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Sharri | 18 July · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Line is Sharry Good evening Steep Price with you filling
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Speaker 1: in for Sharry again and back tomorrow night at six
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Speaker 1: with my Friday program coming up on the show tonight,
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Speaker 1: The spectacle, it is the way the Americans select their
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Speaker 1: next president, goes next level.
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Speaker 2: In Milwaukee, newly crowned Vice President j d Vance, with
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Speaker 2: his wife and mum in the audience, makes his first speech,
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Speaker 2: and tomorrow for my President Donald Trump, after surviving that
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Speaker 2: assassination attempt at the weekend, he'll speak for the first time.
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Speaker 2: Take you to Washington and Trudy McIntosh first up tonight.
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Speaker 2: The other story, of course, that's dominated this week, the
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Speaker 2: lid finally blown off the murky underbelly of activities on
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Speaker 2: Australia's building sites led by the militant CFMEU Queenslaian Senator
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Speaker 2: James McGrath will join us to talk about that and
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Speaker 2: back to the cost of living crisis. With unemployment figure
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Speaker 2: nudging a little higher today and I think it under
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Speaker 2: counts the real story. By the way, we'll talk to
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Speaker 2: the hospitality industry. It's a figure tipping one in ten
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Speaker 2: cafes around Australia, maybe in danger of closing. But let's
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Speaker 2: start in the United States. It's the center of the
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Speaker 2: world at the moment. It's the big third day of
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Speaker 2: the Republican National Convention. Donald Trump's running mate, jade E Vance,
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Speaker 2: introduced himself to the nation and the world. You have
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Speaker 2: to say. In his first speech as the nominee for
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Speaker 2: Vice President, Andrew just spoke of his amazing book that
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Speaker 2: he wrote. He spoke of his heart upbringing in Ohio,
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Speaker 2: making the case that he and his party best understand
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Speaker 2: the challenges facing Americans and the working poor. He even
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Speaker 2: spoke fondly about the woman who raised him.
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Speaker 3: In my life, I had a guardian angel by my side.
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Speaker 3: She was an old woman who could barely walk, but
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Speaker 3: she was tough as nails. I called her Mammo, the
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Speaker 3: name we Hillbillies gave to our grandmothers. I mean, Memo
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Speaker 3: raised me as my mother with addiction. Ma'am All was
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Speaker 3: in so many ways a woman of contradiction. She loved
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Speaker 3: the Lord, ladies and gentlemen. She was a woman of
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Speaker 3: very deep Christian faith, but she also loved the F word.
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Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. She could make a sailor blush. Now,
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Speaker 3: thanks to that mamm All, things worked out for me.
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Speaker 3: After nine to eleven, I did what thousands of other
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Speaker 3: young men my age did in that time of soaring
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Speaker 3: patriotism and love of country. I enlisted in the United
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Speaker 3: States Marines.
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Speaker 2: JD then go down to business speaking about what Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump should be the next president of the United States.
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Speaker 3: Leader who rejects Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's green news
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Speaker 3: scam and fights to bring back our great American factories.
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Speaker 3: We need President Donald J.
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Speaker 4: Trump.
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Speaker 3: For decades that divide between the few with their power
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Speaker 3: and comfort in Washington and the rest of us only
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Speaker 3: widened from Iraq to Afghanistan, from the financial crisis to
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Speaker 3: the Great Session, from open borders to stagnating wages. The
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Speaker 3: people who govern this country have failed and failed again.
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Speaker 3: That is, of course, until a guy named Donald J.
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Speaker 5: Trump came along.
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Speaker 3: President Trump represents America's last best hope to restore what,
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Speaker 3: if lost, may never be found again, a country where
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Speaker 3: a working class boy born far from the halls of
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Speaker 3: power can stand on this stage as the next Vice
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Speaker 3: President of the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: Like all good speakers, he got better, I think the
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Speaker 2: longer that he went. Let's get the lightest first up
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Speaker 2: tonight from the US with Sky senior political reporter Trudy
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Speaker 2: McIntosh's live in Washington, DC, where it's very early in
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Speaker 2: the morning. I guess a lot of people sat and
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Speaker 2: watched JD in America who had not seen him before.
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Speaker 2: What sort of feedback are you getting, Trudy on that
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Speaker 2: speech that he made today.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I think that's the key point, isn't it state that
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Speaker 6: lots of Republicans, broader Americans wouldn't have known Jdvance was.
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Speaker 6: If you're in the inside the Beltway, the MAGA crowd,
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Speaker 6: they would have known who JD.
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Speaker 4: Vance was.
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Speaker 6: But it was an opportunity, as you say, to sell
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Speaker 6: his hillbilly rags to riches stories. There was some great
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Speaker 6: insights there into how he grew up, but drawing that
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Speaker 6: together with the broader American story and trying to win
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Speaker 6: over and prove kind of a generational change. Trump quite
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Speaker 6: old as we know, and Jdvans at just thirty nine,
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Speaker 6: a younger, fresher face as selling the same MAGA message.
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Speaker 6: I also thought, though last night, there was some other
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Speaker 6: fascinating parts of that convention. The fact that Donald Trump's
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Speaker 6: eldest granddaughter got to the stage, an opportunity to humanize
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Speaker 6: what is a very tough and polarizing figure here in
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Speaker 6: American around the world. She spoke about these stories. You
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Speaker 6: could see Donald Trump beaming at the time as she
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Speaker 6: spoke about el he sneaks your candy and all those
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Speaker 6: things that granddads like to do. I thought that was
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Speaker 6: a nice touch to show the human side of a
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Speaker 6: rather polarizing man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she talked about how she goes and plays golf
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Speaker 2: with him. When she's winning, he doesn't like it, he
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Speaker 2: tries to beat her. It really did soften the image
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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. And given what happened last weekend and
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Speaker 2: given how he has handled himself Donald Trump I'm talking
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Speaker 2: of since that seems to be what the theme of
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Speaker 2: this Donald Trump trying to get elected in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: four is going to be like. As opposed to what
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Speaker 2: you'd have to say, Trudy, back in twenty sixteen was
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Speaker 2: a very bombastic Donald Trump who was very loud and aggressive.
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Speaker 2: I think what happened last weekend fundamentally is going to
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Speaker 2: change the way he presents himself to the world.
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Speaker 6: Well, and how could it not that you are literally
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Speaker 6: a centimeter or so or the head turn away from
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Speaker 6: being dead, that is a huge clarifying moment for anyone,
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Speaker 6: let alone a man running to be president again. Donald Trump,
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Speaker 6: I would think this time around, has been much more
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Speaker 6: disciplined in his campaigning. We have three weeks on from
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Speaker 6: that disastrous debate from Joe Biden, and in the wake
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Speaker 6: of it, Donald Trump didn't go out and blow things up.
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Speaker 6: He just was quiet. Whilst your opponents struggling. Let them
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Speaker 6: continue to struggle publicly. The real test, I suppose, comes
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Speaker 6: at his speech tonight here local time. It's slated to
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Speaker 6: be around an hour and a half Donald Trump speaking
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Speaker 6: at the convention, but he's promised he's rewritten the speech
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Speaker 6: compared to what it was before that assassination attempt, promising
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Speaker 6: a message of unity. I imagine he'll still have a
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Speaker 6: few barbs in there. He's got an hour and a
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Speaker 6: half plenty of time.
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Speaker 2: Just briefly, back on jd. Vance, I think that's an
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Speaker 2: inspired choice. I mean, I didn't know anything about him
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Speaker 2: till we saw him today and people talking about his
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Speaker 2: book and the Netflix movie. But this is a thirty
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Speaker 2: nine year old guy who dragged himself up by his bootstraps.
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Speaker 2: But more importantly, I think truty and we've seen it
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Speaker 2: in Australian politics. It signifies a generational change. I mean
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Speaker 2: you could say that about you know, Peter Costello shadowing
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Speaker 2: John Howard or Paul Keating shadowing Bob Hawk. You always
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Speaker 2: have to have if you want to continue win elections,
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Speaker 2: someone in reserve who is going to be a great replacement,
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Speaker 2: which is exactly what the Democrats don't have.
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Speaker 6: And I think the choice of JD. Vance as well
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Speaker 6: shows how secure Donald Trump feels in his position. With
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Speaker 6: vice presidential picks in American history, normally presidents pick someone
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Speaker 6: who's a compliment to them, who's going to help win
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Speaker 6: over an area of the American voter base that they
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Speaker 6: don't have. Think about John McCain picking Sarah Palin, a woman,
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Speaker 6: Same with Joe Biden picking Karmala Harris, an African American woman.
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Speaker 6: And normally that's the sort of reason why, a very brutal,
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Speaker 6: real politic reason to pick someone with Jdie Vance, that's
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Speaker 6: not what this is. This is someone who now believes
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Speaker 6: in Trump's agenda from those russ Belt states. Joe Biden's
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Speaker 6: sons apparently as well a Steep, were quite instrumental in
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Speaker 6: convincing him that JD was the one.
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Speaker 2: You're in them all there in Washington and the current
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Speaker 2: president flew back to the East coast today. Now this
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Speaker 2: is going to be a big story, obviously. President Joe Biden,
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Speaker 2: he was asked in an interview would there be anything
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Speaker 2: that would encourage him to step down from being the nominee.
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Speaker 2: He said, well, a doctor's opinion that my health would
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Speaker 2: suffer might be a reason. He then suddenly comes down
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Speaker 2: with COVID, jumps on Air Force One, doesn't come back
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Speaker 2: to Washington, flies to Delaware, where he and Jill will
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Speaker 2: spend the weekend. Are you tipping we might see a
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Speaker 2: fundamental shift from the Democrats here. Will Biden perhaps possibly
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Speaker 2: step down over the weekend?
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Speaker 6: Well, if this was Australian politics, let's be real, he
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Speaker 6: would have been knife three weeks ago, the day after
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Speaker 6: the debate. That's how it works. Back home back here,
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Speaker 6: because he'd already been through this primary process, it's harder
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Speaker 6: to do that. Joe Biden has to call time essentially
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Speaker 6: on himself, the huge intervention yesterday though Chuck Schumer essentially
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Speaker 6: his camp. It seems leaking this meeting he had last
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Speaker 6: Saturday here in a mint errecka where he told Joe
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Speaker 6: Biden in no uncertain terms, you have to go. Then
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Speaker 6: we saw the leak of Nancy Pelosi. She also had
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Speaker 6: a meeting in the last week or so with Joe Biden,
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Speaker 6: showed him the polling says you can't win. Joe Biden's response,
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Speaker 6: apparently is I don't believe those polls. We've seen somewhat
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Speaker 6: of a softening. I'll point out the New York Times
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Speaker 6: and CNN both reporting very similar lines out of the
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Speaker 6: Biden advisor camp. They're saying he's now more receptive to
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Speaker 6: the idea of dropping out, not that he's decided to
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Speaker 6: do that. He wants to be convinced that Kamala Harris
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Speaker 6: can win, but the first sign from the Biden camp
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Speaker 6: that they are thinking about his future.
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Speaker 2: The head of the Secret Service was in Milwaukee today.
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Speaker 2: She was pursued by the media asking questions about how
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Speaker 2: that rally could have been so badly treated by the
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Speaker 2: Secret Service protection of Donald Trump. Is she going to
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Speaker 2: hang on.
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Speaker 5: To her job?
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Speaker 2: And I can't believe she's not already put her hand
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Speaker 2: up and said, look, we screwed it up and I'm quitting.
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Speaker 2: This is Kimberly Cheetle.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's incredible the revelations that came out yesterday. It
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Speaker 6: was overshadowed here in America by the convention and by
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Speaker 6: the Biden news. But she told lawmakers apparently on this
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Speaker 6: call that happened that has been leaked now, that more
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Speaker 6: than an hour before the shooter, Thomas Crooks took a
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Speaker 6: shot at Donald Trump, that he was a person of
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Speaker 6: interest from police, and twenty minutes before snipers had seen
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Speaker 6: someone on a roof of that building. So there are
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Speaker 6: huge questions here. As you say, though, I'm not sure
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Speaker 6: if you've seen the vision, there's this incredible moment on
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Speaker 6: the floor of the convention last night, Republican lawmakers, a
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Speaker 6: Senator Marcia Blackburn literally harassing this woman, the Secret Service Director,
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Speaker 6: publicly in the corridors with the cameras there. That's only
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Speaker 6: what journalists do to see politicians publicly doing that. It
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Speaker 6: shows the pressure that's on. Just a warm up two.
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Speaker 6: I'd have to say she's due to appear in Congress
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Speaker 6: next Monday. That is nothing compared to what she's going.
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Speaker 4: To face there.
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Speaker 2: Trudy Mackintosha, as usually you're doing an outstanding job. I'm
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Speaker 2: very jealous of you standing there on the mall in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 2: Keep it up and I'll talk to you again soon
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Speaker 2: and we'll see what unfolds over the weekend. Isn't she fantastic?
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Speaker 2: Truly doing that? Now back home, I just need to
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Speaker 2: return briefly to the scandalous behavior of the construction arm
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Speaker 2: of one of Australia's most powerful unions, the CFMEU, a
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Speaker 2: major labor party donor, as we know seen not from
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Speaker 2: a government inquiry but from as a media investigation to
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Speaker 2: have been really an alleged organized crime like outfit infiltrated
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Speaker 2: by outlawd motorcycle gang members using bullyboy tactics. That's new
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Speaker 2: too tame, I think, more like standover tactics, threats of
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Speaker 2: violence and allegedly demands for bribe money. Now, this week's
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Speaker 2: been a disaster for state labor in Queensland, New South
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Speaker 2: Wales and particularly Victoria, where the current government has been
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Speaker 2: too close for too long to this outfit. In my view,
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Speaker 2: their leadership from the socialist left have been only too
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Speaker 2: happy to take political donations and volunteer labor from the CFMAU.
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Speaker 2: These boats go out and man polling boots and answer
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Speaker 2: phones during election campaigns now this week started with a
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Speaker 2: nine newspaper nine newspapers opening a lid on this stuff,
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Speaker 2: and now that it's out in the open, it needs
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Speaker 2: to be properly investigated, not by the union itself but
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Speaker 2: with a Royal commission led by a non politically aligned judge.
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Speaker 2: Just today in the Herald Sun we learn of more
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Speaker 2: shocking allegations while whistleblowers telling how secured tenders. So someone
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Speaker 2: who's put in a tender to work on a Victorian
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Speaker 2: government project and wins that tender only to be replaced
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Speaker 2: because the union doesn't want to work with them. It's
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Speaker 2: reported in some instances the unions the CFMEME used preferred
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Speaker 2: contractors didn't even have equipment needed to do the job,
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Speaker 2: so they had to buy it off the company that
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Speaker 2: won the tender in the first place, and they were
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Speaker 2: run off the site. One was allegedly told okay, mate,
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Speaker 2: if you want a meeting, bring twenty thousand dollars in
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Speaker 2: cash to a meeting at a footscrape pub to broker
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Speaker 2: a deal via the CFMEU to get onto a government
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Speaker 2: infrastructure project. Company to their credit said no, but you
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Speaker 2: can be sure someone else did. And of course in
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Speaker 2: the middle of the current federal government shutdown the cop
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Speaker 2: on the beat. They shut it down the ABCC in
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Speaker 2: one of the first acts of the Albanezy government. Why
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Speaker 2: would they do that, Well, Minister Tony Burke claimed they
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Speaker 2: were being petty and investigating things like flags on building sites.
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Speaker 2: So the CFMEU flag stickers on helmets, well that's where
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Speaker 2: the union domination of projects start. If you have a
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Speaker 2: CFMU T shirt on and someone on the site's not
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Speaker 2: a member of the union or on the crane doesn't
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Speaker 2: have a CFMEU flag flying, the site doesn't work, gets
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Speaker 2: shut down union domination. Then what follows is unreasonable union
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Speaker 2: wage deals. If not, the whole site gets shut down.
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Speaker 2: The union runs conditions on every one of these sites, lunchrooms, bathrooms,
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Speaker 2: ross the days off to make a three day long
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Speaker 2: weekend I mean small beer to start with, big problems
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Speaker 2: if you don't play though by those union demands, the
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Speaker 2: union rules. And remember the money paying these blokes is
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Speaker 2: taxpayers money. And as the Herald Sun reports, this happened
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Speaker 2: on the twenty six billion dollar East North Northeast Link
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Speaker 2: still being built. By the way, the thirty four point
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Speaker 2: five billion dollar suburban rail loop which has hardly even started.
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Speaker 2: Big money, big honeypot for this union, and we deserve
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Speaker 2: to know what happened in full sight of the government
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Speaker 2: funding it. We need to know about the contracts. We
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Speaker 2: need to know who lobbied to shut down the ABCC.
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Speaker 2: It's time for all of this to come out of
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Speaker 2: the shadows. Let's bring in Liberal Senator James McGrath from Queensland.
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Speaker 2: James Labour's being accused of being week on this issue.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanez. He was in Queensland today. He was asked
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Speaker 2: about the growing calls to do the right thing and
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Speaker 2: de register this mob. Here was the PM's response.
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Speaker 7: If you do register a union, the union officials can
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Speaker 7: stay in place in an unregulated way. We don't want
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Speaker 7: that and I'm surprised that Peter Dutton seems to want
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Speaker 7: that to occur. What we want to do is make
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Speaker 7: sure that any corrupt officials are removed.
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Speaker 2: James, what what does that mean?
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Speaker 8: This is alban Easy being at his most weakness. Ever,
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Speaker 8: if he was a real Prime minister, like say Bob
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Speaker 8: Hawk who de registered the BLF, Albanesi would have SUD
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Speaker 8: have no problem about standing up to the thugs in
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Speaker 8: the CFU. There's absolute nonsense what he is sprouting at
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Speaker 8: the moment. It just shows how weak he is. And
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Speaker 8: it just also shows that money talks in politics. And
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Speaker 8: there's six point two million reasons why Albanese is not
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Speaker 8: going to stand up for CFM you, and that's because
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Speaker 8: that's six point two million dollars that went from the
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Speaker 8: CU to the Labor Party since Albanese has been Prime minister.
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Speaker 2: Go back to when the Labor government was elected. I
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Speaker 2: mean they promised during the election campaign to get rid
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Speaker 2: of the cop on the beat the ab CC and
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Speaker 2: they said, oh, well, they were just you know, picking
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Speaker 2: on people who had c FM EU T shirts on
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Speaker 2: or Eureka stockade stickers on their helmet. No they weren't.
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Speaker 2: They were actually in there trying to make sure that
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Speaker 2: these projects were properly managed and that there was not
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Speaker 2: corruption on building sites.
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Speaker 8: Totally. And you look at why John Howard first brought
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Speaker 8: it in and then reintroduced under Tony Abbott. There is
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Speaker 8: a reason why we have to have the cop on
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Speaker 8: the beat and that is because of the cf MEU.
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Speaker 5: And there is a.
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Speaker 8: Reason why Labor abolished it twice, and that's because the
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Speaker 8: CFU are their paymasters. I speak to you from Queensland,
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Speaker 8: where we've got all these projects that have gone massfully
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Speaker 8: up in costs because of the demands of the CMU.
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Speaker 8: You speak to anyone who's in the construction sector across
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Speaker 8: Australia and they know how corrupt and how dodgy the
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Speaker 8: CMU is. And it hasn't just happened in the last day.
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Speaker 8: This has been going on for years. So for the
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Speaker 8: Prime Minister or Tony Burke or anyone in the Labor
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Speaker 8: Party to express sort of some oscar driven shock at Oh,
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Speaker 8: we didn't know these people are corrupt is absolute bs.
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Speaker 8: Everybody everyone knows they're corrupt, and that's why we needed
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Speaker 8: the Australian Building Construction Commission on the beat.
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Speaker 2: James, I mean, as I understand it. I mean Queeny's
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Speaker 2: got an election in October. The CFMEU has not been deregistered,
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Speaker 2: but it's been put in administration in places like New
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Speaker 2: South Wales, Victoria and that spills into South Australia, but
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Speaker 2: not in Queensland. So presumably they're not in administration, they
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Speaker 2: can continue to operate financially. What do you make of that?
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Speaker 8: It shows who are owned Stephen Miles. The only reason
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Speaker 8: Stephen Miles became premier was because of the union bosses.
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Speaker 8: They all had a meeting decided to get rid of Palichet,
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Speaker 8: and the CFM of you were intrinsically involved in the
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Speaker 8: machinations to get rid of Palachee. Stephen Miles is of
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Speaker 8: the left, the cf you are of the left. They're
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Speaker 8: in this together. The scary thing for Queensland is should
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Speaker 8: Labor win the election in one hundred days time, that
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Speaker 8: means that Stephen Miles and the CFM of you will
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Speaker 8: be running a mark. It shows to Queensland that Stephen
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Speaker 8: Miles is all about himself, all about his union mates,
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Speaker 8: and is not about the taxpayers and the voters of Queensland.
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Speaker 8: It is shameful.
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Speaker 2: We had a couple of members of that union in
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Speaker 2: the Federal Court today. It was a case that goes
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Speaker 2: back a couple of years. They'd obstructed a crane that
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Speaker 2: was trying to work on a union site. The court
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Speaker 2: find the union one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. But
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Speaker 2: at the same time, the minister who's now the premier
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Speaker 2: to Sendor Allen of the Socialist Left, whose husband happens
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Speaker 2: to be an ex CFM EU member. She says, I
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Speaker 2: didn't know any of this was happening. No, I'm completely shocked.
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Speaker 2: She's been the minister for all of those projects, all
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Speaker 2: of those major big build projects. She was the minister
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Speaker 2: responsible where all the trouble was happening. Had a letter
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Speaker 2: written to her from an Indigenous labor higher firm complaining
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Speaker 2: about bullying, and she took a year to reply.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm impressed that she replied at all, considering her
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Speaker 8: links to the union and the links to the Labor
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Speaker 8: Party of the Union, and it probably was one of
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Speaker 8: those letters that has said we acknowledge you for the
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Speaker 8: fact you've sent us a letter. But this is I
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Speaker 8: cannot emphasize this enough. The links between the Labor Party
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Speaker 8: and the CMU run deep, and the main reason it
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Speaker 8: is because of the money that goes from the CU
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Speaker 8: to the Labor Party. So whether it's the Premier in
20:07
Speaker 8: Victoria or the Premier here in Queensland, or Tony Burke
20:10
Speaker 8: or Anthony Albanesi or Sally McManus, for any of these
20:14
Speaker 8: people to say they're unaware of the conduct of the
20:16
Speaker 8: CVMU just says to me, what rock have you been
20:20
Speaker 8: hiding under? Seriously, there is what rock. Queensland is hurting
20:27
Speaker 8: because of the CIM, Australia is hurting because of the CMU,
20:30
Speaker 8: and we've got a prime minister and we've got labor
20:32
Speaker 8: premiers around this country who are not standing up to
20:36
Speaker 8: these thugs. Someone needs to dig up Bob Hawk and
20:39
Speaker 8: bring him back and show Anthony Albanasi how to be
20:43
Speaker 8: a labor prime minister and stand up to the thugs
20:46
Speaker 8: in the Union movement.
20:50
Speaker 5: Now, Senator, I'm not pulling your leg.
20:52
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen in the press club yesterday actually said that
20:55
Speaker 2: this would not be a bad idea that Australians will
20:57
Speaker 2: be able to use their electric vehicles to charge their
21:01
Speaker 2: homes and be paid to put their cars stored energy
21:06
Speaker 2: back into the electricity grid under this proposal that Chris
21:09
Speaker 2: Bowen said would work. He wants this rolled out. I
21:14
Speaker 2: almost can't believe I'm saying this. Over the next year
21:17
Speaker 2: or so. Where are we living? What planet are we
21:20
Speaker 2: living on? I mean, how could this possibly work? And
21:23
Speaker 2: when you think about it, I mean I had to
21:24
Speaker 2: think about this today. So to be suburbs like tu
21:27
Speaker 2: Rak or Willaa in Sydney, the richest suburbs in the country.
21:30
Speaker 2: They'd all have their teslas pumping energy into the grid
21:34
Speaker 2: and being paid by the taxpayer to do it, where
21:36
Speaker 2: everybody who lives out in a normal working class suburb
21:39
Speaker 2: Western Melbourne or Western Sydney or wherever, they just be
21:43
Speaker 2: paying more for their power bill.
21:47
Speaker 8: Margaret Thatcher said, when socialists run out of money, they
21:51
Speaker 8: come after yours, or under Chris Bowen, when labor run
21:54
Speaker 8: out of energy, they come after your electricity. This is
21:58
Speaker 8: one of the stupidest, dumbest, craziest ideas I've ever heard of.
22:03
Speaker 8: This is beyond April Fool's parody. The fact that Pete,
22:07
Speaker 8: You're going to power up the ev drive around and
22:11
Speaker 8: then come back and then power up your house. I
22:14
Speaker 8: want to say to labor, you don't need electric vehicles
22:17
Speaker 8: to do that. We've got these wonderful things called.
22:19
Speaker 4: Coal and gas.
22:21
Speaker 8: Let's bring in nuclear. Hell, let's have solar, let's have wind.
22:26
Speaker 8: Let's how that's how you power people's houses, not electric vehicles.
22:30
Speaker 8: This is something out of It's beyond yes, Minister, it's
22:34
Speaker 8: beyond utopia. This is just this is stupid. It's stupid,
22:40
Speaker 8: and he is taking the Australians for a ride with
22:43
Speaker 8: this type of madness. The sooner we get rid of
22:46
Speaker 8: this labor government the better.
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Speaker 2: Well, when you go out in your electric car, I
22:51
Speaker 2: don't have one and I don't intend to buy one
22:53
Speaker 2: because I don't like them. But you would go out.
22:56
Speaker 2: So you went on a trip from Brisbane down to
22:58
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast and back on a Saturday because you
23:00
Speaker 2: wanted to have a surfer, You wanted to go down
23:02
Speaker 2: and sit on the beach for a while. When you
23:04
Speaker 2: get back home, the car has less electricity in the
23:08
Speaker 2: battery than what you're left with, so you've got to
23:10
Speaker 2: recharge it. You're not putting electricity back into the grid.
23:14
Speaker 2: So what's Bowen actually talking about here? So I just
23:19
Speaker 2: can't believe that someone who you know, he has to
23:22
Speaker 2: be reasonably smart to be where he is in public life,
23:26
Speaker 2: but he's turning into a full mate.
23:33
Speaker 8: He's depriving a village somewhere of their idiot. For someone
23:36
Speaker 8: to come up with an idea like this and say
23:39
Speaker 8: it out loud at the National Press Club and expect
23:42
Speaker 8: Australians to go what You're going to power a car
23:46
Speaker 8: out of the grid, drive around, it's going to come
23:48
Speaker 8: back empty, and then you're going to power the house.
23:51
Speaker 8: This guy, he's one step away from all of us
23:53
Speaker 8: putting a hamster wheels in our house to make sure
23:56
Speaker 8: that's how we power up our TVs and our heaters
23:59
Speaker 8: in the middle of inter This guy should not be
24:01
Speaker 8: sitting around a cabinet table. He shouldn't be sitting around
24:04
Speaker 8: a kitchen table. You know, he should be sent out
24:06
Speaker 8: somewhere and just be painting rocks white. That is his
24:09
Speaker 8: level of experience. I wouldn't trust him with a toaster
24:12
Speaker 8: or anything else.
24:15
Speaker 2: So gra great to catch up. Thank you very much
24:17
Speaker 2: for your time. Now after the break, another council moves
24:20
Speaker 2: to change the date of Australia Day. Here we go again.
24:23
Speaker 2: We do not normally wait to December to have these conversations.
24:26
Speaker 2: Plus a treaty for Victoria is one step closer to
24:30
Speaker 2: becoming reality. Welcome back Steve Price in for Shari, who
24:39
Speaker 2: will be back on Sky next Tuesday. Now, I want
24:42
Speaker 2: to go regional in our double regional Council, which is
24:45
Speaker 2: of course in the central western New South Wales. Will
24:47
Speaker 2: they've come out and recommended shifting Australia Day celebrations from
24:51
Speaker 2: January twenty six, which this year is a Monday, to
24:54
Speaker 2: January twenty four, So I think January twenty six must
24:58
Speaker 2: be the Sunday. They want to do it on the
25:00
Speaker 2: twenty fourth, a reverse long weekend if you like. Seriously,
25:04
Speaker 2: can't these local councils and I keep saying this, concentrate
25:07
Speaker 2: on their cool businesses. I bet the state of the
25:10
Speaker 2: roads out west heading to Dubbo and heading past Dubbo
25:14
Speaker 2: are not that great.
25:16
Speaker 5: All the rural.
25:16
Speaker 2: Roads in Australia at the moment suffer from major potholes
25:20
Speaker 2: no matter which state you're in. Councils have simply run
25:23
Speaker 2: out of money. State governments haven't got money and so
25:25
Speaker 2: they're not repairing them now. The mayor of Dubbo Blow
25:28
Speaker 2: called Matthew Dickerson, says the reasons for the proposed change
25:31
Speaker 2: of date was quote convenience for council staff. Hello, as
25:37
Speaker 2: well as quote aboriginal sensitivity. What about honoring your country
25:42
Speaker 2: on the day designated for it until a government in
25:46
Speaker 2: Canberra chooses to shift the date and then you can
25:49
Speaker 2: do it on that date. Joining me to discuss this
25:51
Speaker 2: is the Center for Independent Studies Indigenous Forum director Warren Mundine.
25:57
Speaker 2: Great to see you again, haven't spoken for a while.
26:01
Speaker 2: For an Indigenous and non Indigenous people in Dubbo would
26:04
Speaker 2: have had more important things to think about and fix
26:08
Speaker 2: than this they do.
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Speaker 5: This council is totally out of touch.
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Speaker 9: It actually has a bit embarrassing for me because I
26:16
Speaker 9: was a long term Dubbo City councilor and I was
26:20
Speaker 9: Deputy Mayor of Dubbo for a while. This council is
26:25
Speaker 9: totally out at a touch. I'm sick and tired of
26:29
Speaker 9: councils making up their own minds when to celebrate Australia Day.
26:33
Speaker 9: Australia Day is a national holiday for all Australians. Now
26:38
Speaker 9: what do they do if Anzac Day falls on a Sunday?
26:42
Speaker 9: Are they going to change Anzac Day? Are they going
26:43
Speaker 9: to change every holiday just because it's convenient for their
26:47
Speaker 9: for the council staff now offenses mate, but it is
26:51
Speaker 9: our national holiday. Earlier this year we had Woolworths and
26:56
Speaker 9: a number of other corporates who are actually you know,
26:59
Speaker 9: don't actually want to support and celebrate Australia Day, didn't
27:03
Speaker 9: want to even put out banners or anything like that. Look,
27:06
Speaker 9: all I'm going to say is Matthew Dickinson. And I
27:08
Speaker 9: know Matthew. He was on the council in Isaiah over
27:11
Speaker 9: twenty years ago.
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Speaker 5: Is that he's still there. He's still there. Well, I
27:17
Speaker 5: don't know what he does for a living, but he's
27:18
Speaker 5: still there.
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Speaker 9: My suggestion is stick to the public holidays. Celebrate Australia
27:25
Speaker 9: instead of worrying about you know, some minority who's worried
27:29
Speaker 9: about this and worried about actually bring Australians together and
27:34
Speaker 9: celebrate this incredible country, this multicultural, multi faith, multi everything
27:40
Speaker 9: you can think about, ethnic group. We brought people from
27:43
Speaker 9: all over the world and we've built this incredible.
27:45
Speaker 5: Great country.
27:46
Speaker 9: And you know, and for over more than fifty years
27:48
Speaker 9: we've got rid of all the race laws.
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Speaker 10: Here.
27:50
Speaker 9: We bend over backwards to celebrate things. Why can't we
27:54
Speaker 9: just celebrate us being together.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's a double form a Dubbo resident and someone
28:02
Speaker 2: who knows the town so well. And I've been to Dubbo.
28:05
Speaker 2: It's a great regional town of New South Wales. It
28:09
Speaker 2: has so much potential, but it does have problems. So
28:13
Speaker 2: the council should concentrate on doing the things that's voted
28:18
Speaker 2: in to do, which is pick up the rubbish, look
28:21
Speaker 2: after the roads, try and keep the rates as low
28:23
Speaker 2: as possible, make sure that they put pressure on state
28:26
Speaker 2: governments to give the region decent health care. Campaigning about
28:31
Speaker 2: things like this is just nonsensical.
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Speaker 9: Well, it's a divisive it's insanity, it's sacrimonious.
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Speaker 5: You're right.
28:41
Speaker 9: We had when everyone was talking about what was happening
28:43
Speaker 9: in Alice Springs and what was happening in Northern Terrety,
28:46
Speaker 9: Northern Queenslana, around Cairns and towns and other places through
28:50
Speaker 9: the Kimbles, and it was also happening in Dubbo. It
28:53
Speaker 9: was also happening in the western part of New South Wales.
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Speaker 9: If Dubbo was really you know, wants to bring people together,
29:03
Speaker 9: Australia Day is a perfect day to do it.
29:05
Speaker 5: It's about all of us.
29:06
Speaker 9: Coming together, focusing on what's good about Dabba, was good
29:10
Speaker 9: about Australia and actually make people proud of this country
29:14
Speaker 9: so that we're all working together to make it a
29:16
Speaker 9: better place.
29:17
Speaker 5: Rather than look, I think.
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Speaker 9: We should move it because we'd like to have a
29:22
Speaker 9: nice long weekend or anything about it is not about
29:25
Speaker 9: a long weekend. It's about the celebrating the wonderful people
29:29
Speaker 9: in this country, all the migrants who come here, all
29:32
Speaker 9: the people here like myself have been here for thousands
29:34
Speaker 9: of years. It's about bringing it all together and making
29:38
Speaker 9: this country even better.
29:41
Speaker 2: Warren, you mentioned Alice Springs. It must break your heart
29:44
Speaker 2: to again see what's happening in the Red Center. We
29:47
Speaker 2: had a number of police officers who were assaulted by
29:51
Speaker 2: an indigenous group on the banks of the Todd River.
29:54
Speaker 2: Had to put back in the curfew. Then the curfew
29:56
Speaker 2: goes off. I mean, if the curfew works, leave the
29:59
Speaker 2: body curfew. Why are we talking about putting it on
30:03
Speaker 2: taking it off? If it works, is there not a
30:05
Speaker 2: reason to leave it?
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Speaker 5: Look, excuse me.
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Speaker 9: The curfew is brought in because of the failures of
30:13
Speaker 9: government after government after government at the federal and territory
30:17
Speaker 9: level to dealing with the real issues of what happening
30:20
Speaker 9: in these communities out there. You know, the curfew was
30:24
Speaker 9: brought on because it is a measure to get control
30:28
Speaker 9: of the streets again, and it did that.
30:30
Speaker 5: So you're right, we need to keep the curfews.
30:32
Speaker 9: Rolling gone and making sure that the streets are safe.
30:36
Speaker 5: That's only the beginning.
30:38
Speaker 9: The second part of that is to deal with the
30:40
Speaker 9: real issues of why there are problems there, and that
30:43
Speaker 9: is to look at those remote communities, look at why
30:46
Speaker 9: they're coming into Alice Springs, look at the problems in
30:48
Speaker 9: Alice Springs, and I I've got a paper coming out
30:51
Speaker 9: soon about my solution to this one. Get every kid
30:55
Speaker 9: to school percent of the time. Get every kid to
31:00
Speaker 9: school and get an education so they have opportunities in
31:03
Speaker 9: life to get jobs, to run a business and do things.
31:06
Speaker 9: You know, without education, you know, you can't improve your
31:09
Speaker 9: situation and can't improve your life too. Get jobs, get
31:14
Speaker 9: investment in that. And you can't get jobs and investment
31:17
Speaker 9: and businesses going to these places unless you control crime.
31:22
Speaker 9: So the second and third part is businesses jobs. The
31:27
Speaker 9: third part is get the seats safe, make sure the
31:31
Speaker 9: police are out there, support the police in their doing
31:34
Speaker 9: their job and making the community safe, and the rule
31:37
Speaker 9: of law to be enforced. And the final thing is
31:41
Speaker 9: there are more you know, one stage back in the
31:43
Speaker 9: eighties there was more money going into Alice Springs and
31:46
Speaker 9: the for Averiginal people than the entire New South Wales.
31:50
Speaker 9: So you've got to start asking questions. You know, this
31:52
Speaker 9: community is what twenty six thousand people are.
31:55
Speaker 5: So what's happened to all that money? What's what? What's
32:00
Speaker 5: the services that were paid to do X to fix things?
32:04
Speaker 5: Have they done x? You know? Senator sent an.
32:10
Speaker 9: Price and send it a little and even supported by
32:14
Speaker 9: Senator Lydia for put a motion up in Parliament that
32:17
Speaker 9: they should have an inquiry, a performers inquiry about where
32:21
Speaker 9: the money is gone, has it achieved what it's supposed
32:23
Speaker 9: to be doing because it obviously hasn't, and how do
32:26
Speaker 9: we fix all these things? And the Greens and the
32:29
Speaker 9: Labor Party and some of the cross benches voted against it.
32:33
Speaker 5: It's a common sense approach, you know. I do this
32:36
Speaker 5: in business every week.
32:37
Speaker 9: Everyone that we do check things out and make sure
32:41
Speaker 9: that they're working.
32:42
Speaker 5: So they should be doing the same thing.
32:46
Speaker 2: That's the problem, Warren Munday, and you talk too much
32:48
Speaker 2: common sense. Great to catch up with you, and I
32:51
Speaker 2: think your ideas absolutely need to be prosecuted. That's warrem undine.
32:54
Speaker 2: They're plenty to come after the break beach is closed.
32:57
Speaker 2: You won't believe this after an offshore wind irvine crumbles
33:01
Speaker 2: into pieces and falls into the sea. Is this what
33:04
Speaker 2: we can look forward to under Chris Bowen's Green Dream?
33:07
Speaker 4: Plus?
33:08
Speaker 2: My panel have joined me up next, Welcome back Steve Price,
33:16
Speaker 2: Infshari Markson and don't forget. Of course, Donald Trump's addressed
33:20
Speaker 2: to the Republican Convention will be tomorrow. You'll be able
33:23
Speaker 2: to see it right here on Sky Live. I presume
33:26
Speaker 2: it'll be about the surround about the same time as
33:28
Speaker 2: Jodie Vance spoke today, which was somewhere between eleven am
33:32
Speaker 2: and midday Eastern time in Australia. So that'll be live
33:36
Speaker 2: here on Sky It's going to be fascinating to see
33:38
Speaker 2: what mood he brings to that speech. Let's bring in
33:41
Speaker 2: tonight's panel. Joining me is National Affairs editor at the
33:44
Speaker 2: Australian newspaper Joe Kelly and commentator and my old mate
33:48
Speaker 2: Jason Morrison. Great to have you both with us. Can
33:51
Speaker 2: I ask you, Joe first, what did you make of JD.
33:54
Speaker 2: Vance today?
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Speaker 11: Well, look, I didn't see j. D. Vans today, Steve,
34:01
Speaker 11: but I think that he's very aligned with a lot
34:07
Speaker 11: of the trumpest philosophy, even though he may have had
34:11
Speaker 11: initial concerns, particularly when it comes to foreign policy. I
34:16
Speaker 11: think that there are risks though with him, and I
34:19
Speaker 11: think the questions about divisiveness in American society, and I
34:26
Speaker 11: think one of the ways we saw that was when
34:30
Speaker 11: jd Vance, following the attempted assassination on Donald Trump, put
34:35
Speaker 11: the blame squarely at the feet of the Democrats and
34:38
Speaker 11: Joe Biden for their rhetoric. Now, I think some of
34:41
Speaker 11: the criticism of Donald Trump was over the top, but
34:45
Speaker 11: I think that comment, which in large part I think
34:47
Speaker 11: helped seal jd Vance for that vice presidential pick for
34:52
Speaker 11: Donald Trump, was quite divisive and his selection is very revealing.
34:57
Speaker 7: I believe Steve.
35:00
Speaker 2: Jason, europe and News junkie, you would have seen a
35:02
Speaker 2: bit of it today. He started slowly. I thought, I
35:05
Speaker 2: thought he might have been a bit more of a firecracker,
35:07
Speaker 2: but like all good speakers, he wound up. I thought
35:10
Speaker 2: he ended pretty well. It was a lot of emotion there.
35:13
Speaker 2: His mother, who he's described as having historically a drug
35:17
Speaker 2: addiction problem, she was in the audience. It was very US,
35:20
Speaker 2: very American.
35:22
Speaker 4: It was. It's a remarkable story.
35:23
Speaker 12: And you know, for all that is said, you look
35:26
Speaker 12: in the history of nations, including our own, we're shaped
35:30
Speaker 12: in better times by people who are prepared to put
35:32
Speaker 12: their lives.
35:33
Speaker 4: On the line for their country.
35:34
Speaker 12: And I think that's something that has been missing a
35:37
Speaker 12: lot in American politics.
35:38
Speaker 4: For a long time.
35:39
Speaker 12: Probably not enough of them in the Senate, enough of
35:41
Speaker 12: them in the reps, and in Australia a similar story.
35:45
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem at all with the man's background.
35:47
Speaker 12: In fact, I think that kind of you know, we
35:49
Speaker 12: hear diversity thrown around this as the word of the moment.
35:53
Speaker 4: That is diversity.
35:54
Speaker 12: Someone who's come from a rotten upbringing, has brought themselves
35:58
Speaker 12: through the walls of it and then gone to serve
36:00
Speaker 12: the country and now putting the hell up to do
36:02
Speaker 12: it again.
36:02
Speaker 4: I think it's amazing. And you can say what.
36:04
Speaker 12: You like about the man's politics, and he's speaking capabilities,
36:07
Speaker 12: he'll connect with a lot of Americans at the time
36:09
Speaker 12: when a lot of Americans need connection.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he speaks honestly about that background. He's not
36:17
Speaker 2: using it. I don't think, you know, as a self promotion.
36:20
Speaker 2: He talks about how mates of his who he went
36:22
Speaker 2: to high school with they ended up being junkies and
36:26
Speaker 2: died overdosing on drugs. You know, you can take the
36:30
Speaker 2: road to the left or the road to the right,
36:32
Speaker 2: not politically, but you can make yourself a better person.
36:36
Speaker 2: You can go and join the Marines, you can fight
36:38
Speaker 2: for your country, you can become good enough to go
36:40
Speaker 2: to Yale Law School and then you run your own
36:42
Speaker 2: venture capitalist business. I mean, Joe, they're the sort of
36:46
Speaker 2: people I mean, put to one side, perhaps some of
36:50
Speaker 2: his more sort of right views, they're the sort of
36:53
Speaker 2: people you're wanting politics. You look at the people occupying
36:57
Speaker 2: political jobs in Australia these days and you know, on
37:00
Speaker 2: the labor side most of them have been worked their
37:03
Speaker 2: way up through the Labor Party and those on the
37:07
Speaker 2: Liberal side are either lawyers. Doton's a bit of an
37:09
Speaker 2: exception being a copper, but we don't have enough real
37:12
Speaker 2: life experience in our parliament.
37:14
Speaker 11: Well, I think that's right, Steve. I think this goes
37:18
Speaker 11: to that idea of American exceptionalism, America being the land
37:22
Speaker 11: of opportunity and making something of yourself. And in terms
37:29
Speaker 11: of Australia's political system, I think that we see far
37:33
Speaker 11: too many politicians essentially being products of their respective political machines,
37:39
Speaker 11: so being staffers or indeed on the later side of politics,
37:43
Speaker 11: just simply coming up through the union movement. And the
37:48
Speaker 11: lack of outside experience I think is something that.
37:52
Speaker 4: Voters are aware of.
37:54
Speaker 11: I think they like a sense of authenticity and they
37:57
Speaker 11: like Australians who have real world experience, and I do
38:02
Speaker 11: think that is something that is slowly missing from Australian
38:05
Speaker 11: politics at the moment.
38:08
Speaker 12: Hey, Steve, I'm Jason about this talk about Yeah, I
38:11
Speaker 12: was just going to say, in Australian politics, people with
38:13
Speaker 12: real world experience are about as.
38:15
Speaker 4: Scarce as astronauts. It's a joke. And that is desperately
38:19
Speaker 4: what we need.
38:19
Speaker 12: And Trump's brand is an outsider, and He's brought another
38:22
Speaker 12: outsider into it.
38:23
Speaker 4: I think it's fantastic.
38:26
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the CFMMEU. Jason, you've been around long enough.
38:29
Speaker 2: You and I both have been in television radio wherever
38:32
Speaker 2: we've covered union stories, standover tactics, you know, concrete pause
38:37
Speaker 2: that get interrupted at nine o'clock in the morning because
38:39
Speaker 2: the done he doesn't work on a CFMEU side of
38:42
Speaker 2: what else? We can give a million examples. How is
38:44
Speaker 2: it that no labor politician in the whole country had
38:47
Speaker 2: ever heard about the fact that the CFME MEU might
38:50
Speaker 2: be crook.
38:51
Speaker 12: Follow the money, follow the vote, simple as that they
38:55
Speaker 12: need the votes, the support of the CFMU types to
38:57
Speaker 12: get to their roles, and then the.
38:59
Speaker 4: Money to stay in power. That's the answer.
39:02
Speaker 12: It's sick and this kind of I can't believe it
39:05
Speaker 12: when watching Sally McManus.
39:07
Speaker 4: Kind of carry on like I just never knew it
39:09
Speaker 4: was this bad. Really, Like what channel you been watching?
39:13
Speaker 12: Even the ABC has been telling you for a while,
39:15
Speaker 12: has been pretty shit house. It is extraordinary that this
39:18
Speaker 12: has become for most people in politics, a week of
39:21
Speaker 12: awakening rubbish. Everyone knows what's been going on. It's been
39:25
Speaker 12: going on for a very very long time. And all
39:28
Speaker 12: those things you've talked about, they are commonplace, and they
39:32
Speaker 12: go through waves of being kind of controlled and whatever,
39:35
Speaker 12: perhaps when the governments are in or out and the
39:37
Speaker 12: labors of the back benches and whatever else. But the
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Speaker 12: whole joke of it is that every person in that house,
39:43
Speaker 12: on the labor side knows this game.
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Speaker 4: And to be pretending otherwise.
39:48
Speaker 12: I mean, really, do you think we're all We've got
39:51
Speaker 12: manure idea in between our ears?
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Speaker 4: Is that what you think? Joe?
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Speaker 2: What did you make of Tony burkein and the prime
39:59
Speaker 2: ministers react to this?
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Speaker 11: Well, look, I think there's a very deep level of irony.
40:08
Speaker 11: But perhaps hypocrisy is a better word. Steve Alban Easy
40:13
Speaker 11: and labor were elected partly on a platform of integrity.
40:18
Speaker 11: We're going to do things differently, We'll change politics, will
40:21
Speaker 11: clean the place up. So they got into government and
40:24
Speaker 11: they established a National Anti Corruption Commission, but at the
40:27
Speaker 11: same time they decided that they were they were going
40:31
Speaker 11: to remove the Australian Building and Construction Commission, the tough
40:34
Speaker 11: cop on the beat in the building sector. And then
40:38
Speaker 11: they decided that they would reward the union movement by
40:42
Speaker 11: passing a whole series of industrial relations reforms giving the
40:47
Speaker 11: unions exactly what they wanted, changing right of entry arrangements,
40:52
Speaker 11: the definition of casuals, labor higher arrangements. So I think
40:57
Speaker 11: that there is a very deep level of hypocrisy and
41:00
Speaker 11: irony to this. I agree with Jason's comments that I
41:02
Speaker 11: don't think really anybody you know on the later side
41:05
Speaker 11: of politics could have been surprised by any of this.
41:08
Speaker 11: And I think what it does is it shines a
41:10
Speaker 11: spotlight on the fact that labor has only promised to
41:15
Speaker 11: or take an action to fight corruption in areas convenient
41:19
Speaker 11: for them, and they have delivered in spades for the
41:23
Speaker 11: union movement, including the CFMEU, since they were elected to government.
41:30
Speaker 2: Jason, knowing you were coming on tonight. I deliberately searched
41:34
Speaker 2: out this story. We've got a beach in the United
41:36
Speaker 2: States rolls to close you can't swim in summertime because
41:41
Speaker 2: a giant offshore wind turbine blade broke off, smashed itself apart,
41:47
Speaker 2: and were washed ashore. And we're worried little Johnny or
41:51
Speaker 2: little Jenny are going to step on the blade on
41:53
Speaker 2: the bottom of the ocean. This is unbelievable.
41:56
Speaker 4: Yes, comedy stuff, isn't it comedy?
41:59
Speaker 12: But you know that scene has coming to a beach
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Speaker 12: near you in eastern Australia because the genius Chris Bowen
42:06
Speaker 12: has exactly that plan.
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Speaker 4: For offshore New South Wales at the moment.
42:10
Speaker 12: And in case you think that the windmills in America
42:13
Speaker 12: are big, you ain't seen nothing yet, because the ones
42:16
Speaker 12: coming for the East coast of Australia down south off
42:19
Speaker 12: Coyama and off the Hunter area of Newcastle as high
42:24
Speaker 12: as the Barangaroo Tower the size of it. They're going
42:27
Speaker 12: to be sitting on barges floating chain to the seafloor,
42:31
Speaker 12: with chain links on the chains that are as big
42:33
Speaker 12: as I am tall.
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Speaker 4: This is madness.
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Speaker 12: This is madness from a country there's got coal. This
42:40
Speaker 12: is madness from.
42:41
Speaker 4: A country that's got gas.
42:42
Speaker 12: This is madness from a country that exports uranium to
42:45
Speaker 12: the world to generate power. We've got all this stuff
42:48
Speaker 12: and we're committed to these fruit loop ideas of putting
42:52
Speaker 12: these things here and yeah, you know what you've got
42:55
Speaker 12: there in America with the polluted beaches from the bits
42:58
Speaker 12: and pieces, that's only half the story.
43:00
Speaker 4: Not to mention the mangle birds and everything they're flying
43:02
Speaker 4: and out of these things.
43:03
Speaker 12: It is comedy stuff, yet it's Commonwealth government policy.
43:08
Speaker 4: Explain that I knew you'd love it.
43:11
Speaker 2: Joe Bowen was at the Press Club yesterday and he
43:14
Speaker 2: endorsed this idea that you'd be able to get your
43:17
Speaker 2: electric vehicle at home, plug it into your house and
43:20
Speaker 2: keep your lights on and then export the power that
43:24
Speaker 2: you've got left over back into the grid. Is this
43:26
Speaker 2: bloke serious?
43:30
Speaker 11: Well, these are the sorts of policies that labor has
43:34
Speaker 11: to pursue, Steve. So they're caught between two worlds. On gas,
43:39
Speaker 11: they are opposed to nuclear. We have qualifired power stations
43:44
Speaker 11: preparing to exit from service. So Australia has systematically destroyed
43:50
Speaker 11: its comparative advantage and energy policy, and Labour's solution is
43:55
Speaker 11: to focus on renewables. So Chris Bowen's big initiative since
43:59
Speaker 11: he came to government, and he's had a huge influence
44:02
Speaker 11: over the character of this government. His big initiative is
44:05
Speaker 11: for a five fold increase in renewable energy by twenty thirty.
44:10
Speaker 11: So increasingly there'll be real life, practical differences and the
44:15
Speaker 11: way people will be living from day to day.
44:17
Speaker 4: And Chris Bowen has just.
44:19
Speaker 11: Given Australians a practical example of that.
44:21
Speaker 4: It's just it's just not going to happen.
44:24
Speaker 2: Jason Morrison, joke, Joe Kelly. I appreciate you both joining
44:28
Speaker 2: us tonight, Thanks very much. Having to have a good
44:31
Speaker 2: weekend now coming up after the break one in tent,
44:34
Speaker 2: this is a real crisis point for the hospitality industry.
44:37
Speaker 2: It's being revealed one in ten cafes are going to
44:40
Speaker 2: go broke over the coming year. We'll have that up next.
44:48
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Steve Price in for Shari James Morrow
44:50
Speaker 2: will be in for Paul Murray at the top of
44:52
Speaker 2: the hour. I keep saying cost of living crisis is
44:54
Speaker 2: the biggest issue in Australia. It certainly is that's what
44:57
Speaker 2: the next election will be fought over. Worrying data released
45:01
Speaker 2: today by creditor Watch has forecasts at almost one in
45:04
Speaker 2: ten cafes, coffee shops and restaurants is tipped to go
45:08
Speaker 2: broke be closed over the coming twelve months. Joining me
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Speaker 2: to discuss this, chief economist at creditor Watch, Anika Thompson, Anka,
45:15
Speaker 2: great research. You just need to walk around your own
45:18
Speaker 2: suburb and you can see that happening. I mean I
45:21
Speaker 2: walk up and down the dan and On Road end
45:24
Speaker 2: of Chapel Street and there's more empty shopfronts than there
45:27
Speaker 2: are ones that are open. Yeah, that's right, Steve.
45:31
Speaker 10: But what the cafe and restaurant sector is really experiencing
45:34
Speaker 10: now is a perfect storm of factors and unfortunately all
45:38
Speaker 10: negative factors here in them. They've got high intrast rates,
45:41
Speaker 10: which is impacting consumer demand and discretionary spending. But at
45:45
Speaker 10: the same time, the utilities bills are increasing, their rents
45:49
Speaker 10: are increasing, and their labor costs are increasing. So they've
45:53
Speaker 10: got costs increasing at the same time as demand is slowing,
45:57
Speaker 10: and that's really having a shocking impact in the rest
45:59
Speaker 10: of on a cafe sector.
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Speaker 2: At the moment, I think you you might be a
46:05
Speaker 2: little optimistic. I mean, I'm not an economist like you,
46:08
Speaker 2: but I would have thought one in ten might be
46:11
Speaker 2: a good news story. I think it might be higher.
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Speaker 10: Well, it'll be you know, it'll vary across. This isn't
46:19
Speaker 10: Australian wide figure that we're giving here, and very you know,
46:22
Speaker 10: depending on whether you're looking at CBD or regional areas.
46:24
Speaker 10: We're actually seeing regional areas perform better than some CBD
46:29
Speaker 10: areas and inner city areas, instent areas really stuff are
46:32
Speaker 10: because of high rents, whereas some of those areas and
46:35
Speaker 10: regional locations can can sort of get through this because
46:41
Speaker 10: their rents some as high. So you're right, like if
46:44
Speaker 10: you're walking downtown on Road in Chapel Street, you might
46:46
Speaker 10: see more than one in ten shops closing, your cafes
46:49
Speaker 10: and restaurants closing. Then you wouldn't say a regional area.
46:55
Speaker 2: Well, you're in the in the once great city of Melbourne.
46:57
Speaker 2: I mean, part of the problem for these business is
47:01
Speaker 2: that we had the biggest lockdowns during COVID in twenty
47:03
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty one. The CBD, as you'd know, and
47:08
Speaker 2: it could got hollowed out and a lot of the businesses,
47:11
Speaker 2: and particularly government departments where public servants work, they've not
47:16
Speaker 2: been forced to come back into the office. They're still
47:18
Speaker 2: allowed one or two days, maybe even three days a
47:21
Speaker 2: week to work from home. And so those little cafes suddenly,
47:25
Speaker 2: you know, probably only got twenty or thirty percent of
47:28
Speaker 2: the business they had pre COVID.
47:31
Speaker 10: Yeah, right, Melbourne's CBD has certainly seen less foot traffic
47:35
Speaker 10: come back in terms of office workers during the week.
47:39
Speaker 10: So what's happened is restaurants and cafes have seen just
47:42
Speaker 10: a structural change in the way their customers, you know,
47:47
Speaker 10: shop at they'll enter their premises. So in Melbourne's CBDs
47:51
Speaker 10: you're talking about specifically, you'd have less traffic during the week,
47:55
Speaker 10: but at nighttime and weekends you'd be still quite busy.
48:00
Speaker 10: But the problem is labor costs a lot more at
48:02
Speaker 10: nighttime and that weekend, so it sort of doesn't help
48:06
Speaker 10: your cash flow. You know, they're still experiencing a lot
48:09
Speaker 10: of pain because of that weekday trade is much lower
48:13
Speaker 10: than it was pre COVID.
48:17
Speaker 2: Well, Anika, thank you very much for joining us. You're
48:19
Speaker 2: absolutely correct, Thanks for joining us. Tonight, I must say
48:23
Speaker 2: I was talking to a restaurant owner who owns a
48:25
Speaker 2: number of restaurants in Melbourne, and he's paying up to
48:30
Speaker 2: sixty seventy dollars an hour to his barista. You know,
48:34
Speaker 2: if you've got to pay all your wages on top
48:37
Speaker 2: of that, that makes it even worse. Don't forget live
48:40
Speaker 2: coverage of the Republican Convention tomorrow on Sky from seven
48:43
Speaker 2: in the morning. I think Donald Trump will probably speak
48:46
Speaker 2: at around about eleven eleven thirty, that's when he'll speak.
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Speaker 2: James Morrow in tonight for Paul Murray