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Is Ohio State Going To Add More Transfers Before The 2024 Season? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, June fifth. I'm your host
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  Tom Moore. The Akron game in eighty seven days, the game he gets
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  Mahiot in one hundred and seventy eight days. We are headed into Ohio state
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  football camp season that starts today and Gerdaman and I will be among those out
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  at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center covering the camp. Should have Kevin and Mark
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  out there with us as well. It'd be a fun day get to get
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  a little in person scouting. We're going to talk about all the stuff we'll
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  get to do at camp, and some of the guys will be at camp
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  and all that stuff. We're going to do that in a minute, but
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  first it starts with some news about Ryan Day. On Tuesday, Day was
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  honored for his work involving mental health. He was out there with Ohio Governor
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  Mike Dwayane. So, yes, the most powerful man in the state of
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  Ohio and also the governor there together and also the second most powerful man in
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  the state of Ohio. Tony Gurdamer was there. Tony, let us know
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  a little bit about the event and what Ryan Day was honored for. Yeah,
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  the event was to the Faces of Resilience fundraising event to raise funds but
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  also to honor Ryan and his wife Nina Day for a one million dollar gift
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  that they gave back in twenty twenty two to help mental health with young people.
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  And the event basically celebrates and supports the planning of planning and development for
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  a comprehensive center for Psychiatry and Resilience at Ohio State. So you had the
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  head doctor there involved as well, So got to have a little presser with
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  the doctor, with the governor and with the Days talking about mental health,
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  the importance of it, how it has impacted the team, how this was
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  something that Nina Day has wanted to do since basically Ryan got the head coaching
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  job. Basically I don't know, it was the day after. So once
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  all that's done, she's like, Okay, well, what are we going
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  to do with this platform? And this is something that they've obviously been close
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  to for years and years, and Nina talked about her own struggles with anxiety
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  and things like that, So something that is obviously near and dear to their
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  hearts and they're helping to do something about it. Yeah, and I'm guessing
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  most people who are listening to this would know this. But the days started
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  the On Our Sleeves Foundation. That is a foundation specifically working on mental health
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  involving children, So you can you can find much more information on that if
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  you want to look that up. They do a lot of work work at
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  Nationwide Children's Hospital and organizations like that. So yeah, there's Ohio State coaches
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  generally will have an issue something that they want to really be a champion of
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  use that platform for good and that they's have certainly done some great work in
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  the area of mental health and especially mental health and children, so they should
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  be should be and were on Tuesday congratulated for that. After that they met
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  with some of the folks, including Tony to talk about some you know,
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  arguably less important stuff like college football, and he was asked, you got
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  a chance to talk to him a little bit about you know, right now,
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  this is a time when it feels like everyone's roster is just in permanent
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  flux. But the transfer portal now is closed, and it sounds like the
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  Ohio State roster as it is set right now is very likely, barring something
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  really really surprising, probably going to be the Ohio State roster heading into the
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  fall YEP, that's what Ryan said. They're done basically, and so now
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  I think there are three or four under the eighty five limits. So they'll
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  elevate some walk ones, give them some scholarships, or maybe just hold them
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  off, you know what, hold it out like a carrot and see how
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  they like that. But yeah, not expecting any more players can in certainly
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  not out there looking and I don't even know who else is out there and
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  left that would be of the caliber that Ohio State would be interested in.
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  So they've got that locked in. They've got summer workouts going on. They
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  just elected their leadership council this past weekend, I believe, so they're moving
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  head first in to the summer workouts and the preparation for fall camp, which
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  is I don't know, maybe like exactly two months from today maybe. Yeah,
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  that's usually first week of first week of August, usually like a Tuesday,
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  right is the first day there? So yeah, that's that's coming coming
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  fast and furious. Something else you got a chance to ask him about.
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  Was you mentioned walk On's there? You mentioned the eighty five scholarship player limit
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  there there is a proposal out there, there's an idea sort of floating around
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  that you know, hey, maybe you need to cut back on the number
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  of players on a roster. Maybe the walk on thing needs to kind of
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  end and it just needs to be eighty five. You get a chance to
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  ask Ryan Day about that. What were his thoughts on that? Yeah,
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  Like, I think he's echoing every single college football coach out there saying that
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  they don't want this rule. They they And I asked Brian Day about it,
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  and he's like, you you have there are a lot of a lot
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  of things to consider now with revenue sharing, and so that's why this has
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  become an issue because the fewer players you have, the fewer that the less
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  is to share. Basically, the more you get to keep, if you
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  will. And it's expensive to have more and more players if you have to
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  share the revenue with them. Or so the story is told. But you
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  know, Day understands the complications, the complexities, but also does not want
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  to lose the walk ons, and so he's hopeful that whatever happens, there
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  will be a way to keep those walk ons. And I know people will
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  say, well, the NFL has a fifty three man roster, but they
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  can go out on the street and get anybody any single week, or go
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  to grab another team's player on the practice squad and bring them in whenever they
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  want. So they have fifty three on a roster, but they really have
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  if you count every single player on all of the practice squads, you can
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  you know that's kind of their player as well if they need them. So
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  it's not just fifty three players and having just eighty five players who are not
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  professionals, who are just you know, eighteen to twenty two year olds,
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  you're asking them a lot. And so the coaches, I have not heard
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  any coach that is in favor of this, and Ryan Day certainly is not
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  in favor of the eighty five and and it may not and maybe maybe it's
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  ninety five whatever, But you're talking about programs like Ohio State, they have
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  well over one hundred players and you know, twenty five to thirty five walk
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  Ons. There's a proud history at pretty much every program involving their walk Ons,
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  walk Ons elevating two scholarship players. You know, or you know you
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  don't have enough scholar or you have you're at eighty five. So the walk
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  Ons don't get a scholarship. They're paying their way to play, and some
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  great memories, some great experiences, some great stories come from all of that,
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  and so definitely does not want to give that up. Yeah, I
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  would imagine that would be a tough sell with pretty much any football coach,
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  especially with the season potentially getting longer. You're probably going to need more people,
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  not fewer. So that seems like that's probably probably not going to be
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  an idea that goes all that goes over all that well with college football coaches,
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  but as we have seen in the past, they do not always get
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  the fun I'll vote on that type of thing, So we'll see. We'll
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  see where that ends up. Heading. I can tell you where we're going
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  to be heading, and that is to the Woody Hayes Athletic Center on Wednesday
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  morning to cover Ohio State's first summer camp of the year. This is always
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  a really fun chance for us to get out there and you know, spend
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  some time in the sunshine and or thunderstorms as the forecast is calling for on
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  Wednesday afternoon, but it's a chance to see a bunch of players who are
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  potentially trying to earn an offer from Ohio State, Guys who maybe are younger
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  guys who are You're getting a first look in person at some of these guys.
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  I remember covering a safety by the name of Caleb Downs a couple of
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  years ago at camp, getting some great pictures of him working with the coaching
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  staff. Whatever happened to that guy, But lots of other guys branded in
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  this we saw at one of these camps. Carnel Tate, We've seen at
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  these camps. I mean, all these guys, Tavian Saint Clair, We've
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  seen at these camps over the years. So this is a really good opportunity
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  to see, you know, the potential stars of the future up close working
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  with the Ohio State coaching staff. And it's also sort of it's not an
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  official recruiting event, but you know, some times you guys get guys who
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  earn an offer at these camps. Sometimes you get guys who you know,
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  cement relationships with coaches and end up committing, you know, following a couple
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  of days of these camps. So you know, this is you know,
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  this is potentially a very impactful day in the future for some of these players
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  and for the program as well. I have always found, though Tony,
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  that this is something where there's some positions that are better to evaluate in these
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  camps than others. Like you can watch the running backs, and the running
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  backs are generally just kind of working through drills, and it's not you don't
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  necessarily get a sense for the type of vision they need that kind of thing.
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  You get a sense for how fast guys are, how shifty, but
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  not necessarily the vision for running back. But there are certainly positions where I
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  you know, you can look at guys, especially during what they call the
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  winter loser position at the end the winter Loser drill, where guys are going
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  one on one where you get a chance to really get the measure of how
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  these guys stack up. Yeah, and it's interesting to watch them over a
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  couple of years, as we've gotten to see with the tav in Saint Clair,
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  where you see the growth from year to year. But anytime you can
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  watch some one on ones, so you take it with a grain of salt,
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  but still it's fun to watch. And like you said, you can
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  see when somebody just dominates and continues to dominate, then you know, you
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  take note of that and all of these different evaluations that go on, whether
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  it's you know, the linebackers. And you got James lorn niis out there
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  yelling or wherever it's happening. The amount of eyes, the amount of pressure,
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  this is all. You've got so much moving on around you, going
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  on around you, and everybody's vying for like a scholarship, and it doesn't
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  happen for many, and it happened, and you most of the guys there
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  are going to walk away and without a scholarship. And the guy that I
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  keep thinking about is Antoine Winfield Junior. A few years back, he was
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  he was part of the class of twenty sixteen, so this probably would have
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  been twenty fourteen. On the indoor field at the Woody, I'm standing behind
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  Antoine Winfield Senior watching his son work out, vying for scholarship offer from Ohio
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  State. He did not get that scholarship offer. Tom And before you look
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  to see who Ohio State signed in that twenty sixteen out of the secondary,
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  I'm gonna give you some names that Ohio State signed instead of offering Antoine Winfield
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  Junior. And you tell me if they did the right thing. Now,
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  Jordan Faller, I'll give you that one. Then you've got pardon me.
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  Wayne Davis out of Norfolk, Virginia, Brod Jay Burns Corner out of Trinity
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  in Louisville, Kentucky, Johnson Wentz, and Kareem Felder. Kareem Felder eventually
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  did not make it into school. So those are the guys that they felt
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  were more equipped to play at Ohio State than the son of one of the
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  greatest to ever do it. Am I bitter? Am I disappointed in the
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  the decisions of these grown evaluating men. No, no, no, yeah,
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  I'm just I'm just glad this is not something that you're still angry about
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  literally ten years later. That's wonderful. I'm so glad to hear it.
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  There are good stories as well, Tony doesn't have to be just bitter and
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  angry about everything, you know. I think back to like Darren Lee,
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  for example, who kept coming and kept coming and kept coming and kept coming,
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  and Luke Fickle kept pounding the table and pounding the table and pounding the
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  table for him and he ended up being a real impact player on that twenty
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  fourteen National championship team. And you see guys typically you can sort of almost
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  see it coming when you're at camp, where you'll see a guy and you
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  know, you can tell usually from across the field who are the potential prospects
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  versus who are the guys who are just there to camp and get the experience,
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  And so you can sort of tell immediately. And then you watch a
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  guy maybe dominate some of the drills, and then generally if Ryan Day comes
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  over to watch that guy, you know the position coach has it, texts
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  Ryan Day, hey, come over and watch so and so that's an indication
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  Okay, they're thinking about it. And then if the player goes back into
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  the coach's offices. A lot of times during the course of camp, you
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  can sort of see the coaching staff walking guys back into the building is like,
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  uh huh, I bet I know what's happening now, And those are
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  the guys who tend to If you see that, it's a good indication.
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  You know, hey, you might be might be looking at someone who's going
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  to get an offer. And generally you'll see that tweet it out by the
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  player later on in the day. We will sometimes get a chance to talk
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  to those guys at the end of the camp at the end of the day
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  as well, so we get a chance to get to know some of these
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  guys a little bit and get some more information on them. So really,
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  really a big, big potential day in the careers of a lot of these
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  different guys. There are a bunch of guys coming in this week, Tony,
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  I'll just run through a couple quick that just are players of me,
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  you know, maybe some note people to keep an eye on. Twenty twenty
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  five offensive lineman Nolan Davenport out of Massialin. He has offers from Penn State
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  and Wisconsin and Missouri and others. Could potentially be an Ohio State offer.
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  We'll see. He will get a chance to work out with Justin Frye.
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  Twenty twenty six tackle Adam Guthrie out of Miami Trace. He's got offers from
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  Penn State and Tennessee in Oregon, Miami, among others. John Stover.
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  He's another top twenty twenty six lineman. He's out of Texas. Probably more
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  of an inside guy Gothrie, maybe more of a tackle. Penn State and
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  Oregon offers there. Twenty twenty six cornerback Victor Singleton out of Toledo Central Catholic.
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  He's a top fifty player in the country, putting to two four seven
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  so those are some of the names. The name that's going to get the
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  most attention this week, and justifiably so. Though Tony is jakeem Stewart,
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  number one player in twenty twenty six, potentially could reclassify at twenty twenty five.
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  He's someone that Mark and Kevin met with on Southern Swing. He's going
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  to be there Thursday, and you can usually you know, first of all,
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  you can usually tell the guys who are like this is potentially the number
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  one player in the class. Those guys are not very hard to pick out.
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  I am not the single most talented scout out there. I can usually
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  pick those guys out. That's one where you know, this is potentially a
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  very big visit to get someone who is a Louisiana native up to Columbus on
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  something that's an unofficial visit, get a chance to see the facilities, meet
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  the coaches, all that kind of stuff. This is potentially a really big
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  deal for Ohio State to have him on campus this week. Yeah, and
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  a lot of these guys look come up, but they're not going to work
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  out, you know, so regardless, State's going to take the visit.
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  Whether you want to work out or not. Just to be able to continue
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  to build that relationship. And if somebody from Louisiana wants to come up on
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  their own dime, somebody, you know, a five star defensive lineman from
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  the South, Yes, come on up. Do you have do you have
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  mac Quest? Do you know how to get here? And and this is
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  one that you take it and you Larry Johnson, I'm sure is going to
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  be spending time with them. It is always interesting also during these camps to
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  watch the position coaches. You don't have to watch long to figure out who
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  are the targets because they'll pull them aside, they'll run them through again,
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  they'll talk to them while other drills are going on. And then you've got
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  the assistant running the drills. So they're they're they're coaching up, they're building
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  relationships. And I remember watching Devin Devin Sanchez last year with Tim Walton,
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  they were pretty much shouldered to shoulder for a lot of a lot of one
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  of those afternoons just watching drills, going through them, talking it out.
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  And we've seen that with Larry Johnson for years doing that with all kinds of
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  defensive linemen coming in, and I expect we'll see that again this. Yeah,
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  as you're talking, I'm just thinking through all these current O High state
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  football players that we saw coming in at camp. Or remember Hero Canoe coming
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  in with the group from Europe and watching him and boy Larry Johnson spent a
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  lot of time with Hero Canoe. Now Hero Canoe on the Ohio State defensive
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  line, so high Hamilton a few years ago, working at the working at
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  the camp. So yeah, this is this is one of those things that
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  I think the average fan probably doesn't pay a ton of attention to, but
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  is a sort of low key, very important month and very important series of
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  events pro high state recruiting for not just this current class, but for several
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  classes in the future. There are some twenty twenty seven quarterbacks that we're going
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  to be keeping an eye on, which I'm not emotionally ready to talk about
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  the recruiting class of twenty twenty seven yet, but we'll get there eventually.
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  But we will be out there on Wednesday covering everything for you at bucke huddle
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  dot com and YouTube dot com slash bucke Huddle. We'll try and get you
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  some interviews, get you some photos, some video, all that kind of
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  good stuff. Get you some real, genuine Ohio State football content coming to
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  you from from the Woody Hayes Athletic Center this week again at Buckey Huddle dot
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  com and at YouTube dot com slash Buckey Huddle. That'll do it for today.
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  Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll
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  talk to you tomorrow.