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John Smoltz’s BIG idea to boost the All-Star Game, Braves woes · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: At some point, we got to level off and move
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  Speaker 1: towards the act of what you're supposed to be doing
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  Speaker 1: as a starting pitcher. That's all I'm saying. So that
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  Speaker 1: if we can train guys to stay healthier, this would
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  Speaker 1: be great, even if it was only five innings.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Hall of Famer John Smoltz with us
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  Speaker 2: now on foul Territory eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: Later eighteen eight team guy eighteen.
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  Speaker 4: We just had Ken here eighteen and you're skipping your
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  Speaker 4: you're skipping your eight end?
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  Speaker 3: Was this here?
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  Speaker 1: Is that why the cushion is soul?
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  Speaker 4: That's why it's so fluffed up, And you're skipping your
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  Speaker 4: start next week for your eighth so you get to
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  Speaker 4: fill in, yes, with an All star replacement?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Perfect, Yeah, you enjoy it. You enjoy your week off.
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  Speaker 1: Next week? No, actually, next week, I am working.
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  Speaker 3: Are you working on Saturday?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? I'm I'm leaving the Hall of Fame to
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  Speaker 1: go do the game?
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  Speaker 3: Really? Where are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: What's game?
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  Speaker 1: Boston, La? Really?
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  Speaker 5: Which game is yours?
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  Speaker 1: Rets?
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  Speaker 5: Cubs?
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  Speaker 3: That's this week, that's I'm talking this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this weekend I'm off?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah's All Star game? On much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little much.
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  Speaker 3: I had to drive from home. I didn't get my
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  Speaker 3: thirty six holes in Sey.
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  Speaker 1: This is my pictures. Don't show up to the All
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  Speaker 1: Star Game? Another one?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we should start there. What do you think about
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  Speaker 2: the is it's going to be a massive storyline. Of
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  Speaker 2: course we're excited to see him pitch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but played for.
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  Speaker 3: A long time.
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  Speaker 5: You know that deal.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of elements that went wrong and he's
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  Speaker 1: not one of them. It's not his fault, but a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people contributed for it even to be a
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  Speaker 1: situation that we have to discuss. Five or six pitchers
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  Speaker 1: opted not to be here. That seems to be the
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  Speaker 1: new thing. And you can understand it. You can make
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  Speaker 1: an argument with all the injuries and the way the
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  Speaker 1: game is played and everything else. What what what It
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  Speaker 1: is very difficult as a former pitcher, is that to
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  Speaker 1: think that there is not other worthy candidates is where
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  Speaker 1: the discussion gets awkward. And it's not his fault. He
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a dynamic, great pitcher. We've just
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  Speaker 1: never seen this, you know. And I think if you're
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  Speaker 1: a pitcher and you're playing all first half and you're worthy,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to feel slighted. You're going to understand some
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  Speaker 1: components of it. But to me, I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: can just say it's the one reason why this is wrong.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons that contributed to why it's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Would which leads me to my next question one, you
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  Speaker 3: would have never skipped if you were able to pitch right? No, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I figured that knowing you and your competitive as you
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  Speaker 3: always wanted to be out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But then, second of all, because of things like this
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  Speaker 3: and even schemes last year with only eleven starts, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a lot more than five? Right, should they stop using
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  Speaker 3: All Star games? And I've had this conversation with rosendalvar
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  Speaker 3: Ditch yesterday. Should they stop using Hall of Fames for
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  Speaker 3: or sorry, all Star games for Hall of Fame credentials?
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  Speaker 3: If they're just you know, there's seventy nine All.
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  Speaker 1: Stars this year. That's that's a lot of that's like.
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  Speaker 3: Ten percent over ten percent of the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of All Stars.
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  Speaker 3: So oh, you get an All Star game, and you
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  Speaker 3: get an All Star game because all these players are
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  Speaker 3: opting out.
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  Speaker 1: So is it? Is it?
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's cheapened it, but has
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  Speaker 3: it lessened the aura of I'm in a Major League
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  Speaker 3: All Star.
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  Speaker 1: You can make that argument and be a strong argument.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I went to eight. I went to seven,
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  Speaker 1: I was selected to eight, I got hurt, and it
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  Speaker 1: went on the IL. I think the game and the
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  Speaker 1: idea of the game has changed from the expectation of
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  Speaker 1: the player. A lot of things have changed that take
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  Speaker 1: it away from where it is an honor. It should
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  Speaker 1: be an honor. It should be based on your resume,
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  Speaker 1: and now you can get selected and not even go.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, look, I'm going to be the old
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  Speaker 1: guy on the law and if I keep saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think the All Star Game, and you've
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  Speaker 1: heard me say this, I am one hundred percent confident
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  Speaker 1: all the discussions would go away if we had a
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  Speaker 1: World versus USA All Star Game. I've said it for years.
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  Speaker 1: Hockey just went through it. It exploded. I don't watch
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  Speaker 1: a lot of hockey. I didn't miss one second of
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  Speaker 1: that All Star I didn't. I thought it was compelling.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was incredible. Guys were playing hurt, Guys
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  Speaker 1: missed the second half of their season because of that.
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  Speaker 1: With that comes that expectation that you are showcasing the
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  Speaker 1: greatest athletes on our planet, and we would have a
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  Speaker 1: roster that you could talk about on both sides that
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  Speaker 1: you could go, I don't know who's gonna win now.
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  Speaker 1: Is the World Baseball Classic the reason we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to that? Yes, it could be, it could, But the
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  Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic has its own unique other countries that
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  Speaker 1: other players aren't in the current system that we have.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, if you have me, give me
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  Speaker 1: a chance to put a USA jersey on you gotta
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  Speaker 1: I gotta have a broken arm to now want to
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  Speaker 1: put a jersey.
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  Speaker 3: That's four Nations Cup that. Remember the Kachucks versus was
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  Speaker 3: it Russia or Canada? They dropped the gloves and fought
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  Speaker 3: right absolutely and everyone the next game, everyone, the whole
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  Speaker 3: everyone was watching.
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  Speaker 1: But they think that, but saying that we still have
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  Speaker 1: the best All Star game of any sport, Yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: not even We're not. We're not. I'm not saying this
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  Speaker 1: is not a great game. I'm saying that to your
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  Speaker 1: point on the amount of players and the amount of
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  Speaker 1: change to get ready for this game. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: look at two days leading up because so many things change.
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  Speaker 1: You could be working on it, you know. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of discussion every All
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  Speaker 1: Star game about players picked or not picked. That's never
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  Speaker 1: going to change. But I'm just I just think that
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  Speaker 1: USA versus World eventually is going to happen. Scott, You
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  Speaker 4: You would have to still pick the All Stars, so
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  Speaker 4: it couldn't just be the best American players versus the
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  Speaker 4: best world players, because then it would just like guys
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't make Allso why not?
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  Speaker 5: Why not?
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  Speaker 4: Because then you're then they're gonna be like, well, should
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  Speaker 4: Trout be in based on this year?
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  Speaker 1: Trout shouldn't be. I think you're still picking the All Stars,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt. I think there's a bigger.
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  Speaker 4: Wilson is your starting shortstop for the American team. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's where I think it would you would lose
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  Speaker 4: kind of the All Star like aspect of wow, he
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  Speaker 4: was a three time All Star, he was a two
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  Speaker 4: time All Star.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of thing. I think for a change of pace,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great change of pace. I'm not saying it
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  Speaker 1: stays that way. I just think it's a change of pace. Look,
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  Speaker 1: they tried doing home field advantage to it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's things you can do, and everybody's trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out in other sports how to do it. But the
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  Speaker 1: choices that other sports have had to make, they just
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  Speaker 1: canceled theirs because it wasn't working. And so I'm just
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  Speaker 1: thinking for a change of pace, a one off. I
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  Speaker 1: think it would be a phenomenal showcase from an international
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  Speaker 1: flavor that we have in our sport to what the
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  Speaker 1: USA could put together.
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  Speaker 2: Has it been discussed, because I don't know, are you
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  Speaker 2: during the rules committee?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but has it been discussed? You know, people you
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  Speaker 2: could throw it out there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I'm not afraid to throw anything until somebody says
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  Speaker 1: stop throwing it out there. But I think there is
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  Speaker 1: definitely interest that won't The WBC is still going to
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  Speaker 1: take precedent, and I get it. The difference is you've
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  Speaker 1: got guys in their prime conditioning, ready to go now
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  Speaker 1: versus what that tournament. To your point, you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to get certain people in that tournament. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: a bigger issue here that we don't deal with as
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  Speaker 1: a as an entity and as an organization, and that's injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Until we start dealing with that until we start looking
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  Speaker 1: at baseball and seeing why do we keep doing the
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  Speaker 1: same thing over and over again and not even think
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  Speaker 1: about prevention of injuries as being a competitive advantage. That
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  Speaker 1: has to be at the fore front. That has to
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  Speaker 1: be something that organizations Major League Baseball. We can't keep
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  Speaker 1: turning our head going it is what it is. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: gets in trouble when somebody gets hurt. People get in
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  Speaker 1: trouble when they're era, or their velocity dips or any
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff. People get hurt. Shucks.
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  Speaker 5: Can you incentivize teams on that front?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's going to be coming that that rule change
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  Speaker 1: is coming. But what I'm shocked at is why, in
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  Speaker 1: all of our analytical world that we live in today,
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  Speaker 1: with all the competitive advantage that you want, and let's
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  Speaker 1: just say it's only two point five between the last
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  Speaker 1: place team and the greatest team of analytics, it's not
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  Speaker 1: that big a gap anymore, Why isn't somebody trying to
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  Speaker 1: zig when everyone else's zagging is saying we're going to
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  Speaker 1: start having a competitive advantage by keeping our guys healthy
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  Speaker 1: no matter what happens. And over time, I would argue
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  Speaker 1: you're going to gain a bigger advantage than if you
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  Speaker 1: just say, hey, this team had a bunch of injuries,
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  Speaker 1: we got lucky one year, Like this is not something
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  Speaker 1: you're escaping and I'm shocked at ten years this has
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  Speaker 1: been going on that nobody in an organization says we
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  Speaker 1: are going to reinvestigate, reinvest in different commodities in different ways.
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  Speaker 1: To see these three pitchers that I have as studs,
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  Speaker 1: I want them healthy next year or I want them
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  Speaker 1: healthy in the next two years. If you're put in
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  Speaker 1: charge of that, what's the first thing that you implement.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing I'm implementing is getting away from all
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  Speaker 1: the information that's driving the training to just max effort.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting away from it. I'm not going to be
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  Speaker 1: obsessed by it. If you have the ability to do it,
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  Speaker 1: use it wisely. Don't use it every single time you
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  Speaker 1: have to go into the minor leagues and go, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want you empty in the tank now every
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  Speaker 1: single pitch. I don't want you to throw one hundred
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  Speaker 1: miles an hour. But guess what in the sixth inning,
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  Speaker 1: when you want it, do it. That's the difference. And
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  Speaker 1: when you're addicted to something, you're going to keep wanting
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  Speaker 1: that addiction. If you're addicted to velocity, you're on it.
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  Speaker 1: You can't stand looking at a guy that can pitch.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't fit the model. It's like that guy's going
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  Speaker 1: to give up eight one day, so what, so what
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  Speaker 1: he's going to pitch thirty five times? He might have
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  Speaker 1: a three point nine era, so what? You don't want
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  Speaker 1: five of them? But you got to have some sprinkled
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  Speaker 1: in that give you the stability to go. That guy's
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  Speaker 1: not getting hurt unless it's freakish. But why are we
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation going? Man, these guys are there, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, they're the greatest arms I've ever seen. And
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  Speaker 1: but what is the narrative? When's he getting his? When's
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  Speaker 1: COMMI John coming for this guy? No one has escaped it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what blows my mind. Like everyone that wanted to
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  Speaker 1: beat me up and cut my legs out ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: they're the ones not saying a word right now. They're
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  Speaker 1: the ones saying, oh, I can't argue with them because
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  Speaker 1: he's been right. And but yet they're they can't do
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  Speaker 1: anything about it because they don't like getting away from
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  Speaker 1: what that model spits out. And when you throw a
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  Speaker 1: baseball and you and you turn your head and look
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  Speaker 1: at a computer. There's something inherently wrong with that because
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  Speaker 1: that's driving the reward system, that's driving what a player thinks,
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  Speaker 1: and it takes away the athleticism and the ability for
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  Speaker 1: him to be great over a long period of time.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the problem with that, And I agree with everything
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  Speaker 3: you just said. One, it starts in the youth. Is
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  Speaker 3: even the youth. Now, my high school, my Sun's high
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  Speaker 3: school has all the all the information, every picture. Oh
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  Speaker 3: how hard was that one? What's the vert what's the horizontal?
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  Speaker 3: It's all there for every and every tournament they play
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  Speaker 3: in has all the information. So you got to get
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  Speaker 3: rid of it there, which is or you use it differently,
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  Speaker 3: which I think people need to be educated to use
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  Speaker 3: it smartly.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And then the minor leagues are also a problem. The
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  Speaker 3: minor leagues is the minor leagues are set up. They
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  Speaker 3: get every Monday off, they play six game series. Pitchers
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  Speaker 3: from high school college minor leagues pitch once a week,
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  Speaker 3: starting pictures. Then we call them up here and say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, you're pitching every fifth day.
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  Speaker 1: They've never done in their life. It's a bad reward system.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard this argument until I'm blow in the face
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  Speaker 1: that it's a youth problem. It is not. It's a
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  Speaker 1: major League Baseball problem. They're creating the youth problem. It's
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  Speaker 1: the reward The only way you get signed is you've
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  Speaker 1: got to have these metrics. And if that's the reward system,
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame a kid, I don't blame a high school.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame an academy just getting the most they
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  Speaker 1: can out of an eight year old. The problem is,
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  Speaker 1: if we don't change our reward system, none of this
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  Speaker 1: is going to change. So when you lose pitchers, pitchers,
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  Speaker 1: guys who know how to pitch that don't even get
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  Speaker 1: looked at, you're going to have this conversation for a
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  Speaker 1: lot longer. The reason we're sustaining it at this level
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  Speaker 1: there are so many guys who know how to throw
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  Speaker 1: a pitch hard, that don't know how to throw it
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  Speaker 1: anywhere close to the strike zone. They're going to be
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  Speaker 1: giving those chances over the guy that. Mark my words,
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  Speaker 1: when I'll give it three years, when the generational three
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  Speaker 1: year pitchers, the great guys that we know, are going
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  Speaker 1: to call it career here in the next three years.
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  Speaker 1: You're never going to see him again, the Verlanders, the Kershaws,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Wainwright just retired. You're never gonna see Charlie Morton,
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  Speaker 1: You're never gonna see Zach Wheeler. Like that, to me,
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  Speaker 1: should be the narrative that organizations are going. Man, we
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  Speaker 1: got to find a way to reverse this narrative because
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  Speaker 1: that commodity is getting shorter and shorter and shorter, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to replace it more and more.
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  Speaker 2: My only thing is from an incentive or a punishment perspective,
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  Speaker 2: How can you do it with injuries? Isn't it easier
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  Speaker 2: to do it with starters giving length?
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  Speaker 1: See, it's more to do with I'm not even I'm
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  Speaker 1: fine with five innings. How about that. You've never heard
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  Speaker 1: me say that, I'm shocked, But those five innings, let's
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  Speaker 1: just say that. Guys could never pitch over five innings
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  Speaker 1: ever again. They still can't stay healthy. It's not an
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  Speaker 1: inning problem.
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  Speaker 3: We've cut innings and pitches and everything way down every year,
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  Speaker 3: and guys still get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: This is a trainable. This is not impossible to do.
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  Speaker 1: What's impossible to do is train for max velocity and
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  Speaker 1: max spin and longevity. It's just impossible. We think we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna maybe this is fair or not. Nolan Ryan and
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  Speaker 1: our generation was a freak. They're supposed to be freaks.
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  Speaker 1: They're not supposed to be twenty of them. There's not
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be genetically thirty Nolan Ryans. Would you argue
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  Speaker 1: that there's at least thirty potential Nolan Ryans are more
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  Speaker 1: in the game today that have been manufactured that are
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily freaks. And I think that in and of
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  Speaker 1: itself when I look at the whole history of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, regression of innings, regression from nineteen hundred to
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  Speaker 1: where we're at, at some point we got to level
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  Speaker 1: off and move towards the act of what you're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be doing as a starting pitcher. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So that if we can train guys to stay healthier,
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  Speaker 1: this would be great, even if it was only five innings.
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  Speaker 2: We love the slab pack situation because rolling through a
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: ton of cards, physically opening them, finding all kinds of
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: commons that end up folded or in the garbage is
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: old news. Why not get a slab pack and get
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: a chance at a card worth thousands of dollars.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I was a common card. It's okay if you don't
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: get me in your slab pack, because you put as
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: little as twenty five dollars into for a slab pack,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: and you could pull out something that's worth thousands of
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: dollars and it's a keepsake that you get to like, wait,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: you know what, it might be worth this much today,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: but I get to watch the value grow.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And right now, you can get twenty percent off your
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: first slab pack or card purchase by going to Arena
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: club dot com slash foul and use the code foul.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: That's twenty percent off your first card purchase or slab
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: pack at arenaclub dot com slash could foul. That takes
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: us to the last topic, which is the Brave since
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: they're hosting this whole thing and it's awesome.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Obviously the battery is the gem of the sport.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Really for owners who want to create something like this,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: they're missing almost their entire rotation.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so what are you seeing that's wrong with them this?
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Obviously they're not hitting well, either.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: The thing about the Braves, you couldn't ask for a worse,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: greatest year ever in twenty twenty three, Offensively, they set
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: every record. They set the bar so high they signed
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: six players that everybody was going to keep going like
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: this in the trajectory. It doesn't work that way. You
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: guys know that it doesn't. So the expectation offensively was
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: going to carry this ball club with timely pitching and
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: good starting pitching, Well, that offense has not even come
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: close to what twenty twenty three is. So that inconsistency
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and their inability to cover the starting rotation now, which
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: was awesome, by the way, really good. That with the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: combination that inconsistency, that's why you lose close games. You know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: everyone wants to figure out how does a team one
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: year win a bunch of one run games and then
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: next year doesn't, Like, how does that work? Well, if
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you've got some flaws in your club, you're not gonna
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: win a ton of one run games. That's how it works.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: And is it a model to live by. No, But
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you see the teams that win the one run games
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and the ones that don't, and it's pretty obvious you've
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: got to have a little bit better consistency in certain
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: areas that show up as a weakness.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Last one in that division. You like the Metal the
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Phillies better.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I said from the whole part of the season. This
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: is gonna be up and down. They're going to switch
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: spots at least twenty different times. I don't think any
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: one of those teams run away from it. This has
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: been the streak. I feel like I'm repeating myself because
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the last three years I said the same thing. This
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: is one of the streakiest seasons I've ever seen where
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I can't believe, like the Dodgers lose seven in a row,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox at won ten in a row, the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Twins won whatever ten.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Or the Ruders won seven in a row just now too,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: and they're back in it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: To me, this is the streakiest. I don't know if
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it's the imbalance of some teams in the schedule and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: when they're playing them, the injuries take a place. I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: would have a hard time picking a winner right now
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: out of the East, but it's definitely coming from one
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of those two teams, that's safe to say. And I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: think from the central balance there, the West shouldn't. I mean,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: until recently the West was looking like we were all
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: thought that the Dodgers were win by double digits. So
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: there's flaws on every team because of injuries and because
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: of lack of pitching. But then you've got some surprises
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like the Detroit Tigers, where you go, come on, now,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: no one thought there'd be a double digit lead at
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the All Star break. Credit them what they did last
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: year and what they're doing now. They got a little,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you know, beat up over this. I always look at
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the week before spring, the All Star Game and the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: week after. Watch the teams that either lose or gain
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the most games in those two weeks, and you'll see
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that movement drastically changed. Because it's a it's a it's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: a tough week for teams. Players are tired, Some are
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: going to All Star Game, are like man, all Star
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: breaks almost here. You can't let off the gas, you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And some teams really pick up a lot of games
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: in those two ten in that ten day spent.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Tigers got swept by the Marinders heading into
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the break just now right, Yeah they're a good team,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: but still they didn't look like Them's.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Not the way I'm impressed with the jim nasium that
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you guys are using while you're doing this show all
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the time. All the time. We just it's like a
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: two hour show and then we just go lift. It's awesome.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: That's why we're not good putters and golf.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, we know him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: It's worked with me quite a bit. I would I
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: would be I would be remiss. We just hung out
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: with Andrew Jones. He was here yesterday. You know, different
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: guys have run through here in Atlanta. Where do you
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: rank yourself on the echelon of wouldn't have to buy
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: a beer if all the Braves guys came into the
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: same bar.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, if they all came in the same bar, Well,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I don't drink, so that they're not going to buy
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: me too many drinks. Pay for your time. I would say,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: as much as this pains me. And he's a neighbor,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and I play golf with him, and I really don't
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: like making him feel even bigger than he is. Chipper
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Jones probably is one. He's He's yeah, okay, then are
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you second? I don't know if I'm second. I like
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to think I'm in the top three or four of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the guys that live here. But if you're talking about
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: everybody coming back that don't live here, then that changes.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Like nineties braves you're talking about, I'm talking about nineties braves.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: But I also have to throw in Frank cor Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I know you're going to say Frank Corn. I was like, SEEZ,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: don't say that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I wanted you to say. Here's how it works now,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and we all get there. If I go to a
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: convenience store or gas station and there's a young person
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: working behind the counter and there's an older gentleman behind
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: me freaking out, the young person goes, why is the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: older gentleman freaking out? Should I know who you are?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I said, how old are you? Twenty five? No, you
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: don't know who I get. It's twenty nine and up.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And that's even risking it. So it's generationally the older
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: people they they still they still kind of know the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: bald head and all that, but the younger ones are like, eh, okay.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: So it depends where you go in, and it completely
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: depends on where I go.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Right, if they're watching Fox, that that doesn't hurt. But
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Well, it's only on you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you're on TV for less than a minute flash. Thankfully
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: for me, it's only a minute.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: But hey, I say this, and I had this conversation
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: with the Fox people yesterday. The producers love for the
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: live for the open, yeah right, or us, It's like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: this is the worst minute our day, right because we
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: put all this time in and Nope. If you ask
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: all these people here and you go, do you know
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: what the open is in a game?
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: They have no idea.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: No, And the is the producer's lifeline.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, we gotta nail the open.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, nobody, nobody's turning on or off the
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: game because of what you say in the open exactly.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: They think that everyone know you have to talk about
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the stars, which is great, but that's it opens over Jagg.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: It comes off.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: That's because you can script that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I remember when I just to do games with Faulty
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: and like you would talk more in the production meeting
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: or just as much about the open as you would
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: about the game itself, which is the three hours after
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: that and I started to change my tone.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: I'm like, let's just chat for a few minutes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: That's really what it's about. Even if you make a mistake,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: everyone wants to be perfect. I'm like, hey, it's you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: live TV. It happens.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: But the but where the open becomes, to your point,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: where the producers really love it is when whatever you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: speak in the open happens immediately in the game and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: then you can earlier we talked about and but you're right,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like it's a flash, it goes by and you just
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: hope you don't fumble too many things, give you.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: A strategy, and something happens in the game that that's
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the producer's year, that is their year, so you have
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to play into that. But it's folty, good to see you,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: thanks for stopping. Good set up, guys. Yeah, we'll can
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: see you guys in August too. We are Yes, we'll
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: talk about that. I'm very excited about that in August. Yes,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: some big news that we'll announce sooner. H m hm