Latest / TDUK / The Audible on TDUK Season 2 Episode 6
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- 0:10Hey baby.
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- 0:51>> Hello everyone. Welcome in. It's the
- 0:54Audible once again. We are here. We are
- 0:56back. You may notice a little difference
- 0:58this week though. As you can see, this
- 1:00is not Ste. This is Lee. We're keeping
- 1:03We're keeping the asinance. Um Lee, how
- 1:05have you been? It's been a while since
- 1:06we've seen you on the Audible. How's
- 1:08things, mate?
- 1:09>> Things are good. I'm back in the UK
- 1:10after being overseas for a few weeks. Um
- 1:13I know some people who watch the the
- 1:14Monday night huddle will uh will have
- 1:16missed me during the last sort of few
- 1:18weeks a few few weeks of the season, but
- 1:20um I'm back. Obviously, this is this is
- 1:22where we uh where I started my um my
- 1:25sort of podcast sort of exploration last
- 1:28year with Steve and Matteo and and now
- 1:30I'm back on the Audible. So, this is
- 1:32this is great. This is amazing.
- 1:34>> No, we're glad to have you back. Um and
- 1:37we're looking forward to a bumper show
- 1:38this week. There's been a lot of crazy
- 1:41stuff happening in the NFL since the
- 1:43start of the season and we have got a
- 1:44lot to say about it. Um, but as as with
- 1:47every week uh in September, we're just
- 1:49going to do a little little shout
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- 1:53if you're in the UK, 116123, Samaritans
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- 2:04I think that's that's uh let's just
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- 2:07That looks right to me. Um, we don't do
- 2:10enough to talk about this in sport. We
- 2:12don't do enough to talk about it in
- 2:14general. Um, and as blo as well, I think
- 2:16we need to do a better job of opening up
- 2:19and talking about these kind of things
- 2:20because we don't want to keep losing
- 2:23people to suicide. We want to we want
- 2:25to, you know, break the cycle, break the
- 2:27stigma around it. So, if if that
- 2:29requires us getting in touch with
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- 2:33at TDUK. There will always be somebody
- 2:35to sit and listen to you and we'd much
- 2:37rather sit and have a chat than than,
- 2:40you know, the other things. So, yeah,
- 2:42remember those numbers. We'll cover it
- 2:44again at the end, but let's begin with
- 2:48the headlines for this week in the
- 2:50opening drive. Now, we've got a few
- 2:53things this week, uh, Lee, and the first
- 2:56one we're going to look at is the
- 2:57biggest week 2 result being the Panthers
- 3:00going 34-3 against the Falcons. Did you
- 3:02watch this game? And what do you think
- 3:05about it?
- 3:07>> Um, I I I did I did catch snippets of
- 3:09this game. Um, it's it was it was a bit
- 3:12of a
- 3:14you know, a bit of a shock win really,
- 3:15wasn't it really? Um, yeah, I
- 3:20I mean, it's it's interesting because we
- 3:23are still still so early on in the
- 3:25season. We're still trying to find out
- 3:27who those dominant teams are, who's
- 3:29looking good, who which players are seem
- 3:32to be, you know, firing on all cylinders
- 3:34just at the right time. And um yeah,
- 3:37it's it's definitely a sort of an
- 3:40interesting score that one. Um, yeah.
- 3:42What do you make of it?
- 3:44>> I I am backing the Panthers to be
- 3:46honest. Bryce Young seems to have come
- 3:49out the gates really well. Obviously,
- 3:50they're they're one and one. They lost
- 3:52the first game. They did ship a lot of
- 3:54points, but offensively they looked
- 3:56good. I think that he's turned a bit of
- 3:59a corner. He's got a couple of receivers
- 4:01now. McMillan and Koko has had a bit of
- 4:03a breakout. He's shown that he's solid.
- 4:05the running game I thought would be
- 4:07worse with them losing um Rico Dao but
- 4:10Chuba Hubard seems to have stepped up
- 4:12and and filled that gap quite nicely. So
- 4:15in a division where you can make the
- 4:17playoffs with an eight and nine record I
- 4:20think they look in pole position well
- 4:22maybe not quite pole position with the
- 4:23Saints being about but they're in a good
- 4:25spot. Yeah, I mean this is I mean it's
- 4:29historically the the you know the NFC
- 4:31South has been
- 4:33a a sort of a
- 4:36a joke sort of conference to be in. And
- 4:39I I I think it's I think you're right.
- 4:41You know the when you look at the
- 4:43Saints, the Panthers,
- 4:45um you know, the Bucks, uh it's it's
- 4:50it's been anybody's anybody's sort of
- 4:52season obviously the it came down to the
- 4:54Bucks or the Panthers last year. Um and
- 4:56and the Panthers seem to be making
- 4:59really good headway in into this season.
- 5:01You know, they're still they're still
- 5:02one and one on the season, but they've
- 5:04had some they've had two really good
- 5:06solid games coming out of this. Um and
- 5:08and like you say, Bryce Young is looking
- 5:10really good. Um Chuba Hubbed is
- 5:12obviously he he has been, you know, sort
- 5:15of reliable running back for for a
- 5:17period of time. Um,
- 5:20yeah, I just I just, you know, they
- 5:22obviously beat up a very sort of
- 5:25disadvantaged Falcons team. We're
- 5:27obviously going to talk about um you
- 5:28know their game
- 5:30um and who's coming in the in the
- 5:33quarterback position, but you know when
- 5:34you got when you got the likes of it's
- 5:36Cooper Rush, isn't it that currently you
- 5:38quarterback last last time um you know
- 5:40the last two games he's he's been a
- 5:43backup QB
- 5:45and you know he's never really been a
- 5:47the starter for for any team. So,
- 5:50>> um, you know, when you lose, you know,
- 5:53tour and when you lose PennX, you know,
- 5:55you're going to your third string sort
- 5:57of quarterback to to get you through the
- 5:59first two games of the season, you know,
- 6:00you're bound to struggle and obviously
- 6:03the Falcons Hall 200 and two is is
- 6:04really sort of,
- 6:07you know, is not a shock st from what
- 6:11we've seen.
- 6:13>> No, I I I agree. I I think there's, you
- 6:16know, like you say, it's it's a it's a
- 6:18joke division. I I always, you know,
- 6:20it's I always call it the worst division
- 6:22in football, which it might not be this
- 6:25year, weirdly. Um, but welcome in Nathan
- 6:28on Instagram and also Matteo. Every
- 6:31week, same thing, up the Denver Broncos
- 6:33on Facebook, but [laughter]
- 6:35you know, it is what it is. Hello, mate.
- 6:38How you doing? Um, we'll run through a
- 6:40couple of the headlines. Three
- 6:41quarterbacks went down this week. three
- 6:43important quarterbacks. Jaden Daniels to
- 6:45a dislocated elbow. Uh Caleb Williams to
- 6:48what looked like a career-ending injury
- 6:50from the way that he was trying to get
- 6:51off the field, but he's just torn he's
- 6:53not torn his hamstring. He's strained
- 6:54his hamstring and he'll be back by week
- 6:56three. Um looking likely. Um and then we
- 7:00also had Oh, who else went down? There
- 7:03was another one. Uh
- 7:07>> Jackson Dart.
- 7:08>> That's the one. Jackson Dart, who looks
- 7:09like he's going to be gone for the
- 7:10season. So,
- 7:13>> what do you think the impacts on those
- 7:14three teams are going to be with their
- 7:17key players going down this early in the
- 7:19season?
- 7:21>> I think it's
- 7:23it was it was it's very strange how, you
- 7:25know, two of the quarterbacks have both
- 7:26come from the NFC East. You know, my
- 7:28Philadelphia Eagles and the and the
- 7:30Cowboys are probably rubbing their hands
- 7:31together
- 7:32>> looking forward to, you know, to backup
- 7:34QBs jumping on the field. I think we've
- 7:36got Mariota for for the Commanders and I
- 7:40have no idea who's the backup for the uh
- 7:42for the for the for the Giants, but
- 7:44>> I think it's James Winston.
- 7:46>> They're backups. Jameson Winston. So,
- 7:48it's James Winston. Okay. He can
- 7:49probably hold his own.
- 7:51>> Um Mario, he's hot and cold. Yeah, very
- 7:54much so. you know, one day you'll get a
- 7:56great great sort of uh showing up and
- 7:58then the other day you're going to get
- 8:01if you got defense on your fantasy going
- 8:03up against Washington, you're going to
- 8:04be having a field day. Um
- 8:07so yeah, I mean nobody likes to see
- 8:10that, you know, the starting
- 8:11quarterbacks go down and especially this
- 8:13early on in the season. Um you know,
- 8:15two, you know, really sort of positive
- 8:19teams from last week coming out. Um, you
- 8:21know, the Commanders narrowly losing to
- 8:23the Eagles. Um, you know, the Giants
- 8:26putting up a stellar performance on
- 8:28their first week and then unfortunately,
- 8:32you know, they go down in week two,
- 8:33which, you know, nobody, again, nobody
- 8:35wants to see. Even though I'm an Eagles
- 8:37fan, I don't want to see, you know,
- 8:39QB1's, you know, dropping out. You want
- 8:41to see good, you know, the best against
- 8:43the best. And, um, you know, it's it's
- 8:46disappointing for sure. Um, I'd love to
- 8:49see
- 8:50them make a full recovery and obviously
- 8:53um, you know, try and get back to the
- 8:54field as quickly as possible. Um, with
- 8:56with Caleb Williams, yeah, I think it's
- 8:58just I think he he probably overplayed
- 9:00it in his head. Um, and, you know, when
- 9:03it was just a minor hamstring sort of
- 9:07tear or pull or whatever the the di full
- 9:09diagnosis is. Um, I think, you know,
- 9:11he's going to be he's obviously going to
- 9:13spend a couple of weeks recovering. Um,
- 9:15and he he'll be back. he'll be back
- 9:17fighting um in a in a really good solid
- 9:20sort of, you know, Ben Johnson sort of
- 9:22offense that he's got cooking up there.
- 9:25So, yeah, that's he's going to be fine.
- 9:28>> Yeah, I I think it's handed the the the
- 9:30East to Philly. Uh I don't think that
- 9:32the Cowboys are going to be able to to
- 9:34knock them off their perch. Um but it's
- 9:37a shame because Jackson Dark came out
- 9:39week one looked really good and looked
- 9:41like he he'd almost fixed a load of his
- 9:44errors from from his first season. and
- 9:46he looked a lot more composed in the
- 9:47pocket. He was making less rass
- 9:49decisions and to see him go down like
- 9:52that is a is a massive shame. Jaden
- 9:54Daniels looked like that was the same
- 9:56elbow that he that took him out of last
- 9:58season. So Washington just getting no
- 10:01luck with rushing quarterbacks seemingly
- 10:04which is a big
- 10:05>> No. And it it was it was quite funny
- 10:07listening to um to Tom Brady as well
- 10:09cursing on the airways as he as
- 10:11[laughter]
- 10:11>> I think we need more of that. I think we
- 10:13need more of that.
- 10:14>> I think we do. I think it [snorts] just
- 10:15brings a bit more natural sort of, you
- 10:17know, that's a that's a rough break.
- 10:20Obviously, Matteo's watching, so we'll
- 10:22keep our P's and Q's and uh make sure
- 10:24this remains a PG podcast. [laughter]
- 10:26>> Yeah.
- 10:27>> But but that it's it's a shame. And and
- 10:29with the Bears as well, Nathan's just
- 10:31mentioned that Tyson Begent's now in
- 10:33concussion protocol as well, so the
- 10:34Bears are on their third string
- 10:35quarterback this week. So that'll be
- 10:36interesting. But we will talk about that
- 10:39coming up in the preview. Um, other
- 10:41other thing we're going to be talking
- 10:42about a bit later on in the the audible
- 10:44call is which starts meaningful, which
- 10:47starts we overreacting to. So, think
- 10:49about that audience if you got any
- 10:51questions for that later on. Um, but
- 10:53we'll jump into the week two review. As
- 10:56you can see on screen, these are mine
- 10:57and Steve's picks from last week. Uh,
- 11:00I've not done very well with this one. I
- 11:02went seven and nine on my picks this
- 11:04week cuz I I picked with my heart, not
- 11:06with my head on a few of them. But we'll
- 11:08start with the first game on the list.
- 11:10It was the Bills at the Lions on
- 11:12Thursday Night Football. What a first
- 11:14half from Josh Allen. Four rushing
- 11:16touchdowns in the game for him. Um
- 11:18Detroit did come back somewhat. Got it
- 11:21within 10, but just couldn't couldn't
- 11:23take it. It was it was done by the end
- 11:25of the first half, I think. But Lee,
- 11:27what do you think? Is Buffalo's offense
- 11:29looking like the league's most complete
- 11:30unit at the moment, or or do you think
- 11:32it's it's the the teams that they
- 11:34played?
- 11:36I think it's I think it's a reflection
- 11:37on the teams they've played. I think,
- 11:39you know, I I still thinking they're
- 11:41missing that sort of star wide receiver,
- 11:43you know, their sort of go-to wide
- 11:45receiver who's going to who's going to
- 11:47blow up secondaries and and just become
- 11:50open all the time. And I think, you
- 11:53know, as as you mentioned, you know,
- 11:54Josh Allen putting so many points on the
- 11:57board himself,
- 11:58>> making making the plays work. you know,
- 12:01he's got flushed out of the pocket quite
- 12:02a few times and um I think, you know, he
- 12:06he is he is certainly a a quarterback
- 12:09who who is making wide receivers better.
- 12:12>> Yes. Yeah, I agree.
- 12:13>> From his his plays. um you know and I I
- 12:16think you know back in the day when he
- 12:19had Stefon Diggs or you know
- 12:22those sort of stuff you know it gives
- 12:25him the option to you know to to stretch
- 12:27the field out a little bit more and
- 12:29that's then obviously going to in turn
- 12:31free up the you know the space you know
- 12:33behind the line of scrimmage for those
- 12:35sort of crossing routes for the for the
- 12:37for the tight ends and stuff. So I think
- 12:39that that is that is the only piece that
- 12:41they are missing because you know they
- 12:43do look a solid team. Um but yeah
- 12:46absolutely
- 12:47um you know excited to see how how uh
- 12:50how how how this Joe Brady's Buffalo
- 12:54Bills is is going to is going to move
- 12:56forward.
- 12:57>> Yeah, it's it's an interesting one
- 12:59because like you say how long can Josh
- 13:02Allen put points on the board? The
- 13:04defense are allowing a lot of points.
- 13:06They allowed a lot of points to to
- 13:07Houston the week before. 31 to Detroit
- 13:10when you know granted they were quite
- 13:12significantly the game was done. It was
- 13:14garbage time points really. But
- 13:18>> you know James Cook again 135 rushing
- 13:21yards. Can with DJ Moore going down with
- 13:24a shoulder injury. Can they carry the
- 13:26offense between them? I'm not so sure
- 13:29personally, but
- 13:30>> No.
- 13:32>> No. I think I think you're right.
- 13:34>> Yeah. I I mean, we we'll see. Buffalo
- 13:37and Josh Allen somehow keeps himself in
- 13:39MVP conversations every every year. I
- 13:42think he's doing a great start to that
- 13:44campaign again this year. Um but, you
- 13:46know, as as most people will say, when
- 13:48it really matters, he he chokes. Um and
- 13:52hopefully we can see a different Josh
- 13:54Allen in the playoffs this year, maybe.
- 13:56Um next on the list, we have got
- 13:59Carolina 34, Atlanta 3. Um, for this
- 14:04one, I picked Carolina. Steve picked
- 14:07Atlanta. So, look, it doesn't get much
- 14:10better for me after this, so I'll take
- 14:11them where I can. Uh, Carolina
- 14:13absolutely dominated the Falcons. There
- 14:15is no two ways about that. We spoke
- 14:17about it um a bit in the the opening
- 14:19drive, but you know, the quarterback
- 14:22situation for Atlanta was a mess. I
- 14:24mean, it's still not great right now.
- 14:26Um, Cooper Rush struggling. Um, got
- 14:29benched. Jack Strand comes on, throws a
- 14:31pick with his first NFL throw, pick six.
- 14:34Um, so not not good there. Um, but what
- 14:37what do you think? Was it was it a case
- 14:38of Carolina being excellent or Atlanta
- 14:41just being awful?
- 14:43>> I I think it's the latter. I think it is
- 14:46Atlanta,
- 14:47you know,
- 14:49they you can only rely on your star
- 14:51players so much. And you know when
- 14:53you've when you're in that sort of week
- 14:56prep preparation, you know, you're
- 14:58looking at the Falcons going, "Okay,
- 14:59Bejon Robinson, we need to make sure
- 15:01we're taking care of him. We need to
- 15:02make sure we've got uh, you know, all
- 15:05the wide receivers covered." And once
- 15:06you start, you know, taking away those
- 15:09pieces for Cooper Rush um and the other
- 15:12QBs, then then, you know, it gives your
- 15:16defensive line time to then start
- 15:18attacking the the quarterback and um and
- 15:22and you know, start putting pressure on,
- 15:24getting them sacks, getting them off the
- 15:25field, you know, keeping the defense as
- 15:28fresh as possible and and obviously, you
- 15:30know, the offense, Carolina offense
- 15:33coming on the field doing what doing the
- 15:34doing the business and and and making
- 15:37short change of of of a of a really
- 15:40simple win for them. So, they'll they'll
- 15:41take that victory and and definitely
- 15:43look forward to the next game.
- 15:45>> No, I agree. I mean, like I said before,
- 15:47Bryce Young, 287 yards, three touchdowns
- 15:50for him. Uh coming off another good
- 15:52performance against the Bears the week
- 15:54before. I think that Carolina are the
- 15:56team to beat in that division. I think
- 15:58they've got the most complete roster out
- 16:00of the out of the South teams.
- 16:03>> Okay. I'd have said it was the books at
- 16:05the start of the year, but Baker
- 16:07Mayfield looks we've got two sides to
- 16:10Baker Mayfield. He's a bit like Too
- 16:12Faced from Batman. You never know quite
- 16:15what you're going to get. It's a flip of
- 16:16a coin. When he's great, he is
- 16:17unplayable,
- 16:19>> but when he's struggling,
- 16:21>> he's he's one of them kind of like I I
- 16:23liken it to
- 16:25>> There's a few players in for Chelsea. I
- 16:28I'm I'm a Chelsea fan. There's a few
- 16:29players for Chelsea that when they're in
- 16:30form, when they're playing well, you
- 16:32can't touch them. But when they get in
- 16:33their own head,
- 16:35>> they struggle to get out of it. It takes
- 16:36a lot for them to work through that. And
- 16:38that's how I see Baker Mayfield.
- 16:40>> Um,
- 16:41>> losing Mike Evans hasn't helped either
- 16:43because that's that's an incredible
- 16:44safety valve um that you've got. But
- 16:46we'll get on to the to the books in a
- 16:48bit, but next we keep with the South and
- 16:50it's the Saints 24, the Ravens 17. We
- 16:54both had the Ravens, Ste and I did. Um,
- 16:58Baltimore looked like it was done. They
- 17:00were they were 14-3 up and I was like,
- 17:02"Okay, that's it. There's no way that
- 17:04this goes the other way." Um, and then
- 17:08Tyler Shook just turned it around.
- 17:10>> So, is this a case of the Ravens being
- 17:14vulnerable in general or was it just a
- 17:16fourth quarter that cuz I mean, look,
- 17:19they did it last week as well, the
- 17:20Saints, they pulled it back in the
- 17:21fourth quarter. Is is this a game plan
- 17:24thing from them or is it a case of teams
- 17:27just switch off to them because they
- 17:29don't expect anything from them?
- 17:32>> Well, I I think we got to remember, you
- 17:33know, Kell Moore is is he is he is one
- 17:37of those masterminds that people are
- 17:38underrating. He is a he is a very
- 17:40strategic offensiveminded
- 17:43coach
- 17:44>> and I think I think his his ability to
- 17:47to turn the games around in the second
- 17:50you know the second half the the third
- 17:52and fourth quarter and to you know
- 17:55really put the pressure on the
- 17:56opposition and again you're right they
- 18:00they proved that against the lines took
- 18:01the game into overtime
- 18:04you know if they'd have taken that
- 18:07two-point conversion Again, the whole,
- 18:09you know, it would have come out maybe
- 18:10come out a different story, but, you
- 18:12know, they they they lost a two-point
- 18:14conversion. The Lions walk away with a
- 18:16victory. The Saints narrowly miss out.
- 18:18And when I was watching this game,
- 18:19you're absolutely right. You know, the
- 18:20first first half, you know, the first
- 18:22two quarters, you're watching the game,
- 18:24you're like, uh, Derek Henry's, you
- 18:25know, rushing touchdowns, Lamar
- 18:27Jackson's looking hot, everything's
- 18:29looking great. M
- 18:31>> and then that second half hits and you
- 18:34know the Saints seem to be just chipping
- 18:36away moving up the field progressing you
- 18:39know making these these these key sort
- 18:41of uh catches um you know I mentioned
- 18:45before we started the you know the
- 18:46podcast and vele
- 18:48>> it's just a onetwo punch at the moment
- 18:50and then you throw the the tight end
- 18:52Johnson in there it's just it's just and
- 18:54obviously we got to see Alvin Kamar back
- 18:56after after you know a brief a brief
- 18:58sort of absence from the league Um, you
- 19:00know, Kamar's always been, you know, a
- 19:03bit of a favorite of mine. He's he's
- 19:04he's got that swagger about them and he
- 19:06he makes plays when when when the clutch
- 19:08moments are there. Um, but yeah, I I
- 19:11think it's I I think people are sleeping
- 19:13on It's interesting what you said about
- 19:14the Panthers. You know, you think that
- 19:16they're going to win. I think people are
- 19:18sleeping on the Saints right now. I
- 19:20really do. I think the Saints are a
- 19:22really strong team and I think they, you
- 19:25know, they're going to shock a lot of
- 19:26people. obviously beating the Ravens
- 19:29at home as well, you know, is a big
- 19:32fantastic. It is it is a really big sort
- 19:34of win.
- 19:35>> Um, and I'm I'm interested to see, you
- 19:38know, how they how they're going to
- 19:39progress for the rest of the season.
- 19:41>> No, you and me both. I mean, like I say,
- 19:44is it is it Kell Moore almost observing
- 19:47for the first half? Because it like like
- 19:49you know, it happened the week before
- 19:51with Detroit arguably
- 19:53they should have won in in regular time.
- 19:56time there was a penalty given that
- 19:57shouldn't have been they should you know
- 19:59should have been what it was
- 20:00>> but I I I'm I think you're right I think
- 20:03people are underestimating them. I think
- 20:05Kell Moore had a bit of a bad end to his
- 20:08time with the Chargers which has sort of
- 20:11clouded people's view on him a little
- 20:14bit as well.
- 20:15>> Um but yeah, I think the Saints are are
- 20:17one to to keep an eye on. We'll move to
- 20:20a game which I thought was going to be a
- 20:21lot better than it was. Uh the Vikings
- 20:24nine, Chicago three. That's not the
- 20:27score line I was expecting uh before
- 20:29this week started. Um Minnesota's
- 20:33defense once again, Brian Flores showing
- 20:35exactly why he is one of the top
- 20:36defensive coordinators in the league.
- 20:38They run a lot of blitz. They run a hell
- 20:41of a lot of blitz. They like I think
- 20:43against against the Packers it was 82%
- 20:45of their defensive snaps ran out of the
- 20:47blitz. Uh, I don't have the stat for
- 20:49this week, but Caleb Williams was under
- 20:51pressure
- 20:53constantly. The Chicago running game was
- 20:56nullified.
- 20:58Can Minnesota keep winning games though
- 21:00if the offense remains as limited as it
- 21:02is?
- 21:04>> That's a great question. Um, it really
- 21:06is. I think with with you know sticking
- 21:10with Flores for just a moment you know
- 21:13we're obviously saying he he blitzes a
- 21:15lot but the way he disguises those
- 21:17blitzes as well you know it's not just a
- 21:19case of you know we've got the middle
- 21:21lineback middle linebacker running
- 21:23through the A gap and putting the
- 21:24pressure on the QB. We've got we've got
- 21:27stunts on the defensive line and and the
- 21:29weak side linebackers coming all the way
- 21:31around and and jumping through the hole
- 21:33which which the guard has vacated as
- 21:35he's as he's you know following his man
- 21:37around. The stunts are technically and
- 21:40and visually
- 21:42amazing um to watch. Now I know this was
- 21:45a this was a a bit of a wet wet game.
- 21:48you know, you could see that it was it
- 21:49was visibly sort of uh you know, it was
- 21:52it was a hard sort of game to to throw
- 21:54and catch in. Um but you know, we're
- 21:59talking about four field goals here.
- 22:01>> That's that's all that's all the that's
- 22:02all the only points that got put onto
- 22:04this on on the game. And you know, the
- 22:07Vikings with Carson Wentz
- 22:09>> um you know, he's he's he's done well to
- 22:11step up and and to you know, replace
- 22:13Kyle Mara whilst he's on whilst he's on
- 22:16the protocol. Um, you know, and again
- 22:20the first in the Vikings first game
- 22:22again he looked really good, really
- 22:24positive. Um, but yeah, the Bears, you
- 22:28know, it's such a contrast going from
- 22:30week one to week two, you know, to have
- 22:33that many points scored in that first
- 22:35week, you know, it was over nearly a 60
- 22:38burger, wasn't it? It was it was it was
- 22:39nearly 60 points they put on.
- 22:40>> Very, very strong offensive performance
- 22:42week one. And then to go to to three
- 22:45points putting on the board this time
- 22:47around is is it's
- 22:51you know people often say week one you
- 22:53know they week one lies. Um what does
- 22:56week two do to us? You know [laughter]
- 22:58two just week two just throws a spanner
- 23:00in the works and go well everything you
- 23:01thought about week one is is is
- 23:03completely false and this is this is
- 23:04what's going on. Um but I think it was a
- 23:07you know a great divisional matchup. Um
- 23:10you know defensively it was a defensive
- 23:12game. wasn't an offensive game. So, um
- 23:14you know, if you're defensive mind
- 23:16minded, then this is this is definitely
- 23:18a game for you. But, um yeah, this
- 23:20division is is certainly hoting up. Um
- 23:23people when they shouldn't be and yeah,
- 23:25it's absolutely crazy.
- 23:27>> Yeah. I wouldn't have put the Vikings at
- 23:282 and 0 after two weeks and be the only
- 23:302 and 0 team in the division. So,
- 23:32>> yeah.
- 23:33>> Yeah. is and and it's interesting about
- 23:35Minnesota as well because they don't
- 23:36really have any star players along in in
- 23:41any of the defensive sections. They
- 23:43don't have any star tackles. They've not
- 23:45really got any outstanding what people
- 23:48would consider to be top five, top 10
- 23:50linebackers or anyone in the secondary.
- 23:52It's just a really
- 23:54>> like some of some of the parts kind of
- 23:57team which is which is
- 23:59>> going to take them so far. I think
- 24:01they're gonna need better quarterback
- 24:03play. They've got a top arguably best
- 24:07wide receiver in the league and
- 24:10>> not utilizing him. How much is he going
- 24:13to take before he decides he doesn't
- 24:14want to be there anymore cuz he's, you
- 24:16know,
- 24:18>> rightly so, frustrated with the service
- 24:20he's getting. Um, but that will that
- 24:23will be remain to be seen. Next up,
- 24:25we've got the Bengals. Uh, so they came
- 24:27out 26 winners against the Texans.
- 24:31Um, Houston 0 and2, which is again
- 24:33something that I didn't think that I'
- 24:34I'd be saying after the first couple of
- 24:36weeks. The Bengals defense haven't
- 24:38allowed a passing touchdown in the first
- 24:39two games of the season. Um, generated a
- 24:42lot of pressure, which is something that
- 24:44that Bengals defense has been so lax
- 24:47over the the last couple of seasons and
- 24:50and and Joe Burrow's had to win
- 24:53shootouts over and over and over again.
- 24:56and the addition of Dexter Lawrence into
- 24:59that front seems to have changed the way
- 25:01that they play completely. Um,
- 25:04>> are the Bengals one of the teams that we
- 25:05should be taking seriously is my
- 25:06question because I had them as as you
- 25:09know, Zack Taylor being first coach
- 25:10fired when we looked at preseason. Um,
- 25:13so I'm I'm very wrong. Um, but what what
- 25:17what do you think about that one?
- 25:19>> I I think he he was definitely sort of
- 25:21he was on the hot seat, wasn't he? you
- 25:22know, if you know, if he hadn't,
- 25:25>> you know, got off to a good start, you
- 25:26know, there's there was definitely going
- 25:27to be questions, you know, sort of put
- 25:30his in into his direction. Um, I think
- 25:34for me the one takeaway I want to take
- 25:36away from this game was that catch by
- 25:39Jamar Chase,
- 25:40>> that that contortion that he made,
- 25:44>> you know, whilst leaping through the air
- 25:46to twist his body around, catch the
- 25:48ball, put both feet on the ground with a
- 25:50tow drag. I mean that's that's that's up
- 25:53for you know up for a catch of the
- 25:54season for me. That was you know
- 25:57absolutely unbel unbelievable. Um
- 26:00but yeah,
- 26:02it's it's been a shock for to see the
- 26:04Bengals,
- 26:06you know,
- 26:08you know, again,
- 26:10not not just looking at them
- 26:12offensively. We know they've got, you
- 26:13know, Chase, they've got Higgins,
- 26:15they've got um, you know, Yosvich,
- 26:18Yosvich, and and, you know, various
- 26:21other skilled positions, but the
- 26:23defense, it's just
- 26:24>> I think I think we we we, you know, we
- 26:26we looked at them last year and thought,
- 26:29you know, they're they're just a defense
- 26:31away from being a great team.
- 26:33>> Yeah.
- 26:33>> Well, you know, what's happened? They
- 26:37they've always all suddenly just become
- 26:39a relevant team with a with a really
- 26:41good defense. So,
- 26:42>> well, this is it with losing their
- 26:44premier pass rusher as well in Trey
- 26:45Hendrickson going to the Ravens.
- 26:47>> So, I I this is what I mean. At the
- 26:49start of the season, I was like, well,
- 26:50they've lost Trey Hendrickson. Yes, they
- 26:51brought in Dexter to Lawrence, but the
- 26:54issue that they had wasn't that they
- 26:56were leaking too much in the run game.
- 26:58It was it was taking deep deep passes
- 27:01and just not being able to cover it.
- 27:02But,
- 27:04>> they've they've proven me completely
- 27:06wrong, which is, you know, I'm I'm more
- 27:08than happy to see that. like I'm I'm
- 27:10shocked, but we'll see how they get on
- 27:13uh get on in the next few weeks. The
- 27:15Texans as well, 0 and2, which is is, as
- 27:20I say, not what I was expecting. I
- 27:22thought they'd lose to the Bills, but I
- 27:23did think they'd win this. Their defense
- 27:24isn't looking as good as I thought it
- 27:26would. This is one of the defenses that
- 27:28I had down to be, you know, keeping
- 27:31points down more than any more than any
- 27:34other team, but they they've not looked
- 27:36great. Denil Hunter's not looked too
- 27:37great. Will Anderson's looked not the
- 27:40player that I expected him to take that
- 27:42step again. Um,
- 27:44>> but again, we'll see. It could just be
- 27:46that they've played two really strong
- 27:47teams and we'll see them get into the
- 27:49get into the swing of it. One thing we
- 27:51can take from that is CJ Strad has
- 27:53looked okay. He's he's getting lots of
- 27:55yardage. He's he's not making too many
- 27:58mistakes. So, that's one positive they
- 28:00can take from that. Um, we'll move on to
- 28:03the next one. the Patriots um only
- 28:05allowing the Steelers to score three
- 28:07points uh as they scored 20 to win uh to
- 28:10win there.
- 28:11>> New England's defense looked fantastic
- 28:14and Aaron Rogers unfortunately and it
- 28:16makes me really sad but Aaron Rogers
- 28:18looked every bit of his 42 years.
- 28:21[laughter]
- 28:22Um it it was a shame. Um and and I think
- 28:26this is unfortunately the reality. I I
- 28:28wanted it to be a Swan song. I wanted it
- 28:30to be, you know, Rogers goes out MVP
- 28:33season, maybe wins the Super Bowl.
- 28:34That'd be the only time I'd accept it
- 28:36because then he'd have beaten every team
- 28:38in the league if he beats the Packers in
- 28:40the Super Bowl. And I'd be like, be one
- 28:41time I'd be okay with it.
- 28:43>> But I think this is unfortunately the
- 28:44reality. He's he's father time uh always
- 28:48wins. He is undefeated and I think that
- 28:51is the case here. So what what does this
- 28:53say then about the Steelers offense
- 28:54outlook this season? What do you reckon?
- 28:57Um, I mean, you know, there was there
- 29:00was some visible sort of issues with,
- 29:03you know, Aaron Rogers, you know,
- 29:05looking slow in the pocket, not being
- 29:07not being able, you know, to to to get
- 29:09out and, you know, there was a couple of
- 29:11times where being chased out of the
- 29:12pocket and I think he could feel the
- 29:14pressure and just throwing the ball away
- 29:16where, you know, maybe as you said, you
- 29:18know, five, 10 years ago, he may have
- 29:20made a really good play, but um, you
- 29:23know, there was that really big hit, you
- 29:25know, where he just got absolutely
- 29:27sandwiched by two New England Patriots
- 29:29and
- 29:31>> you know you look at a healthy you know
- 29:32a young healthy quarterback and you're
- 29:34like that's going to hurt but Aaron
- 29:36Rogers seems to jump up and and to you
- 29:38know brush it off and and get back into
- 29:40the next next play. Um
- 29:43>> but yeah I mean DK Metaf just he dropped
- 29:47a few balls. He's he's just not looking
- 29:49like you say you know the Steelers that
- 29:51we were we were really hoping for. But
- 29:54hats off to the the Patriots. You know,
- 29:57they obviously narrowly lost uh well,
- 29:59they lost to uh to the opening game to
- 30:01the Seahawks. Um you know, Drake May
- 30:04obviously having those interceptions at
- 30:05the uh in that in that first game. He
- 30:08had a couple of interceptions in this
- 30:10game. So, I think he just he just needs
- 30:12to tidy up a little bit, settle himself
- 30:14down, you know, allow allow himself just
- 30:18a little bit more time in the pocket
- 30:19before he releases that ball. finding
- 30:21those finding his his his his key
- 30:23targets. Obviously, he hasn't got AJ
- 30:25Brown at the moment. Still on IR,
- 30:27>> but when he gets back, I'm sure
- 30:29>> I'm sure, you know, things will settle
- 30:31down for him. And, you know, we are only
- 30:32in the second game of the season. Yes,
- 30:34they walked away with a win. They've won
- 30:36and won the season. Let's just, you
- 30:38know, let's let's not beat down on the
- 30:40on the Patriots on how they're looking,
- 30:42but defensively they're looking they're
- 30:44looking pretty good. So, yeah, happy
- 30:46with that.
- 30:47>> Yeah, I I I think that's right. like
- 30:49Drake May had a you know a pretty okay
- 30:53performance.
- 30:55Yes, he he he still looks a little bit
- 30:57shaky but sort of big completions from
- 31:00him. Um but the defense were extremely
- 31:04good. I mean there's a fumble return
- 31:07touchdown. I think that you know Tvian
- 31:11Henderson looked okay when he came back
- 31:12as well. He got 39 yard rushing
- 31:15touchdown.
- 31:17they struggle or or they it was a very
- 31:20bitty game against Seattle the week
- 31:22prior and arguably they probably should
- 31:25have won that. That was a game that they
- 31:26lost rather than Seattle won is what me
- 31:28and Steve were talking about last week.
- 31:30>> But this week they bounced back and you
- 31:35know showed that they they should be in
- 31:37and around that that AFC top three top
- 31:40four sort of conversation. So yeah
- 31:43really really good bounce back from
- 31:44them. Um, next up, again, something I
- 31:49wasn't expecting to say, but the Green
- 31:51Bay Packers beat the New York Jets in
- 31:53overtime [laughter] after being down
- 31:5617-7 in the fourth quarter. Um, I I just
- 32:01don't really know what to think about
- 32:02the Green Bay Packers this year. It's
- 32:04been very frustrating. Um, Gino Smith
- 32:07had a had a, you know, near-perfect game
- 32:10as far as it goes. He didn't throw an
- 32:11inception. He did what he needed to do.
- 32:13Breeze Hall was held like the the
- 32:15Packers defense looked solid up to a
- 32:17certain point, but once again that
- 32:19offensive line is so bad. There is we
- 32:23we've now got Zack Bakobelle out for the
- 32:25season. He's gone. So, no right tackle.
- 32:28Arguably our best offensive lineman as
- 32:30well. So, it's it's just not it's it's
- 32:33it's not good. Was it like I suppose
- 32:36I've got my view on this, but like I I'm
- 32:39interested for a more objective view.
- 32:41Was it a genuine bounce back or was this
- 32:43just another scrape through and we're
- 32:44going to see?
- 32:45>> No, this one of these.
- 32:47>> Yeah, this this was a scrape through.
- 32:49You know, you've got, you know, the New
- 32:50York Jets are they they've come out a
- 32:54better team than what they were last
- 32:55year.
- 32:56>> Um, you know, they were competitive.
- 32:58Gino Smith is is given a little bit of a
- 33:01spark to the Jets. Um, and and and
- 33:05Aaron Glenn is is doing a fantastic job
- 33:07as as a head coach. I think, you know,
- 33:11we we we I' I've always been a champion
- 33:14the offensive line because being an
- 33:16offensive lineer myself back in the day,
- 33:18you know, you're as only as good as your
- 33:20offensive line. Um, and you know, when
- 33:23you've lost that many guards and
- 33:26tackles, you know, and you you're
- 33:28considering putting Tucker Craft in at
- 33:30tackle because you you run out of
- 33:32lineman, I think you then start asking
- 33:35the question of,
- 33:37>> "All right, maybe we start need to look
- 33:39at the uh the free agency and start
- 33:41bringing some more uh more players into
- 33:42that practice squad and promoting those
- 33:44practice squad guys up into the into the
- 33:46first team." Um, you know, we we we can
- 33:49look at
- 33:50>> the Chargers last year, you know, they
- 33:51still managed to make the playoffs, but
- 33:54you know, how many offensive linemen did
- 33:55they lose? You know, it's
- 33:57>> Well, yeah.
- 33:58>> And it's and you know, when when you
- 33:59know, we we did the audible last year,
- 34:01Matteo was always, you know, always the
- 34:03champion and his next player up, you
- 34:05know, this is your opportunity to shine.
- 34:06You know, you don't you're going to be
- 34:08coming from the practice world into the
- 34:10main team. now is your time to uh to to
- 34:13turn it on and show why you should be in
- 34:15in in the starting lineup, not in the
- 34:17practice squad. So,
- 34:18>> yeah, absolutely.
- 34:19>> But, you know, you are going to have,
- 34:21you know, you're going to have that
- 34:22ability sort of, you know, differential
- 34:26there. Um, but it it can be done. You
- 34:29you you guys can still make the
- 34:30playoffs. You guys can still compete
- 34:33this season. Um, [clears throat]
- 34:35>> it's you just got a you've got a tough
- 34:38tough season ahead. That's all I'm going
- 34:40to say.
- 34:41Yeah, I I I'm [gasps and snorts]
- 34:44We had this discussion last week about
- 34:45Matt Laflur as well. He's
- 34:50it with with all respect to the Jets and
- 34:52I did pick them as my dark horse this
- 34:54season. With all respect to the Jets, it
- 34:57shouldn't be going to overtime against
- 34:58the Jets. I I don't care who you are.
- 35:02There is maybe one team in the league
- 35:03that that I'd be okay with taking them
- 35:05to overtime and that's the Dolphins. and
- 35:07they are equally like
- 35:10>> what we I'd consider to be the worst
- 35:11team in the league at the moment.
- 35:13>> Yes,
- 35:14>> with what we've got in terms of
- 35:15offensive weapons, Watson, Craft, um
- 35:19Reed obviously gone down now. He's out.
- 35:22Um but
- 35:23>> you know, there's a lot of weapons
- 35:26there. Jordan Love is a
- 35:29>> slightly better than serviceable
- 35:31quarterback. He's he's not got a lot of
- 35:33help in terms of the offensive line, so
- 35:35he's having to make quick decisions.
- 35:36He's he's having to play a bit of hero
- 35:38ball, but defensively
- 35:42we should not be allowing the Jets to
- 35:44score 17 points. And that's just that
- 35:47that's that's it. We've got a very good
- 35:49defense. We've got a star-studded
- 35:51defense. And I'm not sure Jonathan Ganon
- 35:55was ever the right hire, but I'm I'm
- 35:59Yeah, I I'm going to I'm going to leave
- 36:01I could talk about the Packers for a
- 36:03while. So, we're going
- 36:04>> I think I think I think things are
- 36:05things are obviously going to change
- 36:06when you you know I mean Parson's just
- 36:08been promoted to the hot list. I believe
- 36:11he's not anymore.
- 36:15So he's he's in that
- 36:17>> he's he's in that process of coming back
- 36:19and I think once you know he's probably
- 36:20a few weeks away getting back onto the
- 36:22team. Once that happens I think you're
- 36:25then going to get a spark that that
- 36:26Ganon needs to to sort of orchestrate
- 36:29that that defense into a into a wrecking
- 36:32ball that potentially could be. It's
- 36:34just you need that playmaker on the edge
- 36:37to to make that happen.
- 36:38>> Well, this is it. I mean Lucas Vaness
- 36:40has stepped up. He's he's had a much
- 36:41better start to this season than than
- 36:44his end to last season with Rashan Garry
- 36:47leaving to the Cowboys as well. So, he's
- 36:48had to step up and be that sort of like
- 36:51premier edge rusher.
- 36:52>> He's looked a lot better. But again,
- 36:54like you say, with Parson's back, that
- 36:55adds another element.
- 36:57>> But the offense I I again I go back to
- 37:00the thing with with Minnesota. If that
- 37:02offensive line doesn't get better and
- 37:03and start to, you know, sing from the
- 37:05same him sheet, it's it's going to be
- 37:08single score games and and that's not
- 37:10it's not sustainable to be honest. But
- 37:13>> we'll move on to a game which I'm sure
- 37:15you've got plenty to talk about. It is
- 37:17the Eagles 24, the Titans 20. A a late
- 37:22push from the Titans and they looked on
- 37:24that last drive like they might take it,
- 37:26but a solid hold from the the Eagles
- 37:29defense. What do you think? What what
- 37:31what are your views on this? Because
- 37:33it's been a couple of weeks where the
- 37:34Eagles have looked shaky going into the
- 37:36into the closing plays of games and
- 37:39looking like they might might be on the
- 37:41wrong side of a one-sore loss. So, where
- 37:43do you see things at the moment? I think
- 37:45it's it's again, you know, we're
- 37:47talking, you know, Shawn Manion, the new
- 37:48offensive coordinator for for the
- 37:50Eagles. You know, he's
- 37:53he he was the the quarterback coach last
- 37:55year for the Eagles. And he's he's
- 37:57finding his thing, and it's it's not
- 37:59going to be a case of, you know, he's
- 38:01he's going to come in. He's not an
- 38:02offensive mastermind like uh like Kell
- 38:04Moore, the Eagles had, you know, for
- 38:06that Super Bowl super bowl when they had
- 38:09a couple years ago.
- 38:11He's he's going to be one of these
- 38:13coaches which is he's going to develop
- 38:15as the season goes on. Now, you know,
- 38:18early on in that game, you know, lost
- 38:20Saquon Barkley to a stinger for the for
- 38:22the first half. Uh, you know, Dallas got
- 38:25us got it has gone out um with I think
- 38:28an ACL or some lower body injury.
- 38:32>> Um, you know, we're missing key players
- 38:34on the offensive line. Landon
- 38:35Dickerson's now on IR. So we we have
- 38:38moving Cam Jer Jurgens to from center to
- 38:41guard and then bringing in the rookie to
- 38:43go in at center. So there's lots of sort
- 38:45of moving things that that happened on
- 38:48in that last week. And you know when you
- 38:51go into a team like the the Titans who
- 38:55you know last year and the last few
- 38:56years have been um you know the worst
- 39:00team in in in football.
- 39:03Um, you know, I think they may have gone
- 39:05into that game a little bit relaxed, a
- 39:09little too too relaxed. Um
- 39:13but yeah,
- 39:15I [sighs and gasps]
- 39:18I when you start looking at the first
- 39:20quarter, you know, Jaylen Hurst thrown
- 39:21an interception to to uh to the Titans
- 39:24and they they made a
- 39:26a hell of a play on on the left hand
- 39:28side and got it, you know, within
- 39:30striking distance for the Titans to put
- 39:32the first points on the board. It was
- 39:34then it was then going to be a back and
- 39:35forth game and that's pretty much what
- 39:37it was. There was some, you know, there
- 39:39were some really good offensive plays.
- 39:41Defenses struggled to to get the offense
- 39:43off the pit field a lot of the time. Um,
- 39:46but yeah, it was it was it was really
- 39:48great to see. Um, you know, the Eagles
- 39:51coming out on top in the end, but you
- 39:52got to give flowers to the Titans for
- 39:54putting up
- 39:55>> um a better performance than what they
- 39:57did last week.
- 39:59>> Absolutely. I mean, I I wouldn't have
- 40:00had them, you know, three points ahead
- 40:02with two minutes to go. Um but Jaylen
- 40:06Herz came up in the clutch. Darius
- 40:08Cooper uh getting his first NFL
- 40:10touchdown as well with just 14 seconds
- 40:12left on the clock.
- 40:13>> Yeah.
- 40:13>> Um but I think you know in that
- 40:16situation you're always backing the
- 40:18Eagles to go and to go and get that that
- 40:20last touchdown or or I I thought at the
- 40:23very least there's a there's a field
- 40:24goal going up and overtime is going to
- 40:26be, you know, going to be run through.
- 40:28But yeah, I think it'll be
- 40:31[sighs and gasps]
- 40:32>> I think that Philly now, especially with
- 40:34the Giants and the Commanders losing
- 40:37their quarterbacks, it's going to be a
- 40:39much more easier ride. Um Oh, yeah.
- 40:42Depends on how Dak looks cuz they looked
- 40:44okay as well this week. But I think,
- 40:47>> you know, I just think as a team the
- 40:50Eagles have got
- 40:52>> Yeah.
- 40:52>> too much to not win that division.
- 40:55>> Uh which I'm sure you'll be very happy
- 40:57about. [laughter] Yeah, just a little
- 40:58bit. Um, obviously we've got a comment
- 41:00in the uh in the in the comment section
- 41:01there. Go Pack Go, as Kim would say,
- 41:04who's um who's Nicole's partner. I do
- 41:06know Nicole quite well. Um, she hasn't
- 41:08got a clue about football, so she's
- 41:10>> That's it. Well, look, you don't need to
- 41:12know anything about football to know
- 41:13that the Packers
- 41:14>> should be uh supported as [laughter] the
- 41:16best team in the league. Um, we'll move
- 41:18on to a shock result this week. Uh Baker
- 41:21Mayfield faces the Browns for the first
- 41:23time and loses 2319.
- 41:27>> I am shocked there is
- 41:30>> in their home in their home stadium as
- 41:32well which is
- 41:33>> yeah big questions now for for Tampa.
- 41:38Big questions. It's it's it's
- 41:42not looking good. But and my question
- 41:45for you is are they one of the own and
- 41:47two teams that we shouldn't panic about
- 41:49yet?
- 41:52I think they are one of the teams we
- 41:53should be panicking about. I think the
- 41:56amount of pressure that Baker is is is
- 42:00having inside that pocket
- 42:03>> um you know he's being flushed out. He's
- 42:06he's he's he's rushing his reads. He's
- 42:09he's fumbling the ball in the first game
- 42:12and again he's he's he's relying on his
- 42:16his own legs, you know, to get first
- 42:19downs quite a lot of the time and I know
- 42:21he had some good connections with
- 42:23uh and a few of the other few of the
- 42:25other players, you know, Godwin as well,
- 42:28you know, he had some connections there,
- 42:30but it there's no flow. It seems to be,
- 42:34you know, three and out, three and out,
- 42:36three and out. Oh, he's made a play.
- 42:37It's good. There's there's not that
- 42:39consistency in Baker's performance at
- 42:41the moment. That's that's convincing me
- 42:43that, you know, Todd BS has has got the
- 42:47grip that he wants on this team. And I
- 42:49think when it comes, if they don't start
- 42:51performing soon, I think Todd Bows is
- 42:54going to be the the first coach on the
- 42:56chopping block in my eyes.
- 42:58>> Yeah, I I think losing to the Browns is
- 43:00is one way to do that. There was also a
- 43:03132minute lightning delay in the fourth
- 43:05quarter before Tampa's final possession.
- 43:08>> Now, interestingly,
- 43:11>> Cleveland had um gone ahead by that
- 43:14point. I believe it was it was 2319 at
- 43:17the delay,
- 43:18>> but that is a you know to try and pull
- 43:21momentum back after a you know over
- 43:23twohour delay is is is never easy.
- 43:26>> Um but Deshaawn Watson I you know we he
- 43:29was one of the talking points of
- 43:30preseason. And is he going to come out
- 43:32and is he going to is he going to be
- 43:33okay? 24 for 30, 238 yards and two
- 43:37touchdowns.
- 43:39>> I mean the stats say it all really,
- 43:41doesn't it? I mean there was you know
- 43:42there was a couple of pressures which
- 43:44again offensive line um you know could
- 43:46do could do a bit of more improvement in
- 43:48protecting the quarterback.
- 43:50Um, you know, when you've got stats like
- 43:52that, when he's when he's getting rid of
- 43:54the ball and he's connecting with his
- 43:56his his wide receivers and tight ends
- 43:58and running backs,
- 44:01you know, put the points on the board
- 44:03and you're going to win the game. You
- 44:04know, hats off to the Browns defense as
- 44:07well. They, you know, they've obviously
- 44:08lost, you know, the star edge, you know,
- 44:11Miles Garrett this season and and
- 44:12everyone's looking at the Browns going,
- 44:13"Oh, that's you know, the Browns are
- 44:15Browns are cooked."
- 44:17Well, you just traveled halfway across
- 44:20the country to a to Tampa Bay in their
- 44:23own stadium and
- 44:26>> put it on them. So, yeah, I'm I'm
- 44:30excited to see, you know, what the
- 44:32Browns can do to go forward in this, but
- 44:33I'm worried about the Bucks and and
- 44:36where they go forward in this.
- 44:38>> No, I agree. I I think that that that
- 44:41Baker's going to have to have a big big
- 44:43turnaround. He's going to have to have a
- 44:44chat with himself. Um we move on to the
- 44:46next one. It was the Broncos uh versus
- 44:49the Jags. Broncos coming out 2013
- 44:51winners on this occasion. Um [snorts]
- 44:54Jacksonville and Denver both moving to
- 44:56one and one on the season. Um Trevor
- 44:59Lawrence obviously putting two four
- 45:00touchdowns across the opening two weeks.
- 45:03Um
- 45:04my question for you on this one, Lee, is
- 45:06can Denver's defense carry him through a
- 45:08difficult early schedule? Because it's
- 45:10not an easy one. like when when you go
- 45:1114 and three, you've got to play a lot
- 45:13of good teams on on on the schedule. So,
- 45:15is it is it case that their defense can
- 45:17carry them or do you think that Bonix is
- 45:19going to have to take another step up
- 45:20because he looked good this game, but he
- 45:22didn't look good the week before?
- 45:24>> Yeah. And I think it's it's, you know,
- 45:26it's going to come down to,
- 45:28you know, Boicks's complacency. He
- 45:32>> he rushes his read sometimes. he gets
- 45:34rid of the ball, puts it into a bit of
- 45:36traffic and and and gets those picked
- 45:38which he really shouldn't be, you know,
- 45:41putting those balls into those sort of
- 45:43areas. So, I think we we know that the
- 45:46Broncos defense are are pretty solid.
- 45:49You know, Pasatan and and, you know, the
- 45:51other guys on that that that roster are
- 45:54really good. Um
- 45:57and and and we know for a fact that you
- 45:59know Jaylen Wadd um and and the other
- 46:03guys on on the wide receiver sort of
- 46:06team
- 46:08is on paper it looks amazing.
- 46:11>> And you know the the biggest difference
- 46:14from last year to this year is obviously
- 46:15Shawn Payton is is is
- 46:18focusing more on the head coaching role
- 46:20and not the play caller at the moment.
- 46:23And you know, when you look at that loss
- 46:24that they had last week, it may have
- 46:27come down to that sort of instance where
- 46:30it was down to play calling rather than
- 46:33[clears throat]
- 46:33>> the players ability.
- 46:35>> Um, so it was it was great to see that
- 46:37the Broncos actually got this got their
- 46:40win, the first win of the season
- 46:43>> against a a Jacksonville Jaguars who,
- 46:45you know, everyone had tipped to to do
- 46:48really well this year in in the AFC. So,
- 46:53it's it was it was a game that could go
- 46:56either way for in my eyes and um I'm not
- 46:59shocked that the Broncos won. Um but I
- 47:02am a little bit confused on why the Jags
- 47:06aren't showing a more of a dominance
- 47:08this early on in the season. Again,
- 47:12we're only two games in. you know, when
- 47:14once we've got, you know, three, four
- 47:16games under the belt, we can then start
- 47:18making that judgment on,
- 47:19>> okay, are they going to be a playoff
- 47:22contender? I think they are. I think
- 47:23they're going to they're going to
- 47:24dominate their their league. Um, and
- 47:27they're going to get into the playoffs,
- 47:28but,
- 47:30you know, we want to see consistency
- 47:32now. We want to see consistency when it
- 47:34comes to the Jags and their games moving
- 47:36forward.
- 47:37>> Well, this is it. I mean, Trevor
- 47:38Lawrence has looked really good and and
- 47:40they did only let 20 points go on the
- 47:43board from Denver,
- 47:44>> but to to let 17 unanswered points come
- 47:48back, that's that's, you know, that's a
- 47:50failure on the offensive side. It's
- 47:52completely completely stalled. But
- 47:56I'm not sure I my my ver my my belief on
- 47:59this is again, it's not the Broncos
- 48:00didn't win it. The Jags lost it
- 48:03>> because they were they were in control.
- 48:05the first half they looked great and
- 48:06then all of a sudden it was just right
- 48:08okay well we're going to stop doing it.
- 48:11Trevor Lawrence made that crucial
- 48:12interception um you know in the second
- 48:15half and that kind of gave all the
- 48:17momentum to Denver and that was that.
- 48:19>> Um so again another division that's very
- 48:23wide open. Nice segue into the next one
- 48:25which is the Raiders who are somehow 2
- 48:28and 0.
- 48:302614 winners against the Chargers. Me
- 48:32and Steve both picked the Chargers for
- 48:34this one. I mean, I think that's at this
- 48:37point I'm not picking against the
- 48:38Raiders, I don't think. Um, but Kurt
- 48:41Cousins, three touchdowns for the second
- 48:42straight week. He is he is only the
- 48:45second Raiders QB to do that in a
- 48:47season's first two games. So, that tells
- 48:49you a lot about the Raiders quarterback
- 48:50situations. Trey Tucker had a great
- 48:53game. Uh, Cody White, again, we were
- 48:55talking about next man up before with
- 48:57the with the Green Bay line. Cody White
- 48:58coming in catching two touchdowns after
- 49:00being elevated from the practice squad.
- 49:02Um, Raiders rookie Hezekia Masses picks
- 49:05off Justin Herbert twice. Herbert once
- 49:08again not looking good. Um, I've got a
- 49:11view on this and I think it's a Mike
- 49:13McDaniel problem because he's come in
- 49:16and tried to change an offense when that
- 49:18offense is not set up to do what he
- 49:20wants to do.
- 49:21>> Yeah. [snorts] No, I think you're
- 49:22absolutely right. Michael McDaniels
- 49:24again, he's he's from that Shanahan
- 49:27tree, isn't he? you know, he's he's got
- 49:28he's got that that offensive mind. Um,
- 49:33but
- 49:35you know, it's it's always the same
- 49:37thing. You know, you may have a
- 49:38fantastic scheme, but you need to have
- 49:40the players
- 49:42>> in the right positions at the right time
- 49:46to make it work. And I think he he's
- 49:50he's come in there, you know, with with
- 49:52Harour and and he's he's trying to he's
- 49:55trying to in insert his dominance into
- 49:57this into this offense and it is not
- 50:00looking great right now. Again,
- 50:04you know, when we start looking at that,
- 50:06you know, sort of should we be worried?
- 50:09Should we be worried about the Chargers
- 50:11being 0 and2 on the season? No, I don't
- 50:15think we should be. I think, you know,
- 50:16again, give a couple more couple more
- 50:18weeks. Let's get a bit more of a
- 50:21uh a bit more of a a feel for how how
- 50:26the other teams that they're going up
- 50:27against. Um and then we can make a
- 50:29judgment. But hats off to the Raiders.
- 50:33Um, I know Matteo is probably gonna be,
- 50:36>> you know, turning in his turn
- 50:40screaming at the screen about how much
- 50:42how much he hates the Raiders, but um,
- 50:45you know, to to turn it around the way
- 50:47they have, you know, with Kurt Cousins,
- 50:49you know, they not even really put
- 50:50Mendoza on the field too much in these
- 50:53last two games, but [snorts] um, yeah,
- 50:56I'm I'm excited to see what what the
- 50:57Raiders can do. I mean, look, I I'm all
- 51:01all for the Raiders winning that
- 51:03division. Um, just because that'll annoy
- 51:05both Ste and and Matteo. [laughter] So,
- 51:09look, this is it's a win-win for me. Uh,
- 51:12but yeah, no, I agree. I think the
- 51:13Raiders have have have come out as a bit
- 51:15of, you know, real surprise for me. it.
- 51:18Kurt Cousins, we know that Kurt Cousins
- 51:20can be that guy he was for the the
- 51:22Vikings when they I think they went
- 51:25>> I want to say they went 12 and five,
- 51:27maybe 13 and four that year that they
- 51:29won the division. I think in 2022, so
- 51:31he's got he's we know he's got the
- 51:33capability. He's just I didn't think he
- 51:35had any weapons, but apparently they
- 51:37just sit on the practice squad. Um so
- 51:40that's that's you know, again, like you
- 51:42say, next man up. Um
- 51:43>> yeah,
- 51:44>> we'll move on to the next one. Seahawks
- 51:46[snorts] at Cardinals. Seattle came out
- 51:4831-7 winners over Arizona. I picked this
- 51:50one with my heart and picked the
- 51:52Cardinals. That was silly because uh it
- 51:55was never really going to happen, was
- 51:56it? Jackson Smith and Jigba came out and
- 51:58did a Jackson Smith and Jigba thing.
- 51:59Three touchdowns, 155 yards. Drew
- 52:02Lockach, when you've got that many
- 52:04weapons, it's hard to be bad. Um he
- 52:07looked very solid. Three touchdowns from
- 52:09him, all to Jackson Smith and Jigba.
- 52:11Seahawks defense only allowing 151 total
- 52:14yards and all their momentum is now
- 52:16gone. Seattle however have 12 straight
- 52:18wins including the playoffs. Um are they
- 52:21looking like the team to beat in the NFC
- 52:23or are Arizona just being brought back
- 52:25down to earth? What do you think?
- 52:27>> I think it's the the latter. I think
- 52:29Arizona being brought down to earth. You
- 52:31know they
- 52:33you know they've got Jacobe Brassette as
- 52:36QB. He is
- 52:39he is not a top 20 QB, you know, he's
- 52:44he's sort of bottom to to maybe to
- 52:48middle sort of average quarterback, um
- 52:51he is not a an elite QB. Um and although
- 52:54he's got Trey McBride and
- 52:58you know Marvin Harris Harrison Jr.,
- 53:02I haven't heard him. I haven't heard has
- 53:04he even had a catch yet? I I don't know
- 53:06what is going on in that offense. Why
- 53:08are they not utilizing their star wide
- 53:10receiver
- 53:11>> at all? Now,
- 53:13you know, last week's last week's win,
- 53:16was that a fluke?
- 53:18Is it's to be debated. Um but the the
- 53:22Seahawks,
- 53:24I think, are just
- 53:26they're churning their way through at
- 53:27the moment. They're they're, you know,
- 53:28taking care of business.
- 53:30>> Yeah. you know, against against against
- 53:31against a good Patriots last week and
- 53:34now, you know, against a
- 53:37questionable Cardinals.
- 53:40I'll be interesting to see
- 53:43how they game plan against someone like
- 53:45the 49ers or [clears throat]
- 53:47>> or the Rams.
- 53:49Um,
- 53:51you know, obviously they've got to play
- 53:52both of those teams twice, so it'll be
- 53:55interesting to see how that pans out. Um
- 53:58but at the moment, [clears throat] you
- 53:59know, they're taking care of business.
- 54:00They're they're moving along quite
- 54:02nicely. Um yeah, it's it's six of one
- 54:05half a dozen the other. It was a bad
- 54:07Cardinals. It is a good Seahawks.
- 54:10>> That's that's why we got the score that
- 54:11we've got.
- 54:13>> No, I I agree. Uh th this, you know,
- 54:15preseason looked like it was going to be
- 54:17one of the toughest divisions to get out
- 54:18of. Um, the Rams I am still I've got
- 54:23them on fraud watch to be honest, but I
- 54:27I I think the 49ers look really good.
- 54:30Uh, the Seahawks obviously come out and
- 54:32and just continuing what they did at the
- 54:34back end of last season. the Rams. I
- 54:36think it will be interesting to see how
- 54:38they develop, but that first week, and I
- 54:41know a lot's been said about the travel
- 54:43time and stuff, but I I just
- 54:45>> it's it's it's
- 54:48travel time aside, you are still the
- 54:50players that you are and should have put
- 54:52out a better performance. So, we'll see
- 54:53how that division goes. Um, next up, we
- 54:56go back to the East. It was an East
- 54:58matchup. It was the Commanders at the
- 54:59Cowboys, Dallas 37, Washington 20.
- 55:03Obviously, this one headlined by the
- 55:04fact that Jaden Daniels dislocated his
- 55:06left elbow once again. At the time of
- 55:08him leaving, he was 11 of 17 for 96
- 55:10yards and a touchdown, 69 rushing yards
- 55:13on the board. Marcus Mariota came in and
- 55:15Washington only managed 10 more points
- 55:17in the entire game.
- 55:18>> [snorts]
- 55:19>> Um,
- 55:20so yeah,
- 55:22interesting. Interesting because Dallas
- 55:25obviously lost the first week to the
- 55:26Giants. Scored 37 this week.
- 55:31Very efficient. Scored on seven of their
- 55:33eight possessions as well. CD Lamb woke
- 55:36up 153 yards, two touchdowns from eight
- 55:38catches. But I think more of this game
- 55:44was lost by Daniels leaving the game
- 55:47than Dallas being better. Cuz up until
- 55:49that point, Dallas didn't look like they
- 55:51were going to win. So what what what are
- 55:54your views? Did they fix their problems
- 55:55from week one or was it more that
- 55:56Daniels coming out of the game changed
- 55:58the game completely? No, I think I think
- 56:00you know this you've taken away a a
- 56:04dominant
- 56:06quarterback um against a really weak
- 56:09Dallas Cowboys defense.
- 56:11And what's happened is, you know, the
- 56:15offense for both teams, the Cowboys kept
- 56:19going and the Commanders couldn't quite
- 56:21keep up. So, I think it would have been
- 56:22a very back and forth game if if Daniels
- 56:25hadn't become injured. I think it would
- 56:27have just been a two and throw sort of
- 56:30uh score off. But with with Daniels
- 56:33going down, I think that's
- 56:37>> that's what gave the the Cowboys that
- 56:41that edge in this. Um they their defense
- 56:44still looks shocking. Um
- 56:47>> I'm not impressed whatsoever with their
- 56:49secondary. Um, you know,
- 56:53>> to be honest, they look very vulnerable
- 56:56on the run. Despite adding Quinn and
- 56:57Williams, despite adding Kenny Clark,
- 57:00>> despite adding Rashan Garry, that
- 57:01defensive front does not look solid at
- 57:03all. I mean, they gave up 203 yards in
- 57:05the second quarter before Jaden Daniels
- 57:08got injured.
- 57:09>> Um, so I I I'm not
- 57:12>> I'm not sold on Dallas. I think Dax
- 57:14Dak's one of those quarterbacks that,
- 57:15you know, you're going to get a good
- 57:16regular season out of. You know, he's
- 57:18going to, you know, get a lot of yards.
- 57:20He's got weapons, he's got Pickings,
- 57:22he's got Lamb, he's got Ferguson.
- 57:25Javvante Williams hasn't looked great to
- 57:27start the year. Um, but yeah, I I think
- 57:30this is basically just handed the
- 57:32division to uh
- 57:33>> to the Eagles, which you know,
- 57:36>> yeah,
- 57:36>> I don't think there's a and and some
- 57:38some games there's not a really a great
- 57:40deal to say. Jaden Daniels coming out
- 57:42changed the game. Dallas took advantage
- 57:44of that and the Commanders are now going
- 57:46to suffer uh as they go to Seattle this
- 57:49week. So yeah, not fun. Not fun. Um,
- 57:54next up we have got the Dolphins at the
- 57:5849ers.
- 57:59Expectedly Miami dropped to 0 and2 3513
- 58:03to the 49ers. Um, the Niners scoring
- 58:07touchdowns on their first five offensive
- 58:08possessions. So the game was done very
- 58:11very early on. Brock Pery near perfect.
- 58:1320 of 22 of 287, two touchdowns and a
- 58:16rushing touchdown. four sacks from the
- 58:19San Francisco defense, uh, keeping them
- 58:21out of the end zone till late in the
- 58:22foro and a garbage time touchdown. Great
- 58:25defensive performance once again from
- 58:27San Francisco. But twofold question for
- 58:30you. Are the 49ers genuine contenders
- 58:33for the NFC? And how bad is Miami
- 58:35situation at 0 and2?
- 58:39>> Um, yeah. I mean, it's it's it's it's
- 58:43disaster for for Miami. I think they are
- 58:46they are tanking. You know, no team will
- 58:49admit that they're going to tank, but I
- 58:51think we can safely say, you know, when
- 58:53you when you make the trades that they
- 58:56made at the beginning of the season,
- 58:57getting rid of Waddle and getting rid of
- 58:59some other key players that they had, I
- 59:01think that was a key indication that the
- 59:03Dolphins are making a beline for for for
- 59:06the Manning boy over at Texas. Um
- 59:11this the shock for me was
- 59:14this the the lack of points towards the
- 59:17end of the game for for the ners. I
- 59:19think I thought this was going to be a
- 59:20blowout. You know you mentioned about
- 59:22you know five scores on the first five
- 59:24drives.
- 59:26I was expecting this to be a complete
- 59:28blowout, but obviously um
- 59:30>> yeah,
- 59:30>> you know, I don't know if they started
- 59:31rotating in their their second string
- 59:34guys in there, but it just it just
- 59:36didn't seem uh a big enough blowout for
- 59:39me for for the nines. Maybe they just
- 59:41use this as a sort of a a training sort
- 59:44of game. But um yeah,
- 59:48I I I think the Dolphins are going to
- 59:50struggle to get any wins this season. I
- 59:54think, you know, we looking at, you
- 59:56know, potentially an 0 and 17 season for
- 59:59the Dolphins
- 1:00:00>> [snorts]
- 1:00:00>> uh whilst they're trying to secure that
- 1:00:02that quarterback. Uh for the Niners, I
- 1:00:04think
- 1:00:06I think I think they they are a Super
- 1:00:09Bowl contender. I, you know, the way
- 1:00:11they they took care of business in in
- 1:00:13Australia last week. Um, you know, and I
- 1:00:16think they're just they're just,
- 1:00:21you know, unless they lose any more
- 1:00:23players.
- 1:00:24>> Um, I think, you know, their defense is
- 1:00:27looking solid, their offense is looking
- 1:00:29solid, special teams are coming together
- 1:00:31quite nicely. I think they are,
- 1:00:35[gasps]
- 1:00:36you know, barring any major upsets, I
- 1:00:38think they could be heading to the NFC
- 1:00:40title game and potentially looking to
- 1:00:43make the playoffs. Um, but yeah, that
- 1:00:46that's that's going to be my bold
- 1:00:48prediction for the for the nines.
- 1:00:50>> Okay. No, I mean, I think I think
- 1:00:52they've started really well. Uh adding
- 1:00:54Mike Evans gives them a a proper wide
- 1:00:56receiver one with Brandon Aayuk deciding
- 1:01:00he wants to go to the Commanders and not
- 1:01:01playing and whatever whatever he's
- 1:01:03doing. [snorts] Um so yeah, despite
- 1:01:06having a lot of uncertainty
- 1:01:10going into the season, they've started
- 1:01:12really well. Um KD's been been solid
- 1:01:15doing what he does. Best best blocking
- 1:01:17tight end in the league.
- 1:01:19>> McCaffry's been solid. He's not been
- 1:01:21outstanding, which we come to expect
- 1:01:23from him, but he's done enough. They've
- 1:01:25got a good backup running back in Kalin
- 1:01:27Black. They just look solid everywhere.
- 1:01:30There's Fred Warner's started the season
- 1:01:32really well. So, yeah, for me,
- 1:01:35>> really interesting. Um Brock Pery
- 1:01:38though,
- 1:01:39>> um looking like he's not going to play
- 1:01:41this week. We will talk about that, but
- 1:01:42that is something to to keep an eye on
- 1:01:44for San Francisco in the upcoming week.
- 1:01:46Um next up, Colts at Chiefs. It went to
- 1:01:49overtime again. Not not something I
- 1:01:51thought would go to overtime, but the
- 1:01:52Chiefs win it sneakily 3330.
- 1:01:55Um, are the Chiefs back or are they just
- 1:01:58finding ways to win close games at the
- 1:02:00moment? I'm not sure.
- 1:02:02>> No, I'm not I'm not sure either.
- 1:02:04Everyone's everyone's, you know, saying
- 1:02:06don't dismiss the Chiefs. You know, they
- 1:02:08are,
- 1:02:09you know, they they should have respect
- 1:02:12and and everything about that. And and
- 1:02:16when we look at the roster, you know,
- 1:02:17you're looking at Travis Kelce who's,
- 1:02:19you know, potentially this is going to
- 1:02:21be his last season.
- 1:02:22>> You know, you've got Mahomes who's who's
- 1:02:24still just coming back from from
- 1:02:26surgery. Um you've got, you know, Xavier
- 1:02:29Worthy who who was, you know, sort of
- 1:02:33seen as as a as as the next
- 1:02:37um
- 1:02:39sort of I can't remember his name now.
- 1:02:43Tyreek Hill, you know, they were going
- 1:02:44to think he was going to stretch the
- 1:02:45field and and give Mahomes a deep
- 1:02:47threat. Um,
- 1:02:50>> they just they just don't
- 1:02:53they're still not
- 1:02:56giving me that that boost of confidence
- 1:02:58where I think they could be back in the
- 1:03:00Super Bowl this year. I still think they
- 1:03:02they're gonna
- 1:03:03>> something's going to happen about week
- 1:03:04seven, week eight, week nine where they
- 1:03:06start to start to crumble. a player may
- 1:03:09get injured or or or the the just the
- 1:03:13the scheme seems to be breaking down.
- 1:03:15People start cracking the codes and and
- 1:03:18you know, they start losing consecutive
- 1:03:20games and I I I don't think
- 1:03:24they're a serious team this year.
- 1:03:26>> Um but yeah, I'm I'm What's your view on
- 1:03:29this one? Because I mean I I'm obviously
- 1:03:32Steve Steve's obviously a Chie fan and
- 1:03:34you know
- 1:03:34>> Yes. I've got his I've got his his his
- 1:03:36voice ringing in my ears telling me that
- 1:03:38when they won in 2022, it was Mico
- 1:03:40Hardman and Juju Smith Schustster and
- 1:03:43and their Clyde Edwards Helair at at
- 1:03:45running back and
- 1:03:46>> Momes has has pulled greatness out of
- 1:03:50bad players before.
- 1:03:52>> Um and it's not as if Rashi Rice and
- 1:03:54Travis Kelce and Xavier Worthy are bad
- 1:03:56players either. Um
- 1:03:59>> he's looked very good since coming back
- 1:04:01as well. I mean, this week, 382 yards,
- 1:04:03three touchdowns, no picks, pulled 101
- 1:04:06yards out of Kelsey. But I think the
- 1:04:08biggest difference for me this season in
- 1:04:10the Chiefs and why they will be the team
- 1:04:13to beat in that division is Kenneth
- 1:04:14Walker. The way that he started the
- 1:04:16season,
- 1:04:17>> I I was very on the anti-Kenneth Walker
- 1:04:20train going into the season because I
- 1:04:22believed and still probably do to a
- 1:04:24degree that Zack Sharet is the better
- 1:04:25running back out of the two of them.
- 1:04:28However, in this system that Andy Reid
- 1:04:31puts across,
- 1:04:33>> yeah,
- 1:04:33>> Kenneth Walker is
- 1:04:36the the prototypical running back for
- 1:04:39it. He's a great backfield
- 1:04:42>> like he catches out the backfield really
- 1:04:44well. He's great at finding the gaps.
- 1:04:48>> He's
- 1:04:50he just creates chaos, which is
- 1:04:52something that the Chiefs lacked last
- 1:04:54season. um especially when uh Mahomes
- 1:04:57went down. So I think that provided and
- 1:05:01it's a big provided if Kenneth Walker
- 1:05:03can keep going in the way that he is it
- 1:05:05frees Mahomes up to take more time
- 1:05:08because Mahomes is Mahomes gets worse
- 1:05:10when he when he feels like he has to
- 1:05:11play and win the game when like himself
- 1:05:14and I've said this to Steve many times
- 1:05:15is when Mahomes is back against the wall
- 1:05:18you either get Super Mahomes where he
- 1:05:21he'll launch himself across and and
- 1:05:22somehow make a pass or he's throwing the
- 1:05:26ball 80 yards and he's getting picked
- 1:05:27off and there's nobody nobody anywhere
- 1:05:29near it. So I think having a great
- 1:05:32running back like Kenneth Walker well
- 1:05:34having somebody in form like Kenneth
- 1:05:36Walker is if he can sustain it gives
- 1:05:38Mahomes more time and gives the Chiefs
- 1:05:41more options.
- 1:05:42>> Um so I think it's it's it's one of
- 1:05:46those that's still the jury is still out
- 1:05:47for me.
- 1:05:48>> Yeah.
- 1:05:48>> But trending towards them being the one
- 1:05:51of one of the better if not the best
- 1:05:53team in that division. But I mean, you
- 1:05:55know, having that that run game is is is
- 1:05:57fantastic and it gives them a whole
- 1:05:58different dimension
- 1:06:00>> to every other running back that has
- 1:06:01been in that sort of that team over the
- 1:06:03over the Super Bowl sort of era that
- 1:06:05they've had. [snorts]
- 1:06:07>> Yeah, I I agree.
- 1:06:09>> Our team's going to figure this out. Our
- 1:06:11team's going to start going, "Okay,
- 1:06:13well, we need to take care of Kenneth
- 1:06:14Walker and then put pressure on Holmes,
- 1:06:18>> force them into the air, and then we can
- 1:06:21take care of business." right now and
- 1:06:22Reed's got this this team cooking, you
- 1:06:25know, with uh you know, with um the OC
- 1:06:28there. And I think he's Yeah, he's he's
- 1:06:32got he's got this team where he wants
- 1:06:33to. But right now, I think like I say,
- 1:06:35week week seven, eight, nine when teams
- 1:06:38start figuring this this this this plan
- 1:06:40out and how they can stop Kenneth Walker
- 1:06:42and then put pressure on Mahomes and
- 1:06:44then stop stop the run game, stop the
- 1:06:46pass game, and then put pressure on. I
- 1:06:48think this is where that's that's where
- 1:06:49we'll see the the team start to fold up.
- 1:06:52But that's just, you know, that's just
- 1:06:53my my personal thought, but that's how I
- 1:06:55feel.
- 1:06:55>> No, I I think you've got a fair point
- 1:06:57there. I mean, the biggest thing for me
- 1:06:59with the Chiefs at the moment is that uh
- 1:07:02their defense is bad. And like I say,
- 1:07:05Momes, you get one of two players when
- 1:07:08his back's against the wall. And if the
- 1:07:09defense can't stop points going on the
- 1:07:11board, he's going to have to play hero
- 1:07:12ball more than he's not. So,
- 1:07:14>> we will see. Uh but Monday Night
- 1:07:16Football, I am sad because the Giants
- 1:07:19lost 28-6 to the to the evil
- 1:07:22corporation, the Rams. It's like it's
- 1:07:25like to me this is Vince McMahon's
- 1:07:26corporation. I don't like it. I don't
- 1:07:29like the way that the Rams have gone
- 1:07:31about it. But 286 win, Jackson Dark goes
- 1:07:34down, his ACL goes seven snaps into the
- 1:07:37game, didn't come back, which is a well,
- 1:07:40that's it. That that's the Giant season
- 1:07:42for I don't I don't think there's
- 1:07:43there's anything more to be said about
- 1:07:45that part. Um, Niku was out. Devonte
- 1:07:49Adams comes in with two touchdowns and
- 1:07:51nearly 200 receiving yards. Matthew
- 1:07:53Stafford near perfect again. And that
- 1:07:55defense actually looked like the defense
- 1:07:58that we were promised at the start of
- 1:08:00the season. Yeah, it's shocking what
- 1:08:02happens when you don't have to travel 27
- 1:08:04hours before and do like nearly 24-hour
- 1:08:07journey.
- 1:08:08>> It's amazing.
- 1:08:09But yeah, I mean Trent McDuffy gets his
- 1:08:12first interception as a Ram, four pass
- 1:08:13deflections as well. Aaron Donald comes
- 1:08:15back, three tackles in a TFL. Giants
- 1:08:18also lose Andrew Thomas and Brian Burns
- 1:08:20to injuries. So they are decimated right
- 1:08:23now.
- 1:08:24>> Question for you is was week one the
- 1:08:26aberration or have the Rams actually
- 1:08:28rediscovered the team that we expected
- 1:08:30to see? I think and you know listening
- 1:08:33to the press conference that um Shawn
- 1:08:35McVey kind of gave after the the game in
- 1:08:38in in Australia you know he he kind of
- 1:08:41held his hands up and said I got this
- 1:08:43wrong
- 1:08:44>> and I think if if he' have t he had
- 1:08:47taken the team out to Australia the same
- 1:08:50time the ners did we may be looking at a
- 1:08:53completely different score. No. Okay.
- 1:08:55>> When you when you talk to, you know,
- 1:08:56when when the reporters were talking to
- 1:08:59um Jordan Milata, who's is obviously an
- 1:09:01Australian uh international player who's
- 1:09:04who's come over to the Philadelphia
- 1:09:05Eagles, you know, they asked on his
- 1:09:08view, you know, do you think Shawn McVey
- 1:09:11did the right thing? And he's like, no,
- 1:09:14it's it's too much of a of a distance to
- 1:09:17travel to, you know, to in such a short
- 1:09:20space of time, your players are going to
- 1:09:22be cooked. and they were they were
- 1:09:24dominated on all levels against the the
- 1:09:26ners. Um and you know now again like you
- 1:09:30say now they're back on sort of home
- 1:09:32soil and and you know maybe just
- 1:09:34traveling you know against maybe a
- 1:09:38couple of time zones across the states.
- 1:09:40You know they're going to find that
- 1:09:42their flow a lot a lot easier and we're
- 1:09:45going to start seeing you know the
- 1:09:47defense cooking especially when Miles
- 1:09:48Garretts get back after after his stint
- 1:09:51on IR. I think once once, you know, once
- 1:09:53we see that one-two punch from from
- 1:09:56Maron Donald and and Miles Garrett, I
- 1:09:58think it's going to be it's definitely
- 1:09:59going to be spicy. Um, and you know,
- 1:10:02Stafford Stafford's just going to
- 1:10:03continue to do what he does. You know,
- 1:10:04he's got the weapons that he needs. Um,
- 1:10:07you know, and if he hasn't he hasn't got
- 1:10:09Noui, he's got um he's got his other
- 1:10:12players he can he can lean on. And I
- 1:10:14think, yeah, he's
- 1:10:16we're going to see the LA start to to
- 1:10:18hoten up now. I think they've now they
- 1:10:20now they've got that first game out the
- 1:10:22way with drew a line underneath it.
- 1:10:24We're going to see the Rams, the
- 1:10:26corporation Rams, you said um firing up
- 1:10:29and and showing us um that they are the
- 1:10:32Super Bowl contenders.
- 1:10:35>> Yeah. I mean, I've still got them on
- 1:10:36fraud watch, but that's just cuz that's
- 1:10:38that, you know, [laughter]
- 1:10:41>> it's one of them teams. It's like you
- 1:10:43It's like when the Pat you when the
- 1:10:45Patriots are just that they were the
- 1:10:46evil machine for a while and now you
- 1:10:50know the Chiefs were the evil machine
- 1:10:51and and the Rams are trying to assemble
- 1:10:53this super team and become the evil
- 1:10:55machine. I'm just I don't know. It
- 1:10:57doesn't quite sit right with me. I don't
- 1:10:58know if that's been an English thing and
- 1:11:00it's just like I want the underdog to
- 1:11:01win. But yeah, I I I I really just Yeah,
- 1:11:07I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. Though I
- 1:11:09do think they will be good. I think I
- 1:11:10think they will pick up into the season
- 1:11:12and they'll they'll settle in. That
- 1:11:14first game going to Australia is always
- 1:11:16going to be an outlier because you never
- 1:11:18know who's going to acclimate better.
- 1:11:20You never know who's going to, you know,
- 1:11:23deal with the weather. There's lots of
- 1:11:25lots of factors at play, but yeah, I
- 1:11:27think the Rams are they're pretty safe
- 1:11:29going to be in and around that, you
- 1:11:31know, NFC Championship conversation um
- 1:11:34for the season. So that is uh that is
- 1:11:37the week one review. As of right now I
- 1:11:40am 17 and 15 which is absolutely
- 1:11:42diabolical in terms of my predictions
- 1:11:44and Steve is 21 and 11. He's not here so
- 1:11:47we'll move on. Um [laughter] we'll go
- 1:11:49we'll go to the fantasy room. Um this
- 1:11:52week has been interesting in the TDUK
- 1:11:54Fantasy League. Uh once again Steve's
- 1:11:57not here. Um but he scored 206 points in
- 1:12:01the fantasy league this this week. um
- 1:12:05339.78
- 1:12:07points for for him with the comfortably
- 1:12:09the highest total in the league which is
- 1:12:11uh you know he'll be he's playing me
- 1:12:14this week though so this is where it
- 1:12:15ends. Um and at the other end we've got
- 1:12:17Matteo. Matteo only scored 89 points
- 1:12:19this week. The only team scoring under
- 1:12:22100 um and only 164 points across the
- 1:12:25first two weeks. It would help if he
- 1:12:27played uh all the players that played
- 1:12:28and and took the ones out that were
- 1:12:30injured, but that's by the buy. Um,
- 1:12:33three teams left unbeaten so far. At the
- 1:12:35top, it's Ste, it's Banger and Mash, and
- 1:12:37it is myself. So, only three unbeaten
- 1:12:39teams. But an interesting one to keep an
- 1:12:41eye on is Genty Does It, who are one and
- 1:12:43one, but have scored 313.68
- 1:12:46points across uh two games. So, it's the
- 1:12:48second highest points for in the league.
- 1:12:51Um, but yeah, players of the week this
- 1:12:53week, Jackson Smith and Jigba, 44
- 1:12:56points. Uh, Josh Allen obviously with
- 1:12:58his ridiculous performance as he does,
- 1:13:0033 points for him. Jonathan Taylor
- 1:13:03putting in a good performance for
- 1:13:04Indianapolis against um the Chiefs 29.2.
- 1:13:08Daltton King 22.5. Brandon Aubry kicking
- 1:13:1220 points worth of fantasy points this
- 1:13:14week. And the Patriots defense and
- 1:13:16special teams having a great time as
- 1:13:18well with 23. [snorts] Um week two
- 1:13:21awards though and you'll be happy you're
- 1:13:22in on this one. You're the most
- 1:13:23efficient manager this week.
- 1:13:25>> There we go. For for those of you out
- 1:13:27there that that with these awards, the
- 1:13:29most efficient manager is basically you
- 1:13:32pick the right players. You pick the
- 1:13:33players that are going to score you the
- 1:13:34most. And Lee this week was uh our most
- 1:13:37efficient. Highest points in a loss uh
- 1:13:40was Dixon with two 121 points, which is
- 1:13:43brutal to lose with 121 points. Um
- 1:13:47considering the lowest points in the win
- 1:13:48was 116 this week. So that's uh you
- 1:13:51know, it is what it is. The narrowest
- 1:13:53victory was the Pickle Rickers.
- 1:13:56116.18
- 1:13:59uh against 113.58.
- 1:14:02Um and yeah, we've got we've got some 0
- 1:14:04and2 teams. Uh we've got some one-on-one
- 1:14:07[snorts] teams and we've got some two
- 1:14:08and0 teams. It's going to be interesting
- 1:14:10to see what happens this week this
- 1:14:12season. But yeah, the big fantasy story
- 1:14:15this week, quarterbacks. Now, Jackson
- 1:14:18Dart down for the season. Jaden Daniels
- 1:14:20down for the season looking likely.
- 1:14:23Caleb Williams out for at least this
- 1:14:25week. The waiver wire is going to be
- 1:14:27very important. Who would you be going
- 1:14:29after, Lee? Um, if you've got one of
- 1:14:31those three quarterbacks,
- 1:14:32>> well, I've got one of those three
- 1:14:33quarterbacks, haven't I? I've got
- 1:14:35>> Well, this is what you know what? This
- 1:14:36is this [laughter] is why I thought it
- 1:14:38would be a nice segue. Who are you going
- 1:14:40to be going after?
- 1:14:41>> Um, I mean, I've got I've got Justin
- 1:14:43Herbert on the on the bench, so I'm I'm
- 1:14:45going to be promoting him to
- 1:14:46>> That is That is ropey.
- 1:14:49>> It's ropey. It is absolutely ropey. But
- 1:14:52I don't really want to get rid of,
- 1:14:55you know, one of my QBs.
- 1:14:57>> I I I believe that Justin Herbert is
- 1:15:00going to is going to have a revival and
- 1:15:02he's he's going to be there. He's he's I
- 1:15:05want him to be my Mr. Reliable.
- 1:15:07>> Yeah.
- 1:15:07>> You know, once once Caleb William gets
- 1:15:09back, he's going to get back into that
- 1:15:10into that chair for me and and to, you
- 1:15:13know, to leave lead leave the leave my
- 1:15:15team. Um,
- 1:15:18but yeah, I want Justin Herbert just to
- 1:15:20be my Mr. Reliable that, you know, he
- 1:15:23he's he can jump back, he can jump into
- 1:15:25that number one seat and and to take my
- 1:15:27team in and with a victory. But, um,
- 1:15:30thankfully I've got Matteo this week, so
- 1:15:33I don't really need to try that hard.
- 1:15:35So, [laughter]
- 1:15:39so I mean I think I think I think I'm uh
- 1:15:42I think I'm safe this week, but um I'm
- 1:15:44hoping that Caleb gets back soon,
- 1:15:45otherwise I'm going to have to start
- 1:15:46looking at the waiver wire and see see
- 1:15:49what other good QBs are out there. But
- 1:15:51yeah, I I don't know who's got um D or
- 1:15:54or or Daniels, but they've I'm sure
- 1:15:57they're going to be panicking as well.
- 1:15:59>> Yeah, I mean in in a lot of leagues,
- 1:16:01Tyler Shook's available, Bryce Young is
- 1:16:03available. Nobody really expecting much
- 1:16:05from them, but they've shown up to be
- 1:16:06two of the best performing quarterbacks
- 1:16:08in terms of fantasy so far. Um,
- 1:16:10>> point for you guys out there as well
- 1:16:12with your fantasy leagues. Number one,
- 1:16:14do not forget tonight is the first game.
- 1:16:17Don't keep your players from tonight in
- 1:16:19your flex spots because that is going to
- 1:16:22cause you a problem later on down the
- 1:16:24line. Put them in your starting spots if
- 1:16:26you're going to.
- 1:16:28>> Um, [snorts] but also think about who's
- 1:16:29inherited volume because somebody's got
- 1:16:31injured. And that is something we're
- 1:16:32going to speak about with the start and
- 1:16:33sit calls. Um,
- 1:16:36I've got Jameson Williams down as a
- 1:16:38start. The passing game hasn't been
- 1:16:40great for the Lions yet, but there is
- 1:16:42reason to stay patient with Williams
- 1:16:43rather than panic. Um, PFF has
- 1:16:46specifically noted that his slow start
- 1:16:48is understandable and expects bigger
- 1:16:50games ahead. Thoughts on that one, Lee?
- 1:16:54>> Oh,
- 1:16:56yeah. I mean,
- 1:17:02it's it's it's a it's a really tough one
- 1:17:04to to kind of get your head around, you
- 1:17:06know, when you when you're looking at
- 1:17:07Jameson W Jameson Winston and and how is
- 1:17:11he going to perform? Um, I mean, who
- 1:17:13have got who have the Giants got this
- 1:17:15week?
- 1:17:16>> So, it's Jameson Williams, the Detroit
- 1:17:17wide receiver.
- 1:17:18>> Oh, Jameson Williams, sorry. Jameson
- 1:17:20Williams.
- 1:17:21>> Um,
- 1:17:22Jameson Williams. I
- 1:17:25he's always going to struggle when
- 1:17:26you've got someone like Arman Ross and
- 1:17:28Brown, you know, putting up the the big
- 1:17:30points. You know, Goff Scoff's always
- 1:17:32going to target him
- 1:17:34>> over Jameson. Um but yeah, I'd like to
- 1:17:38see Jameson come back into this. I'd
- 1:17:39like to see him, you know, getting some
- 1:17:41more of those targets and and putting
- 1:17:42some more points on the board. Um but
- 1:17:44yeah um
- 1:17:47>> yeah I think it's an interesting one
- 1:17:49because he's he's the biggest sort of
- 1:17:51like big play guy for the Lions because
- 1:17:53of how fast he is. So that that is
- 1:17:56something to keep an eye on especially
- 1:17:58when they're playing teams that have got
- 1:17:59poor secondaries. Um second on the list
- 1:18:02I've got Marvin Harrison Jr. is a sit.
- 1:18:04This is for me it's name value versus
- 1:18:06current production decision. um he's not
- 1:18:09given enough through the first two weeks
- 1:18:10to justify a blind start, but
- 1:18:14but and it is a big but
- 1:18:17he's come out and said that he's he's
- 1:18:19not worried about it. The coach has come
- 1:18:21out and said he's not worried about it.
- 1:18:22Jacobe Brassette has come out and said
- 1:18:24the only reason you're talking about him
- 1:18:25is because he's called Marvin Harrison.
- 1:18:28So
- 1:18:29what do you think? Is this a case of
- 1:18:31persist? I mean I I I think he should be
- 1:18:33sat this week. I think you you sit him
- 1:18:35and maybe take the risk that he's going
- 1:18:36to score well, but then he gets a bit of
- 1:18:38momentum back and you bring him back in
- 1:18:40rather than blindly start him and then
- 1:18:42he has another week like he has the last
- 1:18:44couple.
- 1:18:46>> So, I'm I'm I'm going to compare this to
- 1:18:49the AJ Brown last season. You know, AJ
- 1:18:53Brown
- 1:18:54was on so many people's fantasies last
- 1:18:57year, and you know, they're using his
- 1:19:00name and his reputation to go, he's
- 1:19:03going to score me at least 20 points in
- 1:19:06in this in this fantasy. I'm going to
- 1:19:07sit him in that in that prime spot. And
- 1:19:12then he gets he gets a couple of targets
- 1:19:15in the game. He only he only gets a
- 1:19:17handful of points and
- 1:19:21and then that that brings the players
- 1:19:23morale down. It then snowballs the way
- 1:19:26the Eagles obviously handled it um and
- 1:19:30the end ends up going to to New England.
- 1:19:34If they do not start targeting Marvin
- 1:19:37Harrison over these next couple of
- 1:19:39games, we are going to see the same
- 1:19:42issue
- 1:19:42>> arising in in Arizona with with the
- 1:19:46player
- 1:19:49becoming a little bit more vocal and
- 1:19:51saying, "Yeah,
- 1:19:52>> just throw me the ball.
- 1:19:53>> Give me a chance. You're not even
- 1:19:55looking at me. Throw me the ball and I
- 1:19:58will show you what I can do." So, I
- 1:20:00think you're right in saying potentially
- 1:20:03sit this week,
- 1:20:05but only if you know for a fact that
- 1:20:07you've got really good players ahead of
- 1:20:10him. because I think over the next few
- 1:20:13weeks he's going to have that breakout.
- 1:20:15People they're going to start targeting
- 1:20:17him,
- 1:20:19>> but they may not.
- 1:20:21>> Well, that's it. That is it. They
- 1:20:22[clears throat] are the two options.
- 1:20:24[laughter]
- 1:20:24>> They are the two options. You don't
- 1:20:25know. Um but I think once once he starts
- 1:20:28getting the ball thrown his way, he's
- 1:20:29going to light up the the the scores and
- 1:20:32he is going to he's you know, he may not
- 1:20:33score many touchdowns, but he's going to
- 1:20:35start putting the points back on the
- 1:20:36board. Um it's just a shock this year
- 1:20:39that you know he's had such a such a
- 1:20:43poor show this year. Um that may just
- 1:20:45down be down to the the sort of the
- 1:20:48offensive coordinator
- 1:20:50that hasn't really seen what he wants
- 1:20:52from him and that's why he's not
- 1:20:53targeting him.
- 1:20:54>> Yeah, I think that's fair. [snorts]
- 1:20:57>> Um waiver wire people to watch. We've
- 1:20:59already spoken about Tyler Shook and
- 1:21:01Bryce Young. Keep an eye on running back
- 1:21:03situations with Jonah Coleman, Emanuel
- 1:21:05Wilson, and Caleb Johnson. Obviously
- 1:21:06Wilson at Seattle, Caleb Johnson at
- 1:21:08Green Bay. The running back situation in
- 1:21:11Green Bay is not looking great at the
- 1:21:12moment. So see Caleb Johnson potentially
- 1:21:14getting some more volume. Trey Tucker is
- 1:21:16still on the waiver wire in a lot of
- 1:21:18leagues. Pick him up quickly because he
- 1:21:20is going to be scoring you a fair amount
- 1:21:22of points if this continues. Um and
- 1:21:24Dalton Schulz, big one to watch this
- 1:21:26week. If Nico Collins remains injured,
- 1:21:28he is a must start because he is going
- 1:21:30to be the prime target. Other than that,
- 1:21:33um, you've got to keep an eye on it
- 1:21:35really because if Nico Collins starts,
- 1:21:36then Dalton Schultz will get next to
- 1:21:37nothing. Um,
- 1:21:39>> yeah, I've I've just picked up uh I
- 1:21:42picked up Schultz on our league. So, um,
- 1:21:44>> yeah,
- 1:21:44>> I had Dallas Dallas got it with is
- 1:21:48obviously out for this uh for this next
- 1:21:49game. So, I picked him up and stuck him
- 1:21:51in my uh in my tight end slot. So, we're
- 1:21:54good.
- 1:21:55>> That's it. Hopefully, you can keep that
- 1:21:57most efficient tag going into next week.
- 1:21:59And
- 1:21:59>> you know, we'll see. We'll see. That's a
- 1:22:00That's a It's a good tag to have.
- 1:22:03>> It is. It is. But we move on to this
- 1:22:06week. As you can see, this is mine and
- 1:22:08Steve's predictions, and we're also
- 1:22:10going to get Lee's predictions this
- 1:22:11week. Um, we're going to rattle through
- 1:22:13these um as as quickly but as detailed
- 1:22:16as we can. And we're going to start off
- 1:22:17with Thursday Night Football. I'm going
- 1:22:19to keep as quiet as I can on this one
- 1:22:20because otherwise I'll go on for ages.
- 1:22:22It's Falcons at Packers. Me and Steve
- 1:22:24have both picked the Packers. And you
- 1:22:26think it's going to be Lee?
- 1:22:28>> Uh, Green Bay.
- 1:22:29>> Okay. However,
- 1:22:31>> however,
- 1:22:32this this is going to be interesting um
- 1:22:36because we've got Pennix coming back in
- 1:22:38to the lineup.
- 1:22:39>> We do.
- 1:22:40>> So, there is there is a different
- 1:22:41dynamic to this Atlanta offense.
- 1:22:46>> Mhm. [clears throat]
- 1:22:47>> But I think, you know, with Green Bay
- 1:22:50having the two games that they've just
- 1:22:52had, I think we're going to see
- 1:22:56them start turning up now. they're going
- 1:22:58to start bringing something to this game
- 1:23:00and I think this is going to be a
- 1:23:02fantastic game. I think it's going to be
- 1:23:06really high score um high score game for
- 1:23:08for Green Bay. Whether Atlantic can can
- 1:23:11reciprocate that um
- 1:23:14we'll see um we'll see how that pans
- 1:23:17out. But yeah, it's going to be a Green
- 1:23:18Bay win. Yeah, I mean look, despite
- 1:23:21Green Bay not being, you know, sort of
- 1:23:23firing on all cylinders, Jordan Love's
- 1:23:26only completed 52% of his passes so far
- 1:23:28this year, which is not great. But this
- 1:23:31is amongst an offensive line that's been
- 1:23:33peppered with injury. It's amongst a
- 1:23:36defense that that has been pretty solid
- 1:23:38to be fair. I mean, the pressure of the
- 1:23:39quarterback at a 45.6% rate through the
- 1:23:42first two weeks, which is good. Um, but
- 1:23:44is the short week and going to Lambo,
- 1:23:47which is never an easy trip to make
- 1:23:49either, going to be too much for the for
- 1:23:50the Falcons? I think so. I don't think
- 1:23:53Pennix is going to be I don't think
- 1:23:56we'll see the best of Pennix for a
- 1:23:57couple of weeks. I think it's going to
- 1:23:58take a while. He's coming back from an
- 1:23:59ACL. And having done my ACL a few weeks
- 1:24:02ago, I now appreciate how hard it is to
- 1:24:05come back and I'm not going back into
- 1:24:07elite sport. So, not far from it. So
- 1:24:10yeah, I think this is this one is I
- 1:24:12think we we both agreed that it's going
- 1:24:14to be
- 1:24:15>> a pretty straightforward Packers win,
- 1:24:17but
- 1:24:17>> Pennix could come back and be the wild
- 1:24:19card. We'll see.
- 1:24:22>> Benles
- 1:24:25go Pang Go. Go Pang Go there.
- 1:24:27>> Yeah, that's it. We love that.
- 1:24:29>> Bengals at Steelers. Uh we've got a
- 1:24:31change here for me and Steve. I'd pick
- 1:24:32the Steelers again. I'm going on the
- 1:24:34Aaron Rogers train. Probably shouldn't
- 1:24:35have done that. And Steve's picked the
- 1:24:37Bengals. Um, what do you think about
- 1:24:39this one? I mean, realistically,
- 1:24:41Cincinnati's defense has been
- 1:24:42incredible. We saw last week that Rogers
- 1:24:44against a decent defense looked awful.
- 1:24:47So, I I my my heart versus head
- 1:24:50prediction has gone horrendously wrong
- 1:24:51once already. I think it's going to go
- 1:24:52wrong again this week. But, what do you
- 1:24:54think?
- 1:24:55Um, I think the Steelers are going to be
- 1:24:58looking at the game tape from from the
- 1:25:00Bengals last two games and they're going
- 1:25:03to realize that
- 1:25:05Aaron's going to have to get rid of that
- 1:25:07ball pretty quick.
- 1:25:08>> Yeah.
- 1:25:09>> Is he he cannot hold on to that ball
- 1:25:12for too long now. if if the Bengals
- 1:25:15secondary can can shut down the uh the
- 1:25:19wide receivers um you know keep uh keep
- 1:25:24everyone in check then you know Rogers
- 1:25:26is going to have a really long day in
- 1:25:28that QB pocket and uh it's it's not
- 1:25:30going to look good.
- 1:25:32>> Um but yeah, I think you're I think you
- 1:25:34you you're living on a on a prayer
- 1:25:36there. I'm going to go for the Bengals
- 1:25:37on this one. I think it's just going to
- 1:25:38be Yeah, it's not looking good.
- 1:25:42>> No, I I think that's fair. I mean,
- 1:25:44there's a couple of injuries to keep an
- 1:25:45eye on. Ysef is uh got a thumb injury.
- 1:25:47He won't play. Uh Pittsburgh have had
- 1:25:50Warren and Dael both questionable this
- 1:25:52week. So, both of their running backs.
- 1:25:54That's not a great
- 1:25:56>> great thing. So, yeah, I I I'd love the
- 1:25:59Steelers to win. I'd love Rogers to just
- 1:26:01wake up and and remember who he is, but
- 1:26:05yeah, that that's the that's the path
- 1:26:06I'm going with this season. I'll pick
- 1:26:07the Steelers for every game, but uh
- 1:26:09yeah, I think you're right. Probably.
- 1:26:12Yeah.
- 1:26:12>> Next up, we've got the Pats at the Jags.
- 1:26:14Uh Ste and I have both picked the Jags
- 1:26:16for this one. Um how do you see this one
- 1:26:19going?
- 1:26:20>> I I think
- 1:26:23this this is this is going to be a
- 1:26:25really tight game. Um
- 1:26:29and I think it depends what version of
- 1:26:30Drake May we're going to have. Is this
- 1:26:32is this the Drake May that we're going
- 1:26:34to see who's who's careless with the
- 1:26:35ball, throwing the ball into into double
- 1:26:37coverage and getting picked off, or is
- 1:26:39this a Drake May that's going to be
- 1:26:42>> really looking at finding those holes,
- 1:26:44using his legs, getting rid of the ball
- 1:26:46quick,
- 1:26:48if that's the one we're going to see,
- 1:26:50we're going to see a Patriots win for
- 1:26:52sure. And I I I personally I think I'
- 1:26:54I've backed the Patriots in this two
- 1:26:56win.
- 1:26:57>> No, I haven't. I have I have I have
- 1:26:58actually picked the Jags. I've just
- 1:27:00realized I have picked the Jags. So,
- 1:27:01yeah, this is I picked the Jags, but I
- 1:27:03wouldn't be surprised if the Patriots
- 1:27:05win this one.
- 1:27:06>> Okay. I I mean, we I'm It's It's two
- 1:27:10things for me here. It's either
- 1:27:14Jacksonville's offense is as good as we
- 1:27:16as it's looked and is going to go over
- 1:27:18the Patriots defense, which is also very
- 1:27:21good, or the Jacksonville defense, which
- 1:27:24has allowed 6.1 yards per play and is
- 1:27:27not very good [laughter]
- 1:27:28going up against an offense that's
- 1:27:30struggling with Drake May. I It's going
- 1:27:32to be one of those two stories for me.
- 1:27:34And I I don't think
- 1:27:36I as I say I'm edging towards the Jags
- 1:27:38only because no AJ Brown, Drake Mays
- 1:27:41looked very very shaky to start the
- 1:27:43season and they don't have a great deal
- 1:27:46else in terms of that that sort of going
- 1:27:49through the air. Raandre Stevenson and
- 1:27:52Travian Henderson is a nice one-two
- 1:27:54punch, but like it's not the best.
- 1:27:56[laughter]
- 1:27:57>> Um so yeah, I I I think the Jags are who
- 1:28:00we're who we're gonna see here next
- 1:28:02game. Um, tank bowl question mark.
- 1:28:06Titans at Giants. Um, me and Steve have
- 1:28:09both got the Titans to win this one
- 1:28:11following the events of uh, of last
- 1:28:12week. What What do you think?
- 1:28:15>> I think Yeah, I think I think Robert
- 1:28:18Salah is is is now getting this Titans
- 1:28:21offense cooking. Um, you know, he's
- 1:28:23obviously defensive-minded coach, but,
- 1:28:25you know, I think he's his his style of
- 1:28:28coaching is is has got this Titans team
- 1:28:31where it should be. Now, they they put
- 1:28:32up a stellar performance against the
- 1:28:35Eagles, who are fantastic defensively,
- 1:28:38and they they found those holes. They
- 1:28:40they pushed the Eagles right to the
- 1:28:43edge. Um so, with a New York Giant,
- 1:28:47which have been
- 1:28:50have lost, you know, their their
- 1:28:52starting quarterback, and I know we've
- 1:28:54got Jameson Williams in there, James
- 1:28:57Jamie Winston,
- 1:28:59I don't think that's going to be enough.
- 1:29:00I think the Titans are going to just
- 1:29:03edge this one.
- 1:29:04>> Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me
- 1:29:06is like holding the Eagles to 89 rushing
- 1:29:09yards with and and that's a a team
- 1:29:11that's got Saquon Barkley in it. Um is
- 1:29:15enough to say to me that, you know,
- 1:29:17they've lost their quarterback, the
- 1:29:18Giants. Andrew Thomas is limited. Malik
- 1:29:21Neighbors is limited in practice
- 1:29:22yesterday as well. Brian Burns sat out.
- 1:29:25They're going to need the running game
- 1:29:26to be strong. And
- 1:29:29>> if you can neutralize Saquon Barkley,
- 1:29:32you can neutralize Cam Scataboo and
- 1:29:34Tyrone Tracy. That That's how I see it.
- 1:29:37I just don't think I think the more for
- 1:29:39more than anything though, the wind's
- 1:29:42been knocked out of New York's sales.
- 1:29:44>> Losing Jackson Dart like that is is
- 1:29:46something that's going to send waves
- 1:29:47through the locker room. And as good as
- 1:29:50Jameus Winston's motivational speeches
- 1:29:53are, uh I think he was talking about 53
- 1:29:56crab legs or something yesterday.
- 1:29:58>> Yeah.
- 1:29:58>> Um and I really like him. I just don't
- 1:30:01think that they've got it in them with
- 1:30:03all of those injuries and losing their
- 1:30:06key player to be able to to go over the
- 1:30:08Titans who look really good last week.
- 1:30:10>> Yeah.
- 1:30:10>> Um next one, one that you'll be keeping
- 1:30:13an eye on hoping that uh that they lose
- 1:30:15is the Seahawks at the Commanders. Um,
- 1:30:18we've both picked the Seahawks here. I
- 1:30:19think this one's, you know, pretty
- 1:30:21straightforward one.
- 1:30:22>> Straightforward one. Seahawks win this
- 1:30:24one. Yeah.
- 1:30:26>> Yeah. I mean, 37 points given up to
- 1:30:28Dallas last week for Washington. Marcus
- 1:30:30Mariota in at quarterback. Um, but and
- 1:30:34and when you've got Jackson Smith and
- 1:30:35Jigba who's got more uh more yards
- 1:30:39receiving than I think any quarterback
- 1:30:40that uh that Washington have had
- 1:30:43throwing. Um, that's something to be
- 1:30:45said. So, yeah. I mean, there's not much
- 1:30:48that needs to be said on this one
- 1:30:49really. Seattle are the much better
- 1:30:50team. The Commanders have been
- 1:30:51decimated. They've lost their their most
- 1:30:53important player. Um, and I just can't
- 1:30:57see a way that they'd get anywhere near
- 1:30:58them.
- 1:31:00>> Yep.
- 1:31:02>> I I can't I can't see anything. Yeah. I
- 1:31:04I can't see any any other score coming
- 1:31:06out of this one. You know, the Seahawks
- 1:31:08game move to 3-0 on the season on this
- 1:31:10on the season so far, I think. Yeah.
- 1:31:12>> No, I agree. Um, next up, Jets at Lions.
- 1:31:16Now, the Jets are my dark horse for the
- 1:31:18year. I've picked them to win here.
- 1:31:20Steve's picked the Lions, probably a bit
- 1:31:22more sensible, but there's some
- 1:31:25interesting storylines here. Aaron Glenn
- 1:31:27coming back to Detroit as the opposite
- 1:31:29opposition head coach. Um,
- 1:31:33the Jets defense has been good. They're
- 1:31:35third in DVOA, first against the run and
- 1:31:38sixth against the pass. Um,
- 1:31:42but it's it's two different things
- 1:31:43because the Lions have been able to put
- 1:31:45points on the board, but they've
- 1:31:46conceded a lot of points going up
- 1:31:48against a defense that's been very very
- 1:31:50solid, but struggled to score very much.
- 1:31:53So, where do you see this one? What do
- 1:31:55you see as as the the key decision
- 1:31:58points?
- 1:31:59>> I'm with you on this one. I think the
- 1:32:01Jets are going to edge this one. Um, not
- 1:32:06not to disrespect, you know, the lines.
- 1:32:08They are a fantastic team, but I think
- 1:32:12I think the Jets have have got that fire
- 1:32:14in their belly this year. And you know,
- 1:32:17after losing in that clutch moment
- 1:32:20against the Packers the week before,
- 1:32:22>> I think they're going to come out with
- 1:32:25with a little bit of a, you know, oomph
- 1:32:28in this game. And, you know, Aaron's
- 1:32:31Aaron Glenn's going to be hyping them up
- 1:32:33saying, "Let's take it. Let's take it to
- 1:32:36Detroit and let's put this win in and
- 1:32:40let's walk away with that dub. Um, so
- 1:32:42yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you on this one.
- 1:32:44I think the Jets are going to Jets are
- 1:32:46going to edge this one.
- 1:32:48>> I mean, I hope so. I've got Breeze Hall
- 1:32:50and Garrett Wilson in a couple of
- 1:32:51leagues, so I could quite do with it,
- 1:32:53especially with um Avante Maddox is out
- 1:32:55for the season. Brian Branch and Kirby
- 1:32:57Joseph both still remain unavailable in
- 1:32:58that Detroit secondary. So, they are
- 1:33:00very, very thin at safety. Um, yeah, I
- 1:33:04think this is going to be be the Jets
- 1:33:06and and not to forget Aaron Glenn knows
- 1:33:08this offense.
- 1:33:09>> He he was the defensive coordinator, but
- 1:33:11you know that in in practice, he's going
- 1:33:13up against it every week. So,
- 1:33:16>> it'll be interesting to see, you know,
- 1:33:18quite how well the Jets defense does
- 1:33:20against this Lions offense. Um, but
- 1:33:23yeah, next one we've got Panthers at
- 1:33:24Browns. Uh Steve and I have both picked
- 1:33:26the Panthers for this one despite how
- 1:33:28well the Browns played last week,
- 1:33:30>> but they played a bad team in the books.
- 1:33:35>> The Panthers have looked a lot better
- 1:33:37than they had the last couple of
- 1:33:38seasons. How do you see this one going?
- 1:33:42>> I think you you you both nailed this
- 1:33:44one. It's going to be a Panthers um
- 1:33:46Panthers winning this one. They're
- 1:33:47looking hot. They're looking they're
- 1:33:49looking good. Um Bryce Young is is he's
- 1:33:52is he's he's slinging that ball really
- 1:33:55well. Um and I think this is the you
- 1:33:59know sort of the the welcome home game
- 1:34:02for the Browns where they're just going
- 1:34:03to go okay yeah we last week was a bit
- 1:34:06of a fluke against the Bucks. Um and I
- 1:34:09think I think the the Panthers are going
- 1:34:12to take care of business in the in the
- 1:34:14dog pound
- 1:34:15>> and we're going to see an easy easy win
- 1:34:18by then. Yeah, I mean it's there's a
- 1:34:21couple of interesting parts here. Like
- 1:34:22Carolina can't seem to stop the run. Uh
- 1:34:24but Cleveland can't run the ball, so
- 1:34:27something's got to give there, I guess.
- 1:34:29Um and Bryce Young has thrown six
- 1:34:32touchdowns to one interception. Um I'm
- 1:34:36not sure. There's a couple of injuries
- 1:34:37for for Carolina. Devin Lloyd, Jaylen
- 1:34:39Phillips, [clears throat] and Nick
- 1:34:40Scott. So that's three really key
- 1:34:43defensive players for Carolina. But
- 1:34:47you've got to establish the run game.
- 1:34:50>> Yeah.
- 1:34:50>> And I I don't know. I I just I just
- 1:34:55think that
- 1:34:56Carolina's
- 1:34:58even though they are so bad against the
- 1:35:00run, Cleveland's inability to establish
- 1:35:02that ground game will leave Deshaawn
- 1:35:04Watson having to play hero ball. And I
- 1:35:07don't think he's going to be able to do
- 1:35:08it against an offense like Carolina that
- 1:35:10are just scoring points for fun at the
- 1:35:12moment.
- 1:35:12>> Yeah. No, [snorts] absolutely. I think
- 1:35:15you're absolutely right there and you
- 1:35:16know I think we're going to see a
- 1:35:18different side to to Shaun Watson. Um
- 1:35:20you know he he put up a fairly good game
- 1:35:23against the box but against this
- 1:35:26Carolina defense I think he's going to
- 1:35:28he's going to get picked off a couple of
- 1:35:29times. He's going to you know the the
- 1:35:32talks of bringing Shadu back into the
- 1:35:34into the mix is going to come back in
- 1:35:36after this game I think. So we'll see.
- 1:35:40>> No, I agree. U next one I think is going
- 1:35:42to be quite straightforward. Chiefs at
- 1:35:43Dolphins. There is uh nobody in the
- 1:35:46world, even Dolphins fans, that think
- 1:35:48they're going to win this one. No.
- 1:35:49>> Um this is a horrendous mismatch.
- 1:35:53>> I can I can quite honestly see Kenneth
- 1:35:56Walker rushing for 200 yards in this
- 1:35:58game. If he's going to do it against
- 1:35:59anyone,
- 1:36:01>> it's it's going to be this this this
- 1:36:03awful Miami team. Um do you think they
- 1:36:06make it competitive
- 1:36:08or do you think it's just going to be a
- 1:36:11complete blowout?
- 1:36:14H let's have a score prediction. So I
- 1:36:16think it's going to be
- 1:36:19I think it's going to be
- 1:36:2440 points to nine in favor of the
- 1:36:27Chiefs. I think the only nine points
- 1:36:29that the uh the Dolphins are going to
- 1:36:31score three field goals. I think that's
- 1:36:33that's being generous. [snorts]
- 1:36:35>> No, I think you're probably right there.
- 1:36:37I just can't I can see them putting up a
- 1:36:40duck egg. Honestly, I I don't think that
- 1:36:42they've got anything.
- 1:36:43>> Um Steve, if you are out there, if for
- 1:36:45is 49 a score a gami, you know, these
- 1:36:47things.
- 1:36:48>> Um
- 1:36:49>> but yeah, I I don't think there's much.
- 1:36:52You know, the question isn't who wins,
- 1:36:54it's just whether Miami, you know,
- 1:36:56completely collapse or try and put some
- 1:36:58points on the board, but we'll see.
- 1:37:00>> If if I'm Kansas City here, I'm winning
- 1:37:02the game in the first half and pulling
- 1:37:04Momes. I I'm not leaving them out there.
- 1:37:06That is just danger.
- 1:37:08>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't do
- 1:37:10anything stupid. Once you get that sort
- 1:37:12of that nice buffer zone, get your
- 1:37:15second strings in there. Look after your
- 1:37:17look after your primaries and just watch
- 1:37:19the game plot click tick tick down and
- 1:37:21just uh walk out of there,
- 1:37:23>> walk out of the uh the fishbowl as as
- 1:37:25best you can. I think
- 1:37:27>> it'll be interesting to see what you
- 1:37:28know what sort of crowds do Dolphins
- 1:37:30bring in. You know, I remember watching
- 1:37:32the um the Bucks game and you know,
- 1:37:34looking at the crowd when they went down
- 1:37:36to sort of ground level and looking at
- 1:37:37the looking at the crowd around the uh
- 1:37:39sort of the bowl and just seeing so many
- 1:37:42empty seats.
- 1:37:43>> Um you know,
- 1:37:46I don't think they're going to have much
- 1:37:48of the crowd in the uh in the Hard Rock
- 1:37:52Stadium at the the Dolphins. I don't
- 1:37:54think so. [snorts]
- 1:37:56>> No, me neither. Um, next up we've got a
- 1:37:59two and0 team versus an 0 and2 team.
- 1:38:01It's Buffalo uh at home against the LA
- 1:38:05Chargers. Ste and I have both picked the
- 1:38:06Bills. What do you reckon on this one,
- 1:38:09Lee?
- 1:38:10>> Yeah, it's it's it's a tough one, isn't
- 1:38:12it? You got Josh Allen, you know,
- 1:38:15you know, potential MVP for this season
- 1:38:17going up against a a you know, Bolt team
- 1:38:21which haven't seem to be sparking on on
- 1:38:24offense. defense isn't looking too bad,
- 1:38:27but I think I think uh Josh Allen's
- 1:38:30going to going to take care of business
- 1:38:32um in in Buffalo and and make sure that
- 1:38:36you know that
- 1:38:38all the doubters out there are you know
- 1:38:40put put to rest and and you know the
- 1:38:43Bills are going to walk away with the
- 1:38:44dub on this one.
- 1:38:46>> Yeah, [snorts] I think that's fair.
- 1:38:47Also, just just so that the audience
- 1:38:50hasn't missed it, if you have the uh the
- 1:38:53electricity metaphors that went up
- 1:38:55there, I did appre I did hear them. I
- 1:38:57did appreciate them. The Bolts finding
- 1:38:59this need to find the spark on offense.
- 1:39:00I did like that. Um but Buffalo's
- 1:39:04defense hasn't been great. You know, 31
- 1:39:07points against in both games. So, if
- 1:39:09Herbert can wake up and and you know,
- 1:39:12find something here, then, you know,
- 1:39:15it's going to be a shootout. I back Josh
- 1:39:17Allen in a shootout every day of the
- 1:39:18week, but it could make it interesting.
- 1:39:21>> So, yeah, we've all gone for the Bills
- 1:39:23on that one. Next up, we've got the
- 1:39:25Texans at the Colts. Um, Ste and I have
- 1:39:28both gone for the Texans. Um, the angle
- 1:39:32here for me is that even though both
- 1:39:34teams are 0 and2, they've both shown
- 1:39:36enough to suggest that they're better
- 1:39:38than their records. The Colts obviously
- 1:39:40nearly nearly beaten KC last week.
- 1:39:42Houston's defense though gives me more
- 1:39:44than enough confidence to to say that
- 1:39:46they're going to take this one though.
- 1:39:49>> I think looking at the Colts last week
- 1:39:52um against the the Chiefs,
- 1:39:55I think people are sleeping on them. Um
- 1:39:58and I'm I actually backed the Colts to
- 1:40:00win in Lucas Oil Stadium this time. So,
- 1:40:02I'm I'm I'm going to go against the
- 1:40:04grain here and and back the Colts. I
- 1:40:07think they've uh
- 1:40:09they've got a lot more to prove and I
- 1:40:12think, you know, with a third loss under
- 1:40:15the Texans belts, then there's going to
- 1:40:17be, you know, sort of alarm bells going
- 1:40:18off uh around the the AFC South. Um and
- 1:40:24yeah, you know, see what see what
- 1:40:26happens in uh in Lucas Oil Stadium on on
- 1:40:29Sun.
- 1:40:30[snorts]
- 1:40:31>> Interesting. I mean, I I've I wasn't
- 1:40:34expecting that to be completely honest.
- 1:40:36So, we'll we'll we'll see it it to be
- 1:40:38honest though.
- 1:40:42If Nico Collins is out, I can I can see
- 1:40:45it. I can see it to a degree, but I just
- 1:40:47think their defense is too good. Whereas
- 1:40:49the Chiefs's defense isn't very good.
- 1:40:52It's not a strong defense.
- 1:40:54>> So, yeah, Alec Pierce has just gone to
- 1:40:57IR as well for the Colts. So, that's a
- 1:41:00>> horrendously overpaid wide receiver
- 1:41:02that's now sitting. Um, but yeah, so
- 1:41:05we'll see. We'll see how that goes next
- 1:41:06week when we come back. If if you've uh
- 1:41:09made us look silly, then then we will
- 1:41:11[laughter] uh
- 1:41:12>> I'll be back on the show. I'll be back
- 1:41:13on the show. I told you. I told you.
- 1:41:18>> Next up, we've got what again will be a
- 1:41:21given. I think it's the cards at the
- 1:41:23NerS.
- 1:41:25There is a big question here though. A
- 1:41:29big question. Yeah,
- 1:41:30>> Brock Pery has got shoulder and toe
- 1:41:33issues and has been come out today um
- 1:41:36and said that he is highly unlikely to
- 1:41:38start which means M. Jones is going to
- 1:41:41start for the Ners. That changes the
- 1:41:44complexion of the game slightly because
- 1:41:47the interior for San Francisco
- 1:41:51isn't strong at the moment. They've lost
- 1:41:54a couple of defensive tackles and
- 1:41:55they've struggled against the run. The
- 1:41:58Cardinals with Jeremiah Love and Tyler
- 1:42:00Algier have established a decent run
- 1:42:01game to start with. If they can keep the
- 1:42:04ball away from the Niners offense, if
- 1:42:06they can sustain long drives, establish
- 1:42:08the run and keep the clock moving,
- 1:42:11can the N the Cardinals put up more of a
- 1:42:14fight than we think that they would do?
- 1:42:18>> No. I think, you know, even with M.
- 1:42:20Jones is as in QB. I think, you know,
- 1:42:24when you've got the playmakers like
- 1:42:26McCaffrey, when you've got K, you know,
- 1:42:28just running those, you know, small, you
- 1:42:30know, the uh the short dig routes and,
- 1:42:33you know, Matt Jones isn't going to be
- 1:42:35asked to throw the ball deep every time.
- 1:42:37He's he can check [clears throat] down.
- 1:42:38He can throw the ball just on the other
- 1:42:40line other side of the line of
- 1:42:41scrimmage. And I think they can get that
- 1:42:43ball moving. Um and you know we're going
- 1:42:46to see a competitive 49ers coming out of
- 1:42:50the gate. Um
- 1:42:53and you know the the cards I I I again I
- 1:42:57don't think they're going to be
- 1:42:58competitive in this one even without you
- 1:43:00know without Brock Purley um in a QB but
- 1:43:04yeah my my money is going to be on the
- 1:43:06niner still even though we know Pery's
- 1:43:09out. Yeah, I think I'm I'm relatively on
- 1:43:13the same in the same boat. I think it's
- 1:43:15it's always interesting when you see a
- 1:43:18backup QB come in. Um, and especially,
- 1:43:22you know, with with that front not being
- 1:43:24as as as strong for San Francisco and
- 1:43:26they've been a bit weak against the run.
- 1:43:28That could be somewhere where if I'm
- 1:43:31Arizona, I'm looking at that and I'm
- 1:43:32going, "Okay, we're running up the
- 1:43:33middle. We're just abs we're just going
- 1:43:35to batter them up the middle and keep it
- 1:43:36going and keep it going." But I just
- 1:43:38think when that 49ers offense come on
- 1:43:41the field,
- 1:43:43they will lean on the run a bit more,
- 1:43:45which means McAffrey is going to get
- 1:43:46more touches and if he gets more
- 1:43:47touches, he's going to make more plays
- 1:43:49and so on and so on. 49ers win. So yeah,
- 1:43:52I think I think you're right there.
- 1:43:53>> Uh again, another 2 and 0 team against
- 1:43:56an 0 and2 team. It's the Vikings at the
- 1:43:58books. However, me and Ste have both
- 1:44:01picked the books for this one because
- 1:44:04for me,
- 1:44:06the Vikings have not set the world al
- 1:44:09light. The worrying part is Brian Flores
- 1:44:12does blitz a lot of the a lot of the
- 1:44:15time and Mayfield has been historically
- 1:44:18effective against pressure. He's very
- 1:44:21good at eluding pressure. He's very good
- 1:44:22at extending plays outside the pocket
- 1:44:26and the books have lost narrowly both
- 1:44:29weeks. So, is this a case where
- 1:44:33Minnesota have kind of got on a little
- 1:44:37bit of a roll and and they've, you know,
- 1:44:40kind of won games where they m maybe
- 1:44:42shouldn't have won games
- 1:44:46and the books losing games where they
- 1:44:48probably should have won them.
- 1:44:51What do you what do you think the story
- 1:44:52is here? How how do you think this one's
- 1:44:53going to go?
- 1:44:54>> So, yeah, I I I think you're absolutely
- 1:44:56right. I think, you know, the box are
- 1:44:58now due a win. You know, it's
- 1:45:01you know, to lose three games on a
- 1:45:04bounce, I think is,
- 1:45:07you know, is is quite hard to do unless
- 1:45:09you're the Dolphins. Um,
- 1:45:12[laughter]
- 1:45:14just I I I don't think it's is it's
- 1:45:17going to be possible. And I think, you
- 1:45:19know, the the trip from Minnesota down
- 1:45:22to down to Tampa Bay area, you know,
- 1:45:25you're still going to be dealing with
- 1:45:26with quite high levels of heat. Yeah,
- 1:45:30heat will play a key factor in this in
- 1:45:33this game. Um,
- 1:45:36and you know, the Vikings have been
- 1:45:38winning
- 1:45:41somehow, but I just think that somehow
- 1:45:44is going to come to an end against this
- 1:45:45game. Um, so I think it's it's just one
- 1:45:48of those games which I think, you know,
- 1:45:50everyone's going to expect the Vikings
- 1:45:52to go down there and take care of
- 1:45:53business. And I think the Bucks are
- 1:45:56going to get their first win of the
- 1:45:57season.
- 1:45:59>> Yeah, I I I think I'm with you on that
- 1:46:01one. Like Kyler Murray is back. He's
- 1:46:03cleared concussion protocol, so he's
- 1:46:04back uh to start this week. But I just
- 1:46:08don't again that offense is not It
- 1:46:12doesn't have a great run game. Jordan
- 1:46:14Mason's out. Aaron Jones is is he's gone
- 1:46:18over the hill. Justin Jefferson is
- 1:46:21obviously a wild card. He is he is
- 1:46:23Justin Jefferson. But ultimately, you
- 1:46:25know,
- 1:46:27Tamper have got to start
- 1:46:30having a little bit of luck [laughter]
- 1:46:32to be honest because they they've been
- 1:46:33unlucky. Um and I think Baker's due a
- 1:46:36bounce back. I think he'll be fuming
- 1:46:38after that performance against Cleveland
- 1:46:40last week and I think he's going to come
- 1:46:43out in like angry. When Baker gets
- 1:46:46angry, I fear to be I wouldn't want to
- 1:46:48be the other team. So yeah, I think that
- 1:46:51the books take this one. Um, next up and
- 1:46:54an interesting thing where the Raiders
- 1:46:57have got a better record than the
- 1:46:58Saints. They're going at 2 and0 to one
- 1:47:00and one for the Saints, but we've both
- 1:47:02picked the Saints. Um, I imagine you're
- 1:47:04going for the Saints as well, Lee, based
- 1:47:06on what they done today so far.
- 1:47:08>> Yeah, absolutely. I think this the
- 1:47:11Saints are, you know, they are
- 1:47:14it's going to be a tight one between
- 1:47:15them and the Panthers, but I'm I'm going
- 1:47:17to edge towards the Saints. I think
- 1:47:19they've had uh, you know, Kell Moore is
- 1:47:22is got this team into the rhythm that he
- 1:47:25wants to go to, and I think he's going
- 1:47:26to
- 1:47:28he's going to quieten down the the the
- 1:47:31Raiders hype, I believe. and you know
- 1:47:33and to for them to travel to from Vegas
- 1:47:35all the way down to New Orleans. I think
- 1:47:37it's going to be an interesting match,
- 1:47:39but I think the the Saints will take
- 1:47:42care of business.
- 1:47:44>> Yeah, I mean I I I agree. Tyler Shook's
- 1:47:48been very good. He's leading the league
- 1:47:50in passing yards with 662.
- 1:47:53Um there's a couple of concerns for New
- 1:47:56Orleans at the moment. One is that
- 1:47:57Kelvin Banks Jr. is out indefinitely
- 1:47:59with a high ankle sprain. So, they've
- 1:48:01got to replace their left tackle, which
- 1:48:03is never an easy position to replace.
- 1:48:05Um, Brock Bowowers is back in practice
- 1:48:08yesterday after missing the first two
- 1:48:10games with his knee. Um, and can Kirk
- 1:48:14Cousins keep keep doing what he's doing?
- 1:48:17Because again, if if he can limit the
- 1:48:21mistakes and and find these players
- 1:48:24because Brock Bows is going to take a
- 1:48:25lot of attention. That's going to free
- 1:48:27up your Trey Tuckers. that's going to
- 1:48:28free up, you know, like looking at last
- 1:48:30week, the guy that come off the practice
- 1:48:32squad and and scored two touchdowns. So,
- 1:48:33like that, you know,
- 1:48:35>> the Raiders at the moment, Clint Kubak,
- 1:48:38>> great offensive coordinator last year
- 1:48:40for the um
- 1:48:42>> for the Seahawks getting them the Super
- 1:48:44Bowl and gone into the Raiders, they've
- 1:48:45started 2 and0, but I think based on how
- 1:48:47New Orleans have been in fourth quarters
- 1:48:49against very good teams,
- 1:48:51>> much better teams than the Raiders,
- 1:48:53let's let's call it how it is. I think
- 1:48:55the Saints the Saints have got this one.
- 1:48:58>> Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:49:00>> Uh, next up we have got the Ravens
- 1:49:02versus I don't like the fact they're
- 1:49:04called America's team, but America's
- 1:49:06team, the Dallas Cowboys. I've got the
- 1:49:08Cowboys winning. Ste's got the Ravens.
- 1:49:11And I imagine you're going to go for the
- 1:49:13Ravens here.
- 1:49:15>> I honestly don't know what you're
- 1:49:16smoking, but yeah, I'm going to be going
- 1:49:18for the Ravens here. I don't know how
- 1:49:20you think the Cowboys are going to walk
- 1:49:22away with a with a victory here. Um, you
- 1:49:24know, the Ravens lost um lost out last
- 1:49:28week and I, you know, they're going to
- 1:49:29be coming out fighting. Um, and you
- 1:49:32know, they they're going to have a point
- 1:49:34to prove and you know, they're going to
- 1:49:36they're going to expose the Dallas
- 1:49:39defense for what it really is, which is
- 1:49:42a shocking shocking team. Um, you know,
- 1:49:47Dak Prescott and CD Lamb and and you
- 1:49:50know, pickings, they're going to find
- 1:49:52the end zone a few times,
- 1:49:54>> but the Baltimore Ravens, you know, we
- 1:49:57we're going to see a triple touchdown
- 1:49:59from Derk Henry. We're going to see
- 1:50:02multiple touchdowns in the air, you
- 1:50:05know, from from Lamar Jackson. It's
- 1:50:07going to be a scorefest for for for the
- 1:50:09Raiders.
- 1:50:11Well, there is a wild card here and that
- 1:50:13is that this is at the Maranar in Rio de
- 1:50:15Janeiro. The humidity is going to be
- 1:50:17horrendous. The Ravens play in Baltimore
- 1:50:20where it's traditionally quite cold and
- 1:50:22and not very humid. Um Z Flowers, Ronny
- 1:50:25Stanley, Trey Hendrickson could all be
- 1:50:27missing the game as well, which are big
- 1:50:29players for the Ravens. Um
- 1:50:32the the thing for me is
- 1:50:37they're a much better team than New
- 1:50:40Orleans are
- 1:50:43>> and they lost last week against New
- 1:50:45Orleans. The Ravens did.
- 1:50:46>> Yeah.
- 1:50:47>> Collapsed in the fourth quarter. CD Lamb
- 1:50:50top five wide receiver in the league.
- 1:50:53>> I think that George Pickings is a great
- 1:50:55number two as well. Stretches the field
- 1:50:57really, really well.
- 1:50:58>> Yeah. If Baltimore can establish the run
- 1:51:01though and go up the middle with Derek
- 1:51:03Henry, I think that, you know, that's
- 1:51:05where that's where they'll win. But I I
- 1:51:08personally think that if it's a
- 1:51:10shootout, Dallas win. I just I just
- 1:51:12think that Dak's got the ability. He's
- 1:51:14got the weapons. And
- 1:51:18from what I saw of the Ravens last week
- 1:51:21against the Saints,
- 1:51:24I can't see a world where they're not
- 1:51:26going to allow those big plays because
- 1:51:29that's what Tyler Shook was living off.
- 1:51:30He was living off just finding a larae
- 1:51:32down the field and just having the space
- 1:51:34to do so. And when you've got somebody
- 1:51:36like Dak who is that's that's what he
- 1:51:39does and he's got CD Lamb and George
- 1:51:41Pickings, I think they're going to eat
- 1:51:43up yardage.
- 1:51:45>> [snorts]
- 1:51:46>> They would be more sensible, I think, to
- 1:51:47try and keep them off the field and
- 1:51:48extend like keep the clock rolling, but
- 1:51:50I think if it's a shootout, Dallas win
- 1:51:52and that's what I think it's going to
- 1:51:53be.
- 1:51:53>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:51:57>> Yeah. I'm I'm still going to back the
- 1:51:59Raiders. I think, you know, even though
- 1:52:01Dallas obviously used to playing in the
- 1:52:03heat um down there in in Texas, I think,
- 1:52:07>> you know, they play in an air
- 1:52:08conditioning stadium. um the heat
- 1:52:10doesn't really become a factor and it's
- 1:52:12more of a dry heat in in Texas than a
- 1:52:14than a than a wet heat. Um so I think
- 1:52:16both teams are going to be
- 1:52:17disadvantaged. So I I I I still think
- 1:52:19it's going to be uh a Ravens scorefest
- 1:52:24in my opinion.
- 1:52:26>> That's fair. Uh we'll move on to Sunday
- 1:52:28night football. It's the Rams at the
- 1:52:30Broncos. Um Matteo, you'll be happy I've
- 1:52:32picked the Broncos. Uh Steve's gone for
- 1:52:34the Rams. And also I I I don't like the
- 1:52:36Rams. on fraud watch still, which is why
- 1:52:38I've picked the Broncos. [laughter] Um,
- 1:52:41obviously here you've got Stafford
- 1:52:43coming off a great performance last
- 1:52:44week. The Rams looking like the Rams
- 1:52:46even without Puka. Um, the Broncos,
- 1:52:50anyone going to mile high, and I say
- 1:52:52this every year, going to Mile High is
- 1:52:54the hardest place to go in the league.
- 1:52:56The altitude is if if any of you out
- 1:52:58there have have been anywhere that's at
- 1:53:01altitude, even walking around, it's not
- 1:53:04nice. It is it just it it completely
- 1:53:07like takes it out of you. Um LA
- 1:53:10obviously on a short week this week if
- 1:53:13Denver can sort of keep Stafford
- 1:53:15uncomfortable um and the Denver
- 1:53:17secondary is very good as well. Pat
- 1:53:19Satan in there.
- 1:53:20>> Yeah.
- 1:53:21>> I think that Denver have got if provided
- 1:53:23Bicks keeps it simple, Denver take this
- 1:53:26one. What do you think about this one?
- 1:53:29Um, I mean, I've picked the Rams because
- 1:53:32it's the Rams and, you know, they they
- 1:53:35are the Super Bowl favorites to get
- 1:53:40there. Um, you know, you've got
- 1:53:43two fantastic offensiveminded head
- 1:53:47coaches in Shawn Payton [clears throat]
- 1:53:48>> and Shawn McVey.
- 1:53:50>> Um,
- 1:53:53there's going to be lots of factors to
- 1:53:54this. You're absolutely right. Yeah, my
- 1:53:56house my Ohio high stadium is going to
- 1:53:58be one of the key factors,
- 1:54:01but I just can't see I can't see the
- 1:54:03Rams not doing Rams things. I think
- 1:54:07they're going to they're going to go in
- 1:54:08there and and
- 1:54:10defense are going to shut down Bon
- 1:54:13Knicks. I think their offense, you know,
- 1:54:17Stafford's just going to find his his
- 1:54:19open receivers regardless.
- 1:54:23um if Patan is, you know, running crazy
- 1:54:26in the backfield, you know, it's it's
- 1:54:28it's going to be it's going to be a
- 1:54:30tight game, but
- 1:54:31>> but I think it's the Rams are going to
- 1:54:34take care of business in a in a
- 1:54:35fantastic Sunday night game.
- 1:54:37>> Yeah. I think it's one of those games
- 1:54:39where like prime time quite often
- 1:54:42disappoints.
- 1:54:43>> Yeah.
- 1:54:44>> But this is one that I think is is going
- 1:54:47to be a very very mustwatch game to be
- 1:54:50honest. One of the games of the week.
- 1:54:52Um,
- 1:54:53on to the next one which is Monday Night
- 1:54:55Football which you'll be looking forward
- 1:54:57to this week with no Cayla Williams.
- 1:55:00Eagles at Bears. We've both gone the
- 1:55:02Eagles here, me and Ste. And I I no
- 1:55:05guesses who you've gone for this week.
- 1:55:09>> But yeah, I I I'll let you I'll let you
- 1:55:11take the lead on this one because
- 1:55:12because you've got a lot more inside
- 1:55:14knowledge on the Eagles than than I do.
- 1:55:16So where where do you see the
- 1:55:19weaknesses? Where do you see Chicago
- 1:55:21keeping this competitive? Let's turn it
- 1:55:22around from from why the Eagles a win.
- 1:55:24Let's what what could challenge the
- 1:55:25Eagles here from a Caleb Williams lus
- 1:55:28Chicago Bears team?
- 1:55:30>> So, it's it's going to be the Bears
- 1:55:32defense making trouble for the for the
- 1:55:35Eagles offense. They know that their
- 1:55:37offensive line is is currently beat up,
- 1:55:39missing Landon Dickinson in in the
- 1:55:42middle. Um you've got players out of
- 1:55:45position. Um, so they're going to try
- 1:55:48and take it up the middle as much as
- 1:55:49possible. Um, they're going to be
- 1:55:52throwing out stunts and and trying to
- 1:55:54run it up the middle. Um, and if they
- 1:55:56can shut down the run game with with
- 1:55:58Saquon Barkley and and Tank Bixby and
- 1:56:01and um and and the other guys,
- 1:56:06they they could force Jaylen to to put
- 1:56:08the ball in the air. Um,
- 1:56:12and you know, if if if the Bears
- 1:56:14secondary are as as as
- 1:56:16good as what they've been showing over
- 1:56:18the last few weeks, you know, this could
- 1:56:19be a problem for the Eagles.
- 1:56:22>> But, you know, the Eagles will put
- 1:56:25points on the boards. It's whether the
- 1:56:28Bears can be competitive.
- 1:56:31>> Yeah.
- 1:56:31>> On their offensive side of the ball. Um,
- 1:56:34you know, Roman Dun, you know, how much
- 1:56:37of how much of the ball is he gonna be
- 1:56:39seeing,
- 1:56:40>> um, you know, we just heard from, um,
- 1:56:43obviously from Nate that, you know,
- 1:56:46Tyler, was it Tyler Beant? Is it there?
- 1:56:49>> Yeah, Tyson Beant can look like Keenum
- 1:56:53is going to be the starter for Chicago.
- 1:56:56>> Case Keenum in 2026.
- 1:56:58>> Jeez, I thought he retired. Honestly, I
- 1:57:00didn't [laughter]
- 1:57:01still in the league. He's he's he must
- 1:57:04be sitting on the he must have been
- 1:57:05sitting on the practice squad and he's
- 1:57:06just been elevated. Um
- 1:57:09>> what happens when he goes down?
- 1:57:11>> Well, that's it. Who's next? [laughter]
- 1:57:13>> Who's who's next? You know, we remember
- 1:57:15that. Yeah.
- 1:57:16>> I don't know.
- 1:57:18>> He's still on podcast saying he wants to
- 1:57:20play. So, you know,
- 1:57:21>> he's still there. He's still there. It's
- 1:57:24bringing Cam Ward. You know who else who
- 1:57:26else we got? We've got we've got loads
- 1:57:28of players who's wanting to come back.
- 1:57:30Um
- 1:57:32>> yeah, I yeah, I I this is going to be an
- 1:57:34Eagles win is is what form of Bears
- 1:57:39offense we see. Um you know, Ben Johnson
- 1:57:42obviously he's again he's one of those
- 1:57:45underrated sort of um offensive
- 1:57:48masterminds. Um
- 1:57:51you know, but we we saw him struggle
- 1:57:52against, you know, a a mediocre
- 1:57:57you know, Minnesota Vikings team last
- 1:57:59week. So, how was how was
- 1:58:01>> how was their third string quarterback
- 1:58:04going to be
- 1:58:05playing against the Eagles where, you
- 1:58:07know, arguably, you know, again, a top
- 1:58:1110 defense for the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 1:58:13It's uh
- 1:58:13>> yeah,
- 1:58:14>> you know, it's it's it's going to be
- 1:58:15tough for for them to move the ball and
- 1:58:18I think the Eagles are just going to
- 1:58:21>> take care of business. It's not going to
- 1:58:22be an exciting game, I don't think, but
- 1:58:23it's going to be an easy
- 1:58:27I I I think you're right there. I The
- 1:58:29only way that I can see this being
- 1:58:32anywhere near close is if Chicago
- 1:58:34established that run. Um obviously last
- 1:58:37year when they beat you, they ran for
- 1:58:40281 yards. So that is something and
- 1:58:44especially with like you say all the
- 1:58:45mismatch positions and injuries in the
- 1:58:47offensive line, that's something to keep
- 1:58:48an eye on. Um, but you know, I I just
- 1:58:53think that the Eagles are too much. I
- 1:58:56player for player at the moment and
- 1:58:58especially when you're down to Case
- 1:58:59Keenum, if that's if that's the genuine
- 1:59:01best available option for you as a team,
- 1:59:04then you're struggling a little bit. Um,
- 1:59:07so yeah, I think the Eagles take this on
- 1:59:08on prime time. I don't think it's going
- 1:59:10to be as good of a prime time game as
- 1:59:11the the Sunday night game, but it'll be
- 1:59:14a good game nonetheless. Saying that,
- 1:59:16all the prime time games this week,
- 1:59:18Thursday night, Sunday night, and also
- 1:59:20Monday night, all look like they're not
- 1:59:22going to be too bad this week. They all
- 1:59:24they all seem like they're going to be
- 1:59:25decent matchups.
- 1:59:26>> Um, so we are rapidly running out of
- 1:59:31time. So, the audible call this week we
- 1:59:33are going to skip, but we're going to go
- 1:59:34to the two-minute warning. The way we do
- 1:59:36this two-minute warning, uh, Lee, is
- 1:59:38this is two bold predictions, hot takes,
- 1:59:40anything you want. This is this is what
- 1:59:42we're after. So, like, who do you think
- 1:59:44is going to be the MVP? any any crazy
- 1:59:46stuff that you think that we can look
- 1:59:48back and and go well in week three Lee
- 1:59:50said this and it was right or it was
- 1:59:52wrong.
- 1:59:53>> So I think my bold prediction is going
- 1:59:55to be
- 1:59:58Tyler Shook offensive MVP.
- 2:00:02>> Okay.
- 2:00:04>> I think
- 2:00:05>> yeah I think he's he's going to he's
- 2:00:08going to progress this season. This is
- 2:00:09obviously his second season in the the
- 2:00:11NFL. second season with the with the
- 2:00:13Saints. And I think with
- 2:00:16uh Kell Moore, I think he is going to be
- 2:00:20he's going to develop as a really good
- 2:00:22QB. Um you know, he's he's
- 2:00:24[clears throat] he's obviously been
- 2:00:25compared as a as a um a cheap man's uh
- 2:00:30Josh Allen. And I think that's that's
- 2:00:32putting a bit of fire on his belly. And
- 2:00:34I think he's going to come out and yeah,
- 2:00:36he's going to be my uh my my
- 2:00:39offensive MVP for this year.
- 2:00:41Okay. Interesting. And what about one
- 2:00:45thing that you're seeing that nobody
- 2:00:48else is seeing at the moment? Something
- 2:00:49that's like completely completely left
- 2:00:52field.
- 2:00:55>> Okay. So, I mean, I think you you
- 2:00:58already covered it there. The Jets. I
- 2:01:00think we we are underestimating the Jets
- 2:01:02in this one. I think the Jets are
- 2:01:04they're going to be sneaky good this
- 2:01:07year. I think they're going to be, you
- 2:01:09know, compared to where they were last
- 2:01:11year, um, you know, they're in a a
- 2:01:14highly competitive uh, AFC East.
- 2:01:18>> Mhm.
- 2:01:20>> But could we could we see them could we
- 2:01:22see them in the playoffs as a wild card
- 2:01:26team?
- 2:01:26>> That's what I that's what I said. That's
- 2:01:28what I said in in week week two of
- 2:01:30preseason. That was my prediction is the
- 2:01:32Jets are going to make the playoffs. and
- 2:01:34Steve laughed at me and I I I I just I
- 2:01:37can see it. I can see it.
- 2:01:38>> I can I can say I can see it there as
- 2:01:40well, mate. I really could.
- 2:01:42>> Um and we will close the show on the
- 2:01:45final whistle. So, game of the week.
- 2:01:47What do you reckon this week is going to
- 2:01:49be the game of the week?
- 2:01:50>> I think it's that Sunday night game that
- 2:01:52that Broncos versus the Rams. I think
- 2:01:54that is going to be a cracking game. Um
- 2:01:57a game which could go either way. Um, so
- 2:02:00that's that's definitely the game that
- 2:02:01I'm looking forward to watching on
- 2:02:03Sunday night.
- 2:02:04>> I I would say the Packers versus the
- 2:02:08Falcons, but I'm actually dreading
- 2:02:10watching this at this point. [laughter]
- 2:02:12Um, I honestly think the Cowboys versus
- 2:02:14the Ravens. I think it's going to be a
- 2:02:16shootout and I think it's going to be a
- 2:02:17very entertaining watch if you are not a
- 2:02:20Cowboys or a Ravens fan.
- 2:02:22>> Um, so that's that's that's my game of
- 2:02:24the week this week. Um, Steve, uh,
- 2:02:26Steve, Lee, sorry, I'm used to saying
- 2:02:28Ste at this point.
- 2:02:29>> Steve,
- 2:02:30>> Steve, where are you? Um, Super Bowl
- 2:02:32matchup right now. Go.
- 2:02:34>> Uh, it's going to be the Rams versus
- 2:02:39Bill.
- 2:02:41>> Okay. Interesting. I am I'm I'm going to
- 2:02:44go Packers Jets because
- 2:02:46I'm just I'm I'm I'm committing to the
- 2:02:49bit and I think the Packers are going to
- 2:02:51win it and I think the Jets are going to
- 2:02:53do really well. Um anyway, we've just
- 2:02:55about made it. We've kept within the two
- 2:02:57hours just about. Thank you massively to
- 2:03:00Lee for filling in for Steve this week.
- 2:03:02Um you will see Lee on on lots of
- 2:03:04different things on TDUK. Um we've had a
- 2:03:09crazy season so far. I think it's going
- 2:03:12to continue to be crazy. Um but one
- 2:03:15thing is not crazy. We'll be back here
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