Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 13 November
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Jesus the good reform it tonight. Well they've done it.
- 0:16Speaker 1: The Liberals finally have dumped the global warming target that's
- 0:20Speaker 1: been devastating our economy.
- 0:22Speaker 2: We're not pursuing.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Net zero zero was gone, but the sales job must
- 0:27Speaker 1: now begin. And already journalists were today attacking the opposition
- 0:31Speaker 1: leaders it should burned a Koran or something you won't believe,
- 0:36Speaker 1: but I'll show you lots on that tonight. Plus, Victoria's
- 0:39Speaker 1: labor government signs a treaty with the one percent of
- 0:41Speaker 1: Victorians who call themselves aborigines. I mean, who on earth
- 0:46Speaker 1: voted for this? Apata? How manny actually voted for the
- 0:48Speaker 1: averages A signed that treaty. But first, this was not
- 0:54Speaker 1: the week for the ABC to do today exactly what
- 0:58Speaker 1: it's been denying, selectively editing footage which makes Donald Trump
- 1:03Speaker 1: seem guilty of a crime now, in this case, sex
- 1:07Speaker 1: with an underaged girl. This is unbelievable. Today, the media
- 1:11Speaker 1: left jumped all over emails released in the United States
- 1:14Speaker 1: by the Democrats, saying they claim, aha, this suggests the
- 1:19Speaker 1: he US president knew about the conduct of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Knew that Epstein was pimping out underage girls through people
- 1:28Speaker 1: like Prince Andrew and had himself. Trump himself spent hours
- 1:34Speaker 1: with a girl at Epstein's house. Now, of course this
- 1:37Speaker 1: was all catnip for people who you know. I always
- 1:41Speaker 1: said there was something told you about Trump's relationship with
- 1:43Speaker 1: Epstein was later found dead in his jail cell before
- 1:46Speaker 1: he could blab. And now here are these emails which
- 1:49Speaker 1: damning right the ABC today This ABC America's editor John lyons, well,
- 1:57Speaker 1: he sure thought so, and note by the way her
- 2:02Speaker 1: Lions this morning failed to mention which underaged girl Trump
- 2:06Speaker 1: had allegedly spent hours with. According to the most stamming
- 2:11Speaker 1: of Epstein's emails.
- 2:13Speaker 3: He mentions the name of a particular victim and says
- 2:16Speaker 3: that she spent hours at my house with him with
- 2:21Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Now that's quite dramatic. It looks like all
- 2:25Speaker 3: the Epstein files will be released. And I think there
- 2:28Speaker 3: are some very nervous powerful people in the United States.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Now, Lions on the ABC, there isn't the only person
- 2:39Speaker 1: who curiously failed to mention which girl Trump allegedly was with.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Her name was also redacted from the email released by
- 2:46Speaker 1: the US Democrats in which Epstein tells girlfriend and procurer
- 2:53Speaker 1: Elaine Maxwell, I want you to realize that the dog
- 2:56Speaker 1: that hasn't barked is Trump. The victim name redacted spent
- 3:02Speaker 1: hours at my house with him. He has never once
- 3:04Speaker 1: been mentioned. Now it's actually been widely reported that the
- 3:09Speaker 1: redacted name was in fact Virginia Geoffrey, who was trafficked
- 3:14Speaker 1: out to Andrew the form of Prince, although he denies it.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Gioffrey tragedially killed herself this year and cannot be hurt anymore.
- 3:23Speaker 1: So why was her name suppressed by the Democrats and
- 3:27Speaker 1: by the ABC. Well, imagine you're a Trump hater. I
- 3:36Speaker 1: suspect you might want these emails that as much damage
- 3:39Speaker 1: as possible to him. So you wouldn't want people to
- 3:42Speaker 1: know that the girl was indeed Giuffrey, because in her
- 3:45Speaker 1: autobiography Nobody's Girl, she wrote at length about Trump, who
- 3:51Speaker 1: gave her a job at his mare Lago club, and
- 3:54Speaker 1: said Trump couldn't have been nicer to her, and that
- 4:00Speaker 1: this girl was indeed Geoffrey, must have been known to
- 4:04Speaker 1: Lyons because Trumps might have. Spokesman Caroline Livett made that
- 4:09Speaker 1: point strongly yesterday in defending Trump.
- 4:13Speaker 4: These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that
- 4:17Speaker 4: President Trump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has
- 4:20Speaker 4: always said is that he was from Palm Beach, and
- 4:23Speaker 4: so is Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at
- 4:26Speaker 4: mar A Lago until President Trump kicked him out because
- 4:30Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep.
- 4:33Speaker 4: And this email you refer to with the name of
- 4:35Speaker 4: a victim that was unredacted now and has since been
- 4:39Speaker 4: reported on in this room, So I will go ahead
- 4:41Speaker 4: and say it Virginia Guphrey. And it was CBS's own
- 4:44Speaker 4: reporting WIJA that recently wrote that missus Guphrey maintained, and
- 4:49Speaker 4: God rest her soul, that she maintained that there was
- 4:51Speaker 4: nothing inappropriate. She ever witnessed that President Trump was always
- 4:55Speaker 4: extremely professional and friendly to her. And so I think
- 4:58Speaker 4: it's a question worth asking the Democrat Party, and you
- 5:01Speaker 4: should all go ask them after this briefing of why
- 5:03Speaker 4: they chose to redact that name.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Now, Lyons and the ABC quoted from exactly that response,
- 5:11Speaker 1: have just played you from the White House. But but
- 5:15Speaker 1: here's the ABC shame. They actually cut out the last bit.
- 5:19Speaker 1: They cut it short. They emitted what seems exactly the
- 5:23Speaker 1: strongest part of Trump's defense were never named Geoffrey and
- 5:27Speaker 1: how the Democrats had suppressed their name and what should
- 5:30Speaker 1: actually said about Trump the ABC instead? End of those
- 5:35Speaker 1: comments I played at this.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Point, Jeffrey Epstein was a member at Mari a Lago
- 5:40Speaker 4: until President Trump kicked him out because Jeffrey Epstein was
- 5:44Speaker 4: a pedophile and he was a creep.
- 5:48Speaker 1: No mention of Geffrey. And let's not forget that Lyons
- 5:53Speaker 1: does have form as a Trump critic, to say the least.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Trump worked him out earlier this year when Lines trying
- 6:00Speaker 1: to line him up as corrupt the.
- 6:03Speaker 5: Appropriate president that a president in offers could be engaged
- 6:07Speaker 5: in so much business activity, Well, I'm really not.
- 6:10Speaker 1: My kids are running a president. Where are you from?
- 6:12Speaker 3: I'm from the Australian broadcasting of.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Rage and faul Corn and providing Australians.
- 6:16Speaker 6: You're hurding Australia right in my opinion, you are hurting
- 6:20Speaker 6: Australia very much right now.
- 6:22Speaker 1: That's true that the ABC in other reports is referred
- 6:25Speaker 1: to Joffree and quoted the relevant parts of that White
- 6:28Speaker 1: House response. But Lines report today on ABC Radio's Marquee
- 6:32Speaker 1: Current Affairs show that is a disgrace and to answer
- 6:36Speaker 1: the ABC's embarrassment. It's shoddy reporting of his Epstein emails
- 6:41Speaker 1: comes in the very week that ABC managing director Hugh
- 6:44Speaker 1: Marx is defending the ABC from claims that it also
- 6:49Speaker 1: selectively quoted a Trump's speech in the Four Corners takedown
- 6:52Speaker 1: of the President, a report by Sarah Ferguson today exactly
- 6:58Speaker 1: the same pattern quote that what acoincidence cut it in
- 7:04Speaker 1: a way that most hurts Trump? Will the ABC apologize?
- 7:09Speaker 1: Will pigs fly? But just one PostScript? I said the
- 7:15Speaker 1: Democrats released three emaus to spear Trump. I just showed
- 7:17Speaker 1: you these supposedly damning one, although I should add that, look,
- 7:21Speaker 1: it might actually be correct about Trump spending time with
- 7:24Speaker 1: a girl. I don't know. My problem here is really
- 7:28Speaker 1: with the one sided reporting the other two emails, though
- 7:31Speaker 1: they're even thinner. In one, Jeffrey Epstein writes to Michael
- 7:36Speaker 1: Wolfe has written books trashing Trump, that of course he
- 7:42Speaker 1: knew Trump knew about the girls as he asked Delaine
- 7:45Speaker 1: to stop. Even if this line pedophile Epstein was telling,
- 7:49Speaker 1: the truth is saying that Trump asks Elain Maxwell to
- 7:53Speaker 1: stop stop, presumably pimping out Epstein's girls and Maxwell herself
- 7:57Speaker 1: has sold investigators she witnessed nothing in appropriate by Trump.
- 8:02Speaker 1: But it was Wolfe's email to Epstein also release that
- 8:07Speaker 1: says it all about the way the media left will
- 8:10Speaker 1: do anything, collude with any creep, even with a pedophile,
- 8:14Speaker 1: to bring down Trump. This is so sick. Wolf writes
- 8:20Speaker 1: to Epstein in twenty sixteen. He remember he has written
- 8:24Speaker 1: all these books trashing Trump. That's his agenda. That's Michael
- 8:27Speaker 1: Wolf's agenda. He wrote to Epstein in twenty sixteen, after
- 8:32Speaker 1: Epstein had been jailed for procuring an underage girl for prostitution,
- 8:38Speaker 1: suggesting a way that Epstein could win sympathy by trashing Trump,
- 8:43Speaker 1: and I assume maybe by talking to Wolf. Trump writes
- 8:46Speaker 1: to Epstein, There's an opportunity to come forward this week
- 8:49Speaker 1: and talk about Trump in such a way that could
- 8:51Speaker 1: garner you great sympathy and help finish him interested. Wow,
- 9:00Speaker 1: going out of your way to help a pedophile polish
- 9:02Speaker 1: his image. That's an insight into the media left for you,
- 9:05Speaker 1: that dirty river that the ABC swims in. It seems
- 9:10Speaker 1: that nothing from crawling to a pedophile to doctoring or
- 9:14Speaker 1: suppressing or misleadingly editing quotes is too much as long
- 9:21Speaker 1: as Donald Trump gets it. But back to the liberals
- 9:28Speaker 1: big announcement today, the one I predicted yesterday, The Liberal.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Party will remove a net zero target from our policy.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Now there are three points I think to make about
- 9:39Speaker 1: this decision to scrap the target of cutting our emissions
- 9:42Speaker 1: to zero by twenty fifty, supposedly save us from global warming.
- 9:47Speaker 1: One is well promising to scrap it zero fantastic, right,
- 9:52Speaker 1: very damaging target net zero b twenty fifty. Second the
- 9:57Speaker 1: Liberals promising, though, to still cut emissions and deeper each year.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Less good. It's a compromise that still means more pain
- 10:07Speaker 1: for no gain. And how is it going to be done?
- 10:11Speaker 1: She didn't say really? And three the ludicrous attacks on
- 10:16Speaker 1: Susan Lee today by global warming zealots in the press
- 10:19Speaker 1: pack shows how hard it will be to sell this
- 10:22Speaker 1: to the public. Given this media malice. How you get
- 10:25Speaker 1: through your message through it? It's like Lee had blasphemed
- 10:31Speaker 1: spat on oolaru. Some questions were simply absurd from journals
- 10:38Speaker 1: so indoctrinated in the global warming cult as to think
- 10:41Speaker 1: that little Australia can change the climate. Although I've got
- 10:45Speaker 1: to give a credit, Lee was okay in standing up
- 10:48Speaker 1: to this utter nonsense.
- 10:50Speaker 7: So in the coming years, when Australians are counting the
- 10:53Speaker 7: cost of fires and floods and other natural disasters, is
- 10:57Speaker 7: your response going to be to them, don't worry, we
- 11:00Speaker 7: just did our share. Your also a grandmother, are you
- 11:04Speaker 7: concerned about the type of planet that your grandchildren are
- 11:06Speaker 7: going to inherit? And as this something that you talk
- 11:09Speaker 7: about with your family, Yes.
- 11:10Speaker 2: I am, and I think of my six grandchildren aged
- 11:14Speaker 2: under six every day and I know that it is
- 11:18Speaker 2: vital that they have a better world to inherit. But
- 11:21Speaker 2: I look at the world that they're set to inherit
- 11:23Speaker 2: if the policies of this Labor government continue, and if
- 11:25Speaker 2: we do want to talk about climate change, the climate
- 11:28Speaker 2: change policies of Labor are failing. They are completely failing.
- 11:32Speaker 2: The other thing that I want to be able to
- 11:34Speaker 2: say to my grandchildren is that you should inherit a
- 11:37Speaker 2: better standard of living than my generation and your mum
- 11:41Speaker 2: and dad's generation. Right now, they are set to inherit
- 11:44Speaker 2: the worst standard of living since the Second World War.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Now, the good in today's announcements, not just the liberals,
- 11:52Speaker 1: will scrap the Nitzero targets for twenty fifty. It will
- 11:56Speaker 1: scrap all targets like the twenty thirty one as well.
- 11:58Speaker 1: It will cut government schemes that force companies to slash
- 12:01Speaker 1: emissions at huge cost, schemes to make us buy expensive
- 12:06Speaker 1: electric cars. It'll slash the kind of things that Labor
- 12:09Speaker 1: has done that's punishing Australians. And Lee made the point
- 12:13Speaker 1: that cutting missions is fine. If we get to net
- 12:15Speaker 1: zero at some stage in a sane way, that's great,
- 12:19Speaker 1: but cut power prices first.
- 12:23Speaker 2: The affordable energy must come first. Under Labor, there has
- 12:28Speaker 2: been this trifecta of failures, prices up, reliability down, and
- 12:35Speaker 2: emissions flatlining.
- 12:38Speaker 1: It is the contradiction in the liberal policy, which I
- 12:41Speaker 1: suspect was done so that the Liberals wouldn't frighten off
- 12:45Speaker 1: have so many of these global warm believers out there,
- 12:48Speaker 1: and also to keep sweet liberals who did want to
- 12:50Speaker 1: somehow stick to net zero, like Anne Russ Than it
- 12:54Speaker 1: looked stony face to this press conference, with Lee shooting
- 12:58Speaker 1: a friend and ally seemingly nervous looks. The compromise is
- 13:03Speaker 1: the Liberals will still stick with the Paris Agreement that
- 13:05Speaker 1: commits the world to net zero, although not by twenty
- 13:08Speaker 1: fifty but by twenty one hundred.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Australians deserve affordable energy and responsible emissions reduction, and the
- 13:20Speaker 2: Liberal Party believes we can do both.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Actually, those two targets are in contradiction to each other. Right,
- 13:27Speaker 1: how's that going to be resolved? With Lee some promising
- 13:30Speaker 1: to still somehow cut emissions by more every year, which
- 13:34Speaker 1: even this Albanesi government has not managed. And by the way,
- 13:39Speaker 1: other countries likewise talk oh net zero, big game, but
- 13:42Speaker 1: they also don't back it up.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Look at what countries are doing now under the Paris
- 13:46Speaker 2: Agreement with their NDCs. They're submitting NDCs that they probably
- 13:50Speaker 2: know they can never keep. What we are doing is
- 13:52Speaker 2: being honest with the Australian people. You have a government
- 13:55Speaker 2: that has promised you two things that it has not delivered,
- 13:58Speaker 2: affordable energy and reduceing emissions, and it hasn't done either.
- 14:04Speaker 1: But you know, you saw the journalists and all that.
- 14:07Speaker 1: You know. Meanwhile, the Greens they are also into playground insults.
- 14:13Speaker 7: They look like a bunch of nutters.
- 14:17Speaker 1: But the Nationals, who forced the Liberals into backtracking by
- 14:21Speaker 1: themselves first scrapping net zero, seemed right on board. Today.
- 14:25Speaker 1: They seemed ready to make common cause with the Liberals again,
- 14:27Speaker 1: which I guess is more credit to Lee.
- 14:30Speaker 8: From what I've seen on face value, I think the
- 14:33Speaker 8: Liberal Party has shown great maturity and leadership to the
- 14:38Speaker 8: extent of where the National Party put forward a cheaper,
- 14:41Speaker 8: better fare plan that doesn't walk away from actually addressing
- 14:46Speaker 8: climate change.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Joining is our regular Thursday column commentator National ZMP Barnaby Joyce,
- 14:54Speaker 1: the former Deputy Prime Minister. Barnaby be great to see you.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Your response to the liberals new policy and how much
- 15:00Speaker 1: is it due to you?
- 15:03Speaker 6: Well, I'd first like to congratulate the Susan and Liberal
- 15:07Speaker 6: Party for making a move towards reinvigorating our capacity to
- 15:11Speaker 6: reindustrialize Australia and get power prices start putting so much
- 15:16Speaker 6: upput pressure on power prices. I think she'll be able
- 15:19Speaker 6: to judge her work against the Labor Party and what
- 15:21Speaker 6: power prices have been happening under them. As far as
- 15:24Speaker 6: my part, yes, played a part, of course, but played
- 15:27Speaker 6: a part with a lot of other people, with either
- 15:30Speaker 6: Matt Canavan or Andrew Hasty or Tony Passon or Michael
- 15:34Speaker 6: McCormick or Loui O'Brien or a number of others who
- 15:36Speaker 6: are part of the Repeal net zero bill, amongst other things.
- 15:40Speaker 6: And now I expect on Monday everybody can turn up
- 15:43Speaker 6: and speak on the repeal net zero bill in the coalition.
- 15:46Speaker 1: I look forward to that. Well, that's another test for
- 15:50Speaker 1: them all. Can the Liberals do you think sell this
- 15:55Speaker 1: steal to vote? As I showed you some of the
- 15:57Speaker 1: absurd questions from journeys, how can you live with the
- 15:59Speaker 1: flights and fires and all that? And can they sell
- 16:02Speaker 1: it specifically under Susan Lee?
- 16:05Speaker 6: Of course they can. You know, if your heart's in it,
- 16:08Speaker 6: your logic says we are never going to change the climate.
- 16:12Speaker 6: So for all those reporters, should you turn around say
- 16:15Speaker 6: do you do you honestly believe that Australia's actions will
- 16:19Speaker 6: change the climate, like I know, less cyclones, less routes,
- 16:21Speaker 6: more for USTs, whatever you want. Is that going to happen?
- 16:24Speaker 1: Apparently they and apparently they do.
- 16:26Speaker 6: Barnaby, Well, why don't we have a meteorite tax and
- 16:30Speaker 6: then we can stop metea wites. You know, it's it's
- 16:32Speaker 6: just as you said, as I've said, it's a cult.
- 16:35Speaker 6: And when you're talking to cult members, you'll never get logic,
- 16:38Speaker 6: You'll just get expressions from the guru and the gurus
- 16:41Speaker 6: the billionaires who are just creaming it with their capacity
- 16:44Speaker 6: investment schemes, they're the ones who are really upset because
- 16:48Speaker 6: they see there's a possibility that the absolute meal ticket
- 16:52Speaker 6: of a capacity investment scheme, role Gold governor nunity, paid
- 16:55Speaker 6: for by the tax players, paid for by the benchers
- 16:58Speaker 6: in their power prices, might be dumped on. That might
- 17:01Speaker 6: be the next thing that gets dumped on. And you
- 17:03Speaker 6: know what will they do. They'll have to get a
- 17:05Speaker 6: smaller corporate jet.
- 17:09Speaker 1: I was worrying Barnaby both some of the language today
- 17:13Speaker 1: of the Nationals leader David Little, proud language like this.
- 17:17Speaker 8: When not challenging the science of climate change, we're challenging
- 17:20Speaker 8: the economics and how we can do it better, how
- 17:23Speaker 8: we can live up to the science in a better
- 17:25Speaker 8: economical way for Australians. Because it doesn't matter whether you
- 17:28Speaker 8: live on the Gold Coast, whether you live in Sydney
- 17:31Speaker 8: or in Kannamala, your energy bills the same. You're copying
- 17:35Speaker 8: it in the neck. The costs continue to go up,
- 17:38Speaker 8: and so why wouldn't we say that we'll live up
- 17:40Speaker 8: to international commitments. That debates move past the twenty fifteen
- 17:43Speaker 8: of whether climate change or real is not? It is real.
- 17:46Speaker 8: The science is settled in.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Fact, as any scientists would tell you, any good scientists, barnaby,
- 17:52Speaker 1: no science is settled. And there is huge scientific debate
- 17:56Speaker 1: about how much we truly know about climate change and
- 17:59Speaker 1: the drivers of it and the effects of it. Many predictions,
- 18:02Speaker 1: as you know, really proved false. In the dams have
- 18:04Speaker 1: not dried, we haven't been hit by more cyclones, and
- 18:07Speaker 1: Pacific islands haven't been drowning in droves, or does little
- 18:11Speaker 1: proud do you think? Have no option politically but to
- 18:14Speaker 1: say this sort of stuff, well, it's.
- 18:18Speaker 6: A Copernicuan dilemma, isn't it. You know? You know Copernicus
- 18:22Speaker 6: had to come back and say, I know, I think
- 18:24Speaker 6: you guys have got it right.
- 18:25Speaker 1: The world is the.
- 18:27Speaker 6: Center of the universe and everything rotates around it, even though.
- 18:31Speaker 1: They know it's wrong.
- 18:33Speaker 6: Science is a dynamic thing that moves on and it
- 18:36Speaker 6: changes in total or changes in.
- 18:40Speaker 1: My newshi.
- 18:41Speaker 6: But what you see in the cult is of course
- 18:42Speaker 6: people stating the question like they know the science, like
- 18:45Speaker 6: they're atmospheric scientists, that they're all across it. They can
- 18:48Speaker 6: give you the regression analysis on it, and of course
- 18:50Speaker 6: they don't. Like most cult followers, they just believers. They're
- 18:55Speaker 6: believers and you're a denier. And that's about as deep
- 18:58Speaker 6: as the scientific debate for any of them goes. What
- 19:02Speaker 6: I can say is that there's you know, what we
- 19:04Speaker 6: will be doing out here is saying are the swingle
- 19:07Speaker 6: factory stopping? Are the transmission line's going to stop? Are
- 19:10Speaker 6: the solar panels covering the field's going to stop? Are
- 19:13Speaker 6: the wind house that would go all over that horizon?
- 19:15Speaker 6: Are they going to stop? Is that stopping or because
- 19:18Speaker 6: we've still got to like a bed each ways, they're
- 19:21Speaker 6: still kind of going ahead. And if they're still kind
- 19:23Speaker 6: of going ahead, we're still kind of unhappy.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Kind of good questions too, Barnaby Joyce, thank you so much,
- 19:31Speaker 1: indeed for your time. After the break, Victorians actually voted
- 19:35Speaker 1: no to the Voice, along with the rest of Australia,
- 19:38Speaker 1: no to the racial division of this country. But the
- 19:42Speaker 1: Victorian Premiere is still today signed to treaty with people
- 19:45Speaker 1: identifying as Aboriginal. So how much will this cost? Two
- 19:54Speaker 1: years after Australians voted no to Labour's Voice, two years
- 19:59Speaker 1: after even Victorians foted know to the Albanezi Govern's plan
- 20:02Speaker 1: to Divartis by race a shameful moment, Victoria's premier still
- 20:09Speaker 1: signed a treaty that cemented racial division, a treaty between
- 20:13Speaker 1: the ninety nine percent of Victorians who aren't Aboriginal with
- 20:16Speaker 1: the one percent who say they are, or rather with
- 20:19Speaker 1: Aboriginal representatives from the First People's Assembly, an assembly elected
- 20:23Speaker 1: by fewer than ten percent of Aborigines entitled to vote.
- 20:28Speaker 1: What a mutilation of democracy and what will it lead to? Will?
- 20:34Speaker 1: Already this month we've seen one Aboriginal tribe lay claim
- 20:37Speaker 1: to all public land and rivers in Melbourne and countryside,
- 20:40Speaker 1: around eleven claimants of whom I have already shown you for,
- 20:45Speaker 1: including a muslim Man, which for me poses the question
- 20:49Speaker 1: why do people with mixed ancestry and now mixed cultures
- 20:54Speaker 1: identifying as Aboriginal have more say than the five and
- 20:59Speaker 1: a half million fellow citizens not of their tribe. But
- 21:04Speaker 1: there's now another question, and to answer it requires an
- 21:08Speaker 1: economist joining me is Leif and nonsenan co founder of
- 21:11Speaker 1: Macro Business and a former Federal Treasury official. Lee, thank
- 21:16Speaker 1: you so much for your time. Before I get onto
- 21:17Speaker 1: your real hitting ground, immigration, the question is this, what
- 21:22Speaker 1: will the treaty cost and what will this land claim
- 21:26Speaker 1: of a Melbourne potentially cost.
- 21:29Speaker 9: Look to be honest, we don't know exactly whoever, if
- 21:31Speaker 9: we're going to add a third house to the state parliament,
- 21:34Speaker 9: so I've got a upper House, a lower House, and
- 21:36Speaker 9: now we're going to have a First Nation's House. Obviously
- 21:39Speaker 9: that's going to add significantly significant cost in terms of
- 21:41Speaker 9: running expenses, staff, salaries and all those sorts of things.
- 21:44Speaker 9: And what also means is that it's going to add
- 21:46Speaker 9: a whole layer of bureaucracy to Victoria. It means that
- 21:49Speaker 9: every piece of legislation, etc. Is going to now have
- 21:52Speaker 9: to run through this First Nation's House, and that means
- 21:55Speaker 9: we're going to have more red tape, which then means
- 21:58Speaker 9: it's going to be a lot harder to get things
- 21:59Speaker 9: done in Victoria, whether that's projects and that sort of thing.
- 22:03Speaker 9: So to the extent that the treaty adds cost to
- 22:05Speaker 9: running the state, that's obviously going to have to be
- 22:07Speaker 9: recovered via taxes, and it's going to mean less economic
- 22:09Speaker 9: growth that.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Sort of thing.
- 22:11Speaker 9: So you know, Andrew, Victoria's economy is already very weak.
- 22:14Speaker 1: We've got we're.
- 22:15Speaker 9: Drowning in debt. We have the highest taxes in the
- 22:18Speaker 9: nation of any state. So if we're going to add
- 22:21Speaker 9: a whole new layer of bureaucracy, that in my opinion
- 22:24Speaker 9: is a pretty retro retrograde move here, and it's just
- 22:28Speaker 9: going to weaken the state ultimately.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Yes, I think the first business is to worry will
- 22:35Speaker 1: be anyone that's got a boat playing up and down
- 22:39Speaker 1: the Arra River for a start. Now, But to another issue, immigration,
- 22:43Speaker 1: which you've written so much on and so well. The
- 22:47Speaker 1: Institute of Public Affairs is in a new reported study
- 22:49Speaker 1: of the immigration figures to September that we have in
- 22:54Speaker 1: those known months had the highest ever number of permanent
- 22:57Speaker 1: long term migrant arrivals for similar periods. Just extraordinary numbers, Leath,
- 23:03Speaker 1: and I know you've been warning about this kind of thing,
- 23:05Speaker 1: comparing just the first three cords of every year, and
- 23:08Speaker 1: especially so even more amazing when you think the Albutizy
- 23:12Speaker 1: government claimed it would be slashing these numbers. I don't
- 23:15Speaker 1: see that happening. What's going on and what effects it
- 23:19Speaker 1: had on say, house prices and rents.
- 23:22Speaker 9: Yeah, So the numbers that you're referring to, that that's
- 23:24Speaker 9: the monthly net perman long term arrivals data. Now they're
- 23:27Speaker 9: not the official net overseas migration data which comes out
- 23:29Speaker 9: six months later, but they are used as like a
- 23:32Speaker 9: leading indicator for migration typically, and we've basically got record
- 23:36Speaker 9: numbers the first seven months of this year, the highest
- 23:38Speaker 9: in history, six percent higher than the same time last year.
- 23:41Speaker 9: At the same time today, Andrew, we got the official
- 23:44Speaker 9: labor force release from the Strain Bureau Statistics and that
- 23:47Speaker 9: showed that Australia's working age population has been rising throughout
- 23:50Speaker 9: twenty twenty five. So both sets of data suggest that
- 23:53Speaker 9: net overseas migration's rising again. And Totality, which is a
- 23:57Speaker 9: housing data provider, they reported this month at Australia rental
- 24:00Speaker 9: vancy rate is actually fallen to a record low and
- 24:03Speaker 9: that rents are now accelerating. So it appears that the
- 24:05Speaker 9: imbalance between population demand and housing supply is worsening once again.
- 24:10Speaker 9: And this is obviously terrible news if you're a renter
- 24:13Speaker 9: or if you're someone who's looking to buy a home,
- 24:15Speaker 9: because just means it's going to get a whole lot
- 24:16Speaker 9: more difficult.
- 24:20Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I mean, the government keeps saying,
- 24:22Speaker 1: oh no, it's a supply issue, not a demand issue
- 24:25Speaker 1: like hello, you know, but for one, their program to
- 24:30Speaker 1: build all these houses one and one point two million
- 24:33Speaker 1: in four years or whatever it is, that's way behind schedule.
- 24:38Speaker 1: How can it not then be a problem supply of
- 24:42Speaker 1: demand as well all these people that are pouring in. Yeah.
- 24:45Speaker 9: Absolutely, So the government's housing target is about running sixty
- 24:48Speaker 9: thousand behind in its first year, so we're not even
- 24:51Speaker 9: close to that being mess at the same time as
- 24:53Speaker 9: we've got very high immigrants immigration still, so you don't
- 24:57Speaker 9: be a rocket signers. The government's own National Housing Supply
- 24:59Speaker 9: and Ability Council worn that, you know, under the Treasury's
- 25:03Speaker 9: migration settings, the housing shortage is going to worse than
- 25:05Speaker 9: over the next five years. And they actually said that
- 25:07Speaker 9: if population grows fifteen percent higher than what Treasury forecasts,
- 25:11Speaker 9: which it seems based on these sorts of numbers it
- 25:13Speaker 9: probably is tracking around that level, the housing shortge is
- 25:17Speaker 9: going to worsen by another two hundred thousand over the
- 25:19Speaker 9: next five years. And that's at the top of the
- 25:21Speaker 9: estimated two hundred thousand we have already shocking.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Oh, that's incredible. Lethanonsilan. The Liberals today said no to
- 25:31Speaker 1: net zero. It was actually muddy than that, as you
- 25:33Speaker 1: probably know. You know, it's still saying yes, let's cut
- 25:37Speaker 1: astray as emission progressively each year, and of course then
- 25:42Speaker 1: they've still got to sell it. Who knows how that
- 25:44Speaker 1: will go. But how important is this or not that
- 25:48Speaker 1: we get rid of net zero?
- 25:51Speaker 9: Oh, look it's I think it's very important. Australia counts
- 25:54Speaker 9: for only about one percent of global carbon emissions, so
- 25:56Speaker 9: we should not be trying to lead the world on
- 25:58Speaker 9: net zero and punishing as with high energy costs, which
- 26:01Speaker 9: is exactly what we're doing. We export seven times more
- 26:04Speaker 9: coal then we use ourselves. We export four times more
- 26:07Speaker 9: gas then we use ourselves. Much of our coal and
- 26:10Speaker 9: gas exports go to China, who was accounted for two
- 26:13Speaker 9: thirds of the rise in the world's carbon emissions this century.
- 26:16Speaker 9: So you know, Andrew, Australia should place energy, affordabilding security
- 26:20Speaker 9: above everything else when it comes to this, because expensive
- 26:23Speaker 9: energy means a higher cost of living, it means embedded inflation,
- 26:26Speaker 9: it means we're going to have further de industrialization, We're
- 26:28Speaker 9: going to keep losing our manufacturing industry and effectual Australia
- 26:32Speaker 9: should be aiming to become more efficient in all areas
- 26:34Speaker 9: of the economy by basically using less resources per unit
- 26:38Speaker 9: of output, rather than focusing on some arbitrary target which
- 26:41Speaker 9: is going to push up our energy costs. But that
- 26:43Speaker 9: being said, I'd like to see the coalition back Peter
- 26:45Speaker 9: Dutton's excellent gas reservation policy that he took to the
- 26:48Speaker 9: last federal election, because Andrew cheaper gas is critical for
- 26:52Speaker 9: lower energy costs, and Peter Dutton's gas reservation plan would
- 26:55Speaker 9: have delivered that.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Look, the whole thing just strives me nuts. It's so
- 27:02Speaker 1: insane what we're doing to ourselves. Leif for nonsolin macrovisiness,
- 27:06Speaker 1: thank you so much, indeed for your time, really appreciate it.
- 27:10Speaker 1: After the break, the Liberals scrap net zero, Yes, but
- 27:15Speaker 1: now listen to the lies and the falsehoods thrown at
- 27:18Speaker 1: them from climate hysterics. Now, the liberals decision to scrap
- 27:26Speaker 1: the net zero targets has been the a q for
- 27:29Speaker 1: more hysteria, mad claims, even lying about the climate, ignorant, ludicrous,
- 27:36Speaker 1: unscientific scares like this nonsense. I showed you earlier from
- 27:40Speaker 1: one of the journalists attacking opposites, Leader Susan Lee.
- 27:44Speaker 7: So in the coming years, when Australians are counting the
- 27:46Speaker 7: cost of fires and floods and other natural disasters, is
- 27:50Speaker 7: your response going to be to them, don't worry, we
- 27:53Speaker 7: just did our share.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Well, there's similar claim today from the Climate Council. Recall
- 28:00Speaker 1: that had Tim Flannery first, the country's first climate commissioner.
- 28:07Speaker 1: He helped set that up. A claim that the Liberals
- 28:11Speaker 1: policy would burn down the country, hurt your children.
- 28:17Speaker 2: If this was enacted by a government, it would mean
- 28:19Speaker 2: more fires, more floods, more deadly heat waves.
- 28:22Speaker 6: It's saying, to hell with our kids future.
- 28:25Speaker 1: How can she tell such untruths and with such sanctimony.
- 28:30Speaker 1: I mean she must know everything she said was false.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Australia is simply too small to affect the climate by
- 28:39Speaker 1: anything measurable, whatever we do. Former Chief Scientists of Australia
- 28:44Speaker 1: and thinker, he said, he admitted that, he admitted that
- 28:47Speaker 1: it's a global one believer himself had to admit it
- 28:50Speaker 1: on oath to a parliamentary committee.
- 28:53Speaker 10: In Australia, we admit less than one point three percent
- 28:57Speaker 10: of the world's carbon emissions. If we reduce the world's
- 29:02Speaker 10: carbon emissions by one point three percent, what impact would
- 29:07Speaker 10: that have on the changing climate of the world.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Virtually nothing. We could close every Culfard power station, destroy
- 29:15Speaker 1: every car, ground, every airplane, put a cork and every
- 29:20Speaker 1: cow and would still make virtually no difference to the climate.
- 29:24Speaker 1: And that is the science. Where does the Climate Council lie?
- 29:32Speaker 1: But it does highlight the critical issue Now for the Liberals,
- 29:36Speaker 1: sure they've scrapped in a zero applause, but do they
- 29:40Speaker 1: have the leader who now can not just defend it
- 29:42Speaker 1: but turn this issue into an attack on the government
- 29:45Speaker 1: and its disastrous energy policies. I'll ask, will this effort
- 29:50Speaker 1: do this attack on Labour's plans today by Opposition leader
- 29:53Speaker 1: Susan Lee.
- 29:55Speaker 2: There is no plan. The government has no plan to
- 29:59Speaker 2: deliver househ what they deserve. Isn't this the first responsibility
- 30:03Speaker 2: of every government to make sure that its citizens can
- 30:07Speaker 2: have access to affordable power in winter, in summer, for
- 30:10Speaker 2: manufacturing and for their daily needs.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Joining Miss the Penels, go and you's host Anika di
- 30:16Speaker 1: Georgia and communications consultant Christian McSweeney, who has worked for
- 30:20Speaker 1: coalition prime ministers and premiers. But Chris the how about
- 30:25Speaker 1: giving some advice free advice now to an opposition leader.
- 30:28Speaker 1: I said, I thought Lee did okay today, but it's
- 30:32Speaker 1: that start of communications what you'd like to see from
- 30:35Speaker 1: a Liberal leader.
- 30:38Speaker 11: Look, I thought she did okay too, and I thought
- 30:41Speaker 11: she did okay. Given the fact that they still haven't
- 30:44Speaker 11: had a policy. There has been six months since the
- 30:48Speaker 11: election of the Liberals making themselves the story. There's some
- 30:52Speaker 11: very obvious wedges there that they could have been prosecuting
- 30:55Speaker 11: through the last term of government. They could have started
- 30:59Speaker 11: work and could have started work day after the election
- 31:02Speaker 11: to have a policy, to come to the Parliament and
- 31:06Speaker 11: to wedge the Labor Party. And I think that it's
- 31:10Speaker 11: laziness to make yourself the story for the last six
- 31:14Speaker 11: months and to say we're going to dump net zero,
- 31:17Speaker 11: but we're not offering Australians an alternative. And I understand
- 31:21Speaker 11: they're endeavoring to get to that point, but you know, Andrew,
- 31:25Speaker 11: I think it's lazy. We've had fifteen years, fifteen years
- 31:28Speaker 11: and six months to come up with a viable alternative.
- 31:31Speaker 11: I see a lot of it is returning to Peter
- 31:33Speaker 11: Dunton's nuclear plan, A good plan, a plan that had
- 31:37Speaker 11: a lot of support if it was indeed a plan
- 31:40Speaker 11: that was saleable because it should have been thought out.
- 31:43Speaker 11: So we can see that there's been a lack of
- 31:45Speaker 11: work in the past term. That lack of work has
- 31:48Speaker 11: continued since the election and we're now here defending this
- 31:53Speaker 11: circus that we have seen since the election. Now there's
- 31:56Speaker 11: a message there to sell, absolutely, but does the Coalition
- 32:01Speaker 11: have the ability, the appetite and the work ethic to
- 32:05Speaker 11: get to work and sell that. They think they've got
- 32:08Speaker 11: until the next election to do that. There's an election
- 32:11Speaker 11: here in Victoria in November twenty twenty six. Now the
- 32:15Speaker 11: voters of Victoria are going to expect an alternative policy
- 32:19Speaker 11: before that brand damage is done. And there's a lot
- 32:23Speaker 11: of brand damage in the gamble that we've taken. There's
- 32:26Speaker 11: a lot of positives as well. If we can get
- 32:27Speaker 11: that message right, absolutely, but come up with an alternative
- 32:31Speaker 11: otherwise that brand damage is going to festa.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll come up with an alternative. What do you
- 32:38Speaker 1: think Denika can the more than defend themselves. They've got
- 32:43Speaker 1: to launch an attack in the disastrous policies that the
- 32:47Speaker 1: government is already inflicting on Australia, never mind any alternative.
- 32:51Speaker 1: In one sense, do you think the Liberals are up
- 32:54Speaker 1: to it and under.
- 32:55Speaker 12: This leadership, To be honest, I don't think so. Honestly,
- 33:00Speaker 12: I just don't see it happening under this leadership.
- 33:03Speaker 7: Andrew.
- 33:04Speaker 12: Look, the Liberals have had six months now to pull
- 33:07Speaker 12: themselves together, and today was the very first time that
- 33:10Speaker 12: we saw Susan Lee really have a crack at policy.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Now.
- 33:14Speaker 12: Look, she's worked very hard. I don't deny that, But
- 33:17Speaker 12: do I think that now she is the leader that's
- 33:20Speaker 12: going to take this policy to the next election to
- 33:23Speaker 12: prosecute it, because day in day out, she's going to
- 33:25Speaker 12: come up with come against journalists like what we experience today.
- 33:29Speaker 12: She's going to have labor after them the Greens today,
- 33:32Speaker 12: I mean Sarah Hanson Young called them, you know, all
- 33:35Speaker 12: sorts of things today. She's going to have to really
- 33:38Speaker 12: put up a fight, and I'm not so sure she
- 33:41Speaker 12: is the one to do this. Six months of dilly dallying,
- 33:44Speaker 12: we were told that an energy policy would be on
- 33:46Speaker 12: the table within twelve months. I'm glad they've brought it
- 33:49Speaker 12: forward somewhat to six months, But even this week, the
- 33:51Speaker 12: way that they've gone about it, it has dragged on
- 33:55Speaker 12: yesterday today. Then they're going to meet on Sunday. Why
- 33:58Speaker 12: didn't Susan Lee come out yesterday speak and say this
- 34:01Speaker 12: is what the policy was.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Everything is dragged.
- 34:03Speaker 12: Out And I think in terms of a cell in
- 34:06Speaker 12: answers to that question, I don't think the general public
- 34:09Speaker 12: care about the terms net zero, that don't care about
- 34:11Speaker 12: the Paris Agreement. They go, my bills are going up
- 34:14Speaker 12: and up. So it's short, sharp slogans that are actually
- 34:18Speaker 12: going to bring voters with them. And look, it's not going.
- 34:22Speaker 13: To be easy.
- 34:23Speaker 12: I don't think Andrew.
- 34:26Speaker 1: No, it certainly isn't going to be easy. You do
- 34:29Speaker 1: need cut through and I was surprised this is in
- 34:33Speaker 1: Lee sounded so on top of some of the details
- 34:36Speaker 1: of climate policy. But I think you're going to need
- 34:40Speaker 1: a blowtorch to get the message through when you're talking
- 34:43Speaker 1: about challenging a religion. But on that point, Christy, I
- 34:47Speaker 1: wonder whether one problem with selling a message is that
- 34:51Speaker 1: Australians generally seem to have lost the respect for disciplines.
- 34:54Speaker 1: We're making things actually work counts where spin and slogans
- 35:00Speaker 1: don't cut it. For a start, not one minister in
- 35:03Speaker 1: this Albanizi government that's got this disastrous transition to renewables
- 35:08Speaker 1: has worked as an engineer or a scientist. Most of the
- 35:11Speaker 1: lawyers are union officials party workers. In Australia, generally only
- 35:15Speaker 1: eight point five percent of our graduates have an engineer
- 35:17Speaker 1: in qualification, the sixth lowest then developed world. We have
- 35:22Speaker 1: so few mechanics and other job where things must be
- 35:25Speaker 1: made to work. Car owners can wait months, we're told
- 35:28Speaker 1: for some repairs, and we have so few scientists twelve
- 35:32Speaker 1: thousand and too few claims university in Australia. I mean,
- 35:36Speaker 1: is this part of the problem that that's left the
- 35:39Speaker 1: voter block that will fall for any spin that you
- 35:42Speaker 1: can run an economy on just wind and solar.
- 35:47Speaker 11: Well, they have fallen for the spin, Andrew. But they've
- 35:49Speaker 11: fallen for the spin because I returned to my point.
- 35:52Speaker 11: The Coalition hasn't taken up this issue for fifteen years.
- 35:56Speaker 11: They haven't prosecuted an argument, they haven't done work, and
- 36:00Speaker 11: we are now at the point where the Australian public
- 36:03Speaker 11: thinks net zero is interchangeable with believing in climate change.
- 36:07Speaker 11: And as you said, you compared it to a religion.
- 36:10Speaker 11: Well that's the key tenant of that.
- 36:13Speaker 7: Now.
- 36:14Speaker 11: If we want to wind that clock back fifteen years.
- 36:17Speaker 11: That has enabled that message to be entrench As I say,
- 36:20Speaker 11: that's a gamble. They have to have the capability work
- 36:24Speaker 11: ethic and to do that. I'm not sold on the
- 36:27Speaker 11: fact that they do, given the fact that I saw
- 36:30Speaker 11: a lot during the last election around how we sought
- 36:34Speaker 11: to develop a nuclear energy plan was essentially three dot
- 36:37Speaker 11: points on a page. The sentiment's a good one, but
- 36:40Speaker 11: you have to work, guys. And I saw a lot
- 36:43Speaker 11: of people caring about the election that's in front of them,
- 36:46Speaker 11: Andrew and Danika of this week, and that election is
- 36:50Speaker 11: called pre selection. I haven't seen a lot of people
- 36:52Speaker 11: get to work caring about the election that's coming down
- 36:55Speaker 11: the track.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Well. On the nuclear policy, they had a policy that
- 37:00Speaker 1: they didn't have the confidence to prosecute that it was
- 37:04Speaker 1: a defensive policy. Now here's the point, Daneaker. They really
- 37:08Speaker 1: do need to use this, you know, argue for it proudly.
- 37:13Speaker 1: This is the weapon to attect the government. It's not
- 37:16Speaker 1: one you should be in defense against. You know, Look,
- 37:20Speaker 1: we do have a policy that we don't really want
- 37:21Speaker 1: to talk about it. Go for it.
- 37:25Speaker 12: One percent, Andrew. If you remember, in the dying days
- 37:28Speaker 12: of this year's election campaign, suddenly the word nuclear wasn't mentioned.
- 37:32Speaker 12: I don't even recall it being mentioned once.
- 37:35Speaker 2: By the Liberals.
- 37:36Speaker 12: They got scared, They absolutely got scared. Well, what's the
- 37:39Speaker 12: point of being an alternative government if you've got to
- 37:41Speaker 12: run away from key issues? Which brings me, in my
- 37:44Speaker 12: opinion now andrew to the next policy that the Liberals
- 37:47Speaker 12: need to prosecute, and that is migration, another issue that
- 37:51Speaker 12: they cannot be running away from because of the you know,
- 37:53Speaker 12: the R word that gets tossed around racism. It is
- 37:57Speaker 12: not racist to have a genuine conversation mass migration in
- 38:01Speaker 12: this country and the types of people we are bringing in.
- 38:03Speaker 12: So if this is going to be a genuine opposition,
- 38:05Speaker 12: well it's time to have some tough and probably at
- 38:08Speaker 12: times uncomfortable discussion. But give Australians a different point of difference,
- 38:16Speaker 12: give voters what they want, and it all starts with
- 38:19Speaker 12: having guts and courage.
- 38:22Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that nuclear power. In the election.
- 38:24Speaker 1: There was one debate between Ted O'Brien, who developed the
- 38:28Speaker 1: nuclear policy, and Chris Bowen at the National Press Club.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Really O'Brien wiped the floor with Bowen, absolutely wiped the
- 38:38Speaker 1: floor with him. A turn that gibbering global warming maniac
- 38:43Speaker 1: into a paddle of sweat. And I couldn't believe that
- 38:46Speaker 1: they hadn't used the new hadn't focused on climate policy
- 38:52Speaker 1: being the government's achilles heel and not its strength. Let's
- 38:55Speaker 1: hope they've learned that. Lesson Adnika to Georgio Christi McSweeney,
- 38:58Speaker 1: thank you very much to you both. After the break,
- 39:03Speaker 1: Britain's Labor Party won a massive election victory only sixteen
- 39:09Speaker 1: months ago. Now it's Prime minister makes off full of himself,
- 39:12Speaker 1: trying to save his job as poll show his cactus.
- 39:15Speaker 1: And this is inspiration for the Liberal party here. I
- 39:27Speaker 1: always try to be helpful on this show, so I'm
- 39:30Speaker 1: now going to offer the Liberals some hope, even inspiration,
- 39:35Speaker 1: because you know how they got smashed at the last
- 39:37Speaker 1: election so badly that commentators reckoned the Liberals. They are
- 39:41Speaker 1: gone for a generation, maybe forever. Well. In Britain, Labor
- 39:47Speaker 1: there had a massive win, like Labor here, massive win
- 39:50Speaker 1: and only sixteen months ago it won three times more
- 39:54Speaker 1: seats than the Conservatives. But like Labor here, it wasn't
- 39:59Speaker 1: actually that popular. Labor here, Labor there both got around
- 40:04Speaker 1: just thirty four percent or so of the vote thirty
- 40:07Speaker 1: four percent right. And now look just sixteen months later,
- 40:12Speaker 1: Britain's Prime Minister Keya Stammer and his Labor government so incompetent,
- 40:18Speaker 1: so hated that the Governm's now running third in some poles,
- 40:22Speaker 1: third behind Najel Foraja's reform, Patty and the Conservatives. And
- 40:27Speaker 1: now the media there is suddenly reporting that some of
- 40:30Speaker 1: the government are plotting to replace Starma, who's fighting back.
- 40:34Speaker 1: The media was full of it on Tuesday.
- 40:36Speaker 5: Chatter's been swirling around for days about a challenge, and
- 40:40Speaker 5: she says a number ten operation is going on the
- 40:43Speaker 5: attack ahead of a difficult budget that's on the twenty
- 40:46Speaker 5: sixth of November. Beth reports to The argument being made
- 40:50Speaker 5: by the PM's allies is that any challenge would precipitate
- 40:54Speaker 5: a drawn out leadership election process, spook the markets, and
- 40:58Speaker 5: only create more chaos and further damage to the Labor brand.
- 41:03Speaker 5: She says, I'm told that the PM is determined to
- 41:06Speaker 5: fight on and has no intention of giving way just
- 41:09Speaker 5: eighteen months into his term.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Drama, drama, drama. But yesterday it got worse for Standard
- 41:17Speaker 1: because it turned out his own staff had leaked this story.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Apparently somehow damaged the man they feared Health Secretary wiz Streading,
- 41:27Speaker 1: who wasn't taking that lying down.
- 41:30Speaker 13: I think of others been briefing this has been watching
- 41:32Speaker 13: too much celebrity traitors and this is just about the
- 41:34Speaker 13: worst attack on a faith. It's totally self defeating briefing,
- 41:39Speaker 13: not least because it's not true. And I don't understand
- 41:43Speaker 13: how anyone thinks it's helpful to the Prime minister either
- 41:45Speaker 13: suggests he's fighting for his job.
- 41:48Speaker 1: That could the same turnaround in fortunes happen here if
- 41:51Speaker 1: the Liberals finally moved the media spotlight off themselves and
- 41:55Speaker 1: onto the Albanesi government and it's Minimni Desires has join
- 41:59Speaker 1: me from London's Petrick Chris, They's presenter of GBN News. Patrick,
- 42:03Speaker 1: always great to see you. Look, first of all, explain
- 42:06Speaker 1: the mystery. What has got your labor government so unpopular
- 42:10Speaker 1: that it's gone from a landslide win sixteen months ago
- 42:13Speaker 1: to on its knees and leadership speculation now And I'm
- 42:18Speaker 1: looking here for listeners for Australia.
- 42:21Speaker 14: Okay, wow, unrelenting scandals, a corruption minister that went a
- 42:24Speaker 14: mid corruption allegations, a homelessness minister that weren't because she
- 42:28Speaker 14: was going to make her tenants homeless, A housing minister
- 42:30Speaker 14: that weren't because you didn't pay enough housing tax, giving
- 42:33Speaker 14: away British sovereign territory to the Chinese, prosecuting military veterans,
- 42:37Speaker 14: letting prisoners, including foreign sex offenders, out of prison by mistake.
- 42:42Speaker 14: Mostly just the lies though, really planning to stop immigration,
- 42:45Speaker 14: they said, Or we've got record levels of illegal immigration,
- 42:48Speaker 14: the economies knackered, unemployments up, and we had the highest
- 42:51Speaker 14: tax raising budget in history. There has been a tidal
- 42:55Speaker 14: wave andrew of weapons grade incompetence, the likes of which
- 42:59Speaker 14: I know we've ever seen before. So in a nutshell,
- 43:02Speaker 14: that's where it's gone wrong.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Well, I have to admit that Australia hasn't been quite
- 43:09Speaker 1: very unlucky in its government, and the Liberals not quite
- 43:12Speaker 1: so lucky. But that's an extraordinary list. I think he
- 43:16Speaker 1: meant you lift out a few things too. But how
- 43:19Speaker 1: did you even just since the leadership speculation, Patrick put
- 43:26Speaker 1: points a finger at how hopefless dis goovernment is of yours.
- 43:30Speaker 1: Why did Sama's staff think it was smart politics to
- 43:34Speaker 1: brief reporters that the Prime minister had ministers who are
- 43:37Speaker 1: trying to stab him. I mean, really, what's.
- 43:39Speaker 14: Going on, Absolutely ridiculous. I mean the Labor government's staff
- 43:44Speaker 14: have the opposite of the mind's touch, right. So the
- 43:47Speaker 14: thing is the British public wants him out. But there
- 43:49Speaker 14: was always at least the pretense that his labor colleagues
- 43:51Speaker 14: quite liked him. Well now that's completely gone. It's backfired massively.
- 43:55Speaker 14: He's achieved the impossible, or his labor team have achieved
- 43:58Speaker 14: the impossible. They've managed to make him even less popular
- 44:01Speaker 14: and made some of that labor cabinet slightly more popularly. Yeah,
- 44:05Speaker 14: we are now officially being led by a bloke who
- 44:07Speaker 14: can't run his own staff, can't run his own party,
- 44:10Speaker 14: clearly cannot run the country. And now this morning i'm
- 44:13Speaker 14: just reading the briefing, is that, oh, well we can't
- 44:16Speaker 14: get rid of we can't get rid of the Labor
- 44:18Speaker 14: leader because then they'd have to be a general election. Good,
- 44:21Speaker 14: that's what everyone wants. We want them now the budget.
- 44:25Speaker 14: The budget is on November twenty sixth, so look watch
- 44:29Speaker 14: this space, okay, because I think it's going to be
- 44:31Speaker 14: an open revolt. Then the other opportunity would be to
- 44:34Speaker 14: wait six months for him to get an absolute kicking
- 44:37Speaker 14: at the local elections in May. I don't think we
- 44:40Speaker 14: can carry on like this for another six months. The
- 44:42Speaker 14: starting gun has been fired. There's a circular firing squad
- 44:45Speaker 14: going on in the government at the minute. It's just
- 44:48Speaker 14: it's just gonna It's going to blow up at some
- 44:49Speaker 14: point very soon.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Andrew, Well, I think when your own spin doctors make
- 44:56Speaker 1: you look like an idiot and make the guy that's
- 44:59Speaker 1: allegedly stop talk, where's streating? He looked all right, Actually
- 45:02Speaker 1: he looked at much better proposition to me. But anyway,
- 45:06Speaker 1: I think it's time that maybe you really either got
- 45:08Speaker 1: new staff and got a new job. Patrick. I started
- 45:12Speaker 1: the show tonight by showing how our ABC, you're our
- 45:17Speaker 1: version of your BBC deceptively edited quotes with the effect
- 45:21Speaker 1: of making Donald Trump look bad, look in this case,
- 45:24Speaker 1: like a sex abuser. Well, Donald Trump this week has
- 45:29Speaker 1: given your BBC until tomorrow to apologize for similarly doctoring
- 45:34Speaker 1: quotes to make it seem like he incited a mob
- 45:37Speaker 1: to commit violence. He's given them till tomorrow to apologize.
- 45:41Speaker 1: Pay him some handsome conversation. Where is going to sue
- 45:44Speaker 1: them for a billion dollars American, What are they going
- 45:47Speaker 1: to do?
- 45:49Speaker 13: Well?
- 45:49Speaker 14: The BBC is going to find a way of making
- 45:51Speaker 14: is even worse, obviously, because that's what the BBC does.
- 45:54Speaker 14: The problem is that they're doing this with our money.
- 45:56Speaker 14: So the clock is ticking. You're right, it's ten pm
- 45:59Speaker 14: u K time on Friday that the BBC has to
- 46:03Speaker 14: do this apology. The latest on this morning's papers over
- 46:06Speaker 14: here is that the BBC has said they are ready
- 46:08Speaker 14: to apologize, but he has to accept that apology. It
- 46:11Speaker 14: has to be a suitable form of apology, otherwise he's
- 46:14Speaker 14: going to sue them into oblivion. You know, this isn't
- 46:16Speaker 14: a time for the BBC to get brave because they're
- 46:18Speaker 14: getting brave with our money.
- 46:20Speaker 1: We all have to pay for the BBC.
- 46:22Speaker 14: So don't dare say, oh, you know what, actually we'll
- 46:25Speaker 14: fight it in the course.
- 46:26Speaker 1: No, you won't.
- 46:27Speaker 14: Just apologize to him, pay him a bit maybe and
- 46:30Speaker 14: then and then we don't have to We don't have
- 46:32Speaker 14: to fuck the bill for.
- 46:33Speaker 1: The billion dollars that you might have to pay him.
- 46:35Speaker 14: You know, it's a it's a complete concersion, but it's
- 46:37Speaker 14: classic BBC. They make a mess and then we the
- 46:40Speaker 14: British public have to pay for it, and it appears
- 46:43Speaker 14: to be no kind of self reflection on this. You know,
- 46:47Speaker 14: it's just another BBC scandal, isn't it.
- 46:51Speaker 1: Yeah, But what amazes me Patrick is that everywhere you
- 46:54Speaker 1: look at seems our ABC, Canada's public brooadcast, your public broadcast,
- 47:03Speaker 1: America's public broadcaster, which is much smaller. I got there
- 47:06Speaker 1: but now get captured by the left. How on earth
- 47:10Speaker 1: does this happen? And then they you know, they're the
- 47:12Speaker 1: mainstream suddenly and it's up to private companies like you know,
- 47:17Speaker 1: gb News to offer a conservative alternative. How does this happen?
- 47:23Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, the problem with the BBC is they don't
- 47:25Speaker 14: realize their own left wing bias. Every single time a
- 47:29Speaker 14: news or politics presenter leaves the BBC, what they do
- 47:32Speaker 14: is they set up a podcast and then they have
- 47:34Speaker 14: some kind of pseudo coming out ceremony where they shock
- 47:38Speaker 14: horror revealed that they've actually been a massive lefty all along,
- 47:41Speaker 14: and we're like, well.
- 47:42Speaker 1: We know, we know that you have been.
- 47:44Speaker 14: There is institutional bias there, unquestionably, and we've seen it
- 47:48Speaker 14: not just with President Trump but also with things that
- 47:50Speaker 14: have been pushing about the pro transagender, things about the climate,
- 47:53Speaker 14: things about immigration, things about asylum seekers, you name it.
- 47:56Speaker 14: The BBC's ticking all of that, Bingo can't but they
- 47:59Speaker 14: don't seem to be able to to to actually spot
- 48:02Speaker 14: it about themselves. So you know, now it's being called out,
- 48:06Speaker 14: they don't particularly like it. But you're right, there are
- 48:08Speaker 14: now alternative sources of media and you know, people like GPS,
- 48:11Speaker 14: so people could hold up hold up the reports side
- 48:15Speaker 14: by side there. But yeah, clearly Trump is not is
- 48:18Speaker 14: not standing for this anymore. Is he decided to put
- 48:20Speaker 14: his foot down on it and the BBC is going
- 48:21Speaker 14: to have to confront some dangerous home Trew is the
- 48:23Speaker 14: only thing I will say quickly, Andrew is their response
- 48:25Speaker 14: to this left wing by a scandal has been for
- 48:28Speaker 14: the only right wing person there to step down and
- 48:32Speaker 14: for sorry, and there is another right wing person as well,
- 48:36Speaker 14: and they are they are now they are now thinking
- 48:38Speaker 14: of sacking him as well.
- 48:40Speaker 1: So brilliant. Yeah, great, I wish we had people slipping down,
- 48:44Speaker 1: Patrick Christis, thank you so much. Indeed, let's it for me.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Sherry maxing up next with a real well deserved rebuttal
- 48:51Speaker 1: to people trying to driver off the air better listen,
- 48:54Speaker 1: good night,