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NEW: Prince Harry Wants To Reconcile With Prince William, But Already Has To Clarify His Comments · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, October 21st, and we
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  Speaker 1: are hearing from Prince Harry in a wide-ranging, brand-new interview.
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  Speaker 1: His first time that he's commented, really, about the relationship
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  Speaker 1: between him and his brother since he moved back to
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  Speaker 1: the UK. And it sounds like Harry is open to
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  Speaker 1: patch things up. William, we're not so sure. And with that,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Harry has
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  Speaker 1: spoken before about a desire... to reconcile with the family.
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  Speaker 1: And he's kind of reiterating that point. But this is
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  Speaker 1: a big deal. He's doing an interview now that he's
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  Speaker 1: moved back. And so this will be paid attention to.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And it's kind of interesting because we reported it
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  Speaker 2: was just a couple weeks ago. He was here in
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  Speaker 2: New York City surrounding events at the UN. And that
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  Speaker 2: is when he sat down with GQ magazine.
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  Speaker 1: After we had drinks with him. But yes.
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  Speaker 2: You weren't supposed to tell anyone.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, sorry. Sorry, Harry.
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  Speaker 2: But so this was all shot in late September here
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  Speaker 2: in New York City, but it was released officially on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: October 20th. And unfortunately, look, it was a 42-minute interview,
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  Speaker 2: and it was interesting, but now Harry's camp is already
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  Speaker 2: having to explain at least one comment. And look, I
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  Speaker 2: watched the whole thing. It's clear he was not Making
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  Speaker 2: or taking a dig at his family. That's the last
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  Speaker 2: thing he was trying to do. But some have already
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  Speaker 2: interpreted that maybe he was taking a swipe at William
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  Speaker 2: or at King Charles. And they had to already come
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  Speaker 2: out and say that's not what he meant. That's not
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  Speaker 2: what he said. Everything's so sensitive around this. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You can't say anything, right? And that comment, I know
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  Speaker 1: you're going to talk about it, but it was a
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  Speaker 1: matter of if you read it in print versus if
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  Speaker 1: you see it. Correct. It clearly comes off.
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  Speaker 2: And I would encourage everyone to, it's actually a really
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  Speaker 2: interesting interview. You get to see Harry's personality. It's a
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  Speaker 2: very casual conversation. And mostly it was centered around this masterclass,
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  Speaker 2: this online masterclass he did with a famed doctor about
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  Speaker 2: grief and about overcoming grief and dealing with grief about
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  Speaker 2: the loss of his mother. So that was the main
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  Speaker 2: crux of the interview. But we got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: interesting information there. about where he and Meghan and his
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  Speaker 2: family is right now, that they've moved to the UK.
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  Speaker 2: But the biggest headlines, of course, were surrounding his relationship
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  Speaker 2: with the royal family.
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  Speaker 1: And again, he has hinted at this. And Robes, even
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  Speaker 1: if you hadn't read his comments over the past year
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  Speaker 1: or so or seen these, his behavior suggests he really
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  Speaker 1: would like to reconcile, certainly with his father. That relationship
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  Speaker 1: is already getting better. But man, these brothers... It seems
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  Speaker 1: like William is done for life with his brother. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: If you read any royal insiders who claim to have information,
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  Speaker 2: there's no one who has said anything other than this.
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  Speaker 2: Prince William and Princess Kate want nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan, period. And that will be something that
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  Speaker 2: isn't going to change. So we shall see. Time will tell.
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  Speaker 2: But Harry at least seems very open to the idea
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  Speaker 2: of mending some of these bridges that some would argue
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  Speaker 2: he exploded, that he tore down.
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  Speaker 1: Or they say don't burn bridges, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's hard to build them back, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: And Harry is experiencing that. I thought it was interesting
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  Speaker 2: because the conversation was around grief. The reporter was very
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  Speaker 2: clever in how he asked if grief, if he grieves
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  Speaker 2: his complicated relationship with his dad and brother. I like
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  Speaker 2: how he did that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I remember doing that with Will Smith actually once.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you bring up Jada and that whole situation.
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  Speaker 1: And I kind of remember how I said it. He said, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just trying to dip your toe in there a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: aren't you? They're so used to that. You see J-Lo
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  Speaker 1: be very good at this. They're always trying to ask
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  Speaker 1: her relationship questions some kind of way, and she gets it.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, the interviewer, I give him credit on this.
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  Speaker 2: Do you grieve your complicated relationship with your dad and
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  Speaker 2: brother as we talk about grief? And Harry said, yes,
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  Speaker 2: of course. And I thought this was cool. He acknowledged
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  Speaker 2: that continues to come up with me the whole time
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  Speaker 2: by people that I speak to. So I know how
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  Speaker 2: relatable it is. That's probably why there's so much fascination.
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  Speaker 2: And then people maybe look at us and go, how
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  Speaker 2: are you going to work it out? And then maybe.
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  Speaker 2: how I see you're going to work it out, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe that will help me work my stuff out. And
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  Speaker 2: some people don't want it to work out. I want
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  Speaker 2: it to work out. Of course I do. With everything
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  Speaker 2: else that's going on in the world, the most important
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  Speaker 2: thing is to reconcile. That's the key point. So it's
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  Speaker 2: very obvious when he's talking. He is talking about how
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  Speaker 2: his situation with his family, obviously relatable to so many
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  Speaker 2: other people who have fractures within theirs, and that he's
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  Speaker 2: acknowledging some people in other families don't want to work
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  Speaker 2: it out. They don't have a desire. But he's saying,
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  Speaker 2: I do. So when he was saying some people, he
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  Speaker 2: was talking about all those other people he was referencing
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  Speaker 2: who also know what it's like to have a problematic
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  Speaker 2: family dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: And we get that. That makes perfect sense. But if
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  Speaker 1: you were just reading it and saw that, some would...
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  Speaker 1: Maybe have taken it another way.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. That he was saying some people, meaning, well, my
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  Speaker 2: brother doesn't want to work it out, but I do.
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  Speaker 2: That is not what he was saying. So Harry's spokesperson
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  Speaker 2: actually had to clarify and put out this statement. Some
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  Speaker 2: people was absolutely not intended as a swipe at his
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  Speaker 2: brother or any other member of his family. The comment
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  Speaker 2: was made in a general context and was not directed
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  Speaker 2: at his family in any way.
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  Speaker 1: We get it. It's just too bad that that had
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  Speaker 1: to be said. But everything, every little word, everything is
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  Speaker 1: so sensitive. And Robes, even him putting that out probably
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  Speaker 1: is an indication of just how desperate he might be
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  Speaker 1: that he had to come out like, oh, not to
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  Speaker 1: be clear here. It's what a mess.
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  Speaker 2: It is. And so the interviewer then went on to
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  Speaker 2: ask if he thought if Harry thought he could repair
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  Speaker 2: the rift. that is obviously ongoing between him and soon
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  Speaker 2: to be one day King William. And Harry said this, look,
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  Speaker 2: scars stick around forever. But letting go of the past
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  Speaker 2: is something that I would encourage everybody to do. For me,
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  Speaker 2: there's enough drama in the world and enough drama in
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  Speaker 2: people's lives that to continue with issues with the family
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. Look, I understand what he's saying, but
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  Speaker 2: it's so, I think, ironic that he's, in a way,
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  Speaker 2: I guess here, suggesting that William and Kate should let
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  Speaker 2: go of the past. that he would encourage everybody to
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  Speaker 2: do so. But it was his inability to let go
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  Speaker 2: of the past by putting it in print, by putting
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  Speaker 2: in his book, by giving interviews that created the situation
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  Speaker 2: now where there seems to be an impasse that feels
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  Speaker 2: impossible to overcome.
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  Speaker 1: He's telling us that they started this, but we didn't
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  Speaker 1: see it because that was private. We saw what he
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  Speaker 1: did and we read what he did publicly. And we're
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  Speaker 1: to a point now, Robes, where I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: if people are taking sides. We just want them to
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  Speaker 1: all be on the same side again. This is Lady
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  Speaker 1: Di's impact. I'm still for her sake. They're like, please, fellas,
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  Speaker 1: work this out.
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  Speaker 2: I do think the British people take sides, though. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's pretty obvious that they're on the side of
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  Speaker 2: Prince William and King Charles.
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  Speaker 1: Are they on the side of everybody but Meghan Markle? Like,
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  Speaker 1: would Prince Harry be welcomed back in with a damn
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  Speaker 1: parade if he left her.
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  Speaker 2: In the U.S.? You know what? Probably. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: can't know for sure, but I would think that would
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  Speaker 2: be possible. And look, The family tensions may go back
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  Speaker 2: from the beginning, but they were exposed, I guess, would
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  Speaker 2: be the best way to put it, when they did
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  Speaker 2: that 2021 interview. Obviously, when they left and moved back
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  Speaker 2: for California and left their roles as working royals, we
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  Speaker 2: all were speculating, but it was confirmed in that interview
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  Speaker 2: with Oprah Winfrey. That started it all. I went back
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  Speaker 2: to kind of remember all the things they said, but Megan,
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  Speaker 2: the big one that everyone remembers, that there were several
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  Speaker 2: conversations there. within the royal family about how dark their
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  Speaker 2: baby might be. And then she described feeling suicidal because
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  Speaker 2: of how lonely she felt within the royal family. And
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  Speaker 2: then she... This was the big one. She denied a
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  Speaker 2: story that she made Princess Kate cry in the run-up
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  Speaker 2: to her wedding to Harry over some flower girl dresses.
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  Speaker 2: She said in that interview that the reverse was true,
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  Speaker 2: that Kate made her cry. So now you... That was tough.
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  Speaker 2: And Harry said in that interview that the family cut
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  Speaker 2: him off financially, that Charles stopped taking his call, that
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  Speaker 2: he felt let down by his own father, that his
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  Speaker 2: brother and his father were trapped within the system of
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  Speaker 2: the royal family. So those are things that are really
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  Speaker 2: hard to take back.
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  Speaker 1: The Oprah interview was a part of promoting the book,
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  Speaker 1: or this was just them, right? No, it was just them.
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  Speaker 2: There was nothing to promote. Oprah gets the big interview
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  Speaker 2: as to why they moved out of the United Kingdom,
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  Speaker 2: why they left their roles as working royals. And this
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  Speaker 2: was their explanation.
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  Speaker 1: That was awful. It was. That sit-down interview was stunning, baby.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're hurt. They feel what they feel. They
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  Speaker 1: have a right to say what they want to say.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened behind the scenes to hurt
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  Speaker 1: you that badly. Look, we've all Robes, if folks have
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  Speaker 1: any ideas, some of the stuff any of us have
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  Speaker 1: said or done with our families and the fights that
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  Speaker 1: ensue and the robes, it would be ugly, nasty, terrible
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  Speaker 1: stuff when you keep it in-house.
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  Speaker 2: And that, look, and it's so interesting because, yes, Harry
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  Speaker 2: was saying that in this new interview. Like, everyone can relate.
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  Speaker 2: That is true. But not everybody goes and writes a memoir.
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  Speaker 2: And in Harry's memoir, the big incendiary thing, this thing
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  Speaker 2: that most people believe Prince William will never get over is,
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  Speaker 2: and I actually went back to look and see specifically
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  Speaker 2: what he wrote in Spare. but he details this physical
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  Speaker 2: fight that he had with his brother. He said that
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  Speaker 2: the fight escalated because William called Meghan Markle difficult, rude,
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  Speaker 2: and abrasive. And then somehow it escalated to the point
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  Speaker 2: where Harry claims William grabbed him by the collar, ripped
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  Speaker 2: his necklace off, and knocked him onto a dog bowl
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  Speaker 2: that cracked. He wrote about that.
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  Speaker 1: Let me go back. Were those the, those were Harry's words? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That he claims William said.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: What were they again?
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  Speaker 2: That he called Meghan Markle difficult, rude, and abrasive.
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  Speaker 1: Man, y'all got some thin skin. I mean, come on, man.
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  Speaker 1: And you got in a fight with your brother. I
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  Speaker 1: assume you got in many over the years. Maybe this
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  Speaker 1: was the worst. But to call out, to blow up
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  Speaker 1: the royal family because of an insult to your wife. I'm,
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  Speaker 1: I am okay. I understand you want to defend your wife.
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  Speaker 1: Beat your brother's ass. Beat his ass. Beat him down.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go write a book. I'm saying, Robes.
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  Speaker 2: About the future king of England.
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  Speaker 1: I am not advocating for violence. I'm saying it in
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  Speaker 1: a brotherly type way. If you're mad at somebody, you
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  Speaker 1: work it out. You fight it out. If you do this,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is. And again, I hope you see the
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  Speaker 1: tone in what I'm saying here, Robes. I'm not advocating.
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  Speaker 1: Go in there.
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  Speaker 2: You keep it in-house.
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  Speaker 1: A physical altercation. But if you're mad the way you
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  Speaker 1: say you are as a husband, I could, if you
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  Speaker 1: told me, Harry smacked the hell out of the future
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  Speaker 1: king of England. What did he do? He called his
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  Speaker 1: wife blank, blank, and blank. Okay. He shouldn't have done that.
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  Speaker 2: Man to man, you understand that.
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  Speaker 1: Shouldn't have done that. But Robes, I don't, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure William doesn't understand. You use that phrase, man to man.
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  Speaker 1: You ran and told the world about this.
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  Speaker 2: It's a betrayal.
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  Speaker 1: And Robes, I don't know what rises to the level
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  Speaker 1: or what should. Maybe that's it. You call my wife silly.
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  Speaker 1: If that, I'm offended enough that I am going to
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  Speaker 1: go blow up this whole thing. But even those words
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  Speaker 1: he's using. Rose, I was waiting on some more. Because
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  Speaker 1: there's some other stuff he could have thrown in there
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  Speaker 1: that I would have thought, wow. But she's difficult. Rose,
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  Speaker 1: you're difficult on most mornings before 445. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: are we doing, fellas? So the fight part of it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so upset that I got into a
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  Speaker 1: fight with my brother that I need to go write
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: But he's saying that William physically attacked him. And so
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  Speaker 2: those are serious charges. I mean, look. I'm sure. I
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  Speaker 2: say serious in the sense that nobody wants someone telling
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  Speaker 2: the world that you threw your brother down on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: The other brother could just say, yeah, we were just
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  Speaker 1: roughhousing like we always do. I mean, just, but hey,
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  Speaker 1: why would you go tell the world? I was at
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  Speaker 1: the house the other day and my brother beat me
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  Speaker 1: up because I didn't like, you ain't gonna believe what he,
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  Speaker 1: it comes off. I just, I'm missing something, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And look, for all of that to be in print,
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  Speaker 2: people can still pick up the book and read it now.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like it goes away. And so then for him,
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  Speaker 2: I believe the first time he officially said was on
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  Speaker 2: the BBC. He had an interview with them in 2025,
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  Speaker 2: so last year. His quote was, Harry's quote was, I
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  Speaker 2: would love reconciliation with my family. There's no point in
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  Speaker 2: continuing to fight anymore. Even that last bit is a little...
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  Speaker 2: that would piss me off more. Like, what do you
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  Speaker 2: mean there's no point in continuing to fight anymore? You're
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  Speaker 2: dismissing all of the actions you took to publicly air
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  Speaker 2: our dirty laundry.
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  Speaker 1: Has he said that publicly? I apologize. I'm sorry for
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  Speaker 1: putting that out.
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  Speaker 2: I never should have done that.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't, right?
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  Speaker 2: He absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that what folks, don't you hate, everybody's experienced that before.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody will come over, pick on you, start a fight,
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  Speaker 1: start hitting you, start doing whatever. Or maybe even it's
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  Speaker 1: a verbal altercation. They start it. And then things get
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  Speaker 1: a little too heated and they go, ah, okay, I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm out. You started the fight, Harry. And now you
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  Speaker 1: can't just say, okay, let's stop fighting now. You started
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  Speaker 1: the fight.
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  Speaker 2: At least publicly. The public fight. He started the public fight.
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  Speaker 2: That is very true. And so look, what we know,
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  Speaker 2: the good news is there is certainly a better relationship
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  Speaker 2: with King Charles. We know that because Harry, Meghan, the
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  Speaker 2: kids all met with the King in July. But the
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  Speaker 2: relationship between Harry and William is described as distant with
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  Speaker 2: no contact.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. On two things there. How bad was the stuff
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  Speaker 1: he said about the king in the book? Was it
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  Speaker 1: that bad? No. Most of it was for... Harry and,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: William and... No, and he writes that both he and
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  Speaker 2: William begged their father not to marry Camilla. There was
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of that, but there was nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't even have to say that.
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  Speaker 2: Right, why? It's to sell books, and that's the problem,
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  Speaker 2: because it was profit. Why do you need to sell
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  Speaker 2: a book?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of confusion as to the motivation.
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  Speaker 2: And look, you know I say this all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Before you speak, before you write, before you make a
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  Speaker 2: decision about what your next action is... ask yourself what
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  Speaker 2: your goal is. What do you want to come out
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  Speaker 2: of this? And I don't know what his goal was
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  Speaker 2: to defend himself, to defend his wife at all costs,
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  Speaker 2: or was it to humiliate his brother or to, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but you, I think you need to ask
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  Speaker 2: yourself because the consequences are real. So you better know
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  Speaker 2: why you're doing it.
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  Speaker 1: It can't, it's gotta be more than just sell books.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be. But if it's more than that,
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  Speaker 1: then that means I'm meant to do harm. I needed
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  Speaker 1: to get this out. Then that doesn't sound right. This
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  Speaker 1: is such a confusing... It's tough.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough. But there were some other very interesting nuggets
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  Speaker 2: that came out of this latest interview with Prince Harry,
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  Speaker 2: including why he says he and Meghan moved back to
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  Speaker 2: the United Kingdom. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ.
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  Speaker 2: Prince Harry is talking for the first time on the
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  Speaker 2: record since moving with Meghan Markle and his two kids
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  Speaker 2: back to the United Kingdom. And one of the questions
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  Speaker 2: that I think we were all excited to hear the
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  Speaker 2: answer to, the interviewer asked Prince Harry, why did y'all
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  Speaker 2: move back to the UK in the first place? And
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting, his first sentence. Opportunities. For
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  Speaker 2: the family. So he kind of stopped. And I just
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  Speaker 2: was wondering if there was any allusion to Megan maybe
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  Speaker 2: getting an acting gig or not. That's just where my
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  Speaker 2: brain went. He didn't go there. He then said being
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  Speaker 2: able to put the kids in a British school, which
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  Speaker 2: has meant a lot to me, I didn't know how
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  Speaker 2: important it was going to be. So he's very excited
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: about having his kids have the experience of being in
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: a British school, of having that environment. He said they've
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: been in school for two weeks now, and they're loving it,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: and it's just giving them a whole different experience.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Did you listen to the interview? I did. How did he,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: as he was talking, did it seem like he caught
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: himself in the opportunities? How did it come out?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Well, he was careful. So whenever he said opportunities for
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the family, and maybe he was just referring to his
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: kids getting the opportunity to be exposed to the British
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: way of life. But it also seemed like maybe he
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: was saying that everybody was going to win. Everybody had
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: a reason why it was a good thing for the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: family to move back. He also said one of the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: reasons why they moved back was to be back closer
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to my family and and to be back on UK
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: soil for longer than a few days or a week
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: here or there. So it's nice to be back. It's
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: been nice to be close to friends and family to
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: have endless playdates. So he is painting a very rosy picture.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And family to have playdates?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Well, look, I know we know that he has been
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: at his uncle's house, Princess Diana's brother. So that might
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: be the family he's referring to.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe some kids over.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: There, maybe. Yes, there's no reports. And they have friends
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: over there, too. We've seen Meghan Markle out with some friends. Yes,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: we've seen. It seems like there was a very deliberate public, oh,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: look at me having lunch on my free time with
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Malala Yousafzai.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That's who she hangs with. That's fine.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: It sounds like it might be a curated public. Oh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: come on. opportunity for us to see her with Malala.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: But no, but there are other, like she's, I think,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: who else was she hanging out with? Was it Ellen DeGeneres? Yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I saw her hanging out with them too. But look,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: they do have, obviously he has friends, but the family
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I think they're referring to are the Spencers. And it's
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: never been noted. The British press are saying that the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: King and Harry have had a phone conversation or two,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: but there's been no confirmation that they've all actually physically
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: been in each other's presence.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: We would probably know about that, right?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like they would have found a way. Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and I would think that Harry's camp would want people
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to know that they were all hanging out.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: He's been back, what, since late August?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Late August. I guess they don't do Thanksgiving there, so
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: we'll have to wait and see what's the next big holiday.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Is it Christmas? To see how that evolves. And look,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: there's already reports that Megan's coming back to California for
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the holidays. What? For, I don't know, to see friends
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and family, but unclear what their plans are going to be.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Where the baby's going to be. Unclear.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Do not know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: They're not going to do Christmas together?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: They haven't said. You know, people are always trying to
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: figure out what their next move is.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Will he be welcome back into that house if she's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not there? Like, if she did go back for Christmas
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: somewhere with the kids in Southern California... would they say,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: come on, Harry, swing by the house?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. No, no, they're pretty buttoned up.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: But look, I think I do believe that most people
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: are rooting for the brothers to find some way together
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: or a path that they can walk down together. But look,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I think That's tough when you have your new sister-in-law
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: tell the world that you made her cry on her
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: wedding day.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Oof.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And then you have a brother saying that the other brother,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you know, physically assaulted him over the way. Those are
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: tough things to get past.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Megan said that Kate made her cry.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. Even though the rumor was that Megan made Kate
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: cry all of her flower girl dresses. Wow.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: It's tough.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You know, look, you're never fighting about what you're fighting about.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It's always something deeper. It's always something greater. But look,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Harry is he said he's excited about the opportunities he's had.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I believe what was his his quote about wanting to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: basically he was happy. He's happier now than he's been
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: in 10 years. because he's getting to do what he loves. Oh,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: this is what he said. I'm exhausted, but the work
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: that I do, that's the stuff that energizes me. Being
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: around good people and trying to make an impact on
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the world, I'm in a much better place than I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: was 10 years ago.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And that's great. That's good to hear. I hope it
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: keeps getting better and keeps getting better for that family.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And Kate, we said it before, Kate is the one
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: who could make all this go away. She has such
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: good favor with the British public. William and Kate are the.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Two most popular people.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And Kate could put her arm around Meghan and change
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the course of this story and change the course of
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: history if she wanted. But given that, you just announced
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to the world that the person y'all love that's the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: future queen is a mean girl that made me cry
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: on my wedding day. Yeah, Kate's not going to like that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: That's tough to overcome.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Even if it's true.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe Meghan's sensitive.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: We don't know what actually happened, but we hope maybe...
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: We'll see. This move to the UK is the first step, perhaps,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: in the right direction.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And so far, so good. It hasn't been a disaster.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I know that letter when he reminded everybody, just to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: be clear, everybody, Harry and Meghan are not with us.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: They are not working royals. Besides that, though, it hasn't
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: been a disaster.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: No, it hasn't. And everyone is hanging on every word
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that any royal says. I just saw, as we were
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: recording this a few moments ago, a publication reporting that
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: King Charles... Sorry, I almost said King Harry.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: That's funny. That's hilarious.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: He's fifth in line to the throne, so never going
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to happen. But King Charles... just said something about his
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: son that was nice. He was talking to some other
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: world leader about how their sons were friends. Anyway, any
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: mention of Harry coming out of the king's mouth will
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: make headlines around the world. So everyone will be watching,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: but we can all be hoping for the best and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: hope that there is a way for them to all
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: find a way forward. And with that, everyone, we always
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: We'll talk soon.