Latest / Intellectual Medicine / What To Expect After Prostate Surgery: PSA, Sex & Recovery
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- 0:00Even if you've had your prostate gland removed, there's lots you
- 0:04can do. Strength, energy, mood can all
- 0:08be depleted. Urinary leakage can occur.
- 0:13Well, the first part of doing better is not accepting the
- 0:17compromise to your masculine vitality.
- 0:27Never stop fighting. Never stop fighting.
- 0:29Cancel like a man. Even if you've had your prostate
- 0:33gland removed, there's lots you can do.
- 0:36You need to be prepared for what comes next.
- 0:39What am I talking about? The prostatectomy.
- 0:42Some men choose to have their gland removed.
- 0:45This is the institutional approach to prostate cancer
- 0:49treatment. Take the gland out and you don't
- 0:52worry about cancer. Or do you?
- 0:56Well, it turns out many of you will experience a recurrence.
- 1:01You need to be prepared for the possibility that it may occur.
- 1:05So at least you know you have a framework of engaging your
- 1:09doctor so you could discuss how you want your health to be.
- 1:13Suppose you're suffering. You have the prostate gland
- 1:16removed. Erections aren't working,
- 1:19whether or not what they used to be, ejaculation not so good.
- 1:24Strength, energy, mood can all be depleted.
- 1:29Urinary leakage can occur. Well, the first part of doing
- 1:33better is not accepting the compromise to your masculine
- 1:37vitality. There are ways that these can be
- 1:40addressed safely and effectively.
- 1:44Sometimes you need to find consultative support outside
- 1:48your urologist or your oncologist.
- 1:50Not really there area of focus when it comes to the
- 1:54intellectual medicine approach to revitalization, right
- 1:57protocol approach. So if you're struggling with
- 2:01erections and most men are after the prostatectomy, don't accept
- 2:06that. Now the traditional drugs, the
- 2:08Cialis, Viagra, tadalafil, sildenafil, they don't work as
- 2:12great in this setting. Don't forget these are
- 2:16circumstances men, where it's already been a little bit of a
- 2:19struggle. Now they take out your gland.
- 2:21Entirely different ways to approach that.
- 2:25One of them is to restore erectile function.
- 2:28The oral medicines can be helpful but may not be
- 2:32sufficient. Ask your doctor about Trimix.
- 2:35It's a compounded injectable drug that goes actually into the
- 2:40penis. Sounds hideous but quite
- 2:42tolerable. It is very effective at
- 2:46generating erections. Trimix.
- 2:48TRIMIX, any doctor can order it. It's not available at your local
- 2:53pharmacy. It has to be compounded by a
- 2:55state regulated pharmacy. I met.
- 2:58Every man needs erectile function back to enjoy sexual
- 3:01activity. I had one patient, I asked him
- 3:04how his erections are doing. He said well doc, not that great
- 3:07but I have a mouth and everything's fine.
- 3:10Personal satisfaction is what we're after.
- 3:13Now how about the sex drive? A libido can be negatively
- 3:19affected. This is an amputation of other
- 3:22part of your body was removed. There are ways that could be
- 3:25restored. One of the ways we'll talk about
- 3:28is actually going on testosterone.
- 3:30We'll get to that. But another one is a peptide
- 3:34called PT-141. It can be compounded by your
- 3:40state regulated compound or do not ever, ever, ever go to the
- 3:45black market and get stuff or go to the Gray market is called and
- 3:48get stuff off the Internet. I don't care how much they say
- 3:52it is safe and it is pure, it's neither for research purposes
- 3:56only. All right, So don't be cheap.
- 3:58Get your doctor, go to a state regulated compounding pharmacy.
- 4:04PT141 is fantastic. It stimulates the part of your
- 4:07brain where sex drive, erection and climax all emanate from.
- 4:13Has no effect on hormones, no effect on cancer, none.
- 4:17So ask your doc about its side effects.
- 4:19Can be a little nausea, but not necessarily occurs if your dose
- 4:23is right. So sexual vitality, What else
- 4:26happens? They don't talk about this
- 4:27sometimes when you ejaculate, some men lose control of the
- 4:31urine. Some men lose control of the
- 4:34urine when they become aroused. The sphincter muscle can get
- 4:39weak, right? That's the, the, the valve, if
- 4:42you will, that controls urine flow.
- 4:44Now the prostate gland has been removed, so a major inhibitor of
- 4:49urine flow has been taken out. In addition, don't forget guys,
- 4:55your bladder has been squeezing against a prostate that is
- 4:58likely partially obstructing flow.
- 5:01So what happens? The muscle gets thick, big
- 5:04strong gets if you will, spastic.
- 5:08So you get an urgency. You got to weaken that muscle.
- 5:11That muscle has to be weakened. So that can happen over time.
- 5:15The prescription drugs that can relax the muscle, maybe maybe
- 5:19you don't need them. How about supplements?
- 5:22They can be really helpful, but be careful.
- 5:24There's some ingredients you do not want in your supplement.
- 5:28Three of them come right to my line.
- 5:30Copper, selenium and vitamin E Selenium and vitamin A have been
- 5:37shown in some studies to increase the risk of prostate
- 5:39cancer. Bad play, no value copper in a
- 5:44supplement, potentially neurotoxic.
- 5:48You don't want to survive prostate cancer guys to end up
- 5:51with dementia. So contemplate your supplements,
- 5:55make sure you're getting quality resources and be patient with
- 5:58them. It could take six months to have
- 6:00full effect about the other sexual energy vitality
- 6:05dysfunctions. How about testosterone therapy?
- 6:09Like, why not? There's no strong evidence.
- 6:13I should say, Let me put it this way.
- 6:15The old dogma that testosterone is like pouring gas out of fire,
- 6:21If you've ever had cancer, you can't touch it.
- 6:24You will blow up with cancer. The new research is actually
- 6:29refuting that we owe a debt of gratitude to those doctors
- 6:33who've been pioneers in the space, Doctor Abraham
- 6:36Morgentaler among them. These are guys.
- 6:38These are doctors, guys and gals that have looked at the
- 6:42evidence, found it lacking, have applied testosterone therapy in
- 6:46a very unique manner to selective patients to enhance
- 6:51vitality. You decide how you want to live.
- 6:55Nobody's going to say to you this path is risk free.
- 6:59I can share with you that there's abundant evidence that
- 7:03it will not blow up cancer. It might even be helpful.
- 7:08But we're not going to know in your lifetime or mine.
- 7:12This is generic therapy. This is clinical, intuitive
- 7:16medicine judgment based upon experience and evidence without
- 7:22proof. So you have to decide how you
- 7:25want to live. Fighting cancer like a man.
- 7:28It doesn't mean you ever quit. Hold on your vitality on every
- 7:33level energy. And what does testosterone do?
- 7:37It fuels us, it helps our brain, it helps our muscle, our bone.
- 7:41A powerful anti aging support. Just because you had your
- 7:46prostate gland removed does not mean you need to be deprived of
- 7:50its benefit for the rest of your life.
- 7:54Now suppose you go on testosterone and the cancer
- 7:57comes back. That could happen, but it may be
- 8:00coincidental to the use of testosterone and not the cause
- 8:04of it, and you can always then change therapy.
- 8:08Suppose, on the other hand, you're tired, you're weak, your
- 8:13libido's gone, a little bit sad, maybe a little depressed.
- 8:16All symptoms of testosterone deficiency in some cases.
- 8:20So you don't want testosterone because you're fair fearful
- 8:23about cancer. And then the cancer comes back
- 8:26saying, yeah, that stinks. I suffered and here I am.
- 8:31Let's talk about that cancer coming back, right?
- 8:35It can happen after the prostate gland is removed.
- 8:39Upwards of 50% of men will have a recurrence.
- 8:43Now, what does that mean? There's something the doctors
- 8:46call a biochemical recurrence. I feel great, doc.
- 8:52I feel fine. I'm urinating fine.
- 8:55I have no signs of cancer. Ah, but Mr. Jones, your PSA went
- 9:00from .2 to .4. The cancer's coming back.
- 9:03That's a biochemical occurrence. We have to castrate you.
- 9:07Androgen deprivation therapy. Yikes.
- 9:10Time out. Time out.
- 9:12Think 3 * 4 times. Ask questions.
- 9:17If I go into androgen deprivation therapy, will that
- 9:20lessen my chance of dying of prostate cancer?
- 9:23The honest answer? We don't know.
- 9:25We don't know, we don't know. But it will make you feel crappy
- 9:28and it will make the PSA go down.
- 9:30I don't think that's such a good deal, guys.
- 9:32A maybe about benefit with a certainty about harm.
- 9:37This defies intellectual consideration.
- 9:43Doctors love treating numbers. Your PSA was 2.3, now it's less
- 9:51than .1. Isn't that good?
- 9:55Or maybe not. It may give you psychological
- 9:57comfort guys, but don't hang your hat on the wrong on the
- 10:01wrong post here. The goal is not to make the
- 10:05number low. The goal is to have you live
- 10:07your best life. I mean, death waits for all of
- 10:10us, but blocking your hormones is not going to make you live
- 10:13longer. It's going to make you live more
- 10:14miserable. It might feel longer.
- 10:17I don't think it'll actually be longer.
- 10:20So a biochemical recurrence, the institutional medicine, the
- 10:25standard of care. And remember, standard of care
- 10:28does not mean it's good. It just means all the doctors
- 10:32agree to it or most this doctor doesn't.
- 10:35And other doctors that are trained in my protocol and
- 10:38certified in it are like minded. They're out there, so you're in
- 10:42the box. Your PSA went up.
- 10:45They want to castrate you just say no.
- 10:49Why? The minute you start taking
- 10:52androgen deprivation therapy, the clock is ticking.
- 10:58It's a matter of when, not if, that'll stop working.
- 11:02The cancer cells, we've come resistant to testosterone
- 11:06blockage. Initially, the PSA goes down, it
- 11:09starts coming back up again. That's called castration
- 11:13resistance, gentlemen. That's a prelude to death.
- 11:17At that point, there's nothing great out there to treat you.
- 11:21Therefore, you wait. You wait, you wait.
- 11:24You don't fire this bullet. You don't use this treatment,
- 11:27androgen deprivation, unless symptoms compel you to use it.
- 11:33You're having trouble urinating because now the prostate or
- 11:36prostate's going. In your case, better example,
- 11:39you're having bone pain and now they find that there's prostate
- 11:42cancer in your bone. That's the time to consider it.
- 11:45But wait doc, shouldn't I do it early so I don't get bone
- 11:49metastatic process? No, because it's not strong
- 11:54evidence that it'll prevent metastasis from occurring.
- 11:58Furthermore, you're going to burn up its value at a time you
- 12:02don't really need it, and if and when bone metastasis occurs, it
- 12:07may no longer be effective. Wait until you see the whites of
- 12:12their eyes before you shoot the analogy.
- 12:15Enemies coming at you. He's a mile away.
- 12:17Your M16 shoots 100 yards. You start firing now.
- 12:22By the time the enemy is in range, you got no ammo.
- 12:25So save the ammo, hold your fire.
- 12:28At what level of PSA should you consider it now?
- 12:32Maybe the PSA is not relevant to this discussion.
- 12:36I would suggest to you that you negotiate with your doc at least
- 12:41until the PSA hits 20. Better if you wait until
- 12:45symptoms occur. Gentlemen, my practice PSA hits
- 12:4860. All the docs are having kittens.
- 12:51You got to go into energy deprivation.
- 12:53You called me up, doc. I feel great.
- 12:54What do? What should I do?
- 12:56So don't do it. Let's wait.
- 12:58A couple years later, PSA is now 80.
- 13:01Feels great. A few years later, PSA is 160 at
- 13:05that .4 years after it initially started to climb.
- 13:10Four years of feeling great, four years of no symptoms.
- 13:14He started his therapy. That's four years of preserved
- 13:18benefit of the therapy itself. When you start androgen
- 13:22deprivation, maybe 2 years, maybe 3, it's going to stop
- 13:26working. So go slowly down that path.
- 13:30Vital Energy in Trimix for injections testosterone.
- 13:36Yes, it can be done. You may need to seek out a
- 13:39provider who is sophisticated regarding androgen therapy,
- 13:44regarding its use in the setting of someone who has a history of
- 13:49prostate cancer, who has a history of the gland being
- 13:52removed. Many urologists would not be
- 13:54comfortable with this approach. Some of them would be ask about
- 13:57it. You, my friend, you must be the
- 14:00one that asserts your value. Doctor, I want my full vitality.
- 14:06I may or may not live longer, but I want full vitality.
- 14:09I'm willing to accept the unknown.
- 14:13Whether or not this will actually aggravate the cancer, I
- 14:16don't believe it will. Many doctors that study the same
- 14:19material. I do concur with that opinion,
- 14:23but it's uncertain. You have to make the call.
- 14:28Here's another thing you must do.
- 14:29Get your heart checked thoroughly.
- 14:32Androgen deprivation, if you're going to do it, increases your
- 14:35risk of heart attacks, Cardiac events from the American Heart
- 14:39Association, right? This has been documented.
- 14:41Guys. Get a calcium score.
- 14:44Make sure you're working with a good independent minded
- 14:49functional family practice doctor, preferably a board
- 14:52certified osteopathic like me, a good doc, good nurse
- 14:56practitioner, somebody that is going to be proactive and help
- 15:00protect your heart so that you don't die of a heart attack.
- 15:03That's no way to cure cancer. Things you can do, maintain
- 15:08vitality. You have to decide that you want
- 15:12to pursue that. You have to initiate the
- 15:14conversation. Some of the things you're
- 15:17suffering, some of them you suffer in silence.
- 15:20You may presume nothing can be done.
- 15:23I'm just glad to be alive, right?
- 15:26You can choose that path or you can push back.
- 15:30Look, what can I do? What's the next level?
- 15:33Get some consultative input. If there's a Intellectual
- 15:37Medicine Pedrity Protocol certified doc in your
- 15:40neighborhood, knock on their door.
- 15:43Nurse practitioners or docs, find out what's there for you.
- 15:48If I cancel like a man, hold on your vitality.
- 15:50Hey, we only live once. We might as well keep our boots
- 15:54on, stand upright and feel vital.
- 15:57No matter if the glen's been removed or not, Be prepared for
- 16:02the biochemical recurrence fear factor.
- 16:07Do not let your brain get hooked on chasing Psas.
- 16:12Gentlemen. In my practice PSA is 16, MRI
- 16:18done a year ago, Pyrides of four a year later.
- 16:23His PSA is 16 is MRI, no change a year later.
- 16:30That is success, that is stability.
- 16:34He feels great. You don't knock that number down
- 16:38just because it's uncomfortable. It's a little bit high.
- 16:42You base it on how you feel symptoms.
- 16:44Symptoms drive the train in my book, not the number.
- 16:47So don't number chase. Get your heart checked.
- 16:50There are ways to restore and maintain erectile function.
- 16:54Testosterone makes muscle strong, including the sphincter
- 16:59muscle that controls urine flow. It could in fact help with
- 17:06urinary incontinence as well. Well guys, that's all I got for
- 17:10today. Thanks for being part of this
- 17:11podcast. Please leave comments.
- 17:14We love your feedback. You can help other men by
- 17:17sharing your story. You know you don't have to
- 17:20suffer in silence. Some of the things you're
- 17:21experiencing don't necessarily come to your mind as a
- 17:26consequence of what you've been through.
- 17:29But when shared, we can get collected information.
- 17:32Our clinical intuition grows. Well, thanks a lot guys.
- 17:35We'll talk to you next time at this podcast.
- 17:38Bye.