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#540 Getting Real With Tom Renz: Attorney, Analyst, Warrior and Patriot! Fighting Corruption, Covid Mandates, Exposing Child Sex Abuse and More! · Claymore: Become Who You Are

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited and honored to be with Tom Rents.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Tom's an attorney, a political commentator, educator, businessman and patriot who gained international attention for his work challenging corruption in the US government and advocating for individual liberties, medical freedom and informed choice.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: I came across Tom's work originally when I'm trying to get to the truth myself about the COVID pandemic, and Tom was already fighting against the COVID-19 vaccine mandates, other restrictions, when not many people were, and I knew this man has courage, the courage and the heart of a lion.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Through his work at Wren's Law, tom's empowering individuals and organizations to stand up for their rights, fight for the preservation of our constitutional freedoms and especially, I think, as a husband and father.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: He understands we have a responsibility, all of us do, and Tom's a great leader.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: He's leading the charge.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: He's right in the front like a general in the army, leading us all to say, hey, listen, we need to all stand up, be cognizant of what's going on around us, fight for that.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: You know, get, get the guts to fight for the freedoms and the futures of our kids and our grandkids.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: I have seven grandkids now.
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: Tom, I appreciate you so much.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your work.
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: It's so good to be with you.
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling today?
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: I'm honored to be here.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: You know, we've done some every day, every day for the last four years.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: I've been waking up and I get up and it's like what can we do to try and make our country a little more free today?
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: And that's actually no joke, I really do.
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: It's like, ok, you know, I got I got a whole long list of things.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: What, what else can we do to keep this country free, because freedom's the name of the game here.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: And today's been a good day.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: We moved the ball down the field on a few things, got the word out on some things, I broke some news today on a couple things that you're going to be seeing a lot more of that coming.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: So it's been a good day.
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: Tell our audience, tom that doesn't know you.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: They need to get they, they need to follow you.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: You know I I just saw a sub stack piece.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can get into a little bit on child sex trafficking, very important to us, what we do at the john paul to renewal center.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: We're always standing up for kids and their families.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: I work with I we.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: I do a presentation with another tom, tom ham, who's an undercover crime investigator for child sex trafficking, child porn.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: He told me one time we do this presentation.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: Tom called Stolen Innocence, which is just trying to wake people up to what's going on around them.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: You know, following the work that you're doing.
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: And here's what he told me one time years ago when we first met.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: He said, jack, this is so big that we can't just arrest our way out of it.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: He said we have to.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: The best we can do, you and I, is to try to wake as many people up so that they can support their local law enforcement.
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: But he said even then, he said if those people, our local law is not corrupt and they try to open this up, they're going to open up a can of worms.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: And because this is national and international, and he said, the web is huge.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: You found that out already.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: So so I, you, you take this where you want, tom.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: But I want people to get to know you a little bit.
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: You know, because you you were in a, you're an attorney that this wasn't on your mind, was it Originally?
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got your family, you've got your.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: Tell us just a little bit about how you transitioned into this Cause you told me that here.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: I'll just say one more thing, tom.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: I was in St Charles, illinois.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: I raised my kids there, downsized now I moved outside, but I was there to see you in a presentation.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: I went to a Panera with a journalist to talk about a couple things.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: You were coming into town for the presentation.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: You were going to grab a quick bite to eat.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: I saw you there, I recognized you.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: We started to talk and we had a little light dinner together before your presentation and I got to know your heart and I thought, wow, what a beautiful story and what a courageous man this was.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: Can you take us just a little bit into that and then transition to tell us what's on your mind and how you came into this COVID fight?
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: And also, tom, this sex trafficking thing?
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: Man, I mean this is brutal, this is brutal.
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: It is Well, and I mean there's a lot there, a lot there, right?
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm just minding my business, living my life, and I had been in the.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: I went to law school a long time ago, been in banking, consulting all sorts of different things.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: I'd done all sorts of things and I had finally decided, okay, I got done with law school, but I didn't want to practice traditional law.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: I just didn't want to.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: I was consulted, doing all sorts of different jobs, all sorts of different things, and finally I talked to my wife and said well, we got to figure out a way to kind of stabilize things and settle down, be a little more quiet, because our kids are growing up.
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: I got two little boys, two boys.
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: They're 14 and 11.
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: And so decided okay, I'm going to go into traditional practice, I give up, I'm going to open up a nice quiet little traditional law practice in my little town and we're going to do normal things like wills and maybe a little criminal and maybe a little civil and just that sort of thing, right?
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: So that is in 2019 that I'm doing that, right?
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the same time, and for no apparent reason that I could point to other than God.
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: I had decided for again to get a master's in health science.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: Why, at 40 years old plus, are you getting a master's in health science?
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: My wife says, and I said I don't know, I just feel like I ought to.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: So I sign up and I'm doing my master's.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: December of 2019 and January 2020 roll around and I'm working on the master's in health science and you see stories about this flu type virus circulating in Wuhan, china.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're doing your master's work on health science, there's not a whole lot of interesting things happening.
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: So when something's in the news, you study it, right?
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I started doing my courses and my master's work and my research on covid and what I found was bizarre.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: It was peculiar because, you know, every time I looked, I was hearing about how terrible this disease was and all these different things about it, and from december on through to to the lockdowns, they kept the volume, kept increasing, kept increasing.
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's so terrible, it's so terrible.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: But when the government officials and the media were telling us how terrible it was, they were speaking in vague terms and then, when I would go look at what they said, I would go look it up, right, because I'm working on a master's and I can't write a paper on.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: It's terrible.
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: If I'm going to do an epidemiology, if I'm going to look at the epidemiology on a disease, I have to have real numbers, right.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: So so I look for the real numbers, and the numbers don't match the rhetoric at all.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: So fast forward, and the numbers are never matching the rhetoric.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: And they keep covering up the numbers and hiding the numbers.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: And they're doing things that are not normal, because normally these numbers would be front and center, they'd be sharing the epidemiological data immediately, they'd be trying to make sure everybody was aware, you know, if this was a real thing, that's what they do, but in this case they're hiding everything.
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: So by the time lockdowns come in, my lawyer senses are kicking in.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: I'm saying this is all BS, it's garbage, there's nothing going on here, this is a bad flu season, it's nothing more, there's nothing crazy about this, and we knew that, like I could show you the numbers that said it.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: Then they tell us hey, we're going to lock you in your house for 14 days without due process.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: You're going to be under house arrest for 14 days, this entire country to flatten an imaginary curve that doesn't exist.
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: So I say hell, no, hell, no.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: So I prayed.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: I was like god, you put in front of me, I'll fight it.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: So I started fighting and that was the end of my quiet little law practice.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean and I think, and I think it was probably soon after that, tom, I'm poking around and what you're saying right now, you were saying four years ago, weren't you?
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: yeah, If you look at the first major filing and it was the first filing of its kind in the country I authored it it was in the beginning of September 2020.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: I did it with the only other lawyer I could find in the country that was willing to work with me at the time, and that is Bob Gargis, a man who's got more bravery than about any other lawyer I've ever ran across.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: We filed this case and in it we showed masks don't work.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: Social distancing is made up.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: The COVID wasn't really all that dangerous and that basically everything that they were saying was a lie and all the things that we've since found out were false.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: We knew in 2020.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: I can show it to you.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: And there's a record.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: You can go to TomRunscom.
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: We've got that first case posted there.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: You can look it up.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: You can read the case and I challenge anyone to look at that fact pattern.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: Tell me where I'm wrong and tell me what of that hasn't been proven correct.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: Everything I said was correct and we were correct four years ahead of time.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: So what happened was and it wasn't because I had magic my magic was I worked my tail off to research and get to the bottom of it.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: So we did that.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: Then we filed more and more cases and we continued fighting and you know we were right over and over.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: We had numerous whistleblowers came to us.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: You know we brought out that the vaccines were dangerous.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: We brought out that the vaccines were causing death.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: We broke the news that there were thousands of deaths, then hundreds of thousands of deaths.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: We brought out the DMED data that they're poisoning our soldiers.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: We brought out everything we brought out.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: We brought the lawsuit that Fauci had to step down from, because you know we sued over the creation of it in Wuhan, china, which was funded by Fauci.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: We gave before Congress put out its report on the origins.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: We gave them the report that they, I said I think they based it on, of course they wouldn't give us credit.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: I mean basically the government vaccine mandates.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: Those got shut down because we did.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: We did a lot of work there.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: I was very proud of it.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Praise God that he gave us the wisdom and discernment to do it.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know it takes a man that's seeking the truth.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: But in order to seek the truth, I think you do have to go into prayer, and I won't bring you right there right now, but I know you're a faithful guy.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: I think this is what drives the truth.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: But give people a sense of what attacks you were under at that point, Tom, because what you just said is a mouthful.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: But we have to take people back, because I remember the vitriol and the attacks starting to come out.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: You know you went, like you said, from this, this kind of thought of a, of a, of a quiet practice, and you put yourself, you know, talk about opening a can of worms.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: You opened a can of worms, didn't you, brother?
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean we went through everything.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: I mean we had very legitimate death threats.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: We had people try and buy me off right and left.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: We had people that, yeah, they tried to set, they did everything they tried to.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: The Washington Post spent I don't know how much money and over six months investigating a nobody attorney from Ohio.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: They went so far as to contact the mayor of the town I grew up in a town of 3,000 people and to contact a fry cook, a 19-year-old fry cook that worked for my brother at a local bar and grill in the town that I grew up in.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: The Washington Post.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: These guys did everything when they couldn't find anything.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: They wrote lies, they just made stuff up.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: They, they insinuations, hit pieces.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: You know, they said the death threats, everything that they could do.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: They I mean there was literally nothing that they could throw.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I was referenced in the new york times, the washington post, everywhere, and none of the references were good.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah and I remember, I remember looking them up and thinking how does the guy have the courage to stand up against all of this?
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: And of course other voices were coming out too and thank God right you thank God for these voices, but it was amazing.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: That was the strategy.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: Part of the secret sauce there was.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I knew, listen, I wasn't the right guy for this job.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: I, I, it's not.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't have 40 years of experience, I didn't have children's health defense, I didn't have a huge backing, I didn't have any money, I didn't have any notoriety, I had nothing.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: I was the worst possible person for this job and in fact, the first clients that brought me in for that giant case, I told them outright I'm like, listen, I'm not the right guy for this job, I'm just the only guy that'll do it.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: So you can either work with me or not.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing?
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: You know, it reminds me of how God selects people to do his work.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Really, I, you know the work that you do.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: I look at.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Everybody can have their own slant on this.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a, I'm a, I'm a religious guy, right, and I know you are too God.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: God picks, picks people like us, tom, and especially when you what you just described on purpose, because he knows that you know you don't, you're not overly prideful.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: You're going to come at this thing and you're going to do it from the right spirit, and that's what you did.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: So thank you for all of that.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Well, all credit to glad, but you know there's no glory in driving in a nail with a hammer.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: You can drive in a nail with a broken screwdriver, you're doing something right and that's what I was was the broken screwdriver.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: But you know when we did that the attacks were nonstop, but I actually told you.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: I have them in my notes from.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: You know my early work, you know, going back to summer of 2020.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: If I'm able to put this together in a way that is absolutely indisputable, everything I say is backed by rock solid evidence from the government indisputable.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: And if I put it out there and if I publicize it and I make people aware, and if I get it in court, then I can get the right guys for the job.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: On the job, someone has to lead and take the arrows right.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Someone has to go out and stand on that hill and take those arrows and stand.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: And I wasn't the right guy to win this, but I was willing to take those arrows and do what was necessary to plow the road, and so I did.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: I plowed the road and then behind me came a lot of people who were my betters Okay, and, by the way, I wasn't the only guy.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: You know, I stood on the shoulders of giants and health freedom before me.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Now, they may not have been doing what I was doing on the legal side of the COVID fight, but you know, dr Sherry Tenpenny, pam Popper, rfk all these guys had been working in this for years.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Dr Peter McCullough was out there, right off the bat too, wasn't he?
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: he came in quite a bit after we started.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, he did, but he did come in pretty early.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: He came in first on early treatment, then on vaccines, and he's became an absolute hero.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: I mean he really has.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: But that was what I was looking for, right.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: That was the point.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: That was the road I had to plow.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: I had to put out enough credible, indisputable evidence and make the controversy public enough that guys like McCullough and these other guys could come in and do what they did.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: So we stood and we stood through hell.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie to you.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: There was no money, there was no sleep.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: There was, I mean, I didn't have, I didn't have a staff.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I it was just, yeah, whoever you could get to help you on anything you could, I mean it was just go.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: You know, tom, I I want to add something here for people that are listening, because I, you know, we encourage people to do local things right stand up at school boards, libraries.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I want people to hear this story when they're wondering do I have the courage to go read something about porn in the local library?
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I, you know, I got banned from our local library, uh, not so long ago, for exposing the porn in there, and sometimes, you know, you take a little beating like that.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: It's good to hear a story like yours, just because if you had the courage to do what you did, we can have the courage to do a little thing like that, you know, which, which might be a big deal for someone who's never done that before.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Right, that never stood up before.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: And they need to hear this story.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: But but let's let's talk about this, tom, because since then you haven't given up.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: You've exposed all kinds of corruption.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: You know when you got into this.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Now you start to expose corruption.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: The problem is.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: The problem is we're finding out that there's a lot of corruption, Tom, don't we?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: And we're fighting an animal that's a little bigger than I think most of us understood until you peel back.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to transition a little bit into that child sex trafficking or not, but but just in general too, if you have any thoughts on that, I mean, as you, as you're peeling back these layers, we need to support guys like you.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I, you know, I it's one appeal I was going to make at the end, but I'll make it now.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: We need to support guys like you.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I'll get I'll make sure that we get your contact information places in there and give it to us right now, Tom, and we'll make sure we get it in the show notes, but just a small amount.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I'm asking for people to support guys like you, because you're in this fight and you start to understand it the way you do.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: We need you to stay in the battle.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let me be real blunt about where I'm at.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: For three years I was the most in-demand attorney in the country and for three years I didn't send out a single bill for my legal work.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Everything I did in COVID was free or based on the donations that I was given.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I've spent any personal wealth I have, so that's gone.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: And then my wife got diagnosed with stage four cancer, which we're fighting now, and I'm facing sanctions in a court from what I believe is one of the most crooked judges I've ever seen.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: So you know we're facing.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're hurting.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: We're hurting really bad financially.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: But you know, I promised God I'd fight this from under the bridge embankment if I had to.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: So I will and I'm not going to whine about it, but I would.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Support is tremendously appreciated.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, we're I'm hoping we don't lose the house.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: It's that sort of trouble, but we're going to do whatever we got to do to keep fighting.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: One thing I can promise is, whatever happens, we'll keep fighting, because that's the promise I made to God.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, yes, anything that people do we have, give, send, go.
• 18:29
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• 18:32
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• 18:33
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• 18:35
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• 18:38
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• 18:46
  Speaker 2: You know, if you support our show, anything that people can do to help us, we'll take anything we can.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: You know, we put out books, we put out t-shirts, we put out mugs, we got affiliates in gold, we got affiliates in all sorts of things.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean anything that you can do.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It's all at TomRenzcom and then give, send, go, slash.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Renzlaw is, you know there, but we do.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: We do need support because we continue to fight and what happened was at the end, as COVID continued.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So I will never leave COVID until we get justice for COVID.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: But In seeking justice for COVID, what I found?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: If I find a drug user on the street and I call the cops and they arrest him, I got rid of a drug user on the street, but the drug dealer is going to keep doing it right and there's going to be another drug user.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: So you want to go after the dealers.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And when I looked at COVID, okay, anthony Fauci is an absolute crook, but Anthony Fauci didn't sell out the public health of America because he just felt like doing it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: He did it because someone bought him off, so the question I had was who bought him off?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: That question led me to start investigating the systemic corruption throughout the United States.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: You know, you hear all this stuff about systemic racism, systemic, this, systemic, that Well, I got one for you systemic corruption.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: The US is filled in and really systemic corruption is the foundation of our country right now Both parties, everywhere.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: It's sick, it's just sickening.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And so I start peeling back and kind of pulling the thread.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: That's the sweater of corruption and I find it everywhere, right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: So I see things like mRNA being put into our food supply.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: That was huge, we blew the whistle on that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I see creating aerosolized vaccines.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I see them putting vaccines in mosquitoes mosquitoes that can actually vaccinate you no informed consent, of course, but who cares?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I see different things that they're doing in our water and all these different things.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And then I start looking elsewhere and I start seeing that when I trace the money up the chain of who's buying off the COVID guys, that it's the same guys who were buying off people in election fraud, in some of the weaponization of the DOJ, basically the entirety of the crooked Biden administration, harris administration.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Then I start looking at other.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I see child trafficking in the southern border and it's the same people using the same mechanisms.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And this corruption is so systemic and so widespread that what I've been, the transition has never been away from COVID.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: It's been trying to understand who are the real bad guys and how do we get rid of them.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: How do we?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And that led us to looking at things like child sex trafficking, like the election fraud, like the Southern border drugs.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: All these different things and again, always the same people.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: So if we can get to the head of the snake and remove the head of the snake, that's going to disrupt the whole body and that's the goal.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big, that's a big goal and because they have a lot of money and unfortunately, there's a lot of agencies right, federal agencies that we know have been weaponized.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: When I was dealing, and as I deal with, really, what we were talking about initially was in the school systems, tom, the corruption in the school systems, the indoctrination, the pornography, the grooming that's going on in our schools.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: We start to look out at sex trafficking because I'm from Chicago.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: There's another town called Rockford, not too far from where I live today in the Western suburbs, and these are hubs for sex trafficking.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: As we started to unpeel that, I started to work more with Tom Hampson.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: He started to unpeel this for me and my eyes opened up and I just thought this is overwhelming.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, people have to wake up to this.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And what we found is and what I read an article of yours recently in a small town, millersville in tennessee yeah, there's a millis, uh, the, the, the millersville police department.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe you could address that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I mean they actually were trying to eliminate corruption.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: They get brought in, some good guys get brought in, and what happens to them, tom, what?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So these guys, they partner and they start doing some stings on child sex trafficking.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Now let's let's be real clear about trafficking.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: So when we talk about arresting child predators, the people who get arrested are the sick stepfather who's raping his stepdaughter Okay, those guys get arrested.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: The people that don't ever get touched are the industrial sex traffickers, right, the people who are moving children in mass.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: People who are making their money moving children in mass.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: People who provide children for politicians, for corrupt officials, who use children as sex objects so that they can then blackmail the people who make use of them Jeffrey Epstein, and then, of course, the allegations with Diddy type.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: These people never get touched.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: The people that you hear arrested are the nobodies who have no particular power or authority, particular power or authority.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So when we talk about the industrial sex trafficking and the industrial, that's actually human trafficking is a better way to look at it, because within human trafficking, you have sex trafficking, you have slavery yes, we have slavery in this country and then you have organ harvesting Some of these kids we have actual hard evidence of children being murdered for their organs.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: They literally murder them, harvest their organs and use them for various purposes, and so this is a real thing in the United States.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: The United States is the Mecca.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: We are the global leader in human trafficking.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: The southern border is facilitating a ton of it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: 300 plus thousand children who came in this country across the southern border illegally have disappeared.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You think that they're living in a good home somewhere?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I got news for you.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Where'd they go?
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: 300,000?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: plus, if you pause, I think you need to pause on that number.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a huge number of children and when you think about it, these are.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And this is why we do at the John Paul II Renewal Center what we do is we see this attack on the most vulnerable, innocent and defenseless among us.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: When you think about a child, a young child, they have to.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You know they're away from their parents now and and they have to trust somebody and they have nobody.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: This is a sick thing, tom.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to pause because it's not just the statistic.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: These are frightened, scared children.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: This is a demonic thing and uh, and we have to be aware.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: So what?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I want people to listen to what you're going to say right now and take it seriously.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: We have to all become the eyes and ears for these young, young people yeah, well, and let me give you an example.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Let me give you an example I'm looking over.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I just looked over because I got a couple screens and I got my my research screen right.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Dundee water park under investigation for alleged labor trafficking.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Remember, not all trafficking is sex.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Some of it's slavery.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: What happens is is these kids get put into this and they get trafficked for whatever they're going to be trafficked for, and it's a massive industry.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's the industry is.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: You know, people have suggested that the industry is as lucrative as drugs and a lot of the drug cartels are very much involved with and tied to it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Because the cartels, you know, they don't care what they're selling, whether it's people, whether it's drugs, they don't care.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: And you know the whole thing is illegal and the whole thing's done the same way.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And so this is done.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: They will much like drugs, you know you get someone hooked on it right, or Well, much like drugs, you know you get someone hooked on it right, or you get, you know, you get someone in a compromised position with a child.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: You got video of it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Well, guess what?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: You own them for the rest of their life.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: And that was the Epstein model, right?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: You know he would get video of these politicians, different people you know, with kids, and then he owned them for the rest of their life.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Now here's the thing that's really incredible about this what will happen and what does happen frequently, both on the state and federal level is.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You know, let's say, you go to Congress, right, and you're a good guy and you're standing for your thing and doing your thing and you want to, you get all your principles.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: You get down there, you get invited to a soiree Right, and while you're there, someone hey, have a drink here.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: It's a handsy drink, right.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: The next morning you wake up in a hotel room.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: You have no recollection of what happened, but there's a couple pictures on the pillow next to you of you in a compromising situation with a couple naked kids, and there's a note saying we own you.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: This is a real thing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: This is actually happening.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, we can't prove how many or who, but we do know it's very well known.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: This is a common thing that's happening.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And so here's the problem it's not just top level political officials, it's happening on a pretty broad scale, not necessarily brownstone events, but manipulation, buy-offs, sell us different things, and there's so many ways this can happen.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Well, let's take Millersville PD in Tennessee.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Millersville, a tiny little town in Tennessee.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Right, these guys are doing work.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: They partner with a group to do a sting on child sex predators and they're doing all this research and a couple of things happen.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So, first of all, the sting is very effective and they've got some people who are apparently people with friends, people with power, people with connections, right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So all of a sudden there's media blowback and all this other stuff and the media is attacking the Millersville Police Department for attempting to try and bust child sex trafficking.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's insanity.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Further, these guys were doing legit police work.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Well, what I wrote about in the sub stack, and one of the things that's really important to understand is how does this happen?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Well, frequently, because you can't just give someone a briefcase full of cash to buy them off.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: That doesn't work right, because there's taxable events.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: If you deposit it, someone's going to ask where it came from.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: You can't do that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You have to launder the money and laundering money is a crime and laundering money is the way that someone buys you off but makes the money look like it's not dirty money, thus the term laundering.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: So one of the big schemes out there that's happening on a major, major, massive scale.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It's happening all over this country.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: There has been incredible reports out of Arizona with local officials in Pennsylvania, nevada, all over the place, but in Millersville these guys were doing research on this and they found something.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: There is a tool it's called the FinCEN database that you can access, which is really the only good way to determine how this is working.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Because what will happen is you get an official.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: They'll take out a home equity loan on their house.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe they got a $100,000 loan.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: They take out a $300,000 home equity loan, which is insane so they bring it over, they do $5,000 worth of work on their house and they pocket the money and then someone else pays off the loan.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Now there's no record of who's paying off the loan or how it's being paid off.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So unless you have this FinCEN tool, the money becomes laundered and it's almost impossible to spot.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Well, with the FinCEN tool, you can start to track that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Well, these guys figured that out.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Well, understand, everyone, from Joe Biden on down.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's reports of Joe Biden laundering money this way, you know, taking massive home loans and then someone's paying them off right, or it's getting paid off, and so there's a ton of people who have used this scheme.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: It's a very common scheme used by the CCP, by drug cartels, by all sorts of people, and so what's happened?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: And it's almost impossible to spot.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: But Millersville Police Department said hey, you know, we can use the FinCEN tool to start spotting this.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Guess what happened.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Instead of supporting Millersville Police Department because they started to recognize what's going on and we're going to get to the bottom of it instead of supporting them, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation cut off their access to FinCEN and raided the home of these local cops.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: These are local cops fighting corruption and trying to stop child sex trafficking, and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is trying to cook up and make up crimes about these guys and cutting access to their tools.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Who are they trying to protect?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: about these guys and cutting access to their tools?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Who are they trying to protect?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: That's the question.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: How can, how can they have a right to go into a police officer's home like that, or anybody's home like that?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, did they?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: They have warrants for all this stuff?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: What would it?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: what did they do?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Sure they did, I'm sure they did.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: But let me ask you something what?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: was it what?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: What was the warrant for, do you know?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have to have a reason for a warrant it was it was?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it was garbage signed off by a random judge from a random place.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I mean it was an interesting thing.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: There are some peculiarities to that warrant, I will say.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: But what I can tell you about it is is remember something how do you, how do you, how does merrick garland get away with what he's done, with the justice department going after Donald Trump?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Right, if you're the government and if you're law enforcement and if you're a particularly the DOJ, you basically have blanket immunity from anything.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: You do Same on the state level with a lot of these agencies, it's very hard to go after a cop or a prosecutor or anybody else.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: So if you're a crooked cop or prosecutor, it's very difficult to go after a cop or a prosecutor or anybody else.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: So if you're a crooked cop or prosecutor, it's very difficult to deal with that.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So you know again now, if you're the kind of person who would protect a child sex predator, do you really think you'd have an issue with lying to a judge or getting a false arrest warrant or a false search warrant?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're protecting child sex predators.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Of course, this is like.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: This is kind of like saying you know, if we outlaw guns, no one will get murdered.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: So what if you're, if you're willing to shoot someone, you're not willing to own a gun illegally.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It's stupid.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And if you're, if you're, you know, if you're on the DOJ, if you're in the FBI, if you're in the and you're in the take and you're a crook, well what?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: You're not going to lie.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: If you're protecting child sex predators, you're not going to lie to get the right warrant.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: So the problem is and this isn't all agents I'm sure there's fine people in the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, there's fine people in the FBI, there's fine people all over the place, but it only takes a few crooks to really cause a problem.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: And that's what appears to have happened here.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know for sure, but it sure does look fishy to me.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Instead of saying thank you for sniffing out these child sex predators, how can we help?
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: They cut access to their investigatory tools and then they they, yeah Raid the guy's house.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Did they go into the sheriff's house, tom?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Is that who they went into?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Do we know house?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, tom, is that who they went into?
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Do we know it was?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: No, it's from the local police department, the chief.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: So did they take some of these files and stuff that?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, they did yeah, they took a ton of it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Wow, I mean enough.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Do you think to, to, to, to push that case down where they?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: They don't have the evidence anymore now for the case, or?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, did they ruin the case?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Do we know?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Yet I know things that I can't talk about publicly yeah because I want to help these guys in any way that I can yeah, so you know we, we can disclose.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Certainly we can't disclose everything yeah, so the?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the idea behind it, though, is that there are forces really arrayed against I.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: This is a good versus evil battle, and we're seeing this hydra break out all across the world right now.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Tom, yeah, let me ask you this, as you're exposing this right personally, and we're seeing the amount of corruption you know, at some point you almost want to throw up your arms.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, actually, the more I learn, the more I just go.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: You know this is going to take a divine intervention at this point.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Now, look, we're all called to do what we can do, but I think the only way for me and I'm going to ask you the same thing the only way that I can keep up my spirits is to know that, at the end of the day, you know this is going to take a divine intervention, for sure, and we're just called to stand up for what is right, protect our families, our neighborhoods, our local, and then fight the battle that we've been given, but we have to keep our spirits up, and the only way you do that, I think, is to know that God also has a force out there, and there are good people out there, and I think that the to know that God also has a force out there and there are good people out there and I think that the more people that stand up and do their part, do their small part, whatever that is, do we challenge them, tom, because this is a battle that's going to need a lot of people to stand up.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah Well, I mean, all it takes for evil to triumph is good men to do nothing right.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: The most important part of the story that that we started with.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: You know my, my kind of origin in this covid thing wasn't that I was the best or the brightest.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It was that I was willing to, to have the courage to stand, and it took some courage I will tell you there were.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: There were times I testified in places and did things and you know, I mean hell, I'd never testified in front of, you know Congress, or I'd never testified in you know some of these state houses, and I'd never.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I mean I certainly I hadn't been in front of the Sixth Circuit, or you know, I mean it's just craziness all over the place.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And just while you're saying that, I saw clips of you doing that video clips and I thought how is he doing all this?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Because I knew, after I talked to you that one time I knew that this wasn't all your background.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: This is a lot of new information, a lot of new approaches, a lot of new courts, and I wondered myself how is he doing this?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's an amazing amount of work you did.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about the workload you took on, it was terrifying to be honest, it was an act of God that I was able to
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: survive it, let alone do as well as we did.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: But you've got to understand, though, the most important thing that we did, really, it wasn't, I mean, getting rid of masks, getting rid of vaccine mandates and some of these things.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Obviously that's important, but the most important thing that we did was we inspired others to find their courage, and that has to be the same everywhere.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I still live in Fremont, ohio, a town of 12,000 people.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I'm still, I record every day, this is my office in my house.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I don't go to a you know big, palatial office building.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I don't have, you know, eight secretaries waiting, you know, waiting on me and take care of my whims.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: You know I got a couple of people that work for me.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: They live in different parts of the country.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: They're great, they're heroes, they're wonderful people, but, at the end of the day, I'm a nobody from Ohio.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I'm struggling, I'm fighting, hoping I got food you know, money for food at the end of the week, hoping that I got money.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: For you know, whatever we got to do, the thing isn't, you know, am I capable of saving the world or anything like that.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: The thing is, am I willing to put it on the line to get it done and that's really the key and that's what people need to do.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, they got to stand.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not a get rich quick scheme when you stand for the truth In fact it's the opposite, isn't it Tom?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It's the opposite when I think of all the money from George Soros and the Gates Foundations and the.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Rockefellers and the Ford Foundations, all the money arrayed against the average American who is starting to wake up and look around it can be overwhelming.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I think about you know.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Once Samuel 8 in the Bible, god said hey, you know, take me out, that's okay, give the people what they want, but they're going to be enslaved, you know, by kings and rulers and blah, blah, blah.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Right, and I think that's what we're finding out.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: We're finding out that there's a ruling class that really wants to take away our liberties and our freedoms.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, property rights all those things are being undermined.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: How are you going to keep in the fight, tom?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I know you work out.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I know you're trying to give us some pointers on what to do.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Look we.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: You going to keep in the in the in the fight, tom.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I know you work out, I know you're trying to get.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Give us some pointers on, on, on what to do.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Look at, we're going to sit.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: We're going to, we're going to try to support you here.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to make an appeal to do that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I've got the.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I've got the show notes here.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: People know that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Listen to my show.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I don't do that very often to this degree, going to ask other people to do it as well, because, again, when you have the courage, we need to be behind that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: That's a small thing we can do, if, if, if, if we can and we're not looking for a lot, maybe small monthly donations, something like that helps out a lot.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Uh, in the meantime, tom, you're working out uh, you know how, how you stay, stay, staying strong spiritually, mentally, Cause I know if you want to.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's too personal, but you mentioned about your wife.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I want us to keep her in our purse.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: What's your wife's name?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: My wife's name is Annie and yeah, she's actually on Twitter now.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: She got into that and is doing some social media.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I mean she's getting started in it, but she's helping with our charity ForGodFamily countryorg, for GFCorg and yeah, she's doing.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: She's doing real well with it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I mean we're I think we're going to beat it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: You know I've been.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: That's another fight that I've taken is finding, you know, effective, safe, you know curative treatments for cancer.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: You know there's the cancer industry is as corrupt as the covid industry yes, yes, it is, yes, I do work out, I go, I'm, uh, I'm, you know, running or lifting or boxing or fighting, you know six, seven days a week.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I try and make it, you know, at least an hour a day because it's it's the only thing that I do, and it is not uncommon, monday through friday, for my work days to be 16 or more hours.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: And I mean 16 or more hours excluding lunch, excluding bathroom, I mean 16 or more hours in this chair on it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: So you know, there's times.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: This morning I fell asleep at about 6 am.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I was back up at 8.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: And that's not an uncommon thing.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, weekends we try and keep it to.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: You know, 8 to 12 hours a day.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: If I can Depends on the day and the weekend and whether I'm traveling.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I got to be a dad, I got to be a husband.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I got to take care of a wife who's fighting cancer.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: So I mean I'm going to tell you something and we started a ministry show.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I'm helping a guy get a ministry go.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: God side, the kingdom fight the center and same ministry.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: We got that going.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: We're working on, of course.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: We've got the Tom Renz show that runs five days a week.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: We've got the full-time law.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: We're working on a number of projects.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I mean there's not a whole lot more hours in the day.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty crazy, but, and you know, I mean listen you do this show.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: You know how much time a show takes.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: It's not just jump on there for 50 minutes and call it a day, you know.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: So we're doing five days a week hour long show.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: We're doing the other, the ministry show, two days a week.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: We're helping to promote.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: We've got the Freedom Brigades on TomRunscom where we ask people to get involved and be active.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: We've got basically, you know, I give everything that I have.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Last night I took a couple hours away and helped my son, watched my son play a soccer game and when we got back I had to jump into work right away and he needed some help on homework.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: So at about one this morning I wrote out instructions and laid out all the details for how to do some math homework for him.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: So I put together a document for my son this morning because, he is having some trouble and yeah, but I mean, you just find a way to do it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I always get a boot out of people say, well, I'd like to do more, but I'm just so busy yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what follow me for a day, brother, and then tell me you're busy that's right.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: So here's the challenge to people listening you you heard, tom, you know.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Get involved.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Get involved.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: You know, stand up.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Find a grassroots organization, support TomRenz.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Go to TomRenzcom.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Support a grassroots organization, you know.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Find out.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: If nothing else, go to your local school board, library board meetings.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Make sure your kids are not getting indoctrinated with this crazy stuff.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: And then make sure that you're creating an environment at home, you know, with a God-centered environment, environment because your poor kids and your family, all of us are getting attacked spiritually.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: This is a spiritual warfare, tom.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot describe the corruption you're talking about and I know it to be real all over the world and if you don't put this in the lens of a spiritual warfare, you cannot rationally make sense of this.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: You can't rationally make sense of why we would take children right and traffic them, why we would force vaccines that we know are not effective either at preventing or preventing the disease itself or the transmission of this disease that came, with real harms to young people again, you know.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: You know these young people with a myocarditis and all other things.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: This is really something right.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: You know the vaccines themselves, childhood vaccines.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: You know Robert Kennedy's doing some good work on that too.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Cancer treatments, like you said.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of money being made and all this stuff and there's a lot of battle, so keep up your keep up the good work.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Tom, thank you so much for being on the show, thanks for being with us and and god bless you and again, when I sat down across you over dinner, I realized, wow, this is a, this is a man with a, with a lion's heart, and he's gonna.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: He's gonna fight the good fight to the end, brother.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: So so, thank you so much, tom.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: It's my honor.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I appreciate all the kind words, jack.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I hope people will support your show.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Listen, we've got to support guys like Jack.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Guys like Jack are out there telling the truth.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: They're doing their part.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: We need more people doing like this, but at the very least, we need you supporting shows like this.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: So please make sure you're supporting Jack as well.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Hey like this, so please make sure you're supporting Jack as well.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, thank you, tom.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, god bless you.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Take a little break.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Get some fresh air, will you please, before you go on to the next project.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I might get a bathroom break in the next hour or so.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Nice, nice, nice, I'm going to join you there.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I've been hot boxing some coffee.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Hey, god bless you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks, tom, and we're going to keep Andy in our purse too.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Bye-bye.