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Episode 426 - "Lights, Sound, Action! Home Theater Add-ons that Pack a Punch!" · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, there's a Colin Machria of whose line is it?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway you're listening to tech Talk Radio. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how it works.
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  Speaker 1: It's all magical.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff to me.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Matt Jones, and I'm justin Let me. It's the
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  Speaker 1: first show of the year twenty twenty five. You guys
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  Speaker 1: had a great Christmas and a and a great New Year.
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  Speaker 2: We did. Definitely. It was It was interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I just felt like I was just
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  Speaker 4: so discombobulated this entire holiday season forgetting to wrap gifts,
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  Speaker 4: and then my mom would send gifts for Eric and
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  Speaker 4: my wife, and then I would forget which ones were
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  Speaker 4: from her versus you know, which ones were for me,
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  Speaker 4: and then and then and then and then the whole
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  Speaker 4: Santa thing, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like wow, I just yeah, it was a
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was. It was good when it all
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  Speaker 2: got done.
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  Speaker 1: You even took a little trip. You went to some
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  Speaker 1: ice thing. What what what was that all about? I
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  Speaker 1: thought that looked cut of cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was not just singing at the Gaylor No
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  Speaker 4: Cripple Creek. Oh okay, that's where we went. We went
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  Speaker 4: out up to Cripple Creek. So that's about two and
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  Speaker 4: a half hours southwest of Denver, about an hour west
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  Speaker 4: of Colorado Springs. It's right behind Pike's Peak, the tallest
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  Speaker 4: mountain in Colorado. So yeah, we went out there. That's
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  Speaker 4: where the ice castles were. That's initially what we, you know,
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  Speaker 4: went out there for. But we decided, you know, since
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  Speaker 4: it's two and a half hour drive, We're like, let's
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  Speaker 4: just stay the night because I don't really want to
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  Speaker 4: drive two and a half hours back.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was fun.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the ice castles in Cripple Creek weren't as
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  Speaker 4: nice as they were in Dylan, Colorado, which is near Breckenridge,
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  Speaker 4: but it was still interesting to go. And then you know,
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  Speaker 4: we just kind of hung out as a family. Cripple
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  Speaker 4: Creek is a big gambling town, so there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of caslos there really see. But I'll tell you the
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  Speaker 4: most interesting thing about it was we took the Tesla.
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  Speaker 4: So and I mentioned the previous show, I sold my
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  Speaker 4: twenty seventeen Ford Explorer. We got the we got my
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  Speaker 4: wife a new twenty twenty five Toyta Camri, but we
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  Speaker 4: took the twenty twenty three Tesla Model Y, which is
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  Speaker 4: now my primary vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: We took that too.
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  Speaker 4: There and we have another one of those full self
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  Speaker 4: driving trials.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, they just released.
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  Speaker 4: Thirteen dot three dot two is the version that they
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  Speaker 4: just released. And I tell you, I took it from
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  Speaker 4: my garage all the way to Cripple Creek on full
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  Speaker 4: self driving and it did not fail one bit. It
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  Speaker 4: was absolutely perfect. I had charged it to one hundred
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  Speaker 4: percent before I left. We got there, we had about
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  Speaker 4: forty percent left, which was not enough to get us
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  Speaker 4: home because obviously, you know, we need at least fifty percent.
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  Speaker 4: So that forty percent got us back into Colorado Springs
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  Speaker 4: the next day, and then we stopped at a supercharger
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  Speaker 4: and just charged it a little bit. It took like
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  Speaker 4: ten minutes to charge ith back up to like sixty
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  Speaker 4: percent and then we just took off from there.
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  Speaker 2: But no, it was great. I mean, the full self.
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  Speaker 4: Driving on Tesla has gotten so much better over the years, right,
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  Speaker 4: I love it. And as a matter of fact, we
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  Speaker 4: had a friend of ours, as a coworker of my wife's,
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  Speaker 4: that wanted to buy a Tesla. So we gave them
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  Speaker 4: our referral code. And the referral code is like you
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  Speaker 4: could earn up to one thousand dollars in Tesla credits
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  Speaker 4: if they buy a Teslas. So like, if they buy
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  Speaker 4: like the cheapest one, I think you get like two
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars. If they bought a Model s Plaid,
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  Speaker 4: which is their top of the top of the line, right,
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  Speaker 4: you would get a thousand. We got a thousand. Oh
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  Speaker 4: they bought a Model s Plaid, And I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my god.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, what do I do?
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  Speaker 4: Like, there's one thousand dollars in Tesla credits, I can't
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  Speaker 4: cash it out and take cash from it. I have
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  Speaker 4: to buy Tesla stuff with it, so I don't and
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  Speaker 4: there's not a lot to buy. So I basically I
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  Speaker 4: bought all weather mats for the entire interior and the
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  Speaker 4: rear trunk. I bought some illuminated door sills, like when
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  Speaker 4: you open the door, it shows the word Tesla.
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  Speaker 2: On the ground.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'm going to get probably six months of
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  Speaker 4: full self driving. On the way back, we were driving
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  Speaker 4: we were basically in Denver Tech Center, South Denver, and
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  Speaker 4: driving on the freeway, lots of cars on the freeway,
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  Speaker 4: and there was some complete idiot in a beat up
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  Speaker 4: old truck towing a flatbed trailer with a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: rocks that were left over from whatever they were, and
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  Speaker 4: the rocks were bouncing off the trailer and it came
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  Speaker 4: up and it and it took a tiny not a
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  Speaker 4: whole crack, but just a little nick off of the windshield,
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  Speaker 4: just a tiny, little, tiny little nick, and then it
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  Speaker 4: also hit the hood and took off a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of paint off the hood. And I'm just like, you
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  Speaker 4: gotta be kidney. So I know, because I was driving
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  Speaker 4: and I was in full self driving mode, and I
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  Speaker 4: started hearing this, you know, just little tiny things, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what's that? And I look up ahead and
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  Speaker 4: I see this guy, and I immediately took control and
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  Speaker 4: the full self driving disengaged.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Full self driving disengaged and I just floored it. But
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  Speaker 4: I tell you right now, as soon as I passed
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  Speaker 4: that truck, the people behind me, they were swerving left
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  Speaker 4: and right because that guy's car was just where the
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  Speaker 4: trailer was, just dropping rocks.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't even a load.
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  Speaker 4: It was a flatbed trailer empty, but it had leftover
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  Speaker 4: pebbles from whatever he was hauling, and when it would
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  Speaker 4: hit a bump, those pebbles would shake off. That's why
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  Speaker 4: they tell you when you're gonna haul something a trailer,
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  Speaker 4: sweep your trailer before you hit the hallway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would get rid of this stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this guy was an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. I left work the other
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  Speaker 1: day here at KGVUI and I and I remember looking
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  Speaker 1: at my tire, thinking, man, that looks low. And then
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  Speaker 1: I get in the car and I start to drive,
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  Speaker 1: and as I turn on the lock Canyata, I get
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  Speaker 1: the indicator. It says nine pounds of pressure in the
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  Speaker 1: back left tire. So I pulled over. I just said, grab,
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  Speaker 1: I grabbed. I've got a a one of those air pumps.
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  Speaker 1: They have to plug it into the back twelve vault.
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  Speaker 1: The great reacher reached that thing around and plug it
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  Speaker 1: into the tire, and it took me about ten minutes,
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  Speaker 1: but I got it back up to forty PSI and
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  Speaker 1: I thought, okay, this is gonna be good. I could
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  Speaker 1: now drive to Discount Tire because I got the warranty
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  Speaker 1: on the tires, the whole bit, and I started driving
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  Speaker 1: and I just did it really wasn't dropping that much.
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  Speaker 1: I got all the way to my discount tire which
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  Speaker 1: is on Aina northwest side of Tucson, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: they ended up patching. It was just a nail that
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  Speaker 1: was in that. But you got something that made me think,
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  Speaker 1: I wish it would have had this because it's a
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  Speaker 1: little less bulkier to carry and you don't plug anything in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I picked up this little handheld portable air pump.
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  Speaker 4: It's by air Moto, and I got on Amazon. I
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  Speaker 4: want to say it was like sixty nine dollars off
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  Speaker 4: the door, but it is. It fits in the palm
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  Speaker 4: of your hand and it's a very nice and portable.
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  Speaker 4: You can just pop out the little stem, you screw
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  Speaker 4: it into the base and then you can you can
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  Speaker 4: actually inflate any tires up to one hundred I think
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  Speaker 4: it's one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: And fifty psi. So you can just set your PSI,
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  Speaker 2: hit the button.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I like, that's start pumping, so you can tell
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  Speaker 1: it it's forty two psi. It will stop when it
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  Speaker 1: hits the forty two. When it hits the forty two.
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  Speaker 1: And this is great because I mean, like the Tesla
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  Speaker 1: is so super heavy. I mean those cars are small,
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  Speaker 1: but with the battery packs, that car is over a ton. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and to be able to inflate the tires of a
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  Speaker 1: Tesla with a little, tiny handheld device is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: How much was I also have you.
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  Speaker 4: Know Eric's Eric's little electric scooter, Our bikes, my electric
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  Speaker 4: scooter that I got for Christmas. We'll talk about that later.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, all these things. This thing for sixty nine
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  Speaker 4: dollars was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great deal. I think I bought mine that
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  Speaker 1: plugs in for forty five bucks, so for sixty's I
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  Speaker 1: like the fact that you could set the PSI and
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  Speaker 1: now I have to I had to keep like staring
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  Speaker 1: at it waiting for it to get to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So it's by air Moto a AI r m O
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  Speaker 4: t O air Moto. It's a tiny little handheld pump.
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  Speaker 4: It's really really cool.
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  Speaker 1: We'll put the link up on our website. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you've been working on something as well in your TV room,
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  Speaker 1: but so has Matt. Matt, You've kind of been doing
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, and you did something that I was
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  Speaker 1: looking at this week. But then I thought, is it
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  Speaker 1: really kind of a yeah, maybe I shouldn't get it
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  Speaker 1: soundbar technology, Ah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably lovely listeners. I can make a good comparison
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  Speaker 3: between sound bars and your traditional home theater setup in
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  Speaker 3: my basement, in our home theater room, I've got six
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  Speaker 3: speakers mounted in my ceiling. I have two tenants, so
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  Speaker 3: offers to your traditional receiver. It it is the equivalent
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  Speaker 3: of being in a movie theater.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I've had a couple of different soundbars, but we decided
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  Speaker 3: to splurge for Christmas and replace the ones that we had.
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  Speaker 3: I went to best Buy, I rated the tech Graveyard
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  Speaker 3: and traded in a whole bunch of old equipment. Wait wait, wait,
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  Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, what do you traded Yeah with
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  Speaker 3: that Okay, so I discovered this best for the past
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  Speaker 3: few years has had has had a trade in program
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  Speaker 3: what where similar to other sites? You know, it needs
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  Speaker 3: to be able to power on, run off battery charge,
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  Speaker 3: you know, preferably not have a shattered screen. Your usual
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  Speaker 3: like checklist of when you trade in a device. But
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  Speaker 3: I was trading in tablets laptops. They limit you to
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  Speaker 3: a maximum of three devices per calendar day, but I
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  Speaker 3: was able to trade. You go in and when you
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  Speaker 3: walk in, you're just like, hey, I'm here for trade in.
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  Speaker 3: So they're like, oh, okay, go talk to this guy.
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  Speaker 3: And the dude took me over to computing and it
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  Speaker 3: was you know, okay, give me the model, get the specifics,
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  Speaker 3: punch in the serial number, get your ID, they check it,
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  Speaker 3: and you just trade it in.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea they did that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't either until it was like, oh, you
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  Speaker 3: can trade stuff in towards this.
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  Speaker 2: I was like letting Eric just tear apart my old laptops.
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  Speaker 2: I should have just traded them in.
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  Speaker 5: So it and honestly, like the trade in process for
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  Speaker 5: three devices took me ten minutes.
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  Speaker 2: That is so cool.
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  Speaker 5: The the only thing you have to it has.
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  Speaker 3: It's supposed to come with a charger and cable, so
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  Speaker 3: like laptops comes with a laptop charger. In my tablets
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  Speaker 3: was a USB plug in, the USB cable. Anything that's Apple.
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  Speaker 3: You have to de register it from find my device
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  Speaker 3: and then go on a website and turn it off
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  Speaker 3: there as well. And if you go to trade in
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  Speaker 3: FAQs with best Buy, they walk you through how to
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  Speaker 3: do that.
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  Speaker 1: Laptops.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, do I have to like do a
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  Speaker 3: clean install, a factory reset. They're like, nah, as soon
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  Speaker 3: as it gets to the processing, they nuke it from orbit,
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  Speaker 3: do a clean you know, do overrites, do a clean install,
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  Speaker 3: touch it up, and then they sell this used stuff amazing,
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  Speaker 3: which I thought was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Did they sell it in store? Do they like do
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  Speaker 2: it from the online or.
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  Speaker 3: It's online as far as I know, Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's done in the store. I think they actually
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  Speaker 3: have like a Best Buy outlet site where they're selling
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  Speaker 3: that store.
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  Speaker 1: Or they would sell it as a referb probably. Oh
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of cool.
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  Speaker 3: I traded in a bunch of stuff and we got
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  Speaker 3: the brand new Sonos Arc Ultra soundbar and the son
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  Speaker 3: No sub four.
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  Speaker 2: The son No sub four first.
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  Speaker 3: Off is huge, right, like it's it and it's like
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  Speaker 3: twenty five pounds. This setup was a it was a
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  Speaker 3: little wonky. It wasn't quite as smooth as they say
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  Speaker 3: it'll be because you have to do everything through the app, right,
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  Speaker 3: But honestly, we we set up that soundbar for our
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  Speaker 3: our upstairs are our main level TV, where like I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to go downstairs for and everything on, Like,
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  Speaker 3: that's just easy place to sit watch something. That combo
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  Speaker 3: of the sons ARC and the sub four they wirelessly communicate.
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  Speaker 3: You set up a room inside the SONOSAP so you
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  Speaker 3: can control everything, and it's unreal. It's full Dolby at most.
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  Speaker 3: This sound beautifully fills the room just with the soundbar,
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  Speaker 3: no satellite speakers. I can hear sound coming at me
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  Speaker 3: from the sides, sound coming from the rear. Because when
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  Speaker 3: you finish ugging everything in and getting it together in
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  Speaker 3: the app, it's like, okay, do true tone setup. So
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  Speaker 3: you tap that, you allow it to use the microphone
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  Speaker 3: on your phone, and it starts sending out these pulse
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  Speaker 3: sounds from the soundbar and it uses that inside the
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  Speaker 3: app to be like, okay, he's sitting here, here's how
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  Speaker 3: the sound is hitting. Here's how we tune the speakers
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  Speaker 3: for all the output. It was awesome. It was like
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  Speaker 3: the old Odyssey setup for receivers. But I didn't need
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  Speaker 3: a special little mic that plugged in choose the height.
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, I sit here and I held
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  Speaker 3: it like right where my left ear would be, and
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  Speaker 3: it just went through.
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  Speaker 5: The sound is beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: The dialogue is chrisp you can differentiate all the different channels.
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  Speaker 3: Like we put on an action movie to try it out.
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  Speaker 3: We actually broke it in with a tropic thunder.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because our.
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  Speaker 3: Gen Z pseudo adoptee had never seen it. So we
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: were like, okay, we're watching tropic thunder like this. You
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  Speaker 3: have to watch this masterpiece of Robert Downey Junior and
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  Speaker 3: Ben Stiller.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, don't forget the end scene with Tom Cruise.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh man.
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  Speaker 3: Not only is the sound beautiful coming out of the soundbar,
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  Speaker 3: the sub wiffer rattles my couch.
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  Speaker 2: Behind your couch or.
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  Speaker 3: The sub wifer we have the subfer set behind the
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  Speaker 3: couch in the back of the room. And then you
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  Speaker 3: also have surround speakers to the tube satellite. No, no
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  Speaker 3: satellite speakers with this thing anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, no, it's just the soundbar. Now.
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  Speaker 3: The other cool thing about the SOS is all their
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  Speaker 3: stuff works together. So eventually I do want satellite speakers,
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  Speaker 3: and if I get I think they're the SOS Arrow
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  Speaker 3: one hundreds. You just go into the app when you
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  Speaker 3: plug him in everything and you do add satellite speakers
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  Speaker 3: and it'll walk you through the setup and it automatically
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  Speaker 3: pairs them to the whole system and it just all works.
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  Speaker 3: The sub whiffer rattles the couch and that's without even
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  Speaker 3: cranking it up.
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  Speaker 5: I am afraid to increase.
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  Speaker 2: The output on it.
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  Speaker 3: It's that ridiculous that one soundbar matches my two home
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  Speaker 3: two ten inch home theater soundbars in my basement.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm wondering, Matt, with so many people stay
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  Speaker 1: at home and watching movies like the Wait, because now
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  Speaker 1: I used to be it would take two years for
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  Speaker 1: a movie to hit cable, or you know, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: year for it to be available on DVD or Blu Ray.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the case anymore. And now we could turn
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  Speaker 1: around in three four months have a movie like you
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  Speaker 1: know that's been a great movie. Now suddenly it's available
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  Speaker 1: for you to watch at home. Does that make the
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  Speaker 1: experience better for people who are staying at home watching?
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  Speaker 1: Does this sound really enhance that?
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  Speaker 3: I think absolutely, without a doubt, it enhances it. Along
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  Speaker 3: with the so Dolby Autmos and its competitor, DTS DTS's
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: version of Dolby Utmos is DTS X. Those two are
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: they're the new audio standards for movies coming out it's
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  Speaker 3: what you're experiencing in theaters themselves. It's tuning the speakers
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  Speaker 3: to truly acoustically fill the space.
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  Speaker 5: So the soundbar.
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  Speaker 3: Traditional sound bars, the ones you know we've had for years,
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  Speaker 3: just had speakers that threw it out the front. Dolby
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  Speaker 3: autmost soundbars throw sound out the front, They throw sound
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  Speaker 3: out the sides, and they actually have speakers in the
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  Speaker 3: top angled up towards the ceiling to throw sound up
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  Speaker 3: and bounce it down. So it's actually using kind of
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  Speaker 3: like the reverb effect to simulate that full surround sound
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  Speaker 3: feel to it.
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  Speaker 1: If you had the satellites, you could put them behind you.
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  Speaker 1: They do satellites now that are wireless, right, does that
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  Speaker 1: take anything away?
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: No, honestly, there's there's zero delay and if with some
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: of these TVs. So the way you connect it is
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: via HDMI to U. For older TVs it's called ARC.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Newer TVs it's called EARC.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: ARC is the.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Audio Return channel. The E just stands for enhanced, which
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: is allowing it to utilize these new sound standards dolly
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: at moost DTSX, along with features for the TV itself
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: like variable refresh rates or the New Visual Standard which
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: is Dolby Vision, providing more robust, more bright and true
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: depth of color, truer blacks, brighter reds, cooler blues, things
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: like that. So if you're so, for example, my TV
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: upstairs is older, it uses ARC. If there is a
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: mismatch between what you're seeing and what you're hearing, you
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: can actually go into the app and do what's called
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: an audio delay setting, so you can either in you
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: can actually kind of increase it a bit so the
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: lip sync actually matches.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: What you're hearing.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: And as for the satellites, like I said, with the
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Sonos Ear one hundreds, they're wireless, so you just pair
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: it to that system, put them where you want, and boom,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: now you've got true surround sound if that's what you're
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: looking for, which is going to be a little further.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Down the road.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: It really, honestly, like when I was sitting there, I
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: was like this, this almost matches my basement entirely.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: This is unreal. And it was for a fraction of
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: the cost.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: When you say a fraction of the cost, I mean, yes,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it probably was. But so Nos just you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. Sonos is really really good quality
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: but top end are extremely expensive. They they are, and
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: there there was a reason I went this way. We
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: had a previous soundbar up on that TV when we
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: first kind of configured that room, and it was just
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: like a simple visio like two point one, a wireless subwhiffer,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: your traditional soundbar that just threw it out the front
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: and it was.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Plugged in via the optical cable.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Well, at one point we were using that room more,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: so I was like, well, if we're gonna use this more,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I want to enjoy it more.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, we have the uber set.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Up downstairs, but sometimes it's like I just want to
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: sit on this couch and watch something and be done,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: food's coming, whatever. So I bought a high Sense Dolby
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: at Most soundbar with two wireless satellite speakers and a
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: wireless subwarfer, and I got it on sale. It had
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: good recommendation, but a couple of days in I started
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: to notice an issue with it where we'd be watching
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: something and the display on the front of the soundbar
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: would display software cleared. And it turns out that that's
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: aknown issue and there's no fix right now. High Sense
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: isn't doing anything for it. There's no firmware update, there's
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: no way to fix it. And what happens when that
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: software is cleared is it deletes the pairing with those
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: rear satellite speakers and the sub wiffer. So you've got
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: this great sound and then all of a sudden it
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: gets really really tinny and you have to go back
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: and manually put all those speakers back into pairing, manually
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: put the subwiffer back into pairing mode. And sometimes it'd
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: be like, okay, I'm gonna pair.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: With the subwiffer. The subwoffer is good.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what about the satellite speakers now they said
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: some things. I don't want to talk to them right now,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: so I'd have to go through the whole process again.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, my record was doing it four times because
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I paired it and it was like, all right, I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: got the subwiffer and the left satellite speaker.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I'm like, we're not there yet.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Do it again, satellite speaker on the right and the
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: cub wuffer. I'm like, we're not there.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: All right, how about both satellite speakers.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: And not the subwarffer. I'm like, dude, this is not
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: a negotiation. I am going to yeet you into the
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: wall unless you.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Work this time.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: So when I was talking to my wife about replacing it,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: she was like, if you're going to replace it, replace
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: it with something that works that's not going to frustrate
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: you so we can actually enjoy it and that's going
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to last for like five to ten years. Like, well,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I know what brand I'm going to. And yes, it
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: was expense to the Subwiffer plus the soundbar together is
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: to be honest, it's around sixteen hundred dollars. I was
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: able to do that right now because I traded in
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: enough stuff to basically.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Get the cell buffer for free.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: The thing is like anything else with tech, you get
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: what you pay for because.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: The high sense I got it for two hundred and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: twenty bucks and I was like, adobey Atmos soundbar for
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: two twenty sign me up.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: No, No, it doesn't sound like it was a good deal.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering. Okay, So quick question. You watch Tropic Thunder.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: What is the best movie to watch with a great
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: sound system at home? Because I have one that's one
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of my favorites.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Justin, says top Gun. I'm gonna say Dune Part one
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: or Dune Part two.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have seen either of those. Oh, you're breaking
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: my heart, Andy, I saw the original. The original was sting.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: You know you've not seen Top Gun.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Oh I've seen Top Gun. No, I haven't seen any
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of the.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I was about to just be like, you know what,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm out.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: We would both quit right there, just be like, well, kids,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: this show's rapping.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Early one.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I liked Raiders the last art. That's a classic. Oh
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that's a great movie.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: With John Williams soundtrack in the background.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: The thing about Dune Dune two is Dune Part one
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and Part two are both phenomenal movies there. I have
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: my issues with some deviation from the source material, but
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I'm a purist. But the sound matches the visual scope
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: of that movie, which I think was really important. There's
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: this one great scene in the almost like really early
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: in Dune part one where you see the Guild Trade
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: starship way up in orbit around planet Kaladan, which is
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: home of our protagonist Paula Trds.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: There's this big hollow tube and you see this EIGHTYBT
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: little white dot come out of it. And then the
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: next scene we are on Caladan and we see this
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: little white dot landing, and that white dot is bigger
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: than a house man.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And you see this thing landing and like the base
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: is shaking the room, the music is swelling, and it
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: just provides this amazing sense of scope.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: You are meant.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: The shot is meant to make you feel small. It
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: is made to make you realize that there is a
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: scope and magnitude in this universe that our brains cannot
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: comprehend yet. And the music and the sound matching that
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: is us a chef's kiss. If you really want to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: kick in his sound system and be like, all right,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: let's see what this has got. Put in Dune part one,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: put in Dune part two, crank it up too. They're
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: summoning a soundworm with something called a thumper, and the
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: bass it like when you the thumper hits and you
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: feel the base, You feel that bass in your chest.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think maybe you could enhance a Hallmark movie?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: That I can get a little bit.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: The only thing that could enhance a Hallmark movie is
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: a flamethrower to burn the Hallmark movie down. Yeah, oh, indeed,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: you've been down this road before. Please don't make me
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: pull out the heavy flamer and take you apart.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: All right listen, we're gonna take another quick break. We'll
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: come back coming up in just a bit. I want
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to talk about Justin's setup. He's changed something. If you've
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: been watching the video, you've noticed it. We're gonna talk
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: about how we did that. You did the same thing
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: pretty much, Matt, and I think a lot more people
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: are going to be doing that. Make your home a theater.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Why not. We'll be back with more of tech talk Radio.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm Justin.
• 23:09
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• 23:11
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• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Will be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: So I also took on a project, you know, over
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the holidays. I had a white elephant gift exchange and
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I ended up winning a professional quality dart board. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: think I talked about that one of the shows. Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: it's a bristle board dart board with you know, steel tips,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and I put it back in the corner over there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: But with that position where it's at, it was really
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: close to my old Kasa TPI Kasa led lights and
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the Japanese lamp that we had. And Lisa was like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I really don't like this, and I'm like, you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: this gives me an idea.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So I.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Went out and I actually purchased the whole setup, the
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: go V TV LED lights. So there's LEDs all around
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the back of the television and then what they call it,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I think it's called dream theater, right, and you can
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: connect other lights. So I bought these little LED lamps
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: sit off to the side of the television and they
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: also connect to the GOV LED lights on the back
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: of the TV. Now you're probably wondering, how does the TV.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: How do the LEDs know what's on the television To
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: change the light on the top of the television.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: There's a little camera that sits on top of the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: television and looks down at the screen. Oh wow.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: And then you calibrate it and you tell it where
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the positions are of the screen, so then it knows
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: when and where to change the LEDs. Not only do
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I have the behind the TV LEDs and the side lamps,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I've also got two new LED lamps that are going
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: to be coming in that I'm going to put on
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: the back walls that are also going to connect to
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: dream theaters.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: So basically the.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Entire room will change color with what's based on the television.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So now you're watching and say you're watching a movie
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and the scene is darkness and it's like, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like Predator or something like that, Right, sure the colors
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: will kind of correspond.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if it's.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: A dark scene where it's like basically black on the television,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the lights will actually dim all the way down to
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: a very very fine white dim just kind of more
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: of like a background filler kind of thing. But it's
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: very it's very very small. And then it doesn't matter
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: if there's fast action on.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: The screen or what.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: This thing keeps up within I want to say, it's
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: it's probably it's probably within about twenty to thirty milliseconds.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't detract from what you're seeing. I mean,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I would think, like you're watching a movie, maybe it
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: would be detracting, but it's not.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: The first like five or ten minutes or so of
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: watching something, I was kind of like, wow, this is different,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: like you know, but once you get once you get
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: into it, it is just absolutely perfect and it really
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: enhances the overall theater experience. I would say, you don't
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: get this in a in a regular movie theater. You know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: they they they just turn off the lights. You know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: you don't get all the extra I like to keep
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: our room dim for movies. But then Misa, she's like, hey,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: it's too dark in here, so to have this extra
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: led behind it adds extra light to the room. And
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: now she's totally cool with having the lights off.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Say you're watching Ocean's eleven, which takes place in Las Vegas,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and I think they're working on a brand new one
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: as well. But when the Vegas lights come up, do
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the lights kind of on your your gov kind of
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: correspond to that absolutely.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Like if if you're looking at like the Billaggio on
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: the left side of the screen, the left side of
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the TV, and this left lamp will start flickering and
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: doing stuff and then versus the right whatever, it'll it'll
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: match exactly what's on the screen.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Oh that is so cool. Now, Matt, you did something similar,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and it was around about the same time that Justin
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: was doing his.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I I did so kind of What also led to
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: replacing the sound bar is I was visiting my parents
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: for the holiday for Christmas, and you know, my first
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: stay there, my dad was like, Hey, we're looking at
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: replacing the TV in the soundbar. Would you mind going
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: shopping with me and show me what I need to get?
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: It's like, sure, are you sticking about the same size?
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, like a sixty five inch
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: TV because I have an old school, like big old
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: hutch style entertainment center, which limits the size of the
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: TV that can get well. In my experience and talking
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: to people who are much smarter in the av side
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: of things than I am, I've always been told if
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you're going to go sixty five inch bigger, if you're
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: going to do a big panel, you go Sony. So
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: my dad and I went to Best Buy and we
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: got them a Sony Bravia eight OLED TV and we
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: got the whole thing set up. And before I had
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: just like a dumb set of led lights on the
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: back of the TV that I showed my parents back
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: when we lived in the same state, and I would
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: just like cycle through the rainbow colors. So we get
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: everything set up and my Mom's like, but but what
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: about my back lights? I liked my pretty lights. So
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I went back to the store and I was talking
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: to the dude there and he recommended the Govi's as well,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: because they go VI's and they had Nano leaf, and
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: there's also Phillips Hugh that has this as well. Go
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: V and Phillips both have a solution which is an
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: AI sink box, which is where I talked earlier about
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: the ARC the audio return. It carries audio and visual
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: data because it's an HDMI. You plug the cable into
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: this little box and then the box can go other
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: places and that reads the data from the video and
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: changes the lights that way. And he was like, honestly,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I've done the camera. I've done the sinkbox. I will
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: always do the camera. It never fails. Yeah, the camera
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: is so much better. So we picked that up onent
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: to my parents. I set the whole thing up and
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: we broke it in with the movie Red One.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Oh we watched that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Whoa, we watched that and that movie. I'll be honest, like,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: it's not going to win any awards, but man.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Is it a fun watch? Oh yeah, it's just fun.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And I'm watching this where, like you know, we're in
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the North Pole, their lights twinkling everywhere, and I see
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: the TV doing the same thing, and I was like, ah, man,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to buy that when I go home.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: So I did you know, I loved how it looked,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: and when we got home, I was like, I'm I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: just gonna do it. I got a hundred dollars Amazon
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: gift card. I'm going to pick it up. And it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the same thing Justin was saying we had to have
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: because my wife likes a little bit of light too,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: and we would have a floor lamp on behind us
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: on low whenever watching a movie and there's always.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: A bit of a reflection.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: But these LEDs with the GOV are so bright that
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: it lit up part of the room to where she
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: was like, Oh, we can turn off the lamp. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: don't need it, which was great because the GOV camera
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: was picking up the reflection of the lamp and like
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: the bottom right hand of the screen was just always
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: orange LEDs.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: She was like, is it broken? What's it doing?
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: And when I turned off the lamp and it started working,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: we were both just like, oh, so the camera's like
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, got it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Oh that is great.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: But looping back for one second, the other cool thing
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I discovered with the new Sony Bravia's so Sony. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: didn't know this until I was actually talking to the
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: home theater guy Sony because they provide a lot of
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the film cameras that are used to record the movies.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: They have patented three colors of They have patented Sony red,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Sony blue, and Sony Green, so those colors are used
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: exclusively in the Sony cameras and they're now also used
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: in the Sony Bravia pixels, so you get the truest
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: representation of what was recorded. And they've also partnered with
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Netflix Prime Video and I don't remember who the third is,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: but when it detects you launch that app on the TV,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: it changes the color tuning to a pre set and
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: it'll be like Prime Video preset, Netflix Video pre set,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: so the colors in the tuning and everything are as
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: intended by those streaming services, so.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: It's perfectly calibrated.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I thought that.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Was just the coolest thing because I'm always sitting there
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: fuxing with it, like I got up the back light, now,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I got it down the brightness, Now I got to
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: mess with the contrast. And this is like, no, man,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: you're watching Red One the way we intended.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gotta be what it is. Now, what kind
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: of investment like you'd mentioned, you know, you had one
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars gift card. What kind of investment like for
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Justin for your setup and then for Matt for what
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: you did.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Well, Matt and I have the same backlight that just
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the LED backlights behind the TV, but I've added, like
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I said, the two side lamps and the two rear lamps.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I would say probably three p fifty total.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Oh no, and mine was I think like eighty nine
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: without the gift card.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: No, no, that with the gift card. I didn't spend
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: a cent.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: It was eighty nine bucks on Amazon, but it burned
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: my gift card.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Oh the way it works. You know, we're speaking about entertainment.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention this for this weekend only that this
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this show is airing this weekend, the first week of
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: January twenty twenty five. Apple TV plus is doing a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: free weekend and you could stream Apple TV's library of
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: their series films that are available on the Apple platform
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: for free. And they're doing this. They started yesterday and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: this is running through the fifth to tomorrow free on
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: a device where Apple TV is available. All you need
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: is the is the app of course, and an Apple ID.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: So if you guys want to try that, I don't
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: know how that platform I don't have Apple TV, how
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that platform fares compared to Netflix or Hulu I mean
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: really well.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Or Paramount.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: What would be the best platform out there?
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: Oh that's a hard question.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you've got Paramount holds all of their stuff,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Hulu holds when they got fully bought out by Disney
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: and integrated.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Hulu holds well, honestly.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Disney Plus now also has the Hulu Library, and they've
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: got all twentieth century Foxes stuff because they got bought
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: out there. Netflix has a whole bunch of stuff. Prime
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Video has you know, all the Prime originals and their stuff.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: And then you've got Apple TV, which has their proprietary
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: things and they're starting to buy the rights to more things.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: But I mean Apple TV has they have Asimov's Foundation
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: series is going right now. They've got ted Lasso, which
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: is coming back for a new season. Ted Lao is
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: just like a warm blanket. Man.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: It's just happy. There's no drama for drama's sake. It's
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: just good. The other two that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: My my wife really loves the show Severance, which is
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: a complete mind bender. That show is just wild. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: then the one I've started to get into is Silo,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: which is some of the best sci fi I've.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Seen in a while.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And Asimov's Foundations is called Asmov's Foundation because it's based
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: on Isaac Asimov's Foundation's book series, which is like a
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: collapsing galactic empire.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: And that show is just money.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: It is so good. Now, I'm wondering with the lighting
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: setup that you have with the go vis for both
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: of you guys, do you do console gaming on your
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: big screen TVs like you know Xbotta yet Yeah, I'm
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: wondering how that would how that would affect it doesn't.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Same, It's the same thing I was playing.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: It actually won Game of the Year this year Astrobot
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: on PS five and I was playing that and it
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: was matching the same colors.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's cool.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: The cameras camera doesn't care what you're playing or what
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: you have on the TV. It's looking at the television
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: and determining what colors to display, so it doesn't matter
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: what you're watching.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Does the same go with the sound and when you're
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: playing a game, like for the sound bar situation sound
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: bar setups like if you want to play you know,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: a Final Fantasy or even all out mode, you can
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: put it in music mode, it'll be just as good.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: For the soundbar, I don't have to change a thing
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: because the audio return channel, so the sound comes from
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: my PlayStation through the HDMI to the TV, and then
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: the TV pumps that audio signal through the audio return
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: channel to the soundbar.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: I don't have to change anything. I was actually playing
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Black Ops six partially to test it out.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: And check that, and I heard the guy coming up
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: behind me right before he stabbed me.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I was like, I hear footsteps.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Ah, that would be why I'm dead now. Congratulations, but
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: thank you for helping me test that feature.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we know it works.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: All right. We want to know what is the difference
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: as people look into twenty twenty five, for you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a whole year ahead between past key and a password,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and Matt, you kind of can give us a little
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: breakdown on that. Gladly, all right, we'll be back with
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: more of tech Talk Radio.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I'm Ady Taylor, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm just let
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: me send us an X at tech talk Radio.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back now back to tech talk Radio. Hey,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: what's up. This is Tom Arnold and you're listening to
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: tech Talk radio. They're really great and I love them. Hey,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: how about a copy of Windows? Can I get a laptop?
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Pass keys versus passwords? The question that it has been
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: plaguing many people. We'll start with what a password is.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: A password has not changed since they were invented, since
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: it was knock on the door and give me the
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: secret password to come in.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: The password is chosen by the user.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Typically it's numbers, letters, uppercase, slowercase symbols, and that's it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: That's how you're identified. Your password is stored somewhere in
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: relation to your user account. Passwords are not as secure.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: They're vulnerable to things like dictionary attacks, phishing, credential stuffing,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: brute force attacks. There are ways to get in there
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: and crack it, fishing being one of the easiest ones nowadays.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: You know, somebody calls you, Hey, I'm for Microsoft Tech Support.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: There's something wrong with your computer, give me your password,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: let me help you. Key logging is another one, Rainbow tables.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: These have been around so long we could spend an
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: entire show just rattling off ways to steal a password.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Past keys are something that are vastly different now. The
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: past keys the full literal definition is a cryptographic key
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: authentication method that eliminates the needs for passwords by using
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: what are called private public key pairs. Now, to explain
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: that last part is the really important part. A private
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: and public key pair are two things that work together.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Your public key is one that you can give out.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Your private key only stays with you. You never give out
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: your private key. So when you go to authenticate, somebody
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: comes in with your public key and says, okay, hey,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: here's your public key. Does it match your private key?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Yes? It does.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, Now you can come in pass keys. That's what
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: they are, and they're stored and tied to a specific device.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: On computers, it's something called a TPM, a trusted platform module.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: On mobile devices it's usually oh, what is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: It called a secure enclave.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: So when you log into a site and it's like, hey,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: would you like to store this with a pass key,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: we'll use a mobile phone for example, Hey, instead of
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: a password, would you like to set up a pass key?
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I had that when I logged into the Lows app
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the other day to add my Low's gift card because
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I want more power tools.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure I should be allowed.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Them, but I want them, right, and it says, hey,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: set up a passkey, and I'm like cool, It's like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: all right, put your thumb on the thumb print reader,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: and I do, and that creates a pass key tied
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: to that device. I can't use it on my computer.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I can't use it on a Mac or somebody else's phone.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: It is tied to that specific device. So when I
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: go to log in, it's like, hey, give me your
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: pass key, and I use my thumb print. It can
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: be your thumb print, it can be with Apple, it can.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Be your face ID.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: What happens then if you're like, you've created a pass
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: key for a website and you've done the past key
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: on your phone. But let's say you're on your computer
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: and it's telling you to log in with your pass key,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, I don't have a pass key
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: because I don't have a thumbprint reader on my desktop computer.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: How does that work?
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Then usually underneath that is I don't have that as
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: a link that says I don't have the passkey or
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: log in with password.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe it'll coordinate with your smartphone then then you would
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: log in from there.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: You're seeing that more with more devices, for example, like
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: say you're logging in your Apple ID somewhere else. It's like, okay,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: pushing to your trusted device, right, and then you'll go
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: to your trusted device and approve the log in that's
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: using your passkey.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Kind of like the authenticator does with Microsoft.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Microsoft Authenticator Duo Octa RSA. That's that's really all it is,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: is just moving and it's funny. I was talking to
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: somebody about this. God, it had to be like a
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: decade ago. I was like, I'm telling you, at some point,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: passwords are going to go away, and you're gonna have
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: certificates tied to your account, and your certificates are going
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to be how you log in and identify yourself. And
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: here we are ten years later. I'm a tech profit apparently,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: because ten years later, that's what pass keys are. They
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: are just a pair of certificates which are much much
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: more secure. You can't brute force a pass key, you
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: can't key log a pass key, but there's no real
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: way to get that because inside of secure enclaves, inside
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: of TPM chips, that's all encrypted.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Now I have a product from Ubiki which is basically
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a hardware key, and I love it because again, it
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: could work hardware. It's probably for the best type of connection.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to see more of that as
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: a part of couters. We've seen it as part of
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: laptops where you have a biometric reader available on those,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: So maybe we'll see that. Maybe the Norman twenty twenty five.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: And ubkeys also fall on that list of something that's
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: for a trusted platform. It stores it in the memory
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: of that little ubike. I know ubi key is coming
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: in old school USBA. It's also coming in USBC now,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: so if you do USBC, most laptops have USBC ports.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: PCs are now coming with USB sports. You could just
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: do that. You can plug it in your phone, dink,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: They're okay, take it to your computer, plug it in
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: because it's stored on that device.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Great stuff, great explanation of that. So I got to
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: tell you something bad that happened to me, and I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: am guilty of preaching but not following the word did
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you do well? So I have on my desktop, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I have a two terabyte installed in my system, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: on the desktop I have a Western Digital my book
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: which was eight terabytes, and then I have a Seagate
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: desktop hub, also eight terabytes. And a project that I had.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: It was around about August of this year or last year,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I should say now, was taking everything from the Western
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Digital my book and organizing it and putting it onto
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the desktop hub and I put it in nice order.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Got photos, I've got document I've got stuff from the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: early days of my radio career, audio all the tech
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: talk radio shows from nineteen ninety five. And the other
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: day I'm at the computer and I hear and remember
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I deleted everything off of my book once I moved
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: it over, and I'm hearing like a squirrely sound, no,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: like squirrely, not clicking, but squirrely. And I remember looking
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: at the drive, going huh, I wonder what that is.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And the next day I go to use it and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I see the drive light up and then the drive
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: light goes away. I'm like, what the heck is that?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: So I plug it to unplug it, plug it back
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: in same thing, and I realized, oh no, I think
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: my drive has just failed. So I went ahead and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I took it out of the enclosure. You know case
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it's just the power supply that's in the enclosure, and
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: you know, got the archive drive, plugged it into a
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: couple of cases I have for testing it out, get
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: nothing out of it. Don't. The squirrely sound is gone,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: nothing at all, So I think I may have I
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: may have lost. Now the good news is the drives
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: that I have. I had just recently bought myself a
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: sand Disc Extreme portable drive that came with their their
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: software for recovering, and I've been using that. But the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Western Digital my book would crash about sixty seven percent
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: in so my book is so I can't recover stuff
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: off there. I have drives everywhere, but it was all organized,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm hoping I didn't lose everything. Make the backups
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and be redundant. Don't just have one backup, have two.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: If I would have had to, i'd be safe and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be admitting my failure of my hard drive failure.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: But it can happen.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, buddy.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: That sucks.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now we do have a question for this week's show.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: We got actually a couple of questions. I don't know
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna be able to get to all of them,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: but here's one. I said. I'm looking for a printer
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I could carry with my laptop bag. I just need
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to be able to print out work orders. Everything is
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: so big though, any solutions And this is from Salwarita.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So boy, I don't know carrying a printer. I would
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: just do the work orders before you leave, wouldn't you.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: I don't even know of anything like that that you
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: can carry off a portable printer. I mean, yeah, are
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: big by design.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I know that Canon Cannon has the Pisma
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Prisma I think is what it's called her Pixma that's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: supposed to be pretty good, but again it's not. You're
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: gonna not gonna put her in a laptop bag. Maybe
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: you put in a box you carry in your car,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: but you don't want to leave stuff in your car
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: because the ink's gonna get all messed up. I just
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know what would be the best of this situation.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Looking at this first off, I'd like to say for
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: every it person that listens to this, printers are have
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: been and will continue to be the devil. PC mag
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: actually has an article that came out just last month,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: the best portable printers for twenty twenty five, the one
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: you just mentioned. The Canon Pixma t R one fifty
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: is the best general use ink Jet portable printer.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: It's a wireless portable in cool.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: It's chunky. But then further down, this one's costly. This
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: is coming in at about five hundred and twenty bucks.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Is the brother pocket jet PJ eight eight three, and
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: it is a portable thermal printer. Now, thermal printers is
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: what that that's receipt paper basically, but it's it looks
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: like it's full sized paper.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: But this thing is it is tiny. It is not
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: big at all.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Looks like it's about an inch and a half maybe
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: two inches high, three four inches deep and then maybe
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: a foot wide, like and it's this.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Thermal pretty decent laptop bag, but maybe.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: And it says thermal paper eliminates any need for ink
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: prints via USB Wi Fi Wi Fi direct in Bluetooth,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: surprisingly good output quality, smaller and lighter than mobile ink jets.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: The downsides are it's pricey five hundred bucks no duh.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: And uh monochrome p only.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: But if you're just printing work orders and you don't
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: need color, like that could work.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: All right. Here's another solution. So I was just thinking
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: about this. What if you had an iPad or you know,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Android tablet, right, you got a tablet or an iPad
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and you have your forms like Adobe Acrobat. You could
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: then customize the forms right there on your tablet while
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: you're with the customer and then email them to him
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: or her as a PDF, and then they could print
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: it out. I couldn't that wouldn't that work as well?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I mean that's an that's an option.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, if if we're set on, you know, having
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: the physical work order, that's that's definitely an option. I've
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I've done stuff like I had a plumber out to
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: replace my garbage disposal and all the paperwork was I
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: signed everything on the iPad, Yeah, and then I got
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: an emailed finished copy of it, and if I wanted
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to print it out, I could do that.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: So I mean that's always an option.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: All right. Well for Brett who sent us that email,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: that's that's a good one. Here's one more, Steve, we
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: can get this before the break. Hey guys, I found
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and listen to you online. So can you guys tell
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: me which browser should I really be using? There are options,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: of course, of Google, Microsoft and the duck Something, which
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: is the best that's from Rick and Feedix.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I like the duck Something, uh, Firefox and the Duck
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: something is a search engine instead of Google.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: It's called Duck Duck Go.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: But I would definitely use Firefox, I mean, Edge, Chrome, Brave,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: They're all based on Chromium. They're they're basically the same browser.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: The one I would definitely stay away from actually is
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: the Brave browser. Yes, for security sake, it has a
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: built in peer to peer element. Uh, and you can't
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: control the security of that. We actually, in my previous job,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: we banned Brave Browser across the entire organization.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yep, oh wow. All right.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: And the thing about Brave is they keep touting that
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: it's the most secure, the most private.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: It's it's really not. It's it's actually really really bad.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take another quick break. We'll be
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: back for more of tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I'm Matt Jones, and I'm Justin. Let me find us
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  Speaker 4: So, as we approached the end of the year, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of us have what are known as flexible spending
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  Speaker 4: accounts or health savings accounts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Basically, you put a portion of your paycheck throughout
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  Speaker 4: the year into this special account and it can be
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  Speaker 4: used for purchases medical related purchases, or sometimes flexible stuff
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  Speaker 4: like childcare or other things. Anyway, I have an FSA
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  Speaker 4: and we were getting to the point where we're getting
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  Speaker 4: to the end of the year, and I had too
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  Speaker 4: much money in the account and it's user or lose it,
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  Speaker 4: like you can only carry over a couple one hundred
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  Speaker 4: dollars into the new year. And so I was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: I have already processed all of my you know, receipts
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  Speaker 4: and every thing, and I still have all this extra money,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't know what's to do with it. So
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  Speaker 4: I went out and bought the Aura ring. Oh that's
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  Speaker 4: what I'm wearing right here, and it's it's a it's
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  Speaker 4: a smart ring. So it's kind of like you know
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  Speaker 4: the Apple Watch or the you know, pixel Watch or
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  Speaker 4: you know, Samsung Galaxy Watch whatever, but the Aura Ring
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  Speaker 4: is a little bit better in terms of it literally
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  Speaker 4: just does that one thing. It just monitors your health,
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  Speaker 4: and it can monitor many many aspects of your health,
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  Speaker 4: not only just your heart rate, but it can monitor
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  Speaker 4: your your your your stress levels, your breathing, your blood oxygen.
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  Speaker 1: Levels, about abnea, does it do that like sleep app Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know that's something that Apple watch has.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it can do. It can do sleep apnea.
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  Speaker 4: It monitors your sleep habits, It monitors it tells you,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when to go to bed and you know,
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  Speaker 4: and all that stuff too.
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  Speaker 2: But it does a pretty good job about it.
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  Speaker 4: And this was about I want to say, this was
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  Speaker 4: like I think it was three ninety nine before tax, right,
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  Speaker 4: So it's a little a little bit pricey, but basically
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  Speaker 4: how I do but it is. You go to best Buy.
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  Speaker 4: Best Buy is an authorized retailer. They have a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of like ring sizes that you can try on right there.
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  Speaker 4: They have like a ring sizing kit, so you basically
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  Speaker 4: try it on and they what they tell you to
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  Speaker 4: do is that you tell you to wear it on
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  Speaker 4: your index finger.
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  Speaker 2: Or your middle finger.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to wear it on your ring finger
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  Speaker 4: or your pinky because there's not a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 4: blood flow into those two fingers versus the first two.
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  Speaker 4: So they say index finger or middle finger. So I
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  Speaker 4: tried the middle finger and I found the size I like,
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  Speaker 4: and then I went ahead and just bought it right
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  Speaker 4: from best Buy. You you can buy it directly from
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  Speaker 4: the website. But if you buy it from the website,
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  Speaker 4: you can use your FSA credit card or debit card.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, but since I bought it from best Buy,
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  Speaker 4: I can't use the FSA debit card because they don't
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  Speaker 4: they don't recognize Best Buy as an authorized FSA retailer.
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  Speaker 4: So what I had to do is just submit a
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  Speaker 4: documentation saying this is what I bought, and then they're like, oh, yeah, okay, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: But how do you charge it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: It comes with a little charging doc that has the
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  Speaker 4: shape of the inside of the ring, and so you
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  Speaker 4: just set the ring over it and it just it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like a NFC charging, you know, near middle
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  Speaker 4: communication wireless charging on it. But interesting is I I
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  Speaker 4: did ask the FSA company that I'm with, and I said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I notice here that you cover the cost
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  Speaker 4: of the ring and you cover the monthly charge because
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  Speaker 4: there is a monthly charge if you want access to
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  Speaker 4: all the features. It's like five ninety nine a month
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  Speaker 4: or something like that. I don't remember exactly, but they
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  Speaker 4: don't cover the yearly. Now this is just my particular,
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  Speaker 4: my particular FSA. But they're like, yeah, I don't make
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  Speaker 4: the rules I don't understand. But if you pay for
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  Speaker 4: the year, you actually get a discount obviously, then then
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  Speaker 4: paying monthly. But it's so weird that my FSA company
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  Speaker 4: will pay for the monthly subscription, but they won't pay
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  Speaker 4: for the yearly subscription, which I you know, whatever, it's
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  Speaker 4: It's just a minor thing. But the Ara ring is
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  Speaker 4: really good. It is waterproof. You can wear it while
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  Speaker 4: you're showering, you can wear it while you're washing your hands.
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  Speaker 4: I do find that it gets a little bit annoying
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  Speaker 4: after I wash my hands because water does get in
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  Speaker 4: between the ring and the skin, and so then I
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  Speaker 4: feel it kind of slips around a little bit, and
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  Speaker 4: then the skin gets really water logged after having water
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  Speaker 4: in it. So I'm always taking the ring off, drying
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  Speaker 4: off my finger, and then putting the ring back on.
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  Speaker 4: But the ring does last about eight days on one
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  Speaker 4: single charge.
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  Speaker 1: Eight days. That's great.
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  Speaker 2: It is really good. Actually.
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  Speaker 4: The only other downside I would say is I don't
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  Speaker 4: necessarily like their app. It seems to be just a
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  Speaker 4: little bit too cluttered. I mean, I came from Fitbit,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I have the Google Pixel Watch. I use
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  Speaker 4: the Fitbit Pro subscription. Fitbit was just easy. It's easy
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  Speaker 4: to understand where you want to go, what you want
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  Speaker 4: to see.
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  Speaker 1: Aura.
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  Speaker 4: It just seems to be filled with a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: like learn more about your sleep habits or click here
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  Speaker 4: to discover how your heart rate. I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: care about all your articles. I just want to see
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  Speaker 4: the data. Yeah, you know, But but I tell you
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  Speaker 4: one thing. Last night, sitting around watching TV, I get
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  Speaker 4: a notification on my phone. It's from Aura and it
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  Speaker 4: says it is time for you to go to bed
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  Speaker 4: right now. And I'm like, well, what does this mean?
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  Speaker 4: Because I normally it would tell me, hey, it's about
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  Speaker 4: time to go to bed. You know, I start winding down.
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  Speaker 4: Last night it said, based on your current heart rate
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  Speaker 4: and your stress level, you need to go to bed
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  Speaker 4: right now. All off the television and go to bed
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, where can our listeners get more
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  Speaker 1: info on this?
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  Speaker 2: You can, uh, the website. Oh, I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: how to spell it is.
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  Speaker 1: I think the AU is it au r A.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's oh you are A.
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  Speaker 3: So the website is Aura ring. Oh you are a
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  Speaker 3: r I n G dot com All right, cool, all right, And.
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  Speaker 2: You can also go visit a Best Buy and you
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  Speaker 2: can see them there.
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  Speaker 1: Did you go to bed like it told you to?
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  Speaker 2: I did and I feel great.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio, wishing everybody
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  Speaker 1: a happy new Year. We'll be back next week with
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  Speaker 1: more tech. If you have a question for us, drop
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  Speaker 1: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm justin.
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  Speaker 2: Let me have yourselves a great week. We'll see him