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Lazio making surprise push for the Scudetto! - Ep. 319 Ft. Biazale · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Here on the couch, guys, we're a lot more friendly
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  Speaker 1: than Luciano Spalletti and Fabio Pizzicani. We give nice handshakes
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  Speaker 1: to each other, despite us being on different teams. With Gianni,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nicolas. Adriano, once again, not with us tonight. But
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  Speaker 1: we are joined by our friend, actual friend, Biagio, from
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  Speaker 1: Di Laziale.
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  Speaker 2: Biagio, how's it going?
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  Speaker 3: Good, good. How are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 4: I have a freshly shaved head. Look at that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But before we start the show, tell the audience what
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  Speaker 4: you did. Because I know you have your big social
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  Speaker 4: media presence and whatnot. And I think it deserves its
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  Speaker 4: own little separate shout out. So you used to have
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  Speaker 4: really long hair just for the podcast listeners. You had
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  Speaker 4: super long hair. And now it's a nice buzz cut.
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  Speaker 4: Why did you do it?
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  Speaker 3: I wanted like a reset because I was talking backstage
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  Speaker 3: with Nick about it. And just my hair was just
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  Speaker 3: really bothering me. And yeah, I was just like, you
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  Speaker 3: know what? Let's go for it. And then I said, oh, but,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like when you cut it off, it's just
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  Speaker 3: going to go in the garbage. So I'm like, OK,
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  Speaker 3: let me think. And I remember my friend did it
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  Speaker 3: like back in high school. So I'm like, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: Let me find something I could donate it. And then,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I went to the thing. I have my
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  Speaker 3: hair and then, you know, someone could turn it into
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  Speaker 3: a wig. Someone was battling cancer. So, you know, at
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  Speaker 3: least it's like. I do what I have to do
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  Speaker 3: and it goes towards a good cause. At least I
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  Speaker 3: can put it towards something. The only thing, honestly, I
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  Speaker 3: was worried about wasn't the cut. It was just like,
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  Speaker 3: because I had long hair, I never knew what the
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  Speaker 3: shape of my head looked like. If I look bad
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  Speaker 3: with it, you know, but everyone so far has been
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  Speaker 3: saying it has a positive reactions. So yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's a nice fresh start. I will say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in terms of personal hygiene, it's way easier to maintain.
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  Speaker 3: It literally takes like two seconds when I get out
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  Speaker 3: of the shower for it to dry. So, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's one of the things. And, you know, with all
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  Speaker 3: the stuff I do, it's nice to have my hair
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  Speaker 3: out of my face. But I'm not going to keep
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  Speaker 3: it like this. I'm going to try to, like, grow
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  Speaker 3: it out more. But I was telling Nick, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think I'll ever go back to long hair again. We'll
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  Speaker 3: see down the line.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's like, you know, like, I can't speak on
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  Speaker 4: behalf of Nick, but for myself, you know, it's like
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  Speaker 4: when I was losing my hair, I'm like, please just
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  Speaker 4: have a normal shaped head if I'm going to go bald.
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  Speaker 3: That's the only thing I was worried about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I will say I'm colder, though.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah i need to start wearing hats bro my head
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  Speaker 4: gets so cold i didn't realize how much my hair
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  Speaker 4: was protecting me but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah wear hats it you know it's funny what even
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  Speaker 1: uh jenny i remember you telling me many years ago
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  Speaker 1: uh when you start balding shake you know grow a
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  Speaker 1: beard and shave your head and that's uh that's what
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  Speaker 1: i did so yeah when we start losing the losing
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  Speaker 1: the hair.
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  Speaker 3: Do this oh no yeah i'm not gonna be one
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  Speaker 3: of those guys that hangs on to three hairs it's
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  Speaker 3: it's gone I'm going to start investing in some toques,
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  Speaker 3: some beanies. We're going to go, we're going to go
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  Speaker 3: for it. I have a couple, but they, I never
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  Speaker 3: really wore them that much just because of my long
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  Speaker 3: hair too. But yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Couch guys, you could follow us on all your favorite
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  Speaker 2: Guys, we know a lot. Biagio is the Lazio fan.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, first of all, I will apologize to
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  Speaker 1: Lazio because he, You know, at the beginning of the season,
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  Speaker 1: we do our predictions. And, you know, I think we
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  Speaker 1: talk so much shit about Lazio. You know, I said
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  Speaker 1: Gattuso was going to be the first coach fired. You know, even,
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  Speaker 1: you know, going through our top 10 teams, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I had Lazio near the top 10. You know,
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  Speaker 1: heading into the season, they just, no one expected them
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  Speaker 1: to be in the position that they're in. And now
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  Speaker 1: here they are in second place, two points off. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: tied for first.
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  Speaker 2: With Inter. Two points ahead of rivals Roma. Five wins,
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  Speaker 2: one draw.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're one of four teams that haven't lost yet.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a really positive start for Lazio, obviously. Six games,
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  Speaker 1: still a lot of soccer left to be played. But Biagio,
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  Speaker 1: what are you making of the season up until now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first off, I take no offense to anyone's predictions
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  Speaker 3: because I thought we were going to finish 13th. That
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  Speaker 3: was my prediction. Wow, okay. Yeah, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: think people saying that we're going to get relegated, I
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  Speaker 3: think that was a bit of an exaggeration. At the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, we're still Lazio, everyone chill. But
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  Speaker 3: I thought we were going to finish mid-table. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, everyone that was apologizing or sending me DMs,
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  Speaker 3: I took no offense because I'm like, I didn't even think...
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  Speaker 3: We were going to do this well. And I did
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  Speaker 3: agree with you that I thought Gattuso was going to
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  Speaker 3: be the first manager sacked. Now we know it's the
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  Speaker 3: coach of Venezia. And it's crazy, too, because everyone thought
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  Speaker 3: because of the transfer window Fiorentina had that they would
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  Speaker 3: be like in the top for Europe and we would
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  Speaker 3: be at the bottom. But it's the reverse. Fiorentina are just,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not doing well at all right now. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, listen, people are also still going to give criticism.
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  Speaker 3: They say that we haven't played any good teams yet.
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  Speaker 3: strongest team we've played so far is Milan, but Hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you can only play what's put in front
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  Speaker 3: of you. And I guarantee you all the wins you're
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  Speaker 3: seeing Lazio getting last year, those would have been losses.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you now they would have been 100% losses because, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I just find that we just have this mentality now to, uh,
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  Speaker 3: to always just find a way to get the job done,
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  Speaker 3: even if the performances are not that good. And, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to quote, uh, Allegri from like 2017, he
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  Speaker 3: said that Scudetto, the Scudetti, every Scudetti is won by
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  Speaker 3: beating the Cagliari's and the Empoli's and the Lecce's and
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  Speaker 3: all that, you know, those gritty results. And look, do
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  Speaker 3: I think we're going to, you know, you know, contrary
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  Speaker 3: to what the title, the title of the podcast says,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to win the Scudetto if
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest. I think realistically now Europe,
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  Speaker 3: any sort of Europe is expected to But hey, you
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  Speaker 3: know what? I'm just going to enjoy it while it lasts.
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  Speaker 3: If we drop off, we drop off. If it keeps
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  Speaker 3: going well, you know? If you told me at the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of the season in August, you'd be like, you'd
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  Speaker 3: be in first place tied with Inter. Of course, I
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  Speaker 3: would take that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I believe it's... So here's my personal take
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  Speaker 4: of it. Because I kind of saw the same thing
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  Speaker 4: when Napoli got Catuzzo back in the day. Back in
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  Speaker 4: the day, my God, it's like six years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Where.
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  Speaker 4: he basically is that motivator in the dressing room and
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  Speaker 4: he's able to rally a team together and just get
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  Speaker 4: them to push and perform because that year he helped
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  Speaker 4: Napoli win the Coppa Italia versus Juve and penalty shots
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  Speaker 4: and stuff. Do you feel like, I think that's my
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  Speaker 4: personal theory, what he's doing in the Lazio dressing room.
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  Speaker 4: Do you feel like it's probably the same situation where
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  Speaker 4: he's basically just getting into, despite Lazio's financial struggles because
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  Speaker 4: of like being handicapped with the, you know, with, with their,
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  Speaker 4: not saying that they're poor, but you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Like the limitations that they have and whatnot, that he's
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  Speaker 4: able to just make like, like lemonade out of lemons,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, for lack of a better term with this
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  Speaker 4: kind of squad.
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  Speaker 3: Or do you think it's something else? I, uh, I
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  Speaker 3: spoke about this, uh, on another podcast, but, um, one
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  Speaker 3: thing I, to be honest, my, my in general answer
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  Speaker 3: is I have no idea what he's telling these players.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing I do say that I actually, a
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  Speaker 3: guy did a video on, um, was the way we
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  Speaker 3: build out the back, which is we just keep two
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  Speaker 3: center backs and we push everyone up regardless of what
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  Speaker 3: the other team they're attacking, their front three or front two,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is. And what we will do is we'll
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  Speaker 3: keep those two center backs, push everyone else up. It
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  Speaker 3: forces someone to compress the center backs or the goalkeeper, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And then it creates a large gap between that back
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  Speaker 3: line and the center of the field. So all it
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  Speaker 3: takes is one or two passes to get out of danger.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what's helped us build out the back and
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  Speaker 3: what's helped us create chances and score. That would be
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  Speaker 3: the tactical.
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  Speaker 2: Aspect of it.
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  Speaker 3: Other than that, I have no idea how we're doing
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  Speaker 3: this well. Because, you know, like you said, we've been
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  Speaker 3: struggling financially. Our team is pretty mediocre on paper, if
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest. We haven't really made Anything crazy, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: with the exception of Fratezzi, he's been outstanding for us.
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  Speaker 3: But everyone else has been the same, you know, like Nuntavar, Taylor, Zaccani.
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  Speaker 3: Zaccani is the same player. He just, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: he just completely changed now. Now he's actually scoring. He
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  Speaker 3: went almost a year without scoring a goal. He's scoring.
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  Speaker 3: He's assisting. Same thing with Noslin, you know, like I
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  Speaker 3: think we're riding the momentum. But, hey, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: I'm here for it. even though we know, obviously, with
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  Speaker 3: the Azzurri, Gattuso was awful. And just in general, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he's a good coach. But, hey, it's working,
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  Speaker 3: so we're going to keep doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this past weekend, coming back from the international break,
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  Speaker 1: 3-1 win against Monza, like you said. You know, these
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  Speaker 1: are the wins you need to pick up if they're
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  Speaker 1: going to challenge, you know, maybe not necessarily Scudetto, but
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  Speaker 1: at least top four.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Tavares scored right away, third minute, and then
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  Speaker 1: Isaacson in the 23rd. And Pinamonte finished it off in
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  Speaker 1: the 88th. About this game specifically, what did you make
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  Speaker 1: of it? And specifically after a two-week break, it must
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  Speaker 1: be good to see them score three minutes into the game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. It was also a rocket for those
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  Speaker 3: who saw the goal. It was an absolute rocket from Nutavash.
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  Speaker 3: His first goal for Lazio. uh he likes to try
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  Speaker 3: from far and like 99 of the time it goes
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  Speaker 3: into the stands but this time he rifled it in
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  Speaker 3: so what a way to get your first goal uh
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  Speaker 3: but overall like you know we dominated we were all
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  Speaker 3: over them we're at home it's monza It's pretty much expected.
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  Speaker 3: The only criticism I gave in my video was that
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  Speaker 3: there was a 10-minute span at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 3: second half where they actually almost came back into the game.
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  Speaker 3: They were down a man. We were up by two
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  Speaker 3: at home and they scored and then almost scored again
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  Speaker 3: in the space of 10 minutes. They scared us for
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  Speaker 3: 10 minutes and we gave them a lifeline back into
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  Speaker 3: the game when Normally, when you're down 2-0 and you
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  Speaker 3: have a red card, it's kind of like GG's. But we,
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  Speaker 3: you know, of course, you know, typical Lazio have got
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  Speaker 3: to scare me a bit. And then after, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they were like, psych, and then they went back to
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  Speaker 3: normal and dominating. So that was my only criticism, because
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  Speaker 3: if we do that against a stronger team, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to punish us. So that was my only criticism. But overall,
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  Speaker 3: what I made of the game still, you know, another
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  Speaker 3: day at the office, job well done. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Jenny, I actually wanted to, I'll take the next one
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  Speaker 1: because I wanted to bring up this weekend's game, Juve-Lazio.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what are your expectations, Biagio? Because I'll get
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  Speaker 2: mine after.
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  Speaker 1: What are your expectations for the game?
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much, it's a big game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, looking at Lazio, who they've played so far
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  Speaker 1: this season, they have the one draw against Milan versus
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  Speaker 1: all five wins are against bottom table, mid-table teams.
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  Speaker 2: So, This is a real challenge for Lazio.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, proper test.
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  Speaker 2: It's a proper test. So what do you expect?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I say this with being blunt and honest.
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  Speaker 3: I think it'll be a close game, but I think
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  Speaker 3: we're going to win. Personally, Juventus doesn't scare me anymore.
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  Speaker 3: They don't strike fear when you see them on the schedule.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're playing Juventus at a very good time,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm going to be honest. Right now, you guys
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  Speaker 3: are kind of in this weird, buffer zone, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Spalletti doesn't really know what he's doing. It's all, it's,
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  Speaker 3: it's always a different lineup. So if I have to
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  Speaker 3: choose a time to pick to play versus Juve, it's
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  Speaker 3: probably now. So, yeah, I think even though I don't,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's almost 10 years, we haven't beaten you
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  Speaker 3: guys at Interim. It's still, I have, I have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of confidence going into it just because like I said,
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  Speaker 3: your guys are kind of wounded right now. Also like
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  Speaker 3: keep in mind, We played our game. We're resting. You
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  Speaker 3: guys have the Europa League as we're recording this tomorrow. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's another positive. Obviously, you know, at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, Juve is still Juve, but it's just,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean this in the most respectful way possible. Like,
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  Speaker 3: there's clearly been a downfall. This is just not, this
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  Speaker 3: is not Juve's standard. So I feel like this is,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to capitalize on that opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even from, obviously, my point of view, it's,
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  Speaker 1: I'm nervous. Usually Lazio is a team that when we
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  Speaker 1: go away to Lazio, there's been a lot of losses
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  Speaker 1: in pretty much this decade. But it's a different story
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  Speaker 1: when Lazio comes to Torino, like you said.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was 10 straight years.
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  Speaker 3: 2017, I believe, or 2018 was the last time that
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  Speaker 3: I can remember. But that's the thing. The other times,
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  Speaker 3: it's not that you've always beaten us. It's been like
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  Speaker 3: a draw or something.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 3: But still, you make a good point about that.
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  Speaker 2: No, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And like you said, with Juve, I'm going to bring
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  Speaker 1: up the game against Cagliari this weekend. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they played bad. Honestly, I think they played well. They
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  Speaker 1: created a lot of chances. Their problem, once again, I
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  Speaker 1: sound like a broken record on the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's the finishing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know Colomani did score, but between him
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  Speaker 1: and Voltimane at the end, Juve should have won. They
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  Speaker 1: should have won. They should have put the game away.
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  Speaker 1: Colomani had other chances. That's what your number nine is
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  Speaker 1: there to do. He's not there to score one goal
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  Speaker 1: a game. If he has an opportunity to score a second,
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  Speaker 1: he has to score a second. So that's what was
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  Speaker 1: frustrating in the Caleri game. So for me, Juve's result
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  Speaker 1: this weekend depends on can they finish their chances or not.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like if they don't finish their chances,
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  Speaker 1: Lazio is going to come back the other way and score.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no. And I respect the way you described it
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  Speaker 3: because I spoke to a lot of Juve fans and
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  Speaker 3: they were more complacent saying, oh, Cagliari, they're annoying and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, but why are you complaining? Like, what
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  Speaker 3: do you think Cagliari's game plan is? Like, this is
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  Speaker 3: how it is. Pichacani, that's the style, the tactic he plays. Like,
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  Speaker 3: why are you shocked by it? Whether they're mid-table. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: they're actually doing really well. Obviously, they're in a top
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  Speaker 3: four position at the moment. But, like, I was telling
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  Speaker 3: my friend, I'm like, but why are you complaining? Like,
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  Speaker 3: you're playing Cagliari. If you were playing, like, Roma or something,
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  Speaker 3: I would understand. What do you think, Cagliari is going
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  Speaker 3: to play free-flowing attacking football? No, that's not their game plan.
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  Speaker 3: Cagliari did. They knew you guys are better. And they
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  Speaker 3: do what they always do. They play to their strengths.
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  Speaker 3: They get under your skin. They play a low block. Like,
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  Speaker 3: that's what it was. You guys set them up perfectly. Fortunately,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Koulamwani saved the day. But them being up
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: 1-0 is like their bread and butter. They're going to
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: sit back. You know how Cagliari is. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you guys had several chances to punish them. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's more on you. And Cagliari, that's what they do.
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  Speaker 3: They bank on you guys making mistakes and scraping away wins.
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  Speaker 3: And for them, like Cagliari tying you guys is massive.
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  Speaker 3: Like for them, that's huge. So, you know, they did
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  Speaker 3: what they had to do.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly. Exactly. Well, just also to tie upon that, you know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Cagliari is leading Serie A right now with the least
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: goals against, which is only three goals right now.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: You guys are second with only four. You're tied for
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: second with only four against. It's just interesting because you
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: started off with the whole fact that Gattuso just leaves
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: the two centre-backs back and just lets everybody just, you know,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: push offensively and whatnot. Do you think it's just like...
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: But yet Lazio still maintains just only four goals against
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: so far in Serie A. Do you think it's one
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: of those type of scenarios where a bizarre world happens
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: where the best defense is a strong offense? You would
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: say that, but then they're not the most offensively producing team,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: not in a negative sense.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: It's just.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Do you think maybe it's a ball possession thing that's
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: just working out for them?
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. That's a good way to
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: put it. Gattuso's not really known for his not really
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: known for any type of tactics to be honest, but
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I think that's what helps is, is instead of relying on, like,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like Saudi was, was obviously Saudi ball and stuff,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: but I feel like we were relying on counterattacks and stuff,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: but Gattuso, I find it's the opposite. Like I explained
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: with the, the move, building it out the back. I
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: think that was the, I don't know what about it
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: is making it work, but also have to give a
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: big shout out to Mandas. Our keeper has been absolutely phenomenal.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and has saved us a lot of times. I'm not
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: going to lie. Even the Venezia game, we won comfortably,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: but at the beginning, Venezia could have easily punished us.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's our offense, though. I feel like
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: as a unit, we just play well together. If you
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: look through Lazio's scores, it's always a different person every time.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like everyone just kind of helps each other out.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: It's not like a Roma where it's like Mal and Dybala,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Mal and Dybala every time. We have a different scorer
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: each time or a different assister. So That's how I
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: would say it. But we did bolster our defense. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: think just I just think it's a case of like
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: everything's kind of working out. You know, when things work out,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: it just it just keeps building. The momentum is is strong.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: But even even if you notice, like even last year,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: despite the fact that we were we were practically almost
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: mid table, we had one of the best defensive records
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: conceded the least amount of goals. It's just we would
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: we would lose like one nil. instead of getting smashed
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: like 3-1 or something. And also that would be the
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: best answer to your question, I guess I could say.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: So then it's something that's a continuation of last year
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: is just building up. I think.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We never really could see it a lot of
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: goals last year. We just lost a lot of games,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: 1-0 or 2-1. Like that's pretty much what it was.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: But now they're leaning towards results, which is nice.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Which finally getting results instead of choking, you know, like
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: instead of drawing Udinese, we, we, We were down 1-0.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: It's always those random Monday games. We played Udinese at
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, down 1-0. And then, boom,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: in the space of 10 minutes, two goals in the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: 80th minute, 2-1, and we win the game. Like, that's
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: what it was, getting the job done.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Moving away directly from Lazio, I want to talk about
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Champions League. You know, talking about Lazio, they have the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: goal for Champions League next year, but I want to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: talk about your current Champions League because all four Italian
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: teams lost.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I have to pull up the scores. I think it
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: was 4-3.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Successful hate watch.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, Johnny, we were, you know, me and
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Biagio were talking beforehand, like, I don't mind. You know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Juve's not in it. All four teams lose. I don't mind.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You know, no Juve, no party, right? What was it?
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: 4-3 for Roma. They blew a 2-3 against. Yeah, it
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: was 3-1.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It was 3-1 at the 82nd minute too. Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Inter lost at home 4-3 to Club Rouge. Villarreal
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: beat Napoli 3-1 in Spain. And then Como today was,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: was it 3-2?
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: But that one, I wouldn't say it was an embarrassing loss.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Como put up a good fight and Leipzig just came
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: out on top. I don't think Como necessarily played bad.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: It wasn't embarrassing like the other losses.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say the Roma one is probably the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: biggest one.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Napoli did it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I was like getting updates and stuff and I was
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: just super hyped because you know, life of a teacher,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: you're tutoring and stuff after fucking school. And anyways, long
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: story short, I'm like, yeah, nice. 3-1 versus Real. This
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: is amazing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: It wasn't just 3-1. Like, Roma made Real Madrid look
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: like garbage. They made them look like a leche or something.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: They were horrible. And I'm there, and I'm like, is
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: this Mbappe? Is this Bellingham? Like, where? These guys look
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: like a shell of themselves. And then in the space
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of literally we're talking 10 minutes maybe, boom, just flipped
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: on its head. I thought they were going to get worse.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: They took off Vinny Jr. They brought on Guler. They
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: brought on Hendrick, which they haven't played in so long.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: And it was just like a switch flipped. You know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: we always say two goal leads are the most dangerous
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: lead in sports. And I thought, okay, maybe Real Madrid
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: will tie. And then it was 4-3. I was like, wow.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I was happy. I was celebrating, like, last report. Especially
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: that it was Rudiger, of all people, to score the game-winner.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one that kind of, like, gets... I
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: didn't celebrate.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: So, respect to him, you know. At least he didn't celebrate. But,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: my God, that was crazy.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just the one that's like, holy shit, out
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: of all players to get the game-winning goal. It had
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: to be Rudiger, you know what I mean?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't even, like... I wouldn't even say, like, oh,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: you felt it coming. Like, you felt it, that Real
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Madrid were going to come back. Nothing.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Up until the 80th minute, I was like, wow, you know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: props to them as much as I can't stand them.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: You know what? They get a good job. They silence Mourinho.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: And then that's why you never count out Real Madrid, man.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Even when they play bad, they still win. You know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: that's what champions do. And they're 2-0. 2-0, they beat
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Inter the first match day, and then they beat Roma.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: So it's what it is.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just in your DNA.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: It literally is, yeah. That's what it is.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: You know the Chiellini meme? It's the history of the Tottenham.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: It's the history of Real Madrid, yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: But in a positive way.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: In a good way, yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Because I would even say this is the history of
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Roma because Roma has come back many times versus teams
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: in Champions League. You know, like, you know, the infamous
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Barcelona game. You know, it gets... It's just... This one
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: was just, wow. That's just... It is what it is.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because no one expected it because it was... It
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: wasn't like a Romo or winning three, one and real
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Madrid looked better. They were going to come back. It
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: kind of, it literally just was an instantaneous comeback that
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: everyone in the stadium, just their job was on the floor.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I know fast Roma collapsed. Like it was in this,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I was, you know, like Gasparini was just looking there,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: like what just happened? Cause right. He's taking off his players.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Like he started taking off the good players. Okay, we
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: can rest them for, I don't know who they're playing
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: in the weekend. I was looking at the bottom here,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: whoever they're playing. But I think it's Genoa. So, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I think that was Gasparini's plan. Not to say that maybe,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: like people say they got cocky. I mean, it's tough
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: to say.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I think it's just, it was a lesson learned. I
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: think that's what it was. I think it's something where it's,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's cockiness. It's just like, If you
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: really want to start playing with the big dogs, you
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: got to know what it takes to play with the
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: big dogs.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: The big dogs, it's like until minute 90. Until that
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: right blows the whistle, it's not over.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: So that's the way I saw it. That's to me
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: what it spoke. Which is something that I also spoke
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: at the start of the season. Nick could be my
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: witness where it's like Roma was doing very well. It's
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: like I want to see the mental fortitude of this team.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: If they're really going to try to be like the
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Spadetto push type of team, right? I don't... I want
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: to see what it's like when it comes to the big...
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: When they play against the big teams. Because like you said,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: with the whole Lazio situation, it's like, oh yeah, Lazio's this,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: but did they play against the strong teams? Roma also
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: didn't really play against these gigantic teams. They tied Inter.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: But even in that Inter game, they had a 2-1 lead.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: They should have won.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: They should have won. And they also blew the lead
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: of that game too. So it's not something that's unheard
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: of for this squad. And it's something that now... Now
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: you got... Like against Inter, you guys held out. You
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: held out, right? But now against... Real Madrid, you got
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: burnt hard. Take this as a lesson. There's a fundamental
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: issue with defending the lead, and you guys need to
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: figure that out now.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I think what also is like I noticed when they
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: were up 3-1 and it was past the 80th minute,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: he took off Mancini. He started taking off his regular guys. Mancini,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I think it's because he had a yellow and he
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: knew because he was getting under Mbappe's skin like you
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: saw it. And Gasperini's like, this guy's going to get
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: sent off if I don't take him off. But I noticed, like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: they fielded weaker players because they thought maybe, okay, these
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: guys are going to hold it out. But clearly not.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Clearly he had to keep guys on. I mean, Dybala,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: he had no choice. You know, a typical Dybala, again,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: he's injured. But, you know, it's like, ugh. It's, you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: for the neutral, I was happy. I don't stress this enough.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I'm trying not to, like, make it sound like I'm
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: sad for them. I don't care.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I was okay.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Happy because i was like god like real madrid man
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: like do something you're real madrid at the end of
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the day sitting there with his long face complaining like
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: my god you have such a star-studded team like do
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: something and you know thank god he he woke they
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: woke up at the end but also a big part
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: of it like if you notice most of the goals
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: were corners like roma cannot defend corners i don't know
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: what it is two of the goals cross header goal
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: bro the What was it? The game tying goal, not
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: the winner, Endrick. We're talking Endrick. This guy's like five
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: foot seven, jumped over everybody in the box and scored.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I think it also, like I think you just said
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: it perfectly before, it speaks volumes as to what Mancini
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: has been doing with the roster and in terms of
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: the squad, like Mancini, the player, Gianluca Mancini, like how much,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: because like many years ago, I said Mancini's got a
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: maturity issue. I even compared it to Brad Marchand in
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: a sense where he knows how to blur the line
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: and get under your skin and be not only a
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: quality player, but an effective player mentally. And I'm like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: unless this guy manages to mature in that aspect, he's
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: just going to be a problematic player. And as of
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: late throughout the seasons, you saw the growth, you saw
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: the growth, and you saw the growth. And I'm happy
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: that you brought him up because I think that was
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: the X factor. where it's like you lose Mancini in
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the back, you lose your general, you lose the guy
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: who's helping out that line. Sviar being injured also doesn't
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: help either.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: That's the other thing I was going to bring up.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Because you don't have a guy who's going to cover
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: up the mistakes anymore. You don't have that keeper.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: He's more of a rapper now. And listen, I cannot
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: stand Gianluca Mancini. I think he has the most punchable
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: face of all time. But I will give it, I
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: agree with you. And you don't have him in your
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: back line. For the Azzurri, I never want to see
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: him play. But with Roma, I don't know what it is. Like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: if he didn't have that getting under your skin, like
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: he's a very smart defender, I think he should be
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: like a– like pure defender-wise, I just don't even think
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: he's that good. I think he's like Serie B level.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: But it's the aspect of it that he gets under
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: your skin. And like he had Mbappe red to the face,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: screaming at the ref. Like he's very smart. He's a
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: little conniving little rat. That's what makes him a good
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: center back, not his actual defensive capabilities. And, like, you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: now we saw it in this game. Without Gianluca Mancini
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: in that back line, you know, you can clearly see
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: that Roma struggled. Obviously, there's also Ndika. But, you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: clearly maybe, like, it's tough to say. Obviously, Gasperini took
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: him off because he had a yellow. Now, we're talking
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: like this. If Roma won the game, we wouldn't be
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: talking about it. But was it the right call to
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: do that in a game like that where he could
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: have had a red? You keep him on? Would you
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: have kept him on? Or would you have been like, nah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: it's smart what he did?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I think, honestly speaking, with 10 minutes left and whatnot,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you're up by two. It's not stupid. I don't think
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: it's just, holy shit. It was just more like this
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: was the absolute worst case scenario and it played out.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: That's what, that's what it was. This game would have
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: made headlines. Roma beats Real Madrid. Like, yes.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like this, this was like, especially that Daniel Malin
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: got a dopyeta. You know what I mean? Like it's,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: it's now that's going to be overshadowed, but overshadowed, overshadowed
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: by a hundred percent.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Like no one's talking about, cause Malin had a fantastic,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: he almost scored a hat trick. It was offside. Like
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: we're now that Malin performance completely overshadowed by the fact
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: that Real Madrid came back and yeah. Real Madrid were
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: garbage all game. We're talking like just 80 minutes of
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: pure trash. They lock in for 10 minutes and it's
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: as if everyone forgot about what Roma did. It's like
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: you said, worst case scenario happened because, you know, little
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: kid was crying in the stadium. I was crying tears
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: of joy. I was so happy. You know, like, my God,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: they must have been, you know, in just complete shock.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't stop there because obviously because of the
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: international break, they got Champions League again the week after.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: It doesn't stop because of the thing. So now Roma,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: this is where I was seeing. I'm not trying to
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: be biased because I can't stand them, but this is
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the real test for Roma. Now it's like, okay, well,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: no one cares. Sunday you have a game or whenever
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: they're playing, Saturday, Sunday, and then it's back to Champions
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: League again. And keep in mind, they still got to
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: play PSG in Paris. They still got all these guys.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Keep in mind, Roma have not played Champions League football
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: since uh before COVID like we're talking Europa League Europa
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: League Conference League they're making these deep runs it's cool
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: and all but this is uh you want to play
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: with the big dogs this is what it is.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Uh how about Inter guys uh last eight games in
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Champions League they've won one they dating back to last
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: season um dating back to last season was they lost
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to Atletico uh Liverpool, Arsenal, they beat Borussia Dortmund. And
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: then they lost twice to Bodo Glint in the knockouts.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And then this year, I mean, they lost to Club Bruges.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I forgot who their first game was against.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: It was Real Madrid.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: But even that game, they lost themselves with that Curtis
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Jones mistake in front of the net. So it's getting
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: so bad now. Shout out my boy Provadel. At least
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: he's going to play now because they took him from us. Apparently, Martinez,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: it was so bad. I was able to catch the game,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: but apparently it was so bad that now they're thinking
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: of putting in Provadel. over Martinez. So, um, I don't
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: know what, what interest problem is. Cause we all look,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: we can all agree. They have the strongest lineup in
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the city. Ah, they got a fantastic squad depth. I
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: don't know. Uh, maybe Kivo is getting exposed in these
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: big competitions.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I think personally, I think that the five, nothing lost
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: in the champions league final broke them.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Cause that was a year and.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: A half ago. And they've won four champions of.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: The game since, uh, It's unacceptable for their standards. Yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: They won five Champions League games since losing 5-0.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: We're talking five in a year and a half, you said? Yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Last year's Champions League, last season's Champions League in this one.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Exactly. And we all know Inter, especially at the San Siro,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: it's like a fortress for them. They never lose like that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: And you said the scoreline was 4-3, but for people
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: that watch the game, The majority of the game, it
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: was actually 4-1 for Club Brugge. But then after Inter
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: came back to make it close, but there was basically
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: the majority of the match, it was actually them in
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the lead over Inter. Now I have some Inter fans,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I know for that why they want Kibu sacked. I
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: think it's a bit exaggerated, like Inter will figure it
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: out eventually. I just, I have no words for what
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: they're struggling with because they should win. they have the
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: recipe for success. They're a fantastic team.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, Johnny, I don't know if you had other, uh,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: topics you want to talk about other things in the city.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Uh, at this point, I'm just like, uh, Oh, your
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: reaction to the Napoli, the good team though. Yes, but
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: that's not like as if Napoli doesn't feel quality either.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: You know, it's, it's just, it, I don't know what
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: can I pinpoint the problem is. If the issue is
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: just the dressing room just not buying into the Legatee system.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Is it just the players are just not giving a fuck?
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? It's complacency. I don't know
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: because the lineup that was fielded wasn't a horrendous lineup.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: You could say 95% what their starters are going to be. Oliveira.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Not playing as big, you know what I mean? Like, uh,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: just kind of hurts a bit, but all of you
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: are at the end of the day is, you know, not,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: not the X factor of, of the roster, you know, for,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: for them, it's the midfield and the midfield did not
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: show up for them today. Um, it hasn't, not today, yesterday. And, uh,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: the midfield itself is also just like, like the season
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: is just, it's, I wish I had an answer for it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: So it's just, uh, I shout out to, uh, uh,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: A former guest on the show, Daniel Russo, I think
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: he said it best on Twitter. He's like, when you
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: have the guys that have been on the team for
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: five plus years, go for a cleanup. He's like, do
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: what we did three years ago in 2022, where you
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: sold so many players in the transfer window that was
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: on the team for five plus years. And you just
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: basically rebuilt a new core of players. And that's what
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: he thinks that should be done. And I can't fully disagree.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: um i think maybe there should be clean up with
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: some players that are getting complacent on the roster because
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: they've just been there for so long and um you
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: know get rid of you know maybe it's time to
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: move on from the lorenzo maybe it's time to move
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: on for politano.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say politano i think it's uh i
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: think it's time.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: But which is so weird because there's there's there's like
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: times where politano is like doing phenomenal like he he
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: won't score but he gets like those chances he gets
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: those plays in and there's times where it's like okay
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: this guy's burning like he's burning his defender. Like, he's
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: able to do it in those times where it's like, Tano,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: what the fuck are you doing? You know what I mean?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: What's this guy up to, bro? What's he doing?
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Like, there's games where he's on fire and there's games
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: where he's having brain farts.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Like, it's just, I.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Think that, I don't think this is the roster that
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: would work under Allegri. I think that Di Laurentiis hoped that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: you know, like, like I explained on a previous episode,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you know, like how Juve did a Conte to Allegri
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: transition and it just still worked out. You know, it
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: still worked out for Juve. They still want Scudetti after that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Like I think it was four straight or five straight,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: whatever it was.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: That's the team though. That's the team.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: But that's the thing. At the end of the day,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: he still had the BBCB backline, you know, the Bonucci, Barzaghi, Chiellini,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Buffon backline that just helped them out.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Like you had a foundation from the back up and
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: then you had Dybala and Higuain that were just like
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: phenomenal together, you know, like it, Whereas, you know, Napoli
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: doesn't have that crazy defensive structure in the back end.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: You have, like, a good goalie. I mean, decent goalie sometimes.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: He's okay.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: He's above average. You have that solid midfield. Your strikers
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: are eh. Like, sometimes they're good. Sometimes your strikers aren't
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: your best players. And then you're... You know what I mean? Like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: it's just your midfield.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: So, like... Like Allegri, it's like, okay, cool, you want
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: to hire him, that's fine. But you don't expect it
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: to be the same results like last year.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I don't even know why you guys hired him, to
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: be honest.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know why either. I don't know what it was.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: You literally had Vincenzo Italiano ready to sign. Especially a
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: guy that Allegri literally talks shit about you guys. It
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: boggles my mind. comparison saying that Allegri was good with
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: you because of the team yes but I think you
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: guys are good enough to compete I think you shouldn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: have not went with Allegri not that the team doesn't
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: suit him the team should be suited for a better
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: coach not Allegri yeah so but also give props to
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Villarreal like I expected you guys to lose because I
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: just their system they have a very good team like
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: overall a young team three Canadians in the team by
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: the way so shout out you know we're from Canada
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: here so good for them One of them from Montreal, from,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: from Montreal Saliba, but still like, you know, you got
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: to give props to Villarreal as well.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So, if you had the chance to watch the game,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: but what was it like seeing, you know, Montreal against Napoli,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: then Daniel Loise scoring as well.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Canadian scoring against Napoli.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: It's, I don't know. Like, it's like, it hurts, but
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: it doesn't hurt.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Like, we like to see that our Canadian boys eat,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Like, It was cool seeing them. Imagine a guy from
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Montreal and he's playing in the Champions League. It's so
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: cool to see Montreal represent.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's basically you lose out on one agenda, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: another agenda gets filled out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: That's essentially what it comes down to. I was really
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: hoping for better results because, you know, This is why
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: you bring a guy like Allegri. I think also one
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: of the reasons why that you choose Allegri over Italiano
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: is because not only does Allegri have the titles, even
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: though he had a really good team, he also did
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: it with Milan. But it's also the fact that Allegri
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: has managed in a Champions League setting. Italiano has brought
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Fiorentina to Europa League finals, but... I mean, Allegri has
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: lost the Champions League finals, but I think that's what
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: it comes down to.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's the same Allegri. Like, I don't know.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: I just, no, I, and I agree with you. I would,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I'm on your side. I'm, I'm on your side. I
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: would have rather Italiano rather, rather a younger coach with
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: more dynamic or more of a flair to, to utilizing,
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: utilizing a team versus Allegri's Cortomuso. Like I, I never,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: and right now I'm having a hard time pinpointing the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: exact situation or issue with Napoli, but now it's getting
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: beyond the, uh, sooner than later point. And it's like, no, no,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: now it's like extremely sooner or later, or else you
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: guys are just gonna, you know.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Especially with the whole league phase thing. Like last year
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: was just unacceptable for your standards to not even make
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: the knockouts off thing and just get completely wiped out. Uh,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously there's still another six games to go.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: A lot of, uh, You guys still have to play
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: those scrappy teams at the bottom. Not a great start
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: to be 0-2. Even that Arsenal game. I thought you
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: guys played really well, man. And we're talking about Arsenal.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: You guys did a good job. You just didn't capitalize
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: on your chances. And then eventually Arsenal woke up. And then,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: you know, that's what it is. But, you know, I'll go.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Guys, last thing I want to talk about. Back to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Serie A. We finally had our first 0-0 game.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Comoros.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Como Roma, out of all teams, first of all, 0-0,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: only took six weeks to get the first 0-0 of
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the season. Now that the first one's out of the way,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it's like breaking the seal. How many are we having
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: this week? I'm going to say, I'm going to go
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: with four. I'm going to have to say four 0-0 games.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: First of all, Parma-Torino, you can put money in that one.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: That's a 0-0. Monday afternoon, that's the most 0-0 game.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say Giovanni Simeone just comes out of
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: nowhere and gets the 1-0 win. I'm going to go
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: with that. Okay, 1-0.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Uh, I'm going to go Venezia-Napoli. I'm going to go
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: 0-0 on that.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Gianni.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I can see that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And then Juve-Lazio. That's another 0-0 game. It's either 0-0
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: or 1-1.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I'm saying 1-1 for that one.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I predicted 2-1 Lazio, but I could see a draw.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: coming in maybe even the Frosinone Sassolo but both of
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: them are kind of decent they're doing decent so.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah that was gonna be my fourth 0-0 so
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: there you.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Go Frosinone I'd rather have 0-0 because I have what's
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: his name the keeper in my Fanta Calcio I forget.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: His name Nick Suzuki's cousin no it's not it's not
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it's not Suzuki sorry.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That's he plays for Parma you're right.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: He's at Austin Villa now yeah Dion Suzuki got loaned
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: out he got loaned out yeah Either way, we're frozen
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: on his keeper.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know his name, but I know you're talking about.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have him as my Fanta keeper side. Rather,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: that game be the 0-0.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Wow, bro. That Parma-Torino on a Monday, that's a snooze, bro.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: You put that on, you go take a nap. That
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: is such a snooze. Respect to Serie A, though. Now
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: they're putting two games every Monday. I get what they're
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: trying to do money-wise, but... But if they want to
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: make it work on a Monday, they got to put
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: a big game. You can't just put like scrap games.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you put a big game, then fans
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: are going to complain about why is this big game
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: on a Monday.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's at night though. That's the thing. In Italy,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter, right?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I forget which.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I think it was maybe at the Atalanta fans. They
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: did a Tifo Monday because the game was at 6.30
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Italian time. And they're like, oh, noi lavorare lunedì sera
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: at 6.30.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Sure, they had, I think, like, four or three back-to-back
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Monday games, though.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Atalanta, I noticed.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I know you guys got jobs in the north, but
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: come on. I'm pretty sure you could get off by 6.30.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Well, Bergamo is one of the richest parts of Italy, too.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they could go to the game at 6.30
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: on a Monday night. You know, it's not a 3 p.m.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Monday game. Yeah. Maybe I'm just being a hater.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: We know it's for money anyways.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Biagio, you're a beauty.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on tonight. You basically, you subbed on
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: for Adriano.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Make a little substitution.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Biagio's back.
• 42:16
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• 42:20
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• 42:25
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• 42:27
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• 42:31
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• 42:36
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• 42:39
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• 42:42
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• 42:44
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• 42:47
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• 42:50
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• 42:51
  Speaker 3: came on was, I think it was back in March. Yeah.
• 42:55
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• 42:57
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• 43:01
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• 43:04
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• 43:06
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• 43:08
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• 43:31
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• 43:32
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