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Hello, Hello, good evening everybody. I'll welcome to another edition of US
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Sports Exchange. Is following Pundits Pundit. We have ourselves a stacked show.
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You're gonna have a lot of information. If bother you bother to listen and
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watch this twice, I'll give you a lot of reasons why you should,
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because this show is loaded. Okay, So with that said, let me
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introduce the crew real quick. To my left, Candy Aveling, welcome back
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and thanks good to be here. To my right, and send I'm the
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monkey in the middle. Anyways, I got Jeremy b and Jacob Christener was
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keeping a low profile in Atlanta. So when I can see him even a
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little bit more than it'll be good. Otherwise he's going to be keeping himself
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a little profile. How you doing, Jacob Man? Not bad? Great
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pundits Pundit tonight, Great punt is Pundy, Miss you jab. I wanted
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to see who you have you on? That was a great show. Yeah,
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hit some interesting topics for sure, then again, we do for some
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reason these topics are a little bit more interesting than most. Okay, but
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I won't elaborate on that. And jb ellis my partner in crime, as
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with the two heads of both of our networks. Welcome back, JB.
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What's going on? How we do it tonight? All right, well,
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folks, I want you to go out there and realize that rapid fire is
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the name of this game. I have a lawful lot of topics and we
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have about fifty some minutes to do it. But we're gonna do it.
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I want to make sure that everybody's ready for the NFL Draft and reasons beyond
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I'll ever understand. So let's get this bad boy started. So we're gonna
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lead off though with the sports town of the Week on a scale of one
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to ten. Okay, smoking, Jeremy, go ahead and tell me where
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you think Charlotte stand. And are you talking about the Panthers. No,
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I'm talking about the sports towne of the week Charlotte, North Carolina. Oh,
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Charlotte, North Carolina. I'm gonna have to give it about a six.
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Okay, why they really? They don't it's just weird. I don't
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see it big like some of the other cities. They have multiple sports.
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I mean, the Hornets are the Hornets, right exactly. Then you have
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the Panthers, and then you have the Charlotte Knights. Of course, when
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I had Rick Curry on last night, he gave it a nine, but
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I wouldn't have expected anything else anyway. So, Candy, what are your
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thoughts about Charlotte, North Carolina one to ten. I'd say probably about a
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seven and a half. I mean, I think a lot of people are
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transplants that go to Charlotte, So I don't know that there's a lot of
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true actual Charlotte fans in Charlotte. I think they can support, yes,
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but do I think they're actually fans of the you know, the Charlotte teams.
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I'm not quite convinced. Well, having lived there, you're right,
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so I won't debate that. I'll actually give it a seven to seven and
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a half two over No, Jacob, who's four hours away from their Charlotte
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one through town, what do you think seven and a half eight? You
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go to Charlotte to a boid Atlanta traffic. But No, the biggest issue
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that we have with Charlotte, I mean it's not really the big thing.
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It's the fact that you gotta wait for them together when they're really good.
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When these teams are really good, everything is kind of like the eighty five
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Bears. You put all the banners up, you put everything up. But
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the thing is unlike the Bears when they I mean when things are going poorly
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like they were three and fourteen last year, when things are really poor,
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then they still have a bank at least a banner of adjustin fields or whoever
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they would want up. They still support Charlotte will put it down. So
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it's like I would say seven and a half eight because they really fill the
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stadiums. But I can't say because they do not. They don't support enough
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when the things go bad. Okay, and last one, not least J
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b ellis eight and a half. You have, I mean figuring about the
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hornets of the Panthers. What about NASCAR? We forgot about that. The
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headquarters college basketball, I mean you have Duke Kid North Carolina right there.
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You know you have always the ATMAA tournament. They're eight and a half.
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Easy. Okay, all right, let's segue to the next topic, which
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happens to be in Carolina. So we're gonna talk about the NFL draft again
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around the horn answers concise, but make sure you get your points out.
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What should the Carolina Panthers coach by Frank Ryan two with the number one pick
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in the draft, you think they should go to the quarterback Jeremy Yes,
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And the rumor is they're thinking about taking Will Lebbis over Bryce Young. Okay,
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KB definitely a quarterback. But what I would do, I would go
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after Lamar. Everybody should go with at the Lamar. I don't get it.
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That's why I thought, all right, Jacob, absolute agreement with that.
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It's like, if you're gonna go get anyone, I'm gonna go Bryce
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Young. I mean me and myself as far as Will Levis. Everybody's seeing
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me on social media with it, Will Levison, Anthony Richardson. They are
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the product of ridiculously awesome agents that somehow pop them out there, and they
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know how to use social media to pop there, to pop everything up,
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and so it's like there's nothing to them that's ever gonna make him that good
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to begin with. So I mean to be Bryce Young, or let's just
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go with Lamar Jackson. So are you saying Lamar and Jackson? I'm gonna
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say it Lamar, I mean Bryce Young if you're going draft, but if
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nothing else, go for Lamar, go after it, because I want Lamar
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in Chicago myself. Anyways, I want everybody to go after you, okay,
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But meanwhile, collegiately, you're saying Bryce Young, right, yes,
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yes, okay, good enough, candy Ce Stroud, okay, quarterback mister
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eighteen, okay, all right, and I'll just say Bryce Young. I
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really believe that they should go after him. I don't think that Bryce Young's
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the type of quarterback that Frank Reich is used to. Is used so much
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taller target, which is why I probably believe that what Jeremy is actually saying
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might have more truth Will Levis because he's a lot bigger as well. So
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I'm gonna go Bryce, all right. Next topic, we're gonna go rapid
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fire, okay, to the Houston Houston Texans, take a quarterback at number
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two, or go save with a foundational defensive player. Jeremy rumor is the
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Patriots are trying to trade up to two and give them Mac Jones and swap
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first round picks. That's the rumor that was busted out on the Back McAfee
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show today. Of course, it was all right, well say here,
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it's okay, because jam Ellis might have one even better than you here at
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the question. Yeah, don't don't do anything with mac Jones. Take a
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quarterback Anthony richards So that's who you would. He's gonna be the guy you're
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not want of this year. He's the guy for the future. If that's
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the guy you would. Okay, all right, now you can go through
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your old routine, Jacob oh mac Jones. If you want to see just
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how bad he is, get him away from the get away from Bill Belichick,
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if you really want to see how bad he is, because he was
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un a leashed the whole time. But myself, I'm gonna I'm telling you
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this, I'm gonna I'm gonna go a little different from a lot of people.
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I'm gonna say, go with an offensive guy to take Davis Mills one
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more year and have yours and then go for a quarterback next year. Because
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by itself, I'm not fine. I'm not fund to Will Elvis or Anthony
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Richardson. I'm really not. And it's gonna be And by the way,
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the guests, who's gonna be taken? You get my point? I mean,
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Bryce Young gonna be taken, and all the other guys gonna be taken.
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It's to Carolina. So i'd rather just negatively go offensive line, try
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to get better there, and then to go for a quarterback next year.
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Candy well Keegan says it for me. I think they're gonna go defense because
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I think they're going to go out and get Trey Lance. That's interesting.
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All right. I'll tell you what. If you're Houston Texans, go defense.
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I don't think there's a quarterback worth taking in number two. I really
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know, unless Bryce Young falls in your lap, I say you go defense.
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That the Texans have been in this situation before where I believe they've taken
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a defensive player as a foundational player. Hide and who or two? All
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right? Give me the answers J. J. Watt and J. Davey
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and Clowney. There you go. So there's nothing like there isn't a history
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of them taking defensive players at the top spot. So yeah, if I
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were the Texans, I go ahead and go defense. All right? As
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we continue on here, boy, this is a lot of fun. I
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guarantee you folks, you will learn a lot. So take notes enough.
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You don't take notes quick enough? Listen again, who cares? We're getting
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you ready for the Mira That okay? With that said, according to Sports
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Illustrated the past ten years. Okay, we'll talk about the biggest rap bus.
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So in this part of the show here, okay, I'm going to
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read every one of them off and everyone. You could go ahead and just
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pick one, okay, And I'm gonna go over the years from twenty fourteen
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all the way to twenty twenty one. So pay attention. We're going rapid
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fire. In twenty fourteen, Cleveland with the number twenty two pick took Johnny
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Manzel twenty fifteen, Tampa at the number one pick, Jameis Winston twenty fifteen,
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Tennessee number two, Marcus Mariota twenty sixteen, Philly number two, Carson
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Wentz twenty seventeen. This is probably is painful for you to Jacob Chicago number
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two. Okay. We actually one ball games, all right, It's okay,
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let me finish. Twenty eighteen New York Jets number three, Sam Darnold
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twenty twenty one, New York Jets. Okay, he has Zach Wilson,
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although he could be salvage with Aaron Rodgers edition. Okay. And then twenty
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twenty one San Francisco forty nine Ers number three, Trey Lance Okay, we'll
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continue around the way I've been doing all day. Give you one choice,
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Jeremy Bee, which one are you going with? What was that first one
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in twenty fourteen? Johnny Menzel. Yeah, that's it. That is it
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for me, out of that list, because Trey Lanz hasn't even played two
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years of ball, let alone a year. Okay, all right, next
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JB Johnny Benzel, but Johnny Boxing of the NFL. Yeah, okay,
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Jacob, I'm gonna give you a name that's not on the list. Kevin
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White for the Bears. You brought up Trubisky, But Trubisky one over a
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little over sixty percent of his game. Let's talk about the actual Okay,
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well, we'll say Manzel. But I was bringing up White because he was
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he was a number seven for the Bears, and yet he had two of
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his biggest games came off of one catch for hail Mary both times. Okay,
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so he was a he was oft injured, So to me, that's
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the biggest bomb. Fair enough, Candy, Johnny Manzel. Yeah, you
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know, And I'm going to Johnny Manziel to talk about a big bust and
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runaways and they didn't even one him in Canada. Go figure that and my
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other country, yes, well Canada. All right, I had to get
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that out. I got an on pundits fundet, so I got it here
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too. All right, as we continue on, this is actually a pretty
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interesting one here NFL and NFL legacy. Who was the greatest undrafted player in
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NFL history? I love this list? Okay, same format. Kurt Warner,
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the Rams, Justin Tucker, the Ravens, John Randall of the Vikings,
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Warren Moon of the Houston Oilers, James Harrison of the Steel, Tony
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Romo of the Cowboys, Antonio gate So the Chargers, and In Minitary of
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the Patriots Slash Colds. All right, Jeremy, Wow, that's a tough
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list, you kind of man. It's either got to be Vinitary or the
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very first one. You mentioned Warner just because of what he did in that
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season when he was begging groceries a year before. All right, you're going
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Warner, jv Ellis Warren Moon? Was there a better quarterback during his hour
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of the Warren mood? Okay, okay, I love Warren Moon. But
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it's like I love Warren Moon and that's absolute and that's a complete truth.
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But how many pet I mean Warner at ten years and he gets to three
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Super Bowls. That's thirty percent of your career. And he was into the
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playoffs six different times, so that's sixty percent of your career. Now,
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such a short time for his thing, even with injuries and even with bombing
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out again, and he still came back. So I'm gonna go Warner,
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but I do love Warren Moon. Okay, fair enough, Candy Kurt Warner.
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Okay, you know what. I'm gonna go Warren Moon. But I'm
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gonna get Brandon Powell honorable mention out of Deerfield Beach High School here in my
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neck of the woods. Obviously landed a job with the Lions, and he
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subsequently reunited with Matt Stafford in Los Angeles, and during when they were doing
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zoom calls for that Super Bowl, I had a chance to talk to the
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brand man, and I also talked to him when he was put with the
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Lions against the Dolphins. So I'm gonna go Warren Moon as well, but
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Brandon Paul gets honorable mention. Now this is just a fact, so nobody
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has to answer it. It's just a piece of information. According to the
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thirty thirteen Notable non first round picks from the twenty thirteen ten years ago.
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And when I say non first round picks, this is really mainly geared toward
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Friday and Saturday. So this is why you want to watch it. In
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round two, Zach Kertz thirty five, you have Darius Slay thirty six,
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Geno Smith thirty nine, Robert Woods forty one. Again, mind you,
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this is from the twenty thirteen draft, and then Leveon Bell at forty eight.
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Let's go over to round three. Travis Kelsey sixty three overall, Tyron
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Matthew sixty nine, Tarin Armstead at seventy five, Keenan Allen at seventy six,
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Logan Ryan at eighty three. Let's go to rounds four and seven.
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Candy ought to be familiar with this one. David bot Tire round four one
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oh nine. Kyle just says Justice Zech Okay, great job there with that
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name. Figure that out, But Kyle, we'll call him kJ Round four
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one thirty, round five, Michael Hyde another one Candy should be familiar with
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one fifty nine, round six, Ryan Jensen two oh three, and round
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seven Jordan Player two eighteen. So if you're looking for a reason to watch
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the draft. Okay, I'm day and Saturday. I gave you plenty of
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them there, So let's go on to the next one. Okay, according
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to the thirty thirteen the last ten number two overall picks. Now, this
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is a very interesting list. I'm going to ask everybody to go out there
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and talk about these. In twenty thirteen, you had Luke Jakal. Then
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you had twenty fourteen Greg Robinson, Marcus Mariota, Carson Wentz in twenty sixteen
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QB obviously. Twenty seventeen we have Mitchell Traubisky, twenty eighteen st. Juan
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Barkley, twenty nineteen, Nick Boza the defensive end, twenty twenty, Chase
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Young who's not going to have his fifth year option renewed, twenty twenty one,
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Zach Wilson, and twenty twenty two we have Eighten Hutchinson. All right,
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So of that group, Jeremy, give me the best one. Wow
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for me? If Aiden Hutchinson, I'm sorry, I'll be sorry. Okay,
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JB kind of elevated Hutchinson. Yeah, I love one of the Aiden
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Hutchinson, but we've missed one. As far as the seventh rounder, dead
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last brought party he said second pick overall, right, I'm talking about seventh
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says fourth and seventh round, second pick overall too. I mean you know
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the list. You want to gold Room again? Oh no, no,
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we could get it. I would just say I heard fourth and seventh round,
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and I thought, was that was that was a prior segment. Oh
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okay, okay, that's cool. He's rapid firing at Jacob, come on,
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round firing something you're not used to saying. Okay, right, right,
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right, But Aiden Hutchinson, we'll go with that. Candy. Aiden,
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I think has been the most influential and made the most impact I think
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out of all of them to the team that he went to. Yeah,
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I got go aid Hudginson. I thought when the jackson Ville Jaguars got the
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number one pick, they were gonna go ahead and pick the guy, And
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all of a sudden, they obviously like Trey Von Walker and the Lions got
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Aidan Hutchinson and the Lions people couldn't get to the podium fast enough, much
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to the dismay of the NFL, because they got it up there so fast.
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So it's pretty clear cut for me, Aden Hutchinson. I think if
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you were looking for honorable mention in this list, if there is such a
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thing there, yeah, Nick Bosa. But other than that, the rest
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of the group is no boss. We're not at other boasis, right yeah,
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but I'm going Aden Hutchinson. All right, now, this should be
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a little bit easier for everybody. Okay. The top ten quarterbacks taken in
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the first round. Okay, I've got ten of them. Patrick Mahomes number
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ten of Kansas City, number two, Aaron Rodgers number twenty four to Green
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Bay, Ben Roethlisforg number eleven Pittsburgh, Eli Manning. Well that's an interesting
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one. Four dash five chargers Giants. Okay, Well he forced his way
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out of that and going the other way, Philip Rivers five dash four chargers
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Giants Chargers. Now we have old Cam New number one of Carolina, Matthew
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Stafford number one of the Lions, Matt Ryan number three of Atlanta, Lamar
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Jackson number thirty two of Baltimore, and Josh Allen number seven Buffalo. All
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right, well we'll do it again, and this time, since we're doing
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well on time, you can elaborate on this one, everybody, So all
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right, Jeremy. Three Super Bowls attended to one it's gotta be pat Mahomes.
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Yep, Okay, JB. Biggest steel, I'm not gonna I'm not
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gonna go with the best. Obviously, Mahomes with the biggest steel. The
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Ravens get a Lamar Jackson. I'll never forget the trade I was driving.
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The Giants had the number two pick in the next round. I hope will
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struggle off the highway because I said, oh, we're finally going to get
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the quarterback to a place ELI and then the Patriots did the unthinkable. It
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screwed the Giants. But don't worry. We have the upper head be to
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give a two super Bowls? Who are you going with? Lamar Jackson?
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Okay, Jacob, I gotta go with Mahomes. I mean, the thing
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is, I love the two Super Bowls by Eli, but those were the
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big moments, clutched moments by the by himself. He just hasn't had a
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He hasn't had the same consistency that Mahomes has had in the first place.
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So I'm gonna go Mahomes, no question. Candy, you guys are gonna
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you guys could probably guess who I'm gonna say, even though he's just traded
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but he has how many MVPs and he's doing the league how long? And
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he was the twenty fourth pick. He was not the first pick of the
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draft. He was not the tenth pick of the draft. He was the
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twenty fourth. I think he's made the big I mean, Mahomes obviously has
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had great success. Don't get me wrong, Lamar Jackson too, But I
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think Rogers has changed a lot on the team for the Packers. And I
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know he's switching to the Jets. We'll see how well he does with the
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Jets. All right, last, but not least me, Well, you
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know what, I gotta go Patrick Mahomes, But I gotta give a little
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bit of love to Matthew Stafford who took the beating that he did in Detroit
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and still got him into the playoffs a few times. And when he did
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finally get to a place he could win, he finally got his one super
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Bowl. And the Lions are going to probably make out because of that,
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because the worth their draft situation is knowing that, you know, they police
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Rams for a few picks, got a suitable quarterback and Jared Goff as well.
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So I like Jared Goff. He seems to have done well for the
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Lions, and of course you're adding some draft capito. So yeah, I'll
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definitely go Mahomes, but I'm going to give Matthew Stafford a little love for
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honorable mention. It's only honorable mention, all right. Well, as we
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continue to go on, that's not just a fact. But you know what,
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I'm going to let everybody comment on this. One the most seasons with
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a team by a quarterback in NFL history. We all know about Tom Brady
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twenty in New England before he joined Tampa. Ben Roethlisberg eight team with the
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Pittsburgh Steelers. They never left. Aaron Rodgers eighteen with Green May that now
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he's with the Jets. And Jim Hart there's the name. I don't know
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how many you remember eighteen with the Saint Louis Cardinals and he ended up going
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to Washington Redskins. So any comments on any of these, jeremy, good
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for their longevity, Great for their teams because that means that's one less thing
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they had to worry about. But uh, you know, Ben probably should
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have hung it up after year sixteen. Okay, just my opinion. Oh
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that's time, JB. Different time, different contract, structures was easy to
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be a long time quarterback back then you did have the salary caps like you
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have now now if you look at teams that make it, the rookie salary
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cap as the key. So you know it's not to save. You're not
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going to get a guy that'll stick around as long that doesn't give back,
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buddy, like a Tom Brady Jacob giving me the Jim Hart memories dad used
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to. My dad used to talking about as we lived in two hours from
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Saint Louis, south central Illinois, and so he actually met Jim ray Hart
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Jim Hart once or twice. So it's kind of fun to get that name.
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But we're never gonna see that. Jabe's right, We're never gonna see
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this again because if college players are I mean, if we're hearing five of
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them a day going through the transfer portal, why did the world would pro
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Seaton stay you know for and why would they? So we're not going to
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see that ever again. And it's like we're literally talking about the possibility of
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Lamar Jackson game you traded. Maybe we're talking about that which would have been
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unheard of even two years ago. So it's so, I mean, the
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congratulations to the longevity never again. I agree, all right, Candy,
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you don't see longevity and coaches anymore except for Mike Tomlin. So you're not
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gonna see it in the quarterbacks because I think a lot of them stick with
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coaches that they like. That's one of the reasons why Rogers is real happy
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to be back with Nathaniel Hackett. Granted heat Nathaniel stunk it up in Denver.
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It as an offensive coach. He you know, he jelled with with
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Rogers. I think you won't see the longevity because because of the money,
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they're all out, you know. And this is I've said this on how
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many different shows. We've become a me, me me society, and you
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want to get paid now as much as you can. Because you don't,
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you're not guaranteed tomorrow. You can get hurt very easily. So all right.
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The one guy that intrigues me on this list probably is Tom Brady more
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than any number one. You talk about another guy who you're going to look
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watch with the second or third craft, everybody's gonna look from now one at
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six ninety nine, because Tom Brady is definitely going to be thought of every
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time they talk about it, But think about Tom Brady plays twenty years in
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New England leaves Bill Belichick is nothing more than just a mediocre coach. So
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who needed who more? Well, let's talk about eating humble pipe, Bill
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Belichick. Okay, you are because Tom Brady got another super Bowl and you're
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in disarray and a mediocre, mediocre coach. So the guy that stands out
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to me on this list happens to be Tom Brady. Now, what I
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want to do is backtrack a little bit because when we look at draft position,
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okay, and we talk about the biggest draft bus, a lot of
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them came from the number two spot. So for a lot of you folks
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that are looking at tomorrow's draft, you're gonna wonder about the number two spot,
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and then you have to kind of wonder. And in each of these
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cases, we were looking at quarterbacks taken in that spot. So who wants
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to be on the hot seat? Okay and take a quarterback at number two.
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The history is not favorable for the number two selection at the quarterback position.
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And if you want to know a great example of that, let's go
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back to Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. Oh nelly. All right, So
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Jeremy, what I want you to do is comment not only in the number
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two situation, but think about let's go back in time about Ryan Leaf and
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Peyton Manning. Well, I talk about a draft bus that was the guy.
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Mel Kiper said that Ryan Leaf was smarter than Peyton Manning by leaps and
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bounds, and had a better arm and better mechanics. He said all sorts
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of glowing things about him, and mel Kiper looks like that hair helmet is
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more than a hair helmet. It wasn't his brain, that's for sure.
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No, Well, Bill poliand One once said it was a tough decision,
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but he's glad that he went ahead. Read through Ryan Leaving got Peyton Manning.
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Because you make a decision between those two, Oh that gets you.
25:32
You lose a job there, So go ahead. But who's to say if
25:37
it was reverse the same thing with his brother, if the Giants would have
25:41
got Rivers, who's to say it didn't work out better? You don't know,
25:44
you know, there's a lot of pressure our Iya Leaf. He just
25:45
didn't handle it well. But maybe you know how he got to Indianapolis,
25:48
maybe his career would be different. It's a different city, different surrounding.
25:52
So who knows. That's the great thing about the draft. We have no
25:56
idea, you know, things would have broken differently how they would have been.
26:00
Absolutely yeah. But in Ryan Lee's case, he was in San Diego.
26:03
It's not like I gonna butcher. You're like they are in New York.
26:07
But also being at San Diego, you're so relaxed. You know,
26:10
maybe being in the Midwest there would have been a different story. Colder weather
26:14
can't enjoy life as much, you know, think about it. If you're
26:18
gonna enjoy yourself eighty degrees in Sonny every day compared to December in Indianapolis,
26:23
where are you gonna enjoy yourself for? You're not getting a San Diego argument
26:29
out of me. Lojoya is the greatest my friends, So maybe it changes
26:33
his you know, it's the whole complexion of his career. No, I
26:37
know it worth putting out there. What about you, Jacob oh. Elitist
26:42
media will always say something like that, especially with mel kiper And because he
26:48
had a southern, thick Southern accent from Mississippi, and they're saying, oh,
26:52
they're dumb, oh the Southern accent. It's like it because they're around
26:56
New York all the time. They're album the Los Angeles all the time.
26:59
They gets a flyover state, but they don't give a chance to talk because
27:03
they hear the the that's lying that. Hey, Southern, you know,
27:07
that's exactly what the Peyton Manning sounds like. But Peyton may give him a
27:11
minute. He's one of the smartest guys you'll ever meet in your life.
27:14
And that's that's where this whole thing came about, is because of media that
27:18
will blast on Midwesterners and Southerners. All right, so they went after that,
27:23
and guess what, Peyton Manning's way smarter than Brian Leaf. It wasn't
27:26
even close. What's your take on all this, Candy, I remember one
27:32
of the biggest number two draft busts in Packer's history is Tony Mandrich. Oh
27:41
that was horrible. That was horrible. Let me go ahead and say a
27:45
special hello to Jennifer Lee Cobb. Okay, Jen and I are going to
27:49
be doing some stuff. She appeared a little bit on last night's show with
27:53
her rightful comments and her and I talk today. We're gonna be working on
27:57
some projects. So Jen, and for being on here tonight. You know
28:00
you always get my wheels certainly when we started talking on the phone and coming
28:04
up with ideas. But so Jen, we're looking forward to seeing new more
28:11
and you're gonna get an earful when we keep talking. They keep making plans
28:12
to do some great on air work together. So all right, go back
28:17
to Tony Manerich. I want to asked him a question that an old journalist
28:21
in the right in mine would have and the fact that he went out there
28:25
and followed Barry Sanders, and when I talked him about being compared to Sanders,
28:29
they didn't quite like me in that locker room, and I leaned on
28:33
Freddie Scott instead to get me out of trouble. So but yeah, Tony
28:37
Mandrich is definitely a bad pick in number two and the Lions got the benefit
28:41
out of that. So yeah, you know, but when you again,
28:45
like you say, it's a crapshoot. I've covered a lot of drafts I've
28:48
covered with the Miami Dolphins. I've gone ahead and covered them for the Jacksonville
28:52
Jaguars at a ton of them with Detroit Lions, and I gotta tell you
28:56
they feed you pretty good, that's for sure. And the Lions sped me
29:00
better than anybody, but that I could afford to go ahead and eat it.
29:03
Now it's a little bit different. So are one other interesting thing I
29:07
want to talk about and now, Candy, what I'm gonna want you to
29:08
do is, after I get done with us, let everybody know that they
29:11
can find us, and we're going to go through the chat room and evaluate
29:15
everybody's comments all before it I go to this final topic. I want to
29:19
let everybody know that anytime you come in the chat room and contribute, and
29:23
you're here on a regular basis, you might have an opportunity to come out
29:27
on our show to interact with our commentators. It's something I want to encourage
29:32
interact you with the show. We love when people come back in two and
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We're going to reward you and give you an opportunity to match what ends with
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all of us. So here's the one thing that I want to talk about.
29:48
Now, what intrigues you the most about the last ten? Number one
29:51
overall pitch we're gonna go with twenty thirteen are a Fisher, the offensive tackle
29:56
for Kansas City twenty four. He was in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen,
30:02
Jadavian Clowney defensive end out of Houston, twenty fifteen, Jameis Winston obviously if
30:07
Tampa twenty sixteen, Jared Goff of the Rams twenty seventeen, Miles Garrett defensive
30:14
end out of Cleveland, twenty eighteen, Baker Mayfield of Cleveland, twenty nineteen,
30:18
Kyler Murray quarterback of Arizona twenty twenty, Joe Burrow Cincinnati, twenty twenty
30:25
one, Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville, and lastman Ali's last year's Trayvon Walker defensive
30:30
end, Jacksonville. So all right, Jeremy, I'll lead it off.
30:33
Is there one particular pick that intrigues you the most, Well, you would
30:37
have to say for what he's done and where he went, it was Joe
30:41
Burrow. Joe Burrow did tons of great things for Cincinnati. He is one
30:48
of the most accurate quarterbacks coming out of college right now. Yeah, he
30:52
guess he has had issues, but that's mostly due to his old line.
30:57
But the results are there. He makes the playoffs, Okay, And uh,
31:06
when I do, are we doing parting shots tonight? I don't know,
31:10
I don't I doubt it. Now that Jacob and JB gets to Confidential
31:15
on time, but a lot of topics. But before we go to parting
31:18
shots, since we're not we're going to go to the chat room instead after
31:22
Candy gives let everybody know they get older. So JB go ahead. So
31:26
I'm gonna just say Miles Garrett because I was intrigued by the pick. Joe
31:30
Burrow is obviously to be the best out of the group. But Miles Garrett,
31:36
you know, he had an incident with the Steelers with duct Dodgers or
31:41
whatever the heck the guys day was nobody that the Steelers had a quarterback.
31:45
Had the opportunity to meet Miles at the Super Bowl two years ago. One
31:48
of the nicest guys of the world. You know, you wouldn't even realize
31:52
it with him if he didn't know who he was. Um. And he's
31:56
a great defenders. He actually helped Turner of that Cleveland defense and although that
32:01
you know, where they want to be a lot of facts on the offense,
32:04
a lot of the defense. He's done a great job keeping that line
32:07
and you know, getting pressure on the quarterbacks and stop of the running game.
32:10
Okay, Jacob, I'll tell you This is intrigues me. Why like
32:15
Kyler Murray and I believe whatsoever, Kyler Murray is nowhere near there if Drew
32:20
Breeson had the success that he did, because to this day, they're still
32:23
looking for that small guy. That's the small guy that is, you know,
32:27
that can throw a lot that gets They're gonna say, oh, they're
32:30
small, that it doesn't matter because Drew Brees had a whole career, So
32:34
I really believe that that one career has brought him to the thing. That's
32:37
the intriguing part. Candy Um, you know, Joe Burrow definitely is one
32:46
of the most successful lot of those, But the one that really intrigues me
32:53
is Trevor Lawrence because, let's face it, his first year out he had
32:59
just a wonderful coach, didn't he like? And then the boss coach over
33:04
well, and then to have to bounce back to have the year that he
33:07
did last year and take his team all the way to the playoffs. That
33:10
takes a lot. He's got he's young, so I mean, he hasn't
33:15
had as long of a career as some of those. But that's the one
33:17
that really intrigues me. All Right, you know what, I'm gonna go
33:21
double downward. J b Ellis said, I like Miles Garrett. And the
33:24
reason why I like Miles Garrett is he told to Cleveland Browns, if you
33:29
do not take me, you will regret it. And you know, so
33:32
he's really literally inviting himself to say take me. I want to go there,
33:37
and I will make sure you make the right pick. And he did.
33:40
Another one I actually liked in this group was actually Jared goff that.
33:45
You know, he ended up taking the Rams to a super Bowl. Maybe
33:47
not in a flashy manner for what Stafford did, but you know, I
33:52
like Jared Goffin. He's been a solid player in Detroit, a good quarterback,
33:54
and he appreciated there. So now that Jabe's back on screen, I'm
33:59
gonna go back to what I just said moments ago when you say, Jared
34:02
goff I held the number up three for that Super Bowl for one reason.
34:08
Two drops by Brandon Cooks and one drop by the tight end in the end
34:13
zone. Okay, good now back to my point. Thank you very much
34:15
for adding that piece of information. Really appreciate it. But yeah, you
34:20
know what, I like Miles Garrett, you know, and it gets back
34:22
to what I was mentioning with the Houston Texans approach at number two. Okay,
34:27
if you don't find a quarterback, there's nothing wrong with finding a defensive
34:30
player that's going to give you a ten to twelve years, nothing wrong with
34:32
that at all. That's what you need to do. If you don't feel
34:36
that there's a decent quarterback out there, don't burden the darn pick for the
34:39
sake of taking a player that you don't may not quite fit to nod give
34:44
Davis Love or Davis Mills. I think it is right. Well, I
34:46
was thinking tennis, okay, golf all right, and I'm not Jordan Love
34:51
and Josh Love of Michigan Panthers or whatever. But and who would know Josh
34:55
Love, Nobody unless the Lions take them. But my point is this,
35:00
going back to a JB. Ellis said, I like Miles Garrett, Jared
35:02
Goff. Obviously you give them enough targets. You saw the Lions came on.
35:07
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the Lions if they even pick
35:09
a quarterback. And a couple of names that I've heard that have been linked
35:13
to the Lions could either be Max Dugan or a Hendon Hooker too. So
35:16
those are guys that people might want to watch out four or later. So
35:21
that those are the things. So I'm going to go back to reiterate JB.
35:23
I agree with one hundred percent about Miles Garrett, Jared Golf there.
35:27
So, Candy, what I want you to do now is I once you
35:30
ago, let everybody know how they can find us, and then what we're
35:32
gonna do is do it a little different exercise. After that, I feel
35:36
we've covered a lot of ground. We're gonna go back to the chat room
35:38
and we're gonna highlight some of the key ones and everybody will comment on them
35:42
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36:59
do is let's grow up are and start picking out a few key comments would
37:05
stand out. Everybody'll get a crack of talking about them. Okay, and
37:07
then we have another ten minutes or so left in the show. So let's
37:12
see. Kean wrote, quarterback Bryce Young and a Lamar trade isn't happening?
37:17
Not the Ravens picked up OBJ for Lamar? All right, go ahead and
37:22
put him up on the screen so we can see him. All right.
37:27
What do you think, Jeremy? Not only that there is a rumor that
37:34
the Ravens are in on getting what's his name from the Cardinals. Yeah,
37:43
they're one of the leading candidates to get him because they're offering money and draft
37:47
compensation. Okay, so if they do that, I don't think Lamar's getting
37:52
traded anywhere. I think he'll stay to play because he'll finally have valid targets.
37:59
Okay, all right, so we're gonna do Candy's gonna head rain another
38:01
one, and we'll let one of our commentators answer that question. Go ahead,
38:09
Jacob, what are you gonna say to me if they do get rid?
38:15
It's what I thought in the first place. I think you're gonna be
38:16
trading one. I think it's gonna be a situation of trading one megastar for
38:22
basically another, if you're going to do something like that in the first place.
38:24
Otherwise, no, they're not gonna go get get another draft picker.
38:29
It go Tyler Huntley. They're not gonna do that. So they're not gonna
38:32
do that. So that's just what it is. You know. It's like
38:35
if they get rid, if you're going to get rid of Jill Mark Jackson,
38:38
you go get a start to facing to replace them. So that's the
38:40
way it'll go. Otherwise he sticks Okay, all right, cannyone else you
38:46
got out there, and yes, Jennifer, thanks for the kind words.
38:51
We appreciate you, jen. So Joshua was saying, how about the Panthers
38:54
so far tonight? As of right now they are tied three all with three
39:00
forty left in the third. The Bruins lead the season the series three one,
39:04
so the Panthers are holding off on but they got they got a score
39:07
to win it to keep keep the series going. All right, Joshua,
39:12
thanks for He's been on every night this week, is on a roll.
39:15
He won't be on tomorrow because we'll all be watching the NFL Draft. So
39:17
clad Candy so Keegan says defense Will Anderson, Texans will try to get Lance.
39:27
Okay, who wants to take a crack at this one? I don't
39:31
know. I think that'd be a bad move. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
39:36
I don't think Trey Lance is made to be quarterback in the NFL.
39:42
I sword from last year, and to be honest with you, you know,
39:45
here's here's I would say three under the five quarterbacks this year are going
39:50
to be NFL ready. Um, out of the five first rounders, you
39:54
know, and you have the number two pack, take a shot. That's
39:58
why you're so bad? You were horrible? Do something to give your fer
40:02
fans. Hope. You know all right, Kenny, I want you to
40:07
mention to this crew. We had a show on Monday night on an inside
40:10
the Kicks, and I think it was Corey Curtis, right, m Corey
40:15
Curtis is a young guy here from Southwest Florida. This kid here is slated
40:20
to actually go to the a Mon draft of the Dallas Cowboys, so locked
40:24
out for this name here on the draft boards. He could be sorry for
40:28
the guy. Yeah, me too, he told me wants the Dallas Cowboys.
40:32
Hey, you know what I'd like to see Corey Curtis go somewhere?
40:36
Well, you don't want if he goes there, I hope he lights it
40:37
up and becomes the best Cowboy of the Europe and he plays well. Fifteenth
40:43
of the seventeen games, he could take two games off, yeah, the
40:45
first two that the DAK starts before he's hurt again. Yeah right, yeah.
40:51
But this Corey, this Corey kids a dynamite young guy. He really
40:54
is. And he led off to our Draft week coverage. But Mello,
40:59
myself and George and we had a great time. And I hope that you
41:01
guys will have an opportunity down the road to meet this kid, because he's
41:05
the most level, added kat. He started actually at Ohio State under Ryan
41:10
Day and sat behind Stroud, and of course he transferred to a couple of
41:15
Division two schools got playing time. I can tell you the one thing,
41:19
don't count out those smaller school's influence when you start to see some of these
41:23
quarterbacks get selected in the later rounds or undrafted free agents, because you know
41:28
what we talked about undrafted free agents earlier in this show. Well, you
41:34
never know what hidden gems are going to come out of it. Go ahead,
41:37
came well, and we've always talked about brock Purty mister irrelevant too,
41:40
so you never know. Hey, Scott, one thing I got to get
41:45
done right now before I go to confidential. I got something to get done
41:47
with this. I know you got a couple of minutes left, but I
41:50
got to get something done before I go to confidential. So I gotta get
41:52
going, all right. So what that said, Why don't you let everybody
41:54
now they can reach you real quick, and then we'll continue off JB for
41:58
a Sunday Night's basketball. Monday Nights Pundit Views got another great interview Monday,
42:02
Tuesday's I'm off Wednesdays, these three shows pundits, pundit, this one here,
42:07
this one here, and then Confidential Thursday nights. Um beginning Yang once
42:12
in a while, just may when we come back Friday nights when they need
42:15
me Gauntlet and they go on, and then also working on a couple of
42:17
movies eventually very good. All right, well Jacob, thanks for being on
42:22
tonight and see you on Sunday night. All right, And now there are
42:29
four okay, but there is more in the chant room, candy, So
42:32
any other ones that stand out before we call it a night. In a
42:35
couple of minutes, Um, I like this one. Kurt Warner went from
42:40
begging groceries to a Super Bowl winner. Yeah, I mean, and we'll
42:45
get the nicest human being to the world. Yes, yes, yeah,
42:52
I mean you know. And he won that championship under Dick for meals,
42:54
so can't be all bad, kept saying, kept saying a lot about Bosa.
43:00
He was a beast before he got hurt. He was a captain of
43:04
the forty nine ers. Um. They're also given love to mahomes on wins
43:09
two Super bowls. Um. Let's see Big Ben was playing at a good
43:17
level before Mahomes even entered the league. Is a sharp character, Jeremy.
43:24
I like his comments. Hell be coming out a future edition with us in
43:29
the next few weeks or so, once I get to schedule reorganized. Go
43:30
ahead. Brady is the goat argument against that Leif was such a huge bust
43:38
and had a lot of off field issues. Okay, all right, Well
43:44
joined the obvious club. All right. Twenty sixteen draft two quarterbacks go number
43:51
one and two Jared Goff and Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz has been a bust
43:54
his whole career, except for the year that he was playing at an MVP
44:01
level until he got hurt. Oh, he would have blew into the playoffs.
44:06
Yeah, I think so too. He's a choker. He has no
44:08
mental fortitude. Well, let me tell you when Candy and I were over
44:13
at the Jacksonville Jaguars Indianapolis Colts, King Boy, that was you know what.
44:19
He actually didn't play that badly. When Matt Ryan got waxed, then
44:22
you know it was worse. But he had it right in their pocket.
44:25
He had Frank right there who worked with him in Philadelphia. Won that dynamic
44:30
didn't work out, then you know, you wonder where his next opportunity would
44:34
come. That was squandered with Washington and Ron Rivera. So he's still ahead.
44:39
He's still suffering from PTSD. When Nick Foles stole his thunder and won
44:44
a super Bowl. At least he's got a ring, though, all Right,
44:49
any other one's worthwhile, Candy. I agree, Barrow led them Bengals
44:52
to the super Bowl, but was a phenomenal college player, and he won
44:55
a championship game and won the Heisman. Yeah, I wouldn't while Burrow winning
45:00
a super Bowl at some point. This kid here is that when it talks
45:02
about maturity. To me, I really really really like Joe Burrow without a
45:08
doubt. So he's won everywhere. I think the Bengals will get a championship
45:13
at some point. I just wish he didn't look like in an adult version
45:15
of mcaulay Caulkin. I was waiting for the AWFA wall timent of the night
45:21
somewhere. I really was Cauley Caulking on the Sports Exchange. All right,
45:25
go ahead and Jamie, Yeah, no, I mean, I don't know,
45:30
I'm not I'm not fond of what Jacksonvill's doing. I think that they
45:35
had a good year. But I done. I'm not thinking that they're going
45:37
to go anywhere in the future. But have you seen this before? You
45:42
know I'm not I'm not a soldier Peterson. Okay, fair enough? All
45:47
right, Well you know what, folks, I want to just thank everybody
45:51
in the chat room. Jennifer con Keegan Ecker, will Vogel, who else
45:55
am I forgetting? George Ikar, williams Lambs, Felicity Jean, yeah,
46:04
Keegan, Yeah, that's that sounds about Josh and every league yep. So
46:09
I want to thank everybody's participation here in the chat room, and those that
46:14
continue to participate will be with us on the air. So kady. But
46:17
that said, we're gonna let JB go in a moment to Confidential. But
46:22
JB, before you do that, okay, why don't you let everybody know
46:24
how they can get a hold of yet. So JB underscore the program on
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Twitter Sideline Sports every Tuesday. Here on Wednesday, Confidential coming up at ten
46:35
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46:39
at the Draft. They'll be doing us of live contact coming up. There
46:45
a lot of great stuff coming out of Sideline sports. Make sure you watch
46:47
you to pay attention. It always a pleasure working here with the South part
46:52
of Tribute. Great partners. Yeah, you guys really are on the Loisball
46:55
partners, all those contributors that we've had on your end and vice versa.
47:00
I think it's a partnership that I'm so excited that we're we continue to build
47:05
on every second JB. And I'm JB. He's always dealing with me five
47:08
to seven days a week, so he probably needs I really feel bad for
47:16
he does. But he's one of those two cats out there that could actually
47:21
handle it well. And I look at JB is not only a partner,
47:23
but a true friend in every sense of the word. So and we have
47:27
a lot of big things in store. Listen, this only April. We
47:30
got a tire eight months or so, JB. I mean, this guy
47:34
gets an air vote for me. Guy, he does good to deserve a
47:36
gold medal. But JB, we'll be off the confidential and we'll see you
47:40
next Wednesday on the Sports of Change, and he'll be hearing from me a
47:43
whole lot more. I know that you're telling them telling about your upcoming move
47:47
real quickly. Oh no, we're gonna keep that off here, okay,
47:52
no problem, all right, all right, Well that's okay. All I
47:55
know is we're moving in the right direction exactly. That's good and all right,
48:00
guess all right, all right, Jamie, have a good confidential thanks
48:05
buddy, Even all right, and Jeremy go ahead and let everybody know they
48:10
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48:49
all right, one more time, Candy on me final what everybody know?
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can see all kinds of content. We get content from the Dolphins, the
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Jaguarars, the Lions. We get contents were from Jeremy, from George Ikhorn,
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Scott writes from us, I take pictures. I don't write. I
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take pictures. I also manage the website though as well. But we also
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have colleges that send us content. We have the Florida Gators. We have
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FAU they made the final four. You could go see stories. You can
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go see interviews that we have up on them from them. We have Nova,
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we have the Hurricanes in there coming up. We had the Spring media
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Day. Go see our videos and our website. You're missing out if you
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haven't been on them. Why are you waiting? And we got one more
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comment under the wire, so put it up there. Candy Travis Holmes,
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one of our commentators, are inside the Pickskin golad fanatic, Jack's fan and
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definitely agree with jab. I will be a believer if I can see it
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for a full season this coming year and a solid bulky draft. Jack's had
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a great second half of the twenty twenty three, but no promise that rolls
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over into a full twenty twenty four. I should point out tomorrow that I
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will be posting on social media my show that I did with Travis Holmes,
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Chris Purtle, and Kyle Nash on social media for Fire Up Florida. We
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talked about the Jacksonville taguires that will be going up on social media tomorrow.
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So thanks for chiming in at the very Travis. So meanwhile, I hope
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everybody enjoys the NFL Draft. There will be no my broadcast tomorrow as we
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will be watching it, but we hope you have an opportunity to listen and
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watch the show again. I know was my goal here tonight was to provide
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you with as much information as I could different patterns that may exist in the
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draft. And I'll reiterate one more time, watch out for that number to
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pick, because, as I've mentioned time and time again on the show,
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that is a wild card. Okay, so we'll see where the quarterback go
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the number two pick. But meanwhile, on behalf of Jacob Christner Jbllis Smoking,
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Jeremy B. Kanye Ebling and everybody in the chat room, Jennifer Leegue,
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Jennifer Cobb and the rest. My name is Scott Morgan Rolt the Motor
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City Madmouth. Thank you for joining us on this edition of the Sports Exchange
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and we will catch you on the next episode of the See the Sports Exchange.
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So you have yourself a great time everybody over the weekend watching the draft.
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Also, let's look forward to those hidden gems on rounds two and three.
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Good Night, everybody,