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- 1:41Unknown: Well, hi, everybody. Hello, and, welcome. Good evening. This is, Paul English live here on a jolly old Thursday,
- 1:48and it's still warm. Isn't it out there? Isn't it marvelous? This is episode 150.
- 1:53Can you believe such a thing? 150.
- 1:55I can't believe it.
- 1:57It's quite amazing. Let me just turn a little thing off there. Thank you very much.
- 2:01We've got an interesting show lined up tonight. Justin Walker is gonna be joining us in about ten minutes time. Eric's in tow. We're about to kick off. Welcome to the show.
- 2:12Oh, except
- 2:13no. I'm gonna do that again, actually. You know what I do? I always cock it up, don't I? Let's just do that again.
- 2:19And this time, because I can always edit this out afterwards, you know what I'm like. Right? It's because I did the thing.
- 2:25Now, episode one fifty. Welcome to the show.
- 2:54I've been running around the last few days trying to train everybody in how to do a rain dance, which is a bit of a problem because I don't know how to do one myself.
- 3:02Maybe
- 3:03maybe some of our guests will know just what the foot moves are this evening.
- 3:51Well, hi, everyone, and welcome back. Episode one fifty. Is that a special number? I have no idea. It might be. That means we've been going nearly three years. Actually, I think with a couple of,
- 4:02a couple of
- 4:04shows missing, what we have to hear? A 156,
- 4:07I suppose, calendrically, if there is such a word, and I just made it up.
- 4:11So
- 4:12just a tad shy of three years I think that's probably going to come up early September so about another month's time which is all quite cool and interesting.
- 4:19It is a little bit cooler today we always like to start talking off about the weather
- 4:24but as I was saying there just briefly
- 4:27whilst I was bungling a few things at the start,
- 4:30we
- 4:31could do with a bit of rain. I'm not normally a rain anxious sort of person and maybe anxiety is a bit too strong for it, but most of the people I bumped into up and down the beach last few days, they haven't a clue how to summon rain.
- 4:44I guess this is really just a normal summer to be quite honest. It is very reminiscent of '76,
- 4:49although it doesn't seem as hot to me,
- 4:52but I don't know what that means.
- 4:54So I'm not finding it difficult to sleep at night or anything like that. I I hope you chaps and chapesses are all getting along thunderously well.
- 5:02But welcome to the show. We're going out, of course, over Food for Thought Radio. We're also on WBN three two four for the next two hours, so shout out to everybody there.
- 5:11We're on Rumble and YouTube, and the magpie's just flown down by the studio. Hi. Good evening, mister magpie, which is quite good. So we're going out on quite a few platforms as we usually do. We have
- 5:22chat going in Rumble. We've got chat going in YouTube. I will be scanning that. And, also, because I have to big this up,
- 5:30if you are on the fftradio.com
- 5:33website, we've got a chat room there. So I'm looking at all three. And the more of you that get into using
- 5:38f f t radio,
- 5:40chat.com,
- 5:41that's not really what it is, the happier I will get. And, might as well, just to confuse you even more, I've also added a sort of live chat room to the FFT radio Telegram group.
- 5:53So you can post comments in there. That's very easy for me to scan as well.
- 5:57As some of you have heard me bang on about in the past, Telegram is a pretty nifty tool, I think. I think it's pretty nifty,
- 6:05and it could come to our aid in all sorts of ways down the line. There again, it could be a massive liability.
- 6:11Anyway, someone who's, quite aware of liabilities is Eric Von Essex. Hello, Eric. Good evening, and welcome to the show. Good evening. Good evening. I'm in the
- 6:19Unknown: Fockem's local at the moment, the whip it in.
- 6:23And
- 6:26Unknown: Oh, it's always good to start as we mean to go on. Yes. Fantastic.
- 6:30Unknown: Yes. It starts on a low tone. It go goes downwards.
- 6:34But now I do I have done a rain dance, and my case comes up next week.
- 6:39Yep.
- 6:40Unknown: I hope we've got footage of it. I have no idea what you're supposed to do. Yeah. It's tricky. It's tricky. It
- 6:47Unknown: is. But I remember I'm old enough to remember the 76
- 6:52heat wave,
- 6:53and some Indians came over and did a rain dance at Heath. If my memory serves me right, I think it was Heathrow Airport, and it did rain.
- 7:01Unknown: Seriously, it rained after they did the rain dance. Let's get them back. Well, let's get them back. They did that one in '76, did they? Yeah. They've been getting on a bit now, should think. But They will be a bit. They might be a bit long in the tooth by now. Yes. They could well be. Plenty of practice. But
- 7:18Unknown: seriously though, I remember in '76 when the
- 7:22tarmacadam was actually melting on the roads,
- 7:25and it was got these, like, sort of great
- 7:28kind of heaps of tarmacadam
- 7:30Unknown: Rivers of it. On the road. Yes. Yes. And were you putting did you get a pointed stick? I got a pointed stick. Actually, the key of I remember being younger, it was lollipop sticks. You would push into the tar wouldn't you and push all the That's it. Around and all that? Yes. Oh, it's so exciting. I might go out and do it again, actually. I haven't seen any tar melting, though. No. No. All. Maybe the tar's better. But Is it better tar? I don't know. But something I did notice,
- 7:54Unknown: which I've never experienced before,
- 7:56was I got in my car yesterday,
- 7:59and
- 8:00where you got the temperature gauge, you got, like, little
- 8:04digits, one, two, and a three.
- 8:07When I got in, now the car, I hadn't used it for over a day. So all night, it was the engine hadn't started. It was on one digit because the heat of the sun.
- 8:17So it was it was semi wall from the heat of the sun. I've never noticed that before that the temperature gauge was on one digit before it even put the ignition on. Quite amazing. Does anybody else notice that in their car?
- 8:30Unknown: Don't know. I don't have a car. I feel I feel all less than I do. I used to have a car. Those were the days when I had a car. Oh, by god. But Oh, the glory of the open road. Well, it's never been like that. I might get another one, but, you know, as I said, we want that really basic thing. Hey. I sent you that video as well about those Morris vans. They were pretty cool, weren't they? Nobody knows what they're talking about. Yeah. They were fast.
- 8:53Yeah.
- 8:54Unknown: Well, do you remember the old Morris fans that delivered the evening stand? What were they called? J types, I think, were they?
- 9:00Unknown: They may have been. Look, if you don't know what we're whispering on about because we're a couple of old farts, Mhmm. The Morris used to make these postal vans and all sorts of delivery vans and I think the original one the design was like the late thirties and it was brilliant design because it's just maximum
- 9:15carrying capacity
- 9:17almost stretched to the very edges of the chassis if you know what we're talking about right over the wheels and everything. Anyway, some enterprising people have revived
- 9:26the Morris name. They're made in England, they are electric, so they don't have a transmission as such. It's just gas and brake, a bit like an electric milk float, and I used to love those. I thought they were cute.
- 9:37So it might make a comeback. I wasn't quite so fond of that sort of pinky color. Thought that was a bit limp wristed myself. I was. But I like the I like the vivid blue. So yeah, it's pretty good. You don't know what we're talking about. I should have showed you some pictures, but I couldn't be bothered. Right? Okay. So go look it up because you're all enterprising type. Well, Pretty that's good wasn't it? Cracking little And the Morris and they're gonna bring back the Morris thousands as well. Seriously.
- 9:59Unknown: Electric
- 10:00version, Morris thousand. And I did hear somewhere the two CV.
- 10:04But with modern, obviously
- 10:07because the two CV, I think it was banned in Sweden because it didn't reach their
- 10:11road regulations and things.
- 10:13But Right. As a friend of mine used to call them dustbins on wheels because he couldn't stand them. I liked them. I thought they're brilliant.
- 10:20But
- 10:21now I think that this electric, I I still believe it's a white elephant.
- 10:26I don't believe electric cars are the future because
- 10:30they've tried it before in the past. It didn't work, and it's not gonna work again. Because the internal combustion engine is far more efficient.
- 10:37Unknown: Oh, of course it is, but then we are a couple of old farts, but it is really. I mean, I like to all the other ones. Let me just shout out a few names anyway early on in the chat while I still can before it gets absolutely crammed with the hullabaloo.
- 10:48Shout out to, m Bailey, and I can't read this one.
- 10:53No
- 10:55no stopping it. Oh, hello. No stopping. It's because you don't have two p's in. I was gonna call you nosto ping it, which of course would have been very wrong of me, wouldn't it? But hi. No no stopping it. Billy Silver and Shelley and, Mer Bailey and John Possum,
- 11:09are all hanging out in the FFT radio chat at the moment, early days.
- 11:13And, Mark Anthony and Matilda and
- 11:16Blu ray. I'm gonna read everybody. Hatchi Hatchi,
- 11:19Hatchi Hatchi, Blu ray. Again, oh, look. They're all in there. Krautwolf.
- 11:23Good grief. Message retracted.
- 11:25I should think so. We don't know what's going on there. Anyway shout out and Ricardo Blake hi welcome everybody to the show so
- 11:34there was something else I was gonna say I was very busy of course ordering I was ordering pile cream today Eric just in case you know yeah just
- 11:43in case in case it's a winter shortage better better
- 11:46better prepared you know than than sorry and all that kind of so it's not that I have an ailment in that region I just thought you know I'd like to be better safe than sorry
- 11:55Yeah just in case absolutely because you know when we get miles on with these piles our favorite in house document this
- 12:02is really you started it so I'm in the mood as well and I was also gonna say as right now I will say this as well so momentarily we're gonna bring Justin Walker on of Bradbury pound fame and we're gonna as many regular listeners know and by regular I'm not talking about your toilet habits I just mean you know you're right although we don't wish you any ill will in that department but
- 12:23we'll know that one of the strong bases of this show ever since it's died, ever since I've been droning on for Donkey's years on the Internet, is basically banks and money and currency
- 12:33and the whole hell. The whole hellish mess that it currently is and has been regrettably for several hundred years actually and probably even longer than that.
- 12:41And so it's very apt I think it's more by it's not really by planning but it's more fortuitous than anything else.
- 12:49I managed to get in touch with Justin
- 12:52the other day. We've had a couple of really fun chats and I'm hoping he's there because we're He's in the middle of
- 12:58Unknown: there Justin hello good evening. Hi Justin. Welcome to the show. Hello Justin. Let you know my hemorrhoids are in fine fetal. I am not in pain whatsoever.
- 13:08Unknown: This is good news.
- 13:10Having been warned what your show is like, I've got about three glasses of wine in me. So Oh, this is excellent. This is marvelous. How we intend to proceed. Yes. Yes. Sort of. It's a bit like that. We're having a jolly up. You've got it absolutely right. It's a bit like we we are down the Fockham Hall arms or is it the Queen's Legs Eric because they're all It's the Queen's legs and the whip it in. They're the two pubs in Fockham.
- 13:32The whip it in and yeah it's as if we've just bumped into each other in the pub but we just happen to be very interesting folks and we're all having a jolly good chat about things yeah and that's really what we're here to do and
- 13:43I know you've told your story
- 13:45many many times I'm very familiar with it Justin
- 13:49and you're probably expecting oh my god he's gonna ask me to go through my sort of CV, but I am because there'll be many people here and across in The States. This show goes out to many listeners
- 13:59in The US as well,
- 14:01who won't know who you are,
- 14:03and I think they need to know who you are and your fabulously interesting tale because it's gonna set us up for the next couple of hours. Right. Right. Yeah. Well,
- 14:12Unknown: I always tell people I'm going to be prime minister for one month because I don't want to do it for any longer than that. I want to do a list trust because I I reckon I can get everything sorted in one month.
- 14:22Just to let you know my ego is totally under control and I don't really have a desire to be a Prime Minister and I want to quote what Billy Connolly, the great comedian, says: Those who want office should be barred for life, and I think that sums it up pretty well.
- 14:37Those who aspire to politics should be banned. Anyway, that's beside the point.
- 14:43Unknown: Right. You want my well, you want a a very brief version of how I Yeah. I I mean, you remember you did a thing with Sonya Poulton a couple of years ago outside,
- 14:53and I I thought maybe I could play that, but then it's a bit naff really because you could cover. It's about six minutes long, but that that really encapsulates some brilliant stuff, and I'm very familiar with your tale.
- 15:02And I think many people here will have heard of the Bradbury pound which of course it might almost become your middle name now which is no bad thing. You reckoned me? Yes. Oh I don't know I think it's good because
- 15:13you know if it provokes questions from people at the other end this is this and and let's face it, there's not enough asked in this arena.
- 15:20But yeah, because
- 15:22you've got some interesting family connections, you've you've kind of got an inside line on the thing which is rare. Came into the whole theme because the only one that said to me, what was it 2012,
- 15:32Unknown: I was suddenly informed about the truth about the city of London and banking etc.
- 15:36If anyone had said to me before that you are going to become
- 15:40-uh- known for your wisdom on discussing banking,
- 15:44money and financial affairs,
- 15:47I would have just laughed at them, because I really I never went to university.
- 15:51I I did a two week
- 15:54two week visit to Sandhurst to do my territorial army
- 15:58commissions course, so in other words,
- 16:00and I don't think I just went into the family business, so I never really had further
- 16:07sort of academic credentials to my name and I'm told by many people that's probably a very good thing because you get programmed at universities.
- 16:16So yeah, I think I got away of it. Yes, my late uncle,
- 16:20who was a lovely man, so even though he may have been on the side of the globalist, I will always say this about him, he was an absolutely lovely man, very generous,
- 16:29great fun to be with,
- 16:32and,
- 16:33so I will never say anything against him because I loved him as an uncle, but he was part of the the hidden the hidden hand that controls things.
- 16:42Mhmm. He was sir Harry Pilkington, later Lord Pilkington,
- 16:46who,
- 16:48Pilkington's glass. So they manufacture glass all around the world. I think I believe they still do obviously.
- 16:53Unknown: Yeah, very famous company. He
- 16:55Unknown: married
- 16:56my mother's sister in 1961,
- 17:00second marriage for both of them. He was a widow and he she was a widow, so it was a second marriage,
- 17:06and,
- 17:08that's when I I was about five years old and I managed to gatecrash the official photograph for the Daily Mail, the Daily Express, the Mirror, the they were on the front, well the front page of most of the dailies at that time and I managed to barge my little head through to say hello to the world, I'm Justin
- 17:25and I actually believe a few people were called Justin as a result of that. Anyway, that's by the by.
- 17:31Yes, no, my uncle as I said was, Sir Harry Pilkington, it became Lord Pilkington eventually.
- 17:37He went to the very first Bilderberg group meeting back in 1954
- 17:41and he represented the FBI and that's not the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
- 17:47that's the Fed it was the Federation
- 17:50of British Industry
- 17:51and that morphed itself into the CBI
- 17:55and so he was representing British industry at the very first Bilderberg Group meeting,
- 18:00and then from 1955
- 18:02to 1972,
- 18:04he was a director of the Bank of England
- 18:06and, I can remember he was going back to one of his last meetings at the Bank of England as a director
- 18:13and I was going back to school to do my O levels
- 18:16and,
- 18:17he he was on the train. He he invited me to Pullman
- 18:21to go and have breakfast with him and
- 18:24he suddenly said to me, we were discussing various things, he said what are going to do when you leave school? So I briefly said I'll probably try and go in the family regiment and family business
- 18:32and he said well I'm going to give you two bits of advice.
- 18:36Never ever believe never believe anything you read in the press because we control it and never ever believe a politician when they say they say they can do something. They can't unless we say they can. And of course as a 16 year old who's completely naive,
- 18:50I I just vaguely thought to myself he's talking about the City of London bankers and, you know, vaguely, I didn't know anything about it. I just thought, oh, he obviously means that business and industry,
- 19:01are calling the shots.
- 19:03Well, anyway, move on.
- 19:07My uncle, as I said, he did actually say to my father once,
- 19:11when he was discussing overseas investments and he said that,
- 19:15he said when your your company invests millions, and of course this was said to my father in about 1970s,
- 19:22today you're probably talking billions,
- 19:24he said when your company invests billions or millions into a country,
- 19:29it's always wise to be able to make sure you're in control of that government, make sure we don't suddenly nationalize you or do something which will upset your investors.
- 19:39So that I do remember. My father totally agreed with him. So that was my sort of introduction to the globalist outlook on things.
- 19:48Now I better explain, my uncle also, I only found this out about four years ago, he he apparently used to have regular luncheons, private luncheons with the Queen at the time, the late Queen,
- 20:00to discuss the industry British industry and how things were going. So you know, he did move in quite high circles but I'm
- 20:08I'm going to say that he was in effect a useful idiot
- 20:12for the people right above. We may come on to who who we think is basically, you know, the the spider at the center of the web. But going back to how I got involved in everything,
- 20:24I I started to I I was involved in various initiatives like try and get to the truth about nineeleven, I was involved in green politics, I was in the I joined the Ecology Party as it was then in 1978.
- 20:38I was on party council,
- 20:40and I I sort of left the Green Party as it was in 1992 because of all the infighting and I I just couldn't be bothered, but I did see how the Green Party was taken over by the globalists, but that's another story.
- 20:54But I I sort of started to sniff that basically things were not right. About 1986,
- 20:59I detected that the world was being run
- 21:02not by the politicians we elect but by people who are pulling the strings.
- 21:07And so I've been at this game for what, you know, that's forty years.
- 21:13Anyway, so I started to investigate.
- 21:16I heard I heard of a lady in America,
- 21:19called Ellen Brown.
- 21:20Unknown: Yeah, she wrote the Web of the Web of something or other. That's
- 21:25Unknown: it. And and I started reading some of her stuff and I thought my god, this makes a lot of sense. And she was talking about the greenback dollar.
- 21:34So I I thought to myself, well, we can have a greenback dollar which effectively run, you know, won this in the American civil war for Lincoln, I thought why can't we have a greenback pound?
- 21:44And so my friends at The UK column,
- 21:47I I I wrote in the days when it was a newspaper,
- 21:51I wrote an article,
- 21:52simply saying why can't we have the greenback pound? It's still up there, people want to look. And it was just in a bit, it was only outline, it wasn't any detail and I didn't think many much more of it. Anyway, in September 2012,
- 22:06I got a very strange phone call.
- 22:08My daughter was doing her homework, my wife was in the kitchen, the phone goes
- 22:13And my immediate reaction was, oh lord, that means one of my wife's friends is ringing up, that means I'll have to go in the kitchen to look after the Good grief. And exactly. Bad news. Terrible. Very bad news. Very bad news. It is. Yeah. But the only good news is the wine was in the kitchen, so that was the only good news. Excellent.
- 22:31So I I sort of answered the phone and the very very posh voice said oh, I say hello,
- 22:36is that, Justin Walker?
- 22:38So I jokingly said well it might be And he said, well, let me put your mind at rest. Are you Justin Walker, the nephew of the late Lord Pilkington?
- 22:46And I said, yes, am. He said, marvelous. He said, look, I'm I'm ringing on behalf of my father. He's not long for this world, but he wants you to know a word.
- 22:57I went, oh right, and I was panicking now because my laptop was closed,
- 23:02my my there was no paper or pencil or pen or by the phone to write anything down,
- 23:08and, he said my my father was a director of the Bank of England with your
- 23:13uncle
- 23:14and,
- 23:15he's read your article about the greenback
- 23:19pound. I said oh right,
- 23:21he says he wants you to know the word 'Bradbury'.
- 23:25Now immediately I went panicked because I thought 'Bradbury'. So I breathed on the window and wrote 'Bradbury'.
- 23:32Unknown: This is 2012,
- 23:33Unknown: Justin. It's it you 2012. This is September 2012. I know it exactly. Wow. So not that long ago actually. No, not that long ago. No. As I said, because, you know, I I knew my uncle was high up in the world, but, I I didn't know anything more, you know, and I only found out about his, Bilderberg activities,
- 23:52about two years after knowing about the Bradbury pound. So anyway,
- 23:57so that was because Tony Gosling got hold of the the invite list for the very first,
- 24:02conference.
- 24:04Anyway, going back to this, so I I scribbled down on the window Bradbury
- 24:09and he said if you if you,
- 24:11research
- 24:12the word Bradbury, if you research the Bradbury,
- 24:15you will find a solution
- 24:17to all of Britain's economic woes and I shall remember that it's embedded in me, you'll find the solution to all of Britain's economic woes.
- 24:26So I thought right, so he said I'm afraid you're not going to be able to trace this call. You won't know who we are.
- 24:32It's been very nice talking to you but good luck and we hope you do your research or worst to our effect, I can't remember the exact words. Anyway, he clicked off and,
- 24:42I immediately did 1471,
- 24:44answer with you know number we've held,
- 24:46and I have to be honest with you, I felt like Richard Hanay in the 39 steps. You know that one? Good. I I'm feeling like a person watching Richard Hanney as you talk and I'm quite enjoying the experience I actually,
- 24:57was funny for what the hell was that?
- 25:01And so I couldn't wait to get the laptop open and I sort of fed it in. I put Bradbury in and the first one I got was that lady who struts around disused railway lines, very attractive lady. What's her name? I can't remember the name but something Bradbury. I don't know. Well, she's on BBC and all the rest of it. Anyway, Gloria, no, forgot it. And then I found out the guy who wrote the Martian Chronicles, another Bradbury, and I thought we're not going very far here. Who the hell are all these? And eventually I came across, a stamp shop,
- 25:30and I suddenly saw Bradbury,
- 25:32a treasury note. I went what?'
- 25:35and then I did a bit more digging and I came across a gentleman called it by the name of Thomas Johnston,
- 25:41who was a Labour Socialist MP in the 1930s,
- 25:45who was the father of the Scottish hydroelectric
- 25:48scheme and joined Churchill's got more time governed. He was put in charge of Scotland
- 25:53and he's one of his few MPs who nobody had a bad word to say about. He was a genuinely decent
- 26:00bloke
- 26:01and he wrote a book called The Financiers and the Nation, and in that book was all about the story of the Bradbury pound.
- 26:09And
- 26:10Unknown: Say that again because I want to dig that out. So Thomas Johnston,
- 26:14Unknown: with T. Johnston, MP. Yes. J o h n s t o n. John Thomas And the title of the book again was what? It is the financiers and the nation.
- 26:22And I think it's how the chapter
- 26:24nine, but it's all about basically,
- 26:27it's about the first world war and what they did to stop a collapse, the economic collapse.
- 26:32And when I read that, I just went oh my god,
- 26:37because it was all there and you can tell it was the truth because this guy is clearly somebody who wants to talk about the truth.
- 26:45And and
- 26:46I think I looked at it and the story is that,
- 26:50basically David Lloyd George, who was the,
- 26:53chancellor of the exchequer before he became prime minister halfway through the First World War, when at the outbreak of the First World War, he was the chancellor of the Exchequer.
- 27:02And the and the now they explained the notes,
- 27:05the banknotes,
- 27:07which you've got that lovely title, know, that that that strap line, I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum off. Yes. We were in the gold standard in those days so when they produced these notes, there were £5 notes and then 10 and whatever,
- 27:20and £1 in 1914
- 27:22is equivalent to about a £160
- 27:24today.
- 27:25So we're talking, you know, quite nice sizable amounts of money, but it all these notes issued by the,
- 27:32by the Bank of England
- 27:34were backed up by gold. We were on the gold standard. They were supposed to have the gold bars in the vaults to actually back these notes up.
- 27:42Yeah. Money. Actual money as opposed to currency. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. They they decided that, they would because bankers have always known since the medieval times and renaissance times that they could chip away and never no one was going to ask for all their money back so they could produce many more notes
- 27:59IOUs
- 28:00than they actually had in the vaults and they were just doing what all the bankers, the Venetian bankers, the bankers of Amsterdam, all these ones and and they're you know, doing you're basically making money by courtesy of fraud.
- 28:12Unknown: Just acting like spiffs,
- 28:14Unknown: basically. Exactly,
- 28:16Unknown: exactly. Spiffs. That's the good English word. That's what they are. They're spiffs. Yeah. So anyway,
- 28:21Unknown: yes, so suddenly they thought, oh my god, because they'd engineered the First World War and that's another whole story which we could probably have another program on it, how the First World War came about and then of course how the Second World War came about, but you can tell the fingerprints of the City Of London and the bankers are all over both world wars. Yeah. And of course, what's what's happening at the moment, but that's what we'll cover all that. Anyway, going back to the gold standard 1914,
- 28:47suddenly,
- 28:48with the outbreak of a major war which had global implications because everyone was, you know, Germany had overseas colonies and Britain had and France had and Belgium had, etcetera, so it was gonna become a global con congregation.
- 29:04So,
- 29:05yeah, so people started to get a bit worried. We thought, hang on a moment, we're clutching these bloody pieces of paper. I think we'd rather have the gold if you don't mind. I think we'd just like to go to the bank and and and take a bit of gold, have a gold sovereign or house sovereign or whatever.
- 29:19So people were queuing outside the Bank of England and the high street banks
- 29:23saying we want, you know, with money. Is now August 4 is when we came into the first world war, but they started to queue a couple of days before those people could tell that things were going to get a bit rough.
- 29:34Anyway,
- 29:35David Lloyd George,
- 29:38realized that things were not good and the governor of the Bank of England at that time, he came running around to number 11 and said, 'Hoy, we've got to do something, this is getting bad',
- 29:47so David Lloyd George, put together the Currency and Notes Act and they got that through Parliament in two days and you can read it on Hansard, can actually find it on Hansard and it is quite amazing when you read it, you can actually feel that this whole drama is coming out when you read it,
- 30:05but they disguised it very cleverly because they didn't want to give the game away. So Yep. In a nutshell, the Treasury was then going to be allowed to create debt free, interest free
- 30:17paper notes or Treasury notes that were based on the wealth
- 30:22and the labor potential, the creativity
- 30:25of the nation.
- 30:27Now this is the big one. Today's
- 30:29point in your pocket, the £2, the £1, the 50p, the 20p, the 10p and those 5p's and those worthless bits of copper now,
- 30:39they are all create, well they're created by the the, the the what do call it? The, what do we call it place? Royal Mint. Royal Mint, I couldn't think what it was. Yeah, the Royal Mint.
- 30:50Yeah. And,
- 30:51but they are created by the Treasury using something called M naught, m for money, naught. And this basically means we create money based on the wealth of the nation. And they so it's not it's not fiat money. Fiat money This is
- 31:06is practical. This is like being based on gold except you're based on the wealth of your nation, your tangible
- 31:12wealth of the nation.
- 31:14And this is something that,
- 31:16you know, that was picked up by Thomas Johnston
- 31:20and another man called Vincent Vickers, and we may come on to him later on, who was a director of the Bank of England when all this was happening and he saw how the bank was rescued and how the City Of London and the entire economy was rescued from financial collapse,
- 31:34just as when we were mobilizing for war.
- 31:37And so so suddenly
- 31:39they got so let's let we so basically August 4, we declared war on Germany.
- 31:45They got the Act through Parliament in two days,
- 31:49and then they printed on one side only of stamp paper
- 31:54the first batch of the Bradbury pound, and they were called the Bradbury pound because
- 32:00so so the what's his name? John Bradbury. The cashier, the chief cashier, JB Bradbury, I think. Yeah. Yeah, his florid signature on all the notes. Yeah. The first secretary to the treasury signed the notes and they became nicknamed the Bradbury's. I mean, they punched the the the magazine,
- 32:16you the newspaper that used to make fun of things. They they picked up on it and everyone picked up. They were just called Bradbury's
- 32:22and they were debt free, interest free money based on the wealth of the nation
- 32:28and everybody was happy. Once they had it once people had it explained to them in the banks and said, yeah, this is what you're getting, everyone was happy. This is tangible money. This is based on the wealth of the British Empire, this is all good stuff. The Empire And so everyone was happy,
- 32:43except the bankers were not happy now. Having been saved,
- 32:48a few weeks later they went running around to number 11 again saying hey hey you hang on a moment, woah yes, you've saved us and we're very grateful, but now will you go back to the old way of doing things? The government
- 33:00issues or creates and issues bonds that we buy up and we give you money, which of course is being created out of thin air as debt and we will you know etc etc etc. So,
- 33:11yeah, so basically
- 33:13the Bradbury pound was then phased out. They didn't get rid of it immediately, they still created Bradbury's throughout the first war. In fact, the last Bradbury
- 33:21or the last Treasury note was created in about 1926.
- 33:25Unknown: Really? That is quite intriguing. I didn't realize it Yeah. Had gone on that
- 33:30Unknown: essentially the the notes,
- 33:33we we still, now I've got to get my facts right here.
- 33:37When we entered the First World War, and we're talking old money, it's their version,
- 33:41I think the national debt stood at $650,000,000.
- 33:45When the war ended,
- 33:48it was 7,500
- 33:50million. So in other words, it's gone to 7,000,000,000. I mean Tenfold. It basically increased tenfold. So that war had proved very profitable for the bankers even though at the beginning
- 34:00they had to be saved
- 34:02by using
- 34:03proper money, that is proper,
- 34:06you know, money that's based on something tangible and not based on the bankers',
- 34:11fraudulent,
- 34:12you know, Yeah.
- 34:14So Yeah. That's the story of the Bradbury, how I came across it, and of course I went wow,
- 34:19and very mysteriously,
- 34:21and I I reckon that, there was a bit of a plot afoot
- 34:25to to make me fully aware so that I was going to take up the the the cudgels,
- 34:31I had a very nice gentleman called David Pitcock, another very nice gentleman called Ken Palmerton.
- 34:37Now Ken was a fascinating guy because Ken Palmerton,
- 34:41his great great whatever,
- 34:43was Lord Palmerston,
- 34:45the Victorian prime minister who was a very much an imperialist,
- 34:50and Ken's family
- 34:51were liberals and they were pulled by the,
- 34:54Unknown: the the By the dastardly reputation of Lord Palmerston.
- 34:58Unknown: Right. Knocked out the s in the name and called themselves Palmerton.
- 35:02Unknown: The cheeky buggers.
- 35:04Jersey.
- 35:05Unknown: Now he was delightful. Now David and Ken worked together as money reformers, and they really did move in. They were used to go to as they were guests of of Indonesia and Malaysian and prime ministers and stuff. They used to go around selling the concept of sovereign money sovereign debt free interest free money
- 35:24and -um- they they opened up all sorts of doors for me to talk to people
- 35:29and for well, still get one or two of them still give me these anonymous phone calls
- 35:34but I was I was regularly being given phone calls by people who were,
- 35:40shall we say,
- 35:41they obviously enjoyed being in the City Of London, they obviously benefited from the City Of London, but as they were appearing,
- 35:47Unknown: you know, they were they on their deathbeds or at least it looked as though they were going to be very soon, they wanted to clear their consciences by telling the truth. You know, it's it's funny you mentioned that because I was having a conversation with somebody either earlier today, I don't know, I've had so many phone calls today as well as the two jolly ones that we had.
- 36:05And, this is a regular repeating pattern, you know, of,
- 36:09what they do is whilst they're in there, they don't say boo to a goose because they can't. They probably get offed if they do, literally. I mean, I've no doubt about that. That's really you know, you're not gonna spill the beans on the game that that you are totally ensconced and subordinate to.
- 36:23But when they get out and they're near their ending, they start to basically say all these things. They're not they're publicized in small journals that no one reads, and they say, well, at least we told you, right, on page 32 in six point type.
- 36:37But I always remember sir Josiah Stamp was ex governor of the Bank of England. Dead bank. Yep. Yep. Yep. And he said something along the lines of, you know, as long as you allow I'm paraphrasing, but the gist of it was,
- 36:49so long as you allow banks to create money with a flick of a pen, you are basically gonna be debt slaves for the rest of your life. And he also said that he said, you know, fortunes like mine exist, and they should not exist because they're based on this. And the world would be a far happier and better place if they did not exist. But so long as you do not bring down the bank. And there was another guy as well. I can't remember who Henry Ford was the best. Henry Ford was the best because he basically said if people understood how money was used and how money was created, there'd be a revolution before tomorrow morning. Now the good news is that my wife says I'm revolting. Now I'm a pensioner at 70 and stuff. My wife does say I'm revolting, so I'm doing something right.
- 37:30Yes. It's good. You gotta keep you gotta keep the the man's end up in in these sorts of things. It's good. Well done, I think. But, no, we we we really have. I mean, when people realize
- 37:39Unknown: and they've
- 37:40all been programmed, everyone has been programmed. Do you know, I've since that phone call in 2012,
- 37:45I've actually talked to, I think in
- 37:48person, know, literally
- 37:50talking to somebody in the flesh. I think I've talked to around about 20 MPs
- 37:55and when I do get the opportunity to talk to an AMP, the first thing I say apart from saying be hello and being very friendly so they drop their guards,
- 38:02I say can you tell me anything about the Bank for International Settlements?
- 38:06And immediately I get a blank face. I've not had one of them tell me what the Bank for International Settlements
- 38:14is about. For those listening tonight, I better just explain very quickly in case you haven't heard of it. It's only about 1% of society that have heard of it and probably of that 1%, probably only 1% again who can actually tell you what it does.
- 38:28The Bank for International Settlements was set up by,
- 38:32Halmerschlacht,
- 38:34who was
- 38:35Hitler's future
- 38:37finance or banking minister,
- 38:39and
- 38:40a
- 38:40guy called Montague Norman.
- 38:43Montague,
- 38:44Unknown: yes. He
- 38:45Unknown: had a lovely moustache and beard and stuff. Oh excellent.
- 38:50But he wasn't. Yes. I mean, consumer evil, but great mustache. Something like that. Great stuff. He did look the part, know. Did. Anyway, he looked not a villain. But anyway, this chap,
- 39:00he he
- 39:02fell out with that chap Vincent Vickers who I mentioned below. Now Vincent Vickers was a director of the Bank of England
- 39:08and he was a director with Montague Norman.
- 39:12Montague Norman then became the governor of the Bank of England and in 1930,
- 39:17he teamed up with Helmer Schlacht and
- 39:20they decided to create a central bank for the central banks.
- 39:24Obviously they didn't do that independent. I mean they're not going to have letters saying who was behind really behind it, but we can safely say that the House of Rothschild
- 39:32had a lot of, input shall we say into this plan to create a I suspect that's likely to be completely I I think there's
- 39:40Unknown: a Belgian research, and I can't remember the name of the book. I've got it somewhere, but it's only in PDF. So when it's in PDF, I don't readily pick it up and familiarize myself with it. But it's about the whole history of the formation of the of the BIS, the Bank of International Settlements,
- 39:53and it's quite an eye opener. And you're absolutely right. Those two got together
- 39:58and had,
- 40:00globalist,
- 40:01pretensions. Let's put it that way. So even though he went on and,
- 40:05you know, it's always this thing about Hitler's tremendous economic miracle. I've got so many books about it, but basically,
- 40:11Hitler's economic miracle is in essence the Bradbury for Germany. Exactly. Labor bonds. Labor bonds. Absolutely.
- 40:18Yeah. It's about the actual the real wealth of the nation, which in their case, they emphasized on human labor,
- 40:23Unknown: and this is why he was able to get 6,000,000 men employed in three and a half years back on building motorways. Yeah. And that's when they built a cruise ship to let Yep. German workers go and have cruises. I mean, couldn't make it up in such a short time. And in fact, it's interesting
- 40:38if you want to look at a a something
- 40:41similar, not to Hitler himself because this chap is actually a decent bloke, but you look at Burkina Faso at the moment, what's happening in the state of Burkina Faso.
- 40:50Okay. And,
- 40:51the guy there is Ibrahim Ibrahim
- 40:54Triore,
- 40:56t r a o r e, and he is a young military officer, captain,
- 41:00my old rank,
- 41:02a captain who took control, did an armed coup against the the the basically the westerners, the French government and the people who who looked after the the the puppet government in Burkina Faso, kicked them out,
- 41:15And he has now completely
- 41:17transformed the nation because all the wealth wealth, including the gold they're mining and everything else, is being kept internally.
- 41:25They nobody can get their hands on it, and they've very sensibly gone to Putin and Xi and China, but not to be taken over by them, but say, look, we'll give you some, you know, we'll give you a proper proper exchange, you know, you come and build this factory or you come and build this for us, we will pay you in whatever real money. So in other words, it's a straightforward transaction
- 41:45Unknown: with no holds barred. In other words, it's it's it's working. So if, you know, have a look at Are we surprised though, Justin, that it would work? We're not surprised, are we? No. We're not. Because every time this model has been rolled out, it has this galvanizing transformative
- 42:01effect. And I think much of it has got to be to do with the,
- 42:06remoralization
- 42:07of the people because it's sound
- 42:10that even though many of them probably intellectually couldn't understand exactly why they feel it everything becomes of more substance they're able to negotiate more clearly they're not cavalier about their use of finance it's not speculative they don't turn their sort of nation into a big gambling den like the city of London and the stock exchange and casinos, which is really all it is.
- 42:30Unknown: You know? Yeah. It's just a big casino. I mean, when you when you look at Gaddafi in Libya, now I know he wasn't a perfect individual and, yes, he had his flaws,
- 42:37but my god, he actually made sure his people were looked after. And what was the first thing the so called rebels did when they managed to get ashore in Benghazi?
- 42:45They started the central bank. I mean, he was transparent once you knew what was going on. So Gaddafi, whilst he wasn't perfect, he certainly was a hell of a lot better
- 42:56Unknown: than what's I know. Mean, I think and what year was that? Was that 2010
- 43:00Unknown: or something? Yeah. No. It was oh god. I mean, we were on holiday in Malta because they were bringing people out. They had we had one small naval ship there that was doing things,
- 43:11must be at 2017
- 43:12something like 2016
- 43:132017
- 43:14Unknown: something like that. Yeah. And there was that gloating hell witch Hillary Clinton gloating about Oh the whole
- 43:21god. Absolutely a repellent little turd of a woman and,
- 43:26Unknown: but the another interesting aspect of when they first went in, the first place they target was the Treasury Building to destroy all the treasury bonds. Oh, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. I mean, it it it I mean, I I always say this to everybody now. I said money is the key to everything.
- 43:41If you don't control the money, you can't control the world stage and what happens on that stage. And this is why we, all of us, who are now trying to get back our sovereignty and to get back peace and and human values, you know, compassion,
- 43:56empathy, generosity, kindness, decency, and all the rest of it. The only way we're going to get that back is to have the wisdom of taking back control of money creation and money supply, because if if they can't control it, they can't do a bloody thing.
- 44:10Unknown: I know it's a massive challenge though. I mean, here we are having a conversation amongst people that know this. Eric knows all this stuff as well. You know, we know this and many of our audience here, certainly on YouTube, they're aware of these things.
- 44:23So I think numerically,
- 44:24Unknown: there's probably far more people now aware of this issue and aware of it in more detail and understanding than there's ever been. Seriously, I it must telling you I was telling you today that a mathematician friend of mine, I won't say a friend, associate, he said to me, you only got to wake up 7% of the the population to get things moving. And I reckon we've probably got around 7%
- 44:44who are now starting to question things. And by the way, going back to Vincent Vickers and exposing,
- 44:51he wrote a book book he wrote a book called Economic Tribulation.
- 44:55You can get it online, so I do recommend this. Vincent Vickers Economic
- 45:00Tribulation.
- 45:01Now there is only a little booklet. He died actually when he finished it, and his daughter was the one who who who got
- 45:07it out.
- 45:09And he got it out just after the second world war
- 45:12was declared,
- 45:13I do recommend it because again, it makes the categoric point the only way for a state to operate is to have state
- 45:21money created
- 45:22based on the wealth of the nation, the credit of the nation. Now I do want to come in there's something really important. I'm going to try and penetrate my alcoholic haze now to to really Oh, it's not that bad. The unite is but young, Justin. We can get I've it come up to the studio or my studio, which is the the drawing room here. I haven't even got a I haven't even got a glass of wine in front of me to keep me going. But anyway,
- 45:45let me let me try and explain
- 45:48this one. This is actually very important.
- 45:51If
- 45:51we restore
- 45:53the principle of the sovereign
- 45:56debt free interest free treasury money,
- 45:59the last people on earth you would give that,
- 46:04you know, you give that privilege to to create money creation and money supply for the nation, the last people on earth you would give it to would be parliament
- 46:14Unknown: and the political parties and everything I think so now. I think maybe if you look back in the past, may well have been able to find individuals in politics that still had something about them and some connection to integrity, but the space has now been so completely whittled out. That's gone. It's gone. Yeah. The bankers managed to overthrow the courts. They've overthrown politics. They hold the media,
- 46:35and this is it. It's this conditioning cycle, the great attention distraction
- 46:39Unknown: power that they have to get everybody to go up at some crap for the rest of their life whilst this really core issue is still going on. You're absolutely right. I'm afraid the calibre of the politicians we have today is you just can't trust them with being responsible for the country's money, and this is the key to it all. Now Yeah. Our our team, which, and by the way, we we we can't we have a,
- 47:03a loose team. It's a linear network of people
- 47:08who have researched for decades. Know, these aren't people who just woke up after COVID. These are people who have been at this game for some considerable time,
- 47:16and we have a loose network
- 47:19called The Great Rising and you can go there. It's called thegreatrising.org.
- 47:24It's thegreat-rising.org.
- 47:29And we're just starting to launch. It's gonna take a few months yet to get traction,
- 47:33but we're launching a strategy called humanity first,
- 47:37and it's a four year strategy taking us up to 2030.
- 47:41And the idea is to completely kibosh the net zero and all the other things the other side have got planned. I'll be getting involved Vincent.
- 47:48Unknown: Yeah. I'm not Vincent because I just wrote it down, sorry. I'll be getting involved Justin, see my mind's going scrambly. Yeah. Absolutely getting involved. The key to it all is when you go on, don't think you're going to join something or sign up to something.
- 48:02Unknown: We are there to put signposts
- 48:04there and to tell you the best ways to collapse this house of cards.
- 48:07Now we we don't want any money. We've got £25
- 48:12in the kitty at the moment.
- 48:13We're we're Oh, loaded. Employ people. We don't do in other words, we're not there for the money. We are there to give you information that you need to know and we're there to offer you ideas as to the best way we can really get things moving. And the best way is to
- 48:29basically overthrow
- 48:31local councils
- 48:33by working,
- 48:34by winning them over hearts and minds because most politicians caught up at local level have no idea of what's going on. And if they did, they'd be horrified
- 48:43and they'll start to break ranks.
- 48:45So this is we've a
- 48:48one group
- 48:50called
- 48:51Council Watch and they go into council chambers and they started in Bedford and Colchester and stuff. They're doing a great job and they're building up a network and we encourage people to set up their own sort of,
- 49:04that is like a group of friends who say, right, we'll see what the council is doing, this is what the council should be doing, and we're going to give them the evidence that man made global warming is a complete scam. By the way, that that's something that your your listeners might be interested in. My uncle, bless him,
- 49:21got me to meet a guy called Aurelio Pece,
- 49:24who was the co founder of the Club of Rome.
- 49:28Unknown: Really? Club of Rome were the ones who came up with man made global warming. Yeah. They did that in the early sixties, didn't they? They were looking to create an adversary for the whole world so we can unify all the people and then pick That's their
- 49:40Unknown: right. Yeah. And it was to be a sort of militarized sort of well, it was basically to get people to
- 49:45to to work for the saving to save the planet and all the rest of it,
- 49:50but of course it was going to be based on lies and deception
- 49:53Unknown: rather than Well you
- 49:54know at least that phraseology is right, it's just that people misunderstand it. The planet does need saving but it's from those people. Oh yes. It's from the these these are these are the very we agree with you the planet needs saving the best thing to do is for you to all leave,
- 50:10go somewhere else,
- 50:12get onto an island and plan away and plot away like Billio, but you're not coming out here and influencing anybody. Yeah. Of course, it's it's I love speaking like this because there's not a cat in hell's chance of that happening. When you look at the actual I think things are happening. I you know, seriously, I I I'm I'm of the I mean, you know what they always say?
- 50:30Unknown: If you're in the middle of the Pacific and you've got sharks going around your little boat and you've got about 10 survivors and you're thinking, my god. The first one you chuck overboard for the sharks is the pessimist
- 50:42followed very quickly by the optimist. And I'm afraid I am an optimist.
- 50:48Unknown: I like that. I hope I never find myself in that situation. The idea is have a different scenario play out before you. That's far too much stuff. I think that's just
- 50:56that's just dreadful. Yeah. I don't look. I'm not trying to be negative about it. What what I what I was sort of meaning, Justin, is that
- 51:02it's to do with the sort of what would we call it? The psychological profile of these people and the entrenchment of it. I don't I therefore, I'm not saying it can't be overthrown.
- 51:12I have a conviction,
- 51:14possibly not too much evidence to suggest that, but there have been incidents in the past such as the Bradbury that have shown the way. The main or a main aspect I think of the challenge is the communications challenge.
- 51:27Not just because we're sitting here in a conversation where a great deal of truth is being expressed and people are going, yeah, many people go, yeah, already knew that. But you know, we can't remind ourselves often enough in my view of these things to keep them fresh in their head and to reinvent them and to retell them like tales around the fire. You gotta keep doing this because it lives in the story.
- 51:47So these examples you mentioned, Lincoln, bingo, that worked. So he got killed. You mentioned the Bradbury pound, so that got killed. You mentioned what they did in Germany, so they had to wipe Germany out because of the threat. Although, I think they're sort of playing so many different angles. Is I I could never work out why they would allow Germany
- 52:06if that was the case. Maybe they couldn't actually allow it or not to rise up economically so strong in the thirties and effectively embarrass everybody else in the world. It go, oh, yeah. This is what you do. You kick the bankers out. You you ground it on your own people and and you're in charge and now we can do what the the nation wants to do, which of course is anathema to the instincts of the bankers. One other thing I just want to throw in here while I'm just talking about this stuff. You've mentioned Vincent Vickers
- 52:34and,
- 52:35we've mentioned Sir Josiah Stamp.
- 52:37All these guys were right and Henry Ford.
- 52:40We're talking about World War one through to the early thirties. There's some amazing stuff written then that's not really well known. Thinking on this stuff was really strong. There's a guy over here,
- 52:50the guy that helped Rutherford split the atom called sir Frederick Soddy.
- 52:55It's an unfortunate surname. I'll grant you that, but, he was not sure of brains. Right? And I think after he'd split atoms or something with Rutherford, he was sitting around a bit bored. He thought, oh, I'll figure out money and economics.
- 53:07So he goes off and he writes this book, which I've got, and it's pretty difficult to read. Right? It's written in very strong sort of academic language. But the fact is he nailed it as well. He looks at the thing and he goes, hey, under this banking system, nothing can work. Yeah. Abs that's the gist of it. Right? You've got him doing that. You also have major c h Douglas who fathered the social credit movement.
- 53:28Not to be confused with with socialism,
- 53:31it's got nothing to do with that, or the Chinese social credit. They appropriate these titles and they're basically they use them as a coverall to confuse you whilst they're really talking about totalitarianism
- 53:40all the time.
- 53:42But Douglas was just and you look at the quality of the thinking from these people and you go, well, if we can find a group of people that can think clearly like men and engineers and work it out and get them in power, of course, then we're gonna have to defend them because the lunatics are gonna do what they usually do is you try and bump them off. We it's quite a conundrum in many ways. Well, I
- 54:01Unknown: I I was told,
- 54:02I mean, when we all think of what's happened to poor Anne with with with Widdicombe. I mean Yes. Anne Widdicombe. Yeah. Absolutely. Some of our people knew her, and I've actually learned since her murder
- 54:13Unknown: what a wonderfully kind woman she was. I hadn't realized that, so I I think that was I thought she was fantastic. She reminded me of those wonderful old school teachers in England that
- 54:23would bark at the girls and easily then, oh, Anne, would you mind running the British Empire? Yes. Sure. I'll get on with that. And they just get on with it and make it work. Mean, people She's got the barber. She was wonderful. She had the Margaret Rutherford touch and She did. Anyway. Yes. She did. But I was warned by my friend in the vertic commenter. He was a good chat. Ken Palmerton, that he said you if you do take this up Justin, you do realize that you might be bumped off.
- 54:47Unknown: So he said this in a very jocular way,
- 54:50and I I did sort of chuckle at the time. I still don't take it seriously because I don't I don't give that sort of I don't allow that reality.
- 54:57But can I just go back to the climate club? You can. Because I realized I I I got you know, I I tend to deviate off the main line, go into a branch line. Like deviations around here, Justin. It works. We're we're having a chat. We don't know quite where it's gonna go, and that's what makes it more fun. It's good. But, anyway, going back to, yes, my my my uncle introducing me to Aurelio Pechin. I remember going down to Olympia in 1982,
- 55:21joined the Falklands War, and I know it was during the Falklands War because
- 55:25we had to tell even I was in the territorial army, we had to let people know where we were because we might have been called up to go and replace a regular unit in Germany
- 55:34to who would then then go down to the Falklands, but of course, was all over by then. So I remember it very clearly
- 55:40and,
- 55:42and, so I went down to meet Aurelio Pece and,
- 55:46at the same time he had his friend with him called Thor Hayodala of the Contiki expedition.
- 55:51And so
- 55:52I had the three of us having lunch at the Olympiad. It was at the United Nations Environment Programme Conference
- 55:59and
- 56:00I was quite he was really quizzing me about the fact I was in the ecology party.
- 56:06I was actually the party election agent, unpaid, totally voluntary,
- 56:10and we were, you know, and he was wanting to know what we were doing etc. And he said look, want you to come to Rome. I'd like you to come and work for me as a political
- 56:19researcher
- 56:20and to be part of our team. I was a bit wowed because I mean I worked for my father, I had a I was in the territorial army which I enjoyed and and and you know, I had a girlfriend and I thought oh god, moving to Rome, but I wasn't sure. So I didn't say yay or nay at that time. I said can I think about it? He said yes, but Justin, you'll be joining us at a very exciting time.
- 56:40We are creating
- 56:42a huge environmental problem that's going to frighten people into wanting a world government run by us.
- 56:48Yippee, you said. Yeah. Well, at the time I did because I just fought nice people. He was Aurelio Peche, he was a lovely man, he's approached me, Saul Hybetar, you know, nice man. My uncle, nice man. I thought these are nice people starting to take over and it was only because I then met David Ike in about 1988
- 57:08I think it was, before he was, normal in inverted commas and then when he went unnormal or whatever you want to call it. His pre unnormal days, okay. Yes, his turquoise period or whatever you want to call
- 57:21I read this stuff and I thought well
- 57:23I'm not really disagreeing with very much here,
- 57:26and that's when I started to realize that the Builder Bay, all these people,
- 57:30there was a level
- 57:32of governance
- 57:33that's invisible
- 57:35that, and of course Liz Truss has said this. I mean, this is what's so funny now is that Liz Truss has said that basically
- 57:41Westminster and Whitehall were being guided by some unknown strings, know, that she believed was the city of London. So she's noticed it and she was the prime minister.
- 57:51Unknown: So And no one bigs that up enough, know, I I think just I bigged it up a lot here on the show whenever I can, and I used to have a few clips which I'm still in the retrieval mode of because I had a bit of a hard crash drive a couple of months ago and these things just taking forever for me to get back, but,
- 58:07I've mentioned and I'll say it again like at the Brighton conference, remember that,
- 58:12that she's
- 58:14the she's the only person in my lifetime at the highest level of supposed power, we know that it isn't, but certainly in the public communication space
- 58:23who's actually said anything approximating the truth. She's very classy. I know.
- 58:27And she was willing to say obviously once they'd booted her out,
- 58:31and and these communications
- 58:32need to be writ large. She's absolutely how on the can she possibly or the prime minister
- 58:38do a job that is advertised
- 58:41when someone else is in control. Therefore voting for these people is irrelevant.
- 58:46It's not relevant at all. Now
- 58:48Unknown: you've opened up the next thing I really wanted to make people aware of
- 58:54is how I am starting to realize,
- 58:57and this is this is ongoing
- 58:58research for a few of us who are doing this stuff,
- 59:01and I want to pay particular attention to pay homage if you like to a gentleman by the name of William Keat. William Keat. Well Oh yeah, I know about William. Yep. Yep yep, and his work on natural law, common law and stuff, and he and his friends have been researching 1688
- 59:18and the Glorious Revolution.
- 59:20Unknown: So hold that thought hold that thought because we'll come around to the English constitution and the bill of rights and common law and all these things because they're in breach of that. It's the top of the hour so we're about an hour in here at Paul English live here on WBN and FFT and all that kind of stuff. We'll go to a song right now,
- 59:38Justin, and I've played this quite a few times, but it's it's aposeit or is it appropriate? Whatever. It's one of those where it's apt for tonight. This is a Van Morrison song. Interesting things about Van Morrison. He's very cool with people playing his stuff. This is called Western Man,
- 59:53and it's very apt really for what's going on with us right now, and it's jolly good. We'll be back on the other side of this in about three or four minutes. See you then. Western
- 1:00:03Unknown: man
- 1:00:04has no plan
- 1:00:06since he became
- 1:00:08complacent.
- 1:00:10Stop believing in himself.
- 1:00:13Let others steal his rewards while he was dreaming.
- 1:00:17While he was dreaming,
- 1:00:19others were scheming,
- 1:00:20doing deals
- 1:00:22behind his back.
- 1:00:24Now this young man is adrift
- 1:00:26and under
- 1:00:28attack.
- 1:00:29What happened in between?
- 1:00:32Now there's no other bite of the cherry
- 1:00:35unless he's prepared to fight.
- 1:00:38Start on, and you've got the freedom.
- 1:00:41You've
- 1:00:42the freedom.
- 1:00:46The horse has bolted
- 1:00:48from the stables.
- 1:00:50The lunatics have taken
- 1:00:52over the farm.
- 1:00:54Your tickets have taken over the main house.
- 1:00:58Palestine meetings in the forest.
- 1:01:55The
- 1:01:57freedom.
- 1:02:00Marcias pulled it from the stables.
- 1:02:03The lunatics have taken
- 1:02:05over the farm.
- 1:02:07Caretakers have taken
- 1:02:09over the main building.
- 1:02:13The governors have gone
- 1:02:15over the wall.
- 1:02:18Manistine meetings in the forest,
- 1:02:21not going back,
- 1:02:23not going back to the way it was.
- 1:02:28Western
- 1:02:29man
- 1:02:30has no plan
- 1:02:32since he became
- 1:02:34complacent,
- 1:02:35stopped believing in himself,
- 1:02:38and let others
- 1:02:55dreaming
- 1:02:58dreaming
- 1:03:01while he was was dreaming. Dreaming
- 1:03:04Others were scheming,
- 1:03:07scheming while he was dreaming.
- 1:03:12Others were scheming
- 1:03:14while
- 1:03:15he was dreaming.
- 1:03:19Others were scheming
- 1:03:22while
- 1:03:23he was dreaming.
- 1:03:27Unknown: Western Man by Van Morrison.
- 1:03:29And we're here three Western men and probably a few Western women as well out there listening. This is Paul English live 01:50. We're here with Justin Walker.
- 1:03:38We're into hour two. We're talking about all the really important stuff like money, banking, voting, and all that kind of stuff. Oh, and the environment and all that kind of stuff. So welcome back to part two. Eric, let me just bring you in. Any thoughts so far?
- 1:03:52Unknown: Yes.
- 1:03:53It's very interesting what you're saying, Justin. But you mentioned that
- 1:03:57the
- 1:03:59in Germany in the thirties, late thirties,
- 1:04:02the
- 1:04:04old reworking man could go on these cruises, and that's a 100% true.
- 1:04:09And what people don't realize is that those cruise ships were banned for docking anywhere in Britain in case people saw
- 1:04:16Unknown: how well the working people were doing. No. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. That's you learn something every day. This is the this is what's so important about our movement
- 1:04:26Unknown: you know, I learn something every day it's incredible I didn't know that. Yeah they actually banned it so yeah because all the English we were all going down to the end of the garden to go to the toilet weren't we still? Yes And they they were gonna rock up in all these brand new suits and things that they've made with piles of cash in their pockets and buy up London or something,
- 1:04:48and obviously add to the legend the legend perceived by the English of the arrogant Germans or whatever it was. Yes. I can't remember. Was at the home office. Whoever it was, they said, you're not docking here. We're not having everybody see this. All this splendor that you've said. Eric, I have to ask you. Did your family buy up Essex then?
- 1:05:05No.
- 1:05:07Not yet, Eric. Not yet. No. No.
- 1:05:10Unknown: But
- 1:05:11the other thing I was gonna say is that the Fabian Society
- 1:05:15Oh, yes. Was formed in 1884.
- 1:05:18Yeah. And it is believed
- 1:05:20that the
- 1:05:22book 1980
- 1:05:24bar four
- 1:05:26was
- 1:05:27the year
- 1:05:281948
- 1:05:29flipped around.
- 1:05:31That may not be so.
- 1:05:33I Because 1984
- 1:05:35is a 100 was the hundredth anniversary, the founding
- 1:05:40of
- 1:05:40the Fabian Society in 1884.
- 1:05:43Yeah. It was maybe mister Blair
- 1:05:46was it Eric Blair, I think his name was. Was it? Yeah. Yeah. All that. Was giving a little clue
- 1:05:52Unknown: to the Fabian Society because let let me just fill you in about the Fabians and my experience. I mean, the the the the lady chancellor we've just lost, you know, Rachel in accounts,
- 1:06:03I've sent Oh, we miss us so much, don't we? But do, but we don't worry. We've got the evil he looks at who's taken over. What's his name? John? What's he called? John, Healy or something.
- 1:06:15He looks like an extra out of, Lord of the Rings. I mean you've only got to look at that pointed nose to think there's something not right there. He does look as though he's yeah, anyway, but
- 1:06:27get back to dear Rachel who, was a Fabian,
- 1:06:31and by the way, the current governor of the Bank of England is also a Fabian,
- 1:06:36and of course, the departed prime minister
- 1:06:38was also a Fabian.
- 1:06:40Unknown: Now The new one is as well. Pardon? And the new one is as well. He's
- 1:06:45Unknown: not a signed up member, but has contributed quite a lot to the Fabian Society. He hasn't paid his dues, Justin. He's a tight one, northerner.
- 1:06:53He won't cough up his membership fees. I'm not bloody paying for that bloody tight world. That's what it is. Yeah. Andy bloody burn. Anyway
- 1:07:01Deep bloody burn. We call him I call him Andy bumhole. I think it's spelled burn, but it's pronounced bumhole for now. But there'll be more along the way. He's only been in a couple of weeks, hasn't he? We're already confusing him. Honeymoon period is actually it's gonna be over very quickly but I It lasted about a minute. I I mean I just look at him and I I and I see a puppet in Thunderbirds
- 1:07:21Unknown: or or one of these you know Gary Annes. I mean he just He's Troy Tempest from Stingray doesn't he? Yeah.
- 1:07:28I mean I mean for god's sake, the people with AI when they're using AI for the right reasons will have a bloody field day because he doesn't look. He looks he's got strings attached to him, which we know he has got strings attached to him. But I mean you know we can have real fun with that.
- 1:07:44But yes, try Tempest. Yeah, I used to love all those Gary Anderson, all those things. Oh yeah. Well actually, I actually spent nine years of my life trying to create. I was working with some academics at Durham University and elsewhere and we were trying when the when the
- 1:08:00Russian when when the when USSR
- 1:08:02collapsed
- 1:08:03and Russia Federation
- 1:08:05emerged
- 1:08:06and
- 1:08:07we knew we knew there was gonna be a lot of surplus military equipment going to be going rusty,
- 1:08:12and we were trying to set up a real life international rescue
- 1:08:15because we were arguing that what was needed in the world was like international fire brigade ambulance service that when you have earthquakes and god knows what's happening to countries and the and the and the country affected is is overwhelmed,
- 1:08:28surely the international community should be able to come in within twenty four hours with all the help needed, search and rescue dogs, everything you can think of to to get people out of the trapped buildings or whatever the disaster was, and we've had some real support and,
- 1:08:42and we thought we were making headway in the in the Middle East, Arabs were going to support it, this that and the other, but the whole thing had the we were pulled right at the very top of the UN, and that's how I realized at the very top of the UN,
- 1:08:55it's rotten to the core. They do not want to be seen to be working for the good of humanity, They just want to appear to be working for the good of humanity, and this is our trouble. The Fabians effectively are all over the bloody place and those, and by the way, just to give you a warning order, new UN Secretary General is likely to be a lady from Chile. I can't remember her name now, but she is a absolute feminist stroke whatever. Well when I say feminist, I'm talking about someone who is woke, totally 100% woke,
- 1:09:25and in other words fits in perfectly with what the globalists want. So the What could possibly go wrong, Justin? Exactly. I mean,
- 1:09:32Unknown: might have lovely feminine sensitivities about the welfare of the people before she inadvertently slaughters most of them or whatever she's gonna do. Yeah. There's nothing they're incorrigible.
- 1:09:41Unknown: The UN is I mean, I've always maintained the United Nations
- 1:09:46should be there as to basically enforce common law, natural law,
- 1:09:51and it should be a meeting of humanity,
- 1:09:55and not meeting of politicians,
- 1:09:57economists, and everyone else. It should it should be a moral high ground. The UN should be the moral high ground,
- 1:10:03Unknown: and of course it's anything but. So I think it should be just burnt to the ground. I'll tell you, mean, I think the words, the juxtaposition of the two words, they contradict one another. It's a contradiction.
- 1:10:14Nations by their very definition are distinct separate things from other nations. This is how we know that they exist. The idea of uniting them is deranged. It's only it's it's the plot of the peacemakers.
- 1:10:27This is how they come to you. Right? We're going to unify all this stuff. We didn't invite you to unify us. We're quite happy with our relations as it is. Then they will say, just like they've been organizing all those wars in over the last three or four hundred years. Yeah, but you European countries were all killing one another. Yeah, why? Because the bankers were behind all of them the same agencies
- 1:10:46that have created a causative reason for the United Nations. Did it? By getting us to kill each other because people don't understand how banking works. And you know the you know the the UN Building in New York,
- 1:11:00Unknown: which the Rockefellows were responsible for, is built on the site of an abattoir.
- 1:11:05How appropriate?
- 1:11:07Unknown: Well it might be it might be good if it was, reinvoked for that original purpose really with most of the parties. I mean it's just they they repel me. There's something about the qualities and characteristics of their so called personalities that is literally repellent.
- 1:11:21Their oil they are literally the greatest hypocrites that ever walked the earth. I mean, they just Maybe maybe we should touch on something which I'm working on at the moment.
- 1:11:31Unknown: Yeah. And that is the cult of the Sabotean Frankists. Have you come across that? Oh, yes. Yes. They were all around London during the English civil war. They they faced I
- 1:11:43mean, they was they really got off the ground in 1680 this, when was it? '16,
- 1:11:48let's say 1666,
- 1:11:49they really got off the ground, all that's the Sabbatine CV, but the the Jacob Frank, he was the one who got the Illuminati,
- 1:11:56the Freemasonry and everyone became a network, and of course it's a cult that believes the more evil you can do, the quicker you find God. I mean, these guys are Do you know the background to that, Justin? Why where that belief comes from? It's it's quite interesting. It's to do with the convoluted
- 1:12:14Unknown: totally, I think, intentional misunderstanding of scripture.
- 1:12:18So it goes something like this is a sort of perverted logic. It's just to get it's not logic at all. It's just a sort of causative reason or a story that they've been telling. They go
- 1:12:27the the the rabbis, these deranged rabbis, I'm not saying they're all deranged, but there's certainly several that are of which Sabotai Zvi was one. Yeah. They said, oh look,
- 1:12:37we're not in charge of the world and we should be. It says here, of course they are not the peep they are not those people. This is the first lie that they've told right. They are not these chosen people from scriptures. This is why it's so important but that's another story. However they said well it's all gone wrong look we're not in charge of things. God's made a mistake.
- 1:12:56He's obviously got it wrong. Mean because they do they say they got all these things written down like a rabbi had a discussion with God and one had a knife. I mean you go hello what's going on in what is the remnant of your head? Mean it's just sort of nuts right? But that's their mentality or would appear to be allegedly.
- 1:13:13Right? I've got to throw that word in every now and again. So they're sitting around, they go, hey, it's all gone wrong. What we've got to do is we've got to get God to come down back to the earth and smash it to bits. Right? And put us back on top as he because something's slightly gone wrong. He sort of take his eye off the ball or something. So we've got to help him. What's the best way to get his attention? Oh, I know. What we'll do is we'll break every scriptural commandment of decency
- 1:13:38and we'll behave in the most appalling way, which will so enrage God. So this is their logic. I know. He will come back down again, smash it all to bits, and put us on top. And you're going, there's no hope for you, mate, but unfortunately, there's no hope for the rest of us with a bunch of lunatics like that in charge. These people are not saying This this is this is
- 1:13:56Unknown: absolutely true. What you've said, it sums it up perfectly, and yet how many people, like the Bank for International Settlements, how many people know about the Sabotean Francus?
- 1:14:06Unknown: Well, everybody here does now, don't you? Exactly.
- 1:14:10Unknown: But then you've got other ones like common purpose.
- 1:14:13Is this all linked in like a like a jigsaw puzzle? You know, you've got and
- 1:14:19they're really nasty people. Now
- 1:14:22Unknown: what some people might think I'm bit doolally, what I'm about to say, but I think there's something demonic in what No. No. No. Listen. You don't have to feel as though you're losing your marbles. It is demonic. It is satanic. The whole let's let's say, I mean we are up against, I mean it is a a war now between good and evil. I mean there's no ifs, no buts And about
- 1:14:43you can't yeah, you can't win a war without a strategy and that's why it's now so important that we've all got to realize we're human beings first. I mean to me, the first thing I want to get rid of is the political spectrum because they've created that to keep us all divided and fighting amongst ourselves.
- 1:14:59Left right,
- 1:15:01it's it's it's bollocks.
- 1:15:03Unknown: It is. So I'm glad I've used that word. Say that word with gusto as you just did. Don't worry about that, Justin. Let it out. Exactly. Justin, it yep. Go on. Your what's your feeling? I mean, I've I've actually gotta put the cat amongst the pigeons now. No. No. Go on. And and Pete also said, you're bonkers, saying it. I really do believe that Ronald Reagan
- 1:15:23and Margaret Thatcher
- 1:15:25were closet phobians.
- 1:15:27Because what they did
- 1:15:29was they set they destroyed
- 1:15:32British industry, Margaret Thatcher destroyed British industry like you've never seen before, and set up a perfect foundation
- 1:15:38Unknown: for what the Fabian society wants. No. I I I think you're yeah. You you you don't be ashamed of feeling that because I think there's there's a lot we've still got to learn. Mean,
- 1:15:48used to and one of the things I enjoy in history more than anything else is military deception, military intelligence. During the First World War and the Second World War,
- 1:15:58you evaluate things and what have you, and I was lucky enough because the
- 1:16:02the Colonel,
- 1:16:03the Honorary Colonel in my regiment, the Duke of Lancaster's own Yeomanry,
- 1:16:08the Honorary Colonel,
- 1:16:09was actually
- 1:16:11involved in setting up the twenty committee
- 1:16:15before d day. Now the twenty committee, what are the Roman numerals for 20?
- 1:16:20Unknown: X X X
- 1:16:22Unknown: X X X. Double cross.
- 1:16:24Unknown: And they set up a twenty committee to double cross the Germans
- 1:16:28to change turn their agents against them and do various things like I was Monty's double and all sorts of wonderful wacky things to make the Germans think we were coming somewhere else and not Normandy.
- 1:16:39And, my honorary colonel, bless him, he was involved and he he used to tell me all about it and what have you and I've been fascinated by that side of history,
- 1:16:48how you deceive people. And of course, you know, the bottom line is we've been the victims of massive deception,
- 1:16:54massive deception.
- 1:16:55Well, it's about time we turn the bloody tables on these buggers because they've set up a house of cards and we can pull it down.
- 1:17:02And I believe that we we are going to do just that.
- 1:17:05But, yeah. No. It's absolutely fascinating looking at
- 1:17:09essentially,
- 1:17:10you've got to win a war and you've got to win the war with a proper strategy and you've got to cover your strategy. What was it Churchill once said? And I'm not that keen on Churchill now after what I really know about him. But what was he said that, lies?
- 1:17:23Was it the truth is always escorted by a bodyguard of lies, you know? Yes. You've got to cover things up. So as far as I'm concerned, when we're We're not fans around here, Justin, so you're in good That's
- 1:17:36Unknown: that's an understatement,
- 1:17:38Right? We're really not. Sefton
- 1:17:40Unknown: Delmar
- 1:17:41said he was the top cheese in black propaganda,
- 1:17:46and I can't repeat it verbatim, but it's I know this is probably wrong, but it's
- 1:17:50it I haven't got it in front of me, but it was like
- 1:17:53was it propaganda? It like a neatly laid English lawn,
- 1:17:57and this was after the war, and we must stop the weeds of truth coming through. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it isn't you know, you'll find it in different but it was sort of like that. You know, I've just this is off my memory.
- 1:18:07But,
- 1:18:09really,
- 1:18:10my view now,
- 1:18:12and I know there was politicians in the past that were
- 1:18:16possibly genuine,
- 1:18:18but the more sincere a politician looks nowadays,
- 1:18:21Unknown: the more insincere they are. Yeah. Well, that's why I mentioned Thomas Johnston because he's genuinely a truthful decent politician.
- 1:18:30You know, they they have been. I mean, the one today who I probably give some time to is,
- 1:18:36oh gosh, David Davis,
- 1:18:39because he's helping that poor nurse, Lepbe, what's her name?
- 1:18:44Yeah, who's falsely there's so many question marks around that nonsense. Yeah, absolutely. There are still the odd MP who I do believe is genuinely
- 1:18:54useful
- 1:18:55to us,
- 1:18:56but the overwhelming majority, as far as I'm concerned, can be got rid of. We've got to go back. One of the things we're looking at within our linear
- 1:19:05network
- 1:19:06is getting back to, if you like, improving on the Saxon model,
- 1:19:10the Anglo Saxon model. We want to have moots where people can come together to discuss things and to what you know, and we can perhaps use, you know, modern day technology like they use in Switzerland. Maybe maybe that's that's a possibility.
- 1:19:24All the pub. All
- 1:19:26Unknown: the pub would be. Exactly.
- 1:19:28Unknown: The pub. Do we need government, though? Do we need it? Because
- 1:19:31Unknown: That's a very good question. This is the thing. I don't believe we do. No. I really don't. Think you're right. I think it needs to be totally minimal.
- 1:19:39And, Wittans, and this is what we like, the model we're looking at, a Wittan in Saxon times was effectively
- 1:19:47considered wise people to advise the king. Now obviously a Wittan today would have to have some democryou can't just appoint people and people can't have a say, but we know there are people who want to serve, who are modest and they they have humility. They have all the human values that we we we feel, you know, and we've got to start to find a way of having a treasury wit on who would be responsible for money creation and money supply to make sure the country has all the where we've all needed to lead a happy and prosperous life. So we I mean, what we're trying to achieve are happy and prosperous families in strong and vibrant communities.
- 1:20:29Yes. Okay?
- 1:20:30And
- 1:20:32of course the thing we haven't mentioned tonight,
- 1:20:35and I was going to bring it up at the end, but the thing we haven't mentioned tonight
- 1:20:39are children.
- 1:20:41And what is happening to children, whether it's a ritual abuse of children, satanic abuse, and god knows, and of course the grooming gangs, we mustn't forget that's a reality.
- 1:20:50When you look at everything, the abuse of children, but the worst is to see how there is a third world and how you've got so many millions of children going to bed hungry at night and they don't have a proper education. They end up going through rubbish tips.
- 1:21:06I've I've witnessed it myself in my travels. I mean, you see how children
- 1:21:12are treated,
- 1:21:14that is the biggest scar on humanity.
- 1:21:16And that if anything, we do everything for improving
- 1:21:19the lot of children everywhere.
- 1:21:22And that to me is what drives me.
- 1:21:24And
- 1:21:25yeah,
- 1:21:26so I get a bit emotional about that at times because you know I've witnessed the poverty. I've had beggars coming up to me in the streets trying to and nobody should be like that, nobody. It's the bankers and the financial situation.
- 1:21:39Unknown: Yeah. And and the plundering of these nations, as you mentioned before, they are plundered they are now plundered for resources by
- 1:21:47supranational
- 1:21:48corporations,
- 1:21:49which are basically an extension of the hegemony of the city. Whether it's the city of London or Wall Street or whatever, it's a big sort of network of a a basically
- 1:21:58extractors of value for very, very little actual real work, and this is the whole thing. And, of course, these characters have been venerated in films. I'm a Wall Street trader. Look at me make billions. Yeah. Yeah. So you're a gambler then. And all and it's not that they lack intelligence. It's just that their intelligence has been hijacked in the most stupid pursuits.
- 1:22:16Well, I mean, it's it's mad.
- 1:22:18Unknown: I had a phone call about four years ago now, gosh, time's flying, four years ago,
- 1:22:24and I don't know who he was. He claimed
- 1:22:26he was a relative of Vincent Vicars, a distant relative.
- 1:22:31Okay. And he was obviously somebody working in the city because I know that he came to me via either David Pitcock or Ken Palmerton, that's how I get these anonymous phone calls, that's how and David and Ken are unfortunately no longer with us now, so I do feel as though I've been handed the baton if you like, but, this chap who claimed he wouldn't give me his name, just said I'm I'm just related to Vincent Vickers, he said,
- 1:22:54if you ever have any trouble at all with any economists,
- 1:22:58just use this against them. Now you know there are schools of economic thought. You've got the Austrian school, you've got the Keynesian school, you've got the school of the new economics, you've got all these wonderful schools, and he said, look, all of them suffer from one major problem.
- 1:23:15The entire financial world, every aspect of this financial banking, everything, the whole thing
- 1:23:21is
- 1:23:22basically being run by private individuals
- 1:23:25who are unelected,
- 1:23:27unaccountable,
- 1:23:29and who meet in complete secrecy
- 1:23:31to make decisions
- 1:23:32that affect us all. He said Yep. That is economics in a nutshell. He said you can defeat any economist,
- 1:23:39and of course the one economist that we have got on board and we do talk to him from time to time is Professor Richard Werner.
- 1:23:46People like him, and
- 1:23:49of course one of my questions that Rachel from accounts could not answer is when he when when when Richard said the entire
- 1:23:57city of London is classed as a separate entity, a separate country to the rest of the country. In other words, it's a it's a city state, it's it's independent.
- 1:24:06How can this be allowed?
- 1:24:08And of course they won't answer that question because if they do, and this is where we come on to 1688,
- 1:24:14this is where literally the city of London became a country in its own right, a state in its own right.
- 1:24:22And and I always say to people we didn't have a British Empire, we had a city of London Empire we were just useful idiots to shed our yeah,
- 1:24:31Unknown: and and I think this is I think that word British, Justin, by the way, I was writing to someone about it today because we had Graham Moore on a few weeks ago. Yeah.
- 1:24:40And and he's right about this word British. It's it's gonna be very difficult to shake off even for me, but I understand exactly where he's coming from. That we are English or Scots or Welsh, and these things are they're clearer to me instantly.
- 1:24:53Know, the English have very little voice
- 1:24:56in their own affairs. We've been completely subsumed
- 1:24:59by whatever is the latest tag,
- 1:25:01Great Britain, The United Kingdom, whatever it is.
- 1:25:05All but where's England? Okay. So we bring it back to life, and this is where,
- 1:25:10know, in my view, it's to do with the literally with the words that we use use often, use with conviction and intent to restore a kind of
- 1:25:20a
- 1:25:21connection, a spiritual and intellectual connection to who we are. Once you've lost that, you're ruthless, and that's exactly what they're creating because people like that are so easy to control.
- 1:25:32They they can be scared like geese. Boo. Oh, no. That This is coming.
- 1:25:36You need us to help you out. And and they're the ones creating all the problems in the first place. So the British
- 1:25:42I understand why, Graham, the British are the problem this way. It's gonna be very difficult to get rid of it. I accept that. But I I know exactly what and the Soviet is another word. He mentioned this the other day. Thought it's that if you think they got they talk about the Soviets,
- 1:25:56but people don't talk about the Russians. There's no such thing as the Soviets. The Soviets basically
- 1:26:01were was another label thrown over the Russians to demonize them, you know, and it and it wasn't even a Russian revolution. We know that. It was a sabotage v revolution, if you get my drift. You've given me the perfect segue for what I wanted to raise, another book for people to look at. Mhmm. And this is a gentleman who I met when I was in the ecology party,
- 1:26:21Unknown: Green Party,
- 1:26:23and he's a gentleman by the name of Leopold
- 1:26:26Kuhr,
- 1:26:27spelled k o h r.
- 1:26:29And he was the one who inspired EF Schumacher to write his book Small is Beautiful.
- 1:26:36Mhmm. And Leopold Kohr, he was an Austrian Jew with a wicked and dry sense of humor. He was a lovely man, and
- 1:26:44I I was fortunate enough to sit down three on three occasions with him. He wrote a book called The Breakdown of Nations
- 1:26:51and what he meant by the breakdown of nations, he said small nations
- 1:26:55never really create big problems. Small nations tend to create only small problems,
- 1:27:00and and he cited the Holy Roman Empire which was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire. It was just a multitude of bishoprics and god knows what else that you know. But basically
- 1:27:11his tenet was he wrote it down in the nineteen fifties.
- 1:27:15He he was doing a bit of a joke, really. He thought it was a but then he started to realize there was a lot of truth to it. And it's only when you have a world which has got mega
- 1:27:24countries,
- 1:27:25massive countries,
- 1:27:28which throw their weight around,
- 1:27:30that
- 1:27:31destabilizes
- 1:27:32everything. But if you had a a tapestry
- 1:27:34of countries, small countries who are proud, he always cites the Swiss model with the cantons and everything as a perfect working model of how it should be compared to other countries which are clearly not. And I was laughing because I thought to myself well do we decentralize
- 1:27:49England even further? Now you tell me you're from bloody Yorkshire. Now speaking as a Lancastrian,
- 1:27:54I think I've been quite civil to you. I think I've conducted myself in You've a been very very nice to me Justin I so
- 1:28:01Unknown: have tolerated you not You have. Well done.
- 1:28:05Unknown: You know you keep telling me you're God's country so maybe you need to be your own country. You may have to be I've said it for years. When we were growing up as kids, right, we used to talk about that.
- 1:28:17Unknown: And seriously, we didn't know why we talked about it, but it was just mentioned all the time. I think I need to go back, become king or whatever we're gonna do, and we'll put a bloody wall around it, and we'll issue Yorkshire passports.
- 1:28:28And and we say, hey. All you other counties do the same thing. I'll tell you, interesting. One of the things I've just started watching, veering off slightly,
- 1:28:36there was a TV series filmed about this all sounds bad, doesn't it? Whenever I mention something like this, even I get slightly worried. It was filmed about eleven years back called The Seven Kingdoms,
- 1:28:47and it's about Alfred. It starts off at least the there's 48 episodes in it. I've watched four or five.
- 1:28:54It's fascinatingly good. I mean, it's obviously a slightly theatrical we're talking about. This is Alfred Good Old Great. Yes. That's right. Absolutely. It's about the arrival of the Vikings. It's it's very well done,
- 1:29:05and it's it's got an it's got a a fictional thread in where there's a young English boy who's basically taken away by the Danes to settle something, and he he grows up as a Dane, but then he comes back to work with Alfred. And there's all these friction. So it it provides you with all the dramatic conflicts that you need to keep a story propelled forward.
- 1:29:24But it's it's it's there's just something gritty about it. Of course, the seven kingdoms were like Wessex and Mercia and Northumbria, etcetera, those, and Anglia,
- 1:29:33which were all kicking 10 bells out of each other. Most of them apart from Wessex had fallen, and of course, is about the recovery coming back. We've not even got to all this kind stuff, but it it comes there's a great deal of sort of intelligence in the way it's written. Now whether and I've got to assume they had that to to a great degree. It's written by Bernard Cornwell who used to write the Sharp novels which were turned into a TV series as well. I never yep Yep. Yep. I don't watch a lot of TV, but someone suggested this, and I'm think and I'm, like, fifty minutes long, and I'm going, this is really good. I get out of my head tapping into a connective thread for me personally because I live in these islands. I am English, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:30:12But county government would be the way to go, and, you know, if we're gonna have one, the thing is that men tend to form these things. Why do they form them? It's not I don't think in the first instances, it's for negative or cruel or vicious purposes.
- 1:30:26I think in many ways, they do it to ward off the villains in their own community and get them in check. There's
- 1:30:33lots of it's much more complicated than just these guys are good and these guys are bad. I mean, when they've been consistently bad for like two, three thousand years, go, yeah, they really they really are bad. They're irretrievably bad. That that's evil what they're doing because they've developed a culture to support it. But most people I think get together. If you look at nearly everything, even the Labour Party now, which is a joke, when it got started in the eighteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds, there was a genuine requirement. Yeah.
- 1:30:59Okay. So the but it was a buildup or whatever they were doing. The liberals were falling apart. The working man was being treated like dog dirt.
- 1:31:07Right? Now you maybe they were instrumental in that as well. You always have to go even back. You go, what were the causative reasons to bring this about? Oh, there was that. And then we look at the industrial revolution. This is what Dickens wrote about. And by the way, on today's image,
- 1:31:21that is, Dickens
- 1:31:23looking out over London. I'm just letting you all know that. But it was the closest thing I could get to a sort of city type image for what we're talking about, which I thought was appropriate.
- 1:31:32Unknown: And this is what Dickens wrote about, you know, and then you look at the whole you've done a lot of this with the Chartists, haven't you, Justin, and things like started to think of a new Chartist movement. Yes. Mean, we've been playing around with different things. Mean, we've got the Holistic Alliance for Real Ecology because we're trying to show the Greens
- 1:31:48that they've been hijacked
- 1:31:49by the bankers, by the globalists, by the people who have given them that such rubbish as this climate change and all the rest of it. We've gone to the new chartists to try and remind the Labour Party of their roots.
- 1:32:00Mhmm. We we actually went to Winchester and we did the Winchester declaration.
- 1:32:05Oh, that was back in about 2016 or something like that. I remember that. Yeah. I've got a record of that somewhere. We got 500. This is I mean, we're going to help historians who we know we're going to succeed. We know that things are happening and no doubt the future historians will want guidance. And we actually did the the Winchester declaration because we deliberately chose Winchester, we deliberately with that wonderful statue of Alfred,
- 1:32:29we knew that he that was gonna be the root start of where we're coming back and that's why love this idea of root moots and wittons and and really putting Alfred back on the pedestal because he was a great man. He really was. Yeah he really He was.
- 1:32:46Was the only king, I mean, Cnut, Cnut, Cnut, whatever you want to call him, but I think sometimes they call him great, but Alfred really was a truly the great king of this these isles.
- 1:32:56Unknown: Yeah, he was. He met a challenge brilliantly, particularly you know in defeating the Danes and then not slaughtering them and inviting them to actually become Christian. Whatever you may think about that, and I understand all these variations, but it held them together and pulled them together in a particular way. And this route, you know, from that you get I know he sent his daughter out just talking about county governments.
- 1:33:17When he was looking at all these seven kingdoms, his daughter, I've forgotten the name, she did a great deal of work on this. He sent her out throughout all the regions, the other seven kingdoms, and said come back with all of the best practical laws that actually work from each of these kingdoms. And that's how he compiled the common law. It began this route of the common law, which I view as scriptural law applied in a pragmatic sense to a people that could could uptake it, take it up. And I think this is why it's very important. I want peace for all people, but I understand
- 1:33:48that I am a Yorkshireman and an Englishman in that order,
- 1:33:51and even though I don't sound very Yorkshire these days, but I can put it on if I want to, and and I go, well, were the cards I got dealt. Is it not right of me to respect whatever it was that caused me to be born there and not pretend that I can sort somebody else's problems out? You know, when you're talking about the children everywhere, these are like and it's a hellish symptom
- 1:34:11of a disease that sits to a great degree that's infected the West. Let's use that one. It's infected us, and it's the great point of infection is the currency system. It's not a money system. It's a privately controlled currency
- 1:34:25system, and why has it gained traction? To a great degree because it's been able to play on a great weakness of all people, which is the weakness of I need more purchasing power at the expense of my neighbor.
- 1:34:38And and and it's the and that's not Christian in the best sense of the word. I'm not talking about churches. I'm talking about being a decent chap and chapess. It doesn't work. It destroys your village when you get aggressively
- 1:34:50acquisitive people in there, and they had restraints for stopping that getting out of. Those restraints have gone because the currency guys, the currency mafia, one of the first things that they do once they got in charge of that is they invade the cause.
- 1:35:02You can't get redress of grievances anymore. They hate the common law because, you know, there's actually sections in there that specifically address the group of people, the unmentionables.
- 1:35:12They're actually written in it. You've got to get out. And this is why we go back to 1688
- 1:35:17Unknown: because this was an invasion
- 1:35:19by maritime law onto the law of the land. The law of the sea invaded the law of the land. Yeah. And
- 1:35:26this is what always makes me this is what I'm saying 1688
- 1:35:29now,
- 1:35:30and I do recommend you go to to to William Keats,
- 1:35:34Unknown: I'm trying to remember what his website I'll try and get him on in a few months time actually,
- 1:35:38Unknown: Justin. But his latest research on 1688
- 1:35:41with he's got a team around him of doing this. I mean, instance, we're told that James second had to be removed because he was going to impose Catholicism
- 1:35:50on the nation
- 1:35:52and the whole thing was going to be, you know, terrible. So the Protestants had to gather strength and come together,
- 1:35:58and we had to look overseas to the Dutch to to provide a Protestant
- 1:36:03king with the the daughter of the previous king married to him to be queen and all that. But what we're not told is the truth. James the second
- 1:36:12wanted
- 1:36:13basically
- 1:36:14wanted all religions
- 1:36:16to to benefit from
- 1:36:18openness and transparency. He wanted them everyone to be able to worship whatever they wanted without being victimized for it. And do you know who one of James the second's best friends was, an adviser?
- 1:36:30And I don't think you'd never guess.
- 1:36:33William Penn, the Quaker, who started Pennsylvania and all that. William Penn was a close confidant of James the second. Now you never get to hear about that. And of course, what always makes me laugh about the the the, you know, the the the basically the,
- 1:36:49the the, well, what do we call it? The the,
- 1:36:52Church of England.
- 1:36:54The Church of England was started
- 1:36:56by a bloody bully, a megalomaniac,
- 1:36:59a psychopath, I don't know what you want to call him, had two of his wives murdered.
- 1:37:03I mean, really was a a a pretty obnoxious
- 1:37:07fellow.
- 1:37:08Unknown: And You know, have you ever read have you ever seen the Venetian ambassador's
- 1:37:12reports on Henry the eighth? I don't know if you've ever seen I have. I have. They're
- 1:37:17stunning. Something went wrong with him.
- 1:37:20Something went wrong. He was got to. He did turn out to be this maniac, but Yeah. Didn't start. Something got to him because he wasn't like that others. And you see, you know, we were talking about political parties that they exist to divide and conquer. Well, all these flavors of religion have done exactly the same thing.
- 1:37:38And I'm not talking about I'm not I don't think there isn't a unified religion. This is my take on it. I don't think scripture is a religious book. It's about a way of life for a particular people based on law. Here's the historical record of them. This is what happens to them when they keep it. It works. This is what happens to them when they don't. It's terrible.
- 1:37:58And we are going through a terrible terrible phase right now because we've
- 1:38:02inadvertently,
- 1:38:03unconsciously,
- 1:38:04ignorantly
- 1:38:05moved away from it because we're distracted with all the bells and whistles of modern life. Watch TV, do this, drink more beer, do that kind of stuff. Anybody want to talk about you know who you actually are, what your life is, why you exist? Oh, we don't want to talk about that. It's boring. No. That's all I want to talk about because that's the stuff that's not talked This is this is why we're talking about humanity first. It is about mobilizing
- 1:38:28Unknown: human values for all decision making, and I've got my list here in front of me: compassion, empathy, generosity, kindness, decency,
- 1:38:36you know, wisdom,
- 1:38:37service, truth, and the best one is love.
- 1:38:40Now you know, hey,
- 1:38:42all decisions should be made based around that, not about vested interests and what we can get for ourselves and all the rest of it. And this is where we've now got to have a we must avoid the word revolution because you end up where you start on the revolution.
- 1:38:57You've got to have a full blown change.
- 1:39:00It's and I don't like that word change either because I hope and change are the two words the empty political parties use to tell us what's coming. Hope and change. Hope and change. No. This wants to be full,
- 1:39:11you know, full scale rebellion.
- 1:39:13Unknown: We've had enough. We're replacing. The whole system's rotten to the core, locked on I have a different word for you, Justin, that also begins with r, which I prefer, which is restoration
- 1:39:23Unknown: because Yes. Yes. No. I can go along with that. Yeah. Think,
- 1:39:27Unknown: and I've said it before, I don't I can't speak for other nations because I don't know their history, but I know quite a bit about ours
- 1:39:34and we have so many tools in our back pocket. You've mentioned some of them here this evening and there are even more that when re when we re familiarize ourselves with them, which is part of this communication process I think that we're in right now,
- 1:39:48and these are dusted off, picked up and understood how to use them like the English constitution in its various documents that compile it. See Graham Moore for this. Like Magna Carta, is part of that thing you go, hey, hang on. This stuff really is golden treasure. It is because it's about all the guidelines. You need them. We need law to basically say these are the limits of behavior
- 1:40:12if we want to have a go at living a civilized decent life. We have to put limits on people. I wanna do anything I like. Well, you can, but you'll have to go over there and do it because we're not interested in running around naked covered in blue paint screaming at the moon. That's not what we want to do. Think that's I pretty thought you were that to get the rain.
- 1:40:28Well I'm
- 1:40:29gonna be doing that this evening after the show of course in the night in the nighttime when my neighbors can't see me of course I've been out there the last few days and and all that kind of stuff. Yeah someone's got to do it, it's a hard job Justin, but someone's got to go out there and get covered in woad and yell at the moon.
- 1:40:43Unknown: We move up to to Lake District and we were all right, we've got our rain, know, it's lovely. But, no, you're absolutely right. And one of the things we are thinking about doing
- 1:40:52is that you talk about the twelve fifteen Great Charter,
- 1:40:56which according to the politicians, they can muck around with and they feel as though they've been allowed to tamper with it, which No. They can't. You if you read William Keat and Ken Dudney
- 1:41:05and others,
- 1:41:07Great Charter is the Great Charter. It's only confirming, it's not creating, it's confirming
- 1:41:12the common law, natural law. Well, one of the things we've got to think about is a new addendum to the Great Charter,
- 1:41:19not to change the Great Charter, but to have an addendum and one of the parts of that addendum
- 1:41:23would be reinforce the Great Charter to bring it up, if you like, today's language so they understand the importance of what the original Charter was about,
- 1:41:31but also we have to remove
- 1:41:33the ancient privileges from the City Of London
- 1:41:36because you can't just do it through a parliament or something like that.
- 1:41:41Basically the privileges given granted to the City of London were granted by William the first to start with, but then gradually over a period of time, and 1688
- 1:41:50of course they got there, the only way you can overturn that is by do it by
- 1:41:55doing an addendum to the Great Charter and having the King or Queen It needs to be restored.
- 1:42:00Needs to be restored.
- 1:42:02Unknown: You weren't were you taught it at school, Justin? Were you fortunate to have it addressed at school at any point? Great Charter?
- 1:42:09Unknown: Yeah. Yes. No. No. We we I wasn't.
- 1:42:12Unknown: Oh, well. Didn't tell they didn't tell us a diddly squat. The one of the other things is, you know, the trivium, this thing about grammar,
- 1:42:19rhetoric, and debate. Right? Yeah. The three cause of communication.
- 1:42:24They used to see I was talking to someone the other day, apparently, in English schools up until the late sixties. Now I didn't go to high school till 1971.
- 1:42:31Okay? So it gone.
- 1:42:33And I'm going, look. Oh, we're gonna do the trivia. Of course, the word is enough to make you puke if you're from Yorkshire. Isn't it called chips or something? You know? It's just not It's a funny word. You know what I mean? I don't it's that Latin. I'm not putting it with that crap. That's how we used to respond to all that was, all that dead language, but it's absolutely sound. You know, here we are using words.
- 1:42:52Even all the sciences have to be described in our case in English. They have to be. I can't comprehend what you're saying otherwise. So the language is absolute the pinnacle of all these things and
- 1:43:03it doesn't scripture say in the beginning was the word and it seems to me much of our sort of the fact that we've become lost a great deal. All these definitions of words have been shifted a bit and nudged over there, and we'll call it this, and this means that, and you're all included. You go, woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. This is so imprecise.
- 1:43:21Language can be absolutely 100% precise. And when it is, you get clarity in the head of the student, and then everybody looks at one and go, do we all know and understand the same thing? This is the great challenge. You could read a book. I could read the same book, and we might have a difference of view about what we've read. This is natural. Okay? So we might have to talk about it and go, does that really mean that? I I in other words, what's that thing? Comprehension
- 1:43:44is very low. It's a very low level out there. People do not comprehend
- 1:43:49what they're actually hearing, even half the time what they're saying. I include me at times, know. I'm going, I could have said that better.
- 1:43:56It needs to be said better. And Churchill whose guts I hate did unfortunately say a lot of really intelligent things particularly about language and one of the things he said was the the old words are best and the old short words better still. Now that's a fantastic use of language. Look at all those words. Really simple short crystal clear, he knew what to do with language or at least his his ghost writers did because he didn't write that history of World War two. There's about five
- 1:44:23he didn't. There's about five military guys. I've got their names. They were all roped into doing it and then he just sat around getting pissed on champagne smoking cigars that I did this you know and all that kind of stuff so
- 1:44:34I'm not impressed with them. Of course it's rather appalling isn't it when he comes up the greatest Britain that ever lived are you kidding me? I'm
- 1:44:41Unknown: finding it quite funny because I turn my head I'm looking at my collection of classic books and I've got the first edition of all five of those books. Have you? Yeah.
- 1:44:49Unknown: Yeah if you want the names of major this that and the other who wrote all these sections, somebody did a post on it, it's fantastic you know those guys knew what they were talking about. The guy the general who I admired most in the second world war,
- 1:45:03Unknown: was the,
- 1:45:04Alan Brooke, general Alan Brooke who later became field marshal Alan Brooke.
- 1:45:09Yeah. He was the one who kept the Americans and Churchill and everyone concentrated
- 1:45:15on a strategy, and that's why I'm so keen on talking about strategy for how we get out of this mess and how we collapse the house of cards
- 1:45:24without having hierarchies and leaders and having our version of forage and god knows what else. We just need people to just stand up and say, sorry, we're not playing this game. I mean, there's after all, and this is something my uncle said, my uncle said there were 10,000 people who run the world.
- 1:45:41When I I spoke to a guy who was a he he was asked to commit, he was asked to take part in a child sacrifice to join the Bank for International Settlement,
- 1:45:52a Dutch banker called Ronald Bernard,
- 1:45:54and I talked to him and he said that 8,000 people, eight and a half thousand people run the world. Well, our population at the moment, allegedly, is what we're told,
- 1:46:03is around about 8,200,000,000
- 1:46:05or whatever. So it's roughly speaking 1,000,000
- 1:46:09of us to every one of these bastards who are trying to,
- 1:46:13ruin the lives of everybody,
- 1:46:15for personal gain. So I I actually feel very confident that we are going to win this, but we need a strategy. And Alan Brooke, when you read his rouse he had with Churchill, and Churchill was boozed up, and there's nothing wrong with being boozed up. I mean, I like to think some of my best ideas come when I've had a a I was just assuming you're completely boozed up for this show, to be quite honest, Justin, and holding your liquor really well. It was only three glasses, I would say. Maybe I and I did You're letting the side down. This is terrible. It's not good at all. A glass of Madeira as well, but anyway there we go. But,
- 1:46:51I I do I do like my Madeira. My great grandfather was buried on the island of Madeira, I love Madeira. It's a lovely place.
- 1:46:57Unknown: Great cake as well.
- 1:46:59Unknown: There's
- 1:47:01a I like Madeira, but no joking apart, mean, yeah,
- 1:47:05Alan Brooke,
- 1:47:06I have, my favorite corps commander was Brian Horrocks,
- 1:47:10whose family came from Bolton, my hometown, alleged you know,
- 1:47:14and in fact but one of the things I'm telling the wife, I said when I die and I've helped save the nation, want a state funeral
- 1:47:21in Bolton.
- 1:47:22I'm not having it in bloody London, I'm having it in Bolton. Ah, Bolton.
- 1:47:28Love the accent around there you know, that isn't that where Peter K's from around there? Well it is Peter K in fact, and it's a irony now. Had had my parents not moved to Southport and then various things, had I stayed in the house we were at, we would have had Peter K as our neighbor because he's in the house next door now.
- 1:47:45But,
- 1:47:46I I do laugh because one of the people I knew very well was Steeplejack, Fred Dibner.
- 1:47:52Unknown: Oh, wow. We talk about him, absolutely outstanding
- 1:47:56Unknown: bloke. I mean, off the charts. Amazing. He he was known to our family before he became famous because he looked after one of the chimneys at the tannery. Our family business was tanning
- 1:48:06and and
- 1:48:08he also helped my, one of my father's cousins create his restaurant called The Last Drop and, so Fred was known on he's well on our radar, so we knew him as a friend And, towards the end of his life, I got to know him very well. And and he he he he was he was just wonderful. And of course, I love I I have an idea for you, Justin, that Go on. That when we when we get back in charge of a proper money system owned
- 1:48:34Unknown: by the people,
- 1:48:36that on one of the notes we put Fred on one of notes. That's a bloody good idea. No. I I know. I I like that. I like that. Yeah. I like it too. It's I'd spend I wouldn't wanna spend them. I'd say, no. Fred's a treasure staying in my wallet. Let me let me tell you a true story.
- 1:48:53Unknown: My cousin Nick, he he has a small little company. He he does documentaries. He was doing one on Fred. In fact, he's got a lot of footage of Fred that's not been released yet, and my my cousin was, he used to go up the chimneys and film Fred coming up the bloody chimney. Don't know how he got the guts to do it anyway, but we took him down to South Southall,
- 1:49:12in London,
- 1:49:13to go and the guy who owned the Flying Scotsman at the time was having it rebuilt down there, so Fred wanted to go down and was going to be filmed talking to the owner and talking to the thing, and so I had a big estate car in those days, company car,
- 1:49:28and, so I went to pick up my cousin and one of his assistants and I picked up Fred and myself.
- 1:49:35And so we went down with all the equipment and we stopped off on a motorway service station
- 1:49:40and and I'm not joking,
- 1:49:42it was like, I don't think I can't name all the the hot young you know, one of these people who's that lady who's just got married in in America who's worth billions or whatever you know? I don't know Archie Ball Bumblebee,
- 1:49:55Unknown: Alice I know yeah I know the one you need, blonde yeah whatever she is. Yeah yeah Pop stars. Well Fred,
- 1:50:03Unknown: I'm not joking all the truck drivers and all the big macho men with tattoos all over them and everything else, they swarmed round our table. Hey Fred, here give us a and Fred
- 1:50:15was as honestly everything you saw on telly is what you got in real life. There was no pretense, nothing. The only thing is the BBC had to try and persuade him not to say the word bugger.
- 1:50:26Mean I Shocking!
- 1:50:30He's gone down in my estimation Justin for saying that. On my bucket list on my bucket list I want to be able to say bugger and bollocks
- 1:50:38on live television
- 1:50:39and hear the You've just said it here. This is better than live TV. This is this is where it's happening. See, the trouble is I know you guys aren't going to apologize for what you're going to encourage me. So I I just like the idea of the BBC in a grave tone apologizing
- 1:50:54if anyone's been offended.
- 1:50:56And by the way, when I become Prime Minister for one month, I'm sending to prison anyone who's offended. I'm fed up with people taking offence. Yes. I've never taken offence. I find people who get offended offensive, don't you? Offensive that people get offended.
- 1:51:09Unknown: I'm offended because I'm offended.
- 1:51:11Unknown: And
- 1:51:12we're gonna bypass the jury system. It's so bad. We're gonna bypass the jury system. I'll Yeah. No. Well, I don't possibly.
- 1:51:20Unknown: You know, there's that great thing that that mister Dibner said as well. He said men in overalls built this country and men in suits destroyed it. He's
- 1:51:29Unknown: just spot on. You've hit the nail on the head there, you've hit the nail on there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I honestly I'm privileged to have known Fred. You are. Yeah. I'm jealous actually. I'm very jealous When I in a good supposed to be going around flogging leather,
- 1:51:42I used to nip down to his workshop and say,
- 1:51:45and, a couple of a cup of oily tea would be given to me and he'd be opening his book on steam engines and stuff he'd say hey that was in your father's factory that one and I get a lecture on it. It was wonderful lovely man lovely man sorely missed.
- 1:52:00Unknown: Think the thing is that because he's like one of those people that you know when you're in the presence of anybody that loves what they're doing, you end up loving it as well.
- 1:52:08It doesn't matter what it is when someone is actually just foot and the way he talked about steam engines when he did the steam engine programs you just go, I could just watch this all night because this guy's in love, and that love come you know, it's not sort of a puffy look. It's like a real passion for what he's talking about, and it's just redolent with all of these things that we associate goodness with possibly falsely, but I don't care because it just gives you that warm feeling in your heart and you're going, look at this, a good bloke in the on the earth doing this stuff. And, you know, when he used to go up those chimneys, I used to just brick it. I can't watch people on heights on film. I can't stand it.
- 1:52:47Like, I just I just go, what the bloody hell are you doing? He's like a chimney monkey.
- 1:52:52Just yeah. And, you know, when he went up the thing, they never showed you him putting the ladder up. I'm going, how did you put the bloody ladder up in the first place to get up there?
- 1:53:01Unknown: Unbelievable. I actually that once. That was incredible to how how you get started, know. But I usually say, you know, one slip and it's half day half a day out at the Undertaker.
- 1:53:11You know, I mean, he he he really he really mean,
- 1:53:15Unknown: but I can't How did he come down? He come down, have three pints for lunch, and then go back up in the afternoon. I'm going I know. What? I'm just we're just not made out of that stuff anymore. I don't know what stuff he was made out of, but it's just amazing stuff. One of the things I'm proud to say I'm a Lancastrian,
- 1:53:31Unknown: is that the day that when we woke up, we heard that Diana had been killed in the road traffic accident,
- 1:53:38and we were actually going on that day to watch Fred drop a chimney at Chorley in Chorley near Bolton.
- 1:53:46And, so we thought, was he going to be canceled? No. Everybody turned up and I mean, I'm not joking, there must have been 10,000 people there watching Fred drop a chimney and of course doing it the old fashioned way, undermining it, etcetera. But the black humor was incredible because everyone was in a state of shock about Diana.
- 1:54:06But even even,
- 1:54:08one of his mates, one of his helpers, he said, hey, It said paparazzi wouldn't chase Fred. They wouldn't know what to do. His Land Rover can't do faster than 20.
- 1:54:17And, you know, and they were cracking jokes. And that to me,
- 1:54:20even though they sound like very poor taste, that explains
- 1:54:24Unknown: what normal is like about. That's what over here. That's what it's like around here and that's what they're trying to chew up. Of that kind of resilient cheek
- 1:54:33and mouthiness
- 1:54:35And you know when we were talking earlier today and Eric talks about this loads and he's absolutely smart, we talk about humor,
- 1:54:41to humiliate them because they can't abide it so that's what we've to keep literally extracting the urine from them all the time. If you if you'd wanna know how to spend the rest of your life, you couldn't you couldn't pick a worse thing than that. It's a really good thing to do. It's just developing. And it's it's an Achilles heel.
- 1:54:58Unknown: And, course, the other thing is they like to show off.
- 1:55:01This is the one thing that I learned from my uncle and meeting people socially that I did at an early age. They do like to tell you what they're doing.
- 1:55:09Unknown: They medals love and their plumes and all that sort of poncing about and all that stuff. Did you actually fight? No.
- 1:55:16They didn't actually do any of that, but they like to be on parade, and you just go, what are we dealing with? Why? In other words, there's a part of most human beings that are literally ashamed
- 1:55:26Unknown: to do that, and they don't have any shame at all do they? None. Not like I'm detained. It's as I said, and I I look at the royal family today, and I'm a monarchist, but not for the royal house that we have at the moment. That we have. Yeah. I I I understand that. I mean my favorite monarch,
- 1:55:43and I I have to say I have a total love affair for this guy, King Hawken the seventh of, Norway,
- 1:55:49who was the one he's a Danish prince,
- 1:55:52and when Norway ceded from Sweden in 1905,
- 1:55:55they said we ought to have a royal house, we need to so we look around for a spare prince and they found,
- 1:56:01this chap in in Denmark
- 1:56:03and he came and he said, well, look, I can't just walk into your country. I've got to know that the people want me. So he he agreed to a plebiscite.
- 1:56:11So he was an elected monarch rather like the Saxon kings were elected. They were elected by their peers,
- 1:56:17know. Do we want him? Is he not just automatic,
- 1:56:20you know, promotion when when the father dies or whatever, you know, you you become king or queen or whatever? No. So he said no, I'm going to,
- 1:56:28I I need to know that the people want me and apart from 50,000 communists,
- 1:56:33they overwhelmed.
- 1:56:34But he then went to see the communists to say I'm still your king and and anything I can do to help you. And of course, he stood up to the quizlings and when there's an excellent film called The King's Choice, I recommend it. It's been out about five or six years, and it's a Norwegian film, but it showed how essentially he managed to keep the Norwegian government together. They went into exile and carried on the war until they got freedom.
- 1:56:58And and that to me, he was a he was a true monarch,
- 1:57:02a true monarch, very humble, lived a very humble life. He didn't really want a lot of wealth or anything like that,
- 1:57:08and and that's a sort of king or queen we need today. We but not a royal family that's been tarnished the way the House of Windsor or Saxe Coburg And Gopher had been tarnished
- 1:57:18Unknown: for Have we have we ever had a king Justin?
- 1:57:21Alright. We certainly never had a king Paul. You can forget that. No. No. Won't mind it. I won't I'd look quite good with that crown and a scepter,
- 1:57:29and it'll be alright. I'd do a good job. Joking I did jokingly say to Neil Oliver
- 1:57:34Unknown: a few months ago, I said, you know, he's so popular when he speaks, I'd said they'd be wanting you as king.
- 1:57:40Unknown: He's got to be the king of Scotland, he's got to be. That's true, yes,
- 1:57:45King Neil the third He can't he can't it's just not on. It's it'd be wrong for everybody. He can't go and let the Scots down by not being their king. No. I mean Let's get some kings back. Why don't we just let's just get a whole people's thing. You know, someone's written a thing about memes here, which I thought was really rather rather witty.
- 1:58:02Oh, it's been deleted. No. Has it? I don't know. It's about memeing oh, can't read it now. It about memeing them to death.
- 1:58:09And I think it is, you know, all this humiliation stuff. It's wonderful when we can use AI against them.
- 1:58:15I mean, AI is oof. Don't even get Well, you know what we've got in Yorkshire, don't we? Don't you, Justin? We don't have AI. We have O I. It's it's and that stands for omnipotent intelligence, which, of course, all Yorkshiremen are born with. It's just that they don't show off. You know? They just get drunk instead. Can I just say one word can I just say one word to you? Yeah. Bosworth.
- 1:58:38What happened there then? I can't remember that.
- 1:58:41Unknown: Oh, that was just a little incident. Henry the seventh, but Henry the seventh was a pretty ghastly fellow. In fact, I think after Richard the third and what we've learned about his body coming up from the car park and everything else,
- 1:58:52that Shakespeare
- 1:58:53got the he stabbed Shakespeare stabbed Richard the third in the back. I think I'm gonna have to say I would probably have backed Richard the third over Henry the seventh. So there you are. That's coming from a Lancastrian.
- 1:59:03Unknown: So consider yourself honored tonight that I have said that I I I do. We're not behaving disgracefully, are we? Like some of our forebears did. We're we're behaving very very well. Somebody here doesn't go so Mike Mantis said King Paul the other one as in King Paul the other. Well, that's a that's a little bit of a shocker for my for my reign. I'm a bit put
- 1:59:24out by that.
- 1:59:26But, yeah, I mean I'm I'm I'm definitely not for the the the I'm Oh, we're out of time. We're out of time. Look at me. I'm not paying attention. Just hang on a second. I gotta play a song. I've gotta say goodbye. Yeah. We were gassing some we gotta say goodbye to WBN three two four. We'll be back again same time next week. We're carrying on a FFT radio.
- 1:59:44In the final hour, we got Monica Shaver rocking up in a few minutes time. We'll just finish off, Justin, after this. I'm gonna play a song to take us across the break, and we'll be back on the other side. You wanna keep on listening, go to fftradio.com
- 1:59:57or paulenglishlive.com,
- 1:59:58and you can come on in. Here's a song by Geraint Watkins.
- 2:00:03I haven't played this for a little time. It's quite nice. Heaven only knows. We'll see on the other side of this.
- 2:00:14Unknown: Heaven
- 2:00:15only knows
- 2:00:16the answer.
- 2:00:19Heaven only knows
- 2:00:21what it is.
- 2:00:24What it is.
- 2:00:29What it is.
- 2:00:50In my mind.
- 2:00:56It's no secret.
- 2:01:01Heaven only knows
- 2:01:07heaven only knows why I love you
- 2:01:13heaven only knows
- 2:01:14what I feel like I do
- 2:01:17like I
- 2:01:19do,
- 2:01:22like I
- 2:01:23do.
- 2:01:27It's no secret,
- 2:01:33but heaven only knows.
- 2:02:22Heaven only knows
- 2:02:24what you're thinking
- 2:02:28heaven only knows what goes on in your mind
- 2:02:31in your mind.
- 2:02:35Lord,
- 2:02:37in your mind.
- 2:02:39Yeah.
- 2:02:42It's no secret.
- 2:04:17Unknown: A good song to have a few glasses of wine to that one. That was, Geraint Wat kins and heaven only knows. Monica Shafer's waiting in the wings, but I'm just gonna wrap up here briefly with,
- 2:04:27with Justin. Justin, it's been fantastic tonight. We've had a lot of fun, and I'd love to get you back for more fun and chat with It
- 2:04:36yeah. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you Paul for inviting me. It's been a great fun. It's really good to get it as it were from the Bradbury pound horse's mouth about all of that stuff. It's right in my bailiwick. I've got loads of this kind of stuff And, you know, from a distance, I've been aware of what you've been doing for the last ten years or so, which has been great, and to finally get to meet you. So shout out to Karen, Karen Dodd Kizzy,
- 2:04:59without which I wouldn't have got to connect up with you. So this is old Karen. Yeah. Good old Karen. She's Yeah. A she's a very good matchmaker, and she set us off in the right pub. So
- 2:05:09she did. It's wonderful, and and thanks for just listening through the song to get this. I just wanted to close out. It was my fault. We kinda overrun on the other thing. No. No. No. I was rabbiting away. No. It's been great fun, Paul. Thank you very rabbited away brilliantly, and you see, Lancastrians and Yorkshiremen can get on. It's it's a complete myth. It's one it's wonderful stuff, and I'm gonna have you back. So brilliant, Justin. We'll Brilliant. Thank you very much. Absolutely brilliant. And have a good glass of wine on us, we'll and see you in a few weeks time. Now. Definitely a glass of a dear.
- 2:05:38Wonderful.
- 2:05:39Okay. Brilliant. Justin Walker, everybody. I'll just remove you from the studio, Justin, now. And, we're gonna oh, I nearly removed the wrong person there.
- 2:05:48My eyesight is not working too well. Let's bring Monica on.
- 2:05:53Monica,
- 2:05:54hello.
- 2:05:56Unknown: Hello.
- 2:05:57Is this,
- 2:05:58I should do a sound check. How am I coming through? I'm using a different system than normal. You sound delightful.
- 2:06:05Unknown: You sound absolutely delightful. Yeah. You do. You sound delightful. There was a little pause. I thought maybe you didn't hear me at all.
- 2:06:12Well, you've had me in a you've had me in a panic for the last twenty four hours. I shouldn't get in a panic, should I? I'm thinking, no. No. No. I know. But I do. I just do. I need reassurance
- 2:06:22all the time. I thought, oh, maybe she's off chasing, I don't know, antelope or whatever you've got over there in Canada or you don't have those. But Bears.
- 2:06:31Unknown: Bears and cougars.
- 2:06:33Unknown: Yeah absolutely and so now you know what it was a month since you were on and this month seems long now. This is a long one it seems quite a while since we had you on whereas previously it's like every ten minutes but this seems quite a stretch actually and of course you're lollygagging all over the place because you were with Eric on Monday. I couldn't believe it. It was just unbelievable. You're just on all of the radio shows. Eric's here, of course, because he just can't get enough of it. He can't get enough of you, Monica. This is what's going on. Hello,
- 2:06:58Unknown: Eric.
- 2:06:59Unknown: Long time no see. That's right. Yes. By the way, do you being a lady of the Canadian Rockies and that, I think you're in the Rockies, aren't you, somewhere around there? Yeah. I'm I'm just on the Western Side of the Rockies.
- 2:07:12Unknown: I used to be right in the middle of the Rockies when I lived in Jasper for thirty seven years, but now I'm just West.
- 2:07:18Unknown: Really? Do do you know how to catch a polar bear?
- 2:07:22No. I do. Do you really? How? Yeah. Yeah. You drill a hole in the ice,
- 2:07:28and you put peas around the outside of the ice,
- 2:07:32you see, around the hole. See? When the polar bear comes for a pee, you kick him in the ice hole.
- 2:07:40You
- 2:07:42do come up with them. Yeah. That's good. Surprising
- 2:07:46Unknown: star to the show.
- 2:07:48Unknown: Yeah. This is good. Yeah. We just want gags, Eric. Just tell us loads of gags. That's what we need. We need gags and gags and gags. That's what we Life is too serious. Right? So it's good. Gotta get some laughs.
- 2:08:00Unknown: When we take control, I think we will make Armor Lumberjack,
- 2:08:04the national anthem of Canada. Do you remember that? On Monty Python, Armor Lumberjack, and Armor Yes.
- 2:08:11Unknown: That would be perfect.
- 2:08:12Unknown: Mhmm. It would be perfect. For just for Justine
- 2:08:16Unknown: Trudeau, that would be perfect for him, actually.
- 2:08:18Unknown: Justine. Yes. Yes. Yes. I don't know. Oh, yeah. It would. It would, wouldn't it? Because the lumberjack wants to dress up as a lady at the end of the singer sketch, doesn't he, or something? That's right. It's all in his big wearing. I know there's all that stuff about Justine Trudeau, but I I don't I don't think that part of it is true. But I do think he was fully, fully groomed from a young child up to take his role as
- 2:08:43prime minister.
- 2:08:45And
- 2:08:46Unknown: I I don't I don't buy that that he started out as a girl. I just don't think so. No. I don't know. But I there's a lot of those sadies. Floating around. Now that people know that Yeah. I think that some of it went on is as if people look at things and go, start ascribing that condition to everyone and go, no. No. Just hold back. You know? It just gets mad. It gets out of control. He was actually brought here by aliens, you know, and turned into a woman, and then he he presented to be a box before you it's just a bit bonkers. Anyway, his dad, Fidel Castro, must have had a a say in the outcome of his life. What would have thought? Well, okay. And I was just gonna say about his
- 2:09:22Unknown: so called dad, Pierre
- 2:09:25Elliott Trudeau.
- 2:09:26The thing is
- 2:09:27he he was already on the
- 2:09:31map, you could say, publicly,
- 2:09:34when the three sons
- 2:09:35were born.
- 2:09:37You see? So
- 2:09:38I don't know. I mean, I know that, you know, things were planned far in advance, that type of thing,
- 2:09:44that this was a girl.
- 2:09:46And I mean, I remember
- 2:09:49those
- 2:09:50years when their three sons were born.
- 2:09:53And, you know, there's Sasha, Justin, and I forgot the other the other son's name. But, you know, one of them was killed. I think I might have told Eric that on Monday,
- 2:10:04but one of them was taken out. I mean, they say he died in an avalanche and ended up in a lake, and they never did retrieve his body.
- 2:10:12And there was a car accident not too long before that that he was meant to die in because that that other son was probably not just not going along with stuff and maybe was talking a little too much or whatever. I don't know. But they did take out one of those children, but they called it a a an avalanche, a ski mountaineering accident.
- 2:10:32And and his body ended up in
- 2:10:34Unknown: oh, I think it was Coconut Lake. That's right. Yeah. You mentioned that on Monday. Yeah. I've been But, maybe he went to Castro and said, or something like that. You never know.
- 2:10:45Unknown: Anyway,
- 2:10:46so there's a lot of weird and shady stuff in that family. And I do believe that that Justin Trudeau, he was groomed and probably abused as a child, probably what do they call that? Ritual abuse that does you know, they can put mind control on them
- 2:11:02so that, you know, they can trigger them with certain words to just be completely
- 2:11:06controlled.
- 2:11:07So I think that's what the case is. But as far as him
- 2:11:11having started out as a girl, I don't believe that. And it's not that I don't think that goes on in in en masse, like, a lot, like, in Hollywood characters and actors that we've been told are women or actually men or or maybe vice versa to a lesser extent. But, anyway Mhmm. I don't think that's the case with him. People call him Justine Trudeau.
- 2:11:32Somehow, I just have not been convinced of that. Obama's
- 2:11:35Unknown: husband, though. I think he's definitely a a Oh, definitely. Definitely.
- 2:11:40What were my butts about that? Yeah. My Michael there. Michael. Yeah. Michael.
- 2:11:45Mick. Mick. Yes. Mickey. It's a real pumminent. Like, what was the name pumminent. What was the name of that
- 2:11:50Unknown: comedian who died shortly after she said, oh, yeah. Everybody knows that. What was her name? Oh,
- 2:11:57Unknown: oh, that's the comedian.
- 2:11:59Unknown: Oh, I I can see it. And and she was taken out. Very shortly after that, she was gone. Joan Rivers. Yes. Joan Rivers. Thank you. Can we talk Your
- 2:12:09Unknown: memory's What's that? What's that? Where's that voice come from? God. It's very
- 2:12:13loud from across the Atlantic. Mine's Paul's here as well, Monica. You can probably tell. Hi, Paul. Hi, Oh. Hi. I'm sorry. No. I thought you're talking about my mic. It was Joan Rivers. She made an off the cuff comment to
- 2:12:28Unknown: paparazzi
- 2:12:29that were questioning her while she was
- 2:12:31walking up some stairs.
- 2:12:33And then like two weeks later, she died from
- 2:12:38complications
- 2:12:39from a procedure,
- 2:12:40a medical procedure.
- 2:12:42The complications were from the yeah.
- 2:12:46Unknown: You know what I mean. Yeah. We know. We know. You know, there's a lot of that that people die of complications from a minor procedure.
- 2:12:53Yeah. A lot of that.
- 2:12:55Unknown: It has a lot complications. Just then because a cat a cat just walked into my radio studio. Can you believe that? It did. I've got the door open because it's so warm and muggy. Yeah. So it it made me jump,
- 2:13:08and then I made the cat jump. Sorry to hijack the conversation, but there we go. Maybe the cat's protecting me. I don't know.
- 2:13:16Anyway, where were we? Joan Rivers. Did she have any cats?
- 2:13:19I don't.
- 2:13:22You're talking about memes shortly before the end of the last Somebody was. They put a very witty comment in. They were just saying, basically
- 2:13:29now we make memes about them, then we meme them to make them upset, then we make memes about them being upset. And I just thought, yeah. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. So meming is quite a a new thing. It's a great thing as well. I'm not that noob. I just wanted to make one little comment about the the memes. Like, you could call it the meme war,
- 2:13:48Unknown: which our side wins that war hands down. There's absolutely no
- 2:13:53contest there. And I think that the reason for that is that
- 2:13:57the truth is straightforward
- 2:13:59and obvious
- 2:14:01with a simple simple image and a caption, whereas
- 2:14:05lies need to be propped up by
- 2:14:08twists and turns and lies and foggy stuff and, you know, maybe more twists and turns. And and it's
- 2:14:16like, that that's what lies are, whereas truth is very straightforward. So a simple, simple image
- 2:14:22with a simple caption
- 2:14:24just captures the truth, and it it just is so obvious. That's why
- 2:14:29Unknown: we are yeah. Hands down. When we I mean, when sorry. Didn't mean to cut across. That's alright. Go ahead. I was done. Thank you. I was done. But but when I was studying architecture,
- 2:14:39we actually
- 2:14:40started graphic art.
- 2:14:42And one of the things that was told to me is to throw
- 2:14:44any meme or anything like that down on the floor,
- 2:14:48and within five seconds, you've got to work out what it's about. Uh-huh. It goes over five seconds. So, I mean, one of the greatest ones ever, even though I don't agree with it, was in the First World War with Kitchener pointing at people, and it just said, your country needs you.
- 2:15:05But I think that Dave Starbuck, the late great Dave Starbuck, came up with a fantastic meme.
- 2:15:10And it just it was just these simple words, had enough yet?
- 2:15:14Question mark.
- 2:15:16Yeah. Just so it is, had enough yet.
- 2:15:18Unknown: I think Yeah. These things are these are like little mind bombs that go off. You know, we talk about putting an idea down on the back of a fag packet. This is not a packet of homosexuals,
- 2:15:27by the way, if you're American. Fag refers to cigarettes over here. Yeah.
- 2:15:31Okay.
- 2:15:32So that's what yeah. And so there's this tradition that basically, some of come in, they get the buyer out, they rip a cigarette packet up, so use the proper thing, and they'll scribble down an idea, and apparently, you know, this is where all the best ideas come from. Not really. It's usually like, will you buy me a pint? I'm off to the loo. That's what they write on these things and stuff like that. But
- 2:15:50it's part of the culture that this is what we do, and these short impactful
- 2:15:54things
- 2:15:55are definitely needed. You know, when we over the last couple of hours, Monica, we had Justin on brilliant show,
- 2:16:01great stuff, and,
- 2:16:03I just share a lot of knowledge with him, and and he's got his own he's got a very interesting story because he's kind of been involved. He's had relations that were right in the pit of the whole thing, so that whole process. But, we've got these what appear at first, know,
- 2:16:19ideas.
- 2:16:20They're not really. I think in essence the truth is a simple smack in the face often,
- 2:16:24and we've got to find a way of getting it back to that. I've said, you know, even with these complicated ideas, we've to sell it like you're selling washing up powder on TV. Bang. Makes it white.
- 2:16:34That kind of stuff. Got it? It's and there's gonna be ways to do this. I mean blokes are not brilliant at it to start off with because we go into the research and someone's got to. You've got to really dig out those nuggets but then you go can you polish this up and make it digestible to a 14 year old yeah I think we can do that that's what that's what that's where we're at. I'd say the big problem though is is ignorance because I tried to explain to a bloke on the stall
- 2:17:00Unknown: usury.
- 2:17:01And he ended up thinking I was some sort of weird lefty
- 2:17:04because
- 2:17:05trying to explain he was going down to all the sorts of stereotypical
- 2:17:09thoughts,
- 2:17:10and it's a very difficult subject to explain to someone who doesn't understand it. The idea that you you will be a slave for life
- 2:17:19because you can never pay back the debt. It's inflating all the time. That's usually.
- 2:17:24I explained that. He just didn't get it. So I explained it a bit more. He still didn't get it. Well, if you had a loan, sure, you gotta pay it back. Yeah. I said, but it inflates.
- 2:17:33What? Yeah. And and this is the problem. You go out to anybody in the street,
- 2:17:37Unknown: they don't understand what usually is, and you trans switch word off. It's a and it puts them off. Know, you have to look at these words, and I'm just going back to Churchill. Sorry about that. I'm trying not to throw up too much, but he's right. The old words are best and the old short words better still,
- 2:17:55and it's brevity. Brevity is an art.
- 2:17:58In fact, Shakespeare said something,
- 2:18:00I don't think in this context, but I've always rewangled it as if that's a technical term. Brevity is the soul of wit,
- 2:18:07and I take that to mean being short and crisp and precise is the soul of having your wits about you, not just comedy.
- 2:18:14And I think brevity is you can make such impactful statements if they're clean, clear, and told it in a particular tone of voice. Bang. It's like a hammer blowing conversations,
- 2:18:24and often there are certain conversations that are needed. I mean, I don't know what it's like for you, Monica. Not that I'm expecting that you actually graze on this stuff, but whatever must pass for political discourse in the Canadian houses of parliament or whatever must be just sort of audio puke because that's what it is down here. It's just ridiculous. These people can't even talk straight about anything. No one's actually come out with blunt direct statements, which we are desperately in need of, I would suggest. Some sometimes the the clips that are you know, go around
- 2:18:55Unknown: virally or whatever, and you you have to to see a clip of some
- 2:19:00retarded statement that one of our
- 2:19:02esteemed members of parliament makes. I mean, it you would just think, oh my goodness. Like,
- 2:19:08Do they have even a grade one education?
- 2:19:12I shouldn't even talk about school. Yeah, they had too much schooling.
- 2:19:16But they're just
- 2:19:18completely
- 2:19:20insane sometimes with the things that go on in the house of commons.
- 2:19:25Unknown: I agree with you. I agree with you. Yeah. You know that thing
- 2:19:29Unknown: that, we've talked about it a bit, but I was talking to someone about the other day, the Dunning Kruger effect,
- 2:19:34which is just amazing. You should look it up everybody if you've never looked it up Dunning d u n n I n g kruger k r e u g e r two guys two
- 2:19:43I guess doctors of philosophy or psychology or whatever. It's a condition that you will recognize when it's basically what it is it's an individual
- 2:19:51who over inflates a sense to themself
- 2:19:55of their own ability,
- 2:19:57and if you provide criticism back to them they literally can't comprehend it. In other words they're mediocre beyond belief but they have this view that they are God's gift to something
- 2:20:06and this is it's a great problem politicians of course absolutely riddled with this a sort of ridiculously excessive level of self confidence that's just not borne out by the quality of the sentences that come out of their mouth They're just like assholes or assholes as we would say here in England. But they are they are they're just a collection of assholes. Don't you think, Eric? I think they are. I I agree. It's like what I said earlier. The my my my my rule of thumb nowadays is the more sincere they appear to be, in reality, the less sincere they are. Mhmm. I mean, Blair, Thatcher came over as being totally sincere.
- 2:20:40Unknown: She smashed this country up. Blair came across as being very sincere. People voted for him.
- 2:20:47He destroyed the country as well. So this is this sort of fake sincerity, and all these people are just actors,
- 2:20:54and they just read the script.
- 2:20:55And that's really it.
- 2:20:58Nothing more, nothing less.
- 2:21:00Unknown: Yeah. Mike Mike Mantis has written here, I'm too smart to look up Dunning Kruger, Paul,
- 2:21:08which I think is very witty. But, you know, obviously, it means he's suffering from it. Paul. Do you know he was talking about fag packets?
- 2:21:14Unknown: Well, I know somebody that
- 2:21:16was in the pub, and every time he went for
- 2:21:19the loo, when he came back, someone had drunk his drink. He got really fed up with it, so he thought of an idea. So he got a fag packet, a cigarette packet, you see,
- 2:21:27and wrote on it, I've spat in this,
- 2:21:31put that next to his drink. See, he went to the loo, and he came back, and someone had written underneath, so have I.
- 2:21:38Unknown: Very witty.
- 2:21:43Oh, you don't get comedy like this anywhere else, folks. This is what it's like around here. I've laughed at it before.
- 2:21:55Unknown: That's a good one.
- 2:21:57How's it going with the fires, Monica? I Well, you know, this is they you you just read my mind because
- 2:22:02Unknown: I'm looking at your meme, and I I did catch you saying something about that's a theme for today, something about the cities. Right? And is that you said something about Charles Dickens. Is that Charles Dickens standing over? Yeah. I I nicked that from somewhere. I go Right. You know, someone said, where do get those images from? I go, I just nick them, mate. I mean, I just go around and look for stuff. But, yeah, I was just looking for a city picture. That came up. It just happened to be about Dickens. Well, it's beautiful. Casting his eye. Yeah. It's a beautiful city picture. I like I like It is. It's great. Finding what it old like. Style
- 2:22:31Unknown: European
- 2:22:32city picture. Now you you may think, what does this have to do with fires? Because you asked me a direct question, I'm going around the roundabout way to come to that because this is something that I wanted to address
- 2:22:45when I heard you saying something about the cities being a theme.
- 2:22:49So
- 2:22:50what do you all think is going on with all these fires happening in in many of our countries? I mean, France, Spain, Portugal, Canada,
- 2:23:00where else
- 2:23:02these fires as well. And and I would I would call it, instead of calling it well, first of all, and I said this to Eric on Monday, they don't call it summer anymore. We don't have summer anymore, and they've turned this season into something really quite fright frightening that people are dreading
- 2:23:20because they call it wildfire season.
- 2:23:23And they've been doing that now for a few years. They just refer to this time of the year as wildfire
- 2:23:28season, like in the mainstream media, you know, in the Communist Broadcast Corporation,
- 2:23:34for instance, you just hear about you know, starting in about February, they talk about, oh, wildlife
- 2:23:40wildfire season is gonna start earlier this year. It's projected to start earlier and blah blah blah. Go longer and, you know, now it's extended,
- 2:23:47this wildfire season. Really, it's arson season. And there are Yeah. There is a lot of proof
- 2:23:54to indicate that these fires are
- 2:23:58desired.
- 2:23:59They and if they do start
- 2:24:02by, you know, let's say natural causes like lightning strikes, that
- 2:24:06the forests
- 2:24:08have been primed and prepped
- 2:24:10by their
- 2:24:11geoengineering
- 2:24:13aerosol spraying
- 2:24:15chemtrail, whatever you want to call this.
- 2:24:17You just have to look up in the sky and see and observe that these are not just condensation trails behind airplanes like we used to see when we were children that would then disappear
- 2:24:30within a few seconds and you'd, you know, return the the blue sky behind it. Anyway,
- 2:24:35this these forests are being prepped with these chemicals,
- 2:24:40nanoparticle
- 2:24:40chemicals,
- 2:24:41you know, aluminum, barium, strontium,
- 2:24:44glyso glyphosate
- 2:24:46desiccants to dry out the forest
- 2:24:49so that when the fires start, either by lightning or by actual drip torches,
- 2:24:54which, you know, they'll say, oh, we're just wanting to do a backburn or something like that. No. No. No. No. No. I mean, there there people have observed
- 2:25:03these folks in,
- 2:25:05you know, out in the boonie places,
- 2:25:07driving along with their drip can,
- 2:25:10starting fires,
- 2:25:12or they start neatly along a forestry
- 2:25:14road or whatever. You know, this this is just not natural fires. They are desired.
- 2:25:19Why?
- 2:25:20What does this have to do with cities? Well,
- 2:25:23they have been talking quite
- 2:25:25some for some time about,
- 2:25:27you know, their fifteen minute cities.
- 2:25:29And, of course, they package it all nice to make it sound really
- 2:25:33idealistic
- 2:25:34and perfect and and whatnot that, oh, you could just get all your services within a fifteen minute walk or whatever. No. This is all about control. They want the people off the land. Because generally speaking, the people who are on the land,
- 2:25:48independent,
- 2:25:49you know, small
- 2:25:51holding small farmer
- 2:25:54or relatively small farms. I'm not not talking about the big, huge agribusiness
- 2:25:59type of
- 2:26:00holdings. These
- 2:26:02are the independent
- 2:26:03people. These are the people who are the most,
- 2:26:06able to be self sufficient.
- 2:26:09They can feed themselves and their neighbors. They have their own water sources.
- 2:26:14All these things. Oh, this the other clue that these fires are desired and wanted for sweeping the people off. They will turn off the water supply for small towns, for instance, that are in the way of these fires, and they evacuate all the people, turn off the water. If somebody does stay behind to protect their property, they're basically called criminals or or called irresponsible,
- 2:26:35or you're endangering the lives of the everybody else and blah blah blah. And and then the they'll have their water turned off. And that the excuse will be, oh, we need to, you know, protect our water supply so that we can fight these fires and all this stuff. Well,
- 2:26:50the on the ground,
- 2:26:52actual what's happening
- 2:26:53is
- 2:26:54not
- 2:26:55one where you would gain confidence
- 2:26:58in their
- 2:27:00desire to actually put the fires out.
- 2:27:03So that's just what I wanted to say about how does this relate, the fire situation to the to the cities. And now where I am situated right now,
- 2:27:15we are presently not in any we're not in the line of fire,
- 2:27:20not this year.
- 2:27:21So
- 2:27:22this year in British Columbia, the province where I reside, it's that valley that,
- 2:27:28sort of Central BC goes straight north south. It's the Highway 97,
- 2:27:34area where there's all these small towns and, you know, small farms.
- 2:27:39Beautiful, beautiful valley.
- 2:27:41Clinton,
- 2:27:43100 mile house, 70 mile house, those areas,
- 2:27:48down to what's it called? The Litten.
- 2:27:51Litten is sort of at the southern end of it, and that burnt up what it was? A few years ago, they that that just about I think the whole town, 90% of it burnt up.
- 2:28:01But, anyway,
- 2:28:02so this is weather warfare,
- 2:28:05and I think the same thing is
- 2:28:08is going on in Europe,
- 2:28:11France,
- 2:28:12Spain,
- 2:28:13wherever the fires are raging over there. I do
- 2:28:16very much think that this has been engineered
- 2:28:20to happen.
- 2:28:21Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. So that's my take on it. Yeah. I mean, as you were talking about that, it made me think back briefly to,
- 2:28:30what happened over here several hundred years ago
- 2:28:34with the commons when they restricted access to the commons, which laid the groundwork for driving people off the land and into the cities for the industrial revolution.
- 2:28:43So
- 2:28:44that was so this is almost like in the way you would describe it, oh, yeah, because they never changed their tactics. This is a rerun,
- 2:28:52for the next of condensing people into more thoroughly governed by technology city spaces,
- 2:28:58because we have to be made safer.
- 2:29:01Well, do, but we need to be made safer from the people organizing this technocratic universe that we don't want to live in that we've that they've never asked us, then they never will of course. I'm not expected to say Paul, do you agree with this? No, I don't. Stop it now. Okay. Yeah. We'll we'll we'll stop it. I mean, know, we don't have conversations with them do we? There's that. The other thing about fire, which is slightly sort of obtuse what I'm gonna say, just off to an angle is,
- 2:29:24you know, on magazines whenever there's events, they always show you like a burning car in the street and stuff like this, you know, often or a flag burning. There's always flame.
- 2:29:33It's I think it's psychologically like, an indicator that war's coming.
- 2:29:38There's
- 2:29:39an aspect to that to show people associate rightly fire with utter destruction of things because it is literally all consuming when it gets going.
- 2:29:48And of course, they burnt down the city of London intentionally in 1666
- 2:29:52because they like their dates.
- 2:29:55Know, that was that was burnt down then because they didn't have the Internet then, and I suppose people were just getting out of the way. The and, and as Eric has remarked before, we've talked about it, the whole of the layout of the of the city was somehow ready to go. They had all these plans in play, all Masonic, of course, and the whole thing was restructured along those lines. So they were clearing the area for the imposition of that sort of mentality grid back then. Now they're going for another one. It's just re it's to keep us permanently off guard so we can't create anchors as it were in terms of our culture, our forebears, all of these sorts of things, and our natural way of life. And I guess the people out in the country are still naturally
- 2:30:34are closest to that because of what you were describing, you know, that they've got time out there to do their own thinking. Heaven forbid. Well, yes. They they are actually at the the production the basics of life production of the basics of life level.
- 2:30:50Unknown: So they are the food producers. They grow the food.
- 2:30:54They are the closest
- 2:30:57in touch with the natural world, which is life giving.
- 2:31:02Right? So in the cities, that's not the case. You know? And and then the food will come from these corporate farms. I mean,
- 2:31:10we we have heard that
- 2:31:12Bill Gates has bought up
- 2:31:14huge
- 2:31:15tracts of land
- 2:31:17in The United States.
- 2:31:18Why would Bill Gates buy up all this farmland? I mean, he's not a farmer. Right? Mhmm. So it it makes you
- 2:31:26think about that. Okay. They're they're wanting to wipe off the small farmers, get them all into the cities,
- 2:31:32make a
- 2:31:33a culture and a reality of deficiency.
- 2:31:36Always there's always a deficiency.
- 2:31:39You know, people are not getting
- 2:31:42their needs met not easily. And and so that we're always feeling like, okay. There's never enough. There's never enough. And that also
- 2:31:51kind of puts us straight into the jaws of the beast, I would say, in terms of their
- 2:31:56government.
- 2:31:57Okay. We'll take care of you now, and the people will be just
- 2:32:02they wanna drive the people to such a desperate state that the people will be, yes. Please help us. And then the people get their handouts. I mean, just think back to what happened at the when COVID was rolled out,
- 2:32:14when that was engineered.
- 2:32:17And by the way, nobody talks about it anymore, so it's just didn't even ever exist. Right? All the people that masked up and distanced themselves now, they they don't they don't even think about, you know No. It's gone down the memory hole, that one, for a lot of people. Yeah. But think what I don't know if they did this over where you live, but in Canada,
- 2:32:35the first thing coming out of
- 2:32:38Justin Trudeau's mouth, speaking of the guy we were talking about at the beginning of this hour,
- 2:32:43was, oh, money is no of no concern. We will take care of you. And they started handing out money. Like, people could apply for their I can't remember all the names of the programs. People could just get their free money every month. Like, I don't know, a thousand, $2,000 a month. They could just line up and get it.
- 2:33:00And so this creates this culture of dependency
- 2:33:04on the the government.
- 2:33:06Like, the government is gonna take care of us. Oh, I'm so glad that the government is taking care of us. I mean,
- 2:33:12that it was a huge
- 2:33:14move in the direction of, you know, communist
- 2:33:18control
- 2:33:19and having the people completely dependent on
- 2:33:23the nanny state, I guess you could call it. And Canada, I mean, here, I've grown up in Canada and we were always taught how wonderful our country is, and it's the best country in the world. And we have
- 2:33:36all all the you know, our medical
- 2:33:38needs are taken care of. Our social you know, we've got the social safety net.
- 2:33:43Boy, I sure see all these things differently now
- 2:33:45because
- 2:33:46we were
- 2:33:48set up to
- 2:33:50be just completely accepting of having a nanny state,
- 2:33:54the social welfare system
- 2:33:57Yes. The social safety net. Yeah. All these things that we thought were so wonderful because nobody will fall through the cracks. That's the language they use. Nobody falls through the cracks.
- 2:34:08Mhmm. Whereas if you didn't have all that government assistance,
- 2:34:12government control, well,
- 2:34:15your community would take care of you if you were down and out.
- 2:34:19Your family, your extended family, your your village, your community, this you know, that's how things were taken care of in the past.
- 2:34:28But they don't want that.
- 2:34:30They don't want that. And then the people have a natural desire to
- 2:34:35take care of others. That's in our
- 2:34:38race, I would say, quite strongly, this empathy, this taking care of others. And so that gets redirected
- 2:34:46because, okay, we don't have an outlet for that when the government takes care of the
- 2:34:51the down and outers and, you know, takes care of all our needs.
- 2:34:56So then
- 2:34:57when they bring in, you know, these refugees,
- 2:35:00I'll put that in big quotation marks,
- 2:35:03and people in need, well, that desire to help others
- 2:35:06now gets an outlet. It has an outlet. And these people
- 2:35:11who have been starved for being able to do that because the government takes care of the needs of their community members, they don't have to take care of each other anymore. The government is doing it now. There's other people that need us. So let's go volunteer in that, you know, refugee reception center. Let's go take care of them. And all of a sudden, you know, it gives these all these people that really have that strong, innate desire to help each other in our communities, it gets redirected
- 2:35:39to go help this actually, it's like a biological weapon.
- 2:35:44These,
- 2:35:45migrants, you know, the floodgates have opened, the borders have opened, and they're coming from other countries to replace us. That's all by design. But now our people
- 2:35:53are actually volunteering
- 2:35:55to help them, to help them out because
- 2:35:58our people have this strong, innate desire to
- 2:36:03help each other.
- 2:36:05So if that gets redirected towards
- 2:36:08an actual
- 2:36:09bioweapon,
- 2:36:10that's bad news.
- 2:36:12Unknown: Bad news. Yeah. I you're absolutely spot I mean, you're I think in a way you're kind of, I was
- 2:36:19thinking as you were talking that you're kind of showing the pathway into that condition called pathological
- 2:36:25altruism where
- 2:36:27people become so conditioned that they must be perceived to be giving all the time to such a degree
- 2:36:33that they end up sacrificing
- 2:36:35either inadvertently,
- 2:36:36probably not knowingly, but they're on habit by now,
- 2:36:40their own people on the altar of I'm good to everyone and forget to actually take care of business at home. In fact, to do such a thing is a revolutionary. Oh, you can't look after yourselves.
- 2:36:51Your job is now to be at the beck and collar of these other people because if you're not, you're evil. See, you're supposed to basically give up your entire life for people that have not managed to sort it out themselves. That's a bit harsh, I know that the reasons why they haven't, but by the same token
- 2:37:06it also
- 2:37:08breeds a mentality where people go or operate as if there's no limits
- 2:37:12to the amount of stuff that we can give other people and there actually is a limit to it
- 2:37:19and there has to be otherwise things lose value. We've got infinite everything all the time people just look around and go what do I do now? It's just you know, it's Yeah. Very good. Very good. So I would extend this this way, what I've just described
- 2:37:35Unknown: and what you nicely defined as this altruism
- 2:37:38or pathological altruism.
- 2:37:41We've had discussions before, right, on this
- 2:37:44broadcast
- 2:37:45about feminism
- 2:37:47and women
- 2:37:48and the same
- 2:37:50thing. Let's just extend what I just said to Yeah. Women because women's natural role is a nurturing role, but that in in by nature
- 2:38:01should be directed at her own children, her own family. Right? Her own Yes. Home and household.
- 2:38:09Whereas
- 2:38:10through the all the, you know, the things that have come through feminism,
- 2:38:15get get you all working and get get you all out there, you know, to income families and and
- 2:38:22put the children into daycare, blah blah blah, all that stuff. Okay. So the women's natural
- 2:38:28nurturing instincts have now been turned outwards, and once again,
- 2:38:34it turns into a weapon of self destruction.
- 2:38:38Unknown: It does. Same method.
- 2:38:40Yeah. And it's very difficult to stop because the people feel very virtuous understandably,
- 2:38:45I guess, from the context that they've given themselves.
- 2:38:48Look at me helping everybody. You oppose this. You're evil. And it and this split
- 2:38:54us again. You know, I guess this is another aspect of this communist
- 2:38:58manifesto thing to destroy the family. Yes. It takes place in very many subtle ways.
- 2:39:03You know, the shows that we did do, and we're gonna do more, and we're obviously touching upon it now, but this whole thing about destroying the complementary
- 2:39:12nature between men and women and replacing it with a slightly, to start off with, competitive thing, which is allowed to get amplified and now run riot,
- 2:39:20is part of the destruction of the whole process. People have been moved to a default position, which almost like guarantees our ruin because that's what it's bringing about. Yeah. Yes. Indeed. You know, you're absolutely right. This slight competition
- 2:39:35Unknown: turn gets amplified till the to the point where it's it's toxic
- 2:39:39masculinity
- 2:39:41and
- 2:39:42that there's I mean hatred, you know, between the sexes. It's unbelievable.
- 2:39:48Unknown: How did that got any toxic masculinity,
- 2:39:50Eric? Have you got that?
- 2:39:52Unknown: Well,
- 2:39:53Unknown: I've got some ointment for it. It's gone away, so I'm alright now. We need some ointment. Yeah. Are you a toxic have you got toxic masculinity? Get this cream now. Yes. You doctor wonderful's balm for toxic masculinity.
- 2:40:06It's lovely.
- 2:40:08Unknown: I I'd like to announce now, though, that I am
- 2:40:11a man.
- 2:40:13You know, every morning, and I get these urges to dress as a man. So, you know, I thought I better mention it. You know? So happy to hear. So happy to hear that. You know? As
- 2:40:25Unknown: if I had doubts. Right? But
- 2:40:29Unknown: as for cross dressing, well, I did actually put two feet down one tras leg once and got a bit angry, but I wasn't cross. So there we go.
- 2:40:38Unknown: Cross. Angry dressing on a morning. Yeah. What's that thing about remember about men, they put their trousers on one leg at a time. This is very important to remember. We do things procedurally.
- 2:40:49Yes. I sometimes do get cross when I'm dressing cross on a morning yes anyway never mind that's another tale but yes one sometimes can lose one's temper with one's clothes when they're not where you left them last night.
- 2:41:02Where are they? Where have my trousers gone? You know, that kind of stuff. Oh my goodness.
- 2:41:08Unknown: I'm sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Problem. You know, I wanna I don't want the hour to end without me alerting people to
- 2:41:15my brother's new location, and I've got that on on my website because he was moved
- 2:41:21from one
- 2:41:23prison to another prison.
- 2:41:26So he is still in prison in Germany. And if you would like to write him a a cheery
- 2:41:32card,
- 2:41:34you know, or note
- 2:41:35of encouragement,
- 2:41:37I've got his
- 2:41:39new address,
- 2:41:40which is also an old address from times before because he has been there before. It's in the Stadelheim
- 2:41:46Prison in Munich
- 2:41:47that he now resides because he's back just simply as a prisoner on remand
- 2:41:54awaiting
- 2:41:55trial
- 2:41:56for new charges.
- 2:41:58Whereas
- 2:42:00the prison where he last was for the better part of a year,
- 2:42:04it's
- 2:42:05much better conditions in that prison. And he actually had a prison job. He was sewing. He was a tailor and,
- 2:42:12you know, had a lot more
- 2:42:15sort of, quote unquote, freedoms as
- 2:42:18much as that can go
- 2:42:20when you're in prison. But still, he was actually serving a sentence there, and that's why they had him there. But that prison does not
- 2:42:28hold
- 2:42:28people just on remand.
- 2:42:30So he's been shipped back to this place. I find it really ironical that when you're on remand, have worse conditions
- 2:42:36than when you're serving a sentence. Because when you're on remand, it means theoretically you're innocent
- 2:42:40until proven guilty. So the old adage goes.
- 2:42:45However,
- 2:42:46in reality,
- 2:42:47it is not so.
- 2:42:49You're
- 2:42:50guilty
- 2:42:51until,
- 2:42:52you know, they have a show trial to
- 2:42:55quote, unquote, prove you guilty or declare declare you guilty
- 2:42:59of a thought crime. I just wanna put that out there. It's, you know, these thought and speech crime. How do we find the full address? Is that on your site? Yes.
- 2:43:09I'll see both of the sites where you can find his full address. There's freespeechmonica.com,
- 2:43:15and you spell my name with a k. So freespeechmonica.com.
- 2:43:19And the other one
- 2:43:21is truthandjusticeforgermans.com.
- 2:43:26So those words all strung together,
- 2:43:29one long word, truthandjusticeforgermans.com.
- 2:43:34And I like the name of that website because there's a lot that is said right in that name
- 2:43:42of the truthandjusticefor
- 2:43:44German society, but drop the word societyinad.com.
- 2:43:48So, anyway, that both of those sites, you will find my brother Alfred
- 2:43:53Schafer's
- 2:43:54mailing address.
- 2:43:55And on the freespeechmonica.com
- 2:43:57site, you can browse for some articles there that talking about his case and also about my recent,
- 2:44:05the recent stuff about my father. I think we talked about that last time. I'm not sure if we did or not, but now my father has become a victim of the war that we find ourselves in. Oh. Although posthumously posthumously,
- 2:44:20they but, you know, I mean, after being so livid for a week or so that you could peel me off the ceiling, I came right back down to earth and said, well,
- 2:44:29actually,
- 2:44:30in this inverted world where good is bad and bad is good, ah, they've just basically said that doctor Otto Schafer, my father, was a very good man indeed.
- 2:44:42But he has been slandered and vilified in
- 2:44:46on our Communist Broadcast Corporation.
- 2:44:49And yeah, so that's a whole another story.
- 2:44:52But you could find stuff about that on my website, thefreespeechmonica.com.
- 2:44:57I welcome people's comments.
- 2:44:59If you have any comments or questions there, that would be great. If you have any questions now, you want me to elaborate, I certainly will. But anyway, I just wanted to mention those things, Paul.
- 2:45:10Unknown: Thanks. Yeah. No. How how has he been in jail total now?
- 2:45:14Unknown: Alfred.
- 2:45:15Okay. Well, let's see. Let's add this up. The first time was four years.
- 2:45:21The second time was six months.
- 2:45:24And then the third time was just
- 2:45:26one month. And this time, now it's
- 2:45:29coming on to the better part of a year. So
- 2:45:32five and a half just over five and a half years in total, and this is the fourth time.
- 2:45:38Unknown: So anyway What type of person, though, is a prison guard? I mean, are were the peep well, guards
- 2:45:44really dim and not able to
- 2:45:47The prison guards? Sadistic. Yeah. Are they just sadistic?
- 2:45:50Unknown: No. The prison guards I'm telling you I'll just tell you one little story, and it will tell you a lot.
- 2:45:56When he had his first the four year, the long sentence, and that was during COVID insanity
- 2:46:02times,
- 2:46:03and Alfred was resisting the mask mandate, he spent two hundred and fifty eight days in solitary confinement. That's more than a year and a half of that time.
- 2:46:13Mhmm. And then the mask mandates were dropped about
- 2:46:16ten days or two weeks before he was released.
- 2:46:19And I'm telling you, he was ever so happy
- 2:46:22in hindsight that he was not released early because what he experienced in those last few days in prison after he was let out of solitary confinement,
- 2:46:33and so he was able to mingle with the others in the prison,
- 2:46:37all of them in one voice.
- 2:46:40And I'm not talking just the prisoners. I'm talking about prisoners and staff.
- 2:46:45All of them said,
- 2:46:47Schaefer is right. Schaefer was right, and Schaefer is right. And, you know, the guards were were very, very friendly to him and said, hey, Alfred. Don't come back to prison. We need you out there.
- 2:47:00And they were all, you know, giving him his those big pats on the back. They're all of them. I mean, this was the kind of respect that he
- 2:47:08had
- 2:47:10in prison.
- 2:47:12So there you go. And they all
- 2:47:15I'll remember that how he said with a resounding echo that they said Schaeffer was right.
- 2:47:23Yep. You see? So
- 2:47:24no. The guards Well,
- 2:47:26is. Get it. And he was, and he is right now. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, this as we have discussed on, you know, your
- 2:47:34radio broadcasts and on many other,
- 2:47:37like,
- 2:47:38we are in a big epic struggle.
- 2:47:42It's a spiritual struggle. It's a struggle between good and evil. And this is there's a war taking place. And I'm not just talking about the hot wars that are going on in places where there are bombs dropping. I'm talking about
- 2:47:54the
- 2:47:55war of it's like psychological warfare being conducted on our people so that our people will go along with stuff, roll up their sleeves when they're told to, you know, to get the little little grab or or do whatever else to put on the mask, stay apart, da da da, all these things
- 2:48:13that so many people have fallen for that because they basically are under mind control from all the deceptions, all the lies. And we have basically a trusting nature. So if we have not had occasion to really get get ourselves jolted awake
- 2:48:31or just you know, we we just trust that the oh, well, they would tell us if there's something amiss. It's the same thing with the chemtrails. You know, you why is it that some people cannot see them even if they're right in front of our eyes? And it's because they don't talk about it in the mainstream
- 2:48:46media. They don't talk about it on the radio. So if they're not talking about it, then it does not exist in many people's minds.
- 2:48:53You see? So
- 2:48:55it's mind control. It's psychological warfare.
- 2:48:59And then, of course, they turn it into real warfare with poisons
- 2:49:02and open borders
- 2:49:05and
- 2:49:06weather warfare and and and and and. Right? We we there's many things that they are using now. So but with the the aspect of the psychological warfare, that is what has set the groundwork for this for them to enable them to do these things to us. Right?
- 2:49:23Unknown: Mhmm. It's quite a rant I was I just was on. Right? You're allowed to do that. It's good. We like it. It feels good. Yes. It does. It sounds good as well. You should get stuck in. Absolutely.
- 2:49:36Unknown: Yeah.
- 2:49:37Unknown: Yeah.
- 2:49:38Earlier, you were mentioning the big fire of sixteen sixty six in London.
- 2:49:43And in my hand, I have this book
- 2:49:46by Robert Robert Seppier,
- 2:49:48and it's 1666,
- 2:49:50redemption through sin.
- 2:49:53That year About sabotage v and the saboteurs. Yes. Yes. The saboteurs. Yes. Saboteurs. And then after he died, Jacob Frank, and then Adam Weiss hoped, and then Lord Rothschild,
- 2:50:04and da da da da da. It goes on
- 2:50:08Yep. Into the present. It seems that now it's really
- 2:50:12becoming ubiquitous that the the greater the sin, the better. Right? I mean, in their
- 2:50:17in their eyes, those who are dealing with think I think the idea,
- 2:50:21Unknown: more than an idea, that people have been gradually inducted into a satanic condition is true.
- 2:50:28Unknown: Yes. I mean, right to the reversal of the sexes. Right? I mean, the reversal of life. Every single thing is up for abuse, humiliation.
- 2:50:36Unknown: They, they're really into humiliating,
- 2:50:39us, their enemy,
- 2:50:42which they designated that way. Of course, we go, oh, no. It couldn't really be that bad. Well, you know, maybe we used to say that when we were very, very young, but we were people who early on realized that that wasn't the truth.
- 2:50:52We're not bad or anything like that, and, and that there really is, you know, and I'm using the word satanic, I think, the correct way, which is as an adversary.
- 2:51:00A shaytan is an adversary.
- 2:51:03And, of course, Satan has come to sort of anthropomorphically,
- 2:51:07is that the right word? Yes. Symbolize this, you know, and,
- 2:51:11and it carries like posters. It's like a meme. The devil's going to get you. Well, not as some sort of two legged thing, but in terms of this mind conditioning that takes place. And I think, you I do think there is a spiritual component to this that that there there are demons, and there's there's there are Yes.
- 2:51:31Unknown: You know, I do think it takes a a more real
- 2:51:37aspect than
- 2:51:38Unknown: what you've just described, I think. I don't know. No. I think it does as well. I just I mean, it comes with all of these things, they can be described in so many different ways. You can spin it or sort of apply it to whatever situation you are. I mean, certain people, you couldn't say that to it or you could, but it probably won't be too effective.
- 2:51:55I I just, you know you just see in aspects of every everything nothing works the way we instinctively know it could and ought to work
- 2:52:04in terms of decency
- 2:52:06and you see all these people in supposedly high positions of power going along with it So, you know, and then people go to those people in power that they perceive to be in power and ask them to fix the problem without realizing that they are the problem. They're the ones who are in or they've certainly signed up for the other side. Yes. You know, they've gone over to the dark side to use Star Wars. Why not? I mean, it's an apt description,
- 2:52:29and and this is and this is nothing new as well. So that, you know, we fight spiritual wickedness in high places. We do.
- 2:52:36We do, and it manifests in all these terrible symptoms that we see around us, and it's use more than useful. One needs to know that there's something at the pit of this that drives it,
- 2:52:47that keeps all its acolytes or proselytes in line because that's really what they are.
- 2:52:52And they you know,
- 2:52:54how forgiving do you get? Well, these people got help. They were inducted into it. Yeah. But he's gonna blow your head off with a gun. Now what do you do? You know, do you really wanna you know? Unfortunately,
- 2:53:04they push it to that point. And I think these fire everything that's going on, I mean,
- 2:53:09the the whole so called migrant thing, the fact that nobody
- 2:53:13even the way that the media cover it is part of the problem because they're in on it knowingly or unknowingly.
- 2:53:19I suspect unknowingly. I think they're that stupid. It's more dangerous. They're literally that stupid.
- 2:53:24Let's talk about it in mild tones. Nobody
- 2:53:27is strident and calling it out for what it is. So, you know, every supposed government that we've had, and we've had tons of them now, it's like the Weimar Republic, like they used have a government every six months, didn't they, in the nineteen twenties. It's just like that here. There's nothing people don't know this, but those of us who read history do. We see exactly the same crap going on. The destruction of the culture, the subversion of morals, all of these things, it all roots back to one or a few spigot points that we're all know of, you know, the unmentionables,
- 2:53:55and, that's that's where it's emanating from. And, because
- 2:54:00people won't call it out, they can't identify the problem. If you've if your language has been hijacked or you've allowed it to be and you're not a stickler for definitions which is a simple thing for everybody to start practicing,
- 2:54:12you're gonna get swamped in your head. You can't make head and the tail of it literally which is part of the attack isn't it? We can't
- 2:54:18people can't describe the problem. If you can't describe it Yes. How can you solve it? You just made an excellent point about the language and the words.
- 2:54:27Unknown: So it is extremely important that we have clarity
- 2:54:31of the language and don't let
- 2:54:34them
- 2:54:35subvert our language and then make, oh, this and that is politically incorrect. You shouldn't call this this anymore, and you shouldn't call that that anymore because that's now politically incorrect so that they
- 2:54:47scramble our minds,
- 2:54:49make it so that people are afraid to even
- 2:54:52describe anything accurately for fear of that might be a politically incorrect way of calling this or that.
- 2:55:00And, you know, it's it's language. It's extremely important. That's yeah. That's good that you brought that up.
- 2:55:06Unknown: It is. And I think it saps people of their will to fight.
- 2:55:10They don't realize it. It's gradual process, but it saps
- 2:55:13people of that. Oh there's got to be another way. Well okay you better get a wriggle on though. Actually
- 2:55:21We need to really get a wriggle on. They're not gonna wait for us to be in a nice happy condition to deal with the situation, it's always about permanently keeping us off balance and changing things unnecessarily
- 2:55:32while selling you the changes a new bit of progress.
- 2:55:36Progress? What's that? Yeah. I mean I just don't see it. I don't know what you're talking about. I see I see the change in the form, We see particularly, don't we, the change in the technology that they're using to govern us Yeah. Indirectly and without our consent, which they just pay lip service to. And then, you know, if you want a process of redress of your grievances,
- 2:55:56they tell you that there is one, but in actuality,
- 2:55:59there isn't because that process is completely manhandled by their agents, and it takes you ten years to be heard or something. What this exhausting process by design, of course. There's no rapid judgment on things and there needs to be nice and simple, you've got a nail, you pick up a hammer, you drive it into the wood. We need it back to that, that's how we tend to operate. We want to deal with things in the here and now and get it sorted, but the whole thing has just become
- 2:56:23literally littered
- 2:56:25with obfuscation
- 2:56:26at every level, and you've got these professional liars called politicians who are happy to get paid to do their filthy job. Yeah. Well, just back to the language thing, and also it's kind of a nice segue and brings Alfred
- 2:56:38Unknown: in, and we we just have a couple of minutes left. I see that the way he talks about all these words that were, you know, that are weaponized against us or politically incorrect and that were commandeered.
- 2:56:49Don't say this. Don't say that. Don't don't use that word anymore. Well, it puts up gates in our brain. This is how Alfred describes it. Puts up little gates,
- 2:56:59puts everything into little boxes in our brain so that we can't connect the dots anymore.
- 2:57:04You see? So I think that's just a wonderful way to describe it. Putting everything into little boxes in our brain. Right?
- 2:57:11Unknown: Putting gates between thoughts and ideas and and all that. So yeah. It does. Monica, it's just been we seem to run out of time quickly for this hour has flown by. I know we started a few minutes late, but it still seems like about ten minutes.
- 2:57:24We'll we'll have you back next month, and I'll try not to fret too much in the prep thing. I'll
- 2:57:30put it in my calendar right away. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me on. It was a delight. Oh, it's great. I love we love having you on, Monica. It's fantastic. Thank you. So clear and just great to hear your voice. Free speech,monica.com,
- 2:57:43everyone, to follow-up on Monica,
- 2:57:45and truthforgermans.com.
- 2:57:47Truth and justice for Germans. Truth and justice for I've actually posted it in all the chats. So we'll be back again same time next week, 08:00.
- 2:57:55We've
- 2:57:56two ladies on next week who've been done over right royally by the law system, Melissa and
- 2:58:02Michelle.
- 2:58:03No.
- 2:58:03Michelle and Maribel.
- 2:58:05We'll see you all then next week. Bye for now, everyone.
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