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Speaker 1: The Large Nerd Drunk Lighter podcast is a production of
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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerd
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Speaker 1: Drunk Lighter, the podcast that's all about the geeky things
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Speaker 1: happening in the world around us and how very excited
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Speaker 1: we are about them. I'm aerial casting and with me
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Speaker 1: as always is Jonathan Stribling. I tried to come up
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Speaker 1: with something creepy, but everything seemed to mean. I was
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Speaker 1: gonna go with candy this time, like because instead of
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Speaker 1: going with the horror thing. But then I candy corn
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strict. Let's see, the phrase that first popped into
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Speaker 1: my head was good in plenty and I was like, no, no,
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Speaker 1: that's not candy Corny. Katy corny is better than good
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Speaker 1: in plenty. I mean, I have gained a lot of
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Speaker 1: weight in the sure Daddy also not great? Right, sugar
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Speaker 1: Daddy also not great? Sweet tart? Okay, Well, now you're
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Speaker 1: making judgments about my own, like Jonathan Mike and I
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Speaker 1: got so many names. Yeah, I guess lick aid also
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Speaker 1: not great. Yeah, there's yeah. And then he turns out
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Speaker 1: those candy nicknames they're just not for me. Well, how
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Speaker 1: are you, Ariel, I'm doing great. I'm actually a little
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Speaker 1: bit hyped up on Halloween candy right now. We bought
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Speaker 1: some Nerds candy corn at Target the other day. I
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Speaker 1: think I just got sick in my head fourteen times
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Speaker 1: in a row. It's like candy corn shaped jelly beans
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Speaker 1: that are tart. They taste like Nerd jelly beans, but
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Speaker 1: they're shaped like candy corn. That's that's really everything you're
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Speaker 1: saying is filling me with horror. But you know what
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have asked instead, I should have asked this
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Speaker 1: question because I've got a question for you. All Right,
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Speaker 1: we're closing out the spooky season, which I know is
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Speaker 1: very sad news for some of our listeners some of
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Speaker 1: our friends too, because they love the spooky season so much.
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Speaker 1: So my final spooky question for you for for this
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Speaker 1: season is what's a horror movie monster or character you
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Speaker 1: would hate to encounter? Ah? And why? Probably a mummy
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Speaker 1: or zombie. And the reason why is because they always
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Speaker 1: have like bugs associated with them. And while when I
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Speaker 1: was a child I loved bugs, for some reason, that
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Speaker 1: love has turned into hate as an adult um and
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Speaker 1: they creep me out fair enough. So. Also, like there's
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Speaker 1: this really old science fiction movie about these giant praying mantis.
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Speaker 1: Is them them? Yes? Uh so I would not want
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Speaker 1: to encounter them either. Just I had a pragmatics attack
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Speaker 1: me the other day and it just gave me horrible flashbacks.
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Speaker 1: He had rescued it from my cats, and I think
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Speaker 1: it was gaining vengeance on them by presumably it was
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Speaker 1: not a giant one. No, it was a little brown one,
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Speaker 1: but big enough, big enough to scare the snookers out
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Speaker 1: of me. What about you, Jonathan? I would say that
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Speaker 1: Michael Myers the the monstrous slasher killer in the Halloween
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Speaker 1: series because, as the series shows us, Michael Myers is
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Speaker 1: essentially a force of evil. He doesn't have any motivation
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Speaker 1: beyond killing people. That's it. Like, there's no way to
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Speaker 1: reason with him. Uh, there's apparently no way to kill
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Speaker 1: him because he keeps coming back. You can't really outrun
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Speaker 1: him because he's one of those horror movies. Like there's
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Speaker 1: that great I don't know if you've seen it, but
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Speaker 1: the great video of a couple of people showing how
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Speaker 1: uh movie slashers like Michael Myers are able to sneak
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Speaker 1: up on people and keep up with them even as
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Speaker 1: they run awa and every time the camera pans off,
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Speaker 1: they're just hauling tail as fast as they can down
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Speaker 1: the road and then like gasping for breath and then
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Speaker 1: bringing it together just as the victim comes around the corner. Um.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Michael Myers, and a close second would be
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Speaker 1: Mike Myers, the star of the Austin Powers movies. Um,
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Speaker 1: because he uses the same three jokes in all of
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Speaker 1: his movies. And that's terrifying to me. You know, that's
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Speaker 1: super interesting to me because when you said monsters, I well,
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Speaker 1: I certainly think like Michael Myers or Freddy Krueger or
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Speaker 1: Candyman or or you know, leather Face or whomever, are
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Speaker 1: all certainly monstrous. Like my brain went, those are people.
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Speaker 1: They're just really horrible people, and a lot of them
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Speaker 1: have supernatural forces too. But my brain was like, I
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Speaker 1: can't count them. That's that's that's fair. I did say,
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Speaker 1: I did say character, but I kind of snug it
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Speaker 1: in after monster because I said monster character. It's just
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Speaker 1: interesting because we're gonna open all of that up. Then, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like all of them, all of them, is my answer.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair. But yeah, it was more like,
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Speaker 1: let's let's name one and explain the reasoning. But we're
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Speaker 1: going to now segue into some news for this week.
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Speaker 1: We've got a few stories. We actually had a lot
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Speaker 1: of stories, but we we narrowed it down and one
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Speaker 1: of the pieces of news we have is Star Wars related,
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Speaker 1: which is that we have learned that, um that Anakin
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Speaker 1: is coming on back for the Asoka series. And by
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Speaker 1: Anakin he means hidden Christians in because there are a
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Speaker 1: couple of Anakins in the series. Um, yeah, not not
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Speaker 1: what's his face, the little kid? Not the little kid, no,
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Speaker 1: the older one. Yeah. He we knew he was going
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Speaker 1: to be an Obi Wan, but now he's going to
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Speaker 1: be in Soka's well, uh, I probably must pronounced that.
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Speaker 1: I still don't know how to say her name. Um,
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Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't know in what form he's going
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Speaker 1: to be coming back slash film. Slash film is like,
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Speaker 1: maybe he'll be there as Anakin because yeah, timelines are weird. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's because the series we assume is going to be
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Speaker 1: set in fact, we know it's going to be set
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Speaker 1: around the same time as the Mandalorian because we had
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Speaker 1: her show up in the Mandalorian that is set after
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Speaker 1: the events of Return of the Jedi where spoiler alert
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Speaker 1: if you haven't watched a movie that came out in like, uh,
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Speaker 1: Darth Vader is dead by the ind of Return of
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Speaker 1: the Jedi, So presumably Anakin would be toast Um. And
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Speaker 1: so the idea is that, you know, he might be
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Speaker 1: a Force ghost, or it might be that we see
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Speaker 1: flashbacks to her past and that's when we get, you know,
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Speaker 1: get some Christians in the action in there. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I was about to say, if you were a Force user,
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Speaker 1: once you're dead, that's not the end of it. You
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Speaker 1: always come back as a Force ghost, unless you're unless
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Speaker 1: you're quite gon Gin, unless you're a quiet gon Chin.
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Speaker 1: Although he might have come back in the last movie,
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Speaker 1: I don't know because I still haven't haven't seen it,
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Speaker 1: So there's spoiler for anybody who hasn't seen the last one.
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Speaker 1: There's like a montage of voices, and I believe his
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Speaker 1: voice is one of them. Yeah, so that's as close
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Speaker 1: as we get to a Jedi ghost version of Quigan. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you don't get to see one anyhow. I know that
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Speaker 1: that story might be a little scary for some people
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Speaker 1: who did not like the prequels, like Jonathan, but we
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Speaker 1: have another story that might also be a little scary,
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Speaker 1: which is that Sony has added to mystery Marvel movies
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Speaker 1: to its Q. Yes, and these do not include the
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Speaker 1: ones that have already been announced like Craven the Hunter
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Speaker 1: and more Bus which I forgot about, which I also
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Speaker 1: forgot about Morbus. Morbius was the one who they've already
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Speaker 1: introduced more Bus and we've got a trailer. Yeah, well
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Speaker 1: he and he was kind of alluded to in a
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Speaker 1: previous Sony movie. But yeah, so we don't know what
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Speaker 1: these are. Maybe they will be Sony centric spider Man films,
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Speaker 1: maybe they'll be more Venom films. Probably at least one
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Speaker 1: will be a Venom film, because Venom has proven that
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Speaker 1: they can go that route and not have to worry
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Speaker 1: about dealing with Marvel because Sony has the rights to
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Speaker 1: that character right now, so will have to wait and see.
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Speaker 1: I mean. This also reminds us that, of course, Disney
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Speaker 1: still has some unannounced Marvel titles, like they have placeholders
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Speaker 1: for Marvel films that have not been announced officially. We
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Speaker 1: assume one of them is Fantastic four. They have hinted
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Speaker 1: at that, but we have not had confirmation. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: it looks like they We're not. We're not gonna be
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Speaker 1: running short on Marvel content anytime soon. No. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if one of the new ones for Sony is black Cat,
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Speaker 1: because I know that they had been talking about her
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Speaker 1: a while ago pre pandemic. I believe maybe giving her
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Speaker 1: her own standalone. I mean, if it's done well, I'm
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Speaker 1: more than happy to check it out. Like I've liked
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Speaker 1: the Spider Man films, and those have been Sony films.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've had collaboration with Marvel. But you know
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Speaker 1: that I liked the first Venom. I still haven't. I
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Speaker 1: still haven't seen it. That's just one of those things
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Speaker 1: where I was like, it didn't grab me, none of
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Speaker 1: the I've never liked the character Venom ever, Like I
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Speaker 1: remember when the Venom character was introduced in the comics.
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Speaker 1: I've never liked Venom, so that was part of it.
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Speaker 1: Is just that I have a bias against Venom, and
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Speaker 1: as you know, the quality of the movie could be fantastic.
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Speaker 1: I just don't care about the character. So that's why
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Speaker 1: I never bothered to see it. Well, do you care
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Speaker 1: about the DC character Firefly? I did not know that
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Speaker 1: such a character existed until we decided to cover this story.
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Speaker 1: So Brendan Fraser is going to play Firefly in the
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Speaker 1: HBO Max That Girl movie, which we talked about think
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Speaker 1: last week or the week before, one of those two
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Speaker 1: whenever you're talking about fandom. We touched on it briefly. So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so he's a pyromaniac and he's a criminal. I was
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Speaker 1: about to say, like his his superpower is Arson, Yes,
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Speaker 1: and according to the Mary Sue, he's not been on
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Speaker 1: the big screen. However, he was an Arrow. I remember
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Speaker 1: when that character showed up. An Arrow. Arrow is surprisingly
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Speaker 1: introduced me to a lot more DC villains than I
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Speaker 1: had previously had in my like mental rolodex. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: when it comes to DC villains, I mostly know Batman's
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Speaker 1: Rogues Gallery and that's about it. And and Batman's rogues
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Speaker 1: Gallery runs deep, y'all. Like you've got the ones that
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Speaker 1: everyone knows, right, Penguin, Redlerve Joker, obviously, the Catwoman. These
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Speaker 1: are all like the ones that everyone knows because they've
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Speaker 1: been used not just in the comics but in other
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Speaker 1: media versions of Batman. But then you start getting into
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Speaker 1: some of the stuff where I guess more re audiences
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Speaker 1: are more familiar with them because they've shown up in
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Speaker 1: video games and stuff. So like calendar Man and Zazz
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Speaker 1: and characters like that, those have come up a little
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Speaker 1: bit more frequently, and because they are in other forms
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Speaker 1: of media besides the comic books, people are familiar with them.
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Speaker 1: But I had never heard of Firefly before seeing this story.
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Speaker 1: I am mostly see it's a story about space cowboys. No, right,
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Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser leaf on the wind. Watch how he soars.
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Speaker 1: You know he's gonna die. They kill their DC villains
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Speaker 1: all the time. But I will say that I am
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Speaker 1: excited to see Brendan Frasier playing a villain that I
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Speaker 1: think will be interesting. I mean, he plays he plays
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Speaker 1: robot Man, who's like an anti hero. Yeah, he's not
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Speaker 1: so much a villain as he is kind of a
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Speaker 1: selfish not always selfish, but frequently a selfish jerk. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I don't think he's not really a villain. That
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Speaker 1: he's anti heroes probably a better way of describing him.
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Speaker 1: He's heavily flawed, but but he's not like outright, you know,
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Speaker 1: trying to wreak havoc and so mayhem and stuff. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it because I think it'll be
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Speaker 1: interesting to see, especially an actor who is as beloved
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Speaker 1: as Brendan Fraser. You know, his his his sort of
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Speaker 1: career renaissance has come with it an incredible groundswell of
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Speaker 1: fans support. It'll be interesting to see him play a
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Speaker 1: bad guy. Yes, I agree, I am. I am one
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Speaker 1: of those fans. I really like Brendan Fraser. I think
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Speaker 1: he's a great actor, and he seems like a nice dude.
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Speaker 1: I've not met him, but he seems like he's a
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Speaker 1: nice dude. So we have one more story you want
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Speaker 1: to briefly touch Sean before break, which is that Dune
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Speaker 1: came out. It's doing really well in the theaters, and
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Speaker 1: they've announced a sequel, uh for tentatively October, which is
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Speaker 1: good because as I understand it, and I have yet
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Speaker 1: to see dude, I know you've seen it, arial but
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. As I understand it, the
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Speaker 1: current movie ends midway through the first book, and I've
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Speaker 1: heard it described as a fairly abrupt ending. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if that's the case. So, like, I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out how to say this without like giving spoilers
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Speaker 1: to anybody. First of all, you know if you have
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Speaker 1: not read Dune or watched the previous um mini series,
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Speaker 1: I will say that the first like third of the
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Speaker 1: New Dude movie is going to be hard to follow.
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Speaker 1: They do eventually tie up all of the little strings
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Speaker 1: they put forward, but it's going to take a bit
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Speaker 1: for you to make sense of everything because it's a
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Speaker 1: slow noir movie moving kind of feel to it. But
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Speaker 1: that being said, the yeah, it it's interesting because I
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Speaker 1: felt like it was an abrupt stop in the movie.
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Speaker 1: I've came out of Dune. First of all. I loved
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Speaker 1: it because but I like the book, and it's a fairly,
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Speaker 1: fairly truthful adaptation of it. It ends at a place
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Speaker 1: in the book where kind of the focus on the
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Speaker 1: characters changes. So like, my husband's reading through Dune and
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Speaker 1: he stopped right about the place where this movie stops
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Speaker 1: because he said, maybe ten pages later, because he's like,
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Speaker 1: it feels like the story has just changed focus entirely
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Speaker 1: and it's all about all these new characters. So from
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Speaker 1: that aspect from somebody who's not a long standing fan
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Speaker 1: of Dune, you know, maybe it's a good stopping place.
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Speaker 1: But that being said, I didn't feel like there was
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Speaker 1: a good tie up to the end of the story.
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Speaker 1: It was just kind of the characters walking off into
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Speaker 1: the sunset at that point. I don't think that spoils
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Speaker 1: too much. And yeah is for me, it's fine because
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Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the story, and I'll go watch the
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Speaker 1: second half and I'll probably watch the first half again
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Speaker 1: before watching the second half. But for people who are
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Speaker 1: newer to Doune or not like as it's not as
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Speaker 1: ingrained in their memory, like that is a long time
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Speaker 1: to wait for a story that was only half a story, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and didn't even leave you on a cliffhanger like it's
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Speaker 1: Maybe sometime we'll have to have a conversation about the
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Speaker 1: different approaches to sequels, like sequels that are almost like
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Speaker 1: an episodic kind of sequel, where like the Indiana Jones movies,
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Speaker 1: each of the Indiana Jones movies is a standalone film,
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Speaker 1: and while they might reference things from previous films, it's
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Speaker 1: not a continuation of the story. So you don't have
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Speaker 1: to have seen any of the others to see any
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Speaker 1: individual one and enjoy it, except for Crystal Skull, which
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Speaker 1: is terrible, but then same with James Bond. For the
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Speaker 1: most part, I mean there are also some things that
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Speaker 1: connect various James Bond films together, but mostly they're independent.
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Speaker 1: And then you get things like Back to the Future
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Speaker 1: two and Back to the Future three, which directly tied
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Speaker 1: to one another um and in those cases it's pretty
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Speaker 1: common for or like the Lord of the Rings movies.
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Speaker 1: In those cases, it's common for studios to go in
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Speaker 1: all all in and just make both at the same time,
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Speaker 1: and then that way there you know one can be
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Speaker 1: released while the other one is still in post production.
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Speaker 1: But then you have like a year separating the two,
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Speaker 1: not two years. So this is a long time to
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Speaker 1: wait to find out what happens at the rest of
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Speaker 1: the story. Leaving the theater, I'm like, I understand why
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Speaker 1: it's been a mini series in the past instead of
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Speaker 1: a movie, because I'm happy to wait till next week.
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Speaker 1: Two years seems a long time to continue to care
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Speaker 1: about these characters if I did not already. But they
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Speaker 1: did warn us at the beginning of the movie. It
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Speaker 1: starts off with a little subtitle that says Part one,
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Speaker 1: and unlike the Snyder cut of The Justice League, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't go through four of those, It just goes through
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Speaker 1: the one. Otherwise, I enjoyed it, but I like Dune
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Speaker 1: so excellent. Well, it has a thumbs up from Arial
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Speaker 1: and a I haven't seen it yet from Jonathan, who
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Speaker 1: plans on watching it someday. All right, well, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go and take a break. When we come back, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about horror movies and what makes a good
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Speaker 1: bad horror movie, as well as couple of trailers that
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Speaker 1: might promise to be kind of a maybe a good
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Speaker 1: bad horror movie. We'll have to find out, but we'll
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Speaker 1: be back after this break. So I want to say, Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: when I looked at our lineup in the stories that
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Speaker 1: you had added to it, I was like, dang, he
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Speaker 1: added two horror movie trailers and I'm going to have
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Speaker 1: to watch them and I'm gonna be so scared. But
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Speaker 1: it turns out that wasn't the case. They're both, at
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Speaker 1: least premise le wise, really interesting trailers that I enjoined. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the two movies that I added, because the trailers came
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Speaker 1: out the day we're recording this, which is on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: Whereas Black Friday, which is a zombie film set during
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Speaker 1: Black Friday, the friday after Thanksgiving where all the stores
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Speaker 1: open up their door busting deals and crowds of people
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Speaker 1: crowded in to try and get a bargain. In this case,
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a group of people working in a
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Speaker 1: toy store and the crowd wanting to barge in turns
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Speaker 1: into a riot of zombies. Yes, um, that's not a spoiler.
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Speaker 1: It's in the trailer. The hilarious thing is, I was
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Speaker 1: watching the beginning of the trailer and I said, man,
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Speaker 1: this feels a little bit like the reboot of Evil
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Speaker 1: Dead when they rebooted it on Stars, the TV show
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Speaker 1: with Bruce Campbell, and then this Campbell shows up. And
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Speaker 1: then Bruce Campbell shows up, not as his character from
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Speaker 1: the Evil Dead, not as Ash, but no, he's he's
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Speaker 1: playing apparently the manager of the store, and he, at
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Speaker 1: least in the trailer, is coming across a sort of
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Speaker 1: the gosh, galy ge whiz happy, let's go out there
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Speaker 1: and sell toys kind of character, almost a little Pollyanna ish. Yeah. Yeah, um,
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Speaker 1: it's you know, it looks like a funny movie. It
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Speaker 1: looks like a gory. So I actually didn't look all
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Speaker 1: that gory from the trailer to me, but this zombie
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Speaker 1: movie so and it's got Bruce Campbell attached to it,
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Speaker 1: so I expect there will be gore. Yeah, we already
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Speaker 1: know one of the characters doesn't make it, because that
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Speaker 1: was in the trailer to where where they introduced the character,
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Speaker 1: and a second later in the trailer that character is
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Speaker 1: a zombie and you're like, well, no mystery about what
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Speaker 1: happens to the new guy. Um. And then the second
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Speaker 1: trailer that I added was for a movie called Unwelcome,
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Speaker 1: which I put in parentheses next to the trailer. A
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Speaker 1: fairy horror movie as in as in a fairy like
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Speaker 1: brownies and elves and pixies in this case red cap Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And the film shows a young couple who have inherited
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Speaker 1: a manor house in England, and it comes with one
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Speaker 1: little catch. And the catch isn't the classic. You have
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Speaker 1: to spend the night, a whole night here, and then
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Speaker 1: you you're fortunate as yours. No, it's there is a
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Speaker 1: little door in the garden and um, like, there's a
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Speaker 1: little door that's in the wall in the garden, and
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Speaker 1: you are to leave a blood offering every single day
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Speaker 1: to satiate the red caps that live behind the door,
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Speaker 1: or else they'll take what is owed to them, and Um.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to Ariel before the show started about
20:23
Speaker 1: how I found the trailer a little. Um Like, I
20:27
Speaker 1: like the premise because I like I like the idea
20:30
Speaker 1: of you know, the dark stories about fairies. I like
20:33
Speaker 1: those a lot. I find those really interesting. The trailer
20:36
Speaker 1: didn't work for me because it felt a little too choppy.
20:40
Speaker 1: It felt a little too disjointed. Yet I was seeing
20:43
Speaker 1: the same sort of thing over and over. And also
20:46
Speaker 1: I found it confusing that you have two different threats
20:49
Speaker 1: in the movie. As the trailer unfolds, there's the threat
20:54
Speaker 1: of the locals who all for some reason resent the
20:57
Speaker 1: young couple, and you have the threat of the Red
21:00
Speaker 1: Caps themselves. And um, I'm like this one, this this
21:07
Speaker 1: is something that should appeal to me based on the
21:09
Speaker 1: subject matter. And it didn't quite work. Yeah, I mean
21:13
Speaker 1: I like the subject matter as well. So the first
21:15
Speaker 1: lap I actually played for MPC one of the one
21:19
Speaker 1: of the creatures boards that would come out. We're Red
21:23
Speaker 1: caps um and there are a lot of fun to play.
21:25
Speaker 1: You know. They would go and we'd beat up PCs
21:27
Speaker 1: and then dip our caps in their blood. Um. I
21:29
Speaker 1: know it sounds really dark, but we were villains come
21:31
Speaker 1: on people. Um, yeah, there's Areal the seven foot tall ferry.
21:36
Speaker 1: I'm not seven foot tall. I'm five ten on a
21:40
Speaker 1: good day. Well, sometimes I wear heels from lamping, so
21:43
Speaker 1: I can be a lot tallerant, but I haven't done
21:46
Speaker 1: that in a while. Um. That being said, I turned
21:48
Speaker 1: on this trailer after he said fairy. I'm like, okay,
21:51
Speaker 1: I've got to watch it. Like I've watched Pan's Labyrinth.
21:53
Speaker 1: That was a good fairy horror. That's amazing. Yes, And
21:57
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this movie instantly has made has
22:00
Speaker 1: Hannah John came in who was gave a slash the
22:02
Speaker 1: ghost in ant Man in Wasp, has called Meny who
22:06
Speaker 1: was O'Brien and O'Brian. Yeah, and then it's got Christian
22:12
Speaker 1: Naron who was Hodor uh. So instantly just this automatic
22:17
Speaker 1: like cast of sci fi fantasy, fantasy like I think
22:21
Speaker 1: hard hitters. And then yeah, it never quite hook got
22:26
Speaker 1: to the hook quite far enough. It's like they walked
22:29
Speaker 1: up to the hook of the movie and then stepped away, Um,
22:32
Speaker 1: instead of just showing you a little bit of that
22:34
Speaker 1: hook to get you interested in in in seeing. Further
22:38
Speaker 1: that being said, I thought the locals were probably like,
22:41
Speaker 1: it made sense to me that the locals were maybe
22:44
Speaker 1: working for the Red Caps and therefore that's why they
22:48
Speaker 1: did not like the new couple. But there's a sequence
22:52
Speaker 1: in there where it seems that the Red Caps are
22:55
Speaker 1: specifically grabbing one of the locals and dragging him off
22:58
Speaker 1: into the forest. So I think I think I would
23:01
Speaker 1: have liked it more if they had focused more on
23:03
Speaker 1: the Red Caps in the trailer and that the locals thing.
23:08
Speaker 1: Yet it can unfold in a movie, but in a
23:10
Speaker 1: trailer where you're you know, you're trying to sell me
23:13
Speaker 1: on the movie with the trailer this whole purpose, and
23:15
Speaker 1: this one felt like it. Again, it was a little
23:17
Speaker 1: too disjointed for me. Now may turn out that the
23:20
Speaker 1: movie itself is brilliant and it's just a bad trailer
23:22
Speaker 1: that can happen. Yeah, it was interesting to me because
23:25
Speaker 1: I expected the like the little glimpses they did give
23:28
Speaker 1: us of the Red Caps of the villains. I expected
23:30
Speaker 1: it to be more fantastical, and it felt like a
23:32
Speaker 1: very like cut and dry, normal intrude or horror movie
23:36
Speaker 1: whenever they did show us the Red Cap glimpses. Well
23:39
Speaker 1: before the break, I had alluded to the fact that
23:42
Speaker 1: we were going to talk about like bad, bad, but
23:45
Speaker 1: entertaining horror movies. And I'm curious, Ariel, are there any
23:51
Speaker 1: movies you consider as being not good but entertaining that
23:55
Speaker 1: are in the horror genre for you? Um? Yes, I
23:59
Speaker 1: am almost ashamed to say. Well, I've said, like Dylan
24:03
Speaker 1: Dog Dead of Night, it's not really really a horror signore,
24:06
Speaker 1: but it's got, you know, monsters in it. Um Dagon Oh,
24:12
Speaker 1: the HP Lovecraft inspired movie. Yeah, it's not good. D
24:17
Speaker 1: A g O N. It is a dumb, dumb, bad
24:22
Speaker 1: movie with mediocre effects. For the record, I want to
24:27
Speaker 1: say that I actually think of that as a good movie.
24:29
Speaker 1: But okay, really I do. I do. I well, because
24:32
Speaker 1: Lovecraft is almost impossible to film because by the nature
24:36
Speaker 1: of weird fiction, Lovecraft was like he could never describe
24:41
Speaker 1: anything because it would drive you crazy. So um so
24:45
Speaker 1: it makes it very hard to film something love crafty
24:49
Speaker 1: and to get that sort of weird horror since Across
24:53
Speaker 1: and I thought, considering the constraints on budget and effects
24:58
Speaker 1: and everything, that that was a pretty admirable attempt. I mean,
25:04
Speaker 1: I agree with that. It just like when I'm like, oh,
25:07
Speaker 1: we're watching bad movies. I'm going to make my friends
25:09
Speaker 1: watch this one because they haven't, and it's always a
25:12
Speaker 1: crowd pleaser. So that's fair, Like I said, a good
25:15
Speaker 1: bad movie. Another one, although some people just think this
25:17
Speaker 1: is good and other people argue that it's not. Horror
25:20
Speaker 1: is Tremors? See now, first of all, horror, horror, super
25:26
Speaker 1: scary to mere, Tremors is almost a perfect movie. It
25:31
Speaker 1: is almost a perfect movie. It is not that I'm
25:35
Speaker 1: saying that it's the best film ever made, but rather
25:39
Speaker 1: it sets out to be a certain kind of entertaining
25:42
Speaker 1: and it succeeds almost ad in that, And so not
25:46
Speaker 1: saying like it's the best movie ever made, but rather
25:49
Speaker 1: you can tell what the intent was of the filmmakers
25:53
Speaker 1: and they attained the goal that they set out to make,
25:56
Speaker 1: and not every movie does that, Like I'm talking, like
25:58
Speaker 1: even big budget movies. You can go and you're like, well,
26:02
Speaker 1: I see what they were going for, but they didn't.
26:04
Speaker 1: They didn't land it. They didn't stick the landing. Tremors
26:08
Speaker 1: sticks that landing. So I mean, I would agree with you,
26:12
Speaker 1: and I was excited when we had the hope of
26:14
Speaker 1: a Tremor's TV show that we don't anymore, especially when
26:18
Speaker 1: they released that little clip from it. But I guess,
26:21
Speaker 1: I guess for me, it's it's you know, is it
26:23
Speaker 1: a big budget blockbuster horror movie? Those tend to appeal
26:28
Speaker 1: to me less, maybe because I watched my first ones
26:30
Speaker 1: when I was like fifth grade and against my parents
26:34
Speaker 1: better better wishes I did, and like it was. It
26:37
Speaker 1: was Cannyman and it was Freddy Krueger, and it scared
26:40
Speaker 1: the snot out of me. And I just I don't
26:43
Speaker 1: like those big budgets. But like B level horror movies,
26:46
Speaker 1: there's just enough and and tremors. I don't know if
26:50
Speaker 1: it counts as a B level horror movie, but there's
26:53
Speaker 1: just enough kitchiness in it that I can divorce myself
26:56
Speaker 1: from it enough to enjoy. I mean, it's it's got
26:59
Speaker 1: some camp in it, and that makes it really fun.
27:02
Speaker 1: So for me, like one of the movies I thought
27:05
Speaker 1: of and I actually tried watching it recently, uh, and
27:08
Speaker 1: it does not hold up and upon rewatching, But as
27:13
Speaker 1: a kid, I loved it, which was House Too. So
27:16
Speaker 1: the first House movie is a kind of a straightforward
27:21
Speaker 1: horror ghost movie. House Too is a horror comedy film
27:26
Speaker 1: and has no connection whatsoever to the first House. I'm
27:29
Speaker 1: guessing that maybe they branded it as House two after
27:34
Speaker 1: the fact. I don't know why they would, because I
27:36
Speaker 1: don't think House was that big of a hit. But um,
27:41
Speaker 1: I tried watching it recently and like I said, it
27:42
Speaker 1: does not hold up well. But it is a pretty
27:45
Speaker 1: it's a pretty bad movie at the time when I
27:48
Speaker 1: was a kid who entertained me as an adult. Uh,
27:51
Speaker 1: it's a cop out to say this, Patrol Too was.
27:54
Speaker 1: I was about to say, like House To sounds similar
27:57
Speaker 1: in concept to troll To, or they just well, we'll
27:59
Speaker 1: see completely house to. Well, yeah, well, troll To was
28:03
Speaker 1: not has no connection whatsoever to the first Troll movie,
28:06
Speaker 1: which I still think of as a as a pretty
28:09
Speaker 1: decent horror film. The first Troll film is a fairly
28:12
Speaker 1: decent horror film, and one that I would put into
28:14
Speaker 1: a category with stuff like Gremlins and cramp Us, the
28:18
Speaker 1: kind of horror movies that a like a preteen or
28:22
Speaker 1: teenager might watch, and that's what kind of gets them
28:25
Speaker 1: interested in the horror genre, because that's how it happened
28:27
Speaker 1: with me. But um, troll Too is just a glorious mess.
28:32
Speaker 1: But there's no point in talking about it because there
28:36
Speaker 1: was a whole documentary made about it, you know, like
28:39
Speaker 1: that whole thing is documented. So if you are if
28:43
Speaker 1: you haven't seen troll To, it is worth getting a
28:45
Speaker 1: group together to watch, just so you can occasionally say,
28:48
Speaker 1: wait what. Um. It's the exact same reaction I had
28:52
Speaker 1: when I saw one of Ariel's favorite movies, which is, well,
28:57
Speaker 1: I'll hold up a thing and see if you can
28:58
Speaker 1: figure it out. Oh, the room, Yeah, that's that's that's
29:02
Speaker 1: that is up. He held up a plastic spoon, which
29:07
Speaker 1: if you go to see a like a group setting
29:10
Speaker 1: viewing of the room, or if you're at a very
29:12
Speaker 1: generous friend's house, Um, on one of the tables, they
29:15
Speaker 1: have a framed picture of a spoon. No explanation. There's
29:18
Speaker 1: so much in that movie that defies explanation. Again, I'm
29:21
Speaker 1: not recommending it. It's not a good movie. Do not
29:23
Speaker 1: watch it alone. You will not make it. But you
29:27
Speaker 1: have to watch it with friends who already know. But
29:30
Speaker 1: whenever you go to the live showing, much like Rocky Horror,
29:34
Speaker 1: you would interact with the movie and the audience. So
29:36
Speaker 1: whenever they showed the framed picture of the spoon, people
29:38
Speaker 1: would show throw plastic spoons. Towards a friend of the theater.
29:42
Speaker 1: You always want to sit in the back of the theater,
29:44
Speaker 1: or you can get helped in the back of the
29:45
Speaker 1: head with plastic spoons. You don't think they're going to
29:47
Speaker 1: hurt as much as they do. Um, but um, it
29:51
Speaker 1: is a fun experience. That being said, when you're talking
29:54
Speaker 1: about troll and Troll Too, I realized something, What's that
29:58
Speaker 1: I've seen those, but I cannot pull out what happens
30:02
Speaker 1: in those from what happens in Earnest Scared Stupid other
30:07
Speaker 1: really bad horror movie that I enjoyed. Well, I haven't
30:11
Speaker 1: watched it in a long time. It was funny because
30:14
Speaker 1: I watched Troll Too for a show that I used
30:17
Speaker 1: to do with with my friends i As and Eric
30:19
Speaker 1: called Podcast without Pretense, and we Patrolled Too. Because I
30:22
Speaker 1: had thought that I had not seen the whole thing.
30:24
Speaker 1: I thought I had only watched a little bit of it. Um,
30:27
Speaker 1: And so the whole idea was that we were just
30:29
Speaker 1: going to see how long we could go watching bad
30:32
Speaker 1: movies with no distractions nearby. And the longer I went,
30:36
Speaker 1: the more I realized I had seen the entirety of
30:39
Speaker 1: Troll To. I just forgot that I had watched the
30:43
Speaker 1: whole thing before, and which was kind of a It
30:47
Speaker 1: was not in the spirit of the experiment, because the
30:49
Speaker 1: whole idea was that you were supposed to watch something new,
30:51
Speaker 1: but you were also supposed to get rid of any like.
30:53
Speaker 1: You weren't supposed to have your phone with you or
30:55
Speaker 1: your computer up. You weren't even supposed to talk to
30:58
Speaker 1: someone else in the room. You were just supposed to
31:00
Speaker 1: focus on the film and see how long you could go.
31:02
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, but that was due to my terrible
31:05
Speaker 1: memory and the fact that that I think my brain
31:08
Speaker 1: was trying to preserve my sanity by erasing that from
31:11
Speaker 1: my But but every time, every moment that went by,
31:14
Speaker 1: I thought, no, I've seen this sequence before. It must
31:18
Speaker 1: have been here where I stopped, and the next scene
31:20
Speaker 1: would start like, Nope, seen this one too. Listen. We
31:24
Speaker 1: have a mutual friend who did that with aunt Man
31:26
Speaker 1: in Wasp or aunt Man, one of the two. She said,
31:30
Speaker 1: I've never seen this, and we invited her pre pandemic
31:32
Speaker 1: over to watch it, and then all the way through
31:33
Speaker 1: she's like, I've seen up to this point, all the
31:36
Speaker 1: way through the entire movie. Yeah, I mean some movies,
31:39
Speaker 1: well to be fair, like all the origin story movies
31:42
Speaker 1: of Marvel are the same film, so it's easy to forget.
31:46
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think. I think for me, a good
31:49
Speaker 1: bad movie in general, and a good bad horror movie
31:52
Speaker 1: in particular, it needs to have some certain qualities in
31:56
Speaker 1: order for it to qualify. One of those is that
31:59
Speaker 1: it cannot be intentionally bad. The filmmaks shark Nado, like
32:04
Speaker 1: Shark Nado Asylum films are terrible. Those are films made
32:07
Speaker 1: by committee for the sole purpose of being cheap, knockoff
32:10
Speaker 1: bad movies. And that's just so, there's no there's no
32:15
Speaker 1: fun to that. Like the fun part is watching someone
32:19
Speaker 1: who was creating something and they just they just failed miserably.
32:25
Speaker 1: And it's not to make fun of the person, but
32:27
Speaker 1: rather to just see the level of commitment that went
32:32
Speaker 1: into something that was a total misfire Like that, to
32:35
Speaker 1: me can be really entertaining. But it has to be
32:38
Speaker 1: it has to be honestly gained. It has to be
32:40
Speaker 1: honestly bad as opposed to manufactured to be bad on purpose.
32:45
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think for me, there are
32:48
Speaker 1: some movies that are are bad on purpose, like the
32:50
Speaker 1: FP that I think are really well done, but it
32:53
Speaker 1: has to have a level of buy in from the
32:55
Speaker 1: actors where they are really committed to the story and
32:57
Speaker 1: the characters are making no matter how numb it is,
33:00
Speaker 1: and that's that's what sells it for me. Well. And
33:02
Speaker 1: also those movies I think of as almost being more
33:05
Speaker 1: like parodies of a genre as opposed to we're setting
33:09
Speaker 1: out to make a bad movie. So like the FP
33:11
Speaker 1: or Turbo Kid, Um, those those movies to me feel
33:16
Speaker 1: like it just scared stupid. I'm not going to put
33:18
Speaker 1: that one in there, but it feels like it feels
33:21
Speaker 1: like those were sincere efforts to do a spoof or
33:26
Speaker 1: parody on something, almost like it's a loving homage to
33:30
Speaker 1: a genre film that the filmmakers love, but they also
33:33
Speaker 1: recognize how ridiculous and absurd those movies are and they're
33:37
Speaker 1: embracing it. That's not quite the same as sort of
33:41
Speaker 1: the cynical cash grab approach that Asylum typically goes after.
33:46
Speaker 1: But I mean, like it's it's a weird line to
33:48
Speaker 1: drop it. Like if you watch a lot of them,
33:51
Speaker 1: like MST three K movies, which I would say largely
33:53
Speaker 1: fall into science fiction, a lot of them are kind
33:56
Speaker 1: of scarier science fiction, So could delve into horror. Again.
34:00
Speaker 1: Those are so good because the actors are trying m
34:05
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they succeed, but they're trying so well.
34:10
Speaker 1: In a moment, you're going to hear your beloved hosts
34:14
Speaker 1: try to mash up a couple of different properties. But
34:18
Speaker 1: before we get to that, let's take another break. Okay.
34:38
Speaker 1: So one of the two things we decided to use
34:41
Speaker 1: in our mash up was this little film franchise also
34:45
Speaker 1: has some like you know, TV series and comic books
34:49
Speaker 1: and novels and video games and cartoons. You might have
34:52
Speaker 1: heard of it, Star Wars um. I mean we talked
34:55
Speaker 1: about it earlier, earlier in the episodes. If you're paying
34:58
Speaker 1: attention with a soca, that whole thing. Yeah, So we
35:01
Speaker 1: decided that we were going to take the Star Wars
35:04
Speaker 1: universe and mash that up. And because it is the
35:07
Speaker 1: end of Halloween, we wanted to mash it up with
35:10
Speaker 1: something scary, and Ariel suggested Scream. So we have mashed
35:17
Speaker 1: up Scream and Star Wars, each of us have. And
35:20
Speaker 1: I should also add, just in case you're not familiar
35:22
Speaker 1: with Scream, that's a franchise that started off with the
35:27
Speaker 1: idea of kind of deconstructing the slasher film genre where
35:34
Speaker 1: the characters who are in the film are aware, like
35:37
Speaker 1: the slasher films are a thing in that universe, right,
35:41
Speaker 1: Like a lot of the movies you watch, characters are
35:44
Speaker 1: unaware of certain things, like like a lot of zombie movies,
35:48
Speaker 1: characters have never heard of zombies before, so they never
35:50
Speaker 1: call them zombies because in this world, apparently zombies are
35:54
Speaker 1: not a a thing in pop culture. Well, just like that,
35:58
Speaker 1: you know a lot of slasher films. No one knows
36:00
Speaker 1: about slasher movies, screams, different slasher movies exist, and you
36:04
Speaker 1: even have a character who specifically lays out the rules
36:07
Speaker 1: of slasher films and how, uh you know, how you
36:10
Speaker 1: can try to survive a slasher film. So it it,
36:16
Speaker 1: like I said, deconstructs them. And there are five of them,
36:22
Speaker 1: and uh, the main character, or at least a a
36:27
Speaker 1: primary character, is Sydney Prescott, who she was the the
36:31
Speaker 1: final girl in the first film and has so far
36:34
Speaker 1: made it through all the others. We assume that, well
36:38
Speaker 1: we don't assume she may or may not make it
36:41
Speaker 1: through the next one, which is coming out soon. So
36:44
Speaker 1: I think that's a good summary of scream So Ariel,
36:49
Speaker 1: which of us would you like to go first? Um?
36:53
Speaker 1: I can go first. But I just want to say
36:55
Speaker 1: that this was not all of my brilliance that Um
36:59
Speaker 1: I was inspired because Mike Flannagan, who did Midnight Mass
37:02
Speaker 1: and dr Sleep and all that, wants to do a
37:04
Speaker 1: horror Star Wars. Not that you know, we didn't just
37:07
Speaker 1: get a scary lego Star Wars show books about it.
37:12
Speaker 1: But but you know it's not uncommon. You know, there's
37:16
Speaker 1: nothing scarier than stepping on a piece of lego. Yeah. Now,
37:19
Speaker 1: I will say that that that's kind of interesting to
37:21
Speaker 1: think of a horror Star Wars simply because we've already
37:23
Speaker 1: we've had a heist Star Wars movie with the Han
37:27
Speaker 1: Solo story, and we've had a dirty dozen style Star
37:31
Speaker 1: Wars movie with Rogue One. So I'm curious if we're
37:34
Speaker 1: going to get a Star Wars musical. Are we gonna
37:37
Speaker 1: get like, like, are we gonna get every genre? A
37:40
Speaker 1: romantic comedy Star Wars. I would love a Star Wars musical.
37:44
Speaker 1: There's there's a kind of like music key episode of
37:47
Speaker 1: Star Wars Visions that I'm only part way through. Some
37:50
Speaker 1: people would say that the prequels to Star wars are
37:54
Speaker 1: a horror well, and some would even say can extend
37:58
Speaker 1: that to the sequels? Yes, anyhow, I am not necessarily
38:02
Speaker 1: that person. So that being said, I'll go first. And
38:05
Speaker 1: this is called in scream. No one can hear you space. Okay,
38:11
Speaker 1: wait before you start kudos on the title, thank you,
38:16
Speaker 1: thank you. Um. This is because that's all I'm gonna
38:18
Speaker 1: get kudas on this time. Probably all right, Someone we
38:24
Speaker 1: don't know or don't have time to care about gets
38:27
Speaker 1: murdered with cauterized wounds, and that's how the story begins.
38:31
Speaker 1: It's only the second time ever a murder has happened
38:33
Speaker 1: in this little town that I don't remember the name of,
38:36
Speaker 1: and the wounds are the same as the previous murder
38:38
Speaker 1: that happened in this little town, the wounds that belonged
38:41
Speaker 1: to the previous murdered person Sidney Prescott's mother, and so
38:45
Speaker 1: it gains media coverage. Next we see Sidney Prescott, who
38:49
Speaker 1: is chilling at home when this happens, contemplating her mother's death,
38:52
Speaker 1: specifically wondering who in the world would be mean enough
38:55
Speaker 1: to name their child Cotton weary. No wonder he ended
38:58
Speaker 1: up being a killer and killing her mother, and that's
39:00
Speaker 1: when Sydney gets a confusing phone call, a phone call
39:03
Speaker 1: that is only deep, creepy breathing. Sydney, a bit disarmed
39:08
Speaker 1: by this, checks her doors and windows and sees a tall,
39:10
Speaker 1: dark figure cloaked in black, standing in the corner of
39:12
Speaker 1: a hallway in her home. As the figure pulls out
39:15
Speaker 1: a red laser sword and lunges toward her, she evades it,
39:17
Speaker 1: only to lose sight of where the intruder is. As
39:20
Speaker 1: she runs outside to get help, she runs into her boyfriend,
39:22
Speaker 1: who pulls out an inhaler into tells her it'll be okay.
39:25
Speaker 1: The inhaler sounds an awful lot like the creepy phone call,
39:28
Speaker 1: and she calls the cops on her boyfriend and he
39:30
Speaker 1: is put in jail. The next day, at school, Sydney
39:32
Speaker 1: has an uneasy feeling and finds it hard to concentrate
39:35
Speaker 1: on her classes. Thankfully, school gets canceled that same morning
39:38
Speaker 1: due the due to the distraction of having a bunch
39:41
Speaker 1: of news crews in town because of a whole two murders,
39:44
Speaker 1: and as Sydney walks past the girl's restroom, she hears
39:47
Speaker 1: a noise that she think is that same creepy breathing.
39:50
Speaker 1: She enters the bathroom, protractor in hand to protect herself,
39:54
Speaker 1: only to see a malfunctioning toilet that won't stop flushing.
39:57
Speaker 1: As she shakes her head and exits the restroom, we
39:59
Speaker 1: see the tall, dark intruder exit a stall next to
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Speaker 1: the malfunctioning toilet, and that's when we see it's Darth Vader.
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Speaker 1: His shoulders shake as if he's laughing, and he exits
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Speaker 1: to find and kill the principle of the school. Now
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Speaker 1: that the kids are gone, Sydney's boyfriend is now obviously
40:14
Speaker 1: not the killer, and so they let him out of
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Speaker 1: jail and the kids throw a party, because that's what
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Speaker 1: you do when you're grieving creeped out teenager. At the party,
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Speaker 1: which the news is also at, because Sydney happens to
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Speaker 1: be the daughter of the other murdered victim in town,
40:28
Speaker 1: the teenagers do what all teenagers do. They get drunk
40:30
Speaker 1: and they make out. Of course, some kids die and
40:33
Speaker 1: other kids run away screaming, until we're left with only
40:35
Speaker 1: Sydney and her core group of friends. As the core
40:38
Speaker 1: group of friends all dispersed through the house to find
40:40
Speaker 1: the killer, Sydney is left alone where she gets another
40:43
Speaker 1: phone call from the killer, and then she hears it,
40:47
Speaker 1: but not in the phone, the creepy breathing. She turns
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Speaker 1: around and she sees Darth Vader in her home and
40:52
Speaker 1: now she knows it must be her boyfriend or his
40:54
Speaker 1: bestie because they were both huge Star Wars nerves. But
40:58
Speaker 1: then she sees her boyfriend in his buddy dead next
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Speaker 1: to Darth Vader. She tries to signal out the window
41:04
Speaker 1: to the news crews to get help, but they're dead
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Speaker 1: on their van with smoking glowing holes through their chests.
41:10
Speaker 1: Darth Vader walks towards Sydney, chuckling, and he pulls out
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Speaker 1: his lightsaber. She screams, who are you? What do you want?
41:17
Speaker 1: And Darth Vader pulls off his mask and it's jar
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Speaker 1: Jar Binks. He slices at Sydney and we cut to credits.
41:23
Speaker 1: You see Sydney was the final distant relative of some
41:26
Speaker 1: Jedi is born in a galaxy so long ago and
41:28
Speaker 1: far away that the world thought it was just to
41:30
Speaker 1: make believe story. But jar Jar Binks it turns out
41:33
Speaker 1: turns sit and gained immortality, making it his life's mission
41:36
Speaker 1: to rid the universe of all traces of the Jedi
41:38
Speaker 1: that ruined his life and left him a homeless clown.
41:41
Speaker 1: Upon killing Sydney, he would fulfill his life's destiny and
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Speaker 1: rule the galaxies forever. Post credit scene, we see Jar
41:47
Speaker 1: Sith leaving and laughing as he mounts his spaceship to
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Speaker 1: go back to his base. We see Sydney's hand lying
41:53
Speaker 1: on the ground in her house. A finger twitches and
41:55
Speaker 1: a knife starts inching towards it. Cut to black. So
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Speaker 1: I like that you have incorporated the fan fiction of
42:04
Speaker 1: Sith jar Jar, yeah, which is is a recent thing, right,
42:08
Speaker 1: fairly recent? Yes? All right, Well, before we get to
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Speaker 1: Jonathan's brilliance, we need to take one more quick break.
42:27
Speaker 1: I feel like we have some some commonalities in our stories.
42:32
Speaker 1: But but also I want to make clear that um,
42:36
Speaker 1: I decided to do what I usually do, which is
42:39
Speaker 1: create an entire huge amount of set up, and then
42:43
Speaker 1: I ran out of time to actually have a movie
42:45
Speaker 1: in there, So here we go. Mine is called Scream Wars.
42:51
Speaker 1: Sydney Prescott has a problem. After all the terrible events
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Speaker 1: in Woodsboro and then at Winsor College, and then in Hollywood,
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Speaker 1: and then back in Woodsboro and then in Woodsboro again.
43:05
Speaker 1: She has had enough, so she chose to travel far
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Speaker 1: away from her hometown, far far away, to another galaxy.
43:13
Speaker 1: And she must have time traveled because now she's in
43:15
Speaker 1: a place that was a long time ago. Well that's
43:18
Speaker 1: not her problem, that's just the setup. See. She's decided
43:22
Speaker 1: to move from the furthest point of the from the
43:25
Speaker 1: bright spot in the galaxy, the furthest point from it.
43:27
Speaker 1: It's a little desert planet called Tattooing, and she's working
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Speaker 1: on the Lars household moisture farm. It's hard work, but
43:35
Speaker 1: it's satisfying and most importantly, Sydney is far away from
43:39
Speaker 1: anyone she has ever known. But but we still haven't
43:42
Speaker 1: gotten to her problem yet. So her problem is she
43:45
Speaker 1: needs to go to Toashi Station to pick up some
43:47
Speaker 1: power converters. But Luke, the nephew of Owen and Burrew Lars,
43:53
Speaker 1: is like a total flake. He's proven to be completely unreliable,
43:57
Speaker 1: constantly gazing off into the middle, disc ends and lamenting
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Speaker 1: that the world of Tattooing is boring. I mean, it
44:03
Speaker 1: takes everything in Sydney not to grab Luke by the shoulders,
44:07
Speaker 1: shake him violently and yell that boring is a good thing. Anyway,
44:13
Speaker 1: on the day that she's supposed to go get those
44:15
Speaker 1: power converters with Luke, he up and runs off with
44:19
Speaker 1: a couple of droids that Owen had recently purchased. Now,
44:22
Speaker 1: the mechanic droid was a real lost Sydney could see
44:24
Speaker 1: a lot of potential in that R two unit, but
44:26
Speaker 1: that Protocol droid was a real pain in the patookas
44:28
Speaker 1: quite the chatterbox that one. But Luke's departure meant that
44:32
Speaker 1: the land speeder was gone, which left Sydney stranded on
44:35
Speaker 1: the moisture farm. Anyway, she goes off to do some
44:39
Speaker 1: work on on the evaporators, you know, tending to them
44:42
Speaker 1: and repairing a damaged one, and she's like a good
44:45
Speaker 1: three hour walk from the Lars household. When she comes
44:47
Speaker 1: back at the end of the day, she finds a
44:49
Speaker 1: terrible scene. The home has been burnt down and the
44:53
Speaker 1: Lars Is family, I mean they've they've been burnt to cinders.
44:56
Speaker 1: And she spots a land seat speeder that's heading off
44:59
Speaker 1: in the distance. It's it's Luke most likely, but he's
45:01
Speaker 1: well out of earshot at this point. And worst of all,
45:05
Speaker 1: in the sand, she sees a knife, a knife that
45:09
Speaker 1: looks like it didn't come from Tattooing or some spaceport,
45:12
Speaker 1: but from Earth. And then our communicator goes off. Luke,
45:17
Speaker 1: she says, Hey, you need to swing back around and
45:19
Speaker 1: come get me. Do you like science fiction movies? Says
45:24
Speaker 1: a voice that's all too familiar on the other end
45:27
Speaker 1: of the communicator. You gotta be kidding me, says Sydney.
45:32
Speaker 1: I never a kid, said you should know that, says
45:36
Speaker 1: the voice. Look, you've never been the same person twice,
45:42
Speaker 1: so that kind of mind game just isn't gonna work. Creep.
45:46
Speaker 1: I mean, you're literally a different person in every movie.
45:50
Speaker 1: Sometimes you are two people. Sometimes it makes a little sense,
45:54
Speaker 1: but often it doesn't make any sense at all. So
45:57
Speaker 1: don't come at me with you. I know you see crap.
46:00
Speaker 1: I've heard it all before. Whoa, whoa, Sorry, I'm new
46:05
Speaker 1: to this, says the voice. Well, of course you're new
46:08
Speaker 1: to this. I killed all the other ones. So what
46:12
Speaker 1: you got a death wish to that? Why you want
46:14
Speaker 1: to follow me all the way to Tattooed? Huh? Come
46:16
Speaker 1: ambe bro, says sid. So you're on tattoo Weed, says
46:21
Speaker 1: the voice. Good to know, and the communicator goes dead.
46:26
Speaker 1: Sid groans and throws the communicator across the burned out
46:29
Speaker 1: husk of the Lars home, skittering off a couple of
46:31
Speaker 1: skeletons along the way, and she grabs some stuff and
46:34
Speaker 1: starts trudging off into the distance, keeping an eye out
46:37
Speaker 1: for sand people, but once she sees the distant lights
46:40
Speaker 1: of mussis Lee, she uses a flare and before long
46:42
Speaker 1: a traveler and a landspeeder comes by and gives her
46:45
Speaker 1: a lift to the spaceport. Once there, she makes her
46:48
Speaker 1: way to a cantina to refresh herself. Turns out Luke
46:51
Speaker 1: was just there with some old guy who apparently disarmed
46:55
Speaker 1: a creep literally and then made a deal with some
46:58
Speaker 1: nerve herder and his enormous n bear. But Sid has
47:01
Speaker 1: other things to worry about. Knowing she has to get
47:05
Speaker 1: off the planet now because that ghost face guy, whoever
47:09
Speaker 1: he or she or they might be, is onto her,
47:13
Speaker 1: she starts searching around and eventually she finds a merchant
47:15
Speaker 1: who's willing to give her passage, and it's only gonna
47:18
Speaker 1: take every credit she ever earned as a moisture farmer,
47:21
Speaker 1: But seeing she's out of options, she takes the merchant
47:24
Speaker 1: up on the offer, she travels with a group of folks,
47:27
Speaker 1: all headed off world to various locations. There's an athletic
47:31
Speaker 1: young woman fresh off the pod racing circuit. There's a
47:34
Speaker 1: musician who just recently got kicked off the Moss Eisley
47:37
Speaker 1: Cantina band for not being alien enough. There's this weird
47:40
Speaker 1: kid who keeps talking about the rules of science fiction movies.
47:44
Speaker 1: It's an odd assortment of various character archetypes, and that
47:48
Speaker 1: immediately triggers Sydney's paranoia. She realizes she's in a ship
47:52
Speaker 1: filled with people who all fit certain character types, and
47:56
Speaker 1: sure enough, not long after taking off, Sydney finds the
47:59
Speaker 1: corpse of the musician. He's got a scorched slash across
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Speaker 1: his chest. She calls the others to the scene of
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Speaker 1: the crime, but of course she's the one who found
48:09
Speaker 1: the body, so she's the one who comes under suspicion.
48:12
Speaker 1: And then we have the supertense sequence, in which we
48:14
Speaker 1: see a killer in black chasing after the various people
48:17
Speaker 1: on the ship and knocking off one by one. But
48:19
Speaker 1: we're gonna skip all that because, I mean, come on,
48:21
Speaker 1: it's all stuff we've seen before. We know how a
48:23
Speaker 1: screen movie works. So we get down to sid and
48:25
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe like four other people, because you've
48:27
Speaker 1: gotta have some people there, so you don't really know
48:30
Speaker 1: who ghost Faces. And then she comes into a confrontation
48:33
Speaker 1: with him. Hello, Sydney, and Sydney's eyes narrow and she
48:37
Speaker 1: draws a blaster, but suddenly ghost Face moves his hand
48:41
Speaker 1: and the blaster flies out of Sydney's grib and then
48:43
Speaker 1: ghost Face reaches up and removes the mask, and we
48:45
Speaker 1: hear oh Darth Vader. Sidney asks, yes, Sydney, it was I. Um,
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Speaker 1: why asked Sydney. Well, your mom's Sydney. She was a
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Speaker 1: total tramp. She's seduced my dad and I have a
49:10
Speaker 1: lot of unresolved issues and so I needed to take
49:13
Speaker 1: them out on you, says Vader. You you don't have
49:18
Speaker 1: a dad, says Sydney. That's a mean thing to say,
49:21
Speaker 1: says Vader. No, I mean you literally don't have a dad.
49:26
Speaker 1: You were conceived by the force. Remember we found that
49:29
Speaker 1: out an episode one. It was dumb, it was awful,
49:33
Speaker 1: but it happened. It's cannon la la la la la.
49:37
Speaker 1: I'm not listening, says Vader. But by then Sydney has
49:41
Speaker 1: made her way to a big leaver that says garbage dump,
49:44
Speaker 1: and before a Vader can do anything, she pulls the
49:46
Speaker 1: lever and shoots Vader out into space. And then she
49:48
Speaker 1: turns to the pilot and says, all right, that's it.
49:51
Speaker 1: I'm done. I don't want to be anywhere in this galaxy.
49:55
Speaker 1: Set a course to Oracus. Then we get the in
49:58
Speaker 1: theme Dude Dune, do do du Dune, Dune do do
50:03
Speaker 1: du Dune, Dune do do due Dune the end for
50:10
Speaker 1: those who don't know Iracus is in Dune. Um. Also,
50:15
Speaker 1: I really like your sound effect for Fraser for Candle. Jonathan, Yeah,
50:20
Speaker 1: thank you. I used the Frasier for Candle. Uh can
50:24
Speaker 1: Tar's gonna hate me because she's gonna say, you know,
50:26
Speaker 1: I could have just overlaid a digital effect on your voice.
50:31
Speaker 1: There was no need for you to actually do that.
50:33
Speaker 1: And I'm going to say, yes, I do know that
50:35
Speaker 1: because she's awesome, But so are you, Jonathan. Thank you.
50:40
Speaker 1: So that's all we have for you today. If you've
50:43
Speaker 1: got ideas of there's really nowhere to go after that,
50:50
Speaker 1: you gotta well again, like like I skipped all the
50:53
Speaker 1: murder parts. Listen, I do the same thing. It's so
50:57
Speaker 1: much easier to write right at the beginning in the
50:59
Speaker 1: end than the middle. Um, unlike Marvel where they write
51:02
Speaker 1: a good beginning middle and then there's ending a cookie
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Speaker 1: at her end. Um. But I did, I really enjoyed it.
51:09
Speaker 1: That was quite fun and dissimilar enough. Yes. So yeah,
51:14
Speaker 1: if you guys enjoyed these mashups and maybe have an
51:17
Speaker 1: idea of how you would mash up Star Wars and
51:19
Speaker 1: scream like is Amadala ghost face? Um, she's certainly pale enough. Um,
51:25
Speaker 1: then write us and tell us how can they do that? Jonathan, Well,
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52:05
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Speaker 1: and one other I'm going to plug one other thing
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Speaker 1: arial and that is well two things. I'm gonna plug
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Speaker 1: two things. Thing number one is that today as this
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Speaker 1: episode comes out, uh, my episode of Thirteen Days of
52:37
Speaker 1: Halloween goes live. So Thirteen Days of Halloween is a
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Speaker 1: horror anthology series. There is a narrative that goes throughout
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Speaker 1: the entire series. My episode is episode ten, so you
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Speaker 1: could go back listen to all of them. I recommend
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Speaker 1: doing it. They're fun, creepy ghost stories makes me think
52:54
Speaker 1: of like the kind of ghost stories you would tell
52:55
Speaker 1: around the camp fire, that kind of thing. It's done
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Speaker 1: in three D audios. You need to listen with like
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Speaker 1: headphones on, and it's really effective stuff that way. And
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Speaker 1: it was a blast. It was a real pleasure to
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Speaker 1: be part of that show. So that episode is up now.
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Speaker 1: You should check that out. And the second thing I
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Speaker 1: want to plug is my little baby sister who's just two.
53:15
Speaker 1: She's just two years younger than I am, but she
53:20
Speaker 1: is one of the puppeteers who puppets a character in
53:22
Speaker 1: the latest episode of Doom Patrol. So if you're watching
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Speaker 1: Doom Patrol and you see the puppets in the most
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Speaker 1: recent episode, the one that goes live today, then that's
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Speaker 1: one of those is controlled by my sister. And I'm
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Speaker 1: just so proud of her. So I wanted to just
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Speaker 1: give a shout out to Amy. It's super awesome. You
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Speaker 1: are awesome, Amy. Uh. Well, that wraps it up until
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