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#2511 - Terry Bradshaw · The Joe Rogan Experience

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  Speaker 1: Past, check it out experience, Train by Day Joe Rogan
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  Speaker 1: podcast by Night all day.
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  Speaker 2: Pull up on the microphone up there catching Now rainbow
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  Speaker 2: trout killed him. I've been our fourth year fly fish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, but you're not fly fishing. You come
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  Speaker 2: back in July for fly fishing. This is fly fishing.
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  Speaker 2: But you've got to fly bobber. It's a fly and
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  Speaker 2: then you got that tiny, tiny bug. I mean you
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  Speaker 2: can't even see it, and that's what you catch them all.
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  Speaker 2: So you fly.
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  Speaker 3: You're using a fly rod. You have a bobber and
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  Speaker 3: a little well, the bobber.
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  Speaker 2: The bobber is a basically a big moth or something
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  Speaker 2: holds it up bobber cork.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just a different kind of fly fishing.
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  Speaker 2: What you're doing because you're not you're in a boat,
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  Speaker 2: you know, fast at waters moving right and you just
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  Speaker 2: go down through there and they move it to the
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  Speaker 2: jets and jeties and stuff, and so.
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  Speaker 3: You find like the pools where they're waving and you.
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  Speaker 2: Just find that goes to bloom man oh brown trout. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was a good time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Trout fishing is very fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 3: Fly fishing is a completely different thing. It's very very skillful.
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  Speaker 2: I like fly fishing too. We did that last year
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  Speaker 2: in July and didn't have near the I didn't. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: mean we didn't catch hardly anything, be honest with you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe five or six a day.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot for fly fishing.
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  Speaker 2: We caught almost one hundred and ten hours.
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  Speaker 3: Really, yeah, a hundred trout.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Don't say where you were. People are all going to
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  Speaker 3: swarm that place.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't bring my fun I'd show you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was crazy. Wow, I tell you something funny.
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  Speaker 3: I carry I carry, yeah, what we're filming.
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  Speaker 2: I carry a baby Jesus with me. Let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you what happened.
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  Speaker 3: You carry a baby Jesus, baby Jesus from the manger.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Jesus Jesus. We call it baby Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Oh so it is Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Never exactly. So we're not catching anything. So reach in
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  Speaker 2: my pocket. I don't know why, looking for my lie.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I was doing. And I had
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  Speaker 2: this baby Jesus. I said, Oh, my son in law
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  Speaker 2: is in the back. I said, I got baby Jesus
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  Speaker 2: with me, and I sent him on the on the
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  Speaker 2: igoro on the box facing me. You ready, Joe one
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  Speaker 2: two three, four, five six six, giant rainbow in a row.
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  Speaker 2: So my son and laws in the back, and he's
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  Speaker 2: going turn baby ges just towards me. I turned it around.
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  Speaker 2: I took Baby Jesus toward him. One two three, four
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  Speaker 2: five six. I went down this. We caught twelve twelve
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  Speaker 2: rainbow anywhere from fifteen to twenty inches. That's big. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's pig.
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  Speaker 3: That's good rainbow.
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  Speaker 2: So the so the the guide, I mean, he's you
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  Speaker 2: got a little tripped out he he he said, he said, hey, man, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of you're kind of messing with me here.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of that's kind of got me a little
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  Speaker 2: screwed up here. I started laughing. I said, man, you
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  Speaker 2: get the power of Jesus in here. So we kept
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  Speaker 2: it all before I left. I gave it to him.
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  Speaker 2: So he said, I'm gonna use this every day. So
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  Speaker 2: that's it was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's something you should use every day.
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  Speaker 3: I think that that should be like for special trips.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to ask Jesus every day to help
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  Speaker 3: you catch fish.
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  Speaker 2: I don't go fishing every day. But yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't need. I wouldn't normally need help.
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  Speaker 2: But trut fishing, yeah I need. I'm bass fishing, and
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  Speaker 2: yeah I'm I'm pretty good on my own. But if
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  Speaker 2: things get desperate, I'm not. I mean, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to push it. You know what I'm saying, I want
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  Speaker 2: to push it. Oh, by the way, Jeff died to me. Hello,
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know Jeff. Yeah, I know. I did a
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  Speaker 2: two years of better late than never with him.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love Jeff. Good dude, Yeah, solid dude.
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  Speaker 3: Man's man. What's with all the whiskey?
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  Speaker 2: Did you bring that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I was wondering.
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  Speaker 2: You don't drink, I'll drink. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I quit and then I came back. Yeah, I quit
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  Speaker 3: for eight months. Not not really like I didn't have
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  Speaker 3: a problem. I just health reasons. I decided it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: a good thing for you. Smart you have your own
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  Speaker 3: Terry Breudshaw whiskey.
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  Speaker 2: We've had it. Come on, son, we've got to have
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  Speaker 2: a glass of that. Seven years. Do you drink? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I drink whiskey. Yeah, I drink this. Let's have it.
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  Speaker 2: This is our twelve year that just won all the
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  Speaker 2: Golden Awards and spirits and oh nice, yeah, all of them.
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  Speaker 2: So aged twelve years, twelve years thirteen. Now.
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  Speaker 3: I was talking with Buffalo Trace about that, and they're like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're that's what you drink. Well, once you
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  Speaker 2: drink this, you'll stop drinking that unless unless they're a sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: Tore a sponsor. Okay, there you go. And they're nice guys.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and I respect them in that country. That company's
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  Speaker 3: been around longer than the country.
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  Speaker 2: Long longer than America. Long time. They started in seventeen
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  Speaker 2: seventy three. I mean when you go back to steid
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  Speaker 2: to whiskey, Yeah, I got Well, they claimed that Elijah
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  Speaker 2: Craig was the father of bourbon whiskey, and it's they
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  Speaker 2: do research and then they don't have it back that
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  Speaker 2: far where they can I can actually sit because Elijah
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  Speaker 2: Craig was a preacher.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really, so that freeacher who made whiskey. Yeah wow.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, that's that's award winning twelve. This is uh,
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  Speaker 2: this is our original, this is our two year. This
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  Speaker 2: is the original brand right there. We still have that.
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  Speaker 3: What is the original it's two year aged two two.
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  Speaker 2: Then with our with our yeast, we were able to
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  Speaker 2: make it taste like four to six. Okay, and so
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  Speaker 2: now and then we don't do that anymore. And then
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  Speaker 2: this is the This is this is the good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Right here, this six year six year. Oh yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: you got twelve two and six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually twelve four. Can you really tell the difference? Yeah? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I'm going to tell you right now. This is
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five proof.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa, Okay, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: This this is one oh eight one o three point eight.
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  Speaker 2: This is amazing. This is this, This is a.
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  Speaker 3: Why does the older stuff have more alcohols it because
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  Speaker 3: of the process, well of agent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's also this is a bourbon that it's
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  Speaker 2: a single barrel bourbon. And when we brought it out,
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  Speaker 2: you leave it in there, and this is what it
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  Speaker 2: turned out to. Now we could dilute it by simply
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  Speaker 2: putting water in it and dilute it down to this
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  Speaker 2: is one O three point eight and it's fifty one
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  Speaker 2: point nine proof or proof alcohol. This this bust it out, Therry.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go if we busted. How long are we planning
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  Speaker 2: on talk today? For a couple of hours? We may
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  Speaker 2: not be able to make a couple hours. We do
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  Speaker 2: our best, you can. Who can open this? I don't
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  Speaker 2: have a knife here, Jamie. Oh yeah, so we started
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  Speaker 2: this man, A lot of you know what I noticed
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  Speaker 2: coming over here today. A lot of tattoos in here, Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of tattoos.
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  Speaker 3: You mean the building Jamie's tattoo free. Yeah, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of He's been thinking about getting my face tattooed on
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  Speaker 3: his back?
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  Speaker 2: You still doing it? Is that like a bull's eye?
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  Speaker 2: Stand up? Good? We made a deal.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do his face, he'll do my Oh my god, anyway,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll have like young JB, like gothic.
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  Speaker 2: You know. The thing about the thing about Bourbon, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how to explain it. I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: I fell in love with Bourbon. I find it to be.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, it's the only thing that's it's only
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  Speaker 2: in America. Bourbon is only Bourbon if it's in America, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's only Bourbon if it's if it's
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  Speaker 2: made in Kentucky. A lot of Kentucky people.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the exact same way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you ready, yes, sir, Okay, let's go time
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  Speaker 2: to party. I'm just going this might this might be
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  Speaker 2: the best show you ever have.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you will be after you drink that. Let it
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  Speaker 2: says good. Let it sit, It's most good. Let it sit.
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  Speaker 2: This is the twelve year old stuff. And what is
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  Speaker 2: it called? That's the name. Here's the thing about the
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  Speaker 2: twelve year old we only have and look at that,
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  Speaker 2: we only have fifteen cases left. Fifteen cases. I think
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  Speaker 2: they told me so this is a limited edition and
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  Speaker 2: then we have to come out with some new stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But this is actually thirteen years old now.
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  Speaker 3: So you obviously started this project right time ago, right
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  Speaker 3: if you've been aging it for twelve years.
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  Speaker 2: What I did? Cheers sir, Thank you for Joe, Thanks
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  Speaker 2: for having me my pleasure.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: What happened? I don't I don't know why. I went
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  Speaker 2: to my poo, Hey, wow, you gotta let us sit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got a kick.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna try this and then we'll try this and
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  Speaker 2: you'll definitely see the difference. But I was going to
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  Speaker 2: my I went to my dad, who saw DRIV today.
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  Speaker 2: My father's father was an alcoholic, and I went to
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  Speaker 2: my dad prior to him passing, and I said, hey, Dad,
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  Speaker 2: what would you think if I got into the spirit's business.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, you know what I think. And I went, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just asking you, and he says, absolutely not. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, okay, so I shut it down. My dad died.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's twelve years ago. He died. My mother
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  Speaker 2: died two years ago. So anyway, so after his passing
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  Speaker 2: two or three years, four years, I'm sitting and I
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  Speaker 2: was sitting around. I was trying to I remember William Cohen,
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  Speaker 2: Secretary of State, William Cohen. He says, what do you
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  Speaker 2: do to make a living? I said, well, I work
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  Speaker 2: on Fox. I'm a broadcaster. And he says, is that it?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, well, I'm a horse and cattle breeder.
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  Speaker 2: I raise a registered cattle and I in the breeding business,
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  Speaker 2: training business of court of horses. He said okay. He says,
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  Speaker 2: is there anything else? I said, well, I get public
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  Speaker 2: I speak for corporations. So he was trying to find
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  Speaker 2: out and he took a liking to him, and he says,
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  Speaker 2: basically what he was telling me, you should brand herself
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  Speaker 2: and not have to travel so much. Yeah, because I
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  Speaker 2: traveled two hundred and fifty days last year. Travel.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot, but my wife travels with me, so
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  Speaker 2: that's good.
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  Speaker 3: That helps.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want to do with baby Jesus, Let's.
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  Speaker 3: Sit him right, set them right there.
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  Speaker 2: I got him facing you. We'll see what happens and anyway,
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  Speaker 2: and so he said, basically, you have to brain yourself
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  Speaker 2: get into something that you can and I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know anything. I know football. I can
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  Speaker 2: talk football. I know how to make people laugh, I
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  Speaker 2: know how to I know how to give speeches to
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  Speaker 2: major corporations and build a build a program in the speeches.
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  Speaker 2: I know quarter horses, I know how to select horses,
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  Speaker 2: show horses, I know how to train them. I don't
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  Speaker 2: do that, but I have a trainer for all that now,
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  Speaker 2: and I have people for the breeding part of it.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, in cattle, I I know, I know
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  Speaker 2: the bloodlines and things of that nature, but I got
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  Speaker 2: people doing that. So I just got this. I never
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  Speaker 2: forgot that. You know. That's William call On, one of
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  Speaker 2: these pretty smart dude. And so we were I'm home.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was kind of a rainy day, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there in my little brain's going, I'm going,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what do you want to do. What do
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  Speaker 2: you have? For some reason, I was going, what do
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  Speaker 2: you want to do? Because I remember one time. I
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  Speaker 2: remember one time I got real uncomfortable because I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a normal job. So I ran into this guy
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  Speaker 2: that owned this cosmetic company and I said, do you
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  Speaker 2: have a job. Could you hire me to teach me
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  Speaker 2: the cosmetic industry? And he said yeah, yeah. He gave
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  Speaker 2: me five thousand dollars a month. So I had to
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  Speaker 2: go to work and put a tie on and a
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  Speaker 2: coat because I wanted to be like everybody. Everybody goes
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  Speaker 2: to work, but me, I'm playing golf in between speeches,
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  Speaker 2: which may be week two weeks apart. So I got
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  Speaker 2: two weeks of golf, and I got, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I just got.
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  Speaker 3: When was this thing?
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  Speaker 2: This was thirty years ago? Thirty years ago?
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  Speaker 3: You decided to get into the cosmetics business.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just for just.
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  Speaker 3: To do something I wanted to be.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to have a job, really, I know, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to have a job. I wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: like I wanted I think I wanted to see. I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to see how America works. People get up and
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  Speaker 2: kiss their kids goodbye, and their wives or husbands and
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  Speaker 2: and they go off to work, and I, for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: I felt guilty. I didn't have a job. I know, stupid,
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  Speaker 2: I know it's interesting. So I got a job. Now
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing, Joe. My office was right on the road,
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  Speaker 2: across the street from the golf course I was a
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  Speaker 2: member of. And I was watching my buddies come up
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  Speaker 2: the fairway and I'd stand at the window and I'd
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  Speaker 2: look at them, and I go that I should be
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  Speaker 2: playing golf with those guys right now. So hold the
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  Speaker 2: last two months, I couldn't stand it. I tell you,
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't stand it. Mostly can't. But I can't explain
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  Speaker 2: it other than I just felt guilty that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: people say, well, athletes, they got you know, it's true.
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  Speaker 2: They got all this money and they got this, and
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  Speaker 2: they got that. And you smoke the gars to her,
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  Speaker 2: I do want one? Yeah, I do. I want I
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  Speaker 2: want a really good one. You got them? Oh yeah, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I I love Hey, that's my wife. I've got the
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  Speaker 2: only I'm probably married to the only wife who lets
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  Speaker 2: me smoke in the house. Really you married?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I can't smoke in the house.
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  Speaker 2: Oh see there.
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  Speaker 3: Everything you see in this place is because I can't
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  Speaker 3: do anything at home. All the elkheads and all the
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  Speaker 3: crazy artwork and Jimmy Hendrix and all that Josey. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like I let her decorate the house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. It's beautiful. It's very excepted.
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  Speaker 3: If my house would look like a sixteen year old
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  Speaker 3: boy won the lottery, that's.
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  Speaker 2: What I can understand that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why I simulators, and I don't know
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  Speaker 4: why why my wife lets me smoke. But if she
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  Speaker 4: said out, yeah, that's all you're saying, yours don't doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: I love me too, But we make concessions.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean. But I have a
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  Speaker 2: pool room.
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  Speaker 3: Like where I play pool in the house.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's outside out in the.
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  Speaker 3: Barn, and I go out there and I smoke. I
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  Speaker 3: have a cigar.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, that's good. You smoke Cuban cigars.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I can get them.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: them that aren't even really Cuban. They're lying to you.
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  Speaker 2: M M, there you go, sir. I think All the
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  Speaker 2: Count is going to be the greatest interview I've ever
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  Speaker 2: been a part of.
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  Speaker 3: A good time.
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  Speaker 2: Not only are we going to drink award winning bourbon
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  Speaker 2: Bradshaw Bourbon by the way, and we're smoking this is
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  Speaker 2: amazing cigar.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Foundation Cigars. Wow, what is this Dominican?
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  Speaker 2: I believe? No? N yeah is it our fathers or
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  Speaker 2: there are fathers.
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  Speaker 3: The name of the company. Yeah, no, it's a foundation
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  Speaker 3: Foundation Cigars.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta get this.
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  Speaker 3: This is called the Tabernacle.
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  Speaker 2: This is his Foundation Cigars. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Good right, oh shit right yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If I had your kind of money, I could afford these.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I'm sending you a box. Give them to me
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  Speaker 3: for free.
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  Speaker 2: Si. Yeah, he's in front of the show. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: get like a monthly.
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  Speaker 3: Bet he will, I bet he will just make a
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  Speaker 3: little Instagram post for something. Any way, be happy to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got this friend. He built our house. Huge
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  Speaker 2: elk hunter, which I know you are. And so he
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  Speaker 2: goes out and he shoots this massive elk. I mean
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  Speaker 2: this monster at the bottom of his horn is like
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  Speaker 2: this big round, just massive seven by seven in Idaho,
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  Speaker 2: New Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: New Mexico's extraordinary big elk in New Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shot him with a bow. He's a bow hunter
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  Speaker 2: like you. And so he brings it home. Now he's
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  Speaker 2: old got his fireplace, all right, he's got two over here,
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  Speaker 3: I only have one in my house. It's the first
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: one I ever killed.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a that's pretty impressive. You shoot an
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: olk or anything both with the bow and arrow, you're close.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of work. Yeah, not easy.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: It's not easy, but I I look forward to it
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: every year like nothing else.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Do you go out for two weeks a week.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: A week a week week at a time, Yeah, you
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: go to Mexico. I haven't been in New Mexico, but
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I want to. New Mexico is like the Heela Mountains
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: out there that's supposed to be like one of the
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: best elk that Arizona spots of Utah just for volume sports.
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  Speaker 2: Of cow Montana's got big al I don't know about why, man,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I know Idaho Utah has huge old I'm not an
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: elk hunter, but I know all this because for the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: one time I went out cutting I gave my trainer,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: my horse trainer, my tag. I just followed him. Oh wow,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it was cool and he shot his shoe six bices.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. So you gave him the tag, just
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: went along with Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I just went along state behind when he when they
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: had we got down, you know, crawling around. It was Hey,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it's it's impressive. Animal.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: You've never done it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I don't hunt. You don't hunt it all just because
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I can't hoo. I don't like to shoot stuff.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I get it, Yeah, I get it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I'll kill a snake and a heart beat or I
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: even have a hard time killing in a mouth. I really, yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Snake, snake, scare me, centipede.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'll crush a centipede for all these words, then put
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: him in a grinder in the kitchen, grind that sucker up.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: He might still be alive. You ever been Towaii and
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: got a hold of some centipedes? Joe, Joe Jo? Hear
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: me clear? They're dangerous?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them are yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh they're gross. Ye yeah. So a hunter.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: My dad was a hunter. All my uncles are hunters.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I never.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Did I hain't nothing wrong with that. You don't have
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: to do it. It's not necessary. You could always go
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to the grocery store.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I do that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you wanted to get it yourself, it's
• 21:35
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• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I don't. I enjoy It's like fishing. I'll go fishing
• 21:40
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• 21:42
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• 21:44
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• 21:46
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• 21:50
  Speaker 3: A Big island man called a foot long centipede. That
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: dude caught that on the Big Island of Hawaii.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Hey check that out. Hey, but look at here right here.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't know they got that big.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Is that an invasive one? Or is that that can't
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: be native to Hawaii? Is it Hawaiian giant centipedes? Whoare
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty good lighter too. Yeah. Yeah that
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• 22:32
  Speaker 3: N Oh, yeah, So you have no problem killing sun beats.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: You just don't want to kill an animal.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, if you don't kill them, they
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: get killed by something. It's usually either winter or mountain lions.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: We raised twenty seven mallard ducks. My wife and I.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: You raise them, raise them, raised, raised them. And so
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I told her this morning flying down here to Austin,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: So I told her, I said, we got five ducks left.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: What happened to him? Stupid ducks? And we live way
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: out in the country. What they're doing is coming out
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: of the lake, walking through the field, crossing over the road. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: they get crushed and they're getting hit on the road.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Oh why why? I had no idea, But we have
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: five left out of twenty seven.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Are you raising them for eggs? Just for fun? Just
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: to have ducks hanging around?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ducks, Well, we had ducks, chickens, guineas.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Duck eggs are interesting. You ever have them?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not eating a duck egg. I don't know why
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: they're darker yolk. I know that you ever had a
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: guinea egg?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Guinea? Yeah, no, I don't think so.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's good for you.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But the duck eggs are weird. They like coat your mouth,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like when you eat them.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: It's just it tastes different. But apparently it's massively high
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: in protein.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about eating buffalo and elk. You
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: don't come in today, and I said, well, I've had
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: buffalo and that elk that my trainer kill. I can
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: have all of that I want. I got one little steak.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: My wife won't let me cook.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: It, so I won't let you cook it, so I haven't.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: So it's still sitting there. No wild game in the house. See,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I know, but it's just meat. You met her earlier.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Has a problem with when we leave here today, go
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: and say, hey, Tammy, how about how about we go
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: over to the house and have a nice little little
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: elk steak and you know, hey, I ain't gonna happen.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Some people have a bad misconception about wild game, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: they think that it smells bad or tastes bad.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's taste. I don't like deer, really, I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: don't like deer. I like buffalo.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's how it's prepared. I guarantee you if
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you had deer from someone who prepares it well duck, yes.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Eat duck, Yes, they don't. We tried to eat We
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: tried to cook some duck.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was horrible. See this is what we're talking. No,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I think it's just how you're preparing it. Really, I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I do know this. Mister Childs got some of the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: best duck I've ever had, Right, mister Child's in Los Angeles,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I eat duck. Fantastic duck. Yes, yeah, yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: now that's I think they probably do a better job
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: of preparing it. That's all it is.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: We tried to do the route the rude that you
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: cooked duck in.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it ended up looking like dar right, do you guys,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: But do you know how to cook?
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Well, we thought we did. We found that cook is your.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Wife, Yes she is. Anthony Bourdaine went on this duck
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: hunt with these guys and cooked the duck for them
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: because they were complaining that duck doesn't taste good, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: he got mad at them. He's like, listen, listen, listen,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: don't say that. It's not that duck doesn't taste good,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: it's she don't know what you're doing. And on the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: show he prepares it for them and like this is fantastic,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Like that's how you're supposed to prepare duck. It tastes
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: really good if you do a good job.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Missus childs got it down.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: The chef's professional. But my wife and I we got
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it out of out.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Of the computer. Oh okay, you got a recipe.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we got this friend of mine sent it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: five mallards, right, I think we got two of them out.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: We didn't know what we were doing. Do they cook
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: down and you don't have a half a bird or what?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. So we got so you got to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: make a rude right, you know, the sauce, right, the sauce.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So we got the big pot out, and we're putting
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: this in, that in this and that in right now
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you heat it, get it this and that and then
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you stir add this and that and we stirred and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: we started, and the more we stirred, I ended up
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: looking like a rubber tire. Let's it was horrible. Uh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: it was, seriously, but Terry, I want.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: You to think about it this way. Imagine if someone
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: learned how to play football from YouTube, never played football
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: for Oh, let's figure out how to play football. We're
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: gonna watch a YouTube video on how to play football Apple.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: And then they went out there and had a fucking
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: terrible game. They looked like shit, right, all right, that's
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the same thing as like you learn how to cook
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: from a recipe.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Well, if you don't know how to cook, have you.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I've got a book out called the Bradshaw Family Cookbook,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and so you can cook. Yeah, oh yeah, but I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: don't cook stuff like that. I make a ring. Now,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: my son in law you met Noah. Yes, he's a
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: world renow. Not a world renow, but he was. He's
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: number one voted in the number one chef in Dallas.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, he's from Hawaii.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: What restaurants do you cook out of Dallas?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Ham's he he they hire him. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, sure,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they hire him. He does these goes out and cooks
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: for companies and people. It's amazing, amazing. As matter of fact,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I called him yesterday after church and I said, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: got some I always mess up pork pork chops. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: love pork chops, but I screw them up. And he said,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: what's got temperature at thirty? I said, three p fifty said,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes, take them off. That's all I needed to know.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: It's perfect, it's beautiful.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you just got to learn how to do it. Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: it's not that the duck tastes back.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Here's the bad thing about it. I know my I
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: know my banker who's the one I got the ducks run.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: His name is Drake Mills.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: His name is Drakes, Drake ducks, and he has duck ducks.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: He's a duck hunter, but his name is Drake Drake. Yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I told him crazy, I know, but he's how ironic
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: serious duck hunter, serious plans five hundred acres of rice shot.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Serious.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Then he's on the phone with me bitching s eighty
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: degrees duck story. I mean they are coming to an
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: eight degree is rice and he's got water issues. Do
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: you know how to cook duck? I guess I never.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: He's never asked me what I want to eat it duck?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: But I asked for some duck. He told me one
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: day he had plenty of duck, and I said, well,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: tell me, we don't shoot stuff, but I like duck.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: So he sent us five duck ducks, you know, And
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: that's so. So that's what you cook. That's what I
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: cooked his ducks.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Did you ask him how he cooks it?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: No? I don't think so. No, probably should have.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Probably good idea. Well, I mean the book, right, the book,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Come on, Joe, Yeah, the books quarter Really the right
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: way to do it is to learn from someone who
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: is really good.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I got to take a break here. This is pretty
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: dang good. If you had, have you had any more?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I have? We need to bump again. I'm telling when
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: this is over, let's Go'll be sitting over there, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I'll be sitting over there.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Let's try it. It's got quite a kick. I'll tell
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you that there's there's a lot in there.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: You can tell.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: It's one hundred and thirty five proof it's good. But yeah,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I think duck cooking like I've heard people say that
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: wild game tastes bad. It's it's the best tasty meat
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: in the world. It's just how do you cook it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I've had wild turkey.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Dang, Oh you're crazy. It was delicious. I mean, the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: only way wild turkey. Squirrel. I've had squirrel, Yeah, I see,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I grew up on squirrel. Now you tell my wife
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that are you telling my kids that? Oh God?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: This is a lot like chicken. Right, it's a lot
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: like chicken.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Is that your stand up comedian? Is that? Is that
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a funny?
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: No, it's kind of chicken like. It's almost like a.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Squirrels tastes like chicken.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not like a red meat.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Do you eat the brain?
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I have not eaten squirrel brain?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the brain.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I've had Lamb's brain before. M Yeah, my uncle Vinnie
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: used to go. He used to slice up they used
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: to sell in the grocery store in New Jersey. They
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: would slice up a Lamb's skull with the brain inside,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: like sliced in half, and they put two halves on
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: the grill and they would cook Lamb's brains on the grill. Hey,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I was like ten, I don't know.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My brother and I used to fight over the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: squirrel head. Now I don't want.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: To the squirrel head used to fight over.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I don't want to gross out our viewers out too late. Well,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: you take them, you take them, and you hit them
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: with a spoon and rip it. Whoa crack it open.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Let's wait, I mean now what I eat one today? No?
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: How old are you when you were doing this?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I was, I know at least fifteen up to fifteen. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't think anything of it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Brains are sketchy, like eating brains can get you in
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: trouble like that's.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Can I honestly say, this is just the first interview
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: ever done with brains. Eating brains has been brought up.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Probably not, oh not. We talked about eating brains before,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: sure we have, yeah, definitely. Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Well I'm not because special today, but.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I think we talked about it in terms of what
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: mad cow disease is. Mad cow disease comes from them
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: feeding cows cows. It's it's basically the same disease accountables get.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not familiar with that. Yeah, I know about
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: mad cow disease. They got another one going on right
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: now in South Texas. Is some kind of disease.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: The screw worms.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: Screw worms, Yeah yeah, bridge about that which New Worlds
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: me you horses, dogs, Yeah, Yeah, it's a it's apparently
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: a huge problem.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they had it in America and I think
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: in the eighties, and they pushed it back, they got
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: rid of it, so hopefully they can get rid of
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: it again. But it's apparently a really dangerous parasite.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, it's a parasite. So I mean, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: got in trouble one time for seeing uh people were
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: having during the COVID thing and they were taking ivermectem.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: You may have taken ivermactm and I gave it. I
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: didn't know any better. I thought I knew, but I
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: didn't know. But ivermectum. I used to give it to
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the cattle rights, that's what. Yeah, And I had a
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: not speaking of brains, this is true. We're in Hawaii.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I run into a brain surgeon and he says, I
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: are you okay with the COVID thing? And I said,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I had it, got over it, you know, I'm all
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: right now. And he says, well, he says, boy, he said,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I take ivermectin. Man, that's been I said, brain surgeon,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And I said to him, obviously, I said, really, it's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a cattle d wormer. I remac it kills parasites. So
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I just left it at that and I walked on. Brain.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I never could rationalize that kind of thinking.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: But yeah, well you know I've remeced and won the
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Nobel Prize for Human Beings for use in human Beings.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't know.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good for a yellow fever, dengay fever. It's
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: an anti parasitic that also has anti viral properties.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So I didn't know that. Obviously I wasn't as well
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: informed as you are.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I got in trouble for it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Oh so did I.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Well, I got in trouble like publicly, like on CNN.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: The White House talked about it during I got over caught.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: You don't know the story, so and for the people
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: that know the story, I'm sorry I have to repeat it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: But during the pandemic, I got COVID and we had
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Me and Dave Chappelle were doing a show in Nashville,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: and I had to cancel it because I had COVID,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And so I made a video saying that I feel better,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: but we have to cancel the shows. I had COVID.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: I was sick for a couple of days, but now
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I'm fine, And I explained all the stuff that I took.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: I took a bunch of stuff, monoclonal antibodies, and one
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: of the things that I took was ivermectin. So it
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: became this huge thing on CNN because they wanted everybody
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: to get vaccinated. So they had all these different people
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: saying that I was taking horse dewormer. Well was human
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: medication prescribed to me by my doctor, who also took ivermectin,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: also got covid, also got better, and he didn't take
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: all the stuff that I took. I took a bunch
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: of stuff. But they changed the color of my skin.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: They made my skin look green on CNN, like no bullshit, Oh,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: no bullshit, Like they literally put a filter on my
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: face to make me look green.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: They would put a cow's head over me. I honestly
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: did not know that you that a human.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And takes, but I will say, actually invented for humans.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I actually didn't know that. And and I'm thankful that
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't argue with anybody. And he wasn't the only
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: one that told me that.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Well, the problem was, it was that was a narrative
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: that was all over the news, was that it was
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: horsety warmer. And if you're a person who works with animals,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: with horses, it is a de wormer. But that's like
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: saying penicillin is a veterinary medicine. No, well, they use
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: penicillin on animals, they also use penicillin on humans. It's
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: like it's medicine. We're mammals. We have similar medicines. That's
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: what ivermectin is. It's it stops viral replication, and that's
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the benefit to stop. There's a ton of studies, there's
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of people that have written books. I'm not
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: the guy to talk about it, but there's a lot
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: of evidence that the reason why they were not telling
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: people to take ivermectin is because they wanted everybody to
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: get vaccinated. And I don't want over here, thank you,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: But the reason why they wanted to get everyone to
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: get vaccinated is not because it was effective. It's because
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: they wanted to make a lot of money. And that's
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: what they did.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Well, when you're talking about drugs, you're talking about a
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: lot of money. Ah money, a lot of money.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: So that's why it's ironically you brought it up because
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I got caught the crossfires of the ivermectin bullshit.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: And see I but I you knew more about it
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: than I did, because farmer, that's all I used it for.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I used it very effective as a dean warmer, but
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: it also stops viral replication.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: And but I wasn't gonna take it. I don't care
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: if they just said, this is great. I wasn't gonna
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: take that.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't take it even if it was prescribed to
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: you by your doctor.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Well it would be a different story.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm married to a doctor, and my doctor said
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: we're not taking him. But I took. You know, I'm
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: one of those guys that if they say I mean
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: when I When I got uh COVID, I was sitting
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: in my dressing room at Fox, felt fine, felt fine.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: We got tested every every Sunday morning we got tested.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: They came in and said, you gotta go, you gotta leave.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: What happened? You got? You got COVID?
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, did you get sick?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: No? Oh, now here's the thing.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: The question that came to mind later was, Okay, the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: guy that drove me over here, the guy that's going
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to take me to the air. But how am I
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: getting home? Do I stay here in the hotel for
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: ten twelve days? That was my dilemma? What do I do?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: But I did get sick, eventually I did. Yeah, it
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: took me about four days and now I got real sick.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you do anything during those four days? Were
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: you taking vitamins nothing, why not? I don't take vitamins
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: what I don't really No, I'll come and you're married
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: to a doctor.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I never I never have to taken vitamins. I don't
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: know really, even when you're playing. No, not take a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: B twelve shot.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, well I give it to myself. You give it
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: to yourself.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Intramuscular huh yeah, Okay, a little tube, wo'd take it
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: after bound had them in a big bag. Okay, that's
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: good for energy.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: But there's hot hot tired. But yeah, sure too. Though
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with MRI machines, pet scans, surgery. No, no,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I got a bad heap right now. I'm telling you, Joe,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: it's killing me. Yeah, and I got it injected. Then
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: stem cells with No, I don't do themselves. Why not?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in stem cells.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: You don't believe in them, No, but you believe in
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: that little baby Jesus.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: For this, I do believe in laugh that, Joe. You
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: don't want to laugh when I got Baby Jesus pointing that,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you better cut that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Laughing bro go fishing. I'm going to beg you to
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: point that baby. No, No, I'm gonna give you one.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I got hundreds of these if we go fishing. I
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: really want to point I believe, Yeah, I believe that
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: little baby Jesus works. My question is you don't believe
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: in stem cells.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I had too many people based just on people that
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: went did stem cells? Huh? And what happened? They went
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: back and did it again?
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Did it again? Right? Then what happened?
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: They went back and did it again?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Then what happened?
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: They went back and did it again? Got it? Okay?
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Why they keep going back because it didn't work? Okay,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: it didn't make it all? Symptoms came, no, no, no,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: it worked. It worked for a little bit.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, what are these people dealing with? What's wrong
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: with them?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: They're going back and back and back. Mostly knees, run ankles.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you're probably talking about arthritis. Yeah, probably talking
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: about degenerative knee conditions, angle matitions. So the amount of
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: damage that you're trying to repair with stem cells, you're
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: going to get a little bit of benefit at something
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: like that if it's that far gone. But stem cells work.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I don't you know? Good? I'm glad I'm glad they
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: you do symptails. What what hurts?
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: When I had a rotator cuff tear that completely went away,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Now that's at least a.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Year, that's what you say, at least they I had
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: a full.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Length rotator cuff tear. I got stem cell shot into it,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: full tar, full tear. My doctor told me I one
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: was going to need surgery. I went to an orthopedic
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: surgeon that the UFC recommended, so they sat finish.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Joe, excuse me, please, But if I finished this, I'm
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: probably gonna believe you.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: You don't have to believe me or not believe me.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I'm telling the truth. So I went to this doctor.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: He said, you have a full length rotator cuff tear.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: You're gonna need surgery. Goes. You could rehabit if you want,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: You could try maybe make it a little bit better,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: but ultimately you're just putting off the surgery. So I
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: get this stem cell treatment in Vegas. Doctor Roddy McGhee
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: hooks me up with the stem cell treatment and then
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: six months later he gives me an MRI and he says,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: the rotator tough tear is completely gone. He goes, I've
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: never seen anything like this in my life. He goes,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: it's gone. It literally the tear.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Doesn't Baby Jesus in your pocket.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: No, I had siance. All right, Hey, it works. You'd
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: be silly to ignore breakthrough science like this because there's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: a reason why so many people are doing it. The
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: reason why so many people are doing it is, Look,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: it's not a miracle. It's not gonna fix things are unfixable,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: like bone on bone arthritis. It's not gonna fix what
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I'm doing, but it might reduce some of the inflammation
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: to give you at least temporary relief, which is why
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: these people keep going back again and again and again.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: When I got cancer, I had to do certain treatments
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: and I have rheumatorid arthritis. Now, if I were still
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: in my rheumat arthritis medicine, which I haven't been for
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: three years now, I probably wouldn't be having the pain
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that I'm having. But you can't take the rheumatoid arthritis
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: after you have radiation, and so do you want to
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: risk that? Plus plus I kept getting all these cancer things.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: So you had two types of cancer, right, you had skin.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Had bladder and merkele sale, which is two percent of
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: America has two percent has mercle sale, both of them.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: The bladder cancer was was uh. I went to a
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: doctor in Dallas. He checked me and he says, well,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you got a little blood and you're yuine, but that's fine,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: that's normal or something like that. And I kept complaining.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Then I went on. Finally I told my wife. I said, boy,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: something's not right. And so she researched and found that
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the best doctor was at Yale University. Yeah, Yale. So
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I went up to New Haven, Connecticut for testing, went
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: in exploratory biopsy, came out and said, you got a
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: lot of cancer. Wow, that's a funny story about that
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: funny story that there's nothing funny about cancer. But I
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the last time I got divorced. You ever been divorced? Okay, good,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: good for you. So the last time I got divorced,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: my wife calls me in. She says, I need for
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you to sit down. I don't love you anymore. I
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: want a divorce. Oh all right, end of that story. Right.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: The wife's sitting outside after they get she gets reports.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't know she got the report. She says, honey,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I need for you to sit down. I ain't sitting
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: down I don't want another divorce. That's the first flatten
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: into my head. The last time I heard a woman
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: tell me sit down, I need for you to sit down.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: My ass is out of there. At five o'clock that afternoon. Boy, hey,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: yeah that was I wouldn't sit down. She said, she said,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you got bladder cancer, and I said, all right, I
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: deal with bladder cancer. I can't deal with another divorce.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I want to hear a crazy story about stem cells
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: and bladder. Let me ask you something, let me tell
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: you something. Let me tell you something about stem cells.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: They made a bladder for this woman out of stem cells.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: She had some sort of a bladder issue. I don't
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: remember if it was cancer or what it was, but
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: she had ever a bladder removed. They made a completely
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: new bladder for her out of stem cells with her
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: own skin tissue, put it back in her body, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: now that's her bladder. So stem cells work.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Did that make the news?
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh sure, there's there's articles about the peer reviewed
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: paper's been here. No, she has not been here, nor
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: has the doctor that did it. But I'm aware of
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: the story.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: It's like putting it in a bowl and you grow
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: it in a bowling.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know how they did it because I'm a moron.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: But someone someone.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Very when its stuff like that, someone very.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Smart figured out how to make a bladder.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: But I won't sure you and you believe it? Or
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: who am?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: I ton't believe it? Like she she's got a blatter.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Now if you believe what, fine, But I mean, I
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: mean fine, that's listen.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: If you ever get injured, holler at me. I'll bring
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: it aways to well, get you some stem cells, and
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: then we'll have another conversation. Afterwards you're like, wow, it
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: fixed it.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're not arguing here.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: No, we're not arguing, but I'm saying, but I just
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: there's there's real reasons why these people travel the tea
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: wanna and go to these different places.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: They die. What was a great actor? They went to
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Mexico to have all the stem cells done? And who
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: did that? He was the ghost? What was his name?
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: The actor also died. Two actors went down there for
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: stem cells. When Steve Selles first came out. You know
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't do it, remember when they wouldn't do it
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: in America. Yes, So they were going to Germany. They they
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: were going to Mexico.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Germany was a lot for Regina kin You know
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: they were going.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: For because I know Fred Couples was going to Germany.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean Kobe Bryant went to Germany, Peyton Manning
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: went to Germany. They went to Germany. Yeah, for Regina Keene.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Which is like a very that's not stem cells as much.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: That's something it's it's a very advanced form of platelet
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: rich plasma like p r P. It's like pr P,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: but it's way more effective. I had that done too,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: That cured at a bulging disc for me.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Now one of the things they're doing now and I
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. I don't know how we
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: got on this, by the way, but stem cells, Yeah,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: but cancer is now what are they what is what's
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: it called? Will you go in? They spin your blood
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: and they then put it back in you what is
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: that called? You? You know what PRP?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: We're just talking about rich plasma then put it back in.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, interesting.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Look there's a well there's a bunch of differently plasma foresis.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: That's another thing. They take the plasma out.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. And I'm not sitting here. I'm
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: not sitting here saying Hey, Joe, you're crazy. All right,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: you did it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't be the first.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: No, you did it. You believe in it. It happened
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: for you, you know, all right. I don't mind taking a shot.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I'll take a shot all day long. You know. If
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: you put anything in your body with a.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Needle, anything, I mean, I'm pretty careful about it.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I would hope.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I don't just try it out. What happens?
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I put this in my body with a needle?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I got a sister in law, this
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: one that's totally this way and I'm totally that way
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: and you're one way. And that's good. That's what makes.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Me a liberal.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely, not very muchservative.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so how is she different than you?
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: What?
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Well? If so, if it works, and I think it's
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: going to work, I'm not afraid to try it. I was.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I was when I got diagnosis with rheumatory arthritis and
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I'm laying in the hospital and they take me and
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: they isolate me, isolate me because they didn't know what's
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: wrong with test test test test boy. I'm in hurry
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: then to go in and do I want to say
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: stem cells? I want to say it because that's the
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: first thing that comes to mind, went into my knee.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And I sat in the hospital for two more days
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: and felt fine, and then they released me and I
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: went home. And I was home one day and in
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night, I'm screaming and hollering in pain.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: My wife she gets up and thank god I at
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: that time I owned a plane, so I could get
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: on the plane and get back to Florida and got
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: down there, and that's when they found out I had
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: a rumor toward arthritis, and they had to bring us
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: specialist in to find out what the hell was going
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: on with So is it only the knees? Yeah, only
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: the knee. Okay, only the knee. That's where the knee.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I never there's no There's no rheumatar arthritis in my family. None.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: You get anywhere.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Arthritis systemic, don't you when most people have it, don't
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: they have it everywhere? That's what I thought, Well, yeah,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: but look at but if you have it inn But look,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: this finger's just turning, that thumb's just now turning.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: My hands right now because I'm not I don't take
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: any medicine. The only thing that hurts in the morning
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: before I take I take a Do you take celebrates?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Do you believe in celebrate? Anti inflammatory? No? I don't. Okay,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I take an inflammatory in the morning. Okay, I take
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: an anti inflamma and that makes that takes about eighty
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: percent of the pain away. It doesn't hurt anywhere else.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Now my hip is starting to kill me. My ankle
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: was killing me. How about how many years did you
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: play football?
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: For?
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Fourteen? Fourteen professional? That's four that's high school, junior, high,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: high school, college, professional. And I and I played back
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: in the seventies, when I mean, come on, yeah, should
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: hit the fan back then? Right? What were the surgeries
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: like that then? You know? Yeah, I mean it was
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: tough back then. They shoot you up. You know you're
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: going to play. That's how it was. You're going to play.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: When I pull my stomach muscles and they shoot me
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: up before the game, and then at halftime, I get
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: shot up again. The stomach blo I torn, I torn
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the the oblique, he.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Tore yr oblique and they just made you keep playing.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: They didn't make me, but I warned to keep playing.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: What were they shooting you up with cortison or something?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, Joe, I'm not a doctor.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, are you a doctor? Hey, let me
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: just say this. I could play all right. I guess
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I did have a problem with it. Okay, it worked, scary.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: You don't want your legs up in the air. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: some doctor coming in there and didn't give it, didn't
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: give it a thought at all. You know, just it's
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the way it was. It's it was
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: the unspoken bravado, got it? Yeah, you know that football
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: players say back in the can you imagine the fifties
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: and the sixties, shees.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Louise, Well, what what year did you start playing professionally?
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Seven seventy seventy Wow, I'm seventy seven. Wow, you're what
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: fifty fifty eight, fifty almost fifty nine?
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seventy. Yeah. So he just didn't think that
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: anybody said, well, how'd you get used to all that?
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I grew up with it. When you grow up with it, it's normal. Normal. Yeah,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: it's all part of that you play. And as a quarterback,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I think back then or anytime quarterbacks play, coaches got
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: to know that he can rely on his quarterback to
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: be out there and no matter what. And I even
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: had one coach say, hey, you always play hurt. You
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: always play hurt. Yeah, I do. You don't shoot me up,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: it's dock it. Shoot me up with stuff? Yea, let's
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: have it stuff.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You don't ask what it is, You just just
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: you want to hear. We played Cincinnati one year and
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: the night before the game there's a lineup of players
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: going into a room to be shot up. Whoa, yo, Yeah,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: it's just normal.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: And you don't know what they were shooting them up with.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Well we played, I told you stuff and you didn't
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: think anything of it. Nobody, right, It is normal, normal, normal.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: You gotta play.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he three, it's part of the you know, everybody is.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: You know, did they have steroids back then? Yeah? They did.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I just didn't. I didn't know why why one player
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: was built like atlas, skin tight, muscles, bulging, didn't know
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: any you know, didn't know anything about it. Howie Long,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: you never had Howie on the Howie's No, I've never
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: had how He's amazing how he tells this story. He
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: was a rookie defensive tackle or no defensive end at
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: this time. He lined up over our Tidan Larry Brown,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: whose arms were this big around and he was had
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: like a twenty two inch waist, massive legs, ripped every
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: muscle you could see the muscles in his most gorgeous
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: body on a human being you've ever seen. And he
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: put his he put his arm, he put his arm down,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: you know, getting in position, and how he lined up
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: over and then how he tells us how he's the best,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: and how he goes. You gotta be effing kidding me.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: He said he'd never seen anything like that. So I'm
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: not saying Larry steroids or anything like that, but he was.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: But he might have, might have.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know, he might have.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here did steroids enter into sports? Well, I think
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: it came. I think it became an issue after the seventies.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Correct, Well, it was an issue in the Olympics and well, yeah,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: the things that were noticing, the Eastern Bloc women they were.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, Nancy, they were very.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Womenly they they seem to. And then those women reported
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: about it, They talked about it back in the day.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: You know that they were forced to take steroids and
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: it ruined their life and not good for you, especially
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: for a woman to take. For male for sure, you
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: You and I could probably sit here and talk about
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: certain athletes that it had such a body change, all right,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: yeah for sure, and go, you know, yeah, gotta be
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: kidding me. Yeah, And then I think rightly or justifiably,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: so it was probably due to steroids. We wouldn't want
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: to say that, wouldn't.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but well, I know a lot of guys
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: were taking steroids, especially because of the early days of
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: the UFC. Everybody was taking steroids. Yeah, you can tried.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: In Japan everyone was taking steroids. Not everyone, but most
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: people Rampage didn't. But there's a good you.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Found out when you found out later that steroids are
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: not good for you. They softened the tendons and ligaments,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: and you know, and then all of a sudden, these
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: athletes start having problems. They start getting hurt, they start
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: getting hurt, start getting hurt, and you know.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I think what happens is the muscles are too strong
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: for the tendons. These tendons take too long, ud they
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: don't grow at the same pace as muscle tissue does.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: When you're on steroids. They don't have the same sort
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: of circulation. I only thing about star I don't know.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know the dynamics or the physy physy physics
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: of it. I know, the muscles get big, right, but
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: the tendons don't grow.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: But it is muscles exactly. It takes longer for tendons
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: to strengthen. Tendons don't have as much circulation, they don't
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: have a good blood supply. That's why it's so hard
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: when a tendant gets injured injured to heal. So uh,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: what happens a lot of times is these guys developed
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: these massive muscles and they can move so much more weight,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: but the tendons haven't really caught up to what the
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: muscles can do. And a lot of times these guys
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: wind up blowing out tendons.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, the the that wrestling bunch. I mean, every
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: one of those guys look like an Adonis.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, especially back in the day. Schwarzenegger is there. Yeah,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: well he's open about it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: You know, he took a lot of you know what,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: we know what someone say it Yeah, yeah, they're not stupid.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a sport where it's required if you want
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: to be mister Olympia. It's no, there's no way to
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: get that kind of a body without starbuds. It doesn't exist.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: What about the what about the WrestleMania bunch, you were
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: part of that?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sure I wasn't. I wasn't a part of that,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: but I'm.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Sure a bunch of those no, no, no, okay.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: No, but I'm sure a bunch of those guys probably
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: take it too. That's how you get big, you know.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: And if you're a wrestler and you want to be
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: on Wrestleman, if you want to be a professional wrestler,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: you want to be this hulking figure, there's one way
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: to do it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: You got to take steroids.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: It's not a normal physique for someone to attain, and
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: you don't get tested for it exactly.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: That's why the early days of the UFC there was
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: no testing, and then when it started getting sanctioned, then
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: we were tested by Athletic Commissions. And then eventually the
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: UFC realized we've got a real problem where these guys
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: are figuring out how to beat the Athletic Commissions testing
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: because it's only one day, so it's really more they
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: would call it an intelligence test rather than an IQ test. Yeah,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: And so then they started using USADA, and USADA would
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: just randomly test people, and then they started catching people,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: and that's when physiques really changed.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I you know that year, I'll say it that year
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: when those baseball players are hitting sixty home runs like
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: it was nothing. Yeah, and you're looking at them and
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: going geesh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was the best. Yeah.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: They should give them all steroids. It's the only time
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: baseball's fun.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: O what it was. Yeah, the viewers were tuning Dan
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosad days, Barry Bonds, Yeah, Barry.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Went from one to.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I met Barry when he was normal sized, when he
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: was like a normal athlete, and then he just got giant.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: But also he was a great baseball player first first,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: and then you give him all those steroids, and now
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: he's got all this muscle and he's just cracking them out.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Of the park. Those are the good old days. They
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: should have looked away. They should have turned their head away.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Boy, I'll tell you, I don't see nothing. They should
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: have everybody should have shut the fuck up and let
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: these guys take steroids. Let's go. Do you like home
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: runs are not? Let's go.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: That it's from Joe Rogan. We'll be back in a minute.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: The problem is it's the Great American pastime, and you
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: don't want to associate the Great American pastime with what
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: people think is cheating. But that's yeah.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Look, there's guys that didn't need to do it to
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame, and they're getting barred
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: from the Hall of Fame. That's true. Barry's one. I Bury.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Barry was a great player with.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: That fantastic player, Mark is Mark Maguire and so Sami.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't need it. I don't. Maybe maybe they didn't
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: think they'd be noticed. Maybe they didn't they could get caught.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe the guys got giant.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know how they didn't think that people would
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: notice they got they got enormous, Yeah, for sure, But
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: you know, hey, it.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Is what it is.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: I mean it was a fun time though, yeah, fun.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Time, you know. I remember people asked me, they said,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: you didn't know your guys are on stair Wars, and hell,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what ster wars was. I remember one
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: time I was at the Hall of Fame. Someone that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: was the question that came to me about steroids. I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: didn't know any better. I said, well, hell, everybody take steroids.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I took steroids for this, you know, but not antibiotics. Still, right, Yeah,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't correlate the two different the differences
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: in one guy comes up to me, you idiot, it's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: it's there's two types at least that we know of,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: and I didn't know, you know, what. Let me tell
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: you the truth. I'm glad. I'm glad that I was blindfolded.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I'm glad my brain didn't function like that. I'm glad
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't look at anybody and go, what's you own?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I don't look. I just held out. Just they're lifting weights, brother,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: they just lifting weights. God bless them.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: You know, Well, that's a good attitude to have.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they say, well, your team was on steroids. Well,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: if that's the case, wasn't illegal. Everybody was doing it right.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Not only that, but let's be realistic, most teams were
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: on steroids because you're professionals and you want to do
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: your best. And if you got a bunch of guys
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: and the way they could do their best is to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: be as strong as they possibly can be, they're gonna
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: take steroids, especially when it's legal. It's just especially.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: You don't want to say it was a product of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: the times, but in essence it was.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Well, every time the times changed. When there's something effective
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: that comes along, like steroids, you're gonna have a bunch
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: of people that want an edge. And you know, there
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: was a time where people thought of creatine like steroids. Yeah, right,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Creatine is a very beneficial supplement that everybody should take.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: It's great for your brain, it's great for mitochondrial function,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: it's great.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: For Blueberries are good for your brain. Blueberries are good
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: for frank O Harris, She said, tell me, Brad, are
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: you eating a lot of blueberries? I said, frank You're
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: not gonna believe this, but I buy blueberries all the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: time because of you. It's good for your brain. Good
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: for your brain, they are. And I love brewberry.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of antioxidants in them too.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Blueberries are just great period.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: But you know, when you're doing things for your body,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: when you're a professional athlete, it's of course there's gonna
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: be a bunch of people that are on steroids like you.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: If you want to get bigger, that's the way to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: do it. Like, what are we doing here? Were lying?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: I think they do it today?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Do you think they don't do it today?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: That's the real question I asked you.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: They definitely do something. They do whatever the fuck they
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: can get away to.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: How big these kids are coming?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Oho, Well, there's also genetics, like people change.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Well, kids kids now days are eating.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Better, training better, eat better, more nutrition.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, They're huge they're huge. You know, I think
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: my I think my offensive line in the seventies average
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: about maybe to sixty to sixty wow.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Sixty hundred pounds difference than today.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Right now, you're love of these coaches. My offensive line
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: this year is gonna be six five three seventy two.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: And you go, whoa, Now can they move? And then
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: say something like, but got quick feet? Okay, got quick feet?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I love quick feet.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: It's crazy when you see some of these guys doing
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: the forty.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: You go, you've been on the sideline.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I watched videos, haven't been go to the sideline.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Go to seven feet.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Tall, four hundred and forty pounds. That guy fifty feet crazy,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: seven eighty Oh my god, look at that as an
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: eighth grader. Go back to that picture. As an eighth grader.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: He was six foot ten, four hundred and fifty pounds
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: in fucking junior high school. Junior high school. Yeah, you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: know Desmond Weston. Look at the Desmond Watson going four
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty four pounds, heaviest player.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Wow. Oh he's in the NFL.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, NFL history, four hundred and sixty four pounds. That's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: so big.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, about my guys. My guys could
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: put on their pants that nothing rolled over.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you're saying.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were flat belly. They were in shape because
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: we ran and we ran. Our game was all about
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: motion traps and specials and leads and stuff like that.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: They had to run. They had to run, and they ran.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: And if they were four hundred pounds, you're gonna pull
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: this guy right right under pounds. I mean, so, I
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: if I were coached today, just my my thinking, what
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I want. I want an athletic guy. I don't want
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: a big guy. I want I don't want a guy
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: that you go, all right, we're gonna do gassers, Billy
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: John Williams, William Arrol, uh, y'all go ahead and go
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: on and get shower now, three eighty. Whether they camp,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: they can run gassers, they can run gassers, right, you know,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: run the mile. We had to run a Steeler mile
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: every year and we got training camp. Well, if you're
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty five thirty pounds, now, I don't
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: want to pigeonhole everybody because there are some guys I've
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: seen in the NFL that I've walked by before the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: game started, and I turned it to Howe, how he's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: always that, we're always together, and went, hold, isn't there
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: a utility though?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: Isn't there a value a function of a big, giant
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: dude that maybe can't run gassers but can stop but
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: play dead in its tracks because you run into a
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: brick wall.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Right, Maybe he's only got to go five yards, That's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Oh yeah, yeah, But that wasn't how
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I was brought up, right, that wasn't what I was taught.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: But obviously you're a fan of the game still and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: you still watch the game. How much has the game
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: changed from when like nineteen seventy your first year and.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Talking about it?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: But like big, but would you imagine that the guys
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: from nineteen seventy would fit right into today's game?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, besize Joe Green
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: made the Hall of Fame at two seventy five, seventy five, Uh,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: Jack Lambert to eighteen a middle linebacker Hall of Famer Jack.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Calm Big was Jim Brown in his prime? Jim Brown.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I never played against Jim Brown.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: It was before your time. I think it was Jim.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Probably twenty maybe two fifteen that crazy. Yeah, So I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: always I always say size wise, we can't do it.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: And then of course you want to really get into it,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: then talk about money and stuff like that. But size wise, sizewase. Now,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: I will say this, the wide receivers, the quarterbacks and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: running backs could play today and probably the tide ends.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: But then when you get my center way two fifty two,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: and I always say, since I'm in the cattle business,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: I'll take a little young bull. I'll take my angus
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: bull over your Charlotte bull. Anytime your charbalt bull is
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: gonna be or seminole is gonna be huge up off
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: the ground, but my angus bull is gonna get under
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: him and be able to control him with with with
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: with technique. And wait a minute, you got bulls fighting
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: each other as no, Joe, you're not listening. You're okay,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: you get some rest last night, just okay, fully rested. Right. Yeah,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: got a big bull, the little bull, he's already got
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: the leverage because he's under the big ball.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: The big bulls got to get down to get leverage
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: on the lever. He's got all the masks and the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: weight out numbers.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Sort of like Mike Tyson in his prime, right, the bad.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Sucker, bad, bad bad. He came in a restaurant I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: was in and he saw him, and he came over
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: and he pulled up a chair. There was an owl
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm sitting up here next to the wall, and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: then there's dinner chairs here. He went over, he pulled
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: up a chair, slid over, blocked the isle, and we
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: talked about Johnny and Ninas for an hour. Wow, Mike Tyson,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: that's pretty cool.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Well, he's a giant fan of all kinds of athletes,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean, that guy studies, He studies warriors
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: and athletes and former generals, and he's, Oh, he knows
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: so much about Jengis Khan me and we had this
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: long conversation. He knew his original name about Khan. Yeah,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: I did. I knew a lot about it. Well, not
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: a lot, I would say, but I got pretty obsessed.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: And there's a guy named Dan Carlin. He's got a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: fantastic series called Hardcore History. It's a podcast, and he
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: had the series on Genghis Khan called The Wrath of
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: the Khan. And that that that got me obsessed. That
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: opened up the door and then I started reading books
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: on Genghis Khan and watching documentaries and I got obsessed.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a huge documentary guy.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: But he knew so much about Genghis kan He knew
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: his original name, which was Temagen. He knew his whole
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: story about how he was born with a blood clot
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: in his hand. Mike knew everything about it. Mike studies
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: like conquerors. You know, He's like really, yeah, he's a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: very smart guy. Mike is a very interesting guy. He's
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: not He's not what people think of. If you think
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: of Mike Tyson's being this like mindless destroyer, and he's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: very intelligent.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: He ever, he ever? Ever you ever think about why
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: do athletes? I have an image? My image was the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: guy you ever have you ever asked yourself a question?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Why why is your opinion about Mike Tyson so different?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Now since you interviewed him? But prior to that that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: wasn't out in the press, was it? No?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe his career, but you'd have to watch
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: a guy fight like that, and he fought so brutally,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: and if you weren't a student of boxing, you wouldn't
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: understand like the amount of thinking that has to take
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: place to get that good, Like, it's not just that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: he's just running at people and punching them. He's bobbing
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: and weaving, He's being incredibly elusive. He's shifting his weight
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: to the left and shifting his weight through, he's cutting
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: angles like a middleweight. He's doing things to these guys
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: that they've never seen a heavyweight do before. And he
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: also was a giant student of boxing. So his manager
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: was a guy named Jacobs, a short twenty inch neck,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was a tank. And his manager was
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: this guy Jim Jacobs. Jim Jacobs was a boxing historian,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: and he had all of these old film reels of
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: everyone from Jack Johnson to Stanley Ketchell to Jack Dempsey,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: like all the old time fighters, and Mike would watch
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: those on a all day long, so he would train
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: and they watch these guys all day long, so he
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: had an access to film footage that most fighters, all
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: you could see is the guys in the gym and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: the guys that you saw fight live. Back in those days,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: in the eighties, there was no there was no VHS tapes,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: you know, there was no like real tapes of boxing
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: that he could watch back then. So when Mike, this
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: is when Mike was like thirteen. So Mike was thirteen
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: years old, and he's watching film of the greatest Sugar
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Ray Robinson, the greatest boxers of all time, Willie Pep,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Rocky Marciano. He's watching all these guys and absorbing their
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: styles and figuring out like it takes intelligence to do that, Like,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: it's not that's not what a dumb guy would do.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: A dumb guy wouldn't see.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, when he does this, it's.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Because of that, So he can you avoid the counter
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: and duck underneath and hit him at an angle where
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: he can't hit him. Beautiful. I'm going to incorporate that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: into my training and figure out how to how to
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: find those patterns.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: And I always thought, because you hear a CounterPunch, do
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: you know how hard? How hard it is? And I'm
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: not a boxer, but when someone's you watch their training
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: and then and then they when does this CounterPunch? Do
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: you know how fast that you do? Not how fast
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: that brain has to work for you to CounterPunch.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, you have to be lightning fast, lightning fast, and
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: you have to have trained it one thousand times.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: You want to be hit all day long in the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: face and the stomach.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: It's a tough way to make a living. But so
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: it's football, and especially back when you guys were playing
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: where they.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Were just shooting. Different for sure, but not boxing. Holy
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: I'm at I'm at Mohammed Ali. One time. I was
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: six three and a half. I'm six one and a
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: half now, and I was looking up to him, and
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he wasn't any but I was looking up
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: to him because I was so impressed. And you know,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: we got we had a we had a great first
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: time meeting. He was a fan of mine. I didn't
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: know it and was like, oh, that made me great.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: And I went to a couple of banquets that he
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: was at and he had send notes down to me
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: to come down and say hello to him. Well, you know,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: I've got to bother him, and I'd go, I'd go down. Hey, hey, Jim,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: how are you doing? Terry Bradshaw? Yeah, yeah, hey, have
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: you heard this one? He tells me a joke, a joke.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: That's the last thing I expected, you know, for Muhammad Ali. Yeah,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: but I loved Muhammad Ali.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: That was an incredible, incredibly intelligent guy and also the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: first guy to figure out how to get attention by.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Talking, and I didn't like him. Did you like him?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: I loved him, but I didn't like him younger.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: I don't like him. I grew up in an era
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: of respect. You respect your opponent. You don't say anything
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: bad about him, you give him all the praise when
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: it's all said. You respect your pon. You don't show
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: show boat, you don't do anything. You don't run into
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the end zone, you don't do this. You respect your opponent.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: And that's the way that I was raised, and that's
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: how and that and actually the way I was coached,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: and I had at I had a hard time, a
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: hard time when Billy white Shoes Johnson of Houston woul
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: getting the end zone. He started doing that dance and everything.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I don't like it at all. And Billy white Shoes
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: is a he's a good dude, you know, and but
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it. I just don't like. I don't
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: like any athlete drawing attention to himself. If you're playing
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: tennis or golf, okay, that's one thing because it's you.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: But when you're playing a team a team event, everybody,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: somebody else had to do that job too. I just
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: had a hard.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: See what you're saying, yeah, in the team sport, but
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: in boxing, boxing is just one on one. But I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: just still didn't like it, even in boxing bragging.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: And now I look back now, of course I love
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: it now. Yeah, but he knew what he was doing.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Well, it's psychological warfare.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, he had Sonny Listing so confused before he
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: fought him. He would show up at Sonny Liston's house
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: and look the middle of the night and stand on
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: his lawn and scream at him. Yeah, he was just
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: fucking with that guy's head. He's climbing inside of his
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: head and like making sure that all day long he's
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: thinking about him. And he also thought he was a
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: legitimate insane person. Like the way he was acting, he
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: was not acting like a rational person. So he was
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: worried all the time. So he's like, worried, you're around
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: this insane person.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Well, do you ever see the video with it listen
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: if you can do if you can do that and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: back it up, which he did he did. Then I
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: tip my idea, you did you.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Ever see the video where they ran into each other
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: at a casino? So Sonny listed was at a casino
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: I think Sonny was playing cards and Muhammad Ali came back.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: When he was cashis, Clay came up behind him and
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: he starts granting and raving and saying crazy shit and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: get and Sonny pulls out a gun and shoots it
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: into the air and everybody scatters. It was a blank gun,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: but he anticipated that Ali was gonna do that to
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: They said, I'm gonna scare the ship out of this.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: You think you want to play crazy, Let's play crazy.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: See if you can find that video, Jamie. The video
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: is amazing. It's amazing because he just pulls this and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: then he shows like, shoots here. It is. Put your
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: headphones on real quick. Grub his headphone.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pull it up.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 10: The drawing a gun, Sonny wo.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: The whole situation finally came to a head when Clay
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: approached Listen at the Desert Inn in Las Vegas. The
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 10: champ was shooting craps and losing. Listen was in no
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: mood to be harangued by the Mouth from the South,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 10: drawing a gun sunny fire, frightening his young tormenter.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Into a hasty retreat.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: It was filled with blanks.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: So he shot the gun into his jacket to show
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: everybody that it was just a blank.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: So he was prepared crazy. That's pretty smart, is it.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like you got, this guy's acting crazy, like
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna out crazy him. I don't want to shoot anybody,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna out crazy him. Give me a gun
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: with some blanks. It just put it out.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Alex Bowin had a huge lawsuit because he pulled out
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: whether the gun was a blank and killed somebody.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: I mean that's yes, that was a problem with the
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: person who was handling the guns.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, But what okay, what.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Do you mean that wasn't Sonny Listen? That absolutely was
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Sonny Listening says it's from a movie.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: Bro, that's Sonny let himself dramatizing, retelling his own life.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 8: The man with the gun is an actor, not saying,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: let me see it was the movie set.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: What So it's a recreation of the actual scene that happened.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: There's no real footage of lifting firing a gun at Ali,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: not dramatic clip circulating online the one in nearly every
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: rare foot post as a scene from a nineteen seventy
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: seven film called The Greatest.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Oh I saw that movie, So let me see it again.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Can I see the video again? That's crazy they are
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. I would have swore.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: That you're listening to a narrator talk and this one
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 8: even has a narrator.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Wasn't Sunday list and Bald?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: No, no, Sonny listen bald No. Oh, that isn't Sunny Listed.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Well the video is so blurry.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Alright, there you have it.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's not Sonny Listing. Oh my god, I feel
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: like such a dumb ass. Find footage of Sonny list
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: in training. So he was for back in the day,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: he was the scariest heavyweight. Sonny Listing was the guy
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: he was.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: What's upon.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he went to prison, but it was the way
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: he won the title, the way he knocked out Floyd Patterson.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: It looked like Floyd Patterson had no business being in
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: there with him. He was that good, that good and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: that big, and a lot of people going into that
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: fight thought Muhammad Ali had no chance. They thought that
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: he was gonna get killed, because you know, Ali was
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: a very good fighter who was up and coming fast,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: really fast with his footwork and his movement. But everybody
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: thought that it was just a matter of time before
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Listing got him that's crazy. I recognize that guy. That actor.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Is that the actor that was in Magnum p I
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: I think it is. The actor's name is Roger E.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Moseley. Yeah, man, aha, look.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: At you, Look at me.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: You proud of yourself a little bit.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: I feeling slightly better now, but I'm ashamed of it.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: I realized that that wasn't actually Sunny Listing. So find
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: some footage of Sonny list in training.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 8: Even on this some of this I think has already
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 8: got some AI footage in it.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: But oh really, well, there's fitage this footage of him
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: hitting the ba there, Sonny, and this footage of Sonny
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: hitting the bag, and he would just put these holes
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: in the bag. He had just murderous punching power. He
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: was such a dang derous guy and everyone was scared
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: of him back then, you know, because he was this towering,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: hulking figure. Doctor Bada had massive hands, and I mean
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: he would brutalize the sparring partners. I mean, Sonny Liston
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: was putting people away. I mean he had look at
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: the size of his hands, just gigantic hands and tremendous power.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: But you know, Ali figured out a way to just.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Punch that took him out was even that big a punch.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: That's the second fight. That's the Lewis in Maine.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: The second one.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the fight when they fought in Lewiston, Maine.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: And that one is very tricky because in that so
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: he would hit guys with jabs and have them rocked
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: his his hands were so massive and his power was
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: so extraordinary.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: You ever boxed?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: I did some boxing, Yeah, I did not. I did
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: kick boxing, but I didn't do anything like sport boxing boxing.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that bad enough. You hit me with
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: your fist, don't kick me with your feet. I don't
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: want to of that. But I boxed one time, one round, Yeah,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: and I said, that's it, that's it. Yeah.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: Again, it's like cooking. It's like cooking duck. Something you
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: got to learn how to do. You can't just jump
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: in and think you're gonna be good at it.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah at it. Not only that I don't want to
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: be hit, Yeah, not fun.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: Well, back in the day and your your day, the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: way guys would treat getting hit. If you got hit,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: there was no like take a game off, get evaluated, no.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Nothing, concussion protocol. Hop Right back in son, I played
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: against the Minnesota no the Miami Dolphins in a playoff
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: game and I got knocked out, I mean knocked out,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: and I guess I came to in the fourth quarter.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: I went back in, played pretty good too, not bad,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: lost the game, but yeah, so went.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Woke up and then they put you back in after
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: you woke up.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I something like that. I went out in the
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: first quarter, I think a scorter on touchdown, kept it,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: got knocked out, and came back in the fourth quarter. Yeah, different, different, different.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Nowadays, if a player gets knocked out, how much time
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: do they make them take off?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: They're going to a tent And now you have a
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: concussion guy in the booth representing the NFL, so they'll
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: tell you get him out right, and they go into
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: a tent and they get evaluated. More than likely, if
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: they've been stunned, they're not going back in.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: How much time do they make them take off before
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: they let them play again?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: But they have to get evaluated every week, So it
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: could be what is that.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: Little baby cigars? So when you don't want to finish
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: a big one, oh little tiny ones, they're little money Cristo's.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, like these sometimes all.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: Right, So, but when they do that and these guys
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: are ko today, if they get knocked out, do they
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: have like a thirty day.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Rule, And no, it's not thirty days, but they do
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: go it's a week. It's they go in. They keep
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: getting keep getting evaluated, and they have to you'll have
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: you'll have some guys.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: There's no set timeline for discovery there you go well
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: for recovery. Rather, players must progress through these graded exertion
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: phases without any increase in symptoms symptom limited activity, prescribed
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: rest with limited physical and cognitive activity, transitioning to light
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: stretching and monitored light aerobic exercise. So with the UFC,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: when a guy gets knocked out, generally athletic commissions put
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: a hold on them like like it's a ninety day hold.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: And then some of them have like sixty day no contacts,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: so they're not even allowed to spar for sixty days.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: You get knocked out and that brain gets right of
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: like that. If the best game I played in high school,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: the best game I played in high school, a guy
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: by the name of Larry Brewer. I fumbled coming out
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: of out of the pocket in high school against Mendon
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: high school. I'm rolling to the right and I think
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: the ball hits my leg and it hits the ground
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: and it's barom barum. I'm I'm chasing it. And about
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: the time I get to the ball and get my
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: hands on it, and I picked my head up, boom
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: out out, I don't remember anything. And then I'm back
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: in the game. And I mean, it's the best game
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: I played in high school, Joe, That's serious, best best
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: game I played in high school. Maybe I wasn't worried.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's what I was going to
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: ask crazy, you know, and I wanted to I went
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: and listen. I went, I've been to a couple of
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: clinics just for just for brainwork, just to get get
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: them checked out. Yeah, all the tests that they could
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: possibly do, extensive tests. Because I was having trouble remembering
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: that I opened the gate. Then I opened the gate
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: this morning, I opened the gate. I'm sure I opened
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: the gate and I pushed the button. And when the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: button's green, the gate is moving and then it goes red.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: It stopped. I mean, it goes yellow. It stopped. Then
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: I push a button, it goes red. It's holding it's
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: staying open six times. I remember six times, and I'm like,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: did I pushed this? But then I remember I remember, okay,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: there's something wrong or someone got checked. Yeah, how long
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: ago was this? Years ago? Years? Thirty plus years?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: And did they do something for you?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Carlin? Did they?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 11: Uh?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, I don't think. I don't
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: think anything came. I remember testing. I got tested and
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: found out I had a d D, which is which
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: was not a shocker, but was a shocker because I.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Think everybody has that.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's any good at anything, has it.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, creative people have a d D.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: Creative people and people that are like really into one thing, yeah,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: full on into it.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Well, they said, well you're focused this. Yeah, when I'm fishing,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: I'm focused. Right when I'm showing horses, I don't have
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: a problem. I'm focused. But if I'm taking geometry or
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: going to check.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, no interest exactly, no interest. So yeah, so
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: that if I'm learning something I'm not interested in.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: No focus. I mean, you got to sit here and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: study all this stuff for all these different people, and
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: I know you've got to be interested in them.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: You have to be interested.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, you've got to be here.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: But then these people that don't have a problem being
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: interested and they can study anything, and God bless them.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of those people. I have to be
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: interested in one of them.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Bradley Cooper own Bradley, Yeah, he did that.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: He's awesome.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: But the the brain guy, the Adam.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: Baum Oppenheimer, he was in that movie.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Well, that's he directed it and he was in it.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: He was he directed it? Right? I think he did?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: He did, he did direct it.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: What's up? That's right, it's Christopher Nolan directed Bheimer. Yes,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: what was his role? He's been in so many things.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, what are you thinking about the music guy? Yeah
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: he directed that and start in it? Oh yes, oh yes, phenomenally.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: I was trying to agree with you.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: I was like, what was Bradley and Oppenheimer? I haven't
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: seen Oppenheimer in a couple of years.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: I was just checking to see if you were on
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: paying attention. Eh.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: That dude who was played Oppenheimer.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: Series won an oscar? Did he win an oscar?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: At least he was up there, Sir Murphy, right, that
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: guy is phenomenal and what silly and Murphy? Silly and
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: Murphy Anyway, He's a phenomenal in Peaky Blinder.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Anybody that can act has got my attention because Cooper Bradley's.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: Well real acting, right, real acting, real acting. I've done
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: some sitcom acting. That shit's pretty easy.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: And you probably Joe right, I played Joe and not Terry.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Bradshaw's done like five movies and he was like, oh no, no, no, no,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: I'm no actor.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: But like you know, Daniel day Lewis type acting. Whoa,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: that's him. That's crazy. That's crazy Bradley, my god, and
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: he was in makeup.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: He he was amazing in that movie.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? They can make it look that realistic?
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: That is nuts.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Leonard Bernstein, Oh there you go. Yeah, you see the movie?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: You see it? I did not. When you had him
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: on here? Did you tell him you saw it?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: I did not. I would have probably I'd like, oh yeah, hey,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: it's like I had a guy.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: We went back to high school and met the assistant
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: trainer for the first time in years. I didn't know
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: his name, and this buddy of min how you do
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: making over here? Yall? And I'm like, he knows this,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: and they're going on out of that. Give me, give me,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: give me a hug you, you son of a gun.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: And for why he did this, I'll never know. He goes,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: what's my name? What's my name? He said that to him,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: what's my name? And I'm over there and I'm like,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: oh my god, this is hilarious. It is hilarious. Have
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: a have a clue? Well, he probably forgot if you
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: left the gate open too. No, I mean, give the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: guy a break.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: May have give the guy a break.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: But if you know what I do all the time,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: and I'll tell people this, but look, I don't what's
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: your name again? Joe, Joe? Hey, I may ask you again,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: right what your name is? And then I may ask
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: you again, but I'm going to get your name right.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to sit here and and not know.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: People get mad at that that I don't get me. Yeah,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think that.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: I don't because here's what I'm just a thing.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: That happens to people. And it definitely happens to people
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: that meet too many people.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Do you know what Dunbar's number is? No, Dunbar's number
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: is a number of people that you can keep in
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: your memory. Because we evolved in tribal societies of small
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: groups of people all this. I just remember somebody to
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: tell you this. Somebody definitely. I didn't study it. This
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: is Dunbar's number. So the maxim amount of relationships a
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: person can maintain.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: So which one are you? WHOA? WHOA? Whoa? Where are you?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Where are you?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Where are you?
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: In five you are zero your patient zero and five
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: are the people that are very close to you. So
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: that's your support people. And then fifteen are your sympathy group.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: They're not quite as close as like the closest people
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: to you, but they're pretty close. And then there's a
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: close network of fifty people. Then you have a personal
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: network of one hundred and fifty people. You have five
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: hundred acquaintances, and then fifteen hundred people that are recognizable.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny, I'll make this bad habit. We
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: all have bad habits. My bad habit is always friend
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: of mine. I know Henry Winkler. I know Henry Yah too.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: I did a movie with him once, this great guy, sweetheart.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: And my wife says, and I'll say, I have his number,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I have his number in my phone. I do have
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Henry's number, But I'll say, well, so as all because
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: i've met them, I automatically associate them with being my friend.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: I do the same thing.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just my wife will say, when you talked
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: to him last, Well.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: I haven't these people I haven't talked to for years
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: and years and years friends.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like a lot of friendly guy. Yeah.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: I like a lot of people. I do. But in
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: my circle, we all surround ourselves. Our best friends are
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: people that we have a lot in common with, and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: we share common values, common likes. Whether there's horses cattle.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: My whole world is horses and cattle, horses and cattle.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: The people that booked me for speeches, or dear dear
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: friends of mine, howie, dear friend Kirk Menafee different, different, different.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: I work with him. I love being around him. Tell
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: him I love I have a I have a habit
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: of telling you I love you, Joe, I love you, Man,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: I love you too, I love you man. And do
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: the thing yeah, yeah, okay, we're see you really love them?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: It means. What it means is I like you more
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: than I just like you're just yeah, I elevating you
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit here. And my wife is so smart,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: she's just like you really got their number. I said, yeah,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: I got their number and they're friends of yours. Yeah,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: when's the last time they talked to him? Well, didn't
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: talk to him in a few.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Hey, but if your friends, sometimes you can't be communicating
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: with everybody all the time. There's friends that I'm friends with.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: I see him, I'm gonna hug him, but I haven't
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: talked to him in years.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: You ever, ever, you ever told someone this? You ever
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: told someone of this? Hey, you know what, before you
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: became really famous, we used to be really close and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: now we're not. You ever said that?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: You ever? Okay, I have so so before when they're
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: famous or you're famous. I'm Joe. I've been famous a
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: long time, long time, long time.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, long time, long time.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: But I've Actually my problem is, if it's a problem,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: is when I like somebody, I really like them, that's
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: in with them, Yeah, and then you don't ever hear
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: from them. But if you text them, they fire right back.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: And after a while, I'm going, why am I the
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: one starting this relationship? Why am I I take it personal?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: Do you really?
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I do? Okay, yeah, I do. I'm sensitive about
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. I mean, if you say, if we
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: swap numbers today before I leave, and I don't, and
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to text you and say, hey, man, how's
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: it going, how's a wife? How's the deer, how's the
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: elk hunting? How you doing fine? And we get along great.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: And then two or three months ago, I han't heard
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: from Joe. Hey, Joe, how you doing? Man's good? See?
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, how you doing? Oh?
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: So you get upset of you're the one always initiated.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: I don't want always initiated. I want someone else to
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: feel the same way towards me. And that's insecurity. I know.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: I just finished this book. And the whole thing is
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: I'm always looking for people to like me is much
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: as I like them, and that's not always the case.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: Well, you're a very friendly guy, I am. Yeah.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: I wish I weren't. Why, I don't mean I like
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: being friends. Let me tell you a funny story. You
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: own a funny story, all right, here's the funny story.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: So when you get diagnosed with rumatward arthritis, you get
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: put on steroids. You get a balance of steroids in
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: your body to find out what holds off the paint,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: because that's you got to block the paint. And so
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: you go on a ninety day trial and error. So
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: I'm doing I do the steroids and I'm eating my ass. Hey, hey,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: you get boy, I'm eating everything. I can't sleep and
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: I'm eating. I'm doing a good job eating and I'm
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: working out twice a day. Are you kidding me? And
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: I blow up? Man, I put on like sixty pounds huge.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Go to Whitie. My wife and I are in Kmart.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: Nice Kmart's closed down, but it's really nice k Mart.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: So we're in there and we're getting stuff for the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: house and stuff and we get We're going down the
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: aisles and people looking, Hey, Terry, how you doing? You know,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: I'm doing good. You know, I'm a little puffy right now.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: I'm on steroids. I put on quite a bit of
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: way that you probably can see. And you know, I'm
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: a little embarrassed, but it's gonna get it balanced out.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry to hear about that. Hey, Terry, how
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: you doing well? You know I'm a little puffy right now.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: I'm taking you know, I'm on sterroids. They got room
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: toward our thriwers. You have to take steroids and gets
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: balanced to pay. And I do this without even thinking
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: about it, Joe three or four times in k Mart.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: So we walk out, get in the car. My wife,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: My wife, who loves me to death, says, honey, honey, honey, listen,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: when people say how you doing, Terry, they don't they
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear about stair run. They don't care.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: They recognize you, and they're just happy to meet. They
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: don't care that you, you know whatever, I am I
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: really am I really doing that? She said, yes, baby,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: you're doing that to everybody around. I was so embarrassed. Joe.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, oh my god, I can't believe it.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: Across the highway and we go where brand new Target, Massive, Target,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: awesome Target. You know, yeah, now you don't shop at
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: these places, but I do.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: I shop at Target, do you Yeah?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: I love I love Target. You go to Walmart. I've
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: been to Walmart. I love Ben. It's been a couple
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: of years. Well, I live in say Joe, Texas and
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Walmart and we get dressed up and put a suit
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: on when we go to Walmart. It's nice anyway. Then
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: we go to Target, and I got my wife's daughter
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: and told me. So we go to the Target, where
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: I'm pushing the buggy and we're going down the aisle. Hey, Terry,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: how you doing? How am I doing? I said, Man,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna believe this, but I got rumba toward Arthur.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: And I've been taking steroids and I'm really put on
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of weight and really puffy. Now I stand up, Joe,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: no kidding. And I leaned down and I pulled my
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: my pants leg up where my soak is, and I
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: pushed my sock down. And you can see that giant
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: indention from all the fluid that you're holding. And when
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: I put my hand down and I see that, I
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: start laughing. I can't help myself. I just start laughing.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: You big idiots. I don't give a shit if you
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: can cut rum and art starting. I was so embarrassed,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: but I just couldn't help myself. I just started laughing.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: Caught me, caught me.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: Well, you're just a genuine guy. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. No,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not apologizing, but sometimes you just want reciprocation.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: I do have it with I understand what you're saying.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: But it's way better to be super friendly than to
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: the opposite.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Is your wife's super friendly she's friendly. Yeah, she's friendly. Yeah.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Is she friendly as you?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's pretty friendly.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Can you go anywhere in Austin and yeah, I.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: Mean you talk to a lot of people. Yeah, talk
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: to people. But most people are really nice.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: Problem.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: Most people just happy to see and say, hey, you
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: shake your hand, yeah, give you some knuckles.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You take selfie? Yeah yeah, take a selfie.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I like selfies. I don't think what the problem is.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: There's no problem, there's nothing with that. You're just a
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: friendly guy. Yeah and that but that Dunbar's number is
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: what's going on? Like that's why you can't remember people.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: That's really all it is. I mean you think about
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: your Terry Bradshaw. How many people have you met in
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: your life? You probably met a million people, like literally
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: a million.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: But if you were, if you were in bad shape
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: right now, you've got people you'd call. You got a
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: handful you get called, Oh yeah for sure, Yeah I
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: really care about you.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah okay, yeah, But that's how everybody is. Like a handful,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: have a handful that you really care and.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: You know what to take care and nurture your friendships
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: that are really close. Takes effort, it does, and if
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: you fifteen or twenty. You don't have any time. Man,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: you wear yourself out. I think we all we start
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: here and we yes.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well there's also some people that disappoint you along
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: the way, unfortunately.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Man, love, are you kidding?
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: That is Have you ever have you ever just thrown
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: all your trust and love and to your your buddy
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: and then that sucker fifteen or six whatever and.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: Just boom some of them. Yeah, you go, whoa, It's
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: been a long time since I've had that happen.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: But there and then, and then I'm the first one
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: to say, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: mean that. I'm sorry. And then they don't take your
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: apologies and they bring it up again. I'm sorry, Look,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: I told you I'm sorry. I know. Then they do
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: it again. Look yeah, I said I'm sorry, and then
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: hang up. That's it.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Well, some people just don't want to be happy, and
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: they don't and they actually enjoy being in conflict because
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: conflict takes them away from thinking about all the things
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: that they need to correct in their life. So they
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: always like to be in some sort of a situation
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: where there's some sort of a dispute or someone wronged them,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: or something's disrespectful or something. It's just distractions. Most of
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: it is distractions. It's a personality that just happened yesterday.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention their name because, ok so,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: I tell this person they had a stallion of mine,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: a young two year old, and they were showing it
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: and made a great job. I brought the horse home.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: Horse wasn't horse wasn't gonna be good enough to go
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: to the World Show, which is the Super Bowl, but
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: he needed another year of growing training. I brought him home.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: Crazy about these people been with them years. I mean
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: the trainer was my first trainer ever, and that's been
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: forty something years ago. Anyway, so I'm over there. They
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: came to church. I got to come to church. I
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: was singing in church last two weeks ago, and they came.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: I asked him to come. I'm singing in church, and
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: they said, okay, great. They came to hear me sing.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: They loved our preacher, and they said, we're going to
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: come back. Well, they came back yesterday. All right, they
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: came back. Yes, we have a meet and greet during
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: the service. I got up and went, oh man, it's
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: great to see you, and not even thinking that they
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: had had this stud for so long and did a
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: great job. I said, guess who came by the house
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: the other day and saw the barn. Name for the
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: stud is Bradley, and saw Bradley fell in love with him,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: and I sent him home with him. He's going to
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: show him. Oh, Bob, it wasn't pretty. Got mad, got
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: real in church, got mad, got upset, and I just
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: called chills, went over and I went. I got to
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: thinking what did I do? What did I do? What
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: did I do? And then I got to thinking I
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: took this horse from them, and I gave it to
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: another trainer, and they got this horse looking as good
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: as you get. They got him going. Now I'm giving
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: it to a competitive trainer, and I'm telling them, hey, hey,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: he fell in love with him. I said, you're take
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: him home with you. It hurt. It hurt them, and
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: it was obvious that they were very One of them
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: was really upset with me in church, and so church
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: preachers up getting ready starting. I had to go get
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: back in my seat. And then when am I told
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: Tammy and my wife, I said, holy cow, man, I
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: just hurt their feelings. I mean they are upset with
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: me because I said this horse was some other trainer,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: And I said, God, I would have never done that.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: I would have never done that had I been thinking,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: I wanted to have said a word about that, not
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: a word. But since they had had the horse, I
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: figured that it was no big deal. Right my horse,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: I do with it what I want. Throughout the service
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: was just great, great service. That's picking up on what
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: the preacher was saying. I found myself during that service,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: you ready for this, praying that God would help me
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: go make things right with them because I couldn't stand
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that I had upset them so much. So
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: when the service was over this and they were going,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: I went and grabbing said, I am so sorry. I
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: want to apologize. I wasn't thinking I made a huge mistake.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: You're my dear friends. I just don't, you know, And
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like I made it right. But I had
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: to go and make that right because it just but
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: that's playing Terry. That means you're a good guy. That's great.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, you're a great guy. That's a
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: great thing to do because you care. If you didn't care,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: if you were like I screw them on my service.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: That's because that's because you're.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: A good guy.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: That's because you're a good guy. I really believe that
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: you wanted them to feel better, and you know, and
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: I bet you did make it right.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: And I didn't do it of course, of course.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: Well sometimes people don't think you know that. I mean
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: some people you want.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: To say, Hey, I went to a guy and told
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: him one hundred thousand times how sorry I was, and
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: I want you to know he was my best friend
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: at the time and we have not spoken since. That's
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: now some people that's not kind. That's not on me.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: No, that's on him.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: That's on him.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: Some people are not charitable and they don't want to
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: forgive people. They like to be wronged. There's there's people
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: that like to be in conflict with people, and generally
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: those people their life is a mess. That's generally not
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: a balanced person.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: This guy's life not a mess. But I just so look, look,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: it's how you say something here today and it really
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: upsets me. You're probably going to know it now that
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: we've been getting your pro hat are you okay with this?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you you know what, No,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not okay with.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: That, well, then well I would apologize.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: My point is, if you piss me off, I would
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: I think if you apologize that accepted.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Immediately, You've already said I'm a good guy. I'm not
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: going to do that.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, people don't mean to hurt people's feelings for
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: the most part.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: Some do, some do, but those.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: People you generally know that that's that kind of person
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: in the first place, and you probably wouldn't be hanging
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: out with them. No, But when when you're close to someone,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: you love someone, you gotta have some forgiveness. You got
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: to realize that people are human and friends.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: For as long as I have been with this one person,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: I have another.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: What was the issue?
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: Issue? Was I made fun of him on the golf course.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: He's that's it. Yeah, I make fun of everybody on
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: the golf course. You know why, because I'm I suck.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: I'm bad, Joe, I'm bad now. I love to play
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: and I love to play with my friends and have
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: a simple little five dollar bet and it's not much,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: but I love that saying, oh nice shot, you know
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: it's fun me me. I know, I'm an asshole, right,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: you know? You know the bad side of you, right,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: you know that your bad I know mine? I know mine. Yeah,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: my wife calls it Roy. Different guys it what is
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: that movie? Primal Fears? You need to look adm at
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: and you go had me fooled? You go? Holy? So
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: I took him the name Roy. So when when I'm
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: going into.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: A dog's character, Yeah, Roy, Yeah, I think it was Roy.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: Oh that turn at the end, have you fool? Oh?
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: I'm long like what I know at the end of
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: that movie.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, whoa, that's that's another very smart guy.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: Edward Norton. I had him in on the Potatum.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: Very interesting guy.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I find actors in general very well. The really
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: good ones there they are Cooper, I love McConaughey. I've
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: done a movie. I love.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: Great guy too.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: Who else to do it? George also very smart? Yeah,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: very smart. George Foreman. We did a show together called
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: Better Late Than Never. Never got to know him in
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: two years. Never got to know him in two years.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Really never got to know him in two years. I
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: totally didn't associate with any of us. We have lunch,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: he'd sit over here with his son, had dinner, sit
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: over here with his son. It could be I would
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: only guess that he's shy. He didn't like the fact
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: that we drank. He didn't like the language that was used.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: Because he's a preacher now, I asked him one time, said, George,
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: how big is your congregation? He said one hundred and twenty.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: I said, really, how long you've been doing this? I
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: think he said something maybe twenty years or something. I said,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: because I've been taught as a Baptist, said as a preacher,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: your congregation grows, right, right, your congregation grows. And I
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: said how many? One hundred and twenty. I said, oh, wow,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: it's small. I said, you building, you're growing. He said, no,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: hundred twenties enough, And I went one hundred and twenties enough.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: I said, So, George, when do you start preparing your sermon?
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Do you start on Tuesday like most preachers? No, oh
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: you don't. So when do you start preparing for your
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: sermons Wednesday?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: So when do you start preparing for your sermon? He says,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: when I stand up to preach, God tells me what
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: Wow, okay, you're.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Going to argue with George Foreman, I'm not for that.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Looked like all right, brother, Yeah, arguing, but yeah, he was.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get to know him. He was friendly,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: but he was just it was blocked.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well he's also another guy that's been famous.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: For a long time time.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: He's probably figured out how to block people out. And
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: also he went through that dark period when he quit
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: fighting for ten years, and you know, the losing to Ali.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: I mean that was very hard on him. You know,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: he knew better when he lost the thrill in Manila,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: he knew better.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: It was rumbling the jungle. Yeah, okay, well yeah that
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: was both rhyme, right, They definitely right, that was Don
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: King right.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh well yeah, he knew a promoter fact, he
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: knew better. He told me that the hit that I
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: took was nothing, but he said I was so tired. Yeah,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: and he and I went, you're a kid, and he
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: said yeah, he said, they hit. The hit was nothing, nothing,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: but he went down. He just think, got him down
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: there and get some hair and get some bread.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: But he was definitely exhausted.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: That was but he knew, he knew what was going on,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: but he thought with his power, he'd break a rib
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: You know, Well, he had so much power. I mean
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: when he thought Joe Frasier. He lifted him off his
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: feet with a punch. I mean, he was extraordinarily powerful.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: He hit so hard. Yeah, George, how can you be
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: that quick?
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: I mean that big?
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's just depressive. Yeah, oh, he was very impressive.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: I mean that Ali fight was so crazy. That was
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: another fight where Ali was expected to lose, just like
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: the Sunny Listing fight.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: And it was such an upset that Hunter Thompson flew
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: to Africa to cover it and didn't go to the fight.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: He wound up just drinking and floating around at his
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: pool and blew off the fight because he didn't want
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: to watch Ali get knocked out. Really, because Ali was
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: his hero and he messed it up because he was
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: supposed to be a journalist for Rolling Stone at the time,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: so they flew him over there to cover that fight.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: You stew out your intelligence on me, throwing me a
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: curveball because I'm going Hunter. Okay, Yeah, who's Hunter? No? Idea?
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Who that guy?
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: You don't know Thompson?
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: Would him?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: You don't? You never heard of him? The gonzo journalist, Thompson,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: very famous.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Journalist the Angus Weekly.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: No, No, he's the guy from Fear Loathing in Las Vegas.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: Do you know that you never heard of that book?
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: No, the movie that Johnny Depp did Fear Loathing in
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: Las Vegas, where he played Hunter Thompson. He did write
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: that about horses. The Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: That's one of his best works. Really, it's a fantastic
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: Thompson was.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: I first got into the cattle business. My wife ex wife,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: and I went to a big cattle sale. So that's
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: to your point about me saying I don't know who
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: he is now, I just played it off, all right.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to embarrass myself. But then I got
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: to think of I don't know who this guy is.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: Now you answered who he was, but I didn't care. Yeah,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: I get it. So I go to this cattle sale,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: this hawks in heer and I this auksener is out
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: there and he wants to meet me, Terry Bradshaw. So
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: I got my ex wife, the auctioneer, and a couple
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: of his ring stewarts, you know, and we're sitting there talking.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: So I asked a simple question, So tell me, mister
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: auks here, what do you make the most money on
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: in auctioning off stuff. He terry, we were really hitting
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: a home run right now with limousines. Limousines. To see
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: my brain, I'm at a cow auction and he's a
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: cow auctioneer. He's not supposed to sell cars. Cars, and
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: you think cars limousines.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: That's what I would have thought.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I was. I was about to
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: say to him, Oh my god, you mean to tell
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: me you sell cars? And my ex ex wife goes,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: you mean to tell me that you sell cars?
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 11: And you go, oh sweetie, And I'm like, the boy
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 11: want a dumb ass, and he goes, no, honey, limousine
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 11: is a breed of cattle.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: Limousine right there. You know what I like about the
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: show when you just think you're throwing everybody a curb, Bolly,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: throw it up on the screen. Jamie, you're a man.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: He's the best when he's sober, he is numb.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: Better when he's sober. When you see HI when he's drunk, Oh.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: My god, even better. But anyway, I thought, you know,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: I got I should write a book about some of
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: these stuff. But you should? I should? Why not? I
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: don't know? Think I got enough time?
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a documentary. Maybe just sit down with someone
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: to have them tell all these stories.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're thinking nobody care about these stories.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Surely would absolutely edit him up, do a good job
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: with the editing.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: Start a podcast, Yeah.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: No, Terry bredshawk'sperience.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: No, you know you know what, Joe listen, you started
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: us fifteen years.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: Ago or something like that.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have anything idea it would be like this?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: No, So why do I want to do something like
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: this when there's a million podcasts going on?
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: Well, you would only do it if you like doing it.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: I would not like doing it. Well, then don't do it.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: I don't want to.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: I got enough. I got enough on my plate right now.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: Don't do it unless it seems interesting.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: And besides that, who's going to come on my show?
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: A lot of people would show I came on your
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: show when you had a TV.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: Show, did you? Yeah? What show was that?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: You had a TV show?
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I was on it. I was a guest
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: when I had the Fox show.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: That whatever that talk show thing you did.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: Was get out. Yeah, you were one of my star guests.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: I was a guest when I was on news radio.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: That was a sitcom.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: Oh well, I believe it was news radio. It was
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: a long time ago. I remember, No you don't.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, Joe, Yeah you were great. By the way.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: We talked about limousine cattle. Oh yeah, yeah, Hotter Thompson.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Drink a drinking coffee Now.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: It was a smart Yeah.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a fun show. I know, I don't remember.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: You could do something like that if you wanted to.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could do anything if you wanted to,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: but you definitely would get guests if you ever wanted
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: to do a podcast.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: I did a radio show once.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: How was that?
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: It was good? It's good, but it's just hard to
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: get people.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: Really. Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. Well where
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: are you doing it out of l A?
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: Oh? So many people in l A. I was that
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: hard when I had my daytime show in l I
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: couldn't get in body. Really. I got Whoopy Goldberg one time.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: But you're laughing? Fun? Was she fun? Yeah? She was
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: the black Yeah. She was the biggest thing we.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: Ever had on the view.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know those get together and I watched that show.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ladies go outside.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: Whoopee that you who? I really I had Charlton Heston.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: Oh now you're talking. How was he fabulous?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: I couldn't the show could God, could have done three hours.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: I was just fascinated and he was so nice. You know,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: is there anything worse? Joe the and thinking you And
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: that's my understanding. You won't bring people on here that
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: you don't feel comfortable with him.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not interested in.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm very honored to be here today. But can
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: you imagine can you imagine? Can you imagine having people
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: on that are just jerks, yeah, and are interviewing them
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: and it's like, oh God, where can I go here
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: to get something out of this interview? You know, it's
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: just god, Uh, it's just but yeah, but Charlton Heston.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: I had Garth Brooks, which was fabulous. I gave him
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: the whole I gave Charlton Heston to a whole hour
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: just me and him. It was it's all kind of
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: like this. He was amazing. Yeah.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: He was like one of the first big actors that
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: was like publicly conservative.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: He did the NRA. They caught hell for that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: was he the head of the NRA at one point? No, no, no, no.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: It was a part of the NRA part of it.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 3: I think he did something with.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: The yeah, but he was yeah, he was huge.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: He famously was like, you could have my gun. When
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: you pry my cold fingers from it, say.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I'm my brother has I don't have many guns.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: What do you do with all those guns? You got guns?
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: I said, Gary, he's got those those rifles that shoot
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: five thousand rounds and ten seconds in our what are
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: those things called? He's got five or six house? What
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: do you do with all those guns? You need a gun.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people like that in this country.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, they are. Yeah, and I got a
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: I got a What do I got? I got a
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: bunch of guns. But I gave him all the way
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: every everybody gives me guns. I don't shoot guns.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: You don't shoot guns at all. No, no, no.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: My wife only let me put a gun by the bed.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: I've been I've been burglarized six times.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: Have you really, Yeah, where do you gotta.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: Shot at with a shotgun? This is how I can
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: tell you that. When it's you get shot out with
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: a shotgun, flames come out of the gun, flames, and
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: I'm running. I'm running in the backyard, jump to get
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: in my car, and this guy goes around the backside
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: boom and where waves every and babies. And I get
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: in the in the old gt O nineteen seventy gt
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: O yellow and black top. Yeah boy, this is nice.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: And I got in. But I'm used to pushing the
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: button or pull in reverse. You go down right right,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: pull it down, I turn around, I hit the brake,
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: I go forward righting through the wall. Realized you gotta
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: go one click. Uh. Yeah. It was not good, not good,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: But my wife won't let me keep anything. So where
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: where did you get? Burglaria six times, Rusting rust and
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Louisiana Ransfield, Louisiana on my ranchers? Yeah, on your ranches. Yeah.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: So they came out of the ranch. Ye how big
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: was the ramp uh acres at the time. They do
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: some driving to get to the house and.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: They had to go through the gate. The gate, the
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: gate I locked, So how did they get in? And
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: you ever, let me tell you something. You are laying
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: in bed at night and it's one am in the morning,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: and you feel the presence of somebody else in your house,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: all right, and a flashlight is going over your head
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: and going through the wall. Like this. I can't even
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: begin to tell you. You can't breathe, and you don't,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm laying down like this and I'm flatting myself.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: And back in those days, you're too young to know this. Remember, well,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: the princess phone. You know what the princess phone is.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: Prince's phone.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: You know everything we've been talking about today. You've been
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: throwing all kinds of ship up here, and you don't
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: know what a prince's phone. Do you know what you said?
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 3: Are you saying Prince princis princess princess phone.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: It's a phone. It was one of the first push
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: button phones. You didn't have to Okay, it's the princess.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: So I took my look at you, it doesn't that's
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: a princess phone.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you so much. Did you know
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: what that is? Jamie? No? I look, look, I'm look, Joe.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: I'm laying in bed. I take my left hand and
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: I slide it over to my princess phone. I take
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: this receiver off, and I take my fingers and I
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: go across the dolls and a doll and my uncle,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: who lives two hundred yards away.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: I get the phone pull up to the microphone.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: So people here, I pull I pull up, I pull
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: the phone up. I'm laying back trying so you can't
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: see me or anything. And I said, Bobby, I got
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: a burgler. He's at my He's at my bedroom window.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: He says, all right, I'm on my way. So I
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: take the phone down. He is, and you can see
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: that guy. Here's my here's my uncle coming. And this
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: guy takes off and he chases him down through the
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: pasture and he loses him out the of it. I
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: had another guy go through my house, tearing up my
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: kid same place, no different place, wow, in college, tearing
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: up my tearing up my dishes and my kitchen. He
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: was looking through the dishes, he making noise. The only
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: thing I could figure was the guy who's trying to
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: run me off. I was living in a Methodist parsonage
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: out on the edge of town. Come to find out,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: this guy was living in the attic over the office.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: So the cops found all kinds of paraphernalia, beer up
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: in the office. So the only thing I could figure
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: sean right, but he ran me off there. I don't
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: know what he was to find out, but you you've
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: come home. I've come home twice. It had guys running
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: out of my house taking off same house. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: six six of these I had, geez, there have been
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: shot at.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 3: So you were running away from these guys. His name again,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: I forgot Jamie. Jamie one more time. Son, I'm gonna
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: ask you what your name is? Okay, all right, one
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: more I told you three times?
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: Right, all right? I got you down now.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: So the same place. Why'd you keep getting broken into
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: this one place?
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not in the middle of nowhere. I'm Terry Bradshaw.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: They want to come in, and another guy came down.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: He stole a He stole all my stuff out of
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: my garage, all the all the the chainsaw, he got
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: all the kind of tools and stuff that he could
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: go and sell. Just wipe me out.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 3: No security, no, no security system, nothing.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: No. I got dogs now and now I have had
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: since Tammy and I twenty two years now, and I
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: got a guard dog. But I won't I will not
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: leave my wife at home. My wife, my wife and
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: I twenty two years have been a part two days.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: I will not leave without my wife.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: What kind of guard dogs you get?
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: German shepherd? I got him from Wayne Somanovitch in South Carolina.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: You got a train.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: I got a badass though his name is Legend. Then
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: I bought him. I got a female this year. Her
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: name is h were named after the Viking character Freya
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: Frey the Queen. So I'm gonna breathe those because I'm
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: tired of spending twenty thousand. I'm gonna raise my guard dog. Nice, nice,
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: And you know what's great about him? They're guard dogs.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: You don't play with them, right, you don't play with it.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: You don't rough them, you don't grab them, you don't
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: tackle them. They don't mess around, right, they don't mess around.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: They're serious.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're serious.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very yeah, exactly. You got a dogs?
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you got? I have a Golden Retriever.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: I love them.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: They're great. But he ain't garden ship.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: No, I know you probably. Hey, I'm calling in. There's
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: ice cream up things. We'll share it.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: He'll let everybody in.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: I've got eight docss.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: I have another dog that's a King Charles Cavalier. Those
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 3: are the little tiny dogs. Oh my god, he's so adorable.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: He jumps in the pool and he he's just started.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 3: He's a year old and he started swimming over the
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: last couple of months, and he gets so excited that
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: he whinds like you think he's in pain or something.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: He's talk he's talking. He's talking to you. Yeah, and
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: he just can't wait to jump in the water. Really. Oh,
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: he loves it to my dogs and talk constantly.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: Oh really.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, And this morning I'm a little tired today because
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: for some reason, these two, these two they sleep with
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: me every night. Their names are Sadie Lynne and Baby Girl,
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: one of the black miniature dogs. In the other one,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: there's a Australian shepherd looking black and tan, you know, spotty,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: and oh they are precious. The Baby Girl likes to
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: get on my chair when she's got to go outside.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: She gets on my chest. Put your chair right under
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: my mouth, and I'll wake up and I know exactly what.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: And I've sit there and I go, what time is it.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: I'll go over and I'll get the TV control and
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: I'll shake it so the light'll come on. Oh my god,
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: it's eleven o'clock. You gotta be kidding me. So I'll
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: take them outside and they'll go party. That's just good.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: Once normally a lot of times never, but once Max
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: last night, three times three? Oh yeah one? Oh what
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: you gotta pee again? You gotta be kidding me. Oh
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: so I slider to the right down off the bed.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: These two come, we go outside. I'm so sleepy. I
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: sit on the steps and put my head against the
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: porch pole and I'm like this. Their heads are in
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: the doorway and they're looking at me, like, what are
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: we doing? I'm like, you gotta pee? Right? No, no,
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: not really, So I go back at three point thirty.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: Here I go again, And then they went to the bathroom.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: But this is you know.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: So sometimes they just want to wake up.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: They just yeah, I mean luck. I'm a dog lover. Okay,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: me too. I got not ten ten dogs, now, are
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: you really?
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got also ten dogs and two serious
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 3: guard dogs.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: Two badass dogs.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: So those the ones are dog is bad ass, the
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: other one is going to be badass. Yeah, you know
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: when you live where I live? Out where I live,
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know where you live. But what are you doing?
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: This is ultra It's a nootropic.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: Do you know what that is?
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: Essentially brain vitamins. But come you don't swallow it because
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: it's a pouch like a nicotine pouch, the same kind of.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: Thing, like you gotta smoke an addiction. Yeah, but if
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: you's got a nicotine addictions, that's what you're saying. What
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: is it you said?
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: Nickte nootropics new trope?
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: Is that one of those things that it's right now?
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 3: It's like brain vitamins? Is it like I've remac this. No,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 3: it's like nutrients, brain nutrients.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it sucks.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have listen. We're not friends anymore. Yes, I'm upset.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 3: It's not hilarious though, that you could make fun of
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: a guy playing golf and he doesn't want to be
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: your friend forever.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 2: Because of that, I was shocked.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got off and I had another friend you
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: got off light Yeah, another friend sensitive.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: Another friend I spent four days a week with because I,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: like I said, I'm playing golf and didn't have a job.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: We hung out, his wife and I went to dinner
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: all the time, cooked out all the time. And then
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: one one day I thought, hey, we just recently passed away.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: So hey, man, I got us a tea time from
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: more at one thirty. Dad call me back nothing, hey nothing?
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: Two days, three days, four days, five days, a week,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: two weeks, a month, nothing, nothing, nothing, never heard of
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: never heard from him again. What happened? His wife didn't
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: like me? Whoa, that's what I found out. His wife
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: didn't like you. Yeah, what's not the like I'm a
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: nice guy.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand that at all.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: Now. I think she's just jealous of our relationship.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's those kind of relationships. Guys and gals will
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: do that. Will they separate you from your friends. That's
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: a real fucking problem. Well that's a giant red flag
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: right there. That's not good. A person that doesn't want
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: you having good friends. That's crazy. Yeah, I know, it's
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: that's crazy.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm the luckiest guy in the world because
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: I work for a network with four sometimes five guys.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: And if you can put five big egos together and
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: they have everybody love and care about one another, I'm
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: gonna tell you that's special.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: Special.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: That Fox show is so special. It is you've seen
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: this show, I assume, and we're just like it's like
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: a locker room.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: Well, that's where we have to be so much fun,
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: and that's what people like watching.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: I think. So think you're right.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people want to watch people that actually are friends.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we have giant fun. We had this one.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you you learn where you can go with
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: your friends. Yeah, all right, you know you learn don't
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: go here, don't go there, which is fine. You want
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: you want to make sure that because we're on live television,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: so you want to don't everyone to embarrass anybody on
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: live television. So you learn where to go, and you
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: build that trust, and then that trust. Because you have
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: the trust, you become you bond, you become Hey, how
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: you doing? Hey?
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: I was this week? How's your doing? It's great? Hey?
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: How's your wife? Great? I mean it's just you just
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: get everybody, hugs everybody, Hey, how was your week? I
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: mean it's I can't even get the day that that
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: show is over for me, and I hope I die
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: on set, which is I've always said, but I could
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: just die on set. Think about it, Joe, think about it,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: if I die on set, seriously, if I could just
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: get a couple of words out before I go, I
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: don't want to just I really do think Dallas is
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: going to win the super Bowl if I could just
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: get something out, yeah, you know, forever immortal, right? Great? Yeah,
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: So I said that that's what and that's the way
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: I feel. I assume that's the way you do this show.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: You can't wait to do that, you should. This is
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: awesome to get down and sit down with people from
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: different walks of life. Basically, yeah, politicians don't agree with you,
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: religious people, whatever, and you just sit there and you
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: build this. You know, you get to know these people.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: You asked all these questions, or in my case, I'm
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just jumping around here, said well, he hadn't asked
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: me about this. I like Simon, Jamie Jamie, I told you, Samy,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 2: just that's it.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 3: No, I got no Young Jamie Young like van Halen.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: Jamie's crying, Oh oh, Jamie's remember that song. Look I
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: got it here, Jamie, Jamie Young Jamie, Jamie, you married,
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 3: I had a boy, free man, free ladies.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: How old are you, Jamie? What are you saying? Hold
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: it up? What's that? What's holding up? Old enough to know? So?
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: How old are you? Jamie? M m okay, got a girl,
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: all right? Now?
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, he's free right now, ladies. Young Jamie's on the prow.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: Jamie, you owned the prow, all right? Where's your There's
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of good looking women in Austin, Texas.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 3: James Is, it's a good, good place.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: You need some help for you.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 8: Let's go out tonight.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: I guess we need to move on. Yeah, anyway, I'm
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: so in talking about that show.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 3: Just well, having a show like that a bunch of
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: people are really actually friends is so huge for the viewer.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: It is you want to listen? Do you want to
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: turn on the show like a pregame? Come on pre
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: game shows. I watch them. I go, oh God, especially
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: if it's done this, shut up right, shut up, announce
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: its God doing the game?
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: Shut up right? Or when they're just sports guys that
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 3: really aren't actually passionate about football and you hear them talking,
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: You're like, you.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: Know what they're talking about? What is that? They get
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: it all right here? Yeah, and let me tell you something.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: I hate stats. I hate them.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 3: They're okay occasionally.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: The real point. But if all you got is on
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: the third quarter the wind, if it makes a point
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: and a big but otherwise right, I remember one. Well, anyway,
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: I was talking about all the guys. I love telling
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: this story on Howie. Howie's is my best friend on
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: the show, without question. I mean, we are we are
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: so different he went to Villanova. I went to an
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: engineering school at Louisiana Tech. I got a college degree. Howie,
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry he didn't graduate. I'm sorry, Howie. Don't hate
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: me for his big ass what you've been telling about it? Hey,
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: I love it. I shouldn't have said, Joe, I didn't
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: say that anyway. So we're doing this show and we
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: had Jimmy Johnson on the show. Jimmy's great. Oh, Jimmy
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: was awesome. So Jimmy's telling this story all right, and
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: Jimmy's Jimmy tell it is a funny story, and we
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: Jimmy starts laughing. We all start laughing straight hand, we're
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: belly aching. That's funny. That's funny. Jimmy. Michael Strahan's next director.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: We got it all worked out. It goes Jimmy, Michael Terry, Howie,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: Jimmy high yeah, Howie. So Michael Strahan he adds to
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: that story and it's even funnier. Whoa, Oh my god,
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: stop stop right now. Oh now, it's my turn. Now,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: I've gotta, I gotta, I gotta. You're a comedian, you
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: know you gotta you gotta match it at least right,
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: or do it one better. I'm adding to Michael said,
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: to what Jimmy said, and we're rolling. Oh god stop,
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: Oh this is fun. This is killing me. Oh how
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: he's turned? How he looks at the camera. The outside
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: linebacker for Seattle, Bucky buck Halter, sprang to his ankle
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: in pregame warm up and he won't be starting today
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. Uh, jasper h Julian will be in
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: his place out of Kansas State. What and I And
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: we go to commercial break and I'm like three, ha
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: ha ha one. So I'm looking at Howie and I'm
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 2: staring at how I'm just like this. He's turned. He
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: feels me. He turns around and says, what I said,
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: you can't help it? Can you help what? You know
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about? No, I don't what are you
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: talking about? And I said, you're boring. I wouldn't have
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: said it if I didn't know I could get away
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: with it. And for the rest of the show he
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: was hilarious because he said, well, you know, being boring me,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: he say, And it was funny, but yeah, it was.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: You can't do that unless there's true us right right
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: and straight hand. We made frin the first day straighthn
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: was on the show. We gave him half a cake.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 2: He said, why am I getting half a cake? Well,
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: you just got divorced.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 3: You lost the other hand, so that's hilarious. Well, if
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 3: you can't joke around with people, that's no fun. No,
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: that's not a good relationship.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: Well you better know, you better know who you're joking
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: around with.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 3: But it's like you can't if you can't joke around
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 3: with someone, like, what's the point?
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: That's what people do.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 3: I've been part of fun in life. You should be
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: able to take a joke. You're able to give a joke.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: She's able to have fun with it.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: You just got to know when. You just got to
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: know when sure. I mean friends know when sure. I
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: mean you know. I talked to Howie all the time,
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: all the time. And his son Kyle just got signed
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: with CBS for their Today's show, which is, oh, that's awesome, great,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: great for him, and he's good. How We did movies
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: for a while, right, how he was voted the up
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: and coming star and he had these three young kids
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: and he says, I don't want to raise my kids
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: in LA. Where's the best place I can raise my
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: kid is? And they found the school system Charlottesville, Virginia.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: He moved to Virginia, took his kid there and quick good, yeah,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: I'm having your priorities together.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 3: I remember reading something about him talking about it like
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: his experience with movies, like he didn't like it. Well,
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 3: he didn't like Hollywood, he didn't like the whole thing, and.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: He he could have been.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: Did someone hit on him too?
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: Hit on him? I think some guys hit on him.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: A guy hit on Yeah, is that he find out
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: that's true? I don't know if i'd find that out. Yeah.
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe, don't look that up, forget it. Don't look that up.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 2: But the point simon Jamie, Jamie.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 11: Bro't think Jamie, don't look that up, because yeah.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: I don't look it up. I think I might have
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: made that up or somebody might have thought it might
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: not be true. But the point is, like he could
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: have been.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: He did a bunch of big movies, yes, and he
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: was on his way to being a big action He
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 3: was action star. Yeah sure, I mean, of course, a giant, handsome,
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: good looking, Yeah great, perfect for.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: An action start.
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 3: And then just I like it when a guy realizes
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: like this is you know, like you.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: Were raised on kids in it.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like you don't want you know, it's what
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: you think that life is. It's not.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: Listen, it's also like sixteen hours movies and you've done
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many. And look, I don't want
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: to sit around, yeah all day long and go in
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: and deliver one line exactly. And here's the other thing.
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not ever going to be a leading man. I'm
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: always going to be Terry Bradshaw right right, And that
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: just sucks. Seriously. You always want to be Jail Rogan. No, no, no,
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: you would like to be given him opportunity to really act.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: Well, if I actually wanted to act yet, well yeah,
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 3: but I mean some people they just don't like to
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: do it. And I think with I think with Howie
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 3: it was probably one of those things where they probably
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 3: offered him a bunch of money. It looks good on paper,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: and then you start actually doing it and you realize,
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: like you got to be away for five months filming there.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: He was away all year one year doing the Firestorm,
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: and he was filming in Vancouver. He was flying in
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: on Saturday from Vancouver and leaving on a red eye
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: to Vancouver and filming all week. And I think breaks
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 2: you down three little kids.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it breaks you down. It's not good for you.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 3: I don't like it.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel good. And I plowed him for that.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 2: And he's not only is he a great husband, great dad,
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: he's a great grandfather. I'm a terrible grandfather. You got grandkids,
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: no white, terrible And I just I'm gone all the time.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: And uh, it's kind of like getting that job.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 3: I gotta have a job. I gotta go if you
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 3: have to travel. You were saying that you give corporate speeches,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: like what do you do like the what are those about?
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 2: Species? Like what what do you speak about? Well, I'm
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: talking to a bank Wednesday morning, so I'm preparing a
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: bank speech.
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: And then what do you say to like, what do
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 3: you say to a bank a bunch of bankers?
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: I know what, I know. It's about leadership. I know. Yeah,
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 2: some of it's about leadership. It's about it's it's basically
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: all the things that I know Joe have to do
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: with ambition, dreams, drive, goals, failure, overcoming failure, how to
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: deal with failure, how to rise, how to deal with success,
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: how to treat people. So it's a little bit of motivational,
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit of psychology like you used early with me,
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: use psychology with you know, you know when you did it,
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 2: you know, right, hey, Bernie, Bernie, he knows, and so
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: so it's different. Yeah.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 3: So it's like kind of like a team building thing
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 3: to get together and you know what they want. Interesting,
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 3: when did you start doing that?
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: I've been doing it forty three years?
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 2: Wow, I know it's amazing. That's crazy, And how did
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 2: you get into that?
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 3: I gave a.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: Speech in DestinE, Florida, for Fredo Lay and it was
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: taped and they paid me five thousand dollars and I
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: was doing speeches for twelve hundred, eight hundred and fifty
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: dollars and they offered me five thousand ducks five thousand bucks?
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I go down there it's and
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: it's for Fredolay. So I build this speech up and
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: da da da da da, and they go give this
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: speech and the speech is really good, and they taped
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: it and they sent me a v HS copy and
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 2: my then wife put it on one day and thought,
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: oh my god, this is really good and it's funny.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: And so she found out where where the bureaus were,
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: who booked speakers. There were ten really good ones, and
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: she sent this tape and a bio to ten different
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: speaking associations. All right, we got that through friend Tarkanen's
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: company in Atlanta, Georgia. They're the ones that turned us
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: onto it. So I come in, she says, I sent
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: this off. I'm getting calls now for speeches. What she said, Yeah,
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: she says, we got you want to do this, you
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: want to do that, and all of them are for
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: five thousand, five thousand. Are you shitting me? Five? I'm
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: getting five grand. Five. I'm like, oh my god, five grand. Really,
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like amazing. So I started doing these speeches for
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: all these different bureaus for five grand. Wow. So I
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: go to Hawaii on vacation and I'm int a y
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: and a company called Washington Speakers Bureau WSB. They speak nothing.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: They booked political speakers, and they had Joe thisman and
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: Jim Valvano and maybe Lou Holtz. That's the three guys
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 2: they had. So they call it the Rainy Day File.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: And they got a big box where they get all
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: the you know, people send them to them all the time. Hey, Joe,
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: you wen'll come on the show. Okay, put it over there,
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 2: put it and eventually you go through it. Oh, we
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: all have them on, right, That's kind of it went.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: So one day they're looking at these tapes and they're going, no,
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: no spitting, spitting it. Then you get that came across
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw. Hey, hey, I hear this guy's pretty good. Really,
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: we put it on, they put it on it. We
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 2: want to sign him. So I'm in Hawaii. I got
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 2: a phone call in the morning. Hello, it's Bernie Swain
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: with Washington Speaker Spiru. I'm here with Harry Rhodes. We
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: just looked at your tape. We think you've got great possibilities.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 2: We'd love to represent you exclusively. Da da da da da.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 2: Please call us back. I thought, what, so, you know,
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: it's Hawaii, it's what seven in the morning, so it's
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 2: what it's one o'clock there. Times. I call him and
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: they said, look, we think you've got great possibility and
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 2: we think he can. We can book you and book
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: you a lot. And I said, well, I'm being booked
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: by ten people right now. Why want I want to
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: go one one person? Well, we're going to guarantee you
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: fifty speeches. Is seventy five hundred dollars of speech. Excuse me?
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: Did you say seventy five hundred dollars? I'm like, holy cow.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 2: So they said, we'll fly you from Hawaii to Washington,
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 2: d C. And we'd like to sit down with you
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: and go over a proposal. So I did, They did,
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 2: and I did. We sat out, fell in love with
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 2: these guys. They were awesome. Gave me a proposal fifty speeches,
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 2: seventy five hundred Add that up. That said pretty good.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good, chunk of dough. So I signed. I'm
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 2: with them exclusive now, and they say we'll have you
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 2: at ten thousand and six months ten. You're gonna book
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: me for ten grand? Are you kidding me? That ain't?
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: That's crazy? Sure enough?
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 3: That's how you got into speeches. Yeah, So when you
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 3: do speeches, like say, like a tie like tire company
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 3: called whatever it is, do you write it out for that?
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 2: I never write it. I do not write a word.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 2: I cannot write. I write here.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 3: So how do you plan out a speech?
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: I write here?
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: You just sit around and think about what.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: You're exactly and over time what speakers do? Because I
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: asked Jay Leno this one time, why you're doing all
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: You're doing one hundred stand ups. And he says, well,
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: I'll take a theme for this year, and I do it.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: I don't change anything under the name where I'm going.
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: And so I said, oh, so I don't have to
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: change all of this every time. And I learned that
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: from Jay Leno takes the same thing and then put
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: tire company in there and build it around that. And
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: you know what else I started doing. I started reading
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: a lot psychology, salesmanship, leadership. You know. One of the
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: guys that came to hear me speak here in Austin mcgraven,
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: Admiral mcgraven. Have you had him on yet?
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 6: No?
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, the guy that gives a ten points
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: of success. Yeah, ahead of amazing fat the Osama bin Laden.
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: That's his that's his raid. The whole thing was him.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: He designed that whole raid. Amazing human being. He's right
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: here in your backyard. You haven't had him. You ought
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 2: to be ashamed of yourself, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: There's only so many days in a week you could
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 3: do shows. You know, can have everybody on?
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, man, do you do do a show every day?
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 3: Four days a week?
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, what's the day off?
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 3: Usually Friday, but it shifts, it shifts depending.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: On anyway what I got going on. But you know,
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: so I I am, I build a show according to
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. And through all my reading, and I'm
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 2: naturally I think I'm gifted enough humor wise that I
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 2: have incorporated a ton of humor. And I mixed the
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: humor and and I'm and I incorporate the audience.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: And so did you start doing all this reading just
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 3: to make your speeches better?
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get smarter. I wanted to get smarter.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be Yeah, I wanted to be a
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: little bit up on things. Yah. I took psychology and
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: marketing and all that in college. But I I thought, hey,
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: if I'm gonna make a career of this, get all
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: the gather all the knowledge you can gather. And so
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 2: that's what I did. Start. I started reading all these
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 2: self help books. And and you know what, when you
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: do read all that, you find out it's pretty basic.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 2: There is a common there's a there's a foundation, a
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 2: common den I'm area that all of them have. And
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: so I don't steal. I don't steal material, but I
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: do still I do program my speeches I'm going on
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: stage and forgot the name of the company. I did
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: that once. I did that once. I went on stage
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: in Vegas for a huge five thousand people, and I
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: went out there and I'm you know, I've got a
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 2: style about me. It's a freelance. It's hey, you know,
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: I work the crowd. I get to know him. I'm
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: having a good time, feeling good. And I haven't even
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: started my speech in the meeting plan to the guy
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: that let's give it that, give it that. Terry Bratshall, Terry,
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: but tank you, Terry, thank you so much, Terry Bradshaw.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: They escort me off ten minutes. Ten minutes, so there's
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: three that happened.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 3: Why they escort you?
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 2: He thought I didn't. He thought I did know what
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 2: I was doing. I guess, but that he did obviously
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: didn't look at my tapes, and but I was just
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: I was just having fun with the crowd before I
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I work my way. Sometimes I sometimes I'll
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: go right into it, uh huh. Sometimes I want sometimes
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: I'll hey, hey, you know, I mess with him.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just having fun.
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he out of there. Wow, oh very what
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: kind of company was that? Someone that could afford to
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: pay me and not have me give a speech. Yeah.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 3: Bad, Well, some people are burying patience and bad.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: It was bad. And I asked my wife in the
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: car going to the airport, you know when you said
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: what's wrong? And I said, what did I do something wrong?
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: She said, you did nothing wrong. This guy just doesn't
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: know your style.
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 3: So they just hired you based on name alone and
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: didn't know what they were getting.
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. I would imagine that other thing. I would
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: think name alone has a lot to do with all
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: my And if you went for Super Bowls, you know
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: press sure, you know up and down, you know how
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 2: to deal with You get in the huddle? How do
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 2: you manage a huddle? How do you do this? How
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 2: do you call plays? And I make fun of all
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 2: these guys that have placards on their forearm number four,
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 2: Look number four where I had to go second and eight? Okay,
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: look second and eight. Here with there, let's go let's
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: go there. No no, no, wait a minute, wait a
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 2: bitte No, no, I don't want to run that. Let's
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: go this. And I'm totally run the I totally ran
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: the huddle, the whole thing. What do y'all think can
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: we do that? No, we can't. What do you want
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: to do that? I ran the huddle. I was smart
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: enough as the chairman of the board in the huddle
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: to say, I don't have all the answers I thought
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: I did. We're not doing very well here. I'm going
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: to try this play. But what do y'all think? And
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 2: I got input? Oh is there anything better than input?
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: Is there anything better than the people that are doing
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: as a as a sales team? You got a sales
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: manager and sales teams come back said no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: this is not a good this isn't working. They don't
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 2: like this data, and you change it. Smart people make
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: adjustments in the middle of chaos, right competition, And that's
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 2: how that's how I ran. I ran the huddle. The
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: huddle and speaking speaking is I know where I'm going
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: want to walk on stage? And once I get on stage,
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 2: I can tell within five minutes I'm going to change
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: my direction and I can't been doing it forty something years.
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: I got, you know, eight hours of material, not to
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 2: mention all the new material I'm getting every week, so
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: I can change it. And I've got to tell you
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: your stand up comedian is there anything better than getting
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: on stage and deliver performance? And they are just laughing everything,
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: just rolling, just rolling, just rolling, And you walk off
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: and they're screaming Joe, Joe, Joe. You're like, god, man,
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: I nailed it tonight. And then you walk off or
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: going out and go hell did hear this the other day?
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: Well but didn't? And everything falls flat. And when you
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: leave and you go off stage and you're are you
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 2: not miserable? Miserable? Miserable? Sure, you don't want to be miserable. No,
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: you did everything you could to make him enjoyable. I'm
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: entertaining them. I want this to be a great experience
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: for them. And when you fail, it's devastating, devastating. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 2: so you have to pay you well, you think they.
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 3: Pay you to be it, They pay you to be entertaining.
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, po poor oh Jamie, Sorry, Jay, I'm sorry, man.
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would imagine that. It's a completely
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 3: different thing. But a lot of guy like you go
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 3: and talk to a corporation and it's got to be
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 3: very fun of them, you know, because you know you're
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 3: guys won the Super Bowl.
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, guys like my speeches. My speeches are do you
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 2: know who Joel Hosting is? I know the name preacher
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: and Joe. What did I say? Hold sting like the
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: cow Oldsting. He didn't go to church. He doesn't know
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: it's old Sting.
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah guy, he's a does the giant.
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Still, God, look at the mountain. You see the
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 2: mountain one of those good guys. It's a good guy
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: and people need that in their life. I like to
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 2: say it's it's there's another mountain out there. But if
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 2: you continue down the path you're going. And I want,
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: I want, I want my hands spanked. You know, I
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: don't need it spanked. I know it should be spank,
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: but I want him to spank. It's fine with me speaking.
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: When I go out to speak, I'm a feel good
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: I want I'm a feel good guy, you know, unless
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: they say to me, here's where we're struggling, and we
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: need you to add this to this and this.
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 3: So sometimes they'll give you a direction.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: Always they always give you a direction.
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, So they have a way purpose.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: You always know where you're going, You always know what
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: your audience is.
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it sounds like you really enjoy it.
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 2: But that's a lot about it.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 3: So is that what you're doing. When you're doing two
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dates a year, A lot of those.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: I do, yeah, a lot Tuesday Wednesday of this week.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 2: Then I'll get off. I do thirty a year, which
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 2: is plenty. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. When
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: you're getting five million of a speech. I mean you
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: got to think about it. We think buck Old booked
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 2: over there. He's like, I'll be so glad when this
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: boy's off.
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 3: He likes you, Terry, thank you very much for being here.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 3: This is a lot of fun.
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. It's great to talk to you.
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: Me too. I'm uh, thank you. Thanks Joe, been watching
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 2: you enjoy yours.
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 2: You're insightful. You do your homework.
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 3: I helped you today though you did help me a lot.
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, doing what you do it's not easy.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 3: I found out about limousine cattle. Yeah, you taught me
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 3: some things.
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: I know. I know you know how to fix a
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: pearl lap? Futeris?
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 2: Show him? Jamie rather not.
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 3: So tell everybody how they buy this whiskey? Is it everywhere?
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 3: Can you get there?
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: Aleven State? Right now? You can go, Terry Bradshaw bourbon
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: dot com. You'll find out where we are in.
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 3: Tex Terry Bradshaw Bourbon dot there it is. Look at that.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: That's not a good picture. I should have had.
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 3: Oh look at the cigars, Joe solid picture.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah cigar, that's an old man, you're fifty eight.
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look at that. You got a serious whiskey
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 3: sifter there? What are those things called sniffer?
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: Those are good. That's like you're a serious taste, you know.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: It is the thing about now people think boy's making
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: a killing off the whisky. I'm not. I may make
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: six thousand dollars this year, six but we're building that.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: We're building it. It's slow. Whiskey. Bourbon is slow, man.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 2: It has to aig.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 3: You go down?
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: Do you go down that Aislean? Yeah? Five thousand and
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: we've won all these awards all that. We beat them all, all,
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: beat them all.
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: I'm so proud of that. And the thing about the
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: juice is mine I created this year.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 3: It has to be something that you love doing. Yeah,
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 3: that's not something you know what it could be.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 2: It could be any other product. I think it's just
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: the fact that I get to go out and sell it.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: I like well, it's an age product.
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 3: It's a different like if you were selling vodka or tequila,
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 3: something you could just make real quick. Now this is
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 3: it's a different thing. Aged whiskeys are very different.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 2: Took me a year and a half to get the
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 2: blend right, the blend the juice took me a year
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 2: and a half before I agreed to it in a bottle.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 2: Then when I put it in a bottle, I wanted
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: this is old gun smoke sen it on the count.
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 2: I wanted a gun smoke bottle and this is the
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: original label and that's gunpowder gunpowder gray. And uh, the
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: super Bowl stuff is put on there by you know,
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: the bottling company, which I didn't really that wasn't part
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 2: of it. You know, Joe, you ever got to a
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 2: point in your life when you go, can I not
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: sell something that's really good without happening to be me?
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 2: It would have been like out if it had to
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: be you, Terry, can it not be just because it's good?
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: You certainly could do that. Yeah, my stud horses, I
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: have the best stud horses in America, you know best,
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 2: and they're bringing world champions and I'm so proud of that.
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 2: And the business is good. You know, but I don't
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 2: have to sell them. They're sting there. We have offspring.
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 3: Whiskey.
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: This is this. I would want my dad to see it.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 3: But there, it is there, it is there. It is
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 2: But thank you, thank you, thank you so much. I've
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 2: been a huge fan for many years. And me and
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 2: thanks we didn't get into politics. I'm very thankful. I'm
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 2: glad to Yeah, me too, I bet you are. I
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 2: know I am enough enough enough of that in this world.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you one, all right, bye, everybody,