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Pete and Tony React to Loss Against 49ers | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, November thirteenth.
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  Speaker 2: This is Check Wars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 3: And welcome in is Jaguars Happy Hour, the first hour
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  Speaker 3: presented by Jet Home Loans. The day after a Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: lost to the forty nine Ers and a busy two
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  Speaker 3: hours ahead from the Hyundai Studios today thirty four to
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  Speaker 3: three in the final forty nine Ers wi a win,
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars giveaways not one, not two, not three, four of
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  Speaker 3: them in the game, and a lack of offensive execution
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  Speaker 3: for the Jags. The forty nine Ers had theirs though,
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  Speaker 3: and the ANC South race is tightening up by the week. Well,
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  Speaker 3: keep it real as we always do, and fanatics span questions.
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  Speaker 3: We're on ten to excel Jaguars That Contact Wars YouTube,
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  Speaker 3: j P. Shadwick, Tony BOSSELLI. We're on the couches at
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  Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center. All we need is a therapist
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  Speaker 3: after a game like yesterday, and Tete Prisco might be
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  Speaker 3: that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't really want to hear from Pete.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: What do you want to hear from me?
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  Speaker 3: Tony?
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  Speaker 4: You texted me during the game. Are you really were
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  Speaker 4: both got it? We were both kind of like looking around,
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  Speaker 4: going what the hell did we just watch?
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  Speaker 2: What happened?
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  Speaker 5: But you know what I did this morning, Pete, I
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  Speaker 5: woke up, I was thinking about you know, I went
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  Speaker 5: in and uh, getting ready for my day and I
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  Speaker 5: saw I said, what am I gonna wear?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, you know what I'm wearing the colors.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you do? Have to get your rear
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  Speaker 2: end kicked. You don't go high, you don't go make excuses,
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  Speaker 2: You put your.
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  Speaker 5: Colors on, you go back to work, and you show
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  Speaker 5: up and say that's not me and you gotta go.
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  Speaker 4: See what I got. I got my forty nine ers color.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a different between you and I. You're a
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  Speaker 2: front runner. I'm loyal.
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  Speaker 5: But that was I mean. But at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the day, I mean JP, Yes, Pete and I were
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  Speaker 5: texting during the game. Is we often do. We usually
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  Speaker 5: text each other if it's going really really good or
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  Speaker 5: really really bad, and most of what it's going really bad.
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  Speaker 5: And they got their butts kicked. I mean, there's no
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  Speaker 5: two ways about it. And when I was thinking about
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  Speaker 5: the game going into it, like pre kickoff, two things
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  Speaker 5: stood out. And actually was sitting on the sidelines talking
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  Speaker 5: to John Lynch before the game and I and he's like,
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  Speaker 5: you know he.
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  Speaker 4: Name drop alert, name drop alert, name drop alert jacket.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a name dropping. He's a friend, Pete Is
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 5: He was like, Hey, I'm not sure how it's going
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  Speaker 5: to go for us today. I think we'll be better.
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  Speaker 5: We're getting healthy, you know. He was, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: had a ton of respect for what he had seen
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  Speaker 5: on film. And I said, listen, it's gonna come down
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  Speaker 5: to two things.
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  Speaker 2: I said.
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  Speaker 5: Mainly, it's going to come down to turnovers. Whoever wins
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  Speaker 5: the turnover margin I think wins the game. And then secondly,
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  Speaker 5: all week and I said it multiple times, was the
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  Speaker 5: forty nine ers are, in my opinion, the most physical
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  Speaker 5: team in the NFL because they've built their team and
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  Speaker 5: their head coach is a has designed their offense to
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  Speaker 5: go through the run and not this kind of horizontal
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  Speaker 5: position blocking run game that most of the NFL is
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  Speaker 5: kind of employed now.
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  Speaker 2: Were deployed.
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  Speaker 5: They are downhill, hitching the mouth, you know, single cut alls,
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  Speaker 5: get outside, go downhill, downhill between the tackles with big
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  Speaker 5: physical guys up front, big physical tight end, who's the best.
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  Speaker 2: Run blocking tight end in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: And then on defense they've invested and they continue to
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  Speaker 5: invest this year through trades on their front seven. If
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  Speaker 5: their weakness is it's a corner or the back half.
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  Speaker 5: Now they have a really good safety.
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  Speaker 4: And it wasn't. It wasn't on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: No, but you know what I'm saying. I mean they
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  Speaker 2: have invested in big people.
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  Speaker 5: John Lynch believes, and I've talked to him about it,
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  Speaker 5: and Kyle Shannon, you build inside out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm look, I'm going to full agreement. We've talked about
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  Speaker 4: that many a time. I'm with you and so and
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  Speaker 4: I always say, if you block them, you beat them.
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  Speaker 4: Is going to your reference on the cornerbacks. But the
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  Speaker 4: problem is blocking.
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  Speaker 5: Them well and and so and I said this last
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  Speaker 5: week on there, what's your message to.
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  Speaker 2: The offensive line?
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  Speaker 5: You know, blocking Bosa and Chase and you know whatever
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  Speaker 5: name you want to put up there, Eric Armstead and
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  Speaker 5: Randy Gregory Graves and I mean, they got them all.
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  Speaker 5: And you have to meet physicality with physicality. If you
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  Speaker 5: don't show up and punch them in the mouth and
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  Speaker 5: make it a fistfight and just you're gonna get bloodied
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  Speaker 5: in the game like that, but blooding them back, you
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  Speaker 5: were going to get it beat and we didn't do either.
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  Speaker 5: We lost the turnover margin in a big way, sure,
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  Speaker 5: and they physically took it to us.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: And now I don't think that's because they're tougher than us.
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  Speaker 5: They were a desperate team on a coming out of
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  Speaker 5: a buy, on a three game losing streak, and they
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  Speaker 5: said we are winning this game their mentality, and then
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  Speaker 5: from the jump they were all over us.
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  Speaker 4: And then you after the first series that game was done.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 5: Then you add to this fact and Doug Peterson talked
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  Speaker 5: about in this press conference today, the amount of pre
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  Speaker 5: snat penalties and missed assignments and not doing your job
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  Speaker 5: and not blocking the right person, not running the right route,
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  Speaker 5: not communicating signals, not going through reads, all the different things.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't tackle. This has been a tackling team. They didn't
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  Speaker 4: tackle well.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't tackle well. You add all that up and guess
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  Speaker 5: what happens. You're gonna get blown out in front of
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  Speaker 5: your home fans. And that's what happened, they got blown out,
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  Speaker 5: they got dominated, and you know what.
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  Speaker 2: The good news is, it's all everything's correctable. There, M
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  Speaker 2: you don't think so, p What.
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  Speaker 3: Are you saying that for, Pete?
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  Speaker 4: I'm worried. I'm worried about the offensive offense in a
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  Speaker 4: big way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried, so Pete, Pete more specific because.
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  Speaker 4: I okayed about the passing game.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you and I might agree on some
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  Speaker 5: of the concerns, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear you first.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, after watching the tape this morning, the receivers didn't
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  Speaker 4: win at all, almost never. Never Pete stopped there?
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  Speaker 5: Did did it almost feel like because I watched it too,
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  Speaker 5: it almost felt like at times we were running to
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  Speaker 5: where the defenders were and just stopping.
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  Speaker 4: And and when they were locked up in the man coverage,
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  Speaker 4: they physically beat them up. They got their hands on them.
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  Speaker 4: They got called a couple times, but I think that
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  Speaker 4: was the game plan. I sent you guys that pictured
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  Speaker 4: that screenshot of the second play of the game, and
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  Speaker 4: Toty you had earlier. Who scared? Were they scared of anybody?
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  Speaker 4: They didn't. They had nine guys at the line of
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  Speaker 4: scrimmage and Manda Man on the outside. They weren't scared
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  Speaker 4: of anybody peat.
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  Speaker 5: Several times in that game, and and this will go
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  Speaker 5: to the passing game that you talked about. If you
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  Speaker 5: froze the the formation right before the snap, a couple
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  Speaker 5: of times, they had eleven guys within eleven yards of
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  Speaker 5: the aligne of scrimmage, like there was nobody deep.
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  Speaker 4: Well, don't you remember the comment from last week? It
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  Speaker 4: came after we were on the air last Monday, but
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  Speaker 4: Bosa made some comment and I don't know if you
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  Speaker 4: guys saw it where Shanahan told them in a team
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  Speaker 4: meeting about make him play quarterback. Do you remember that? Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 4: Well that's exactly the way they played defense.
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  Speaker 5: Well what they did, Pete, because because and you and
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  Speaker 5: I have talked about this several times in the show,
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  Speaker 5: because we were were pretty horizontal offense, a lot of bubble.
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  Speaker 6: Screens mainly the almost strictly horizontal, and a lot of
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  Speaker 6: you know, underneath crossers, you know, stick routes, you know
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  Speaker 6: ten yard come back.
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  Speaker 5: I mean everything's like a lot of our offense is
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  Speaker 5: within ten yards of the line of scrimmage in the
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  Speaker 5: passing game, and then you get some run after catch
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  Speaker 5: and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: We don't.
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  Speaker 5: We have not pushed the ball down the field at
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  Speaker 5: least that you know from my perspective and what it
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  Speaker 5: feels like watching us play this year. On offense, you
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  Speaker 5: watch that forty nine or defense, they did exactly what
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  Speaker 5: Shanahan and Bosa said they.
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  Speaker 2: Were going to do.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna take away the first read and we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: jump everything underneath. Like their linebackers and safeties were jumping
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  Speaker 5: everything everything the I mean etn in the flat. They
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  Speaker 5: were jumping ingram over that little middle crossing. They were
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  Speaker 5: jumping every stick route. They didn't move their feet, No,
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  Speaker 5: they didn't open their hips at all. They were just
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  Speaker 5: coming downhill. And it was almost like they're saying, listen,
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  Speaker 5: if you're gonna beat us, you're gonna have to go
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  Speaker 5: down the field to beat us.
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  Speaker 4: Now, having said all that and watching the tape, the
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  Speaker 4: guys didn't win. The design wasn't great again, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: starting to get worried about the quarterback as a result.
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  Speaker 4: And you guys know how I felt about him coming
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  Speaker 4: into the season. He was my MVP pick. I thought
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  Speaker 4: he was gonna light up the world. And what I'm
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  Speaker 4: seeing is a guy who A is sped up. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know why, but he's sped up. B. He's locking
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  Speaker 4: on to his first read way too long and not
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  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna go to a second play of the game,
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  Speaker 4: or was it the third play of the game? Third
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  Speaker 4: play the game? He opens to the right. Nothing's there,
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  Speaker 4: it's covered, but he doesn't quickly come back to the
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  Speaker 4: middle where he had Strange on a crosser that would
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  Speaker 4: have been a first down and a twenty yard and
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  Speaker 4: fifteen yard game. Instead, he starts moving and gets sacked
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. I don't know if they counted that. As
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  Speaker 4: there see Strange standing right in front of him. He's
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  Speaker 4: got to throw that, and he doesn't throw it. You
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  Speaker 4: don't understand right there there you go throw it. I
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  Speaker 4: don't understand that. And so there's too many of those
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  Speaker 4: over the course of the last month where he's getting
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  Speaker 4: not getting off that first read or second read quick
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  Speaker 4: enough and making a throw. Now, having said all that,
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  Speaker 4: his receivers aren't winning down the field. But and that's
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  Speaker 4: even in the instances and we've said that all along
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  Speaker 4: where he's taken the quick throw and passed on the
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  Speaker 4: deep throw when they did have it. I think he's
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  Speaker 4: sped up, but I think the fundamentals are going away
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  Speaker 4: from him because the offensive line pressure early in the
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  Speaker 4: season and even Sunday has taken him out of getting
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  Speaker 4: off his reads quick enough and and I think as
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  Speaker 4: a result, there's concern about that passing game, and there's
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  Speaker 4: concern about the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Pete to your point real quick, and because JP's
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  Speaker 5: got to get us out of here. No, I was
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  Speaker 5: gonna get to Trevor, but that's yeah, I was gonna
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  Speaker 5: say about Trevor. So the planes we just saw Strange.
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  Speaker 5: If he hits Strange in stride, Strange easily runs for
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  Speaker 5: a nice pickup because he has separation there. Another time,
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  Speaker 5: you know they had it was single high safety. They
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  Speaker 5: had two seam routes, Ingram on one side, Strange on
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  Speaker 5: the other side. He's looking to Ingram side. Safety runs
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  Speaker 5: over and Strange and we you know, you and I
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  Speaker 5: and every person watching the NFL sees quarterbacks move that
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  Speaker 5: safety go to the backside.
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  Speaker 2: Big play down the.
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  Speaker 5: Seat he is not, for whatever reason, is not getting off.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I can go to the the on the
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  Speaker 5: first field goal they kicked, and I'm not an offense coordinator,
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  Speaker 5: So maybe press and Doug or tell him Trever to
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  Speaker 5: do this. I have no idea, but to me it
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  Speaker 5: looked like pre snap. He reads man right read, and
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  Speaker 5: he's going to go to Kirk who has man press
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  Speaker 5: man from the slot on that go route. It was
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  Speaker 5: third and four, right before they kicked the field goal.
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  Speaker 5: Early you can see that the corner's over the top
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  Speaker 5: and he decides he's going there no matter what, instead
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  Speaker 5: of getting off that going to the backside, and you
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  Speaker 5: have Ridley on a six yard endcut that has separation.
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  Speaker 2: You move the chains.
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  Speaker 5: Now, maybe that's not as real, but I'm just saying
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  Speaker 5: you can see these things as you watched it all
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  Speaker 5: twenty two and then live, and it was confirmed watching
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  Speaker 5: the tape today. He is he is definitely sped up
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  Speaker 5: in his mind, and his footwork was just all over
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  Speaker 5: the place.
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  Speaker 2: He's like running around, throwing, leaping like it's like well.
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  Speaker 4: Like trying to shove in Tony the one he tried
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  Speaker 4: to hit strange in the middle of the field when
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  Speaker 4: he's open in the middle of the field and he
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  Speaker 4: kind of rushed steps up and kind of throws all
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  Speaker 4: off balance and stuff. That's a big play. You got
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  Speaker 4: to hit that you got to hit him in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of the field. You remember the play where he
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  Speaker 4: kind of like was leaning forwards rolling it to him
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  Speaker 4: and he and then the one where he flicked the
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  Speaker 4: ball to Etn on a little baby cross er. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what the heck that was. The ones where
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  Speaker 4: they booted him out and they usually get those big
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  Speaker 4: plays coming over the top. On those, they were well
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  Speaker 4: covered the whole game, and he had the underneath throw.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I got'ta go back to the first play
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  Speaker 5: of the game. They run a naked bootleg to the right.
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  Speaker 5: They bring green Law or Warner, I can't remember which one.
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  Speaker 5: It was off the edge, so he has pretty quick pressure,
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  Speaker 5: but as soon as he turns his head he has
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  Speaker 5: separation and really's on a little seven yard comeback right.
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  Speaker 5: If he throws it on time, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 5: positive play in first down.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's the one play and we talked about
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  Speaker 4: mistakes that it looked like they had some kind of
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  Speaker 4: RPO and he pulled the ball up to try and
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  Speaker 4: throw it and there's nobody there.
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  Speaker 5: Well, remember, yeah, that was I think that was that
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  Speaker 5: was one of them. As they checked the screen. Everyone
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  Speaker 5: got it except for the one guy who's supposed to
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  Speaker 5: get the screen and he was it Ingram No, I
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  Speaker 5: can't watching the tape, I would bet it figure out
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  Speaker 5: who it was. I would bet it was Agnew, But
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  Speaker 5: it was Agnew or Kirk, one of the two. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure which one. And but I want to say
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  Speaker 5: this before we go to break with everything we just
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  Speaker 5: said about Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: The reason we are focusing on him, he's.
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  Speaker 5: The quarterback and it starts with the quarterback. But to
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  Speaker 5: I want to make sure everyone listening don't, at least
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  Speaker 5: from my perspective, this was not just on Trevor.
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean it.
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  Speaker 5: Was across the boards. You know, a bunch of different
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  Speaker 5: you know, they need to be better.
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  Speaker 4: Not winning down the field ever.
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  Speaker 5: Not trying to run the ball, even getting away from
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  Speaker 5: the run early. You know, everyone's killing the offense line
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  Speaker 5: of the protection. Could it be better. Absolutely, But Pete,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you watched two weeks ago when
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  Speaker 5: they put when you played, they played, the Bengals played them.
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  Speaker 5: Joe Burrow got hit a bunch of times, but Joe
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  Speaker 5: Burrow went through his progression, got rid of it and
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  Speaker 5: threw tight windows and they made big plays.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think. I thought watching the game on
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  Speaker 4: TV the protection was awful, and in watching the tape
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  Speaker 4: back it wasn't great, But it wasn't awful.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen I've been a part of a lot worse
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  Speaker 5: as an Armand's alignment, and I've seen a lot worse.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: when I watched it back.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll hear from Trevor Lawrence coming up in just
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, then get his thoughts on what happened
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  Speaker 3: after the game from yesterday at Jaguars loss to the
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  Speaker 7: You know my specifically assure you can't do that, gotta
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  Speaker 7: hold on the ball, and you know, just every intention
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  Speaker 7: to try to get in the end zone. But it's
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  Speaker 7: just those things that are kind out are the reason
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  Speaker 7: why we're coming up short and so those can happen.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we can't expect to be a great football
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  Speaker 7: team when we're.
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  Speaker 2: Turning around the ball, especially in the red zone.
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  Speaker 7: So we have to do a better job of just
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  Speaker 7: you know, having emphasis and just better ball security from
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  Speaker 7: all all aspects. So we're we're looking to get you know,
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  Speaker 7: better in that area, and you know, have to be
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  Speaker 7: able to do it we're gonna win games.
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  Speaker 3: It's Christian Kirk, Jaguars wide receiver. He went over one
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  Speaker 3: hundred yards yesterday, but lost a key fumble down inside
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  Speaker 3: the ten yard line, overthrew a pass to an open
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  Speaker 3: receiver and then had a punt he let one go
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  Speaker 3: that was down at the one yard line. So a
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: tough day overall. This Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shaddick, Tony
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Boselli at the Miller Electric Center Pete Prisco down in
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: South Florida. A lot of the opening conversation tonight about
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the offense and the quarterback play. Let's hear from the
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: quarterback himself, Trevor Lawrence. After the game, They've got to
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: go take a look at it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: You got to feel the pain and embarrassment of to day,
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: and that's what it is it's just it's terrible, you know.
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: I it's one of the worst games I've probably played
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: in my career, So you know, I feel that and
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: I take responsibility for that. And yeah, it's just we
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: couldn't do anything right today. So but you gotta flush
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: it too. I mean, that's the thing is, uh sucks
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: what the reality is at the thirty one point loss.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: And that's crazy to even say, but thirty one point
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: loss the same as a three point loss.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: And we lost.
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: Today and we got to move on. We're the same
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: team we were five hours ago when we came in
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: here today and we didn't play like it today. We
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: played terrible, just across the board, including myself. So that's
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: where we're at. That's the reality of it. Yeah, you're
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: gonna we're gonna wallow in it tonight and we're gonna
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: watch the tape tomorrow and kind of relive it, which
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: is which is gonna suck, and then we're gonna move on.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: We're gonna get ready for Tennessee. I mean, that's that's
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: the biggest game of year, is our next one.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: So that's the quarterback of course, Trevor Lawrence. We'll get
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: to the defense part of this equation in about fifteen
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: minutes or so. But let's continue with the offensive discussion
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: here in the giveaways. I mean, that was a focus
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: coming out of the bye week. We're leading the league
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: in fumbles lost going into the buy with nine of them. Well,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: they had two or more interceptions, two more fumbles lost,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and at least we're still leading. Yeah, we're number one, Tony.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: That's a positive way to look at it, I suppose.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: But I mean in the red.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Zone twice, can't do Yeah, I mean, let me say this, Yeah,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: I don't think we win that game. Now if now,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: if it's a zero zero turnover type of game, do
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I think it's a one possession game at the end?
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: I do, Like, if we make a couple of plays,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: you go, I mean, here's let's put the let me
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: put my the kind of look at the other side
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: of the coin. You go down and if Christian doesn't fumble,
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: you go down to score. It's twenty to ten.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: It's a ten point game.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: There's no telling what's going to happen in that fourth quarter.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're if the forty nine ers will go
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: on the field, is twenty seven to three too? I
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: mean well, that's another lesson to be learned. How about
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: tapping the guy down?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but that's down.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: But Pete, I agree with that, But I'm saying, if
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: he doesn't fumble there, right and you.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Go scores, I get it. But I.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Get that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: I get that, But Pete, my point is this, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: agree with you. They were the better team because they
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: physically won the matchup and we did not execute very well.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: My only point in saying this, if you take the turnovers,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: this is how important turnovers turnovers are. You take the
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: turnovers and you make it a zero zero turnover game.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: It's twenty to ten going into the fourth quarter. And
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: we've seen plenty of games in this league where one
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: team dominates for three quarters and it's closer than it
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: should be, and all of a sudden, something crazy happens
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, and you know, who knows what happens.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm not making any excuses for them. They
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: were not the better team on the field. Sunday, the
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: forty nine ers came in whooped our butts. There's no
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: two ways about that. But you have to start by
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: looking at what you can control and what can you get,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Like you're not changing out a bunch of players in
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: anything else. And I don't think that's what anyone's saying.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Trade deadline's over. You're not going to get anyone else.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And so what can you do.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: It's like, okay, clean up the turnovers one, clean up
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: the mess assignments two. Just do those two things and
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: you give yourself a chance of winning.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: And start driving the damn ball down the field.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: But Pepe, those are all those are all philosophical, strategic,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: schematic things that yes, you and I are an agreement.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: My point is is you can't.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I think it was Bill Belichick or Parcels, but every
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: coach is said this. You can't worry about beating the
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: team on the other side of the field until you
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: make sure you.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Don't beat yourself.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Too many games in the NFL.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Are lost because of the mistakes that you make as
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: an individual or as a team, like don't turn it over,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: get rid of the pre snap penalties, know your assignment,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: and do it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, just do that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: You're going to win because a lot of teams beat themselves,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: and we like not only did the forty nine ers
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: beat us on Sunday, we beat ourselves like we weren't
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: winning that game because of how we perform.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Now some of that was induced.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Or is brought on by.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Outside that's right, yes, yes, and physically they wanted the
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage and all those things, so they go together.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: I'm not dismissing what you're saying at all, people, but
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I just watched that game and that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: They looked out of sorts from the first play.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Tony, where are you? Where's your confidence level in the
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: offensive line right now after yesterday as a whole, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: could you perceive maybe some changes to line up or
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: things or no.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: No, it's a fair question.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: I got the same question from Dan and Jeff this
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: warn like, okay, what changes are you making?
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Well? Walker Little didn't play very well.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: He didn't play terrible. He played like guys, come on,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: give me time out, time out. Pet No, no, I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: going to take exception an issue with what you just
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: said that he did not play well? Now did he?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Is there room for improvement? You know, only snaps.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: He's played at left guard in his entire life in
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: a game about ten. Going into that game, he was
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: going against one of the best three techniques in football.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: And by the way, a bunch of times one on one,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: did a great job, was more physical than anyone else we've.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Seen of moving people in the run game. And yes
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: he had some leakage in pass at times, but other
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: times he was one on one with hard Graves all
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: by himself and did a great job. So I'm not
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: saying he can't doesn't need to get better.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: But if you think it's a good idea after one
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: full game of letting, in my opinion, one of your
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: better offensive linemen, go out there and play a new
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: position and like, oh, we're just gonna start playing musical
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: chairs and flipping guys in and out. Good luck, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: let me know how that works out, because now you've
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: sent the message that first sight, bad moment, bad thing,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: or whatever, we're just gonna start rolling new guys in there. So, no,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I think the worst thing you can do in a
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: situation like this after coming off a five game winning streak,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: by the way, you got.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Beat, You got embarrassed. It was terrible. All the things.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: No one played well overall. But if you start panicking.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: And just making changes because you're like, that's the worst
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: thing you can do, in my opinion, well you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Will admit this. Though Walker Little was playing better at
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: left tackle than he's played it left guard just two games.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know that, pet No, because in the Buffalo game,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: the ten games he had, he was great. Yeah, ten plays,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: the ten plays the end, Buffalo is great. So I
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: have like like a body of work of ten plays
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: against Buffalo, or he looked great.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Okay and in one game again.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Okay on Sunday. Then who didn't play well in your mind?
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't think any of them played well overall.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Like I think they took turns. I think there was
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: leakage by both tackles at times. At other times I
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: thought they did a great job against two really good
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: pass rushers. I don't think we did a good job
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: of getting up on to the next level.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: No, those guys were coming fast.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, guess what, watch the tape.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: There's a little saying that we like make the late
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: great Mike Maser, who I love the dead. My offensive
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: line coach used to say it all the time. And
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: the same thing my offensive line coach said sce Mike
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Berry and John Masko before him. And I guarantee you
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: that Phil Rauscher has said this. Don't go to where
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: they are.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Go to where they're going to be right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: And guess what, when they're fast, you better take a
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: good angle.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: And because they're not gonna be.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: They were beating him to the spot as single time.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: And guess what, that's all fixable. Some of the angles,
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: some of your release points, how you can get there? Like, hey,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: how about giving ourselves a chance? So like I can
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: go down the list of individuals who could have done
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: a better job at different times. There's times when we're
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: not even going, like we're leaving the front side back
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: or unaccounted for.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Right, what do you run.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Play where Kirk tried to block the safety and he
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: made this tackle on the two yard remember or its
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: corner the nickel corner, and he didn't block them. So
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: it's not just it's not just we get it's not
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: just the offensive line.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: No, But so I think, and this is where and
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Doug said this in his press conference, guys here like
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: pre snat penalties, missed assignments, lack of execution, turnovers, like
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: like you want to know why we lost?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Right here? This is all stuff we can control.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Well, they were in the in the scoring area. Ran
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: just ran for or did they just run yet? Etn
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: just ran for a first down right to start getting
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: that they were on the move, and then trick play.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Tricky play came in. Woo, here we go, let's run
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: the trick play and guess it was there and they
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: missed it. He has it, he's got to hit the throw.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: But it then what happens pre snap penalty?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: That's a party, that's a penalty like that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: But but here we go. So it was open, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: you're asking a wide receiver to make a throw. Not
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: easy to do. Should he should have been flagged? He
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: should have been flagged.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: You practiced this.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: Obviously, they didn't call it because he never connected in practice.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you he hit it every time in practice.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And that's what he said today. He's actually talked today.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's like Christian wouldn't make it. I guarantee
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't make an excuse me. He t I gotta
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: make this throw. I know how to throw the ball.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: But that this, this this happened. Then the first the
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: next play they got a penalty.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: From yeah, they did.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: They went back and then then.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I think they had a sack fumball. I'm not mistaken.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it just added up backwards from that point.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Let's come back in a moment and guess what, we
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: haven't even touched the defensive performance yet against San Francisco's offense.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Well, a great tackling team, and that's what we've been.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Good on.
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• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't execute. They came out.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: Uh was able to establish the run, do the boots,
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: all the misdirection and stuff for versus the nineteen and
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: all that. Kind of knew that's what they're gonna do.
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: But I think the first couple of drives we really
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: got established ourselves. So we can play a lot slower
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: and or you know, mentally a lot slower. When your
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: second guests against that team, you know it's gonna be
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: a long day.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: So uh, you know, go.
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: Back to the drawing board really correct what we need
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: to correct. But I'm ready to get back to work.
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: We know the teble team that we're able to be in.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Foyer Lukan the Jaguars linebacker. Welcome back as Jaguars Happy
• 29:05
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• 29:08
  Speaker 3: of the Miller Electric Center. JP Shadwick, Tony Bisselli on
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the couch today. Nice set up in here at the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: TV studio and Pete Prisco is down in South Florida
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: recapping a loss thirty four to three. We've talked offense
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: most of the show, all the show. In fact, well,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the defense gave up thirty four yesterday, and you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: the first two drives, That's what Foy was talking about there,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: bang four plays, touchdown, next drive, field goal. It's ten
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: to nothing, right out of nowhere. And then obviously at
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: the start of the second half, second play of the
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: third quarter, sixty six yard touchdown to Kittle. It's a
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: three score game at that point and everything's just different.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: So the defense had their momentary McCaffrey. Pete is one
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: of the toughest matchups in the NFL. He's all over
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the place yesterday.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like they got him on that little crosser against
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Jenkins for a big play out of the slot. He
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: can do so many things. I mean, and he didn't
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: even have a monster day either. I mean, it was
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: a good day, it wasn't a monster day. You know.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: You talk about the first drive, the Kiddle play, Trayvon
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Walker is in cement. I mean, come on, what was
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: You're dropping him out in the coupverage and he's he
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: doesn't get somebody else probably should have been over there,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: but he didn't look like he was comfortable doing that
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: and he's wide open. That's a big play. And then
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: the touchdown. Okay, I'm gonna say some about it. The
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: touchdown was lucky. Let's be real.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: That should have been intercepted and hung up.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a terrible decision by Perty. He got
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: away with that. But but for the most part, the defense,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: you know what, like he mentioned, you know what you're
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: gonna get from the forty nine ers, You're gonna get
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: everything going back the other way because there's such a
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: run and Tony mentioned it when we started the show.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: They built everything off that run game. And that's what
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: they do. They get you going one way and get
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: you coming back the other way. And it's a tough offense.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: To defend their offensive line is not great. It played
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: better on Sunday, well.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: It played better because they got their best player back, Trent.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: But also what Feliciana was playing in there too and
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: was a little physical, more physical than what they had
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: been in there as well. So I thought they were
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: better and he wasn't. I mean, he wasn't his usual self.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: There was one play Tony, did you see it on
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: tape where I think it was Roy Roberts and Harris
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: put him on his back. Did you see that one?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Trent Williams knocked him on his back?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean no, but he's coming back
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: off an ankle and he's rusty.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Well, and he's thirty five years old, Pete. He's not
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: a young he's not a young man anymore. But he
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: still is physical and he brings a presence to them.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: And I thought Josh had some nice rushes against him
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: a few times and got some pressure.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: But overall.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: It was you know, I actually thought, if you take
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: a step back, in that first half, it was thirteen.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: They gave him thirteen points and the first drive was
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: bam bam ban mam, lucky play touchdown. It wasn't like
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: they were getting gashed in the first half.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: They just opening drive. You don't want to make it
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: that easy. That's one.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: And then the really killer was at the end of
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: the half, is like, get a stop and get the
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: offense the ball back and let the offense have a
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: two minute drive. Don't give up points there. But it's
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: still only thirteen. I didn't think they played terrible.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: But then you start the second half and it's like
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: two plays, it's like, oh my gosh, that was that
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the kid the Kiddle play on the Kiddle play and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: it was interesting.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Did the push off?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, they were hand fighting. It wasn't nothing bad beat.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't think it was either. I didn't think it
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: was bad back guys were saying. My guys were saying
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: he pushed off. I didn't think.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: No, I disagree with that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: That's a tough ass for Devin Layd.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: What's a tough asking.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: What I didn't understand is Cisco's playing center field and
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: for whatever reason, he jumps then the inn route, and
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, maybe that's what he's supposed to do.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not a secondary expert. Coverage.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I doubt you would want Devin Lloyd cover and
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Kittle down the field in the one on one situation with.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: No over the top help, but at least like make
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: a tackle. So so, you know, but the bigger concern
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: I had with the defense is what they've hung their
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: hat on is being great against the run, being Bully's
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: physical and tackling well. I mean the run the yards
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: after the first contact and in.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Just the.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: It wasn't like they put up huge numbers we talked
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: about on the ground, but huge numbers against the defense
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: this year that's been really good and it's tackled really well,
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: and we just did not tackle well.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: No, and and guys like Okay, Tyson Campbell didn't have
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: a great day, but he clearly isn't all the way
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: back and got hurt again amstring. So yeah, so maybe
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: he rushed to get back, but he didn't play well.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, when you watch the tape, you mentioned Josh
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Allen had a couple of rushes, made a couple plays.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Tray Vaughn had a couple nice rushes.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Lua con Yeah, he did actually have a couple of
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: nice rushes. I thought that was you know, from a
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: rush standpoint, it might have been one of his better
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: games rushed than the passer. Uhlua Khan had a couple
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: of good plays, you know, flashed at times. I thought
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Campbell was wasn't himself. Cisco didn't look like himself either.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Darius Williams played well again and I think he's been
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: solid all season. Uh you mentioned it, Tony like Hamilton
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: since he's been back has not been the same player.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: No getting blocked and uh you know who made a
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: o Lacey made a play on a rush.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean so like, I don't think the
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: defense played well but not dominated. No, but they weren't.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I wasn't I.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Who were the biggest offenders by by grouping, it would
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: be offense one, two and three, and then defense and
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: then special teams.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You're less to certain long term about the defense. The
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: offense is the big question.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Which is amazing because if you had said that before
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: the season, you would have been called a crazy man.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I mean, because I'm with Pete. I mean,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: they got all their weapons back, they had a week off.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: They've been getting killed in the press about not being
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: very good on offense. You know, Kyle Shanahan, you know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: was hell bent on getting this thing back on track.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: And they got the run going. They got purty move
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: in the pocket. Party was very good for the most
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: part of diagnosing hanging in there. He took some shots,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: but he hung in there and delivered the ball accurately
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: down the field and so but so you know, it's tough,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: but take away the four turnovers in short fields at
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: times they don't score thirty four.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: No, no, dude, you know when you when you think
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: about it though, and we touched on this last week.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Now we can ask this question. Jacksonville has nobody that's
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: a top five player at their position.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Nobody, I would say, one who coming into this.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, okay, yeah, I mean you can make
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: a case for that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I'll give you that, Josh Allen, you wouldn't put in there.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: No, not top five. How many top five players as
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: a position do the forty nine ers have?
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: So I'll go, let's go through it quickly. McCaffrey. Yes,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Trent Williams number.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: One, he's number one. Trent Williams is number one. Those
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: are two number ones at their position, one or two.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Trent, he's one in my book, But yeah, one or two, okay.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Fred Warner best middle linebacker.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Number one.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Nick Bosa's top five pass rusher, correct. Hard Graves is
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the top five three technique.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Is Kittle Kittle top five? You always forget Kittle? Top
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: five tight end, no doubt about it. He's the best.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: He's number one as far as a two way tight end,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: balker and receiver.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, So there's there's six and could you say you
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: want to expand it to how about who fun is he? No,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: he's not. If you could span it to ten, you
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: could probably throw green Law in there. Okay, right, if
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: you expand it to ten, could you could throw You're
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: gonna laugh at it. But he's played this way Ayuk
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: has played better than Samuel.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Demo's like, I don't know what position he is.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: He's a matchup issue because he can line up anywhere.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: He's not a he's not a top one full back. Yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: he's not a.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Top ten he's not a top ten receiver, and he's
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: not a top ten running back.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: But he's a top ten athlete.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Like he's the number one full They got the number
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: one full back.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: You go to Jacksonville. The only one you can really
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: make an argument for is etn.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Could you see it, hey, Pete, could you argue that
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Eric Armstead is a top ten three technique, yes, yes,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he might be top five as a pass rusher.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, you could argue that. And so I mean the corners.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Know, and I think that's safety. Who fun is better
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: than you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: He's a little bit of a liability in the past
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: coverage at times, but I could see where you could
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: see it makes big plays, splash plays, and yeah, I
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: could see where you can say that. But again, so
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: what is it now? It's six for sure, top five, seven,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: eight or nine, top ten, Yeah, go to Jacksonville you
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: got one, you know, maybe a Lua.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Khan Lukan's top ten for sure.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, top to Josh Allen's top.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Ten, Josh Allen's top ten.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Right, but you see the difference though, star heavy team
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: not And before the season you would have said Trevor
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Lawrence for sure top ten right now?
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Not the way he's playing, No, I mean, I mean
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: if he just takeoff and it's hard for me to
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: do this because they're really they're attached to my head,
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: my Jaguar glasses that I see everything the glasses. Yeah,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: but if you just looked at the statistics, you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I mean Trevor's not a top fifteen quarterback Statistically, I don't.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Think he's not the best quarterback in his own division
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: right now?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: True?
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, now, do is there very many guys I'm
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: trading Trevor Lawrence four?
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: No?
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Because I still am a huge believer in him being
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: the man.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: And I got something that bothers me because we talk
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: about not driving the ball down the field, and you know,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: that's a pet peeve of mine. I even made make
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: the joke about the bubble screen, the forty two thousand
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: bubble screens they still wear horizontal again on Sunday. I
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: don't care what anybody says, but when you watch the
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Chargers play, when you think of Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: you look at him and you go, okay, as skill
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: set should be similar to drive the ball down the field,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: big arms, you know whatever. They don't have deep speed
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: on that team either right now. And yet on Sunday
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: they play the Lions and he's firing shot after shot
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: after shot after shot down the field.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: But Pete, how much of that is because I watched
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: some of that Lions Chargers game.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I got home.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: And I you know, watching Herbert after I just watched
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: us play. I mean, he's a guy who gets through
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: that progression, is hangs in there and will sling it
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: down to his second third read.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I agree, but okay, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: this out there. Last year when they rallied from behind
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: against the Chargers, they had no choice but to play
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: that way. Did he play that way? Hell yeah, he
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: played that way. That's in him. It's time to allow
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: that to go. Enough with the bubble screens forty two
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: thousand times, get the ball down the field, get creative
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: to get guys down the field. If you don't, you're
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: gonna see that what the forty nine ers did to
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: you on Sunday. Everybody's gonna put to force field up
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: at ten yards and say, go ahead, I dare you
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: to complete those short passes against me.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: But Pete, I'm not disagreeing with anything you just said,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: but you got to be on the same page. Run
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: the right run the right routes and not have misassignments
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: and everything else.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you would assume Chenan Allen's probably running the right route.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: That's my point.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Is Calvin Ridley running the right route?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, And he's been.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Invisible and I didn't see a ton of separation to
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: your point by anybody.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Nope, nope.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: We will delve into this a little more in the
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: second hour. We've got plenty of time on that topic tonight.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: We might actually keep it real with that. I like
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: your conversation, Pete.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 41:45
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  Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. We got to take a look at
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: AFC South Power rankings again. It's getting tight in the division.
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  Speaker 3: That's after this, It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet
• 42:13
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• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. The
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: day after thirty four to three San Francisco over Jacksonville,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: JP Shadwick, Tony Vasselli at the Miller Electric Center. Pete
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Frisco is in South Florida. We're on Jaguars YouTube tenon
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: XLAM Jaguars dot Com. Glad you're with US today. Let's
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: take a look at the AFC South. All of a sudden,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: that big lead the Jaguars had is evaporated down to
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: one game in the division race. Jaguars six and three,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Houston now five and four in the five and five.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: By the way, they're right there and not far back
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Tennessee three and six. But this thing, this gap is
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: closed in a hurry. Tennessee or excuse me, Houston playing
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: better football. The Jaguars trying to figure it out after
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: yesterday and division games coming up the next two weeks
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: for the Jaguars, of course, the Titans here next week
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: and then two weeks Thanksgiving weekend at Houston, and then
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: it's a three game run against the AFC North and
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: all those teams are winning. So strap in, Pete, here
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: we go the what we're talking about in the break, Tony,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: you and I you're gonna figure it out in the
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: next month, whether you're going too the playoffs or not.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Though we lost.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Pete.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Can't hear Tony either. There's Pete.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, JP, look at the Texans schedule the
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: next I think we talked me and you talked about
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: it before the show. Look at their schedule the next
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: five weeks. It's amazing. They have the Cardinals at home
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: this week.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Ye they do, and then they got the Jaguars at home.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Then they have the Broncos at home. Then they're at
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the Jets at the Titans.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I mean the two.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: You don't have to.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Sorry, is that better?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, you're up.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: The two tough The two tough games they have there
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: are the Texans are US obviously coming to Houston, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: then going to the Jets. That Jets defense is nothing
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: to play around with now, although they get they got
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: run on night, yeah a little bit, a little bit,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: but still, Pete, they're a good unit.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Really good and if they stop the run, they're.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Really good quarter that's right.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: So but it's you know, compare that to the next
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: five we have, which are Titans not very good, but
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: it's always a close game.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: It's the third consecutive road game for them, by the way,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: this week.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So that's works out.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: But then you got a huge match up in Houston
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: that we don't for whatever reason play good against that franchise.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Then you got the Bengals, who on Monday night football here,
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: who are a very good team. Then you have the
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Browns one of the best defenses. You talk about a
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: defensive front, we's dealt with a tough one. Get ready
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: because here comes Cleveland. They're not quite They don't have
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: the depth the forty nine ers do, but they got
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: some dudes who can play.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And then you have the Ravens who are no joke either.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: I mean those next is I told JP and I've
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: had conversations. I think this team's fate and destiny will
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: be determined in the next five weeks.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. By the way, I don't. I said
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: they'd win thirteen games. I think they're lucky to win eleven.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: Now, so you think out of the next eight they'll
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: be lucky to go five and three.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I think they'll go the best case scenario. They go five,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: they beat the Titans twice, beat the Panthers, beat the Bucks,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: and then they win one of the other ones. So
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: you so you think maybe two maybe two?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually think they're gonna win the next two weeks.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Do you think they win that against the Texans?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Look, I think they should beat the Texans, but history
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: is not kind to them against it, Like you mentioned,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: against that franchise and at that place.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: No, but we played better there than we do it.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we play here against them, so yeah, I'll lock
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: it right now. I'm gonna lock the next two weeks.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: They're gonna win both games.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Wow, oh wow, I'll lock this week. I'm not locking
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: the Texans game.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I gotta the next two are locked.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I want to see how the offense plays this week.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: But it's a it's gonna be.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Tough.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's not easy.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: You're gonna have to beat one of those good You're
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: gonna have to beat the Bengals of the Ravens for sure.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: You have to be win one of those games.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Back in the moment. Second hour of the program is
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: straight ahead. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Home Loans.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: This is what I want our.
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: Team to understand is is you know you're still sitting
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: in first place. Everything's right here in front of you.
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: You control it. You put yourself in a good situation, obviously,
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: and if we.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Can just eliminate.
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: Or even minimize some of these mistakes that we're making
• 47:27
  Speaker 10: and shooting ourselves in the foot, as we say, then
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: it puts you in a better position to get into
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: the fourth quarter and potentially, you know, win games, but
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: it's also different being six and three than three and
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: six or three and seven as well, you know, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: sometimes too you got to play.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: You don't worry about the record.
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: You play as if your back's against the wall every day,
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: you know, and you come out and give it your
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: best shot.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I said coach Doug Peterson earlier today. Welcome in the
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday's presented
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: by mister Chubby's wing J P. Shadwick Tony Basselli here
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida. The Jaguars
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: fell to the forty nine Ers thirty four to three.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: They trailed ten to nothing after two drives and went
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: three and out to answer each time they played from behind.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: All game long.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: The offense turned the ball over four times, including two
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: interceptions and a loss fumble from Trevor Lawrence, and the
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Jags defense had issues slowing down the forty nine ers.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Questions now about how the offense moves forward and finds
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: a way to consistently move the ball. And yes, as
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson just said, the Jaguars are still the AFC
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: South leaders, and as it sits right now. They are
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: still the number three seed in the AFC playoffs if
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: it ended today. Big games coming up though, against Tennessee
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: at Houston, Cincinnati on the dock and a head. And
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: that's the lay of the land on this Monday, after
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: thirty four to three pete. Here we are still in
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: first place, but still a lot to clean up after yesterday.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Isn't it funny how quickly the landscape shifts in the NFL.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, we were saying, at least we looked like
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: the division. We look like I said the division was over,
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: didn't I say that a couple of weeks ago? Done?
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, the Texans are back.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, you go to Cincinnati and go for over
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: five hundred yards at that place against that team. That's impressive.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: And here's the scary thing. They hadn't run the ball
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: all year, the Texans, and they ran the ball on Sunday.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: So yeah, the division's tight and getting tighter, and and
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: now the pressure mounts on Jacksonville to get everything working
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: because if they don't, the Texans are right there with
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: that schedule.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Why what did I say that you're not you're not
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: in agreement with.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Well, it's not that I'm a disagreement with anything you said, Pete,
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: but I've had about enough.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Of the annoying of annoying like c J.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: Stroud and the Texans is like these juggernauts, like let's
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: not forgey that, let's not forget like like two or
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: three weeks ago, they could barely get out of their
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: own way and lost the Carolina Panthers, who are one
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: of the worst teams in the football And so, yes,
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: do I think c J. Stroud is a having a
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: phenomenal rookie year and is a uber talented quarterback. And
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: I have no idea how the Panthers shows you know,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: Bryce Young over him.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's all fair.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: But to act like the Texans just because they have
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: an easy record can't stumble and get beat any of
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: the next five weeks is out.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: You're out of your mind.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: I got I'm.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: Act, I mean you and every other punt Like if
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: I need like my favorite is I heard this weekend
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: that CJ.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Stroud is an MVP. Can't I'm like, come on.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: By the way, the Colts are at five and five too,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Let's not forget that one.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: Like I don't forget any of them, because I also
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: never said the division was over two weeks ago, like
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: some other expert on this show named Pete Prisco. It's
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: a long season, and one thing you are one hundred
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: percent correct on, Pete, it changes week to week. I mean,
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: remember the Bills last the Bengals, excuse me, beat the
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Bills last week on Sunday Night Football, and they had
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: solved all their issues. Yours truly said something, you know
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: basically that after calling that game is like, uh oh,
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: here they come. And they followed up with a stinker
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: at home on defense and just get run through, you know.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: And then you got the Panthers, I mean, excuse me,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: the Ravens who have been going through everybody and you know,
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: everything's perfect and have a huge lead, dominating the Browns
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: quarter and end up somehow losing that game against a
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: Browns team who offensively couldn't get out of their own
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: way this season. Like so, like we anoint certain teams
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: every week, let me tell you the only thing that's
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: consistent in this.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: League right now.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: It's it's called the Kansas City Chiefs, the phil and
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles. And it looks like the forty nine
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: ers have gotten out, you know, gotten healthy, and they're
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: going to be coming up. But really the only thing
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: that's been consistent year week in week out this year
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: are those two teams, the Chiefs.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: That they play they play next Monday, the Chiefs Eagles do.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you I mean, I mean, you see it
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: all the time.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, up and down. But but the schedule
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: is much more favorable for the Texans. I agree with
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville almost has to win that game in two weeks.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with that now.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: I think that's I think they have to win the
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: next two, both division games. You need both of these
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: next too, without a doubt.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: You locked them already, so and they're going to win
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the next two. Lock it right now?
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Wow again? Double lock?
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Well, well, I've yet to hear the lock.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: We're double locking the Tennessee game. I'm not ready to
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: go after the Texans game yet.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you Joe for finally doing the lock.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Brent Reaver.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: But that's whoever is back there sleeping on the job
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: He locked it like fifteen minutes.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've been locking it over and over again
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: and I can't get anything.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: You got it now twice, thank you congratulations.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it look it's a big game in two weeks.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: It's a big it's a big flex what's the Sunday Night,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: No Sunday.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Night game is getting out. So I think if if
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: I look at the Monday night maybe Monday Night game
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: that week is awful, I think if I'm not mistaken, really,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: If both if both the Jags which they're gonna win,
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: have already guaranteed that, and the Texans play who Arizona
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Arizona they're gonna win.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: The Monday night game is bears vikings.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: That that Cardinal game isn't gonna be as easy.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: For No, it won't be because Kyler Murray play actually played pretty.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Well in Yeah.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: So I don't think it gets flexed because of the markets.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Like whatever hold on is allowed to revise your block.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: If Jacksonville's offense looks like crap again next week revising.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not revising it. I will not back down.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: I am not like you, Pete, depending on which way
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: the wind blows. Hence why I got the colors on
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: today after getting our asses.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Beat, I think consistent about my bashing on that offense
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: all year. So I don't know. I don't I don't
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: jump back and forth.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: But yeah, they're not going to what I was saying
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: before you interrupted me, Pete. They're not gonna flex that game.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: And when people have to realize flexing has as much
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: to do with market the record as the market, right,
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: like like for the Jags to get flex you gotta understand. Hence,
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: why do you think our national televised night games are
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: later in the season so that if we weren't.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Good, they could flex us out. They're not worried about
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: flexing the Jets i e. Last night or the Giants
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: i e. On Sunday night because they know that those
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: are huge markets and people are going to watch them
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: even if they stink because they have a big fan base.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: And Jacksonville Texans, if they were both with one loss,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be a game that most people would watch. I
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: hate to say that, but that's the reality.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I disagree. I think that changes in the year.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: The way that people are interested nationally in markets like
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: the Texans and the and the Jaguars, or Houston and
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: jackson Will. Probably better way to say it is when
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: you have franchise quarterbacks and you are winning Super Bowls
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: or Computing AFC Championships. I mean then it's like like
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: we don't care what market you're in because but by
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: the way, you know, because then you grow your fan
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: base nationally.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: The city exhibit A, Kansas City.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Green Bay over the years, I mean Seattle, Seattle. So yes,
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: I mean you got to be you have to be
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: good though, you have to be good year over year,
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: and you have to have star players. That's what people
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: tune into to watch.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Right And by the way, get ready for the tailgate
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: with Tony benefiting the Baselli Foundation is coming up Sunday
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: this Sunday Park ahead of the Titans Jaguars game ten
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: am to twelve thirty. Live music, Q and A with
• 56:56
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• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Visit Bisselli Foundation dot com for more and there's a
• 57:04
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• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Nice. You know what we should have done?
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: What's that, Pete?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do?
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Because this tailgate is gonna be an annual thing. Now
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: We're going big tailbate every year. Next year, Pete, We're
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: gonna figure out how to get you up for the
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: tailgate with Tony, And we're gonna do a thirty minute.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Show on the stage.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: With you and I taking you get me off on
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: a Sunday.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I'll figure out to do.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: You and I taking questions from all the fans, just
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: like we would in the old days, when the phone
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: lines we bring.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: We can bring Danny Canel with us.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, who was your guy, Pete?
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Boy. I'll tell you what JP. Jacksonville's fans. Anybody who
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: ever doubts them needs it, needs to pay attention to
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: what happened after that. I mean, my god, they were vicious.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: They were I mean, they defended their honor. It was amazing.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And part of the problem is though, and I like Danny,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: he's a good guy. Yeah, Danny's dude, good dude. But
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: he said something that was stupid.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: I agree, And then you tried to correct him and
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: help him, and he doubled down.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I sent it out the next day and that
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: that kind of led it. He was actually trending on
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: x he was trending. Jacksonville fans made him trend. I
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: mean it was well.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Speaking of national guys taking shots, it didn't take Richard
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: Sherman to back to jump back in at what he
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: said on the Thursday night game about Trevor Lawrence not
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: being you know, not living up to the hype and
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: not playing well.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: As soon as that.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Game was over yesterday, he decided to go back on
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: X and make sure he posts like, hey told you
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: I was right.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Basically well, in fairness of Richard Sherman, Trevor Lawrence hasn't
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: lived up.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: To the hype. Well, no, including my hype. And that
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: was Richard's point. Richard's point was he everyone's talked about.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: He's a generational talent. And Richard did say in the
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Things said.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: Listen, he's a he's a very talented player. He just
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: hasn't met the expectations. The bar is very high for
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: Trevor in his opinion.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Well, and I would agree with that one hundred percent.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Let's come back and we're gonna keep it real when
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: because we've been fake, we have been fake ulshit.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: We're faking it, faking it.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Faking it until we're making it, and we're making it
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: when we come back with wide receiver talk and Calvin Ridley.
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  Speaker 10: You know, possibly just just maybe, you know, speeding some
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: things up in his mind, you know, you know obviously
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 10: when we failed to execute even around him, right, there's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: there's there's problems there on plays that we should we
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: should know we run them all the time. And and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 10: then you know, you can't you can't put yourself in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 10: the third downs like we did and or turn the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 10: ball over like we did and expect to do anything
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 10: with it, you know, and it just you put your
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 10: defense in a bind, you put special teams in a bind.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 10: And you know that's the that's again, that's the disappointing part.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: That's Stefan Peterson of course. After the game yesterday thirty
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: four to three loss to the San Francisco forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 3: but chicken palm sandwich cut up into thirds and Casadia
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: veggie Casadia tonight, Pete.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: So what a spread you went with the chicken palm?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: I had one little nibble of chicken parm, that's right.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: And I had a little slice of case of THEA
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: and one wing had a wing, Tony.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: You nothing.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Still out there?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: I got in here at my usual time thirty seconds
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: before we go on air, so I have time to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: make it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, it's time to keep it real. Presented
• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: play Calvin Ridley in the game yesterday. Took him a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: while to get even targeted in the game, but he
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: finished it. Finished the game with three targets, two catches,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: twenty yards.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: So what are his numbers on the year? I'll get
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: I want to give me that real quick before you
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: ask you carus to stand by, let me get disappointing.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Well, Pete, thanks, that's great way, and keep it wait
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: and keep it real, Pete.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: The numbers on the year for Calvin Ridley sixty one targets,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: thirty five catches, four hundred and seventy one yards and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: two touchdowns. His last touchdown was in London against the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, his former team. And he does have, by
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: the way, just off to the side, note here seven
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: flags of defensive pass interference when he has been the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: targeted player. Six of those accepted, including one yesterday late
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: in and.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: You said four to thirty five.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Well he was grabbed. He was grabbed
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: on that one, right, yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Break thirteen and a half yards per catch, longest thirty two.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: It's his longest catch is thirty two yards this year.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: So where is Calvin? How do you get him more
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: involved in the offense?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: That's that's how we're gonna keep it real tonight, Tony,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: would you like to begin, Well.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing that if you would have told me
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: after nine games that Calvin Ridley was on pace for
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: sixty six catches, eight and twenty one yards and four
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: touchdowns this year, you are crazy. I mean, I would
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: never imagine the numbers would be that pedestrian. But that's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: where that's where he's trending. Based on where he is
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: after nine games.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: What did you say? He has now thirty five five
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: catches for so think about this. He had seven in
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: the first half of the first game.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: So since the first half of the first game he
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: has twenty eight catches.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: That's incredible. Maybe he doesn't like the bubble screens like
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: everybody else does.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: And he had one hundred He had one hundred yards
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: in the first half of that game.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: JP's well, he had ninety two ninety two so long catch.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: What did you say? As long?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Was as long for the season's thirty two yards.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: And twenty nine yard catch in the first first half
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: of that game.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: He had a thirty two yarder against Buffalo in London.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: So since the first half of the season he has
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: had three hundred and forty two yards.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: And twenty eight catches.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: And twenty eight catches.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: How many touchdowns does he have too? So and one
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: one touchdown because he had one in the first half.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: One touchdown. That that is mind boggling.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Well, they actually did throw the ball down the field
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: in that first half of that game.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: Well, they ran a bunch of deep comebacks. Yeah, how
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: do you get him more involved?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Well, the New Orleans game, I'm gonna throw this. In
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: the New Orleans game they doubled them though.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they doubled guess who else they double every
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: other number one.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Receiver wide receiver, that's aj Brown, go down the way.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: That's that's played out too. He's not a number one
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: wide receiver. Until you learn how to handle that double,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: you're not a number one wide receiver.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: So where So.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: But the question is Pete, how do you get him
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: more involved? Well, one, you got I mean, he's got
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: to go win, he's got to create separation.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: You gotta put him in situations.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Where you can get you know, get the opportunity for
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: him to go beat somebody or find the soft spot
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: on his own.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: And then the quarterbacks to him and delivered the ball
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: Well, here's the other part of it. The big play
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: to Kirk was from the slot, the slot Faye where
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: they picked and he had the big playoffs and they
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: could do that with him sometimes they don't. They could
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: you they could try that with with Ridley, just to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: get him going and get him down the field.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: Remember a couple of plays I think it was in
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: London where they did like a toss to him, an
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: end around kind of thing. A couple of times.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: An accident that's an accident. Don't don't don't get them,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: don't get him any ideas JP, because they'll come back
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: and use that next week.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Saying don't I don't know, because the day play football.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: Get him the ball and football. He's a wide receiver.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: Get him the ball, and if you got to move him,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: move him, get him on the move, get more stuff
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: happening in the middle of the field, get him, get
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: picks and rubs and do all that again. Get back
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: to that. The biggest play of the game on Sunday
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: was a pick. That's what it was. It was a pick.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: They did a great job at him in the slot.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: He picked the guys the other wide receiver picked that,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: he got wide open, and he hit him down the field.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Do more of that, I mean, I mean so yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: I mean find situations through formation alignment, everything else where
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: you're gonna get a one on one look and go tell.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Him to go.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: There have been games Tony where they've been poor against
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: zone coverage because they run right to the guy.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: I thought, like, listen and again everyone listening understand this.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: I can break down the offensive line in detail and
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: just by watching tape.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I am not a route the route tree, but I'm
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: not like a route tree route combination. This comfage. Do
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: this and everything else.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: So what I'm about to say, I'm just qualifying with that.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: But watching the tape, my goodness, it felt like guys
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: were just running to where they were and just stopping
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: and covering themselves up. And I don't know if that's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: by you know, is that on Press and Doug as
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: far as play design, is that guys not understanding what
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: they're asked to do against certain coverages?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Is it just poor routes? I have no idea, but
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I saw.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: And and Calvin Ridley Pete is a vertical receiver. He's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: a long go down, deep comebacks, deep ends, posts, go routes, and.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: This team does not run a lot of that.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: Like I was thinking, like, just as you were talking, Pete,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: how many post patterns have they run where we see
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence just go back, move the safety and just
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: launch it and let the guy go try to make
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: a play.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: And right, you know, or the.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: Deep or the deep or the deep in.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: Or the dig routes, and like for some reason it
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: felt like they ran a lot more of those last
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: year was a Jones And maybe I'm just again.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: No you're not You're not wrong.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: And so if you have a guy who's a vertical threat,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: but you're not calling and you know, schematically doing a
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: lot of vertical threat plays. Maybe that's it. I don't know,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: but I know this. Nobody would have bet that after
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: nine games that calin Ridley would have thirty five catches
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: in four under thirty five yards on pace to go
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: sixty six and eight twenty one and the vast majority
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: of that so far to this point, basically almost twenty
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: five percent of his production came in.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: The first quarter.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: It was seventy first half.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: Accuse me, not first quarter, first half of the opening game.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. It would be a you know, it'd.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: Be a great conversation which we'll never get have and
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have it with us either if I was
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: Press or Doug, but just to sit down, have a
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: beverage of choice and just say, hey, help us, help
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: me understand because I'm like, I'm I'm seriously curious because
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: I'm not an expert.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: You know what they would say, he doesn't like our
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: bubble screens.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: No, they would not, bee, But you know what I mean.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think you and I both understand the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: game and the basic of what we're trying to.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's I think there's a real I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: think A he hasn't learned how to handle the double
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: as a one. B. I don't think they call a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: lot of routes that he would look comfortable in, Like
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: you said, and see this sped up to get deep
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: shots down the field. You can't be sped up. It's
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: the offensive line has sped up Trevor Lawrence, who's sped
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: up himself in a lot of situations.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: And I'll say this, Pete, when they do go deep,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: I don't see Calvin creating a lot of space, a
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: lot of separation. No, it's not like he's winning where
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: it's like a no brainer, like why aren't we throwing
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: to him?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Why aren't we doing this more often?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: And I thought, I don't know if you saw when
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: you watch the tape of your noses the forty, they
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: were physical with those receivers. They hands on and they
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: got a called a couple of times. But they got
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: away with them too. But they put the That was
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: like the game plan too. We're putting our hands on them.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: That's how I mean, that's how they play now. And
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: I think Doug talked about this today and JP brought
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: it up last week, and it's fair. He leads the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: NFL and forced DPIs correct, and so so what is
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: that seven or eight of those?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: The number officially a seven flags six accepted penalty.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: So let's say seven of those. I'll give him seven
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: more catches.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: And for probably a lot of those are big plays, so.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Probably okay, so go give him seven more for another
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: two fifty?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: Who else else is leading in the category, JP, I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: mean if you look at the teams, other teams, like.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Other teams, So Sutton and Denver, okay, lot Cooper and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Cleveland and Brown and Arizona, those are the top guys.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of other than Marky's Brown. There's a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: lot of physical guys.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: In that well in here. But here's their thing, you know.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: And you don't see a J.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: Brown or Tyreek or Tyreek Hill or because because the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill is running by everyone so they can't.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: They can't touch.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: You don't see Jamar Chase And you don't see Jamar
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Chase or a J.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: You know why, because they go win the fifty to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: fifty ball, they throw a penalty and it's declined because
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: they catch it and take the ball right.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: Right, So what is Kirk? How many catches is Kirk catch?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to Kirk and he has forty nine
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: for six hundred and twenty four yards. That's twelve point
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: seven per catch. His long this year as a forty
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: five yarder and that was back in Week two. He
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: had a forty four yarder for a touchdown in New Orleans.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Of course, how many yards did you say? I'm sorry?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Six twenty four and.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: His numbers are actually projecting out to where we probably
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: thought they would be.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, agreed, Yeah, he's projecting right now to just under
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: twelve hundred yards and he has forty nine catches.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: He has forty nine catches on seventy one.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Eighty five catches, maybe eighty nine catches.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Ninety two catches.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's about what you thought he would do.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: He's actually been the better receiver.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: The leading receiver on the team by catches. Evan Ingram
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: fifty five catches, four hundred and forty six yards, no
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: touchdowns yet for the Jaguars tight end, but entering this
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: game this past year and Dunkers, that's right, he was
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: leading the league in percentage of catches to targets among
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: receivers and tight ends in.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, I mean that puts. I mean, if he
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: stays on pace, he's over one hundred and three how
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: many yards.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: For forty six?
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: That's sticking and duncan it's like that he's the bubble
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: screen recipient.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Eight yards of catch.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll he'll have basically one hundred and three if
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: he stays on pace one hundred and three catches four
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: hundred and I mean eight and forty two.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: Yards have a set.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: By the way, did Trevor throw for yesterday?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: By the way, Trevor was ane pass.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: If you took away screens and bubble.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Screens, well you don't get any throw.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: Didn't throw anything.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that that I mean party through for two
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: ninety three. And if you take away his crossers and
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: you know a little.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about crossers, Tony, I'm talking about stand
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: up and screen, the throw, bubble screen, quick screen or
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: screen to the back.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: How many how many yards does Trevor have this year?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Trevor so far this season is just over two thousand.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: But let me get the official Yeah, twenty one twenty.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: You know they're last in the league. And throws of
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: twenty yards or more. I think.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: That's not good.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: That shouldn't be the case. That shouldn't be the case
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: with that guy's with that arm and that guy. That
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: should not be the case.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: One more thing on the receiving part of it. Travis
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: etn has twenty nine catches this season. That's only six
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: short of Calvin Ridley. Yeah.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: The bottom line is, as we kind of dissect these numbers,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: and I don't think I mean Pete and I have
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: a general response to how do you get Calvin going
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I think you have
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: design more vertical stuff. He's got to win though, too.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: He's got to create separation, which.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: You know they didn't do on Sunday.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: Sure, and yeah, and then Trevor's got to get the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: ball to him.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: But what we do, what he could do, he could
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: end up with onwenty catches. He could just stand up
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: catch the bubble screen every play.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: But Pete, but back all in all seriousness, if you
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: just go through the numbers we just talked about and
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: set aside Pete's idiotic bubble screen reference for the five
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: and fifty fifth times, we get it, Pete, what we're
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: really saying it's not just Calvin Ridley. This is a
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: passing offense. It's struggling, Like were they like the whole
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: passing attack right now is is underperforming at least where
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: the three of us thought it would be. Like where
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: do they rank in the NFL?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: It's way underperforming. But what I thought it would be,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: by the way, I'll be honest with.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: You, team rankings. The Jacksonville Jaguars offense, it's about passing numbers. Yeah,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: passing numbers seventeenth in yardage per game, fifteenth yardage per play. Yeah,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: so like middle.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Middle, Like total offense is middle of the pack two
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: if I'm not there.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: And then and then yards for play is a little
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: misleading too. It's you know again, you gotta look at
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: air yards per play. You got to go through those
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: numbers and find out what they're compared to other teams.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: And what's the other thing?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: The new one is like points expected above points expected
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: or points whatever.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: But but you can watch their tape and see they
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: don't challenge down the field. That's the that's the end.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: And and the forty nine ers said it last week
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: before the game. They said it, and then they played
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: right into their hands. They said it. They put a
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: force field up at ten yards with a quarterback as
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: a canon, and they just they did did the exact
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: same thing that he said they were gonna do. If
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: you're the forty nine ers, if you okay this week,
• 1:16:40
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• 1:16:45
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• 1:16:48
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• 1:16:52
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  Speaker 3: up with at Sick with It ninety eight. Has Lawrence regressed?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: How yeah?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: Talking me through that, Pete, Well, he's not playing as
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: fast mentally as he did at the end of last year.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: It's just not the same. He's staying on his first
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: read too soon, he's not getting off of it, and
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: and and I think that's the regression now. Is part
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: of that? To blame on the offensive line, yes, is
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: part of that. To blame on the receivers not winning
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, Yes, But again, there are plays throughout the season.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: And I said it earlier, long before Sunday where he
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: is taking. He has taking an easy throw in the
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: first read and passed on the second throw. So yes,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: to answer your question, he's regressed. Is it fixable. Yes,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: it's fixable. But I think mechanically he's not the same.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: And I think going through his progressions and reads in
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: terms of timing, he's not the same.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: So I think it's you know, you can be you
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: kin have a bias after a game like yesterday and
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: how you answered this question and watching yesterday, it would
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: be unequivocal. Yes, he has regressed, But I also think
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: it's dangerous to look at, you know, one piece of
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: data and to make overwhelming statements. With that said, it's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: I'm not full. I see where Pete's coming from. And
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: I think, if like, what's his touchdown the interception ratio
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: right now, it's like it's in.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: The six, I mean eight, isn't it nineus seven? What
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: is it JP?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: I think it's nine to six.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: So whether it's nine to six, nine to seven, nine eight,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: it does not matter. The fact after nine games ninety six,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: after the fact after nine games he's only thrown nine
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: touchdowns speaks to the productivity. Those aren't numbers that you
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: know franchise quarterbacks, guys who are you know, are considered
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: the best or one of the best at the position.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: Those aren't the numbers you're putting up. And that's not
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: the touchdown the interception ratio you're putting up. It'd be
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: one thing if it was nine to one and you
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: could say, Okay, this is a run heavy team. They
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: got a great offensive line that runs the ball, they
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: got a big back, they're playing great defense. That's how
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: they want to play football. Okay, fine, you're not taking
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: a lot of risks, and you know.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: That's your style. But that's not the Jaguars.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: Yes, they want balance, but they're a spread, throw the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: ball around, throw the ball around the yard type of team.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: And the fact that he only has nine touchdowns and
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: he has six in perceptions, that's not even a two.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: To one is what is their identity on offense? Give me, somebody,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: just tell it. Give me, give me, give me a
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: sentence on what their identity offensive identity.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Is right now, Pete, I would say they're a team
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: that wants to spread you out and force you to
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: play sideline the sideline and kind of and try to
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: find seams as they go horizontal to have you know,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: create run game lay lanes in the run game, you know,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: through inside outside zone some power and then you know,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: you know, run after the catch with shallow crossings, bubble
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: screens and the such.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: That's how I describe them right now.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: And you would think with a quarterback who's six six
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: with a cannon for an arm, that it would be
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: more vertical.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: That's not what we've seen. So has he regressed?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: Change? That's the question changed?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: Do I still believe Trevor Lawrence has a ton of talent?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: Is the right guy?
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I believe it. Does everyone need to play better,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: including Trevor?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: Next question at Laxer five six four after nine games
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: in the offense struggling, is it time for Doug to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: take back play calling to get the JAG's the best
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: chance to win.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: Let's just stop this now? Well, seeing this on Twitter,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: hold on Pete before you go the answers.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: No, Doug is still involved.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: If you pay attention to the game, he has the
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: play sheet and him and Press are talking their entire team.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: And guess who's in Trevor's year telling him what play
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: it is?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: It's Doug.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: So you think Doug still call it some other plays.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: I think Doug influences what's going on. I think press
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: is calling it.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: And let's not forget last year press called every second
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: half of the games.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: Or they say, okay, well.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Are you calling them liars?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: Now? Pete, I'm just when you prop up a guy,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: which incidentally was leaked to day before the season started
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: for some reason, we prop up a guy, you're gonna
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: you just go back and say that why didn't you
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: say it last year that press was calling the.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: Place in a second because no one asked, come on, Tony,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: So Peter, I'm just gonna ask you a strange question.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: It's very It's a yes or no. I don't want
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  Speaker 5: to hear a bunch of you know journalism. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you know what do you think the organization and Doug
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  Speaker 5: Peters are lying that press did? Did not the press
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  Speaker 5: called the plays in the second half of every game
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  Speaker 5: last year?
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  Speaker 4: Do you think you know that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Take it. I'm also here and blindly believe that he
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  Speaker 4: did either. So you you.
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  Speaker 2: Are questioning their integrity that.
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  Speaker 4: You believe that they can in their integrity, you want
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  Speaker 4: to prop up a guy. Okay, whoever's calling the plays,
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  Speaker 4: they stink how about that, whether they're being called by press,
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  Speaker 4: intercepted by Doug, or changed in the huddle by Trevor,
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  Speaker 4: they stink. The play stink.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine, But my question was why I believe
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  Speaker 5: Doug at face value if he says that press called
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  Speaker 5: him last year.
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  Speaker 2: He called him last year.
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  Speaker 5: So based on that, they had a lot of success
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  Speaker 5: in the second half of games last year, especially down
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  Speaker 5: the stretch. I'm like, I'm not putting this on press,
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  Speaker 5: Like changing the play caller is going to make everything
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  Speaker 5: better offensively.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny because I looked up the game against the Chargers,
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  Speaker 4: and I always remember I remember that game differently, and
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  Speaker 4: I looked at the numbers. Do you know what Trevor
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: threw for in that game? No? To eighty? What'd you
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: think he threw for three thirty three forty something down?
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  Speaker 4: And you know what? And I think his longest completion
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: was like not that long. I just think that they
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: should be a much more vertical or tried to be
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: a much more vertical. His longest completion in that game
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  Speaker 4: was thirty nine yards and it was a touchdown. It
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  Speaker 4: was to Zay Jones and the and to make it
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  Speaker 4: thirty to twenty. Next question, they must really miss Sake
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  Speaker 4: Jones though more than we know.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like that, Righty said that as much? Yeah
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  Speaker 3: at PD coach Nelson. Could it be that we are
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: just good, not great and that the preseason expectations from
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  Speaker 3: US fans was a bit too much.
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  Speaker 2: That's a resounding.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, me too.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, you're not just the fans, the media
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  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah you had so you had them at
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: thirteen and four going to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I had them. I hope you don't get there.
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  Speaker 2: I had them at eleven and six.
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  Speaker 4: But okay, yeah, we were high in the preseason. One
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  Speaker 4: two came back and won against the Colts, then went
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: to New Orleans and won. Then they went on the
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: road and won. Everybody's like, oh, they won on every
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: different continent in every game and they really are for real,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: And then you have that game like that. So the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: whole time, the offense has been a problem.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: So I think the offense has been clunky all year.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: I don't think they put a complete game together yet.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: But I mean, not to just prop myself up, but
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: might as well because Pete's not going to I did
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: say they'd be eleven and six at the beginning of
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: the year. Pete has now come to my side of
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: the equation and thinks they'll be eleven and six as well.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: You were right, and so I still think they're going
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: to win the division. I thought they'd win the division before.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: The only thing that I might change my perspective on
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: if the offense does not get better and more production,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to the AFC title game,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: and I did think that at the beginning of the season.
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  Speaker 4: If the offense place like it has over the course
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: of the first nine games, they're not winning a playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: It depends on who they play.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if they get Josh Dobbs or something, I mean
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  Speaker 4: back when he was playing for the Titans, a guy
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  Speaker 4: like that, then they could win one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what if they got the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the Steelers are gonna make.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: Right now they're in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: Beat the Steelers.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: Let's get one more question then at randall flag eighty one,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: there's really not much to discuss. We got our ask kicks.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: So glad this wasn't flexed a prime time Who was
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: everybody else?
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  Speaker 4: Those NBC first and foremost.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Tough day at the office.
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  Speaker 2: So you have it.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: The questions are in the fanatics.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: Eater than that. JP. You went nice tonight. You didn't
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: put the mean ones out. You're too nice.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: Well, you guys talk too long about wide receiver play
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: a minute ago.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: No, there were there were more. There were angry fans
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: I liked a lot of them. There are a lot
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: of angry fans out there.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: There were fans that. Okay, I'm gonna defend the stupidity
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: of some fans because I defend them when I when
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: I can. The Trevor Lawrence is a bus Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 4: should be benched. Fans out there, you need to shut
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: that lop. Okay, way too early for that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is what you do, like anyone can
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  Speaker 2: wear the colors JP when you're on a five game
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  Speaker 2: winning streak and everyone's high five and all you know,
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  Speaker 2: every text you know or every post we got on
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  Speaker 3: Can I have your tickets some day?
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  Speaker 5: And now they get beat they got blown out, bad game,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: and you would think this team's in last place, fighting
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: for the first overall pick, and like the sky is falling,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: and you know there's no, hope. Let me just ask
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: the question, and I just did this via text with
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: a bunch of my knucklehead friends, because they're no different
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  Speaker 5: than what we get on the X on the.
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  Speaker 2: Post we receive.
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  Speaker 5: Is if I'd have told you in July this team
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  Speaker 5: would be six and three in first place the division
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: one game maybe a game and a half because the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: tie breakers out of the number one seed of the
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: entire conference, with the Titans and the Texans coming up
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: the next two weeks, would you be happy?
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  Speaker 2: Would you think, Okay, we're in a good position.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I believe so.
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  Speaker 2: You know how many times his franchise been six and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: three in the history of it? Not a lot.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: So it was bad. Yes, play calling could be better. Sure,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: offensive line needs a block better. Yes, Trevor Is didn't
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: play very good and is not playing at the level
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: everyone thought. Calvin Ridley's way behind. Yes, and from a
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: statistical standpoint, all true defense is way better than anyone
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: of us thought. They're six and three, they're in first place.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: Take a deep breath and relax. Now the next five
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: weeks are critical, starting with this week and next week
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: because they're both division games. Then you play really three
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: teams in the AFC in a row that are playoff
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: contenders or people fighting to win their own division. Great,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: you know, one of them has a great defense, one
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: of them is very good. Complete team, both are I mean,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: all three are good. So like we'll find out where
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: we still I mean this is this.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: Is I can go to the other side and say,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: if I told you before the season that Justin Fields
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: and mac Jones would have more touchdown passes than Trevor
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: Lawrence at this point in the season, would you be
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: happy with the year?
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 5: But guess what, Pete, how many Let me ask you
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: a question at the end of the year, when we
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: all wrap this up, what does everyone care about more
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: than anything?
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: Winning?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Winning?
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: What's the only thing that matters that we talk about
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: all the time at the end of the day, is winning?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Winning anything? No, find a way to win your division.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: That's sitting right in front of you, and Pete, You
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: and I agree, and all everyone who's wrote written in
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: on X and every fan that I've talked to, we
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: all agree. It's not good enough. That was embarrassing. The
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: players agree.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: Doug has said, so he had a list how many
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: times does the coach come out with a list of
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: the press conference.
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  Speaker 2: Start reading off the mistakes that they made. You know
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: that's bad. You know it's a bad game. It was awful,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: it was embarrassing. We've lost three games at home. I
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: don't like that. And we've lost ugly twice.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: Against the Texans in and now the forty nine ers
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: at home.
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  Speaker 3: Not good.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: I agree with all that. My point is everything's right
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: in front of you. You're in first place. Go beat
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: the Titans, who you're better than and are not very good.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: And then go before the biggest game of the year
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: against the Texans, because they're probably gonna win. They're gonna
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 5: be six and five. You're gonna be seven to three
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: place on the line. You just had another game like
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: that a couple of weeks ago against the Colts here.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: You won that one. Go beat them. Because here's the thing, Pete,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: you and I both know this. This will not be
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: to be decided by stats or anything else. This will
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: be decided if you can go.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: Beat teams that are good teams and position yourself to
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: win the division and get a home playoff game.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: This I mean, so you set yourself.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: It's not like last year or at this point we
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: were so far behind the eight ball. We needed to
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: go on a historic run and have a historic collapse
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 5: by the Titans to get into the playoffs. We're in
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: a much better position than we were last year, and
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: we're a better team than we were last year. Now,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: we just got to go perform, and it starts offensively.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, Pete. We have not been very good offensively.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, you're right, you just got to win
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: the games. But if they don't get the offense cranked up,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: they're not winning games. I don't care who they're playing.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: That means changing.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: It, Yeah, I mean I think much can.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: You change in?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not changed the plate. I'm saying changed getting the
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: ball down the field vertical, vertical, vertical pizza. It's not horizontal,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: it's vertical. The passing game is meant to be vertical.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: What Pene is saying, and I get it.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: He's not saying schematically like change the offense and personnel
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: and everything.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: He's because they have those plays in.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: He's saying, change how you call the game correct.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: Monday Night Football, it's a battle of average teams. Russell
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Wilson in the three and five Denver Broncos carry back
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: to back wins. They're coming off the bye week. They'll
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: visit Josh Allen and the five and four Buffalo Bills,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: who you'd got an Orchard Park tonight.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, it's a little awkward when you don't
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: get the music right away. It's like you scream it.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: You're the screaming Man without your music. Am I right?
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Tony was just like the screaming Man.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, And I'm just glad it's the awkward part.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: I'm just glad Pete he didn't flub it again like
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 5: he did the last two weeks where he was a disaster.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: It was embarrassing and frankly, I wanted to leave the show.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: Because you were show anyway, because it was over.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: That's a good point, well said.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: I like Buffalo. This is a get right game. They
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: will have a big day offensively, and you know what
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: they will do tonight, which they haven't been doing as
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: much vertical passing game. How about that?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: I like the Bills too because they need it. They're
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: a playoff team and right now they're on the outside
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: looking in. The Broncos are not going anywhere this year,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: and so it's on the road up in Buffalo. Those
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: fans are some of the best fans in the NFL.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: To me, rocking. My son is actually at the game
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: tonight in Buffalo Wow, because his cousin, my nephew goes
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: plays hockey for the University of Buffalo or Buffalo State,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: one of those schools, and he went out to see
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: him for his twenty first birthday and they're going to
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: the game tonight.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: So big time, Yeah, good time, good fun.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: You know what what entertains me is when Pete Priscoe
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: leans into the camera to say vertical, to make it
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: more vertical, more of an emphasis, like we didn't hear
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: you already?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I could talk about bubble screens
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: again if you want me to, I'd.
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  Speaker 2: Rather not, Thank you very much.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: Wow. What a week, Pete. Have a good one and
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: we will talk to you next week after a double
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: lock win.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: We got two locks and we have a lock for
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: the following week as well. Already, and uh listen, Jag fans,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be okay.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: This team will get it turned around.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: I expect an offensive explosion this week against the Tennessee Titans.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: So twenty points.
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  Speaker 3: Better than three a's Pete prisco Tony Vasseli. I'm JP Shadwick.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for watching and for listening. It is Jaguars
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