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Bringing Johnny Clegg's music to a new generation · The Flash Drive with Carl Wastie

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  Speaker 1: Week days fweet A seven pm. It's a flash drive
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  Speaker 1: with Carl and we see on KFM ninety four point five.
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  Speaker 2: So I did promise you a chat with one of
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  Speaker 2: my besties. He's come through all the way from his
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  Speaker 2: place is warm place, it's warm home, just to come
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  Speaker 2: and chat to you in Cape Town.
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  Speaker 3: What is up? Jesse Kleig is here? What's up? Brother?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me? And Joeberg is much colder
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  Speaker 4: than Cape Ton. I can tell you now it's not
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  Speaker 4: that warm in my home.
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  Speaker 3: Is it not? OK, it's very cold. Well, there we go.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to war. Was pleasantly surprised when I landed
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  Speaker 3: in Cape Town. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: You chose a great day for you to bring a song. Well,
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  Speaker 2: not has a song, but I think a project that
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  Speaker 2: is part of the phrase to be coined together. When
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  Speaker 2: one of our first chats, when I said, it's the legacy,
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  Speaker 2: and the legacy lives on with something very very important.
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  Speaker 2: But first, how are you, my friend? I'm good man.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I've been very busy, been traveling a lot, and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of multiple robots for some for
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  Speaker 4: a very special project.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm grateful to be here. To to share this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so the project is the Scatterling's Project, and we
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  Speaker 2: need to go because I already had a conversation with
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  Speaker 2: one of the contributors for a Simbonnanga song, which is
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  Speaker 2: Jay something, and he was I've never ever heard Jay
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  Speaker 2: chat about music that way. He said, he was, he
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  Speaker 2: was taken, he was taken aback by. He was like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe I was asked to do this, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe I was part of this. And and
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  Speaker 2: I think someone like Jay, you expect someone has established
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  Speaker 2: like that to never have the feeling of like a
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  Speaker 2: giddy child who's just got a new toy. But that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what happened. And it was so great to chat
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  Speaker 2: him about it. But let's go to the beginning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the inception of the Scatterling's Project. I want to know
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  Speaker 2: when it all happened. When you got around a table
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  Speaker 2: and said let's do this thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was actually me and Msuki, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think after my father passed. You know, it was
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  Speaker 4: something about when someone when you lose someone, you you
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  Speaker 4: have this instant that you want to celebrate them and
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  Speaker 4: you want to you want to resurrect something of their
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  Speaker 4: memory and their their essence. And so the feeling has
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  Speaker 4: been with me for a long time. And me and
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  Speaker 4: Imsuki have been working together for several years now and
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  Speaker 4: she's she's like family to me. And we were literally
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  Speaker 4: having coffee one day and we thought, how can.
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  Speaker 3: We bring this music back?
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  Speaker 4: And and the idea was, let's go and talk to
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  Speaker 4: all our friends, the people that we respect in the industry,
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  Speaker 4: all top level artists in different genres, and let's give
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  Speaker 4: them the opportunity to choose a song of my father's
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  Speaker 4: from his catalog, any song that they want, and the
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  Speaker 4: only criteria is that it has to be a song
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  Speaker 4: that they truly love and that has influenced their art
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  Speaker 4: and their their their truth as an artist.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. So we just started doing that.
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  Speaker 4: We just like went to Zekespontwini, we went to Sonel,
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  Speaker 4: we went to Beetenberg, Semi Sjava, Jabuli La Majola, you
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  Speaker 4: know people that we we loved and that we knew
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  Speaker 4: loved my father. And we just said, choose a song
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  Speaker 4: and we'll give you the original stems. You can have
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  Speaker 4: at it, make it something of your own.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the concept was really to have a
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  Speaker 4: celebration of music that was so important to South Africa
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  Speaker 4: a very particular time in history and talks about tells
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  Speaker 4: the story of South Africa means something to us generationally.
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  Speaker 4: And to have artists from today who have created their
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  Speaker 4: own cultural space and you are creating in this moment
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  Speaker 4: in South Africa to try and work out what those
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  Speaker 4: songs mean today for current South Africans. We all know
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  Speaker 4: those songs and they all had a resonance in society
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  Speaker 4: at that moment. But we're in a new moment in
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  Speaker 4: South Africa and there's some amazing artists and creatives and
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  Speaker 4: what does this music mean right now? How do we
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  Speaker 4: bring it to a new generation, let it have a
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  Speaker 4: new resonance with people. So that was the inspiration, man,
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  Speaker 4: and it's been such an incredible journey to just firstly
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  Speaker 4: feel the reverence that the artists have for this music
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  Speaker 4: and all the story that they brought of how this
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  Speaker 4: music has reached their lives. And then to also just hear,
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  Speaker 4: like to hear like Zake's doing, like an afrotech version
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  Speaker 4: of Ossierza the Crossing, you know, to hear all these
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  Speaker 4: new versions of the songs, to hear these new life
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  Speaker 4: being breathed into this music has just been such an
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  Speaker 4: amazing adventure man, And shout out to the artists. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Jay did such a beautiful job with U Simpnoga right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I loved about the chat I had
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  Speaker 2: with Jay about it is that he looked at the
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  Speaker 2: song and its meaning and where it was dropped, and
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  Speaker 2: then he said that the other there are certain levels
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  Speaker 2: of oppression that we are still under right now, and
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  Speaker 2: it's still very real. It doesn't mean that the times
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  Speaker 2: are different, that those narratives in those songs are not
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  Speaker 2: applicable to some of these things that we are dealing
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  Speaker 2: with right now.
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  Speaker 3: And what I loved is.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that the impetus behind it, it was just
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  Speaker 2: it was so beautiful, honestly to hear every artist over here,
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  Speaker 2: like like Jay saying, that's how I made it my
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  Speaker 2: own I looked at my own life and I said,
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  Speaker 2: what would this if I was back then?
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  Speaker 3: What would it mean to me? And now what does
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  Speaker 3: it mean to me?
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  Speaker 2: And now let's start, yeah, you know, getting melody and going,
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  Speaker 2: and it was just, oh, it is so beautiful honestly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, I think when
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  Speaker 4: you when you realize like, what a creative explosion we're
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  Speaker 4: in at the moment with South African music, Like there's
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  Speaker 4: new genres being invented that only exists in this country,
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  Speaker 4: you know, nowhere else in the world. I think that
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  Speaker 4: my dad would have been so proud that his music
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  Speaker 4: has is still so relevant to these artists and that
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  Speaker 4: they've had a chance to like bring their own artistry
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  Speaker 4: to songs that have made them artists, you know, some
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  Speaker 4: of these artists, you know. I spoke to Trezor, who
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  Speaker 4: did Cool Crazy Beautiful World on this album, and he
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  Speaker 4: told me that he used to play cool Crazy when
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  Speaker 4: he was a teenager in the Congo in his first band,
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  Speaker 4: Like he's he's already He was like, bro, I.
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  Speaker 3: Can do this song. I've been playing it my whole life,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just so beautiful to hear those stories because
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  Speaker 4: they say, yeah, they've grown up with this music, and I,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I've obviously grown up with it. I'm so
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  Speaker 4: close to it, so much a part of my life.
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  Speaker 4: But to just have this reminder of his impact and
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  Speaker 4: to see how it's filtered into a new generation of
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  Speaker 4: artists and the excitement of taking these songs forward has
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  Speaker 4: just been man, what a blessing.
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  Speaker 2: I know for a fact that you're you're yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: can only imagine what your dad must have like you
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  Speaker 2: would have felt just listened to this project, man, because
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  Speaker 2: it's just that when you make music, you want it
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  Speaker 2: to mean something. And now for you to you and
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  Speaker 2: Masaka to get together and continue the meaning. Yeah, reframe
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  Speaker 2: it for people who can understand it in our context.
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  Speaker 2: Now that isn't that art? Isn't that what's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: art supposed to be that way?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's also like how timeless music can be
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  Speaker 4: and how it can connect us, you know, even in
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  Speaker 4: a new generation. You know, I think there's going to
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  Speaker 4: be people who come to this album who haven't heard
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  Speaker 4: my dad's music and they're going to discover this music
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  Speaker 4: for the first time, and then they're going to go back.
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  Speaker 4: That's so exciting to me because there's there's there's a
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  Speaker 4: there's a generation that grew up with this music. But
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  Speaker 4: I think there's because we've got all these artists that
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  Speaker 4: are appealing to a younger audience, There's going to be
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  Speaker 4: people that discover my dad through this album. And that's
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  Speaker 4: so exciting as well, Like just the a new like
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  Speaker 4: group of people finding out that there was this artist
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  Speaker 4: and he had some pretty good songs.
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  Speaker 2: Every one of them. I thought I'd do something, something crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And the crazy year is that I've got clips of
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  Speaker 2: every track.
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  Speaker 4: Damn, I know, this is this is this is the
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  Speaker 4: first time anyone's ever hearing this.
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  Speaker 2: I know. So I wanted to do this because I
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  Speaker 2: think enough teasing. Only snippets, That's all I want to do,
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  Speaker 2: only snippets because in two weeks we get the album. Right,
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  Speaker 2: it's twenty four July twenty four album drops twenty four July.
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  Speaker 2: Plus there's a festival that be doing around the album,
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  Speaker 2: the Scappings, which is going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be that is coming up. Well.
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  Speaker 4: Next week we are debuting in London Trafalgar Square for
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  Speaker 4: the Mandela Day celebrations. Yes, that's going to be a
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  Speaker 4: huge show, like ten thousand people in London and a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the artists from the album are coming to
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  Speaker 4: sing and perform and do their song from the album.
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  Speaker 4: And then we bring it home to joe Berg on
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  Speaker 4: the first of August, hoping we're going to do cape
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  Speaker 4: Ton as well, but we will, and we will.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be here to announce it if that.
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  Speaker 2: If that happens, please, please, please please, Okay tell you what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm only going to do snippets, Okay, all right, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to track through this. Here's snippet number one, Monanga.
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  Speaker 2: This is Chase something treatment of us in Monanga.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you.
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  Speaker 2: Heard this for the first time, what was your feelings?
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  Speaker 4: I was just like, you know, everyone was terrified to
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  Speaker 4: do a simple nanga.
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  Speaker 3: None of the artists wanted it.
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  Speaker 4: And when we spoke to Jay, he was like, bro,
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  Speaker 4: please tell me no one's taken a simpang. And I
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  Speaker 4: was like, dude, I'm so happy you're taking this because
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  Speaker 4: everyone is terrified of the song. It's such a beautiful
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  Speaker 4: song and he did such an amazing job with it,
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  Speaker 4: and to hear his the emotional journey that he went
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  Speaker 4: on recording it was just so beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: And they've just dropped music video. It's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Shore Beatenberg doing Scattlings of Africa. I actually have not
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  Speaker 2: heard this one, so and we are scrattlings of.
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  Speaker 5: Africa both une, We're a the Tupela Manka beneath the
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  Speaker 5: cap of sky.
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  Speaker 3: And we are scatterling Zuba. That's so dope.
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  Speaker 2: What and it's so Beatenberg. But then also just so
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  Speaker 2: scattlings all at the same time. What a beautiful, beautiful
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  Speaker 2: tractor is Sami Sami and Kansi. Oh my word. Now
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  Speaker 2: this was the one I was most excited about because
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  Speaker 2: I thought, who would take on this?
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  Speaker 4: This is me Yessaki, Jabble Lili Majela and Sipunu from Juluka.
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  Speaker 3: Yo everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I when I saw san Al and
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  Speaker 2: this one.
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  Speaker 4: This is an old Jeluca song, very old Jelucas song,
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  Speaker 4: very obscure song, so beautiful, and Sonel just did an
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  Speaker 4: complete reimagining of this.
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  Speaker 3: It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: It's me tato Hatzi, Msaki and son now shure.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the goosebumps are going because third World child, I'm Saki.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that voice. That's how when Entropy came out, I
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  Speaker 2: was I was like, Yore, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Jesse?
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  Speaker 2: Why would you drop this? This is that was so good?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, man another one, then Muzi doing Wally Mama.
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  Speaker 4: It's been so interesting to see what songs some of
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  Speaker 4: the artists have chosen, right, these are some of these
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  Speaker 4: are really obscure Julucas songs, and these are the songs
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  Speaker 4: that they yeah listen to their whole life.
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  Speaker 3: But I like that little trap step in there. It's
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  Speaker 3: like that dark broast. Then our good friends worth what's the.
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  Speaker 4: Solani recorded this with a township choir and they recorded
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  Speaker 4: this in a shack. It just in the townships, in
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  Speaker 4: a shack in the townships. I mean, the footage from
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  Speaker 4: this recording is just so beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: It's an a cappella version. It just gets me. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Tucks and.
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  Speaker 2: Save my Heart Away. That trays awesome, And we love
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  Speaker 2: Tres's story, you know the way the man who was
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  Speaker 2: on the come up. Don't forget he was a car god.
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  Speaker 2: I know it took on the world and even just
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  Speaker 2: and even have he has creds and Drake's album and
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  Speaker 2: all over the world.
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  Speaker 4: This man is so cool and was so so excited
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  Speaker 4: to do this. Was one of the first artists that
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  Speaker 4: jumped in and just shout out, tis a man with
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  Speaker 4: my brother and someone I respect so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yoh, this is so good. Plus must Candy. We had
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  Speaker 3: to have a Musk Candy artist on the album.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Friday, good Day.
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  Speaker 3: For it, what's that Friday?
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  Speaker 2: And then the one that was dropped today. I'm so
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  Speaker 2: tending to stop before the drops, so you can actually
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  Speaker 2: get that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well not give it to you. You started us too late.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Zakes, weights on the Drops. I love it.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to be but it's it's it's up today,
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  Speaker 4: so check it out, Jakes bon Between you're doing the Crossing,
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, what.
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  Speaker 2: A beautiful song. Honestly, a beautiful take on it as well. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the one song I want to play in its entirety
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  Speaker 2: is a track that I think is very special. It
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  Speaker 2: is special to every South African, the Great Heart Song.
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  Speaker 2: And before we play this, because this project is it's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: As you heard all of those contributors on the Scattling's project.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to be a festivals while London's going to
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  Speaker 2: see it.
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  Speaker 3: Jesse.
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  Speaker 2: I was privileged enough as a radio broadcaster to have
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  Speaker 2: incredible artists and people in my studio. Okay. One of
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  Speaker 2: the best interviews I've ever done in my life was
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  Speaker 2: with your dad, m Thank you man, and he was
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  Speaker 2: so giving. He is a man who speaks like we
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  Speaker 2: are around a fire. I forgot I was doing an interview.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like the fire was going and he was
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  Speaker 2: telling me stories about his life. And one of the
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  Speaker 2: most beautiful things is that he was so generous with
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  Speaker 2: what he was giving to me. It's like, just every
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  Speaker 2: single question I asked him, he gave me four answers,
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  Speaker 2: which which shows how generous you know, he was in
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  Speaker 2: his storytelling and still is with his music today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I wanted to play you a clip that I
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  Speaker 2: found because I went to go scratch for this and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, when I found it, I was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my word.
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  Speaker 3: I asked him about, you know, parts.
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  Speaker 2: Of his career m and I asked him about you,
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  Speaker 2: and for the longest time he was he was always
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  Speaker 2: he was so respectful and he's always been respectful of
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  Speaker 2: fact that, like you always wanted to carve your own past.
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  Speaker 2: That's you, you know, It's it's important. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: have a son, and I'm sure you don't always want
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  Speaker 2: to live in that sort of Oh you are Carl
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  Speaker 2: Waste's son. You know you are Johnny Clig's son. You
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  Speaker 2: want to call of your path and I get that,
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  Speaker 2: and I felt that in the most real way when
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  Speaker 2: he chatted to me. But he gave me such insight
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  Speaker 2: into you and to your come up in music, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to play you this and forgive me. I
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  Speaker 2: hope I don't cry listening to this, But thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I needed to ask him this and he was so generous.
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  Speaker 2: So please take a listen to This is my chat
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  Speaker 2: with your dad, and I found out so much more
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  Speaker 2: about you.
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  Speaker 3: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 6: Jesse was fifteen when he started learning guitar, and but
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  Speaker 6: he was very, very secretive.
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  Speaker 3: I never knew he kept it away from me.
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  Speaker 6: When he was about sixteen going on seventeen, he said, Dad,
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  Speaker 6: I'd like to go full voice lessons and I said no, fine.
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  Speaker 6: I never heard him sing, I never heard him pay,
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  Speaker 6: I never heard hissing. It was like a silent thing
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  Speaker 6: going on parallel. We lived in the same place. I
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  Speaker 6: think was what he wanted is he wanted to present
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  Speaker 6: something that was finished and accomplished. When he was eighteen,
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  Speaker 6: he came to me and he said, I've got three songs.
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  Speaker 6: I would like a demo. So I said fine, and
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  Speaker 6: I phoned up Ernie, our demo guy, and I said, Vernie,
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  Speaker 6: the Jesse's got some songs. Can you just help him
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  Speaker 6: out here. The next day he phoned me up and
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  Speaker 6: he said, John, are you a co writer in these songs?
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  Speaker 3: And I said no.
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  Speaker 6: He said, these are serious songs.
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  Speaker 3: Dude. He said, you're joking.
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  Speaker 1: He said he are.
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  Speaker 6: I said, wow, Okay. So they did the demos and
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  Speaker 6: he played them to me and he was nervous and
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  Speaker 6: I fell out my chair. I couldn't believe it that
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  Speaker 6: in my own home this had unfolded over the past
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  Speaker 6: three years.
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  Speaker 4: You know, do you remember those songs those three hours?
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  Speaker 4: It was my first album, man, I was writing my
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  Speaker 4: first album had that young Oh it was Heartbreak Street
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  Speaker 4: and Today and you know those songs from my first
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  Speaker 4: old I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was terrified to play those songs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know what, we we had to continue
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  Speaker 2: because I wanted to know about sort of the highlights
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  Speaker 2: of of Johnny's career, you know, and and what really
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  Speaker 2: stood out for him is something that he believes as
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: part of his clegacy. And then we continued to have
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: this conversation and I want you to listen to this.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: So we went into the studio last year in March.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: We started, we finished in August. In the middle of it,
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: he came to me and he said, Dad, I wrote
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: a song for you, and I'd love for you to
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: sing it with me. And it was a really amazing moment.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: And well, you know when you hear the lyrics, you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: you'll you'll it was actually like a song for us.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: We'd been through this whole health issue, you know, for
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: two years, and and it was it was a very
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: very pointed and poignant set of lyrics, and I added
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: in like four lines of my own and then we
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: sang it and it just worked out. It's just an
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: amazing father and son duets. It's sister for me. It's
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: just a one of the crowning moments. And during on
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: these tours, you know, I tell the story. You know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: he's never performed with me live. We've never been on
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: stage together, you know. And I said that when I
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: hang up my boots, my son will come and sing
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: with me. And so we performed that song and then
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: he sang A great Heart, and I sang the chorus,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: and then he sang the verse, and so we it
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: was just a it's just a's a it's a it's
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: a it's a high it's a high point in the show.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: It's a wonderful part of my life story which I
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: lived out in performance on stage.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's you know, what what more
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: can you ask for?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Sorry?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Man? So I just wanted to share that with you. Sure, sorry,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I thank you, man.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: What did I do to us? Some live radio?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I just wanted to share it
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: with you because in that moment, there was just like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: that's that's what a great heart sounds like.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's you know, and it's it's beating in your chest. Jesse.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that man. You know, he was We
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: did that tour together and he was not well. Man,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: he was you know, he just finished chemo, and I
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: was We were traveling the world, we did fifty seven
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: shows together, and and I was just trying to look
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: after him. You know, I really just wanted to look
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: after him and make sure he was okay. But we
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: got to play on stage together every night, and every
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: single night of that tour around the world was his
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: last show in that place, you know.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: So it was like it was.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: This epic combination of celebration and also sadness and a
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: goodbye but every night, you know, and it was so
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: beautiful and I could see it gave him life and
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: he got to see something of what his legacy was
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: to people, and he got to say goodbye, and you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: he turned right until the end man right until the end,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: like he did not want to go down without a fight,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: you know. And I sang great Heart with him on
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: this tour. And you know, when I sing this song,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: I mean the song that he was talking about. Our
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: duet is I've Been Looking. But great Heart is a
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: song that we sang at the end of the show
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: every night, and it was a song that we ended on.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: And I just see him when I sing this song,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: when I sang it in studio, I see his smile,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I see him on stage next to me, I see
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: him playing it, I feel his energy, and I'm just
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I'm so grateful we got to have that memory together,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: you know, because it's you know, when he was diagnosed,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: they told us he had six months and he lived
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: for five years and we got to do all these
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: beautiful things together.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: So I'm grateful we had that time.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Man. Love and music, Yeah, bro, love and music. Man, Sure,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: that is the juice of life, right there is love
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: and its music. And the Scrattling's project is is such
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: a great I'm not going to caord it a tribute,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: but it's a way of of not only legacy continuing,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: but it's about reliving memories and reliving life in the
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: most beautiful way, you know, so, and.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: It's beautiful that music gets to carry us, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: through these times, like these songs are so ingrained in
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: me and there's and they carry our memories. You know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: we get to we get to relive those moments together
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: and you know I feel his presence.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I feel it too, because when I had that interview
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: with him, you know, I did feel like there was
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: something of a I feel like he wanted to leave
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: me with a good record of things, which is why
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I got so many more answers. And I'm going to
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: send you the full interview.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Please. Sounds like it was a proper deep dive, was
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a what's a deep?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And as I said, it's it's one of the highlights
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of my career, honestly as a broadcaster. Thanks to your dad,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Johnny Clegg. While I hug you, can I play the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: please plague. Let's just play a song. We're gonna have
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: some water and some tis catch the project two weeks time,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: The Scattling's Project plus festivals all over the world. This
• 22:22
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• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Three to seven pm.
• 22:28
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• 22:32
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