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I Am All In…Again: Knock on Wood (Season 2 E11 “Secrets and Loans”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all in Again. It's you. I Am all
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  Speaker 1: in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey everybody,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one eleven productions,
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  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast Season two, Episode eleven, Secrets and
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  Speaker 1: Loans Their Day. January twenty second, two thousand and two.
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  Speaker 1: We are welcoming. Are one of our favorites team member.
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  Speaker 1: Here she is, you know her, you love her, the
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  Speaker 1: amazing Suzanne French. Suzanne, Hello, we don't get You're like
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  Speaker 1: a Now You're like a superstar. You're a total superstar
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  Speaker 1: in the Gilmour universe. You've got your own segment now
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  Speaker 1: right Tarrant, and it's rocking the ratings. It's rocking and rolling.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting deals, you're going on fancy vacations, You're kite
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  Speaker 1: surfing with princes and kings and queens. It's it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: What's happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an amazing lifestyle that I'm leading this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's good to see you you too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't done this for a while.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't done it for a while, and we find
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  Speaker 1: ourselves with a Nicole Haloff Center directed Linda Guzik written
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  Speaker 1: episode lorel I finds at the house's termites and needs repairs,
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  Speaker 1: but none of the banks in the area are going
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  Speaker 1: to give her a loan. Who could have saw that coming, Susanne.
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  Speaker 1: Emily tries, who could have said? You know, it was shocking.
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  Speaker 1: I was shocked.
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  Speaker 2: A wooden house with termites, A wooden.
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  Speaker 1: House with termites, and the banks don't think she's good
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  Speaker 1: for the Monday so so uh. Emily tries to help
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  Speaker 1: by talking to some of her connections, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: the bank president. They're good friends. Another shocker, right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: much to Laurelized dismay, which was even more shocking that
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  Speaker 1: laurel I disapproved. There's termites at Laurelized house. She goes
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  Speaker 1: out to grab morning paper and falls through the porch.
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  Speaker 1: That was good. I like that. I like the opening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good with the doors, the case arocera.
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  Speaker 2: I liked this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the no dialogue opening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We only got a couple of those in the
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  Speaker 2: whole seasons, and that was They're fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. She just walks in, smiles at Rory, and then
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  Speaker 1: goes outside and falls through the porch. All right, Kirk
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  Speaker 1: comes over to check under the house and he found
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  Speaker 1: thousands of termites. The repairs are going to cause fifteen
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  Speaker 1: grand fifteen large, and Loyal is horrified by that. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know how she's gonna come up with the money, and
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  Speaker 1: gets after she gets turned down by a number of
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  Speaker 1: banks for the loan. Roy suggests asking Emily, but laurel
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  Speaker 1: I refuses because she doesn't want another obligation to her parents.
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  Speaker 1: Because Friday Night dinners, even though they are torture, torture
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  Speaker 1: for loreal I, they bring the fan base great joy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I must say the most. It's always good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Rory brings up the terminit problem at Friday Night Dinner
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  Speaker 1: against Loural ied wishes didn't listen to her mom, right
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  Speaker 1: she got she got hot water as a result, causing
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  Speaker 1: a big fight. Okay, Luke offers to grant Larelai alone.
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  Speaker 1: He was going to grant her alone, but she's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna take money off him. Right. Thought. I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was a good I thought it was a good deal.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Lukey made it a good deal.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was her best option.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, that's a star's hollow solution
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  Speaker 1: and the community coming together. The entire point of the show,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, you know, one of the pillars
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  Speaker 1: of the show.
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  Speaker 2: I think if Rory hadn't forced her hand by saying
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  Speaker 2: something to Emily, I think Laurla I would have eventually
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  Speaker 2: come back around to Luke and said, all right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to borrow money from a friend, but
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  Speaker 2: you're my only option. I think that would have been
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  Speaker 2: where she landed if Rory hadn't forced it through Emily.
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  Speaker 1: Take me through the thought process Laurla's thought process. Rejecting
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  Speaker 1: Luke's offer out of hand. Why, Well, I think she.
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  Speaker 2: Probably didn't want to borrow money from a friend, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like you never want to mix. I mean, we know
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  Speaker 2: she does it later, but at the time, I think
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  Speaker 2: she just didn't want to introduce a financial obligation into
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  Speaker 2: that friendship. That would be my.
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  Speaker 1: That's the main reason. Yeah, that makes sense, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: neither a borrower or a lender. B right, exactly, According
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  Speaker 1: to Billy Shakes, All right, okay, well, the banker agrees,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to give her the loan because it's all that.
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  Speaker 1: That was actually a funny scene.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good scene.
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  Speaker 1: That was a funny scene.
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  Speaker 2: Richard Klein from Three's Company.
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  Speaker 1: Richard Klein, here we go. Termites, Susan, Have you had termites?
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  Speaker 1: Have you had any kind of pain in the ass
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  Speaker 1: house issues?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think every house in southern California has termites.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you can escape it.
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  Speaker 1: Right right right?
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  Speaker 2: We did when we bought our current house. We did
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  Speaker 2: have to have the termite tentting done to get the more.
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  Speaker 1: You did the tenting and you executed the termites.
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  Speaker 2: Yes we did. Oh gosh, all the bugs they were
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  Speaker 2: all gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I haven't done that yet. I don't think I've
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  Speaker 1: had the need to do it. Knock on wood, Well, no,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to knock on wood. It might fall apart.
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  Speaker 2: Through it.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, should Laura? I have just taken the money from Emily.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just the woman's loaded, Just take it, take it? What? Yes? No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean just take the money.
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  Speaker 2: Is string free with Emily, Like Lorala, I just has
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  Speaker 2: such a history of everything coming with strings, and so
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't blame her for want not wanting
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  Speaker 2: to go to her parents right away. I thought Rory
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  Speaker 2: overstepped on.
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  Speaker 1: That solve the problem. She was kid gonna lose her house,
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  Speaker 1: She'll want to do that solve the problem? Mom? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you and your silly pride. Come on, mom, solved the problem.
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  Speaker 2: I can understand Rory's anxiety, But at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: Laura I wasn't ignoring it, and she's not gonna just
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  Speaker 2: let the house crumble around them like she's gonna do something.
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  Speaker 2: She just needed some more time to process. And so
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  Speaker 2: so I thought Rory was out of bounds by going
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  Speaker 2: to Emily when Lorelay, twenty minutes earlier, had said, don't
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  Speaker 2: ask my mother about this, and that's the first thing
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  Speaker 2: Rory did. I would have been pissed at her too.
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  Speaker 1: How hard is it accept money from a parent? I
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  Speaker 1: mean how hard is that? I wouldn't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't either, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I get a crowbar. I couldn't get a crowbar out
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  Speaker 1: of my parents' wallet. I mean it's just like, jeez,
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  Speaker 1: what about you? Right? Money was tight? Tight? Yeah? Yeah, jesus.
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  Speaker 1: I mean she's ready to write a check for fifteen K,
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  Speaker 1: no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dropping the bucket for them. But you know, it
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  Speaker 2: just depends on the relationship. I mean, some people wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have a problem with it, but you know clearly that
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  Speaker 2: parent child relationship is very complicated.
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  Speaker 1: Because Loralai is woman.
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  Speaker 2: Hear her roar, yes exactly, but so is Emily.
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  Speaker 1: So that she's like, Helen ready this whole episode? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: is that Helen ready? Yes? It was okay, I can't
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  Speaker 1: I did you see that? And I did it in
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  Speaker 1: front of the master, you know everything, all right. So
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to take it from Luke because you
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  Speaker 1: know we've discussed. But is Luke overstepping it just seems
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  Speaker 1: like he always wants to solve all of her problems, right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Luke was overstepping. I think I think
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  Speaker 2: it was a nice gesture and you know, he saw
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  Speaker 2: that she was in need and he was just trying
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  Speaker 2: to help her out, just you know, like a friend would.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't I didn't see it as like paternalistic
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that. I thought he was just being
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  Speaker 2: a friend.
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  Speaker 1: But he was really fatalistic about you know, he was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh shucks, Yeah, I guess you're not going to take it.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to because you're you're a roll and
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  Speaker 1: ready all right. We know obviously Rory put her mom
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  Speaker 1: in a difficult fix here by by opening her mouth
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I think, like I said, I I
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  Speaker 2: understand her anxiety. I mean I did too, But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, I think what really bothered me about
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  Speaker 2: it was the fact that Laurrela I very explicitly said
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  Speaker 2: don't do this thing, and then Rory immediately turns around
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  Speaker 2: and does the thing. So I think if Laurela I
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  Speaker 2: hadn't been so clear about I'm not going to ask
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  Speaker 2: my mother about this, it wouldn't have bothered me so much.
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  Speaker 2: But because Laurel I very clearly said, don't ask her
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  Speaker 2: about this, and I thought it was I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of bratty the way that
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  Speaker 2: Rory acted, and it wasn't it was isn't her place
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  Speaker 2: to do that? It was it was loralized place, And
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  Speaker 2: I think she would she just needed a little more
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  Speaker 2: time to think about it. Like I said, she wasn't
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  Speaker 2: gonna let the house fall down around them. She just
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  Speaker 2: needed a little more time to work on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, if they were just friends and they were
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  Speaker 1: the same age, not mother daughter, and that happened, that
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  Speaker 1: friendship would have ended, right.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been hard to come back from that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, were you shocked at Emily wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do something just nice out of the good kindness of
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  Speaker 1: her heart for a daughter. Was that? Was that shocking?
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't, are there really But here's
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  Speaker 1: the question, are there really no strings attached? Well?
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  Speaker 2: See, that's the thing with Emily. I never feel very
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  Speaker 2: charitable towards Emily. Well, sometimes I do, but this was
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  Speaker 2: not one of those cases. I don't think that anything
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  Speaker 2: with Emily comes without strings attached. And we saw it
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  Speaker 2: at the end, right she says, I just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do something nice. But then at the very end she's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm having all my daar meetings at the inn now,
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  Speaker 2: so there were strength.
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  Speaker 1: So why is that a bad thing that puts money
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  Speaker 1: in Lorelized pocket? Well? Why was that? Why was that?
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  Speaker 1: I said, I didn't get that ending? What's what's the
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  Speaker 1: big deal? Because now now Emily's interface telling her what
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  Speaker 1: to do, and more opportunities for Emily to tell laurel
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  Speaker 1: Ize she's screwing up and she didn't get the napkins
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  Speaker 1: right and she didn't do this right or but you know,
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  Speaker 1: so that's the risk there, that's what laurel is reacting to.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess it's open to interpretation because I took
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  Speaker 2: it to mean that Emily was going to have her
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  Speaker 2: meetings there for free, like they was just Laurel. I
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  Speaker 2: was just going to offer them the space and they
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  Speaker 2: weren't going to rent it, So that was maybe that
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  Speaker 2: was just a difference in interpretation, but that's what I
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  Speaker 2: thought Emily meant. But there is also the element that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, however often these dar meetings are that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be Emily, like you just said, all up in
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  Speaker 2: her business, and you know she likes to keep her
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  Speaker 2: world separate and she can't do that when Emily's showing
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  Speaker 2: up at her work.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, that's it, that's it. Yeah, those worlds
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  Speaker 1: don't want to collide. Yeah, all right, all right. Ps
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  Speaker 1: let's go the PSAT scores. This was the weird Rory
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  Speaker 1: gets fifteen hundred right combined, pretty good, higher in math
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  Speaker 1: and verbal, which is you know, another shock. Paris is
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  Speaker 1: thrilled by her scores, but they're ten points lower on each,
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  Speaker 1: so twenty points lower total and pretty funny scene busting
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  Speaker 1: at the seams wanting to tell Madeline Louis They yes.
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  Speaker 2: Rory asked, She's just dying for someone to ask her what.
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  Speaker 1: And she won't tell Paris to score. Now you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's Rory keeping a classic mm hmm and also driving
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  Speaker 1: parents absolutely crazy, which is you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the side benefit, one of the benefits.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember taking the PSATs? How'd you do?
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember? You know?
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  Speaker 2: I do not remember taking the PSAT. I remember the SAT.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't take a psah, Yeah I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I probably did because I was I was like Rory.
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  Speaker 2: I was in all those honors classes, so I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: I took it. I just don't remember. But the I
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  Speaker 2: remember the SAT because the kid next to me threw
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  Speaker 2: up in the middle of the test. Wow, So I
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  Speaker 2: will never forget this. The SATs were pretty memorable.
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  Speaker 1: But that didn't say you just like you just flamed
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  Speaker 1: it off your arm and kept going lank.
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  Speaker 2: Goodness. It wasn't like a projectile thing, but it was
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  Speaker 2: all over his scan trot.
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  Speaker 1: So, oh, man, if you're Rory, would you have shared
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  Speaker 1: your score? I?
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  Speaker 2: I probably, you know, I don't know. I might have
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  Speaker 2: if my score was higher than hers, I might want
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  Speaker 2: to just revel in that a little bit, So maybe
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  Speaker 2: I would. But at the same time, you could tell
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  Speaker 2: that Rory was having fun just totally not telling her
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  Speaker 2: and kind of baiting her. She was enjoying that, like
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  Speaker 2: she had a smile on her face when when she
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  Speaker 2: was doing that.
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  Speaker 1: The unpredictable nature of the Paris personality prevents one from
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  Speaker 1: sharing his higher score. Yes, if you're in her universe
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  Speaker 1: and you just never know what she's capable of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. There could have been violence, Yeah, there could
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  Speaker 1: have been something. Lane, the cheerleader, cheerleader Lane, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, leader Lane, that was an odd choice, I thought.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, Rory spots are outside the school with
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  Speaker 1: the cheerleader uniform on. Yeah, and uh they Lauryan and
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  Speaker 1: Lane get into a kind of a very satisfying argument
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  Speaker 1: over it because she forgot one of her palms and
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  Speaker 1: one's a pomp to her one's a palm to her palms.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, palm pom poms.
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  Speaker 1: Pomp poms versus palm. Right. Lane says that she's been instant,
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  Speaker 1: that Rory's been distant. She's gonna judge, that's why she
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  Speaker 1: didn't tell her. So she's so show support for Lane
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  Speaker 1: by showing up to her pep rally and it was
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  Speaker 1: a good pep rally. And she tells Lane she makes
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  Speaker 1: cheerleading cool. Cheerleading's cool again? Are you surprised they chose
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  Speaker 1: cheerleading for Lane? It was kind of like right there
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  Speaker 1: in our face. I mean, it was like, I did think.
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  Speaker 2: It was a little odd. I found that hard to
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  Speaker 2: believe that that missus Kim would be on board with
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  Speaker 2: her daughter picking that particular activity.
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  Speaker 1: Why because there's like a Jezebel effect and the boys
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  Speaker 1: are gonna think she's sexy or something, and she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want her.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't knowing, you know, she's just missus Kim
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  Speaker 2: is just so conservative and hyper religious and right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: running around and now it was winter, so Lane had
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  Speaker 2: tights on, but running around in a short skirt and
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  Speaker 2: things like that. I just I thought it was an
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  Speaker 2: odd an odd choice. I mean, I liked that Lane
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  Speaker 2: got to do something that she was enjoying. She told
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  Speaker 2: Rory it was fun, and so I liked that part
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  Speaker 2: of it because I think Lane kind of gets the
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  Speaker 2: short end of the stick a lot. But yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did. I was a little surprised that it was
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  Speaker 2: cheerleading and not some other extra.
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  Speaker 1: Know, we missed, we missed those episodes of that scenes
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  Speaker 1: or those scenes where missus Kim is saying, no, daughter
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  Speaker 1: of Mike will be chilly. Yes, it will not be
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  Speaker 1: fluffing pump umps, you know, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, where where's all that that great comedy? Where
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  Speaker 1: is it? Why did they?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that could have been right there and they just
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  Speaker 2: didn't pick it.
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  Speaker 1: Up but missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really all right.
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  Speaker 1: So we're getting we're getting into this uh Friday night
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  Speaker 1: dinner at the Gilmours, right, and Laura I tells Emily
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  Speaker 1: they started to work on the house, you know, cutting
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  Speaker 1: through the tension, right, the silence, but she seems totally uninterested.
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  Speaker 1: Emily just you know, she's doing her Emily thing where
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  Speaker 1: she's hurt, right, right, she does that, she shuts down,
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  Speaker 1: she won't look at Emily.
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  Speaker 2: Walks off with to get more bread.
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  Speaker 3: When the more bread, Emily's pouting exactly And then Laurel
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  Speaker 3: I Waltz is in and apologize and yeah, maybe she
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  Speaker 3: should have, right, and thanks for cone signing alone.
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  Speaker 1: And this is when Emily adds it she'll be having
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  Speaker 1: her DAR meetings at the end from now on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I loved the closing where Laura I just
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  Speaker 2: says she's good And.
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  Speaker 1: Then who do you think holds a better grudge Emily
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  Speaker 1: or Lola. Oh Emily bye, She's the master of the grudge.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, She's had decades of experience holding a grudge against.
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  Speaker 1: Laura Off, beating her in a grudge in competition. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's spent her She spent Lorelai's whole life punishing
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  Speaker 2: her for you know, her perceived so definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Emily right, her whole life is just he's giving Emily
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  Speaker 1: an excuse to hold a grudge.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Even in the last episode, the Bracebridge Dinner episode, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Richard gave Lorelai a very nice compliment about how great
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  Speaker 2: the whole evening was, and all Emily says is your
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  Speaker 2: dress needs to be pressed, right, Like that's that's just Emily.
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  Speaker 2: She can't she can't help herself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So it looks like Rory was right. She brought
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  Speaker 1: the problem to the forefront, to the family, and in
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the end it did get them the money. Right. But
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was a hard ass. I knew,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, Emily is going to say, yes,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: they've always been generous with their money. That was never
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: going to be a no. But right here, maybe again
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: is a missed opportunity where Emily could have applied strings
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that we didn't see common. Yeah, what could those what
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: could those strings have been?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that Emily would always I
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: could very easily hear in my mind some future episode
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: where Laurel I does something that Emily doesn't like and
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: then Emily is going to say, you know, I can't
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: believe you would do this after I co signed that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: loan with you. I could totally see Emily throwing it
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: back in Laurel's face in the future. And so yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I mean Rory did, in a roundabout way, end up
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: getting them the money, but at the same time, it
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: should have been Laurelized decision how that was going.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: To come about. You know, I thought along and hard
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: about this. I think a sleepless night, up all night
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: thinking about this question. I'm going back and forth. You know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Emily Laurla What's what's going on with these two? And
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it's something I obsess about, and I, you know what
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: hit me and I finally fell asleep and then I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: rock it awake and I'm like, I got it. It
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: was very dramatic, you know what I think?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I think Emily just wants to be around the little life.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I think she likes being around her.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I think she does. I think she doesn't always she was.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: She's a product of her own upbringing. Like Emily clearly
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: was not raised in a family that showed affection very much,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and so she didn't raise her own daughter that way,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and so I think Emily often goes about it the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: wrong way. But I think she does want to spend
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: time with her daughter, but the way she does it,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: she ends up just pushing her farther away because she
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: just is so mean and nasty about everything.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But she's lonely. I think she wants a relationship with
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: her daughter, and she doesn't have the first clue how
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to be in a relationship with her daughter or what
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, Friday night dinners is one thing, right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: but it's just and she's throwing parties for Rory graduation
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: or whatever the occasion is making and trying to make
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: special and I think she just miss I think she
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: wants she's missing in her life. Emily is. You know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: girls go to lunch and have fun and have a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: couple of drinks and tell each other funny stories or
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: or you know, yeah, maybe go on a family vacation together,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: or you know, get close to my daughter, get you know.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I think there's something there there, right, Yeah, like she's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: missing in there's a hole in her life, and it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: this relationship with Lorelei, and it's her own damn fault,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and she knows it's her own damn fault.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know that she knows it's her own fault though.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think she has a lot of self awareness
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: into that, and because she keeps pushing laurel I away
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: over and over and over, and then she turns around
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: to Richard and says, I don't know why Laurelai doesn't
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: like me. I don't know that she has that much
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: self awareness about it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: There are moments, and there have been enough moments of
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: realization where we see Emily in real pain, but she
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: just beating herself up in that brief moment. Damn I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: screwed up. Damn, I really screwed this up. And I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: think she's just maybe she's just trying to make up
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, there definitely are those moments too.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about your what do you what You're redefining
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the podcast space, you are making everyone, you know, nervous.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: A lot of podcasters are just they're listening to your podcast.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: They're throwing up their hands, they're quitting. They know they're
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: not going to.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Do that's happened yet.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Now it hasn't happened yet. Are you sure? Do you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: have a stalker yet? Do you have a stalker?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Not that I know of.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Tell us about your segment. Tell us about your segment.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: What's it called.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It's the town Meeting Meeting. It's it's Tara and I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: revisiting the episodes, not in a recap sense, but more
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: kind of the deep dive into some of the nitty
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: gritty details of the episodes. And and you know, we're
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: stalking the clown pillow, just various things that we see
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in the background that are funny or you know, continuity
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: errors things like that. So yeah, it's it's a it's
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: fun too. I think some people might think we're being
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: too critical, but we're not really being critical because we
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: love the show. I mean, we love the almost all
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the episodes. But it's just kind of looking at it
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: through a different lens, because when you've seen the episodes
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: so many times, you don't need to be looking at
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the principal actors in the scene. You could be looking
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: at the background and notice how things change or notice
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you know, the fake eating and things like that. So
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: it's fun to kind of, you know, see those things
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: in the background when.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The or the air filled to go coffee cups. Yes,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some of this episode.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: The very was I know.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: You've got two styrofunk cups and she's like holding him
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: at a weird angle and they're not that fall.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: They're not that fall. Tell us more, tell us more.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: It's you know, I'm just really enjoying it. I'm grateful
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: for the opportunity, and it's fun to go back through
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and rewatch all the episodes. It's sometimes it's hard to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: only watch one, like I wanted going right take myself
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: not watch the next episode. But yeah, it's been fun.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Tar is great to work with. We went to that
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: convention in Connecticut a while back in April. That was
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: super fun. We met some fans there.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm heading back there. Oh yeah. September twelfth, thirteenth, and fourteenth,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a weekend in the Life New Milford, Connecticut. They're doing
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: it again. It's going to be a fall situation. Yes, maybe.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If there's snow on the ground in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: September over there, probably not, but there was last time
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I was there September twelfth and fourteenth. I think there
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: might be some announcements for the thirteenth for me as well.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: But July twenty four and twenty fifth, kids, I'm going
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to be in Raleigh, North Carolina at Galaxy Con. So
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: come on by. That's a Thursday and a Friday at
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Galaxy Con. Let me tell you something about Galaxy Con Raleigh.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That is a big convey and it's so big, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: it's so popular, and it's grown so much since the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: last time I did it, and it's been three four years.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I did it with Sean Gunn and Michael Rooker and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it has grown to the point where you know, the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: fire Marshal is involved and he's like, no, you can't
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: have this many people in this massive convention space on Saturday. No,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you can't have these massive amounts of people Sunday. You
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: have to just spread it out. So they suggested Thursday
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and Friday. So the con said, yeah, it's a great idea,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: let's do that. Oh wow. So it's just it's so
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: many people. It's so popular, and they're coming from all
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: over the country and you know, some some different parts
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of the world as well, because you know, we know
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Raleigh's beautiful, yeah, and North Carolina is just such a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: beautiful state. And the people I tell you, they're they're
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Gilmour fans and they love to sell it. Right, So
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: come on out July twenty four to twenty fifth, come
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: see me. Say hello, let's let's swap some stories. Galaxy
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Con Raleigh, North Carolina. Suzanne, it's been a pleasure. Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: let's not. Let's not wait so long, right, Yeah, I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: know your dance cards really full now that you're a
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: big podcasting star on iHeartRadio with your own segment now listen.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I I feel so comfortable with Susanna and I kid
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: around with Suzanne because John, her husband, and Suzanne have
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: been with me for you know, for a while now,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: right through the music stuff, and I mean this goes
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: back like ten years or so almost. We even made
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a video. We even made a music video on the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: beach for one of the songs released. It didn't go
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: so well, did it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: It was it was fun. We didn't produce a lot
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of usable content, but.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: It was fun tried, We tried, right.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to do with just an iPhone, you know.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: It's hard. Yeah, we needed.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: A crew, Yeah, you needed somebody professional.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: What a hair brain scheme that was. But I appreciate
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you know what, I really appreciate you guys getting up
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and driving. You know, we gave it a shot. We
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: did give it a shot. And those that long lost
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: footage may never be unearthed ever. Look, we had some
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: nice moments with the seagulls flew flew through the key
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: moments of the song.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, remember stuff in there.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: There was some magic happened a little bit, but there
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: was so much non magic in it, yeah, that it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: hard to like, you know, you gotta sit around for
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of minutes from like a seagull flying through.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: There wasn't enough magic to string together. Yeah, it was
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a good time.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: It was It was a good time. It's a good time.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And then in the recording studio too.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you were there, and that's right when we
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: put together three songs, right, yeah, Yeahamica, that famous studio.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah we're Setwood Mac recorded.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: That's right. There was gold albums and platinum albums all
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: over the dam place. Not no pressure at all, you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: standing in the booth where Stevie Nicks belted it out
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: all those big songs. Yeah right, and now I still
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: hear them on the radio and I'm like, wow, what
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: a voice. Yeah, what a talent. You know, it's just
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: so cool. Anyway, Susanne continued success. Thank you, and you're
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: doing a great job and fans love you. And we're
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: going to do some more great things. Holidays made here
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: coming up, you know, for at Warner Brothers, for twenty for.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: The the official twenty fifth is here.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some good stuff. We've got some good
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: stuff coming up to the fans. They're gonna love it. Anyway,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: talk soon. Thank you all the best, Thanks for joining us.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.