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Mega Edition: The Murder Trial Of Nicholas Tartaglione (5/13/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Nicholas Tartaglioni, the man that was in a jail cell
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with Jeffrey Epstein when Epstein allegedly tried to commit suicide
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the first time around, is getting ready to finally go
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on trial for what the government says was a quadruple murder.
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But before we even get to that, I still have
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big questions about what the hell this dude was doing
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in a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. And if that
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was all of it, it would be suspect enough. But folks,
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that's only scratching the surface. Not only was a man
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who was allegedly responsible for a quadruple murder put into
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a cell with a guy like Jeffrey Epstein, well, the
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footage from that time together in that cell just happens
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to magically disappear. And this comes after Jeffrey Epstein told
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people that his cellmate Tartaglioni beat him up. According to reports,
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the jail opened an investigation into those allegations, and they
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eventually cleared Tartaglioni, setting the narrative that in fact, Tartagleoni's
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a hero here of folks, and he tried to save
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Jeffrey Epstein's life. Never mind the fact that this big, gigantic,
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muscle bound, crazy psychopath was in the cell with Epstein
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when Epstein was allegedly about to kill himself. So why
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would this guy even let him get to the point
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where he would have a noose around his neck if
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he planned on stopping him? Nothing makes sense from the
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time that Jeffrey Epstein was in the cell with Nicholas Tartaglioni.
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It never made sense then and it doesn't make sense now.
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And unfortunately, we're never going to know the real story
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because Tartaglioni, well, he's certainly not going to tell us.
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And Jeffrey Epstein is burning in hell. Oh in the
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surveillance footage that's gone, that just happened to magically disappear,
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and we still have no explanation about it. Nobody got fired,
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nobody was brought up on charges. Who was in charge
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of the chain of custody and whoever was in charge
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of that chain of custody. Were they reprimanded? Do they
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still work for the jail? Oh? We don't know, because
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anytime you ask questions, the government says We'd love to
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help you out, but this is an ongoing investigation and
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we cannot give you those details as of now, and
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they'll keep doing that for oh, I don't know, eighty
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or ninety years or so. I mean, you would think
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more people would be enraged about this situation right here
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with Tartaglione than there are. People are just like ignoring this.
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And this is a very big part of this story,
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the fact that this dude was in the jail cell
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with Jeffrey Epstein, who should have been in a restricted
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area with nobody around him. Instead he's on a tier
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in general population with a quadruple murderer. I'm sorry, but
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that that seems like quite the coincidence to go along
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with all of the other stuff. So what was Tartaglioni
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doing in a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein in the
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first place. I've said it once and I'll say it
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a million more times. I think Tartaglioni's job was to
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send a message, and that message was one way or
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the other, you're going to die. Either you're going to
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kill yourself or me or someone like me is going
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to do the job. Because there's no other reason that
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I can figure out why Tartaglioni, of all people, was
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in that jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. And unfortunately, even
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though this trial's coming up, I highly doubt we'll ever know.
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Today's article is from Fox News headline Former NY cop
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ex Epstein cellmate faces quadruple murder trial after bodies found
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buried at his home. This article was authored by Chris Eberhardt.
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The quadri rup murder trial against an ex cop who
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shared a cell with Jeffrey Epstein begins this week after
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four bodies were found buried in the backyard of his
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New York home. In two thoy and sixteen, Nicholas Tartaglioni,
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fifty five, was allegedly selling cocaine, steroids, and other drugs
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after his two thousand and eight retirement from law enforcement,
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when he accused one of his associates, Martin Luna, of
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stealing more than two hundred thousand dollars from him. Federal
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prosecutors alleged and the guy that he accused and ended
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up killing, they all have cartel ties. So you know,
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when Tartaglioni gets to prison, it's going to be a
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rap for this dude. Imagine having the green light put
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on you by the cartel, as well as being a
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cop in prison or an ex cop, I should say
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in prison. Yeah, that's not going to be a fun trip.
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What you never seen the movie Tango in Cash. On
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April eleventh, twenty and sixteen, Tartan allegedly alured Luna to
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a bar in Orange County, New York, where Luna was
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accompanied by his nephew Miguel Luna, his niece's fiance, Urbana Santiago,
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and a family friend, Hector Gutiadas. All four men went
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missing after that, according to prosecutors, who said after Tartaglioni's
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arrest in December of twenty sixteen, that they were in
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the wrong place at the wrong time. Then federal prosecutor
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pre Baraja called the alleged murders a gangland style execution.
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Miguel Luna, Santiago, and Gutieredas weren't part of the alleged
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drug running operation, according to family and prosecutors. And that's true.
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They were there with their boy and they just happened
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to get caught up in this shit. And that's why
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the drug game is so dangerous. It's not just you
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that you're bringing into it. It's your family, your loved one,
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your friends, because at any point it could be on right,
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Tartaglioni allegedly zip tied Martin Luna and dragged him to
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the property about twenty miles from the bar, where he
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was allegedly murdered. Alleged co conspirators helped Tartaglioni force the
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three other men to the property, where they were fatally
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shot and buried with Martin Luna. According to court papers
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and previous statements by federal prosecutors, Tartaglioni faces life in
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prison if convicted. Although prosecutors initially intended on seeking the
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death penalty against him, last year, Attorney General Merrick Garland
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reversed that decision. Now, the cynic in me would look
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at that and say, was that some pay for play.
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If you do this job for us and you go
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and pass on this quote unquote message for Jeffrey Epstein,
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we'll make sure that you don't get the death penalty. Now. Look,
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I don't know if that's the case, right, but I
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don't put it past the people. That's where I'm at
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when it comes to all of this, and it's their
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own fault. They have not been transparent at all throughout
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any of this, and then to have the gall to
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tell me that the video disappeared. I'd be a lot
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more inclined to believe that if the government had a
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track record of being honest and transparent when it came
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to stuff like this, and they certainly do not have
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that track record, So why should I believe them. We're
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gonna need video evidence at this point. And if you
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have that video evidence that that liar Bill Barr was
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talking about, let's see it. There is no reason under
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the sun, not one, why that video shouldn't be shown
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or at least be part of the public conversation. There's
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no national security risk here. Jeffrey Epstein's dead, So what
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are they so worried about? And why aren't they being
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open and transparent. Tartaglioni's case went from an alleged Grizzly
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Rugg related quadruple homicide in Lower New York State to
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national news when he became cellmates with Epstein in the
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Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. On July twenty third, twenty nineteen.
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Epstein was found in his prison cell, semi conscious and
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balled up in the fetal position with marks on his neck,
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and there were accusations that Tartaglioni roughed them up. Yeah,
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by Epstein himself. There's a lot of people, if you
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go back to that point in time when it was happening,
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that were convinced that Tartaglioni roughed them up. And I'm
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one of those people. I don't think Jeffrey Epstein tried
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to kill himself, not this time, the second time around,
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when he actually died. Look, that's up for debate. I
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haven't seen any video evidence one way or the other.
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There's a lot of questions that need to be answered though,
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I'll tell you that much, But I'm very agnostic on
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all of it. I want to see the evidence. I'm
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not interested in the BS. I'm interested in the actual
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facts and what happened in that jail cell. He was questioned,
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but the former cop and his lawyer fought the accusations
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and charges were never filed. A dark cloud of suspicion
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still lingers over the incident because video surveillance footage was
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mistakenly deleted by prison staff and Tartaglioni was inexplicably found
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with a cell phone. Yeah, folks, nothing suspect about any
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of this. Just keep moving. If you think that this
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is suspect, then you obviously believe in Bigfoot, the flat
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earth theory, lizard people, all of it. Meanwhile, back in reality,
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the real conspiracy theorists at this point are the people
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who are denying that something is gravely wrong here. Epstein
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died of an apparent suicide the next month, on August tenth,
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twenty nineteen. But Tartaglioni wasn't in the cell at that time. No,
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he was not. Epstein was alone in that cell allegedly
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when he allegedly killed himself. But I've always thought that
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Tartaglioni's role in this was to send a message, and
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if my theory holds, message well received. After Epstein's death,
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the former police officer requested a transfer to a different prison,
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claiming he was being harassed by prison guards. According to
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court documents, there were other allegations that Tartaglioni was assaulted
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by corrections officers. According to court papers, the clear message
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mister Tartaglioni has received is that if he conveys information
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about the facility or about the recent suicide, there will
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be a price to pay. His attorney, Bruce Barkett, wrote
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in a letter to the judge, the continuing and seemingly
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unresolvable problems with the conditions of mister Tartaglioni's confinement, coupled
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with the unfortunate attempted suicide by a cell mate to
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which mister Tartaglioni a critical witness, and the successful suicide
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of that same person, makes his continued detention at the
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MCC inappropriate. So the only witness, huh for the first
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time around, and again very convenient that the cameras just
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happened to not be working, and whatever surveillance was taken,
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well that was deleted. But there's nothing to see here.
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Everything is on the up and up. Jerry selection in
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the quadruple murder case began in New York Federal Court
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in Westchester County, just outside of New York City this week.
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Tartaglioni has pleaded not guilty to all charges. Well, you
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can certainly expect some updates from this trial the same
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way we've covered some of the other trials in the past,
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because it's pretty interesting to me to see what happens
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with TARTAGLIONI. These are serious charges that he's facing, and
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this man should go to prison for the rest of
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his life. And as far as what happened in that
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jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein, I'm convinced that he did
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rough up Epstein and I don't care what he says
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or his lawyer or Bill Barr unless I see video
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evidence showing me otherwise. I'm going to continue to believe
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that Nicholas star Tagleone roughed up Jeffrey Epstein in that
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jail cell. All right, folks, that's gonna do it for
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this one. All of the information that goes with the
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episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
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and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Nicholas Star Tagleoni's
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trial is now underway in Westchester, New York, and his
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lawyers wasted no time telling the jury and everybody else
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that Nicholas Star Tagleoni is nothing more than a fall guy. Now.
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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be too
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comfortable if this is what my lawyers came up with.
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You mean to tell me all you can come up
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with is saying that I'm the fall guy. How the
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hell are we going to convince the jury of that?
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And while it sounds great during opening statements, well, you're
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going to have to prove that now throughout the rest
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of the trial. And from what we know of Nicholas
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Tartaglioni and what he allegedly was up to, it's going
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to be a long road for the defense. Today's article
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is from the Times Herald Record headline Tartaglioni was the
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perfect fall guy in quadruple homicide X Cops defense says.
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This article was authored by Jonathan Bandler, X cop Nicholas
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Tartaglioni was so enraged by what he thought was the
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theft of two hundred thousand dollars by a double crossing
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partner in a cocaine trafficking operation that he strangled the
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man with a zip tie and then participated in the
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execution style slaying of the victims. To nephews and a
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friend because they were witnesses, a federal prosecutor said Thursday
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at the start of Tartaglioni's trial on murder and drug
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conspiracy charges, and for Tartaglioni, the stakes couldn't be higher.
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This is a man who is an ex police officer
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who is now accused of killing a cartel associate. So
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when he gets to prison, and I believe that's where
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he's going, if there's any justice in the world anyway,
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then he's going to have a real bad time of it.
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He's going to have to go into protective custody and
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shack up with the snitches and the chomos, because if
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he's on the main line, he's going to be a
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target who is responsible for these murders that man Nicholas Tartaglioni.
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Assistant United States Attorney Jacob Fiddleman told jurors in opening
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statements he and his enforcers executed the witnesses. The defendant
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is a murderer who is responsible for the brutal death
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of four people, but a lawyer for Tartaglioni said he
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was uninvolved in any cocaine trafficking. That the cooperating witnesses
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who will describe the twenty sixteen quadruple homicide and powerful
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motives to lie and will testify about a narrative crafted
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by federal and state law enforcement authorities, convinced Tartaglioni was
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guilty after the four victims disappeared. Yeah, they just came
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up with it out of the blue, and the bodies
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just happened to be found on Tartaglioni's property. And furthermore,
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this dude should be facing the death penalty, but Merrick
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Garland stepped in and said that he wouldn't face the
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death penalty. Was that a little bone thrown his way
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for roughing up Jeffrey Epstein. It wasn't the investigation that
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led to their conclusion. It was the conclusion that steered
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the investigation, Ada lisen Ring told the jury, adding later
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that the people responsible are the government's own witnesses if
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their deed was ever uncovered. Mister Tartaglioni was the perfect
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fall guy. You know, they love using this guy as
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a fall guy. Huh. Throw him in a jail cell
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with Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein gets roughed up, but you know,
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just miraculously, Epstein happened to try and kill himself that night,
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but there was no cameras pointing at the cell. The
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case background. In twenty fifteen, mister Tartaglioni was running an
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animal rescue operation from a one hundred and sixty acre
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rental property on Old Mountain Road in Mount Hope. He
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was living off a disability pension, car cells and the
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sale of steroids to fellow bodybuilders. And we all know
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people that are zipped up on steroids are always calculating
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and measured folks. Right, The cocaine conspiracy began, Fiddleman told
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the jury when a farm hand of Tartaglioni's, Marcos Cruz,
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introduced him to Martin Luna, who ran a construction business
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in Middletown. The plan was for Luna to take two
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hundred thousand dollars from Tartaglioni, buy cocaine in Texas, and
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have his construction partner, Jason Sullivan, store of the drugs
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in his Florida home and arrange for the drugs to
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be sold there, and then with the proceeds, the process
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would be repeated. And that's how it works. So you
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get your first package, you sell that package off right,
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you pocket a few bucks's profit, and then you reinvest
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the rest into another package. But the second time Luna
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went to Texas, he claimed that approximately two hundred and
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fifty thousand dollars was stolen. Tartaglioni had an associate and
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fellow bodybuilder Joseph Biggs try to pressure Luna to repay
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the money. When Luna broke off communication, Tartaglioni determined he
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had been double crossed. Fiddlman said, and unfortunately, in the
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drug game, this is relatively common. You go into business
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with somebody, things go south, either they get robbed or
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they steal the money, whatever, and now you're in a
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position where you have to take retribution. So if you're
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not willing to go that next step and be a violent,
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disgusting animal, then the drug game certainly not for you.
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And mister Tartaglioni obviously had that kind of violence inside
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of him and was ready to do what he had
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to do, at least in his mind. What happened to
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April eleventh, twenty sixteen, he used Sullivan to help trap Luna.
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Sullivan told Luna that there were a series of construction
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estimates to get done in Orange County on April eleventh,
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twenty and sixteen, but the last one was fake. It
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was an estimate at the Liquid Lounge, a strip mall
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bar in Chester owned by Tartaglioni's brother. But when Luna
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arrived that day. He had three others with him, his
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nephews Miguel Luna and Urbano Santiago, and family friend Hector Gutiadres,
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all three of whom Fidelman said had nothing to do
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with the cocaine conspiracy and were in the wrong place
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at the wrong time. Imagine you go roll with your
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cousin or your friend and you think you're going to
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do a job inspection, and before you know it, you're
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caught up in a cocaine conspiracy that ends up with
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you getting killed. Yeah, I'd say that's wrong place, wrong time.
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Biggs and another bodybuilder ex haverstraw cop Gerard Benderoth, were
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waiting for Luna at the bar and restrained all four
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at gunpoint. Fiddleman said. Tartaglioni then arrived and beat and
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screamed at Martin Luna in the bathroom for over an hour,
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even bringing one of the nephews in to watch. Now,
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I want you to keep in mind as we're going
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through this, that this is the man that they thought
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would be a good idea to throw into a cell
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with Jeffrey Epstein. Finally, Fiddleman said, Tartaglioni strangled Luna with
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a zip tie and drove his body to the mount
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Hole property, Fiddleman said. The other enforcers then brought the
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three other men to the property, where each was forced
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to kneel on the ground and were each shot in
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the back of the head, one by Biggs, who then
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turned the gun over to Tartaglioni. Fiddleman said. Cruz, who
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allegedly held carry the four men and filled in the
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large grave, led authorities to the site eight months later.
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The bodies were dug up on December twentieth, twenty sixteen,
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the day after Tartaglioni's arrest. First witness Kevin O'Keefe, the
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trial's first witness, New York State Police Senior investigator Kevin
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O'Keefe was a member of the crime scene unit that
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dug up the bodies. He detailed the discovery of two
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pieces of a large zip tie that was found in
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the grave, which prosecutors contend was used to kill Martin Luna.
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The jury we'll hear from Biggs, Cruz in Sullivan, but
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not Benderoff. He shot himself in his car in Havistraw
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on March eighth, twenty seventeen, as FBI agents were approaching
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to arrest him. Leisen Ring acknowledged that Tartaglioni sold steroids,
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but insisted he wasn't involved in the cocaine trafficking. Nah,
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I'm not involved in any of this. What do you
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mean only steroids served in the case, she said, only
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because the car he had sold, Cruise that Cruz gave
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Martin Luna, was pulled over in Euston for speeding and
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police found a dugout tire that is typically used to
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transport drugs. When they learned the owner of the car
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was still listed as Tartaglioni and that he was the
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subject of a New York State Police investigation into steroid cells,
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they began a cocaine trafficking investigation dubbed Operation a Taliano Buttis,
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Lisenring said, with Tartaglioni the suspected ringleader and Luna and
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Santiago the drug mules, even though no drugs had been recovered.
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She went on to say that Cruz had unfettered access
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to Tartaglioni's entired property. He regularly used the heavy machinery
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that dug the large grave and filled in the hole
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to cover the bodies and all that could have been
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done without Tartaglioni's knowledge because the burial site could not
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be seen from the house, and when Cruz at one
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point admitted to killing the four men, she said, investigators
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didn't believe him and threatened him and his family with
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deportation until he implicated Tartaglioni, Yeah, I don't buy that
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for a second, honestly. I mean, it's not past the
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police to do something like that, but it sure seems
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convenient here. Biggs motivation to lie was the strongest lizardinging
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said because he faced the prospect of the death penalty
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as one of the killers before cooperating. Tartaglioni's career history,
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Tartaglioni has a checkered career law enforcement, working first in
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Mount Vernon for just a year in nineteen ninety three
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before transferring to a job in his native Yonkers, but
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he lasted there for just thirteen weeks and took a
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job in Pauling, where he fought to form a police
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union before leaving in early nineteen ninety six and joining
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the briarcliff Manor Police department. Look, if you get kicked
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off one police department, you shouldn't get a job at
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another one. And this guy was notoriously a bad cop.
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He's somebody that grew up in the same area where
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my parents grew up and where I lived for the
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first eleven years of my life. And in fact, his
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family lives like two streets from where my uncle was
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living before he moved up to the Catskills. So Tartaglioni
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and his brother were known in the you know, neighborhood
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or whatever, and Tartaglioni has always been known as a
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shitty cop. He faced perjury charges three years later over
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at DWI arrest that he made. He was acquitted in
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the criminal case but fired on departmental charges. However, the
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village was forced to bring him back in two thousand
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and three when he sued over the dismissal. During that time,
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he faced an FBI probe related to allegations of excessive force,
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but was never charged. The village did pay out a
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one point one million dollar settlement over a local Gadflies
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federal lawsuit alleging he had been roughed up by Tartan
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on more than one occasion. Tar Taglioni worked just several
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months in two thousand and three before injuring his elbow
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when he was hit by a passing car. He never
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returned to active duty and retired on disability in two
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thousand and eight. He later won a ruling that he
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had become fit to work again but was never hired. Bro,
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you weren't hired because you're a scumbag. And you see
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how the system works. If you're part of one of
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these police unions, forget it. Even if you're a piece
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of shit, they're going to defend you to the nines.
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And that never really sat right with me. If somebody's
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a scumbag, I don't care if they're a part of
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your group, part of your union, whatever, you have to
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take action and get rid of that person, not cover
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up for them. Testimony and evidence, Fiddleman acknowledged that the
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government's key witnesses are criminals, one bigs, even a murderer,
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who had all pleaded guilty in the case and were
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testifying in hopes of a more lenient sentence, But he
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told jurors their job would be to determine not whether
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you like these men or what they have done, but
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whether they are telling the truth, and he said the
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testimony would corroborate other key evidence in the case that
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includes surveillance video from outside the bar, cell phone data
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tracing the route the key players took between the bar
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and mount hole, property and blood found on the base
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board of the bathroom floor that matched Martin Luna's DNA.
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Lizen Ring countered that the DNA would be unreliable because
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police had mishandled evidence, allowing for cross contamination, and she
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suggested that the cell phone data had been cherry pick
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to fit the government's narrative. For three years, Tartaglioni faced
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the specter of the death penalty until Attorney General Merrick
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Garland decided late last year that prosecutors would no longer
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pursue capital punishment in the case. If convicted, Tartaglioni faces
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life in prison. The trial before US District Judge Kenneth
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Carris resumes Friday and is expected to last about a month.
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So imagine Merrick Garland stepping in here and taking the
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death penalty off the table. That makes you wonder, why
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what did Tartaglioni do that gets him the benefit of
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not having to face the death penalty after murdering allegedly
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four people. I mean, I'm sure it has nothing to
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do with his time at mcc right, and I'm also
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sure that the reason he was in that cell with
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Epstein was just a mistake, a mix up, and just
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human error, because that's the narrative that they've pitched us
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from the very beginning. But I ask you once again,
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does anybody out there think that that narrative is even
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worth listening to? At this point? Considering what we know
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about Tartaglioni and how procedure works in prison or jail,
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do you really think that there's any way in hell
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that this man that we were just talking about should
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have been in a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. Ever,
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Epstein should have been in there with another sex offender,
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somebody who is working as a jailhouse snitch, whatever, but
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certainly not in there with one of these juiced out
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gorillas who's facing four murder counts. That's called a guy
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with nothing to lose, folks, So why in the hell
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would you put him in a jail cell with a
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high profile inmate like Jeffrey Epstein. You know, instead of
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getting to the very bottom of all of it, why
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don't we just start there? Can anyone in the government
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at least give us a reason why Tartaglioni, of all people,
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was in a cell with Epstein. Well three years later
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and we still don't have any of those answers, So
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I'm not holding my breath either way. We'll continue to
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cover this Tartaglioni trial and see where it all ends up,
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because this is the man right here that certainly knows
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more about what happened in that jail cell with Jeffrey
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Epstein than he's ever let on. All right, folks, that's
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gonna do it for this one. All of the information
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that goes with the episode can be found in the
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description box. What's up everyone, Welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're gonna get a Nicholas Tartaglioni trial
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update as one of his co conspirators testifies against them.
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So let's get into the article by the Lowhood and
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let's see what Jonathan Bandler has for us headlined Bodybuilder
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details strangling fatal shootings in Tartaglioni quadruple murder trial. So
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is it any shock that Tartaglioni is accused of strangling
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somebody here? Considering what happened to Jeffrey Epstein and that
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jel cell I mean, you know, just another coincidence, right,
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One man, Martin Luna, was already dead over a two
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hundred thousand dollars drug debt, his body wrapped in a
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blue tarp, his two relatives and a family friend their
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hands tied, knelt on the ground as X Cop Nicholas
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Tartaglioni told them everything would be okay. But Joseph Biggs,
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a bodybuilding enforcer who collected debts for Tartaglioni, details a
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Federal Jerry Wednesday how the man would not leave that
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mountain side clearing in Orange County alive seven years ago.
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He said, he shot one of them in the head,
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handed the black revolver to Tartaglioni, and turned away, hearing
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two more gunshots as the other men were killed as well.
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And you'll see that a lot. When somebody's gonna be
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involved in a murder, everybody there has to kill somebody
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so that they all take part, right with the thought
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being if everybody takes part in the murder, nobody's gonna snitch.
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But we know that that's not the case, especially here
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considering Big snitched on his boy tartag Leoni quick as hell,
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and when you're looking at a life sentence, yeah, it's
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time to start talking. He said he had resisted moments
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earlier when his fellow enforcer, another ex cop named Gerard Benderoth,
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told him he was going to get his hands dirty
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and demanded he take the gun. Benderov told him he
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had two choices, either you leave here with us or
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used to with them. Biggs recounted him saying, so he's saying,
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according to Biggs here that he was bullied into this
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and told that if he didn't pull the trigger that
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they'd kill him too. And while I don't know how
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much I buy of that, it's certainly possible. But if
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I was on the jury, you'd really have to convince
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me of that, Biggs as a key witness. Biggs testified
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as the main cooperating witness against Tartaglioni, who was charged
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with murder, kidnapping, and drug conspiracy in the April eleventh,
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twenty sixteen murders of Martin Luna forty one, his twenty
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five year old nephew, Miguel Luna, his niece's husband, Urbano
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Santiago thirty five and Hector Cutiadez forty three. Biggs said
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Tartaglioni strangled Martin Luna to death hours earlier at a
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Chester bar where he had been lured, and the others
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who had not been expected to show up with Luna
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were killed on the property Tartaglioni rented at the time
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in Mount Hope. The bodies were not discovered until eight
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months later. Yeah, kind of hard to find the bodies
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when they're buried in a place like that unless you
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have somebody who is going to give you the information, right,
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somebody who's going to work with you as an informant.
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But unless you have that, it's very difficult to recover
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bodies that are buried in this kind of manner, especially
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on a property like this that's so sprawling. Unless you
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have an informant, there's literally no way you're ever gonna
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find those bodies. Biggs is the only eyewitness account of
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the killings the jury will hear. Benderroth, the man he
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said helped him and Tartaglione restrain and kill the four men,
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fatally shot himself on March eighth, twenty seventeen, as FBI
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agents were approaching his car to arrest him. Benderroth had
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been a police officer and have Herstraw and New York
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City and was a strong man competitor known as the
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White Rhino. This is a big dude right here. And
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I remember when I was first looking at the Tartaglione
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reading about bender Roth and how he killed himself when
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the FBI was rolling up on him. He knew he
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was cooked. He knew that he was guilty of these crimes,
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and he knew that if the FBI was on to him,
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then the jig was up. And this was a gigantic man.
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Imagine being the EMS people that had to come and
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pull him out of his car after he killed himself.
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You need a fucking crane. Biggs, now sixty one, lived
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in Nanuitt and was a security guard at the Greenberg
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gram School in Hastings on the Hudson when he was
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arrested in the parking lot there in June twenty seventeen.
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And all of these places are in my neck of
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the woods where I grew up. I grew up in
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South Yonkers, the South Bronx before moving to Las Vegas.
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And this is literally like fifteen twenty minutes away from
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where I used to live. Bigg's background. He said he
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was a drug addict from his teenage years until his
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late twenties, when he stopped at the time his youngest
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child was born. He supported his bit with armed robberies
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and burglaries, but avoided any criminal record. He said that
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he had been sexually abused by a coach when he
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was fourteen and called himself a garbage head after that,
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taking cocaine, heroin, LSD, marijuana, anything to just not feel
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like me. Look, I have a lot of sympathy for
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people who are abused sexually, especially, but that doesn't give
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you the cover later on. If you come out here
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and you're murdering people, you still have to answer for
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what you did. Sure, it sucks that you were abused,
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and I'm sure the jury is going to take that
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into account, but that doesn't mean you're getting off scot free.
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He said he met Tartaglioni through the local gym scene
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in Rockland and began buying steroids from him on a
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regular basis around two thousand and six, usually in the
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parking lot of the McDonald's and West Nayak. A friendship developed,
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and Big said that around twenty thirteen, Tartaglioni started using
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him Benderroth as enforcers to collect debts from steroid customers.
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Their typical approach, Big said was to confront the customer
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as they left the gym, box them in between park
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cars and demand the money. If they didn't pay up,
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he said, we take him somewhere where the money was.
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Biggs acknowledged a complicated relationship with Benderoth, including consensual sex
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between the two, even after a bizarre incident in the
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married X CoP's bedroom that ended with Benderoth sexually assaulting him.
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He had gone there because Benderov asked him if he
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wanted to engage in a threesome with him and his wife.
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Once in the bedroom, though the wife was not there,
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and Benderoth came on to him, Big said he tried
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to step away, but Benderov began beating him, pinning him
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to the ground, and forcing him into sex. Yo, this
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is all brand new to me. I didn't know these
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dudes were out here raping each other in shit. Jesus,
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But again it goes to show you this Nicholas Tartaglioni,
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dude should have never been in a jail cell with
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Jeffrey Epstein. I put myself in a situation, he told
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assistant US attorney Maureen Komi. I didn't see it coming,
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despite the violence of it. Biggs acknowledged having sexual contact
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with Benderoth on other occasions and said he never told
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anyone about it until his arrest in March twenty seventeen
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because he was embarrassed. He did scale down his collections
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with Benderov, though, he said, because he was more profitable
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to get a package of steroids from Tartaglioni as compensation
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for the collections than the cash Benderoth was giving them.
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Almost always, it's going to be more profitable if somebody
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is collecting their bounty, if you will, in drugs rather
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than money. Because the drugs are plentiful right the drug
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dealers are getting them at a wholesale cost. It's almost
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like booze at a bar. The shift to cocaine, he
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said he learned in late twenty fifteen that Tartaglioni had
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taken up cocaine trafficking, investing in the purchase of cocaine
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in Texas and having it sold in Florida with the
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help of Luna. Luna's boss who lived in Florida. Jason Sullivan,
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who Bigs knew just as Jay and Marcos Cruz, a
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farm hand of Tartaglioni's. But in early twenty sixteen, Tartaglioni
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asked for his help getting more than two hundred thousand
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dollars back from Luna, who claimed that the second time
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he went to Texas to buy cocaine, the people he
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paid took off with the money and never gave him
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the drugs. He said. He met with Luna and Cruz,
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but soon Luna broke off communication. Tartaglioni then sent both
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Benderoth and Biggs to find Luna, but they couldn't. My
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guess is Luna burned them right. Luna probably took this
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money and thought he was gonna get away with it. Well,
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this is the Narco game, and people aren't just going
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to forget a two hundred thousand dollars debt. What Biggs
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testified about the killings. On April eleventh, twenty sixteen, with
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the help of Sullivan, they lurned Luna to the Liquid Lounge,
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a bar owned by Tartaglioni's brother in a Chester strip mall.
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Big said they had Benderoth meet Luna at the door
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because the two men had never met. Luna had been
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expected to come alone, but he brought along Miguel Luna,
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Santiago and Gutiadas. Once they entered, Big said, Luna recognized
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him and bolted for the emergency exit, but it had
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been blocked, and he bounced off the heavy door. Benderoth
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then ordered everyone onto the floor at gunpoint. As Benderoth
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kneeled on Luna's back, Big started duct taping the other's hands.
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He said, the three men were put in the office
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and Luna was seated on a chair in the bathroom,
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his hands bound behind his back. And remember this is
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the guy they put into a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Just keep that in mind. When Tartaglioni arrived, Big said
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he went into the bathroom to confront Luna. Big said
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he still in the office watching the others, but could
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hear the smacking sounds of Luna being beaten and Tartaglioni
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demanding his money. Big said he didn't know any of
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the others, but described Santiago as the other captive, who
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was then put into the bathroom as well. While Tartaglioni
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continued to beat up Luna. Big said he heard a gasping,
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choking sound for about thirty seconds and looked in to
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see Martin Luna lying motionless on his side, bleeding from
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his head, Santiago looking very scared. Tartaglioni went to his
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car to get a tarp, and Biggs was directed to
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wipe up a blood streak. Big said he helped Tartaglioni
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carry the body to the car because he spoke Spanish.
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Biggs was also tasked with making sure Santiago complied when
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he was directed to call a relative to say there
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was a problem and he had to go to Mexico.
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After Tartaglioni ended the call, Big said, Santiago told Tartaglioni
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he was going to get him the money. When Tartaglioni
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drove off with Luna's body, Big said he urged Benderoth
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that they should just leave, that the police could show up,
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because someone from the Chinese restaurant next door had heard
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noises and was asking what was going on. They soon
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drove the other men to Tartaglioni's property on Old Mountain
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Road in Mount Hope. Look, they had a chance right
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there to get done with all of it and call
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the cops and turn in Tartaglioni. They didn't. They continued
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on with their mission and even brought the victims to
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a new location. While Big said he did not watch
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the second and third man get shot, he suggested Tartaglioni
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and Benderoth had each shot one of them because he
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had given the gun to Tartaglioni, but Benderov was holding it.
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Immediately after two gunshots, he said he was directed to
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cut the duct tape off the men's hands, and Tartaglioni
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got a backo to start digging a hole, and the
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bodies of the three men who were shot were thrown inside,
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but they had to stop digging because a piece of
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the back ho fell off. When Benderoth told him to
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get in the hole and retrieve the broken piece and
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looked at Tartaglioni, Biggs got the impression he wanted to
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kill him, but Tartaglioni shook his head and hands indicating no.
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Big said, hell of a group of friends, Huh, guys
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sexually assaulting you? Gonna kill you? Real great group of
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dudes you decided to throw in with. Before Luna's body
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was thrown into the hole, on top of the others.
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Big said, Tartaglioni cut a zip tie from around Luna's neck.
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They shoveled dirt onto the bodies until nightfall. Tartaglioni then
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threw the dead man's wallets and other belongings into a
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furnace near the house. Big said he and Benderroth were
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sent to pick up cruise so they could use a
40:45
key fob taken from the dead men to find a
40:47
car they had arrived in and move it as far
40:49
away from the bar as possible. They didn't manage to
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find it. On their way back to Rockland County that night,
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Big said Benderroth through the spent shell case and remaining
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bullets from the black Revolver out the window on the
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New York State Thruway. He wasn't sure if he threw
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the gun out as well. Bigs guilty plea and cooperation
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Biggs is pleaded guilty to murder, kidnapping, and drug conspiracy
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charges and agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors in hopes
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of some leniency from a mandatory sentence of life in prison.
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That's the only incentive he needs, he suggested, to testify
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truthfully I'd like to hold my grandchildren. He said, well,
41:30
guess what, dude, you shouldn't have been involved in killing
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these guys. I know you have a sob story and
41:35
all of that, but guess what the buck stops with
41:38
you self responsibility get some but he acknowledged on cross
41:43
examination by defense lawyer Bruce Barkett that his truthfulness and
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cooperation are for the lawyers relying on him. The prosecutor
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said to determine the defense maintains that Tartaglione was framed
41:55
for the murders, that the drug conspiracy had involved Luna Cruz, Sullivan,
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Biggs in Benderoth and not Tartaglioni. Barket's sided the fact
42:03
that Tartaglioni never had a burner phone like Biggs and Sullivan,
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and that it was Sullivan, not Tartaglioni, who had access
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to the money and the cocaine in Florida. It's always
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somebody else, right, And whenever somebody's doing the not me
42:17
routine of defense and not bringing receipts, I automatically default
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to them lying. Barket questioned Biggs about the contacts in
42:26
his burner phone that showed j. Sullivan and Marcos Cruz
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with dollar signs next to their names, and he suggested
42:33
that it was actually Biggs who had strangled Martin Luna.
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He cited an incident for which Biggs was arrested in
42:39
twenty fifteen for squeezing a man's neck until he lost
42:42
consciousness after his daughter had claimed the man assaulted her,
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and he got Biggs to concede that five to ten
42:49
times he had acted similarly to try to get people
42:52
to pay their debts. Boy, that's ironic, Hunh. Barket's out
42:56
here accusing this dude of being a strangler. Meanwhile, we
42:59
all know that Tartaglioni strangled Jeffrey Epstein in that jail cell.
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The defense maintains details had been fed to the cooperators
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to fit their narrative of the case. Biggs conceded to
43:11
bark It that a New York State Police investigator had
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told him that he thought Tartaglioni had snapped and something
43:17
bad happened, and that Luna had been killed by Tartaglioni.
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Anri direct comy asked Biggs if a law enforcement agent
43:26
had ever told Biggs to frame Tartaglioni. They had not.
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He said, if you tell a single lie, what happens?
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She asked, I go to jail for the rest of
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my life. And that's no joke. If you're a witness
43:38
and you tell a lie on that stand, forget it.
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All deals are off and you're going to prison forever.
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So the whole entire account here by mister Biggs smacks
43:46
true to me. We know that Tartaglioni's guilty of this.
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Come on, Several people have already said so, and the
43:52
evidence is just a mile high. So I have no
43:55
doubt that Tartaglioni's gonna be found guilty here. But the
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question still rem what was he doing in that Geil
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cell with Jeffrey Epstein? And will we ever get an
44:05
answer to that question? All right, folks, that's gonna do
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it for this one. All of the information that goes
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