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From Screen Time to Growth Time: Raising Future-Ready Kids · Work It Like A Mum

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  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I'm Elizabeth Willis, and I'm obsessed with helping as many women as possible achieve their boldest dreams after kids, and helping you to navigate this messy and magical season of life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now back to the show.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he's going to be coming on today to talk a little bit about why he founded Elysium Minds and what he hopes the um I've got it all wrong.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to start again.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: What would you call it?
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: The um it's not really a game, is it?
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  SPEAKER_02: My skills or platform?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: The platform?
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: The platform, shall I call it the platform?
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right, I'll start again.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: I was trying to think, it's not a game.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whatever you want, whatever, however you want, we can just freestyle it and we'll make it work.
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  SPEAKER_01: Lovely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Work It Like a Mont podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today I am chatting with Dan Natchmez, who is the founder of Elysian Minds, which is a platform aimed at children to help them develop educational skills and not just education that they learn in schools, but also that emotional and resilient education as well, which I know is so important for children and for adults.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: He's coming on today to talk to us a little bit about the platform, why he's developed it, and hope what he hopes children and parents will gain from using the platform.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much for joining us today.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's a real pleasure to have you on.
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  SPEAKER_01: So for somebody that's not seen Elysian Mines, I mean I've been really fortunate my kids have um have been using it and absolutely loved it.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: What is it and who is it aimed at?
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_02: Well, firstly, let me say thank you for having me, Liz.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I definitely feel honored to have somehow transcended and and been able to be on this and work it like a mum.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: So it's good.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: I love what it is because I know I'm gonna let you explain it, but I think it's something that is so relevant um for children now in such a changing world.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, when we they get screen time anyway, actually for them to have productive screen time is really important for all the working parents out there that you know we do rely on screens a lot of the time.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: So, look, it in essence, what it is, it's an all-in-one growth platform, yeah and it's gamified to keep kids' attention and it's for kids to help them excel and and basically also really as a tool for parents to help parents give their kids the edge in school and life.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: So we cover core academics, maths, English, and science, and at-home science experiments.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we help kids develop healthy habits, so exercise and breath work, uh, and then also life skills that many of us wish our kids would know, especially if you're an entrepreneur and you've what you've realized is what's what's helped most entrepreneurs be successful aren't the skills we learnt in school.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: They're skills we've learned through life, and we tend to kind of come across them and develop them more around the 30s and 40s and kind of think, well, why weren't we taught younger?
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_02: And that's exactly the journey I went on as a parent and as a single parent.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I thought, how can I impact my son the the most and teach him the things when it matters rather than later on?
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think that we kind of want to teach our kids this stuff as parents, but we don't always have an infrastructure to do that.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: So essentially, Elysium Minds is a platform that helps parents teach their kids in a pace and on a personalized journey that they want to teach.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: Because we also believe that parents know their kids best.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, you know, I'm fortunate enough I've had success in life and in business as an entrepreneur.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm living in Dubai now, my son's in a private school, and and what really brought me across to develop this wasn't I always wanted to teach him these things that we don't learn, but also he was struggling learning at school, and I was being called in as a parent, and what the and and it's an expensive school, it's a top school.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_02: What they were telling me was, well, no, he's great, he doesn't misbehave, he just doesn't really concentrate and he talks a lot and he negotiates on everything, and he's gonna be like a he's got these attributes of a businessman, right, as a kid.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Well, these are great things, you're a private school, you should nurture this, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right, and then he'd come back, and we're in this era now, like you say, of screen time, and yeah, and I found him really wanting to get onto Roblox and YouTube and all the all his friends are on it.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought, well, not only is there a problem with what they're learning at school and how do we teach them these life skills, yeah, but it's also the way in which they're learning has changed, right?
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: And what I realized, the reason to get in trouble at school is because school wants to talk to him passively and for him to be quiet and just not really have an opinion and not conversate and not negotiate, just you know, just be very passive.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think that's the world we're in today.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: I think more than ever we're in an attention world, you have to have personality.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're in a YouTube world, we're in a creative economy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so what was getting his attention and what was teaching kids the way they want to learn is YouTube and is Roblox.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: And so I thought, well, how do I take that concept with with the skills that I think kids should learn and essentially give it to them in a way that they enjoy to learn and they can engage with.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's basically what we've done.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've made it as a platform, we've made it accessible to really anybody globally, because it's online.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: So anybody in it right now we're in English only, but we're gonna add other languages, but it's it's available all over the world um in English, and you can access it from uh from an iPad, a computer, a phone if need be.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that we amongst all of that, it's also stealing like I think that it's stealing bad uh stealing away from bad screen time to give them good screen time.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: So where we find it works best is I don't think we'll ever fully beat the Roblox or YouTube completely, but if I could reduce an hour a day from them, I think it's a healthy thing.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: And if we can make screen time more growth time, it's uh it's a better thing.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: I remember you went before and before we tried it, you were telling me as well about your son is in year four, just finishing year four, and he was getting year six results for certain case.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so so what happens the way the platform works, um, it's supplemental, like we're not a full homeschool app, but it's supplemental, so uh around school.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: So we cover uh curriculum, we're curriculum aligned, UK curriculum aligned, maths, interest, and science.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so he was in year four for the year he was in.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: Once he completes that, he it unlocks the next year so he can get ahead, and then he what he's actually ended up doing is he's gone so far ahead that he's he's completed year four, completed year five, completed year six.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh in in school, he's just finished year four, he's going into year five uh in the next couple of weeks.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but already he's scoring like 97% in uh year five math tests, 90% in science, uh, 65-70% in year six tests.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, like academically he's there, but also what he's also done, he's also completed all the personal development lessons so far.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: So we're actually adding more lessons as of uh as of next week, but um, which is is we're covering skills like uh financial literacy, emotional intelligence, resilience, time management, leadership, confidence building, uh understanding AI.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we have 1600 plus lessons on the platform.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: And all that stuff, it's like you said, a lot of it is the stuff they don't really teach at school or don't teach very well.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the big focus, is it?
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: And actually, it's that leadership, that resilience, that financial literacy.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: That is what we all need in our careers, particularly.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think the world of work is changing, it's changing so fast.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's that innovative, you know, how you problem solve as well that's really important.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, I mean, I was relatively okay academically at school.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I said, right, like like mid to upper.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I graduated as uh I was gonna go into accounts, I was gonna go into the corporate world at one point, and luckily I didn't, and I fell upon entrepreneurship when I was 17.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, school of hard knocks, I I learned a load of stuff that way.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: And then in my early 30s, I came across Tony Robbins, and I ended up investing a lot of money with Tony to be in his inner circle, like, and to give just to give some context, it was it was upwards of a million dollars, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So it was a lot of money, and I spent five years with Tony, 36 live events, and I learned a lot of stuff, and that was I I had had a level of success, I would argue, somewhat luckily as well, um which enabled me to afford to get around someone like Tony.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: But what I learned, and being surrounded by billionaires and very successful people in business, and and was a whole nother world of skills, and I just thought to myself, why wasn't I taught this at an earlier age, right?
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and I think, and by the way, that was now nearly 20 years ago, right?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: And the system was outdated then, and I don't think it's evolved much, but the whole world has moved along so far.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I think now, if my son, if I asked my son what you ought to be when you're older, and he said a YouTuber, I would think that'd be a great career for him.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's that's I I would think that gives him freedom, it gives him a uh an enjoyable life of living his passion, uncapped income, potentially celebrity status, all of this kind of stuff, right?
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: Why isn't that taught in school?
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like, like where are the skill sets taught?
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  SPEAKER_02: What if you want to go and start your own YouTube channel?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, like that.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think a lot of schools there are I think a lot of schools are fright.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know really.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think the world of work has changed so quickly, hasn't it, in the past five, ten years?
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's just that change is accelerating with AI.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I just I personally think we've all got to be more entrepreneurial because and there's no such thing as a job for life.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: More and more people are finding themselves out of work, you know, later in life or more frequently.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: And we've all got to, I think, develop those entrepreneurial skills, even if we end up employed, you've got to like sell yourself in a way as a candidate as well.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that's all entrepreneurial people that have that skill are gonna be.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like, even that being on a podcast now, right?
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: Podcasts is another one, right?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like you look at people like you like Sir Stephen Bartlett and Joe Rogan, and they're making like millions a year, you you're not gonna get that in a career.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: But look, I think that um entrepreneurialism is not for everybody.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are fearful of entrepreneurialism and it comes with its own, you know, when it when it works, it's great.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: When it doesn't work, it's very hard.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: But I think even if you want to have a career and that's that's that's the path someone wants taken as a more safe, yeah, uh safe path, you should have a side hustle.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_02: You've got to, you know, because I think that the way inflation, I mean, look, the world is changing so much, and like you say, there's something I learned a long time ago, right?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: Change is inevitable, but growth and progress isn't.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so sometimes people feel they're safe staying where they are, but change is inevitable.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: And and if you're staying where you are, like like inflation's going up right now, like I would say to in this period of life, as I'm talking to to the people that I come across, I've never seen so many more people struggling as what I've been seeing recently.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I think life, you know, all sorts of prizes are going on.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that and again, AI is going to put more people, it's gonna make a lot more jobs redundant.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna have to learn how to think and problem solve.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I think school, not nothing to be against school, by the way, because I think that we need a teaching system.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we need a we need I'll be honest, as a parent, I need them to go to school.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think homeschooling I'll say this.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think homeschooling is growing, and and and I'm my my son's in in private school at the minute.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: I would like to homeschool him under so something we'd probably look into.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's growing.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: But look, there's a place for everything, and I think the socialization is great, but I think that kids we just have to acknowledge that the education system on its own isn't doing a good enough job, and I think there's a lot of parents with a lot of good intentions that know their kids better than anybody else, but haven't got an infrastructure because they're busy with work, and what we end up doing as parents, at least in my experience, is we've got really good intentions, but when we get busy, we're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, go on, put YouTube on, I'll be there in a minute, and a minute turns into an hour or two hours, and before you know it, you've kind of you know given your child away to the algorithm, and the algorithm has a plan.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I just think as parents, we need more of a plan, we need more tools, and we need to help our kids.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: We want to help our kids be more prepared.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think every parent wants that, but we don't have the exact toolkit, and and that's what I've hoped to achieve with Elysium Minds.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: I did it to solve you know my problem as a parent, and as I created it and I listened to my son on Elysium Minds, I would just smile to myself, blown away with the stuff that he was doing, you know, things like vision balls, things like affirmations, things like the things that cost me over a million dollars to learn with Tony Robbins that I believe that some of the most successful people invest in and believe in, yeah, and aren't taught, and and we just find it too late in life.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: If someone's listening to this, they might not know who Tony Robbins is.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Who is Tony Robbins?
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, I think I think at this point, I hope that someone listening to this does, but yeah, I appreciate you, not everyone does.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: But Tony Robbins is a very successful American speaker, he's the guy that invented essentially life coaching, and he really I would say teaches people everything on uh health, wealth, relationships.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: He's somebody who's amassed over a billion dollars, he's a he's a self-made billionaire.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: But the biggest thing is the people that he's coached around the world are the biggest celebrities, the biggest government officials, presidents, prime ministers, um, and some of the most successful people in the world, Oprah Winfrey, um, multiple billionaires, and and success leaves clues, right?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: So look, everybody's got an opinion, some people like this, some people like that.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: But the reality is this when a load of successful people pay a load of money to learn from someone like it, there's a reason for it.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: And and if you get that, um, you know, growing up, I grew up, I came from very humble beginnings.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my parents were arguably pretty poor.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: Not like, you know, uh, but and and there's a mentality with that.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: And if you're open-minded enough to think I can be, do, and have whatever I want, then who's gonna teach you that form?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's quite funny.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: I was I was out with with my son the other day, and we were talking about something, right?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I use it as a point to educate because he'll he'll come into a place and he's got a lot of confidence and he'll tell me, you should do this, and you should do that.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: And he hasn't got the experience.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_02: I tried to explain to him everybody's gonna give you an opinion.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and everybody's got an opinion, but you can only listen to somebody you want to take health, you don't want to take health advice from somebody who's unhealthy or significantly overweight, you don't want to take financial advice from somebody who's broke, and you don't want to take relationship advice from someone who's single.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: You find a person that's excelling, and if they've got advice and you want to listen, that's who you take the advice from because maybe they've got something that they know that you don't, right?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: But other than that, everyone's got an opinion.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: So when I look at Tony Robbins, he's someone that's established himself in all areas of life, health, wealth, and relationships.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: And arguably some of the best people in the world, some of the biggest companies in the world have come from his school of thoughts.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: And as I started becoming more successful in the business and surrounding myself with more successful people, even when I moved into a very expensive house one time, and the landlord who I was renting from at the time was a hugely successful guy, he he knew everything about Tony Robbins and been studying Tony Robbins for years.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I just every time every time I travelled around the world and met somebody, if they were successful, they had already studied with the likes of Tony Robbins, yeah.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: And I just realized, you know, you're in the right place learning from the right person because there is a formula for it.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I guess because obviously you've got all the like the math core things, and there's a lot of probably businesses or platforms like yours that probably do cover the maths, English, science.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: But actually, for me, as a parent, what stood out was all this other holistic um, you know, rapper, if you like, that actually I think like say is the bit that makes somebody successful.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: The thing that you know, because we all know people that are really clever and actually they're broke.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: So the inspiration for Elysium Minds was for the life skills.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I made it for.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what I realized is even myself as a parent that values this stuff.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: I was putting my son in school, and we still want our school, uh, our kids to achieve good grades, right?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: And and I'm not set up for homeschooling at the minute.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: And so I thought, well, you know, how can I add more value?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: And that's why it's an all-in-one growth platform, is how I would describe it.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just life skills, it's academics, it's daily disciplines.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: And also one of the biggest things, one of the biggest things that helped me now in my later years and as an entrepreneur is the ability to learn.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like I honestly believe, like like we talk about AI.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we used AI to build the platform, it helped us a lot.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm somebody that I'm able to learn new skills.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think teaching our kids how to be self-disciplined and how to learn.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: And this is another thing which I loved about when I created Elysium Minds is that it's something that's done outside of school.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, yes, the parents have to kind of nudge their kids onto it, but after a while, they become self-disciplined on it.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then what you realize is whatever they want to do, whatever they want to learn.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: If all of a sudden they want to start learning piano or they want to learn what ballet or whatever, that they've got an ability that they now know how to put some time aside and discipline themselves to study whatever it is they want to do.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: And so I believe that there's a there's a like hidden empowerment within it as well that builds, you know, that builds that that habit.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so um, but yeah, we added on the academics more as as a bonus and and as a value add.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, for the parents that like most of us still, probably 90-95% of parents still have their kids in school, and so I was just like, how can we help them excel?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I think look, especially in the younger years, and we made it for seven to twelve year olds, because neurologically, these are key development years, right?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so so that's okay.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if you notice that.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I didn't know that, no, you said tell me that.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, right, okay.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: So, okay, so so the most powerful force in the human psyche is our identity, how we see ourselves.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: So somebody who sees themselves as a winner will always find a way to win.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's that one kid or that one person that when they whatever they're gonna do, they're gonna go all in on and they're going to be one of the very best, if not the best, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: And that that that could be a sports kid who's great at football and they're great at boxing and they're great at basketball, and you go, they're just good at everything they do.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they've got an internal dialogue that tells them that I'm a winner, and their formula that they probably develop is A, I'm gonna win, and I'm gonna keep practicing until I'm good enough to be so so they won't so people won't even realize because again, this is what I learned with Tony.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: We study, we study that formula, it's like a recipe, right?
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: If you know how to make a good dish, there's a formula for what you do, yeah.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and so there's a formula for creating a good podcast, for example, there's a formula for doing good in business, there's a formula for sales, there's a you know, like you've got sales, there's a system, and so we have an internal dialogue, right?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: And that internal dialogue is our system, so in times of difficulty, we can break down or break through.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: So you you find someone who's really resilient, right?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: You think oh, they all they always come out the other end, and you've got other people that just give up the first time they fall over, yeah.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's their internal dialogue, and a lot of that is shaped seven to twelve, right?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Really, yeah.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: So parents like and school and well for well, okay.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so look, look, we can, I mean, you can take the same brother and sister, yeah, with the same parents, and one thrives and one struggles, and you go, Well, why?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: So, but there are just certain moments in the shaping of that child where they've where they've made certain decisions and those decisions get reinforced.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it's the thinking from the parents, part of it, I mean that has a massive influence.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: So, if you have, there'll be a lot of people that have um we all know the the the zero to hero success story, right?
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: So there'll be people that have grown up.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: Poor Elon Musk is a great example, someone who's like the richest guy in the world, but grew up grew up poor.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Even you, and Tony Robbins.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: But there's many people, by the way, right?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so, like, you know, there's moments when we're challenged, and sometimes it's our parent that goes, You can do it, I believe in you, right?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: And that can push them through.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes over-mothering and fathering actually weakens them, you know, and sometimes ignoring them and not having that love from your parent or support makes you stronger.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: So there isn't, but but my point is, it's those years that's where it's shaped.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: What Elysium Minds does is give guidance to that, is is is put some some lines on that system, right?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: So here's a great one, right?
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: For sure, and and and again, this is a mum's podcast.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_02: I bet there's many women, and not to be sexy, but there's probably many women who go, I'm really bad managing money, I shop too much or I do this, right?
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: And if that's what they keep telling themselves, that becomes their reality.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy because that's what they say to themselves, it's like manifesting, right?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, again, by teaching financial literacy early on in life, yeah, right, you start to understand.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, like, you know, like okay, I talk about my my my wife, right?
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I so my wife didn't work, my ex-wife didn't work, and she didn't have to manage money until we got divorced.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I actually started to educate her on financial literacy, and she had never understood that the car could break down, and I need to have some money aside in case the car breaks down.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right, or in case something goes wrong that's unexpected.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: She thought I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna have this and then I'm gonna spend it on that, and that's all my month done.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: And then all of a sudden something goes wrong.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh so you know, just understanding these things like saving a little bit, putting in set stuff, investing some stuff, how how to make it compound, and so learning this in life, I think, um, at an earlier stage, it it's empowering.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think so, because they talk a lot to adults, certainly, about rescripting, and you know, you're subconscious, and you know, they say we're all eight-year-old children in adult bodies, but it must be so much easier, really, to put in the right script in a child than having to re-script someone at 40 that's had all those years of thinking they are this person and believing these stories about themselves.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly what you just said, we're all an eight-year-old child.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm what that comes from is neurologically, we're programmed at 7 to 12.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, how you remember those experiences?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: The same experience could happen to the exactly the same two children.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's how they assess it internally.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, like if you if your kid falls over, you've got two kids, if they both fall over and you don't help either of them, right?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: One of them might go, my mom deserted me, the other one might go, my mom wants me to be tough and stand on my own two feet.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: It it's it's how they're gonna process it, and and that processing is what then develops the adult, yeah, right?
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's why they say we're all eight-year-old children, because that processing is done then, and so this is why the seven to 12 is so important.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: So imagine now they're learning something like Elysium Minds that teaches them, like it teaches them failure is good, but failure's not, but failure's good, and you learn and you progress and never be afraid to fail, right?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: So now a child learning that becomes an adult that's gonna take risks, yeah.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's the school, because the school can't, you know, because we're all tested so much at school, aren't we?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like they don't want you to fail at school, so that's programmed in that failure's bad.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas, like you say, it's like and and and also it's uh I mean school teaches us more passively, teaches us to memorize, not necessarily to understand, you know.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that you know, one of our like one of our sort of taglines is uh cultivating tomorrow's thinkers, right?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think kids, and actually go going back to Elon Musk, by the way.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: I was actually one of the things that inspired me for Odyssey in mind was Elon Musk, uh, amongst other things, because he actually created his own school and it's it's only available to uh people that work for his like Tesla group and stuff.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: But it's he he said this, and and so many successful people have condemned the school system, but they said it's it's just uh outdated, but it doesn't teach kids to problem solve, and the biggest skill we can have is being able to think and problem solve.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, if if you're a successful parent, if you're an entrepreneurial parent, we've learned that, you know, we that that's you know, we've learned it the hard way through having you know suffering a lot and wasting many years, and we also go back and wish we could teach ourselves when we were younger, right?
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: And so as a parent, I think the biggest gift we can do is is you know help our kids with that, you know, and and I think that there's a big difference between empowering and enabling.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: I think when we do things for our kids, we're enabling them and it weakens them.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: But if we can give them guidance and and show them where to go to find the right things, we start to empower them, you know.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what I really like.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I heard them doing what my children when they were having to go did all the affirmations, so they repeat it back, and I think they were really cute because they put their hands over their hearts and like they properly got into it.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I think they also like the fact that it's quite gamified as well, so they unlock coins that they can spend in the shop and they un unlock extra worlds and things like that.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it definitely keeps their interest, it's not dry like you would imagine an education platform to be.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and I mean I'm very proud about it.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: Look, the reality is we don't compete exactly with the game because we we're not that game proud, we are an education platform ultimately.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but look, we've found kids I've had parents put their kids on for like 15 minutes, want to put them on for 15 minutes just to test it, and the kids want to stay on for like an hour plus, which is great because that's an hour, I believe.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_02: We're taking them away from YouTube and Roblox and the negative stuff that's out there.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: So um, so if they are going to spend an hour or two on the screen a day, I would rather it be an hour, you know, helping them grow.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, and you know, another thing, like uh we spoke about a lot about Tony Robbins, and and uh he's been one of the main guys that's helped me, that's guided me like but I look at a lot of the outside the box stuff, right?
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: Because like when you look at success, not just we can talk about success in business, right?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_02: But success with your health, success even in happiness, success in time freedom, success in relationships.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: Increasingly, it's like the one or two percent that are really successful, which means that the 98 to 99 percent are not, and means you've got to think differently to most other people.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I like looking at out of the box stuff, and you talk about putting your hand on your heart and stuff.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, Tony's one of the guys I've invested in.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: There's another guy called Dr.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: Joe Despenser.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you know who Dr.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: Joe is.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't know who he is.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: So Dr.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_02: Joe Despenser was a doctor.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: Long story short, he he he's he had his back broken, his spine broken with a bad accident, and they told him he'd never walk again.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: And the long story short is he, with the power of his mind, healed his his spine and completely in like a few weeks and went on to study, if you like, the power of the mind, the subconscious mind, how it can really heal.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: And he he because he's a scientist and a doctor originally, he wires people up and brainwaves and stuff.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_02: Very, very famous guy, written written loads of books, loads of studies that proved his work, he's helped loads of people cure from stage four cancer.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: And the the long the net net of what I'm gonna tell you now, and this is a very out of the box thinking, but it's it's not available to most people.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um the the heart and mind coherence, right?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: Because the heart is a second brain.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you know this, right?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then you've got the third brain as well, which is your stomach.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so, and and this is like all normal, this is all science, but it's not science that's always readily available taught in science.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: But the more they can work in sync, the more you heal, the more at peace you are.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: So when they're doing breath work, and and so if you know uh Wim Hof, who's another guy, then if you come across Iceman Wim Hof.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: So Wim Hof is a guy, again, written those books, he's a guy from Holland who they injected him with illnesses, he controlled his breathing in his body so much, they've injected him with illness.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: This is all scientific studies, and he was able to clear the illness out of his body.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: He's someone he walked, um, he climbed Mount Everest in his underwear because he could control his body temperature.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: They put him in like the Sahara Desert without drinking water.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: So, this is so so being around someone like Tony, what Tony does is study these people, he finds unique people around the world, goes, How come that person's different?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: We're all human.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: How is that?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how has he not died going across to the Sahara?
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: And he and he studies people like all the people that have gone from zero to billionaire.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: How what makes these people so special that they can go from zero to billionaire?
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: What's their system or their formula?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he studies that.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: And now now, when you think if someone could study that and give us that, that that gives us an edge, at least it's you know, so so this is so people like Dr.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: Doris Spencer, people like Vim Hoff, and I I'm fortunate because of Tony, I've come across these guys, I've studied with them as well, and I've learned stuff, I read their books, and uh and incredible stuff.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: And and the power of breath work is just it is it it emotionally regulates us, yeah.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's why meditation, you know.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, what that what people have done is they've uh commercialized it by um you've got well, I forget what that there's a really famous app.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've got the app to be fair.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Calm.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: There's calm and headspace.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: There's calm, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: What's the other one?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Headspace, I think.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Headspace was what I was thinking of.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: They might not explain it to you the way I'm explaining it, right?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: But the reality is breathing, even people who smoke that feel they need a cigarette to calm themselves down, what they don't realize they're doing is they're just changing their breathing.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: You think about the activity of it.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: I get that, yeah.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: You're slowing your breath down.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm telling you, if you did, if you do meditation, your your mind and heart is called is called mind-heart coherence.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, where and again, there's all scientific studies.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a scientist, right?
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: But I know there's scientific studies where the brain waves and and the heart waves go in sync, and then you become in a much calmer place, but you also can manifest more and you can heal yourself more.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna do something for adults?
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so yeah, so it's really interesting because there's probably there's loads of stuff out there, like you said, it's head spaced, it's calm.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there was loads out there for adults, and I suppose that's the easiest thing to do.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: It feels quite fragmented though, with the adult stuff, you know, like you've got the calm headspace thing like one bit, and you've got the Tony Rubbles, and then you've got the manifestation of the place.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: It is, you know, and there's a there's there's there's so many different things, and it's probably there's still a butt uh room for more, but I suppose the children is my passion, right?
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like I just believe they're our future, and I think that it's nearly a forgotten again.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_02: Seven to twelve is where we're shaped.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: So even Tony, as much as I love Tony, is fixing broken children in a way, yeah.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: You get what I mean?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because he had a very I know he had a very tough upbringing.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: But but every every what he's doing it, he's doing a really great job of is he's finding people that are challenged, but he's healing the child within them.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: But what if we healed the child before they became the adult?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Or gave them the tools so they didn't need healing.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 35:30
  unknown: Right.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: That sort of arm, really, that they they could, you know, things are a bit water for duck's back, if that makes sense.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I think there's an opportunity.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: Look, I'm a big advocate, I'm a big advocate for entrepreneurs.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: I know it's not for everybody, but given the choice, as uh if I could do my life over again, I'd definitely be an entrepreneur again.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: I definitely don't regret anything that the even the hard times.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think uh as a parent, I definitely want my child to be an entrepreneur if that's what he wants, but where he I believe it gives him more freedom and happiness and and and and options in life, right?
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, although I I again I don't think it's one rule for everyone, but that's just my personal preference.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that we're in a time now where even kids could become entrepreneurs early on in life.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like I I I went to university, uh I you know, I graduated I went to college from 16 to 18, I went to university from 18 to 21, got on student debt, came out, had to try and find a job, yeah, which I I've heard now, something I heard uh is it Simon Squibb, I think I think I think his name was on a was on some sort of talk show talking about how 70,000 graduates can't get jobs now or something plays.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's ridiculous.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a system that gives kids debt.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: So so if that's what you know, given that choice or and go back to homeschooling, I actually quite like to set my son up his own business where he could have fun because the amount I'm paying on private school is a lot.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'd quite like to sponsor him to start businesses at and just do some fun stuff.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Really cheap to start a business as well, isn't it?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: And and the learnings, because we're gonna fail.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: I I I failed, I failed many times in business, right?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: And um I think getting getting that experience, you know, you've got kids that could be and are, by the way, like multi-millionaires at 13 and 15.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't believe they're losing a childhood, by the way.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: I believe they're actually living a better childhood because they get to experience stuff and and look, money brings options, brings experiences, brings travel, brings you know stuff.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: So so you know it's very low cost, isn't it, to start a business.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing to set up a website.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: And and if you have no, I think it's probably a good time to do it if you don't have a mortgage or kids of your own, because that's I think what keeps people stuck in jobs that they don't like is because they've got too many financial ties.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: Well, again, you'll even go back to thinking as an adult, which I agree with you, but I've even thinking from the child point of view, yeah, right, that like you're right.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like again, what we find is that many people have been conditioned from the schooling system to then go and get a job.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, the whole system is what you're gonna be when you're older, what job do you want to have when you're older?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's never what business do you want to start, it's generally it's what job do you want to have, yeah, right?
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and so they're conditioned to try and get a job, and then guess what?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: When they can't get a job, they lose a lot of confidence and they think they're worthless and they think they're failures, right?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but what if they never thought about it and they thought, what business am I gonna start?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: What skills do I need to learn?
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: And you're gonna find that the skills they're gonna need to learn to go into business is not gonna be geography, it's not gonna be history.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: Seldom would it even be English, maths, and science.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they might play a bit of a part.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, having good English it plays a part, but again, even now, even maths, you know, everyone's got a mobile uh smartphone, you don't even need everyone's got chat GPT.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: You when are you ever gonna do arithmetic even nowadays?
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree, yeah.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, uh, I I I was with my son the other day, we calculated he's got some like savings of all different notes when we traveled around the world, and so we laid him out.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: He wants to count how much he's got, and we're about to count how much he's got.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I went, hold on a minute.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: We've laid out all the notes, we took a picture on chat GPT, and put us chat GPT and went calculate how much this is in this currency.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because you don't need to calculate, you know.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: So so I remember Einstein, uh, I think it was oh, was it um Einstein said you know, you you don't need to memorize anything that you can access easily.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_02: You you're taking up brain power, and our brain is for thinking and problem solving, right?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: And arithmetic one once upon a time was a was a great skill to have.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think it helps logical thinkers, but today we've all got a smartphone, we've all got Chat GPT, and and that's today, by the way.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: So you think our seven to twelve year old kids, yeah, five years from now, ten years from now, they're gonna be in a different universe.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's crazy when you think about it.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I think also I know we we've got all the life skills, but it's got the educational thing as well, and um in Elysium mines, and I guess for those people as well that might think that their child does need extra support in maths or English or whatever, but maybe can't afford a tutor.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um yours is definitely more accessible platform.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, so again, when we first came here, so my son's nine now, but when he we came here and he was four years old, I was paying like£70 an hour five days a week for a tutor.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_02: So I was paying for private school and£70 an hour, uh, which was like what£350?
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_02: A week,£350 a week.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: And and I wasn't impressed with a teacher, and her energy was bad, and I just and we actually came across another um AI tutor that we used instead, and I thought for maths specifically, right?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: It was Johnny only for maths, and um it worked so great that that gave me the confidence to you know that that I actually think that it can help.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_02: And again, we're supplemental, but again, we're like we charge$50, I think it's about£35 a month, or half price if you pay for the year, so it's like£17 a month.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: And if you've got two kids, it gets even cheaper on two and three kids.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: So um, I mean you work that out a day, it's like not even a pound a day, it's like like 50 between 50p and a pound a day, you know, versus I was paying 70 pounds, right?
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it gives you so much more than just the the tutor, and uh and it's just it's so engaging for the kids that they enjoy doing it.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, and they feel good, you know.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you go.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: So um, yes, my kids love it.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: So, how can other people maybe explore the platform?
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: Where do they go?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and how do they get started?
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so so right now we're we're online at elysianminds.org, which is uh E-L-Y-S-I-A-N and then M-I-N-D-S.org.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we are creating an app that will be on the app store in the next few weeks as well.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: So we know some parents don't want their kids going online as well, so it'll be like push notifications and apps, and you can actually get the app at the app store.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and we'll be on uh Samsung, whatever that I don't know what they call it.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the Android one.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, mine have accessed it through the Amazon Fire tablets.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's online.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think you'll go and yeah, they go online, they do go online, but yeah, it could agree with an app as well.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, we're gonna have the app soon.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: And uh also we do seven-day free trial.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: Another thing, you know, you ask about like, you know, um my son, when we did that, we did a uh founding families uh test with it and and we did like a whole like survey.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: And out of the the survey that we did, 93% of parents said that they saw a massive noticeable improvement in their child's uh behavior, happiness, confidence within the first seven days.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's one of the reasons we give a seven-day free trial.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: We really like like there's there's no credit card required, you can literally try it for seven days completely free and see the results for yourself.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: And and our biggest thing is that is to impact as many people around the world as we can.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_02: This I think that um kids have been overlooked, the problem's been overlooked.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think that a lot of parents deep down don't fully believe in the school system, but they just they don't have another way, they don't know another way to like what you're saying, you know, like you need them to go to school.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that's we're all quite time poor, so it's good that this is like the other way and it's all done for us.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that that's the idea.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's yeah, the idea we like I said, we believe that parents know their kids best.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're just giving you a tool to help you to put some structure around it to make it easier for you to teach your kids the way you want to teach them and the things that the patient wants to teach them and the things you want them to learn, you know?
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you could take this, you could you could like you like you said, yes, they've got the maths, English and science, but you've actually had them do more of the relationship stuff and things and the life skills.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_02: You can have them just do that, you can have them just do the maths, you can have them just do the exercise.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's so much, uh, like I say, 1600 plus lessons on the platform, and we're adding a hundred a week at the minute, so um, you know, at no extra charge, right?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just constantly growing.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's amazing as a parent when you watch your kids develop with the use of this and what how how it can impact them.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's quite personalized because they you set up a profile, don't you, for them, and they smile different ages, they seem to see different things as well.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, and talk to them in their name, so again, so the kids like that that the AI is talking addressing them, and they put the character and they make the character look like them, and yeah, they can't.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and another thing we say is like intentional parenting, right?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: It just it just helps intentional parents, intentionally parent, basically.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is it just British curriculum or you got the curriculum?
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's UK curriculum at the minute.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we will be adding US curriculum, like like we're going global, um, we do have clients in the US using it.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, obviously, I'm based in Dubai, so we have loads of people in Dubai using it.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, we are adding to it.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: There's just the the whole platform is growing um constantly.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: We have we have like quite a good team behind it, and uh we're constantly developing it and taking it for you know taking it forward.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for coming on, and we'll put all the links in the show notes.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: You're amazing.
• 45:05
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• 45:08
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• 45:09
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