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Over seven decades of reform work! · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Welcome, welcome, our wonderful audience.
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This is Dr.
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Peter Breggan, and I'm with my wonderful wife,
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Ginger Braggan.
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And today is my 90th birthday.
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Woohoo.
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Wow.
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And uh my slightly hoarse voice is not
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really uh age.
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It's an allergy.
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Everything here in upstate New York is bursting
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in growth outdoors.
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So I'm a little hoarse from allergy, and
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I'm also in recovery from a stroke that
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we uh documented on August 15th as having
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occurred.
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Um almost, I think it's nine months now,
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which is hard to believe.
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Nine months.
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You've been taking care of me for nine
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months.
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Yes.
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No, that's okay.
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You've been getting better and better.
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It's all worth it, babe.
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And we have not decided what to talk
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about yet.
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No, this is gonna be open mic day
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with our guest.
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I have some questions for you.
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Okay.
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But let's introduce our guest first so he
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can join in.
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We have Steve Miller with us today.
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This this is not the Steve Miller at
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the White House.
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It would be fun to interview him too.
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But this Steve Miller is a friend of
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ours and a wonderful colleague and uh fellow
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freedom fighter uh who shares our perspectives and
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many and all of our ideals and so
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forth.
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He also comes from Los Angeles, which I
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think at this stage of the uh of
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the world is a very brave place to
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live.
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Most people have fled LA already, and he's
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there.
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And so I think Steve, you bring a
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West Coast perspective that some of us on
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the East Coast in Florida, maybe even in
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Texas, don't have aren't as connected to anymore
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in terms of what's happening on that part
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of the world.
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Later in the broadcast, I hope to just
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have you give us a little information on
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the elections of the mayor that are going
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on that are being prepared for, and the
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governor, which are both are big deals.
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So, Steve Miller, thank you for coming on
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on this special day.
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Oh, my pleasure.
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I love it.
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I always love it.
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That's great.
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So would you tell people a little bit
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about yourself because I was so involved in
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uh doing a TV show earlier and then
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getting ready for this, but I failed to
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print out your bio.
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Sure.
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Uh I've been a writer uh for TV
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and film, mostly rewrites.
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It's just a niche I fell into for
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probably about 30 years now.
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And uh things quieted down, of course, during
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COVID and then during the strike, Hollywood's taking
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a beating, which a well-deserved beating, but uh
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that's what I've been doing.
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And uh I also, in terms of subject
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matter near and dear to all our hearts,
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uh, I wrote the four-part episode uh four-part
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series, COVID unmasked 2020 and beyond.
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Uh, you could find it on a number
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of websites.
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Um it's a video, right?
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It's a video, it's a four-part video.
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Uh I started it the day they announced
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the lockdowns in late, actually, even a bit
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earlier when I because I knew it was
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coming, uh, which we could discuss if you
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want.
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But so I started at mid-February, even before
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the lockdown announcement of 2020.
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A month before.
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Yeah, a month before.
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And uh that one was picked up mainly
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by CHD TV, children's health defense.
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And between that and all the other platforms,
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it's on a number of them.
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I'm not a techie, but my techie tells
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me we've just passed the five million viewer
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mark, which is fantastic.
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Oh, that's wonderful.
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Yeah, independent views for for all four parts.
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So uh that's that's it in a nutshell.
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That's great.
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If you send me after we're off the
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show, the link to that video.
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I'm going to put it in the write-up
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that we include with this uh interview, so
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that our listeners and readers of the write-up
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can actually find that link and go and
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view that.
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Oh, I'd be happy to.
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It's an important reminder right now what happened
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in COVID because we're seeing the same playbook
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broken out again for this hantavirus outbreak that
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occurred on a uh cruise ship, another cruise
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ship.
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Another cruise ship before.
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Go ahead.
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I I didn't think they'd have the nerve,
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and I don't know if they will to
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do the same thing when so many people
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are now hit to it and wise to
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what's going on.
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But they've been known to.
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They're not known for their originality.
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No, they tried creatures at the top.
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They tried the same thing with monkeypox.
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Same thing.
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They tried it with a number of things.
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Uh bird, monkey box, bird flu.
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Uh, there were a couple of, and then
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they just disappear.
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It actually acts as if it's, I know
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what it's like to be in a writer's
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room as a writer.
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Uh and it acts as if it's script,
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and it is.
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And it comes and it goes, and people
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forget.
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Oh, wait a minute, you were saying that
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uh this is the new danger, the new
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variant of COVID, and then it's just gone
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with the wind.
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That's right.
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It's and they may do the same with
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this one if they feel it doesn't have
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legs, or they may go with it.
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Um, I think it was Elgato Malo, who
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is a substack author.
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I remember who wrote uh that what that
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cruise ship needed is not uh is not
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a public health official.
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They needed uh an exterminator because Hantavirus is
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caused by rat feces that's that's infected with
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the virus, and then that feces sits and
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desiccates and turns into dust and gets inhaled,
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and somebody else or another rat or a
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human becomes infected.
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Um that so they they actually genuinely do
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need exterminators rather than uh rather than public
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health officials and a lot of uh PCR
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testing.
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I would think that's what the globalists in
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their hearts feel is that we're the rats.
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We're the rats, yeah.
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There you go.
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We're the rats, and they're like that they
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want to keep track of us and uh
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rather than a global government thing would like
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to exterminate us.
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It's a really long and very inglorious uh
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history going back to England and H.G.
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Wells and a number of others.
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Number of others.
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Uh actually you'll find that idea of eugenics,
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Actually, you'll find that idea of eugenics, uh
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uh depopulation, mass depopulation going back even during
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depopulation, mass depopulation going back even during Greek
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Greek times and Roman times.
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times and Roman times.
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Nothing, none of this is new.
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Nothing, none of this is new.
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None of it.
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None of it.
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So it's just the latest incarnation.
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So it's just the latest incarnation.
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The difference is now they have the technology
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The difference is now they have the technology
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to do what they couldn't do before.
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to do what they couldn't do before.
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And that in a nutshell is why this
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And that in a nutshell is why this
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period of history is so different.
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period of history is so different.
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It's so dangerous.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When when uh whoever uh I was gonna
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name a couple different people that were promoting
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eugenics a hundred years ago when they were
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doing it, it was an idea.
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It was an ugly idea, but that's all
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it was.
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They didn't really have the means, other than
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the traditional means of unnecessary wars and other
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things that governments have done to kill off
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their population and other populations, but now it's
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a whole new ball game.
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The technology they dreamed of is now here.
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Yeah.
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And that's why we have to be so
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resistant to it and resistant to the brainwashing.
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I've been eager to point out that there
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are at this point, I think thousands of
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news articles blowing up and exploding uh the
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fear factor of the Huntavirus.
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That's all happened within days, folks, and that's
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not something that has just organically grown on
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its own.
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That is planned down to the written article
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itself, I can assure you.
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And we have to be really careful not
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to allow ourselves to get triggered and re-stimulated
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by that particular kind of fear factor that's
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going on.
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Um, and part of it is just to
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look at the memes and and recognize the
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science that the hantavirus, for instance, is not
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even aerosol.
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It's not like sneezing and getting a cold
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from someone else.
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And of course, you get a cold, you
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get over the cold.
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Uh the huntavirus is much harder to catch.
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They don't believe I don't believe that they've
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proven yet that there's actually a lot of
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human to human contact.
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No.
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Um, and that in itself is important.
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That's another aspect of the fear is talking
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about irresponsibly, I think, talking about human to
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human contact before it's even been proven.
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So we can move on from that arena,
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but I think it was important to at
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least mention it.
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It'll be nice to watch it go away.
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It sure would.
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It'll be interesting to see how quickly it
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dissolves.
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Just like monkeypox and bird flu, and I
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can't even remember the other variants they were
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talking about.
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But uh, I personally think they've underestimated the
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power of independent media of the internet.
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They're still in the in the uh mind
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frame of well, we own CBS, NBC, ABC,
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MSNBC, Fox, New York Times, LA Times.
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So yeah, CNN and on and on and
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on.
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And they don't get, they really don't get
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how people that have 5 million, 10 million,
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50 million followers, the amount that's out there.
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And I don't listen to any survey, I
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just go by my own survey, which is
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just talking to random people.
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I may have mentioned this in a previous
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podcast, but I take a walk every night
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for an hour just for general health and
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extraversion and all that.
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And I I'd say I meet at least
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one new person a day.
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So after 365 multiply that, even in the
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last three years, I've been walking a lot
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longer than that.
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That's a thousand people.
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You get a pretty good sense of levels
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of awareness.
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And I'm not gonna sit here and say
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everybody or most people are aware of this
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con, the scam, but an awful lot are
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me.
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And this is in LA in a very
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blue state, a pretty liberal town in a
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very blue state.
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And yet I'd say at least half the
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people are I'm overwhelmed with their level of
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sophistication of what's going on.
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So I think they're underestimating us.
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That is really great news, especially in such
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a blue uh especially region because uh to
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some degree they're less exposed to uh at
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least neutral information, um, and more exposed to
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uh potential propaganda.
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But I think you're right.
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I think that the the it's one of
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the pluses of the internet that the independent
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media reaches beyond the uh traditional means and
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around the traditional means.
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It sure does.
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You know, even if the New York Times
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prints X numbers of papers a day, who
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may how many people really read them compared
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to how many people listen to your giant
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podcaster, the Joe Rogan or uh someone else,
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and and and listen to uh uh outlets
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like ours, American American out um America out
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loud dot news.
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That's right, that's exactly right.
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Yeah, it's a whole new model, whole new
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paradigm, and they don't understand it.
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And of course, there's gonna be horrible junk
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and terrible conspiracy theories, just just you know,
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the usual hateful stuff, etc.
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That come that's the price of free speech.
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That's gonna be there too.
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But with that, a lot of good information
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is getting out.
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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So I'd like to switch now to I
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I had a good idea to ask you
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a question, and I don't know if it's
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the same one that I had an hour
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ago.
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Well, I'll be around every day of your
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life.
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So I can ask questions anytime I want.
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Actually, that's one of my most favorite things
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about living with you is that I ask
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you questions every day.
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Are you aware of that?
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I'm almost always coming up with something, either
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something psychologically about my own self or something
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else that I observe, or you know, aspects
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of the world, and so there's we're always
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talking.
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I think that's one of the most fun
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things that we do.
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Well, and folks, it's uh really uh underscored
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by the fact that the first symptom I
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had from the stroke was I couldn't talk.
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Right.
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Common.
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I could barely think, and I when I
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thought and I got thought I got a
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word.
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I literally couldn't pronounce it, couldn't make it
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come out.
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And um, as I mentioned before, seeing the
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sadness that that protocol caused Jinji's face.
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Across Ginger's face.
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Is the reason I'm talking now.
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Is the reason I'm talking now?
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It's not because I couldn't wait to get
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It's not because I couldn't wait to get
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back and be on the radio.
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back and be on the radio.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I had to talk to my wife
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It was that I had to talk to
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and believe her loneliness.
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my wife and believe her loneliness.
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It was a smile.
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It was a smile.
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It was three and a half or four
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It was three and a half or four
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months before he started talking.
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months before he started talking, and he started
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And he started talking about three or four
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talking about three or four weeks after he
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weeks after he he began the oxygen hyperbaric
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he began the oxygen hyperbaric oxygen therapy treatment.
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oxygen therapy treatment.
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And
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And I I I mean it was like
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a switch got thrown, and you started talking
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with me again.
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It was like a miracle.
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Wow, I thought I was throwing the switch
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internally.
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Well, I'm sure you had the intention of
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doing that, you know.
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And I that was really a boot camp
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that you went through for three months, and
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it took a lot of courage and strength
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at 90 for you to go through that
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whole process.
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That was amazing.
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But it was I I told the doctor
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in charge of the program that day.
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I said, this was worth everything.
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He's just started talking with me again.
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Oh my god, that's gorgeous.
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Oh, it was beautiful.
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I know the biggest blessing.
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Fine single.
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It had been so lonely.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, it's your best friend, and the main
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feature of your best friend is the ability
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to communicate back and forth.
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Yes.
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And that's not there.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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So how does it feel to be 90?
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Well, it feels like a good day in
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general.
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Because I've always wanted Ginger to do TV
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and radio with me.
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And um I sat today holding hands with
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her.
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Well, I did a radio show.
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TV.
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A TV show that I've done for several
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years.
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He came back and did the Tamara Scott
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show for the first time today.
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Fantastic.
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Since his stroke.
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Yeah.
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And uh Tamara invited me on for the
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show also.
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So we actually sat together like we're sitting
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here with you, Steve.
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And we hold hands.
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We held hands and we did the TV
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show together.
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It worked.
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I guess I've done enough radio now, and
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I'm used to looking at myself and at
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our guests that it just wasn't as intimidating
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as it used to be.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Well, actually, the other thing is it's like
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after you watch your husband having a stroke,
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and you go through that whole recovery period
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doing TV is a piece of cake.
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There you go.
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Well, I guess I guess it's true.
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If it does what doesn't kill you makes
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you stronger.
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So yeah, that's right.
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Wow.
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You know, I I remember Peter seeing him
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probably for the first time.
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I don't know if it was Oprah.
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It was in the early or mid-80s.
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You could probably tell me.
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It was either Oprah or Phil Donahue, one
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of those.
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Yeah.
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He was on all that stuff.
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Yeah.
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Was it the early 80s, Peter?
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Yes, the mid.
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When you were on those shows, yeah.
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It was the we got together in 84,
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and I think he was doing Oprah around
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87.
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Okay, it is that time period.
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Because then by 89, his license was attacked
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and unsuccessfully.
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Um because of what he did on Oprah.
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It had such a successful show in Oprah.
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Yeah.
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No, the way things are now, especially I
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feel like any doctor of any type who
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hasn't been attacked, and where they've attempted successfully
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or not to take away the license.
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If they haven't been through that at least
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once, they're not pulling their weight.
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They're not speaking loud enough.
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Pretty much every podcast I've been on with
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a doctor, they've lost their license, or they're
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fighting to get it back, or it's being
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threatened.
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So we know the playbook.
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We all know what they do.
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That was Ginger's first rescue of me because
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she mobilized.
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Oh hang on.
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You know what?
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We just ran out of time for the
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first segment.
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Can we come back to tell this story,
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please?
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We'll be right back.
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And Peter was gonna tell the story of
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how I rescued him.
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With the with the uh medical license attack.
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We were off on a nice uh weekend
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trip into North Carolina where I bought Ginger
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a Canon AE1 camera.
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And I knew she had a great eye,
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and she started taking great pictures.
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And um eventually she would enter those pictures
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Eventually she would enter those pictures into the
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into the annual film contest they had down
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Carolina.
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Art contest.
21:15
Art contest.
21:16
And uh she entered that and she won
21:16
And uh she entered that and she won
21:20
first place in color photography.
21:20
first place in color photography.
21:24
Actually, I swept first, second, and third in
21:24
Actually, I swept first, second, and third action
21:26
the color photography.
21:27
in the color photography because it
21:29
Because it was blind, it was blind entrances.
21:32
So you couldn't tell that these three entries
21:35
came from the same person.
21:41
And so forth.
21:42
And the three of them swept the competition.
21:45
So you got the trifecta.
21:47
Look at that.
21:48
I did.
21:49
It was like, okay, done.
21:51
Now what am I going to do?
21:53
What were they pictures of?
21:55
They were photography of the landscape of just
21:56
nature.
21:58
Yeah.
21:59
And uh one was of uh gulls.
22:03
But uh uh flying gulls.
22:06
Wow.
22:07
And uh that kind of thing.
22:10
Sunrises.
22:11
I carry her camera back for he was
22:13
my cameraman.
22:18
We've been promoting each other from the beginning.
22:21
Yeah.
22:22
Well, tell him what I did for the
22:23
medical license so people know how that cleared
22:25
up.
22:27
Well, our lawyer said our lawyer actually, actually,
22:30
several friends without our asking them, who were
22:33
lawyers, got together to form a committee defense
22:37
committee for Peter Braggan.
22:40
And the goal was to keep Peter Bregan
22:43
from turning it into a reform effort.
22:46
Wow.
22:47
They wanted me to be cordial and pleasant
22:50
with my colleagues, which I always am.
22:53
Their intention of course, of course.
22:55
Their intention was actually to protect him.
22:59
Protect his license.
23:00
And protect him uh in the engagement with
23:02
the other side with the licensing committees in
23:05
order to make sure that it had a
23:07
good outcome.
23:10
It's not like they tried to muzzle his
23:13
reform work, but it uh they were concerned
23:16
about him going to to any media, and
23:19
I was I was duct taped.
23:22
I couldn't go to the media.
23:24
I wanted to go to the media right
23:25
away.
23:27
And then finally, Ginger started to research and
23:30
call the doctors she could locate who had
23:34
taken stands and been had gone after the
23:37
let people go after the licenses.
23:42
And um she she got the a very
23:45
different suggestion.
23:48
She she got basically the message came back.
23:52
Scare them.
23:54
Make them more afraid of you than you
23:56
are then.
23:57
There you go.
23:58
So he came back from doing Oprah for
24:00
a third time because by then it was
24:03
a third time on Oprah, and she was
24:05
dealing with pressure.
24:07
Uh this was before Oprah changed, and uh
24:11
she was dealing with pressure from the the
24:14
uh psychiatric association, and uh they ended up
24:18
she ended up bringing on the head of
24:21
the American Psychiatric Association, right?
24:25
To talk with to debate Peter on the
24:27
Oprah Winfrey show.
24:30
They love those conflicts, yeah.
24:32
That's that's a common one.
24:34
Well, the ape psychiatric association didn't love it.
24:37
She said, No, I'm not gonna give you
24:39
your own show, there's a rebuttal.
24:41
Debate the doctor.
24:42
Wow.
24:43
How did it go?
24:48
He wasn't exactly equipped for the situation.
24:52
Frankly, no, nobody's equipped with no mercy.
24:58
I hope you demolished.
24:59
It sounds like you did.
25:01
Yeah.
25:01
And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
25:03
You actually had a copy of the book
25:05
that had the data in it, I think
25:07
about tartar dyskinesia.
25:10
But in it, I knew that when I
25:13
got started talking about the brain damaging effects
25:16
of the antipsychotic drugs that he'd start lying.
25:20
Of course.
25:21
So I brought in the task force report.
25:23
It's an official report from his organization.
25:27
And I was just quoting from it when
25:30
he when he interrupted me and said, No
25:32
responsible professional beliefs that I said I was
25:35
just quoting from your associations.
25:38
Yeah.
25:41
And uh he got very flustered, started complaining.
25:46
It wasn't a courtroom.
25:48
He he wasn't there to be attacked or
25:49
whatever.
25:51
Um it's amazing how little they have going
25:55
for them when they're confronted.
25:59
Correct.
26:00
And um and they lie with impunity unless
26:03
I mean that's I think what's made the
26:06
well Peter's always insisted on show me the
26:09
the documents.
26:12
Yeah, you know, and but I think that
26:14
that's really honed that for him over the
26:16
years.
26:19
Yeah.
26:20
Well, ginger is really honed uh the skill
26:24
of standing up for myself, and um she
26:29
um those are the days before cell phones,
26:34
and uh at the end of the meeting,
26:39
um in which I gave a lecture on
26:44
brain damage from drugs to the local.
26:49
This was the licensure was in two steps.
26:54
First, they before they could even go any
26:57
further in the state.
26:59
They had to go through an AMA committee.
27:03
Or I should say I had to go
27:05
through an AMA committee before I could even
27:07
defend myself before the state.
27:10
And um it was in the evening at
27:12
night, actually.
27:14
This was the first part of the license
27:18
uh committee meeting to question him.
27:21
Wow, he was supposed to be there with
27:23
his attorney, and they brought me to I
27:26
wouldn't go in without my wife, so they
27:28
let me in.
27:31
Let Ginger in.
27:34
And um we'd been together at that point
27:36
a few months, maybe.
27:39
No, no, it was two or three, it
27:41
was it a couple years uh two to
27:42
four years, yeah.
27:45
Um 88, 89, like that.
27:53
At the end, to show how effective ginger's
27:55
been is my media rep.
27:59
They said, and don't go and announce this
28:00
And don't go and announce this to the
28:01
to the media because our decision to not
28:02
media because our decision to not bring charges
28:04
bring charges against you.
28:04
against you.
28:06
It's just our decision.
28:06
It's just our decision.
28:08
We don't know what the licensed people are
28:08
We don't know what the licensed people are
28:09
gonna do.
28:09
going to do.
28:13
So um our attorney who was with us,
28:13
So our attorney who was with us, I
28:15
I think said something like, Well, what's at
28:15
think, said something like, Well, let's say home
28:17
home is nothing to do with not gonna
28:17
is nothing to do with not going to
28:19
go to the media.
28:19
go to the media.
28:22
And Ginger said, Yes, we are.
28:22
And Ginger said, Yes, we are.
28:24
I've got a I've got Baltimore's son downstairs
28:24
I've got Baltimore's son downstairs, because this was
28:27
because this was.
28:28
in Baltimore, waiting for the result.
28:33
I've got the home numbers of the New
28:38
York Times science editor and the Washington Post
28:42
editor and the associated press in my pocket.
28:46
And we need to have a bunch of
28:47
quarters in my pocket.
28:49
And we have to, it was before cell
28:51
phones.
28:52
We had to go.
28:53
I said, find me the nearest hotel.
28:56
Yeah.
28:57
And the attorney said, I don't think we
28:58
should do this.
28:59
We had been like um meeting.
29:03
We we we jumped into a little room
29:05
when we left the big meeting and brainstormed
29:08
this before we went down to face the
29:11
Baltimore Sun.
29:14
And the attorney said you should just say
29:15
no comment.
29:18
Because it's going to be slanted when they
29:19
write it.
29:21
No, they we it was not polite.
29:24
We still wanted to be polite.
29:26
Yeah.
29:26
Um, and I said I said our First
29:29
Amendment rights before our medical license.
29:32
Yeah.
29:32
That's right.
29:33
Like it belonged to us both.
29:35
That's right.
29:36
That's wow.
29:38
Well, you're attacking their cash cow, taking on
29:41
the drugs, and that's we were attacking also
29:44
the early forerunners of the whole COVID plot
29:47
to control the world.
29:51
That's absolutely right.
29:52
All of these psychiatric drugs have been to
29:54
control behaviors.
29:56
Yes.
29:56
Of various kinds.
29:58
And basically they all have in common that
30:01
they suppress human behavior.
30:03
Yeah.
30:04
Make us less able.
30:06
Yeah.
30:06
None more.
30:08
Well, again, we were talking earlier about how
30:10
transparent it is to anybody with two brain
30:12
cells to rub together.
30:14
The idea that the DSM increases the number
30:17
of psychiatric illnesses double, triple overnight.
30:21
You know, it'll go in over a five-year
30:22
period.
30:23
You you have the specific numbers a lot
30:26
better than I do, but it'll go from
30:28
50 to 200 to just ridiculous.
30:32
Yeah, yeah.
30:32
And it becomes a thick Bible.
30:34
No, hundreds of pages.
30:36
Hundreds of pages with things like oppositional defiance
30:39
disorder, meaning you speak up for yourself, or
30:42
you you're rebellious as a child.
30:45
I forgot the name of the mathematical one.
30:47
If you have trouble with math and you
30:49
had mathematical aversion disorder or some such name.
30:53
Wonderful.
30:54
That's that's science.
30:55
That's real Fauci science, right?
30:57
And the way they come up with these
30:59
is you guys well know, but for anybody
31:01
that doesn't, you raise your hand, a show
31:02
of hands.
31:04
How many people say this should be voted
31:06
in as a as an illness?
31:09
Okay, the eyes have it.
31:10
This goes into the DSM.
31:12
Yeah, it's a DSA committee vote.
31:14
It's a committee vote.
31:15
Yeah.
31:16
Committee of people almost all of whom make
31:18
money from consulting with the joke.
31:20
Absolutely.
31:21
Absolutely.
31:22
Yeah.
31:23
But again, as you said, a precursor to
31:25
COVID, where the science is anything but its
31:28
consensus and it's consensus with corporate and military
31:31
and other vested interests behind it.
31:34
Yeah, it's about the furthest thing from science
31:35
you can get.
31:37
Yeah.
31:38
You know, one of the things that I've
31:40
found since Peter had his stroke, is some
31:43
of the things he doesn't have immediate memories
31:46
of from before the stroke.
31:49
These are like the social things or the
31:52
some of the reform things.
31:55
And I've pulled out a book that we
31:58
edited and put together with our nonprofit that
32:02
we had at that point in time.
32:05
It was called The Conscience of Psychiatry.
32:08
And it uh it is a compilation of
32:12
over 50 years at that time, I think,
32:15
of accomplishments and activities of Peters that he
32:19
eyes of the media.
32:24
I went through 40 years or 50 years
32:27
of media and um and and pulled out
32:31
uh uh excerpts of various articles that covered
32:34
the campaigns that Peter did that made a
32:37
difference.
32:42
I am how many men get them super
32:44
fan.
32:47
You're fans of each other.
32:49
I love it.
32:49
It's what a marriage would be.
32:51
I certainly am a fan of hers, Michael.
32:53
There you go.
32:53
Well, all that, all that except I get
32:56
cautious around other potential fans.
32:58
She might get there's no need for that,
33:00
honey.
33:04
But all of that reform work that he
33:06
did has saved, oh my gosh, millions of
33:09
lives by now.
33:12
Um I Steve, I'm still blown away when
33:15
I think about how long lobotomy and psychosurgery
33:19
were suppressed after Peter did his reform work
33:23
in the early 70s, because if that that
33:27
when one thinks again that there was brain
33:31
surgery being done on healthy brains to change
33:34
behavior in the early 70s, and it was
33:38
being done uh and considered to be done
33:42
for leaders of the black black movement at
33:46
that point in time and the riots and
33:50
other rebellious groups where that might have continued
33:54
if it was not stopped in its tracks
33:57
at that point in time, and we had
34:01
from there to now uh about not even
34:05
now, but from there to recently, prior to
34:09
Neurolink and some of the others.
34:13
We had almost 50 years where nobody dared
34:16
or almost nobody dared to do psychosurgery on
34:19
healthy brain tissue.
34:23
That is either that by by the proponents
34:27
that's considered a really suppression of experimentation and
34:31
science by uh by me and those of
34:34
us who appreciate human living brains and full-functioning
34:38
brains.
34:42
It was a miracle.
34:46
What you did was a miracle, Peter.
34:48
It is a miracle.
34:49
You saved millions of lives or quality of
34:52
lives with that, with that alone, and then
34:56
your advocacy against electric shock, and uh then
34:59
you're taking apart and exposing what the psychiatric
35:00
Then you're taking apart and exposing what the
35:02
drugs actually do.
35:03
psychiatric drugs actually do.
35:08
Thank you, dear on my birthday.
35:08
Thank you, dear on my birthday.
35:10
You're welcome.
35:10
You're welcome.
35:18
Oh, this is a very mushy show.
35:18
Oh, this is a very mushy show.
35:23
It's a special show.
35:23
It's a special show.
35:24
Thank you.
35:24
Thank you.
35:25
For special birthday and a special math.
35:25
For special birthday and a special man.
35:27
Yeah.
35:27
Yeah.
35:29
So we've got
35:29
So we've got three minutes.
35:31
So I'm doing a radio show with you
35:32
today now.
35:33
You are.
35:34
And we started this morning.
35:36
I'm doing a TV show.
35:38
Yeah.
35:38
Yep.
35:39
Tell people how to.
35:40
How can they listen to that?
35:42
I think you're curious.
35:43
Um what's the name of the word finding?
35:48
Look up the Tamara Scott show.
35:50
And uh Scott.
35:52
Tamara Scott show.
35:54
And I believe you'll be able to in
35:56
Google, and I believe you'll be able to
35:58
find a link.
36:00
And it was the show today, which is
36:02
Monday, May 11th.
36:05
It's on the and it's on a special
36:06
network.
36:08
I can't remember the name of the network.
36:10
That's why I said people should Google.
36:12
Yeah, I'll get you there.
36:14
Yeah.
36:14
Yeah, I've heard her name.
36:16
I'm not familiar with her, but I've proven
36:16
there.
36:18
She's a lovely human being.
36:19
She's a she works with Brandon House.
36:22
Oh, okay, of course.
36:23
And her show airs on the Brandon House's
36:25
network.
36:27
Yeah.
36:28
Yeah.
36:29
Yeah.
36:29
Brandon House.
36:31
He used to have me on his uh
36:34
TV shows when I was doing just psychiatry.
36:38
Wow.
36:38
Wonderful.
36:39
So we have a long relationship.
36:41
Yeah.
36:42
I I was on a podcast probably about
36:44
six months ago.
36:46
I'm trying to remember with whom.
36:47
And afterward, we were just, oh, it was
36:49
Joe Samson, who you guys both know well.
36:52
And uh we were just talking personally about
36:53
his life and so on.
36:55
Then he mentioned both of you and your
36:56
advice.
36:58
I forgot it was something to do with
37:00
Tim dealing with the death of his wife,
37:02
you know, from years earlier.
37:03
And uh yeah, I remember he meant he
37:05
talked about you very fondly.
37:07
So nice.
37:09
Another fan, one of millions.
37:12
Another person that we know and love, yes.
37:14
It's certainly does great work, yeah.
37:17
Yeah.
37:18
Same thing.
37:19
Sometimes he feels like a lone wolf.
37:21
You fight these fights, and it's nice to
37:23
have a big team behind you, and sometimes
37:25
they're not there or they are, but they're
37:27
invisible.
37:28
And it's he's going through the Republican establishment.
37:32
Yeah, yeah.
37:33
It's good to be in itself quite a
37:35
chore.
37:37
That's right.
37:37
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39:03
And we're back with the break in hour
39:04
and Dr.
39:05
Peter Bregan and Ginger Brigham and our guest,
39:07
Steve Miller.
39:10
And Steve, I want to ask you about
39:12
some of what's going on.
39:18
Oh, we won.
39:20
Licensure committee of the state of Maryland.
39:24
Completely exonerated me and said it was strictly
39:26
a freedom of speech issue.
39:29
Terrific.
39:30
They should not have intervened.
39:32
Yeah.
39:32
Which was our basic view.
39:34
Yeah.
39:35
And they thanked me for my contributions to
39:36
mental health and stuff.
39:38
Wow.
39:39
In the state of Maryland, yeah.
39:42
That's wonderful.
39:44
Yeah.
39:44
For a lot of freedom fighters, it's more
39:46
dire, where it's uh you know, crooked jury
39:48
from day one, and you don't have a
39:50
chance.
39:52
So I think ginger's managing of the um
39:57
media, especially making a relationship with Dan Goleman,
40:01
who at the time was the premier.
40:06
Science editor, New York Times.
40:08
That's how I know the name.
40:09
Okay.
40:09
I knew it rang a bell.
40:10
He'd written a book called um Emotional Intelligence.
40:14
Emotionally Q.
40:15
Yeah.
40:16
Yeah.
40:16
So he's gotten famous with this book.
40:18
Yeah.
40:19
But he was the science writer.
40:22
He didn't ever want to talk to me.
40:24
Maybe he thought it'd be more objective if
40:26
he only talked to my wife.
40:28
Well, actually, he talked to Peter eventually.
40:31
But when Peter got home that day after
40:33
he released me, while he was flying home,
40:35
I was calling the New York Times, and
40:38
I got Dan Golem on the phone.
40:40
Good for you.
40:41
Which blew my mind.
40:42
Yeah.
40:43
Yeah.
40:43
So I told him that uh about the
40:45
license attack and so forth, and it went
40:47
from there.
40:49
We got positive three or four positive articles
40:51
out of the New York Times.
40:53
Wow.
40:54
It can be done.
40:55
Yeah, well, it could be done.
40:57
Yeah.
40:58
I must say this was in the 80s,
40:59
and it was before the media was completely
41:01
captured.
41:03
By the 90s in New York Times wanted
41:04
nothing to do with it.
41:05
Forget it.
41:06
Oh, and now yes, we don't even have
41:07
to talk about it.
41:08
Yeah, but they're totally captured now.
41:11
Yeah.
41:11
Now, Steve, would you fill us in on
41:14
the left coast and what's happening politically out
41:16
there at this point in time?
41:19
Sure.
41:20
Well, we have uh a strict adherence to
41:22
the Constitution of the United States.
41:25
Okay, I'm I can dream.
41:27
Uh strong belief in the Bill of Rights.
41:32
All the candidates are great.
41:33
You know, you can't lose with any of
41:34
them.
41:35
All right.
41:36
Reality.
41:38
Um it's hard to believe that somebody who's
41:40
had the effects in a city that the
41:43
current mayor, Mayor Bass has, is running at
41:46
40 plus percent.
41:49
Oh my gosh.
41:50
Yeah, yeah.
41:51
That's according to the polls.
41:53
We'll see.
41:54
And whether even the vote will be accurate
41:56
and honest, who knows?
41:58
But uh in a nutshell, the way it
41:59
works in LA.
42:00
Shell, the way it works in LA, LA
42:01
LA is different than everywhere else in the
42:01
is different than everywhere else in the known
42:03
known universe.
42:03
universe.
42:05
Um it'll be the top two people in
42:06
It'll be the top two people in a
42:07
a runoff, unless one of those people gets
42:09
runoff, unless one of those people gets 50%.
42:09
50%.
42:12
So if then it's then she wins.
42:12
So if then it's then she wins.
42:15
In other words, if somebody gets 50% plus
42:15
In other words, if somebody gets 50% plus
42:17
one, then that's it, it's over.
42:17
one, then that's it, it's over.
42:20
That looks unlikely.
42:20
That looks unlikely.
42:21
Uh, mainly because of the challenge by Spencer
42:21
Uh mainly because of the challenge by Spencer
42:24
Pratt, who's picking up more and more steam.
42:24
Pratt, who's picking up more and more steam.
42:27
Uh he's running at about last I saw
42:27
Uh he's running at about last I saw
42:28
it about.
42:28
at about 11%.
42:31
And then uh Raman, I call her top
42:34
Rahman, who's almost as awful as Karen Bass,
42:36
uh, is at 9%.
42:39
So it looks like it'll be enough that
42:41
it will be a runoff, and then we'll
42:43
be a two-pony race.
42:45
And that'll get interesting because the momentum has
42:47
all been with Pratt.
42:50
Whether he performs the way he says, whether
42:53
it's all, you know, empty hope and PR.
42:56
We'll see, or whether he's the real McCoy.
42:58
Yeah, well, we never know.
43:00
But at least you have a chance with
43:02
him with Brad with Bass.
43:04
Is it's over.
43:05
I mean, no, no, she's the person who
43:07
didn't have the reservoirs full.
43:11
Who didn't deal with the fires the way
43:12
they should have been dealt with.
43:16
Yeah, it's not her fault.
43:16
She was on vacation and somewhere in Guiana
43:18
or wherever the hell she was.
43:21
And she didn't even rush back.
43:22
Uh oh no, she's awful.
43:23
She's unthinkably awful.
43:25
Of course, New York and other cities have
43:27
that have had their awful mayors too.
43:29
But Illinois.
43:31
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
43:32
But one of the things that we found
43:35
when we were researching it was that uh
43:38
there were very vigorous plans to turn LA
43:40
into a UN city.
43:43
Yes, correct.
43:44
Yes, correct.
43:46
Smart cities.
43:47
Smart city where 15 minute cities, smart cities.
43:50
Completely unrelated to the multiple fires, of course.
43:54
Which were right in that area.
43:56
Which were right in that area.
43:57
A lot of coincidences.
44:04
As it came time for the Olympics to
44:06
be out.
44:08
Another coincidence, but only two licenses have been
44:11
issued for rebuilding.
44:14
They're making it impossible because they don't want
44:15
the rebuilding.
44:16
They want these contractors to come in with
44:19
single family homes, each one that looking like
44:22
the other, and them in control and renting
44:24
to people, and the whole the the whole
44:27
Black Rock uh Vanguard State Street uh group
44:30
and Chinese builders coming in, all kinds of
44:33
nasty stuff.
44:36
So it's been uh it's been ugly.
44:40
And Mayor Bass, even the slightest bit of
44:42
research shows she is an acknowledged Marxist, it's
44:45
not even name-calling.
44:48
She that's what she is, that's what she
44:50
believes in.
44:51
And as with mom Donnie in New York,
44:54
it's not even a big deal anymore.
44:58
So she's uh she's awful.
45:01
And it's nice to know we have even
45:03
a shot at saving the city.
45:05
Yeah.
45:06
And the same thing with governor, with the
45:07
governor.
45:08
You have uh Sheriff Bianco, who I've met
45:10
personally, I think he's sincere.
45:13
He sounds it, his ideas sound right.
45:15
Again, there's always the possibility that A, they're
45:17
just saying it to win over the votes,
45:20
or B they mean it, but they go
45:22
bad.
45:25
Uh uh once they get into office and
45:27
the power they get squeezed by the powers
45:29
that be.
45:31
But again, we have a chance.
45:33
We have a chance.
45:34
And the fact that even people like that
45:35
are running is a good sign.
45:39
Yes.
45:39
That's it in a nutshell.
45:41
Yeah, it actually is a very good sign
45:42
that good people are running.
45:44
Because all too often in these uh if
45:48
the these progressive progressive dominated cities, these blue
45:51
areas, yeah.
45:54
Uh the good candidates who may come in
45:58
to oppose the progressive candidates, don't even try.
46:03
They don't even try.
46:04
Yeah.
46:05
And so it's yes, it's good that that's
46:07
happening, and there's a chance.
46:10
There is.
46:11
There is a chance.
46:12
Good.
46:13
Uh there is a rhino on the ticket.
46:15
I don't think much of him.
46:17
Steve Hilton.
46:18
He he sounded okay.
46:19
He was on Fox News.
46:20
He was on Fox News for his own
46:22
show for a while.
46:23
Yeah, but he's on the governor's ticket, right?
46:27
He's on the governor's ticket.
46:28
I I don't have a lot of faith
46:29
that he would do much.
46:30
I think he would be a sellout.
46:32
That's my impression.
46:33
Uh, I would love to see Bianco have
46:34
a chance.
46:36
I'd love to see him have more than
46:37
a chance.
46:39
Who's Bianco?
46:40
Uh his name is Chad Bianco.
46:42
He was formerly sheriff of Riverside County, uh
46:45
large county right outside of LA.
46:49
He was excellent during the pandemic and sticking
46:51
up for people's constitutional rights.
46:54
He's well spoken.
46:56
Uh, I don't know where he's at financially.
46:59
I as I said, I've met him, I
47:01
don't know him well, but we'll see.
47:04
So maybe California can be saved.
47:06
Uh possibly.
47:07
That would be and uh it not only
47:09
would it be great for California, obviously, but
47:12
as California goes, so goes the rest of
47:14
the country, positive or negative.
47:16
California is the trendsetter, as we all know
47:17
for everything.
47:19
Yeah, uh pretty much everything.
47:21
And economically, it really really impacts uh uh
47:24
the globe as well as uh the domestic
47:27
United States because of the uh the shipping
47:29
industry that comes in through the ports and
47:32
that's exactly right.
47:36
Exactly.
47:36
And the oil comes in.
47:39
Yeah, yeah.
47:40
So it would be a major, yeah.
47:44
We've got eight minutes left.
47:45
And Peter, I want to ask you what
47:48
else you'd like to share with people.
47:50
You're 90 years old.
47:52
You've seen things most of us have never
47:54
even at the most, we've studied them a
47:56
little bit.
47:59
You've had some such a rich life, and
48:02
we're gonna continue to have that rich life.
48:05
I'm so lucky.
48:07
Yeah.
48:07
So what would you like to share with
48:08
people?
48:11
Well, I think that uh romantic movies are
48:16
right.
48:22
So we should all pursue love and not
48:25
get discouraged about it.
48:28
That's right.
48:29
And Steve is nodding, and he's got an
48:32
amazing family we've met when we've been interviewing
48:35
him on radio.
48:40
With his wife and daughter.
48:42
The way you guys, I'm sorry to interrupt,
48:44
look at each other, is exactly how Christina
48:46
and I look at each other.
48:48
And the way you describe your communicating with
48:50
each other and helping each other is the
48:51
exact same.
48:53
We love talking to each other, sometimes just
48:55
playful and silly, of course, but often one
48:58
helping the other.
49:00
One somebody once described it, it was a
49:00
One somebody once described it was a great
49:02
great description.
49:02
description.
49:03
He was talking about uh the girl he
49:03
He was talking about uh the girl he
49:05
had just met who and who's uh they're
49:05
had just met who and who's uh they're
49:07
actually fiancés, he was very excited about it.
49:07
actually fiancés, he was very excited about it.
49:09
And he said, She's good at everything I
49:09
And he said, She's good at everything I
49:11
suck at.
49:11
suck at.
49:13
I thought what a great way to describe
49:13
I thought what a great way to describe
49:14
it.
49:14
it.
49:16
You fill in each other's weaknesses and you
49:16
You fill in each other's weaknesses and you
49:17
help each other with those weaknesses to get
49:17
help each other with those weaknesses to get
49:18
better.
49:18
better.
49:20
Yeah, but that's what we do, and I
49:20
Yeah, but that's what we do, and I
49:21
know that's what you guys do and have
49:21
know that's what you guys do and have
49:23
done for years.
49:23
done for years.
49:24
Yeah.
49:24
Yeah.
49:26
Absolutely.
49:26
Absolutely.
49:27
Yeah.
49:27
Yeah.
49:28
And I just want to.
49:28
And uh just want to communicate to people
49:30
too.
49:33
Don't give up on love.
49:35
I had two bad marriages and two divorces.
49:40
I did too, just to even things out
49:41
there.
49:44
God really saw us out there on a
49:47
broken island, broken up islands, and put us
49:50
together.
49:54
Um it's amazing.
49:56
Amazing at all.
49:57
Let anything discourage you because it is really
50:01
worth finding somebody you not only love as
50:04
the most special person you've ever met.
50:07
Don't ever let love be ridiculed.
50:11
I mean, it's been removed from academia.
50:14
It's it's ridiculed and um genuine love between
50:19
a husband and a wife, and the greater
50:24
love that one can have in family and
50:29
community, and through really good friendships.
50:35
It's uh incomparable to anything else in the
50:38
world, and it builds such a foundation.
50:42
That's why they bad guys have to destroy
50:43
it.
50:45
That's right.
50:45
You know, that's exactly what's right.
50:47
The family, the family, the children, the local
50:53
communities, human-sized enterprises that support and inspire individuals,
50:58
all are on the chopping block for attack.
51:04
Uh, because in a world where the globalist
51:10
goal is to control entire populations, you can't
51:15
let that kind of strong independent um growth
51:21
occur between people and local circles of people.
51:27
Yeah, yeah.
51:28
Everything that's anathema to them.
51:31
You know, love, empathy, compassion, real communication, real
51:34
sharing, community.
51:37
Individuality.
51:39
Individuality, which on or not encourages.
51:42
Yeah.
51:43
Yeah.
51:45
I don't think Ginger and I are an
51:47
exception in that regard.
51:49
I think that one of the major characteristics
51:52
of true love is that the other person's
51:55
well-being begins to approximate or even exceed your
51:57
own.
52:00
That's absolutely right.
52:02
That's right.
52:03
And so you're not in conflict with the
52:04
other person.
52:06
You're anything ahead of them in wanting their
52:09
well-being.
52:12
That's right.
52:12
And um that's the message that I found
52:15
myself falling in love with ginger all over
52:18
again.
52:21
After my stroke and in a whole new
52:23
way.
52:26
Wow.
52:27
And um I eventually realized uh the reason
52:31
why I had been so not pursuing her,
52:35
wasn't what I told everybody, which was that
52:39
I was scared to love somebody that much.
52:44
This was before we were together.
52:46
But that um after the stroke and the
52:48
way she was taking care of me and
52:51
devoting herself to me.
52:54
I realized that the characteristics she had was
52:57
not how much I loved her, but how
52:59
much she loved me.
53:02
That's what I couldn't deal with.
53:04
Wow.
53:05
Because it's like a game changer if you
53:08
haven't known much nurturing as a child.
53:11
Right.
53:12
Um, or if it came to a bad
53:14
end.
53:16
Um I didn't have a framework for believing
53:20
that somebody actually meant the things she would
53:23
say to me.
53:26
So they sort of went sip right by
53:30
my ears, like I just didn't grasp them.
53:35
I didn't believe that anybody could really mean
53:37
that about it, about me.
53:40
Well, yeah, I get it.
53:42
Yeah, those traumas from childhood, they kill us
53:44
all, don't they?
53:48
Yeah, they come back.
53:48
Well, they never left, unfortunately, they're sitting right
53:50
there.
53:52
Yeah, and then a lot of the you
53:55
know, it was being a lot of the
53:58
not coupling and not loving, not treasuring life,
54:02
not treasuring the pregnant woman.
54:05
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of really
54:08
fundamental things that are being undermined in society,
54:11
but discourage a young man from a young
54:14
woman for just believing in building a relationship
54:17
forever.
54:21
Um I had no concept of that when
54:25
I became disappointed with my marriages, I just
54:29
ended them.
54:33
And uh that uh bringing that attitude into
54:38
a marriage made it impossible because I wasn't
54:42
giving enough to the women.
54:48
So I would just want to encourage people,
54:49
give love.
54:51
It is the greatest power you have.
54:54
Sure is and in a broader sense, that
54:57
means in your everyday life where you where
55:00
you move and where you with people that
55:03
you encounter, like your description, Steve, of walking
55:06
along and meeting people when you're doing your
55:09
walk and greeting them.
55:12
That can make a person's day.
55:15
Christina always says, You loved your walks, don't
55:16
you?
55:18
And it goes way beyond any physical, obviously.
55:21
It's that that's a benefit, but that's not
55:23
maybe that was the original purpose, but not
55:24
anymore.
55:26
Yeah, it really is exciting just to see
55:28
and to get where people, you know, everybody
55:31
is just this whole unique person.
55:34
Many of them don't have, and this is
55:35
the sad part.
55:36
Uh, we're very lucky, all of us, but
55:38
uh the people that don't have someone, whether
55:40
they're married or not, but even if they
55:42
are if it's a bad marriage and they
55:44
don't have someone they can trust and confide
55:46
in, and they're just I mean, it comes
55:49
all out in the first 30 seconds.
55:51
If you're open to it and you're willing
55:53
to listen, boy, you'll get a mouthful.
55:56
Well, we're out of time, and I want
55:57
you to very quickly tell people how they
55:59
can find you.
56:00
Can find you.
56:01
Um, they could write me an S.
56:01
Um, they could write me at S Miller
56:03
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56:03
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56:06
Again, S asn'steve Miller, 725 at AOL.com, or
56:06
Again, S asn Steve Miller 725 at AOL.com
56:08
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56:08
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56:11
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56:11
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56:13
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56:20
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56:24
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56:25
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56:26
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56:27
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56:28
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56:29
I'll direct you there.
56:30
That's great.
56:31
Thanks a lot, Steve.
56:32
Thank you, guys.