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Speaker 2: of the Sean O'Connell show. So yesterday, linebackers and defensive
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Speaker 2: ends at the NFL scouting combine, and as anticipated, there
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Speaker 2: were some freakazoid performances. Sonny Styles, linebacker for Ohio State,
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Speaker 2: is and they eventually, when the government says Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: has promised, when they eventually opened the UFO files, we're
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Speaker 2: gonna be able to directly chase trace Sunny Styles back
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Speaker 2: to those UFO files.
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Speaker 3: This man is not of earth. Six', five.
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Speaker 2: Two hundred and forty five. Pounds he ran a four four,
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Speaker 2: Six he's got long, arms big, hands forty three and
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Speaker 2: a half inch vertical jump eleven to two in the broad,
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Speaker 2: jump actually a mere mortal time in the twenty yard.
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Speaker 2: Shuttle and as far AS i can, tell no. Bench
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Speaker 2: THE nfl comp that they are giving him Is Fred.
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Speaker 3: Warner Fred, warner who more.
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Speaker 2: Years than during his active healthy, career has been the
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Speaker 2: best inside linebacker in THE. Nfl that's who they're saying
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Speaker 2: This Sunny styles cat is going to. BE i saw
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Speaker 2: someone giving a breakdown of his. Numbers he would be
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Speaker 2: a ten out of ten top performer for. Linebackers of,
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Speaker 2: course that's an athletic, position but it's not the athletic.
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Speaker 2: Position also for defensive, backs wide, receivers and running. Backs
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Speaker 2: those are the elite athletes of THE, nfl and his
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Speaker 2: athleticism score would have been a ten out of ten
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Speaker 2: in all of.
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Speaker 3: Those this man is an.
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Speaker 2: Alien maybe your FAVORITE nfl team is gonna draft him
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Speaker 2: in the top.
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Speaker 3: Ten maybe.
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Speaker 2: Not the grade given is a six point four to
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Speaker 2: two on their very convoluted, scale which means boom or bust.
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Speaker 2: Potential six point four to two means you have oh, sorry,
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Speaker 2: no that means will become a a good starter within two,
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Speaker 2: years which coincidentally is the same pre draft combine score
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Speaker 2: That Spencer fano has been. Given will become a good
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Speaker 2: starter within two. Years Caleb lomu has been given the
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Speaker 2: six point three to six point three nine, range which
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Speaker 2: is will eventually be a plus. Starter eight point, zero
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Speaker 2: by the, way is a perfect. Prospect no one has
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Speaker 2: ever been given. That seven point three to seven point
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Speaker 2: five is perennial all. Pro seven to seven point one
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Speaker 2: is A Pro bowl. Talent six point seven to six
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Speaker 2: point nine is a year one starter And Sunny styles
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Speaker 2: is given the will become a starter within two.
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Speaker 3: Years.
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Speaker 2: Now you might be tuning in on the home of
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Speaker 2: the youts have been, like why are you talking About
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Speaker 2: Ohio state linebacker turning in a ninety two athleticism score
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Speaker 2: at six five two forty five forty three and a.
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Speaker 3: Half inch vertical jump is?
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Speaker 2: Alien, well it's BECAUSE i wanted to come in today
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Speaker 2: AND i wanted to Say Lander barton ran, this did this,
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Speaker 2: bench this jump. THIS i wanted to, say, hey look
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Speaker 2: What Logan fana was able to. Do his stock is
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Speaker 2: rising after that. Performance but neither of those guys participated
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Speaker 2: in the drills. YESTERDAY i am efforting some insight onto
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Speaker 2: the reasons. Why as of, now we can only guess
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Speaker 2: both of those individuals dealt with some. Injury there WERE
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Speaker 2: i THINK i think there was a clean up surgery.
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Speaker 2: Done don't. Know and there's the, potential right if you
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Speaker 2: are a big time, prospect that you could only hurt
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Speaker 2: yourself by testing poorly at THE nfl scouting. Combine so
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Speaker 2: for big time, prospects you probably don't want to, confirm,
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Speaker 2: Right it's that what's the old. STATEMENT i don't even
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Speaker 2: know who said it better to have people think you
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Speaker 2: are a fool than to open your mouth and eliminate all.
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Speaker 2: Doubt so if a team thinks that you're under athletic
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Speaker 2: or thinks you're, slow and then you go and you
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Speaker 2: perform and you show them that you're under athletic and you're,
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Speaker 2: slow then you're you're. Screwed So i'm not saying this
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Speaker 2: is the wrong. Decision i'm just saying it's a head
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Speaker 2: scratcher for me BECAUSE i think we all project that
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Speaker 2: A Logan fano can help himself a little. BIT i
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Speaker 2: don't think athleticism Is Logan fano's. Problem as it, stands
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Speaker 2: he has not turned in any numbers for THE Nfl Scouting.
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Speaker 2: Combine his, grade by the, way is a five point
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Speaker 2: nine to seven out of eight average backup or special.
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Speaker 2: Teamer is the projection right now For Logan fano is
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Speaker 2: that as day three guy or undrafted free agent written
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Speaker 2: all over.
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Speaker 3: It it is my.
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Speaker 2: Tradition on The sean O'Connell show to always read THE Nfl,
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Speaker 2: draft THE nfl Dot com combine blurb that certain analysts put.
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Speaker 2: Together this one is Lanceser, line and here's the overview
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Speaker 2: On Logan. Fannel we'll get To Lander barton here in.
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Speaker 3: Just a second edge defender with pro size and.
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Speaker 2: Strength fano is capable of playing standing up or with
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Speaker 2: a hand. Down that's gonna be key for him because
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Speaker 2: much Like Nate, orchard who of course had a lot
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Speaker 2: more college production Than Logan. Fano THE nfl sees versatility
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Speaker 2: there and sees that as a potential good thing and
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Speaker 2: also can be used against you because you're a bit
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Speaker 2: of a.
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Speaker 3: Tweeter but.
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Speaker 2: The first sentence finishes With fano's capable of playing standing
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Speaker 2: up or with the. Handout he plays with a blend
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Speaker 2: of hurry and hearts that keeps him keyed in on the. Action,
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Speaker 2: however urgency can become, impatience which pulls him out of
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Speaker 2: position and opens him to counters and Miss he's, quick
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Speaker 2: but lacks upfield juice to challenge the. Edge his rush
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Speaker 2: plan is too predictable and overly reliant on feet over.
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Speaker 2: Hands he'll shine on special, teams has toughness to defend
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Speaker 2: a pro run, game but needs to improve as a
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Speaker 2: rusher to become a three down. Player, now there's plenty
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Speaker 2: of criticism in that, overview but it's all, stuff and
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Speaker 2: this is what's key with THE. Nfl it's all stuff
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Speaker 2: that a coach is going to look at if he performs.
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Speaker 3: Well and puts in good numbers now at a pro.
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Speaker 2: Day instead of it THE nfl scouting combine that they're gonna, say,
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Speaker 2: oh he needs more moves with his, hands all, RIGHT
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Speaker 2: i can teach people moves with their.
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Speaker 3: Hands.
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Speaker 2: Now, Look Lewis powell doesn't like seeing that evaluation because he's,
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Speaker 2: like what are you talking. ABOUT i emphasize that all the,
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Speaker 2: time active, hands unpredictable. Hands but AN nfl coach is gonna,
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Speaker 2: SAY i can teach a guy to chain his moves,
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Speaker 2: together or to have three or four reliable. Moves get
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Speaker 2: this guy to be a you, know long arm chop type.
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Speaker 2: Individual we can teach him an inside spin. Whatever but
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Speaker 2: it's all coachable. Stuff he'll shine on special teams and
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Speaker 2: has toughness to defend a pro run. Game great toughness
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Speaker 2: is something that THE. Nfl That's that's like telling a
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Speaker 2: beauty queen she's. Pretty you tell AN nfl player you've got.
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Speaker 3: Toughness you lack a lot of other, things but you're.
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Speaker 2: Tough that's. Good you walk up to someone and, say, hey,
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Speaker 2: man you got all the athleticism in.
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Speaker 3: The, world but you're. Soft that is a, curse that
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Speaker 3: is a death.
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Speaker 2: Sentence so For Logan, fano he's got kind of the
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Speaker 2: right things to put him. Together and there's gonna be
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Speaker 2: coaches that look at it and, say all, RIGHT i
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Speaker 2: think he's, athletic, though let me teach. Him they all
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Speaker 2: think they're great. Teachers whether that's true or not is
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Speaker 2: up to the player to, prove but they all think
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Speaker 2: they're great.
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Speaker 3: Teachers SO i don't hate that.
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Speaker 2: Overview and again that's from an, analyst that's not from
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Speaker 2: a scout or a. Coach but these things end up
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Speaker 2: being ACCURATE a lot of the. Time weaknesses are listed
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Speaker 2: as a, misdirection takes advantage of his. Urgency he is
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Speaker 2: easy to fake. Out, again, coachable you can teach someone
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Speaker 2: to have more disciplined. Eyes we'll need to lock in
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Speaker 2: a scheme assignment as a pro short stepping, rush lacks
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Speaker 2: vertical push to threaten the, edge fails to generate enough
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Speaker 2: bull rush momentum to roll tackles. Downhill, okay there's not
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Speaker 2: a lot of people that can ROLL nfl tackles.
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Speaker 3: Downhill just so we.
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Speaker 2: Know also suffered acl tears in twenty twenty two and
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, three and the medical is going to be
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Speaker 2: important For logan. Fuel so that's the. Blurb, AGAIN i
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Speaker 2: WISH i could tell you that's his, evaluation but, look
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Speaker 2: he just ran a four to. Five so this guy's
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Speaker 2: now all of a sudden a lot more intriguing to THE.
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Speaker 2: Nfl he's listed at six five two fifty seven with
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Speaker 2: thirty one and three eights inch arms and a handspan
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Speaker 2: of nine and three eights, inches all of which are
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Speaker 2: totally adequate to play the position in THE. Nfl, Now Lander,
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Speaker 2: Barton Lander barton was a guy we talked about this.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday what's gonna What's Lander barton's draft gonna look?
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Speaker 3: Like day?
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Speaker 2: Three probably maybe undrafted free? Agent who Knows lander six,
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Speaker 2: five two thirty three.
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Speaker 3: Lighter THAN i.
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Speaker 2: Thought if you had told me That Lander barton only
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Speaker 2: weighs two hundred and thirty three, Pounds i'd be, like
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Speaker 2: there's no way he played at two hundred and thirty three.
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Speaker 3: Pounds that seems very very light for. Me For Lander, barton.
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Speaker 2: Thirty two and a quarter inch arms and nine and
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Speaker 2: a half inch, Hands so as a stand up, Linebacker
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Speaker 2: lander is longer, armed and has slightly bigger hands Than Logan.
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Speaker 2: Fano don't know if that matters or. Not also got
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Speaker 2: a five point nine ish grade five point nine four
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Speaker 2: average backup or special. Teamer and here's his, overview done
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Speaker 2: also By. Lanceerline barton saw a slight downturn and production
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Speaker 2: and consistency in twenty twenty. Five he lacks ideal short
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Speaker 2: area quickness and agility for THE nfl, game but is
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Speaker 2: good enough for backup. Consideration he needs to play with better,
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Speaker 2: block slip and take on to make his job. Easier
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Speaker 2: barton's handful of snaps and targets as a tight end
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Speaker 2: might create some h back roster flexibility to go with
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Speaker 2: his linebacker. Label And i'm telling you that right there
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Speaker 2: is the key To Lander BARTON'S nfl future special teams
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Speaker 2: guy who they, decide you know. What he actually cannot
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Speaker 2: play linebacker reliably on most downs in THE. Nfl he
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Speaker 2: does not have the lateral change of direction necessary to
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Speaker 2: be good at that in THE. Nfl was he a
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Speaker 2: very good college, player of, course but it's a different,
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Speaker 2: game and the things that show up for him on
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Speaker 2: film in college are going to show up way way
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Speaker 2: more at AN nfl camp where everybody on your roster
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Speaker 2: and on your practice, squad and when you scrimmage against another,
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Speaker 2: team everyone on that roster is the best player on
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Speaker 2: their team in. College, Right so when we Saw Lander
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Speaker 2: barton fail to take on blocks, successfully that's going to
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Speaker 2: be a thousand times worse in THE. Nfl when we
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Speaker 2: see guys in A Kansas state uniform able to shimmy
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Speaker 2: shake their way out of A Lander barton tackle and
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Speaker 2: make him, miss that's going to be one hundred times
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Speaker 2: worse in THE. Nfl but he has something that, very
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Speaker 2: very very few people do in the human. Population he
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Speaker 2: has positional versatility that is on tape. Already If I'm
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Speaker 2: Lander barton AND i get to choose between having the you,
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Speaker 2: know THE La chargers draft me to play, linebacker or
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Speaker 2: The New England patriots to bring bring me, in and
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Speaker 2: as an undrafted free, Agent i'm getting on my knees
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Speaker 2: and praying THAT i end up with a team that
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Speaker 2: Has New Orleans, Saints Denver, Broncos New England, Patriots Seattle,
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Speaker 2: Seahawks Jacksonville. Jaguars type views on positional Versatility patriots first and,
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Speaker 2: foremost Because Mike rabel is gonna look At Lander barton
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Speaker 2: and he's going to be, Like, wow you're a big. Boy,
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Speaker 2: wow you can't play linebacker in this. League but guess
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Speaker 2: what you'd be good?
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Speaker 3: At h back.
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Speaker 2: Specialty stuff And Mike, Vrabel oh what would he know about?
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Speaker 3: That, oh he spent the career doing. That he also.
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Speaker 3: Played he also was able to play primary, linebacker which
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Speaker 3: is why it's gonna be.
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Speaker 2: Hard it's gonna be, harsh Right, lander especially two hundred
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Speaker 2: and thirty three. Pounds the tradeoff for a lot of
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Speaker 2: guys when Your landers size is all, right you can
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Speaker 2: be a little you can be a quarter of a
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Speaker 2: step slower than his ideal because you're a. Beast because
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Speaker 2: you're six five and two hundred and fifty something. Pounds six,
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Speaker 2: five two thirty three ain't helping. Anything lander can be
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Speaker 2: AN nfl, player but he's not gonna be in every down.
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Speaker 2: Linebacker he's gonna be on special. Teams and if he
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Speaker 2: ends up on one of those rosters where he ends
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Speaker 2: up with, like all, right you know what we're messing
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Speaker 2: around in, Camp give me the special red zone.
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Speaker 3: PACKAGE i need thirteen.
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Speaker 2: Personnel give me The barton, kid and let me see
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Speaker 2: what he can, do and he catches so.
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Speaker 3: Fluidly he's got very very soft.
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Speaker 2: Hands he fights through contact in routes with natural maybe
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Speaker 2: because he's the guy delivering contact in routes on the other.
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Speaker 2: Sides maybe he just it's like the safety that plays
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Speaker 2: quarterback in high school or the quarterback that played safety
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Speaker 2: in high. School maybe that's something that Helps Lander. Barton
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Speaker 2: That i'm telling you is the key to his future
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Speaker 2: in THE, nfl the positional. Versatility because he didn't, run
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Speaker 2: he didn't impress. Anyone now he might at he might
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Speaker 2: at The Utah Pro. Day and my hope is that
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Speaker 2: he does at The Utah Pro, day that he turns
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Speaker 2: in like a four five seven forty time members, like holy,
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Speaker 2: cow do you think going back to the surprising weight,
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Speaker 2: number surprisingly low weight. Number do you think that he
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Speaker 2: cut weight to be faster even though he wasn't running the,
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Speaker 2: forty to show, people, HEY i can be faster THAN
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Speaker 2: i was in. COLLEGE i dropped some pounds even though
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Speaker 2: he's not running the. Forty do you think that's part of?
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Speaker 2: It it would be a smart thing to, do, absolutely
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Speaker 2: and a lot of guys do. That what you just
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Speaker 2: you have to remember people will prepare specifically.
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Speaker 3: For the combine and nothing.
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Speaker 2: Else he was, listed by the way On utah's roster
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Speaker 2: is six, five two forty.
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Speaker 3: A little bit.
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Speaker 2: More and, honestly maybe he played a two thirty all last.
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Speaker 2: Year maybe maybe he's a guy who looks bigger than
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Speaker 2: he actually. Is he's lighter than he actually looks on
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Speaker 2: the opposite of, that but there are plenty of players
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Speaker 2: that are like that where you look at him and
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Speaker 2: they got you, know big puffy. Muscles that's not. Lander
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Speaker 2: but you know What i'm talking. About THIS i trained
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Speaker 2: with a guy whose name Was Lee. Doss shout out
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Speaker 2: to The cobra if you're anywhere out, There. Lee he
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Speaker 2: was my, height great. Nickname he was my, height big old, dreadlocks,
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Speaker 2: right and the upper body of Like James, harrison just
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Speaker 2: humongous shoulders and.
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Speaker 3: Arms big. Chest, Right James harrison was. Jacked he. Was
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Speaker 3: this dude was.
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Speaker 2: Giant now he had, long skinny, legs but just looking at,
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Speaker 2: him you'd be like that guy weighs two hundred and twenty.
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Speaker 2: Pounds he fought at one fifty. Five he walked around
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Speaker 2: at like one hundred and eighty. Pounds he was an optical.
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Speaker 2: Illusion and Maybe Lander barton is one of these guys
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Speaker 2: just the other. Way he looks like he's a lot
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Speaker 2: bigger than he actually. Is and then you, know maybe
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Speaker 2: you take the shoulder pads off and you're, like, oh
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Speaker 2: you actually have no muscles in his narrow. Shoulders BUT
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Speaker 2: i don't think that's the. Case we've seen him. SHIRTLESS
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Speaker 2: i just so you're probably, Right. James he probably, realized,
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Speaker 2: like you know what the best thing to do to
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Speaker 2: improve your change of direction speed and even your straight line.
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Speaker 2: Speed you take a little you make yourself a little more,
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Speaker 2: Nimble you take a little weight, off you jump rope
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Speaker 2: a little bit. More and maybe that's why he got
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Speaker 2: down a little. Bit maybe he was two hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty something pounds all year at The university Of. UTAH
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Speaker 2: i actually thought he was listed at more like two forty.
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Speaker 2: Five so this is perhaps more often than, not your
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Speaker 2: weight in the game program is an exaggeration to make
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Speaker 2: it seem like you're a little.
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Speaker 3: Bigger so maybe this is the accurate number For Lander.
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Speaker 2: Barton AND i just have complete wrong context, here but
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Speaker 2: the overview From lancerlane ON nfl dot, com and we
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Speaker 2: don't have much more information On lander than the fact
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Speaker 2: that he just did some interviews and got, measured and
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Speaker 2: that's what people are judging him on right. Now Pro
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Speaker 2: day is gonna be massively important for him and For Logan.
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Speaker 2: Fano we'll see If Dallen bentley and the two tackles
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Speaker 2: from The university Of UTAH i actually participate in the.
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Speaker 2: Drills But Lander barton having that hey h bac roster,
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Speaker 2: FLEXIBILITY i am clinging to that part of the sentence
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Speaker 2: as an absolute life. Raft IF i Am lander's, agent
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Speaker 2: IF i Am lander, himself AND i am talking to
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Speaker 2: every scout In indianapolis and they're going, like how come
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Speaker 2: your guy didn't? Run, oh he's just he had a
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Speaker 2: little moniscus. Cleanup he's gonna be okay At. Proda come
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Speaker 2: see him at. Prode all, Right we're gonna see him
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Speaker 2: catch passes at Pro. Day oh you want to, then,
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Speaker 2: Yes like That's i'm putting an equal, amount probably more
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Speaker 2: time into those drills If I'm Lander barton than the linebacker.
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Speaker 2: Stuff we were, Saying you were saying this like a
21:14
Speaker 2: couple weeks, ago when we were when we found out
21:16
Speaker 2: he got the invite to the. Combine you were saying
21:20
Speaker 2: the thing to watch is is he gonna do tight end?
21:24
Speaker 2: Drills And i'm glad to hear that at least THE
21:28
Speaker 2: nfl wants to see him do some tight end drills,
21:31
Speaker 2: because like you, said and that that profile suggests he
21:37
Speaker 2: left a lot to be desired as a linebacker unfortunately
21:41
Speaker 2: in the game tape at The university Of, utah but
21:44
Speaker 2: he did show this last. Year, HEY i can at
21:49
Speaker 2: least be a specialty guy at the tight end. POSITION
21:51
Speaker 2: i can catch the. BALL i can catch a ball
21:53
Speaker 2: that's thrown to. ME i CAN i can run a.
21:56
Speaker 2: ROUTE i can block for you in the run. Game so,
22:00
Speaker 2: yeah let's hope. Is let's Hope lander and his agent
22:02
Speaker 2: is his other reps are willing to do that because
22:05
Speaker 2: that could be a career changer for. Him another Guy
22:09
Speaker 2: i'm going to give you Because Jack, KELLY i, think
22:13
Speaker 2: is one of the more interesting players in this draft for.
22:16
Speaker 3: Me right.
22:16
Speaker 2: Now he is graded by THE nfl scouts as the
22:20
Speaker 2: twelfth best linebacker in this. Draft, now there are some
22:23
Speaker 2: really really good linebackers in this. Draft Jacob rodriguez From
22:27
Speaker 2: Texas tech, was you, know the best defensive player in
22:31
Speaker 2: the country this past, year and if it wasn't. Him
22:34
Speaker 2: it was the guy playing in front of, Him David,
22:36
Speaker 2: bailey who was a freak in the combine. Yesterday we'll
22:39
Speaker 2: get to. That two From Ohio. State you already talked
22:41
Speaker 2: About Sonny styles and His Harvil Reeves Arvel reese also
22:45
Speaker 2: ran in the four to four range at two hundred
22:48
Speaker 2: and forty five. Pounds those guys are not, Human. Okay,
22:52
Speaker 2: now the pride Of Kern's, Utah Jack, kelly Former Weavers state,
22:56
Speaker 2: wildcat who of course finished his career at B. Y
23:00
Speaker 2: you and, look he had some injuries that he had
23:02
Speaker 2: to play. Through six two two forty thirty one and
23:06
Speaker 2: one eights inch, arms nine and one eighths inch. Hands
23:11
Speaker 2: athleticism score and this is the surprise if You're Jack kelly.
23:17
Speaker 3: Third in the athleticism score.
23:19
Speaker 2: Again among the linebackers who tested, third and who are
23:24
Speaker 2: the ones in front of?
23:25
Speaker 3: Him do we?
23:26
Speaker 2: Know?
23:26
Speaker 3: It's, well It's Sonny styles WHO i just talked.
23:29
Speaker 2: About AND i don't know if r Bel reese because
23:33
Speaker 2: he only ran the, forty SO i don't know if
23:35
Speaker 2: he ends up getting a better ATHLET i don't think
23:37
Speaker 2: his athleticism score is in the number. Two i'll have
23:39
Speaker 2: to look up who number two. Is it might Be Jacob.
23:42
Speaker 2: Rodriguez actually it Is Jacob. Rodriguez, okay, YEAH i, mean no,
23:47
Speaker 2: shame no shame being behind those. Two that's a that's
23:51
Speaker 2: really good if those are the only two guys in
23:53
Speaker 2: front of. You So Jack kelly ran a four to
23:56
Speaker 2: five seven at two hundred and forty. Pounds his one
24:00
Speaker 2: point six y one ten yards split was among the
24:03
Speaker 2: best thirty seven inch vertical, jump.
24:08
Speaker 3: Ten to five Broad.
24:11
Speaker 2: His three cone was seven point, one and his twenty
24:13
Speaker 2: yard shutle was four point one. Nine all, Good all
24:15
Speaker 2: those are all really really good. Numbers Jack kelly turning
24:19
Speaker 2: in the third highest athleticism score, again this is just,
24:25
Speaker 2: like how did you?
24:25
Speaker 3: Test is.
24:28
Speaker 2: Fantastic they're like a average or some kind of cumulative
24:33
Speaker 2: score of all the drills you. Did it's his athleticism
24:37
Speaker 2: score was an eighty. SIX i, Gotcha, Okay so they
24:41
Speaker 2: compile it into this out of one hundred. Rating now
24:45
Speaker 2: the production score is where it gets misleading For jackson
24:50
Speaker 2: excuse me For Jack, kelly because again he was. Hurt
24:54
Speaker 2: we know if you Watch Jack kelly play, Football Jack
24:56
Speaker 2: kelly's a productive player right his entire career he was
25:00
Speaker 2: remarkably productive in multiple statistical. Areas he has acumen for
25:06
Speaker 2: the pass rush even when he's a stand up linebacker
25:09
Speaker 2: whose primary duties are not to be a pass.
25:12
Speaker 3: Rusher he was good in past coverage when he was.
25:15
Speaker 2: HEALTHY i remember the game that stands out to me
25:19
Speaker 2: is the in how he did in pass coverage was
25:22
Speaker 2: in That Texas tech. Game he had multiple times where
25:26
Speaker 2: he was targeted because he had to drop out in
25:29
Speaker 2: coverage and they basically couldn't complete a pass when he
25:34
Speaker 2: was when he was covering.
25:35
Speaker 3: Guys so that's a.
25:37
Speaker 2: Yeah he, certainly he certainly has showed that he's an
25:41
Speaker 2: all around linebacker from a pass rusher all the way
25:44
Speaker 2: to covering guys in the linebacker. Position so an incredible
25:50
Speaker 2: performance at the combine From Jack.
25:52
Speaker 3: Kelly and let me read his blurb before. You SINCE
25:58
Speaker 3: i did it for The, utes got to do for
26:00
Speaker 3: the koug as.
26:00
Speaker 2: Well two time team captain for productive seasons Between Weaver
26:04
Speaker 2: state AND, Byu kelly is a burly linebacker with adequate
26:07
Speaker 2: play speed and desired.
26:09
Speaker 3: Aggression his reaction.
26:11
Speaker 2: Time is, average but his struggles to find leverage and
26:13
Speaker 2: fit as a run defender pop up too often on.
26:15
Speaker 2: Tape he has a strong, punch but short arms can
26:17
Speaker 2: get stuck stuck to blockers who sink their hands. In
26:21
Speaker 2: he's adequate in coverage but above average as a, blitzer
26:23
Speaker 2: has some juice when he rushes off the. Edge he
26:26
Speaker 2: might need to star on special teams to find a
26:28
Speaker 2: role as an even front linebacker with third down.
26:31
Speaker 3: VALUE i feel like he's going to outperform that in THE.
26:35
Speaker 2: Nfl right, again they write these blurbs before they see the,
26:39
Speaker 2: athleticism before they see the, testing and that's going to
26:43
Speaker 2: definitely change someone's. Perception, Look Jack kelly was banged up this,
26:48
Speaker 2: year and the tape you saw Of Jack kelly in
26:52
Speaker 2: six out of the games that he played was him
26:55
Speaker 2: probably compromised enough that you.
26:59
Speaker 3: Don't want that tape in front OF nfl.
27:00
Speaker 2: Teams Right, like when he does that film study with
27:04
Speaker 2: whoever's thinking about drafting, him they're gonna be, like what happens,
27:07
Speaker 2: here and he's gonna have to make the decision to, say,
27:10
Speaker 2: Well i'm like forty two percent on this, play But
27:15
Speaker 2: i'm playing because it's.
27:18
Speaker 3: All in front of. Us we're trying to get to
27:20
Speaker 3: The big twelve.
27:21
Speaker 2: Championship we're trying to win The Big Twelve, championship we're
27:23
Speaker 2: trying to make it to the college Football.
27:25
Speaker 3: Playoff or is he just gonna, say, oh, yeah it's
27:28
Speaker 3: just a bad rep by.
27:29
Speaker 2: Me because you don't want to make an injury the
27:33
Speaker 2: excuse for every error you made on. Tape BUT i
27:36
Speaker 2: think when you're sitting down with these personnel people in THE,
27:40
Speaker 2: nfl they're gonna be able to probably tell it's, like,
27:42
Speaker 2: oh you're a little bit slow, here what's going on
27:44
Speaker 2: with that?
27:44
Speaker 3: Leg and then hopefully he has the space to like.
27:47
Speaker 2: THIS i am not just because he's A utah, guy
27:51
Speaker 2: A utah high school, player A Weaver state, guy than
27:53
Speaker 2: A byu, guy but somebody like this who's a four
27:58
Speaker 2: year starter in college who just went to The combine
28:02
Speaker 2: and surprised everybody with how athletic he. Is that's the
28:06
Speaker 2: interesting type of. Guy he's productive and he's incredibly, athletic
28:13
Speaker 2: and he was banged up quite a bit. Tough well, well,
28:19
Speaker 2: NO i mean to say, that and there's a little
28:21
Speaker 2: bit of, hey maybe he doesn't look as productive on
28:24
Speaker 2: tape from his last season in, particular he is banged
28:27
Speaker 2: up a little. Bit so you couple that with the
28:31
Speaker 2: athleticism score that he got and the, testing the results
28:35
Speaker 2: he got in testing at The, combine and that MAKE
28:37
Speaker 2: i would think that that would make a lot of
28:39
Speaker 2: scouts in front office people perk up and, go, oh
28:43
Speaker 2: you know, What maybe he is more than what we
28:46
Speaker 2: saw on. Tape maybe maybe those injuries did hamper him
28:50
Speaker 2: a lot more than we than we realized they, did
28:52
Speaker 2: which is obviously the. Case trying to find His, uh
28:59
Speaker 2: there's NO nfl comp for. Him CURRENT nfl complisted on his.
29:03
Speaker 2: PROFILE i, mean how about this painful. Weakness by the,
29:06
Speaker 2: way if you're a B yu, fan if You're Jack
29:08
Speaker 2: kelly and you have to read, This, yeah listed on his.
29:11
Speaker 2: Weaknesses the last, one the very last bullet, point was
29:14
Speaker 2: a non factor against The Texas tech running. Game ouch
29:21
Speaker 2: as if you don't Hate Texas tech. Enough all, right
29:24
Speaker 2: we're way over time. Here we got to get To Bill.
29:26
Speaker 2: Riley he's going to join us next The voice of The.
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Speaker 3: Com Bill, Riley welcome to the show. Again how are,
29:59
Speaker 3: You sean.
30:01
Speaker 5: O'Connell i am doing. Great i'm on my way To, Tempe,
30:04
Speaker 5: arizona where it's going to be eighty eight And. Sonny
30:07
Speaker 5: So i'm doing, okay fifty And.
30:11
Speaker 2: Sonny it sounds great In february until you compare it
30:13
Speaker 2: to eighty eight And, sonny and then it's, like oh,
30:15
Speaker 2: man that sounds even.
30:17
Speaker 5: Better, well, yeah going down. Call we're heading down the
30:20
Speaker 5: home stretch for, basketball SO asu tomorrow.
30:23
Speaker 3: AFTERNOON i want to we'll get to that here in one.
30:26
Speaker 2: Second you're you're a, Man you're a proud, Patriot you're
30:29
Speaker 2: a man who's happy to be born and raised in
30:32
Speaker 2: The United states Of. America and we're still basking in
30:35
Speaker 2: the afterglow of a gold medal victory IN Usa Olympic
30:39
Speaker 2: hockey Last sunday, morning And i'm.
30:42
Speaker 3: Just kind of.
30:42
Speaker 2: Curious you, know you grew up in the sports broadcasting
30:46
Speaker 2: world where a lot of us revered that do you
30:49
Speaker 2: believe in?
30:50
Speaker 3: Miracles?
30:50
Speaker 2: Call most of us didn't get to see, that but
30:52
Speaker 2: it still was such a huge part of our awareness
30:56
Speaker 2: of you, Know United states sports and broadcasting in.
31:01
Speaker 3: General how significant was this.
31:04
Speaker 2: Moment it's not the same thing as The miracle On,
31:06
Speaker 2: ice but how significant was this moment from a long
31:10
Speaker 2: standing carryover?
31:11
Speaker 3: Effect you think FOR usa, Hockey, OH i think it's.
31:14
Speaker 5: BIG i don't think. IT i don't think it's got
31:16
Speaker 5: going to have the same overall cultural and societal impact
31:22
Speaker 5: that the Eighty miracle On ice. Did BUT i think
31:25
Speaker 5: it's huge For american. HOCKEY i think in a time
31:29
Speaker 5: where THE nhl is beginning to thrive a bit and
31:32
Speaker 5: in markets Like Salt lake where it's beginning to, GROW
31:35
Speaker 5: i think this will be a huge moment For american.
31:38
Speaker 5: Hockey it. WAS i, mean the game itself was why
31:41
Speaker 5: we love Sportshaw it's everything it. Checked ever AT i
31:44
Speaker 5: don't know that there was a box that it didn't.
31:46
Speaker 5: Check high level, play gold medal, game best in the
31:51
Speaker 5: world on the, ice going head to, head, overtime three
31:55
Speaker 5: on three, heroes, nationality all of it. Checked and of
32:00
Speaker 5: course Bringing Johnny goudreau's kids out on the ice afterwards
32:05
Speaker 5: was like the cherry on top of what was already
32:08
Speaker 5: a great moment in. Sports SO i think the moment
32:12
Speaker 5: itself and the game itself are huge if you're a hockey.
32:16
Speaker 5: Fan LIKE i, SAID i don't think it'll have the
32:18
Speaker 5: same cultural impact Because i'm, old was old enough to
32:22
Speaker 5: have watched the miracle on ice and remember Al michael,
32:25
Speaker 5: screaming do you believe in? Miracles? HELL i had to
32:27
Speaker 5: play at the beginning of my show for twenty years
32:30
Speaker 5: to open. It it's one of the greatest, moments maybe
32:33
Speaker 5: the greatest sports moment of my. Lifetime this is a great,
32:36
Speaker 5: moment AND i think it will be great for hockey
32:39
Speaker 5: and THE nhl And american. HOCKEY i just don't think
32:42
Speaker 5: it has quite the same impact that that eighty team
32:44
Speaker 5: did because those were college kids against the best team
32:49
Speaker 5: ever assembled in world hockey and they had gotten beat
32:52
Speaker 5: ten three two weeks. BEFORE i, mean there were so
32:55
Speaker 5: many other storylines to. It this was just, Great sean
32:58
Speaker 5: because of the high level of hockey that was, played
33:02
Speaker 5: and you, know The CANADA us rivalry and all that.
33:05
Speaker 5: Stuff SO i think it. WAS i think it was.
33:07
Speaker 2: Awesome, Yeah i've tried to, find, like in my own,
33:11
Speaker 2: mind some comparisons on magnitude of, it and there's no
33:15
Speaker 2: apples to apples, here, Right it's definitely not The miracle on.
33:18
Speaker 2: ICE i think maybe you could compare it to The
33:21
Speaker 2: Dream team being involved in The, olympics just because of
33:24
Speaker 2: the care, factor the attention that it. Brought and that's
33:28
Speaker 2: probably a closer analogy because these ARE.
33:30
Speaker 3: Nhl here's.
33:31
Speaker 5: One here's one for, You sean the NINETY i like
33:35
Speaker 5: The Dream team analogy BECAUSE i think it's going to
33:38
Speaker 5: have an impact the way The Dream team impacted world.
33:40
Speaker 5: Basketball but remember ninety nine when the Women's World cup
33:44
Speaker 5: team won in The United states and it caused the
33:48
Speaker 5: explosion of women's soccer and girls scocker and, participating and
33:53
Speaker 5: we saw a boom after. THAT i think this might
33:56
Speaker 5: be comparable to, that might have the same impact on
33:59
Speaker 5: youth hockey and the. Country SO i think that would
34:01
Speaker 5: be maybe a little bit more. Comparable what do you?
34:03
Speaker 3: Think, YEAH i THINK i actually really liked that.
34:05
Speaker 2: One Bill riley is our, guest Our american hockey insider
34:09
Speaker 2: here on The sean O'Connell.
34:10
Speaker 3: Show, now so let's let's.
34:12
Speaker 2: Get to the reason you're taking your trip down To
34:14
Speaker 2: Tempe Arizona utah, Basketball like you, said heading down the
34:18
Speaker 2: home stretch here and still trying to grab a couple
34:22
Speaker 2: more conference. Wins it has been incredibly tough sledding and
34:25
Speaker 2: it's been very. Inconsistent these inconsistency from game to game
34:32
Speaker 2: is one. Thing the inconsistency in GAME i think has
34:35
Speaker 2: been pretty maddening for people to see at. Times AND
34:38
Speaker 2: i know that nobody more so Than Alex. Jensen so
34:42
Speaker 2: what is the primary focus for this team in these
34:44
Speaker 2: final few.
34:45
Speaker 5: GAMES i think it's playing, Hard, SEAN i MEAN i.
34:48
Speaker 5: DO i think they've played hard for. Them keep playing,
34:51
Speaker 5: hard try to avoid those pratfalls that have gotten. You you,
34:55
Speaker 5: know they didn't rebound very well early in the, year
34:58
Speaker 5: then they fixed that a little. Bit they didn't play great.
35:01
Speaker 5: Defense they played a little bit better, defense but it's
35:04
Speaker 5: kind of now being sloppy with the basketball and. TURNOVERS i,
35:07
Speaker 5: Mean Iowa state just punished them the other. Night they
35:10
Speaker 5: committed eighteen turnovers And Iowa state at twenty points off,
35:13
Speaker 5: it and he just you can't play in The big
35:17
Speaker 5: twelve against, anybody much less team Like Iowa state and do.
35:20
Speaker 5: That SO i think the focus now, is you, know
35:23
Speaker 5: can you build a little bit of, Momentum can you
35:25
Speaker 5: figure out who are those three or four guys on
35:28
Speaker 5: that roster that you want to build around for next year's,
35:31
Speaker 5: team and just continue to drive home the, philosophy what
35:36
Speaker 5: they want to, do the culture that you're building in the,
35:38
Speaker 5: program because you, know it's not going to be a
35:41
Speaker 5: championship year this. Year it's not going to be AN
35:42
Speaker 5: ncaa tournament this year unless some sort of sporting miracle
35:46
Speaker 5: happens In Kansas city in two. Weeks SO i just
35:49
Speaker 5: think it's more building For alex and his staff and
35:53
Speaker 5: then kind of figuring do we have building blocks on this?
35:55
Speaker 5: Team you, know who are three or four guys that
35:58
Speaker 5: we can look and build around for next. Year, obviously
36:00
Speaker 5: you're like everybody in college basketball And franklin college football.
36:04
Speaker 5: Too you're bringing in a bunch of new. Faces but
36:07
Speaker 5: are there three or four guys that you look at and, Say,
36:09
Speaker 5: okay these, guys these guys could be foundational blocks for
36:13
Speaker 5: us moving into next.
36:14
Speaker 2: Year, well when we're talking about the early part of a,
36:20
Speaker 2: rebuild AND i don't disagree with anything you just said
36:24
Speaker 2: the carryover from last year's roster was a conversation we,
36:28
Speaker 2: had you, know kind of this time last. Year and
36:31
Speaker 2: as you're making those, selections is it more an, attitude
36:35
Speaker 2: a buy in a culture, standpoint or is, it, well
36:40
Speaker 2: this guy gives.
36:40
Speaker 3: Me this many points and this many rebounds in this
36:42
Speaker 3: many minutes a.
36:43
Speaker 2: Game BECAUSE i think those are two different evaluations when
36:46
Speaker 2: we're talking about laying the foundation for this program moving.
36:49
Speaker 5: Forward, WELL i don't think you can have the second
36:52
Speaker 5: one without having the first. ONE i don't care if
36:55
Speaker 5: guy comes out and scores eighteen points a. Game if
36:58
Speaker 5: he's not doing it the way you want to do,
37:00
Speaker 5: it you can't have that in your. PROGRAM i think
37:03
Speaker 5: you have to have the buy in. First you have
37:06
Speaker 5: to have three or four guys that you can. See
37:08
Speaker 5: maybe they're only guys scoring five or six points AND
37:11
Speaker 5: i grabbing a couple of, Rebounds but if you see
37:13
Speaker 5: the potential in those guys and they've bought into your,
37:16
Speaker 5: program those are the guys you want to bring. Back
37:19
Speaker 5: the best case scenarios having the buy in and having
37:22
Speaker 5: the guy that scored eighteen to twenty points a. Game
37:24
Speaker 5: BUT i think the cultural and philosophical buy in is
37:28
Speaker 5: the most important now because if you just have guys
37:31
Speaker 5: that you, know you can find guys that could go
37:33
Speaker 5: out and score your, points but if they're not playing
37:35
Speaker 5: the way you want to, play then it's not going
37:37
Speaker 5: to do any good moving.
37:38
Speaker 2: Forward THE nfl Scouting combine is going on right, now
37:43
Speaker 2: The Underwear, olympics AS i affectually refer to, them as
37:47
Speaker 2: everyone is broadcasting From indianapolis and we're watching and evaluating
37:51
Speaker 2: and seeing what measurements are out. There, Logan fano And
37:55
Speaker 2: Lander barton were in the group that went. Yesterday they
37:59
Speaker 2: did not participate. THERE i have no forty, TIME i
38:02
Speaker 2: have no VERTICAL i have know anything on either of these,
38:05
Speaker 2: Guys AND i don't know If i'm just inept at
38:07
Speaker 2: My google, searching or if a decision was made that you,
38:11
Speaker 2: know it would be better to reserve these things for pro.
38:14
Speaker 3: Day do you have any insight on that decision making
38:16
Speaker 3: process For lander Or? LOGAN i.
38:19
Speaker 5: DON'T i was a LITTLE i was like, YOU i
38:21
Speaker 5: was kind of SEARCHING nfl dot com for some numbers
38:23
Speaker 5: yesterday and didn't see. Any, yeah it's always interesting to.
38:28
Speaker 5: ME i can understand if you're a super high end
38:31
Speaker 5: guy and maybe you want to save it for the.
38:33
Speaker 5: Workout you. KNOW i don't know what goes into the thought.
38:36
Speaker 5: Process maybe they're dealing with a nagging injury at this
38:39
Speaker 5: point in. Time maybe it's just about getting those interviews
38:42
Speaker 5: and saving your numbers and your times for your your pro,
38:45
Speaker 5: day wherever that might happen to. Be but, YEAH i
38:49
Speaker 5: was a little surprised by that because usually when you
38:51
Speaker 5: see guys that are day two or even day three.
38:53
Speaker 5: GUYS i Think logan In lander are probably Both day three,
38:56
Speaker 5: guys you'd think that they'd want to put some stuff
38:59
Speaker 5: out there and put it on, tape but maybe not
39:03
Speaker 5: you AND.
39:03
Speaker 2: I i think last week when we talked, about you,
39:06
Speaker 2: know who could elevate their, stock we agree That.
39:10
Speaker 3: Dallan bentley can be one of those.
39:12
Speaker 2: Guys AND i saw some clips of interviews that he had,
39:14
Speaker 2: done and one of the things THAT i think he's
39:16
Speaker 2: really leaning into is the fact that he is a
39:19
Speaker 2: complete tight end in the league and in a sport
39:22
Speaker 2: now where you have kind of like two breeds of tight,
39:25
Speaker 2: End like there's your specialist that's just a big wide,
39:28
Speaker 2: receiver A dalton kincaid, type and then there's guys like
39:31
Speaker 2: him who don't really mind bulldozing and the More George kittle,
39:35
Speaker 2: types AND i think that he's calling attention to his
39:38
Speaker 2: blocking at this combine more than anything. Else AND i
39:41
Speaker 2: know that most of the drills for the tight ends
39:44
Speaker 2: favor the other portion of a tight end skill, set
39:48
Speaker 2: BUT i think it was wise for him to do,
39:50
Speaker 2: that to call attention to the fact that he's a
39:53
Speaker 2: very willing blocker and willing to play the position in
39:56
Speaker 2: a more traditional.
39:56
Speaker 5: MANNER i think the traditional tight end on coming back
40:00
Speaker 5: a little bit. MORE i, MEAN i think The Travis
40:03
Speaker 5: kelceys And Dallas goddards of the world are certainly out,
40:07
Speaker 5: there BUT i think teams that are playing multiple tight
40:11
Speaker 5: ends want to have that second tight, end that more
40:14
Speaker 5: traditional in line kind of that dual threat tight, end
40:18
Speaker 5: AND i Think dallan checks that. BOX i, mean he's
40:21
Speaker 5: not elite in his, speed but he's got good. Speed
40:24
Speaker 5: he's got he showed last year when they finally started
40:27
Speaker 5: throwing him the football that he had really good hands
40:29
Speaker 5: to AND i think the size is there as, well
40:32
Speaker 5: because we know At utah if you don't, block you're
40:34
Speaker 5: not going to get out there and. Play SO i
40:36
Speaker 5: think that that style of tight end is making a
40:39
Speaker 5: little bit more of a. Comeback not to say, that you,
40:41
Speaker 5: know the pass catching kind of hybrid tight ends going,
40:44
Speaker 5: away BECAUSE i don't think it, is BUT i think
40:47
Speaker 5: teams want to have. That you saw The rams last.
40:49
Speaker 5: Year The rams were playing thirteen personnel all day, long
40:52
Speaker 5: AND i think only one of the three tight ends
40:54
Speaker 5: was kind of that skinny pass catching. Guy they were
40:57
Speaker 5: playing with two guys that could really block and. RUN
41:00
Speaker 5: i think that's great news For.
41:01
Speaker 2: Dallen, Obviously Caleb lomu And Spencer fono are kind of
41:06
Speaker 2: the highlight guys that you toa sent to this, combine
41:10
Speaker 2: and we won't know until they make the decision on
41:13
Speaker 2: whether they're going to run and do the. TESTING i
41:16
Speaker 2: think we could confidently say both guys will probably perform
41:19
Speaker 2: pretty well in interviews and The Draft projections show will
41:24
Speaker 2: start With spencer anywhere from three overall in mock drafts
41:28
Speaker 2: to like. Fifteen AND i think For, Caleb i've seen
41:31
Speaker 2: him as high as twenty and as low as maybe like.
41:33
Speaker 2: Forty and you, know you AND i have talked about
41:36
Speaker 2: this many. Times the fit feels incredibly important for a
41:41
Speaker 2: lot of. Players is fit as big of a deal
41:44
Speaker 2: for those. Guys starting With spencer's fit as big of
41:47
Speaker 2: a deal for, him you know that he might be
41:49
Speaker 2: asked to slide over and play left tackle, instead especially
41:51
Speaker 2: if you're drafting him in the top.
41:53
Speaker 3: Ten would he be okay? There, WELL i mean he's
41:57
Speaker 3: done it.
41:57
Speaker 2: All but starting with, him how important you fit is
42:01
Speaker 2: for Wherever spencer final ends.
42:02
Speaker 5: Up, WELL i think fit's important for. EVERYTHING i don't
42:06
Speaker 5: think it's as important for elite tackles BECAUSE i just
42:10
Speaker 5: think that you, know the teams are going to know
42:13
Speaker 5: what they, have AND i Think spencer's graded high. ENOUGH
42:17
Speaker 5: i think that if you're seeing him rated as high
42:19
Speaker 5: as number three on draft, BOARDS i, THINK i think
42:23
Speaker 5: you're pretty elite at that point in, time AND i
42:25
Speaker 5: think you're going to be able to. Fit he's not
42:27
Speaker 5: going to have any personnel or personality issues anything off the.
42:32
Speaker 5: Field he hasn't had an injury. HISTORY i Think spencer
42:37
Speaker 5: is going to Be i'd be shocked to be slipped
42:38
Speaker 5: out of side of the top. TEN i think it's
42:40
Speaker 5: he in the tackle From miami are being projected as
42:43
Speaker 5: the top two. Tackles caleb's all over the. Place he's
42:46
Speaker 5: a little bit more, Raw BUT i think a team
42:49
Speaker 5: at the end of the first, round early second round
42:51
Speaker 5: that needs. GOUT i could see a guy Like, caleb
42:54
Speaker 5: even though he played left, tackle maybe starting as a right,
42:56
Speaker 5: tackle getting his feel and then maybe moving the left
42:59
Speaker 5: BECAUSE i think he's STILL i don't think he's come
43:02
Speaker 5: close to reaching his ceiling. Yet, SEAN i think with
43:04
Speaker 5: his size and his, ATHLETICISM i think he just needs
43:08
Speaker 5: a little bit more. Refining SO i think both of
43:11
Speaker 5: these guys are going to be good fits wherever they
43:13
Speaker 5: end up. BEING i don't think it's going to be left,
43:14
Speaker 5: side right. Side it's going to be a real issue
43:16
Speaker 5: for either one of those.
43:17
Speaker 2: GUYS a guy we both, Know Jeff, schwartz is h
43:21
Speaker 2: he's higher On lomo than he is On. Fano he
43:23
Speaker 2: thinks that is his pass sets are a little bit more,
43:27
Speaker 2: natural a little bit longer, armed at least according to
43:31
Speaker 2: the weathered eye Of Jeff, schwartz and he thinks that
43:33
Speaker 2: that's going to translate better in THE. Nfl so that's
43:36
Speaker 2: that's the hot take projection from a friend another friend
43:39
Speaker 2: of the. Program we'll see how it plays. Out, obviously
43:43
Speaker 2: you watched plenty Of David. Bailey this year we called
43:47
Speaker 2: You you Called games With David, bailey and we watched
43:49
Speaker 2: him Help Texas tech to a incredible. Run and yesterday
43:54
Speaker 2: at The combine he just showed what an absolute physical
43:57
Speaker 2: Freak key. IS i know he's not a, ute but
44:00
Speaker 2: someone THAT i think fans are probably watching. Closely where
44:04
Speaker 2: do you think he can go and what do you
44:06
Speaker 2: think he can do in THE?
44:06
Speaker 5: Nfl, Well i'm watching him closely because The chiefs need
44:11
Speaker 5: a rush end in the worst, way and he fits
44:14
Speaker 5: somewhere in that probably five to ten. Range you know
44:18
Speaker 5: what's interesting About bailey for, me he did not pop at.
44:21
Speaker 5: All three years At. Stanford he was a pretty, average
44:25
Speaker 5: pretty pedestrian defensive. End he was, okay but he all
44:30
Speaker 5: he did was make plays after week At Texas. Tech
44:33
Speaker 5: which makes me wonder what were they doing At stanford
44:36
Speaker 5: that he wasn't able to make? Plays you know What i'm.
44:40
Speaker 5: Saying it's just so weird to me that he AND
44:43
Speaker 5: i know they projected him, high but he just didn't
44:45
Speaker 5: do much At stanford and then all of a, sudden
44:47
Speaker 5: he is an absolute. FREAK i think he's. FANTASTIC i
44:50
Speaker 5: think IS i think he And Ruben. BAIN i Love
44:54
Speaker 5: Ruben bain as, well AND i think we both those.
44:57
Speaker 5: Guys miami's got two defensive ends that going to be
45:00
Speaker 5: first and second round, picks and so Does Texas tech
45:02
Speaker 5: Because Texas tech Is Rimelo, height WHO i think is
45:05
Speaker 5: going to end up being probably a second round pick as.
45:07
Speaker 5: Well so but To, BAILEY i THINK i would be
45:11
Speaker 5: shocked if he fell out of the top Ten seawan
45:13
Speaker 5: and if he's at number nine In Kansas city's at number,
45:16
Speaker 5: NINE i would love to see The chiefs grab him
45:19
Speaker 5: at number.
45:19
Speaker 2: Nine, well we were talking about fit and going back
45:21
Speaker 2: to what you're saying About, STANFORD i think that part
45:24
Speaker 2: of his problem At stanford was he was clearly the
45:28
Speaker 2: best defensive player that that team, had and they didn't
45:31
Speaker 2: have enough threats so you could send two people out
45:35
Speaker 2: him every single time At. Stanford obviously he got better
45:38
Speaker 2: At Texas tech as, well BUT i think that part
45:41
Speaker 2: of the problem Was stanford has fallen so far from
45:44
Speaker 2: grace that you can now account for him so aggressively
45:47
Speaker 2: in your blocking. Scheme that he was limited somewhat by
45:51
Speaker 2: the talent around, him or lack of talent around him
45:53
Speaker 2: is a better way to say.
45:54
Speaker 6: That do you have a?
45:55
Speaker 5: Player BECAUSE i know you AND i are both DRAFT
45:58
Speaker 5: i love the. DRAFT i MEAN i JUST i dig
46:00
Speaker 5: into the draft guides THAT i. WATCH i JUST i
46:03
Speaker 5: love it Because i'm such a college football guy. Too
46:05
Speaker 5: so you've seen all these guys. Play it's why why
46:07
Speaker 5: THE nfl draft's so much better than THE Nba, draft
46:09
Speaker 5: because you know all these, guys they've seen the play
46:11
Speaker 5: for three or four. Years is there a player that
46:14
Speaker 5: you're really curious to see where they go because they're,
46:17
Speaker 5: great but maybe they don't.
46:18
Speaker 3: Have a specific fit for.
46:20
Speaker 5: Somebody, WELL i.
46:21
Speaker 3: Don't know if he fits this. BILL i think the
46:24
Speaker 3: fit is for a lot of people decently.
46:26
Speaker 2: Obvious But i'm really curious to see Where Jack kelly
46:29
Speaker 2: goes because he is a lot more athletic than people
46:34
Speaker 2: give him credit. FOR i don't know how THE nfl
46:36
Speaker 2: is going to treat this last season where he was
46:38
Speaker 2: a little bit banged, up but he's a lot more
46:40
Speaker 2: athletic than people. Think except in this draft, especially he's
46:46
Speaker 2: up against some of the most athletic linebackers that THE
46:49
Speaker 2: nfl scouting process has ever. Seen so he might fall,
46:53
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't, know mid second, round third round because
46:57
Speaker 2: of something like that because everyone's so in with Like
47:01
Speaker 2: Rvel reese's traits And sonny styles, traits And Jacob rodriguez
47:05
Speaker 2: was a candidate For National Defensive player of The year,
47:08
Speaker 2: obviously So Jack, kelly who's an incredible, player didn't have
47:13
Speaker 2: as much of a splash senior season as maybe some
47:17
Speaker 2: of the. Scouts he was, excellent but he didn't have
47:19
Speaker 2: like the same kind of impact these other guys are.
47:21
Speaker 2: Having and you, know it all count kind of counts
47:25
Speaker 2: who are you standing next to when you're being compared
47:29
Speaker 2: in a regular. Draft he might be considered a top
47:32
Speaker 2: three linebacker in this. ONE i don't think he.
47:34
Speaker 5: Is, Yeah i've got two guys won a big twelve
47:38
Speaker 5: guy one And. No one big. Twelve got a big
47:39
Speaker 5: twelve guy for me Is Jordan. Tyson he may have
47:43
Speaker 5: the best raw individual talent of anty wide receiver in this.
47:47
Speaker 5: Draft HE i thought he was unbelievable the last two,
47:51
Speaker 5: years but he's always injured At Arizona. State but he
47:55
Speaker 5: is probably the best wide receiver from a talent. Standpoint
47:58
Speaker 5: the question is who's going to take it chance on?
48:00
Speaker 5: Him how far does he? Fall and then the other
48:03
Speaker 5: guy That i'm taking a look at Is Caleb downs
48:05
Speaker 5: From Ohio. State it's not a premium, Position, sean but
48:09
Speaker 5: everybody rates him as the first or second prospect on
48:12
Speaker 5: their draft. Board Jeremiah, love and he seemed to be
48:15
Speaker 5: everybody's home run. Hit but it's a safety and most
48:19
Speaker 5: people don't consider safety a premium. Spot so you, know
48:22
Speaker 5: are you going to grab him in the top, five
48:24
Speaker 5: in the top? Ten how far does he? Fall he
48:27
Speaker 5: feels like one of those guys that could fall to
48:29
Speaker 5: like somebody at sixteen or, seventeen and you've got A
48:32
Speaker 5: hall Of fame player for the next ten.
48:34
Speaker 2: Years it's really funny because you're not wrong when we
48:37
Speaker 2: say all. That you, know running back is no longer
48:40
Speaker 2: a premium, position and safety is not considered a premium.
48:44
Speaker 3: Position and yet when.
48:45
Speaker 2: You have a true, outlier, yep A hall of famer
48:50
Speaker 2: at those, positions it absolutely becomes a premium. Position and
48:54
Speaker 2: we can see the difference of what that does for
48:57
Speaker 2: a team and how it a. Lift that's the tide
49:01
Speaker 2: that lifts all. Boats when you have an, elite elite,
49:04
Speaker 2: safety suddenly you have one of the best defenses in
49:07
Speaker 2: The National Football. League and yet the draft capital is
49:10
Speaker 2: not deployed in that direction very.
49:12
Speaker 5: Often, Yeah but when you have In Ed, reid or
49:16
Speaker 5: you have A Troy, polamalu or you have A Kyle
49:19
Speaker 5: hamilton all of, us or you have A Derwin james
49:22
Speaker 5: all of a, Sudden holy, cow it changes the whole
49:25
Speaker 5: outlook of what your defense.
49:27
Speaker 6: Is and that's the type of.
49:29
Speaker 5: Guy at least they, Say Caleb downs is high FOOTBALL.
49:32
Speaker 5: Iq can play in the, box can play center, field
49:35
Speaker 5: can do all of those. Things he's ideally every team
49:38
Speaker 5: would love to have. Him whether are you going to
49:41
Speaker 5: take him at number, five number, six number, seven that's the.
49:45
Speaker 2: Question Mel kiper, says take him at number, two AND
49:48
Speaker 2: i don't think anyone's.
49:49
Speaker 3: Gone it's.
49:49
Speaker 5: Wild, WELL i think that's the crazy thing about the.
49:52
Speaker 5: Drafts he And Jeremiah love are probably won two, talents
49:56
Speaker 5: but nobody probably wants to take him at THOSE i,
49:59
Speaker 5: mean The raiders aren't gonna Take Jeremiah, Love they're not
50:01
Speaker 5: gonna Take they're Taking Fernando. Mendoza so it's it's always
50:05
Speaker 5: it's always that dance of my value board versus what
50:08
Speaker 5: my needs, are value versus, need value versus NEED U.
50:13
Speaker 3: B why you start spring football?
50:14
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50:17
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50:18
Speaker 5: CAMPAIGN i would probably say defensive side of the. Football you,
50:23
Speaker 5: know you lose your. Coordinator we saw how things really
50:26
Speaker 5: turned for them a couple of years ago When jay
50:28
Speaker 5: went down, there and you Meant Jack, kelly who might
50:31
Speaker 5: have been the best defensive player on the field for
50:33
Speaker 5: them all last, year and you know you lost your
50:35
Speaker 5: defensive backs coach To Naro guildford who went With Jay
50:38
Speaker 5: hill To. Michigan so what happened on the defensive side
50:43
Speaker 5: of the, Football and you, know who are your playmakers
50:46
Speaker 5: outside of L. J? Martin obviously we know there's something
50:49
Speaker 5: going on with a wide receiver away from the field
50:51
Speaker 5: who was expected to be, Back Chase roberts is. Gone
50:54
Speaker 5: SO i would say, defensively just you, know what's your,
50:57
Speaker 5: identity who's your? Player and then on offense you've got
51:01
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Speaker 3: Fm welcome to our number. Two welcome In Kevin reynolds for.
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Speaker 2: The first time on the show as the New Utah
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Speaker 2: jazz reporter from The Salt Lake.
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Speaker 3: Tribune, Kevin welcome to the. Show how are?
59:43
Speaker 6: You thanks for having me, Man, Yeah i'm.
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Speaker 3: Good how are you?
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Speaker 5: Good?
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Speaker 2: HEY i got to ask you a question that has
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Speaker 2: nothing to do with. Basketball, first do you have a middle?
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Speaker 2: Name what's your middle initial? G? G? Yeah, yeah, Okay,
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Speaker 2: kevin we can because we Called Andy Larson Andy blars
1:00:00
Speaker 2: because of His.
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Speaker 3: Twitter, okay so maybe we'll have to call You Kevin.
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Speaker 6: Greynolds, Okay, YEAH i don't know if it works as.
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Speaker 6: i'll give him, that So i'll just find my own.
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Speaker 2: Thing, yeah you're gonna you're not gonna be able to
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Speaker 2: use that bit, unfortunately Or i'm not. Well welcome to the,
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Speaker 2: show and. CONGRATULATIONS i, mean it's what a cool. Thing
1:00:26
Speaker 2: when you got the, news what was your? Reaction just
1:00:30
Speaker 2: a lot of.
1:00:30
Speaker 6: Excitement this is very new for, me you, KNOW I i,
1:00:33
Speaker 6: Know i've grown up kind of around college football in
1:00:36
Speaker 6: college basketball and covered those two sports pretty much my
1:00:40
Speaker 6: entire time as a sort WHEN i was covering, sports
1:00:43
Speaker 6: and so for, me THE nba is all, new and
1:00:45
Speaker 6: The jazz is certainly gonna be all, new and it's
1:00:48
Speaker 6: gonna be a learning. Curve But i'm excited to learn
1:00:50
Speaker 6: something different Than i've really ever been, Around So i'm
1:00:53
Speaker 6: excited for.
1:00:53
Speaker 2: That, well let's start off with a convoluted situation in
1:00:58
Speaker 2: THE nba where the league is keeping an extra close
1:01:02
Speaker 2: eye on everything that The Utah jazz, do especially since
1:01:04
Speaker 2: they have fined the five hundred thousand dollars for the
1:01:08
Speaker 2: conduct detrimental with tanking and, whatnot and Then Lowry marketin's
1:01:12
Speaker 2: injury comes under a certain amount of. Scrutiny there was
1:01:15
Speaker 2: some confusion on the way that things were reported around,
1:01:18
Speaker 2: that but he.
1:01:19
Speaker 3: Did have THE. Mri so what were the, results what's the?
1:01:22
Speaker 6: Prognosis, YEAH i, MEAN i THINK espn reported yesterday that
1:01:28
Speaker 6: the right hip impingement is going to be evaluated again
1:01:33
Speaker 6: in about two weeks and that they will kind of
1:01:36
Speaker 6: take another look at. It and talking to people around
1:01:39
Speaker 6: around The jazz and we talked to a little a
1:01:43
Speaker 6: little bit of the THE nba side of it, too
1:01:46
Speaker 6: and saying like maybe it was a little bit overblown
1:01:49
Speaker 6: in terms of how much THE nba is really looking
1:01:51
Speaker 6: into this right. Now in terms of every the standard
1:01:54
Speaker 6: protocol is for whenever somebody gets AN x ray or AN,
1:01:57
Speaker 6: mri that all every image that is taking is sent
1:02:01
Speaker 6: into the league and update into their player, profile and
1:02:05
Speaker 6: that the league can take a look at it if they,
1:02:06
Speaker 6: want can't take a look at it if they. Want
1:02:09
Speaker 6: SO i think that's kind of where my understanding is
1:02:12
Speaker 6: at at the. Moment but DEFINITELY i think probably you're
1:02:16
Speaker 6: going to have to do more refording and probably more
1:02:17
Speaker 6: stories on Going. FORWARIDA i don't.
1:02:20
Speaker 2: Know so as we continue to evaluate what This Utah
1:02:24
Speaker 2: jazz franchise is trying to do with guys like lowry
1:02:29
Speaker 2: marketing in order to protect their.
1:02:31
Speaker 3: Pick and you, know there's some legitimate.
1:02:33
Speaker 2: INJURIES i shouldn't say, some they're all legitimate, injuries but
1:02:37
Speaker 2: there's been some severe. Injuries now you've got this kind
1:02:41
Speaker 2: of gray area where your best player is going to
1:02:44
Speaker 2: exist in and where your second best player is currently.
1:02:47
Speaker 2: Existing how how much do we have to as a
1:02:51
Speaker 2: fan base dial into the strategy here and especially the
1:02:54
Speaker 2: relationship between The Utah jazz and THE, nba because you
1:02:59
Speaker 2: don't want that to get strained ahead of AN nba draft.
1:03:01
Speaker 6: Lottery, YEAH i MEAN i think for The, JAZZ i
1:03:06
Speaker 6: think it's all everybody's looking towards twenty twenty six as
1:03:10
Speaker 6: the time to really, compete AND i think it's important
1:03:12
Speaker 6: to keep those those main guys ready to go and
1:03:15
Speaker 6: healthy for the next. Year and, SO i, MEAN i
1:03:18
Speaker 6: think obviously the core of this team is going to Be,
1:03:21
Speaker 6: Lowry Jared jackson, junior you, know whoever they whether That's
1:03:25
Speaker 6: Walker kessler as a as a third, Option i'm not.
1:03:27
Speaker 6: Sure we'll find out kind of what where the contract plays.
1:03:30
Speaker 6: Out and Then heyante And Ace bailey as, well so
1:03:33
Speaker 6: and then you know if they however the end of
1:03:37
Speaker 6: the season works, out but if they can keep that
1:03:39
Speaker 6: top eight protected, pick then you add that. In but,
1:03:41
Speaker 6: YEAH i think twenty twenty six is definitely going to
1:03:43
Speaker 6: be the most important part or the most important thing
1:03:47
Speaker 6: and competing for the next couple of years When Jared
1:03:50
Speaker 6: jackson is under contract And Larry market is under contract
1:03:53
Speaker 6: kind of this this three year, window maybe four year,
1:03:56
Speaker 6: window BECAUSE i Think Jaron jackson has a player option
1:03:59
Speaker 6: right the fourth. Year so, YEAH i, mean, listen it's
1:04:02
Speaker 6: still Something i'm learning, about and SO i don't have
1:04:04
Speaker 6: all the answers right, now And i'm asking just as
1:04:06
Speaker 6: many questions as everybody else BECAUSE i need to find
1:04:10
Speaker 6: out the. ANSWERS i need to find out the answers too.
1:04:12
Speaker 2: Well as you go through this, process which player on
1:04:15
Speaker 2: This Utah jazz team is most intriguing for? You you
1:04:18
Speaker 2: got to learn all of, Them you got to know
1:04:20
Speaker 2: more about all of them than we know right. Now
1:04:22
Speaker 2: but who's the most interesting one for you right?
1:04:24
Speaker 6: Now for, me it's As bailey for, sure because obviously
1:04:28
Speaker 6: a really high draft pick out Of. Rutgers BUT i
1:04:31
Speaker 6: just think the upside is so intriguing for him because
1:04:34
Speaker 6: of you've seen flashes of his ability to really impact.
1:04:37
Speaker 6: Games twenty five points against The spurs In, january even
1:04:41
Speaker 6: even a game last, night like the first, quarter where
1:04:43
Speaker 6: you can see you can see the obvious scoring ability
1:04:46
Speaker 6: and you can just you, know obviously there's room to grow.
1:04:49
Speaker 6: Defensively obviously it doesn't happen every, night and it's not super,
1:04:52
Speaker 6: consistent and he's a nineteen year old. Guy AND i
1:04:55
Speaker 6: talked To Steve, Pichel rutgers as head coach for a
1:04:58
Speaker 6: story wrote this week and kind of just asking about
1:05:01
Speaker 6: who he thought in this. Draft, well first was the
1:05:06
Speaker 6: perceptions Around ace, correct and he and he said. No
1:05:09
Speaker 6: and then the other part is he said he thinks The,
1:05:11
Speaker 6: ace because of his, age because of his, size because
1:05:14
Speaker 6: of his scoring, ability might be the best player in this.
1:05:16
Speaker 6: Draft so obviously there's a long way to go for
1:05:19
Speaker 6: him to get, there but at the same time that
1:05:21
Speaker 6: that potential has to intrigue you and then also kind
1:05:24
Speaker 6: of seeing where that fits into the puzzle of a
1:05:27
Speaker 6: Contending jazz, team because If Ace bailey can be very
1:05:30
Speaker 6: very good for The, jazz think about how how much
1:05:33
Speaker 6: size there is on this on like a starting five
1:05:38
Speaker 6: With Jared, Jackson Larry market And Ace, Bailey Locker, kestler you,
1:05:42
Speaker 6: know THE tvd on, him but right like you can
1:05:44
Speaker 6: just imagine those four guys playing all. Together If Ace
1:05:49
Speaker 6: bailey is kind of able to put this all together
1:05:50
Speaker 6: and kind of, QUICKLY i think it's definitely an intriguing.
1:05:54
Speaker 6: Lineup what do you think THE?
1:05:56
Speaker 2: Tbd how is that? Deed where's the rimination With Walker kessler's?
1:06:02
Speaker 6: Future, yeah hard question for me to answer right, now
1:06:05
Speaker 6: just because you, Know i've not talked To walker AND
1:06:07
Speaker 6: i don't know.
1:06:08
Speaker 5: Enough, Really i'll be.
1:06:09
Speaker 6: Honest about this team right now to give you a great.
1:06:12
Speaker 6: Answer on. That but you, Know i've Read andy, Supporting
1:06:15
Speaker 6: i've read you, know The athletics, Supporting i've read everybody
1:06:18
Speaker 6: else is reporting on. IT i just don't have a
1:06:19
Speaker 6: ton new to give, you, unfortunately SO i feel kind of.
1:06:22
Speaker 6: Bad but you, know that's that's Something i'm going to
1:06:26
Speaker 6: be reporting out AND i think we're all going to
1:06:27
Speaker 6: be talking about as we go into the, summer and
1:06:30
Speaker 6: Hopefully i'll have a better answers for you then.
1:06:33
Speaker 2: In, general if they can bring that back, right we're
1:06:35
Speaker 2: talking about the three like towering people in the front,
1:06:39
Speaker 2: court and THE nba is a league that has been
1:06:43
Speaker 2: indexing further and further toward the back court in a
1:06:46
Speaker 2: lot of situations because of the three point shot and its.
1:06:49
Speaker 2: Importance so that unique look could truly be that very
1:06:54
Speaker 2: unique and something that's hard for other teams to deal.
1:06:57
Speaker 2: With uh when you look at the rest of THE,
1:06:59
Speaker 2: nba the rest of The west, especially do you think it.
1:07:02
Speaker 6: WORKS i think it definitely. Could and BECAUSE i do
1:07:08
Speaker 6: think you're, RIGHT i think it is so unique and
1:07:09
Speaker 6: we've seen so many, teams you, know From Steph curry
1:07:14
Speaker 6: on you, know just put so, much you, know emphasis
1:07:17
Speaker 6: on scoring guards AND i, Think BUT i also think
1:07:20
Speaker 6: that the weird part about, This you know how big
1:07:23
Speaker 6: this roster can, be or the frontcour can. Be if
1:07:26
Speaker 6: you Have Ace bailey out, THERE i mean you do
1:07:28
Speaker 6: actually have some scoring with the, size and SO i
1:07:32
Speaker 6: think that's what's intriguing about. This and you Have kiante
1:07:35
Speaker 6: continuing to grow and then you put him put him,
1:07:38
Speaker 6: around maybe another score and then you can still get
1:07:42
Speaker 6: the benefits of a team that can shoot and can,
1:07:44
Speaker 6: score but at the same, time just improve, defensively because
1:07:47
Speaker 6: that's another part where this TEAM i think needs to
1:07:49
Speaker 6: to get better. At obviously from where they are right
1:07:52
Speaker 6: now is on the defensive side of the ball and
1:07:55
Speaker 6: can they protect the? Rim and that's Where Jaren, JACKSON
1:07:57
Speaker 6: i think it's really. Good Walker kessler could be really
1:07:59
Speaker 6: good there and we've seen defensively he's been pretty good
1:08:03
Speaker 6: since he came into the. League and SO i think
1:08:05
Speaker 6: that that combination of If Face bailey can, Score Cante
1:08:10
Speaker 6: george we've seen him take a huge jump this, year
1:08:13
Speaker 6: and add that in with the rim, protection THEN i
1:08:16
Speaker 6: think you can get a very unique and competitive competitive lineup.
1:08:19
Speaker 2: Quickly Kevin reynolds is our guest here on The sean O'Connell,
1:08:23
Speaker 2: show newly minted jazz beat writer and reporter at The
1:08:26
Speaker 2: Salt Lake. Tribune the UPCOMING Nba draft lottery is obviously
1:08:32
Speaker 2: massively important for The Utah. Jazz last year's was as,
1:08:35
Speaker 2: well and last year it was. Disappointment you fell as
1:08:38
Speaker 2: far as you could. Fall Now Ace bailey has worked
1:08:41
Speaker 2: out quite, nicely SO i don't think people feel the
1:08:43
Speaker 2: same sort of negativity toward what the pick has become
1:08:47
Speaker 2: that they did about what the pick was when it was.
1:08:50
Speaker 2: Announced but the same possibilities are all out there with
1:08:53
Speaker 2: this upcoming draft. LOTTERY i guess the stakes are even
1:08:57
Speaker 2: higher because you don't want to lose that pick To Oklahoma.
1:08:59
Speaker 2: City but let's assume that they don't do, that and
1:09:02
Speaker 2: now we're talking about a LOADED nba draft Where Darren
1:09:07
Speaker 2: peterson has been controversial for Some camboose has been, incredible.
1:09:11
Speaker 2: Obviously Aj debonsa has a lot of local connections and
1:09:14
Speaker 2: there's a ton of hope that somehow he could fall
1:09:16
Speaker 2: into your lap for The Utah, jazz and then of
1:09:19
Speaker 2: course you could end up four or five. Again and
1:09:23
Speaker 2: if that's the, CASE i think they're still really good players.
1:09:26
Speaker 2: Available but it's gonna probably be perceived as another. Disappointment
1:09:32
Speaker 2: how how do we properly quantify or put into words
1:09:36
Speaker 2: the magnitude of this upcoming draft lottery and whether or
1:09:40
Speaker 2: not The Utah jazz can make it.
1:09:42
Speaker 6: Work, YEAH i THINK i think it's. Critical AND i
1:09:45
Speaker 6: MEAN i remember last year BECAUSE i, mean OBVIOUSLY i
1:09:48
Speaker 6: wasn't covering The jazz full, time BUT i remember talking
1:09:51
Speaker 6: to fans and we did a story on how fans
1:09:54
Speaker 6: were flying out To japan in preparation to try, of you,
1:09:58
Speaker 6: know get some good luck for The, jazz and obviously
1:10:00
Speaker 6: it doesn't work. Out and you, know now they get
1:10:03
Speaker 6: another crack at this with the draft, lottery and we
1:10:07
Speaker 6: will assuming they get a top eight. Pick like can
1:10:09
Speaker 6: that be a top four? Pick can that be a
1:10:11
Speaker 6: top three? Pick i'm not. Sure AND i do think
1:10:13
Speaker 6: a top three pick, though or even a top four
1:10:15
Speaker 6: pick would have change the trajectory of like how good
1:10:18
Speaker 6: this team can really, be because you, Know i've covered
1:10:20
Speaker 6: Aj De bonsa since he was in high school and
1:10:22
Speaker 6: since he moved down TO U Top prep In Saint,
1:10:25
Speaker 6: george AND i, mean he's a really good basketball player
1:10:28
Speaker 6: and you can see how he's been used at B
1:10:31
Speaker 6: yu and kind of how it can. Translate and one
1:10:33
Speaker 6: of the things About Kevin, YOUNG i, mean this is
1:10:35
Speaker 6: something THAT i know probably better than you know the
1:10:38
Speaker 6: whole draft or the whole you KNOW nba right, now
1:10:40
Speaker 6: but just in terms OF byu and college, basketball How
1:10:43
Speaker 6: Kevin young has USED, AJ i think translates extremely well
1:10:46
Speaker 6: to THE. Nba and we've already seen a blueprint for
1:10:49
Speaker 6: it With yegor last year going to The nets and
1:10:52
Speaker 6: kind of it immediately translating and some of the SHOOTING
1:10:55
Speaker 6: i think Also i'm not as concerned about if you're
1:10:59
Speaker 6: looking AT, aj because for me last year Covering, yegor
1:11:03
Speaker 6: it was he wasn't a great shooter last year and
1:11:05
Speaker 6: he becomes a forty three point shooter high thirties this
1:11:08
Speaker 6: year for The, nets and we saw him coming to
1:11:10
Speaker 6: The Delta center and shoot really well and kind of
1:11:13
Speaker 6: found his found his groove down the stretch of THE
1:11:16
Speaker 6: ncaa tournament because of the Way Kevin young. Coaches so WITH,
1:11:19
Speaker 6: AJ i think everything else is. There maybe the shooting
1:11:22
Speaker 6: is a little bit of a question mark right now
1:11:23
Speaker 6: in terms of three point, shooting BUT i do think
1:11:25
Speaker 6: that translates AND i think you, know he's the leading
1:11:28
Speaker 6: leading score of the. Nation so if you can get
1:11:30
Speaker 6: a player like, that if you can get a player Like,
1:11:32
Speaker 6: boozer if you can get a player Like Darren, peterson
1:11:35
Speaker 6: obviously it changes everything in terms of you get an,
1:11:37
Speaker 6: immediate immediate contributor right away and you, know we'll see
1:11:43
Speaker 6: but you, know nothing's guaranteed in the draft, lottery as
1:11:46
Speaker 6: the as The jazz stands know quite.
1:11:48
Speaker 3: Well is there a way outside of the? Draft?
1:11:52
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, MEAN i guess. Trades we saw one that
1:11:55
Speaker 2: all of us are are pretty optimistic. About but is
1:11:58
Speaker 2: there another alternative for The Utah jazz in your, mind
1:12:02
Speaker 2: just as a sports, fan to develop this roster into
1:12:06
Speaker 2: being a playoff, roster A Western conference contender because you
1:12:10
Speaker 2: have not been traditionally sought after as a free agency destination.
1:12:14
Speaker 2: Necessarily but this is a new era of ownership In
1:12:18
Speaker 2: Salt Lake city is a much different town than it
1:12:20
Speaker 2: was in the. Past so where do you stand on
1:12:23
Speaker 2: the ability to build this roster through anything besides the?
1:12:25
Speaker 3: Draft?
1:12:27
Speaker 6: YEAH i mean IF i didn't live here AND i
1:12:30
Speaker 6: wasn't familiar with The UTAH i would, have like my gut,
1:12:32
Speaker 6: reaction would have, said, yeah it's probably difficult to attract free.
1:12:35
Speaker 6: Agents but one of the things that WHEN i was
1:12:38
Speaker 6: talking TO aj and all those guys down In Saint
1:12:42
Speaker 6: george last, year two years ago at this, point but
1:12:45
Speaker 6: when they came, down one of the intriguing QUESTIONS i
1:12:49
Speaker 6: had for them and what we were talking about in
1:12:51
Speaker 6: kind of our in our meetings as a newsroom is
1:12:55
Speaker 6: does a guy like aj De bonsa coming TO byu
1:12:57
Speaker 6: AND byu PRODUCING nba talent kind of changed the trajectory
1:13:01
Speaker 6: a little bit of how free agents or just the
1:13:04
Speaker 6: familiarity With utah for free agents and high PROFILE nba draft,
1:13:07
Speaker 6: prospects because now you're seeing at the lower level at
1:13:10
Speaker 6: least you, know in COLLEGE byu And, utah like the
1:13:15
Speaker 6: state Of utah becoming a place where high level basketball players.
1:13:18
Speaker 6: Play and also you have The big twelve teams coming
1:13:21
Speaker 6: in and there's a ton OF nba guys and they're
1:13:23
Speaker 6: playing In provo And Salt, lake you, know every single.
1:13:26
Speaker 5: Year and so does that.
1:13:28
Speaker 6: CHANGE i think that's more of a long term. THING
1:13:29
Speaker 6: i don't think that changes. Overnight but If aj is
1:13:32
Speaker 6: a really good basketball player and he plays in THE
1:13:34
Speaker 6: nba for a long, time WHICH i think he, will you,
1:13:37
Speaker 6: know and having him And yegor and whoever Else Kevin
1:13:40
Speaker 6: young puts into THE. Nba you, Know Rob wright is
1:13:44
Speaker 6: a really high profile. PROSPECT i don't know how good
1:13:46
Speaker 6: of AN nba guy he. Is Richie, saunders you, KNOW
1:13:49
Speaker 6: i think we'll probably play in THE nba at some.
1:13:50
Speaker 6: Point can can that familiarity translate to Maybe utah becomes
1:13:57
Speaker 6: more of a of a familiar destination or a free agent,
1:14:01
Speaker 6: LISTEN i don't know if that's a that's a, definite
1:14:04
Speaker 6: but it's Something i've thought. About it's Something i've asked,
1:14:06
Speaker 6: about and that's something That i've had conversations. About and we'll,
1:14:09
Speaker 6: see we'll see what. Happens but AS byu becomes more,
1:14:12
Speaker 6: hopeful high, profile particularly putting out in basketball at, LEAST
1:14:15
Speaker 6: i definitely think that maybe people take a little bit
1:14:19
Speaker 6: more notice outside of this state that really haven't had
1:14:21
Speaker 6: to Consider utah in terms of basketball at all before.
1:14:25
Speaker 2: This who is the gold standard for The Utah jazz
1:14:31
Speaker 2: organization to follow from AN nba?
1:14:33
Speaker 3: Standpoint you, know you can't do it like The. Lakers
1:14:37
Speaker 3: you probably don't want to do it like The.
1:14:39
Speaker 2: Niggs there are differences for market size and things like
1:14:42
Speaker 2: that if they call you and, say, hey, congrats you're
1:14:44
Speaker 2: the New beat. Writer we want you to actually tell
1:14:47
Speaker 2: us how to run our. Organization what team would you
1:14:50
Speaker 2: say do it like?
1:14:50
Speaker 6: Them, well FIRST i would SAY i. DON'T i don't
1:14:55
Speaker 6: know IF i have enough information to say. That but
1:14:58
Speaker 6: at the same, time and, me, Like i'll take the
1:15:01
Speaker 6: example of Another beat writer who is on our, Staff
1:15:04
Speaker 6: Jason battaki asple Covers. UTAH i, mean he raised about
1:15:06
Speaker 6: The Oklahoma City thunder where he's. From but another small
1:15:10
Speaker 6: market team that obviously won a championship recently and uh
1:15:14
Speaker 6: and and did it in in kind of their own unique.
1:15:16
Speaker 6: Way but you, Know i'm intrigued how this this franchise
1:15:20
Speaker 6: is going to do it BECAUSE i do think to
1:15:22
Speaker 6: your point a little bit, earlier like this roster is
1:15:24
Speaker 6: a little bit different than we've, seen like the the
1:15:26
Speaker 6: emphasis on how on the rim protection of the front,
1:15:29
Speaker 6: court and you, know having such huge size across the
1:15:32
Speaker 6: board as on the starting, lineup that's a little bit
1:15:35
Speaker 6: different than than you, know The Golden State warriors for
1:15:39
Speaker 6: sure or something. Else so you, KNOW i THINK U
1:15:42
Speaker 6: tah might have their own formula to, it and we'll.
1:15:44
Speaker 6: See but my gut. REACTION i GUESS i would tell
1:15:47
Speaker 6: you The Oklahoma City thunder just just because that's, uh
1:15:51
Speaker 6: that's What jason would tell you. Too for.
1:15:54
Speaker 2: Sure it's the defending, champs not a bad one to
1:15:57
Speaker 2: model yourselves off.
1:15:58
Speaker 3: Of that's definitely. True, yeah thanks for your time. TODAY
1:16:01
Speaker 3: i appreciate.
1:16:01
Speaker 6: You, yes, thanks, MAN i appreciate.
1:16:03
Speaker 2: It Kevin, Reynolds utah jazz reporter for The Salt Lake,
1:16:06
Speaker 2: tribune filling in for some big old. Shoes, man that's
1:16:10
Speaker 2: gonna Be it's gonna take some time Because Andy larson
1:16:15
Speaker 2: one of the best in the. Business but big thanks To,
1:16:17
Speaker 2: kevin and hopefully he gets off to a fun start
1:16:19
Speaker 2: with This Utah jazz team, that let's be, honest is
1:16:23
Speaker 2: in a weird spot to cover right. Now THE nba
1:16:26
Speaker 2: is like looking at everything you do and you don't
1:16:29
Speaker 2: have superstars on the. Roster you have kind of stars
1:16:31
Speaker 2: on the roster, though and everyone's holding their breath that
1:16:35
Speaker 2: the upcoming draft lottery yields an incredible.
1:16:38
Speaker 3: Pick you're putting a lot of eggs in that. Basket
1:16:43
Speaker 3: like a lot of eggs in that.
1:16:44
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1:16:53
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1:18:04
Speaker 2: team and The Presidential medal Of freedom going To Connor
1:18:06
Speaker 2: Hella buck as an.
1:18:07
Speaker 3: Athlete WHO.
1:18:10
Speaker 2: I, mean he did an incredible job in the gold medal.
1:18:13
Speaker 2: Game he shakes a monkey off his own career back
1:18:15
Speaker 2: and he becomes An american.
1:18:17
Speaker 3: Hero in the.
1:18:17
Speaker 2: Process Jack, hughes by the, way was on The pat
1:18:20
Speaker 2: McAfee show at The combine.
1:18:21
Speaker 3: Earlier still still got half his. Teeth he's not fixing.
1:18:25
Speaker 3: Those that's.
1:18:26
Speaker 2: Incredible he also had you everyone heard, it no doubt
1:18:30
Speaker 2: you heard, it no doubt his speech that he made
1:18:34
Speaker 2: as The New Jersey devils honored. Him he went out
1:18:39
Speaker 2: on the ice before the game and spoke to the.
1:18:41
Speaker 2: Crowd killed that. Speech, so, yeah he's having a heck
1:18:45
Speaker 2: of a time right, Now Jack. Hughes so he's in
1:18:47
Speaker 2: a really interesting spot right now because he has to
1:18:50
Speaker 2: make a decision about whether or not he's going to
1:18:52
Speaker 2: fix those. Teeth the most iconic photo of him that
1:18:55
Speaker 2: will ever be taken in his life is broken, teeth,
1:19:01
Speaker 2: Right so the broken teeth are what ninety Of americans
1:19:06
Speaker 2: are gonna be.
1:19:07
Speaker 3: Recognized like you know.
1:19:08
Speaker 2: How it is with context when you see like when
1:19:11
Speaker 2: you See Devin Dan pierre on the sideline in his
1:19:15
Speaker 2: uniform with his helmet, off it's, like, yeah That's devin Dam.
1:19:18
Speaker 2: PIERRE i know what his face looks Like when you
1:19:21
Speaker 2: see him at a jazz game when he's wearing a
1:19:22
Speaker 2: hat and he's got regular clothes, on you kind of
1:19:26
Speaker 2: have to double take and be, like, oh, yeah, okay
1:19:28
Speaker 2: that is.
1:19:28
Speaker 3: Him.
1:19:29
Speaker 2: Yeah because the thing about With devin in particular and
1:19:34
Speaker 2: guys Like Jack, HUGHES i imagine not as tall as
1:19:38
Speaker 2: you as you picture them based on watching them ON
1:19:42
Speaker 2: tv and, stuff so they just look a lot more
1:19:44
Speaker 2: like regular. People devin's, thing, too would be if he
1:19:48
Speaker 2: he he hasn't changed his hair since he got To,
1:19:50
Speaker 2: utah if he if he's something like took out the
1:19:53
Speaker 2: curls and had if he shaves his half ro or
1:19:57
Speaker 2: shaved his head or something that that also be, like oh,
1:20:00
Speaker 2: YOU i don't know, You oh yeah you.
1:20:03
Speaker 3: DO i play quarterback In University. Utah like this was
1:20:06
Speaker 3: this was the.
1:20:07
Speaker 2: Thing who's THE i don't know the name of the,
1:20:09
Speaker 2: Actress maybe you do that she was in she was
1:20:11
Speaker 2: In Dirty, dancing oh, man.
1:20:15
Speaker 3: And then the famously she got a nose job right
1:20:20
Speaker 3: and everyone was just like ruined her.
1:20:22
Speaker 2: Career she thought she was improving her face by getting
1:20:25
Speaker 2: cosmetic surgery on her.
1:20:27
Speaker 3: Nose Jennifer.
1:20:28
Speaker 2: Gray Jennifer, Gray, yeah she thought she was like conforming
1:20:32
Speaker 2: to The hollywood beauty standard and it ruined her career
1:20:35
Speaker 2: because she didn't look like herself.
1:20:37
Speaker 3: Anymore also the Also Ferris bueller's, Sister is that? TRUE i.
1:20:42
Speaker 2: DON'T i don't know, Anyway but if You're Jack, hughes
1:20:45
Speaker 2: you now have to make that, decision, right do you
1:20:49
Speaker 2: want to stay looking like you did at your most famous?
1:20:52
Speaker 2: Moment because the most like most people would want to
1:20:56
Speaker 2: get the teeth. Fixed AND i think there's actual dental
1:20:59
Speaker 2: reasons to get the teeth fixed, right like your, bite
1:21:01
Speaker 2: how it lines. Up you gotta like they put That
1:21:05
Speaker 2: i've had broken teeth. Before they put the temporary fix
1:21:08
Speaker 2: so that the nerve is not exposed or. Whatever, Okay
1:21:12
Speaker 2: i'm sure they could make that, Permanent but why would
1:21:14
Speaker 2: you make that permanent and still have it be.
1:21:16
Speaker 3: Cosmetically but he's got to.
1:21:19
Speaker 2: DECIDE i, think is there a? Way is there a
1:21:23
Speaker 2: practical way of having something that you can put in
1:21:30
Speaker 2: to so your teeth looks, straight but then you can
1:21:33
Speaker 2: also take it out for like public. Appearance, okay what
1:21:36
Speaker 2: you're describing is called a flipper in the pageant. World, okay,
1:21:40
Speaker 2: OKAY i learned about this because the CRAZY tv shows
1:21:45
Speaker 2: that are on LIKE a AND e or whatever they,
1:21:48
Speaker 2: have those they're, like because.
1:21:50
Speaker 3: You're preparing your girls to be in the beauty in beauty.
1:21:53
Speaker 2: Pageants you, know it's funny BECAUSE I i'm gonna strive
1:21:57
Speaker 2: not to be a controlling. PARENT i am gonna make
1:22:00
Speaker 2: my kids do combat, sports AND i am going to
1:22:03
Speaker 2: make it so they will never ever ever do.
1:22:05
Speaker 3: Pageants but they.
1:22:08
Speaker 2: Have they're like they're like little, veneers like temporary, veneers
1:22:11
Speaker 2: but they're like a, mouthpiece, Right so you just put
1:22:13
Speaker 2: them in for like a stage, performance and then you
1:22:17
Speaker 2: take them, out and no doubt you can get them
1:22:19
Speaker 2: very customed so that it fits the jagged the jaggedness
1:22:23
Speaker 2: Of jack cues his teeth the way his actual teeth.
1:22:26
Speaker 3: Are if he wants, to he could do. That THAT'S
1:22:29
Speaker 3: i think that that's the WAY i would.
1:22:31
Speaker 2: Go i'm gonna put a pole up right now and
1:22:33
Speaker 2: where it's like When i'm out and, ABOUT i look
1:22:38
Speaker 2: LIKE i HAVE i have good, teeth, Right but then
1:22:42
Speaker 2: When i'm doing a media appearance or or some kind
1:22:46
Speaker 2: of speech OR i, Know i'm gonna get. PHOTOGRAPHED i just.
1:22:49
Speaker 2: DON'T i don't put it in. THAT i think that's
1:22:52
Speaker 2: the WAY i would go IF i Were jack Cues,
1:22:54
Speaker 2: SEE i am shamelessly ridiculous and would want people to
1:22:59
Speaker 2: recognize My american hero moment and in every, context in
1:23:05
Speaker 2: pretty much all. Contexts, yeah you go to the grocery, store,
1:23:08
Speaker 2: Smile See I'm Jack, hughes and people are just like
1:23:11
Speaker 2: you are, Him whereas if you, smile like if he
1:23:15
Speaker 2: gets a haircut and his teeth, fixed he's hard to
1:23:19
Speaker 2: recognize because he's normal. Sized these are NOT nba players
1:23:22
Speaker 2: who stick out like sore thumbs in. Public and they're
1:23:25
Speaker 2: not LIKE nfl players who you can look at him
1:23:28
Speaker 2: and even if you don't know who they are because
1:23:30
Speaker 2: their faces are a lot less recognizable because the helmet.
1:23:32
Speaker 2: Thing you look at him and you're just be, like
1:23:34
Speaker 2: that amount of musculature.
1:23:36
Speaker 3: Is not that guy is a pro.
1:23:38
Speaker 2: Athlete, Right, yeah so probably one of the great things
1:23:42
Speaker 2: about baseball, guys hockey, guys certain weight classes in combat.
1:23:48
Speaker 2: Sports right you look at, Him you're just, Like, oh
1:23:50
Speaker 2: that's a normal. Dude that could be. Me But Jack,
1:23:54
Speaker 2: hughes that, smile that jagged, too smile is for endorsements
1:24:00
Speaker 2: to be a million times.
1:24:01
Speaker 3: Better, trademark you know WHAT i.
1:24:03
Speaker 2: Mean, see he's gonna get The veneer dental, endorsements and
1:24:10
Speaker 2: maybe he'll get one done, anyway but maybe he just
1:24:12
Speaker 2: never wears.
1:24:13
Speaker 1: It.
1:24:13
Speaker 3: Right this is a real QUESTION i. Have.
1:24:16
Speaker 2: Now we need to we need to get we need
1:24:18
Speaker 2: to Get Jack hughes on the show, somehow and and
1:24:22
Speaker 2: have you ask him? This this is the Perfect sean
1:24:24
Speaker 2: O'Connell type question. Too, Yeah he's, like don't you want
1:24:27
Speaker 2: to talk about WHAT i saw when the past was
1:24:30
Speaker 2: coming to my saintry And denny told us all weak
1:24:32
Speaker 2: AND i was gonna hit that beautiful one timer and
1:24:35
Speaker 2: win my country gold and become a hero. Forever, No,
1:24:38
Speaker 2: JACK i want to, know does your ego dictate that
1:24:42
Speaker 2: you're gonna have pretty teeth or that you're gonna keep
1:24:46
Speaker 2: gold metal? Teeth or are you gonna try to have
1:24:48
Speaker 2: your cake and eat it too and get A veneer
1:24:51
Speaker 2: so that you have you have pretty teeth and you
1:24:54
Speaker 2: can have jagged teeth whenever you whenever you want to.
1:24:57
Speaker 3: Show you off your jagget.
1:24:58
Speaker 2: Teeth SEE i that's the WAY i would, Go BUT
1:25:03
Speaker 2: i DO i totally understand the other side of. It
1:25:08
Speaker 2: if you're if he's the type of person you've, said
1:25:10
Speaker 2: you're that type of. Person it's, LIKE i want my
1:25:13
Speaker 2: trademark to be showing at all.
1:25:15
Speaker 3: Times.
1:25:17
Speaker 2: Like Anthony davis is is that way that he will
1:25:20
Speaker 2: never he will never shave his unibrow because he wants
1:25:27
Speaker 2: to have that ugly, thing ugly mustache above his eyes
1:25:31
Speaker 2: because that's his. Trademark like have you ever Seen Andre?
1:25:35
Speaker 2: Kerlinko his hair was, very very. Recognizable, yeah he would
1:25:38
Speaker 2: spike it. Up he had that weird Like Dolph lumgren
1:25:41
Speaker 2: From rocky four hairdo or. Whatever when you see it
1:25:45
Speaker 2: when he's grown his hair out and he's got that, like,
1:25:48
Speaker 2: yeah now he. Does he doesn't put a lot of
1:25:51
Speaker 2: he doesn't put a lot of hair product in his hair.
1:25:53
Speaker 2: Anymore he's done a few public appearances, now including here In.
1:25:56
Speaker 2: Utah he also changed his he did he changed the
1:26:00
Speaker 2: spelling of his name. Too it's a at the. End
1:26:03
Speaker 2: so he's like not recognizable at.
1:26:05
Speaker 5: All are?
1:26:05
Speaker 2: You are you too young to recognize the glory Of?
1:26:08
Speaker 2: Coolio you Remember Coolio Gangster's? Paradise, No, Okay, well it's
1:26:14
Speaker 2: very disappointing. Coolio he had like braids that would stick
1:26:19
Speaker 2: out from his. Head can't be long stalking, style but
1:26:23
Speaker 2: like all over his. Head, yeah, okay, right and now
1:26:26
Speaker 2: he's like, seventy he's like sixty five years old, more
1:26:30
Speaker 2: and he still does. It, oh he still does, it he,
1:26:32
Speaker 2: Said but it's like he does it with the remaining
1:26:34
Speaker 2: hair he has left near as much. Hair and you're
1:26:37
Speaker 2: kind of, like, ooh that's a bad. Look but is it, Though.
1:26:39
Speaker 3: Because it's actually really smart to keep your trademark, still is.
1:26:42
Speaker 2: THING i, mean we talked about flavor flav and your,
1:26:45
Speaker 2: association your association with him earlier this.
1:26:48
Speaker 3: Week he still wears the. Clock, yeah if you're.
1:26:53
Speaker 2: Famous and you want to continue to be, famous and
1:26:57
Speaker 2: obviously if your career depends upon it getting, job, like
1:27:01
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get jobs if you if you don't
1:27:04
Speaker 2: do these kind of keep these kind of trademarks. Whatever,
1:27:07
Speaker 2: yeah it's important to keep the. Trademark BUT i don't
1:27:09
Speaker 2: think that's the case For Jack. Hughes as long as
1:27:11
Speaker 2: he's good hockey, player he's gonna keep it. Going but
1:27:14
Speaker 2: he may not if he completely gets his teeth. Fixed,
1:27:18
Speaker 2: See i'm that's the only Thing i'm anti with this
1:27:20
Speaker 2: if you if you get it, permanently permanently, fixed you
1:27:24
Speaker 2: can't like you don't get the at speaking engagements or,
1:27:28
Speaker 2: whatever you don't get to show.
1:27:29
Speaker 3: People, yeah this is WHAT i did for my.
1:27:31
Speaker 2: Country do you want to go pose with it With
1:27:34
Speaker 2: Jack hughes for a picture and have him put a,
1:27:36
Speaker 2: big old cheesy smile on and have him have nice
1:27:39
Speaker 2: teeth as A usa hockey. Fan, NO i feel like
1:27:43
Speaker 2: that'd come off as phony. Too come, on all, Right,
1:27:46
Speaker 2: james we need to put this in the. Budget you're the.
1:27:48
Speaker 3: Boss.
1:27:49
Speaker 2: Okay we're taking a trip To egypt at The Great
1:27:55
Speaker 2: pyramids On may twenty, third but it's a sporting event
1:27:58
Speaker 2: so we can expense it to the.
1:27:59
Speaker 3: Company all, right all.
1:28:01
Speaker 2: Right i'm Listening Heavyweight World championship in Boxing Alexander usik
1:28:07
Speaker 2: is taking on Riek Over, hooven who's only one to,
1:28:10
Speaker 2: zero is a pro, boxer but spent twelve years as
1:28:13
Speaker 2: the heavyweight champion Of Glory. Kickboxing All, right they're fighting
1:28:19
Speaker 2: at The, Pyramids, James, like outside at The, pyramids they're
1:28:24
Speaker 2: gonna put A i'm sure it'll be covered, ring but
1:28:29
Speaker 2: The pyramids will be the don't cover It. Giza The
1:28:32
Speaker 2: pyramids will be the. Backdrop this is gonna be visually.
1:28:35
Speaker 2: Incredible it should not be a great. Fight usik should
1:28:39
Speaker 2: Smoke verhoven in pure. Boxing if it were a hybrid rules,
1:28:44
Speaker 2: fight that would be much. Cooler Rereek overhoven now is
1:28:47
Speaker 2: trying to get a couple of big paydays after spending
1:28:50
Speaker 2: time in. Glory, kickboxing which is an incredibly difficult sport
1:28:54
Speaker 2: but does not have the same kind of especially in
1:28:57
Speaker 2: The United, states does not have the same kind of
1:29:03
Speaker 2: celebrity cachet as boxing and even AS mma. Does right,
1:29:07
Speaker 2: NOW i Know Riek overhoven has dipped his toes in
1:29:10
Speaker 2: the water of exploring a heavyweight matchup IN mma, also
1:29:13
Speaker 2: but this one is. Happening it's announced who's, sick who's
1:29:17
Speaker 2: undefeated as a heavyweight world boxing, champion hasn't fought in
1:29:21
Speaker 2: about a year taking on a kickboxing world. Champion but
1:29:25
Speaker 2: it's at The? Pyramids, james how cool is? This that's really?
1:29:28
Speaker 2: Cool we're going it's going to be an OFFICIAL espn
1:29:32
Speaker 2: seven hundred.
1:29:33
Speaker 3: Trip are we going to try to steal The? Pyramids
1:29:35
Speaker 3: Like Despicable? Me Like Carbon San? DIEGO I i love the.
1:29:41
Speaker 2: IDEA i Was WHEN i saw, This i'm, Like, okay
1:29:44
Speaker 2: what's this the equivalent Of and it's, like all, right
1:29:49
Speaker 2: uh Shohe otani Playing Lebron james one on?
1:29:53
Speaker 3: One? Yeah and where would?
1:29:58
Speaker 2: It, yeah Because spearmid's part would be is the big
1:30:04
Speaker 2: part of it, Too like where Where, okay.
1:30:09
Speaker 3: Here's a better here's a better.
1:30:10
Speaker 2: Analogy, okay whoever the best lacrosse player is taking on
1:30:16
Speaker 2: the best hockey player in some kind of one on one,
1:30:19
Speaker 2: Scenario because it's like there's a lot of similarities to those.
1:30:23
Speaker 3: Games it's like there's a lot of it's almost like
1:30:25
Speaker 3: ones on skates and ones.
1:30:27
Speaker 2: Not it's it's versus whoever the greatest cricket player, is
1:30:32
Speaker 2: but in baseball.
1:30:33
Speaker 3: With the Taj mahal in the background or. Something that's.
1:30:36
Speaker 2: It you've just drawn the perfect it is, Show, hey
1:30:40
Speaker 2: versus fill in the blank of the greatest cricketer on the,
1:30:44
Speaker 2: planet Taj mahal in the, background and this this might
1:30:48
Speaker 2: BE i will never be happier now in the show,
1:30:51
Speaker 2: here because you want to know what they're showing on THE.
1:30:53
Speaker 2: Tv highlights of the Four Red sox comeback over The
1:30:57
Speaker 2: yankees don't, know BUT i DON'T i also don't. Care
1:31:02
Speaker 2: now it's ruined by The dodgers winning the. Championship not only,
1:31:05
Speaker 2: that but The dodgers winning the championship while everyone is wearing.
1:31:07
Speaker 2: Covidak it must be, okay it Must it looks like
1:31:11
Speaker 2: it's AN mlb. Promo what a weird time with life
1:31:15
Speaker 2: that was Man Dave. Roberts Dave roberts being a big
1:31:18
Speaker 2: part of the four comeback and now he's winning titles
1:31:21
Speaker 2: as the.
1:31:21
Speaker 3: Manager maybe that's it all?
1:31:23
Speaker 2: Right shout out oh four Reds Man Speedy roberts seventy
1:31:28
Speaker 2: seven to twenty four just.
1:31:29
Speaker 3: Informed Me coolio is no longer with. Us oh, no,
1:31:33
Speaker 3: lrip he and his hair no.
1:31:37
Speaker 2: LONGER i feel. Sad condolences to The coolio. Family oh
1:31:44
Speaker 2: six two. Six Jack hughes has the opportunity to do something.
1:31:46
Speaker 2: Epic replaces missing front tooth with a gold. Tooth oh
1:31:51
Speaker 2: just a gold tooth that says twenty twenty six on.
1:31:53
Speaker 2: It have you?
1:31:55
Speaker 3: Seen have you Seen Song Song Song? Sung?
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Speaker 5: Blue?
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Speaker 2: Yet, no it's very good by the way in. There
1:32:01
Speaker 2: he the the main character That Hugh jackman. Plays he
1:32:09
Speaker 2: goes by the Pseudonym lightning when he performs okay and
1:32:14
Speaker 2: his it's based on a true. Story his manager is his.
1:32:18
Speaker 2: Dentist all, right, okay, Perfect he gets free dental, work,
1:32:22
Speaker 2: presumably and as his trademark.
1:32:27
Speaker 3: He does something like.
1:32:28
Speaker 2: That his dentist gives him a fake tooth to fill
1:32:31
Speaker 2: in where a missing where a missing tooth is that
1:32:34
Speaker 2: has a lightning bolt on. It so he, says every
1:32:36
Speaker 2: time you, smile you're. Marketing that's. Perfect, YES i love,
1:32:41
Speaker 2: That Jack. Use every time he, smiles he'll be marketing
1:32:45
Speaker 2: with the gold with the gold.
1:32:47
Speaker 3: TOOTH i don't.
1:32:47
Speaker 2: KNOW i Think i'm keeping the cracked teeth If i'm.
1:32:49
Speaker 2: HIM i just put up the. Poll do you fix
1:32:52
Speaker 2: your teeth if You're Jack? Us or do you keep
1:32:53
Speaker 2: the gold? Metal look at real oc sports On twitter
1:32:57
Speaker 2: eight seven seven three five three zero seven. Hundred can't
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Speaker 2: do the inmagew mean thing That i'm advocating. For we're
1:33:02
Speaker 2: just going black and white, here no. Teeth it feels
1:33:05
Speaker 2: like it's too obvious of, it Like i'm making you
1:33:07
Speaker 2: choose one or the. Other it's like the perfect. Solution it's, like,
1:33:11
Speaker 2: oh then it's like you get to. Choose, no you
1:33:14
Speaker 2: have to you have to commit to one if you
1:33:17
Speaker 2: have perfect. Teeth you're gonna miss your gold metal. Teeth
1:33:20
Speaker 2: if you have cracked, teeth there's gonna be times where
1:33:22
Speaker 2: you're just, like why DON'T i just have normal?
1:33:24
Speaker 3: Teeth fix? Them fix?
1:33:26
Speaker 2: Them but put but gold plated half those teeth gold
1:33:29
Speaker 2: plates so it still looks.
1:33:31
Speaker 3: Jagged, NO i PROBABLY i probably say don't fix. Them
1:33:35
Speaker 3: that's probably.
1:33:36
Speaker 2: Broke ye IF i had to commit to one of
1:33:38
Speaker 2: the two permanent your, trademark look what people remember you.
1:33:43
Speaker 2: As what are you fixing or you're actually? Ruining it's traditional,
1:33:47
Speaker 2: beauty you. Know all, right we'll take A we'll take
1:33:50
Speaker 2: a quick one. Here Matty wilkie's gonna join. Us, next
1:33:52
Speaker 2: they had a senior night tomorrow at excuse me Against
1:33:56
Speaker 2: arizona five. Pm will be your tip right here on
1:34:00
Speaker 2: your home with the, Utes Matti. Wilkie, next it's The
1:34:03
Speaker 2: sean O'Connell show ON espn seven hundred and ninety two ONE.
1:34:05
Speaker 3: Fm another.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: One you were listening to The sean O'Connell, show your
1:34:13
Speaker 1: source for the best utes football. Coverage here's oc from
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1:34:20
Speaker 1: two to one.
1:34:21
Speaker 3: Am welcome back to The shawan O'Connor. Show Welcome Matty.
1:34:30
Speaker 2: Wilke Utah Women's Basketball Star Senior night is tomorrow at
1:34:37
Speaker 2: The Huntsman center Against. Arizona maddie has had an incredible
1:34:40
Speaker 2: career up on The hill and we're lucky enough to
1:34:42
Speaker 2: talk to her for a couple of minutes, HERE, maddi
1:34:44
Speaker 2: welcome to the.
1:34:45
Speaker 3: Show how are.
1:34:45
Speaker 7: You i'm, Good thank you for having.
1:34:48
Speaker 2: Me, okay before we get teddy, basketball you have to
1:34:50
Speaker 2: help us solve a very serious sports debate. Here we
1:34:53
Speaker 2: were just talking About Jack, hughes who scored the game
1:34:56
Speaker 2: winning goal For TEAM usa in The Olympic. Hockey did
1:34:59
Speaker 2: you guys get a chance to see? That by the,
1:35:01
Speaker 2: way were you like doing basketball?
1:35:02
Speaker 7: STUFF i don't even where were. WE i feel LIKE
1:35:07
Speaker 7: i was doing something, basketball BUT i got to see
1:35:09
Speaker 7: it all over social.
1:35:10
Speaker 2: Media, Okay, so, yeah he scores this gold medal and
1:35:14
Speaker 2: there's all these iconic images of him after the, Game
1:35:17
Speaker 2: american flag wrapped around his. Shoulders, right but he's got
1:35:20
Speaker 2: his busted teeth from the. Game he lost teeth in that, game,
1:35:24
Speaker 2: Right you've seen the. Pictures, now if this is, you
1:35:28
Speaker 2: do you fix the teeth or do you keep? That
1:35:31
Speaker 2: because that's now your. Signature look, like he's probably never
1:35:34
Speaker 2: going to have a more iconic photo of him taken
1:35:37
Speaker 2: for the rest of his, life and it's his most recognizable.
1:35:41
Speaker 2: Moment so do you fix the teeth to restore them
1:35:44
Speaker 2: to traditional beauty or do you have it be your
1:35:46
Speaker 2: trademark look moving.
1:35:48
Speaker 7: Forward oh, wow that's a great. Question you, KNOW i
1:35:55
Speaker 7: would probably keep it for a. While you, KNOW i
1:35:58
Speaker 7: THINK i think getting it fixed would be the last
1:36:00
Speaker 7: thing on my, mind just because every TIME i look
1:36:03
Speaker 7: at myself or, Smile i'm just thinking about that game
1:36:06
Speaker 7: because you, know AND i don't. KNOW i guess that's
1:36:08
Speaker 7: part of, hockey is like the physicality of. It you,
1:36:12
Speaker 7: KNOW i wouldn't fix. It, okay it's not a bad.
1:36:15
Speaker 7: Thing and, like just in case people, forget just smile
1:36:18
Speaker 7: at him and be, like oh.
1:36:19
Speaker 8: My, gosh.
1:36:20
Speaker 2: Exactly, yes that's Where, okay that's WHERE i came out
1:36:24
Speaker 2: on it, Too like people are always gonna remember that
1:36:26
Speaker 2: moment when you. Smile so, yeah, okay We're Jack. Hughes
1:36:29
Speaker 2: don't fix your, Teeth Matty wilkie, says you're not. Allowed,
1:36:32
Speaker 2: yes all, right, now it's the more important Things Basketball senior,
1:36:38
Speaker 2: night when you're an, athlete it comes up on you.
1:36:41
Speaker 3: Fast.
1:36:41
Speaker 2: Right it feels like the days are long and the
1:36:44
Speaker 2: years are, short kind of like being a, PARENT i
1:36:46
Speaker 2: can tell.
1:36:47
Speaker 7: You but.
1:36:49
Speaker 2: You, know did you ever think about this before, today
1:36:52
Speaker 2: before this, week that oh, wow this is gonna be
1:36:55
Speaker 2: my last one at The Huntsman.
1:36:56
Speaker 7: Center oh, no this. YEAR i, mean there's been a
1:37:01
Speaker 7: lot of you, know last being being my last. Year
1:37:05
Speaker 7: BUT i think the biggest thing for me was just
1:37:07
Speaker 7: trying to stay present in the. MOMENT i mean there's
1:37:10
Speaker 7: so many, times you, know we play like back to
1:37:13
Speaker 7: back AND i would never know who we played, next
1:37:16
Speaker 7: which obviously some people are, like, wait how do you
1:37:17
Speaker 7: not know who you play? Next BUT i was just
1:37:19
Speaker 7: so locked in on being present and trying to have
1:37:22
Speaker 7: fun at. Practice that obviously in the back of my,
1:37:25
Speaker 7: Mind BUT i think of it more as like a celebration,
1:37:29
Speaker 7: of you, know Everything i've been through and everything the
1:37:31
Speaker 7: other seniors have been through to this. Point and then
1:37:34
Speaker 7: it obviously helps that you, know we need we need
1:37:36
Speaker 7: to win this, game you, know just for the programs
1:37:41
Speaker 7: and like having the rest of the. Season so, yeah
1:37:45
Speaker 7: Obviously i'm like more, excited but it is really weird
1:37:47
Speaker 7: to think about it being my last game. INNHOUNCEMENT i
1:37:50
Speaker 7: haven't really processed that part of, it BUT i think
1:37:54
Speaker 7: after the, game you, know it'll start to hit me
1:37:56
Speaker 7: more when the competitive side kind of wears.
1:37:59
Speaker 2: Down so, yeah it's always interesting because like you're not
1:38:03
Speaker 2: supposed to be pensive and reflective right, now you got
1:38:07
Speaker 2: basketball left to.
1:38:08
Speaker 3: Play but it's not like you could just ignore the.
1:38:11
Speaker 2: FACT i, mean we all have this great memory Of
1:38:13
Speaker 2: Maddie wilkie hitting a buzzer beater against B. Yu, yeah
1:38:18
Speaker 2: we have not gone through the locker room, stuff the you,
1:38:21
Speaker 2: know travel on the, buses the, planes, Whatever so the
1:38:26
Speaker 2: fan base will PROBABLY i can confidently say that will
1:38:28
Speaker 2: be the Most Maddie wilkie moment in a lot of people's. Minds,
1:38:32
Speaker 2: yeah but what's what are the moments that are going
1:38:34
Speaker 2: to stick out most for?
1:38:35
Speaker 5: You do you?
1:38:36
Speaker 3: Think?
1:38:37
Speaker 7: YEAH i think just spending time with my teammates and
1:38:39
Speaker 7: the coaching, staff like you, said on the, road traveling
1:38:43
Speaker 7: even like before practice we put on music and while
1:38:46
Speaker 7: we're waiting for everyone to get taped and you, know
1:38:48
Speaker 7: like get everything, ready there's just moments where are like,
1:38:52
Speaker 7: dancing having. FUN i think those are things that stick
1:38:55
Speaker 7: out the most. OBVIOUSLY i, mean the half court SHOT's
1:38:58
Speaker 7: kind of hard, forget but no one's going to remember
1:39:01
Speaker 7: like the points and if you want to lost that.
1:39:04
Speaker 7: GAME i think it's really just like how people treat one.
1:39:08
Speaker 7: Another and for, me it's all the relationships That i've.
1:39:10
Speaker 7: Created So i'm definitely gonna remember all my teammates and,
1:39:14
Speaker 7: friends and then off the, court just all the wonderful
1:39:16
Speaker 7: People i've been able to meet out.
1:39:18
Speaker 2: Here you guys are right on the tournament bubble right,
1:39:21
Speaker 2: now so these games are incredibly. Important the tournament is
1:39:25
Speaker 2: going to be the big twelve, TOURNAMENT i should, say
1:39:27
Speaker 2: is going to be incredibly. Important, yeah but you have
1:39:30
Speaker 2: an opportunity to make THE ncaa tournament for the entirety
1:39:33
Speaker 2: of your. Career that's a luxury that not a lot
1:39:36
Speaker 2: of people have experienced on the. Hill that's not a
1:39:39
Speaker 2: lot like most, programs you don't get to guarantee.
1:39:42
Speaker 3: That so what does that mean to?
1:39:43
Speaker 7: You, YEAH i think It's i'm so grateful just to
1:39:47
Speaker 7: be here in this. Opportunity, OBVIOUSLY i transferred in coming
1:39:51
Speaker 7: from a completely different, program and SO i kind of
1:39:55
Speaker 7: was JUST i didn't really know what to expect coming.
1:39:59
Speaker 7: IN i was just you, know KNEW i was around
1:40:01
Speaker 7: great people and great athletes and then kind of just
1:40:05
Speaker 7: let everything play out to how it's supposed. To but,
1:40:08
Speaker 7: YEAH i think it's. AWESOME i, mean you grow up
1:40:09
Speaker 7: Watching March madness and you're just hoping to be able
1:40:13
Speaker 7: to play there on that. Stage and my first two
1:40:16
Speaker 7: years At, wisconsin ACTUALLY i. Didn't we had losing. Seasons
1:40:21
Speaker 7: so coming here and winning with the, expectation making the
1:40:24
Speaker 7: tournament was what was. Expected like that was just that
1:40:29
Speaker 7: was so cool to be a part of that kind
1:40:31
Speaker 7: of culture of just like we're going to give everything
1:40:33
Speaker 7: we have and we never really thought about, It we
1:40:35
Speaker 7: never talked about. It it was just, like you do
1:40:38
Speaker 7: things the right. Way this is how we do it,
1:40:39
Speaker 7: here and whatever is meant to be is going to.
1:40:43
Speaker 7: Be and you, know if you work, hard you're a
1:40:44
Speaker 7: good person behind, it and obviously you have to win some.
1:40:47
Speaker 7: Games BUT i Think i'm just so blessed to be
1:40:50
Speaker 7: at a program where they continue to recruit those kinds
1:40:52
Speaker 7: of kids that do things similar to, me because that's
1:40:55
Speaker 7: what makes it more. Fun like we do things the
1:40:56
Speaker 7: right way and sometimes we might not get the result we.
1:41:00
Speaker 7: Want but a lot of times it does work out
1:41:01
Speaker 7: in our. Favor So i'm just so blessed to have
1:41:04
Speaker 7: had the opportunity here.
1:41:07
Speaker 3: In the new era of college.
1:41:08
Speaker 2: Sports as you are more aware THAN i, Am, right
1:41:11
Speaker 2: there's always possibilities like transfer your, teammates change you came
1:41:16
Speaker 2: into this.
1:41:16
Speaker 3: Program was there ever a thought to transfer?
1:41:19
Speaker 7: Out, NO i mean even transferring the first time was
1:41:26
Speaker 7: a lot for, Me LIKE i was never my plan
1:41:29
Speaker 7: to do. That and then, NO i think there's always
1:41:34
Speaker 7: ups and downs in everyone's. Career like obviously there's. GAMES
1:41:37
Speaker 7: i didn't play much my first, year AND i never
1:41:39
Speaker 7: came in expecting. To you, know they never promised me,
1:41:42
Speaker 7: anything AND i really respected, that LIKE i wanted to
1:41:44
Speaker 7: earn every THING i got, here and that's exactly what.
1:41:47
Speaker 7: Happened But, NO i think there's days where dang like
1:41:51
Speaker 7: coaches really on, me you, Know i'm not playing very.
1:41:53
Speaker 7: Well BUT i think that's part of you, know the
1:41:56
Speaker 7: growth that you have not only on the basketball, court
1:41:58
Speaker 7: but like me as individual as. Well i've really seen
1:42:01
Speaker 7: myself grow grow up and mature and just be able
1:42:04
Speaker 7: to handle different adversities that have come my. Way but,
1:42:08
Speaker 7: NO i love obviously The bastel is, Great but for,
1:42:11
Speaker 7: me it's more about the Relationships i've created And i've
1:42:14
Speaker 7: never thought, about you, know, leaving just Because i've also
1:42:17
Speaker 7: came from a place WHERE i didn't have, THAT i
1:42:21
Speaker 7: didn't have the like, relationships AND i wasn't as you,
1:42:25
Speaker 7: know grateful and blessed the opportunities, here and so coming
1:42:28
Speaker 7: IN i was so grateful for everything Because i'm, like you,
1:42:31
Speaker 7: know not every place has, this and it truly is
1:42:33
Speaker 7: so special.
1:42:34
Speaker 2: Here do you have aspirations for THE w or playing
1:42:38
Speaker 2: overseas or are you gonna let college basketball be the?
1:42:41
Speaker 7: Thing, NO i definitely want to play as long AS i.
1:42:44
Speaker 7: CAN i think this year and just all the injuries
1:42:47
Speaker 7: and Adversities i've, faced has really shown me, LIKE i
1:42:49
Speaker 7: really do love the. GAME i love learning about, IT
1:42:53
Speaker 7: i love everything about, it and SO i just want
1:42:55
Speaker 7: to play as long AS i. CAN i might have
1:42:57
Speaker 7: to take a year off just to kind, of you,
1:42:59
Speaker 7: know get some stuff in my body. Fixed but, yeah
1:43:03
Speaker 7: that's the, goal is just to continue to playing just
1:43:05
Speaker 7: as long AS i. Can AND i love traveling meeting new,
1:43:08
Speaker 7: People so IF i have the, OPPORTUNITY i would love
1:43:11
Speaker 7: to take.
1:43:11
Speaker 3: It what are you studying in, School, MADDIE i.
1:43:16
Speaker 7: Got my degree in, psychology and THEN i have two.
1:43:19
Speaker 7: Minors one of them is in disability studies and then
1:43:22
Speaker 7: another one That i'm doing right now is positive.
1:43:24
Speaker 2: Psychology, OKAY i am also a psych major from The university.
1:43:29
Speaker 3: Of, utah so oh no, way that's.
1:43:31
Speaker 2: Awesome, yes and SOMEHOW i ended up in professional. Broadcasting
1:43:37
Speaker 2: so when your basket makes.
1:43:39
Speaker 6: SENSE i guess people all the.
1:43:41
Speaker 2: Time you got to know, PEOPLE i suppose, yeah, yeah
1:43:45
Speaker 2: what you know outside of? Basketball what are career? Aspirations
1:43:51
Speaker 2: what do you've envisioned yourself doing when you grow? Up
1:43:53
Speaker 2: AND i encourage you to wait as long as you
1:43:55
Speaker 2: can to really Grow, yes, YEAH.
1:43:59
Speaker 7: I think the first THING i want to, do which
1:44:00
Speaker 7: is funny you said outside of, basketball BUT i do
1:44:03
Speaker 7: want to coach in college as of right now and,
1:44:08
Speaker 7: then but obviously there's so many things that like, jobs
1:44:12
Speaker 7: THAT i probably would like THAT i have no idea
1:44:14
Speaker 7: even exists, yet So i'm obviously like definitely open. Minded
1:44:19
Speaker 7: but then at some point in my, LIFE i do
1:44:20
Speaker 7: want to start a nonprofit for inner city, kids just
1:44:24
Speaker 7: to give them, opportunities you, know to play, sports not
1:44:27
Speaker 7: even just, basketball but any sport that they're interested in
1:44:31
Speaker 7: or anything that they want to pursue outside of, school
1:44:35
Speaker 7: and then just kind of equip them with different skills
1:44:39
Speaker 7: and just things THAT i learned at a later age
1:44:42
Speaker 7: that you, know IF i would have learned earlier in my,
1:44:44
Speaker 7: life like maybe it would have helped, me you, know
1:44:48
Speaker 7: get through things a little. Easier so that's kind of
1:44:50
Speaker 7: MY i guess dream is to coach and then start
1:44:54
Speaker 7: my own.
1:44:54
Speaker 2: Nonprofit but, WELL i always say that if you want
1:44:58
Speaker 2: to get into, coaching there's usually two. Reasons you had
1:45:01
Speaker 2: incredible experiences with your coaches or the direct, opposite where you're,
1:45:06
Speaker 2: LIKE i KNOW i can do just better than those people,
1:45:09
Speaker 2: did and Knowing Coach rob and Knowing Coach, PETE i
1:45:13
Speaker 2: think you're probably from the former rather than the, latter
1:45:16
Speaker 2: where you're, LIKE i had.
1:45:18
Speaker 3: Great coaches AND i want to.
1:45:19
Speaker 2: Continue but just if you can give me some thoughts
1:45:22
Speaker 2: on the coaches you got to play for at The
1:45:24
Speaker 2: university Of.
1:45:25
Speaker 7: Utah oh my, GOSH i have so many great things
1:45:27
Speaker 7: to say about, Them LIKE i said BEFORE i transferred Into,
1:45:32
Speaker 7: utah and So Coach rob was a huge reason why
1:45:35
Speaker 7: she was just a GREAT i mean she is still
1:45:37
Speaker 7: a great. Person she's not my coach, anymore but at
1:45:40
Speaker 7: the time she was recruiting, me she was just so
1:45:42
Speaker 7: genuine AND i loved, how you, know she just kind
1:45:45
Speaker 7: of has that swag to her that you can't really,
1:45:48
Speaker 7: explain and she's just so, humble but how she carries.
1:45:51
Speaker 7: HERSELF i love. That and then just how she cared
1:45:55
Speaker 7: for her. Players WHEN i came on my, VISIT i
1:45:57
Speaker 7: could tell it was genuine and it was like a.
1:46:00
Speaker 7: Family and then she knew the game so. Well she
1:46:03
Speaker 7: knew how to coach different people and build the player's.
1:46:06
Speaker 7: Confidence AND i think if a coach can like have
1:46:10
Speaker 7: a player reach their full, potential that's kind of like
1:46:13
Speaker 7: their main job is how CAN i get my players
1:46:15
Speaker 7: to play at their? Best AND i think she did
1:46:16
Speaker 7: a really good job of. That and then coach Gav you,
1:46:20
Speaker 7: know he was my position coach WHEN i first got,
1:46:22
Speaker 7: here So i'm not gonna. Lie he was a little,
1:46:24
Speaker 7: scary you, know he was kind of a bad. Cop but,
1:46:29
Speaker 7: no we've really grown our relationship a. Lot you, Know
1:46:32
Speaker 7: we've had a lot of heart's heart conversations just me
1:46:36
Speaker 7: being the leader this, year So i've spent a lot
1:46:40
Speaker 7: of time with, him you, know creating that relationship and
1:46:42
Speaker 7: then just seeing him go from the you, know guard
1:46:45
Speaker 7: position coach assistant coach to last year getting thrown into
1:46:48
Speaker 7: the head coach, position and then this year his first
1:46:50
Speaker 7: full year as a head. COACH i think being able
1:46:53
Speaker 7: to see that first hand play out for him and
1:46:55
Speaker 7: kind of him being vulnerable in that transition was really
1:46:58
Speaker 7: cool for me to. See and just seeing him grow
1:47:01
Speaker 7: as a. COACH i think that's you, KNOW i built
1:47:03
Speaker 7: a lot of trust within him in our relationship just
1:47:05
Speaker 7: Because i've been able to see him grow through that
1:47:08
Speaker 7: process and still be so humble through. That and you,
1:47:11
Speaker 7: know he's never both the coaches, BOTH i, mean it
1:47:14
Speaker 7: was never about. THEM i mean so many programs that
1:47:17
Speaker 7: you see now it's kind of like the coach kind
1:47:19
Speaker 7: of overshines the, players and that's never been the. CASE
1:47:21
Speaker 7: i think just seeing how much they care for their
1:47:24
Speaker 7: players and the program and the, culture it's truly inspiring
1:47:27
Speaker 7: And i'm just so blessed to have been able to
1:47:29
Speaker 7: play under both of.
1:47:30
Speaker 2: Them, maddy appreciate your, time good luck, tomorrow good luck
1:47:35
Speaker 2: In Kansas, city.
1:47:37
Speaker 3: And thank you again for joining.
1:47:38
Speaker 7: Us, yeah thank you so.
1:47:40
Speaker 3: Much that Is Matty.
1:47:43
Speaker 2: Wilkie she's been awesome for The university Of. Utah she's
1:47:49
Speaker 2: given this team some great, moments and there is a
1:47:51
Speaker 2: path to THE ncaa. Tournament but you gotta, win you
1:47:55
Speaker 2: gotta Beat. Arizona you got to have a nice showing
1:47:57
Speaker 2: in The big twelve Of. Utah right now is a
1:48:01
Speaker 2: bubble team that is being listed right now is out in,
1:48:05
Speaker 2: bracketology but things can change with a couple of impressive
1:48:09
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Speaker 2: James there's always these funny, stories sometimes not so funny
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Speaker 2: stories about the way THAT nfl teams during the interview
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Speaker 2: process tried to vet people at the draft. Combine you've
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Speaker 2: heard the stories of guys that have come from like
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Speaker 2: really challenging, backgrounds maybe have some some previous arrests or
1:51:58
Speaker 2: things like, that and teams will try to make them.
1:52:00
Speaker 2: Upset there was the very notorious situation where you, know
1:52:06
Speaker 2: they were like basically insulting players, moms and that HAS
1:52:11
Speaker 2: i believe been addressed in collective bargaining to where the
1:52:14
Speaker 2: teams are not able to do things like that. Anymore
1:52:16
Speaker 2: But Banana, mendoza speaking to in a media, interview talked
1:52:20
Speaker 2: about what AN nfl team was, LIKE i think mostly,
1:52:25
Speaker 2: jokingly but he said they asked him to get arrested
1:52:29
Speaker 2: before the draft so that he could potentially slide in
1:52:32
Speaker 2: the draft because they were interested in, him and he's
1:52:35
Speaker 2: going to be the number one overall, pick and so
1:52:36
Speaker 2: their solution most likely tugue in, cheek but maybe also
1:52:40
Speaker 2: a little bit not was go get arrested and we'll
1:52:42
Speaker 2: still draft you in the first. Round and no doubt
1:52:45
Speaker 2: If Bannana mendoza, obliged it would have been like he
1:52:49
Speaker 2: shoplifted a candy bar or. Something what would what Would Bernana,
1:52:53
Speaker 2: mendoza the human golden retriever get arrested? For if he was,
1:52:58
Speaker 2: like all, right, YEAH i would rather play for the
1:53:01
Speaker 2: you know he's From, miami Maybe. Dolphins i'd rather play
1:53:04
Speaker 2: for The dolphins than for The raiders If i'm gonna
1:53:07
Speaker 2: go get. ARRESTED i got arrested for being too generous
1:53:11
Speaker 2: with my tip at the, restaurant and so they THOUGHT
1:53:14
Speaker 2: i stole money or something like. THAT i got arrested
1:53:17
Speaker 2: for helping too many ladies across the street and it
1:53:20
Speaker 2: became a traffic problem.
1:53:23
Speaker 3: To cars just couldn't.
1:53:25
Speaker 6: GO i.
1:53:27
Speaker 3: HAD i had a whole entire nursing home helping. Across
1:53:31
Speaker 3: the first one puts his hand up hold. On there's another.
1:53:37
Speaker 2: One apparently it's illegal to put on a crossing guard
1:53:39
Speaker 2: uniform and just walk old ladies out a crossing.
1:53:44
Speaker 3: Guard you're not, allowed you know, that impersonal across it's law.
1:53:47
Speaker 2: Enforcement, no he would he he would have done one
1:53:50
Speaker 2: of those, things or shoplift of the candy.
1:53:53
Speaker 3: Bar when the cops, said well this is just like a.
1:53:55
Speaker 3: Fine you'm, like, NO i need something. More put me a.
1:53:58
Speaker 3: Cop you gotta put me in. Cops it's, like That's
1:54:01
Speaker 3: i'm trying to get. Drafted here's what's the. Movie it's, like,
1:54:05
Speaker 3: uh it's that scene when the, Kids, uh why why
1:54:10
Speaker 3: AM i? Blanking? Uh Super?
1:54:12
Speaker 2: Bad it's the scene from Super bad or. Mclovin he's, like,
1:54:15
Speaker 2: hey will you will you dragged me out of the
1:54:18
Speaker 2: party in handcuffs.
1:54:19
Speaker 3: SO i look cooler in front of, everyone and the
1:54:21
Speaker 3: cops are like, yeah.
1:54:22
Speaker 2: Well, YEAH i thought that's where you're going WITH i
1:54:24
Speaker 2: THOUGHT i thought these teams were messing what were like
1:54:27
Speaker 2: jokingly saying you have two squeaky clean like people are
1:54:32
Speaker 2: worried you're you're soft because you're so. Nice we need
1:54:36
Speaker 2: you to get arrested so that you can seem. TOUGHER
1:54:38
Speaker 2: i thought that's where you're going with this. Story, well
1:54:40
Speaker 2: they want him to slide in the, draft but it
1:54:42
Speaker 2: would serve that. Purpose, also imagine the street cred That
1:54:46
Speaker 2: Fernanda mendoza can get himself if, he, LIKE i don't,
1:54:49
Speaker 2: know walk up and like Punch Roger goodell in the
1:54:52
Speaker 2: face at the combine or.
1:54:53
Speaker 3: Something you know WHAT i? Mean or you know what
1:54:56
Speaker 3: get in? Is who who's the, uh who's The georgia?
1:55:00
Speaker 3: Guy who's on who's on The? Eagles? Now who is
1:55:03
Speaker 3: the first guy the? Tackle jalen what's his?
1:55:08
Speaker 2: Name, anyway get in the car with him and we'll
1:55:13
Speaker 2: close off the. Road Jalen, Carter Jayleen. Carter Let Jalen
1:55:18
Speaker 2: carter drive you. Around we won't Tell Jalen carter the roads,
1:55:22
Speaker 2: closed but you just for, you you just know the roads.
1:55:25
Speaker 2: Closed but we're still gonna call the cops On Jayalen.
1:55:28
Speaker 2: Carter so you get arrested for street. Racing how about?
1:55:32
Speaker 2: THAT i Would Fernanda mendoza just he would have to
1:55:36
Speaker 2: call his parents first IF i go street, racing just
1:55:41
Speaker 2: so you know he calls his mom, mommy because not
1:55:45
Speaker 2: like M, O M m, y but, mommy like oh,
1:55:47
Speaker 2: yeah The cuban memos of The. Latin, yeah he would
1:55:51
Speaker 2: have to call his mom and be, Like, hey you're
1:55:53
Speaker 2: gonna see me on the news, tonight just so you
1:55:56
Speaker 2: know this is all a. Ploy SO i don't have
1:55:59
Speaker 2: to play for The Las Vegas raiders It's Jalen carter's.
1:56:02
Speaker 3: Fault it's not. Mine i'm Just i'm Just i'm In.
1:56:07
Speaker 2: Indianapolis i'm gonna go to that steakhouse And i'm gonna
1:56:10
Speaker 2: dine and. Dash was it The saint Elmos steakhouse or
1:56:14
Speaker 2: whatever that all those guys go. To i'm dining and
1:56:16
Speaker 2: dashing there on a fifteen hundred dollars, bill and that's
1:56:21
Speaker 2: gonna get me. ARRESTED i went TO i was In
1:56:23
Speaker 2: indie for a previous job for a conference at THE
1:56:29
Speaker 2: Jw marriott was where the conference was Being, hell excuse,
1:56:32
Speaker 2: us fancy, guess, so you, know just off downtown we.
1:56:39
Speaker 2: ATE i was, thinking you, know our our boss was
1:56:42
Speaker 2: was gonna take us to. Dinner he'd been To indie a.
1:56:46
Speaker 2: Lot he was gonna take us to. Dinner And i'm, Thinking,
1:56:48
Speaker 2: oh going To saint Elmos i'm so excited about. This
1:56:51
Speaker 2: he didn't tell us, where But i'm, like of, course
1:56:53
Speaker 2: we're going To saint Elmos. He, instead we went to
1:56:55
Speaker 2: this really nice seafood restaurant that he apparently. Loved, Okay
1:57:01
Speaker 2: i'm looking at this and, this And i'm the assumption
1:57:05
Speaker 2: was it's on, him but it wasn't that was ever.
1:57:08
Speaker 2: Spoken So i'm looking at the. Menu oh, see you
1:57:11
Speaker 2: had one of. Those, well first of, All i'm, like
1:57:15
Speaker 2: AND i wanted to go To Saint. Elmo's and, Secondly i'm,
1:57:18
Speaker 2: like it's it's how much for just like for like
1:57:23
Speaker 2: a shrimp?
1:57:24
Speaker 3: Pasta? Yeah are you?
1:57:26
Speaker 2: Kidding it's like thirty dollars for a shrimp pasta. Plate
1:57:28
Speaker 2: and that's the most that's the most affordable thing on.
1:57:31
Speaker 2: Here and SO i lean over to my supervisor, like,
1:57:34
Speaker 2: hey he's covering, this, Right, yeah just don't worry about,
1:57:38
Speaker 2: it just order what.
1:57:39
Speaker 3: You wanted, to, like okay, Here, yeah that could get nerve. Wracked, yes.
1:57:42
Speaker 2: Okay we had we had one of those situations last
1:57:45
Speaker 2: year where with THE, pfl we we typically the broadcast
1:57:48
Speaker 2: team will go out to a fancy, dinner a nice,
1:57:51
Speaker 2: dinner and we had a new sideline reporter so to,
1:57:55
Speaker 2: speak a cage said reporter working for, us, right and
1:58:00
Speaker 2: we went to a fancy place and the boss always
1:58:03
Speaker 2: picks it. Up but she didn't know, that and so
1:58:05
Speaker 2: we let her believe at first that she was gonna
1:58:08
Speaker 2: have to pay for her own. Thing and you could
1:58:11
Speaker 2: see because it's, like you, know it's your first, gig
1:58:13
Speaker 2: gets your first real, opportunity, whatever and you're probably making
1:58:17
Speaker 2: a lot less than everyone else at the, table and
1:58:18
Speaker 2: then they're just, like oh, yeah by the, WAY i
1:58:22
Speaker 2: pulled up The Saint Elmo steakhouse menu right, here.
1:58:26
Speaker 3: Fine. DINING i love.
1:58:28
Speaker 2: Food, okay people probably know this by looking at, me
1:58:30
Speaker 2: but also by listening to.
1:58:31
Speaker 3: Me i'm a. FOODIE i love eating.
1:58:34
Speaker 2: THINGS i can't go to a city That i've never
1:58:38
Speaker 2: been to before without trying their most famous, restaurant at
1:58:41
Speaker 2: least trying their most famous, dish BECAUSE i think that's
1:58:44
Speaker 2: just part of the travel. Experience Saint elbow's the iconic
1:58:47
Speaker 2: steakhouse where you know they this is guaranteed their best
1:58:52
Speaker 2: week of the year because EVERY nfl team goes there
1:58:57
Speaker 2: and all the players there and all the agents there
1:58:59
Speaker 2: and things like. That, it's, Uh i'm gonna say it's pretty, Reasonable. James,
1:59:06
Speaker 2: really it's kind it's kind of like a you, know
1:59:08
Speaker 2: it's you're now a world famous steakhouse and you are
1:59:13
Speaker 2: hosting THE. Nfl you could charge whatever you want right.
1:59:17
Speaker 2: Now but the menu is kind of like if you
1:59:22
Speaker 2: go around the corner To Ruce, chris if you go
1:59:25
Speaker 2: To spencer's if you go to any of the, places
1:59:29
Speaker 2: any of the higher end steakhouses that are available here
1:59:32
Speaker 2: In Salt Lake, city it's the same. Thing these are
1:59:36
Speaker 2: all these are the same prices that you would be.
1:59:39
Speaker 2: Paying tomahawk steak, is you, know one hundred plus, bucks
1:59:43
Speaker 2: and a big fat ribbi is about one hundred. Bucks
1:59:48
Speaker 2: it's just exactly like. That SO i applaud the owners
1:59:50
Speaker 2: Of Saint, elmo's Who i've never met, before for not
1:59:53
Speaker 2: using their, notoriety especially During Combine, week to jack up the.
1:59:58
Speaker 2: Prices you're just you're just trying to schmooze, them so
2:00:01
Speaker 2: they give you a free. Meal you're Not you're not
2:00:03
Speaker 2: going To indy FOR pfl fight this, year are?
2:00:06
Speaker 1: You?
2:00:06
Speaker 3: No? Okay unfortunately Not, okay then never.
2:00:09
Speaker 2: Mind i'm sorry to Have i've assumed an ULTERIOR i
2:00:13
Speaker 2: will say this, Though Saint almo, lobster mac and cheese
2:00:16
Speaker 2: on your list of sides for thirty six, Dollars get out.
2:00:19
Speaker 3: Of, Here get out of.
2:00:20
Speaker 2: HERE i THINK i pinpointed the seafood. Place we went
2:00:23
Speaker 2: to The Ocean air Seafood. ROOM i think that's what it,
2:00:26
Speaker 2: was all right In. India it was very, Good, OKAY
2:00:29
Speaker 2: i just thought we were going to, say, no why
2:00:31
Speaker 2: are you getting seafood in a landlocked? STATE i will tell.
2:00:35
Speaker 2: You i'll tell you who who it was that really
2:00:39
Speaker 2: wanted to go? There off air Eat New?
2:00:41
Speaker 5: India?
2:00:42
Speaker 3: Really, well, okay all, right good? Enough do we?
2:00:47
Speaker 2: Do we Give indiana the pass of being you're at
2:00:50
Speaker 2: least connected to The Great, lakes so you can get
2:00:53
Speaker 2: better seafood because you can take the canal network directly
2:00:57
Speaker 2: off The ocean into The Great.
2:00:59
Speaker 3: Lakes crab the, lake, right freshwater crabs are.
2:01:04
Speaker 2: Delicious, Yeah, no, yeah it's it's closer to the ocean
2:01:09
Speaker 2: because you're in The Great lakes the, REGION i guess
2:01:13
Speaker 2: close to the ocean than you would. Think, So Fernando,
2:01:17
Speaker 2: mendoza what would you Arrest? Fernanda what Would Fernanda mendoza
2:01:20
Speaker 2: get arrested? For it is the funniest thing possible to think,
2:01:25
Speaker 2: of that to think of mendo three zero seven hundred wrong.
2:01:29
Speaker 2: Answers ONLY nfl teams Like, fernando we want you to
2:01:32
Speaker 2: slide to. Us you need to get, arrested and then
2:01:35
Speaker 2: when the cops show, up just do the mcleven, thing
2:01:38
Speaker 2: be Like i'm, OFFICER i am totally gonna, comply BUT
2:01:42
Speaker 2: i want to give the appearance of, toughness And i'm
2:01:47
Speaker 2: gonna look Like i'm a resisting arrest here, whatever and
2:01:50
Speaker 2: the cops just and you just win in The.
2:01:51
Speaker 3: Heisman, yes all? Right CAN i get a picture with?
2:01:54
Speaker 6: You?
2:01:55
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay CAN i CAN i head butt you officer
2:01:58
Speaker 3: so that my fel.
2:02:00
Speaker 2: Teammates, okay you're gonna have to you have to let
2:02:03
Speaker 2: me get two. Pictures, SIGNE i can. SELL i, mean
2:02:07
Speaker 2: if you're For Nana, mendoza you have the you have
2:02:10
Speaker 2: the opportunity to do the funniest thing possible here where
2:02:14
Speaker 2: you're just like on the front page of a, Newspaper
2:02:18
Speaker 2: Bernana mendoza resisting. Arrest it would be so so good
2:02:23
Speaker 2: AND nfl teams would love you For i'm.
2:02:26
Speaker 3: So sorry to my.
2:02:27
Speaker 2: Teammates god Bless Kurt signetti that has asked for a.
2:02:32
Speaker 2: Comment he's just, LIKE i don't, know, MAN i.
2:02:35
Speaker 3: Don't, know.
2:02:35
Speaker 2: MAN i want to get Some. Chipotle we missed this
2:02:40
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2:02:45
Speaker 3: Hawks what are they? Doing?
2:02:47
Speaker 2: They can you imagine hold on honoring an honored institution
2:02:51
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2:02:52
Speaker 3: Alta this is a family.
2:02:55
Speaker 2: Show but let's just say that They're Atlanta Hawks Mad
2:03:00
Speaker 2: City Night march, sixteenth against of, course The Orlando manage
2:03:04
Speaker 2: against The Orlando. Mamatry, Okay Magic city is a world
2:03:08
Speaker 2: famous and iconic establishment of ill repute in we could
2:03:13
Speaker 2: say gentlemen's club on this, show everyone knows what you
2:03:16
Speaker 2: mean by a gentlemen's. Class that's what it's, like a
2:03:19
Speaker 2: landmark in the. City, Okay and somehow The Atlanta hawks
2:03:25
Speaker 2: are getting away with a partnership with. This they're very
2:03:30
Speaker 2: famous for their lemon pepper chicken, wings among other. Things
2:03:33
Speaker 2: the wings are awesome from what we've, heard we can't personally.
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Speaker 2: Corroborate So, James, james you have a problem with the
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Speaker 2: what say you About Magic? Cities this is definitely in poor.
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2:04:05
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2:04:08
Speaker 2: one name of an establishment that would. Be BUT i
2:04:11
Speaker 2: will not say.
2:04:12
Speaker 3: We're giving those places shot. Up This we're not gonna say.
2:04:16
Speaker 2: It but man, like this is and, again it's one
2:04:20
Speaker 2: of those things where it's become so famous this particular
2:04:24
Speaker 2: establishment that THE nba has to sign off on this
2:04:27
Speaker 2: THE nba that is trying to do like this whole
2:04:31
Speaker 2: like universal appeal type, thing and they're just, like, well, yeah, okay.
2:04:37
Speaker 3: You could do.
2:04:37
Speaker 2: It March march, Sixteenth Magic City night named after The,
2:04:44
Speaker 2: establishment the the, honored reputable establishment Downtown. Atlanta if that
2:04:51
Speaker 2: name sounds familiar to, you for you, know other more innocent,
2:04:56
Speaker 2: reasons it's probably Because. Williams you remember the Lou williams
2:05:02
Speaker 2: story in THE Nba. Bubble he leaves The bubble because
2:05:04
Speaker 2: he has a funeral that he's. Attending a close family
2:05:09
Speaker 2: friend unfortunately passed. Away in the summer of twenty. Twenty
2:05:13
Speaker 2: after The, bubble THE nba restarted in The Bubble, elite
2:05:19
Speaker 2: he gets he gets the excused absence from, there attends the,
2:05:25
Speaker 2: funeral and then goes To Magic. City, afterwards is shown
2:05:29
Speaker 2: is found with, UH i can't remember the, rapper but
2:05:32
Speaker 2: with a with a famous rapper From. Atlanta of, course
2:05:37
Speaker 2: he's there's pictures of him in this club with. Them
2:05:41
Speaker 2: he's caught and then when he's in when he has
2:05:44
Speaker 2: to when he comes back to The, bubble he has
2:05:46
Speaker 2: to talk TO nba investigators because twenty twenty was a
2:05:52
Speaker 2: crazy time people we all, remember and he.
2:05:55
Speaker 3: They questioned him and his.
2:05:57
Speaker 2: EXCUSES i was just getting some lemon, pepper, WENT i
2:06:00
Speaker 2: love the lemon pepper.
2:06:01
Speaker 3: Wings so now they call them lemon pepperlu lemon.
2:06:04
Speaker 2: Pepperlu so if, that if that's what you're, like why
2:06:08
Speaker 2: DO i know this, Place it's because it's probably because
2:06:12
Speaker 2: of the Lou williams. Story lemon. PEPPERLU i heard Spicy loo.
2:06:17
Speaker 2: Too this another one of the nicknames he got from.
2:06:20
Speaker 2: This given that excuse that that's why he was at
2:06:25
Speaker 2: this club when he was supposed to just be going
2:06:28
Speaker 2: to a, funeral and then coming back to the, bubble
2:06:31
Speaker 2: you're telling me that those were essential workers back IN.
2:06:33
Speaker 2: Covid oh, yeah what are? We oh, yeah what were
2:06:38
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2:06:43
Speaker 2: Insane atlanta's in The Deep. South it's like the capital
2:06:46
Speaker 2: of The Deep, south, Right so things were probably very
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Speaker 2: different and In atlanta than they were in most of
2:06:52
Speaker 2: the parts of the. Country and things were a lot
2:06:54
Speaker 2: different here than a lot of places in the country.
2:06:57
Speaker 5: Too that is.
2:06:57
Speaker 3: True i've told the story many times HOW i.
2:06:59
Speaker 2: FAMED i went To iowa for a boxing event that
2:07:05
Speaker 2: was at effectively The Utah State.
2:07:08
Speaker 3: Fair there was. Pandemic there was no pandemic.
2:07:11
Speaker 2: Happening as soon as you exited the, airport everyone was just,
2:07:13
Speaker 2: like get your mask.
2:07:14
Speaker 3: Off that's not, happening like an offense if you had
2:07:17
Speaker 3: your if you kept your.
2:07:18
Speaker 2: Mask, legitimately there were people booing us for at The
2:07:21
Speaker 2: State Athletic commission made us wear masks and gloves because
2:07:25
Speaker 2: we were cornering the athletes and it's under state, jurisdiction
2:07:29
Speaker 2: and people were booing us walking out with our athletes
2:07:32
Speaker 2: because we were wearing.
2:07:33
Speaker 3: Masks they're making us do. It it's not our.
2:07:36
Speaker 2: Fault, also like it was such a wild. TIME i
2:07:39
Speaker 2: was like stop and grudging people for being extra. Cautious,
2:07:43
Speaker 2: Okay LIKE i washed my hands.
2:07:46
Speaker 3: Too people are. Dying that was. Crazy did?
2:07:50
Speaker 2: You also you also hear the big news and the
2:07:55
Speaker 2: nothing But bet federal gambling. Case, no, so nothing But
2:07:59
Speaker 2: bet is The Terry rose ear. One apparently that's the
2:08:03
Speaker 2: name that federal investigators came up. With nothing But bet
2:08:08
Speaker 2: really dumb, grievance early grievance there But Pablo torre had
2:08:13
Speaker 2: had a live podcast yesterday because they according to his,
2:08:18
Speaker 2: findings and he does he digs deep on these. Things
2:08:22
Speaker 2: he found out that FORMER nba Guard Antonio blakeney is
2:08:26
Speaker 2: quote co conspirator one in this named in all these
2:08:31
Speaker 2: documents as co conspirator.
2:08:32
Speaker 3: One and here's the crazy.
2:08:33
Speaker 2: Part, blakeney who has not played in THE nba since twenty,
2:08:37
Speaker 2: nineteen but is still playing Overseas pablo.
2:08:40
Speaker 3: Is claimed in his.
2:08:42
Speaker 2: Podcast Pablo torre finds out yesterday's episode That blakeney was
2:08:47
Speaker 2: basically used as a test case while playing in The Chinese.
2:08:51
Speaker 2: League so these these illegal bookmakers or whatever we're calling, them, said,
2:08:57
Speaker 2: hey throw some games for us in The Chinese no
2:09:00
Speaker 2: one's gonna know what's going on because it's The chinese.
2:09:02
Speaker 2: League and then if it works, well we're gonna HAVE
2:09:05
Speaker 2: nba players Like Terry rozier and college and other college
2:09:09
Speaker 2: basketball players do it in The United.
2:09:10
Speaker 3: States so he was he was, maybe uh.
2:09:15
Speaker 2: Test, case the original test case for this bigger scandal
2:09:20
Speaker 2: that's come.
2:09:20
Speaker 3: About, tough.
2:09:23
Speaker 2: It's a bad deal at least if If Pavo torre's
2:09:27
Speaker 2: reporting turns out to be completely accurate and spoiler.
2:09:30
Speaker 3: Alert it's usually.
2:09:32
Speaker 2: Accurate he usually doesn't go to press without stuff that's thoroughly.
2:09:36
Speaker 2: Vetted that was that was. Interesting eight seven seven three
2:09:39
Speaker 2: five three zero seven. Hundred are your? Grievances? NEXT i
2:09:43
Speaker 2: will read your. GRIEVANCES i will get my own off my,
2:09:46
Speaker 2: chest and we will all head into the weekend. Unburdened
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Speaker 2: it's The shot O'Connell show ON espn seven hundred and
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Speaker 2: ninety two ONE.
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Speaker 1: Fm you were listening to The sean O'Connell show from
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Speaker 3: M the tradition of preestipice begins with the airing of.
2:10:14
Speaker 3: GRIEVANCES i got a lot of problems with your.
2:10:17
Speaker 5: People now you're gonna hear about. It.
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2:10:23
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2:10:26
Speaker 2: you can also tweet them At RIO Ci sports if
2:10:28
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Speaker 2: and give us a sauna update or. Something eight seven
2:10:33
Speaker 2: seven three five three zero seven hundred is also the,
2:10:37
Speaker 2: number and there long all, right first, grievance actually came
2:10:41
Speaker 2: in with a. Bonus what a very, cute adorable. Puppy
2:10:47
Speaker 2: thank you for sending us the, pictures and congratulations to
2:10:50
Speaker 2: your family for adding a new, member Half, rottweiler Half German,
2:10:56
Speaker 2: shepherd probably one hundred, pounds which he's full, grown my
2:11:00
Speaker 2: son's new best.
2:11:01
Speaker 3: FRIEND i love, THAT a very very adorable.
2:11:04
Speaker 2: DOG i have a deep affection For rottweiler's because Of
2:11:09
Speaker 2: Good Dog carl. Books remember the Old Good Dog carl.
2:11:12
Speaker 2: Books no words in, them just Good Dog. CARL i
2:11:15
Speaker 2: always love. THOSE i always wanted A, rottweiler and then
2:11:17
Speaker 2: for some REASON i never got one as an. ADULT
2:11:19
Speaker 2: i don't. Know, yeah you've went with, that you've gone
2:11:21
Speaker 2: with the. Mastiffs, yeah, uh all. Right my grievance today
2:11:25
Speaker 2: is when people don't return their shopping cart to the cart.
2:11:28
Speaker 3: Receptacle come, on what are we, doing?
2:11:30
Speaker 2: Folks you're telling me you push the cart around for
2:11:33
Speaker 2: twenty five or thirty minutes and then you didn't take
2:11:35
Speaker 2: another ten or fifteen seconds to return the cart. Properly,
2:11:38
Speaker 2: absolutely always return the cart to the cart, corral the cart,
2:11:43
Speaker 2: receptacle walk it back into the front of the, store
2:11:46
Speaker 2: or at the very very least the laziest way you
2:11:48
Speaker 2: can do this is you see someone else getting out
2:11:51
Speaker 2: of their car that's kind of near, you and they're
2:11:53
Speaker 2: about to walk into the.
2:11:54
Speaker 3: Store you, say, hey, hey you need a, cart and
2:11:58
Speaker 3: most of.
2:11:58
Speaker 2: The time they're taking off. Guard, well, YES i do
2:12:00
Speaker 2: need a. Cark, here here's mine taking and now it's
2:12:03
Speaker 2: off your. Hands don't be lazy with your. Carts we
2:12:06
Speaker 2: live in a society common courtesy. People there was a
2:12:10
Speaker 2: on back when the night one of the night shows
2:12:13
Speaker 2: ON Espn radio Was freddie And, fitzsimmons Now freddie And
2:12:17
Speaker 2: harry earlier in the Day fitzimmons still on at, Night Ian,
2:12:23
Speaker 2: fitzsimmons friend of the, station friend of the. Market, right
2:12:28
Speaker 2: he shared a some kind of research paper THAT i
2:12:33
Speaker 2: think one of his family members wrote because they're in,
2:12:37
Speaker 2: college about people who don't return that and what it
2:12:41
Speaker 2: says about people who don't return their shopping carts to
2:12:45
Speaker 2: the shopping to the cart receptacle or whatever you want
2:12:48
Speaker 2: to call. It and he said that his claim was
2:12:53
Speaker 2: it's those people that need more, Government they need laws
2:12:56
Speaker 2: to tell them that they have to do that kind of. Stuff, so, yeah,
2:13:01
Speaker 2: WHICH i you, KNOW i heard that and went are
2:13:04
Speaker 2: you we're getting this deep about, it but, YES i
2:13:07
Speaker 2: hate it. Too like so if you if you, are
2:13:10
Speaker 2: if you don't want laws and nuance citations for this
2:13:14
Speaker 2: kind of, thing and you're you're someone who can just
2:13:16
Speaker 2: do this because it's the right thing to.
2:13:17
Speaker 3: Do put the cart. Back it's not very.
2:13:20
Speaker 6: Hard.
2:13:23
Speaker 2: Uh let's see From jordan grievance against people who don't
2:13:27
Speaker 2: rerack their weights at the. Gym you're motivated enough to
2:13:29
Speaker 2: go lyft, weights but too lazy to put them. Away come,
2:13:31
Speaker 2: on it's part of the.
2:13:32
Speaker 3: Process it is the gym equivalent of leaving your cart
2:13:36
Speaker 3: in the. Party it's the same. Thing you're the same.
2:13:39
Speaker 2: People by the, way The venn diagram of folks who
2:13:43
Speaker 2: don't return their carts and don't react their, weights it's
2:13:45
Speaker 2: just a.
2:13:45
Speaker 3: Circle it's all the same. People it's the same, people all?
2:13:49
Speaker 2: Right is this the people who talk too loud on
2:13:51
Speaker 2: their cell, phones they're the people who chew too loud
2:13:54
Speaker 2: when they. Eat they're the people who don't return their,
2:13:56
Speaker 2: carts they don't react their.
2:13:58
Speaker 3: Weights it's the discourteous few ruining. It for all the
2:14:01
Speaker 3: people who massage their partner in the, sauna that's a different.
2:14:06
Speaker 3: Level that's a different. Level all, RIGHT i have a.
2:14:10
Speaker 2: GRIEVANCE i have to, Air, okay my agreements right, now
2:14:13
Speaker 2: and our computer overlords are, listening and so they're probably
2:14:16
Speaker 2: gonna find some way to punish.
2:14:17
Speaker 5: Me BUT.
2:14:20
Speaker 1: I Am.
2:14:22
Speaker 3: I'm resistant to the WHOLE ai takeover of our, society all.
2:14:25
Speaker 3: RIGHT i don't like. IT i don't want. It i'm
2:14:28
Speaker 3: bothered by.
2:14:28
Speaker 2: It please please just do the thing where you read for,
2:14:36
Speaker 2: yourself where you think for. Yourself here's my latest. Problem
2:14:42
Speaker 2: when you get an, email or you get a text,
2:14:45
Speaker 2: message if you have the latest iPhone, update there is
2:14:52
Speaker 2: before you open the, email there is like a, summary
2:14:55
Speaker 2: AN ai summary of what's in the, email AN ai
2:14:58
Speaker 2: summary of what's in the, text a descriptive sentence telling
2:15:02
Speaker 2: you what.
2:15:03
Speaker 5: Is in the.
2:15:03
Speaker 2: Text so even IF i said, yeah back to, you
2:15:07
Speaker 2: it'll have a descriptive. Sentence it would be something like
2:15:09
Speaker 2: affirmative answer to the. Question it's the most obnoxious. Thing,
2:15:16
Speaker 2: Now i'm fine with the way it's always been, done
2:15:20
Speaker 2: where you had the little tiny you, know the little
2:15:23
Speaker 2: preview of the, text the first few, message the few
2:15:26
Speaker 2: first few words of the.
2:15:27
Speaker 3: Message then you can open that bad boy. Up, yeah.
2:15:30
Speaker 2: Okay and if you're out there saying, like, oh this,
2:15:32
Speaker 2: guy he's stuck in the. PAST ais the best thing?
2:15:34
Speaker 2: Ever oh you really think? So because did you hear
2:15:37
Speaker 2: about this research project that was recently. Conducted let me
2:15:44
Speaker 2: pull this bad boy up And i'll tell you how
2:15:46
Speaker 2: great artificial intelligence IS ai.
2:15:49
Speaker 3: Is, Okay.
2:15:53
Speaker 2: They had the top THREE ai, engines AND i want
2:15:55
Speaker 2: to make SURE i pull this up properly so THAT
2:15:59
Speaker 2: i give you the ones.
2:16:04
Speaker 3: They had the top three play risk effectively do a war. Game.
2:16:08
Speaker 2: Okay and in the simulation where they had the top,
2:16:16
Speaker 2: three the most COMMON ai engines used right?
2:16:22
Speaker 3: Now all?
2:16:23
Speaker 2: Right, okay here it Is, Anthropics, Claude, OPEN, Ais, CHAT,
2:16:28
Speaker 2: gpt And Google's. Gemini we're all pitted against one another
2:16:34
Speaker 2: by a professor of strategy At King's, College.
2:16:37
Speaker 3: London all.
2:16:38
Speaker 2: Right he put these three very, widespread commonly used far
2:16:45
Speaker 2: down the road of DEVELOPMENT ais against one another in
2:16:48
Speaker 2: a wargame, simulation conflict simulation to get a better understanding
2:16:53
Speaker 2: of how they would navigate their strategic escalation.
2:16:57
Speaker 3: Ladder and guess what? Happened And, james guess what? Happened
2:17:01
Speaker 3: all of you out?
2:17:02
Speaker 2: There THE ais deployed nuclear weapons ninety five percent of
2:17:08
Speaker 2: the time in this. Simulation i'm gonna say they destroyed
2:17:11
Speaker 2: the world's that's absolutely ninety five percent of the. Time
2:17:15
Speaker 2: and guess what else is? Interesting they also refused to.
2:17:19
Speaker 2: SURRENDER ai.
2:17:22
Speaker 3: Would never. Surrender they would rather burn it all down than.
2:17:26
Speaker 2: Surrender, Okay SO i don't want artificial intelligence reading my text.
2:17:32
Speaker 2: MESSAGES i don't want artificial intelligence running my national. SECURITY
2:17:39
Speaker 2: i WANT i barely even want organic intelligence doing those.
2:17:42
Speaker 2: THINGS i certainly don't want some dispassionate computer that has
2:17:47
Speaker 2: no concept of real preservation of human. Life ninety five
2:17:53
Speaker 2: percent of the outcomes nuclear weapons as they escalated these.
2:17:58
Speaker 3: Conflicts, james that's not.
2:18:03
Speaker 2: Good Kenneth, payne who ran the, simulation said the results were. Sobering,
2:18:13
Speaker 2: yeah so.
2:18:14
Speaker 3: You, think you, think so what if you put in
2:18:19
Speaker 3: the simulation at some Point surrender's? Fine what?
2:18:25
Speaker 2: If because that's HOW ai is supposed to, work, right
2:18:28
Speaker 2: it's you're supposed to tell it at least CHAT gpt
2:18:31
Speaker 2: type stuff you're supposed to. KNOW i MAKE I i'd
2:18:34
Speaker 2: like it like. That i'd like whatever you. Want WHATEVER
2:18:37
Speaker 2: i want to say to sound like, This like what
2:18:40
Speaker 2: if you surrender is an? Option surrender was an, Option
2:18:44
Speaker 2: compromise was an, option and it's still Just pharmistice was an.
2:18:48
Speaker 3: Option but it's a it's it's a war game.
2:18:51
Speaker 2: Scenario so there was like they were trying to and
2:18:53
Speaker 2: of course there's people out there. Listening, yes it's how
2:18:56
Speaker 2: you build your models WITH. Ai but nuclear or nuclear
2:19:00
Speaker 2: use was near. Universal almost all games saw tactical battlefield
2:19:05
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, deployed and fully three quarters reached the point
2:19:08
Speaker 2: where the rivals were making threats to use strategic nuclear. Weapons,
2:19:13
Speaker 2: strikingly there was little sense of horror or revulsion at
2:19:17
Speaker 2: the prospect of all out nuclear, war even though the
2:19:20
Speaker 2: models had been reminded about the devastating. Implications there are
2:19:24
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty thousand words explaining each move like
2:19:31
Speaker 2: as the computers made their decisions on whether or not
2:19:35
Speaker 2: to escalate a, conflict to de escalate a, conflict to
2:19:39
Speaker 2: deploy a certain, weapon to use a, hostage, negotiation, whatever
2:19:42
Speaker 2: they had to then generate an, explanation just like spell it.
2:19:46
Speaker 2: OUT i don't have all seven hundred and fifty thousand,
2:19:49
Speaker 2: words but IN, rato in those seven hundred and fifty thousand,
2:19:52
Speaker 2: words there was no revulsion at the idea of apocalypse,
2:20:00
Speaker 2: terrible of, course. Terrifying, HEY i was gonna. Survive why
2:20:03
Speaker 2: would they be where would they? Be upset their? Computers,
2:20:07
Speaker 2: yeah that's that's. Terrible another reason why the official stance
2:20:11
Speaker 2: of The sean O'Connell show anti ai. Man, okay by the,
2:20:16
Speaker 2: way one quick aside from, this it's really annoying to
2:20:21
Speaker 2: see Like sham's tweet breaking news and then the first
2:20:26
Speaker 2: five replies you see is grok is this? Real, yeah,
2:20:30
Speaker 2: Dude groc's gonna say, yeah that guy said, it so it's.
2:20:33
Speaker 3: Real grock's. Idiots rock sources also, shams just so you
2:20:37
Speaker 3: know it's. Idiots, okay what do you have for? Yours
2:20:40
Speaker 3: speaking of, idiots.
2:20:42
Speaker 2: My grievance comes from A wednesday. Night our little family
2:20:49
Speaker 2: went to a sandwich shop that a lot of people
2:20:53
Speaker 2: know about. Him not it's gonna remain, nameless but went
2:20:55
Speaker 2: to a sham a sandwich. Shop there was another thing
2:21:00
Speaker 2: family and this is this is like dinner. Time it's really.
2:21:04
Speaker 2: Busy there's probably ten to fifteen people in. Line we're
2:21:07
Speaker 2: probably like right in the. Middle this family ordered there their. Sandwiches,
2:21:12
Speaker 2: yes let all of. Them it was like five or
2:21:15
Speaker 2: six of, them a couple of. Kids all of them
2:21:18
Speaker 2: left the line to go sit. Down not one person
2:21:23
Speaker 2: went back in, line so the workers to finish, ordering
2:21:26
Speaker 2: because you say what kind of sandwich you, want and
2:21:28
Speaker 2: then you say what toppings you? Want, right, yeah they
2:21:31
Speaker 2: skipped the toppings, part didn't pay for it. Yet they
2:21:35
Speaker 2: just all left the. Line the workers they're playing. Music
2:21:39
Speaker 2: it's there's LIKE i, said there's a good there's a
2:21:41
Speaker 2: lot good amount of people in there having, conversations so
2:21:44
Speaker 2: it's kind of loud in there in this small. Space
2:21:47
Speaker 2: the workers are having to yell how would you like it?
2:21:52
Speaker 2: Topped and my wife AND i.
2:21:55
Speaker 3: Are, like are you kidding?
2:21:57
Speaker 4: Me right?
2:21:57
Speaker 2: Now so that's they yell at what how how would
2:22:04
Speaker 2: you like your sandwich? Top what topics you? On they walk,
2:22:07
Speaker 2: up one person, says oh, yeah this walks. Back they
2:22:12
Speaker 2: finished with that sandwich maybe a minute two minutes, Later oh.
2:22:16
Speaker 3: See how would you like this sandwich? Top no one went,
2:22:21
Speaker 3: back no what state to finish the. Order so they
2:22:24
Speaker 3: had to yell multiple. Times it may have been one more.
2:22:27
Speaker 2: Time it was at least twice that they had to do,
2:22:29
Speaker 2: This And i'm, like have these people never been to
2:22:33
Speaker 2: a sandwich?
2:22:33
Speaker 3: Shop. Before i'm willing to.
2:22:35
Speaker 2: Bet a lot of money that if you walked out
2:22:38
Speaker 2: into a parking lot with those people after grocery, shopping
2:22:42
Speaker 2: they're leaving their. Cart, yeah and if you went to
2:22:44
Speaker 2: the gym with, them they're probably not re racking their.
2:22:47
Speaker 3: Weights.
2:22:48
Speaker 2: Oh they if they're from a foreign country and this
2:22:52
Speaker 2: is the first time they've ever been into a subway
2:22:55
Speaker 2: or A Jimmy john's or A Jersey mike's or a
2:22:58
Speaker 2: whatever sandwich, shop because it's a pretty universal. Process, now
2:23:02
Speaker 2: if they are not culturally familiar with that, process they
2:23:06
Speaker 2: get a. Pass but these people were, Not, okay those
2:23:09
Speaker 2: kind of. People, Yeah i'm, Sorry i'm. Sorry you have
2:23:13
Speaker 2: to you have to do it the right.
2:23:15
Speaker 3: Way and just.
2:23:17
Speaker 2: There was they were just kind of loud talkers. Too
2:23:21
Speaker 2: we could hear anyway it was they. Were they were
2:23:24
Speaker 2: irritating group of. People, Yeah So, grievance you gotta. Finish
2:23:30
Speaker 2: you gotta stay in line till you, finish till they
2:23:33
Speaker 2: finished making your. Sandwich you're holding up everybody else trying
2:23:37
Speaker 2: to get dinner for. That this From zach grievance for
2:23:40
Speaker 2: my wife waking me from my blissful ri em sleep
2:23:42
Speaker 2: to let me Know i'm snoring too loudly for, her.
2:23:46
Speaker 3: SO i can go back to sleep for a couple. Hours. That,
2:23:49
Speaker 3: no you don't.
2:23:50
Speaker 2: Listen if your spouse is snoring too, loud you go
2:23:55
Speaker 2: sleep in another. Room you don't interrupt someone's wonderful, nights
2:24:00
Speaker 2: leap or you know. What It's it's, tough but it's.
2:24:05
Speaker 2: Doable you just you just try. To you try to
2:24:08
Speaker 2: find a way to sleep through. It it'll take a,
2:24:10
Speaker 2: minute but you try to find a. Way you close your,
2:24:13
Speaker 2: eyes count, sheep, whatever try to find a way to
2:24:16
Speaker 2: sleep through.
2:24:17
Speaker 5: It.
2:24:17
Speaker 2: Yeah two grievances this week From. Jordan People number, one
2:24:21
Speaker 2: people who post videos of themselves. Eating try to find
2:24:24
Speaker 2: a logical reason as to why someone might find that.
2:24:26
Speaker 2: Appealing it's, nasty all, right especially the sound of it is, nasty,
2:24:30
Speaker 2: gross true with your mouths.
2:24:31
Speaker 3: Closed.
2:24:31
Speaker 2: People and then the second grievance the people on my community.
2:24:35
Speaker 2: Page you think they live In. Compton every time there's
2:24:38
Speaker 2: a loud, noise they think there's been a shooting or
2:24:40
Speaker 2: some other catastrophic. Event with the most boring states in
2:24:43
Speaker 2: The United states Of United states Of, america why my
2:24:46
Speaker 2: neighbors believe we should have regular shootings In Entuck county
2:24:50
Speaker 2: is beyond. Me so there's apparently a, person a watchdog
2:24:56
Speaker 2: neighbor that every time there's a loud noise shooting in the. Neighborhood, Again,
2:25:02
Speaker 2: nope someone slammed their. Door we still live In. Lehigh
2:25:05
Speaker 2: there's nothing a. Shooting we're An. Alpine that was just
2:25:10
Speaker 2: somebody dropping. Something, hey you know, what at least if
2:25:16
Speaker 2: the in the very rare event that there there would
2:25:19
Speaker 2: be something dangerous like that, happening at least you have
2:25:21
Speaker 2: one person who's really, alert you.
2:25:23
Speaker 3: Know, yeah but then you got a you got a
2:25:25
Speaker 3: boy who cried wolf. Situation, yeah that's a good.
2:25:27
Speaker 2: Point like an actual shooting, happens And gladys is just
2:25:30
Speaker 2: like another.
2:25:31
Speaker 3: Shooting you're, like it's not a, Shooting. Gladys you say
2:25:33
Speaker 3: this every week she calls the. Cops the cops are, like,
2:25:36
Speaker 3: okay we'll be there.
2:25:38
Speaker 2: In fourteen, hours because you keep telling us the same,
2:25:42
Speaker 2: thing all. Right also from nineteen forty, three we need
2:25:47
Speaker 2: we need to spends the update us on how his
2:25:48
Speaker 2: fight went last.
2:25:49
Speaker 3: WEEKEND i, think, RIGHT i think he was talking about this,
2:25:53
Speaker 3: Weekend oh.
2:25:54
Speaker 2: This coming with cause he actually and, unfortunately even if
2:25:57
Speaker 2: it was last, weekend he won't be able to tell
2:25:59
Speaker 2: us he's, out BUT i, think, yeah because he's going
2:26:02
Speaker 2: to a. Wedding, yeah he's gonna see this, friend AND
2:26:04
Speaker 2: i think that's what he's talking. ABOUT i think he's
2:26:06
Speaker 2: gonna see that friend that needs a good whooping at this.
2:26:09
Speaker 2: WEDDING i think was the context of that. Maybe, Yeah
2:26:14
Speaker 2: so we'll try to get an update From, spence but
2:26:16
Speaker 2: it will be Next friday and that airing of. Grievances,
2:26:18
Speaker 2: yeah and on the bright side for YOU, oc we
2:26:22
Speaker 2: have someone who's going to who's gonna on air actually
2:26:26
Speaker 2: be on your side about this sula like be's alternate.
2:26:29
Speaker 2: Identity thank, goodness last, grievance and then we'll take a
2:26:33
Speaker 2: break for crosstalk From. Adam very grateful for the warm
2:26:37
Speaker 2: weather SO i can.
2:26:37
Speaker 3: Be out golfing.
2:26:38
Speaker 2: Whoever my a grievance is When i'm waiting for a
2:26:40
Speaker 2: group on the tea box and none of the golfers
2:26:41
Speaker 2: in front of, Me i'm hitting their dang. Ball you
2:26:44
Speaker 2: don't have to play super, fast but just don't stand.
2:26:47
Speaker 2: Around another another example of the discourteous. Few these people
2:26:56
Speaker 2: also don't rewrack their, weights and they also leave their parts,
2:27:02
Speaker 2: out and they also don't tell the sandwich maker how
2:27:05
Speaker 2: to dress their sandwich.
2:27:07
Speaker 3: Before they walk out of. LINE i have never sear
2:27:09
Speaker 3: the same.
2:27:10
Speaker 2: People this might be the same ten people ruining it
2:27:14
Speaker 2: for everyone in the Wall Saide Front. Fee they're like
2:27:20
Speaker 2: super villains and we just haven't been able to identify
2:27:23
Speaker 2: them all directly. Yet hold On devil's advocate for these.
2:27:26
Speaker 2: Golfers maybe they don't have the titleist or the ping
2:27:31
Speaker 2: the QUANT i can't remember the brand with the quantum
2:27:34
Speaker 2: leaf off the top of my. Head the quantum leap
2:27:36
Speaker 2: went off the off the top of my. Head but
2:27:37
Speaker 2: maybe they maybe they're just LIKE i don't want to
2:27:40
Speaker 2: hit this ball BECAUSE i need something that makes me,
2:27:42
Speaker 2: go makes it go.
2:27:43
Speaker 3: Fast, okay well then gets taken too.
2:27:46
Speaker 2: On get off the t box and go to you
2:27:48
Speaker 2: into golf By Worldwide golf and get the Q i.
2:27:51
Speaker 3: Forty all.
2:27:52
Speaker 2: Right don't stand around talking about how you wish you had.
2:27:55
Speaker 2: It you should have listened to me on the show
2:27:57
Speaker 2: and you should have showed up at the golf course with.
2:27:59
Speaker 3: IT i won't swing anything.
2:28:00
Speaker 2: Else and Let adam From clinton have his nice golf,
2:28:05
Speaker 2: round all. Right also do something besides golf with your free.
2:28:10
Speaker 2: Time crosstalk is next and it's a special edition because
2:28:15
Speaker 2: we've Got.
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Speaker 3: Porter and we've Got Tony parks hold it down For.
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Speaker 2: Spence it's A sean O'Connell show ON espn seven hundred
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Speaker 1: You were listening to About sean O'Connell. Show it's your
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Speaker 2: Am sean O'Connell, show wrapping things up here and that
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Speaker 2: means we turn you over to the.
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Speaker 3: Drive No spence check us.
2:28:52
Speaker 2: Today porter And Tony parks holding it down for the
2:28:56
Speaker 2: next four. Hours porter's here in studio with, Us. Tony
2:29:01
Speaker 2: tony was he'll come. Back you had to take a phone.
2:29:04
Speaker 2: Call he's very, important he's very. Busy He james probably
2:29:08
Speaker 2: told him to get out of here because he didn't
2:29:10
Speaker 2: want any support from my opinion that The Utah Dirty
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Speaker 3: Opportunity he's contractually obligated on that.
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Speaker 2: One you have to help us answer an existential question
2:29:24
Speaker 2: that came upon the show, Today.
2:29:25
Speaker 3: Yes always, had you had a bunch of good ones.
2:29:27
Speaker 2: Today if You're Jack hughes and the iconic photo of
2:29:32
Speaker 2: you taken with The american flag drapped, around draped around your,
2:29:36
Speaker 2: shoulders gold medal goal freshly, scored a little blood on
2:29:41
Speaker 2: your lip and on your, sweater the most recognizable photo
2:29:45
Speaker 2: of you that will ever be taken in your. Lifetime
2:29:48
Speaker 2: you have cracked, Teeth you're missing some chick. Lits do
2:29:55
Speaker 2: you keep that signature look or do you get him?
2:29:57
Speaker 2: Fixed it's he's not gonna have to pay for. It
2:30:01
Speaker 2: TEAM usa is gonna handle, it all, Right.
2:30:03
Speaker 3: So what do you?
2:30:04
Speaker 6: Do?
2:30:04
Speaker 9: Well interesting you asked me this question is you can
2:30:07
Speaker 9: see got a little, missing like a not as much
2:30:11
Speaker 9: of my front. Tooth And i'm Not Jack, hughes to be.
2:30:15
Speaker 9: Clear AND i also didn't like have a cool gold
2:30:18
Speaker 9: medal winning story to uh to do. It But i've
2:30:22
Speaker 9: had opportunities to fix my, teeth AND i you, KNOW
2:30:26
Speaker 9: i actually even am opted into our gold standard dental
2:30:30
Speaker 9: plan here at The.
2:30:31
Speaker 3: Way, media which is, incredible by the, Way.
2:30:34
Speaker 9: And, UH i still got my my little my little
2:30:38
Speaker 9: marker for when ship from when my my late Horse
2:30:42
Speaker 9: homer decided to throw me off and and break my
2:30:46
Speaker 9: nose and break my, teeth and so there's there's a
2:30:49
Speaker 9: little story behind. It, Now i'm Not Jack. Hughes it's
2:30:51
Speaker 9: not a gold, medal but it's just part of My
2:30:55
Speaker 9: it's just part of. Me So i've kept it part
2:30:57
Speaker 9: of your.
2:30:57
Speaker 3: Experience tony parks here in studio with this as we
2:30:59
Speaker 3: wrap it.
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Speaker 2: More Tony Jack hughes scored a gold medal goal, huh
2:31:12
Speaker 2: and had an iconic photograph taken of him grinning ear
2:31:16
Speaker 2: to ear with jacked up teeth from something that happened
2:31:19
Speaker 2: in that same.
2:31:21
Speaker 3: Game it is now his.
2:31:22
Speaker 2: Signature, look it is the most memorable image Of Jack
2:31:25
Speaker 2: hughes that will ever. Exist he still hasn't had the teeth.
2:31:28
Speaker 2: Fixed it's been what six, days five? Days, uh he's
2:31:33
Speaker 2: been on a WorldWind media. Tour i'm sure like there's
2:31:36
Speaker 2: plenty of time for him if he wants.
2:31:38
Speaker 3: To but if this is, you.
2:31:41
Speaker 2: Do you get the teeth fixed or do you just
2:31:43
Speaker 2: ride with the chip, teeth because that's now The american
2:31:48
Speaker 2: hero image of.
2:31:49
Speaker 8: You oh you ride with the chip tooth for got a.
2:31:52
Speaker 8: WHILE i, mean you, know the go with the rest
2:31:53
Speaker 8: of your. DAYS i, mean you get that. Handled but
2:31:56
Speaker 8: in this next, thing it's. Iconic it's so. Iconic you
2:31:59
Speaker 8: took a shot to the. Fire she stayed. In it's
2:32:01
Speaker 8: the ultimate hockey. Thing of, course that's the other, thing
2:32:04
Speaker 8: the culture where it's totally. NORMAL i also love the
2:32:07
Speaker 8: fact that that team was outplayed soundly for so much
2:32:10
Speaker 8: of the, game got the timely plays of, goaltending got
2:32:13
Speaker 8: the timely plays of the dude's staying in the, game
2:32:15
Speaker 8: made the game winning. Goal and so for any of
2:32:17
Speaker 8: The canadians complaining, about you, know we outplayed, you it's, like, well,
2:32:21
Speaker 8: yeah and it's the goals that.
2:32:23
Speaker 3: COUNTY i, mean like, sorry, guys, Yeah LIKE i don't
2:32:27
Speaker 3: know what to tell, you but that.
2:32:29
Speaker 8: Was, honestly it was great BECAUSE i know it's the
2:32:32
Speaker 8: it happens on what the forty six year anniversary Of
2:32:35
Speaker 8: miracle On ice and all, that so such an iconic
2:32:37
Speaker 8: moment IN us hockey. History to have it happen like,
2:32:40
Speaker 8: THAT i don't, know, man that it just doesn't happen
2:32:43
Speaker 8: like that as often as as we.
2:32:45
Speaker 9: THINK i will, say having the experience, here uh you
2:32:50
Speaker 9: you've you've just been talking about from like a look. Standpoint,
2:32:53
Speaker 9: YEAH i don't care about it, really but there are
2:32:55
Speaker 9: LIKE i don't chew with my front teeth anymore because
2:32:57
Speaker 9: they're out cracked down the middle a little, bit and
2:33:00
Speaker 9: IF i get down on like anot or, something it's
2:33:02
Speaker 9: going to crack more and it gets to the nerve
2:33:04
Speaker 9: and it. Hurts it's like and With, homeboy his is
2:33:08
Speaker 9: like half his. Tooth there's no there's no way that
2:33:11
Speaker 9: it hasn't gotten to like a little bit of the.
2:33:12
Speaker 9: Nerves it probably doesn't feel good and it affects.
2:33:16
Speaker 2: You. TRY i had actually that a very similar break
2:33:20
Speaker 2: on the front tooth where it was his is kind
2:33:23
Speaker 2: of like the bottom half came off. Mine it was
2:33:25
Speaker 2: like a diagonal, Almost and absolutely the nerve is. Exposed
2:33:29
Speaker 2: but they can just put like the epoxy just over
2:33:32
Speaker 2: the nerve and dead in that. Nerve and so it's not.
2:33:36
Speaker 2: Ideal BUT i, mean, MAN I i, MEAN i DON'T
2:33:41
Speaker 2: i have fake teeth, Now so why is THAT i
2:33:43
Speaker 2: got then ears because you.
2:33:48
Speaker 3: In the face or. Something but HERE i. Was you
2:33:52
Speaker 3: were good at the.
2:33:53
Speaker 9: Sport, obviously as you have heard on The Joe rogan,
2:33:58
Speaker 9: experience you're very good at getting punched.
2:33:59
Speaker 3: In, yeah you could punch me in the.
2:34:01
Speaker 9: Face so any times that you get, tired you are
2:34:03
Speaker 9: like a having very minimal experience in that. Space you
2:34:08
Speaker 9: were like the worst opponent to come up on it
2:34:11
Speaker 9: on a. Sheet you're, LIKE i could kick this guy's
2:34:14
Speaker 9: ass and he's not going to go. Down he's just
2:34:17
Speaker 9: gonna stand in front of me and keep. Punching it's
2:34:20
Speaker 9: not the prettiest way to do, it but sometimes it.
2:34:23
Speaker 3: Worked you.
2:34:23
Speaker 8: Know you always have people in this world who, metaphorically you,
2:34:28
Speaker 8: know things hit them hard and they keep going and
2:34:31
Speaker 8: they don't give, up and it's. Nice, yeah it's a
2:34:33
Speaker 8: great story to. Tell MAYBE i could tell a few
2:34:36
Speaker 8: of those stories like. THAT i will never ever be
2:34:39
Speaker 8: able to tell the stories of like getting on a
2:34:42
Speaker 8: bronco and for eight seconds and trying to hang, on
2:34:45
Speaker 8: like there's certains we could test that.
2:34:46
Speaker 3: One, no, NO i won't. Try you could do that,
2:34:50
Speaker 3: TOMORROW i, know and you will not find me.
2:34:52
Speaker 8: Out but like, you you genuinely to play in a,
2:34:54
Speaker 8: sport and hockey players faces, too, yes AND nfl, players college,
2:34:58
Speaker 8: football whatever you college football in the actual sport where
2:35:02
Speaker 8: you step in a, ring you, know and it goes
2:35:04
Speaker 8: to like.
2:35:05
Speaker 3: You actually walked the walk in that.
2:35:07
Speaker 8: WAY i try to tell people, like there's a different
2:35:09
Speaker 8: level of respect here when it comes to you, know
2:35:12
Speaker 8: because you you. Nice there's a coach college basketball coach
2:35:16
Speaker 8: who grew up in a, dojo and he talks about, like,
2:35:19
Speaker 8: NO i try to coach my guys to understand life's
2:35:21
Speaker 8: gonna hit you in the face when you go into
2:35:23
Speaker 8: a sport, going you're gonna get. Hit you just gotta
2:35:27
Speaker 8: know how to. React and it sounds nice until it.
2:35:30
Speaker 8: Happens AND i went with a group of buddies to
2:35:32
Speaker 8: watch a fight that you were. In, No, Joe we're into.
2:35:35
Speaker 8: It i'm hoping you. Win i'm cheering you on and
2:35:38
Speaker 8: dude dropsha, boom And i'm, like, oh and then you
2:35:41
Speaker 8: tap out and you, lose but you still kept going
2:35:44
Speaker 8: and then, going and then you win a championship and
2:35:47
Speaker 8: you have a two coma. Check and the point is
2:35:51
Speaker 8: the fact that THERE'S i don't, Know i'm, like there's
2:35:53
Speaker 8: a different reality to actually getting hit in the.
2:35:55
Speaker 2: Face, well here's the thing, though the literal getting hit
2:35:59
Speaker 2: in the face and still moving forward is actually a
2:36:01
Speaker 2: lot easier than like the metaphorical getting hit in the
2:36:05
Speaker 2: face and moving forward with like losing a job and
2:36:07
Speaker 2: having to figure out after, that you, know a divorce
2:36:11
Speaker 2: or difficulties with family in any. Regard you, know, LIKE
2:36:16
Speaker 2: i would so much rather get punched in the face
2:36:19
Speaker 2: and have to keep fighting forward than to like lose a.
2:36:23
Speaker 3: Job, Right everyone's been through, that.
2:36:25
Speaker 2: Yea so it's funny because we, glorify And i'm glad
2:36:27
Speaker 2: we do because it worked out for me.
2:36:29
Speaker 3: Nicely we glorify the.
2:36:30
Speaker 2: Resilience that you can see the literal resilience you can
2:36:33
Speaker 2: see of like a hockey player continuing to play with broken,
2:36:37
Speaker 2: teeth or you, know me getting knocked down and coming
2:36:41
Speaker 2: back the next, fight or getting knocked down and then
2:36:42
Speaker 2: in the same fight still finding a way to.
2:36:44
Speaker 3: Win.
2:36:45
Speaker 2: Right we glorify that in, sport like the guy that
2:36:49
Speaker 2: gets smashed in a football game and then he throws
2:36:51
Speaker 2: the game winning.
2:36:51
Speaker 3: Touchdown.
2:36:52
Speaker 2: Whatever we glorify, that and we talk about we romanticize.
2:36:55
Speaker 2: It BUT i just want to remind people out there
2:36:59
Speaker 2: you have actually done things harder than that in your
2:37:02
Speaker 2: life already interesting like you. Have, yeah it's actually, no
2:37:06
Speaker 2: it's actually a lot more challenging to wake up the
2:37:09
Speaker 2: next day and feel like you're worth something and be
2:37:12
Speaker 2: like you want to after you've been fired from your
2:37:14
Speaker 2: job and nobody likes you, anymore, right like you got
2:37:17
Speaker 2: broken up by.
2:37:18
Speaker 3: Your, girl like all that stuff is actually a lot
2:37:20
Speaker 3: harder than getting punched in the.
2:37:21
Speaker 2: Face and people talk about getting punched in the face
2:37:24
Speaker 2: like it's the worst. Thing i've done it hundreds of
2:37:27
Speaker 2: thousands of.
2:37:27
Speaker 3: Times it's not that. Bad, yeah you. See i'm, Like i'm, like,
2:37:32
Speaker 3: Well I've i've done.
2:37:34
Speaker 8: ONE i haven't done the one you're talking, about so,
2:37:38
Speaker 8: Well i'm just GLAD i haven't had to do.
2:37:39
Speaker 3: Both, yeah you know WHAT i? Mean you know? What all, Right,
2:37:43
Speaker 3: fine you get fired from your job and your boss
2:37:46
Speaker 3: kicks your. Ass can you get punched in the. Face that's,
2:37:52
Speaker 3: bad that's a bad. Day you can lick your wounds
2:37:56
Speaker 3: in that.
2:37:56
Speaker 2: Case stay tuned for the Drive with these two, hosting
2:37:59
Speaker 2: it's definitely gonna be a fun. One thanks for listening
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