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- 0:00Over 82 million prescriptions of levothyroxine or Synthroid are prescribed every
- 0:05single year just in the United States.
- 0:07And chances are, if you are listening to this podcast, Health with Hashimoto's,
- 0:12you might have Hashimoto's, you might have hypothyroidism, and you might be
- 0:16one of the people who are taking a prescription of levothyroxine.
- 0:20So I thought we should chat about what it is, how to take it to make sure that
- 0:25you're taking it correctly and just talk about it in general,
- 0:29especially for new listeners who are maybe brand new to Synthroid or Levothyrox.
- 0:35So if we have not met yet, I'm Esther.
- 0:37I am a registered nurse. I'm a holistic health educator. I have four boys.
- 0:41I homeschool two of them. Two of them go to a charter school.
- 0:44My husband and I and boys live in Minnesota where it is cold and dark, but I love it.
- 0:51I've been a nurse for over 20 years now and worked in the emergency department most of my career.
- 0:57And so I can tell you without even second guessing myself that levothyroxine
- 1:02is one of the most common medications prescribed because when checking people
- 1:06into the emergency department, we always ask about their med list.
- 1:09And so many people are on levothyroxine. Like my fingers can type it out just by muscle memory.
- 1:15So many people are on it. And I also learned while working in the ER,
- 1:18that it is the number one medication that people say, I have to take the brand name Synthroid.
- 1:24I cannot take a generic levothyroxine. And I was like, okay.
- 1:27You know, enough people told me that, that I didn't look it up.
- 1:30I just said, okay, a lot of people are mentioning this, you know,
- 1:33different states. I worked in multiple different states. Like this is a common thing.
- 1:37It must be real, right? And I never questioned why.
- 1:41I honestly didn't even know a lot about levothyroxine. I knew that it was for
- 1:45hypothyroid, but I couldn't tell you a ton about it.
- 1:48In the emergency department, I don't have to worry about when I give a medication
- 1:52and I'm not giving people their daily medications. That's what you do when somebody
- 1:56is admitted to the hospital.
- 1:58And in the emergency department, ideally, we are not admitting patients.
- 2:02We're not keeping them for days at a time.
- 2:04Now, of course, emergency departments are way overloaded and there is some of
- 2:08that and it's not cool, but that's the broken healthcare system.
- 2:12Today, we're talking about you, your health, and your Synthroid or your Levothyroxine.
- 2:16So it is a very common medication and why do people take it?
- 2:20Let's start with that question.
- 2:22Why do people take Synthroid or Levothyroxine? Now, in this episode,
- 2:27I will probably say Synthroid.
- 2:30You might be taking a different version.
- 2:33All levothyroxines are T4. So Synthroid is a T4 medication.
- 2:40As I have said before, if you've listened to the first couple of episodes.
- 2:43Like one through 10, you got all the basics.
- 2:46And then I repeated a lot of those most common things in episodes like 100 through 110.
- 2:51I tried to give you the basics. So if you've listened to those,
- 2:54you know that your thyroid produces T4.
- 2:57In your body, that T4 is converted to T3, which is what your cells need to use.
- 3:04That's the active form of the thyroid medication.
- 3:06So Synthroid is the T4.
- 3:09And when do you use it? When is it prescribed? It's prescribed when your TSH is out of whack.
- 3:16Now your TSH is your brain telling your body, I need more thyroid hormone. I need more energy.
- 3:23And so then your thyroid reacts by producing more T4, at least ideally, right?
- 3:32So if your TSH is too high, that means your brain is like hitting the light switch a lot of times.
- 3:38You know, when your power goes off, you hit the light switch a couple of times
- 3:41to see if it'll turn back on. Well, that's your TSH.
- 3:44Your light switch is turning back on. Your body is like flipping that light
- 3:47switch up saying, hey, can I have more energy? Can I have more energy?
- 3:50So ideally, if your TSH is over three, then your provider is helping you address
- 3:59why your body is not getting enough thyroid hormone.
- 4:03Why is your brain asking for more T4?
- 4:07And at that time, your provider might prescribe some Synthroid or Levothyroxine.
- 4:13Now they might also prescribe a blend.
- 4:16So Levothyroxine is just T4. There are other forms.
- 4:21The biggest one is armor, and that is a blend of T4 with T3.
- 4:26Like I said, your body, your thyroid produces T4, and then the rest of your
- 4:31body converts that to T3 so that your body, your cells can use it.
- 4:36So some people, if that conversion is not happening well, then you will be on
- 4:41a blended medication so you get the T4 and the T3.
- 4:45That is up to your provider on how he or she wants to prescribe and how you
- 4:51are responding to your medications.
- 4:53So we talked about Synthroid. It is T4. And why do you have it?
- 4:57It's because usually your TSH is elevated.
- 5:01Sometimes it's if your T4 is too low, like clearly on your labs,
- 5:05we can see that you don't have enough T4.
- 5:08But typically, it's because of your TSH.
- 5:12And then how do you know if you need Synthroid or another medication?
- 5:15Again, we're looking at your labs, but also your symptoms.
- 5:19Now there's a lot of, I don't know, talk in my circles, the circles that I go
- 5:25through of like, can you just rely on labs?
- 5:28Because I get people asking me like, my labs are kind of normal, but I feel really bad.
- 5:32Or other people will say that they're feeling great and their labs are abnormal.
- 5:37Either way, you have to have this delicate dance between your labs and your symptoms.
- 5:45And it is up to your provider to listen to you and to look at the whole picture.
- 5:51We can't just look at the data and we can't just look at the symptoms.
- 5:55You have to look at both. I cannot tell you how many times in my 20 years as
- 6:00a nurse, 20 plus, I've been told, don't just look at the monitor.
- 6:05You have to look at your patient.
- 6:06It's the same thing with labs. You can't just look at your labs.
- 6:09You have to look at the whole picture.
- 6:11If your provider is looking at just the labs, it is time to look for another
- 6:16provider. And there are a lot of options out there.
- 6:19Personally, I go to, I say go, I quote, go to a virtual nurse practitioner.
- 6:26I love my quote clinic. So telehealth NP is where I go.
- 6:32And there are several different nurse practitioners there. You can just type it in telehealth NP.
- 6:37I'll try to put the link down in the show notes. And everybody I have seen there looks at both.
- 6:43They will ask me about my labs and I get my labs drawn either at a local clinic
- 6:47or I will order my own labs. And I do have an episode about that.
- 6:51It is episode 39. I explain how to get your own labs, how to order your own labs.
- 6:56This is available in almost all 50 states.
- 7:00I cannot say that it's available in all countries.
- 7:03Everybody regulates a little bit differently.
- 7:05So episode 39 is how to order your own labs. Anyway, I go, quote,
- 7:09go to my virtual nurse practitioner.
- 7:12They ask about the labs, they upload them or give them all of the data.
- 7:15They ask about my symptoms and then they put those two together to look at the whole picture.
- 7:21I love this. I did go to a clinic in person at the end of 2024 and I got my
- 7:27labs drawn and they came back and my TSH was elevated.
- 7:32And at that point in time, I encountered the broken medical system because the
- 7:36nurse practitioner, no, the PA that I had seen, I really loved her.
- 7:39I loved her view of my health.
- 7:42I loved our conversation. She was asking really good questions.
- 7:45She was looking at the whole picture. But when my labs came back elevated,
- 7:48she kicked me off to an endocrinologist.
- 7:51She was not going to prescribe because our healthcare system is broken and everybody is in silos.
- 7:59So she couldn't prescribe my levothyroxine.
- 8:02She had to send me to an endocrinologist. So I called endocrinology through
- 8:07the clinic where I have my insurance.
- 8:09And they're like, oh, we can get you in in about two and a half months. I was like, yeah, no.
- 8:13So I looked at my typical nurse practitioner, telehealthnp.com,
- 8:18I think it's .com, and they could get me in like the next day.
- 8:22So where do you think I went? Of course, I went to the one that's looking at the whole picture.
- 8:26They asked me about my labs, they asked me about my symptoms,
- 8:28and then they prescribed what I needed. I didn't have to wait two and a half
- 8:31months to go see an endocrinologist.
- 8:34Okay, so there's my little rant for this episode.
- 8:37See somebody who will look at the whole picture, who will look at your labs,
- 8:41who will listen to your symptoms, and who can prescribe. Is that an endocrinologist a lot of times?
- 8:46Yes. Is it always an endocrinologist? Nope, as my story just indicated.
- 8:51So how long does it take to feel better after starting Synthroid?
- 8:55That is the next question.
- 8:56First of all, what kind of symptoms are you going to have? Well,
- 9:00if your TSH is elevated, you're going to have a lot of those hypothyroid symptoms.
- 9:04So you're going to feel really sluggish. That might be physical fatigue.
- 9:08It might be mental fatigue. It might be depression. It might be your metabolism is down.
- 9:14There's a lot of different things that people experience when their thyroid function is down.
- 9:19And again, if your thyroid function is down, your TSH, how much your brain is
- 9:25asking for more thyroid, that's going to be elevated.
- 9:28So if your TSH is elevated, then your thyroid function is down and you're going
- 9:34to want to start on, or maybe your provider will want you to start on some levothyroxine.
- 9:40How long does it take to feel better?
- 9:42Generally, about six to eight weeks or maybe four to six weeks.
- 9:48It's in that one to two month range where we expect to see some changes And
- 9:54then your provider is going to want you to redo your lab work to see how your
- 9:59body is responding, especially when.
- 10:02Personally, now this is not coming from a typical provider that I saw,
- 10:07you know, this is me talking to you with a lot of reading and common sense.
- 10:12We want to know if your T4 from the medication is being converted to T3, right?
- 10:19Of course, because when your body or the medication has T4, then your body is
- 10:26supposed to convert that to T3, which is the active form of thyroid hormone.
- 10:30And that's what your body uses.
- 10:32So if you started supplementing or taking a medication that's T4,
- 10:38we want to make sure that it's being used appropriately by your body.
- 10:43So this is the point where you need to have some labs done, including a reverse T3.
- 10:50Not all people are going to order this. In fact, they probably won't if it's
- 10:55a traditional health, broken healthcare care provider.
- 11:00They just don't know. Or it's not recommended by their computer system that spits out the lab sets.
- 11:09Maybe they're just going to order the TSH. When I am having this checkup,
- 11:14when I'm looking to see, hey, how is the Synthroid working in my body?
- 11:18I want to see, yes, my TSH. Of course, I want to see that.
- 11:22But I also want to see my free T4. I want to see my free T3.
- 11:29I want to see my reverse T3.
- 11:32I want to see all of these because I want to know, you know,
- 11:35if how much T4 I have now in my body, now that I'm supplementing with a medication.
- 11:39I want to see how much T3 I have in my body, how much is being converted,
- 11:44how much of that T4 is being converted.
- 11:46I also really want to see my reverse T3 because the reverse T3 is how much of
- 11:52that T4 was converted to the brake system.
- 11:55Instead of converting it to the gas pedal, the T3.
- 12:00Your body can convert the T4 to the brake system, which is, hold on,
- 12:05we need to prioritize rest, we need to prioritize sleep, we need to prioritize time to heal.
- 12:12So I am not going to convert to We don't need more gas.
- 12:17We need to slow down and heal.
- 12:20And that number to me is very significant.
- 12:23That number to me, it says, I need to prioritize helping my body heal.
- 12:30So I want to see that reverse T3. Now, every provider is not going to do that.
- 12:37That is up to you to ask for it.
- 12:39And hopefully your provider is on board.
- 12:42So that is going back to that question of how long does it take to feel better?
- 12:46How long until your labs change?
- 12:48Sometimes it can take people like up to a year to get their dose dialed in.
- 12:53And then it could even change after that. So you're going to,
- 12:57you know, be on your dose of Synthroid for one to two months,
- 12:59you're going to get your labs checked, and then it might adjust your Synthroid
- 13:03levels beyond one or two months, and then, you know, check it.
- 13:07Now there's different things that can play into this. If you have gone through
- 13:11the Holistic Hashimoto's course, then you know different ways that you can support
- 13:15your body so that your body can do what your body is supposed to do, which is heal.
- 13:20And so if you feel like your body is getting stronger, healthier.
- 13:24Like your thyroid might be doing better, you might have had a stable synthroid
- 13:30dose for months or even years.
- 13:32And all of a sudden, you feel like you might be over medicated.
- 13:35And that's because your thyroid is working a little better. That is always the
- 13:40goal. Or maybe you implemented some new therapy.
- 13:43We're going to talk about red light therapy in a couple episodes.
- 13:47And research tells us that when you're using red light therapy,
- 13:51your thyroid can start working better and people have been able to reduce or
- 13:56even eliminate their Synthroid dose.
- 13:58So I already talked about the symptoms of low thyroid.
- 14:02And then if you're looking at too much thyroid hormone, they would be opposite.
- 14:06So, you know, if I just said you might have too much thyroid,
- 14:10if you're taking Synthroid or Levothyroxine and you're healing,
- 14:14well, then you would be feeling things like the number one thing I hear about is heart palpitations.
- 14:19So like your heart fluttering or it feels, it just feels wrong in your chest.
- 14:24That is It's probably the number one thing I hear. Also just your heart going too fast.
- 14:29You know, hypothyroid. We talked about depression. Well, hyperthyroid,
- 14:32a lot of times people feel more anxious and people will feel excessively sweaty.
- 14:37People will have their metabolism go too high. And I know you're thinking,
- 14:42oh, great, Esther, I want that.
- 14:43I want to lose weight. There are healthier ways to lose weight.
- 14:46Giving yourself too much thyroid hormone is not healthy. we do not want that.
- 14:52So let's get your thyroid hormone in an ideal range.
- 14:59Okay, so the next question would be, how do you take your levothyroxine or your Synthroid?
- 15:04And a lot of people wonder, can I take it with coffee? So let's answer both of those questions.
- 15:10Number one, you want to take your levothyroxine to mimic what your body would do.
- 15:15And your body releases T4 T4 in the morning is right before you wake up in that time.
- 15:22And that's actually one of the things that helps your body wake up is the release
- 15:26of different hormones, including T4.
- 15:29And it tells your body, hey, it's time to get up. It's time to wake up.
- 15:31So you want to mimic that.
- 15:33You're going to take your Synthroid right when you wake up.
- 15:37Personally, my husband and I have two different sleep schedules. He works overnight.
- 15:42And so a lot of times when he is not working, he will come to bed really late
- 15:47at night or, you know, really early in the morning.
- 15:50And if I wake up when he comes to bed, I will take it then because it's about
- 15:53an hour or two before I'm going to get up.
- 15:55And so I'll just take my Synthroid at that time.
- 15:58I always, I don't know about you, but my little medication bottle,
- 16:03it has the cap that's reversible.
- 16:05And I think, you know, one side is easier to open, but I reverse it.
- 16:10So it's a little cup at the top of the cap and I pop my Synthroid in there.
- 16:14And that way in the morning, I don't have to remember, did I take it or not?
- 16:18I look at my little cap of the medication bottle and if it has a little Synthroid
- 16:22in it, then I know I haven't taken it yet.
- 16:24If it's empty, then I know that in the early morning hours when I wasn't quite awake, I took it.
- 16:31So you're going to take it first thing in the morning. You're going to take
- 16:34it with water. You're not going to take it with any other medications.
- 16:37You're not going to take it with any other supplements. You're not going to
- 16:40take it with any caffeine.
- 16:42That includes your coffee. It also includes tea.
- 16:45You're not going to take your Synthroid with caffeine because it changes the
- 16:50absorption rate. It changes your gut.
- 16:53So you take your Synthroid with water.
- 16:56And then comes, I think, the hardest part is you have to wait an hour.
- 17:00Now for me, I am not a morning person. I put my alarm clock until the very last
- 17:06second. I know exactly how long it takes me to get up, get dressed,
- 17:10get my breakfast, and get the kids out the door to school.
- 17:13I know exactly like down to the minute.
- 17:17And when I started on Synthroid, I was really upset about it because now I couldn't do that anymore.
- 17:23I am a person who needs breakfast. I don't function on no breakfast.
- 17:26And so extending that out was, that was the hardest part for me.
- 17:31And that's when I was brainstorming with my husband, I was like,
- 17:34how can I do this? Because I need to eat breakfast.
- 17:37And he's the one who suggested, why don't you take it when you wake up in the
- 17:41middle of the night when I come to the bed?
- 17:43And so that's worked perfectly. On nights when I sleep solid through the night
- 17:48and I don't wake up, then I do have to wait that hour before breakfast.
- 17:52Now, some pharmacists or some places will tell you that 30 minutes is all you
- 17:57have to wait before you eat.
- 17:59If you look at the research, they have done research on if you take your Synthroid
- 18:03at bedtime, four hours after your last intake, or if you take it 30 minutes
- 18:09before eating or 60 minutes before eating in the morning.
- 18:13There is a difference in how your body reacts to those three things.
- 18:17And all of the research that I have looked at about these things indicates that
- 18:2160 minutes on an empty stomach is the ideal way to take your Synthroid.
- 18:26But also consistently is the ideal way to take your Synthroid.
- 18:30So if you always take it at bedtime on an empty stomach, it's been four hours
- 18:35since your last meal, then you want to make sure that you're always doing it that way.
- 18:39And then you're checking your labs to make sure that that is good and you're
- 18:43keeping the same schedule, which leads me to what if you miss a dose?
- 18:49If you miss a dose, you want to get back on your schedule as soon as possible.
- 18:53So let's say you normally take your medication at six o'clock in the morning
- 18:56and at 10 o'clock in the morning, you realize, oh my goodness,
- 18:59I missed my Synthroid. You're going to take it right then.
- 19:01If you realize like at bedtime that you missed it, maybe you're not going to
- 19:06take it then because you're going to take it in the morning.
- 19:08You want to take it as close to when you remember, but also as close to your
- 19:13normal time as possible.
- 19:15It is really important for your body's function that you're taking your Synthroid at the normal time.
- 19:20And I'll answer one more frequently asked question before I sign off.
- 19:23We could definitely continue this conversation over in the school community,
- 19:27S-K-O-O-L.com. come over to the Health with Hashimoto's community and ask your
- 19:32Synthroid questions there because you know a lot of people in there have personal
- 19:35experience and I am in there too answering questions.
- 19:38So the last question I will answer
- 19:39about Synthroid or Libothyroxine is how long do I need to take this?
- 19:43For a lot of people it is the rest of their life because if your thyroid is
- 19:46not producing enough thyroid hormone you need thyroid hormone to function.
- 19:50Every single cell in your body needs the thyroid hormone in order to like turn on.
- 19:55It's like the ignition switch. So you need to have the thyroid hormone.
- 19:59If your thyroid is not producing it itself, then you need to supplement with
- 20:03that prescription medication.
- 20:05So to answer that question, you might be taking it for the rest of your life.
- 20:09If you heal, if your thyroid starts doing what your thyroid is supposed to do.
- 20:14Then at that time you can check your labs, you can talk to your provider,
- 20:18you can wean down on your Synthroid and maybe go off of it entirely.
- 20:22But that is only if your thyroid is working because you absolutely need thyroid
- 20:27hormone to function well.
- 20:29Do not take yourself off of your Synthroid. Always look for your labs.
- 20:34Always have a conversation with your provider.
- 20:36You do need thyroid hormone in order to function. So make sure that you are doing things safely.
- 20:43Come over to the school community and let's have a conversation about this.
- 20:46Don't forget that next week we are meeting with the pharmacist over in the school community.
- 20:52The pharmacist who talked about LDN. He can answer all of your questions about LDN live.
- 20:59Make sure to come over to the school community so that you can get in on that
- 21:03opportunity. I will see you over there.
- 21:05This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only.
- 21:09Please discuss any concerns and plans with your trusted healthcare professional.
- 21:13If you found this episode helpful, will you please share it with a friend? I'll see you next week.
- 21:18Music.