pads. You could change pads, you could
• 1:16:42
  change rotors, yeah. So like that's kind of open.
• 1:16:45
  How much? Gears Are you getting with this
• 1:16:47
  shit? You.
• 1:16:49
  Had to run a stock turbo, so TDO fours with a 32 mill restrictor
• 1:16:53
  around them. So you're only making about 200
• 1:16:55
  horsepower, but you're making 23040 torque.
• 1:16:59
  What? About gearing.
• 1:17:00
  Gearing with stock you could change diffs so you could put
• 1:17:04
  better like differentials in it. So instead of like a viscous
• 1:17:08
  diff, you could put a. Welded.
• 1:17:10
  You could put a you could if you want.
• 1:17:12
  I feel like I want a. Welded rear diff.
• 1:17:15
  Other people would run like a 1.5, you know, plated diff like
• 1:17:19
  a like a 1.5 way. You could put a 1.5 way front
• 1:17:25
  diff and you can upgrade the center diff, but it can't be
• 1:17:28
  electronically controlled. So, you know, but it was
• 1:17:31
  basically like a stock class, yeah.
• 1:17:33
  Yeah, yeah. It was called the GT Class GT.
• 1:17:35
  Production GT class, Production GT class.
• 1:17:38
  So there was like a production class and then there was a
• 1:17:40
  production GT. The production class was under 2
• 1:17:42
  liters or under 18, but whatever.
• 1:17:48
  But yeah, I mean it was basically just like a stock bug
• 1:17:50
  IWX class and like one race. We put 7 transmissions in the
• 1:17:54
  guy's car that we were working on.
• 1:17:58
  Or they CD. Championship championship round.
• 1:18:01
  Oh fuck. Five O 6.
• 1:18:05
  Why is it going to do that many? Those transmissions do suck, but
• 1:18:09
  like 200 horsepower is. Yeah, it's just people abusing
• 1:18:13
  the hell out of them, just like, I mean, it was to the point
• 1:18:15
  where, like, you know, we knew it was a problem.
• 1:18:17
  So, like, he broke trans before the rally even started.
• 1:18:20
  Like just on the shakedowns. Oh.
• 1:18:22
  So boom, did a trans. Then.
• 1:18:24
  I think it was like almost every service we were doing a trans
• 1:18:28
  what. So are you Where?
• 1:18:30
  How do you have enough? Well, that was the thing.
• 1:18:33
  Start pulling transmissions in between services.
• 1:18:36
  And then fixing. Pulling transmissions from
• 1:18:39
  spectators, cars, What? The fuck?
• 1:18:42
  Oh Nah. Yeah, spectators.
• 1:18:45
  Cars. Yeah, spectators that were like,
• 1:18:47
  we start running around for people and like hey, well rally,
• 1:18:50
  can we, can we, can we buy your transmission?
• 1:18:52
  Can we buy your transmission? Can we can we borrow your
• 1:18:55
  transmission, give it back to you later, even though we knew
• 1:18:57
  we were going to break it? Are rally fans the craziest
• 1:19:02
  fans? Oh dude, yeah.
• 1:19:03
  Even back then. 'Cause I feel like.
• 1:19:05
  Really. Spectator transmissions that
• 1:19:07
  rally. That's insane, yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Yo, I had. I had stuff.
• 1:19:10
  Used to be really crazy back then.
• 1:19:12
  I mean like nothing like that stuff happens now.
• 1:19:14
  I mean, I feel like, I feel like.
• 1:19:15
  Yeah, but that was like old stories of like 05 you said.
• 1:19:18
  Yeah, something. Like, fuck wait.
• 1:19:20
  That was like 20 years ago. Shit.
• 1:19:22
  Yeah, I've been in rally for 25 years.
• 1:19:25
  I feel like that's when rally was really.
• 1:19:27
  Really. Awesome fun.
• 1:19:28
  Yeah, like. Cool.
• 1:19:30
  Yeah, it was super cool. It was a lot of fun.
• 1:19:32
  Like classes made sense with what cars were offered here and
• 1:19:35
  like. What was it like getting into
• 1:19:36
  it? Like what was your first one?
• 1:19:40
  So my first one was STPR, OK? I just went and volunteered OK?
• 1:19:45
  And I was just like a corner worker.
• 1:19:48
  And back then, STPR used to just be one day.
• 1:19:51
  It was just like a marathon, like start during the day.
• 1:19:54
  Daylight you guys got. To educate me on this, What is
• 1:19:56
  this? Yes.
• 1:19:57
  SCPR is just like an acronym for the rally is like Susquehanna
• 1:20:00
  Trail Pro Rally. Is it in New York?
• 1:20:03
  PA. OK.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah, so it's like probably 4 hours from here.
• 1:20:06
  Yeah, and my, like, we had a car club at Rowan.
• 1:20:09
  That was, they would go and like do the thing that Billy's
• 1:20:15
  talking about. I just had the time, had mildly
• 1:20:20
  different priorities in college. So like, I I was like, I don't
• 1:20:23
  want to go over there and work that shit and like, fuck that.
• 1:20:26
  But it was. Well, you were trying to get
• 1:20:27
  into it and like it. Was I wish I did like that
• 1:20:30
  probably was really cool. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:32
  I mean, I basically, I just went and volunteered like with like
• 1:20:34
  some coworkers. And I actually, I didn't even
• 1:20:37
  know about it. They were like, hey, yeah, like
• 1:20:39
  we're going to this rally. Like you want to come?
• 1:20:41
  Oh, so you. Just like corrupted.
• 1:20:42
  You. Oh shit.
• 1:20:43
  Oh yeah, yeah. Wait, there's rally here.
• 1:20:46
  Like, what do you what do you mean?
• 1:20:47
  And I was like, yeah, I want to go, fuck, yeah, I want to go,
• 1:20:51
  you know? So I just went and worked with
• 1:20:54
  those dudes. They were just, like, going to
• 1:20:55
  be like volunteers, like corner workers.
• 1:20:57
  Or was it the experience that you want?
• 1:21:01
  Was it the experience that you thought it was going to be?
• 1:21:04
  It was nothing like I had ever seen before, right?
• 1:21:06
  And like, I grew up with cars. But I had never been to a rally.
• 1:21:11
  I knew about rallies because my dad worked for Peugeot in like
• 1:21:14
  the 80s. From like 81 to 91 my dad worked
• 1:21:16
  for Peugeot. So I basically grew up in like
• 1:21:20
  the Group B era of Peugeot winning Group B, like WRC
• 1:21:25
  winning Pikes Peak winning Dakar.
• 1:21:27
  During Yeah, you you saw the glamour side of rally.
• 1:21:30
  Yeah, I. Grew up knowing all that stuff
• 1:21:32
  like I I don't know. I don't know a lot about that
• 1:21:34
  stuff. I don't think I do from that
• 1:21:36
  comment that I just made. Yeah, yeah, no.
• 1:21:38
  But I mean like when I was like 3 or 4, like I was like super
• 1:21:40
  into like, you know, like looking at Ferraris like F40 was
• 1:21:45
  like a thing or like the old 288 GTO was like a thing. 355 best.
• 1:21:48
  For, you know, Lamborghini, you know, Kintosh, you know, was
• 1:21:52
  like posters on my wall, you know, when I was like 3-4 years
• 1:21:55
  old. But then when I was like 5 and
• 1:21:57
  Peugeot won, the WRCI was like, this is so much cooler, all
• 1:22:02
  right. So there are.
• 1:22:03
  Cars into. Riding really young.
• 1:22:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, so. There was a.
• 1:22:06
  There was a. There was a inkling, I guess.
• 1:22:09
  But I was like, there's cars sliding, there's cars jumping,
• 1:22:12
  it's dirt, it's snow, There's fireballs coming out of the back
• 1:22:16
  of these cars. They sound ridiculous, like they
• 1:22:18
  just like, awesome, right? So, like, I'm a huge Peugeot
• 1:22:21
  hat. I've had like 35 since, like,
• 1:22:24
  when I was 12, you know, buying cars.
• 1:22:27
  But but yeah, like when Peugeot pulled out of the country and my
• 1:22:31
  dad wasn't working for Peugeot anymore.
• 1:22:33
  I was 10 years old. I I thought that was the end of
• 1:22:36
  rally. I had no idea.
• 1:22:37
  Like got. You hopped to?
• 1:22:38
  Subaru No, I don't know. I found I found an article, this
• 1:22:44
  tiny article like this big, you know, like in like car and
• 1:22:47
  driver road and track or something like that, talking
• 1:22:49
  about the WRC and how Subaru's got this new wide body thing.
• 1:22:53
  You know, whatever. You know, it was like 97.
• 1:22:55
  It was basically like the first year they ran like A22B style,
• 1:22:58
  like WRC car and the picture was this big.
• 1:23:03
  I'm not even kidding of the like the Yeah WRC car and I was like.
• 1:23:07
  So this is when Subaru was really getting into row.
• 1:23:11
  They had been in they. Had been since one of the ninth,
• 1:23:13
  like early 90s maybe. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:15
  They started with the legacy. Oh, OK.
• 1:23:16
  Before the Impreza and then, you know, Colin McRae things and
• 1:23:20
  whatever, Yeah. So are you asking the origin?
• 1:23:23
  Yeah, of Subaru and rally. Nah, you you you you gotta know.
• 1:23:28
  No, I don't. I really, no, I don't.
• 1:23:30
  No, I definitely. Don't like the whole 22 B?
• 1:23:34
  The whole like you, You 20. 2B is the 90s, I know that.
• 1:23:38
  Yeah, but the 22 B was developed because of shit that was going
• 1:23:42
  on like in that era. I don't know anything about.
• 1:23:45
  Ralph wasn't. What is the 22 B technically?
• 1:23:47
  Is that like a Greek creation homologation type of vehicle?
• 1:23:52
  They only had a few of them, right?
• 1:23:53
  Yeah, I mean, technically they made like 432 of them, yeah.
• 1:23:57
  Yeah, the actual N 4. 100B. Thing the 20. 2B thing never did
• 1:24:01
  it for me. Yeah, just like there's 400 of
• 1:24:03
  them. So I don't care about it.
• 1:24:04
  But I always like the and President WRX and STIs, right?
• 1:24:08
  Yeah, I like that GC and I'm not AI know I I've owned 1 Subaru in
• 1:24:12
  my life and the only other Subaru that like I've had a
• 1:24:16
  crazy scary experience in aside from my younger brothers I guess
• 1:24:20
  was my roommates. And that GC is the best looking
• 1:24:24
  one in my opinion. I agree, it looks proportionally
• 1:24:28
  like. I like GDS.
• 1:24:30
  Correct. I like GDS.
• 1:24:31
  You look like a Jeet. Do you know what a Jeet is?
• 1:24:34
  No, it was some like, I don't know, derogatory fraternity
• 1:24:37
  term. Oh God, yeah, that's definitely
• 1:24:40
  a ruin thing, isn't? That isn't that a word?
• 1:24:42
  Is G the word I? Don't know.
• 1:24:43
  I don't know you. Fucking.
• 1:24:45
  GC It's funny you say that cause GC is the when they put STI
• 1:24:49
  wings on them. I'm like that is the most non
• 1:24:51
  proportional thing. Oh, the big shit.
• 1:24:53
  The big shit. The normal STI wing I don't
• 1:24:55
  like, I believe wasn't. Yeah, it's a factory wing in
• 1:24:58
  Japan on a GD or GC. Well, yeah, I mean there there
• 1:25:01
  was a bunch of different iterations of that.
• 1:25:03
  I mean technically like the version four WRX or STI was like
• 1:25:08
  the the wing that we got on the RSS here, like on the 2.5 Rs
• 1:25:11
  the. Small one, you're talking about
• 1:25:13
  or the? Yeah, it wasn't like on the deck
• 1:25:14
  lid. It was still up.
• 1:25:15
  It was like a great. Thing.
• 1:25:16
  But it was like. I'm talking like the ones that
• 1:25:19
  you know what I'm talking about, Malcolm, the one that Josh has,
• 1:25:22
  Like is that supposed to be a factory wing?
• 1:25:24
  Do you mind pulling up a yeah picture of a nest?
• 1:25:26
  Little, yeah. It really looks like a regular
• 1:25:29
  STIGD wing. That wing.
• 1:25:31
  Yeah, that one. That's my.
• 1:25:32
  Car. OK, look at that.
• 1:25:33
  That's what I'm talking about. That's like a GD wing on a GC.
• 1:25:36
  That's what it looks like to me. That's a big one.
• 1:25:38
  That's a 22B. And that's a 22 B wing.
• 1:25:41
  They are very different, very specific.
• 1:25:44
  OK, so they have an. That's the one that's the
• 1:25:46
  normal. One.
• 1:25:47
  Yeah, that's a regular. That's like a version.
• 1:25:48
  OK, that one right there, white one on the bottom.
• 1:25:51
  This one. Here.
• 1:25:53
  That one's a version. Well, that's a replica wing
• 1:25:56
  because it's got waves in it, but I mean, it looks like that
• 1:25:59
  way, but that's a version 6 because it's got the little
• 1:26:03
  light kick up in it. Here, click the blue 1 Malcolm.
• 1:26:05
  That one looks a little bit more proportional.
• 1:26:06
  That's a version 5. So the the lower the version,
• 1:26:10
  the lower the version the. Version six has like a a kick up
• 1:26:13
  to it, like a a little like Gurney.
• 1:26:15
  Flap now did they on it? Did these.
• 1:26:16
  Only come on, STIs. These wings even back then?
• 1:26:20
  Yes. OK, yeah, WX STI.
• 1:26:22
  The thing I hated the most about about Subaru Impreza WR, XS was
• 1:26:27
  I could never find any info on like GCS.
• 1:26:32
  Like anything I was it was like trying to find like I just
• 1:26:35
  wanted to know what an STI came. You know what I mean?
• 1:26:38
  Like what versions came with what and it's so hard to find
• 1:26:40
  any of that info. Yeah, I mean they all, they were
• 1:26:43
  all WR, XS and St. is from basically like version one.
• 1:26:48
  Yeah, like you. So they had a version.
• 1:26:50
  One WRX and then they had a version, one STI and then even
• 1:26:55
  trying all the way up and through.
• 1:26:56
  Even trying to find like, you know, I'm a JDM nerd, so even
• 1:26:59
  trying to find like JDM stuff about GD chassis was still.
• 1:27:03
  Hard. Oh yeah.
• 1:27:04
  To find. Yeah.
• 1:27:04
  Yeah, super hard. I mean, you basically had to go
• 1:27:06
  like when they were available. Yeah, back in the day like like
• 1:27:10
  I'm going on O3O4, like you had to be able to go on Japanese
• 1:27:13
  like Subaru website and you can't get that information.
• 1:27:16
  See many videos either in in Japan of these cars I feel like,
• 1:27:19
  I feel like they make the cars and they don't even fucking
• 1:27:20
  drive them. Over.
• 1:27:21
  I didn't know that they even had this many.
• 1:27:24
  When what you guys are talking about right now, I'm sure all
• 1:27:27
  the Subaru people are like, yeah, like they had that.
• 1:27:29
  I don't. I didn't.
• 1:27:32
  Even know that they had that many different things going on,
• 1:27:35
  dude, you know what I'm saying? Like that was.
• 1:27:37
  I'll show you guys something that I like.
• 1:27:39
  I took a video of the other day. I'll show it to you later.
• 1:27:43
  But like I have like the old, like STI, like catalogue, like
• 1:27:47
  parts catalogue. That's cool. 4 GCS.
• 1:27:50
  Yeah, I'd love to see that and like.
• 1:27:51
  That's it. You can see like all the
• 1:27:53
  different versions right? And then they also show the
• 1:27:56
  production dates and then they show all of the see.
• 1:27:58
  That's what I needed. I need that.
• 1:28:00
  Yeah, I need an excel spreadsheet so this.
• 1:28:02
  Shows you all the limited editions within those versions
• 1:28:05
  too. So like you have like you know
• 1:28:08
  there are long name things I just I.
• 1:28:11
  I When I think of Subaru, I I have.
• 1:28:13
  Subaru, Impreza. WRXSTIV.
• 1:28:17
  Limited, fucking. I don't know.
• 1:28:20
  They just give you like a million different names for
• 1:28:22
  fucking stuff. I know the V Limited means some
• 1:28:24
  hot shit. That V Limited means big Dick
• 1:28:27
  shit. Yeah, so I had two of these
• 1:28:29
  fucking drinks and I'm fucking so, like, drunk Fuck.
• 1:28:33
  Yeah. And then there's like, Type RA
• 1:28:35
  is like the four doors, Type R is like the coupes.
• 1:28:37
  Wait, what was the type RA? Is the 4 doors like the sedans?
• 1:28:41
  When did they get rid of the coupe?
• 1:28:45
  Overseas production was 2000 here, 2001 technically, so I had
• 1:28:49
  a 2001 model here, but they were all made in 2000.
• 1:28:52
  They did that for a reason, right?
• 1:28:53
  Did they need 4 doors in rally or something?
• 1:28:55
  No, no, actually I mean like the 22 B was really like the
• 1:28:58
  homologation version, like Rd. going version car so that they
• 1:29:02
  ran the coops in WRC. But all the production level WRC
• 1:29:06
  cars were all Group N they could be either 2 door or 4 door.
• 1:29:11
  So a lot of the Group N cars were 4 door for sure.
• 1:29:15
  I I didn't know that there was a different way that you drove
• 1:29:18
  those cars. I feel like we have.
• 1:29:23
  We have not talked about all the cool shit Bill has done.
• 1:29:27
  I know once we start talking about Subarus, I just.
• 1:29:29
  I just want to be a nerd. No, no, no, it's not even that.
• 1:29:32
  Because like it's not it's not that I don't know a lot about
• 1:29:35
  them the the way the when I think of Subaru, sorry, when I
• 1:29:38
  think of Subaru I think of 1A peppy ass car.
• 1:29:43
  It was one of the fastest cars I've ever owned to this day.
• 1:29:46
  And two, it it takes this weird, like where you point the front
• 1:29:51
  end, no steering. If you floor it, that's where
• 1:29:55
  it's going to go. Type of deal.
• 1:29:57
  Didn't know that that existed? No.
• 1:30:00
  Like, one time I went to go buy AZ 32 Wastegate.
• 1:30:05
  Weird. I don't know why I needed it,
• 1:30:07
  but crazy. Didn't I talk to you about this?
• 1:30:10
  I don't know. I've talked about this on the
• 1:30:12
  pod. This guy opens up a barn filled
• 1:30:14
  with machine equipment, gives me AZ 32 wastegate.
• 1:30:17
  Anyway, we're going down this off ramp.
• 1:30:19
  It's wet as fuck. The Subaru is being sold.
• 1:30:23
  Wait, you're probably avid. You're avid as hell in this
• 1:30:25
  community. This white Subaru has gotten the
• 1:30:27
  last OEM pair of rare quarter panels in the United States.
• 1:30:32
  It's a white Subaru on gold RA, whatever OEM gold rays.
• 1:30:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. The RS0 wheels.
• 1:30:40
  It looks it's what everybody wants.
• 1:30:42
  Beautiful. He couldn't have sold it to a
• 1:30:45
  better owner, but we are selling it in a week.
• 1:30:49
  We hit this off ramp and our on ramp and it starts to spin cars
• 1:30:54
  completely sideways in the S13 that I had at the time.
• 1:30:58
  That kind of angle. We're dying.
• 1:31:01
  It's done. You're done, mate.
• 1:31:04
  Yeah. And we were like this.
• 1:31:08
  And then all of a sudden, and this is before I played Asetto
• 1:31:12
  really that avidly, OK, I just showed this guy Asetto maybe a
• 1:31:17
  two weeks. Ago driving or.
• 1:31:18
  No, I'm in the passenger seat yelling at him like you, like
• 1:31:23
  we're about to die. And then he just calmly, you
• 1:31:26
  know, he calmly, I forgot what he did, but he he like, put it
• 1:31:30
  in a third, floored it. Yeah, it's not like it's not
• 1:31:33
  like rear wheel. Drive.
• 1:31:33
  No. And and we were coming down,
• 1:31:36
  dude. It like it was not slowing down
• 1:31:38
  and then it just went. He did like, yeah.
• 1:31:40
  It was so crazy. It was crazy.
• 1:31:43
  We did not. You thought you were going to
• 1:31:44
  spin out? It was a singular lane of of
• 1:31:48
  pavement. It was not.
• 1:31:49
  And it was a downhill. It was crazy, dude.
• 1:31:52
  Never felt anything like. It never felt fear like.
• 1:31:54
  Scenario. Actually, I love off ramps and
• 1:31:58
  on ramps like that. Dude, that's kind.
• 1:32:00
  Of how I was kind of doing that on the way here with my Outback
• 1:32:02
  actually not going to lie it. Was really cool.
• 1:32:04
  I got to. Get on the Turnpike.
• 1:32:07
  All right, Well, you know those tight turns to, like, get in the
• 1:32:11
  truck lanes? You know those like really tight
• 1:32:13
  loops, dude. I could like, pitch that thing
• 1:32:15
  in, get it to understeer a little bit and then get the back
• 1:32:17
  end to come around and just that's awesome.
• 1:32:19
  Just ride it out and just. People always used to talk about
• 1:32:21
  Subarus, like understeering, but like when I had my 05 STI, I was
• 1:32:25
  like, that thing kind of wants to kick its ass out.
• 1:32:28
  Yeah, yeah. Then maybe I wasn't driving hard
• 1:32:30
  enough. Like, probably not driving too
• 1:32:31
  hard, yeah? I think that's a big bitch.
• 1:32:34
  No, they don't. Understood bad.
• 1:32:36
  Like if you throw into a corner, like people are crashing Subarus
• 1:32:39
  all the time, like when they first get them, especially
• 1:32:41
  because they don't know, like if it's their first Subaru ever,
• 1:32:43
  they just don't know how to drive them, right.
• 1:32:45
  So like a lot of times people just, they think, oh, it's a
• 1:32:48
  Subaru, it's 4 wheel drive, it's going to go around the corner
• 1:32:50
  when it's the complete opposite. No, Yeah, but what it's going to
• 1:32:52
  do is just go straight and you're going to crash that
• 1:32:54
  thing. What?
• 1:32:55
  Are some things that people can do to combat that?
• 1:32:59
  Actually, good question. I say aggressive in this is how
• 1:33:04
  I drive, right? So like, if I wanna have fun
• 1:33:07
  with a Subaru and slide it through a corner, you wanna get
• 1:33:10
  it sideways early, not like. Less you wanna get it right now?
• 1:33:16
  Early so like you come in aggressive, not not pussy fun.
• 1:33:22
  It not like easing in on the wheel.
• 1:33:23
  You gotta throw the weight around so like you come in fast,
• 1:33:28
  you slam on the brakes to get all the weight to transfer
• 1:33:31
  forward. Don't try this.
• 1:33:32
  We're not responsible for anything.
• 1:33:33
  Sorry, sorry, sorry. I got to get that out of there.
• 1:33:35
  Because somebody's disclaimer on the bottom of the board, yeah,
• 1:33:38
  but if you come in hot, you hammer on the brake, you get all
• 1:33:42
  that weight to shift forward that now takes the weight off
• 1:33:44
  the rear. So now if you give a little bit
• 1:33:46
  of steering input now the back ends going to want to start
• 1:33:48
  coming. Around.
• 1:33:48
  Then you floor it. You.
• 1:33:49
  No, no. OK.
• 1:33:51
  Floor it. Then you hit the handbrake real
• 1:33:52
  quick to give it that extra little bit of lock up and get it
• 1:33:56
  a little bit more angle, a little bit more sideways and
• 1:33:58
  then you get back on the throttle and then you start to
• 1:34:00
  counter. Steer and that's how you just
• 1:34:01
  make a turn and that's. How you just do it?
• 1:34:03
  Fucking handbrake everything. Well, Nah, I've gotten to.
• 1:34:06
  Do I do that's? Like standard left foot braking
• 1:34:08
  practice type shit. Yeah, the rain is the best way
• 1:34:10
  to, like, learn, right? Where it's like you're not, you
• 1:34:14
  know, you're not going out on Dr. Pavement trying to like, do
• 1:34:17
  that stuff, you know what I mean?
• 1:34:18
  Actually the snow is the best really because it's it's the
• 1:34:21
  least amount of grip, you know, in terms of just, you know,
• 1:34:25
  weather wise. But the drivetrain doesn't get
• 1:34:28
  the stress as badly which. Is nice.
• 1:34:30
  Right. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:34:31
  Like you don't get the crazy shock loads.
• 1:34:33
  You don't have to worry about breaking axles.
• 1:34:34
  I've never allowed a super dry yeah, only in the snow.
• 1:34:37
  Yeah, yeah. So I mean you know like snow or
• 1:34:39
  wet is usually good for that stuff.
• 1:34:41
  I mean obviously don't go hitting you know off ramps right
• 1:34:43
  off the the, the rip, but. Not in an all-wheel drive car.
• 1:34:48
  Never. Yeah.
• 1:34:50
  So all the, you know, all all the on off ramps around giant
• 1:34:53
  stadium and like whatever, like I don't go to parking lots when
• 1:34:56
  it snows. I I stay on the road, I hit all
• 1:34:59
  the on off ramps. There's.
• 1:35:00
  Allegedly. That's right.
• 1:35:02
  You know. Allegedly, Yeah, actually that
• 1:35:04
  that. Also allegedly.
• 1:35:06
  Giant stadium when when I had my Subaru, there was a like a
• 1:35:10
  little 2 inch snowstorm, right? Best time to go drifting.
• 1:35:15
  Yeah. Well, it depends on the tires.
• 1:35:16
  Too, and that too. But in terms of, like, ease,
• 1:35:19
  yeah, like, it's like driving in here is gonna be easy.
• 1:35:22
  And sliding it is gonna be easy. I mean, it was like light, dusty
• 1:35:25
  ass. No.
• 1:35:25
  Yeah, yeah. But that's like the first time.
• 1:35:27
  Ever. It is the more consistent third
• 1:35:29
  gear. Wide open, just yeah.
• 1:35:33
  The wheel was not turned right. It was just straight, just like,
• 1:35:37
  yeah, yeah, just chucking. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:40
  No, it's super fun. I mean, you could do it with all
• 1:35:42
  seasons. I don't recommend it with all
• 1:35:44
  seasons. Yeah.
• 1:35:44
  No, I think I have. To learn and just start messing
• 1:35:47
  around. Like, yeah, why not like all
• 1:35:49
  seasons. I mean, that's how everybody
• 1:35:50
  started. Basically if you if you where
• 1:35:53
  I'm going to pull a question soon but if you were to tell
• 1:35:57
  somebody with a Subaru today, because I know that there's a
• 1:36:00
  fuck load of you guys out there, what would you tell them to do
• 1:36:04
  to it first? Not tell them to do, but if they
• 1:36:06
  asked you like what should I do to my shoe or not, Yeah.
• 1:36:11
  Is there a new book aside from? Yeah, cuz it used to be like
• 1:36:15
  stage two, the stage. Yeah, but now the EPA is out.
• 1:36:18
  Shoot me. All these.
• 1:36:20
  Fucking. People with this stage one,
• 1:36:22
  stage 3 or stage 2 1/2. What the fuck is that even?
• 1:36:25
  I actually didn't even really know what.
• 1:36:27
  That is Oh my, everyone thank. Yeah, good.
• 1:36:29
  Because you shouldn't know because.
• 1:36:31
  We have one. Subaru It doesn't mean shit.
• 1:36:33
  Dude. And all these fucking nerds on
• 1:36:35
  the Internet decided to oh, open stage one.
• 1:36:37
  Well, what the fuck does that even mean?
• 1:36:38
  I'm a guy who owns a shop. I don't know what the fuck that
• 1:36:40
  means. You want to tell me what that
• 1:36:41
  means for Subaru? I would want to know.
• 1:36:43
  Downpipe access port. That's stage 2.
• 1:36:47
  Why don't you just call that bolt ONS?
• 1:36:49
  Yeah. I mean, it basically is.
• 1:36:50
  But The thing is like. I don't know.
• 1:36:52
  I guess not, dude. Once Cobb came out and got big,
• 1:36:56
  it was that was the only thing you only tuned.
• 1:36:58
  Your car, it still pretty much is.
• 1:36:59
  I mean, you know, a lot of people will like the older cars
• 1:37:02
  now people are putting links in especially with the like JDM
• 1:37:04
  imports, right. Like we've yeah, we've done like
• 1:37:06
  a lot of links on stuff. Lately a lot of link is like a
• 1:37:08
  Subaru people as. Well, they drop.
• 1:37:11
  They have dropping boards just like they do for the SRS.
• 1:37:13
  But the thing with Subaru is you could you could mess with that
• 1:37:16
  ECU. I don't know what they call it,
• 1:37:18
  but you didn't need. You didn't need to get a
• 1:37:19
  standalone or anything like. You no, you could open source
• 1:37:21
  too. Open source, they don't.
• 1:37:22
  Nobody does that anymore though, OK, Nobody.
• 1:37:25
  Nobody does that. So you know, everybody's doing
• 1:37:30
  access port for the most part, like most tuners now will not do
• 1:37:34
  anything but an access port or link if they want to go, you
• 1:37:36
  know, standalone, you know, I mean, obviously there's crazier
• 1:37:41
  stuff out there. I mean, you can go MO tech, but
• 1:37:43
  you know, nobody's got Motech money.
• 1:37:45
  That's big. Real.
• 1:37:46
  Motex. Not anyone listening.
• 1:37:47
  To this podcast. Yeah, Motech's crazy money.
• 1:37:50
  I just want Motech, so I could just say like.
• 1:37:52
  The only reason why I have a Motech is because I bought.
• 1:37:55
  A car? You have a Motech.
• 1:37:56
  The only reason why I have one is because I bought a car that
• 1:37:58
  had one in it. I didn't put it in.
• 1:38:00
  I didn't. Have to pay for it so.
• 1:38:01
  How much are those like? M1 series stuff like the M100
• 1:38:06
  stuff, I mean EC US or five, six grand.
• 1:38:09
  Why is? That ECU.
• 1:38:10
  Why is that like that? Is it tune itself or something?
• 1:38:14
  Like is it made out of Vibranium?
• 1:38:16
  They do have self tuning, but I mean you know like like most
• 1:38:19
  ECU's like Link has self tuning you know I mean there's it's
• 1:38:22
  not, it's not there is like obviously there's a lot to the
• 1:38:28
  name right. It's like buying, you know,
• 1:38:30
  brand name, anything, right? It's.
• 1:38:31
  Like Power FC? Yeah, like a Power FC.
• 1:38:34
  Yeah, no, definitely not a Power FC, but.
• 1:38:39
  But yeah, no, we're gonna have to talk about.
• 1:38:40
  It's got a reputation for sure. I mean it's, it's, it's it's
• 1:38:43
  known as being like the the most reputable good, like, yeah, the
• 1:38:46
  most reliable. Cool and good.
• 1:38:48
  Yeah, yeah, I mean, obviously the name sounds cool.
• 1:38:50
  You know, I've got a Motech. You know it's.
• 1:38:53
  Hard as hell, isn't it? Yeah.
• 1:38:54
  I mean, I got, I'm like old school Motech.
• 1:38:56
  Like I got a gold box Motech in this car.
• 1:38:59
  Oh. Dude, you're.
• 1:39:00
  I don't know anything you just said, but that sounded so cool.
• 1:39:03
  It's in the GC I have, so the like not the black one.
• 1:39:05
  I showed you the streetcar that I just like finished putting
• 1:39:07
  back together. Which for Sale by the way, if
• 1:39:09
  anybody looking for SWAT Rs, yeah, that's rest for 52,000
• 1:39:12
  miles. Was the was this the black one?
• 1:39:14
  Yeah, this is the black one. Word.
• 1:39:15
  Word. Yeah.
• 1:39:16
  Buy the nice paint. Nice car, though, actually.
• 1:39:19
  Hey, if you That's actually what I painted.
• 1:39:21
  Yeah, right. Hit me.
• 1:39:23
  With. That no, I got a GC rally car
• 1:39:26
  that was built in 97 to basically look like the WRC,
• 1:39:31
  like Subaru car, It was built. Like currently you had.
• 1:39:34
  This. Yeah, I own this car.
• 1:39:35
  This is the one with the Motech in it.
• 1:39:36
  The gold. The gold box.
• 1:39:37
  Motech, You know, just so you know.
• 1:39:41
  Yeah, Frankie, it's a gold. It's a gold.
• 1:39:44
  Gold box smoke tech. It's not one of these.
• 1:39:45
  Like, super nice. Like, is that like a one?
• 1:39:48
  It's like now that guys wearing USPA.
• 1:39:51
  Gold Box by. Ralph the Right.
• 1:39:53
  One, it's literally a gold box. It's pretty cool.
• 1:39:56
  Like it's. Gold.
• 1:39:58
  Is there an equivalent controller to that?
• 1:40:00
  I feel like that is a he just. Wants everything to be a power
• 1:40:02
  of C. Yeah.
• 1:40:03
  So no, no. That's all I like.
• 1:40:05
  There's. No handheld controller, it's
• 1:40:06
  still computer. Based I would confuse MO.
• 1:40:08
  I would. I would confuse Motech and
• 1:40:10
  Microtech a lot. Microtech.
• 1:40:13
  Microtech was like, I don't even know what.
• 1:40:16
  That is, yeah, same. FC or no No Rotary ECU.
• 1:40:21
  Oh, OK. Yeah, what you know about that,
• 1:40:23
  bro? Your boy is eclectic?
• 1:40:25
  Don't know. Me.
• 1:40:26
  Don't. Know much about that Motex I
• 1:40:27
  think I've worked or or those rotaries.
• 1:40:29
  I think I've worked on like 2 my entire life.
• 1:40:31
  Yeah, dude, That's probably why you look mad.
• 1:40:33
  Young. Yeah, actually.
• 1:40:35
  I mean, you you like Subaru or you like?
• 1:40:37
  Yeah, I mean, I got into the Subaru game.
• 1:40:39
  I mean, you know, the saw, the little article 97, whatever.
• 1:40:42
  I bought my first Rs in 2001 brand new from the dealer.
• 1:40:45
  I think it's funny because 914, you know it's.
• 1:40:51
  Yeah, it's weird. It's a It's a love hate
• 1:40:52
  relationship for 9/14. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:54
  But like you, you migrated over to Subaru and like, doesn't that
• 1:40:58
  kind of make sense? Isn't that the same type of
• 1:41:01
  shit? Like flat motor mid.
• 1:41:02
  Motor my dad had a buddy. Honestly, from might have been
• 1:41:06
  from pumped and lakes too. Maybe.
• 1:41:08
  Maybe I know him. Gold 9/11 with a Subaru motor in
• 1:41:13
  it. It was like a STI with AVF 39
• 1:41:16
  turbo. I would like that, yeah.
• 1:41:19
  My dad just like pulled up with this guy.
• 1:41:21
  He was like, yeah, I was driving in a in a Harriman and I ran
• 1:41:24
  into this guy. I'm like, what the fuck dad?
• 1:41:27
  Now I'm doing the same shit, but like, I've Yeah, right.
• 1:41:29
  Literally now I'm doing the same thing, yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:31
  But with I, s s. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but you
• 1:41:34
  know, back in the day I'd go to Harriman with my old Rs that I
• 1:41:37
  bought that brand new in O1. I'm saying I didn't know that
• 1:41:39
  there was that connection there for Subaru and Porsche owners,
• 1:41:42
  where it was like both of them were.
• 1:41:44
  You'd be surprised how many Porsche owners actually own
• 1:41:46
  Subarus. No, as they're not saying.
• 1:41:48
  Yeah, it's kind of shocking actually.
• 1:41:50
  How many people have them they? Like that.
• 1:41:51
  They like that. Similarly, or like their
• 1:41:52
  families have like a forest or something, you know what I mean?
• 1:41:55
  Like, what's that six cylinder Subaru that's apparently got a
• 1:41:58
  good engine in it? What's that big one that's gone
• 1:42:02
  now? It's a SUV.
• 1:42:03
  Is it a truck? Talk about No, it's not a truck.
• 1:42:06
  Maybe now. Or the OR the.
• 1:42:08
  It's a six cylinder. Tribeca.
• 1:42:09
  Tribeca. Yeah.
• 1:42:11
  Weird, ugly thing, Yeah. But isn't the engine in that
• 1:42:13
  good? Yeah, like it sounds good.
• 1:42:16
  Yeah, they actually. I mean the Subaru 6 cylinders
• 1:42:18
  sound like Porsche motors when you put short exhausts on them
• 1:42:21
  or like stray pipe them like they're pretty sick actually,
• 1:42:24
  Especially when you put them in nine elevens or like 9
• 1:42:26
  fourteens, you put a Subaru 6 cylinder in those things they
• 1:42:29
  almost sound like 9 elevens, like race 9 elevens.
• 1:42:33
  It's pretty wild. Like I if I was going to do
• 1:42:35
  another 914 and not like build a stock Porsche built motor in the
• 1:42:40
  thing I would totally do a six cylinder swab are they are.
• 1:42:45
  Subarus still making that six cylinder or did they get rid of
• 1:42:47
  that? No, not anymore.
• 1:42:49
  The last year, the six was 19. Oh, in the Outbacks.
• 1:42:53
  So, and it's all four cylinders now.
• 1:42:54
  Yeah, it's all Turbo 4. I like that about Subaru.
• 1:42:56
  They try to keep it, you know, very simple.
• 1:42:58
  Yeah, if you have like, you know, two motors.
• 1:43:00
  Yeah, everything is the same. Yeah, like it's.
• 1:43:02
  Like we have a 2.4, imagine 2.4 turbo.
• 1:43:04
  Yeah. You go to motor parts, they have
• 1:43:06
  everything because there's only two motors, right?
• 1:43:07
  Yeah. It's very nice, yeah.
• 1:43:09
  Not to get into current events here, but they have that new
• 1:43:12
  dodge that has the fucking inline 6 Twin Turbo.
• 1:43:18
  That what is it? A car.
• 1:43:20
  Yeah, it's in a car. You're talking about the new in
• 1:43:23
  the new charger? Yes, yeah, I've read something
• 1:43:25
  about that. They.
• 1:43:25
  Put that in a charger. What are they?
• 1:43:27
  Doing they were going to make that in TV design and now they
• 1:43:30
  got this bad boy right here inline 6 the hurricane.
• 1:43:36
  Yeah. What are they doing, dude?
• 1:43:38
  I don't know what that is. Can I go pee?
• 1:43:40
  Yeah, yeah. No, no, no pissing.
• 1:43:41
  You could definitely go pee. Just, yeah, you know where it
• 1:43:43
  is, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:43:44
  Imagine it's locked because Chris accidentally locked.
• 1:43:46
  It no, it's not locked. You would have to then get
• 1:43:50
  create off, but no, this is dodge's.
• 1:43:54
  Wait, wait, wait. But weren't they going full
• 1:43:57
  electric? That's what I'm saying.
• 1:43:59
  I don't really understand where. Did that not already that
• 1:44:02
  already backfired? I don't know.
• 1:44:03
  I don't know where everybody's going with this anymore.
• 1:44:05
  I don't know what direction the automotive industry did.
• 1:44:07
  They just forget? Did they just realize that car
• 1:44:09
  people are dumb and love to spend money, So they're like,
• 1:44:12
  here? Here's an idea.
• 1:44:13
  Keep a fucking V8 in it. How about that?
• 1:44:17
  What are we doing? Bro, how do they not know that
• 1:44:21
  the? I mean, God damn Dodge Charger
• 1:44:24
  put it in VA. What?
• 1:44:26
  What is that GME T6 in line 6? Is that a picture of it?
• 1:44:29
  Is this what it looks like? Yeah, Line 6 engine.
• 1:44:34
  What that does not look like A2J.
• 1:44:36
  It's. Probably not even their engine.
• 1:44:37
  I hate how the valve cover is plastic.
• 1:44:40
  That pisses me off so much. They.
• 1:44:41
  Don't want anyone? To see, I mean, dude, that kind
• 1:44:43
  of. Don't don't get excited about
• 1:44:47
  this. It should be AV 8.
• 1:44:50
  Well, I don't like how the turbo's on the left side, left
• 1:44:52
  hand side, because that means the exhaust is going to be
• 1:44:55
  dropping down right by your feet.
• 1:44:57
  I want to know. Why is the logo look like a DSM?
• 1:45:00
  Yeah, that's the other thing. Who?
• 1:45:02
  Who said that in the the faction discord?
• 1:45:04
  Which I'm glad that Dodge made the the fucking S 16 for Nissan,
• 1:45:08
  But like, I don't think they needed to.
• 1:45:10
  Dude, why does this say it has 500 horsepower?
• 1:45:13
  Is that real? Probably.
• 1:45:15
  That can't be real, can you? Can you go up to the 550 thing?
• 1:45:19
  Oh, right, right, right there. Second paragraph.
• 1:45:21
  Perfect. It'll be still powered by the
• 1:45:24
  same twin turbo engine, but output has been pumped up to 550
• 1:45:28
  from 4:20. That's oh wait, 485. 660. 5
• 1:45:36
  horsepower is not light unless it is now.
• 1:45:39
  But you're telling me they pumped that thing up?
• 1:45:40
  65 horsepower. This.
• 1:45:41
  That's Where's the efficiency dodge.
• 1:45:46
  I don't know what's. If you're making that thing as
• 1:45:48
  efficient as possible, you're pulling out as much as you can
• 1:45:51
  out of the material that you're offered, and that is not what's
• 1:45:54
  going on. So fucking stop the gatekeeping
• 1:45:58
  dodge. I don't.
• 1:45:59
  I don't get what they're doing. I I don't.
• 1:46:01
  I'm sure the EPA has everything to do with it.
• 1:46:03
  I don't even know why I'm babbling about it.
• 1:46:04
  I'm no fucking expert. Didn't they?
• 1:46:07
  Aren't they the ones that came out with that like at the auto
• 1:46:10
  show or something? And it was like, it was like a a
• 1:46:13
  a speaker in it, just making noises because.
• 1:46:14
  It was. That's what I thought this was
• 1:46:15
  going to be. It wasn't this.
• 1:46:16
  Wasn't this what it was supposed to they?
• 1:46:18
  Probably did that, and then everyone just stopped buying.
• 1:46:20
  They did that, and everyone was like, kill yourself, Dodge.
• 1:46:23
  And then they were like, you know what?
• 1:46:24
  Maybe we should. Yeah, maybe we should do
• 1:46:26
  something. Maybe.
• 1:46:26
  We should do something crazy. Dude, I don't know what's going
• 1:46:29
  on. They really think this electric
• 1:46:31
  thing is going to. I'm.
• 1:46:31
  I think I'm the only person that doesn't think this electric
• 1:46:33
  thing is. Going to Hey, thank you.
• 1:46:35
  Alright. Yeah.
• 1:46:35
  OK, good. No.
• 1:46:36
  Yeah, I really don't think it's going to pay out.
• 1:46:39
  It's not. Well, you know what it is.
• 1:46:40
  It's not going to be. It's not going to be all
• 1:46:41
  electric like everybody's talking about.
• 1:46:43
  It's not going to be a mix of everything.
• 1:46:45
  It's not going to Gasoline's not going away.
• 1:46:47
  Diesel's not going away. Hydrogen's going to come in big
• 1:46:50
  time would be good. Like, yeah.
• 1:46:52
  Imagine. There's still going to be
• 1:46:53
  hybrids and there's still going to be electric and it's just
• 1:46:55
  going to be a mix of everything. And that's what the solution's
• 1:46:58
  going to be. And it's going to be based on
• 1:46:59
  what your environment is in terms of like what the car is
• 1:47:03
  being used for, what the vehicle's being used for.
• 1:47:05
  Like you're not going to tell me farm trucks and farm like
• 1:47:09
  equipment, tractors and stuff, they're not going to go
• 1:47:12
  electric. There's no way.
• 1:47:14
  It's all about. It's all about making the
• 1:47:16
  technology work in said vehicles.
• 1:47:19
  So like. Not to mention that the grid
• 1:47:21
  can't handle That's what I'm everybody being electric.
• 1:47:23
  Let's say there's a fluid, yeah. But then how do you, how do you
• 1:47:26
  combat that? You, you, you, you get get more
• 1:47:28
  electricity. Where are we getting
• 1:47:29
  electricity? Right.
• 1:47:30
  Buying it from Canada. Buying it.
• 1:47:33
  Buying it from Canada. Not an option we.
• 1:47:35
  Got How are they producing electricity?
• 1:47:37
  Hydro. All of, all of Quebec's
• 1:47:40
  electricity is Hydro. All of it.
• 1:47:42
  All of it. All of.
• 1:47:43
  It I got a lot of family in Quebec.
• 1:47:44
  I actually had a really good time in Quebec.
• 1:47:46
  Yeah. Don't remember any of it.
• 1:47:48
  Yeah, that's. Good.
• 1:47:49
  That means you had a good. Time.
• 1:47:50
  It was great. Yeah.
• 1:47:51
  I had another question for you before Carl goes to the
• 1:47:53
  questions. How did you get your S13?
• 1:47:57
  How did that whole thing happen? We.
• 1:47:58
  Did talk about the S13 once, that's why I want to.
• 1:48:00
  Chassis shop. I know, that's why I want to
• 1:48:03
  know about. SRS for life?
• 1:48:05
  Yeah, so. Because you seem to be pretty
• 1:48:08
  into Subaru from the start. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much.
• 1:48:11
  I mean, that's kind of like where I got my, I don't know, I
• 1:48:16
  don't want, like obviously I've been working on cars for a long
• 1:48:18
  time before I even got into Subaru's.
• 1:48:19
  But like Subaru was kind of like the real, like the first car
• 1:48:23
  really got into modifying. Like I basically I bought my Rs
• 1:48:26
  brand new in O1, O2. It was swapped already, yeah.
• 1:48:30
  That's crazy. Like before I was even a year
• 1:48:33
  into owning that car, I had already pulled the motor out of
• 1:48:35
  it, started the turbo. Where are you getting this auto
• 1:48:37
  at though? So you bought ARS and what was
• 1:48:40
  it like then? Because you were getting an Rs
• 1:48:42
  here in America and it sucked. Fucking Dick and then you.
• 1:48:45
  Yeah, it wasn't an STI, so like back then.
• 1:48:47
  I mean it was the beginning of the Internet.
• 1:48:49
  So, like, I researched so deeply into the Subaru because I wanted
• 1:48:53
  that, that I wanted like AWRC car, right?
• 1:48:56
  Like I wanted my car to look like the thing that I found in
• 1:48:58
  like 1997, like an article. So like I started researching it
• 1:49:02
  and like went into it and like that's sort of like when I
• 1:49:05
  rediscovered Rally too, right? Like that's when I realized that
• 1:49:07
  Rally was like still a thing and like it was big and you know,
• 1:49:10
  WRC and all this stuff. So I ended up, I ended up just
• 1:49:15
  basically looking at a bunch of cars and I I landed on the
• 1:49:19
  Subaru, right? Like I wanted.
• 1:49:20
  At that point. I already knew like what cars
• 1:49:22
  were in rally at the time, right?
• 1:49:23
  So like 2000, 2001, what cars were available here that were in
• 1:49:27
  rally? Ford Focus, Hyundai Accent, What
• 1:49:31
  the? Fuck, obviously.
• 1:49:32
  Like the Subaru 2.5 Rs like kind of looking thing before the bug
• 1:49:36
  eye came out. What else did I look at?
• 1:49:39
  Hyundai Tiburon was actually, yeah, I.
• 1:49:40
  Remember that. In national rally stuff.
• 1:49:43
  So like they weren't using in WFC, right?
• 1:49:47
  Yeah, I know, right? You did?
• 1:49:48
  You did you like that? You you like that car when it
• 1:49:50
  came? We're talking about the first
• 1:49:52
  Tiburon, are we? Oh dude, yeah.
• 1:49:53
  There was a number of different Tiburons, obviously.
• 1:49:55
  No, but but like the first one. So the first one were was like
• 1:49:59
  the the single headlight. Yeah, that's the one that I'm
• 1:50:02
  talking. About, Right.
• 1:50:03
  So they they they, I guess when they went to the Quad Headlight
• 1:50:07
  Tiburons, that's when they were really like like a national
• 1:50:10
  level. That's what they were.
• 1:50:12
  Using the ones that had like that like.
• 1:50:14
  But in the US they were front wheel drive.
• 1:50:16
  As production from the dealer, yeah, everything that I looked
• 1:50:19
  at was was front wheel drive except for the Rs, right?
• 1:50:24
  But the Rs was also the most expensive one out of all those.
• 1:50:27
  So oh, and I looked at Lancer too.
• 1:50:29
  Like, yeah, Mitsubishi Lancer, which is.
• 1:50:31
  Also front wheel drive. Right front wheel drive car, 1.8
• 1:50:34
  liter I think Normally aspirated, non turbo, like
• 1:50:37
  looked like a like, looked like an Evo 4 without all the cool
• 1:50:42
  stuff with the big fog lights and the big wing and like, you
• 1:50:44
  know, obviously the drivetrain, no drivetrain there.
• 1:50:47
  So I looked at all that stuff and like the Rs was the most
• 1:50:50
  expensive and that's actually what I landed on.
• 1:50:52
  But. Correct me if I'm wrong.
• 1:50:54
  They need the car has to be produced all-wheel drive
• 1:50:58
  somewhere in the world in order to be in not.
• 1:51:00
  I'm not saying they all have to be all, yeah.
• 1:51:03
  But. If if it's in that class.
• 1:51:05
  Yes and no. I mean they like obviously the
• 1:51:07
  Evos and the Subarus, right. They made 4 wheel drive turbo
• 1:51:09
  cars and they basically just it was an easy transition for them,
• 1:51:13
  stuff like Ford Focus, you know. Yeah.
• 1:51:18
  Like if what else? Like say, out at the time, which
• 1:51:21
  is basically just like a Volkswagen company.
• 1:51:23
  Peugeot. Peugeot's are none of them.
• 1:51:26
  Two O 6. You know none of them are, you
• 1:51:28
  know, all-wheel drive. Really.
• 1:51:29
  So they are. They're all front wheel drive.
• 1:51:31
  So they're allowed to convert the drivetrain completely and
• 1:51:34
  and still use the car. So what are the actual?
• 1:51:35
  Rules. Well, the rules used to be like
• 1:51:38
  for homologation like you had to make like X amount of street
• 1:51:40
  cars that kind of went away like to some degree, I don't know the
• 1:51:45
  exact rules and why like companies like Ford and Peugeot
• 1:51:48
  and stuff like that can make their 2 wheel drive cars, just
• 1:51:50
  make them. And I mean that's kind of you
• 1:51:52
  look at WRC now, it's kind of the same way now too.
• 1:51:55
  It's like yeah maybe they sell like a Ford Puma as like a four
• 1:51:59
  wheel drive car, but it's not a turbo hybrid thing like they're
• 1:52:04
  running. I mean, they're basically 2
• 1:52:05
  chassis cars, but they're running right now.
• 1:52:08
  But I feel like it's just 'cause we just have more technology now
• 1:52:12
  changed. Now, of course, you're going to
• 1:52:13
  use that technology. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:15
  Like we're car people. All right, learns Hack that.
• 1:52:17
  Baby in there, yeah. All right, back to August 13.
• 1:52:20
  But yeah, so like, I I, you know, I again, I I I was like
• 1:52:24
  just always wanted to do rally when I was a kid and like
• 1:52:26
  everything. And then I rediscovered rally,
• 1:52:28
  went to volunteer for that first round like bought my Rs in
• 1:52:31
  March. You bought that thing new, brand
• 1:52:33
  new, and you were expecting to destroy it.
• 1:52:35
  Yep. That was my intention.
• 1:52:38
  This is crazy. I bought that car brand new.
• 1:52:41
  I took delivery of it. I think it was March like 2nd
• 1:52:47
  2001 or whatever. Nice.
• 1:52:49
  Brand new car. Two weeks later, Bug Eye hit the
• 1:52:51
  dealership. By the way.
• 1:52:53
  No. And I had driven, so I had
• 1:52:55
  driven a bug eye. So I knew no, I drove a bug out
• 1:52:57
  of your X9 months before and I fucking hated it.
• 1:53:00
  I thought it was terrible. And I said OK, I'm going to buy
• 1:53:02
  an Rs, right? Because I was delivering press
• 1:53:05
  cars at the time, we had 26 different manufacturer press
• 1:53:08
  fleets that went out to everybody that would write
• 1:53:10
  articles on them and stuff like that.
• 1:53:11
  So I was driving cars months, sometimes years before they were
• 1:53:15
  even out. So I drove a bug eye.
• 1:53:17
  You didn't like it nine months before and hated it.
• 1:53:22
  Every turbo wheel drive car I had before that or every turbo
• 1:53:25
  car I had before that was an inline 4.
• 1:53:28
  So it was immediate turbo response, like no lag, no
• 1:53:32
  bullshit. I hated the way the bug eye
• 1:53:33
  looked initially. It was a four door wasn't cool
• 1:53:36
  like a 2 door Rs. Yeah, but the doors.
• 1:53:38
  I could see. I could see hating the way it
• 1:53:39
  looks. Terrible looks.
• 1:53:41
  The only thing I liked about that car when it first came out?
• 1:53:44
  The seats. Oh, bug eye interior is amazing.
• 1:53:48
  Not O four O 4 WX. Yeah, that's.
• 1:53:50
  Terrible. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:53:52
  They're blue. That has to be like that weird
• 1:53:54
  looking. They're like more like you know
• 1:53:55
  they got like bucket either they.
• 1:53:57
  Got like, yeah, but they don't. Look like bucket, right?
• 1:53:59
  They don't like seats are so bad, terrible.
• 1:54:02
  Yeah, the black ones that look. Like they would be better.
• 1:54:04
  They're blue. They'd be up, but they look like
• 1:54:06
  they. Would be bad in the STI, yeah.
• 1:54:08
  But they're not. Yeah, the bug eye seats were
• 1:54:11
  awesome. Too Bug Eye seats were good.
• 1:54:13
  Bug eye never. But that was the only thing I
• 1:54:15
  liked about the car. Sound system sucked.
• 1:54:17
  Go back to the engine. Handling side it, it had a lot
• 1:54:19
  of lag but. Yeah, I mean, you know, like the
• 1:54:22
  Subaru Turbo's all the way back here, you know?
• 1:54:24
  And the exhaust comes from here. Yeah.
• 1:54:25
  So like. And everything I had was like
• 1:54:27
  everything previous that I had turbo was like in Line 4 stuff,
• 1:54:30
  quick stuff, you know? So like you.
• 1:54:33
  Really noticed that. Turbo's on the manifold, just
• 1:54:35
  like an Sr. you know what I mean?
• 1:54:36
  So it's like, it's immediate, you know?
• 1:54:38
  So I hated the turbo leg. I hated the way the car drove.
• 1:54:40
  I hated the gearing in the car, hated the way it looked.
• 1:54:42
  I hated the brakes. I hated everything about.
• 1:54:44
  It so naturally you bought. You had to hate it a decent
• 1:54:46
  amount because you went to a car with no turbo.
• 1:54:49
  Yeah. In exchange, yeah.
• 1:54:50
  I went to an Rs. The Rs handled better.
• 1:54:52
  It looked better. It felt better.
• 1:54:54
  Everything about the Rs was better.
• 1:54:56
  So Nope, if I'm going to buy a rally car, buy in an Rs did.
• 1:55:00
  You feel like the bug eye was way bigger.
• 1:55:02
  Yeah, I felt like. It was like the fenders.
• 1:55:05
  It's not, though, that's the crazy.
• 1:55:06
  Yeah, it's not that. Like when you get down to the
• 1:55:08
  mechanics of that car, the only thing that makes that car bigger
• 1:55:11
  is the bumpers, the how, how they extend it.
• 1:55:14
  You know that way the car is the same width the car is.
• 1:55:17
  It just feels like a more modern car compared to the the GC so.
• 1:55:21
  Yeah, the car's the same width. So if you take the WRX dash out
• 1:55:24
  of it and you try to put it in a GC like all these nerds do,
• 1:55:27
  yeah. Hey, they don't fit.
• 1:55:29
  Don't do it. It's fucking stupid.
• 1:55:31
  Keep an Rs dash. God damn it.
• 1:55:34
  Anyways, it's the same width, yeah?
• 1:55:36
  And actually like even if you go to like newer Subarus, like a
• 1:55:40
  like a GR, like an O 8 to 14, it's the same width dash.
• 1:55:44
  I love those cars too. It's the same width.
• 1:55:46
  What's your opinion on those cars?
• 1:55:47
  GR. Hate them.
• 1:55:48
  They're the worst ones they ever made.
• 1:55:49
  OK, don't buy one. They handled terribly.
• 1:55:54
  How you feel about GD's right now?
• 1:55:55
  GD's. I love GD's now.
• 1:55:56
  OK, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:55:58
  No. After I I guess my first bug.
• 1:56:01
  I was actually my rally car in O 9, so I had nothing but GC's up
• 1:56:06
  until then. And then?
• 1:56:08
  Eventually. What made you say?
• 1:56:09
  OK, fuck it. Just the class everybody was
• 1:56:12
  driving like bug eye WX. 'S and then you just made it
• 1:56:15
  work and then. You had to conform.
• 1:56:16
  You had to sell out. So I bought a Bug Eye WX from
• 1:56:19
  like a customer of mine that was getting rid of it for like 3
• 1:56:22
  grand or something like that. Yeah.
• 1:56:24
  And then, you know, it had some mods on it.
• 1:56:26
  So I had to basically revert back to stock on a bunch of
• 1:56:28
  stuff to make the, you know, the car fit the rules and
• 1:56:32
  everything. But yeah, I mean, you know, the
• 1:56:35
  Rs was like the first real, I want to say it's the first
• 1:56:39
  Japanese car I ever had that I like, messed around with.
• 1:56:41
  But it was like the first car really ever did anything major?
• 1:56:43
  Like, it's the first car time I ever did like a motor swap on a
• 1:56:46
  Japan I was. Going to say so you you said you
• 1:56:47
  swapped the engine on that. Yeah, so I put AI put a 2 liter
• 1:56:50
  WX motor in it within the 1st 10 minutes of that car.
• 1:56:54
  So you so you put the engine that you had in the bug eye or
• 1:56:58
  that was in the bug eye, or is it?
• 1:57:00
  It was basically the same similar, yeah, it was a, it was
• 1:57:03
  a, you know, like an EJ2O5, yeah, whatever it was from
• 1:57:07
  Japan, but it was a so. Whatever they were putting.
• 1:57:09
  The good sounding one right where it's like.
• 1:57:11
  Any of the EJ's are better sounding anything well, equal
• 1:57:14
  length. Yeah, he's saying the equal
• 1:57:16
  length. Versus I don't like the I don't
• 1:57:18
  like the rumble shit. Oh, you don't like the rumble?
• 1:57:20
  Sounds like a misfire. Dude, Actually, yeah, it
• 1:57:23
  depends. Yeah, let's.
• 1:57:24
  It can. Let's settle this now too.
• 1:57:26
  Do they come unequal in Japan too?
• 1:57:28
  OK, because some of them. Depending on the year, depending
• 1:57:32
  on the year and what model it was.
• 1:57:33
  I mean obviously if like if it's like a STI bug eye 2O7 with a
• 1:57:38
  twin scroll, that's going to be equally.
• 1:57:40
  So any twins? Any twin scrolls going?
• 1:57:42
  To be from the factory. OK, that's what I remember.
• 1:57:44
  Yeah, finding one of those videos online was a nightmare,
• 1:57:47
  too. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:57:48
  They make more power. Twin scrolls have better
• 1:57:50
  delivery, like any GC that we swap.
• 1:57:53
  Like, I'm always like buy version 8, don't buy version
• 1:57:56
  seven, buy version 8, buy version nine.
• 1:57:58
  Put that in the car, You'll never have to do anything to the
• 1:58:02
  car. It's the best motor Subarus ever
• 1:58:03
  made in my opinion. Like version 8, version 8 two O
• 1:58:07
  7 is the shit. It's it's the motor you want in
• 1:58:11
  AGC if you get it with a 6 speed and everything like.
• 1:58:15
  That's the. Way to go.
• 1:58:15
  You ever watched that Grand Tour episode?
• 1:58:17
  I don't know if you watch Amazon.
• 1:58:19
  Maybe I don't. Know there was this.
• 1:58:21
  There was this episode where they had like a Evo and like A
• 1:58:25
  and like a Subaru and something else.
• 1:58:27
  I forgot what the other car was. Fuck whatever.
• 1:58:30
  But that Subaru sounds amazing. Don't know what it is.
• 1:58:33
  It's some sort of fancy one. What?
• 1:58:36
  What? What year?
• 1:58:37
  Cars. Are you talking G DS?
• 1:58:38
  Like, like blah Bye Hawkeye. A blah bye and it sounded
• 1:58:44
  awesome. That's.
• 1:58:45
  Probably sorry. I'm a little buzzed now for.
• 1:58:48
  RA or something, but. Yeah, probably an S2O four.
• 1:58:51
  Which they probably would have a twin scroll set up and then I
• 1:58:53
  guess. That that car when I.
• 1:58:54
  Hear the sound, all have the twin scroll set up.
• 1:58:56
  This fucking race car like bra. Like type of shit.
• 1:58:59
  That I could keep going, but I I know we I was going to ask your
• 1:59:02
  opinion on Evos and and Minsu. People, I love Evos.
• 1:59:05
  Honestly, you know what's crazy? I so I've been working on
• 1:59:08
  Subarus Nonstop since like since 2001.
• 1:59:11
  Yeah, but what'd you say here? Yeah, why?
• 1:59:13
  Are you about to say you like it more?
• 1:59:15
  No, no, no, no, I just. I thought.
• 1:59:17
  You. No.
• 1:59:17
  I thought you were crazy. Is like, since I moved right,
• 1:59:20
  like up here, I was just getting Subarus left and right, you
• 1:59:23
  know? And like, I'm known for building
• 1:59:24
  Subarus, you know, amongst other cars.
• 1:59:26
  But like, I'm really known for Subarus, so like, I moved S
• 1:59:31
  right dude. I've literally been working on
• 1:59:34
  nothing but Evos. Really.
• 1:59:35
  It's so weird. Dude, we got a friend here #1
• 1:59:39
  EVO supporter. Yeah.
• 1:59:41
  I I like Evos, but you know, I mean like Evos and Subarus.
• 1:59:44
  It's like any car. They some some bits of the car
• 1:59:48
  have drawbacks. You know what I mean?
• 1:59:49
  Like. I know the interior quality of
• 1:59:51
  the Evo I don't like as I. Hate the interior quality of the
• 1:59:54
  Evo? It's they are cheap interiors.
• 1:59:56
  It's full or. Short I would say everything but
• 1:59:59
  the engine and drivetrain. Like it's kind of.
• 2:00:03
  Cheap. Yeah, even the quality of the
• 2:00:05
  shells on. Those rot like hell.
• 2:00:08
  What the fuck? Yeah, sorry.
• 2:00:10
  They're crazy thin, you know, But but I mean, you know,
• 2:00:14
  they're, they're a cool little rally.
• 2:00:17
  OK, how about? How about?
• 2:00:18
  63 dude is is one of my favorite engines, yeah.
• 2:00:20
  Same All right. Drifting versus rally.
• 2:00:25
  What are you? Choosing.
• 2:00:26
  He paused. Yeah, that's hard, isn't it?
• 2:00:29
  Boom. That was a nice segue into the
• 2:00:31
  questions here. That was from Beastie Boy, 46.
• 2:00:34
  Bang, probably the. Best fucking transition I've
• 2:00:36
  ever had into that. I will say I I love drifting,
• 2:00:40
  right? Like, I like its accessibility.
• 2:00:42
  I like that you can put the car in crazier shit than you would
• 2:00:47
  ever do out on a rally stage. Like if you end up that sideways
• 2:00:50
  on a rally stage, hey, you're losing time or you're fucking
• 2:00:52
  crashing. Yeah, there's a problem.
• 2:00:54
  There's a problem, right? Is it cheaper?
• 2:01:00
  This is, this is a constant debate I have with Drifters,
• 2:01:04
  because I every drifter I know, right?
• 2:01:07
  I feel like wants to go rally but they feel like it's crazy
• 2:01:12
  expensive. I'm.
• 2:01:12
  Thinking that my Drifters with, I mean, I'm one of them.
• 2:01:16
  I think any type of racing that isn't drifting is really
• 2:01:18
  expensive. That's how I view it.
• 2:01:20
  So here's the thing. You don't need 100 plus $1000
• 2:01:27
  car to go rally. You don't.
• 2:01:29
  I rally a 240SX and a 370Z like. Yeah, he rallies the drift
• 2:01:34
  course. I know.
• 2:01:35
  I rally the Drift course. Honestly, it's I I like it like,
• 2:01:39
  like, I love like the style of like your car and stuff like
• 2:01:41
  that. It's low, it's cool.
• 2:01:43
  It's kitted like shit's sick, right?
• 2:01:46
  It's alright. Do that on a rally stage.
• 2:01:50
  Dude, a lowered car, not kidded. OK?
• 2:01:52
  Do. That on a rally stage.
• 2:01:54
  Not kidded. OK, OK.
• 2:01:55
  Like I don't. I whatever.
• 2:01:57
  Stock, body, stock, body stuff. Yeah, sure.
• 2:02:00
  KBB stuff. Whatever.
• 2:02:01
  Yeah, Nah. But like, you know, like stock,
• 2:02:05
  like my S dirt team was basically just like stock body.
• 2:02:07
  Like the only thing I put on it was like, I don't know, origin
• 2:02:10
  over fenders or whatever. Like, but stock bumpers, no side
• 2:02:13
  skirts, like, no wing, like whatever, right?
• 2:02:16
  But the car's? Stuff on the Ralph.
• 2:02:18
  The car's low for a rally car, you know what I mean?
• 2:02:20
  But dude, that thing looks sick on a stage.
• 2:02:24
  Dirt spraying like. You're taking that like like
• 2:02:27
  that kind? Of shit.
• 2:02:30
  No, I still jump it. I don't jump.
• 2:02:32
  I I never jumped the S13 the way I jumped my Fiesta or my
• 2:02:36
  Subarus. Or the 370?
• 2:02:38
  I have not jumped the 370. Yet Christ dude, I think it
• 2:02:41
  might cause an earthquake. Yeah.
• 2:02:43
  So it's a. Freaking shit.
• 2:02:44
  Load of weight. All right, so check this out.
• 2:02:46
  You guys are gonna like this, So talk about cost rally versus
• 2:02:50
  drifting, right? They don't make anything rally
• 2:02:54
  for suspension for 370Z, right? Like I could get custom
• 2:02:58
  suspension made for a 370Z. Yeah, but that's not going to
• 2:03:01
  add travel. That's the problem with the
• 2:03:03
  370Z. It doesn't have travel.
• 2:03:05
  What did you do? I know you're you're building
• 2:03:08
  up. What frontier?
• 2:03:10
  Pathfinder. What are we doing?
• 2:03:11
  You're on the right path. Oh.
• 2:03:13
  Shit, you're on the I knew it. I knew it.
• 2:03:15
  I knew it. It's not Nissan based.
• 2:03:18
  Toyota. No, it's a Subaru putting super
• 2:03:20
  suspension. In the Toyota.
• 2:03:21
  That's about to be like what Toyota now for putting.
• 2:03:24
  Subaru suspension in a 370Z. So.
• 2:03:28
  So typically what a lot of people do, like what a lot of
• 2:03:30
  people do with like Mark 2 Golfs, you know, like big rally
• 2:03:34
  car, you know, fairly entry level rally car, Mark two, you
• 2:03:38
  know Golfs. All people were using those all
• 2:03:41
  the time. Fiestas have now replaced those
• 2:03:43
  because they're a hell of a lot cheaper.
• 2:03:44
  There's a fuck ton more of them out there, you know, and you're
• 2:03:47
  not destroying someone. Front wheel drive setups.
• 2:03:49
  Yeah, front wheel drive cars, but a lot of people would take
• 2:03:52
  like Subaru suspension and at least take the front Subaru
• 2:03:54
  suspension and put it in a Mark Two Escort.
• 2:03:56
  And you're allowed to do that, yeah.
• 2:03:58
  Wow. Yeah, you know if you're in like
• 2:04:01
  the open Class 2 wheel drive, you can do whatever you want.
• 2:04:04
  Like our 2 wheel drive open class rules right now literally
• 2:04:07
  are two lines and one says must be two wheel drive, which I find
• 2:04:14
  hilarious, right. And I'm like, so I call up my
• 2:04:18
  guy at the the series and I was like, hey, Preston, like, so is
• 2:04:22
  this like really as cut and dry as it like I'm I'm reading this
• 2:04:25
  for like Open 2 Wheel drive. He's like, Oh yeah, yeah, you
• 2:04:28
  could literally do whatever you want.
• 2:04:29
  And I'm like. You say open 2 wheel drive front
• 2:04:31
  and rear can both Or is it divided?
• 2:04:34
  Yeah. So no.
• 2:04:35
  No, no. Just left wheels or right
• 2:04:37
  wheels. No.
• 2:04:38
  He's saying like is front. Its own class.
• 2:04:40
  Or is rear? Its own, yeah.
• 2:04:41
  No, they actually from they they combine them.
• 2:04:44
  Wow. Yeah.
• 2:04:45
  So they they the way that they split the class for like limited
• 2:04:49
  tool drive versus like open tool drive cuz there's a break in
• 2:04:54
  engine size. OK.
• 2:04:55
  So if you're like above 2500 CC, you're automatically an open
• 2:05:01
  tool drive. If you're below 2500 then you
• 2:05:03
  could be limited 2 wheel drive. You could even be limited 2
• 2:05:06
  wheel drive in like a like a Fiesta, like A16 turbo.
• 2:05:09
  I'm just trying to think of a way immediately to try to
• 2:05:11
  exploit the system, like immediately.
• 2:05:13
  That's what it's all. You're.
• 2:05:15
  Laughing, but that's literally what you need to do.
• 2:05:17
  It's racing. You want.
• 2:05:18
  You want to try to like, but that's the thing like.
• 2:05:20
  How open 2 wheel drive they're? Just like, oh, it just needs to
• 2:05:22
  be two wheel drive. Yeah, you can do whatever you.
• 2:05:24
  Want. But now I'm like, fucking guy's
• 2:05:25
  going to show up with something even crazier than me, and then
• 2:05:28
  it's. Going to fucking.
• 2:05:29
  I mean, it could, it could be a money chase.
• 2:05:31
  But that's the nice thing about rally here is like, it's not,
• 2:05:34
  it's not necessarily the money chase, right.
• 2:05:35
  Like the rules for most of the classes keep everybody sort of
• 2:05:39
  bottled up in terms of like how much money really you want to
• 2:05:42
  spend. Like, yeah, you can get, you can
• 2:05:43
  still get crazy, you know, But like most people don't.
• 2:05:47
  OK, but money aside now though, I feel like with drifting at
• 2:05:52
  least I don't know. For me, I feel like the chassis
• 2:05:56
  could be reparable if I go off or if I Mack a wall.
• 2:06:01
  OK. So you want to hear?
• 2:06:02
  That I feel like an rally. OK, so so I'm bonking something
• 2:06:06
  pretty hard. You're not wrong with that, but
• 2:06:09
  look at my S13. It's rolled three times.
• 2:06:12
  That thing is mangled. And I still drive it.
• 2:06:14
  And Chris did the last alignment on it, and it's got the best
• 2:06:17
  alignment on it right now that it's ever had.
• 2:06:19
  Damn. You heard that?
• 2:06:21
  Shit faction Motorsports. Alignment.
• 2:06:22
  Shout out for sure. Yeah, no, I mean for real.
• 2:06:25
  Like that. That thing is a tank.
• 2:06:28
  I forget when it was on the rack.
• 2:06:29
  Was was he? Was he having crazy problems
• 2:06:31
  with? Oh yeah, probably.
• 2:06:32
  Yeah. I feel like no, it was a we had
• 2:06:34
  a caster issue like the we couldn't.
• 2:06:36
  Get the caster. To match up in the front because
• 2:06:37
  the strut towers have moved. It doesn't matter the worst, the
• 2:06:40
  worst car that was on there was Ryan Turek owned S13.
• 2:06:43
  So nothing, nothing will beat that.
• 2:06:45
  Yeah, that bull happened that. Shit was dude.
• 2:06:48
  With the big fat. One frame you go under the car
• 2:06:50
  and one frame rail would be like fucking like this.
• 2:06:52
  Yeah, like an inch higher. Well I had plated my frame rails
• 2:06:56
  when I built that car, so I built my S13 on a rotisserie.
• 2:06:59
  So you could do some thick board slides.
• 2:07:01
  Dude, yeah, fuck yeah, dude. So I I stripped that car down to
• 2:07:05
  a bare shell, put it on a rotisserie, painted it on the
• 2:07:07
  rotisserie. Like that car was beautiful when
• 2:07:10
  I first put it. So crazy.
• 2:07:12
  It was the nicest. S13 photo.
• 2:07:14
  I would feel really horrible doing that.
• 2:07:19
  You have you seen his S13? He showed it to me.
• 2:07:21
  There were many different faces. On the lift.
• 2:07:23
  On the lift. Oh, currently it's a pile of
• 2:07:25
  shit. But you know, it's it.
• 2:07:28
  It's, yeah. But you got a lot of cars, which
• 2:07:30
  means you have like. And and I diversified, like,
• 2:07:35
  heavily. I used to be only super.
• 2:07:36
  Yo, you have but. I.
• 2:07:38
  Diversified heavily right now. You got a good palate.
• 2:07:41
  You've got a mini bro. Yeah, I mean, you covered
• 2:07:43
  everything. Oh, OK.
• 2:07:45
  Yeah, I got a class. Not your.
• 2:07:46
  Not your fucking ugly fucking. Thing I've been looking at, I've
• 2:07:49
  been looking at minis again, if you're going to.
• 2:07:51
  Buy a Mini if you're going to buy a.
• 2:07:52
  Mini get an R50. 6. I had AR53.
• 2:07:56
  No. Get a 56.
• 2:07:57
  I know I. Feel the same.
• 2:07:58
  The turbo is so much better. OK, I'm OK with an RR 56.
• 2:08:02
  What is after that? That's when I fell off.
• 2:08:04
  I didn't. Oh yeah, after.
• 2:08:05
  That with the barn door shit. I saw one here the other day.
• 2:08:08
  I was like it's a Cooper S but it's 4 door and the hood scoop
• 2:08:11
  is fake. Oh, those are the countrymen's.
• 2:08:13
  And the back door was a Cooper S 4 door.
• 2:08:15
  Not a Cooper S countrymen. Says Cooper S But it's still a
• 2:08:18
  Countrymen. Yeah, yeah, the countrymen is
• 2:08:20
  the 4 doors. Where's the country women?
• 2:08:23
  Shut up, Coral. It's 2024.
• 2:08:26
  What the fuck? You're right though, why did
• 2:08:28
  they do that? They call it a.
• 2:08:30
  Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
• 2:08:31
  But like, our 50 threes and 50 sixes are the only ones that
• 2:08:34
  matter. 53 was sick dude, 50 threes.
• 2:08:36
  Are charged. 50 threes are super cool, but I got to tell you I
• 2:08:39
  bought an O 9 like Cooper S the thing must have sticker brand
• 2:08:45
  new for like north of 40. Is it Turbo One or super?
• 2:08:47
  Turbo. Turbo.
• 2:08:48
  One is the one to have, I thought.
• 2:08:49
  Turbo 6 speed car. That's the one to have.
• 2:08:51
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, That's like the newer.
• 2:08:53
  Nice car. It was fun, huh?
• 2:08:55
  It was sick. Yeah, dude, the thing was so
• 2:08:58
  much fun. It was so much fun.
• 2:08:59
  I had to sell the damn thing because I was driving
• 2:09:02
  everywhere. Like I stole that fucking car.
• 2:09:05
  Talk about on and off ramps every day.
• 2:09:07
  Every on and off ramp 100 plus miles an hour.
• 2:09:09
  Yeah, really fun. Just picturing Frankie fucking
• 2:09:12
  zooming through traffic. Dude, they're cool dude.
• 2:09:14
  And on like on like all seasons like not even a good tires.
• 2:09:17
  Like I was on like some shitty all seasons that weren't even
• 2:09:20
  that great. That car was retarded.
• 2:09:22
  My wife was like, you need to sell that car.
• 2:09:25
  You're like, forget about getting a ticket and getting
• 2:09:27
  pulled over like they're going to throw your ass in jail when
• 2:09:30
  they catch you. You.
• 2:09:32
  She's like, you need to get rid of that car.
• 2:09:33
  And I had it for about, I don't know, three months.
• 2:09:36
  Literally, that's it. Three months through the winter.
• 2:09:39
  Why does everyone? And I sold it.
• 2:09:40
  Tell you to do a walnut blast immediately when you.
• 2:09:44
  Have that car. Oh, it's direct.
• 2:09:45
  Injection. Because everybody, everybody
• 2:09:49
  does it. Everybody that owns a Mini or a
• 2:09:51
  BMW. Like night.
• 2:09:53
  I'm not even kidding. Like, OK, so the company I
• 2:09:55
  worked for was BMW. So.
• 2:09:58
  So I work for BMW. Yeah, whatever.
• 2:10:03
  I. Don't care.
• 2:10:03
  I've been gone long enough. Fuck em.
• 2:10:06
  So basically, no. The problem is like 85% of minis
• 2:10:12
  and BMWs that are like, you know owned or like whatever, they're
• 2:10:15
  actually leases and like out of the all the leases that they
• 2:10:20
  have like something like some ridiculous number of like 85 or
• 2:10:25
  90% of people that Dr. BMWs or Minis drive them less than 5
• 2:10:31
  miles a day. I believe that.
• 2:10:33
  Because they're literally they live close to a a train station
• 2:10:37
  or a bus stop or like, whatever. Yeah, right.
• 2:10:40
  Yeah, yeah. They just like the cars they go.
• 2:10:41
  They have it, dude. So many people that have BMWs
• 2:10:44
  and like Mercedes and Minis and all that stuff that go right
• 2:10:48
  here to Rutherford train station to hop, to go to the city, dude,
• 2:10:50
  they all live right here. They don't drive ever.
• 2:10:53
  The cars never get warm. They never get warmed up, They
• 2:10:56
  never get driven on a highway. They never get run out.
• 2:10:59
  So the problem that we were seeing at BMW all the fucking
• 2:11:02
  time, every goddamn motor we had, especially direct injection
• 2:11:05
  cars, were that everything was gunking up and building on the
• 2:11:09
  back of the valves because nobody was driving them.
• 2:11:14
  We had a big problem too with crankcase vent like problems
• 2:11:17
  where like crankcase vents were like freezing because people
• 2:11:21
  were not letting the cars warm up.
• 2:11:23
  So the crankcase, we get all this moisture in them.
• 2:11:27
  That's from. Mount Washington.
• 2:11:29
  Holy shit. Mount Washington.
• 2:11:31
  You got a little sticker. It says that this car climbed
• 2:11:33
  Mount Washington. Actually the one that's on the
• 2:11:35
  back of the car says I own the record for that close yo.
• 2:11:41
  But yes, that's from 2017. So that's actually from
• 2:11:46
  competition day. Damn, Mount Washington looks
• 2:11:48
  crazy. I'm trying to hike that.
• 2:11:49
  So that is. Crazier than Pike's Peak.
• 2:11:52
  It's steeper than Pike's Peak. It has no guardrails.
• 2:11:54
  It had dirt. Up until.
• 2:11:57
  About a year or two ago really, and has just as much elevation
• 2:12:03
  gain and has just as many turns as Pike speak.
• 2:12:05
  And it's steeper, more narrow the road.
• 2:12:10
  The tarmac is not flat or smooth anywhere on the entire hill.
• 2:12:14
  What kind of knuckles you got on that?
• 2:12:16
  The bad boy right there. Nothing tie rod spacers.
• 2:12:21
  Yes, Sir. I love it.
• 2:12:23
  Tie rod spacers I did not put by the way.
• 2:12:25
  I've been I've been rallying and drifting this car and hill
• 2:12:28
  climbing this car since 2013. I have never put knuckles on
• 2:12:33
  that car up until literally two years ago.
• 2:12:37
  Fire. We were just.
• 2:12:38
  I've been running an A group since day one.
• 2:12:40
  I'm asking because the. Listeners need to hear.
• 2:12:43
  Because we in the video in in bad as hell, the Drift Alliance
• 2:12:48
  video, all the cars that's old school are like going back are
• 2:12:51
  like at an angle that I like watching.
• 2:12:55
  And drifting like, not crazy, not like.
• 2:12:57
  Just and I'm like, damn, that looks like a car that they're
• 2:13:01
  just trying to slide. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:13:03
  It's weird how crazy drifting is now.
• 2:13:05
  Like, it's so many different things.
• 2:13:07
  Yeah, like. By the way, we're developing
• 2:13:09
  that suspension with FDF for the 370.
• 2:13:12
  Oh really? Yeah, we're making full custom
• 2:13:14
  knuckles and everything, putting the Super suspension.
• 2:13:16
  There for. For rally.
• 2:13:18
  Yeah, wow. Like his favorite company.
• 2:13:21
  FDF. I just wanted to say that, yeah,
• 2:13:25
  just based on that. Durable as hell though.
• 2:13:27
  Dude, I want to run those rear lowers.
• 2:13:30
  Did you see the ones that Chris installed on on you guys's one
• 2:13:32
  customer car? Which car was it?
• 2:13:34
  IS dude, they just looked like they would hold a forklift.
• 2:13:39
  No, I mean. Josiah knows what he's talking
• 2:13:41
  about. He knows what he's doing.
• 2:13:42
  Like, dude he he just. Needs a different guy in the
• 2:13:44
  shipping department. Yeah, no, I'm with you, but like
• 2:13:47
  you. Kidding.
• 2:13:48
  Me, Yeah. I mean, obviously time and
• 2:13:49
  effort goes in there. That's why I feel like you don't
• 2:13:51
  like. Other videos and shit that like
• 2:13:54
  that have nothing to do and they're like, yeah, after yeah,
• 2:13:56
  if they forgot this fucking part, I'm like, OK, I'm glad
• 2:13:59
  we're not the only ones that are dealing with this, but the
• 2:14:01
  products are fine. It's just whoever's shipping the
• 2:14:03
  stuff out is like. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:14:05
  Yeah. No, I get that.
• 2:14:06
  I have. I have a similar problem with
• 2:14:07
  another company, but we'll talk about that after.
• 2:14:09
  Yeah. Yeah, I have.
• 2:14:10
  No. Wait, I just want to get.
• 2:14:13
  We have a few of these questions and.
• 2:14:14
  Let's go with questions. I feel bad.
• 2:14:16
  We might have to just pick like maybe four or five.
• 2:14:18
  Of these, whatever you. Want to do fuck load of them.
• 2:14:20
  This one's from my friend. Stevie, everybody.
• 2:14:22
  This one still? Got questions for you, so you
• 2:14:23
  got to come back. And wait wait.
• 2:14:25
  But I did want to say somebody named Hugh Blow in the chat said
• 2:14:30
  shout out to Billy from your friends at Daikoku NYC.
• 2:14:33
  Really happy to support you bro. They were having.
• 2:14:36
  They've been having meats, I think, yeah.
• 2:14:38
  Yeah, the daikoku. Dude, you've been on the social
• 2:14:40
  media, Frankie, and know it for a fact.
• 2:14:42
  That's where I saw Daikoku NYC, yeah.
• 2:14:45
  Yeah, I've seen that before. Yeah, they do.
• 2:14:46
  They do. These It sucks, man, because
• 2:14:48
  like, I'm in this group, right? And we are.
• 2:14:52
  Massive, yo, we have this massive chat group on fucking
• 2:14:54
  Instagram, right? And like, dude, I want to go out
• 2:14:58
  to these meets. And now you're 3 hours away.
• 2:15:00
  But now I don't live right on the other side of the GWB.
• 2:15:02
  You're not outside the, you know, Lincoln Tunnel anymore.
• 2:15:05
  Like now I'm two hours away. Now you got to go to
• 2:15:07
  Philadelphia now. I'm going to come up this year.
• 2:15:09
  I'm going to come up this year for sure with with probably the
• 2:15:12
  Z and you know, flex that a little bit with like.
• 2:15:16
  In rally mode though. Yeah, yeah, once I get the full
• 2:15:18
  rally. Inspection.
• 2:15:19
  Done. Oh yeah.
• 2:15:20
  I think it'll be jacked up. He's.
• 2:15:22
  Got the lights on it. Oh.
• 2:15:23
  Yeah, I bet you wish you could. Fucking.
• 2:15:26
  Oh yeah, we'll find some jumps. We'll do something stupid.
• 2:15:29
  But. All right, big shaft and tiny
• 2:15:31
  balls are monster balls and small shaft.
• 2:15:36
  That's my next question. Yeah, I thought you were going
• 2:15:38
  with somebody's screen name at that.
• 2:15:40
  You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to repeat the.
• 2:15:41
  Question. So long shaft or.
• 2:15:44
  Big shaft, Tiny balls or or big balls?
• 2:15:50
  Tiny shaft. I feel like it's pretty obvious.
• 2:15:51
  But maybe I'm wrong. Well answer.
• 2:15:55
  Long shaft. You're going long shaft, yeah.
• 2:15:58
  The balls don't do anything. Depends on what you're looking
• 2:16:01
  at, right? I guess I don't.
• 2:16:02
  Know. I don't know.
• 2:16:03
  Yeah, big. Big ass balls are just
• 2:16:05
  inconvenient, yeah. I feel like that would hurt.
• 2:16:08
  Like you want big ball? Yeah.
• 2:16:09
  Like the saying, yeah. But I.
• 2:16:11
  Don't. Want.
• 2:16:11
  Big balls when you're racing, yeah, but you know.
• 2:16:13
  I do big ball shit, but it'd be cool to have a big shaft.
• 2:16:17
  I'm just going to transvestite it.
• 2:16:18
  I'm just going to just. Try to get rid of both.
• 2:16:20
  Cut it off. Yeah, whatever.
• 2:16:21
  That is more efficient. Subaru owners that's.
• 2:16:24
  Why? You know I don't travel.
• 2:16:26
  Forester we're getting. Cancelled in the last 20
• 2:16:28
  minutes. Trying to forester.
• 2:16:31
  Dude, I wanted a. Forester so bad before I got the
• 2:16:33
  truck and then the whole, like, that whole lesbian thing, that
• 2:16:36
  whole lesbian thing was, I was like, OK, I guess I can't get
• 2:16:39
  one. Earlier, Earlier we were talking
• 2:16:40
  about Mini Coopers. I was like, Frankie's going to
• 2:16:42
  look like that fine ass chick from the Italian.
• 2:16:44
  That's. Where I draw the line, I'll get
• 2:16:46
  a Mini Cooper because those things are sick.
• 2:16:47
  Love Minis, What is this? Given the opportunity, which
• 2:16:50
  classic rally car would you want to drive?
• 2:16:52
  Mine would be the Audi Quattro based on the look and sound of
• 2:16:55
  it. OK, so I kind of already
• 2:16:57
  answered this question because I'm a freaking nerd.
• 2:17:00
  Cujo 2O5T16I Grew. Up.
• 2:17:03
  What does that look like? Malcolm, do you mind putting a?
• 2:17:05
  Picture of that two OO5T16. I know what the.
• 2:17:08
  That's the Group E car. What was?
• 2:17:09
  It T16. 2O5T16PE UGEO T2O5T16. 2O5T16 Yeah, I'm going to be
• 2:17:21
  saying that shit in my fucking sleep.
• 2:17:23
  God damn it, Billy. Oh, hell yeah.
• 2:17:26
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 2:17:27
  Yeah. Like this guy.
• 2:17:28
  Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
• 2:17:29
  Yeah, with the big wing. Yeah, get the big one right
• 2:17:32
  there. Yeah.
• 2:17:33
  That's the car. Right there, Evo.
• 2:17:34
  Two. That's the.
• 2:17:36
  Car that is sick. Yo, there's the go back right
• 2:17:40
  there and it shows you how where the engine is.
• 2:17:42
  What the fuck? Yep.
• 2:17:44
  Yo, that shit got one. One liter turbo producing close
• 2:17:50
  to 600 horsepower. Holy.
• 2:17:52
  Shit. And that, and that's a tube
• 2:17:54
  framed car. Dude, this is the size of like
• 2:17:56
  an EG hatch. Dude, I.
• 2:18:00
  This is the size of an EG hatch with four wheel drive, 4 wheel
• 2:18:03
  drive, not all-wheel. Mid engine. 4 wheel drive and
• 2:18:06
  mid motor with turbo and intercolors behind your head.
• 2:18:09
  God I fall. Kevlar body Work Car weighs
• 2:18:12
  nothing. Car weighs under Like Car weighs
• 2:18:14
  like 2000 lbs. Look at that shit.
• 2:18:19
  Yeah, that just looks like a suicide.
• 2:18:20
  Machine now OK look at the road going version DK Engineering
• 2:18:23
  bottom right DK. Oh, yeah, they they like now.
• 2:18:26
  Now a road going so. This was the homology 3.
• 2:18:29
  Car. OK, this was the five.
• 2:18:31
  So the engine. These only made like 200
• 2:18:33
  horsepower. Where's the engine, Malcolm?
• 2:18:34
  Do you mind clicking to do those four photos?
• 2:18:36
  Yeah, same thing in the back. Look at that one.
• 2:18:38
  So would you take one they still open up in the back?
• 2:18:40
  Yeah. Oh wow, they do open up in the
• 2:18:42
  back. Still in the stop form, huh?
• 2:18:43
  Yeah, yeah, they basically just took those and then just put up
• 2:18:46
  a, you know, a hopped up motor and four load everything.
• 2:18:49
  In it? Well, well, now that looks like
• 2:18:50
  a mini Max or whatever. Mighty Max or whatever.
• 2:18:53
  How much power does that make? They only made 2200 horsepower
• 2:18:56
  or something like that. They weren't.
• 2:18:57
  I thought, yeah, 2 to 300 horsepower, they didn't, you
• 2:19:00
  know and you got to think like this was the like the mid.
• 2:19:02
  That's still. 80s where like AV8 Camaro.
• 2:19:07
  Made 150. Right. 180 horsepower, you know
• 2:19:10
  what I mean? So this thing was already 20
• 2:19:11
  horsepower I. Expect him to look after one
• 2:19:14
  lap. Oh, Nah, with. 600 horsepower,
• 2:19:17
  yeah. You know, look at the motor.
• 2:19:18
  Now there's some gnarly wrecks that was.
• 2:19:19
  That was that was probably the worst 2O5 wreck ever.
• 2:19:23
  Damn near killed the guy. Yo-yo, yo, what about the
• 2:19:25
  driver, Malcolm? I want to see the driver of that
• 2:19:28
  Peugeot Sport right there. That's Ari Botman, yeah.
• 2:19:31
  That's how Carl's trying. To be That's actually a four O 5
• 2:19:33
  T 16. That's the Pikes Peak car.
• 2:19:34
  That's what he set the record with.
• 2:19:36
  I want to go. Back to a question real quick
• 2:19:37
  that we didn't answer. He already said big.
• 2:19:40
  Show drifting a rally. So drifting a rally, I would
• 2:19:43
  say, if money was no object. Like, even just say like I have
• 2:19:49
  the cars I have right now. Yeah, right.
• 2:19:51
  S thirteen 370Z, right? We'll call the 370Z the rally
• 2:19:55
  car and my S13. Now just the drift car, 'cause
• 2:19:57
  it's just a pile of shit, it is. Oh.
• 2:19:59
  It's just a pile of. Shit.
• 2:20:00
  But no. Honestly.
• 2:20:02
  I mean hands down, everyday rally.
• 2:20:05
  I thought so. Hands down, everyday rally.
• 2:20:08
  I love drifting for what it can provide from a driver practice
• 2:20:14
  standpoint of thing and just straight up having fun with your
• 2:20:17
  friends. Honestly, like you can't get
• 2:20:19
  that with rally, right? Obviously.
• 2:20:21
  Like from a competition standpoint of things like rally
• 2:20:23
  is like, you know, obviously competition, you're trying to go
• 2:20:27
  as fast as you possibly can, whereas like drifting is like
• 2:20:30
  something you could do with your friends, have a ball like crash
• 2:20:33
  doors, like you know, crashing the walls, whatever.
• 2:20:36
  You know, like that's more fun from that sort of aspect.
• 2:20:40
  Like, it's more it's more of like a friend activity.
• 2:20:43
  Yeah, you know what I mean, Than than like a competition.
• 2:20:46
  Yeah. You know, like I competed in
• 2:20:48
  like US drift like way back when, and I did it solely for
• 2:20:54
  the fact that I just wanted to go drive other tracks.
• 2:20:56
  Yeah. Versus rally where it's.
• 2:20:59
  I did it for the competition too, a little bit, but like, no,
• 2:21:01
  no, no. It was a stock Sr.
• 2:21:03
  Stock Sr. with 15 inch wheels and tires, yeah.
• 2:21:06
  But rally driving. That's.
• 2:21:08
  Great. Has more of a purpose.
• 2:21:13
  Would you say that? Would you say there's a, there's
• 2:21:15
  a more? Purpose.
• 2:21:16
  If he was drifting for fun and then he did the comp, shit, he'd
• 2:21:19
  probably be like, man, I. Don't know.
• 2:21:20
  It's honestly like when I go to like time attack stuff, I get
• 2:21:23
  bored out of my mind. It's just like you're just it's
• 2:21:26
  like a track day. Like people go to those track
• 2:21:28
  days. It's fun.
• 2:21:28
  Go to track days if you have a car.
• 2:21:30
  Like, I'm not mocking you guys, but like, I'm kind of beyond
• 2:21:34
  that a little bit like. I feel like once you go rally,
• 2:21:36
  it's like. Yeah, I mean it well, I mean
• 2:21:38
  even drifting. Like drifting.
• 2:21:39
  So much more exciting than like, just.
• 2:21:41
  I like drift. I like drifting because, like, I
• 2:21:45
  don't even know why I fucking like drifting sometimes.
• 2:21:48
  I'm trying to think of it now. I'm like, why do I like when the
• 2:21:50
  car goes? My top two out of all the
• 2:21:52
  racing. I do, but why?
• 2:21:53
  What is racing? What did it?
• 2:21:54
  What is it about the when the car gets sideways like that that
• 2:21:58
  makes me fancy it so much? Like I fucking love doing that
• 2:22:03
  in any. Because it feels, it feels, it
• 2:22:05
  feels like it should be out of control.
• 2:22:06
  Yeah, it feels it. Feels like you shouldn't be
• 2:22:08
  doing it or it. Looks the coolest it like.
• 2:22:10
  Yo, definitely. You know what?
• 2:22:11
  You know what looks cooler when you're sideways in a drift car
• 2:22:15
  on a rally? Stage.
• 2:22:16
  That's. That's.
• 2:22:17
  Somebody asked. Somebody asked here, when you're
• 2:22:20
  going to sell posters of the Safari Z.
• 2:22:23
  That's from Ram Sobinson. Soon you've got Safari would be
• 2:22:28
  fired. Soon, yeah.
• 2:22:29
  No, we're going to do posters for that soon.
• 2:22:31
  And he's just, that's just a plug for him.
• 2:22:34
  He's doing that. He's doing the posters.
• 2:22:36
  Damn it, man, he's probably. That was really smart, that was.
• 2:22:39
  Smart. Yeah, he's doing the posters.
• 2:22:41
  He's he's Sam Robinson. He comes to a lot of like drift
• 2:22:44
  events at Club Loose. He does a lot of FD stuff.
• 2:22:47
  He came down and actually shot like some professional pictures
• 2:22:50
  of my Mini so I can put it up for sale on, bring a trailer so
• 2:22:52
  I can go back rallying this year.
• 2:22:54
  But yeah, I mean, I don't know, like, yeah, rally or drifting.
• 2:23:00
  I mean, you know, rally hands down.
• 2:23:02
  Because rally, I feel like, brings you to some of the most
• 2:23:05
  beautiful places in the world you would never think to go to.
• 2:23:08
  Like. Especially like, who the fuck
• 2:23:09
  wants to go to Northern Michigan in the middle of the winter?
• 2:23:12
  No one. I was just about to ask later,
• 2:23:14
  Why would you? But when you go for rally, Oh
• 2:23:16
  my. God.
• 2:23:16
  Oh yeah, we're out. Like, so cool.
• 2:23:18
  So much fun. Like what?
• 2:23:20
  An atmosphere. Well, it's just like it's just
• 2:23:21
  like if you were to put yourself in the situation of living.
• 2:23:24
  Pull up, pull up Bonfire Alley, do a do a Google search for.
• 2:23:27
  Bond Malcolm. Bonfi Alley, please.
• 2:23:32
  I need food, dude. Right there, just just pull up a
• 2:23:36
  video like this one right here or something like is that a
• 2:23:40
  video? Fuck is that?
• 2:23:41
  So this is the last stage of. Oh yeah, bro, Anywhere where
• 2:23:45
  you're pulling the cooler with the sled.
• 2:23:47
  Look at this. Look at this.
• 2:23:48
  We have huge. Man, that's cool.
• 2:23:50
  Bonfires at night. Bro boys, we're doing the wrong
• 2:23:53
  sport. They're doing the fun shit still
• 2:23:55
  at rally. We're doing the wrong sport.
• 2:23:58
  Who the fuck? No idea, no idea.
• 2:24:01
  I think rally is definitely pretty comparable to drifting
• 2:24:04
  like the the fans are, hey. There's my first car right
• 2:24:07
  there. No, I mean, these dudes are like
• 2:24:09
  all these fans are out there for like.
• 2:24:11
  I mean, they didn't just, like, show up like they were out there
• 2:24:14
  all. Day What the?
• 2:24:15
  Fuck yo, Frankie. I would be acting a clown.
• 2:24:18
  I know. So what am I allowed to do?
• 2:24:20
  Mighty fluid and like gasoline on the bonfires to make them
• 2:24:24
  like ball up as you're driving by and you can actually feel the
• 2:24:26
  heat in the car like through the glass.
• 2:24:28
  Oh, he beefed. He beefed.
• 2:24:29
  He beefed, He beefed. I'd feel like a damn fool.
• 2:24:33
  Oh, he beefed again. But like, how cool is this?
• 2:24:35
  Like, yo, you can't tell me you wouldn't have fun doing
• 2:24:38
  something. I still.
• 2:24:39
  Love that they're using. These parts, even just Mctating
• 2:24:41
  this is. Fun.
• 2:24:41
  I think This is why I'm not meant to be a race car driver.
• 2:24:43
  Because you know what I'm thinking right here?
• 2:24:45
  I would pull up and right there I would slow down.
• 2:24:49
  I would slow down right there. Do a launch and hold the and and
• 2:24:53
  do something. Yo and everybody would go wild.
• 2:24:56
  They would go nuts. Everybody goes nuts.
• 2:24:58
  That's why I'm in a drifting. Are there enough left?
• 2:25:02
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:25:03
  This is why I'm into drifting. Now in.
• 2:25:04
  Frank, you guys just hit trees every once in a while.
• 2:25:07
  Every now and then. Was that a fucking D?
• 2:25:09
  SMDSM yeah, we don't have a lot of, we don't have a lot of Evos
• 2:25:14
  going anymore. But like there was a time and
• 2:25:17
  rally in the US where there was more Evos than.
• 2:25:20
  Super Honda Passport that just went by.
• 2:25:22
  Yep, Honda Passport. That's a factory Honda effort
• 2:25:25
  too. There are more.
• 2:25:26
  That's the factory Honda team. Dude, bring me back to when it
• 2:25:29
  was G DS. What is that?
• 2:25:31
  It's a truck. No way it's a Tacoma.
• 2:25:32
  That's maybe the sweep guys. Those are the guys that are
• 2:25:35
  probably closing the stage. Yeah, those are the guys that
• 2:25:37
  are closing the stage. That's the end of the stage.
• 2:25:39
  Oh shit, yeah, a Raptor. So.
• 2:25:41
  No, but that to me that looked. I want to do that.
• 2:25:47
  Honestly, just spectating is fun.
• 2:25:49
  Like like stuff like that, like watching rally.
• 2:25:51
  It's not like watching drifting right, like it's a race, right?
• 2:25:54
  People are. Cars are coming by you one
• 2:25:56
  minute intervals, right? So you see a car.
• 2:25:59
  If you get a good spot to spectate, you're maybe going to
• 2:26:01
  see a car for 20 seconds, you know what I mean?
• 2:26:04
  But you're going to see every car that's in the rally for 20
• 2:26:08
  seconds at like 1 minute intervals, but you're out in the
• 2:26:11
  middle of nowhere. You got to pick a good corner.
• 2:26:14
  Yeah, you got to find a good spot.
• 2:26:15
  Make sure you're not. In the kill zone.
• 2:26:16
  Yeah, that's the big thing. But no, I mean, like, you know,
• 2:26:20
  they have like designated spectator areas where, like,
• 2:26:23
  people, you know, and there's crowd control there so that
• 2:26:25
  people aren't in the bad spaces, you know?
• 2:26:28
  But like, I don't know, like, Rally's like an adventure, You
• 2:26:32
  know what I mean? It's like, yeah, you're in a
• 2:26:35
  competition, but like, you have to, you have to basically
• 2:26:39
  compete with yourself first. Like, you have to get through
• 2:26:41
  the rally. The car's got to hold itself
• 2:26:43
  together. You got to hold yourself
• 2:26:45
  together, you know, and like, get through the rally to the
• 2:26:49
  finish before you can even really be like, OK, where did I
• 2:26:52
  do compared to everybody else? You know what I mean?
• 2:26:54
  Like, yeah, there's a competition aspect to it, but
• 2:26:56
  like, I don't know, like I've had some of the in most insane
• 2:27:01
  times at rallies were some of my absolute worst performances in
• 2:27:06
  terms of like where I podiumed or like finished or whatever,
• 2:27:09
  you know what I mean? Like some of the most memorable
• 2:27:12
  and most like insane efforts I've ever had in racing have
• 2:27:16
  always been involved in rally. I feel like a lot of these
• 2:27:19
  questions that I have here are about that most memorable moment
• 2:27:23
  in that. Career of yours?
• 2:27:25
  So do you. Have like anything that you can
• 2:27:26
  like pinpoint on? Oh my God.
• 2:27:28
  OK, so there's a little bit of a story.
• 2:27:31
  So I mean, obviously I've got a lot of different memories from
• 2:27:35
  like races I've won and like, I don't know, just like stuff.
• 2:27:40
  Stuff that I've done. There's a lot of different
• 2:27:43
  stuff. But I mean ultimately, like
• 2:27:45
  again, like the, like some of the worst rallies I've ever had,
• 2:27:48
  you know, like have been like the most memorable.
• 2:27:50
  This one's insane. I tell this story to a few
• 2:27:53
  people every now and then, whenever I can.
• 2:27:55
  What's the car? So the S13?
• 2:27:58
  Yes. All right.
• 2:27:58
  So that's, you know, S13 problems right off the bat.
• 2:28:03
  So this was like STPR. So this is like my home rally,
• 2:28:08
  what I consider my home rally, right?
• 2:28:09
  Because it's like Pennsylvania is 4 hours away.
• 2:28:11
  It's like that was the first rally I went and volunteered for
• 2:28:14
  or whatever. So it's like my home event.
• 2:28:16
  I've been going non-stop. I think I missed one year since
• 2:28:19
  2001. Whoa, I've gone every year and
• 2:28:23
  I've been. There up here.
• 2:28:25
  What's that? On a points basis, you're up
• 2:28:27
  there. Yeah, I've been there for 24 out
• 2:28:30
  of 25 years. Jesus Christ And but yeah, like
• 2:28:34
  I've been there. Like I started as volunteering.
• 2:28:36
  Then I then like the second year I volunteered.
• 2:28:38
  The third year I was crewing. I crewed basically every year
• 2:28:42
  from then on I was safety steward. 2016 I competed my
• 2:28:49
  first time at SDPR in 2010, blew a motor in.
• 2:28:56
  My GC, didn't finish the rally. I've never finished that rally
• 2:29:00
  from start to finish. I've only done it twice.
• 2:29:02
  But I've never, I've never finished that rally from start
• 2:29:05
  to finish. Oh my God.
• 2:29:06
  So the first time I blew a blew an engine.
• 2:29:09
  The second time I'll tell you about in a second, that was
• 2:29:11
  2015. Second time I actually ran that
• 2:29:13
  rally and then 2016 I was safety steward. 2017 I announced or
• 2:29:17
  2018I announced for ARA. Had a little mic and everything
• 2:29:22
  on me. Hey guys I am now.
• 2:29:25
  Spin I've been like, I don't know that I've gotten back into
• 2:29:30
  crewing for some cars. So ironically I'm like crewing
• 2:29:33
  for an Evo 10 right now. Actually a pair of Evo 10s and
• 2:29:37
  I'm trying to get some other cars in, but whatever 2015 I go
• 2:29:41
  in the S13 right? So we leave the shop.
• 2:29:44
  We've of course we're thrashing to prep cars we ended up
• 2:29:47
  building AGCI had AI, had AGC rental like an RS4 door car
• 2:29:52
  2000RS sedan that I built into a rental was my daily driver.
• 2:29:56
  What do you mean, a rental? So I was renting the rally car
• 2:29:59
  to some people to drive and race on the weekend, so is.
• 2:30:03
  That a thing? Yeah, one of my customers wanted
• 2:30:05
  to go rally. So then you built a car for them
• 2:30:09
  to rent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:30:10
  So him and his sister wanted to go rally.
• 2:30:12
  They grew up in a rally family from the Middle East, they're
• 2:30:13
  from like India, but they, like, lived in the Middle East.
• 2:30:16
  And they went to like they grew up volunteering at rallies as
• 2:30:18
  like little kids. So then they moved to the US,
• 2:30:22
  start volunteering for rallies, yadda yadda yadda.
• 2:30:26
  But I was just like, yeah, like, if you want to go rally, like,
• 2:30:29
  I've been looking for an excuse to turn my daily in into a rally
• 2:30:32
  car that I could rent. And he's like, yeah, I was like,
• 2:30:36
  yeah, why not? Like, like, I don't know, like
• 2:30:38
  if if you could commit to three rallies this year in that car,
• 2:30:43
  I'll build it as a rally car. That's an interesting business
• 2:30:46
  model. I'm going to have to talk to
• 2:30:48
  some buddies about that later on in the Discord tonight, Diego.
• 2:30:52
  But but yeah, so anyway, so, so in typical me fashion, I do
• 2:30:58
  everything last minute I I built that car in 22 days.
• 2:31:02
  So. Bro, 22 days.
• 2:31:03
  So I drove that car. From stock form.
• 2:31:06
  Yep, stock Rs to Rally Ready Form to 100% at a rally racing
• 2:31:10
  on day 22. Now, me personally, I want to
• 2:31:13
  think in my head and I'm going to diss you to Frankie.
• 2:31:17
  Do you think you could build a drift car in 22 days?
• 2:31:19
  I think I could. I don't know.
• 2:31:22
  That's where that comes in. I feel like rally there's
• 2:31:26
  there's gotta be way. More like you're caging it.
• 2:31:29
  And everything. You're caging it.
• 2:31:30
  You're caged. You need the cage.
• 2:31:33
  Lines like. Can you rally without a cage?
• 2:31:36
  No. Definitely.
• 2:31:37
  Definitely. That's where the mat that that's
• 2:31:39
  where the money is. We'll try that at home.
• 2:31:41
  Yeah. No, don't.
• 2:31:42
  Don't go do that. What's?
• 2:31:43
  The fastest you've gone in the forest.
• 2:31:44
  No cage, I'll tell you right now.
• 2:31:46
  Mine. Not fast for me, 5050.
• 2:31:49
  Yeah, I don't even want to tell you guys.
• 2:31:51
  It was so bad. Yeah, I don't want.
• 2:31:52
  To know bro. But like north of 100 N of 100.
• 2:31:55
  No cage. No cage.
• 2:31:56
  Three people in the car. That's Bill is a legend hood.
• 2:32:00
  Yeah, hood as fuck. He's the rally version of the
• 2:32:02
  street. Doesn't make it worse.
• 2:32:03
  It was on the. Street Yeah, you're Rally Jesse
• 2:32:05
  Streeter. Yeah, literally.
• 2:32:06
  Jesus, right? 100 Through the woods, in the
• 2:32:09
  snow, you're looking in it. In the snow.
• 2:32:12
  OK, for some reason I feel like I I feel like I like going
• 2:32:16
  faster in the snow because in the koya I went around 40
• 2:32:22
  through the woods in the snow, that's fast.
• 2:32:25
  Yeah. Anything in the woods is.
• 2:32:26
  Fast. I felt like a tunnel.
• 2:32:28
  But anyway, like the fact that it was snowing, it kind of like
• 2:32:30
  leveled it out a little bit more.
• 2:32:33
  Yeah, yeah. And I've I've done like 105 in
• 2:32:35
  the snow with people in the car. No cage.
• 2:32:38
  It's. Dope dude.
• 2:32:39
  Having people in the car makes you just go faster immediately.
• 2:32:42
  Oh yeah, yeah, you do stupid things when you're young.
• 2:32:44
  The fact that I'm still here to like, do this podcast and got
• 2:32:47
  through my 20s bless is shocking.
• 2:32:49
  More life too. Like, I hope you could keep
• 2:32:51
  doing cool stuff like that. That's.
• 2:32:53
  The story. Though isn't that awesome
• 2:32:54
  though? 104 oh wait wait, is that?
• 2:32:57
  Is that where we're talking? About this, That's the 20, yeah.
• 2:32:59
  So anyway. The Oh yeah, 1000.
• 2:33:00
  Rs. Yeah, we'll be here for.
• 2:33:02
  Two main stories. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:33:03
  So the 2000 Rs built that car. Literally drove it in.
• 2:33:06
  My shop has like my daily full interior car.
• 2:33:09
  How to cage it? How to gut it?
• 2:33:11
  How to do like? Shift the car painted.
• 2:33:12
  The interior wrap the car like the car looked great.
• 2:33:17
  Day 22, we go to, like, you know, not even Day 22.
• 2:33:21
  Day. Well, yeah, whatever.
• 2:33:22
  Day 22, we go to go out to the rally, right.
• 2:33:25
  This one, Alex Jager was working for me.
• 2:33:27
  I had my fab dude with me in the middle of the 22 days.
• 2:33:31
  My fab dude like took a week vacation.
• 2:33:34
  He like, cranked out the cage in like a week, week and a half.
• 2:33:38
  Why did? He take a cage.
• 2:33:40
  He had scheduled, like, you know, months in advance, you
• 2:33:43
  know what I mean? But, like, he just had a
• 2:33:45
  vacation, just ironically, like, right in between.
• 2:33:47
  Because he knew, like, the season was going to kick off and
• 2:33:49
  it was getting crazy. So he's like, oh, let me go on
• 2:33:50
  vacation before that happens. Anyways, he banged out a cage.
• 2:33:54
  I finished everything else in the car.
• 2:33:56
  You know, Alex Jaeger helped me with, you know, everything else.
• 2:33:59
  And then we go, we go to go to the rally and I'm like, all
• 2:34:04
  right, you guys, I've been, I've been daily driving this car for
• 2:34:08
  fucking two years, dude. I'm like, all right, Alex, you
• 2:34:11
  take the rally rental, you and Justin take that to your house
• 2:34:17
  because we're going to take his truck and his trailer and like
• 2:34:20
  pop the rental on that and then jam out.
• 2:34:22
  So I had the S13 on my trailer and they left like maybe half an
• 2:34:28
  hour before me. They get to the interchange like
• 2:34:30
  80 and 287 and they're like I think the motor just went.
• 2:34:35
  On the, on the rally car, on the supposed, on the.
• 2:34:38
  Rally rental car on the that I've been driving for two years.
• 2:34:41
  What the fuck? So this this all starts with
• 2:34:43
  like. OK, yeah, that car did not want
• 2:34:45
  to go to the rally. No, it didn't.
• 2:34:46
  It did not want to go to the. Rally The car looked so good
• 2:34:49
  too, like when we finished it like it like.
• 2:34:52
  Probably looks so tough. Like, yeah.
• 2:34:55
  Dude, this looks. Like a rally.
• 2:34:56
  Car. So yeah, so that like, you know,
• 2:34:58
  Alex had to drive basically from, you know, Union City where
• 2:35:00
  the old shop was up to Sparta, right, to get his truck and
• 2:35:04
  trailer and like load the car. But they get to 287 and 80 and
• 2:35:08
  the car dies and they're like, yeah, we're just on the side of
• 2:35:11
  the road. Like we're pretty sure the
• 2:35:13
  motor's dead. Yo, I lost a Subaru there too.
• 2:35:16
  Jesus Christ, really. I'm like, are you kidding me?
• 2:35:18
  And like, part of me knew that Alex was probably going to beat
• 2:35:21
  the shit out of it. And I didn't tell him at the
• 2:35:24
  time, but I wanted him to because I didn't want this to
• 2:35:28
  happen in the middle of the rally, you know what I mean?
• 2:35:29
  Like, I didn't want the people to like that were renting the
• 2:35:31
  car to start the rally and then, like, have a motor fill.
• 2:35:33
  I also didn't want to go changing a rally.
• 2:35:35
  Like, didn't want to go changing a motor.
• 2:35:38
  Literally the night of the rally.
• 2:35:40
  Like before, the rally starts in a parking lot.
• 2:35:42
  But that seems like that's your specialty.
• 2:35:44
  Oh no, it is. That's the problem.
• 2:35:46
  And that's probably what's going to happen.
• 2:35:48
  Yeah. Oh, no, that's exactly what
• 2:35:50
  happened. So we, so I, I, you know, I
• 2:35:54
  leave the shop finally with the S13 on the trailer and I go out
• 2:35:59
  to meet them, you know on 80 or whatever.
• 2:36:03
  And I'm like, all right let's do this.
• 2:36:05
  We'll unload the 2:40, we'll get the Rs up on the trailer.
• 2:36:10
  We'll we'll go to your house and we'll load the S13 on and we'll
• 2:36:15
  we'll hit the road, right. I said, OK, we get to Alex's
• 2:36:22
  house and I, like, noticed me, I forgot.
• 2:36:26
  I go, oh shit, skid plates, not on the S13.
• 2:36:30
  Is that like a? Is that like a must?
• 2:36:33
  Can you like, make one? Like skid plates that you guys
• 2:36:36
  might put on like a drift car. Or. 8th inch, Eighth inch.
• 2:36:39
  Yeah, yeah, mine are quarter inch thick.
• 2:36:41
  Damn quarter. And they're 6061.
• 2:36:43
  Skillet. Yeah, they're 6061 like quarter
• 2:36:48
  inch thick. I start with a four by three,
• 2:36:51
  four foot by three foot plate. How do?
• 2:36:54
  You forget this bill. What are we doing, dude?
• 2:36:57
  Yeah, so I forgot that. So I I tell them, I tell Alex
• 2:37:02
  and Justin. I say, OK, go back to the shop,
• 2:37:04
  get the skid plate. We forgot some other stuff.
• 2:37:07
  They grabbed all that stuff. So they went from Alex's house
• 2:37:09
  back to the shop with the S13 on his trailer.
• 2:37:14
  Oh, and by the way, driving the S13 from where the motor blew to
• 2:37:18
  his house, we found out my car wouldn't go in fifth gear.
• 2:37:23
  You need for the gear. And I had a 490 in.
• 2:37:26
  It OK, we. I mean, Frankie and I had a 490
• 2:37:29
  in it. Good to assume.
• 2:37:30
  Like it? Was good up until the gearing
• 2:37:32
  came out. So yeah, so they we get it on
• 2:37:36
  the trailer, they go back to shop, get the skid plate and
• 2:37:37
  everything. I leave Alex's house and start
• 2:37:40
  making phone calls. Who's got a motor?
• 2:37:41
  Right, So. Dude, we're boys because that's.
• 2:37:46
  Yeah. I'm over here.
• 2:37:48
  I would, I would start texting my friends and there you go.
• 2:37:51
  So I. Call one of my One of my buddies
• 2:37:53
  has got a Subaru shop that's like based in the town where the
• 2:37:56
  rally's at. So I call him immediately.
• 2:37:58
  I'm like, yo Brandon, different Brandon.
• 2:38:00
  I'm like yo Brandon, like yo, do you have a motor around?
• 2:38:05
  Like I need a motor for an Rs? And he's like.
• 2:38:08
  Now that's a actually, that's a pretty common motor.
• 2:38:10
  Yeah, I mean, it's like it came. It's.
• 2:38:12
  It's the one. Subaru MO, yeah.
• 2:38:14
  It came in all the foresters, it came in the legacies, it came in
• 2:38:17
  two point. Five.
• 2:38:18
  Good. We got one looking good here.
• 2:38:20
  Yeah. So I'm like, there's a chance,
• 2:38:22
  right? So I'm like, he's the guy to
• 2:38:23
  call, right? So I call him and he's like, I
• 2:38:28
  don't think I have anything for you, but one of his mechanics
• 2:38:31
  heard him like, talking to me on the phone.
• 2:38:33
  Yeah, like, his mechanic's like 2 room and he's like wait wait
• 2:38:36
  wait wait. What?
• 2:38:37
  What? Who needs a motor?
• 2:38:38
  And he's like, Billy needs a motor and he's like, oh dude,
• 2:38:41
  you can have the motor out of my legacy like your daily.
• 2:38:46
  He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
• 2:38:48
  Like I'll I'll have it out by the time you get here.
• 2:38:50
  What the fuck? I'll just walk to work tomorrow.
• 2:38:53
  He's like, I'll have it out by the time you get here.
• 2:38:55
  I'll leave it out front on a tire.
• 2:38:56
  And I was like, OK, sweet. Like, that's awesome.
• 2:39:01
  But can I borrow your engine hoist too?
• 2:39:05
  What do you? Think this is a one stop shop
• 2:39:06
  in? Your parking lot.
• 2:39:07
  So he's like, he's like, Oh yeah, cool, whatever.
• 2:39:09
  I'll leave the engine hoist out for you too, right?
• 2:39:12
  So they're like, I get out there, It's like, I don't know,
• 2:39:14
  10:00 at night, right? By the time I get out to the
• 2:39:17
  rally, it's dark. I go to their shop, I pick up
• 2:39:20
  the motor, like with another one of my crew guys that met us at
• 2:39:22
  the rally. We just, like, put the thing
• 2:39:25
  like, on the trailer. I unloaded the Rs in the parking
• 2:39:28
  lot at the hotel. We throw the engine hoist on the
• 2:39:31
  trailer. We throw the engine on the
• 2:39:33
  trailer. Don't even strap anything down,
• 2:39:35
  Drive it back to town. Didn't have anything fall off.
• 2:39:38
  Sick. Got there, pushed everything off
• 2:39:42
  the fucking trailer. Parked the trailer and got right
• 2:39:44
  into the motor swap we finished at 5:00 AM and because it it
• 2:39:49
  took so long because the Legacy and the Impreza have different
• 2:39:52
  timing gears. So I had to swap the timing
• 2:39:55
  gears. Like I basically had to take the
• 2:39:57
  whole fucking front. End of the motor.
• 2:39:59
  Yeah, I was like, wait a minute, the water pumps were different
• 2:40:01
  too. So you got to.
• 2:40:02
  Take until that happened. Oh my God.
• 2:40:04
  Right. So the water pumps were
• 2:40:05
  different. The fucking timing gears, which
• 2:40:07
  I knew were different. So I knew I already anticipated
• 2:40:09
  that. But like, I had to take
• 2:40:11
  everything apart. And then I found like, OK, well,
• 2:40:13
  you know, just got like, you know old intake manifold gaskets
• 2:40:16
  and it's got this and it's got and I went through the whole
• 2:40:18
  fucking thing and I just. Changed the intake manifold
• 2:40:21
  gasket. Oh yeah, yeah, we had to change.
• 2:40:23
  We 'cause I think the the upper neck, the water neck that goes
• 2:40:27
  onto the intake manifold, I think was different too.
• 2:40:29
  You know what would piss me off? So we had to change that then
• 2:40:32
  too. So it it was dreadful.
• 2:40:34
  It was like we literally finished at like 5:00 or 5:30 in
• 2:40:37
  the morning and then we had to be at the rally to start at like
• 2:40:40
  9:00. That's you doing your due
• 2:40:42
  diligence, doing something like that, changing like a intake
• 2:40:44
  manifold gasket or like you're like, Oh yeah, I noticed that
• 2:40:48
  the water neck's leaking. Let me change the gasket there.
• 2:40:51
  Yeah, like to me it was more important for like the rally
• 2:40:53
  rental people to, like, get through the rally.
• 2:40:56
  Without a problem. Because you made.
• 2:40:58
  You made a commitment and you're going to honor it, which is
• 2:41:01
  great. You got big balls and big chef.
• 2:41:06
  But. But The thing is is like.
• 2:41:12
  Fuck, what the hell was? That there it goes.
• 2:41:14
  Balls. Balls.
• 2:41:18
  It's because I had the fucking. So.
• 2:41:20
  Fly out your head. Right now.
• 2:41:25
  Goes laughing too. Shit went right.
• 2:41:27
  Now he just. Went like, yeah, but yeah, and
• 2:41:32
  then. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:41:34
  It just gone. I fucking.
• 2:41:38
  Now, now, are you going to tell me you won?
• 2:41:41
  So around now. This is where things get real
• 2:41:43
  interesting. OK, so this was just the precur.
• 2:41:46
  This was just getting to the rally and having you hadn't.
• 2:41:49
  Done the race. No, this isn't even the race.
• 2:41:52
  This is just getting to the start of the race.
• 2:41:54
  So the S 13 minus the whole 5th gear problem is fine.
• 2:41:58
  Has been great, right? Sr. has been fine.
• 2:42:01
  Everything's everything's been great.
• 2:42:03
  Right. I totally just forgot that it
• 2:42:05
  was an Sr. car. Yeah.
• 2:42:06
  Oh, it's an Sr. car. I'm over here.
• 2:42:08
  I'm. Like rallying an Sr.
• 2:42:09
  Rally and it's. Probably a kid.
• 2:42:12
  No, but at the time. Yeah.
• 2:42:13
  No. Probably best solution you could
• 2:42:15
  ever. Have yeah.
• 2:42:16
  I mean you know there was you could go with AVQ, but they're
• 2:42:19
  too big too heavy too tall too just everything And like I was
• 2:42:23
  just like and actually the weight balance, once you put an
• 2:42:24
  Sr. in and take AKA out, they're just it's the perfect car.
• 2:42:30
  It is the perfect real. Drive car.
• 2:42:32
  It's the perfect real drive car. When that car is good, it's
• 2:42:35
  fantastic. That's an international rally.
• 2:42:37
  Car. Driver anyways, So, so yeah, we
• 2:42:41
  get the motor done. Rally rental's good, those
• 2:42:44
  dudes, They make it through the rally without a problem.
• 2:42:48
  The whole rally? Fuck.
• 2:42:50
  Yeah. Right.
• 2:42:50
  They finished their first rally right, which was the goal right?
• 2:42:54
  No, hold on. I remember what I was going to
• 2:42:55
  say. Cool it was.
• 2:42:57
  You know it would suck and annoy me is when you're doing your due
• 2:43:00
  diligence like that and you're changing things like intake
• 2:43:02
  manifold gasket, water neck gasket that something would
• 2:43:06
  break. Like a bolt.
• 2:43:08
  In the process of you doing that and possibly right then and
• 2:43:13
  there, yeah. Bye, Carl.
• 2:43:15
  Oh. God, I mean if.
• 2:43:16
  You I'm If you pull those water necks off the top.
• 2:43:20
  That's those bolts. Those bolts are so thin.
• 2:43:22
  Yeah, they're like. Long and thin.
• 2:43:25
  Yeah, they just see them. There, that's that's why I was
• 2:43:27
  like, damn, you're crazy for that.
• 2:43:29
  Yeah, I was like, let's try this.
• 2:43:31
  Whatever. Let's see.
• 2:43:32
  My God, you're nuts for that. So anyway, anyway, yeah, sorry,
• 2:43:35
  I got it though. We got it.
• 2:43:36
  They got through the rally. That was the main goal of the
• 2:43:38
  weekend. So then my, my, my Co driver at
• 2:43:43
  the time, this was the first time he was going to Co drive
• 2:43:46
  for me, right? OK, he was a Jalopnik editor.
• 2:43:49
  OK. OK, you can actually go read
• 2:43:53
  this article on Jalopnik. His view of this this whole
• 2:43:57
  weekend, which was insane. So he had never like, not that
• 2:44:03
  he had never Co driven before, but he had never Co driven for
• 2:44:05
  like a real like full rally, like a national rally like that.
• 2:44:09
  And so it was his first time doing like national level Co
• 2:44:12
  driving. It was the first time he was
• 2:44:15
  doing it in a rear wheel drive car.
• 2:44:16
  He'd only done in a front wheel drive car before, definitely not
• 2:44:19
  a turbo car. And then he, I don't know there,
• 2:44:24
  we'll get into a list of firsts for him as we go along with
• 2:44:29
  this. So, so yeah, we go to the first
• 2:44:32
  stage and on our way to the first stage, you know, we don't
• 2:44:36
  have our gear on. Like we just have our suits on.
• 2:44:37
  We don't have our helmets on anything in in the car.
• 2:44:40
  We have an intercom that we can communicate between the helmets
• 2:44:43
  or whatever. So we get to the first stage,
• 2:44:46
  and as we suit up, you know, you always check, especially at the
• 2:44:49
  beginning of the rally. You check out, you know,
• 2:44:51
  Intercom's working, Mike's working.
• 2:44:53
  All right, cool. Yeah, let's go.
• 2:44:56
  Oh my God. Dude, I couldn't hear him.
• 2:45:02
  He could hear me. I could not hear him, and he
• 2:45:06
  could hear himself in his. Helmet Whose fault I?
• 2:45:08
  Couldn't hear him, so my cable, my adapter cable fucking went
• 2:45:12
  bad, right? Oh my God.
• 2:45:15
  And like we thought, OK, well can we swap helmets?
• 2:45:17
  Can we do this? And then OK, right away to the
• 2:45:19
  solution. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 2:45:21
  What can we? Do to fix this right?
• 2:45:23
  And no, we couldn't. How?
• 2:45:25
  Crazy. Is this going to?
• 2:45:27
  Get so we start the first stage which is a very note intensive
• 2:45:33
  like pace note intensive stage. It's in a old like waste
• 2:45:38
  management, like garbage dump, you know, like open pit coal
• 2:45:42
  mine that they're basically filling.
• 2:45:44
  And these are this, you know, stages around all these, you
• 2:45:48
  know, their their access roads and everything else.
• 2:45:50
  So there's like there's turns like every freaking 100 feet,
• 2:45:54
  you know, super, like intensive, right.
• 2:45:57
  So very technical. So we're just like, all right,
• 2:46:01
  well bro, you're going to have to scream and you're going to
• 2:46:05
  have to give me numbers. Right.
• 2:46:08
  So like our our Rally Co driving the way that I code.
• 2:46:12
  Drivers. Left many different like levels
• 2:46:15
  of, you know, the language or whatever, but it's basically
• 2:46:18
  like one to six. So six is like flat out straight
• 2:46:22
  one is a hairpin, right? That's how we call our stuff.
• 2:46:24
  It could be flipped the other way around.
• 2:46:25
  If you're in Ireland, you know a three is not a 3, it's a tree.
• 2:46:29
  You know if you're Irish and then you.
• 2:46:32
  Don't want to hit any trees. You know they say 123.
• 2:46:35
  You know, yeah. Yeah, that's a terrible Irish
• 2:46:37
  accent. It wasn't that all that was.
• 2:46:39
  Anyways, that sounded Chinese, yeah.
• 2:46:41
  Pretty, yeah. Pretty much, I don't know.
• 2:46:43
  What the hell that was. Terrible.
• 2:46:45
  Anyways, but yeah, so six is flat out.
• 2:46:49
  One is like a hairpin. So I'm like, all right, just
• 2:46:51
  give me numbers, right? Like 6 or like?
• 2:46:54
  And he's got to show them to you now.
• 2:46:55
  Yeah, now he's got to put them out in front of me while he's
• 2:46:58
  holding a book. Fantastic, you know?
• 2:47:00
  And trying to tell me and yell at me what the Hell's going on,
• 2:47:03
  So whatever we get through to stage.
• 2:47:04
  The fact that he has to use two hands.
• 2:47:06
  And he's and he's like you know for like stuff that like I
• 2:47:08
  wanted me to slow down I'm like 2 hands all 10 digits out
• 2:47:13
  telling. You.
• 2:47:14
  I don't know. I would have been like none.
• 2:47:16
  So I'm driving and I'm watching his hands at the same time,
• 2:47:22
  right? So we get through the whole
• 2:47:24
  stage, yelling, screaming, the whole 9.
• 2:47:27
  Did it work? Yeah, we got through good.
• 2:47:28
  All right. We had a good time, but it's a
• 2:47:32
  great time we're coming up to. We're coming up to the good time
• 2:47:35
  as like, you know, compared to the other racers and stuff in
• 2:47:38
  our class, car was low on boost right right off the bat.
• 2:47:44
  Like the car didn't have boost. Oh, and by the way, my 5th gear
• 2:47:46
  came back on the Transit from like where we have like our like
• 2:47:52
  sort of ceremonial start to the first stage.
• 2:47:54
  My 5th gear came back Miraculous.
• 2:47:56
  So. I'm like, sick.
• 2:47:57
  Car's great, got fifth gear, whatever, right?
• 2:48:00
  So OK, it's got a little boost. Leak, no big deal.
• 2:48:02
  Intercom adapter. I got another one at service.
• 2:48:04
  Whatever. I keep forgetting the S13.
• 2:48:06
  Right S13, but before the stage is done, I threw another thing
• 2:48:13
  in the loop. The car was on fire.
• 2:48:15
  What? When?
• 2:48:19
  About a mile or so from the end of the stage on a 10 mile stage.
• 2:48:24
  So would you do like you took care of it driving?
• 2:48:26
  Yeah, OK. Yep.
• 2:48:28
  That was just take care of it. If your car is on fire, keep
• 2:48:31
  driving, don't stop. It will light up and go up fast.
• 2:48:34
  If you stop, keep moving, especially if it's brakes.
• 2:48:38
  If your brakes are on fire, get moving ASAP so.
• 2:48:43
  Damn, every time we every time I've seen a fire at any drift
• 2:48:47
  event, everyone stop. Immediately.
• 2:48:50
  Life ends. Yeah.
• 2:48:51
  Like, yeah. Oh my God.
• 2:48:52
  Somebody's on fire. No.
• 2:48:54
  Keep driving. Try to get that shit out.
• 2:48:56
  Find a water hole. Go splash that shit.
• 2:48:58
  Like go do something to make that thing go.
• 2:49:01
  Out only one water pit. Yeah, you're.
• 2:49:04
  Right, unless you front. Course.
• 2:49:05
  Unless it's spring moves and there's the Big Lake in the
• 2:49:08
  middle of the thing, let me know.
• 2:49:10
  Let me tell you how I found that once.
• 2:49:12
  Spring moves, you just flying right through the middle, right
• 2:49:15
  through the infield, and you're safe.
• 2:49:16
  Oh yeah. Wow.
• 2:49:17
  So anyway, so the car's on fire. This dude's never been in a car
• 2:49:21
  on fire. Before right.
• 2:49:23
  Where's the fire? So there's the there's another
• 2:49:24
  first RAM in the engine Bay, so I don't, I don't know where it
• 2:49:29
  is. I don't know what's on fire, but
• 2:49:31
  I know the car's on fire and know what's running.
• 2:49:32
  You drive for a mile. Oh my God.
• 2:49:34
  Well, we just got to keep going flat out and when we get to the
• 2:49:37
  end of the stage, we'll deal with it there.
• 2:49:39
  So you know, we're pulling up. There's like a flying finish.
• 2:49:43
  There's a spot where, like they they hit the stopwatch as you're
• 2:49:46
  flying through at full speed. And then there's like a distance
• 2:49:48
  from there to like the checkpoint where you hand them
• 2:49:51
  your timecard, but you have to stop.
• 2:49:54
  So the car's on fire and I'm like, I don't want to stop, but
• 2:49:58
  OK, so then you got to use, you know, if you got to stop and the
• 2:50:01
  car's on fire, then you got to use a fire extinguisher.
• 2:50:03
  Just a quick little spritz though.
• 2:50:06
  Depending on how bad the fire is, if it's an oil fire, what
• 2:50:08
  wasn't? What was the fire cause the
• 2:50:10
  fire? So, So I say to him, I say, All
• 2:50:13
  right, look, I'm gonna stop real quick.
• 2:50:17
  You're gonna jump out. I said unlatch the fire
• 2:50:19
  extinguisher right now and put it in my lap.
• 2:50:22
  I'll drop you off for the time card.
• 2:50:25
  I'll pull up here and put the fire out.
• 2:50:27
  I'll come and he's like panicking like he's like, Oh my
• 2:50:30
  God, oh, got to get the fire extinguishers, which I
• 2:50:33
  understand he's never been in a. Car.
• 2:50:34
  Does he have an accent? I get it.
• 2:50:35
  Would be great. No, no.
• 2:50:36
  He's an American dude. God damn it.
• 2:50:37
  That's. What I'm picturing he's like a
• 2:50:39
  foreign person in the in the in the passenger seat.
• 2:50:41
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 2:50:42
  No. You watch too much WRC.
• 2:50:44
  The only non, yeah, the only non American Co driver I've ever had
• 2:50:49
  has been an Irish guy. So that's always interesting.
• 2:50:52
  I love, I love Irish guys not be able Irish guys that passenger
• 2:50:55
  seat are great. Lifted the potato.
• 2:50:59
  That's how they talk, bro. But so anyways, I pull up, I put
• 2:51:04
  the fire out. You know, I had like a little
• 2:51:06
  hood vent to sort of like cool off my turbo, like air, you
• 2:51:10
  know, like a like a hood scoop that I put in my my car.
• 2:51:13
  So I just literally just shot the fire extinguisher through
• 2:51:16
  there. I didn't know what the hell was
• 2:51:18
  the fire. When I was hit.
• 2:51:19
  You did not. I did that to start right.
• 2:51:21
  So I lifted the hood. Put it out, the stupid breather
• 2:51:25
  hose. That's right.
• 2:51:26
  I knew that was gonna be it. I knew that was gonna be it.
• 2:51:28
  I know. You did?
• 2:51:29
  Yeah. I.
• 2:51:29
  Did 'cause mine lit on fire too? Yeah.
• 2:51:31
  Fucking breather. Hose lit up.
• 2:51:33
  And the thing, you know, 'cause it's a vacuum leak, the thing
• 2:51:35
  was running all like, weird, whatever.
• 2:51:37
  So technically that was the end of our rally.
• 2:51:39
  Like, we we actually DNFD like we did.
• 2:51:42
  We did not finish. Yeah, 'cause you're not supposed
• 2:51:44
  to. Like, like, you have to complete
• 2:51:46
  all the stages. So, like, we've put the fire out
• 2:51:49
  and I'm like, OK, well, like, I don't know, like, we're probably
• 2:51:52
  too late to get to the next stage at this point, you know,
• 2:51:54
  whatever. But I let it cool down.
• 2:51:57
  We drove to town, drove, drove the rally car, right, to Advance
• 2:52:00
  Auto Parts, bought a hose, wrapped it in gold foil, put it
• 2:52:04
  back together. That's what I did.
• 2:52:05
  Whatever. Yeah.
• 2:52:06
  So the rest of the day there was only like two or three more
• 2:52:12
  stages. But like, technically, we we we
• 2:52:15
  didn't do them. So we we did not finish the
• 2:52:17
  rally right, right off the bat. So OK, cool.
• 2:52:22
  He's never DNF to rally, so we DNF to rally.
• 2:52:25
  So you know he's never dealt with an intercom not working.
• 2:52:28
  He's. Never dealt learning.
• 2:52:29
  He's never dealt with a car on fire and he's never DNF to
• 2:52:32
  rally. I did that all.
• 2:52:33
  You're looking you're a big glass, half full.
• 2:52:35
  Guy. Yeah, I'd be punching the
• 2:52:37
  fucking air. I'd be like what?
• 2:52:39
  The hell are we? Doing.
• 2:52:40
  Oh my God. Cool.
• 2:52:41
  Like, tomorrow's the better stages.
• 2:52:42
  Anyway, we're like, actually out in the forest.
• 2:52:44
  OK, so I'm like, all right, cool.
• 2:52:46
  Whatever. Like we'll.
• 2:52:47
  Make it up. We'll chill tonight.
• 2:52:49
  No big deal. Later that night.
• 2:52:50
  Stage 4 was supposed to be at, like, the fairgrounds.
• 2:52:52
  Like where all these people come, you know, like everybody
• 2:52:54
  can come and spectate. You pay like 5 bucks.
• 2:52:56
  They're like, get it in and you can watch the whole people,
• 2:52:58
  like, you know, race around the course, basically.
• 2:53:00
  Well, we had a freaking tornado warning and like, literally had
• 2:53:05
  a tornado roll through. So they canceled the stage and
• 2:53:08
  like, made everybody go to like, you know, like like a secure
• 2:53:11
  spot of like, like a shelter. Probably a party in there.
• 2:53:14
  Though Oh yeah. Yeah, honestly, probably was a
• 2:53:17
  bunch of hyped up racing. People.
• 2:53:19
  In one secured location. Yeah, yeah, So.
• 2:53:22
  Anyway, so that was like the end of day one.
• 2:53:24
  So we start day two and we get through stage two.
• 2:53:29
  Like the first stage of the day, we get through the stage,
• 2:53:31
  everything's great. Car's still low on boost.
• 2:53:33
  Whatever. We get to the next stage
• 2:53:36
  spectator area. I roll the car.
• 2:53:38
  Wait, what? First time I roll, First time I
• 2:53:40
  rolled the car. Ever.
• 2:53:42
  Yeah, first time I ever rolled that car.
• 2:53:44
  I rolled it at a spectator area with hundreds of people.
• 2:53:47
  Dude, you. Would probably fucking look
• 2:53:49
  badass. Oh, dude, yeah.
• 2:53:50
  No. There's footage of it.
• 2:53:53
  I have multiple. Oh yeah.
• 2:53:55
  So he's never rolled the car, so I gave him his first roll right
• 2:53:58
  off the bat. He's probably like, what the
• 2:53:59
  fuck? Did I sign up for stage 2?
• 2:54:01
  Guy's trying to. Fucking kill me stage.
• 2:54:03
  Two of the day give him his first roll we rolled, landed on
• 2:54:09
  the on the, on on the on the wheels, but we landed on like a
• 2:54:12
  log that was like in some high grass.
• 2:54:15
  So I'm trying to get off it so like can't get off it.
• 2:54:17
  Bunch of spectators come out. Help you get off that, yeah.
• 2:54:21
  Like they can do whatever. It's in the.
• 2:54:22
  Room. But you can get out too and try
• 2:54:24
  to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:54:25
  Like, you know, but it was like there was nothing I was going to
• 2:54:28
  do by myself. So I was just like keeping the
• 2:54:30
  horn, getting people to come over and like just doing this
• 2:54:32
  like out the window, like every so bunch of people.
• 2:54:34
  Crazy. Waivers.
• 2:54:38
  Don't get out the fucking car. Multiple fucking page waivers.
• 2:54:41
  Well, that's just for us, the spectators.
• 2:54:43
  It's free to go spectate. You're just out in the woods,
• 2:54:45
  they. Don't sign a waiver.
• 2:54:46
  No. Wow.
• 2:54:48
  Why so anyways? Don't get out the car.
• 2:54:51
  Don't. Put your hands outside of the
• 2:54:52
  vehicle. Don't.
• 2:54:53
  Fucking take pictures. Don't fucking breathe.
• 2:54:56
  Yeah, No. So none of that.
• 2:54:58
  So none of that. I don't know.
• 2:54:59
  Probably 10 or 15 people pull us off this log.
• 2:55:02
  They you know that I got to go backwards, right?
• 2:55:04
  But now the way that like they pulled me off the log, I'm and
• 2:55:07
  I'm facing oncoming rally traffic, right?
• 2:55:10
  So you had a no mercy river? And there was like a room there
• 2:55:12
  for me to like, you know, turn around.
• 2:55:13
  But like, so like everybody, you know, everybody gets me off the
• 2:55:16
  log and like, cool, the car's moving, doors close.
• 2:55:19
  And I'm like, all right, let's go.
• 2:55:21
  Like I'm going to go straight and pull Handbrake and I'm going
• 2:55:23
  to spin this thing 180 and start going down the stage.
• 2:55:27
  Dude running away from the car falls right in front of the car
• 2:55:29
  and almost fucking hit him. That's what I mean with the
• 2:55:32
  waivers. You.
• 2:55:36
  I almost. Hit him.
• 2:55:36
  I almost run him over, right? So another dude literally grabs
• 2:55:40
  him like I stopped in time. I stopped in time, But like
• 2:55:43
  another dude comes and grabs him and just Yanks him out of the
• 2:55:46
  way. Oh my God.
• 2:55:47
  I shoot up, grab handbrake, spin the thing around, go down the
• 2:55:50
  stage and finish the stage. You know, whatever.
• 2:55:53
  OK, the only thing that happened, I blew out the two
• 2:55:55
  back windows. Somehow I rolled.
• 2:55:56
  It only blew out the back two windows.
• 2:55:58
  I still have the windows. I've rolled this.
• 2:56:00
  The glass, like, you know, like the corner glass.
• 2:56:03
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah dude, I still have the
• 2:56:05
  original rear windshield in this car and I've rolled it three
• 2:56:09
  times. That's impressive.
• 2:56:10
  I have no idea how that works. Nissan, yo.
• 2:56:13
  Maybe it's a testament to my cage building.
• 2:56:15
  Nah, well. Maybe.
• 2:56:16
  Well, Oh no, That was a legacy person.
• 2:56:20
  Or forester, whatever the one was where they went on vacation.
• 2:56:23
  What? The fuck are you talking about?
• 2:56:25
  Yeah, what are you talking? About there was that cage that
• 2:56:27
  got done in two days when the person went on vacation right
• 2:56:30
  beforehand or or was going on vacation.
• 2:56:34
  Whatever cage that was, I thought that was the cage that
• 2:56:36
  that would stand the roll over. I don't know.
• 2:56:39
  In Bill's career, there was somebody who built a cage right
• 2:56:43
  before they went on vacation. Am I fucking?
• 2:56:45
  Retarded or not, Oh oh oh oh Oh yeah, yeah.
• 2:56:48
  But you're talking about my fab guy with my rally rental?
• 2:56:49
  Car got it, you fucking idiot. Pay attention.
• 2:56:52
  Next. Time that in like whatever like
• 2:56:54
  12 days. This guy was in fucking La La
• 2:56:56
  land, but you're talking about that?
• 2:56:57
  Like a full rally cage, Like proper rally seat.
• 2:57:00
  Yeah, for the mountains, like, yeah, Yeah, for the rental.
• 2:57:03
  Like strut, top place. He didn't do this car.
• 2:57:05
  Fab. No, no.
• 2:57:07
  This page was done before I hired this other guy, so I one
• 2:57:11
  thing about me is like I'm a fabricator.
• 2:57:14
  When you want to be. I'm a fabricator, but I am
• 2:57:16
  terrible at welding so but I don't.
• 2:57:19
  I don't want this cage, though not terrible at welding.
• 2:57:22
  I don't want to say terrible at welding.
• 2:57:24
  I'm a fabricator, but I choose not to Weld route like roll
• 2:57:29
  cages. I will not Weld roll cages.
• 2:57:30
  I will give that to somebody who welds all day every day.
• 2:57:33
  That's not a me thing. I'll do things that are not
• 2:57:35
  structural, not life threatening, whatever.
• 2:57:37
  And I can do a pretty decent job of it considering I taught
• 2:57:40
  myself. But like I tell people every
• 2:57:42
  time, OK cool. Like if you want to rally you
• 2:57:45
  know A roll cage by me, I'll do your roll cage no problem.
• 2:57:48
  But like I'm not welding it no problem.
• 2:57:51
  Like I've got guys that can Weld like they do a fantastic job,
• 2:57:55
  you know? Give it to them.
• 2:57:57
  They Weld all day, every day in their day jobs.
• 2:57:59
  Or you know, they're doing exactly what I've been doing.
• 2:58:02
  I've had Miro work for me. I've got Joey or Curso Action
• 2:58:08
  Fab working for me right now doing cages.
• 2:58:11
  He actually got a a Ford Focus. We're putting a Cajun right now.
• 2:58:14
  But you know, I use people that Weld all the time and I I have
• 2:58:17
  no problem. No shame in telling anybody that
• 2:58:20
  I'm not a good welder. I've never been trained to be
• 2:58:22
  welded, you know. But.
• 2:58:23
  You did the one on the S13. No, no, no.
• 2:58:25
  One of my other guys did, but I all the cages are built in my
• 2:58:28
  direction. So it's like if something
• 2:58:30
  doesn't fit the way I want it, make a new tube.
• 2:58:33
  You know, whether I'm making the new tube or fab dudes making a
• 2:58:35
  tube, whatever, you know so, but but anyway, so back to the
• 2:58:42
  store. We get through the stage after
• 2:58:44
  the rollover, we go through the next stage, we get back to
• 2:58:48
  service. Everybody's freaking out.
• 2:58:49
  All my service crews freaking out because we rolled the car on
• 2:58:52
  top. Let's check everything.
• 2:58:54
  Let's make sure everything's good.
• 2:58:55
  She was probably mint. And like, this is partially my
• 2:58:58
  fault too, because, like, I wasn't paying attention.
• 2:59:01
  Like, I just, you know, I'm, I'm worried about what's going on
• 2:59:04
  with the rally rental. Like, is the rally rental good?
• 2:59:06
  Like, we get back to service, Is rally rental good?
• 2:59:08
  Is everything OK? Like, you know, whatever, Right.
• 2:59:11
  So I'm not paying attention. The Co driver again, first real
• 2:59:14
  rally, he's not really paying attention or knows what to do on
• 2:59:18
  a lengthy rally at that time. And we ended up basically
• 2:59:23
  leaving service and not putting fuel in the car.
• 2:59:26
  So we made it through one more stage and then ran out of gas as
• 2:59:29
  we pulled up to the second stage.
• 2:59:31
  But the second stage is delayed like the second stage of that
• 2:59:35
  loop is delayed right? Because of like, I don't know,
• 2:59:38
  like something, something within the stage spectators or like,
• 2:59:41
  they just didn't. Have some sort of unexpected
• 2:59:43
  miss. Yeah, they didn't have, like,
• 2:59:44
  enough volunteers there to, like work or something and close some
• 2:59:46
  of the roads or something. So there's like a little bit of
• 2:59:48
  delay. And I'm like, oh fuck, we just
• 2:59:52
  ran out of gas. And he's like, what?
• 2:59:54
  I'm like, yeah, we just ran out of gas.
• 2:59:56
  He's never run out of gas. Oh my.
• 2:59:57
  So I gave him another first. Perfect, right this.
• 3:00:00
  Guy's getting his stripes this trip.
• 3:00:02
  Dude, I looked to my left and I'm like, there's my recce car,
• 3:00:07
  there's like my other daily driver, right?
• 3:00:10
  So let me. Just ruin let.
• 3:00:11
  Me just ruin another one like an O 62.5.
• 3:00:14
  I right, and the windows are down.
• 3:00:18
  I'm like, that means my crew guys are here.
• 3:00:20
  It means that the keys are probably in the ignition and
• 3:00:24
  they're like here somewhere like to spectate, right?
• 3:00:27
  So I I, I've run over to the car.
• 3:00:29
  I jump out of the rally car, run over to the the car.
• 3:00:32
  I look in the ignition. Fucking keys are in the ignition
• 3:00:34
  with the windows down. I jump in the car.
• 3:00:36
  I run all the way back to service about 15 miles away.
• 3:00:40
  I grab gas cans. The gas cans are empty.
• 3:00:43
  They're not even filled. I run to a gas station 10 miles
• 3:00:47
  away from there and then come back and we missed.
• 3:00:52
  There's something called maximum lateness.
• 3:00:54
  So like the stage had started and everybody had gone, right?
• 3:00:58
  There's like from our start time, what would have been our
• 3:01:01
  start time for the stage? We have X amount of minutes.
• 3:01:03
  I don't know what it is. It's 15 minutes or 20 minutes or
• 3:01:06
  whatever it is. We have X amount of time to get
• 3:01:09
  started on the stage before we're considered DNF again.
• 3:01:15
  So sure. Shit, we missed maximum lateness
• 3:01:18
  by one minute. Oh my God, I literally missed.
• 3:01:21
  Now I'm pissed. Now I'm pissed, right?
• 3:01:23
  Because the gas cans, if they were filled like they should
• 3:01:25
  have been, I could have made it back in time, we could have
• 3:01:28
  gotten out whatever. So anyways, so I gave him his
• 3:01:32
  first time ever running out of fuel.
• 3:01:37
  So at that point we had to go back to service.
• 3:01:39
  I finally figured out in the spare time that we had waiting
• 3:01:43
  for the last leg of the rally, which was the last three stages
• 3:01:45
  of the rally. I finally had some time to sit
• 3:01:49
  there and try try to figure out why the hell the thing didn't
• 3:01:51
  have boost like full boost. So I figured it out.
• 3:01:54
  Fix the car. We go out for the last three
• 3:01:56
  stages and I win all three last stages and I set 2 new stage
• 3:02:00
  records on two out of the three. That was the anger fueling.
• 3:02:04
  You I was. Pissed, yeah.
• 3:02:05
  I was. Pissed.
• 3:02:06
  That's what that was. I was so pissed.
• 3:02:08
  But again, the got the dude had never won a stage.
• 3:02:10
  Did. That with no comms in the.
• 3:02:12
  In the Oh no, no no. I had, I had gotten the, the,
• 3:02:15
  the the my, my additional cord my spare cord.
• 3:02:19
  So we had, we had intercom. So you did end up at least
• 3:02:22
  winning? That, yeah, I mean, you know,
• 3:02:24
  that was at least some like reprieve.
• 3:02:25
  Like we we had, you know, such a tough rally all around, you
• 3:02:29
  know, even just getting to the rally with like the whole motor
• 3:02:31
  problem with the rally rental and everything else and
• 3:02:34
  shuffling trailers and everything.
• 3:02:37
  But like, we had gone through so much shit, that rally that like,
• 3:02:41
  it's kind of hard to forget every single thing that happened
• 3:02:44
  in that rally because every single thing was like a mountain
• 3:02:48
  to climb and get over. They won the last like leg of
• 3:02:51
  the route was the last. Yeah, the last Stace.
• 3:02:53
  All the fucking heartache, yeah. Yeah.
• 3:02:56
  So I I don't know if you heard the part where we ran out of gas
• 3:02:58
  and then I and then I checked I I ran for gas.
• 3:03:01
  I'm sorry, that was the longest piss I've ever taken.
• 3:03:02
  Oh dude. Yeah, me too.
• 3:03:03
  I'm like, where did that? Where did that story go?
• 3:03:05
  I'm literally. Yeah, they just, he missed it.
• 3:03:09
  He missed it by one minute when he was coming back with a gas.
• 3:03:11
  Yeah, so he was pissed. And then the last state wait is.
• 3:03:15
  That the last stage, the last stage.
• 3:03:16
  Stages, yeah. He basically set records and won
• 3:03:20
  all of them and I was like, that was the I.
• 3:03:22
  Was like. That was the anger feeling.
• 3:03:26
  I. Was mad, but that's that's
• 3:03:29
  probably my most memorable. But the The thing is, is like,
• 3:03:33
  I'm not the only rally team to have these incidents.
• 3:03:36
  Oh yeah, I think it's a common rally.
• 3:03:37
  Rally team has this happen to them at one point or another.
• 3:03:41
  And like any rally team, who tells you, Oh yeah, you know my
• 3:03:45
  my most memorable thing was when I won this.
• 3:03:48
  They're full of shit like I fucking.
• 3:03:51
  Love that actually. Thank you for saying.
• 3:03:53
  That the most memorable things are the hardest shit you go
• 3:03:57
  through. They're not the they're not the
• 3:03:58
  time where everything went perfectly right.
• 3:04:00
  You got, you know, good meal and sleep the night before.
• 3:04:03
  And you just. Nothing happened and you just
• 3:04:05
  fucking won, 'cause you went fast down the stage.
• 3:04:08
  Like, who cares? Like, I don't know.
• 3:04:10
  Like for me here, like, I think, like rally is more about the
• 3:04:15
  adventure than it is about like the competition, you know what I
• 3:04:20
  mean? And like, for me, like Rally's
• 3:04:23
  fun. Like, it's the most fun you can
• 3:04:25
  have in a car, especially rear wheel drive rally.
• 3:04:26
  It's the most fucking fun you can have in a car, right?
• 3:04:28
  It's like drifting, but like, you know, at fast speeds,
• 3:04:33
  fucking sideways. Like I'm drifting at 8090 miles
• 3:04:36
  an hour. Through the woods, Through the
• 3:04:38
  woods. Yeah, through the woods thing.
• 3:04:40
  Like, it's not just like I'm on a track and you know, OK, cool,
• 3:04:43
  I got a fast entry. Like, you know, like whatever.
• 3:04:46
  Like, you know, that's fun. But like, I don't know, doing it
• 3:04:52
  past trees and having spectators cheer you on and they get
• 3:04:55
  sprayed by gravel when you're fucking rear wheel drive and
• 3:04:58
  spraying that shit everywhere. They love that stuff, dude.
• 3:05:01
  They love that stuff, man. That's what they want.
• 3:05:03
  That's what they yeah, they they want that.
• 3:05:05
  Give me that fucking yeah, Pebbles and shit.
• 3:05:10
  You know. Rocking the shower.
• 3:05:11
  Yeah, but I mean. Where?
• 3:05:13
  Where can people find, like, let's say as a spectator,
• 3:05:16
  they're listening to this. They're getting horned the fuck
• 3:05:19
  up. They're trying to fucking get
• 3:05:20
  sprayed by your fucking mud. Hell yeah.
• 3:05:23
  Where can they find you? All right.
• 3:05:25
  So I mean. And other people.
• 3:05:26
  Find me or find like find. Rally.
• 3:05:29
  Where can they experience rally in the Northeast?
• 3:05:32
  Somebody asked that in the chat here.
• 3:05:34
  Got it. So rally.
• 3:05:35
  The easiest way to find rally in the US is there's two
• 3:05:38
  sanctioning bodies. It's NASA Rally sport.com.
• 3:05:43
  Basically the same NASA that runs like all the track stuff.
• 3:05:46
  They also sponsor US. Not the spaceships.
• 3:05:49
  They they also sponsored like US Drift and like you know Drift
• 3:05:52
  Indy and like all those Pro Am series, they're all technically
• 3:05:55
  under NASA insurance and sponsored by NASA or whatever.
• 3:05:58
  It's the same organization. We just have a different
• 3:06:01
  website. Instead of NASA Pro Racing, it's
• 3:06:03
  NASA Rally sport.com. So there's a there's a handful
• 3:06:07
  of rallies there. Most of them are on the East
• 3:06:10
  Coast. They're like more of like a
• 3:06:12
  grassroots level type of event. They're not like the pro stuff.
• 3:06:17
  If you want to go see Travis Pastrana Rally and the factory
• 3:06:20
  Subaru team and some of these, like WRC cars that have been
• 3:06:23
  imported over the last, you know, five years or so from from
• 3:06:26
  Europe and stuff, that's a American rallyassociation.org.
• 3:06:31
  The longest freaking. Web.
• 3:06:33
  Address ever. I wish they would just do ARA
• 3:06:37
  Rally, which is like their their Instagram, but that's basically
• 3:06:42
  what they're known as like ARA, but the long, you know that.
• 3:06:46
  But yeah, if you go to the schedule on any one of those
• 3:06:48
  websites you can find a rally. Especially in ARA, you can find
• 3:06:52
  a rally in any one of. Yeah, I'm trying any region of
• 3:06:54
  the area one of. Those out.
• 3:06:56
  Sick. What the fuck?
• 3:06:57
  Yeah, so do. You have anything that you
• 3:06:58
  wanted to end off on? Oh God, I don't know.
• 3:07:04
  I mean. Hey sorry to my Co driver.
• 3:07:11
  Sorry to my Co drivers. I hate crashing cars for you.
• 3:07:17
  No, I mean I I don't know. I I think the the biggest thing
• 3:07:20
  and I see this with drifting. I see this with rally.
• 3:07:22
  You see this with like I don't know like any sort of
• 3:07:25
  competition. Like everybody thinks that their
• 3:07:27
  cars need to be prepped to the fucking nines.
• 3:07:33
  Don't give a shit. Go buy some shit box that's
• 3:07:37
  stock and fucking drive. It's the best thing you can do.
• 3:07:41
  Yeah, that's the advice we always give to.
• 3:07:43
  Driver mod, nonstop. And if you can, I mean drifting.
• 3:07:47
  It's always like real drive shit.
• 3:07:48
  But like any kind of racing, if you're doing any racing rally,
• 3:07:52
  Drifting, hill climb, Rd. racing, time attack, anything,
• 3:07:55
  get your ass in fucking any car you can.
• 3:07:57
  Front wheel drive, real drive, all-wheel drive, turbo, non
• 3:08:00
  turbo, fucking diesel hybrid. I don't give a shit what the
• 3:08:02
  fuck it is. It could be a minivan.
• 3:08:05
  Tesla. Tesla doesn't matter.
• 3:08:07
  Man, that's crazy. Tesla's actually are some of the
• 3:08:09
  fastest auto cross cars because their weight when it.
• 3:08:13
  Rains. When it rains, Tesla's rule they
• 3:08:17
  are the fastest thing because their weight.
• 3:08:19
  They won't, they won't skid like other like lighter cars will
• 3:08:22
  with the rain. They can actually like tread
• 3:08:24
  water, you know. But anyways, like drive anything
• 3:08:28
  and everything you can to get that driving experience and get
• 3:08:32
  that, get that seat experience, get that seat time.
• 3:08:34
  I mean even just driving like like dude, I tell people all the
• 3:08:38
  time, just driving my tow vehicle like towing, you get so
• 3:08:43
  much seat time that's amazing. Towing and it it all translates
• 3:08:47
  like racing. Racing is racing cars are cars.
• 3:08:50
  They all feel the same way. The only thing that changes is
• 3:08:52
  how they take off like like above 40 miles an hour.
• 3:08:56
  A front wheel drive car acts like a rear wheel drive car and
• 3:08:58
  a rear wheel drive car acts like an all-wheel drive car.
• 3:09:00
  They're all basically the same above a certain speed, like
• 3:09:04
  there's an advantage to all-wheel drive below that,
• 3:09:06
  yeah, you can corner, you can out corner things quicker.
• 3:09:08
  You can, you know, like there's more grip ultimately.
• 3:09:11
  But like they all have the same, it's physics.
• 3:09:14
  They all do the same thing. The thing that's contacting you
• 3:09:17
  with the road is the tires. Those are the only things that
• 3:09:19
  are contacting you with the road.
• 3:09:20
  So like, tires are everything, seat time is everything.
• 3:09:24
  Just go out and drive. Fantastic.
• 3:09:27
  And on that note. Sensational check out at Broken
• 3:09:31
  Motorsports. Yeah, there's a couple.
• 3:09:33
  But one word. We'll put everything in the show
• 3:09:35
  notes too, so you guys can see everything.
• 3:09:36
  Broken Motorsports is the shop leading tarmac.com is our online
• 3:09:39
  part store that's run by my wife.
• 3:09:40
  And then, William? William Petro Under Score Racing
• 3:09:44
  is my. I knew I knew what it was
• 3:09:48
  because on the questions it said am I going to make it there on
• 3:09:51
  time? You know, I was like.
• 3:09:53
  Did he just comment on his own? Question if I was going to make
• 3:09:55
  it here on time. It's like traffic everywhere.
• 3:09:57
  Thank you guys. Thank you.
• 3:09:58
  First of all, thank you so much for.
• 3:09:59
  Calling. Thanks for calling.
• 3:10:00
  For ass fucking drive. Thanks for boring.
• 3:10:02
  Ash Dr. Yeah, no problem. I didn't realize how far you
• 3:10:04
  were now, so. Two hours.
• 3:10:06
  Do you take 295? To two Pike.
• 3:10:09
  Like you drive through Belle Mauer.
• 3:10:10
  No, I take 206. What the fuck?
• 3:10:13
  Yeah, Two O 6, exit 7. OK.
• 3:10:16
  Turnpike. You know, like Fort Dix.
• 3:10:18
  Wait, yeah, dude, that's where up.
• 3:10:21
  Fuck. You weren't with us that day off
• 3:10:23
  roading. I sent you the picture.
• 3:10:24
  Yeah, yeah, we went off roading over there.
• 3:10:26
  Right, right by over there. And.
• 3:10:27
  We've been near there though before.
• 3:10:29
  We took Fuschetti out there. Yeah.
• 3:10:30
  It was a fun time. Yeah.
• 3:10:32
  I'm Duncan, man, closing us out. Thank you guys so much for
• 3:10:35
  listening. This has been faction after
• 3:10:37
  hours. We're going so far in this new
• 3:10:40
  studio. We're going to have some more
• 3:10:42
  stuff to do. Billy, thank you so much and
• 3:10:45
  good night. See you guys later.
• 3:10:47
  Peace. So we are.
• 3:10:54
  We are not informed about the rally world, are we?
• 3:10:56
  No whole new different I guess fan base.
• 3:11:01
  Yeah. You know, the whole thing is
• 3:11:03
  different. Yeah, it's really cool though.
• 3:11:05
  I mean that that's the rally world is like the coolest part
• 3:11:09
  of Motorsports, I would say, if it involves a car.
• 3:11:12
  Feel like when you're doing rally, you're there, you're
• 3:11:14
  there to win, like you're there to no win, but you're there to
• 3:11:18
  win for yourself, you know? Yeah, and also if you're a
• 3:11:21
  spectator there, you're you're there to die, I guess.
• 3:11:24
  I don't know what why else you were.
• 3:11:26
  There. You're just there to work for
• 3:11:27
  free, too, to steal my trans. I don't care.
• 3:11:31
  You always see those rally videos where like someone hits a
• 3:11:34
  tree, flies off like 30 feet into the fields, and then.
• 3:11:37
  Everyone runs over 20 people come, let's go, let's go.
• 3:11:40
  Yeah, I'll help you out like. Or they flip cars for people
• 3:11:44
  like go, go, go, just. Walking right onto a live live
• 3:11:49
  fucking Rd. course with cars coming through the woods at 90
• 3:11:52
  miles an hour. At the bottom of a jump.
• 3:11:54
  I'm good, but I'll go watch those people.
• 3:11:56
  Oh yeah, I would definitely watch them.
• 3:11:58
  I'll watch them on YouTube. Yeah, I'm going to go to one of
• 3:12:01
  those races. I don't know if I'm going to get
• 3:12:03
  sprayed with the rocks, but. Yeah, definitely got to wear
• 3:12:05
  some protection. I wonder if it's more.
• 3:12:07
  I probably shouldn't say this, but I was going to say I wonder
• 3:12:10
  if it's more fun to spectate than drifting, because I really
• 3:12:13
  don't like spectating. Drifting.
• 3:12:15
  But. Spectating, Drifting is.
• 3:12:18
  It's more fun when you're in the car.
• 3:12:20
  Yeah, that's right, rally. That's probably more fun when
• 3:12:22
  you're outside the car. I think it's.
• 3:12:24
  I think it's. Not more fun, but it's more
• 3:12:25
  entertaining. Yeah, you couldn't pay me to go
• 3:12:28
  in one of those cars as a passenger.
• 3:12:30
  I mean, they're pretty safe though.
• 3:12:32
  I'm good. They're safe.
• 3:12:33
  It doesn't matter. I'm going to shit myself and
• 3:12:35
  there's going to be shit all over the car.
• 3:12:37
  So and then we're going to flip and there's going to be shit all
• 3:12:39
  over us. There's no point in me going in
• 3:12:41
  that. Anyway, thank you, Will, for
• 3:12:43
  coming by and having a having a blast with us for like 3 1/2
• 3:12:49
  hours. He can, first of all, he can
• 3:12:52
  talk. Yeah, I already knew that.
• 3:12:54
  Yeah. So I was like this is going to
• 3:12:55
  be a good. Podcast Good podcast guest.
• 3:12:58
  He's a good storyteller, too. Yeah, he is.
• 3:13:00
  And we have we. He's gonna have to come back
• 3:13:03
  like five times. Yeah, we we've barely scratched
• 3:13:06
  the surface of, yeah, what he's done.
• 3:13:08
  Yeah, but. And like he, we didn't even
• 3:13:10
  really talk about drifting that much.
• 3:13:12
  So yeah, there's a lot to talk about.
• 3:13:14
  He was there since Club Loose got started.
• 3:13:16
  Yeah, he's definitely way more passionate about rally, though.
• 3:13:18
  That's why he. He is, but I think he likes
• 3:13:21
  drifting. His roots are in drifting.
• 3:13:22
  Yeah, he seems to like drifting. Honestly, he seems to enjoy
• 3:13:26
  doing it more than rally, but that's the vibe I get.
• 3:13:32
  But yeah, I think, I think his heart is in the rally stuff, so
• 3:13:35
  and that's his business. He said he likes, he likes
• 3:13:37
  drifting because you're really just chilling with friends.
• 3:13:39
  Yeah, it's like easy. It's all about.
• 3:13:41
  Drifting's easier, man. You don't kind of like have a
• 3:13:43
  full race team and like all this stuff.
• 3:13:46
  Like, you don't have to have people come with you.
• 3:13:47
  And yeah, yeah, you just go. You don't.
• 3:13:49
  Need 7 trans on deck unless you're some people need 7 trans
• 3:13:54
  on. Yeah, Tom Nazaro.
• 3:13:56
  But it's crazy that they literally took transmissions out
• 3:14:00
  of spectators. This is what I mean.
• 3:14:02
  Who are these spectators? Like what?
• 3:14:03
  Are they? How are they getting home?
• 3:14:05
  Who are these psychopaths that go to these events?
• 3:14:07
  They're, they're they bleed. Rally man.
• 3:14:10
  Bleeding tarmac. Bleeding tarmac.
• 3:14:12
  That's that's Will's second business.
• 3:14:15
  Yeah. Parts retailer, Parts retailer.
• 3:14:17
  So do you need anything for your rally car or anything of that
• 3:14:19
  sort? Yeah.
• 3:14:21
  Check. leadingtarmac.com. Yep.
• 3:14:24
  OK, So what else is? Well, also check out Broken
• 3:14:28
  Motorsports if you're trying to get into rally racing or
• 3:14:31
  anything of the sort. And you're in Jersey.
• 3:14:33
  Yeah, check out Broken. Motorsports.
• 3:14:35
  They are now located in West Berlin.
• 3:14:37
  Yep. All right.
• 3:14:38
  So what do we have going on at the shop this week, Malcolm?
• 3:14:43
  This week we're still in the middle of moving offices, moving
• 3:14:47
  into the new space. You know, so we've been, we've
• 3:14:52
  been. It's annoying.
• 3:14:54
  In a in a It's quite of a a rut. Everyone's exhausted.
• 3:14:59
  Everyone says, oh, everything's happening so fast.
• 3:15:01
  It feels like it's going too by, so I.
• 3:15:03
  Know, dude, very slow. But it's been a month.
• 3:15:07
  I mean, it's been a month. We, I would say our office and
• 3:15:10
  the podcast studio are quote, UN quote done.
• 3:15:14
  They're not done, but they're like.
• 3:15:15
  They just need to be. Polished.
• 3:15:17
  Yeah, so that that's good. But waiting area, parts area,
• 3:15:23
  I'm going to start calling that the parts department because
• 3:15:25
  it's literally going to be a parts department.
• 3:15:26
  So. And we're big time now, babies.
• 3:15:29
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:15:30
  So that's the parts department that's not done yet.
• 3:15:33
  Parts storage area is not done yet, shops not done yet and car
• 3:15:38
  storage facilities not done yet. So we have a lot of work to do.
• 3:15:42
  Yeah. Lot of work to do, but we're not
• 3:15:45
  going to let that get us down. We're still moving forward.
• 3:15:48
  It's just the way everything has to happen needs to happen in
• 3:15:50
  certain, certain, you know, time frames.
• 3:15:53
  Like, yeah, this is just a big a big step for all of us.
• 3:15:56
  So it's a lot to deal with physically and emotionally, I
• 3:16:00
  guess. Definitely emotionally for me.
• 3:16:03
  But all right, what's going on? What's going on?
• 3:16:06
  Well, that that takes care of the shop expansion.
• 3:16:11
  It's still the slow season so if you guys need your cars worked
• 3:16:13
  on anything like that. I I have been getting hit up
• 3:16:15
  about random things and I think it's from the podcast like some
• 3:16:18
  people will be like hey can you install running boards on my
• 3:16:20
  Jeep? Yeah.
• 3:16:22
  And you said yeah. Yeah, it was a newer, A new car.
• 3:16:24
  I'm. Proud of you for that.
• 3:16:25
  I was like, OK. Chris is probably going to hate
• 3:16:28
  me when I have this car come in, but whatever.
• 3:16:31
  It sounds it sounds easy. Yeah.
• 3:16:33
  So if you guys have anything like that, any alignments, oil
• 3:16:36
  changes, suspension work, you know something that's not
• 3:16:40
  insane, let us know because we could really use that right now
• 3:16:43
  while we're in the slow season before we have all the added
• 3:16:47
  space. Once we have the added space
• 3:16:48
  then you can bring us to your, you know, full drift builds and
• 3:16:51
  this and that and we'll we can we can make more room for it and
• 3:16:54
  actually do long term projects. But right now we can't really
• 3:16:57
  take any long term projects on. So yeah, anything fast that we
• 3:17:02
  can do would be greatly appreciated.
• 3:17:04
  Tires as well, tires, alignments, all that stuff.
• 3:17:07
  Yes. I heard we got some new merch.
• 3:17:11
  Yes, we do have new merch. We call it the worldwide
• 3:17:14
  collection. We have black hoodies, black
• 3:17:19
  T-shirts and a new light Gray T-shirt that kind of looks like
• 3:17:23
  a, you know, a slate Gray color, I guess.
• 3:17:27
  But yes, they're pretty cool, very simple designs.
• 3:17:30
  Two color that's one color actually just white.
• 3:17:34
  Oh no. And black on the Gray shirt, so
• 3:17:36
  white or black. They're very nice.
• 3:17:40
  They are cheaper than our previous merch.
• 3:17:43
  That was a little bit more of intense design.
• 3:17:47
  So these ones are a little bit more affordable. 50 bucks for
• 3:17:50
  the sweatshirt, 25 bucks for the T-shirt.
• 3:17:52
  It's a nice shop tee. It's a nice daily tee.
• 3:17:55
  Yeah, and the hoodie. The hoodie was made using the
• 3:17:57
  same hoodie as the keep them rolling.
• 3:17:59
  Keep them rolling so they're very durable.
• 3:18:02
  They they age pretty well in my opinion.
• 3:18:04
  Yeah, I enjoy them. Yeah, they're definitely good,
• 3:18:08
  good quality stuff. We only honestly, we only sell
• 3:18:10
  good quality stuff. Parts and merch talk to them.
• 3:18:12
  So I mean, I'm not selling no bullshit over here like KBD
• 3:18:16
  anyway, so you know, check that stuff out.
• 3:18:20
  I like the design. It's different from what we
• 3:18:22
  usually do. I feel like we've been getting a
• 3:18:26
  lot of good feedback. Yeah, they definitely are not
• 3:18:29
  selling like our multi colored shirts.
• 3:18:33
  But, but once we get out to the to the event this summer, yeah,
• 3:18:37
  they'll be flying. I mean that that off white color
• 3:18:42
  light Gray people say. I call it.
• 3:18:44
  I call it Slate Gray. Yeah, I don't know what to call
• 3:18:46
  it. Yeah, slate Gray might be the
• 3:18:48
  one to Yeah, I like it. I like it's like a cement Gray
• 3:18:51
  almost. Yeah, I'm glad I decided to do
• 3:18:53
  that. I I was like, I guess we're
• 3:18:55
  doing that. I guess we're not doing all
• 3:18:56
  black. Yes, I like it.
• 3:18:58
  We'll try something different. So yeah, so check that out if
• 3:19:02
  you, I mean might as well bring it up now.
• 3:19:04
  If you're part of the Patreon $15.00 a month club, you're
• 3:19:07
  getting that shirt for free. Yeah.
• 3:19:09
  So that's what we do here. So if you if you're part of the
• 3:19:12
  Patreon and you're in the second tier which is $15.00 a month,
• 3:19:15
  you are getting free merch every time a new line drops.
• 3:19:19
  So just something to think about, take advantage of it and
• 3:19:23
  that $15 goes back to us and supports building the podcast in
• 3:19:26
  the YouTube and all that stuff that we do.
• 3:19:28
  So we we definitely appreciate that.
• 3:19:30
  Make sure you check out the Patreon and see what we got
• 3:19:32
  going on over there. We have new videos every week on
• 3:19:34
  the Patreon now, which is insane to me.
• 3:19:37
  But, and we're trying to get new videos every week on YouTube
• 3:19:40
  back again, so. Yep, we have a very motivated
• 3:19:43
  media guy working here now, so. Yes, shout out to Edward Belisa,
• 3:19:47
  Lisa. Yeah, that's a hard last name.
• 3:19:50
  It's BA, Lisa. Lisa.
• 3:19:52
  BA Belisa Lisa. Yeah, Like that, yes.
• 3:19:57
  Felisa squared. Yeah, that's a lot easier.
• 3:20:02
  What else? What else?
• 3:20:03
  I mean, we got a website. Yeah, factionmotorsports.com for
• 3:20:07
  all your part needs. I mean, we have a wide selection
• 3:20:12
  of parts, mainly Nissan. Yeah, I was gonna say JDM stuff.
• 3:20:17
  You said wide selection, I don't know if you should.
• 3:20:19
  Say wide selection for Nissan. Yeah, but yeah, check it out.
• 3:20:23
  We're. Getting better.
• 3:20:24
  We're getting better. Yes, and if you have any
• 3:20:26
  suggestions of parts that we should add to the website that
• 3:20:29
  you don't see, e-mail us. Someone sent me some Miata
• 3:20:33
  parts. That person needs to e-mail me
• 3:20:36
  them again because like I said to you, I already forgot all of
• 3:20:39
  them. So e-mail me all the parts that
• 3:20:41
  you guys want and we'll work on getting them on the website.
• 3:20:44
  Yes, I tried to e-mail a Miata manufacturer parts manufacturer
• 3:20:49
  and they never got back to me, so.
• 3:20:50
  So things are going good, all right.
• 3:20:53
  Yeah. But hopefully sometime this year
• 3:20:56
  we will have someone else working in the parts department,
• 3:20:59
  so. Yes, and their they'll their job
• 3:21:02
  will be to also try to expand the part selection on our
• 3:21:06
  website. Yeah, God, rest in peace to
• 3:21:09
  whoever does that job, because that job is going to suck well.
• 3:21:13
  Good luck. What else?
• 3:21:17
  Backed by populated demand? Not really.
• 3:21:19
  I don't know why I said that, but our our famous S13, that's
• 3:21:25
  our 20 swap throttle cable bracket.
• 3:21:28
  I mean, those are the most popular demanded part.
• 3:21:30
  Yeah. It's back in stock and we have
• 3:21:34
  100 of them in stock. So hopefully we never go out of
• 3:21:37
  stock again. Hopefully we do fast.
• 3:21:40
  Yeah. But once we hit 50, you got to
• 3:21:42
  ask for another restock. So we're going to just try to
• 3:21:44
  always keep them in stock. No more having them out of
• 3:21:46
  stock, but they are back. So hit, hit visit our website.
• 3:21:50
  We got them now. I know a lot of you have been
• 3:21:52
  waiting for a couple months. Yeah, that's been a long time
• 3:21:56
  coming, so. Yes, and also in hand we now
• 3:22:00
  have the Artek manifold stock. Here we have KA24V band turbo
• 3:22:06
  setup manifold, SR21J manifold, and that's about it.
• 3:22:12
  Different variations of each. But we have them, people.
• 3:22:16
  We got to throw up a Instagram post so we could probably come
• 3:22:19
  later today. We are we, yeah, we have all
• 3:22:21
  these in stock guys. So you know, I don't want to
• 3:22:23
  hear that. Oh, let me know when, let me
• 3:22:25
  know when it come in. Yeah, I'm a I'm a Swing by and
• 3:22:27
  get it. We got.
• 3:22:28
  It we already have this. So come here and buy them
• 3:22:31
  things. Happen OK.
• 3:22:32
  Please. We'll sell it out out the.
• 3:22:34
  Loading dock 'cause that's all we got right now.
• 3:22:36
  We don't have a parts department right now.
• 3:22:38
  Yeah, but yeah, and we got arrow as always.
• 3:22:41
  We got origin arrow here. Next origin container is
• 3:22:45
  arriving in. Early April, yeah.
• 3:22:47
  I want to say a month. Yeah, but a lot of it has been
• 3:22:51
  pre sold already. So shoot us an e-mail
• 3:22:54
  sales@fashionmotorsports.com maybe they'll have some extras
• 3:22:57
  of what you're looking for. But if she's.
• 3:22:59
  Our arrow already gone. Yeah, S14 zenke arrows are
• 3:23:03
  already gone, but the following container after this one will
• 3:23:09
  not be too long. So get your orders in so you can
• 3:23:13
  secure what you really want. Yeah, hopefully early summer,
• 3:23:15
  something like that. Definitely summer though.
• 3:23:17
  So yeah, you guys got to order that stuff, man.
• 3:23:20
  We can't, you can't just rely on us to buy $50,000 worth of stuff
• 3:23:24
  and you guys have to place those pre-orders so that you make sure
• 3:23:27
  you actually get the kit. So because they there's not
• 3:23:29
  enough room, Origin is in high demand and there's not enough
• 3:23:33
  space on the containers to actually bring enough in.
• 3:23:36
  Yes. So yeah, shit, those boxes are
• 3:23:39
  huge. Yeah, it's a it's a problem
• 3:23:41
  right now. I'm sure it's going to get
• 3:23:42
  resolved in the future, but if you want Origin Arrow, you got
• 3:23:45
  to order that immediately and you have to wait if it's not
• 3:23:47
  here. Because what people do is they
• 3:23:49
  wait and the container shows up and they wait one or two weeks
• 3:23:53
  and it's already gone, and then they end up waiting even longer.
• 3:23:57
  So it's it backfires. Yeah, never ending cycle.
• 3:24:00
  Yeah, Just put it on order and you'll be good to go.
• 3:24:03
  All right. I mean, I guess that's, that's
• 3:24:04
  pretty much all we got going on right now.
• 3:24:06
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:24:07
  So this is a great episode, a lot of stories.
• 3:24:11
  If you guys have any suggestions on guests that we can have.
• 3:24:14
  Come on, preferably someone local that will drive here and
• 3:24:18
  not, you know, somewhere. I have to drive across the
• 3:24:21
  country too. Let us know.
• 3:24:23
  Either send them a message and tell them to reach out or you
• 3:24:26
  guys can send us their info and we will reach out to them.
• 3:24:30
  Yes, as you can see, we don't mind having Rally racers on
• 3:24:36
  screen printers. You can have mechanics on, yeah,
• 3:24:40
  been in the biz. As long as there's some kind of,
• 3:24:43
  you know, I need, I need some kind of content.
• 3:24:45
  If it's if it seems like it's going to be a good conversation,
• 3:24:48
  then we'll probably say yes. So, yeah.
• 3:24:51
  All right. Lastly, thank you to every
• 3:24:53
  single one of you for listening to these podcasts.
• 3:24:55
  Means the world to us. Yeah.
• 3:24:56
  And please spread the word and leave us a review and check out
• 3:24:59
  our sponsors. It's I've already heard that a
• 3:25:01
  lot of people have been going to automotive specialty wraps.
• 3:25:03
  I do appreciate that. They've been letting us know
• 3:25:05
  that the the sponsorship is helping them, helping their
• 3:25:08
  business. You guys are helping small
• 3:25:10
  business businesses every time you do something like that.
• 3:25:12
  So thank you. Yes, and be on the lookout for
• 3:25:14
  the East Coast Rift School schedule the summers coming
• 3:25:17
  quicker than you think. So get those, get those track
• 3:25:19
  days in. All right.
• 3:25:21
  See you guys. Later.