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INTERVIEW: Dystany Spurlock On Being The First Black Woman To Race In Nascar, Career Journey, Struggles & Staying On Track + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day.
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  Speaker 2: Up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You don't finish for.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Morning.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God we
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  Speaker 4: are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Laura Rose is here as well.
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  Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the buildings, indeed, Destiny
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  Speaker 4: spur a Lock Welcome.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. Here are you feeling this morning? I feel good.
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  Speaker 5: It's not too early, so we feel good. You got
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  Speaker 5: throw up? No, why would I have to throw up?
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you have to throw up?
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  Speaker 6: Because the article where you were about to do your
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  Speaker 6: debut your race and you turned it was like, I
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  Speaker 6: think I'm about to throw up.
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  Speaker 5: That's hilarious because I was so nervous, Like that was
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  Speaker 5: my debut and I've worked so hard to get to
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  Speaker 5: this point. So it's like I'm here finally and it's like, okay, nervous,
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  Speaker 5: but once I get in the karme good.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was trying to tell everybody was pregnant.
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  Speaker 6: Your coach, Phil Horton, he was saying, how like that
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  Speaker 6: moment showed him how special you were because you you're
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  Speaker 6: so accomplished, but you're still nervous in the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, People that don't know she was the first black
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  Speaker 4: woman to race in NASCAR Motorsports racer And how did
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  Speaker 4: you get into racing and your love.
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  Speaker 5: Of cause it's my parents' fault, I would say. At one,
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  Speaker 5: before I could even walk, they got me a Barbie jeep.
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  Speaker 5: So I was like, okay, this is cool. I turned three,
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  Speaker 5: I got on the back of the motorcycle with them,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, I think I'm gonna do something
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  Speaker 5: like this. My grandfather is the one who introduced me
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  Speaker 5: into NASCAR at like an early age six twelve somewhere
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  Speaker 5: up in there, and I was like, I want to race.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't think it was really going to happen. Fast forward.
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  Speaker 5: I started drag racing motorcycles because of my godfather, and
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  Speaker 5: then I was like, okay, we can really take this
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  Speaker 5: to the next level. All these opportunities came for me
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  Speaker 5: to be able to race a Nascars, but they all failed.
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  Speaker 5: But now we're here, so it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that was a fast story. I know it took
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  Speaker 1: longer than that, but that was.
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  Speaker 4: So let's talk about some of the pitfalls that you
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  Speaker 4: had to go One being black, two being a woman.
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  Speaker 1: So break those dewns.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, So as you know, like you said, it's so
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  Speaker 5: many things that you can say I have against me
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  Speaker 5: because so superpowers they are. I love that. To be
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  Speaker 5: able to get into NASCAR, you kind of have to
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  Speaker 5: be born into it or you have to have a
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  Speaker 5: lot of money. So I didn't have either those. So
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  Speaker 5: I literally had to figure this out as I'm going.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I've had teams that said, hey, come on,
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  Speaker 5: let's do it, and then things fall through. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: just glad I never gave up because I promise you
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  Speaker 5: it was times where I'm like, forget it, but I
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  Speaker 5: kept going. So that's was my perseverance.
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  Speaker 2: Being the first is always celebrated, but does it ever
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  Speaker 2: feel like extra pressure?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 5: I love that. Everybody asked me that do I feel pressure?
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  Speaker 5: I don't because being the first was never my focus.
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  Speaker 5: It was me doing something that I love. I just
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  Speaker 5: happened to be the first and had a great team
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  Speaker 5: with me to make it happen.
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever look up to anybody in the NASCAR world,
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  Speaker 3: motorsports world, anything like that?
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  Speaker 5: So when I was little, Dale Earnhardt was my go
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  Speaker 5: to because that was my Poppy's favorite, you know. And
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  Speaker 5: then I love the DuPont card that what's his name,
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  Speaker 5: Jeff Gordon was in because it was colorful, so many kids.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna do that, but yeah, that's
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  Speaker 5: really it. Growing up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel like people talk down to you or
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  Speaker 4: feel like you don't know the business as well, especially
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  Speaker 4: being in race card is that happened a lot.
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  Speaker 5: All the time, and I think they look at it
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  Speaker 5: because I'm new in this space. But I've been in
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  Speaker 5: the motorsports industry for over seventeen years and the first
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  Speaker 5: thing that someone ever told me when I first got
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  Speaker 5: into this space was learn the business and know the
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  Speaker 5: business before you get into it. So I know both sides.
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  Speaker 2: And you was a truck driver, yes, I.
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  Speaker 5: Still got my CEO. Yeah that's right.
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  Speaker 2: You could drive the big joints.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a kW which is a Kenworth and a Peterbilt.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah. I actually was a flight attendant before that.
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  Speaker 5: Stop being a flight intendant because I'm like, I can't race,
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  Speaker 5: so but it's good money. Then I got my CDO
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  Speaker 5: so I can do both. I was with Delta Air.
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  Speaker 5: I was adulta too.
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  Speaker 3: How long were you there?
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  Speaker 5: I was there for three years.
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  Speaker 6: I was only there for like nine months really, but
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  Speaker 6: you don't have a sign like, but you instantly feel
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  Speaker 6: because adulta training them.
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  Speaker 3: Eight weeks?
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  Speaker 6: How long you were eight or ten weeks? No, we
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  Speaker 6: were six weeks, six weeks. How many plans did you learn?
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  Speaker 5: All of them? And we had it was like at
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  Speaker 5: that point, it's like twelve, Okay, I think we did
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  Speaker 5: eight to start.
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  Speaker 3: I think we did.
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  Speaker 5: We only did learn. There's different exits and it's a
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  Speaker 5: whole it's the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: And then you feel on a plane.
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  Speaker 7: Both of you don't really be killing because it's like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, you kind of know the thing, so you
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  Speaker 7: just kind of like watching here and there and you're
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  Speaker 7: just like, all right, if you feel safe, you just
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  Speaker 7: you chill.
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  Speaker 3: Literally, you've been doing this over seventeen well you said
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  Speaker 3: about seventeen years, right, craziest injury.
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  Speaker 5: None, great?
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  Speaker 3: Crazy?
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  Speaker 5: Thank god? Yeah no, no, thank god. B I mean
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  Speaker 5: so when I first started race, I did flip the bike,
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  Speaker 5: but then I got back up. They're like, man, we
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  Speaker 5: need to check you out. I'm like, I'm good, but
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  Speaker 5: it's my bike, okay because I want to keep going
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  Speaker 5: and the bike was fine. I was good.
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  Speaker 1: Race was just yes, a race.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, damn. I know.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about being a truck driver, a flight attendant.
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  Speaker 2: Now NASCAR, which version of yourself for you?
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  Speaker 1: Most?
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  Speaker 5: This one? Because when I look back over all the
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  Speaker 5: times I should have quit, and all the things that
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  Speaker 5: I had to overcome and the things I went through,
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  Speaker 5: to look back now and to see that I really
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  Speaker 5: made it and this is just the beginning. I'm so
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  Speaker 5: proud of myself.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 6: Seriously, why do you think it's taken so long for
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  Speaker 6: black women to be present in the Space Center?
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  Speaker 5: One? It takes a lot of money so to be
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  Speaker 5: able to obtain the sponsorships, to be able to get
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  Speaker 5: the people that truly believe in you, because you have
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people that's like, yeah, we think you
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  Speaker 5: can do it, but we got to see it first.
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  Speaker 5: So that's first and foremost. The money and having a
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  Speaker 5: team that understands your vision and they believe in you
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  Speaker 5: and push that forward so that other people can see too.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I realized. You know, I sponsored Roger
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  Speaker 2: Caru's car in the Darlington Race. There is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of black people behind the scenes at NASCAR. I would
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  Speaker 2: have never thought that if I hadn't seen it for myself.
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  Speaker 5: And that's changed over the years, because you know, years
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  Speaker 5: ago you never really saw that. But thankfully we have
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  Speaker 5: more people that look like us on the track and
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  Speaker 5: auf the track, because some people they look at us
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  Speaker 5: and look at people like myself and Roger and they're like,
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  Speaker 5: I want to be a racer, but I really don't.
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  Speaker 5: But then we're able to show them that there are
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  Speaker 5: other outlets in the space that they can do as well.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think Motorsports has done enough to create access.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think so. They're getting to that point now,
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  Speaker 5: especially with all the things that they're doing with the
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  Speaker 5: pit crew members and showing them as who they are
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  Speaker 5: and that they are an individual too. So we're getting there.
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  Speaker 2: So are we celebrating exceptions? Are we actually building real opportunities?
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  Speaker 5: I think we're definitely building real opportunities, especially for myself.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like me being a woman that shows those
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  Speaker 5: other little girls and boys boys that hey, like, if
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  Speaker 5: she can do it, I can do it too, and
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  Speaker 5: do it effortlessly and unapologetically.
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  Speaker 1: How personal does it get?
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  Speaker 4: You know, because sometimes I'm watching these races and I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: people cut each other off, they tapping the back of
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  Speaker 4: the car, and I'm like, after the race, you just
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  Speaker 4: feel y'all want five minutes like personal, Oh it gets personal.
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  Speaker 5: You what you see on TV when they're in your face.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, that's very much real. I don't do any
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  Speaker 5: of that because I don't got time for it, Like
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  Speaker 5: I'm focused on my racing. But oh yeah, people be
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  Speaker 5: ready to fight for real.
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  Speaker 3: What's the what would you say is the most challenging
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  Speaker 3: part of the race, like the physical part or the
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  Speaker 3: mental part.
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  Speaker 5: I would say the mental, because you got to think,
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  Speaker 5: we're in this car for two plus hours. You have
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  Speaker 5: to make sure you're constantly hitting your lines, meaning racing
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  Speaker 5: where you're supposed to each round, each lap around the track.
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  Speaker 5: You also have to worry about the people around you.
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  Speaker 5: You have to worry about tired maintenance, making sure you're
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  Speaker 5: not wearing your tires out. It's so many aspects. You
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  Speaker 5: have to think of all that and continue to race
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  Speaker 5: and stay focused.
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  Speaker 3: And then y'all don't even get the pe No listen.
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  Speaker 5: So people they were like, what you gotta deal when
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  Speaker 5: you gotta pay, you better hold it. But some people
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  Speaker 5: wear it like depends too, So I know that's right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah I'm not but yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 4: As your personal question has nothing to do with this,
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  Speaker 4: But you just just mentioned something I had. I gotta
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  Speaker 4: think about racing my sunny the other day in the
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  Speaker 4: gold cost spot, right, I gotta ask you.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so when you hit the curves, they.
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  Speaker 4: Like, it's not to say this, but he beat me.
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  Speaker 4: He beat me the other day, right, And I thought
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  Speaker 4: maybe because he's a lot lighter than me and his
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  Speaker 4: car lighter.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: When you hit the turns, you hit the break or
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  Speaker 1: gas or do you swerve to the turn? How do
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  Speaker 1: you swerve?
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  Speaker 5: It depends because the apex, the banking, all of that
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  Speaker 5: makes a difference. But to what you were talking about, Yes,
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  Speaker 5: your son being lighter will definitely help that. All right, No,
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  Speaker 5: that's true.
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  Speaker 1: That's my story. I'm gonna go racing to day now now.
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  Speaker 2: Logan, Yeah, Logan, Loganga.
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  Speaker 3: Is like not lighter in you. It's no way.
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  Speaker 1: He just got muscles.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe when did you realize you wanted to
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  Speaker 2: start navigating male dominated spaces? Because I read somewhere that
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  Speaker 2: you used to play organized football, tackle football and middle
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  Speaker 2: high school.
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  Speaker 5: Yes I did.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny because it's like I never looked at it
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  Speaker 5: as being a male dominated thing. I just knew it
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  Speaker 5: was something I wanted to do, so I did it.
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  Speaker 5: So once I got into these spaces, They're like you,
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  Speaker 5: you're a girl, You're not supposed to do this, like
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  Speaker 5: this is a boy's sport. And I'm like, maybe to y'all,
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  Speaker 5: but to me, this is something I love. So I
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  Speaker 5: never looked at it any different. Corner and safety.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, they didn't give you.
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  Speaker 5: No slack, No, they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact that your parents put you in
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  Speaker 1: it and push you to do that. That's that's amazing
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  Speaker 1: because most parents be like, no, you don't play that,
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  Speaker 1: this boy sport. But the fact that they push you
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  Speaker 1: to do that, that means everything.
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  Speaker 5: My family has been super supportive no matter what I
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  Speaker 5: want to do. They've always said, destiny, if it's something
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  Speaker 5: you want to do, do it. Yeah, I did. I
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  Speaker 5: Actually I didn't. I never started, but I did get
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  Speaker 5: play time.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody laid you out.
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  Speaker 5: Oh in practice. This was after we made the team.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we have two days. Went out there that morning.
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  Speaker 5: I definitely got my bell rung. I definitely got a
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  Speaker 5: concussion when I got back up, and you know.
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  Speaker 4: What, his daddy's during that time when you get when
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  Speaker 4: you see you on the floor knocked out and you're
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  Speaker 4: looking at stars.
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  Speaker 5: So I didn't lay there. I got up and then
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  Speaker 5: I started seeing the stars. So they didn't know at
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  Speaker 5: the time, but I mean they know I'm tough, I'm rugged,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a girly.
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  Speaker 2: Girl, but I'm They didn't want to do that though,
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  Speaker 2: like you just saw it, Like I want to play football.
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  Speaker 5: I love football. So my dad's a huge Cowboys fan.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, family, Howard you got.
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  Speaker 5: So we just grew up watching football all the time
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  Speaker 5: and they had so I was like, I'm gonna do it. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: I'm from Virginia, Richmond, Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't have the Panthers when I was coming. I
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  Speaker 2: was born in nineteen hundred and seventy eight. So my
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  Speaker 2: daddy was a Cowboys fan as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's how.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you become a Cowboys fan down south.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, literally, I don't know how he started that.
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  Speaker 2: And the lifestyle, the whole cocaine, the women. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, what my daddy.
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  Speaker 3: What is the love like when you when you're back
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  Speaker 3: at home Richmond. I know it's just a small city,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like, yeah, it's huge, yeah, and which you
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  Speaker 3: have accomplished is so big being the first black woman
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  Speaker 3: yes a NASCAR.
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  Speaker 5: It's so cool because a lot of them, they've seen
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  Speaker 5: me go up through the rinks. They've seen me race motorcycles,
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  Speaker 5: they seen me race arena cars. So now that I'm
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  Speaker 5: actually here and I grew up two miles from the racetrack,
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  Speaker 5: they love it every time I come there, like, let
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  Speaker 5: us know we're gonna do something. So the little kids
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  Speaker 5: her like like, You're such an inspiration to them. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: And I've done so much like in the community too
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  Speaker 5: before I eve got to this point. So now that
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  Speaker 5: I'm here, I've really got to give back like I wanted.
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  Speaker 4: But what would you tell young girls? I was talking a
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  Speaker 4: lot or a couple of days ago. She was drag
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  Speaker 4: racing as a kid. So what do you tell young
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  Speaker 4: girls that want to get into it? How do they
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  Speaker 4: get into it?
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  Speaker 1: What do they need to do? What you know? How
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  Speaker 1: do they know practice? How do they jump into it?
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  Speaker 5: So for what I did and what I would give
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  Speaker 5: to them is go to your local drag strip wherever
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  Speaker 5: it is that you want to, you know, race at
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  Speaker 5: you can get a car, a junior drag stre because
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  Speaker 5: that's what Lotto did for like five grand and just
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  Speaker 5: find somebody, a team or someone that you try us
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  Speaker 5: to go out there with you and just show you
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  Speaker 5: all the ranks. But I love that you asked that
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  Speaker 5: because I have a foundation called What's Your Destiny Foundation,
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  Speaker 5: and it's to help kids get into motorsports on and
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  Speaker 5: I want to teach them things on and off the track.
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  Speaker 5: So I, like you said, creating these opportunities, that's what
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  Speaker 5: it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: How can they how can they get more information about that?
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  Speaker 5: So it's on my website Destiny spurlock dot com.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, what do the all your pictures, not all
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  Speaker 6: of them, but a lot of pictures on your Instagram.
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  Speaker 6: You have the stars and your interviews. I've watched what
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  Speaker 6: is the significance of the Stars under your eyes?
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  Speaker 5: So we cannot wear jewelry when not in drag races,
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  Speaker 5: so also drag race in NHR too. And the first
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  Speaker 5: time they told me that, I was like, ill, I
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  Speaker 5: feel naked. I need something that's pretty. So I found
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  Speaker 5: my stars. But the stars are also from Avatar, so
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  Speaker 5: I'm like it brings the little materia out in me.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, you feel like Avatar when you drive car
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  Speaker 2: all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you have to. Yeah, you have to find something
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  Speaker 5: inner that's bigger than you, that's gonna bring you through
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  Speaker 5: for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Now, when you ride regular on the road, are you
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  Speaker 4: still like I gotta get to what I gotta get
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  Speaker 4: all You're like, no, especially when you're in traffic.
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  Speaker 5: We got to get to where we gotta go. But
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  Speaker 5: you know we go to speed livings.
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  Speaker 3: So you're a medial strip type girl, because yes, I
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  Speaker 3: think a menial strip real question.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, I mean I gotta keep my life.
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  Speaker 4: And people must pull up to you all the time
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  Speaker 4: when they see you in the car, especially back home.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't. I don't. I don't live in Virginia anymore.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in North Carolina now, so I'm kind of Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So when they pull up to you the light and
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  Speaker 1: they see they want to race you all the time. No,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know.
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  Speaker 5: No, I a chilling, be chilling.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: I have my hat on my hoodie like all incognito.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: I have no idea why regular cars go up to
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: one hundred plus miles. I we're never able to limited
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: fifty five in most places.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: So you have no idea.
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: Well, if you go Midwest and stuff, you can go
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: seventy five eighty out there. But you can also go
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: to the racetrack.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it should be based on you tell
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: your regular car race, yes, track, I can take a
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: hundred to the race.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: You can? People do it the one yes?
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Wow, most people ain't doing that.
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: A lot of people do that for the people that
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: want to.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: I guess what what do people just understand about women
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: in racing? Becase there's always a stereotype that women can't drive?
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: What was that?
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: A stereotype that I'm sorry for real? Usually they say.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Don't context. I don't want people to stereotype. It's not
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: true women as well.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: Just a lot of people they just feel like women
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: aren't strong enough. You know, we're small, we're fragile, we
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: can't do the things that men can do in a
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: car and in life in general. Yes, that is true
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: to some extent, but that doesn't mean that we can't
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: do it and we can't do it well. So yeah,
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: they just need to understand we can do this.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like you got to just spell
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: that stereotype?
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: No, I just continue to focus on what I'm doing.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Because everybody has an opinion, but it's not going to affect.
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: Me, what's your take on like the conversation like can
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: women have it all? Because your career is so physical
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: and so like very different than any other woman that
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: is not competing in a sport like yours, right, so
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: love family all that stuff, like do you yeah, no, no, no,
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: I'm just wondering, like how you what your thinking is
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: around stuff like that because you're a race car driver,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: Like it's it's such a different life. Absolutely, no, we
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: can have it all. But for me, my focus is
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: my career. I work so hard to get to this point,
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: like nothing is going to get in my way of
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: stopping this progression and where I've gotten and so that's
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: my focus.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: I understand that you.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Have the type of confidence I hope my daughters have,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Like have you have you always been fearless or it's
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: just something that you just had to learn.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Always been fearless. My mom has always told me destiny, like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: don't be that little kid that sat in the back
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: of the classroom that said, dang, I wish I'd ever
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: raised my hand, Dang, I wish I would have tried that.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: So from that point at four, I've always been a
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: go getter, I'm like, I can do it.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: You jumped off the roof, put a towel on your
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: aund your neck.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: I haven't, but I did take my little tights wagon
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: to my neighbor's driveway which was super hot and drove
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: down it. So I did crazy stuff with age six seven. Yeah,
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: that was gonna ask.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: You know watching NASCAR, right, and a lot of people
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: don't really know much about it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like soccer now, like you you watch it,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: but you don't know what it means. When I noticed
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: when people race and they get in like the fourteenth place,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: they're excited and they're happy. So how does that work
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: when it comes to that, because I've seen somebody the
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: other day they were like in the twentieth place and
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: they were excited about I'm like twenty five mad, But
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I guess time.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: So it's not yes enough. So you have teams like
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: big teams, so they're able to have all the great equipment,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: you know, a bunch of research and development on their car.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Then you have some teams that are lower level or
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: lower tier, so they're just happy to be in top
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: twenty because that doesn't happen too often. So that's what
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: that comes from.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: And then also I wanted to know, like when you
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: do build out a car, is there a cap like
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: you know how in certain basketball as each team has
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: a cap might be thirty million. But if I have
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: more money than you, and I can, you know, make
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: my car as fast as possible because I can afford it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Is there a cap when it comes to the NASCAR
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: racing or no?
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: When you say like as far as money, yes, not really,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: you still have to stay within the guidelines of the rules. Yes,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: but if you have all this money where you can
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: get a bunch of air tunnel time or you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: research enveloped to try to make a part as great
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: as you can, you can do it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It's one of the coolest things that I was seeing, man,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: when I went to go see Rogers, because it's like
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: they got the control room, then they got the the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I guess another control room on the sideline. Then you
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: got the team that fixes the car. Would it has
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to do the pitch. There's so much that goal into
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: that one car that people don't see.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: They don't they just see the driver and maybe the
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: pit people. But it takes so much, like the whole
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: week to make sure everything is together.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And then somebody talking to you while you're racing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Yes, so you have earbuzz in and your spotter is
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: talking to you.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: So you have to trust them a thousand masts. So
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: what do he goes?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Move?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: You move, and you gotta trust him not to look
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and nose.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: He's your eyes and is absolutely and sometimes you got
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: to make a move without even asking him or you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: him saying something to you. If you see an opening,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: you know you can get it. You gotta go.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten to an argument with your spider
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: like you missed something or he didn't want you to
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: do something?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: Nah, nah, my spotter is really good. Yeah, he's cool.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Have you heard of that though? Like some spotterer is
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: missing the marks and things like that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Why it happens all the time. And then I feel
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: like you have to also get a spotter that works
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: for you. They may be the best, yes, but they
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: you all may not communicate the same.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: So that is a big Are you interviewing them like
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: a personal interview like an assistant? Like how is how
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: do you get the spotter?
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: So right now, my team, they have brought me some
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: people and we've tried different people out and that's pretty much.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: How you have to do it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: That's a damn like live with you because he has
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: to know you, right, we have to live. You have
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: to know somebody so well you're playing with their life.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially, but a couple of conversations to day.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, not at all, Like we'll do a pre race,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: at the race and post Maybe I couldn't imagine that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Oh god, what is the benefit of staying physically fit
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: or being physically fit as a racist?
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, because we are athletes, I'm so glad you said that. Yes,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I'm in the gym six days a week literally for
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: four hours minimum. Yeah, we're doing all the agility training,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: heavy lifting, we do reaction stuff. I get on the
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: sim I'm watching film, so you have to when I
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: say it's like football camp, that's the type of study. Yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: that's how it is.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Incorrect me if I'm wrong, because I don't know the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: technical way to say it. But it's like almost like
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: phone memory in your seat type thing. Yeah, it shapes
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to you when you sit in.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: It, so it's a seat poor So well, they'll pour
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: the stuff in we sit in it. It gets like over
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: one hundred degrees and it molds to you. So that
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: is prime for a race car driver.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: So you can't you really do. Got to watch your
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: way because you gotta stay within.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: The Yeah, but no, because it's funny. I got into
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: my old car the other day and I can't fit
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: my seat anymore. So you just call the people up.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: They'll come out there. Poor You're done in a day.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, wow.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: How has like the business and branding side of it
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: been for you? Like you know on one and it's
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: like first black woman to do all these things. But
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: do you feel like on the business side they're as welcoming,
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: open open to you.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: So yes. So first I gotta say thank you to
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Fox Techa. They are the reason I'm here. They I've
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: met them six years ago. They always believed in me,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: so they are a huge part of it because they,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: like I said, they see my vision like I see it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: So when they're talking to people, they like who I am,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: but they want to see me in the car first.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: So now that I'm here, they're way more welcoming than before.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I love that for you.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So you got the YouTube series Driven by Destiny. What
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: do you want people to learn? You know, not just
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: about the sport of racing, but about you. Are you
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: just trying to introduce yourself to the personality.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: So I want them to see what it looks like
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes, because a lot of people that just see, oh,
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: you're a race car driver, they don't understand all the
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: things that it took for me to get to this point,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: and the hardship and all that good stuff. So I
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: want them to come into my world. Gives me a
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: chance to be vulnerable and show them who I am.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Was there ever a moment where you almost gave up
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: because you feel like doors weren't opening.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a ton of times. A ton of times. I
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: can't even count on both my hands. There's been things,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: like I said, a lot of overpromising under delivering has happened,
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: and I just wanted to say forget it. But something
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: would happen where I see a little girl she's like, oh,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I love what you're doing. I'm all right, I guess
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I'll keep going. So scared, not no, not scared, nervous,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Not scared because inspect what I do and I know
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: what can happen. But once I get in the car
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: or on the bike, I'm good.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I love what you said about the little girl, right
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: because I always you pray to God to just show
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: you signs. Right, you ask God showed me if I
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: should be doing something like so, was that a thing
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: like you saw this little girl and she actually told
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: you like, hey.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh what you're doing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: I just all the time, and I pray a lot,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, hey, God, let me know what you
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: need me to do. I'll see a one one one,
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, let's keep it moving, like you know.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Or I'll meet somebody in the grocery store and they're like, hey,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: are you destiny? And I'm like, all right, let's keep going,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: you know. So I've always known that it's bigger than me,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: regardless of the things I go through. I'm going through
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: them to help the next generation when i'm kids.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: So you're not call you probably a superhero old of them.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: I know I am.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: That's when you Have you ever asked your parents why
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: they named you?
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I know that story. So my mom didn't know. First
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: of all, my dad wanted to name me Shaquille because
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: he loves Shaquille O'Neill. Right, yes, my mom said absolutely not.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: We gonna figure this out. And she was at my
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: mom my grandparents house sitting in her kitchen and she
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: said she just heard the word destiny, and she said,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: that's what I'm the nameing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I actually like sugar. I like destiny and how you
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: spell it very significantly. But I can see Shaquille for
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: a girl, not for me, but Ki Shaquilla. Shaquille Shaquilla
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: is my father one to name me Kevin Cray's no.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Get Kevin Kevin.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: This is why I nothing.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: What they play when you when you.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Were younger, did you realize what destiny was?
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: No? I had no clue until I got older. I
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: was probably about high school and I really started digging
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: into the meaning of my name, and I'm like, this
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: is wow. I get to really create my own destiny
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: every day, and that's my name.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Like, okay, so what did you think your original destiny was?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Are you still.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I thought my original destiny was to do something out
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: of the ordinary, which I've always done. So to answer that, yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I'm still doing it so much more to come.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: When is your next race so people can follow you?
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Okay? So next race is this Friday, which will we
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: will have the juneteenth livery thanks to Fox tech Us.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: So yes, that's gonna be a Pocono. And then I
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: have another race coming up which I want to make
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: a great announcement about. Okay, so on July twenty four,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: thank you so much to miss Emily Sussman. She is
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: also the co owner of Gotham FC and the New
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: York Giants. So she has a podcast called She Pivots Podcasts,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: and she is coming along with me on this journey
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: because she believes in me, and she's going to sponsor
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: my race. Wow, Indianapolis, amazing, congratulations. Yes it's old, yes, yes, yes,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: let me see.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And is it you like you? This is all your
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: creative control.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: So it's my team. And and when I say my
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: team is like that, they like that. Okay, my phone
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: is turned off, so okay in the moment, yes, y'all
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: have right, I don't have hers on my phone. Okay, perfect, Yes,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: y'all gonna love it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: And then so I'm really big into my ancestors because listen,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: they didn't get these chances that I have. So I
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: always say I am my sister's wildest dreams come true.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: And we got that on the car, So I'm really.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: I got to see Okay, oh wow, that's beautiful.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Which one is that, Okay, I love it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Fire, oh my god.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: And you look at this yo. This you do a
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: lot of colors.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I saw another picture before the numbers or something like.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was my avatar. That was when I did
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: my truck baby.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you do a lot of like color.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: This is dope. That's the same one.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: That's yeah, hold on, let me pull that that for you, right?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I love that so colorful, vibrant.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: You know, yes, I love it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not one of my favorite things to do, sponsoring
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Rogers call. I'm gonna do more of that. But that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: was that. It's like going to NASCAR period. That was
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: my first time going. But I'm like, I can see
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: why people like enjoyed. When I was young, my dad
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to take me to the racetrack of Cooper River Dragon
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Way in South Carolina. But that and Darlington was different.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, way different. We get to some races.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, if I was, I say, I would go to win.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: The Poconos is close.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: It's very close, but that's your that's the weekend. Your
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: car show.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: July twenty fifth is my car show.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, herge, the last twenty four you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Know, I went, I went to Hampton, So I'm always
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: in Hampton. Yeah, no, touch Richmond every once in a while.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Dope.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: I definitely got to come to one of your car
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: shows because I've been seeing it on my feet.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: One day when you're not racing, we would love to
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: get one of your car Carr.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: He's Dominican, but still I am.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: A lot of black people events.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Destiny. When you're eighty years old and you're looking back,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: what do you hope people say? Destiny spur a lot changed.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: The face of motorsports because when I grew up in
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: motors versus, you didn't see a lot of people that
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: look like me. Maybe you did in drag racing, but
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: definitely not in NASCAR spaces. So yeah, that's what I
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: want them to say.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Tell them how to follow you.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Follow me on Dessie Spurlock everything except Facebook. That's Des
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Spurlock Official and it's d Y and I d E.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: There we go, it's d Y S t A n Y.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Well, it's dj M V Little keV Charlemagne. That was
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: violent for no reasons.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I don't condone that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Destinies Burl, I thank you so much for joining us.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Joe, Keviny was crazy. That was unnecessary. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: was completely understand I don't know why you don't know.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Every day I wake, click your glass up, the breakfast club.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: You don't finish for.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Y'all done it.