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Episode Two Hundred Eighty One: Space Alien Anal Probes · The Death Of Journalism

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two hundred and eighty one of the
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  Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcasts. My name is John Zigler. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host on today's show. Yes, we'll do yet another
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  Speaker 1: update on the never Ending Epstein Insanity. We'll also take
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  Speaker 1: a look at the woke Winter Olympics, Nancy Guthrie is
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  Speaker 1: somehow still missing, Gavin Newsom's wife, attacks the already compliant
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  Speaker 1: news media, and a very extensive and wide ranging interview
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  Speaker 1: with former longtime Democrat congressman and former John Zigler TV
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  Speaker 1: co host John Yarmouth. We begin this episode of the
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  Speaker 1: podcast with a quick programming note for travel considerations. I
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  Speaker 1: am taping this podcast a little over a day earlier
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  Speaker 1: than normal, so please keep that in mind. If something
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  Speaker 1: has happened from Tuesday on, it is not going to
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  Speaker 1: be part of this podcast. We'll get to it the
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  Speaker 1: following week. But there's so much to talk about before
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  Speaker 1: we get to an interview with John Yarmouth, which you
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  Speaker 1: definitely want to stick around for. Unfortunately, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we have to start once again with the never ending
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Insanity. This truly is the dumbest story of all time,
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  Speaker 1: and yet it keeps somehow getting dumber. And dumber. Every
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  Speaker 1: time I think we have reached peak stupidity, we exceed it,
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  Speaker 1: and we may not have stopped exceeding peak stupidity. There's
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  Speaker 1: no end in sight. There is a perfect storm of
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  Speaker 1: bullshit that is encompassing this entire narrative, and it seems
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  Speaker 1: to be an unstoppable machine, even though there's nothing actually
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  Speaker 1: fueling it other than crap. There's no actual real fuel,
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  Speaker 1: there's no truth behind it, or almost no truth behind it.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a congressional hearing where things really got
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  Speaker 1: completely out of control. And I don't care really what
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  Speaker 1: your political persuasion is, what your opinion is on this story.
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  Speaker 1: It was embarrassing to watch Pam Bondi before a House
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  Speaker 1: committee on her handling of the Epstein files. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not really blaming her, although I didn't like some of
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  Speaker 1: the ways that she handled the attacks against her. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just talking about the entire situation, the entire episode, the
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  Speaker 1: entire scene was just embarrassing. I mean, here we are
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  Speaker 1: almost at our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the
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  Speaker 1: founding of our country, and I'm thinking, look, the founders
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  Speaker 1: were not perfect, and you know, they liked to get
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  Speaker 1: at it, but they had to be if they were
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  Speaker 1: still around the day, humiliated by what has become of
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  Speaker 1: this country based upon the utter ridiculousness that transpired at
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  Speaker 1: this congressional hearing. I'm only going to play one clip
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  Speaker 1: from the hearing itself. It'll kind of be emblematic of
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  Speaker 1: the shit show that was the entire thing. It's probably
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  Speaker 1: the clip that went the most viral, and for rational reasons.
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  Speaker 1: It's Democrat Congressman Ted Lu, who I have mentioned and
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  Speaker 1: mocked before on this podcast. In fact, I've even speculated
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  Speaker 1: is Lou really this dumb or is he lying about
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  Speaker 1: what he truly thinks the Epstein files means, I mean
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  Speaker 1: ted Lu has made statements even before this congressional hearing
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  Speaker 1: indicating that he really truly believes that Donald Trump was
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  Speaker 1: raping babies and that there were all sorts of just
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  Speaker 1: absolutely batshit crazy space alien anal probe stories that ted
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  Speaker 1: Lu seemed to believe, and I was not convinced that
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  Speaker 1: he truly believed it until this interaction with Pam Bondy.
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  Speaker 1: Based upon the emotion in his voice, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: so dumb. He really does not understand the very simple
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  Speaker 1: explanation for how these crazy stories got into the Epstein
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  Speaker 1: files about Donald Trump. I mean, this is not difficult
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  Speaker 1: cult yet I see this on social media constantly, where
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  Speaker 1: Trump haters, and this is where I think I prove
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  Speaker 1: once and for all, I do not have Trump de
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  Speaker 1: rangement syndrome. If I had Trump arrangement syndrome, I would
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  Speaker 1: not be one of Donald Trump's most vocal defenders on
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  Speaker 1: this story. Frankly, I think I've done a better job.
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  Speaker 1: Not that people are listening to me in large numbers,
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  Speaker 1: but I think I've done a better job substantively in
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  Speaker 1: defending him than anybody else has, for reasons that will
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  Speaker 1: become apparent in just a little bit. But the reality
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  Speaker 1: is that almost all of these bullshit stories, these space
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  Speaker 1: alien antal probe stories that are in the Epstein files
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  Speaker 1: come about at a very specific time period when Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump is president of the United States. It's twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: This story explodes because Epstein kills himself, and no one
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  Speaker 1: seems to want to believe that he killed himself, so
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories are flying all over the place. He's not
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  Speaker 1: just president, he's a highly controversial president. He's a president
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  Speaker 1: that liberals still think might be a Russian asset and
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  Speaker 1: therefore desperately one amount of office. He's in the process
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  Speaker 1: of starting to run for re election, and every crack
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  Speaker 1: pot and whack job in the world is hallucinating or
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  Speaker 1: maybe just making shit up in wanting to throw something
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  Speaker 1: against the wall that will finally stick against Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: It is not surprising at all, not even the least
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  Speaker 1: bit surprising. I believe I told you this was going
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  Speaker 1: to be the case before the files were fully released
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  Speaker 1: and mostly unredacted. It was always obvious this happens in
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  Speaker 1: every case. Every case doesn't have to be as high
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  Speaker 1: profile as Epstein. I talk all the time about how
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  Speaker 1: my wife and I watch date lines in twenty twenties,
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  Speaker 1: and in semi high profile cases cases that even just
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  Speaker 1: were big time media events locally. One of the worst
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  Speaker 1: things that the authorities can do it hampers the investigation
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  Speaker 1: almost every single time, is to open up some sort
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  Speaker 1: of a tip line and invite people to provide their information. One,
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  Speaker 1: it takes up enormous amounts of resources, but two, the
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  Speaker 1: whack jobs come out of the woodwork for all sorts
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  Speaker 1: of reasons and then put that on steroids. When it's
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump running for re election, And yet ted lew
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  Speaker 1: in his questioning of Pam Bondy, the Attorney General of
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  Speaker 1: the United States, seems to truly believe this bullshit, and
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  Speaker 1: he believes that there's evidence that Donald Trump committed multiple
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  Speaker 1: horrible crimes. And Pam Bondi, you know, in her mind,
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  Speaker 1: the number one thing for her is to just attack, attack, attack.
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  Speaker 1: She knows her boss, her audience is one person. It's
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, it's Beesh's wrong. Doesn't matter what you do,
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  Speaker 1: do not back down. Be strong. If you are attacked,
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  Speaker 1: attack back, doesn't matter what the substance is, doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: whether there's a better way to do it. That's her
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  Speaker 1: strategy in order to keep her job. And so in
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  Speaker 1: that context, here was ted Lu trying to make the
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  Speaker 1: argument that Pam Bondi perjured herself because she claimed under
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  Speaker 1: oath that Donald Trump did not commit a crime. And
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  Speaker 1: there's no evidence that Donald Trump committed a crime in
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  Speaker 1: the Epstein files, which I wholeheartedly believe is a true statement.
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  Speaker 1: There is no evidence whatsoever in the Epstein files indicating
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  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump committed a sex crime. None. Zero. It's
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  Speaker 1: not close. But don't tell that to Tedlu because he
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  Speaker 1: thinks the evidence is somehow so overwhelming that pambody has
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  Speaker 1: committed perjury for stating the obvious. And here's the exchange
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  Speaker 1: that ensued.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump attended various parties with Jeffrey Epstein. I want
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  Speaker 2: to know whether any underage girls at that party or
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  Speaker 2: at any party that Trump attended with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: This is so ridiculous and that they are trying to deflect.
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  Speaker 1: From all the.
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  Speaker 3: Great things Donald Trump has done. There is no evidence
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  Speaker 3: that Donald Trump has committed a crime. Everyone knows that
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  Speaker 3: this has been the most transparent presidency.
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  Speaker 2: He's the one, got your answer.
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  Speaker 1: Legislation. This is belongs to the gentleman from California.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to put up another document from a
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  Speaker 2: witness who called the FBI's National Threat Operations Center because
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  Speaker 2: I believe just lied under oath.
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  Speaker 1: There is ample evidence into epstein phone. Don't you ever accuse.
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  Speaker 2: Me of a I believe you just lied under oath.
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  Speaker 2: And this is all on videotape. You said there's no
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  Speaker 2: events or crime. I'm showing you. Here is a witness
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  Speaker 2: statement who called into the fi's Threat Operations Center. He
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  Speaker 2: drove Donald Trump around in Limo. He overheard what Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump said to Jeffrey on his cell phone, he was
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  Speaker 2: so angry he was gonna stop a limo and hurt
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And he met a girl who said she
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  Speaker 2: was raped by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. She later
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  Speaker 2: had her head blown off, and the officers at the
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  Speaker 2: scene said that could not have been suicide. No one,
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  Speaker 2: no one at the part of justice interviewed this witness.
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  Speaker 2: You need to interview this witness immediately. Epstein should rot
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  Speaker 2: in hell, so should the men who patronize his operation.
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  Speaker 2: And as we say here today, there are over one
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  Speaker 2: thousand sex trafficking victims and you have not held a
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  Speaker 2: single man accountable.
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  Speaker 1: Shame on you.
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  Speaker 2: If you had any decency, you would resign right after.
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  Speaker 1: This here conclusive, gentleman has expired. May I respond, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you respond. I did not ask.
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  Speaker 3: I did not ask a crime in California. He does
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  Speaker 3: not want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I did not ask a crime. I did not ask
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  Speaker 1: a question, and he will be in order now. Substantively.
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  Speaker 1: I did not like Pam Bondi's response because I think
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of low hanging fruit left on
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  Speaker 1: the tree. Because if I was in that situation, I
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  Speaker 1: would have done several things with Ted Lou. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: would have explained the time frame and why the whack
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  Speaker 1: jobs were incentivized to make up stories. That's number one.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing I would say to Ted Lou
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  Speaker 1: about that crazy story that I don't believe there's any
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  Speaker 1: validity too. By the way, there's no names, there's no dates,
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  Speaker 1: there's no places, there's nothing to it, which is why
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  Speaker 1: it didn't result any charges. I would have asked him, So,
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  Speaker 1: why did no one sue Donald Trump related to the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein case? Congressman Lou, why did that not happen. He's
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  Speaker 1: the most famous person in the world. He's got lots
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  Speaker 1: of money. Every attorney worth their salt would take a
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  Speaker 1: case pro bono to go after the President the United States.
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  Speaker 1: He's been falsely accused many times in civil cases. Why
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  Speaker 1: not one lawsuit related to the Epstein case. I would
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  Speaker 1: also then have added, mister Lou, has it ever occurred
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  Speaker 1: to you that if Epstein had knowledge and proof of
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  Speaker 1: crimes committed by the President of the United States when
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  Speaker 1: he was facing federal charges confined in a federal prison
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  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, when Donald Trumps president, a guy he knew,
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  Speaker 1: and if he really had blackmail information on him, why
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  Speaker 1: in the world would Epstein have ever killed himself. Now
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  Speaker 1: there's a good chance that Loop probably would have said
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe he killed himself, which in a logical
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  Speaker 1: world would be completely discredited. But that's unfortunately the perfect
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  Speaker 1: storm of this completely bullshit case, because that's the escape
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  Speaker 1: valve for everybody. Even though there's no chance that happened,
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  Speaker 1: the evidence of his suicide is overwhelming. For him not
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  Speaker 1: to have committed suicide. Bill Barr would have had to
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  Speaker 1: have lied and been part of a cover up, led
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  Speaker 1: a cover up. Donald Trump would have to have lied
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  Speaker 1: and been part of a cover up. Pam Bondi would
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  Speaker 1: have to be lying and be part of a cover up.
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  Speaker 1: Cash Patel would have to be lying and be part
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  Speaker 1: of a cover up. Dan Bongino would have to be
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  Speaker 1: lying and part of a cover up. Not to mention,
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  Speaker 1: the conspiracy would be massive, massive. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 1: to take a look at the videos that they do
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  Speaker 1: have inside the prison during the time period that he
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  Speaker 1: killed himself. Folks, the people that were on duty that
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  Speaker 1: night were not part of some sort of grand conspiracy.
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  Speaker 1: They were worried about where they were getting their next donut. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's just so fucking ridiculous, the whole idea. But then
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  Speaker 1: I would have added to Congressman Lou I would have said,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so no lawsuits. Epstein, for some reason, kills himself.
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  Speaker 1: But what about the Biden DOJ. The Biden DOJ was
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  Speaker 1: willing to go after Donald Trump on everything. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: say a word about this, not a word. And it's
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  Speaker 1: got to be frustrating as hell for the Trump people
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  Speaker 1: to have opened up this Pandora's box, this can of worms.
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  Speaker 1: And look, part of me, I'm not having a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sympathy for what the Trump administration is enduring. Because
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  Speaker 1: when you live by conspiracy, you die by conspiracy. I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And that's Donald Trump. He is his career, He add
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  Speaker 1: his political career based upon conspiracies. It began with the
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  Speaker 1: whole birth certificate bullshit involving Barack Obama. That was a
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  Speaker 1: massive crap conspiracy theory. That's how he became strong enough
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  Speaker 1: within what is now known as Macca for him to
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  Speaker 1: win the twenty sixteen Republican presidential nomination. And that's just
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  Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Trump
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  Speaker 1: and conspiracies. But on this conspiracy in particular, Trump has
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  Speaker 1: gotta be filming, because here they release as many of
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  Speaker 1: these goddamn files as they possibly can't. I believe in
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  Speaker 1: a very imperfect way, but it was a herculean task.
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  Speaker 1: The Biden administration never did anything, never said a word
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  Speaker 1: about it, never released one piece of paper. There's some
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  Speaker 1: people now trying to come up with an explanation for that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Gallaid Maxwell was still appealing bull crap, bull crap. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that might have some influence over documents directly related
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  Speaker 1: to her court case, but that is a minuscule amount
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  Speaker 1: of these so called Epstein files. People are as desperate
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  Speaker 1: for any excuse to hold on to their crazy narrative,
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that the Biden DOJ did nothing is
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  Speaker 1: really the smoking gun, especially with regard to Trump, that
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing here and ted lew is completely lost his mind.
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  Speaker 1: He must be an idiot, He must be an idiot
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  Speaker 1: in order to actually believe that these stories could even
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  Speaker 1: plausibly be true with absolutely no specifics, no evidence, no corroboration,
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  Speaker 1: no details, no nothing. There's space alien antal probe stories.
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  Speaker 1: And when it came to the pambinding testimony. There was
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  Speaker 1: a viral moment that really tells you everything about where
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  Speaker 1: we are in this country with regard to how broken
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  Speaker 1: the narrative is, how broken the public dial is, and
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  Speaker 1: how utterly impossible it is for the truth to ever
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  Speaker 1: get out regarding sex abuse claims. I mean, I have
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  Speaker 1: lived this for far too long. I know you know
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  Speaker 1: already because of the whole Penn State Joe Paternal Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Sandusky case. But I mean, this is deja vous all
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  Speaker 1: over again in so many ways, and you could write
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  Speaker 1: a book about this one little thing that happened. So
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  Speaker 1: there was a moment when those in the gallery were
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  Speaker 1: asked by a Democratic congressman to raise their hand if
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  Speaker 1: they're a victim of Epstein who has never been spoken
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  Speaker 1: to by the Attorney General's office. As if the Attorney
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  Speaker 1: General's office has nothing better to do than to investigate
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  Speaker 1: the case of a guy who hired a lot of prostitutes,
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  Speaker 1: some of whom were under age, and who killed himself
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  Speaker 1: in prison over six years ago. This should not, in
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  Speaker 1: a rational world, be a high priority. But this photograph
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  Speaker 1: was taken, and I'm sure the person that up the photograph,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're probably gonna be nominated for a Pulitzer
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  Speaker 1: because to liberals, this was very, very tittilating because behind
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  Speaker 1: Pam Bondy, as he's trying to ignore this, there were
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  Speaker 1: seven hands that were raised in the gallery. This is
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  Speaker 1: a very small gallery right behind Pam Bondy, and there
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  Speaker 1: were seven hands that were raised, indicating that the Attorney
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  Speaker 1: General's office has never spoken to me an Epstein survivor.
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  Speaker 1: And thank goodness for Michael Tracy, who we had on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, even though it went sideways, and he and
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  Speaker 1: I have had very very little communication since then because
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  Speaker 1: I think I heard his feelings by proving that he
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  Speaker 1: had no clue what he's talking about with regard to
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  Speaker 1: the issue of the suicide of Jeffrey Epstein. But I
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  Speaker 1: still respect his work. I still shared on social media
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  Speaker 1: all the time. He's done Yeoman's work on the details.
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  Speaker 1: He's very very good on the details. He's a terrible interview,
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  Speaker 1: but he's very very good on the details. And he
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  Speaker 1: took the photo and he numbered the hands one through seven,
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  Speaker 1: and then he created an image which he shared, which,
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  Speaker 1: thankfully for the contrarian position on this story, went pretty
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  Speaker 1: darn viral, and I think it opened up some eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Some people that have been wondering about this story because
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to bother with the names. But here
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  Speaker 1: one through seven is the description that Michael Tracy provided
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  Speaker 1: to provide some context for who these people were raising
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  Speaker 1: their hands in this viral photograph that was intended to
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  Speaker 1: make Pam Bondi look bad. Number one is a woman
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  Speaker 1: who claims she was sexually assaulted by Epstein in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety two at the age of twenty two, but did
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  Speaker 1: not realize she'd been victimized until twenty nineteen. What happens
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  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, Well, he kills himself. The story becomes huge,
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  Speaker 1: and it's clear that there's money on the table when
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  Speaker 1: she gave a ted talk and launched a consulting firm.
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  Speaker 1: That's Number one, Okay, not exactly a real solid accuser,
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  Speaker 1: especially not of child sex trafficking. Number two claims she
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  Speaker 1: was quote unquote groomed and quote unquote trafficked by Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Maxwell in two thousand and two at the age
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  Speaker 1: of twenty two, and did not realize she'd been victimized
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  Speaker 1: until you guessed it twenty nineteen, after watching a YouTube video.
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  Speaker 1: Number three, she claims she encountered Epstein and Maxwell in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four at the age of twenty one, but
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  Speaker 1: did not realize she had been trafficked quote unquote until
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  Speaker 1: you guessed it twenty nineteen, after she spent the preceding
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  Speaker 1: several decades in long term psychiatric facilities. Number four. She
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  Speaker 1: refuses to give specifics, but claims that she as an
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  Speaker 1: adult model when she was trafficked sometime in the early
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  Speaker 1: mid two thousands. So again, an adult model was trafficked
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  Speaker 1: sometime in the early mid two thousands, with no specifics.
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  Speaker 1: That was number four. Number five out of seven, she
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  Speaker 1: claims she was sexually abused in some nonspecific way when
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  Speaker 1: she was a twenty one year old model and accepted
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  Speaker 1: an invitation to go on a day trip to Epstein's island.
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  Speaker 1: Number six not an alleged victim, The sister in law
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  Speaker 1: of Virginia Geoffrey, the primary accuser of both Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and former Prince Andrew, the woman who really started this
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  Speaker 1: whole fiasco. Then Number seven not an alleged victim. Brother
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  Speaker 1: of Virginia Geoffrey. So of the seven people picked in
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  Speaker 1: this viral photo. There is not one person who even
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  Speaker 1: alleges to have been a victim of child sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: Not one comes even close. And you could probably make
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good argument that none of those people were
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  Speaker 1: actually abused by Jeffrey Epstein. It's possible a couple of
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  Speaker 1: them didn't even meet Jeffrey Epstein. They might be making
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the whole thing up. But the reality is that at best,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: at best, there is nobody who even comes close to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: making the allegation that is primary to the narrative. This
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be a massive child sex trafficking ring.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yet we can't find anybody that was actually a victim
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of a child sex trafficking ring. And this, I think
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: is starting to open some people's minds. I'm going to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: get back to the validity of the accusers of the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: survivors in a minute. But the biggest moment of the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: last week in the Epstein saga, at least what should
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have been the biggest moment. It should have been the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Aha moment. It should have been the oh look, there's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: an old man behind the curtain and no Wizard of
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Oz moment was when Democrat Rocanna, who has now become
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: buddy buddy with pseudo Republican former libertarian Congressman Thomas Massey.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They've been like Batman and Robin, trying to track down
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the bad guys on this. They went through the Epstein files,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the unredacted version, still looking for this list, still looking
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: for the list of perpetrators that they just know is there,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: like Linus in the Great Pumpkin Patch. They just know
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: it's there. They just gotta find it. And Rocanna thought
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that he did, and he went on the house floor
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and he referenced the name of the six men he believes,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: quote unquote, we're very likely implicated in Epstein's crimes. Now.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I referenced that phrase last week with great umbrage and outrage, like,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: what the fuck are you talking about? Very likely implicated?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: What the hell does that mean? That's not the standard
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: of anything. How is that even the role of a
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: US congressman. I mean, we're so far beyond the gravitational
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: pull of the rational Earth we can't even see the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Earth anymore from where we are out in orbit of insanity.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Well kind of thought he had the names. He finally
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: had six names. He's finally had a semblance of a list,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and he went on the house floor and dramatically named
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: them like the hero.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: That he is, and we learned that seventy to eighty
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: percent of the files are still redacted. In fact, there
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: were six wealthy powerful men that the DOJ hid for
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: no apparent reason. When Congressman Massey and I pointed this
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: out to the Department of Justice, they acknowledged their mistake,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: and now they have revealed the ideas speaker the six
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: powerful men. These men are Salvator Novora, Zorab, mikolads Leopig
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Leonor Nikola Kaputa, Sultan Ahmed bin Suliam, CEO of Dubaiports World,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and billionaire businessman Leslie Wexner, who was labeled as a
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: co conspirator by the FBI.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Well, for a moment there, the people who have been
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: promoting this narrative and believing in it and condemning those
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: who have been skeptical of it, thought that they finally
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: had some semblance of a list. And then like fifteen
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: minutes later, it all fell apart because it turns out
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: that four of the six names that kind of mentioned
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: had absolutely positively nothing to do with Epstein. Nothing. It
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was just a weird deal. I mean these files. People
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: don't understand so many things about this case, but one
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of them is they say there's millions and millions and
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: millions of files. I'll bet you a huge percentage don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: even relate to Epstein. They just somehow come under some
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: computer puts them under the umbrella. They touch, even indirectly,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: something related to Epstein. It's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and these four guys were all in some sort of
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: lineup that it was confirmed had absolutely zero to do
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein, which is why they were redacted. Their
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: naves are redacted. I mean, this is the redaction part
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of this also drives me crazy, and I've predicted this
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: from the beginning. I've always said they're getting a lot
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: of heat for not coming forward and not obeying the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: law when it comes to releasing these things. The redaction
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: process has put them in an impossible situation, and I've
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: been critical. I think they've redacted too many faces, Like
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: redacting the face of every single female in these photos
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: makes you look guilty no matter what you're doing. They've
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: done former Prince Andrew totally dirty on multiple occasions doing
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it that way. The only woman they don't redact or
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: face is Glainne Maxwell, So every picture looks sinister when
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you do that. But there were obviously going to be
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: completely innocent people whose names you would want to redact
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to try to save them from getting destroyed. Which is
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: why Trump was always against this these being released. Willie Nilly,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: why he called the whole thing a hoax. I think
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: he knew this was what was gonna happen, which is
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: why he told Marjorie Taylor Green that people were gonna
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: get hurt, and then she morphed that into and lied,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: saying my friends are gonna get hurt. There's still no
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: evidence of that whatsoever. So four of the six right
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: off the bat totally debunked. I mean, a situation where
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: people really ought to sue. I don't know what the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: legalities is, legalities are in this particular situation, but there
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: ought to be some accountability, and it's at least been acknowledged.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Connor himself sheepishly went on social media and acknowledged that
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: four of those six names had absolutely nothing to do
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: with Epstein. And then there's a fifth name, a guy
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the name of Leslie Wexner, who I've mentioned before, who
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I have an interest in because he's an Ohio State
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Athletics booster and he's connected to at least lose to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Jim Jordan and what I believe to be a completely
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: or almost completely bogus Ohio State wrestling scandal. And there
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: have been many people liberals who have tried and oh,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: by the way, the Ohio State Wrestling frauds, they smell
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: blood on this. They've been trying to reel in Wexner.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: They got nbcated into another story connecting Wexner to Epstein
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: so that maybe they can finally milk some serious money
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. I mean, these guys are scoundrels,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: these fraudsters from Ohio State Wrestling. And I've done a
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: lot of work on that case. I'm very confident saying
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that nobody knew that they were being sexually abused. By
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the way, if there wasn't a sexual abuse in that case,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: effectively there was consent involved because they were well above
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the age of consent that they were incentivised to consent
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: for the very bizarre reasons that they were doing so,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: mostly for drugs with a diminutive gay doctor. Anyway, without
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: getting too deeply into that story, I know his role
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: with regard to Jordan is completely innocent and non criminal,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and the fact that they're trying to use Epstein makes
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: me highly skeptical. Well, it turns out Wexter, and this
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: is extraordinary. Almost makes me wonder whether not Wexter paid
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: this guy off. But the primary plaintiffs' attorney for the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Epstein survivors has publicly stated unequivocally that they looked into
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Wexter and need absolutely nothing to do with any of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Epstein's crimes. So he's off the list. So that makes
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: them all for five over five with one more to go. Well,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the sixth person was the CEO of DP World and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: he resigned, and Thomas Massey took a victory lap on
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that as if somehow see what I did. I forced
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: this bad guy, this guy who was complicit in Epstein's crimes,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to resign his job. All, it's not as good as
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a a criminal charge, but at least there's some accountability.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: These are my words. But that's the implication. Well, let's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: look at this. First of all, DP World is a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: state owned company extremely sensitive to bad pr My guess is,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know this. The guy probably got a pretty
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: good golden parachute to resign because now that he's attached
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to Epstein, it's not helpful to the company. But what
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was the revelation that caused his resignation, Well, the Epstein
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: conspiracy nut jobs. They focused on the fact that in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: an email he had wanted to see some sort of
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: quote unquote torture video or had referenced watching a torture video,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and these idiots all presumed that that meant it was
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a torture video that was created by Epstein of children
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: being sexually torture. That's the only possible explanation for the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: ass except there was a very very public story involving
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: this whole situation and a torture video from like fifth sixteen,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: seventeen years ago, somewhere in that range that was very
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: well publicly known that had absolutely positively nothing, surprise, surprise,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein or his crimes. So yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: they got a scalp. Congratulations, nice job, everybody, Well done everybody,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: But it had absolutely nothing to do with Epstein's crimes.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: It's just the radioactivity, the toxicity of this story being
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: at basically unprecedented levels, and whatever it touches is bound
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: to die, even if you had absolutely nothing to do
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: with Epstein. And Thomas Massey has been, in my opinion,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the biggest disappointment here. I mean Marjorie Taylor Green and Mace,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Congresswoman Mace, and congress Woman Luna. I think these are
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: all not jobs, and I don't have a lot of
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: respect or high expectations for them. But Thomas Massey was
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: my favorite congress person, Republican, last Libertarian from a rural
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: county or area in Kentucky. He used to follow me
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. I just realized today he does not follow
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: me on Twitter anymore. I don't know when that happened,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: but I'm guessing it was probably because I have been
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: rather critical of him, which I think is very telling
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: that he would unfollow me, kind of a Megan Kelly
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: type move. Because you don't like someone's opinion, you unfollow him. Fine,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that's fine, more than his right to do that. But
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I did find that to be very interesting. But he
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: is no longer. I don't have a favorite congressman, but
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: it's not Thomas Massey. In my opinion, he has jumped
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: the shark, he has lost the plot, he has embarrassed himself.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: He is eating a witch hunt. He has become a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: drama queen, pretending that he is somehow in a situation
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: where his life might be in danger. And then when
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: when I criticized that, I had people online saying Johnny's joking,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: He's joking, No, no indication he was joking. And I'm
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: about to prove in a second that he was not joking,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: because he's made the statement on multiple mediums in various
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: different ways, never with a joke. By the way, now
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: he is also saying that criticism of him online is
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: being paid for, which shows he's on the right track.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, well, I wish I could get some
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: of that money. I'm not being paid to criticize him.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Who's paying? Can someone please tell me who's paying to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: criticize Thomas Massey in this witch hunt? I mean, this
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: is and what's so depressing is this is a guy
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: who has stood on principle many many times. And I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: actually think my theory on this, although this does not
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: explain everything, my theory on this is that a little
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: bit like James call me, Thomas Massey is in love
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: with his own virtue and his own intelligence, and he
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: does not believe he could have been duped on this.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: He is deeply, deeply invested in this situation. His political future,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: he acknowledges, is on the line. He cannot be wrong,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: he cannot admit that he was wrong. And we all
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: know that it's far easier to dupe somebody than to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: persuade them that they have been duped, especially when they're
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: deeply invested in not having been duped. But Thomas Massey
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: is really doing He's pretending to do the work of
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the good. I believe he's doing the work of the evil.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I think he's on the bad side here. I think
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: he is destroying innocent people's lives out of some desperate
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: attempt at political survival. Now that he's been kicked out
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: of MAGA and has to run in a Republican primary
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: without any MAGA support, at least not Donald Trump's support.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Now I honestly do not know. I don't know how
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: he'll fare. My guess is that if he wins the primary,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: he'll probably win. But that's not even a certainty because
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I can certainly see a situation where he's become so
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: radioactive to MAGA where he pulls out the primary and
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: even though he's in a safe Republican district that the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: MAGA world decides not to vote for him. Who knows.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: But the point is he clearly is acting very very desperately.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: And here is a clip to give you a sense
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: that I'm not lying when I say he is not
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: joking about this idea that what he's doing is so
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: dangerous that his life might be in danger. Here he
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: was doing a podcast interview where he starts talking about
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and then starts going into his drama queen act,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: claiming that lots of people might want him dead.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: And ignored the Epstein files and called them a hoax.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: But I'm not willing to do that. You know, I've
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: met with the survivors. This is personal to me now,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: and so you know, it's true that my political career
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: is on the line, my political life, but my own
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: health and well being could very well be too.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I've upset a lot.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Of billionaires who obviously aren't of high moral character and
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: have done some really shady stuff.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Folks, Nobody wants Thomas Massey dead. Nobody's gonna kill Thomas Massey.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Nobody has been killed in this case. Epstein wasn't killed,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Geoffrey wasn't killed. They killed themselves. And even though you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: whenever the conspiracy nuts need to get out of a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: corner of this maze that they've built for themselves, they'll
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: claim that Epstein was murdered or Gioffrey was was somehow murdered,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: which is it's just absurd. I mean, if you're gonna
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: kill Geoffrey, you would have killed her ten years ago
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: at least. I mean, she's done all the damage she
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: was gonna do. She killed herself just before her book
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: came out last year, which isn't highly highly suspicious, but
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: no one wants to talk or think about that. Look,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the great irony of this idea that Massey now wants
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: people to believe that somehow his life could be in danger.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: This is again him in love with his own virtue,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: is that he's now even claiming that he himself not
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: only doesn't know whether or not Epstein killed himself, he
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't even know if Epstein is actually dead. He has
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: claimed that we can't find the body, we don't know
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: that he's dead. I mean, this is this is just
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: looney tune stuff. He has lost his mind or he's lying.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure which he's more intelligent
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: than Ted Lew. But you know this, I guess this
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: is what happens when people are desperate to maintain their
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: power and their relevance, and when you're facing the possibility
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that your career might be over. Weird things happen, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it's it's really depressing because this is the last libertarian
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: congressman in the US House Representatives, and he's he is
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: not a good guy anymore. He's actually a bad guy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: He's leading a witch hunt and a lot of people
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: are being greatly harmed by it without any justification. Now,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I've mentioned many times that Virginia Gioffrey is, in my opinion,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a fraud. I mean, the evidence that she's fraud is overwhelming.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: She's at the heart of this whole case. I mean
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: she was forced to recant a very very serious allegation
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: against Alan Dershowitz. I mean the fact that Alan Dershowitz
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: has basically had his nuts. I don't know if they've
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: been cut off, but they're they're in some sort of
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a bag because he doesn't feel like he's capable of
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: telling the full truth about this whole situation. He got
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit pissed off when Moore came out in
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files about her allegations against him. But it
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: now turns out that she accused Alan Dershowitz of having
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: sex of some sort with her six times, six times,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and then when he proved that that wasn't possible, she
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: was forced to claim that it was a misunderstanding or
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a misidentification, even though we've never heard of anybody that
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: can remotely come close to the description of Alan Dershowitz.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: He's literally one of a kind. So she lied and
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: got caught, see, because she's not used to people pushing
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: back and being able to prove their own innocence, like
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Andrew was completely besides, you know, out of out of sorts,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: out of his bubble, like a zoo animal in the wild.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: He got eaten alive. And she made a lot of
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: money because of that whole situation. But she has lied constantly,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and I believe she faked the bus accident at the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: beginning of last year. And I believe she killed herself,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: probably because she was afraid about the book coming out.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's Akam's razor. If you kill yourself just
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: before a book's coming out, the book release probably had
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: something to do with your killing yourself, especially when you're
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: rich and you're famous and people love you, the media
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: loves you. I mean, look, people get depressed, and the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: mental illness. She was abused apparently, it appears to be
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a fact that she was badly abused as a child,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and people, I think wrongly presume, well, that's why she
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: keeps getting abused. No, that's why she keeps lying about
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: being abused. She's nuts. It's not all her fault. I
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: have sympathy for her, But almost all of this has
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: been based, at least in part, and certainly the narrative
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: has been based on the world of a lunatic who
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: has been proven to have lied many many times. But
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: she's not the only accuser or quote unquote survivor of
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein that has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. And as
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I said, there's been some semblance of the truth of
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: this story starting to get a little bit of traction,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: at least online, not in the mainstream news media. But
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to see some fairly major commentators go, Hmmm,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: why are they giving a list these survivors Like Clay Travis,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I think is always an interesting case. I've talked about
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: him a lot conservative commentator, owner of out Kick, legedly conservative,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: although he's not really a conservative. He's a two plus
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: two equals four guy. He frustrates me because sometimes he
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: can be fairly smart. I mean, I unfortunately have never
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: had a conversation with him about Penn State, Joe Paternal,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Jeryson Dusky. He refuses to talk to me, even though
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: his boss, an old friend of mine, asked him to.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: He's completely invested in the fairy tale there. I'm positive
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: if I was given enough time with him, I'd be
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: able to convince him if he was open minded enough,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: because I know the way he thinks, and it's been
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: funny and interesting to see him inching closer to starting
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to call bullshit on these accusers because the accuser narrative
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. And a lot of these survivors
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: are starting to become a little too comfortable talking publicly.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: You know, for a while, there was at least some shyness,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: some hesitancy, but now there's too much attention, there's too
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: much of a hurricane win at their back. There's too
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: much potentially more money at stake here, and let's face it,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, to get yourself in this situation, assuming there's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: any truth to your story at all, You've got to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: be at least a little bit of an attention whore.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's how you've got in this spot to
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: begin with. So you're already prone to being the type
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: of person that's gonna actually love being in the spotlight
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and love, you know, playing the victim and having people
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: have sympathy for you. And also, which I always say
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: is one of the biggest factors in all these cases,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you get when you become an accuser or a victim
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: in a case like this, all your past mistakes in
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: life are erased, all of them, they're gone, you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: anything that's happened after you were allegedly abused. You now
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: have a built in excuse, which is one of the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: things that human beings want more than anything, especially in
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: this day and age. They want to be a victim,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: but they want to have an excuse for their own
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: fuck ups. And part of the narrative that has gone
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit viral with regard to these survivors and
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the contrarian view that just starting to get a little
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: bit of traction. You can't get it into the mainstream
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: because the mainstream media is it's not in their DNA
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to question any sex abuse accuser at all, especially not
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: in a case with this much time toxicity. But online
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and some medium range influencers that type of thing, people
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: are starting to least ask questions, especially when there was
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: a resurfaced interview from Inside Edition back in twenty fifteen.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: This is so classic, and this is if you're a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: listener to with the benefit of hindsight about the Sandusky case,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be very, very reminiscent, because this is amazing.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Now we're not going to play the two full clips,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: and this is gonna play the first clip. There's two
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: clips that were put together that went viral on x.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: The first is an interview from a quote unquote Epstein's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: survivor in twenty fifteen, again eleven years ago, well before
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Epstein killed himself in twenty nineteen. This is a woman
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you're about to hear. A story by Jim Murray from
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Inside Edition does a full feature on this woman and
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: her incredibly benign claims where she is clearly agreeing to
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: do an interview. She's very with it, she's very confident.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: She's not being restricted in any way. There's no hesitancy.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: She even jokes a little bit in the story about
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: her very very small role in how she was never
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: remotely sexually abused. Regarding the entire Epstein matter that was
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, I want you to listen to this
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: story from twenty fifteen knowing that this person, this person
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: now refers to them atself as an Epstein survivor and
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: claims now that Epstein repeatedly abused her that she has
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: severe PTSD. There's that phrase PTSD. Whenever I see PTSD,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I know almost with certainty that the story is bullshit
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: because PTSD has become the substitute for repressed memory therapy,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: which is completely bullshit, not even allowed in most courtrooms.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: And what this really is is it's an excuse for
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: why you didn't come up with this lie earlier. So
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: it's PTSD. That's not even the way PTSD works, even
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: if it was real. But I know that PTSD is
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: now a synonym, a more politically correct synonym for repressed
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: memory therapy. And oh, by the way, she also claims
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: in her recent version of the story, now that she's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: on the circuit, that Epstein bragged about being friends with Trump,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: which may have actually happened, but The reason why she's
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: adding that now is because she's trying to appeal to
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the media and to a certain audience. But keep in mind,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: this is a woman who apparently was paid a lot
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: of money in settlements, a couple million dollars I believe
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: now says Epstein repeatedly abused her. She's got severe PTSD.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: But here was her doing a feature with Inside Edition
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and Jim Murray. Just over ten years ago.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: She was the air hostess on board the notorious Lolita Express,
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: the billionaire's private jet at the center of a sex
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: scandal making lurid headlines across the world. Sleazy Wall Street
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: tycoon Jeffrey Epstein used the Lolita Express to ferry a
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: bevy of beautiful young women. Among the passengers former President
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: Bill Clinton and Britain's Prince Andrew.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: On almost every trip that I did go on, the
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: worry young girls around.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: In this Inside Edition exclusive, Chantey Davies takes us inside
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: the secret world of lo Lolita Express, named for the
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: controversial book and movie about a professor's infatuation with.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: An underage girl.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: Chantey made several trips on Jeffrey Epstein's infamous Lolita Express.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: She says she was one of several young, attractive women
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: hired to travel around the world giving massages or yoga
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: instruction to Epstein at his rich and powerful friends. When
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: Chante was hired, she was a struggling twenty two year
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: old actress. She once played a lingerie model in a
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: movie called Exposed. These designs are really great. Chantey worked
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: as a massuse, but says she never had sex with Epstein.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: Did you ever think that maybe more was going on
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: than simple massages?
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Looking back?
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Of course, was.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: There a bed on the airplane? Actually? Yes, there was.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: On one memorable flight on board a plane like this
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: provided by Air Hollywood, she says she made peanut butter
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: and jelly sandwiches for passengers including Oscar winner Kevin Spacey,
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: actor Chris Tucker, and even Bill Clinton. They were all
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: flying to Africa on a humanitarian mission and Jeffrey Epstein
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: had given them the use of his jet.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: So you never get President Clinton, No, I did.
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: It, Chantey says. When the plane landed in Africa, Clinton
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: took her shopping, but she says nothing improper occurred.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: They had shut down a jewelry store for us, and
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I helped him pick out a bracelet for Chelsea.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: It was a jet set lifestyle for sure, But Chantay
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: says she felt uncomfortable about being part of Epstein's collection
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: of young women. You saw young women around Jeffrey Epstein,
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: and they didn't seem to have regular jobs, and you
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: started wondering, why are they here?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: Yes, when you look back, are there red flags that
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: you should have seen at the time?
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Definitely?
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Why fly anyone out to be a massuse when there's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: plenty of messuses in the same city that you're in.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: Epstein served thirteen months in prison for soliciting an underage
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: girl for prostitution. Now, just looking at the front page
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: headlines the scandal has generated bring Chante to tears.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: To have to deal with that, and then, on top
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: of it, defend my character.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: I'll have children one day, you know, and they'll read this.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: She wonders whether she'll ever be able to live down
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: her time on the Lolita Express.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: More than anything, I just felt stupid, and yeah, I
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: felt duped. Folks. You just can't make it up. I mean,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: that woman was telling the truth there. She's lying now.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: But and this is easily documented, easily documented. But will
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: anybody in the mainstream news media reference her story, tell
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: her real story, and say, hey, wait a minute, if
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: she's doing this, let's take a look at some of
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: these others, because it's not an aberration. Again, people always
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: say with Sandusky, well, you're just just proving one accuser.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: There were dozens that got money from Penn State. Okay,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: First of all, if one is clearly lying, doesn't that
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: show that it was very easy to lie? And if
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: one is lying for millions of dollars, why can't they
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: all be especially when none of the stories makes sense
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and they don't have any evidence. Now, Again, to be clear,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I am very convinced because Epstein killed himself and because
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: he pled guilty. The first time that Epstein committed crimes
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of a sexual nature. He hired lots of prostitutes, some
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: of whom apparently were under the age of consent. That's bad,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: that's criminal. That should be punished. It was punished, by
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the way. The idea that he somehow got a sweetheart
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: deal the first time around is just not true. He
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: was a first time offender with a ton of money
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to run his defense. Getting into plead guilty and spend
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: over a year in prison was pretty extraordinary. I'm not
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: saying he didn't deserve it, but the narrative is that
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: somehow he got off easy because he had friends at
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: high places. That's just not true. Like almost everything else
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: in this story, it's just not true. And so much
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: of this narrative is being built on the backs of
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: people who have a financial incentive and a life incentive
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: to not tell the truth and to greatly exaggerate what
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: really did and did not happen with regard to Epstein.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: And yet still no lawsuits against any of these rich
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: power people that you know, the survivors claim were sex
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: trafficking them. They've never sued them. They keep saying they're
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: going to provide a list of names. They never do
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: because those names don't exist, and they don't want to
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: get sued, and they don't want to have what happened
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: with Geoffrey and Alan Dershowitz pick on the wrong guy
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: who might actually fight back. But there's all sorts of
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: people falling by the wayside. I mean, I don't even
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: have time or the inclination to talk about all the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: people that have resigned or been fired, or had awards
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: taken away or statues take it down, or board seats
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: are removed, all sorts of just absurd ramifications for people
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: that clearly never committed any sex crime and probably didn't
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: even know about Epstein's sex crimes. I've used the example before.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give an update on it right now.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Seth Wasserman, guy who I think at this moment is
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: still the head of the Los Angeles Olympic Committee for
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, although it's hard for me to believe
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to survive this, even
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: though it's absurd that this is even a question. But
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: he is now announced that he is selling his entertainment
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: representation company because there were not big names, but there
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: were some clients who were barreling on the company because
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: his name was attached to the Epstein files. Well, what
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: did he do? What crime did he commit? What heinous
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: thing did he write in an email? Oh, he wrote
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: a flirtatious email to Gallaine Maxwell, a woman who was
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: attractive and classy in her day, And I can certainly
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: understand a guy like Wasserman I think might have been
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I think he was married at the time. I'm not sure,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: but that's up. You know, it's between him and his wife.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: But regardless, I can certainly understand he was clearly attracted
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: to Glaine. Maxwell didn't say anything crazy. He asked, you know,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: how does he get to see her in a particular
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: outfit or get a massage or something like that? And
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: you know when that happened. That email was written in
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Two thousand and three, Jeffrey Epstein
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even plead guilty to a sex crime for like
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: another five or six years. He wouldn't kill himself until
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Glainne Maxwell wouldn't be convicted for almost twenty years,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: eighteen years, eighteen years before Glene Maxwell was a known
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: allegedly because I think her trial was a sham, a
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: known child sex trafficker, quote unquote eighteen years? What what?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we doing? And so
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: now this guy has to sell his company and he's
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: probably gonna get all sorts of other punish Vince. I mean,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's the knives are out for him
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, because by god, he's a straight
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: white male in a position of some authority and leading
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the Olympic committee. How can we have a straight white
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: male in that position and so you know, I'm My
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: guess is, if it hasn't happened already, they'll probably be
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: removed from that position. You may recall that I chied
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: at Elec Michaelson, who was once a guest on this program,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: who has now moved on from local Fox television here
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles to his own show on CNN in
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: the evenings. I chide at him because he did an
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: interview with a Democrat Los Angeles political person I believe
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: a supervisor, County supervisor or something like that, who a
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: female who called on Wasserman to resign his position as
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the head of the Los Angeles Olympic Committee because of
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: this email. And Michaelson did not push back at all
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: on the concept of this, the legitimacy of this, or
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: even providing the specifics of what he had allegedly done,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: and how absurd it is that and a flirtatious email
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: from eighteen years before she was convicted of anything, and
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: well before Epstein was pleading guilty to anything could possibly
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: result in someone losing a high profile position. And to
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Alex Michaelson's you know, credit, he basically essentially apologized to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: me a direct message saying he ran out of time.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: He should have done it, he didn't do it. When
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: this news about Wasserman broke, I sent him a rather
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: snide comment with the story. I said, I'm sure you're
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: very proud of your role in his witch hunt, Alex,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and he did not respond to me, which is highly unusually.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: He almost always responds. But I'm pissed off about this.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: And you know, Alex is a good guy, but he's
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: not willing to fight back against the absurdity. And you know,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: he and many other people have played their role in
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: this witch hunt. And by the way, playing the role,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: playing a role in the witch hunt is not just
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: about you know, what you do say, it's about what
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: you don't say. It's about not standing up against it.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: It's so to me, there's there should be an imperative
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: if we have real journalists out there, someone should be
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: willing to stand up and say, hold on a second,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: let's take a look at the facts. Does this make
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: any sense? What are we doing here? What kind of
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: precedent are we setting? But that takes courage, and there
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: is no courage in the modern news media, and Alex
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Michaelson certainly doesn't have it. And even though I think
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: he's a decent guy, certainly better than the average mainstream
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: legacy media person. But you know, I don't care that
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: he might be pissed off of me, because this is
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a witch hunt. This is a moral panic, and we
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: are now living in an era of instantaneous social media
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: that's ubiquitous, that acts like gasoline on a fire that's
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: being blown by Santa Anna Wins. This whole situation could
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: not have gotten out of control before social media. That's
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: what's driving so much of this. Without social media, so
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: much of the bullshit conspiracy narrative never would have been
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: able to take hold. There might have been people that
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: were coming up with it, coming up with it or
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: parts of it on their own, but they wouldn't have
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: felt like they were justified in it because they wouldn't
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: be able to go online and see hundreds of thousands
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: of people liking the same posts that they like, or
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: maybe millions of people liking the same posts that they like,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and it validates their crazy opinions, and then it creates momentum,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and then people get afraid, and then it feeds on
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: itself because every time a Wasserman decides to sells or
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: the guy from DP World resigns as CEO. People think
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: like Thomas Massey, think, Aha, we're on the right track,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: we got him. No, no, you're just facilitating a witch
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: hunt in the middle of a moral panic. It's the opposite.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: These results aren't happening because these Epstein files have proven
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: anyone guilty of anything remotely close to a crime. It's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: just proving what a stupid country we are. That's all
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: it is. It's just insanity, and I don't see it
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: stopping anytime soon. I wish it would. I hate talking
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: about this story, I really do. I will be very
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: happy when we do finally someday an episode of the
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcasts where I'm not talking about Epstein.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: But because very few people, very few people fully understand
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: what this story is all about and are willing and
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: able to articke that, I feel an obligation to do
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: so because if someone else was doing it properly, I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: would not bother with it. But that's clearly not the case.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: So that's the Epstein update. The Epstein update for this week.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: By the way, I am planning on interviewing one of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the few people who have actually done some really good
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: journalism on this story, probably in the next episode of
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm really looking forward to that guy I've
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: not mentioned before on the podcast, so that's tentatively scheduled
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: for the next episode of the podcast. And in a
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: moment in a few minutes, when we start our interview
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: with John Yarmouth, he and I get into it about
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Epstein as well, because he and I have a pretty strong,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: stronger than I thought, disagreement about what that story is
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: really all about. But before we get to John Yarmyth,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: a few thoughts about what's been going on with the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Winter Olympics. A lot of woken us, I mean, the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Olympics are obviously, you know, inherently woke because a large
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: part of wokeness is internationalism. And it's interesting that the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Winter Olympics, I think is maybe a little bit more
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: vulnerable to wokeness because it's so insecure about the fact
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: that it's so overwhelmingly white. I mean, the Summer Olympic Games,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: it's the Rainbow Coalition's obviously many sports are dominated by
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: dark skinned or black people, so there's not as much insecurity.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: But the Winter Olympics, they got us pay Snoop Dogg,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: a ton of money. By the way, a sex trafficker himself,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: a real sex trafficker. That's a fact. Somehow that's all
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: been forgotten. May have taken part in a murder that's
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: all been forgotten. I mean literally, I mean the records
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: are sealed in that case. I mean, what Snoop Dogg
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: has pulled offs is unbelievable. What Snoop Dogg does is
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: he sells his coolness and his blackness to white organizations
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: that are afraid of being accused of being racist, and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: so he provides them with protection and they pay a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: lot of money. It's a lot like the Mob used
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: to be. And so Snoop dog is like the mascot
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: for the Winter Olympics because there are hardly any black people.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: And it's not just race though, I mean absurdly. I mean,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: there have been some pieces of evidence that the mainStreet
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: media is very upset that there's so many white people
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  Speaker 1: at the Winter Olympics. But what are you supposed to
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  Speaker 1: do there? But so they've been, you know, getting their
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  Speaker 1: panties in a bunch over how many white people are
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  Speaker 1: at the Olympics. But there's been other issues that I
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  Speaker 1: think are even worse. When it comes to wokeness. I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned in the last episode in the light of Lindsey
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  Speaker 1: Vaughn in her amazing comeback bid, not even lasting twenty
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  Speaker 1: seconds before with a blown out acl she had a
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  Speaker 1: terrible crash broker tibia in the skiing competition, which was
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  Speaker 1: just terrible for everybody, herself and NBC and lots of
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  Speaker 1: her fans in particular. But I mentioned there was a
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  Speaker 1: woman whose story was pretty darn good who did win
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  Speaker 1: a gold medal in skiing for the United States, by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Breezy Johnson. And I said last week,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew very little about her except the fact
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  Speaker 1: that she had done a very emotional interview about essentially
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  Speaker 1: skiing for her dad, which I thought was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: But I knew that she wasn't going to be a
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  Speaker 1: big marketing person getting a lot of addursed endorsements. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, she's not famous. There was not any hype
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  Speaker 1: about her going into the Games, which seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a huge part of this equation. But she's also not
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  Speaker 1: particularly attractive. I even said, unlike Lindsay Vonn, she's never
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  Speaker 1: gonna have sex with Tiger Woods. And she's not famous,
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  Speaker 1: so we don't really care that she won a gold medal,
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  Speaker 1: a lot more attention on Lindsay Vaughn falling and breaking
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  Speaker 1: her leg after sixteen seconds. But I thought at the time, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Breezy Johnson deserves some more recognition and attention.
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  Speaker 1: And then I learned that before the Olympic Games, she
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  Speaker 1: had tried to get some attention for herself by claiming
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  Speaker 1: that she is a bisexual, and that she wants everyone
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  Speaker 1: to know that she's a bisexual, and that she's not
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  Speaker 1: a straight white person. That's why this is important. She
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  Speaker 1: literally said that I'm not a straight white person. I'm bisexual,
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  Speaker 1: as if somehow it's a disease to be a straight
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  Speaker 1: white person. Now, frankly, it's in my opinion, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of knowledge in this area, but people
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  Speaker 1: that claim to be bisexual are either lying, or they're greedy,
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  Speaker 1: or some combination thereof, or they're very confused. But in
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  Speaker 1: this particular case, it seems very obvious that this was
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  Speaker 1: a political statement that hey, look, I'm going to claim
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  Speaker 1: to be by you know, because I experimented a couple
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  Speaker 1: times with my girlfriends because guys weren't into me, because
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't very attractive. That's the most likely scenario that
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  Speaker 1: happened here. So therefore I'm going to claim to be
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  Speaker 1: by this will give me some liberal street cred, and
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  Speaker 1: it'll try to take away some of the toxicity of
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  Speaker 1: my whiteness and my apparent straightness. Well, the reason I'm
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  Speaker 1: even mentioning this, although the interview itself would be ridiculous,
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  Speaker 1: but the cherry on the top of the woke Sunday
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  Speaker 1: is that after I think this is the right timeline,
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  Speaker 1: after she wanted called metal, she was asked to be
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  Speaker 1: married to marry somebody by a guy. She said yes.
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  Speaker 1: So she is apparently now engaged to a I presume
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  Speaker 1: a straight white male, which I'm sure is another sin
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  Speaker 1: that she has to make give penance for that. Here
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  Speaker 1: she is a seemingly straight white woman being engaged to
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  Speaker 1: a straight white male. Oh my gosh, so much loss
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  Speaker 1: of wokeness points in liberal street cred here. So I
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  Speaker 1: just found that to be hilarious and telling, but not
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  Speaker 1: nearly as absurd as the other story that's gotten a
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  Speaker 1: lot of attention from the Winter Olympics involving gender. This
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  Speaker 1: is from OutKick. This is Klay Travis's conservative sports website,
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  Speaker 1: and this really is a story that you know you
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  Speaker 1: would probably make up. I mean if you were the
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  Speaker 1: Babylon b the satirical conservative website. This is a story
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  Speaker 1: they might make up, and now they can't make it
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  Speaker 1: up because it's actually real. Headline from OutKick. NBC apologizes
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  Speaker 1: for pronoun usage in Women's Moguls because of course it did.
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  Speaker 1: Sub headline. The apology came with a replay removal after
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  Speaker 1: the Women's Moguls International broadcast referred to Ellis Lunholm a female,
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  Speaker 1: as a she, So it's it's a woman's competition. The
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  Speaker 1: person is a female, got a female named female bylogy,
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  Speaker 1: The broadcast team referred to her as a she, but
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  Speaker 1: this required an apology. OutKick described it this way, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: real life is more satirical than even the most adapt
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  Speaker 1: satirist on the planet. An NBC via an International Olympics
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  Speaker 1: feed on peacock during the Milano Cortina twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: Winter Olympics, decided to provide us with a perfect example
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  Speaker 1: of this by apologizing after non NBC commentators referred to
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  Speaker 1: female skier Ellis Lunholm as quote unquote she during the
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  Speaker 1: women's muguls event. Seriously, this actually happened. As OutKick previously reported,
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  Speaker 1: Lungholm has decided that she is a man due to
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  Speaker 1: women's category eligibility policies. Lunholm reportedly does not take testosterone
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  Speaker 1: and has not had any quote unquote gender affirming surgeries.
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  Speaker 1: Lunholm is just a woman who cuts her hair short,
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  Speaker 1: wears baggy clothes, and demands that everyone call her a
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  Speaker 1: man and refer to her using he him pronouns. Now.
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  Speaker 1: If you're confused, it's understandable. Here's the situation. A biological woman,
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  Speaker 1: all female parts, no gender changing medication, no testosterone, no
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  Speaker 1: gender affirming care, who is under the delusion that she
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  Speaker 1: is a man, is participating in the woman's competition. She's
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  Speaker 1: in the women's competition. They called her a she, and
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  Speaker 1: they had to apologize. By the way, NBC wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: their people. NBC felt compelled to apologize because someone competing
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: in the women's competition was referred to as a she.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the absurdity of this knows no bounds, because
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  Speaker 1: to call her a he would make her, in theory,
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  Speaker 1: ineligible to participate in the competition because it's a women's competition.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean which is it? How come it does
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  Speaker 1: it work in reverse? I mean, right, I mean why
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  Speaker 1: is she not competing with the men? And we've been
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  Speaker 1: told that it can work. Biological males can compete against
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  Speaker 1: women if they just called themselves she called themselves a woman,
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  Speaker 1: of course, then they have a advantage, which thankfully the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Olympics would ban because they've changed the rules, because even
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the Olympics apparently has a point of insanity beyond which
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  Speaker 1: they will not go. But I think the most ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: part of this is that NBC felt compelled that they
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  Speaker 1: had to apologize for someone else's quote unquote mistake. And
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  Speaker 1: that's where we are on this. Obviously, when you talk
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  Speaker 1: about NBC and the Olympics, you're not far from the
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  Speaker 1: story of Savannah Guthrie and her mom, Nancy, who has
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: been missing now for well over two weeks. Savannah Guthrie
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: was scheduled to broadcast from the Winter Olympics to co
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  Speaker 1: host the opening ceremonies for NBC, but she is in Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: still presumably leading and helping with the search for her mom, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: And I really wish I had some sort of insight
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  Speaker 1: into the story, something to tell you that no one
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  Speaker 1: else has thought about. But I'm at a loss. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and I have, you know, a six degrees of separation
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  Speaker 1: to this story because Matt Lower is my friend and
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: he was Savannah Guthrie's former co host on The Today Show,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: and we've talked a little bit about it. I even
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: referenced some funny things that Matt said about me and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: revolving the ring camera video that he for some reason
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: one of the joke looked like me in a mask,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: which obviously was not. But I honestly, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Matt has any great insight. We've talked about some theories.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any great insight. To me, this is
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  Speaker 1: one of the strangest stories based upon what we currently
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: know in a very long time. I mean, a robbery
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. The kidnapping doesn't make any sense
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  Speaker 1: because there's been no legitimate ransom notes. I believe Anshley
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  Speaker 1: Banfield was wrong in her original reporting, just as I
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: suspected that somehow the son in law or a son
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: in law was a suspect in the case. I think
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Harvey Levin and TMZ have been full of shit with
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: regard to their pumping up of the idea that they
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  Speaker 1: got a legitimate ransom note. So nothing overtly makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, the idea that she could ever be
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  Speaker 1: found alive at this point seems impossible, and based upon
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: the videos that Savannah Guthrie herself has put out, it
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  Speaker 1: certainly appears as if they acknowledge this, that they know
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  Speaker 1: that they're just looking for a body at this point.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's there's the possibility that there was
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  Speaker 1: one plan I mean, or maybe the probability there was
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  Speaker 1: one plan that went awry and so this did not
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  Speaker 1: go down as as planned. But I don't even understand
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  Speaker 1: what the plan would have been. I mean, she's an
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  Speaker 1: eighty four year old woman who can barely move. I mean,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie has a lot of money, but she's not
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  Speaker 1: a billionaire. What's the value in taking her? It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make any sense. And I guess the only thing that
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  Speaker 1: I still feel fairly strongly about regarding this is I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: feel like we're flying blind here. I feel like there's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a piece of the puzzle that eventually we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna know, although I'm not as confident about that as
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  Speaker 1: I was last week, that we're eventually gonna know, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna where, we're gonna go, oh oh, okay, all right,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: now we're looking at this from a completely different angle
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  Speaker 1: and it and it makes at least a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of sense. I still believe that's the most likely scenario,
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  Speaker 1: but I am no longer confident that they're ever gonna
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  Speaker 1: find her. I mean, how do you with this level
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  Speaker 1: of publicity and this amount of manpower. I realized the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: desert is a very vast place, and that's the most
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: likely place where she is at this point. And therefore,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it might be years before someone finally finds
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  Speaker 1: a body, as sad and horrific as that scenario is.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just to me, it's just bizarre. The whole
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  Speaker 1: story is bizarre, the fact that they have they've they've
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  Speaker 1: not been able to find her or apparently a suspect,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: even though they have at least one, maybe two videos
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: of obviously someone who was clearly involved in this. And
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I still believe, I still believe that there's going to
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: be some sort of conclusion to this, but I'm not
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: positive anymore. I'm not positive. I mean, it just it
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they're super close right now. But who knows,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: but maybe by the time you're hearing this, because there'll
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: be a couple of day a lag period, that something
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: huge will have happened. And if that indeed is the case,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: I'll update it in the next episode of the podcast.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: But as of right now, there is still no sign
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: of Santavannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy. It's just a horrible, tragic
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: story and things do not look good at all, but
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have any insight. If I did, I would
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: share it, but I don't. But we'll continue to keep
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: you updated on it as events warrant. Thanks for listening
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