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We'll back with another one. Baby, We're gonna dive into a very solid
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few days here on the Sooner or Later Sports show. The Sooners, you
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and gifted. All right, So we've got the cavalry in here.
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We're gonna bring the gentlemen in. We've got Coop, we got Chris,
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and of course we've got a lot to talk about because guys, oh you
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was broke. We gotta talk about why O you is broke and why everybody
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else is alleging this. We gotta talk about the latest commitments. And there
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is a commitment announcement happening on Tuesday, so we gotta dive into that's gonna
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be as well as who else may commit here in May, because if I'm
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correct, we've got two, if not three people on the docket. So
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gentlemen, cool Chris, what's going on? Happy Sunday, Chris, I'll
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let you knock it out. Ch what's up, guys? What's up?
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Guys is Chris, Chris with a k here at the over Yo. General,
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y'all are here, go there. We'll leave that alone right now,
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because because today I got time. So any Texas fans that get in here,
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any Texas fans, they want to talk some stuff like I said,
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I got time, you got right now, simply because there's some broke allegations
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of all this stuff that's going on. But I'm gonna let Jay get to
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it. I'm gonna let Coop have it right now. I'll just be right
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over here waiting, Coopy man, how you hold on? Hold on second,
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I gotta count my pocket change here to help Oklahoma out. I think
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my piggie bank is huh. He means I got forty two cents. I
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got forty two cents. Let's get it going. I got three dollars.
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It looks like you're showing out there we go, there, we go,
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there, we go. Hey, I got my three dollars. I've got
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my three dollars, as Patrick would say, but no, yeah, Oklahoma's
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broke. And so we get to have some fun talking about how Oklahoma is
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you know, broke right. Shout out to the Sooners snatching up the best
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defensive lineman in the portal AFT. I think he is the best overall.
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In Dominick Williams pulling up, he decided to commit to Oklahoma. I lost
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my mind on the JP and Trash Show on Thursday Thursday night, because it
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happened while we were recording. I told all y'all that we was gonna lose
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our minds on there, and guess what, we lost our minds and our
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pets heads were falling off. It was crazy that it happened literally while we
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were having a conversation about him, and so shout out to that man.
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I'm excited for that. So I gotta we gotta go around table because we
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got to get opinions. I'll close us out, but Chris will start with
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you. Dominic commitment. What do you think that means for the sewners.
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It's huge for the sewers. It gives you an established presence right there in
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the interior. I think you know one thing that we've all glossed over.
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Hopefully this is a good point to you guys and everybody in the chat.
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But I think a good point that we've all glossed over is the fact that
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we got the best d tackle and that dtackle didn't even come from the SEC
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and we got the best d tackle out of the portal. So they should
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tell you some things right there, especially when they are LA. I mean,
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there are SEC schools going after this kid. Everybody's going after this kid.
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So it wasn't just a thing of you just want and got to get
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out of the portal. You wouldn't got the best out of the portal.
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So the other thing is is that it gives It gives guys like Stony more
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time. It gives guys like Jays and Jackson more time, but you expect
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them to be in your rotation, right. But the thing is is that
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you get to have an established guy that comes in there with uh, with
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Dajohn Terry, and I think we may see some of the best of day
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John Terry and they may not show up on the stat sheet, but with
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him being able to clog and be the the the kind of that anchor guy
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anyways for us, and letting guys like Stoney, guys like Dominique Williams,
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guys like Jane Jackson be able to get a little bit freaky, a little
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bit twitchy inside. It's it's gonna, it's gonna. We're gonna reap the
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benefits of that. So I'm definitely excited about it. I think it's a
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great move. Can't wait for him to get in there with Todd Base,
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can't wait to get for him to get in there with Smitty as well.
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But I think it's a thing that really it helps you marry what you had
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in the room already, which was we have one stab, we have an
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established guy, we have a couple of established guys, but we have a
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lot of high upside guys. Now you get to say, okay, we
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got our front end guys where we could legitimately see Terry Williams, Downs R.
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Mason Thomas, guy like that and still be able to have a lot
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of production and Willard two, you know, trace four guys like that that
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have experienced. But now you get to say, hey, you younger guys,
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we're going to really kind of you know, circle the wagon with you
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guys midway through the season, but we're gonna give you time to just really
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grow and develop as well. So I think you're gonna be h is getting
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getting him honestly to me. Is is a huge difference because it puts us
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in that conversation as saying, if everything goes right with the offensive line and
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Jackson normal, there's no reason this team shouldn't went until eleven games next year.
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No. I love that. That's a solid point to even considering the
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snap numbers that we just added. So coop adding a player like Dominic Williams,
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how are you feeling on that now that your voice is back, how
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you feeling on it? Yeah? Right, it's almost It's it's about five
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right there. Well, ESPN. You know again they're not kings to anywhere
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fruiting services, but you know they had him as the number four. I
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believe that they had Cape Procters number one, uh, you know, another
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o tackle but and then the running back from Oregon State, you know,
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Martinez and so like, and then they have him at number four. So
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but what it does is, like Chris said, it infuses experience with Lolay
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and Williams coming in. A lot of experience comes in right right from the
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get go. And I double down on that is this allows Jayden Jackson and
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David Stone a baseline of snaps as well as the rest of the defensive line
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to go out there and say, listen, guys, you don't have to
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give us four hundred snaps this year. You give us quality snaps, and
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it is quality snaps. And Jay, if I, if I may,
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if I may say, so, you know, we looked at we looked
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at a couple of things, and I've got a little Excel spreadsheet going on
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in the old computer doora. But I mean, you're looking at the second
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and third string defensive lines stronger than anything we've put out there since that brief
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little moment in twenty twenty. But then going back even to eight to where
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you've got just so many different guys who are out there. Listen, I
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don't think that Don Williams is going to come into Oklahoma and right from the
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get go be Tommy Harris, Joe McCoy like he I don't think he's like
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that extent, but he's right here, like he is right underneath it.
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And you know, I made a comment about this is sorry for going so
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long, but this takes away when you've got guys who were able and capable
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of winning one on ones and you got four D line going out there,
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you can double team one of those cats and then you're gonna have to deal
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with one on ones with the other seventy five percent of that starting the D
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line or that D line that's in rotation. Now you also got a factor
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in any blitzers at bb sins so that immediately it keeps the linebackers clean it.
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Let's Kip Kobe, Danny Kannick, whoever's out there at working. It
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lets them get to work. So what does this mean for the program?
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I think for the football part of it, it made us a lot better.
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And if you need to dig into that, and if you want us
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to dig into it, why does a top tier DT make us better?
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You haven't been paying attention for quite a long time. But I think for
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a program, it shuts up a lot of people interior and it says,
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listen, guys, we are willing to play the game when it makes sense.
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We're not gonna throw this money at every single person. We're not gonna
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throw all this money at every single opportunity that hits the portal. But Oklahoma
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does not have a piggy bank where you're counting opinions. They got, we've
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got the folks ready to go, and don't don't don't get it twisted.
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Last thing is, don't get a twisted that you saw a nice little contribution
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pop up right around that time. Because the people we are pulling strings with
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Lauren Chamberlain and everybody and some of the people speaking herre, they know where
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we need to focus that money exactly and was pointing in here. First off,
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let me give a shout out to stink ass Kat, thank you so
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much for the twenty bucks supporting the channel like you've always been pulling up man.
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We appreciate that. But oh, if oh you isn't in the playoffs
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this year, which I think they will be, they will be ranked top
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three starting next season regardless, especially with all the experience for bringing back that
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one hundred percent I agree with, so to go with both of y'all's point,
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You're exactly right. Bringing in a player like Dominic Williams gives you those
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that experience that you need and that's gonna do nothing but help the younger players.
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Fun little nuggets for you are real quick. So going into the season,
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I also had a spreadsheet going here, you know, in the little
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computer door as well. But snap wise, on the defensive line day,
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John Terry had over had three hundred and six snaps last season on defense.
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The next person closest to him on the defensive line was Grayson Halton at ninety
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one. Yea, right, and then you had Sears had eleven, Ashton
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Champ had nineteen, Marcus Strong had two, and yeah, we had nobody
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on the d line at that spot zero or three that had enough snaps.
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Dominic Williams brings in four hundred and eleven snaps. Jermaine Lola I'm sorry,
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Dominic brings in four hundred and seventy seven snaps and Jermaine Lolay brings in four
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hundred and eleven. That it, man, that's eleven hundred snaps on the
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defensive line that you're bringing in. That was just from last season, just
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last season's number for a career. Remember, Dominic started as a freshman at
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tcun He's a freshman All American. He has over a thousand snaps in his
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career in his first two years one thousand and eighty eight to be exact with
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the with some very good grades. And when they went to the National championship,
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he was graded at like a seventy on the defensive line as a freshman,
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Like, that's just stupid, right, lo Lay as mentioned in here,
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when I was on with A with JP and trave Jamar Kaine shot a
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message. The defensive line coach for the Denver Broncos former OU coach shot a
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message to not only Travis while we were on there. He jumped into chat
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and Robert points it out here. He jumped into chat and talked about how
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he loved Lola. He was at Arizona State with him. He said that,
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you know, he's a very good player. The problem with Lola was
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healthy. He just couldn't stay healthy. Well, he had a great healthy
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season last year at Louisville. Do the biggest issue that we were terrified of
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going into the SEC on the defensive line is addressed. We're good. Our
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defense is now set to be a top three defense. The secondary is where
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we need. We've got the experience at zone. We got experience at man
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that we need linebackers. Stutsman's gonna be a buck He better be a Buckets
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finalist unless he just have to screw him a second time around. Ton expects
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SEC. He'll do it. Now. We have to be lying. What
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more can you ask for? Right? I think the first four games of
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the season you have to you just have to weather the storm, meaning meaning
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you're going to play teams who are going to run a lots of tempo to
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try to counter all of that. So the whole thing is that, you
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know, Houston, Tulane, Temple, even I'm sure that they're going to
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do things to get the ball out of their quarterbacks hands extremely very quickly,
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just like you saw last year with ARC State, Tulsa teams like that.
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So you're gonna have to be ready for that. Then obviously Week four,
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Tennessee comes to town, You're gonna have to be ready for that because they're
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gonna run a lot of tempo. Of one of the things that I see
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being kind of a theme this year, especially for SEC teams. I don't
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think a lot of SC teams. SEC teams are going to run tempo necessarily
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against us, but I do think that they're going to try to get their
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play off as quick as possible because they know we like to take our time,
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we get in our places, we like to wait to see what is
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their set, you know, what are their formations. So the whole thing
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is is that I'm excited about it because I believe you're gonna have opportunity in
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the SEC to really turn a lot of their heads because teams are gonna play
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you straight up because they're gonna they're not gonna have that choice. They're not
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gonna have any other choice but to play straight up, but to play physical,
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a physical brand of football. Why, because that's how those teams are
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built. Outside of Texas. Maybe you can say Alabama if everything is churning
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there with the wide receivers for the boor in my opinion, and obviously you
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could probably put Mazoo in that category. And obviously like Tennessee we just talked
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about them. But there's not gonna be too many other teams that are not
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going to try to play a physical, very very physically imposing style of football
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against you. So you really have a chance to have a really good year
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on the edge and in the interior as well. And the biggest thing I
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want people to understand is is don't go on in the season with the expectation
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that Dominique Williams is gonna have double digit SAT so he's gonna have eight or
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nine sacks. You know, my uncle, he's a big believer in this.
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He says, hey, give me that athletic nose tackle on an athletic
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D interior D lineman. That will disrupt you to the point where he takes
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away part of your game plan, uh make. And when he does that,
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he's going to be so disruptive that you're going to say, screw running
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up the middle. We're going to try to go attack the edges. And
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if you can set the edge, you're doing that. Then you turned this
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team, turned that the opposing team into a one dimensional team. So I'm
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just so excited now. I mean, it's a great pickup, great pickup,
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say that, and that's the That's kind of the key thing here is
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showing up the spots where we need the most help. Did it as well
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as off into line. We talked about it last week. You got Branson
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Hickman at the center spot. The biggest question that we had. I mean,
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we've added tackles or whatnot, you know, you know, with to
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next to Sexton and Taylor, you added Spencer Brown who has experienced in Michigan
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State. Had Michael Tarkin who played at Florida, went to USC and now
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is here beating bow. Really liked him back before he went to Florida.
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Liked and when he got into portal at Florida. So obviously he sees something
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that he can leverage him with. But the biggest thing was losing Troy Everett
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that center spot. We got to show that up. We went and got
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one of the highest graded centers in college football. And the best part about
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all this is too we got these dudes on like one maybe two year rentals.
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And I don't think Ihasz said. I've emphasized this every video and every
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time I've talked about it, but I don't think people it's resonating with them
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thoroughly. It's not getting there. It's not getting to the brain. We're
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not alienating our own players. That's the best part. They understand, Yes,
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we could use an experienced player in here to not only help us on
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the field, but to help teach us off the field how to perform on
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the field. Having a veteran presence, that's what you need, that's what
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you got, And now we've got that, and yeah, suoer cowboy,
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I think we can get to this point. You know, Jordan didn't allow
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running touchdown for one and a half years. That's also like questions around the
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SEC or whatnot. But that type of defense, I think we can get
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to I think we can get there. And like you said, Chris,
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you know the boor, we got questions around him. The only question we
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have now is is that since for the first time you've taken a job and
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they've actually started losing some talent, some of the top tier talent, what
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does he do with the current talent there? Which I still believe that he
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had some of the best talent. I think he has a little bit better
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talented Alabama that he did at Washington. Just by Smitch, I guess the
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question is gonna be what does he do with Jalen Morroe? So, yeah,
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he doesn't. He doesn't have the the you know, the caaraderie,
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the team that's been together for two years. I think he was building that
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thing for a while, but they caught fire. Wasn't lightning bottle. They
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caught fire. The biggest thing for him, Like I, our receivers are
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the ones who really dictate how successful that office is going to be. You
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saw I'm probably gonna butcher his name, but a nunsie. I mean you
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saw how you saw what he was up there doing. It felt like every
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it felt like every route he ran he had an option to do whatever the
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hell he wanted to do once he came out of his break because I was
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I was like, I don't know where this guy is going to go because
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some of the routes. I was like, is he is he running a
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fade route or is it? Like what does he do? Yeah? So
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yeah, I mean, but I think that they're going to be really good.
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I'm really excited for that game. I'm hopeful Tigers to come to that
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one here in Norman. That's going to be pretty fun in November. Yeah,
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hopefully he's in town. We'll cross our fingers and toes that ties at
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least or able to get here. We'll find way to get that man here.
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So I think that that was a big pick up for the weekend.
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Having Dominic shows up that defensive line something that we've all been hoping for.
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Uh. We had a few portal loose portals out we saw we saw Gavin
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Freeman, our return guy, as well as quarterback General Booty hit the portal.
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Y'all know me. I had a love for General Booty. I bought
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all his shirts just to support him in the Oklahoma Children's Hospital because I thought
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that was pretty dope. He has the best name in college football, following
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the long line of Booty players of you know, John David Booty and Josh
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Boody his uncles, and saddens me that he's bounced out. Now, I
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know, you know, a few schools gonna probably give him an opportunity.
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Uh, there was no chance for him. There was no path for him
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to start here, unfortunately, and he wants the opportunity to totally get it.
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Then, Gavin Freeman's got a new home. Y'all see that. Everybody
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see the Gavin Freeman home. Chris, you see that new home for Gavin
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Freeman. I was wondering if you've sinked it. I barely sinked it.
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Gavin Freeman is a poke now, guys. He is at Oklahoma State.
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Yes, unk, I love that Booty. I'm a friend. I am
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a fan of Booty. So you want to talk about that, And do
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you want to talk about Freeman going down there? Give me talk about Freeman
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going to o State. I know there's some people I saw some people I
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put to you like this. The response was exactly what I expected from Sooner
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fans. Everybody told him good luck, Everybody thanked him for being there.
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There was a lot of good luck to you, my man. Thanks for
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being a sooner in the comments when I looked a lot of that, which
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I am very proud of us for that, because I knew that we would
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do that. I had a friend message me and say, Gavin he posted
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the clip and uh and in the group chatter and was like, oh,
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he was like, Garvin Freeman is going to uh to os u and uh.
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I think he was trying to take a dig in me. And the
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only thing that I said was, Hey, he's gonna be a smaller Dylan
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Stone or whatever. He don't. Yeah, he's gonna be one of those
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guys for you. It's like, I hope it really I do hope it
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works out for you guys. But I was like, if anybody could get
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the best out of Gavin, it would be gandhy to be honest with you,
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because he's a Gundy type of guy. Put him in that slide,
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let him work. I think once they shru up his hands a little bit
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down there, which stake will because I mean, I'm gonna be honest with
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you. Obviously I hate O issue just as much as the next person.
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But I mean one thing that I will say is, look, Gundy is
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a great developer. I mean he puts great developers or he hires great developers
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too. So I mean, I know, I have no doubt that Casey
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done and all of them will get it situated. Now, I mean,
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is it gonna look great down there? I don't know. I mean I've
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been on records saying I think, oh, you should really take over the
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Big twelve. But I don't know. I think Utah and Arizona and all
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of them have something to say about that. Yeah, but yeah, no,
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I hope. I hope Free can get get loose down there. Hey
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hey, I'm just gonna be one hundred percent real. Just like I said
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at the beginning of last year when we were talking about this new Big twelve,
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I don't care like Gavin, I hope you're successful. I hope you
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run all the jet sweeps that you can run, you know it, just
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like what can I'm gonna use it. This moment is like, listen,
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I don't hate o Su. I don't spend much time talking about Osu.
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I don't even spend any time thinking about o Su. Listen that anything oh
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you in the past, I mean since stoops, I'm just saying it this
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way. Was there ever outside of the Vince Young Texas team. Was there
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ever a team in the Big twelve that really just came up and just beat
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OU? Or was it bad roster management, bad coaching? And it was
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an OU's problem? Oh U's biggest problem. The Big Twelve has been OU.
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Hasn't been another team? Yeah, yeah, it's always been. Listen
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if you're a fan of another team, I listen. I don't hate.
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I mean, I hate Texas fans more than I hate Texas the university.
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And it's just because I just I'm looking at you and I'm like, why
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are you talking? Like why? Like where does this come from? Like
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usually a position of like authority and dominance comes from success. Where's that at?
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Like, you know, Missouri Texas fans are exactly like Missouri fans right
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now. You had a year to where you did some good things and all
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of a sudden you think that you run it. No, Like, there's
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a lot of people in the Big twelve. There's a lot of people in
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the SEC, there's a lot of people in the PAC twelve in the Big
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ten. Don't know who the hell Missouri is. Like name all the teams
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in the Big Team five out of ten fans would leave Missouri off if they
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were naming the SEC like it just would happen, they would be like,
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uh so anyway, So I just say that this is what's crazy is going
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into the season. Last year two names that we heard were stepping up to
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make a run, where Gavin Freeman and Josiah Wagner. So what does that
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mean for this team? Guys? And I'm gonna address something from earlier.
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We are loaded. There's a lot of talent on this team, and there's
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a lot of guys who want to go take their talent and put it to
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use. So now we don't have guys who don't belong in college football on
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this roster, thank you, Lincoln Riley. We got guys who can go
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play and they want to go play. So now we are just You're just
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whoever needs to go. We want to help you in Sooner Nation, we
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will say hey, we'll keep our eye on you because guess what, there's
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a lot of Twitter fans. If Gavin Freeman does anything good, they're going
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to say, hey, oh State, you're welcome. Yeah you got it.
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Yeah you couldn't do it with your own players. You have to take
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our cast offs no, and that's and that's a great point of great point.
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Me and my we we talked about that and he said, you know,
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that's the interesting thing about it is the fact that the guys that are
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portling out are not going to you know what a year or two years ago,
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so they're going to Texas State. No knock on Texas State anybody.
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But now our guys are going to you know, P five right, right,
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So I mean it's one of those things where it it makes you feel
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better. Justin Harrington, Wagner, Jeffree, you know, Gavin Freeman.
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Now you're you're saying that, Hey, now this is kind of making more
24:33
sense because you're getting to that point now where when you're shuffling players out your
24:37
replace it is not necessarily replacing, you're reloading like you're upgrading. You're upgrading
24:44
on Yeah, and listen, it started with a Gebu. You got Geb,
24:48
You've got Gavin. There's play people that left and uh who was that?
24:53
Josh Eat, you got you got guys like Key Lawrence. But at
25:00
the same time, there's not one person who left this team that were you
25:04
know, because we were talking about in one of the discord chats about like
25:08
playing potentially, Oh, you play an Oregon and God bless DG. But
25:14
throw a jump ball deep on this defense. Throw one of those underthrown balls
25:18
deep on this defense. And yeah, the secondary you're ready for that.
25:22
This secondary is ready and willing and able to go completely after that. Right
25:26
the f around and find out, you know, chat chart is in play.
25:32
And so, Chuck, you brought up the question of so we used
25:34
to call people like the only reason why you can get them is getting a
25:38
bag. That is true. We were okay with that. We were okay
25:41
with being like, listen, if you do not want to show up at
25:45
Oklahoma and win on your own accord and take what we're willing to give you,
25:49
because you're getting something in an io when you show up. We used
25:52
to be like that. But I think that Brent Vinnables realizes that you can't
25:57
live that way. You can't live that way. And we saw it with
26:02
what's the was it the uh? Who was the offensive lineman out of Tenant?
26:07
Was that Tennessee heard Liz heard Lance heard like? I think that one
26:12
taught us a lot. That was somebody that we needed. And so now
26:18
we are into the spots where like all right, if the spice is right,
26:22
let's go get somebody. Now, Don Williams was not the numbers like
26:26
four million weren't being floated out there like they were asking for some big numbers.
26:30
But those numbers never got up to the two million, three million in
26:33
legitimacy. So if you're looking back into Twitter and pull it up, I
26:37
heard that Oklahoma offered at one point nine million. Shut up, like you
26:42
know, you're reading a tweet from a person who's going, let's see what
26:47
happens by type of this. Yeah, that's not the case. So do
26:53
I want every single mercenary trying to show up at Oklahoma and being like,
26:56
hey, listen, they paying out, so let's go get it. No,
27:00
but I'm going to say this, we trust some minibles and he's going
27:03
to pick which areas we want to go after and which areas we want to
27:06
say. You know, this is good because we need somebody to come in
27:08
who is a culture person. And you saw the scriptures that the guy was
27:12
quoting, and you saw the character and you saw his mom. You know,
27:15
we talked with his coach or his handler, his agent, you know
27:18
where we think we might get him on the show, like there's some guys
27:23
doing it dead wrong and there's guys doing it right. And I really think
27:27
in the end that the coach, the handler, he wanted to do it
27:32
right and he knew that because you can't go crazy, you can't be psychotic,
27:37
because the family will see right through that. You you know, you've
27:40
got to at least have some intelligence in there. So I think the family's
27:45
happy. Obviously, Oklahoma fans are happy, and anybody who's unhappy, I'm
27:49
sorry. Yeah. No. And to add to that, you know your
27:55
coach didn't jumped in. Appreciate you coach pulling up with us. Yeah,
27:57
you've done a great job of identifying where he has a void and they're feeling
28:02
that void like that, and that's the beauty of it, right. The
28:03
biggest like you know, when I talk about the offensive line, our biggest
28:06
thing gets it's we have a lot of young guys, right, the offensive
28:10
line is very young, and we did we came into the snaps and pull
28:14
up the good old spreadsheet again. I looked at those offensive line snaps that
28:18
we had coming back, man, and it was it was uh, it
28:22
was low. It was low as far as like the total number, right,
28:26
not because I mean, we had about eight hundred, which is not
28:30
bad, but you had two dudes over three hundred and Sexton and Everett.
28:36
Outside of that, everybody was forty seven. And that's it. You know,
28:38
it was the highest afterwards, and that was Jake Taylor had forty seven
28:42
snaps. Everybody else didn't have have four snaps for the most part. And
28:48
so you bring in a Hickman who had a bunch of snaps as an offensive
28:53
lineman. Now we're gonna start seeing we'll get the experience on that offensive line
29:00
we need. Because Hickman is older, he'll be able to help teach the
29:03
young players too, and then they'll be able to move up. And so
29:07
in talking NIL, I'll give a kind of little spiel on that, right.
29:11
I think the one thing to keep in mind when it comes to the
29:14
nil stuff is this. And I joked about the Oklahoma broke. That's why
29:18
I sent that to Chris early because as we was talking about I sent Olkahoma
29:22
broke. He was cracking up. Probably fell out his chair on the mountain.
29:25
Didn't drop the baby. I hope, I hope the baby didn't fall.
29:27
Now I know he was laughing hard like for real, Oma broke,
29:30
But I mean the joke everybody was making so Oklahoma broke because we were losing
29:33
out on some of these deals. Like Coop mentioned the Lance Hurd one,
29:37
right, who ended up at Tennessee. Well. The other thing, too,
29:42
is is that we recognize who you need to pay for and who you
29:45
don't have to pay for. Right, We've seen Bill Beatenbow put together some
29:49
elite offensive lines with players that he has with finding diamonds in the rough and
29:53
getting them in and then watching them shoot up the rankings. We've seen that
29:57
recently, Right, We've seen certain players jump from no star status to three
30:03
to full high, three to four and almost five star status quickly because it's
30:07
all about identifying the talent that's gonna work for what we're trying to do.
30:10
The other thing with that is is that in a lot of those situations,
30:14
their goal is to not be as transactional as those situations. Mean. Dominic
30:17
mentioned it when he signed, you know, when he the commitment, he's
30:19
like he appreciate them being genuine. They probably tell them like, look,
30:22
man, we know you want money. Everybody wants money. How hard are
30:26
you gonna work? Like that's what we care about, right, how are
30:30
you gonna work and how are you go how much you're gonna listen to us
30:33
helping you get developed into going to the next level. If you're willing to
30:36
do that, we're willing to have a conversation. That's where things change.
30:40
And when you start looking at the players that we recruit. That's why we
30:41
recruit who we recruit on purpose. Some situations we do lose. It's recruiting.
30:48
You're gonna lose some is impossible to about a thousand. That's why no
30:52
baseball player has ever done it. We're gonna win some, We're gonna lose
30:55
some. But think about the players we go after. We always go after
30:57
specific types. That's not only gonna fit what we can do, but if
31:02
we need to pay it, Dominic shows you that's the type of player we
31:06
want to pay for. We will definitely pay for some defensive lineman. If
31:08
we had defensive line that we felt like was gonna change the game. How
31:11
do you think we got Stony? How you think we got Jay and Jackson?
31:15
Right? Daniel Koye right? Those are game changing type players coming into
31:19
this class. So why Gilmour right? You go after the ones? Okay,
31:22
I think you can you can change the game for what we want to
31:26
do, we'll pay for you. Hence, while we took a very large
31:29
offensive line Eddie Pierre Lewis, who's coming this summer, why do you think
31:33
the class that offensive last line class was so big and the defensive line class
31:37
was so big. We took our money and we threw it at those positions
31:41
because we're like, all right, we need to beef these up. Give
31:42
us some more big dudes in the trenches so that when we go into sec
31:47
we show out. So yeah, man Ebl showing up in June, the
31:52
line's gonna be I think the line would be fine. I think the line
31:53
being young, there's gonna be a lot of work and refining to do.
31:56
But having adding a hickman take a lot of pressure off the interior. The
32:01
beauty of Jackson Arnold being able to be mobile the way he is, his
32:05
ability to move in the pocket. As long as that interior is fine,
32:07
he'll figure out how to get away from it from the edges. He'll make
32:09
the edges work on his own. So can I ask you? Can you
32:14
cast? You guys have so many cecil show was pretty pretty successful in offense
32:21
as a head coach. Correct, Yeah, how many Joe Moores was he
32:24
in the finals for? Oh you're you're you're thinking? The answer is none,
32:31
there's I'm just gonna go out and whim and say it's none, Like
32:37
you can be successful without a Joe Moore competing line. And let's be honest,
32:40
the Joe Mora Award is a little bs anyway, because there have been
32:45
some lines that won the Joe More Award. And I mean, look at
32:47
us when we went in twenty eighteen, Alabama went and showed us what awards
32:52
meant. They pushed our guys absolutely everywhere. So I'll give a crap about
32:57
you know, the the This is a you know, this is a top
33:00
you know, predicted as the top ten offensive line of the nation. That's
33:04
that means nothing. One injury takes that away. One regression takes that away.
33:08
One argument in the locker room takes that one away. So what do
33:13
I want? I want guys who are willing to go out and prove that
33:15
they're not bums. I want guys who are young, hungry and willing to
33:21
compete. And I want some competitive depth in that damn room so that you
33:24
can't let some dudes get comfortable, and so what ends up happening. Iron
33:30
sharpens iron, right the tough times. Tough times make tough men. So
33:37
you got a great coach, you got great pieces. We just don't have
33:40
experience. So the whole offensive staff right now is just going, all right,
33:46
we just need to take our plan and run. And I really do
33:51
believe, I really do believe that this offensive line is going to be good
33:54
this year. Great Goodman brings us two thy four hundred and thirty six stems
34:05
nine hundred and fifty two last year, because that's when you ran that you
34:08
know, pretty fast offense. He brings us nine hundred and fifty two snaps
34:14
and with him, you know Sexton got you got you a good four hundred
34:20
snaps. So you're bringing in a lot of big experience. I'm excited about
34:23
that. Chris the I think one thing that we are overlooking, and it's
34:30
something definitely wanted to talk about sueing on the pot pretty soon, is the
34:36
fact that, look, Seth latreill Man is a different coach than Levy right,
34:39
and I think that he's going he may end up having a better grasp,
34:44
a better understanding of game flow and not making us go out there and
34:50
not letting us go out there and have fifty second drives and things like that.
34:54
And don't get me wrong, when Levy was aggressive, that was when
34:58
he was the best. But I feel like watching watching a lot like I
35:04
gotta tell people all the time, Jay, you know I've said this.
35:06
Cook, You've heard me say too. Go watch the Mason Fine highlights,
35:09
Go watch go watch Jason Mean highlights. Go watch North Texas highlights. When
35:15
self Latrell was there and the office was extremely, extremely aggressive, they wanted
35:22
to get up and down the field, no play was wasted. So I
35:27
think the whole day that people need to understand is that he's gonna be He's
35:30
gonna come in here and the office is gonna look as similar, but they're
35:34
gonna they're going to I think he's gonna have a better feel for the game
35:37
and he's not gonna be stubborn and try to say, hey, no matter
35:42
what we're doing, get everybody's in the line so we can run the same
35:45
play three times. We're not doing any of that anymore. No play is
35:47
gonna be wasted people. I think people are gonna be really really happy with
35:52
what they get with Self Pa Traill as an offensive coordinator. Pleasantly surprised is
35:58
what everybody's going to be. The pleasantly surprised fabat you way who brings you
36:01
seven hundred and thirteen snaps. Also, right, he's an award winner.
36:06
He's an award He's an award winner. Hatchet's an award winner. And uh
36:12
and and uh oh for the Hickman. I mean, like these guys are
36:16
all really good. So that's what I'm saying is like Sexton, a lot
36:20
of people believe as the next one of the next guys in line. Right,
36:23
you've got Hatchet's going to be healthy here in June. You've got you've
36:29
got Hickman comes in and he's a baller. Like you've got five or six
36:32
pieces on this offensive line that you're like, this is great, this is
36:36
great stuff. We still have what is today may fit happy Sinco de Mayo,
36:40
and happy birthday to my beautiful daughter tomorrow. But we have still a
36:46
good amount of time more folks getting healthy and coming in ready to rock.
36:52
So like, let's just back off on the offensive line because it didn't look
36:57
good in February. Well, yeah, I mean that's the thing is is
37:00
that when you bring in and you look at all of the the collective of
37:07
transfers that we've brought in, and I put to you like this, I
37:12
see beating boat taking molding all these players and put it together the way we
37:17
needed to be done. I think it'd be fine. Like I said,
37:20
we got wai Wu, who was a freshman All American first conference. He
37:24
was really good. Adding him Gary Hatchett, who's only that award winning line
37:29
who's getting healthy. He'll be back like the offensive line. It's kind of
37:34
like we felt like about wide receivers last year. We talked about this numerous
37:37
times. We talked about the wide receiver room. A little nervous about that.
37:40
Now we have no reason to be. But let's move on to this
37:45
next thing though real quick. Hey, have y'all recognized portal's over? We
37:51
real lose nobody. Chris alluded to this in the beginning, right he talked
37:54
about He pointed out, how you know when you saw people going into the
37:58
portal, wasn't too many? Told y'all that didn't I told y'all, And
38:01
I didn't think that we was gonna really lose anybody that's gonna change the game
38:05
for us, because I think a lot of these kids want to see things
38:07
through. Now did Josiah Wagner leave? I had a funny feeling about it,
38:13
only because he was falling in the depth chart. He just couldn't stay
38:15
healthy. Like you know, Chris mentioned this. He was getting ray reviews
38:22
in the fall. Then you he played seven games, but he was nicked
38:25
up, didn't really finish. Now he had to go ahead and roll out
38:30
Freeman. Made sense because you bring in to Dion Burks. Freeman was supposed
38:35
to try to move into that student's position. I think Burk's has got that
38:37
for the next year, maybe two. If he sticks around for two,
38:42
what basket healthy? What basket healthy? And then basket healthy? That's good?
38:47
Lord throw out two and a quarter seventeen times. Geez Louise, we
38:52
don't even talk about him, and like he's the lost soul because he took
38:55
one of those pt pwo in ils And I mean, this cat is just
39:02
I mean, he's like a smaller, faster Tim Tebow type of an athlete,
39:07
and he is just a freak of nature. And I'm excited for him,
39:12
sorry about him getting healthy. And then so why that the way this
39:17
team is looking a lot of these kids, it feels like they just want
39:20
to see it through again. I'm gonna say this again so we have it
39:23
on record every time I talk about this. The only time I'm concern is
39:27
December. I think in December we'll see a little bit of an exodus.
39:30
But I don't see anything right now. I think that this is that we
39:34
where everybody wants to see where there's where they're at, and they're gonna see
39:37
what it looks like in the SEC. They may get excited to decide December.
39:39
Shoot, I want to stay in rotation because the even better thing for
39:43
them is staying healthy is just as important, especially once you try to go
39:47
pro man. You want to you want to save those snaps as much as
39:51
possible that you can survive the grind of the NFL, and the SEC is
39:55
a grind man. It's a bunch of muscular dudes leveling folks. So besides
40:00
that, gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, how y'all fel y'allin were
40:13
ready for the SEC? Chris, how are you feeling? You have definitely
40:19
think that we're ready for SEC. And look what I'm about to say can
40:22
be said for any team really put that disclaimer out there. But when you
40:25
look at the schedule, man, as we get closer and closer to the
40:29
season, I'm thinking, man, this schedule could be the biggest gunlet that
40:36
we've had in a while, but it can also be the biggest dud as
40:38
well, because so true, there's some teams on this schedule that you're just
40:45
like, hell, South Carolina may end up being a harder game than going
40:49
to Old Miss, to be honest with you, just because Auburn may end
40:52
up being the game that we thought, Okay, well that's that's the Missou
40:55
game. It's gonna kind of throw us back into that rivalry because of everything
40:59
is went down with with Narry and Green and all the stuff that they've been
41:02
throwing back and forth on Twitter like some idiots. But the whole thing is
41:07
is that you're sitting there just like wow, like you know, there's some
41:13
teams on here that could end up slipping. And I think that every year
41:15
I have a funny feeling about about a team about how season is gonna go.
41:20
I usually trust my gut on it, and this year I just don't
41:23
think Old Miss is gonna live up to the hype to be honest with you.
41:27
I remember when Brett Huntley was there at UCLA and told my uncles say,
41:30
I don't know, man, I know everybody's happy with him and Jim
41:34
Moore, I just don't see it. And ever since then, I've always
41:36
trusted my gut because there's one team that I'm sitting there saying, I don't
41:40
know. Last year it was Tennessee. So I mean, biggest thing is
41:44
is that taking three games at a time. I think that you got your
41:46
guys. I think that you have the perfect done cuns And no, it's
41:52
not perfect. I think, let me say, semi perfect, noncomfortence guy.
41:57
I would have loved for us to be able to have somebody in there
42:00
that was like, you know, you know, top dog, you see
42:05
you know something like that, like yeah, you know, something like that.
42:07
But at the end of the day, it is what it is.
42:08
But we have Tulane, right, Tulane is going to even though they probably
42:15
lost a lot, and you know, there's still gonna be the same stingy
42:17
team and it's a leftover talent from the old head ball coach who was at
42:23
Houston. Houston's gonna come here and I guarantee they're gonna have some really interesting
42:29
concepts for us simply because of him. So I think everybody is respects him
42:35
as a coach and I respect the product that he left down there at TU
42:38
Lane. Should we beat both teams bout thirty? Yes, but I think
42:42
that you have a chance to going walking there with four legitimate games to be
42:46
able to say is jackson Ole that guy or not? Right? But I
42:52
think that the offensive line issues will be fixed because guys are gonna be healthy,
42:55
and you have so much talent in that room. I think this is
42:58
the most talented room that Beating the Ball has had in a few years.
43:04
Last thing I'll add defense, man, I mean, you're returning so much
43:07
of your production and you just added Winyu Wilkins. If everything stay stands as
43:13
it is, you're going to get all the production of the world from from
43:16
that front. Seven. I'm so excited to see what zach Alli does with
43:20
them, because guys, I challenge you again, go watch Jacksonville State highlights.
43:23
Man, That defense was electric and people were moving. And the thing
43:28
is is that I think that he's gonna come in and give beat him,
43:32
give BV the chance to actually be the CEO instead of being the DC.
43:38
So I'll leave it at that because I'm not gonna take shots. And you
43:42
know who of course, right right right. We try to keep it up
43:45
family friendly, I guess, I guess we can call it that. I
43:47
don't know, but Coach didn't made a good mention. Oh Miss is loaded
43:51
with who they picked up and me and PG talked about this on his show
43:54
Video should drop I think sometime tomorrow about oh Miss and kind of how how
44:00
loaded they are and who they brought in, which is good the top heavy,
44:02
right. The question is what does it look like when you get to
44:06
the twos and if you have to go and dip into your threes, especially
44:08
if you're running the right type of tempo, you can run some of those
44:10
dudes off the field. I think we have the depth and the conditioning because
44:15
of Schmidty to be prepared for people to try to run us off the field,
44:20
which that's the only thing I care about. As long as we're nicely
44:22
conditioned, which they're gonna give be nicely conditioned this summer, we can keep
44:27
that consistency. I think we are gonna be fine. Cool. Sec ready
44:31
confirmed, yes, yes, I mean we're sec ready. The teams SEC
44:37
struggles that we have had have been playing ridiculously good teams in the playoffs forty
44:44
five minutes from their house. Like I was just looking in the twenty night,
44:47
you know when we played Bama, they have eleven guys go get drafted,
44:52
you know, looking at the first round and just freaking gave it up
44:54
on LSU because I mean, they got Joe Burrow, who had one of
44:59
the greatest college ever, and Justin Jefferson, who he's kind of good in
45:02
the NFL. So we'll go ahead and say that he's pretty good his job,
45:06
and you know, not to mention other kids, but but no,
45:09
it's listen, the the SEC. What makes the SEC tough is you've got
45:16
the fertile recruiting ground. So when you've got guys at Ole, miss Mississippi
45:22
State, you know, Tennessee. You know, even their backups are bigger
45:27
guys. They may not have the skill set to ever do anything, but
45:31
they're bigger people. So instead of playing your offensive lineman pushing around two hundred
45:36
and forty two and fifty pounds defensive lineman, you're throwing your you're pushing around
45:39
two ninety three ten And that's what it is. So that's why we really
45:45
really focus on the depth as a massive necessity for this team. Is it's
45:50
not the fact that you know, you take five of our best defensive linemen
45:54
and say, you know what, these guys are just they're not strong enough
45:58
to put a full year in. There's no SEC team that has four good
46:01
defensive linemen and they just they they can't a right there and they're successful.
46:07
You got to have a rotation, You've got to have bodies coming in.
46:09
You got to have somebody to step in when you're one of your number one
46:14
guys is nursing an ankle or a shoulder or a pinky finger or something like
46:17
that. So when it comes to the rest of the SEC, yeah,
46:22
I think that Ole Miss that's a mercenary team. When have we seen this
46:28
work one time? Never? And they got to they got a receiver transfer
46:34
that's pretty good. But Quinn Shawn Jenkins one of the best running backs in
46:38
college football, and he bounced, he said he's out. So I think
46:44
that what you know with coach didn't you're talking about how old Mace is top
46:49
heavy. It's still Jackson Dart Like we've seen Jackson Dart be really, really
46:54
good and really really you know, so there's not a there's not a quarterback
46:59
in the sect of right now that I'm like, I'm a little worried about
47:01
that guy. He is. He is a guy that has all the potential
47:08
in the world, but he kind of I don't know, it just it
47:15
just feels like he never really will ever hit that ceiling. Right. It
47:20
looks he just he plays underneath the ceiling. He never will go up and
47:23
above and burst out of that. Last thing I'll say about Old Miss since
47:28
we're just talking about them, Pete Golden still there. So I mean at
47:31
the end of the day, I don't because you know, three four games
47:36
before they play us, they'll go out there and have the best looking defense,
47:38
and they'll come out there and he's got Key Lawrence at playing edge.
47:43
I mean, I don't know. I'm just I don't know what he's going
47:45
to do. Jay with with what you just said. Yes, and somebody
47:51
brought up Key Lawrence earlier. Key Lawrence left Oklahoma because he did not see
47:55
a path with him being on the field. We know what Key Lawrence was.
48:00
Key Lawrence still is that guy, and Key Lawrence sure is hell ain't
48:04
going to Old miss to become a better defensive player like he is going to
48:07
be who he is, right, we can all we can all agree on
48:12
that one. Now, I want to roll up to one thing, Cook
48:15
to burden. Jay. When we were talking about the depth of safety and
48:20
the just the innate desire to go put your hands on folks, what did
48:25
you say about early in the games in the SEC when we were at the
48:30
spring game. Oh yeah, so I sense that you're gonna see a whole
48:35
bunch of personal fouls. You're gonna see some uh some not uh not ejections.
48:43
Uh, but you gonna see some people get hit. Just to you
48:45
know, set the tone. It's gonna be that don't come across my middle.
48:49
Yeah, don't we always tell We always tell Chris, don't be so
48:52
extra right. That's one of the things we said Chris all the time.
48:58
But I'll say this is Cook to Burden. There's going to be a time.
49:05
Listen. There's a lot of frustration with Missouri from the coaching staff.
49:08
It's it's more mature from the coaching staff and the and the team, you
49:13
know, outside of Twitter. But I promise you, Burden if he has
49:17
a good game when we play Missouri. He is going to have to earn
49:22
every single ounce of it because he is going to have he's going to have
49:27
a bracket, and he's going to have people hitting him. When we played
49:30
Kansas last year, I said, go out to Kobe and you make him
49:34
tackle you three, four or five times, and we'll see how engaged in
49:37
the game he is because he's got to actually mix it up. Guys,
49:44
Burden. I I don't want Burden to be hurt, but there's not going
49:47
to be somebody who doesn't receive a message from this business decision is Hank just
49:52
pointed out for exactly exactly the business decisions on the field, They're gonna look
49:58
at that that those though come across in the middle of somebody getting the head
50:00
knocked out, like oh yeah, I'm gonna I have to you know,
50:07
yeah, keep my hands back. So but with that, let's uh,
50:09
let's let's let's let's let's get ready to wrap this thing up. We've got
50:14
commitment coming up on Tuesday. It was announced recently. One commitment that's got
50:20
your boy excited. It's gonna be our guy. Tristan Haynes the corner out
50:25
of Carl Albert six Georgia was heavy on him, and so was Notre Dame.
50:35
Notre Dame was definitely wanting him. And he has updated let me pull
50:40
him up. He has it set to where he will be going. He'll
50:45
be committing on the seventh, which I'm gonna share that for y'all. Now,
50:52
look, I know, you know I talk about, you know,
50:58
some recruits that we gotta have. We gotta have this dude. He's a
51:01
lockdown corner. He's one of those corners that when he's out there, he
51:07
he he puts pressure on kind of like we saw with Courtland Guillery if you
51:10
watch the film on him, if you watch when I did the video on
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his commitment, Courtland likes to get his hands on people right there at the
51:15
line of screamage and make you decide how and tell you where you're gonna go.
51:20
That's also how Haynes plays the game. And we we we do definitely
51:24
need to lay hands on him. So I'm gonna give it to the guys.
51:28
Coop, Chris, how are you feeling about this guy? Yeah,
51:31
I think we got a chance of pulling this one in. I think,
51:37
I mean, yeah, you know, if I did predictions, I would
51:39
say this one's a lockdown. This just is the I've had I've had conversation,
51:46
yes exactly, I've had conversation with a couple of different of our you
51:51
know, uh pro uh you know people that we like, the other insiders
51:55
across the across the state. And you know when you look at gilroy and
52:01
you look at Tristan Haynes, they're big guys. How many times have we
52:06
been tossing out a five to nine guy against a six to five guy and
52:08
he is just you know, Johnny Wilson just caught another ball the other day,
52:14
you know, against our defensive backs. I don't know how many times
52:16
I saw Broyles running just you know, saw the back of his jersey.
52:22
I still see it. And so yeah, this continues to go with size,
52:27
because when you are a little bit bigger, you can be half a
52:30
step slow and still be in position. You could be half a step off
52:35
and still be in position. This continues, you know, the trends one
52:40
of bringing in Oklahoma guys. Two having a plan and sticking to the plan,
52:45
and number three not giving up. I mean there was a time where
52:49
Tristan Haynes was you know, his eyes were golden domed and we continue to
52:54
just not panic and keep after it. So yeah, let's keep it going.
52:59
This is this is terrific because whenever at cornerback is six pot plus.
53:05
I'm happy, Chris, you saw this. Man seems like well, I
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was gonna say it, seems like a valid guy. You know. Valla
53:14
definitely likes those physical, you know, tall dbs, especially from his days
53:20
seeing him at at Alabama. That's all he has, especially in those playoffs.
53:23
Right. The biggest thing is is that recruiting Oklahoma very well, Recruiting
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Oklahoma very well. I think the biggest thing is is to keep doing that
53:35
and keep getting your best because if you're getting the best in your state,
53:37
then that that means something. And these kids, uh, these these these
53:45
what was the twenty four to twenty five different things like that, Like you
53:47
have, Man, Oklahoma is rich with some talent right now, and so
53:52
it's great to see that be prioritized and all of that as well. But
53:54
the kid, I mean, those Carl Aver kids out there doing amazing things.
53:59
Man, they're doing with really amazing things. I got a question for
54:04
you, just as a side note, just a side question, is is
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Nick's going to Carl Albert or is he staying at Douglas. I believe he's
54:13
still at Douglas. I haven't heard anything about him transferring to transferring schools,
54:17
but I mean, have you have you heard something? No? I mean
54:22
that the rumor was was that Douglas was kind of a pit stop for some
54:28
odd weird reason, and c A. Carl Albert for football was was the
54:35
what's going to be the thing? So I don't I really don't know.
54:37
I mean, that's kind of what the world was around town. But I
54:43
haven't heard anything else that could really back that up. And that was months
54:45
and months ago, so yeah, yeah, that's a good question. I
54:49
haven't heard anything about him. I haven't heard about him saying that he was
54:53
well, yeah, an article came out made second saying that I'm committed to
54:59
him oping Douglas football program turned around, So it doesn't sound like he's going
55:04
anywhere. So no nickings there to add to all the talent there at CARLAUERD.
55:09
But shoot, Tristan and them probably gonna be going for a third championship
55:13
playing like this now. I don't know who the quarterback is at Carlavert.
55:15
After Sperry decided to go back home, the family thought it made more sense
55:19
for them to be back there, you know, with mom commuting back and
55:22
forth. But as y'all can see, Hayes can play, right He's yeah,
55:31
man's can play and he's one of those that you gotta have. We
55:37
have to win this one now, which I think we do some of the
55:38
deal. I think Tuesday we get the third Carl Libert player to come to
55:44
Oklahoma, and yeah, wrap this bad boy up. So I think the
55:49
last one is Uga Moora, the offensive lineman out of Elgin, Oklahoma,
55:57
transferred in from North Carolina. I believe it's military base because I mean,
56:02
if you're elegent, is right outside of Lotton, and so you know their
56:06
program is definitely growing. I believe that he's most likely that's why he's there.
56:12
I know that he has a commitment on the twenty first, and I
56:15
think that's the only one that's left for in state players that were players that
56:22
we're going after. I think that's the last one for me, am I
56:24
missing anybody. I think that's it. Yeah, I think that's it.
56:34
I think that's it. I think that's it. Well, that's going to
56:37
add to the class. Right now. Oklahoma is sitting at I know everybody's
56:40
probably curious about rankings. Two four seven has us sitting at six with our
56:46
fourteen commits, right behind Clemson, usc LSU, Ohio State and Notre Dame.
56:53
I don't think anybody's gonna pass Notre Dame for a while until they start
56:59
seeing decommit mines. And then on three has us at twelve. And I
57:04
believe Rivals has us rated in like the top ten. So once again,
57:10
we'll finish, we keep this up, we'll finish with another top ten class.
57:16
For Yeah, we're number four at Rivals, so four at Rivals of
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twelve at on three. It's crazy with these discrepancies, and six at two
57:25
four seven, just twelve, Jeffy had us. We got we got a
57:35
little bit on the three minutes to go. I got a little I got
57:37
a little rent to go on. Go ahead, ran my palm, polo,
57:44
let me check off the list. Okay, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
57:46
A few years ago, I got into a Texas Twitter space. Okay,
57:50
I went in there. I wanted their gun ho. I walked in
57:52
there, looked like Drew ski on that one man. You know. I
57:54
walked in there, a I said, what's happening. I'm standing on business.
58:00
What do we doing today? So anyways, I got in there and
58:04
I was told that Oklahoma was poor, Oklahoma was a poverty program, Oklahoma
58:10
was a billion dollars in debt because our Joe C and our head administration had
58:17
made boneheaded decisions. I was told that once nil becomes a real life thing
58:23
in the n C Double A, that Texas players would stay home, Texas
58:29
would be able to close the doors on the state and they wouldn't have players
58:31
leak out, and that OU would now be the would be behind Texas A
58:38
and M and Texas for getting players, and that we would become SMU,
58:45
the TCUs, the Baylors. I mean, y'all want me to stop,
58:50
Y'll want me to get good. So I was told that we will become
58:53
those types of schools. I'm rere to tell you now, Texas people,
58:59
I was some of them are around. Some of them am around right now,
59:02
and they know why. But I'm just saying, oh, you ain't
59:06
broke, and we ain't never been broke, and we may just have more
59:09
buddy, they'd love it. Hey, So, and my opinion goes this
59:20
far with people, right, Oh you reported sixty million dollars in contributions to
59:28
the athletic department in twenty twenty two before we started to let's up this two
59:34
hundred million dollars in revenue in twenty twenty two. Like the internet's there,
59:40
you're using the damn thing to go on Twitter. Guys, don't interact with
59:45
Missouri, USC and Texas. Why, I mean, unless you like with
59:50
people. Yeah, if you just want to fight, just have ad it.
59:54
But if you are literally hurt by anything one of these three programs say
59:59
it's the reason why they're coming after it is number one. Missouri, I've
1:00:02
already made my like have to count. You don't know who the hell they
1:00:06
are, but USC and Texas are teams that should be traditionally much much better
1:00:13
than they are and they're not. So when you can't get better and you've
1:00:16
been Texas's back for a decade, what do you do. You got to
1:00:22
bring everybody to you since you can't catch up to them. And that's that's
1:00:24
the fan base. Plus, anytime that you say something about Oklahoma, like
1:00:30
putting out a top twenty five when you're some random random dude and people are
1:00:35
like, you left Oklahoma out? He did it so that you would say,
1:00:38
hey, you left Oklahoma out because it just helped him. So just
1:00:43
ignore it, don't jump in there because all these jackwagons that are bringing this
1:00:49
heat at OU on Twitter, all they want is more recognition. So and
1:00:53
as a USC fan, listen, I think that the twilight on Lincoln right,
1:01:00
it's over. We are a better program. We are looking like a
1:01:06
better program for a long time. We have top five classes back to back
1:01:10
years. Jay, I do hate your opinions, but USC, now,
1:01:17
if you, if you and your fan base really just want us to let
1:01:22
you know what's what's gonna happen again this year, don't be mad at us.
1:01:25
We're just telling you what's about to happen. Like when it's Texas,
1:01:30
when I'm telling them what's about to happen. It's so that they understand that
1:01:34
they still suck. You know who you are, and I'm pretty sure that
1:01:39
you're happy that you know, uh, what's his name still not there?
1:01:44
But with Lincoln, at least they're at least you've got an opportunity. Now,
1:01:47
I think this year you're gonna you're gonna have a root awakening and it's
1:01:52
gonna be tough. But I don't hate USC anymore. But when OSU fans
1:01:58
and Missouri fans and Texas fans are hepen at it. Listen, man,
1:02:01
I don't take I don't take financial advice from homeless folks. I'm not going
1:02:05
to take winning advice from people who can't do it. That's fair. And
1:02:09
Roger, I'm kind of a little different the coop on that. I think
1:02:13
I'll be fine, especially bringing in that defensive line coach from UH from U
1:02:16
c l A. Yeah, I think that was a that was I just
1:02:22
I just thought that was a great hire. Rafinitely. Man, It's just
1:02:25
crazy that they This is like at the UH basically right after the height of
1:02:31
COVID, and I was told all these days and I was just like,
1:02:35
man, I was like, we're still here as low and and and what
1:02:42
I'm hearing is that And as we wrap up with a little USC top on
1:02:45
my guy, Roger here, I'm hearing that Riley isn't involved in any of
1:02:50
the defensive side. He's really stepped away and hasn't said what type he wants.
1:02:52
He's like, do your thing, you guys will be fine. Now.
1:02:55
I think that was one problem we had here was Riley had his hands
1:03:00
a little too far into both sides. It wasn't CEO. And then of
1:03:05
course Aaron Donald pulling up and helping out everything, does you know, help
1:03:07
a lot as well. I think they'll be fine. Huh tackling that's really
1:03:13
mature for Riley. Yes, he got out of it. He stepped back.
1:03:16
He said, defense, do you think let me let me just let
1:03:21
me be a better CEO slash oc by letting the defense just the entire side
1:03:25
of boldy petties, kind of like Dabbo did when he had venables. That's
1:03:30
a huge to me. Step uh, step forward. I think y'all will
1:03:36
be fine. Y'all will be just fine. In the big team. You
1:03:39
gonna be able to compete because I mean big ten. Technically, all you
1:03:43
got is what Michigan and Ohio State. That's really it, Michigan State.
1:03:50
You guys don't have to play with your line in that game either, so
1:03:52
it's just seven on the side their whole roster. Key, dude, did
1:03:58
y'all say, you know Vandermark hit the portal of you? Yeah? And
1:04:02
yeah yeah Chris, Yeah, Chris, the dude that we thought that we
1:04:05
were gonna land. They decided to go back to Michigan State. He's in.
1:04:10
Yeah, and listen, if what if Vandamark comes here and says I
1:04:17
want nothing, I'll walk on and do anything. I think we look at
1:04:20
Vanda Mark if Mark, If vand Mark wants to have a conversation, we
1:04:26
say new phone hoodis because we already you. We we we went after you
1:04:31
and you chose to stay there. And now you realize, oh well maybe
1:04:36
maybe not. I mean, we need him, but at the same time,
1:04:41
we don't need more promising future talent. We need if the portal guys
1:04:45
were gonna take are short term rentals with good experience, and he doesn't add
1:04:49
experience to our team. Yeah, and that's what that's what we've done best
1:04:54
at I keep pointed out, we do a really job of taking experien its
1:05:00
rentals that will help us get the young guys up and running. Because that
1:05:03
twenty four class, man, I'm telling y'all, the twenty four class feels
1:05:06
like twenty three and twenty four feels like the BB classes that he wanted,
1:05:11
especially on the old line in twenty four. That twenty four class was a
1:05:14
trenches pick up that they desperately wanted to build the depth needed to be successful.
1:05:19
So I think we'll be fine. All right, Chris, let people
1:05:21
just want to find you. Huh, go ahead, Hey, hold on,
1:05:25
I just want to point this out. We were talking about USC schedule.
1:05:29
Guys. It's going to be tough to start the year and then you
1:05:31
might catch something a little bit further down because you start the year off with
1:05:34
LSU. Please be then I would love for you to beat him, but
1:05:40
LSU and then two games laters in Michigan State and Utah States between there,
1:05:44
and then you got Wisconsin. So the first four games are going to be
1:05:47
paramounts and we get to see maybe a new opportunity for Riley to become an
1:05:54
actual head coach or if he's bouncing because I think that LSU, Utah State,
1:06:00
Michigan, Wisconsin start your season off in a new conference and it's at
1:06:04
Michigan, so it'll be uh, it'll be fun. It's gonna be fun.
1:06:14
So Chris, lets people know to find you. Hey horns Down podcast
1:06:17
on YouTube. Obviously, Hey Chris with a underscore, k Chris with an
1:06:23
underscore k Okay, casey hu you guys know the rest. Then at the
1:06:27
horns Down Pod on Twitter. So both of those are are the Twitter handles
1:06:30
and you can find us at the horns Down podcast too, So yeah,
1:06:35
Chris, have you looked at the back of a quarter before said look here,
1:06:41
I'm gonna oom in. It's that's all it is. It's just that
1:06:45
it won't show, it won't show peace.