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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, December 11 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Jaguars Did Jack
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Did you go? Jaguars Drive Time, Ryan Sex steps
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Speaker 1: that John O. J Ashley Jaguars Drive Time starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome Jaguars Drive Time Wednesday morning, brought
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Speaker 1: to you by Duval Motor Company. It's a very big
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Speaker 1: day to day. The Jaguars are back on the practice
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Speaker 1: field getting ready to go to Oakland. But it's even
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Speaker 1: bigger day. Oh, it's a massive day because it's the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars gingerbread housemaking contests today and the reigning Champ's champ.
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Speaker 1: It's Brooks Brothers is right here, Hello, John, big day,
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Speaker 1: my favorite day. It's the most wonderful day. Can you
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Speaker 1: do that in Andy Williams key? I can do it
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Speaker 1: in any key? You know, Hey, you know it's I
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Speaker 1: will built that attend. Let's just point this out when
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Speaker 1: you're four and nine, when when you've lost five games
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Speaker 1: in a row by how many points? Have they lost
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Speaker 1: five games in a row by at least an average
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Speaker 1: an average of twenty one. It's it's an average of
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Speaker 1: thirty one to ten that they've been beaten. Um, guys
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Speaker 1: are going on into reserve elect and right it just
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Speaker 1: everything is so good. You have to create your own energy.
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Speaker 1: You have to manufacture your own energy. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like John did that energy because that he came in
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Speaker 1: with sort of a gingerbread mentality and brought us all
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Speaker 1: up to his level. So let's do a good show today, guys,
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Speaker 1: let's do it. Sign me up. Well, big things we're
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Speaker 1: getting in our feelings today, getting in our fields, as
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Speaker 1: the kids say. Big Thing one is confidence? Does this
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Speaker 1: team still have confidence? Do they still believe in themselves?
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Speaker 1: What can they be confident as a head to the
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Speaker 1: West Coast. Great question. I don't have the answer. Maybe
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Speaker 1: you two do. That's about leave it up to you.
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Speaker 1: I know what I'm confident in. Big Thing to anger.
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Speaker 1: How does Doug myr own channel the anger of the
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Speaker 1: players and drown out the anger of the fan base
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Speaker 1: to create a positive outcome on Sunday? Sounds like a
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Speaker 1: tough task. Sounds easier said than done. Big Thing three Pride.
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Speaker 1: This is a big one. What does pride even have
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Speaker 1: to do with it? What is this team have to
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Speaker 1: play for? Pride? Is that where we are? Yes? I indeed?
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Speaker 1: Do you think is about pride? Right now, you know.
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Speaker 1: And first of all, great energy. I mean you just
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Speaker 1: nailed big things exactly the way that I envisioned them
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Speaker 1: when we wrote them. Thank you so much, so much.
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Speaker 1: This is not right now. Very proud franchise. No. Two
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Speaker 1: years ago they felt as if they had rekindled some
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Speaker 1: of that pride. But over the last games they've won
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Speaker 1: six and lost nineteen. Forget the last five the way
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Speaker 1: you can't really forget the last five. There is we
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Speaker 1: said a low ebb right now, and historically every franchise
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Speaker 1: has this point. It's just word the misfortunate ones that
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Speaker 1: were living through this right now. Uh and you know
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Speaker 1: we're talking and that's all we have to do today.
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Speaker 1: But those guys have got to figure out a way
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Speaker 1: to find some confidence, to channel the anger and play
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Speaker 1: with some right on Sunday. You know, Well there's no confidence.
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Speaker 1: Um yeah, And that's a great point. There is no confidence.
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Speaker 1: Well there can't be. I mean you've lost five in
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Speaker 1: a row and it's been a hundred and seventy four
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Speaker 1: or fifty seven. There can't be confidence. So fine, I
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Speaker 1: mean it's ten points. Uh, so forget confidence. But I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying that to be negative and saying to be realistic. UM,
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Speaker 1: I do think that they'll play for personal pride. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you're at the point now where they're looking for something. Um,
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Speaker 1: you can get confidence if you get lead. This is
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Speaker 1: the old thing we've been told for a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: When you're out of it, if if, if you can
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Speaker 1: get up early, have something good happen, then you can
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Speaker 1: get some confidence. Then you're an NFL football player. Then
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Speaker 1: you've been playing the game all your life. Things can
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Speaker 1: come back. So that's always your chance. The the issue
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Speaker 1: with bad teams that were a bad team is when
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Speaker 1: you get behind, everything just sort of snowballs and players
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Speaker 1: start playing for themselves. Players start playing to put things
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Speaker 1: on tape. You get out of schemes of defense, offense, whatever,
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Speaker 1: and with all you know, injuries didn't cause this season
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Speaker 1: to happen. This is not what the statements about. But injuries, Uh,
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Speaker 1: to Miles Jack, and Miles Jack is a better player
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Speaker 1: than Donald Paine, to Marcel Darius to a couple of
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Speaker 1: spots have really got them down on defense. But they
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Speaker 1: can't stop anymo So there's no confidence if you can't
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Speaker 1: stop the run. It all started there, It all started there.
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Speaker 1: You can't we You can't play to your great strength,
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Speaker 1: which is your pass rushers. Wait, what is to say
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Speaker 1: the mountain slided? Although they said bows and slided, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know what that meant. I didn't know if we're
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Speaker 1: going Germany. So yeah, it was subtle. It was just
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Speaker 1: like better. And then there's the obvious, the anger issue.
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Speaker 1: I'm very angry. Well, there are already a lot of
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Speaker 1: people that are very angry. My wife's angry. But that's
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Speaker 1: that's for another day. Again, it's an emotional you talked about.
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Speaker 1: Would you call it? Get your feels on? Yeah, get
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Speaker 1: my fields on the kids? Yeah, that's a song. I
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Speaker 1: think maybe it's not. I might have made that up.
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Speaker 1: So what feels should they have on this week? Anger?
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Speaker 1: I have a big thing. I think go to US
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Speaker 1: coast with pride. Play with pride. We'll talk about it
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Speaker 1: the next three weeks. It's your only option. They should feel,
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Speaker 1: they should feel embarrassed, and I'm sure they do, so
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Speaker 1: that's the thing to sort of play on. That turns
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Speaker 1: into pride. You know, if you're embarrassed, Doug more own
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Speaker 1: can appeal to these guys and hey, look your professionals, Um,
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Speaker 1: you've lost five in a row. By whatever the number is,
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Speaker 1: people are laughing at you, So make that stop. Well
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Speaker 1: and look, when you're old enough, you've been in a
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Speaker 1: situation where things seem hopeless. I don't know if I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you have experienced that in your young life.
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Speaker 1: But the only thing that changed for lauder Dale they're different.
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Speaker 1: But people who are watching this have probably been at
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Speaker 1: a point where like what in the world, and the
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Speaker 1: only thing that changes it is action. That's it. You
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Speaker 1: can't just sit there with your head in your hands
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Speaker 1: and you can't wait for things to change. So when
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Speaker 1: you talk about the pride of the franchise, re establishing
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Speaker 1: some pride, you know, franchise, just a baby step, just
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Speaker 1: a single step, might be what it takes to at
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Speaker 1: least start, Go play a game that's close in the
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and give the kid quarterback a chance to
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Speaker 1: do what he does right, the whole Minshue magic thing
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Speaker 1: go well enough that at least you can start. What
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Speaker 1: you've heard me say this before, but I think it
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Speaker 1: takes three miles for a cruise ship to turn around, right, Well,
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Speaker 1: that's a long way to turn around. The only way
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do that is she laughing at you or
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Speaker 1: made uh yeah, exactly. So turn the cruise ship around.
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Speaker 1: Start the turnaround started on Sunday in Oakland, even if
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Speaker 1: it feels like you gotta wait until you fire the
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Speaker 1: coach and fire the general manager and change the quarterback
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Speaker 1: and all of that stuff that everybody normally associates with
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Speaker 1: turning it around. Start the turnaround Sunday in Oakland by
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Speaker 1: playing a close game and ending this nonsense of five
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Speaker 1: straight losses by seventeen points. Because if you're not careful,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna own the NFL record, right, which is seven,
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Speaker 1: and yours will be eight if you don't turn it around.
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Speaker 1: So turn it around now or next week we'll show
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Speaker 1: you anchor Well, here's hope the Raiders have lost three
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Speaker 1: by twenty one or more. So you know I haven't.
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Speaker 1: I haven't looked it up. I can't find it on Google.
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Speaker 1: But that's got to be one team coming in five
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Speaker 1: in a row by seventeen the other one coming in
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Speaker 1: three in a row by twenty one. Got to be
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Speaker 1: a streak. That's that's I gotta be on some sort
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Speaker 1: of list, not unless you want to be bad. I
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Speaker 1: had no idea that it took three miles for a
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Speaker 1: cruise trip to turn around. You do well, now I do,
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Speaker 1: and I will take that with me today. You know,
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Speaker 1: if we can leave you with one little nugget that
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Speaker 1: you can use at some point. Somebody once said that
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Speaker 1: to me, and I stalked it away and I was
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Speaker 1: able to pull it out today and use it. Adds
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Speaker 1: game losing streak as they traveled to Oakland to face
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Speaker 1: the Raiders this Sunday. Well, there's nothing like going west
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Speaker 1: three thousand miles with five losses behind you. Absolutely, this
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Speaker 1: is also the last game that the Raiders will play
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Speaker 1: in Oakland. Going to be definitely a good atmosphere. It
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Speaker 1: is a phenomenal well, I mean it's a dump, let's
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Speaker 1: be honest, but the phenomenal it's a phenomenal dump. Right.
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Speaker 1: The history of the league has you know, since the
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Speaker 1: merger and even back to the a f L uh
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Speaker 1: ast the a f L was a league that was
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Speaker 1: arrival during the sixties. Um, the history, the players that
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Speaker 1: have come through there, I mean, it makes you feel
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Speaker 1: like The Raiders have been around since the twenties, uh,
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Speaker 1: and they came in with the merger in the seventies.
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Speaker 1: So just a rich, rich environment. Can't wait to get
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Speaker 1: out there. Someone who knows the Raiders very well, as
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Speaker 1: NFL Network reporter m J Acosta, who joins us. Now,
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Speaker 1: m J. How's it going? It's going pretty well. And
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Speaker 1: I do agree about the Oakland Colsseum for the record,
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Speaker 1: Oh hey and j we were out there in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen and I was standing, you know, outside
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Speaker 1: the visiting locker room, and I was telling somebody about
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Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna see all kinds of crap in
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Speaker 1: this old place. And I look up and there's a
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Speaker 1: rat staring down at me from one of the uh
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Speaker 1: the stanchions carrying all that cabling and wire uh into
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Speaker 1: what I guess is the dugout um. I looked up
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Speaker 1: as to see you. You can't make this stuff up.
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Speaker 1: Were you there in pub or the for the season opener,
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Speaker 1: the home opener? There was a skunk in the u
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Speaker 1: s you want up me, But John's got an even
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Speaker 1: better one. I was on the plane, so let me
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Speaker 1: tell the story. In nineties six, the Jags went out
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Speaker 1: there and Al Davis turned the plumbing off, and so
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Speaker 1: the whole plane smelled like a skunk the entire five
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Speaker 1: and a half hour ride back to Florida because nobody
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Speaker 1: could shower nice. My goodness, stop that one. The red
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Speaker 1: is one Jerry Ball. Jerry Ball, who was six ft
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Speaker 1: tall and six ft wide, rumbled like sixty six yards
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Speaker 1: for a touchdown. It was. It was an epically bad
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Speaker 1: day for the Jaguars at day, Oh my goodness, and
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Speaker 1: they smelled the whole way home. All right, So what
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Speaker 1: has happened to these Raiders recently? Three blowout losses in
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Speaker 1: a row. Gruden calls their place sickening recently. What's going on? Well,
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Speaker 1: here's the biggest thing. There's a ton of us circumstances,
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Speaker 1: let's say, but I think what it really tried translates
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Speaker 1: to excuses. So you'll hear a lot of the guys
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Speaker 1: that really bangs up. And not to take away from there,
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Speaker 1: it really gruesome travel schedule because it was it's been
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Speaker 1: insane for the Raiders going back and forth over oceans
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Speaker 1: and across the country. But the person who summed it
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Speaker 1: up perfectly was Derek Carr after their loss on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: he said, nobody cares. No one cares what has happened.
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Speaker 1: No one cares who's injured, No one cares how much
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Speaker 1: we've traveled. All people want to see as ws and
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Speaker 1: they haven't been able to pull that off in a
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Speaker 1: consistent manner in several weeks. At this point, Um and
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Speaker 1: Rinchia Cognito was talking in the locker room after after
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Speaker 1: the game on Sunday and he said, we just weren't
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Speaker 1: playing our best ball. The guys seem like they have
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Speaker 1: given up. For a guy in the locker rooms to
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Speaker 1: say that, like the guys are just completely deployed, I
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Speaker 1: think speaks to to the morale of the team right now.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's it's their mental state. Um, that's
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Speaker 1: that's hindering them the most at this point. You know,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have just fallen apart. They're just a bad
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Speaker 1: football team right now. There are a couple of pieces
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Speaker 1: that they can build around, but they're they're missing that
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Speaker 1: quarterback for them. They're in Jacksonville, they can start this
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Speaker 1: rebuilding process. But I thought the Raiders were trying to
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Speaker 1: go to Oakland in a position where they would Um,
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Speaker 1: they'd be ready to go flip the switch and let's
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Speaker 1: see this thing go. Do they have their quarterback? Are
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Speaker 1: they ready to go to Oakland even even despite the
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Speaker 1: travel and the losses this year. Do they feel like
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Speaker 1: when they get to Vegas they'll have something ready to
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Speaker 1: present as a product. You know, it's actually um gruten
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Speaker 1: about that. Earlier last week he said they have to
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Speaker 1: continue to string together these draft classes, right, so you
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Speaker 1: see the new work guys coming in and just bringing
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Speaker 1: kind of that that that surge of energy and talent.
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacob of course the number one UM kind of
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Speaker 1: break up start of the year. But in terms of
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Speaker 1: Derek Um it's been an interesting thing because at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the season he was setting career highs and having,
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Speaker 1: you know, putting up stats and number one completion percentage
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Speaker 1: around the league, and now sort of there's the drop ups.
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Speaker 1: The problem with Derek Carr in the consistency there and
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Speaker 1: whether it's the pieces around him or or the scheme itself.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's the scheme, because I think he
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Speaker 1: proved that he was able to really play under Routen
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Speaker 1: and be successful and show what he has. But if
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Speaker 1: they don't have that face behind him, I don't know
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Speaker 1: how that future looks for him in Vegas. The main
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Speaker 1: storyline or big story line this weekend. J's obviously in
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Speaker 1: the last game in Oakland, But how do you anticipate
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Speaker 1: this crowd being do they still care? Is it rowdy?
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Speaker 1: Is it angry? I mean, are they going to be
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Speaker 1: for the Raiders against him? How does this work? Oh? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean the Raider fans are unlike any other fan
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Speaker 1: base I've covered in in you know, my decade and
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Speaker 1: the covering the league. It's they're just such a unique
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Speaker 1: fan For example, I was in San Diego when the
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Speaker 1: Chargers left, and like the reaction to the Chargers leaving
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Speaker 1: as opposed to the Raiders. Knowing that the Raiders sarner
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Speaker 1: knowing that the Raiders are leaving night and day. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're still out there and they're still selling out the stadium.
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Speaker 1: They're kill gating hard, They're in the black hole. They're
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Speaker 1: mean um, And that's part of the essence of this team.
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Speaker 1: That's part of the grittiness that is the black hole,
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Speaker 1: and and sort of the gravitas of this fan base
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Speaker 1: has um and especially and I know it's like, stop
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Speaker 1: me if you've heard me before because we've talked about
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Speaker 1: the last game in Oakland last year, right, But now
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Speaker 1: I was for real this Um, the fans that I've
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Speaker 1: spoken with and that come out to the facility every
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Speaker 1: day for practice, still very much as energized as as
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Speaker 1: as you know, as you'll find it, you know what
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Speaker 1: will be interesting. And I love your take on this.
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Speaker 1: Raiders fans are spread far and wide. I mean I
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Speaker 1: thought for years that the Raiders. The league really needs
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Speaker 1: the Raiders to be a good team. They need that
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Speaker 1: bad boy group to roll into town no matter where
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Speaker 1: they are, and and so they've got to win in
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Speaker 1: order to be that. But you know, when the Steelers
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Speaker 1: left Three River Stadium and started playing in Hines Field,
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Speaker 1: things changed. I mean, they're still a very good team,
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, But you didn't it was hostile
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Speaker 1: to go into Three River Stadium. You felt the atmosphere, Um,
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Speaker 1: you feel it even when the Raiders aren't good because
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the black hole, because they turn out, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's the flamed al up in the corner
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Speaker 1: there that just reminds you of, you know, sort of
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Speaker 1: the the gravitas of that group. But they're going into
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Speaker 1: this billion dollar stadium in Vegas. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: you have a black hole, primarily because the people that
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Speaker 1: afford those expensive tickets aren't the kind of people that
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Speaker 1: sit in the cole. Let's be honest. I'm curious if
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Speaker 1: they'll still have that bad boy edge in Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've thought the same thing to myself, especially
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Speaker 1: you know, you talk about all of those game day elements,
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Speaker 1: and then there's there's a poem, right the autumn wind
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Speaker 1: is a radar and all of that that kind of
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Speaker 1: is anonymous, which was playing in Oakland and being there
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Speaker 1: and and as as as in shambles as that stadium is,
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Speaker 1: it still holds so much history. And every team that
18:27
Speaker 1: we interview ahead of a matchup with the Raiders, they
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Speaker 1: say we love playing there because it hips them up.
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Speaker 1: You know, that animosity from the crowd um gets some
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Speaker 1: high two. So it's almost, you know, it's part of
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Speaker 1: of sort of the doy of of having to go
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Speaker 1: up against that team. And I don't know that you
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Speaker 1: can replicate that at anywhere else, certainly not in Vegas.
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Speaker 1: So it's different. The atmosphere is different. It's sumpletely different city,
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Speaker 1: different dynamics. I'd be. I think the fans will still
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Speaker 1: come out because greater fans travel very well, as you know,
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Speaker 1: But I don't know that you'll get that exact same vibe.
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Speaker 1: I just don't think that can be recreative. No, And
19:05
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think it's the people in
19:07
Speaker 1: Denver would take you the same thing, leaving the old
19:09
Speaker 1: Mile High with that steel superstructure, and when the fans
19:12
Speaker 1: would get wild, that place would shake. Uh. It's it's
19:15
Speaker 1: it's not quite the same with these um these great,
19:18
Speaker 1: big palaces. But that just a thought. The Raiders have
19:21
Speaker 1: such a mystique, even though they haven't been winning, even
19:24
Speaker 1: though Al is gone, that mystique is important to the league.
19:28
Speaker 1: You could be sure the legal try to manufacture it
19:30
Speaker 1: one way or another. Definitely. I think they'll be certain
19:35
Speaker 1: aspects of it there and they'll put play tribute to
19:38
Speaker 1: that at um. Just being around these Raiders fans for
19:42
Speaker 1: a far more, far larger sample size than I had
19:46
Speaker 1: in the past the last two seasons, I know that
19:49
Speaker 1: they're they're going to bring that same energy wherever the
19:52
Speaker 1: Raiders are playing, and probably literal pieces of the black holes. Yeah,
19:57
Speaker 1: interesting to see how many seats get ripped up this week. Yes,
19:59
Speaker 1: we were well and to take cover just in case
20:02
Speaker 1: players will be told don't take your helmet off until
20:04
Speaker 1: you're in the tunnel. All right, and well, we for
20:07
Speaker 1: one are excited about the experience. Will we see you
20:09
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20:14
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20:18
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20:23
Speaker 1: Niners this week. Okay, we have to change because it
20:27
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20:30
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Speaker 1: with that. It's a special day, it really is. It's
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Speaker 1: Uh is the day I look forward to maybe the
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Speaker 1: most out of the year. Uh. Well, this is the
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Speaker 1: end Gingerbread House Dad, and he really sums up to Christmas.
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Speaker 1: talking about it for years. This is your day, all
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Speaker 1: kidding aside, When the day is over, we will have
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Speaker 1: can do with the gingerbread house is, uh, what's special?
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Speaker 1: So I was on that bay. I think he's doing
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Speaker 1: a gingerbread ring. He's doing a gingerbread shooting gallery. They're
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Speaker 1: very rare, very rare very rare very special, hence why
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Speaker 1: he is always the winner. All right, Tommy, please get
23:57
Speaker 1: us out of gingerbread talk. Hey zone. Last year, the
24:01
Speaker 1: old line was the problem due to injuries. This year
24:03
Speaker 1: they've been mostly healthy and still have struggled either way.
24:07
Speaker 1: The starting quarterback has suffered. For when will they be
24:10
Speaker 1: held accountable? Well, you look for ways to make the
24:12
Speaker 1: ozone entertaining, which you know I've been doing for eight years,
24:15
Speaker 1: so have then found it? Um Uh? I never know
24:20
Speaker 1: what accountable means, Brian. In the NFL, you're accountably because
24:25
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're accountable if you're bad because you're out
24:27
Speaker 1: of the league. Do you know do they want them
24:31
Speaker 1: held up for public ridicule? Do they want them Here's
24:35
Speaker 1: the thing, accountability. Everybody wants people pulled out of the
24:39
Speaker 1: line up in the NFL. Well, they start the player
24:43
Speaker 1: they think give them the best chance to win. So
24:45
Speaker 1: they're playing poorly and there's nobody behind them to play better. Uh.
24:49
Speaker 1: Accountability during the season, it really doesn't exist. If you're
24:53
Speaker 1: the best player, it's hard to pull you out. Now.
24:56
Speaker 1: Accountability will happen after the season, when they figure out
24:59
Speaker 1: where they want to go next. I think accountability, if
25:01
Speaker 1: there is a change, will be more than the past
25:04
Speaker 1: because nobody will be connected with these guys. But you know,
25:08
Speaker 1: I understand the question. It's just difficult for fans to
25:11
Speaker 1: get the accountability that they want because they want people fire,
25:14
Speaker 1: they want people out, they want people cut. Well, I say,
25:17
Speaker 1: you cut Andrew Norwell, well, by definition, you're replacing with
25:22
Speaker 1: somebody that you don't believe is as good. So it's
25:24
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to do, even though I understand how
25:27
Speaker 1: fans want it. So pull back the curtain for a minute, uh,
25:31
Speaker 1: and let folks see the raw inside of this building. Yesterday,
25:35
Speaker 1: I was sitting outside trying to get a little fresh air. Um,
25:39
Speaker 1: and I'm talking to a coach that I know well,
25:42
Speaker 1: and it's an awkward conversation because you can't talk. You're
25:48
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about the Raiders game because you're just
25:51
Speaker 1: not uh, you're not talking about Christmas, although we talked
25:54
Speaker 1: a little bit about it, You're not gonna talk about
25:56
Speaker 1: January and I gonna talk about, Hey, what do you
25:57
Speaker 1: do in the next spring. They know where they're gonna be.
25:59
Speaker 1: They are having to live with that right now, right
26:01
Speaker 1: these coaches, even though no one's I shouldn't say that.
26:04
Speaker 1: I don't know that for a fact. Um, But I
26:06
Speaker 1: doubt anyone's come down the hall and said, hey, you know,
26:08
Speaker 1: just planning being fired when this whole thing is over.
26:10
Speaker 1: In their minds, their coaches, they're they're their modern day
26:14
Speaker 1: nomads right here. Two years here, three years here, one
26:18
Speaker 1: year and then move on. They get it. Um, The
26:21
Speaker 1: accountability that Tommy seeks is coming, and the accountability is
26:26
Speaker 1: almost always the coaches. Now, I wonder if you think
26:31
Speaker 1: that someone should say, hey, you gotta be here at
26:33
Speaker 1: six am, and you gotta stay here till six pm.
26:36
Speaker 1: You gotta work twelve hours a day. They work longer
26:39
Speaker 1: than that. Some people think this is a nine to five.
26:42
Speaker 1: No way, this is a Monday through Sunday before the
26:46
Speaker 1: sun is up, after the sun is down. Miss soccer
26:49
Speaker 1: games and miss dinner with your family. Um, you want blood,
26:54
Speaker 1: but what you're you're getting is somebody else is their
26:59
Speaker 1: whole family. Lie. If it's disrupted by all of this,
27:01
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your accountability. They're gonna change things up.
27:05
Speaker 1: But the reality of it is is that the roster
27:07
Speaker 1: has to change. If you put a better roster in here.
27:11
Speaker 1: This coaching staff does a better job, right. They can
27:13
Speaker 1: only do so much right exactly. And you're thinking about
27:16
Speaker 1: Todd wash and John d. Philippo. I mean, you're thinking
27:18
Speaker 1: about the big names, the guys that draw all the attention.
27:21
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about John Donovan and his three kids, right,
27:24
Speaker 1: and what they have to do. I know because he's
27:26
Speaker 1: one of my neighbors. So I'm living it through them.
27:29
Speaker 1: When one of my kids says, well, is John Patrick
27:30
Speaker 1: gonna be on our football team next year? You go,
27:33
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, right, So hold off
27:37
Speaker 1: on the accountability just a little bit. It's coming. If
27:40
Speaker 1: you have to have it wrapped in a bow underneath
27:41
Speaker 1: your Christmas tree, then put off a picture of the
27:44
Speaker 1: Jaguars coaching staff and open it up and be thrilled
27:48
Speaker 1: that they're probably going to be gone, but accountability comes. Unfortunately,
27:52
Speaker 1: it doesn't always come to the players who deserve to
27:55
Speaker 1: be held accountable because their salary and their dead cap
27:58
Speaker 1: and all of that makes it strong. All right, let's
28:02
Speaker 1: go to Chris from Jacksonville. This is the second year
28:06
Speaker 1: in Rose that the jackson performed significantly worse in the
28:09
Speaker 1: second half the season than they did in the first half.
28:11
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on why this is, well, um, a couple
28:16
Speaker 1: or three. Probably one is that they're very different seasons.
28:22
Speaker 1: Last year, I honestly thought it was more because of injury,
28:26
Speaker 1: and then after injury there was the again reaffirmation that
28:31
Speaker 1: the quarterback play wasn't enough to hold up an injury team. Uh.
28:35
Speaker 1: This year it's been more, Um, you know, the run
28:40
Speaker 1: defense went south and week eight I continue to say
28:44
Speaker 1: it was a four and four team that looked like
28:47
Speaker 1: an average seven and nine to nine and seven normal
28:50
Speaker 1: bad team or uh normal bad to good break here
28:56
Speaker 1: their type team, and then Marcel Darius got hurt and
28:59
Speaker 1: it just sort of started sliding. Now, one reason a
29:04
Speaker 1: team slides in the second half, uh, that you could
29:08
Speaker 1: correlate both is depth. As as players have gotten hurt,
29:12
Speaker 1: this team has fallen off dramatically each season. Now, I
29:15
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody's depth last year could have withstood
29:18
Speaker 1: last year. But this year, when you dropped from Marcel
29:22
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden everything was gone inside, I
29:24
Speaker 1: think it did show lack of death. Doug. Doug Maron
29:28
Speaker 1: was concerned about it before the season. I discounted a
29:31
Speaker 1: little bit as coach speak. But it it has been,
29:34
Speaker 1: it has been. Then this is not a d proster, no,
29:36
Speaker 1: And I think that's the logical answer. I think another possibility,
29:40
Speaker 1: and you and I discussed this a lot during O
29:43
Speaker 1: T A S, and that is that this was not
29:45
Speaker 1: a mentally tough team that had handled adversity. When things
29:49
Speaker 1: went out, it went out, and some of the leaders
29:52
Speaker 1: on that team, the Jalen Ramsey's and Telvin Smith's who
29:55
Speaker 1: were no longer here, they weren't able to pull out
29:57
Speaker 1: of it last year and this year. It's primary the talent,
30:01
Speaker 1: but there's still a leadership void. They never replaced Pause,
30:03
Speaker 1: they never replaced Mercedes. They're not right you you have Kleis,
30:10
Speaker 1: and it's hard for just one guy at Leonard's trying.
30:13
Speaker 1: There are guys who are trying um and I think
30:16
Speaker 1: Leonard has led. I mean from he stood in that
30:19
Speaker 1: locker room last Sunday after that game. It was late
30:22
Speaker 1: in the evening. It was an embarrassing loss. He answered
30:25
Speaker 1: every question. Leonard for net doesn't do that. But there's
30:28
Speaker 1: not at each position group. They got tight End and
30:33
Speaker 1: this is probably bad example because it's it's the outlier.
30:36
Speaker 1: But tight End there's barely even a starter, much less
30:40
Speaker 1: a guy who people can look to and say what
30:42
Speaker 1: does he do when things go bad? And more than that,
30:45
Speaker 1: I use this analogy. When you're playing baseball or when
30:49
Speaker 1: you're playing sports as a kid, there's always that one
30:52
Speaker 1: or two guys in the team. If it's a good team.
30:54
Speaker 1: Then when they're walking off the bus, we had a
30:57
Speaker 1: chance to win because Gary's here, or we got a
30:59
Speaker 1: chance to win because John is here, Ted's here. They
31:03
Speaker 1: never said head about me, Well they please get back
31:06
Speaker 1: on the base on the bus. Yeah, it was a thing.
31:09
Speaker 1: But um so I think there's not that guy at
31:13
Speaker 1: each position. There's not enough of those guys. DJ Charcot
31:16
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you know. But he's a second year guy,
31:20
Speaker 1: and as good as he is, is he going to
31:22
Speaker 1: make that huge play for you every game? Yet I
31:25
Speaker 1: think maybe in his third or fourth year, he will
31:27
Speaker 1: second year emerging guy isn't often that guy. So that
31:31
Speaker 1: guy a little off track. But those kind of guys
31:34
Speaker 1: pull you out of season, out of late season slides
31:38
Speaker 1: because they make the huge play. There's not that guy.
31:40
Speaker 1: And just to finish my thought, because I have a
31:42
Speaker 1: good example, it's the Steelers right now. Look, primarily they're
31:45
Speaker 1: getting it done because their defense is incredibly talented and
31:48
Speaker 1: there get their finding ways on offense to make it happen.
31:52
Speaker 1: But the Steelers do what the Steelers do. The Steelers
31:56
Speaker 1: have a great deal of pride. The Steelers have mostly
32:00
Speaker 1: been a winning franchise right since nineteen two, okay almost
32:04
Speaker 1: fifty years because the people um in the locker room,
32:08
Speaker 1: the people in the coaching suite, the people in the
32:09
Speaker 1: front office do the same thing every way. There is
32:12
Speaker 1: a measure of pride to do things the Steeler way.
32:16
Speaker 1: They also know what they are, right, they know what
32:18
Speaker 1: they are and the Steeler way is something just like
32:21
Speaker 1: the Patriot way, you know, over the last twenty years
32:23
Speaker 1: has become something. Uh, this franchise needs to create a
32:27
Speaker 1: Jaguar way, a Jacksonville way, no matter who is sitting
32:31
Speaker 1: in control over there or who's in the locker room.
32:34
Speaker 1: It has to be established that this is the way
32:38
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars do do business on the field, off
32:41
Speaker 1: the field, in the community. Um, it's really, really, really
32:46
Speaker 1: important that they get that. And one of the things
32:48
Speaker 1: that I want to see in in the locker room
32:50
Speaker 1: in the future is we're mentally tough. We fight through adversity.
32:55
Speaker 1: We may not win because we don't have enough talented players,
32:58
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33:00
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33:04
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33:06
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33:08
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33:10
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33:13
Speaker 1: into Jacksonville. This is what they expect. Don't even sign
33:16
Speaker 1: the contract unless you can come through on that. It's
33:19
Speaker 1: a big, big two thought right now. But the people
33:24
Speaker 1: who are responsible for this franchise need to make those
33:27
Speaker 1: sorts of decisions and get started on that. All right,
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33:50
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33:54
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33:57
Speaker 1: for a friend though not him, a lineman, lineman, linement
34:01
Speaker 1: and h and that's I don't know they're be able
34:04
Speaker 1: to stick to that because there's out of needs. But
34:06
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34:09
Speaker 1: every round you've got to look at it and say,
34:11
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34:14
Speaker 1: in this right? You know? Is there a quarterback so
34:16
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34:19
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34:21
Speaker 1: do we get stouter up front? Well, I've been saying that, um,
34:25
Speaker 1: but I'll stick to my philosophy that is best player available.
34:29
Speaker 1: So if you're sitting at say seven, and the best
34:33
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34:36
Speaker 1: if the guy is really really good, will you take him.
34:39
Speaker 1: If the best player available as a wide receiver, well
34:41
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34:44
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34:47
Speaker 1: player available. But you, as we found out with Josh
34:50
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34:53
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34:56
Speaker 1: turn it around because of their choices on their offensive line.
35:00
Speaker 1: Give me the best offensive lineman with one of the
35:02
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35:05
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35:07
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35:12
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35:15
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35:19
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35:22
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35:29
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35:33
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35:36
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35:39
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35:42
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Speaker 1: number dramatically. Dramatically, Uh, Marcel Darius a j boy A
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Speaker 1: Calais camp bowlt Uh, Marquis leave. I mean you can
39:03
Speaker 1: get that number too, I don't know, two hundred or
39:06
Speaker 1: a hundred forty million. And and of course the cap
39:09
Speaker 1: is gonna go up. They've got money they're carrying over.
39:12
Speaker 1: They should start next year about eighteen million under the
39:15
Speaker 1: cap before they start releasing players. Uh. And by the
39:18
Speaker 1: time they release those players, they can get to seventy
39:20
Speaker 1: seventy five. And then if the cap goes up, maybe
39:22
Speaker 1: even more so. Finding room is no problem for this team. Uh.
39:26
Speaker 1: Johnny Zick and Dave Caldwell's staff over there have done
39:29
Speaker 1: a good job at creating opportunities to clean up the cap.
39:33
Speaker 1: Here's the bad news. You don't have a quarterback on
39:36
Speaker 1: there that you're going forward with saying it doesn't matter
39:38
Speaker 1: that he's our twenty million dollar a year guy. That's
39:41
Speaker 1: our guy. Right. Um, you look at the and they've
39:45
Speaker 1: got Jimmy Garoppolo at twenty eight million, and after last
39:48
Speaker 1: year people are saying, oh my god, they gave that
39:50
Speaker 1: guy twenty eight million. Well now you're looking at him
39:53
Speaker 1: going twenty millions to bargain. You got him. Um, you're
39:57
Speaker 1: going to release players who have been part of your
39:59
Speaker 1: core and not have a lot behind it. Right. You
40:06
Speaker 1: don't have a replacement for Clays Campbell, You don't have
40:08
Speaker 1: a replacement from Marcel Darius, You don't have a replacement
40:11
Speaker 1: for a j Boy. You you have a replacement for
40:15
Speaker 1: Marquise League. That's the problem here is that the roster
40:18
Speaker 1: is so thin. Yes, you can get under the cap easily,
40:21
Speaker 1: and field Gates didn't have time and what is it
40:23
Speaker 1: characters or whatever it is to be able to lay
40:27
Speaker 1: out each team's individual cap that they're not so far
40:30
Speaker 1: over the cap they can't get well under it, but
40:31
Speaker 1: they can't get well under it without letting go players
40:35
Speaker 1: that they've counted on. So yeah, I think that's the difference.
40:37
Speaker 1: I got that emails is this is this two thousand
40:40
Speaker 1: all over again. It's not because they haven't kicked everything
40:45
Speaker 1: out at nauseam. They can get back under. Will there
40:48
Speaker 1: be a couple of lean years, probably because you're gonna
40:51
Speaker 1: be You're gonna be trying to rebuild this thing. But
40:54
Speaker 1: it's not those lean years anymore. Aren't unusual. This is
40:59
Speaker 1: usually the psych in the NFL. You hit a point
41:02
Speaker 1: where you where you slide and you get out of it.
41:04
Speaker 1: It's just this slide has been so bad. I think
41:05
Speaker 1: people think it's worse than it is. The No one's
41:08
Speaker 1: gonna going to go, oh, he's right here, but I
41:10
Speaker 1: am if Gardner Minshew right turns out to be someone
41:14
Speaker 1: that a new coach can develop, right, thanks, I got that,
41:18
Speaker 1: and I don't know that he is. Or and here's
41:19
Speaker 1: where people are gonna go, are you crazy? Or if
41:21
Speaker 1: someone rehabilitates Nick fools if this was Look, they didn't
41:24
Speaker 1: sign Nick Foles and say what, we hope he's good.
41:27
Speaker 1: He had proven over two years that he was a
41:29
Speaker 1: good player. Did they overpay? For sure? But we overpay
41:32
Speaker 1: in this liek. That's what you do in free agency.
41:34
Speaker 1: If someone can say, now, look, I can build around it.
41:36
Speaker 1: Was Mr Khan and he's on your cap for a
41:38
Speaker 1: couple more years. Well, then you accelerate the rebuilding, you know.
41:42
Speaker 1: I was reading the article that many people probably have
41:44
Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy, uh Dan Pelliston a right that um
41:49
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com and one of the comments that
41:51
Speaker 1: he made was wherever I go and he's going to
41:54
Speaker 1: go to a place where they fire a coach because
41:57
Speaker 1: the team isn't very good. I don't believe in a
41:59
Speaker 1: total tier down rebuild. I'm going to take what's there
42:02
Speaker 1: and build around it. Well, so you are allowed to say,
42:05
Speaker 1: how do we make Nick Foles or Gardner Minshew work?
42:09
Speaker 1: How do we create an offense around them that works?
42:11
Speaker 1: Fresh set of eyes, Maybe they can get that done.
42:13
Speaker 1: The cap situation is not dire in terms of the money.
42:17
Speaker 1: It's dire in terms of the talent. When you have
42:19
Speaker 1: a heavy cap, generally that you hope that you have
42:23
Speaker 1: a lot of talent and you have to find ways
42:25
Speaker 1: to pay it so you're not one quick thing on
42:27
Speaker 1: the cap um. If they want, they'll create enough money
42:31
Speaker 1: to find a way to pay Unique and Gockway because
42:34
Speaker 1: they're not paying Jalen Ramsey and and Gockway is a
42:38
Speaker 1: guy that you'd like to keep, although I don't know
42:41
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to reach an agreement
42:42
Speaker 1: on a number because his number is astronomical and their
42:46
Speaker 1: number is somewhat south of astronomical. Yes, have you just ridiculous?
42:49
Speaker 1: Have a feeling that will be a off season conversation.
42:53
Speaker 1: Let's go to Michael D. Rock with ESPN, who recaps
42:57
Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen Jags for agency class. When it's
43:01
Speaker 1: all laid out like this, it's pretty eye opening because
43:03
Speaker 1: four of the seven of the free agent class are
43:07
Speaker 1: currently on I R. You can make the argument A. J.
43:09
Speaker 1: Cann and Chris Connolly might be the only positives on
43:12
Speaker 1: that list. Yeah, it is, and it's uh, it's really
43:16
Speaker 1: Fold and everybody else. It was a Foals free agency class. Uh,
43:19
Speaker 1: O'Shaughnessy and Ken. Yes they are free agents, they re signed. Uh,
43:23
Speaker 1: you've got six players who realistically they did not sign
43:28
Speaker 1: those six players with the idea that it was going
43:31
Speaker 1: to be buried church a J. Boyer impact. This was
43:34
Speaker 1: a Nick Foles second tier class. Nick nick Foles prime
43:40
Speaker 1: and then second tier class. But the way Folds has played,
43:42
Speaker 1: the way that's worked out, it can't be anything but disappointing.
43:45
Speaker 1: Uh So, I don't think it's the worst free agent
43:48
Speaker 1: class in history, I mean his team's history, because I
43:51
Speaker 1: don't think that they thought the other six we're gonna
43:54
Speaker 1: be major impact. They were whole fillers. A couple of
43:56
Speaker 1: quick thoughts stone Cold put that back up. The first
44:00
Speaker 1: is it really puts into your please, I'm sorry, um,
44:03
Speaker 1: although I don't think I've ever heard Reaber ever say please?
44:06
Speaker 1: Um do it? So he really is a nice kid, guys, Um,
44:12
Speaker 1: we paid him to be a monster, So you're you
44:16
Speaker 1: said it right. It was fulls. There were no expectations
44:18
Speaker 1: for everyone else. You know, they had hoped to get
44:20
Speaker 1: more from Jake Ryan than they got, but it didn't
44:23
Speaker 1: work out that way. But you didn't sign Nag good
44:25
Speaker 1: thinking man, we gotta get a lot, or Chris Connolly
44:27
Speaker 1: or Jeff Swain. This was on fools. So it puts
44:30
Speaker 1: into perspective just how good seventeen was. So this is
44:33
Speaker 1: what you get in free agency. You overspend and then
44:36
Speaker 1: generally they under deliver for what you're spending the money on.
44:41
Speaker 1: And so what it made seventeen such an outlier in
44:43
Speaker 1: terms of the free agent class, an entire outlier. Folds
44:47
Speaker 1: is the one that drives the class, and so yeah,
44:51
Speaker 1: it's it's a failure. But if you figure you're going
44:54
Speaker 1: to build your team in free agency, you're figuring to
44:57
Speaker 1: be where the Jaguars are got to do with through
45:00
Speaker 1: the draft. And the good news here is the Dragon
45:02
Speaker 1: Wars have four first dround picks in the next two years.
45:04
Speaker 1: It's a good position to begin. Have to change it,
45:06
Speaker 1: that's for sure. All right, Now, let's end it with
45:08
Speaker 1: a positive, shall we? Ten ten XL tweets out this stat,
45:13
Speaker 1: but Leonard Fournett has more catches this season than Julio Jones,
45:17
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Alvin Kamara and lady On Bell. I
45:22
Speaker 1: didn't know about the first two. That's pretty eye opening,
45:25
Speaker 1: seeing how those two are superstar players. Yeah, it is.
45:28
Speaker 1: It's it's fantastic for Leonard. I don't know that it
45:31
Speaker 1: speaks that great to the offense because you're checking down
45:34
Speaker 1: a lot, but it's again, it shows you Leonard Fournette
45:38
Speaker 1: has been uh so key and so good for them,
45:42
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, I think so much better
45:44
Speaker 1: than expected. But it's not a great stat for the
45:47
Speaker 1: offense because you don't want him catching the ball that much.
45:50
Speaker 1: If you don't go back to New Orleans and do
45:52
Speaker 1: the follow up with Leonard, I will because it is
45:56
Speaker 1: it's the Obviously, the story of this season is whatever
45:59
Speaker 1: happens at the end of you. But the other story
46:02
Speaker 1: of the season is Leonard for nad and I intend
46:04
Speaker 1: to say this to him when the season is over. Um,
46:07
Speaker 1: where he was to where he is is a massive transformation,
46:11
Speaker 1: and star players aren't always willing to subjugate their ego
46:16
Speaker 1: and invest in that kind of work because they've always
46:19
Speaker 1: been star players. For a boy from the seventh ward,
46:22
Speaker 1: as he said, who didn't like cold weather when we
46:24
Speaker 1: were getting ready to go to Pittsburgh for the playoff
46:26
Speaker 1: game two years ago, to invest in a month in Wyoming.
46:30
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in Wyoming in February.
46:33
Speaker 1: It is cold, it is windy, beyond anything he had
46:36
Speaker 1: ever imagined. And then to come in with again, the
46:39
Speaker 1: ego has not been there. He has been phenomenal, um,
46:43
Speaker 1: and he should have had a better season, and yet
46:45
Speaker 1: this offense is a real reason why now he's a
46:48
Speaker 1: part of that. I get that argument. Um, but they
46:51
Speaker 1: didn't run with him in London. They didn't run with
46:53
Speaker 1: him enough. Uh, in Indianapolis games got away from them.
46:57
Speaker 1: They couldn't stick with it, and and they did throw
47:00
Speaker 1: it to him. John, there were always guys running to
47:02
Speaker 1: him because he was the main threat. Well, you're playing
47:05
Speaker 1: back and the teams are keeping everything in front of him,
47:09
Speaker 1: and they know that throwing the ball Leonard for net
47:12
Speaker 1: short is not going to beat them. We didn't know
47:13
Speaker 1: if it was going to be worth it when when
47:16
Speaker 1: everything ended last year. For him to be here this
47:19
Speaker 1: year and now I fully expect him to be there
47:20
Speaker 1: here the next two years. Not questioning it now, all right,
47:23
Speaker 1: And that is our show. Jaguars Drive Time Wednesday morning,
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Press conferences this afternoon. Doug Marrone Gardner Mitshew
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