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#250 Getting Schooled On Report Cards By Ben Knight · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Now you know we have a love for teachers around here.
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  Speaker 2: Ah can't get enough of the good teachers of this country.
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  Speaker 1: Well, good news because we have one in the studio
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  Speaker 1: with us, Ben Knight.
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  Speaker 2: Because really, teachers are just parents when you think about it.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: Teachers are educational babysitters. Nope, that sounded horrible.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What's stronger than a parent, A teacher, A teacher, parent,
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  Speaker 2: a parent teacher, a parent teacher.
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  Speaker 3: That's what Ben is.
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  Speaker 1: He is a parent teacher. He's also a comedian.
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  Speaker 2: Now I don't want it to get too competitive when
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: I say this, but he is an author.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: He's written a kid's book and just the one.
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  Speaker 2: He's illustrated the book as well. So he wrote and
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  Speaker 2: illustrated the book.
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  Speaker 1: What can't the man do? I mean, I've written one
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  Speaker 1: and a half books, but I didn't. Straight in here
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  Speaker 1: you did it. But you're just as good as he is.
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  Speaker 1: He has a beautiful wife, Andy and a beautiful daughter, DoLS.
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  Speaker 1: So he's new at this parenting thing, but he's an
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  Speaker 1: old head when it comes to teaching. He actually has
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  Speaker 1: a lot to say about school report cards and one
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  Speaker 1: thing that we should be looking for to know if
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  Speaker 1: we've done a good job at being parents.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to find out.
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  Speaker 1: Should we find out?
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  Speaker 3: Please?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Welcome back to Three Goading Dads.
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  Speaker 3: I am Maddie, Jay, I'm Ash, and I'm Ben.
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  Speaker 2: It was deeper the first time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys said that. Great.
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  Speaker 2: You may be the deepest voice we've ever had on
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  Speaker 2: the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Damn, there it is. I put a bit of source
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  Speaker 3: on that.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever I do anything, my voice always listen back. It's
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  Speaker 2: very high pitch.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, that's enough about.
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  Speaker 3: That means you got high testosterone. Did you know that?
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  Speaker 2: Don't tease me.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder where you're going with that. It's like, really
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  Speaker 4: medically that doesn't quite work out.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway that.
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  Speaker 5: You're doing all right mate. I just saw the photo
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  Speaker 5: out the front of you in your jocks, both in
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  Speaker 5: the budges.
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  Speaker 4: They're actually all over the studio there.
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  Speaker 3: Card's right.
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  Speaker 2: That's where you can end up.
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  Speaker 3: You could get budget smugglers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, podcast, trick you into it.
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: Come for a record.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty if you take your shirt off?
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  Speaker 3: Done? Actually no, no, I've got a sloppy rig at
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  Speaker 3: the moment you're yeah, yours is crazy, dude? Did you
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  Speaker 3: ever did you ever let yourself go when you became
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  Speaker 3: a dad. I've tried.
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  Speaker 4: Oh shout, he's got muscles, and he's got muscles in
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  Speaker 4: your ship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, smell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very lucky, very lucky.
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  Speaker 3: You're blessed.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: You kissed on the dick. We start these episodes by
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  Speaker 1: finding a little bit out about the guests, So we
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  Speaker 1: want to know, do you recall the most trouble you
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: got in as a.
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  Speaker 5: Child growing up as a ging and on the sun
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  Speaker 5: Shine Coast, came around burn Yeah, to move down in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 5: One that I recall, it's probably four years old, and
• 3:10
  Speaker 5: I bit a hole in the waterbed.
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  Speaker 3: That's coming dad's waterbed.
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  Speaker 2: Was that their main bed was the waterbed of guest bed.
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: That was their bed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they slept in a water watered as a guest bed.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I was like, they're fucking hard to sleep.
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  Speaker 4: And du so hard, they're so warm, you're all over
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  Speaker 4: the shop.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing them a favor.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah basically, yeah, but that or you were thirsty. They
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  Speaker 5: made three kids on it, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It was imagine that my kids were made at sea.
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  Speaker 3: I regret bringing that up anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Bit a hole in the waterbed and my little brother
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  Speaker 5: was in there, and Dad said, my dad's he was
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  Speaker 5: a warrant officer in the Air Force this time war.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, it's pretty high utter And Dad said
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  Speaker 5: who bit the hole in the waterbed? And I said Sam,
• 4:00
  Speaker 5: my brother. And then Dad turned to Sam, not a
• 4:03
  Speaker 5: tooth in his head, and he's going, all right, then
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to give Sam a big smack. And I
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  Speaker 5: was like, all right then, and he closed the door
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  Speaker 5: and here you're a naughty boy, Sam and started clapping
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  Speaker 5: his hands. Yeah, and then I don't remember this, but
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  Speaker 5: a faux slap.
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  Speaker 4: Totally, totally there's no teeth this kid, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a big hole in the waterbed.
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  Speaker 4: Came up and bed still like, yeah, that's was it
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  Speaker 4: going everywhere?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a tiny hose. It was kind of spraying.
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  Speaker 3: Think Dad patched it up pretty quick before disciplining.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, wait right there, yeah, something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't even remember patch.
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember this, but he remember him coming out
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  Speaker 5: and he said, all right. So Sam got a big smack.
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  Speaker 5: And apparently I was just watching TV and I just
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  Speaker 5: looked in him and went good. I just kept watching
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  Speaker 5: TV and I was like, what a little ship but
• 4:57
  Speaker 5: apparently you don't have morality yet until you're like five
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  Speaker 5: years old. Really yeah, apparently like four year olds will
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  Speaker 5: sell their soul to get out of anything.
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  Speaker 4: And Roller and Mazy pretty bad makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Macy's not quite five, so she's still Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's like Iceman wanted to get out of trouble, she
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  Speaker 1: would just be like him. He did it, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like clearly like she did.
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  Speaker 3: It, which made me feel better. I thought I was.
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  Speaker 2: That kids don't remember anything until they're after four or five.
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  Speaker 5: After Yeah, the morality and memory must kind of go like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: maybe your your your memory kicked in before your morality did.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe. Yeah, yeah it is a total asshole. Yeah, don't
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  Speaker 3: answer that.
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  Speaker 1: Boy did he ever like, did you ever get in
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  Speaker 1: trouble for it or not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I got in trouble, but I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah five years old, sharp with your teeth.
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  Speaker 3: She just mag got some little yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Lolla will bite my shirt and put holes in my shirt.
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  Speaker 3: She's like a little Yeah, I was a bier Nana.
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  Speaker 5: I would always bite Nana, bite my nana, and that's
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  Speaker 5: where it was tasty.
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  Speaker 4: Nana's go the extra skin to chew on I used.
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  Speaker 5: To bite every well, Nana only had one boob, so
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  Speaker 5: I'd always play with her fake boo. She used to
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  Speaker 5: give me her fake boob to play with.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean? She was like, please, I've got
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  Speaker 3: a whole bit. I'd do about it.
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  Speaker 5: So Nana, back in the day, because you had breast cancer,
• 6:29
  Speaker 5: they chopped off one of a booby, so they gave
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  Speaker 5: her a big fake titty and she just used to
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  Speaker 5: leave it.
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  Speaker 3: Laying around the house. And that was like our favorite
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  Speaker 3: thing to play with.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: Here's a question, like, fine, what how what detached the
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: velcro na?
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  Speaker 3: Dude?
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  Speaker 5: Man, It's just yeah, I don't know. It's kind of
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  Speaker 5: like a suction to man, just like just sort.
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  Speaker 4: Of pop it on the two magnets.
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  Speaker 3: Work.
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  Speaker 4: I've never heard that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, big fake bo and she wasn't a skin she
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  Speaker 5: was a proper nan. She was tig gold Nana bitties,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, so this
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  Speaker 5: thing could just be like a jellyfish on the beach.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you find you remember you grab that thing,
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  Speaker 5: you throw it at your brother. He's like yeah, really.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I bit a hole in that as well.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, not my tea you bring your dad into
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  Speaker 4: patch it.
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  Speaker 5: Up and she bit me back, remember because I used
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  Speaker 5: to bite her. And then one day in the back
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  Speaker 5: seat she just went without mum and dad looked.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard heard a few stories like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of mums and dads are like, how
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: do I get my child to stop biting? And the
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  Speaker 2: success rate of when you bite back a kid apparently
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  Speaker 2: it works.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I'm not a doctor. Look, I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not telling people to bite kids.
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  Speaker 2: Doing that kind of behavior, but it's.
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  Speaker 3: Worth it, right. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I think we've gone too far with maybe with the
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  Speaker 5: gentle parenting, you know, like I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know, it's such like it seems very rogue to
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  Speaker 1: be like a gen parent. But then just take a bite.
• 8:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, we got release valve. You've got
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  Speaker 5: to let some steam off. Teachers that are like, oh my.
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  Speaker 3: God, my little little cherubs had such a great day.
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, you check the heart.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to let some steam off, dude, Like you
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  Speaker 5: got to if I don't trust a teacher that's not
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  Speaker 5: calling a kid something mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've got it.
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  Speaker 5: The kindest people have the most dark sense of humor.
• 8:25
  Speaker 5: I believe like my fiance, who's a nicer unurse. First
• 8:28
  Speaker 5: thing she said when we went on our first date,
• 8:31
  Speaker 5: she came up to me. She was like two hours late,
• 8:33
  Speaker 5: and she said, I'm so sorry, George wouldn't fucking die like.
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  Speaker 3: That, right, So hear that and everyone goes, what a bitch.
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  Speaker 5: But what no one knows is she stayed back two
• 8:43
  Speaker 5: hours unpaid to hold his hand because he had no family.
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  Speaker 3: So like, exactly, so she's bothering him in the I've
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  Speaker 3: got a date. So yeah, that's the bit you don't know.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like we live in this world where
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  Speaker 5: it's like more important to present kind than actually be kind.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I said, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Like so she says those words, you're like, oh, what
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  Speaker 5: a bitch, But like unpaid, holding his hand, he had
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  Speaker 5: no family.
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  Speaker 3: She's the best person I know.
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  Speaker 4: She grew early on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she wasn't buying any holes in titties or waterbeds.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to speak about your wife, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: more interested. I love the concept of teaching. Yeah, I
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: come from a family of teacher. As a teacher, my
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: mum's a teacher, my brother's a teacher. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 2: remember as a kid. It must have been like nineteen
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  Speaker 2: and Mom used to teach primary and she was like,
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: come into one of my classes if you want, like yeah,
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: and it was for me it was pretty exciting to
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: see mom in action. But it was just like I
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: was watching her. Let's teaching more, just like don't do that,
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: sit down, be just that for like twenty minutes. I
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: was like, how do you actually try and teach anything
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  Speaker 2: when you'd spend so much of the class just trying
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: to like put out little spotfires constantly.
• 9:55
  Speaker 5: That's getting trickier because that's the Yeah, that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: like the world we live it like we want everything
• 10:00
  Speaker 5: inclusive obviously, but it is tricky when you've got like
• 10:03
  Speaker 5: one kid that you've just trying to like you've got
• 10:05
  Speaker 5: to manage their behavior.
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  Speaker 4: Actually there as a dis guy, Nah.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: You be a good boy.
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  Speaker 4: I was a terror. No, I went to eight schools.
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  Speaker 1: Shut you up, didn't it?
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  Speaker 5: But he's like you probably just do you remember your
• 10:20
  Speaker 5: favorite teacher that you had, like someone that got through
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  Speaker 5: to you.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: Mister Johnson? My dad is it teacher?
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  Speaker 4: Really?
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: I called him daddy.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: And now I called him daddy. I'm trying to think
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: of teachers that I did like we used to have
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: in my year six teacher mister Cox. He died in
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: a yachting actual.
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  Speaker 3: You had a teacher mister Johnson and mister.
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  Speaker 4: Cox, and he had mister Johnson and I had mister Cox.
• 10:44
  Speaker 5: We're just going to leave that joke there, come right
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  Speaker 5: back on.
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  Speaker 1: So he was great because he was cool, man, I
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: really like, I really like he died in a boat
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: accident apparently. Yeah, But we did have this teacher at
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: my high one of my high schools, a Tweed River High,
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  Speaker 1: which his name was mister Deal, but we used to
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: call him Extreme Dearly Extreme Deal.
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  Speaker 4: Because it was a professional body boarder as well.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: But one time there was a fight and he jumped
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: it off a two story building to stop this fight.
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  Speaker 1: And he was always Extreme Dearly and he was the sickest.
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  Speaker 2: He jumped and landed on his feet, he.
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  Speaker 1: Jump rolled and then broke up the fight between the
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  Speaker 1: two biggest kids in school.
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  Speaker 2: That's unnecessary, absolutely unnecessary, But he was extreme man.
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: That's kind of I mean, I kind of meant like
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  Speaker 5: a teacher that got through to that really got extreme
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  Speaker 5: extreme heeling Extreme Dearly did like, yeah, jumped off the
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: two story building, Okay, that wasn't what I was after.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: But that's who was your favorite teacher.
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  Speaker 5: Mister Pond in grades six and seven, and then mister
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: McAllister and he spelled out mister Pond.
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  Speaker 3: P o n.
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  Speaker 2: It about mister Pond just the best.
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  Speaker 3: He's just like I think the best teachers are.
• 11:52
  Speaker 5: Like if you you know when your parents go, I'm
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: not mad, I'm disappointed and like you feel worse. Same
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: deal with teachers. If if you remember like making him
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: upset and I was like a he didn't want to
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: like you wanted him to be sort of proud of it,
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: and they're they're the best teachers. Like did any teachers
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  Speaker 5: say to you like, man, I'm so proud.
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  Speaker 4: Of it, Like no, yeah, mister Cox, for sure.
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  Speaker 6: I do recall like having a really good relationship with him,
• 12:20
  Speaker 6: because I would have even when he was like on
• 12:22
  Speaker 6: lunch shooty and stuff like that, he would we would
• 12:24
  Speaker 6: chat and I remember I was just a kid, and
• 12:27
  Speaker 6: I do recall he would always be like in my
• 12:29
  Speaker 6: corner with sport and stuff like that because he knew
• 12:32
  Speaker 6: that was the only real thing I was concentrating on.
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: I wasn't great.
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  Speaker 1: He was also really good at being like you work
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: things out differently, So just run with that, yeah, instead
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: of trying to fit you.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: Into a mold. So you do remember man and here
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  Speaker 3: I am. He's great. Yeah, now that's a sick tea.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: Like how mister Deeley got more of a feature with
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: the two story flip? Was mister Pond the teacher that
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: inspired you to become a teacher?
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  Speaker 3: Really Dad was a teacher as well.
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  Speaker 5: Dad went from a warrant officer to a primary school teacher,
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  Speaker 5: so he had no behavior management issues. He was just
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, but all the kids were the same,
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: like they he was like not cranky, but like very stern.
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: He was like this, he's the sweetest dude ever.
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  Speaker 1: The fast figure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can always.
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: Tell, especially teaching boys, the boys that don't have a
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: father figure in their life. You can see they kind
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: of latch onto you. They're like they're just starved of
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: like a good male role model. Yeah, and it's yeah,
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: it's pretty special that that part of teaching.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Would you say that if you recognize a child like
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: a child, say a boy like that, that you can
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: sort of have an inkling that they don't have that
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  Speaker 1: role model father in their lives and start to draw
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: to you do you teach that person differently.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's really hard in all the subjects you got to teach.
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: Like back when I very first started teaching, which is
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: back in two thousand and six, the curriculum wasn't has
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: like fleshed out. You got to teach this many hours
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: as English, this many hours of maths. We've got to
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: get all this dumb dune done.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: No, no done.
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: Like if a kid came up with a good point,
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: you could kind of spend twenty minutes like talking about
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: that and like teaching the whole child. Because now it's
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: there's academic intelligence and emotional intelligence and it's all academic
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: at the moment, but like we don't take any time
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  Speaker 5: to teach emotional intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: Which is.
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  Speaker 5: Arguably bigger part of a human being, especially as an adult.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Totally if you can't understand, if you can't understand basic emotions,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely I feel sorry for them.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, But yeah, we teachers, And this is no teacher's
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  Speaker 5: fault at all. They've just they've got no time to
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: do it and they've got no space to And that's
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: the beautiful thing about like what teaching used to be
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: is like if someone if the kid came up with
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: an idea, like prep used to be play based learning.
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: A kid had come up with an idea. But when
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: I first started teaching, and then you just expand on it,
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: like one kid talks about dinosaurs and like, hell yeah,
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: we'll learning about dinosaurs and there's dinosaurs all over them
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: making eggs like that. But that's like coming from the kids,
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: whereas like now it's like, all right, sit down, we're
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: going to learn about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a picture of a dinosaur and that's all you get.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you spell? Tryer and saus who gives
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: a ship? They're awesome?
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Like exactly.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: That's that love of learning.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you think about now, it feels like a blur,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: like your whole child and stuff going through school. But
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: when you start, like when you asked me in stock
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: and I thought about there were those teachers there that.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Made you be like, okay, well I don't hate.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: That one, but yeah, you know there was other ones
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: that you just tormented, which you feel sorry. I feel
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: bad about now, but are.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: You trying stuff out there?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: You get just learning who I am?
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Teachers? Did you make cry lots?
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: This is an apology to all my previous except for
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: my English teacher told me I'd never be anything, said
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: it would be a used car salesman, and fun fact,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: And then I wrote a book.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, write and illustrated book. I can't spell.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't mean it like that, like I'm a dog
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: shit speller speller.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: What were your subjects that you taught in primaries?
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Primary school? You just teach all of them, you teach.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: You're just your your everything.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, would say the most you were like, this
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: is where I sit in the subjects, Like what's my what?
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: What what gets you going? I mean, I want to
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: say maths is dope. I love maths, and that's the
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: wrong sense. I want to agree with you there math science,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: science is my favorite.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, just because it's like yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hated maths, but now I'm a real numbers guy.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. English I hate, which is so because it's stupid.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I lived in Guatemala and taught and Guatemala and Spanish
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: was a lot easier than English.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: But give me an example of what's wrong with English
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: with the.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Rules like I before E except after C. You know
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: that's limitating, Yeah, you know that rule except for weird height,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: their weight, rain, seas, neighbor, freight, ancient foreign leguay, society,
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: science and vain, caffeine, sufficient species, conceivable capillaries. I can
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: go on for like I learned that I just remembered
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: a heap, just so it's like idiots.
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: As you get to this scenario, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Look to defend myself here.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: There's so many.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: But also what I've been saying the whole time is
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: like English is it's super fun if you have a
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: good teacher teaching it, but like, yeah, the Australian curriculum,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: it's we've got to do this, and now we're learning
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: about this and this and this, and like I was
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: really good.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: At poetry, which is like just because I love like
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I love rap and all that sort of stuff.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: And like I was and I wrote this great poem
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: for my I think it was like year twelve assessment
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: and they're like, no, we don't take poetry. And my
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: English teacher, who was great, went into bat for me
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: and he said, no, this is fantastic, and they said
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: we can't accept it. It was called the QCs test.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: I wanted to write a yeah, a poem because I
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: love rhyming. I love words love that creative type of writing,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: but they don't. They didn't accept that's well, yeah, it's
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, we'll test you on this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, don't choice anything really good. I don't want
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: to see it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: Don't think laterally? Yeah yeah, creatively or anything like that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, did you learn anything as a teacher where
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: you're like, this is going to help me so much
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: when I have my own kids in terms of getting
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: kids to behave.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I guess so, yeah, I guess you kind of take
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: it through OSMOS.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: You definitely learn what not to do, which is from
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: watching parents come in go go yeah, no, well you
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: can just tell the parents I don't want to do
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: that question.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, education day, when the parents come in and they
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: sit at the desk, what do you like, what would
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: you look out?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: What do you mean like a parent teacher interview.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: No more so when they open yeah oh yeah yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: and so what what would you look at that would
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: make you go, oh it's a good mom or dad
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: or they're not really that invested.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: So you got your your mums and I'll say mums
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: because it's mainly the mums that come in, like I
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: know that's yeah, profiling whatever, but they mums that come
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: in and the ones that will get their their lunchbox
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: out and unpacked their lunchbox, and the ones that will
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: get there their little reading book and like swap it over.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: He needs to do it.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Like the real sort of helicopter parents. So they call
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: him bulldoze of parents. Now turn they bulldoze the forest.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: So the kid just has a perfect path through.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: That sounds amazing.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: No, because they don't learn any resilience.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: True, true, that's yeah, my kids.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I just got cranky.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: No disappointed.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Eyes on me was one of the ones that I
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: didn't like that. I didn't want to be like, you
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: want them to work stuff out for themselves, make mistakes,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: that sort of thing.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Better have to be there to pick them up after
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the pieces have fallen down instead of just moving the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: pieces out.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Of the way. Yeah, exactly, give me put that on
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: a mug. That was.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: But on the other end of the spectrum, you've got
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: the ones that are just non existent, like they don't
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: rock up, Like, can we come in and.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Have a chat about Jaden. We'll call say Jaden Jaden.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, three wives or something like that, but yeah, can
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: we have a chat? Can we have a chat and yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: you just don't hear from him, and so you can't
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: kind of got to split the death.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I think, Okay, what do.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: You mean by you don't hear, Like, you don't hear
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: from them to.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Come in, parents just non existent, they don't, they don't
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: rock up, they don't.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: These poor kids.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: I've taught so many kids where it's just like, man,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: you just need a fucking hug.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And I can't because.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: That's what sucks, man, especially as a dude, like you can't.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Like that sounds so weird, like, but some fucking kids
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: need a hug man for sure, and it sucks that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just we were just talking about this
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: actually that like because Matt had an open day and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: it was like I had an open day where there
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was a kid on Oscar's cluster of table that no
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: one was there, and I remember I sat next to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: him and I'll show you what you got, and I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: just because I was like, I felt like he's.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: So he doesn't deserve that. Well, no matter what the circumstances.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: His parents could have been really busy corporate and just
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you couldn't make it. Yeah, but I felt like, Okay, well,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: at least I've showed some interest, like yeah, yeah, he
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: was just chill, but like I feel, man, I get
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that's the sort of thing that gets gets me.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, absolutely, time is coming out of him. It's there.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you grant Queensland, but he's pushed the motion down.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I do want to get back to teaching. Yeah, but
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: before we do that, I want to know about your
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: journey to become a dad. When did you decide you
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: wanted to become a dad?
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, It's never been something like I
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: always knew I wanted to be a dad, but like
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: it wasn't. I think it was just I met the
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: right person, like Andy, my partner's the best, and then
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: she said should we start trying?
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Hell?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how old are you kid now?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Five months months?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Five months? So you're in that dude, no sleep.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I had a few coffees before this.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: You the same, Yeah, number three?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Ten months at the moment, yeah, maybe eleven months. Yeah,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: but yeah I'm on six shots of coffee today.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Oh that would well yeah?
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Is that how you get their maps?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Is it just I just don't eat.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: There's a term that gets thrown around a little bit
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it's actually quite new to ask.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: But geriatric pregnancy.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Dude, it's so funny and I'm torrible.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I only learned this through Matt because Matt's beautiful wife,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Flaura is forty exactly forty, right, yeah, and they just
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: had Poppy what ten months ago, so she would be considered.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: A anything over thirty five geriatric.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: So I'm geriatric.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the messed up thing. I don't
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: think it applies to dudes. They don't say geriatric for dudes.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think because I looked it up. I was
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: trying to write a joke about it, But I don't
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: think it applies to that. I mean, al Pacino's still
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: shooting at eighty one.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's crazy, bloody al al I just can't help himself.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Those films can't be good, man.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's so crazy.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: But there's also a little part of me that's like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: still got a legend.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I can't understand it word.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: He says it's gross, but also he was like, man,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: he's not getting up in the middle of the night
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: changing nappies.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: He's changing his Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: So Andy was geriatric.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Geriatric?
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, everyone's sort of having
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: kids later these days, right, and I feel like everyone's
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: sort of looking after themselves more, you know, like I.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Think we just know more.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we know more, like with everything.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: So I think like now like definitely like people having
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: kids older. But I suppose there's still some of the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: old processes that people go through, like checking sperm and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: stuff like that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Dude, yeah, geriatric, Like, I've never been through that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: So you didn't check yours?
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: No, No, I only checked.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: It when they stopped it, like when I got a snip.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: We were both pretty lucky in that it wasn't a
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: long process for our wives to fall pregnant.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Me too, And I know so many people have so
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: many troubles with fertility. And Andy said we should try
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: now ovulating and then we did and then boom and yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: and there was a little part of me I was hell, yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: I knew it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, got shot.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Why don't you get your sperm tested?
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Well, because I was forty And she said, we will
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: just get checked. We'll get everything checked. So I got
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: it checked, which is hilarious. Do you do know the
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: process of it?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: You got it?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, I never went back.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: You've got to get it to the pathology within forty minutes.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: You don't do it in there.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You can all in country towns do it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And the doctors like an hour and a half away.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: My little brother, he lives out in the so he
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: had to find a bathroom, like a public twenty minute
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: public bathroom twenty minutes away. So he went in there,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: did his thing, and then drove straight to the dropped
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: it off. Yeah, I give you the carp.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I just done it in the car.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: Okay, where are your parkainer driving?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I'm driving.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Cruise control?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Just hell, yeah, wouldn't you go for your first meeting
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: at the pathology?
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Honestly, they just said they did blood tests and you're
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: ine test and they check like your genomes and all that.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I think, and then yeah, they're like, go do this
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: in the cup.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: So I was like twenty five minutes away from the pathology,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: and what's the deadline again for forty minutes?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's manageable.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I hit traffic on Victor Drive through on
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: the way to drive through sperm donations.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: That's hell genius.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: You know they weren't.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Taking gingers for ages sperm donations. Really yeah, pretty funny.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, well.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: No, no one wants it except and except Yeah.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: It's like I'll take all your donations.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: We're back now, back, now, we're back.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Now you're back in season.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: There was there was a moment there where they're like, yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: that we're not taking any gingers.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Sorry, that's pretty funny.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: You do that with any other type of humor, You're
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: like razors. It's pretty funny anyway. Yeah, but that so
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I hit traffic and I got there with like five
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: minutes to go back.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So you do all your bloods, they give you the cup.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they say go home, do your thing and
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: then get that into the pathology.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: What's it like a cup of seam into a complete
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: strange Yeah, perception, dude, creepy, It is creepy.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Fine, I'm assuming when you did the deed at home,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah you went straight out the door or did you
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: like have a cup of coffee first?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah? That gully croissan and you're like, I've got fifteen minutes.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: There's like buffer keep it. Well, you've got to keep
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: it warm as well.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: You've got to keep it if they say to keep
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: it in your pocket because it's got a sorry this
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: is Gross's great?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Is this all right, this is heaven we're talking about
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: comes so much.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: All right, let's just go back to the camp. But yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: that was that was wild. You're going to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Carry around a couple.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Let's just like get on track.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So you leave the house, you leave the house like
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: alls well, in the car, in the pocket, in the pocket. Yeah,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and then when when you go, we've got an issue here.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: I hit Victoria So in Melbourne, went down the street.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: I think a tram had hit a car. It was
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: a holy yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I sort of had to and I was looking at
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: the map like I can run it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: How much time did you have to spare when you
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: handed it over?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Five minutes? Oh yeah, you're kind of fine. Yeah I
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: said that before, mate.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was too fixated on it.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: It was blinded in my mind.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: It since you were ejaculating.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: You yeah, I just thought that would be funny. H
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: And then you felt pregnant? Yeah?
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: First go and how was the pregnancy for her?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Was she uncomfortable?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: She's sick?
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, morning sickness. Man, it sucks and you can't do
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: anything to help her. You kind of like just give
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: her food, help out, try and keep your mouth shut
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: so you.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Don't yeah, I'm so tired.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I do feel like I know some people
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: are like sick for the whole nine months.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah, she was crooked for the I think
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: the first ten weeks okay, and then got got okay,
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: and then the birth.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: The birth was hectic, talks to the birth. The birth of.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: My child was absolutely crazy. It was the most full
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: on experience of my life.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: You said, it's okay to cry on this, but I won't.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: No, that cries all the time.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Guilty, guilty man, start crying.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I am the biggest sook.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was welling up just before talking about the
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: kids and need a hug, Like, I'm the biggest sook.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: But she had pre clams here, go on pre clamps yes,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: it just blood PRECUREUS spikes and then so really quick,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: so she had We went in and they go, oh,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: you got pre clams here, and so her heart rate
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: was going up and down.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: So waters broke when she went in, water's broke.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: And then we went in.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then five hours later she's like, okay, we've
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: got a push, got a bear down, and then they
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: put the heart rate monitor you know, on the little
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: spike on the head.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Well, they put the heart rate for that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: One, but if they can't get a good reading, they
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: put a little spike on their yeah, on their on
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: their scale. Little girls heart rate was going up and
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: down when she was pushing and that sort of stuff.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: So they episiotomy where they snip and then vacuum pulled
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: her out and then she wasn't breathing. Got the I
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: don't know whatever they make to make the little girl breath.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: So I went over with Dolcier girl and then I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: looking at Andy and she's like bleeding out and then
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: the placenda wouldn't come out, so they took her to
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: the operating theater and I was just left with DoLS
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: on my chest, just like she's coming back right, And
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: they're like, yeah, but like for those.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Times you know that she wasn't breathing, like how would they.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Said, yeah, we'll get her on the machine quickly because
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: we wanted to put her on the chest and have
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: that you know, that golden and they were not right
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: now yeah, because I said, what about the what do
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: you call it? The umbilical call? Yeah, the umbilical cord,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: but like you're meant to leave it for five minutes
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: or something to get all the new trie and sindle
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: instead of just cutting it straight away. Some I forget
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: what it's called, but apparently that's the best thing to do,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: is like leave the umbilical cord and put them on
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: the chest and like there's the last little bit so bit,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: yeah whatever, and then snip it. But they said you
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: got to snip it, and I'm like, but what about
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: the no time snipped it?
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, calamara, did you guys snip the like I finted?
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Did you? I'm sorry for calling you a pussy man.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I'll be called far worse, honestly.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: They're like, do you want to the first time? Do
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: you want to come? Was like, no, I don't want
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: to go neither thing. No way A man.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm weird. I like popping pimple videos and all
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: that sort of stuff.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah around, yeah, dude, button holes and Nana's did anyway.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Snip the embilical cord?
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Then we take little girl over and they start making
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: a breathe like that thing. That's the scariest moment where
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: she's not breathing. And then finally, what.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Does that feel like as a dad watching your newborn
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: trib being worked it's fucked.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: It's the worst. You're trying to make me cry to
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: do I know that question?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: How long? How long I was?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Wasn't that long. But that's the thing. I don't know, man.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Every week.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I genuinely don't know. I was just like freaking
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: out and she's like looking up at me. I'm like, ah, dude, yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: So I don't know exactly how long it was. But
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: then she got she started breathing, and I was like,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: she's all right, Andy's.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Leaning, She's all right, Oh yeah, she's fine.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to put her on Andy, I remember,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: and then they said no, we've got to race her
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: off operation get the percenta out. And then I'm just
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: holding Dulcy for like two hours, and I'm like, Andie's
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: all right right because she was bleeding out, and they're like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: you know, she's fine.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Just that two hours.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It's quite isolate, Like I sat April went in for
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: an emergency on the first one.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Like you need to take baby and go.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: It felt like forever, but same, you have that feeling
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: where you're like.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: Dude, yeah, you just felt so isolated. Dude, it's crazy
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: and you can't do anything. No, yeah, which, look they're
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: going through the bulk of it. And that's the other thing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: I feel really dumb saying how.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was really hard for me because like, all.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: You're worrying about is is your partner. But they're like
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: just the fact that you can't do anything, and I
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: don't know, as dudes were idious, we just want to.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Help that's first.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: How Yeah, every dude is just I want to help me.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: There's nothing you can do, so you're just sitting there. Yeah,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: old little girl. And then the worst bit was because
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: she got pretty clampsy. They sent us home after two
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: days because her blood pressure went down. But then Andy
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: had a real bad headache and she took her blood pressure.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: She's an icy nurse. I said that before, and it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Was like, I remember that part.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Really. I feel so bad at it. I thought I
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: said that before Maddy would be funny, and you didn't laugh.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: We're to be scared of you.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I thought it'd be funny. I was like, you sound
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: like an asshole. I'm so sorry. I was like, we're
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: going to put our listening hat on now, matth I
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: want to be funny. Was sounded like an asshole? Can
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you yell.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: At my time, I'm a big softie and yet to
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: see it put me in the budget smugglers. That joke
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: didn't land anyway. So we went back in and her
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: blood pressure went through the roof. And then because she's
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: a nurse, she knew what was happening, and she they
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: started tapping her knee and her legs started really shaking,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: and that's early signs of neurological problems. And so Andy
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: started crying and she never cries, and I was like,
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: this is fucking There was a code blue. Doctors ran
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: in there holding Dulcie again because Andy's crying. I'm like,
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I automatic got don't cry, obviously, you got to hold
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: it together. And then it was crazy. All these doctors
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: came in and I was like, oh, something's up, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: I could see the doctor that let us go. She
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: was really worried. It's so funny what you take in
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: what you were watch, like these tiny little sort of
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Mike, what do you call them.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Like micro moments that you pick up Yeah, that you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: wouldn't usually.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And she was worried, and I was like, well
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: that's that's bad. Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: And so I'm like she's right, and then so they
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: gave her a magnesium drip to protect her brain, her legs,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: everything was sort of shaken, so she almost had a
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: stroke and a seizure. And that's the bit that really
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: messed me up. I was like, yeah, just in the
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: person you love most in the world.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: And then like, yeah, your brain just.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Goes to the worst places, like yeah, intrusive thoughts, glow.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And again there's nothing that you can do. And you're like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I just want to you would prefer it to be you. Yeah,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you're just like totally, I wish it was me down there.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't have to feel that absolutely, man.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that so but we got through the really
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: tricky bit, but it was like touch and go for ages.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: It was just like the magnesium drip and she was
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: in the best hospital in the world.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: They were saying, like the Royal They.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't say that this is the best hospital in the world.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Bring a ship out of the back of my house.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Woggle, Woggle is the best.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah there's one room.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that sucked. Man. It's yeah, that's the But
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: it's sort of made you very grateful.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Not that you'd wish to experience those type of moments,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: but when you do have them, you almost need them
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: as a little reminder to have perspective of, you know,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: how fragile things can be.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Dude, Totally, it's crazy.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Everyone's got their own story, walking around with their own
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: baggage that we don't really notice until you experience and
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you go, okay, well this is not that straightforward like
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: we think for thousands of thousands of years we've been
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: giving birth, Like we're all here because of it totally,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and you think, oh, just it's just something that happens.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: It's like the bus coming to pick you up.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: The biggest killer of women used to be child birth.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Exactly right. Yeah, you go through that, and then you
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: see people in that situation as well, and you're like, man,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: everyone's really just walking around with their own experience.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. And it's not until you get older that
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: you realize that you can.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: And that's the other thing, Like I give shit to parents,
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: but like, honestly, it's it's all just jokes. It's all
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: jokes because everyone's what I've learned is everyone's just trying
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: their best.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: That's that's all.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: That's all you can do.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and everyone fucks up and I think that's the
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: biggest lesson is like, yeah, everyone's just giving it a cry.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: We speak about the transition with your first child is
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: one of the biggest transition of your whole life. Yeah, Like,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: obviously you can move cities, you can start a new job.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: There are big moments, but nothing is as big as
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: welcoming a child into the world. Maybe not as big
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: for you because you are a techer, so you already
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: have so much exposure to kids. Like, did you how
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: did you find that transition?
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Nah? Probably worse? Really, yeah, I think so, do you
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: know what?
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Because what we were talking about before with like the
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: whole hug thing making a joke out of it. I
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: think being a teacher, you're like you have to push
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: kids back that like literally, there'll be a kid that's
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: trying to hug. You got to turn your hips, pat
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: them on their heads, like put your arms up in
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: the end, like blow your safety whistles like we're yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: appreciate you too, Like you're so like desensitized. Yeah, totally was, Yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: but yeah, and then this one and it's like, oh no,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: this one you can pour all the love into that
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: you want.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: It's like this I don't know, maybe it was just
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: it's just.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was you that really needed a hug.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: It's beautiful, thank you.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Thought we could put that at the end, but yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: that's for me. I don't know that that was kind
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: of not weird.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: But it's like, oh, this one you can everything, change nappy,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: is all that sort of stuff from my I'm allowed
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: to be doing this.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, of course she can.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: But it's the complete opposite.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: You're you're actually like you've got to actually be take
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: care of this thing totally.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: But the transition is is wild. But yeah, it's the
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: biggest change in your life. It's it's mental. I just
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: like having a shower, just like a five minute shower,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: just going.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I know, just like you can hand your like quarterisole
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: levels through the roof.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I feel like you can.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: No matter how prepared you think you are, you're not prepared.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's how I think.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: And I was classic not prepared whatsoever. That it hit
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: me between the eyes as it does.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, after the birth of child.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: What we're five months in, now, what sort of baby
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: is she?
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Shit?
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Sleeper doesn't pooh for ages. She takes like tenden days
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: sometimes to poo. Yeah, apparently like with the milk, it's
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: really efficient. So like they can it's it's not a
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: bad thing. Like sometimes they can go from up to
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: like two weeks without pooling. But when they do, oh yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: that's so sick because it's like a full like we
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: party men and massive.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Just daughters that a ship, yeah totally.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're obviously not solid ships yet, no dude, yeah yeah,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: it's still full on.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's man, it's the best. I forgot the.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Question three hours.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Maybe she's so happy. She's so that's the thing that
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: breaks my heart as well, Like she's the happy. She
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: smiles and she's giggling, which is sick for me. I
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: love getting laughs doing stand.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Up like gave me confidence. I'm doing, like shut up totally.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: When when your material doesn't land. There's a couple of
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: things I do with Poppy and it doesn't work, I'm like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: fuck normally, normally normally should be hysterical to Laura is like,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think I think she's done like ten months.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Ten months yeah, yeah before thank you, dude.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Thank I got your back. Don't ever talk to me like.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: That, you talking question?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when when I think it's unintentional words and so apparently,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm no expert here. So if you're listening
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to this and you go, Matt, that is completely false.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I apologize. I'm reciting this from a bad memory. Dad
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: is a difficult sound for them to make. A Mum
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: is easier, and a few times she'll just be like mom, mom,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and then go on falls into it and.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dad, different tongue like mama. They already doing.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: It with yeah yeah, because that yeah, we need change
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: the phrase term dad to something more easy to say
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: for a baby. I think for me, master.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Master ship, myself, myself change.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, the only moment for ten months, this is
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: what you have to look forward to. The only thing
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: that's just kind of cool is that you can say
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to her, where's Nana and she'll kind of look at
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Nana because it whear's buster does look and she kind
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of I think maybe is understanding, knows like where's your nose?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: There's your nose? Yeah, And so that's It's like, if
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: anyone who doesn't have a child, they must be listening
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to this going that sounds.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Boring as shit, so boring.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: If I didn't have a kid, I'll be like, man,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: he's such a dog.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: But now I've had a kid to do that sounds so.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that level of understanding interaction and it gets better
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and better better.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Every day.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: She's real happy to the point where like she'll be
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: sad and then you see her trying to smile and
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: breaks my heart up.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: It's a baby.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: It's like, hey, you can just cry, you can be sad,
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: you can feel all things like it's it's all good.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, she rules man like wake up and like
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: you can see a.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Smile and like behind her dummy and you pull it
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: out and she's just like, eh, let's do it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Andy must have known that she'd picked a good one
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: because I think if you're a teacher, I'm assuming you're
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: going to be like, Okay, that's good. You know you've
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: got you're not going to be a total piece of
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: shit with kids, and you'd already written your kids book.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: You haven't met many teachers, have.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: You, d Wow, my mom.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I think I think.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Most teachers have a yeah, have some sort of empathetic
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: bone in their body.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I guess because you've written your story, your kid's book
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: before you met Andy. Yeah, so you must have dropped
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: it and by the way i'm teaching, I'm also writing
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: kids books.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Was there to pick up scene with this book thing?
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I finished it because of her? It's andy. Yeah, so
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I've got all these books on my computer.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: I just wrote for ages like ages ago, like when
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: I was twenty and just over the years, just been
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: writing these.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: But do thank you so much. Tell me I'm so
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: you threw everything. If you say.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Sorry one more time, I'm going to get an direction.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry because you did all the illustrations.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as well, what's the story? Behome? Wow? We look
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: at that whoa we wow? Wow? We look at that tree.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: There's a song on Spotify that goes with it, so
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: you don't have to read it to your kids if
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: you don't want to.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: He wrote a song for it too. Yeah, you're making
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: us look like so useless people.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: It's cool. It's an here worm. I'm so sorry if
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: people hit me with it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Wow, look at that tree.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: The other saplings laugh at me. It's crooked then, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: so unusual. This tree is weird and so delusional. You
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: look at that tree.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: That's good because what is the story about.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: It's about a little tree that decides to grow crooked
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: instead of straight up because old trees grow straight.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I'll go off to the right like ashes cock, Yeah,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the left, Sorry you're off to the left.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Right. How did you know that's what the story was about?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Man, you would not believe how it's about a tree
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: that grows cool?
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Is it about your dicks' predictable?
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: And every time?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Like? Man?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: And if I heard, I was like, well that's a
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: good that's Red's original.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: It gets me every time. Do you keep throwing them out?
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know why, Like maybe it's growing like I
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: said before, grow up ginger on the Sunshine Coast, like
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I was the odd one out.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: So it's like about a little tree that sort of
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: grows crooked.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: But then all these things happen and it's just about
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: like staying true to be like embracing your weirdness.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah, very cool.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Have you read it to Dulcie?
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, aepes that's all I read to it. Yeah, I
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: read it to her because it's for her. It's in
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: the front. It's for Andy and my beautiful little girl,
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: which we didn't know it was Dulcy yet because the
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: book came out.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: That's why I haven't plugged it. The book came out
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: the day she was born.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: First, Yeah, obviously I put it on the back burner
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: promoting the book and everything, so yeah, to look after
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: little girl.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I read it to her all the time. Ye,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Harry McClary, what do you all go to for books?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Two days in the question free time?
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: The secret ingredients?
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Is that a good one?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: That's you should it's critical of yours as well.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I think you might know this one, this Smigs and
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: the Smurves, Smigs and the Snags. Yeah, she's great. Her
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: name what's her name, Julie, She's really I like it.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: But then sometimes I'm also like, does anyone want to
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: read Spot? Because it's just like four pages tired? And
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I also know that we can just speed ramp this
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: whole gun to bed process.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's good.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: And sometimes Lola's like, I do want to read Spot, and.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wear green sheet.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Cracker, that's not my dinosaur, that's not my bed.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Encyclopedia Harry mcclarys might go to Harry McClaren think
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: I just yeah, so yeah, Andy is the reason I
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: finished it. I showed her these books. She wasn't just
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: going through my computer.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I was like, she knew they were already there.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: I said, I can't even remember. It was in my notes.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: I had all these these these books that I've written.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: I've got a fair few of them. And she was like,
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: why haven't you done anything with these? And everyone thinks
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: it's like so easy to I've approach publishers. They were
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: kind of a little bit funny, but we don't really.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Like it whatever, So she said, just draw the pictures.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: And so when I was working on a film, I
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: just started drawing the pictures in my downtime and eventually
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: they're just banked up. And then I finished it. And
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: then I was backstage with Hughesy having a yarn.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking about tax I wasn't there yet. This
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: is the Old Testament. I love.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got him Old Testament too. It was great.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: He's the King.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: I go into bat room all. I love him.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: And because he's very likes to help people. And he said, yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: I'll get your publisher's number. With Scholastics, I had a
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: meeting and the like they really liked it, and then
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: they yeah, we published that. And then they went through
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: my Instagram and said this joke's really funny. Johna right
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: book about that. I was like, hell, yeah, I've written
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: another one.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Someone about a stick classic. Yeah, everyone loves stick. Everyone
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: loves you found a stick?
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: You you sound a big long stick.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I'm a wizard. Now that's the whole, the whole jokes
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I wish my girls were into sticks, but they never
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: picked it up.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah it is. I hate to say it, but it
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: is a pretty boy thing.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, climbing trees and six.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Stick one that looks like a.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Gun, that has sticks that looks like looks like guns.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: So my joke that I did it was like on
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: three million views or whatever, and someone tagged official Stick Reviews.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: And then they shared it and then it went like
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Banana's million.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: People just create like accounts of things like that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: With teaching, without doubt, there's a boy that walks in
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: after lunch just holding a stick.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Wearing that Yeah, I want to get a good long
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: at it, but they don't even know they've got them.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I will do what's the stick for?
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: And he's like, it's a good stick, And I was like, yeah,
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: I'm so sorry you got to leave it outside.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: It's like, why, I don't know the rules it's stupid.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: It was up to me that stick could stay. Let's
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: put it in the electric sharp see what happens.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Talking about teaching, what were you like writing report cards?
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: You know, I got in trouble a few times because
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: I tried to make them very personal, and that they said,
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: you've got to be very professional. Personal is in like, man,
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: I wish i'd write things like man, like like how
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: I talk? Because I talk like an idiot, Like I'm like, man,
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: you're as such a little legend.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Loved having you in the class. Keep kicking button or
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: something like that. And yeah, but they're like, it's got
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: to be professional.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: But every now and then there was a really cool
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: deputy principle that he'd let a few slip through.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Because that's how report cards work.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: We write them, give them to the principles, they read
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: over them, check over them, and then and then they
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: go out.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, fine, fine.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: And then you read the pe teachers ones and you're like, oh,
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: we should have checked these.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Spelling mistakes.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: He is right, not good at spelling. Good spelled that wrong.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: We think we understand report cards, right. We think we're
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: picking up what the teachers are.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Putting down there.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: We thought we would just get your opinion on a
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: few lines to understand what they actually mean.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: And some of these are ones that I would have
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: seen in my report card, like distract easy.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll start this one.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Ash is a spirited learner and developing self regulation. What
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: does that mean?
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Ah, Ash won't sit the fuck down. He's absolutely psycho,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: but a good boy. He kind of got a book.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: You got a ship sandwich them sometimes exactly.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt has a vivid imagination space cadet.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's me.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I think. Yeah, I feel like.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: My head's off with the fairies all the time.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: Here we goes extremely inquisitive.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Little sticky bee nosey. Yeah, yeah, really wanted.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I always use the whenever he asked
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the question, that's just sticky beaking.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I always like none.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know straight away the business.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: What about confident and assertive?
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Thanks to you took the brains on that one. Yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: confident that a lot.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: I mean it could be sometimes that's a good one,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Like they are just confident and very assertive. But sometimes
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: it's like let someone else speak.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Peer relationships are developing, Nigel, No friends, Okay, Yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a sad one, isn't it? Because but it's tricky.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: But when you meet the parent, you're like, oh, yeah,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense if you Yeah, I.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Can pretty much.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: If you teach long enough, you like, I know exactly
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: what the parent's going to look like or be.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, doesn't far from the tree.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, based on the kid. Yeah, kid with bel crow
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: shoes in grade five, you're gonna have the mum at
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: the window at two thirty.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Things that we think, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the bulldoze.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Apparent, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, a real character. Ah, that's a
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: good one, dud. Yeah that's you boys, thank you, that's
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: you boys. Naughty boys.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, guilty, were cheeky, cheeky, naughty boys.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Sorry. M enjoys movement breaks as I shake my legs
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: during a record. Honestly, I played, I played kick drum.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I want some fucking topic. So are you saying that
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: as you're doing it? Was so good? Sorry you did
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: you do mean that on her? No? That's so sick.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: It's going now.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I'll play kick drum on both legs all day.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: If you play your drum, no I should Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I'm doing like three or four different beats at once.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, enjoys. There you go.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: You just you answered it, answer my pants.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Learning to respect other people's personal space.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're annoying those kids. You know, they'll put their
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: finger in your face and.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. I'm not
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: touching you. That's that's sort of always just up and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: guilty in other kids.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, touching you thats about right, I'm not touching you.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I had two younger brothers, and if ever I laid
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: a finger on them, they'd be like, ma, Mom would
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: be like, just come down so hard on me, and
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like so then I'd either fucking belt my little
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: brothers or I wouldn't touch them.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Are you the oldest I'm middle five.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, because I'm the oldest in the family and
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: my little brother do the exact same thing.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: He'd like peck at me and then I'd wallop him.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Impressed with ashes ability to link prior learning.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: Oh you know, that's a good that's a good teacher
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: on that means nothing. We're just trying to hit a
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: word count basically.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a few of that.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: What the prior learning was.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: It's just trying to feel in just patting it out, dude. Yeah, yeah,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: feeling some gaps here.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I thought I was gonna learn something that.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Is there any kind of phrase that would be your
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: go to for a really good kid that you would
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: dish out as like this kid is awesome.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Man. Well that's the thing.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: I tried to write it like I talk because it
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: seems more genuine, but they'd always sanitize.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: It a little bit.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I know you call a kid a legend
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: or something like that, and they get so stoked.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Like you give a kid.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: That tiny little ruffle of the hair or pad on
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: the back, is like that could stick with him forever,
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Like you don't know how.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Much that's gonna that that's gonna help.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I think that, but that even as an adult now,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: any bit of praise of like, hey, really well done.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: So the other Dayeah, my kid's soccer and he was
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: playing against this other team. There's a really little kid,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: really little, like look like he was out of place
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and he was playing against her, and I remember he
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: did a good kick right next to me.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: He went out and he looked at me, and I'm like,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: you'll get a next time, big.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Guy, And he was like yeah, dude, thank you, God
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: made his holder.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: And April was like, oh my god.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: He was so stoked.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just with a can't big guy, you know, like
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: and I was like, what about that?
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a there's a mass theory that I think
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: applies to this really beautifully.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: It's like angular error. It's it's okay, So.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: If you're shooting an arrow and the targets like ten
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: meters away, if you're like one degree off, it won't
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: be that different. Like the margin for error's little trajectory,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: and the margin for error is only little, but like
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: over one hundred meters. That's it's like ten meters, right,
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: And that tiny little thing that you said to that
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: kid could be like the little that little angle shift confident.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like, oh man, I'm not little, I'm bigger.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: And you would not believe how many like things that
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: kids hold on to we hold onto. There's the be
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: like you didn't even realize it until mister Cox is
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: like yeah, no, he probably.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Did, especially like five years old and being growing some morality,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: get beating, call big guy when you know you're the
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: smaller a straight I.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Don't care how old you get. Someone calls you a
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: big guy, Mike.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my kid calls me a big goal.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Really getting called a big guy kid. Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Also also he also caused me.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Ash Man, beautiful goals. I don't care how old you are.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: I was on the light rail here and I saw
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Wendell Saylor on the train and I was like, oh man,
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: that's Wendell Saylor.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I love him so much. He played for Broncos, right,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: I got off the train and he could see me
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: looking at him, and we both got off the train
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: at the same time. And I walked past him and
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: I was like smiling, hey Dell, and he goes, you're
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: looking large, fella, and I.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Was like, I was like, oh man, that's so out.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: The rest of the day.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: So with report cards, the most important thing, and I
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: say this all the time, is the achievement marks are
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: the biggest ones, right, They're.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Always bold and big.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: But I always tell parents to look at the effort
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: and behavior marks. They always give effort and behavior marks.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: I'm like, just trust me, they're the ones you need
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: if your kids try and trying their hardest and just
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: being a good kid, that you're killing it. Best parents
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: have it, don't worry about their achievements because the other
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: thing about schooling is it's like we teach one way
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: for one particular style of learning, pretty much in the
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: traditional education, but kids don't look so many different Like
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't learn the way that they teach at school.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Sit down, be quiet, that sort of stuff. It's yeah,
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: and it's so hard. And there's that great meme or
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: whatever it is as like a monkey of fish bowl
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: and elephant, all these different animals, and there's a teacher saying,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: all right, today we're going to mark House. Smart you
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: guys are that the test is climb this tree. And
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: it's like that's exactly the same thing for kids. Yeah,
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: that people learn differently.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: We as adults now we always talk about us, I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: don't really learn that way, but we don't know. We
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: just get told how to learn as kids instead of
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: just trying to work it out.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's man, I go on and on about this,
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: but yeah, it's really truck.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: I think creative if it is really stifled.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: In schools, which is a big one for me, because yeah,
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: kids go through school and like it's just yeah, the
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: creativity is just squashed so much. And then they get
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: into jobs where you've got to think creatively and it's like,
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: let's think laterally, all outside the box, and it's like, well,
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: that got beaten out of me. The systems that we've
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: created within schools doesn't nurture creativity at all. It's teaching
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: to the tests, and no teacher wants to do this
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: at all. Every teacher wants to help every single kid
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: build up all their different skill sets and that sort
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: of stuff. But when you've got to triangulate data and
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: do all this and it's like we test these kids
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: to within an inch of their life.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: It's the love of learning is squash. That's the main thing.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: It's like you ask any kid when they're young, they're
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: always asking questions, so they're always like why is the
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: sky blue? Why is the grass greend like, they're so
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: inquisitive and they're so like creative, but then it becomes
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: learning becomes something that you've got to get a good
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: mark on a test, which just kills your love of learning.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: It's like why, yeahs as a kid, I hate, I
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: just hate had been told I had to learn instead
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: of creating something.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I'm started on that plan testing. She's like, another thing
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: that's wrong with that fucking I went.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Over to your house and she just burst into a
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: conversation about nap land.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Go off, Queen.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: I agree you, and yeah, well it's stupid, it's and
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: there's not one teacher that you'll meet the fantastic It
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: should be good if it was used.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: The way they intended it.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: But now we've got like there's tests like that you
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: can buy from news agencies. It's like helping your kid
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: with the nap planned test. It's that's not what it's, idiots.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: It's it's meant to be like one test that's like,
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: here's your kid at this point, and we can get
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: data from that. But now it's like teaching to tests
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: and it's like this whole it's this huge thing and kids.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Are terrified of totally anywhoy just enough pressure.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: As a kid, not me, I was.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I couldn't give a fuck.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well they're getting away from tests over in the
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Scandinavia and all that sort of stuff until at like thirteen.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like because it's not.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: It's good for the scandals.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: It's good for me man.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: As I always say when Dulci has all grown up,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: she's no longer living at home. What would be the
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: one thing you want her to remember about the house
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: she grew up in.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, dude, that's a beautiful question.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: Just love and a safe space, a safe space to like,
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: be able to talk about anything, be open, not having
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: to yet hide anything from from mum and dad. I
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: think like yeah, and I think I was pretty blessed
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: with that with mum and dad.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want right, beautiful great answer, Thanks, guys, No,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: thank you, Ben. We appreciate you coming in and spending
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: some time with us, coming all the way from Melbourn's
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a cramp Jesus, Oh my god, podcasting is a tough.
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: For You've been playing kick dr on the whole episode.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for spending some time with us.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get through these guys.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I need to rub down the culture below finished.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: You got name you guys.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks and I will leave a link to Ben's book
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: in the show notes.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Thanks to much sick.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of those terms on report cards were
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: very familiar.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Matt.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I hate though, go on? I
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: hate that he was throwing a bit of personality to
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: the report card and it was getting shut down by
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  Speaker 2: the principles. I reckon like that if I as a parent,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe everyone's different, but if I read like Marley
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  Speaker 2: is a little legend and she tries so hard and
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  Speaker 2: she's just like big ups to her, I'd be like, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I want.
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  Speaker 1: On Oscar's next report a big old boy, Miss mc
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  Speaker 1: knight's be like, yeah, Julie, that's what we need more.
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  Speaker 1: We need more of that. If Ali g was a teacher,
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  Speaker 1: I would enroll immediately.
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  Speaker 2: We need more personality, especially when report cards nowadays are
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  Speaker 2: just so dry.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but the thing is there's teachers like Ben
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  Speaker 1: who want to do that sort of thing, and then
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  Speaker 1: there's teachers who don't, and unfortunately the curriculum sounds like
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  Speaker 1: it leans towards the people who don't.
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  Speaker 2: So Ben, you keep being you, You keep Benning, You
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  Speaker 2: keep well said, And we'll also put the details for
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  Speaker 2: Ben's book in the show notes. If you would like
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  Speaker 3: Is about them by both books.
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  Speaker 2: Well said, well said, Let's go, Let's get.
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