Latest / Solomonster Sounds Off / Sound Off 928 - The RETURN Of AJ Lee, AEW Ratings PLUNGE And Liv Morgan Stalker TO BE FREED?
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- 0:01Speaker 1: It's business time, baby. You are listening to Solo Monsters
- 0:05Speaker 1: Sounds Off.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I love you so, Mama, monster, dude, I want your soul.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Woman, you got grown ass rustlers in the back going
- 0:16Speaker 3: on Twitter.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Come over here?
- 0:18Speaker 1: Is that Pet Patterson? You have legs?
- 0:22Speaker 2: I was ninety nine percent positive it was just chessed up.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Now, congratulations.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Who hasn't beat Daniel Garcia? Welcome to episode nine twenty
- 0:34Speaker 3: eight of The Solemn Monster Sounds Off for Sunday, September seventh,
- 0:38Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. It has now been fifteen days since
- 0:42Speaker 3: Rajah Jackson beat Psycho Stu into unconsciousness and still the
- 0:47Speaker 3: man Room's free. On the bright side, Psycho Steu is
- 0:50Speaker 3: now home from the hospital after suffering what his wife
- 0:53Speaker 3: says was a serious head injury. That's putting it mildly.
- 0:59Speaker 3: But it was thirty years k ago this past week.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Thirty years that Ted Turner gave Eric Bischoff an hour
- 1:06Speaker 3: of primetime television every Monday night on TNT and WCW.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Monday nightro debuted from the Mall of America. Now, when
- 1:15Speaker 3: Bischoff tells it sometimes and other people tell the story,
- 1:18Speaker 3: they say that Turner gave him two hours every Monday,
- 1:21Speaker 3: but Nitro did not expand to two hours until god
- 1:24Speaker 3: what was it? Eight or nine months later? Fly and
- 1:27Speaker 3: Brian beat Jusian thunder Liiger in the opener. Sting and
- 1:31Speaker 3: Rick Flair wrestled each other as Lex Luger looked on
- 1:35Speaker 3: in his puffy white dress shirt, having just wrestled for
- 1:39Speaker 3: the WWF two nights earlier. He was actually tagging with
- 1:42Speaker 3: Sean Michaels, so him showing up was a big surprise.
- 1:45Speaker 3: And Hulk Hogan beat Big Bubba Rogers in the main event,
- 1:50Speaker 3: and it was a night that I mean no hyperbole
- 1:52Speaker 3: here led to a period of transformation in the wrestling
- 1:56Speaker 3: business that is still felt to this day. The official
- 2:00Speaker 3: kickoff of the Monday Night War and why them all
- 2:04Speaker 3: of America? Because Bischoff knew the WCW had problems getting
- 2:08Speaker 3: people to come to their TV tapings, so his mindset was,
- 2:12Speaker 3: let's run a unique venue, a smaller venue like that
- 2:16Speaker 3: to mask the problem. See, he and Tony Kahn have
- 2:20Speaker 3: more in common than they may think. It took them
- 2:23Speaker 3: a while to get going, but once the nWo Angle
- 2:27Speaker 3: launched the following year, they went unbeaten against Raw for
- 2:31Speaker 3: eighty three weeks straight. You know, for as influential as
- 2:35Speaker 3: that show was and just the way it changed the
- 2:38Speaker 3: wrestling business, it's crazy to think that Nitro was only
- 2:41Speaker 3: around for about five years.
- 2:43Speaker 1: That was it.
- 2:45Speaker 3: And three years ago this week was brawl Out and
- 2:49Speaker 3: the beginning of the end of Cmpunk in AW. Yeah,
- 2:53Speaker 3: there are certain moments that you can point to where
- 2:56Speaker 3: AW lost the piece of itself. Cody Rhodes leaving was
- 3:00Speaker 3: one of those moments, probably the first one, but brawl
- 3:03Speaker 3: Out was the other moment, and Punk eventually came back,
- 3:07Speaker 3: but it was very short lived. And then we all
- 3:09Speaker 3: know what happened after that. And you know, watching SmackDown
- 3:12Speaker 3: on Friday Night in Chicago with Punk and the return
- 3:16Speaker 3: of aj Lee, it's really something to think that Punk
- 3:19Speaker 3: was working for the other place three years ago and
- 3:23Speaker 3: how different things might look right now had that whole
- 3:26Speaker 3: situation played out differently. Easily the darkest day in AW history,
- 3:32Speaker 3: but it's no dark day when it's a sound off Sunday.
- 3:35Speaker 3: So we got a lot to get into here. If
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- 3:46Speaker 3: out here on this show. I want to say thank
- 3:49Speaker 3: you to all of our PayPal producers, including Big B
- 3:53Speaker 3: Brian Visera, The Diamond Dallas Dance Machine, Harrison Soep, Velvet Revolver,
- 3:58Speaker 3: Robert Murray, rec On, Russell Bullwaar, The Georgia Nightmare, Timothy
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- 4:13Speaker 3: my friend kill Shot Keith Hart was great seeing you
- 4:17Speaker 3: on Thursday too, Brother, always a pleasure, and the Wichita Workhorse,
- 4:22Speaker 3: Clayton Nettleton back from the Void. Welcome back, brother. Good
- 4:27Speaker 3: to see some of you in Philadelphia on Thursday for
- 4:30Speaker 3: House of Glory. You know, I didn't even realize until
- 4:32Speaker 3: I was stuck in an uber trying to get to
- 4:34Speaker 3: the venue from my hotel that it was opening night
- 4:37Speaker 3: for the Eagles. The fucking Eagles were playing a game
- 4:41Speaker 3: that night, but I ended up with a very entertaining
- 4:44Speaker 3: driver who claimed to be the songwriter for a bunch
- 4:48Speaker 3: of Taylor Swift songs. And the Weekend and a bunch
- 4:52Speaker 3: of other artists that he has apparently met over the years.
- 4:56Speaker 3: I guess they just asked him to write lyrics for
- 4:58Speaker 3: their songs, and he did. He met Billy Ellish getting
- 5:02Speaker 3: out of a cab and they became friends and he
- 5:04Speaker 3: wrote some of her stuff, and the same with Sabrina Carpenter.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Every time a new song came on his Spotify playlist,
- 5:12Speaker 3: he would tell me what role he played in making
- 5:15Speaker 3: the song happen. And when I got a message legit,
- 5:18Speaker 3: I got a message in my Uber app asking me
- 5:22Speaker 3: if everything was okay because my commute was taking longer
- 5:26Speaker 3: than expected because we were stuck in all this traffic.
- 5:29Speaker 3: I thought about sending a cry for help, but I
- 5:32Speaker 3: was far too entertained by all of this. I mean,
- 5:35Speaker 3: I met the man who may well have written every
- 5:37Speaker 3: song ever made, and he drives an uber who would
- 5:41Speaker 3: have guessed it, And I tried to change the subject.
- 5:45Speaker 3: He was like, oh, so, what are you doing in
- 5:47Speaker 3: town here? Where are you from? I'm like, well, I'm
- 5:48Speaker 3: not from here. I'm from New York. Oh what are
- 5:51Speaker 3: you here for? And I'm you know, we're talking about wrestling,
- 5:53Speaker 3: And I told him, you know what, I'm here for Oh,
- 5:55Speaker 3: you're a wrestling fan.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't a wrestling fan. He really didn't know
- 5:59Speaker 3: much about it. But you know what he asked me about.
- 6:02Speaker 3: The one thing he asked me about the Rajah Jackson incident.
- 6:06Speaker 3: He knew about that. He didn't know Raj's name. He
- 6:09Speaker 3: just knew all that kid, the son of the MMA fighter.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know about that. Anyway, it
- 6:17Speaker 3: was a fun night outside of Bully Ray saying my
- 6:20Speaker 3: mother was probably a rat back in the day. When
- 6:23Speaker 3: I came out to inform him that his match with
- 6:25Speaker 3: Zillafat Too was opening the show, not closing it, I
- 6:28Speaker 3: kept a far enough distance that he couldn't do anything
- 6:31Speaker 3: to me, And I'd be lying if I said I
- 6:34Speaker 3: didn't crack a smile when Zilla pinned him in sixty
- 6:37Speaker 3: seconds to win back the.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Crown Jewel Championship.
- 6:40Speaker 3: So I guess I can add being insulted and threatened
- 6:43Speaker 3: by Bully Ray in Philadelphia to the list of things
- 6:46Speaker 3: I've now been a part of in my seven years
- 6:48Speaker 3: with House of Glory. Our next show is back in
- 6:50Speaker 3: New York on October tenth, that's the night before Crown Jewel,
- 6:54Speaker 3: and let me tell you it is a loaded show.
- 6:58Speaker 3: We've got Killer Cross making his debut against Matt Cardona.
- 7:02Speaker 3: We've got the return of the Hardys, just forty eight
- 7:05Speaker 3: hours before their big Bound for Glory match with the Dudleys.
- 7:09Speaker 3: You know, last time we had the Hardy's if you're
- 7:11Speaker 3: wondering about their drawing power in twenty twenty five, it
- 7:15Speaker 3: was an absolute madhouse. I mean we were already sold
- 7:19Speaker 3: out the first three rows. We've actually opened up fifth
- 7:22Speaker 3: row seating and of course general admission is still available
- 7:26Speaker 3: as well. But it's going to be one of our
- 7:27Speaker 3: biggest shows of the year. Do not miss out on
- 7:30Speaker 3: this hog Wrestling dot Net and Amazing Red is wrestling
- 7:34Speaker 3: Leon Slater on that show, the TNAX Division champion, the
- 7:37Speaker 3: man who unseated Amazing Red is the youngest EX Division
- 7:40Speaker 3: champion of all time. And then we're back to Chicago
- 7:44Speaker 3: at Logan Square Auditorium on Friday, November twenty first.
- 7:47Speaker 1: I will be there, I hope you will be too.
- 7:50Speaker 3: That bully segment, by the way, with Me and him
- 7:53Speaker 3: and the match with Zilla is up for free on
- 7:56Speaker 3: the House of Glory YouTube channel, as is the main
- 7:58Speaker 3: event between Amazing Ros and Cedric Alexander, which is worth
- 8:03Speaker 3: checking out. The big story of the week stems from
- 8:08Speaker 3: SmackDown on Friday night, and really it started building up
- 8:11Speaker 3: on Monday night, so we should probably go back there.
- 8:13Speaker 1: First.
- 8:14Speaker 3: We had a face to face confrontation in the ring
- 8:18Speaker 3: between Becky Lynch and Cmpunk, and Becky was a great instigator.
- 8:24Speaker 1: In this segment.
- 8:25Speaker 3: She was doing everything that she could to annoy CM
- 8:28Speaker 3: Punk and get under his skin and needle him and
- 8:31Speaker 3: needle him, and she was out there, you know, explaining
- 8:34Speaker 3: to him. They were trying to give an explanation for
- 8:37Speaker 3: why she hates him beyond the fact that she's married
- 8:40Speaker 3: to seth.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Rawlins and dresses him.
- 8:44Speaker 3: She talked about how when Punk left the company all
- 8:47Speaker 3: those many years ago, and Becky was first starting out
- 8:50Speaker 3: and first made the main roster, she had to sit
- 8:53Speaker 3: through matches where people were chanting Cmpunk's name because they
- 8:57Speaker 3: didn't care enough about her matches to cheer for her
- 9:01Speaker 3: or cheer against her, so they were too busy chanting
- 9:04Speaker 3: CM Punk and it's something that she never forgot. So
- 9:07Speaker 3: they at least took a stab at trying to explain
- 9:09Speaker 3: why this woman would have ill will towards this man.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Beyond the fact that you know, I'm married to the
- 9:15Speaker 3: guy that you're currently feuding with. So they tried to
- 9:18Speaker 3: add a personal element to it, and then she started
- 9:21Speaker 3: smacking the shit out of him like she was channeling
- 9:23Speaker 3: her inner Stephanie McMahon, and she's smacking him and slapping him,
- 9:27Speaker 3: and Punk of course sees it. Who can't touch her?
- 9:29Speaker 3: So he's not allowed to defend himself or hit a
- 9:32Speaker 3: GTS or anything like that. I mean, it's not thirty
- 9:34Speaker 3: five years ago in the attitude or You're not going
- 9:36Speaker 3: to see that shit in WWE television today. So Punk
- 9:39Speaker 3: is just taking it and taking it and you know,
- 9:42Speaker 3: not selling it. But then he leaves the ring and
- 9:45Speaker 3: he ends up in the back. He's talking to Adam
- 9:48Speaker 3: Pierce and he asked Adam Pierce where a SmackDown on Friday?
- 9:52Speaker 3: And Adam Pierce tells him Chicago. Why he goes tremendous.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Everything that they did in this segment, everything they did
- 9:59Speaker 3: on that show on Monday Night, was clearly setting up
- 10:03Speaker 3: for the eventual return of A. J.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Lee.
- 10:06Speaker 3: They never said her name. The fans did. The fans
- 10:09Speaker 3: were chanting her name. They never acknowledged her. They never
- 10:13Speaker 3: said her name, but it was designed to get you
- 10:15Speaker 3: to think, Hey, I better tune into this show on
- 10:17Speaker 3: Friday night, because I think something big might be going down.
- 10:21Speaker 3: And they were in Chicago, over sixteen thousand people at
- 10:24Speaker 3: the All State Arena, and Becky was there, Seth Rollins
- 10:29Speaker 3: was there, and Becky came out to the ring and
- 10:32Speaker 3: was healing on the various Chicago sports teams, oddly enough,
- 10:37Speaker 3: all but the Chicago Bears, which happens to be Seth
- 10:40Speaker 3: Rollins's favorite team, and Cmpunk came out and we had
- 10:44Speaker 3: Punk and Becky in the ring yet again, and Punk said,
- 10:47Speaker 3: this is not about you, It's about your your coward
- 10:49Speaker 3: of a husband. Because he was in the crowd. Seth
- 10:52Speaker 3: wouldn't even come to the ring. He was in the
- 10:54Speaker 3: crowd watching all of this, and Becky's asking him, you know,
- 10:58Speaker 3: how do you feel after what happened on Monday night
- 11:00Speaker 3: when she was smacking the shit out of him? And
- 11:03Speaker 3: Punk did acknowledge there again, tons of aj Lee chants
- 11:07Speaker 3: in this building and he acknowledged them and even said
- 11:10Speaker 3: her name, and then he was pointing out various other people.
- 11:14Speaker 3: Don't you think I can get someone like Bailey? I
- 11:16Speaker 3: can get someone like the eradicator Rhea Ripley to come
- 11:19Speaker 3: out here and kick your ass. I don't have to
- 11:21Speaker 3: do anything myself. I get my sister in the front
- 11:24Speaker 3: road to get out of her seat and come into
- 11:26Speaker 3: this ring and beat you up. And Becky starts slapping
- 11:30Speaker 3: him around again and daring him to find somebody to
- 11:33Speaker 3: fight her. Punk gets out of the ring and he says,
- 11:37Speaker 3: you know would never put my hands on a woman. Thankfully,
- 11:42Speaker 3: I know somebody who will. It was the perfect setup
- 11:46Speaker 3: and then they hit AJ's old music and out comes
- 11:50Speaker 3: missus cm Punk AJ Lee herself for the first time
- 11:54Speaker 3: since twenty fifteen. She walks out, and the look of fear,
- 11:59Speaker 3: the look of of shock and awe on the face
- 12:02Speaker 3: of Becky Lynch was pitch perfect, and the pot for
- 12:06Speaker 3: AJ when she came out was insane. Not unexpected, especially
- 12:11Speaker 3: in Chicago, but it was insane, and she skipped her
- 12:15Speaker 3: way down to the ring again like ten years hadn't
- 12:18Speaker 3: even gone by. Becky looks shell shocked and she's begging
- 12:22Speaker 3: off and eventually, you know, AJ got into the ring
- 12:24Speaker 3: and attacked Becky, knocked her out of the ring, and
- 12:29Speaker 3: Becky and Seth they go limping off together and it's
- 12:32Speaker 3: this big celebration. Punk gets in the ring and AJ
- 12:35Speaker 3: jumps into his arms and they share a kiss, and
- 12:39Speaker 3: that's how they went off the air. Was it predictable,
- 12:42Speaker 3: You bet, But that was intentional.
- 12:45Speaker 1: It was supposed to be.
- 12:46Speaker 3: Nothing they did over the last week would lead you
- 12:49Speaker 3: to believe that they ever wanted this or expected this
- 12:51Speaker 3: to be a surprise. This was meant to be a surprise,
- 12:55Speaker 3: the way that Cmpunk's debut in AEW was meant to
- 12:59Speaker 3: be a surprise, which is to say it was never
- 13:01Speaker 3: meant to be a surprise. They never even mentioned Punk's
- 13:05Speaker 3: name in the lead up to the First Dance, but
- 13:08Speaker 3: I think Tony booking a show called the First Dance
- 13:11Speaker 3: at the United Center was kind of a dead giveaway.
- 13:14Speaker 3: And so was Becky smacking Punk around on Monday night,
- 13:17Speaker 3: and then Punk asking Adam Pierce, oh, We're SmackDown on Friday,
- 13:21Speaker 3: and so as with Punk's debut and AAW which is
- 13:25Speaker 3: still one of the loudest reactions that I have ever
- 13:28Speaker 3: heard on a wrestling show. I mean, when I think
- 13:31Speaker 3: of the without being in the building, when I think
- 13:34Speaker 3: of the loudest not even Pops, just the loudest sustain
- 13:38Speaker 3: reactions that I have heard on a wrestling show. The
- 13:44Speaker 3: first thing I think of, and it wasn't like five
- 13:46Speaker 3: minutes straight or anything. It was probably more like maybe
- 13:49Speaker 3: sixty seconds. But it's still to me, the loudest and
- 13:52Speaker 3: the greatest pop of all time that I've ever seen
- 13:55Speaker 3: was the night on that taped episode of Raw where
- 13:57Speaker 3: Mankind won the championship and they hit the glass shatter
- 14:00Speaker 3: and Stone Cold came out, and I mean, like the
- 14:03Speaker 3: hard camera was shaking, People were jumping up out of
- 14:06Speaker 3: their seats. It was insane. After that, I might have
- 14:09Speaker 3: to put the Cmpunk debut in aw in twenty twenty one,
- 14:15Speaker 3: and then, of course you have Punk's return to WWE
- 14:17Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. That's also kind of neck and neck.
- 14:21Speaker 3: But that first dance reaction when he came out again,
- 14:24Speaker 3: he had been gone for seven years. He was one
- 14:26Speaker 3: of the biggest names in wrestling in the last fifteen years,
- 14:29Speaker 3: and so for him to go away for that long
- 14:32Speaker 3: and now he's back live television in a major promotion.
- 14:37Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't like he just showed up at
- 14:38Speaker 3: a Ring of Honor show or TNA or anything like that,
- 14:42Speaker 3: and he walks out there in the United Center in
- 14:44Speaker 3: front of fifteen thousand people in his hometown. I mean,
- 14:48Speaker 3: you couldn't have made it any better than they did.
- 14:52Speaker 3: And so here you didn't have to say her name,
- 14:55Speaker 3: just like Tony Kahan didn't have to say, Hey, guess
- 14:58Speaker 3: what CM punk is coming back this Friday. He just
- 15:00Speaker 3: knew that people would tune in and that they would
- 15:03Speaker 3: expect him to be there.
- 15:05Speaker 1: And it was the same.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Thing with AJ, and it didn't diminish her reaction at all.
- 15:10Speaker 3: The people were loud as fuck when they hit her
- 15:12Speaker 3: music and she came out. So Becky was great, I
- 15:16Speaker 3: thought in that segment, and it sets up the obvious
- 15:19Speaker 3: mixed tag team match for Russell Palooza, which should be
- 15:22Speaker 3: officially announced on a raw this Monday. What I'm hoping
- 15:25Speaker 3: to see this Monday is that first in ring back
- 15:28Speaker 3: and forth on the mic between Becky and AJ. You know,
- 15:30Speaker 3: Friday was the return. AJ didn't have to say a
- 15:33Speaker 3: word and she didn't. Mondays should be where they take
- 15:36Speaker 3: aim at one another on the mic, unless they decide
- 15:40Speaker 3: to save that for like a big contract signing the
- 15:42Speaker 3: week after with all four of them. I could see
- 15:44Speaker 3: that too, but you got to give us something, something
- 15:47Speaker 3: good on Monday Night. So that's what I'm looking for.
- 15:49Speaker 3: That's what I'm hoping for.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:51Speaker 3: The thing about aj Lee, for the most part, I
- 15:53Speaker 3: think people are very happy to see her back. You know,
- 15:57Speaker 3: she she had a lot of fans. She wasn't in
- 16:00Speaker 3: WWE on television for I would say a long period
- 16:04Speaker 3: of time. It wasn't like she had like a ten
- 16:06Speaker 3: year run or anything like that. But in the time
- 16:09Speaker 3: that she was there, she made enough of an impact.
- 16:11Speaker 3: I mean, she was a major character on the television show,
- 16:15Speaker 3: and she worked with all the big names. This is
- 16:17Speaker 3: what people sometimes maybe don't understand or they don't remember.
- 16:21Speaker 1: It wasn't just that show.
- 16:22Speaker 3: She was the Divas Champion and she worked you know,
- 16:25Speaker 3: she was one of the most popular divas in the
- 16:27Speaker 3: division during the Diva's era of WWE. True, but even
- 16:33Speaker 3: more importantly than that, they saw enough in her to
- 16:36Speaker 3: have her working with all the big names. During that
- 16:39Speaker 3: last run that she had, she was working with John Cena,
- 16:41Speaker 3: she was working segments with Cmpunk and Daniel Bryan and Caine,
- 16:46Speaker 3: you know, all these major names. They even made her
- 16:48Speaker 3: the raw general manager for a period of time. She
- 16:52Speaker 3: was in some of the main events segments, in closing
- 16:54Speaker 3: segments on Monday Night Raw, week after week after week.
- 16:59Speaker 3: So her is a big deal for a lot of
- 17:01Speaker 3: different reasons. It gets also a big name, you know,
- 17:04Speaker 3: back in the women's division, someone who a lot of
- 17:07Speaker 3: people thought they would never see again, that she was
- 17:09Speaker 3: just not going to come back. I mean, ten years
- 17:11Speaker 3: had gone by. There's a lot of parallels with her
- 17:15Speaker 3: and her husband in terms of his return in twenty
- 17:18Speaker 3: twenty three. When Punk came back, he came back more
- 17:21Speaker 3: or less, it was ten years later. Same thing with
- 17:24Speaker 3: aj Lee ten years later. The last match that she
- 17:26Speaker 3: wrestled was March of twenty fifteen. I think it was
- 17:29Speaker 3: the Raw after WrestleMania thirty one. I think it was
- 17:32Speaker 3: a six woman tag on TV, and that was it.
- 17:35Speaker 3: She retired, And I look at aj Lee as the
- 17:39Speaker 3: last big female return that I can think of in
- 17:43Speaker 3: ww I mean, actually, there's only one other one that
- 17:46Speaker 3: I could think of in terms of like what other
- 17:49Speaker 3: major female returns could there be left now in WWE,
- 17:54Speaker 3: And the only one other than aj would be Mercedes,
- 17:57Speaker 3: and Mercedes ain't coming back to WW not for a
- 18:00Speaker 3: long time.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Yet.
- 18:01Speaker 3: She's very content where she is right now with all
- 18:04Speaker 3: of her titles. You know, there's Page Sorea, but a
- 18:09Speaker 3: Page return would not be as big as an Ajlee return.
- 18:13Speaker 3: You know, aj was only twenty eight years old when
- 18:15Speaker 3: she retired. She's still only thirty eight. We're not talking
- 18:19Speaker 3: about a legend's return here for a nostalgia pop. She's
- 18:24Speaker 3: all in full time. We saw video of aj with
- 18:27Speaker 3: Triple H signing a contract. We didn't know what kind
- 18:30Speaker 3: of contract it was. Now we do. According to bodyslam
- 18:34Speaker 3: dot Net, Ajlee has signed a full time, multi year
- 18:38Speaker 3: contract with WWE full time.
- 18:43Speaker 1: So she is back for wressell Palooza.
- 18:46Speaker 3: She's back for Survivors Series, She's back for the Royal Rumbles,
- 18:49Speaker 3: She's back for Wresselemania, all of it. As she did
- 18:54Speaker 3: say a few years ago in an interview that the
- 18:57Speaker 3: reason that she retired was due to a very bad
- 18:59Speaker 3: neck in that she suffered in her last year in
- 19:02Speaker 3: the ring. I think it was the summer before she retired.
- 19:07Speaker 3: To this day, she still gets numbness in her hands,
- 19:10Speaker 3: and she said because of that she would never wrestle
- 19:12Speaker 3: again because she doesn't want to make it any worse.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Outside of the numbness, she said at the time, I
- 19:18Speaker 3: made it out unscathed. I'd like to keep it that
- 19:21Speaker 3: way and not make things worse. And she said that
- 19:23Speaker 3: she was never going to wrestle again. This was in
- 19:26Speaker 3: twenty twenty two that she said this. Now she's back,
- 19:32Speaker 3: now she may limit the things that she does in
- 19:34Speaker 3: the ring because of that. I mean, it's not like
- 19:36Speaker 3: she was doing anything too crazy in her matches ten
- 19:38Speaker 3: years ago. But again, these women, like the quality of
- 19:41Speaker 3: the women in that division today and some of the
- 19:43Speaker 3: risks that they'll take, some of the moves they do,
- 19:48Speaker 3: she may feel motivated to try to go tit for
- 19:50Speaker 3: tat with them. Hopefully she can stay healthy and her
- 19:52Speaker 3: neck is not going to be an issue for her.
- 19:54Speaker 3: I'm sure she's weighed the pros and cons of that,
- 19:57Speaker 3: and she knows her body. She knows what she can
- 20:00Speaker 3: cannon can't do. And look, if her neck was that
- 20:02Speaker 3: badly damaged, she wouldn't be wrestling because they would never
- 20:05Speaker 3: clear her, they wouldn't allow her back in the ring.
- 20:08Speaker 3: But I just thought that was very interesting that it
- 20:11Speaker 3: was only again two or three years ago, she's saying this,
- 20:14Speaker 3: like this is why I had to step away from
- 20:16Speaker 3: the ring. And that you will never see me back
- 20:18Speaker 3: in the ring again. And then I'm reading this news
- 20:21Speaker 3: that not only is she back, she's back full time.
- 20:24Speaker 3: It's like, Wow, okay, talk about going from zero to sixty.
- 20:30Speaker 3: And in terms of the potential matches that there are
- 20:32Speaker 3: for her, there's tons of them, tons of women on
- 20:35Speaker 3: the roster right now who were not there when AJ
- 20:38Speaker 3: was there, who came in after she retired, and some
- 20:41Speaker 3: of them who were fangirling over her return, like Roxane
- 20:45Speaker 3: Perez dying to work with this woman, and a lot
- 20:49Speaker 3: of these women probably never thought they would have the chance.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Roxane is one, Naomi is another. Right, AJ and Naomi
- 20:57Speaker 3: they had I think couple matches together back in the
- 21:00Speaker 3: early NXT days, back when NXT was still a game show.
- 21:05Speaker 3: I was watching Naomi on her Twitter. She was ready
- 21:08Speaker 3: to throw Big Jim out the damn window when she
- 21:10Speaker 3: saw AJ come back. You were following any of her tweets,
- 21:15Speaker 3: She's like, I'm out for nine months at least. Then
- 21:17Speaker 3: now she comes back. So when Naomi comes back, that's
- 21:21Speaker 3: a match that she's going to be lobbying for. Live
- 21:24Speaker 3: Morgan is another obvious one. If you watch Live Morgan,
- 21:27Speaker 3: if you watch her mannerisms, especially in there, like with
- 21:31Speaker 3: Dom certain things she does on TV, it's very clear
- 21:36Speaker 3: that she was an aj Lee fan and she was
- 21:39Speaker 3: at least somewhat influenced by aj Lee. That is a
- 21:43Speaker 3: natural match to do at some point. Becky Lynch, Becky
- 21:47Speaker 3: Lynch is the hero and now they're going right into
- 21:50Speaker 3: it with her and Becky Lynch. Becky Lynch is the
- 21:52Speaker 3: Intercontinental Champion. If aj pins Becky to win their mixed
- 21:56Speaker 3: tag match at Russell Palooza, she should automat be the
- 22:00Speaker 3: number one contender because if you beat the champion, you
- 22:03Speaker 3: get a title match. That's how it should work. Actually,
- 22:05Speaker 3: if you beat the champion, you should become the champion.
- 22:08Speaker 3: But when you have like a non title match or
- 22:10Speaker 3: a tag match, if you beat the champion, that's it.
- 22:13Speaker 3: You get vaulted up to that top spot. You're next
- 22:15Speaker 3: in line. You should be challenging for the championship. And
- 22:19Speaker 3: you got EO and you got Stephanie and Rhea, lots
- 22:23Speaker 3: of people for her to work with. And when I
- 22:26Speaker 3: say work, I'm not just talking like, oh, the actual matches,
- 22:29Speaker 3: but the stories and the mic work to build to
- 22:32Speaker 3: those matches, Like there's a lot of fun stuff for
- 22:34Speaker 3: them to do with her, so it was great to
- 22:36Speaker 3: see her back. I had one person during the review
- 22:39Speaker 3: on Friday night say, was that the greatest ending ever
- 22:43Speaker 3: to a SmackDown?
- 22:44Speaker 1: And I like it wasn't. It was a great ending.
- 22:48Speaker 3: It was a very memorable ending, and husband and wife
- 22:53Speaker 3: now own two of the more memorable returns in the
- 22:55Speaker 3: history of WWA. Was it the best ending on SmackDown ever?
- 23:00Speaker 3: It was not, but it was a great segment. I'll
- 23:03Speaker 3: talk more about SmackDown here in a second, but we
- 23:06Speaker 3: got to talk about the other women's championship because on
- 23:08Speaker 3: Monday we got a resolution to the Women's World Championship situation. Now,
- 23:14Speaker 3: when Naomi announced that she was pregnant, she was obviously
- 23:16Speaker 3: forced to vacate her title, So the title's been vacant
- 23:19Speaker 3: for a few weeks. Adam Pierce told Stephanie Vacaier a
- 23:22Speaker 3: couple weeks ago, I need another week.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Give me another week. I got to sort things out.
- 23:27Speaker 3: I got a name in mind, and then I'll let
- 23:29Speaker 3: you know who your opponent is going to be and
- 23:31Speaker 3: when your match is going to be for the Women's
- 23:33Speaker 3: World title. I don't know why Adam Pierce needed an
- 23:36Speaker 3: extra week to get it done in storyline other than
- 23:41Speaker 3: they really want to stack that Wressell Palooza card. I mean,
- 23:45Speaker 3: that's the real reason. They wanted to hold off as
- 23:48Speaker 3: long as possible. But in the end they went with
- 23:51Speaker 3: the sensible choice and they announced that at Wressell Palooza.
- 23:54Speaker 3: In fact, this was the first match officially announced with
- 23:56Speaker 3: that show. It will be the former champion Eo Sky
- 24:00Speaker 3: taking on Stephanie Vquaire to crowd a brand new Women's
- 24:03Speaker 3: World champion. Two women who were owed title matches by Naomi.
- 24:08Speaker 3: It only makes sense to let them fight one another.
- 24:11Speaker 3: The winner is the new champion. That's it again. You
- 24:14Speaker 3: didn't have to overcomplicate this. And on top of that,
- 24:17Speaker 3: we're gonna get a great fucking match between these two women.
- 24:20Speaker 3: They've wrestled on TV before, but never one on one
- 24:22Speaker 3: on a ple and you saw what Eo and Rhea
- 24:25Speaker 3: did at Evolution that was one of the best matches
- 24:27Speaker 3: all year. This could be that very much looking forward
- 24:32Speaker 3: to that match. At the end of the show on
- 24:35Speaker 3: Monday night, they set up the likely reunion of the
- 24:40Speaker 3: Usos because Jimmy Usso came to the aid of his
- 24:43Speaker 3: brother Jay Roman Reigns nowhere to be found, obviously because
- 24:46Speaker 3: they already wrote him off television. He has multiple rib
- 24:51Speaker 3: fractures after the heinous attack at Clash in Paris by
- 24:55Speaker 3: bron Breaker and Bronson Reid that is who Jimmy saved
- 24:59Speaker 3: j from at the end of the show show on Monday.
- 25:01Speaker 3: So it looks like we're heading towards usso's against Breaker
- 25:04Speaker 3: and Red at Russell Palooza. Basically, they're they're running back
- 25:09Speaker 3: the match they did at Summerslim. The only differences. Instead
- 25:11Speaker 3: of Roman Reigns, you get a lesser star in Jimmy USSO.
- 25:15Speaker 3: But the appeal here is that it's the usso's back together, right,
- 25:19Speaker 3: one of the great tag teams in ww in the
- 25:21Speaker 3: last twenty years are going to be reunited most likely,
- 25:25Speaker 3: and they can get some mileage out of that. You
- 25:27Speaker 3: know that you can get some mileage out of an
- 25:29Speaker 3: usso's reunion. So I mean, that's a fine, you know,
- 25:32Speaker 3: mid card match to have on that show. But then
- 25:35Speaker 3: we have John Cena, who is very much not mid card.
- 25:39Speaker 3: John Cena was Unsmackdown on Friday Night. It was his
- 25:41Speaker 3: final SmackDown. I did not know that until he said
- 25:45Speaker 3: that on TV on Friday Night. I knew was his
- 25:47Speaker 3: final Chicago appearance. They were in the very building where
- 25:51Speaker 3: he debuted twenty three years ago and shouted ruthless aggression
- 25:56Speaker 3: at Kurt Angle. I don't know why it sounded like
- 25:58Speaker 3: Vince McMahon there, but here he was full circle moment
- 26:02Speaker 3: back in Chicago. First appearance, last appearance. But I did
- 26:05Speaker 3: not know that it was also his final SmackDown. He
- 26:07Speaker 3: will not be on SmackDown at all for the remainder
- 26:10Speaker 3: of this retirement run. I tell you what, though about
- 26:13Speaker 3: Kurt Angle. I still get upset though when I think
- 26:16Speaker 3: that we could have had one last Sena Angle match
- 26:20Speaker 3: at WrestleMania a few years ago, but Vince McMahon insisted
- 26:24Speaker 3: on Baron Corbin instead, and it sucks we didn't get it.
- 26:29Speaker 3: And you know what, it sucks that we're not going
- 26:30Speaker 3: to get another Sena and Edge match because you know
- 26:32Speaker 3: that the Vege was still in WWE. Obviously Sena and
- 26:35Speaker 3: Edge would be working together during this retirement run. And
- 26:39Speaker 3: I think the two of them, just like Sena and
- 26:41Speaker 3: Orton and CNN Punk, I think the two of them
- 26:43Speaker 3: could still have a very good match together. You know,
- 26:46Speaker 3: maybe it wouldn't live up to some of the earlier
- 26:48Speaker 3: matches they had and that's not possible now, so that sucks.
- 26:53Speaker 3: But Sena came out there and he said, look, I
- 26:56Speaker 3: got no plan. I don't know what I'm going to say.
- 26:59Speaker 3: I didn't think about it, I didn't plan for anything.
- 27:01Speaker 3: I just wanted to come out here and just thank
- 27:03Speaker 3: all of you and just take it all in. And
- 27:06Speaker 3: he was ready to walk out when he was interrupted
- 27:08Speaker 3: by Sammy z Ain, the brand new United States champion,
- 27:13Speaker 3: who got booed out of the building. And I have
- 27:18Speaker 3: no idea where that came from. That was surprising to
- 27:23Speaker 3: hear the booze that loud for him. It's not like
- 27:26Speaker 3: there's been any hint of fan backlash towards him in
- 27:29Speaker 3: recent weeks.
- 27:30Speaker 1: You know, even Cody when.
- 27:32Speaker 3: He comes out sometimes he'll get some mild booze here
- 27:34Speaker 3: and there now, but this was just like boo like
- 27:37Speaker 3: thunderous booze overwhelming. Sammy's Ain, who was you know, he
- 27:40Speaker 3: was laughing and smiling at it, but you know that's
- 27:43Speaker 3: just him masking like what the fuck is going on here?
- 27:46Speaker 3: Because he didn't know what to say or how to react.
- 27:50Speaker 3: But yes, he just won the United States Championship from
- 27:52Speaker 3: Solo Soakoa, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
- 27:55Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 27:56Speaker 3: Maybe it was just a matter of interrupting Sina in
- 27:59Speaker 3: front of him, very pro Sena crob. But Sena was
- 28:02Speaker 3: about to leave anyway, so it's not like he interrupted
- 28:05Speaker 3: him in mid sentence.
- 28:07Speaker 1: You know, it was just very weird.
- 28:08Speaker 3: I'm assuming that was a one night thing in Chicago
- 28:11Speaker 3: and it's not going to carry over into other cities.
- 28:14Speaker 3: But Zay came out to mention how he made his
- 28:16Speaker 3: main roster debut against John Cena that was part of
- 28:19Speaker 3: the John Cena US Title Open Challenge that he was
- 28:21Speaker 3: doing ten years ago. Boy a lot of commemorating things
- 28:26Speaker 3: that happened ten years ago. So he wanted two things.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Number One, with seen his permission, he wanted to revive
- 28:33Speaker 3: the US Title Open Challenge to extend opportunities to people,
- 28:36Speaker 3: just like Sena did to him, and Sina loved that idea.
- 28:40Speaker 3: And two, he wanted to extend an invitation to John
- 28:43Speaker 3: Cena the way that Sina did to him. John Cena
- 28:47Speaker 3: against Sammy z Ain in Chicago for the United States Championship,
- 28:52Speaker 3: and Sena accepted. So we got an impromptu title match
- 28:54Speaker 3: with John Cena on TV. It was a great match too,
- 28:58Speaker 3: what I actually saw of it, because unfortunately they butchered
- 29:02Speaker 3: the match with commercials more so than usual on these shows,
- 29:07Speaker 3: and there were some big spots too that happened during
- 29:09Speaker 3: those breaks. It's like a lot of these matches when
- 29:11Speaker 3: they have the commercial breaks or the picture and picture,
- 29:14Speaker 3: you know, nothing of any significance happens. Like I'll be
- 29:17Speaker 3: watching Raw with the VPN and so I can see
- 29:20Speaker 3: during Raw, I can see on Netflix, you know what's
- 29:24Speaker 3: going on during the breaks, and nothing terribly important ever happens.
- 29:28Speaker 3: But there they were popping off some pretty big spots,
- 29:31Speaker 3: you know, during the commercial breaks. During this match, there
- 29:35Speaker 3: was a blue thunderbomb by Sammy into a near fall
- 29:37Speaker 3: on Sena. Later on, Scena got an ankle lock applied
- 29:41Speaker 3: and then the STFU Sammy went for the rope. Scena
- 29:44Speaker 3: drags him back to the center of the ring, and
- 29:46Speaker 3: it looks like the crowd is just going nuts in
- 29:48Speaker 3: the background, but I can't hear a fucking thing. I
- 29:52Speaker 3: can sure hear that BK theme. Sammy gave Sena an
- 29:57Speaker 3: attitude adjustment later for a near fall. All of This
- 29:59Speaker 3: happened during various commercials. We also got more callbacks to
- 30:04Speaker 3: see his past opponents with him using the Kevin Owens
- 30:06Speaker 3: pop up power bomb, the angle slam, which Michael Cole
- 30:10Speaker 3: called a backsuit plex. I have no idea how Cole
- 30:14Speaker 3: missed the significance of that spot in that building. He
- 30:18Speaker 3: also referred to a John Cena spear, which was clearly
- 30:23Speaker 3: an homage to Edge as somehow a sign of his
- 30:27Speaker 3: past battles with the Big Dog. Even seen on Instagram.
- 30:32Speaker 3: The next morning, he posted a photo. Yeah, Casina just
- 30:35Speaker 3: posts photos. He doesn't post anything else, and a lot
- 30:39Speaker 3: of times you have to figure out the context. It
- 30:41Speaker 3: didn't take much to figure out the context of this photo.
- 30:44Speaker 3: He just posted a photo of Edge standing in the corner,
- 30:47Speaker 3: crouched down, setting up for a spear. I don't know
- 30:51Speaker 3: what's going on with Michael Cole. He's been off lately.
- 30:54Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on there. But in the end,
- 30:57Speaker 3: a great US title match ruined by brock Lesner, who
- 31:02Speaker 3: came out beat up the referee F five. Sammy's ain
- 31:06Speaker 3: F five John Cena picked him up F five to
- 31:08Speaker 3: him again. Then in the back he told Sena that
- 31:11Speaker 3: he would see him at Wressell Palooza and he called
- 31:14Speaker 3: him a bitch. That Brock is going to be back
- 31:18Speaker 3: on SmackDown this Friday, So it'd be nice if he
- 31:21Speaker 3: had a little more to say than that, you know,
- 31:23Speaker 3: maybe talk about their history together, what it is about
- 31:27Speaker 3: Sena that he clearly doesn't like. Remember when he cut
- 31:30Speaker 3: that promo on Sena for their Summer Slim match and
- 31:34Speaker 3: said that he was was it the Summer Slam match
- 31:36Speaker 3: or was it the Extreme Rules match? I don't remember now,
- 31:40Speaker 3: but he cut that promo on Sena and he said
- 31:43Speaker 3: that he was going to leave him in a pile
- 31:44Speaker 3: of blood.
- 31:45Speaker 1: Urine and vomit.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Remember that kind of takes on a bit of a
- 31:49Speaker 3: different meaning now though, you know, did he want Sena
- 31:52Speaker 3: to text him video of him urinating on the pile
- 31:55Speaker 3: of blood and vomit? That we don't know, but just
- 31:58Speaker 3: give us something more than just the bare minute.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:00Speaker 3: I know, it's a big marquee match for them to promote.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Whether Brock says another word or not between now and then,
- 32:05Speaker 3: but we still have two weeks to go, and now
- 32:07Speaker 3: we know that John Seene is not going to be
- 32:09Speaker 3: on SmackDown again. They told us already he ain't going
- 32:12Speaker 3: to be on SmackDown, so it would be nice to
- 32:15Speaker 3: get something more than just a couple of sentences this Friday. Now,
- 32:19Speaker 3: between the opening scene of promo and the match with Sammy,
- 32:22Speaker 3: that ate up the first forty five minutes of the
- 32:24Speaker 3: show on Friday, But it was the best part of
- 32:26Speaker 3: the show outside of the ending. I will say about SmackDown,
- 32:30Speaker 3: you know, as much as everything in the middle felt
- 32:32Speaker 3: like complete filler. And I'm not even going to rant
- 32:36Speaker 3: again about the Julia stuff. If you want to hear
- 32:38Speaker 3: my rant on that, go listen to my SmackDown review.
- 32:41Speaker 3: But I will say that show flew by a lot
- 32:44Speaker 3: faster than it does most weeks. It was more fun
- 32:47Speaker 3: than SmackDown has been in weeks. They're also doing Randy
- 32:52Speaker 3: Orton against Drew McIntyre this Friday, which smells like a
- 32:56Speaker 3: Cody Rhodes return, and Tiffany Stratton defense the WWE Women's
- 33:01Speaker 3: Championship against Jade Cargill. Naya Jacks is still hanging around,
- 33:05Speaker 3: so I don't know what involvement she may end up
- 33:07Speaker 3: having there. I hope it's not her getting involved and
- 33:11Speaker 3: they throw the match away and then we get a
- 33:13Speaker 3: triple thread, because I can totally see it being a
- 33:16Speaker 3: triple thread. But back to Sina, we got some news.
- 33:21Speaker 3: WWE has announced that John Cena will make his final
- 33:25Speaker 3: appearances in Boston and New York City when Monday Night
- 33:29Speaker 3: Raw comes to the TD Garden on November tenth and
- 33:32Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden on November seventeenth November seventeen.
- 33:37Speaker 1: That's interesting.
- 33:38Speaker 3: WWE was a Madison Square Garden on November seventeenth and
- 33:41Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six for the Survivor series. It's where Sid
- 33:44Speaker 3: won the title from Seawn Michaels. Don't ask me how
- 33:48Speaker 3: I remember that. Some dates just stick with me. But
- 33:52Speaker 3: what's interesting about that is that means sena final match
- 33:55Speaker 3: in December on Saturday Night's main event will not be
- 33:59Speaker 3: taking place in Boston. According to John Alba of Sports Illustrated,
- 34:05Speaker 3: WWE has been trying to push seen his last match
- 34:08Speaker 3: as a destination weekend like they do for Wrestlemedia, so
- 34:12Speaker 3: they'll have some other events around the event, like an
- 34:15Speaker 3: Undertaker one man show. He says Boston badly wanted that
- 34:20Speaker 3: Saturday Night's main event show, and officials there made a strong.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Push for it.
- 34:25Speaker 3: WWE and TKO wanted seen his last match to be
- 34:28Speaker 3: a major destination event, and doing that in December in
- 34:32Speaker 3: Boston around the holidays isn't easy, but it was a
- 34:36Speaker 3: bidding process from the beginning in Boston simply lost out.
- 34:41Speaker 3: He says that Boston went hard for it, it didn't
- 34:44Speaker 3: come to pass, and they were very upset with how
- 34:47Speaker 3: WWE communicated the bidding process with them and some of
- 34:50Speaker 3: the demands in comparison to past events in Boston. Well,
- 34:56Speaker 3: that's how the bidding process works. When there's demand for
- 34:59Speaker 3: a big event, you're going to have to pay top
- 35:00Speaker 3: dollar or sweetened the pot to make it more attractive
- 35:03Speaker 3: to them. It sounds like Boston didn't step up and
- 35:05Speaker 3: now they're bitter about it.
- 35:07Speaker 1: So instead, we.
- 35:08Speaker 3: Now find out that Washington DC is likely to be
- 35:12Speaker 3: the site of John Cena's final match. And I was
- 35:15Speaker 3: thinking about that and said, I cannot think of a
- 35:17Speaker 3: single connection that John Cena specifically has to Washington DC,
- 35:25Speaker 3: except that one of his greatest rivals just so happens
- 35:30Speaker 3: to be from Washington, d C. The same night that
- 35:34Speaker 3: John Cena won his first WWE championship, this man won
- 35:37Speaker 3: his first World heavyweight Championship, and that would be Dave Batista. Now,
- 35:43Speaker 3: I am not saying that Batista is going to be
- 35:45Speaker 3: wrestling John Cena in his final match. Batista is retired.
- 35:48Speaker 3: When he says that he is retired, I believe him
- 35:51Speaker 3: one hundred percent. He wanted that match with Triple H.
- 35:54Speaker 3: He got that match with Triple H. That was six
- 35:57Speaker 3: years ago. He is not wrestling again, But if they
- 36:01Speaker 3: can make it work with his schedule, I think it
- 36:03Speaker 3: would be cool for him and very appropriate for him
- 36:05Speaker 3: to be a part of that show in some way.
- 36:07Speaker 1: You know, they were.
- 36:08Speaker 3: Both part of that OVW class of two thousand and two.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Batista made his SmackDown debut in May of that year.
- 36:14Speaker 3: Sina made his SmackDown debut the following month, and their
- 36:17Speaker 3: careers parallel each other in a lot of ways, right
- 36:21Speaker 3: on into the success that they're having in Hollywood. So
- 36:24Speaker 3: if they have any guests of honor and attendance that night,
- 36:27Speaker 3: and I'm sure they will, and if they can make
- 36:29Speaker 3: it work schedule wise, he should be one of the
- 36:31Speaker 3: people that's present in DC that night. There has been
- 36:36Speaker 3: a WWE commentary shakeup. Michael Cole and Corey Graves opened
- 36:41Speaker 3: up SmackDown on Friday Night, with Cole saying that he
- 36:43Speaker 3: and Corey would be handling the announced duties on Friday
- 36:46Speaker 3: nights for the coming months, and PW Insider is reporting
- 36:50Speaker 3: that the plan is for Cole and Corey to remain
- 36:53Speaker 3: on the Monday night Raw shows as well, So for
- 36:56Speaker 3: the time being, they are both going to be pulling
- 36:59Speaker 3: double duty e week because it's the start of the
- 37:02Speaker 3: college football season, you know, just like when Pat McAfee
- 37:05Speaker 3: would disappear for a few months, Joe Tessitore is going
- 37:07Speaker 3: to be doing the same because he's calling games on Saturdays.
- 37:12Speaker 3: But the bigger surprise is that in that same PW
- 37:15Speaker 3: Insider report, they said that Wade Barrett would be off
- 37:19Speaker 3: the road going forward and that he will not be
- 37:22Speaker 3: calling Raw now. Barrett later responded to the reports on
- 37:26Speaker 3: Twitter and people kind of twisting that around to mean
- 37:28Speaker 3: something that it really didn't mean, and he said, I
- 37:32Speaker 3: usually ignore BS reports like this, but it's causing needless
- 37:35Speaker 3: hate to be spewed towards people I work with. Wwe
- 37:39Speaker 3: have kindly given me a couple of weeks off for
- 37:41Speaker 3: personal time booked nine months ago, and then I'm back
- 37:45Speaker 3: to business as usual, a complete non story the end.
- 37:50Speaker 3: So there you have it from the man himself. He
- 37:52Speaker 3: is not going anywhere. He'll be back on TV before
- 37:55Speaker 3: the end of the month. Some people thought that it
- 37:57Speaker 3: might have to do with comments that Barrett made about
- 38:00Speaker 3: Nicky Bella on the Clash in Paris pre show, which
- 38:03Speaker 3: were such a non issue that I cannot believe this
- 38:06Speaker 3: turned into a story this week. I'm still waiting for
- 38:08Speaker 3: someone to tell me where the actual story is here.
- 38:11Speaker 3: But what happened is during the kickoff for Clash in Paris, Wade, Barrett,
- 38:17Speaker 3: Michael Cole, and Biggie were standing around. They were discussing
- 38:20Speaker 3: the Intercontinental Championship match between Nicky Bella and Becky Lynch,
- 38:24Speaker 3: and Wade took issue with Bella calling Becky desperate to
- 38:28Speaker 3: stay at the top and instead he said that Nicky
- 38:31Speaker 3: was the desperate one. She was desperate to recapture the
- 38:34Speaker 3: former glory that she once enjoyed back in her day,
- 38:37Speaker 3: back in her era. And Barrett, you know, he started
- 38:41Speaker 3: by praising Nicky for the work that she did back then,
- 38:43Speaker 3: but some people took issue when he implied that she was,
- 38:48Speaker 3: you know, rusty and didn't maybe didn't have it anymore,
- 38:51Speaker 3: and Nicki was desperate to prove that she could still
- 38:53Speaker 3: hang with this new generation. So Nicki addressed the comments
- 38:58Speaker 3: on a new episode of her podcast, The Nicky and
- 39:02Speaker 3: Bree Show, saying that she wanted to speak with him
- 39:05Speaker 3: at raw, but she claimed that he avoided her. She said,
- 39:09Speaker 3: I would like to have had a conversation with Wade Barrett.
- 39:12Speaker 3: He avoided me on Monday, which was shocking because he
- 39:14Speaker 3: always comes up and says hi to me. He tried
- 39:17Speaker 3: to avoid making eye contact with me in the hallway.
- 39:20Speaker 3: And I understand when you want to be a heel
- 39:22Speaker 3: commentator and stuff, but then there's one thing of Michael
- 39:26Speaker 3: Cole does this beautifully. This is why Michael Cole is
- 39:28Speaker 3: one of the greatest commentators. He knows how to take
- 39:31Speaker 3: a life story and put it into what we do
- 39:33Speaker 3: because that is real. We don't go out there as
- 39:36Speaker 3: robots or superheroes. We are actually professional athletes and we
- 39:40Speaker 3: go through real things and we have to make that
- 39:42Speaker 3: part of it. And honestly, it really doesn't bother me.
- 39:45Speaker 3: I get it. I was watching the pre show and
- 39:47Speaker 3: I saw what Wade was saying about me. I'm sitting
- 39:50Speaker 3: there getting ready in the locker room Like, that's fine.
- 39:54Speaker 3: Evidently it's not fine if she thought enough to bring
- 39:57Speaker 3: it up on her podcast. Were there fans saying anything
- 40:01Speaker 3: about this the night of Clash in Paris? Like, honestly,
- 40:05Speaker 3: I didn't see anything about that. I mean, I didn't
- 40:06Speaker 3: even hear what Wade said until yesterday. I hunted down
- 40:10Speaker 3: the clip and I'll just play it for you. I mean,
- 40:13Speaker 3: it's less than thirty seconds. You tell me what I'm
- 40:16Speaker 3: missing here?
- 40:17Speaker 1: Okay?
- 40:17Speaker 3: This is Wade Barrett on the Kickoff, in character as
- 40:21Speaker 3: everyone is on these things talking about Nicky Bella.
- 40:25Speaker 2: For me, Nicky Bella is someone I went through the
- 40:27Speaker 2: developmental system with. I think she's fantastic. She was absolutely
- 40:31Speaker 2: to my for my money, the best of her era
- 40:33Speaker 2: and did everything she could have possibly done. However, she
- 40:36Speaker 2: is now trying to recapture former glories. When you talk
- 40:40Speaker 2: about desperate, to me, the desperate one is Nicky Bella
- 40:43Speaker 2: in this situation, desperate to prove she still has it
- 40:47Speaker 2: against this new generation that have changed the way.
- 40:50Speaker 1: What am I missing? What am I missing here?
- 40:54Speaker 3: Have wrestlers and wrestling fans gone that soft? That totally
- 40:59Speaker 3: innocuous comment by a heeled commentator. I mean he didn't
- 41:01Speaker 3: even say anything offensive there. He put her over and
- 41:06Speaker 3: then played off of their storyline, like, have we gotten
- 41:08Speaker 3: to the point where if people don't find at least
- 41:11Speaker 3: three things to be offended by in the course of
- 41:14Speaker 3: the day, they don't know what to do with themselves?
- 41:17Speaker 3: Like do these people wake up and look in the
- 41:19Speaker 3: mirror and ask themselves, you know self, what can we
- 41:22Speaker 3: be offended by?
- 41:23Speaker 1: Today? I mean, it's ridiculous now.
- 41:29Speaker 3: Upon reading the comments that Nicky made, Barrett tweeted out,
- 41:33Speaker 3: I had no idea Nicole felt this way, and I'm
- 41:36Speaker 3: happy to have this conversation anytime she likes. I wish
- 41:40Speaker 3: she would have brought it up when we said hello
- 41:42Speaker 3: to each other at raw rather than via her podcast.
- 41:45Speaker 3: I don't understand the avoiding claim at all. Simply not true.
- 41:51Speaker 3: And a few hours later the beef was squashed and
- 41:53Speaker 3: he tweeted great news, fight fans. Nicky and I have spoken,
- 41:57Speaker 3: We've smoothed things over, and I have graciously been allowed
- 42:00Speaker 3: back into the Bela Army fully paid up members since
- 42:03Speaker 3: FCW two thousand and eight. A difference of perspective to
- 42:07Speaker 3: which we are all entitled, But to be clear, some
- 42:10Speaker 3: of the personal abuse that gets sent to Nikki on
- 42:13Speaker 3: here is reprehensible and completely out of line. So let's
- 42:16Speaker 3: cut that out immediately. Yeah, you know, it's one thing
- 42:20Speaker 3: to criticize her character or her matches. If you don't
- 42:24Speaker 3: like her, that's fine, But people on social media go
- 42:27Speaker 3: beyond that. They end up making it personal thinking that
- 42:30Speaker 3: you know, they can say anything they want to because
- 42:32Speaker 3: they're behind a keyboard. And you know, I noticed this
- 42:35Speaker 3: a lot, not always, but a.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Lot of the times.
- 42:38Speaker 3: You know, it's the ones that have like if you
- 42:40Speaker 3: look at their bio, it's like father of three or
- 42:45Speaker 3: Devout this or Devout that, like who end up saying
- 42:48Speaker 3: the most vile shit like that will never not be
- 42:52Speaker 3: funny to me, disturbing but funny. So I will co
- 42:58Speaker 3: sign that. But I still fail to see what it
- 43:00Speaker 3: was that he said that would have made her or
- 43:03Speaker 3: any other member of the bella Army upset. Like, after
- 43:07Speaker 3: I got done listening to that segment, I legitimately thought
- 43:09Speaker 3: that they cut off the actual offensive part. Maybe they
- 43:13Speaker 3: edited it out, like that's it. Am I missing something here?
- 43:19Speaker 3: But good for Corey Graves, you know, he went from
- 43:22Speaker 3: being upset about being demoted from the main roster shows
- 43:25Speaker 3: to NXT to now calling Raw and SmackDown for the
- 43:29Speaker 3: next few weeks, and I was gonna say, you know,
- 43:31Speaker 3: World's Collide also because he's done commentary for the last
- 43:34Speaker 3: two Triple A shows and he's been very good at it.
- 43:37Speaker 3: Worlds Collide is coming up this Friday, so if he's
- 43:41Speaker 3: calling SmackDown, he won't be calling Worlds Collide because Worlds
- 43:45Speaker 3: Collide starts immediately after SmackDown ends. SmackDown is in Norfolk,
- 43:49Speaker 3: Virginia this Friday. Worlds Collide is taking place in Las Vegas,
- 43:54Speaker 3: so maybe they get Vic Joseph to do the show.
- 43:57Speaker 3: The card for Worlds Collide is as follows. I think
- 44:00Speaker 3: it's a final at this point. In what they're dubbing
- 44:03Speaker 3: a Lucha showcase. Laparca Octagon Junior, Nino Hamburg, Gasa and
- 44:09Speaker 3: Mascarita Segrata take on Joaqui and Wild Cruz del Toro,
- 44:13Speaker 3: Lindsey Dorado and Many Abizmo Negro. I'm I'm gonna go
- 44:19Speaker 3: with a team Laparca for the win. We have the
- 44:22Speaker 3: Triple A Latin American Champion l Ejo de Doctor Wagner
- 44:26Speaker 3: Junior defending against Dragon Le JD. McDonough and Ethan Page
- 44:31Speaker 3: in a four way match. I think Doctor Wagner Junior
- 44:36Speaker 3: over here just won the championship, right, he just beat
- 44:38Speaker 3: Messius for it. Yeah, he ain't losing that title. Finn
- 44:43Speaker 3: Balor and Roxanepero again, Like, this is another one of
- 44:45Speaker 3: those Triple A cards where at least here it makes
- 44:49Speaker 3: sense because it's World's Collide. But you know, we're also
- 44:52Speaker 3: coming off Triple Mania where there were so many WWE
- 44:55Speaker 3: names in the card. It's like, my goodness, but we
- 44:59Speaker 3: have Finn Balor, Roxane Perez take on Mister Iguana and
- 45:02Speaker 3: Lola Wee in a mixed tag team match. I'm going
- 45:06Speaker 3: with Baler and Roxane here. Triple A Rena de Renas
- 45:11Speaker 3: Championship Number one Contenders match. Natalia takes on Fabe Apache.
- 45:19Speaker 3: Guess this is a fallout from what we saw at
- 45:21Speaker 3: the end of the title match at Triple Mania. I'm
- 45:24Speaker 3: going Natalia to become number one contender and the Triple
- 45:28Speaker 3: A World Tag Team titles on the line. Psycho Klon
- 45:31Speaker 3: and Pagano defend against Kofe Kingston and Xavier Woods, and
- 45:35Speaker 3: in the main event, the Triple A Mega Champion l
- 45:38Speaker 3: E Hodel Vikingo. Maybe he'll get a better reception in
- 45:42Speaker 3: Las Vegas than he did in Uh where were they?
- 45:44Speaker 3: Were they in Mexico City for Triple Mania. I don't
- 45:47Speaker 3: know if the Boo Birds will follow him to Sin City.
- 45:50Speaker 3: We'll find out. But Vi Kingo is going to defend
- 45:51Speaker 3: the championship against Dominic Mysterio, and my guess here is
- 45:57Speaker 3: that we see AJ styles yet again, even though we
- 45:59Speaker 3: already saw saw him cost Dom the title once at
- 46:02Speaker 3: Triple Mania. Their feud is obviously continuing though. You know now,
- 46:07Speaker 3: had Dom dropped the Intercontinental title to AJ on Raw
- 46:12Speaker 3: last week or this past week, I would have picked
- 46:15Speaker 3: Dom to go over here and win the championship. But
- 46:18Speaker 3: I can't do that now. I think the Kingo was winning.
- 46:20Speaker 3: See on Monday Elgrande Americano. He got involved in the
- 46:23Speaker 3: match with AJ and Dom slipped the metal plate under
- 46:26Speaker 3: his mask. He head butted AJ with it, and then
- 46:29Speaker 3: that led to Dom retaining the title. So Dom has
- 46:32Speaker 3: this understanding, this plan with Kaiser Style shows up foils
- 46:39Speaker 3: that plan, the Kingo hangs on and he retains the title.
- 46:44Speaker 3: That's how I see it going. If AJ is going
- 46:47Speaker 3: to take the Intercontinental title off of Dominic Wressell Palooza
- 46:51Speaker 3: feels like the place to do it. That way, you
- 46:53Speaker 3: can do a title change on that first ESPN show,
- 46:56Speaker 3: So don't be surprised to see that match added to
- 46:59Speaker 3: the pl Now, as far as World's Collide, I'm not
- 47:02Speaker 3: staying up for it that night. I will be live
- 47:04Speaker 3: on YouTube as usual when SmackDown is over and we
- 47:07Speaker 3: will do the full review. We had a full house
- 47:10Speaker 3: this past Friday, big night on SmackDown. Hopefully that will
- 47:14Speaker 3: carry over on the stream this coming week. And this
- 47:18Speaker 3: is an interesting little anecdote here that I thought I
- 47:21Speaker 3: would share. The Godfather was in attendance for Vince McMahon's
- 47:26Speaker 3: eightieth birthday party a few weeks ago, said he had
- 47:30Speaker 3: a great time on his Poddon Ain't Easy podcast. Today
- 47:36Speaker 3: I learned that the Godfather has his own podcast.
- 47:40Speaker 1: I did not know that.
- 47:42Speaker 3: He said he and his wife were invited guests for
- 47:45Speaker 3: the celebration, which took place at the five star Baccarat
- 47:48Speaker 3: Hotel in New York City. He noted that McMahon paid
- 47:52Speaker 3: for everything for his guests, including the hotel rooms and
- 47:55Speaker 3: a wide range of activities around the city, including tickets
- 47:59Speaker 3: to a New York Yankee versus Boston Red Sox game.
- 48:02Speaker 3: He said, I'm not gonna mention everybody who was there,
- 48:05Speaker 3: but of course Taker was there, Cain was there, Bradshaw
- 48:09Speaker 3: was there. We had a good time. Sina was there,
- 48:13Speaker 3: Jelly Roll performed. I know Jerry Lawler was there because
- 48:18Speaker 3: he posted a photo on his Instagram of him with
- 48:21Speaker 3: some of the other wrestlers there and then took it
- 48:23Speaker 3: down later because evidently they didn't want any of this
- 48:26Speaker 3: to get out, so somebody got to Lawler and said
- 48:29Speaker 3: take that down. But you know, you could see. Drew
- 48:31Speaker 3: McIntyre was there, Seamus was there, the mizz and Maurice,
- 48:35Speaker 3: Titus O'Neill. But Godfather says he ran into McMahon as
- 48:40Speaker 3: he was entering the cocktail party, and he mentioned that
- 48:43Speaker 3: Vince was wearing a suit that made both him and
- 48:46Speaker 3: the Undertaker think of Doctor Evil from the Austin Powers movies.
- 48:52Speaker 3: He says, I'm like, Vince, thank you for inviting me,
- 48:56Speaker 3: and Vince goes Choys, you're.
- 48:59Speaker 1: Just varant you to build it. Nobody here that's not
- 49:03Speaker 1: or even invited doctor Gordon to.
- 49:05Speaker 3: Be here, Freaking doctor Gordon man. Anyway, he says, uh we,
- 49:11Speaker 3: I just do it to crack myself up.
- 49:13Speaker 1: He says.
- 49:14Speaker 3: We talked for a second and then we walked in,
- 49:17Speaker 3: but he had on like a Doctor Evil suit. I
- 49:20Speaker 3: didn't want to say it to him first. First of all,
- 49:23Speaker 3: he looked better than when I've seen pictures of him lately.
- 49:25Speaker 3: He looks a lot better than that. He's walking a
- 49:28Speaker 3: lot better. He introduced me to his girlfriend or whatever
- 49:32Speaker 3: she was. Yeah, whatever she was. Who knows what kind
- 49:37Speaker 3: of arrangement that is. I don't want to know, But
- 49:41Speaker 3: I thought, Doctor Evil, your Doctor Evil.
- 49:44Speaker 1: I go in.
- 49:45Speaker 3: Everybody, of course, is talking to Vince. Me and Taker
- 49:47Speaker 3: and Kine are talking and Vince walks away, and Taker goes, dude,
- 49:52Speaker 3: Vince is looking like Doctor Evil. I'm like, dude, That's
- 49:56Speaker 3: exactly what I was thinking. Vince McMahon being stuff like
- 50:00Speaker 3: Doctor Evil is perfectly on brand for Vince McMahon. I
- 50:05Speaker 3: wouldn't even be surprised if he just saw Austin Powers
- 50:08Speaker 3: for the first time, and he thought that it would
- 50:10Speaker 3: be fashionable to dress up as Doctor Evil. But Godfather
- 50:14Speaker 3: also shared that he decided to get a facial for
- 50:18Speaker 3: the first time. Said, I get there and I get
- 50:21Speaker 3: in my own little room, and I get my little
- 50:23Speaker 3: robond and my little Foo Fu slippers. I opened the
- 50:27Speaker 3: door the room across from me. The door opens up.
- 50:30Speaker 1: Who is it?
- 50:31Speaker 3: The Undertaker? And he says They looked at each other
- 50:35Speaker 3: in disbelief before having a laugh.
- 50:38Speaker 1: I go facial. He I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
- 50:46Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, I should clarify that he is referring
- 50:51Speaker 3: to a SPA treatment. Facial can have a very different
- 50:55Speaker 3: meeting at a Vince McMahon party. The idea of Godfather
- 50:59Speaker 3: asking Undertaker facial, Holy shit. That is one fanfic that
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- 54:17Speaker 3: up the Wrestle Palooza card for September twenty if Tony
- 54:20Speaker 3: Khan made the only decision that he could if he
- 54:23Speaker 3: was going to make any kind of move to help
- 54:24Speaker 3: maximize the audience for All Out, which was to move
- 54:28Speaker 3: the time of the pay per view up, and that's
- 54:31Speaker 3: exactly what he did. Basically, WWE said, I dare you,
- 54:35Speaker 3: and Tony blinked. But it was the right move to
- 54:38Speaker 3: make All Out will now air at three pm Eastern
- 54:41Speaker 3: time and not the originally scheduled eight pm Eastern from Toronto,
- 54:46Speaker 3: to avoid what would have been a very costly head
- 54:49Speaker 3: to head battle that they would have lost.
- 54:51Speaker 1: Let's just be honest.
- 54:53Speaker 3: The sickos may be watching no matter what, but there
- 54:56Speaker 3: are other fans who watch both who were now forced
- 54:58Speaker 3: to make a choice, and Tony decided it simply wasn't
- 55:02Speaker 3: worth it to risk losing hundreds of thousands of dollars,
- 55:05Speaker 3: you know, in pay per view money, not to mention
- 55:07Speaker 3: the fact that All Out will be aw's pay per
- 55:10Speaker 3: view debut on HBO Max, which I will be getting
- 55:14Speaker 3: to here in a minute. If you want to get
- 55:16Speaker 3: as many people as possible tuning into that first pay
- 55:18Speaker 3: per view on Max, WWE was not going to make
- 55:21Speaker 3: that easy. I mean, as it is, there's still going
- 55:23Speaker 3: to be some overlap because Russell Palusa starts at seven
- 55:26Speaker 3: Eastern and it's going to be a cold day in
- 55:29Speaker 3: hell before Tony Khan ends an AW pay per view
- 55:32Speaker 3: after just four hours. Okay, so that ain't going to happen.
- 55:37Speaker 3: So either the main event or the final two matches
- 55:40Speaker 3: are going to go head to head with the start
- 55:42Speaker 3: of the WWE show. But this was a business decision,
- 55:45Speaker 3: pure and simple. Anyone beating up on Tony Khan for
- 55:47Speaker 3: doing this or mocking him for tucking tail and running
- 55:51Speaker 3: like it was a smart business decision. Fight Full is
- 55:56Speaker 3: also saying that after the successor Forbidden Door airing in
- 55:59Speaker 3: the afternoon, that contributed to their decision to move the
- 56:02Speaker 3: start time of the show. I mean, it may have
- 56:05Speaker 3: made them feel better about the decision to move the show,
- 56:09Speaker 3: but that is not the reason they moved All Out.
- 56:11Speaker 3: No matter what anybody says, that is not the reason
- 56:14Speaker 3: that All Out moved. Now, AW afternoon shows are for
- 56:18Speaker 3: me anyway. It's so much better because again Tony insists
- 56:21Speaker 3: on loading these shows up to the gills, which means
- 56:24Speaker 3: marathon shows. And while they are still too long most
- 56:28Speaker 3: of the time, they're a lot more tolerable in the
- 56:30Speaker 3: afternoon going long than they are if they were.
- 56:33Speaker 1: To go long at night, right, and if you.
- 56:35Speaker 3: Would like to go long at night like AAW, you
- 56:37Speaker 3: need blue Chew. You know, I'm offended that they've never
- 56:41Speaker 3: reached out to me in all these years is to
- 56:43Speaker 3: be a sponsor, like I really am. But now, the
- 56:46Speaker 3: length of those shows they're just obnoxious. So watching them
- 56:50Speaker 3: in the afternoon is preferable for me. For me as
- 56:53Speaker 3: a fan and as a content creator, I love it,
- 56:56Speaker 3: see because now I'll be able to watch most of
- 56:58Speaker 3: the AW show live and I'm going to go right
- 57:01Speaker 3: into Russell Palooza, which I will review that night, and
- 57:05Speaker 3: I'll save my all out review for the SoundOff on Sunday.
- 57:09Speaker 3: You know, now, who this is not so good for
- 57:11Speaker 3: are the fans who already bought tickets for the show
- 57:13Speaker 3: and now they can't go for whatever reason. They have
- 57:17Speaker 3: to work during the day, they have other plans even
- 57:21Speaker 3: worse if they're not local and they're flying in for
- 57:23Speaker 3: the show. If you can't make the show, and I'm
- 57:25Speaker 3: sure you can get a refund on whatever you paid
- 57:27Speaker 3: for your ticket. Same for your hotel. Actually, with your hotel,
- 57:31Speaker 3: you're usually not built until that week anyway, but that
- 57:34Speaker 3: may not be the case for your flight unless you
- 57:37Speaker 3: paid for a refundable ticket or tickets if you're going
- 57:41Speaker 3: with friends or family. Those people just got fucked and
- 57:45Speaker 3: they have every right to be upset. Thankfully, I'm not
- 57:48Speaker 3: one of those people, so it's okay with me. But
- 57:52Speaker 3: because of the all out time change, Collision will only
- 57:55Speaker 3: be an hour that week, and it's going to be
- 57:56Speaker 3: airing on Wednesday at ten pm Eastern, immediately following Dynamite,
- 58:01Speaker 3: it's going to be a three hour block. They're calling
- 58:03Speaker 3: September to remember.
- 58:06Speaker 1: Boy.
- 58:07Speaker 3: ECW be getting all the love from all the major
- 58:10Speaker 3: companies this month. Huh Aw trademarked the name back on
- 58:14Speaker 3: April eighteenth. It is a play off the old ECW
- 58:18Speaker 3: November to remember pay per view. Tony Kahn was a
- 58:21Speaker 3: huge ECW fan back in the day, which is one
- 58:24Speaker 3: of the reasons they just finished a residency at the
- 58:26Speaker 3: twenty three hundred Arena last night. Tony had been there
- 58:30Speaker 3: with his dad when he was a teenager in nineteen
- 58:32Speaker 3: ninety six. This was his first time back in the
- 58:35Speaker 3: building in almost three decades. So that's one programming change.
- 58:40Speaker 3: Another change is that TNT is airing an hour called
- 58:42Speaker 3: AW Saturday Tailgate Brawl at two PM the day of
- 58:47Speaker 3: All Out, so an hour before the pay per view starts.
- 58:50Speaker 3: That will be the last hour of their Zero Hour
- 58:53Speaker 3: pre show, so it'll be the first time that the
- 58:56Speaker 3: Zero Hour or part of it airs.
- 58:59Speaker 1: Live on television.
- 59:01Speaker 3: And I'm just I'm looking at this and I'm reading
- 59:03Speaker 3: all of this stuff, and I'm just like, man, if
- 59:05Speaker 3: you're a wrestling fanatic, if you're a wrestling savant, and
- 59:09Speaker 3: you want to watch everything that day, that zero Hour
- 59:13Speaker 3: is probably starting your one thirty in the afternoon. If
- 59:16Speaker 3: you watch all of the AW content and you go
- 59:19Speaker 3: right into the WWE show, that's over nine straight hours
- 59:23Speaker 3: of wrestling. I don't know why anybody would do that,
- 59:28Speaker 3: but I'm sure there is some people who will.
- 59:32Speaker 1: Now.
- 59:32Speaker 3: The other big AW announcement had to do with them
- 59:35Speaker 3: finally airing their live pay per views on HBO Max
- 59:39Speaker 3: in the United States. Max will not be the exclusive
- 59:42Speaker 3: home of all AW pay per views. You will still
- 59:44Speaker 3: be able to buy the show on other platforms like
- 59:47Speaker 3: Amazon Prime and YouTube. But starting with All Out, you
- 59:50Speaker 3: can buy the pay per views at a discounted rate
- 59:53Speaker 3: of thirty nine to ninety nine per show on HBO Max.
- 59:57Speaker 3: That is on top of your subscription feed for Max itself.
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: So this is not a peacock deal where you just
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: subscribe to HBO Max and you get all the pay
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: per views for no additional charge. And that was never
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: the case. Nobody should have thought that would be the case.
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: They made very clear last year that was not how
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: this was going to work, only that you would be
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: able to buy the shows at some sort of discount.
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: On other platforms they charge fifty bucks for the show,
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: at least here in the US they do. If you
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: don't already subscribe to HBO Max and you don't plan
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: to use it for anything except the pay per views,
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: the so called discount really isn't it really just offsets
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: the fee for the most basic subscription tier, which comes
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: with ADS, so it's really not much of a discount
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: at all. Basically, there's three tiers here. The basic tier
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: with ADS is nine to ninety nine a month or
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: ninety nine ninety nine a year, The Standard tier is
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: sixteen ninety nine a month, and the Premium tier is
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: twenty ninety nine a month. You use Max to watch
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: Dynamite in Collision, or decide to use Max from now
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: on to watch the weekly shows, then it's worth it
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: if that means you can ditch cable or satellite. But
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: if you're still paying for cable just to watch aw
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: and I don't know how many people fall into that category,
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: but let's say you are one of those people, you
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: need to stop doing that immediately, like what the hell
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: is wrong with you? I would hope that you're watching
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: other things on there. Otherwise I don't know how you
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: can justify still paying for cable. But then you add
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: in the archives. If that's something that you're interested in
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: going back and watching the glory days of Dynamite and
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: the older pay per views, then it's worth it because
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: of all the additional content that you'll have access to,
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: But I think that thirty nine to ninety nine price
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: point is a big misfire, especially for the first show
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: on Max. Like I said this on TNT on Tuesday Night,
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: before all of this was even announced, I would have
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: even considered offering all out for free only to people
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: who want on HBO Max. That was before they said this,
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: before they moved the start time of the show to
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: avoid WWE. If they were still going head to head
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: with WWE, as sort of a nice fuck you to them,
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: I would have done something like that as a way
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: to entice people to subscribe to Max if they're not
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: already on there. Tony would have taken a big hit
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: on his pay per view money, though, so he may
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: not have felt like it was worth it. I'm just
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: looking at it from the perspective of if he wanted
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: to make the best possible impression on his partners at
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: Warner Brothers Discovery and try to maximize that audience on
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: Max and really impress them, that would have been the
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: move to make. And then going forward, I would have
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: priced the shows at thirty bucks per show. That would
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: be twenty dollars less than what you would pay elsewhere,
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: and that's a much bigger savings without giving away the store,
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: which is what it would have been. Yeah, if you
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: did it at twenty bucks or twenty five bucks, sure
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: that would have been great. Saving ten dollars a month
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: over the course of a year is a savings of
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty dollars, which is not an insignificant
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: amount of money. But I think pricing them out at
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: forty a pop is just the missed opportunity. Now, who
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: made the call? Was it Tony Khan? Was it Warner
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: Brothers Discovery? I doubt very seriously that it was a
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: unilateral call by Tony Khan himself, so who knows how
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: much say he had in that price point. But for
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: the people who are upset that they have to pay
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: anything at all, I think a lot of us were
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: spoiled by the WWE network. You know, when the network
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: launched in twenty fourteen, being able to get all the
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: pay per views, including WrestleMania, all for just nine to
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: ninety nine a month. Plus on top of that, you
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: got the library, which was a big deal to a
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: lot of people, and it just immediately made pay per
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: view obsolete for a lot of fans. It's the same
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: thing with Peacock, you just take for granted that you
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: are paying for a Peacock subscription and you can just
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: log in and watch WrestleMania. You know, antiquated as the
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: pay per view model may be, it's the life blood
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: of AAW. I mean, outside of their media rights money.
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: It's the life blood of AAWAW has always operated under
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: a pay per view model. They make a lot of
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: money on pay per view, hundreds of thousands of dollars,
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: millions even, and then each platform gets a cut. So
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that AW gets millions of dollars off
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: every show all for themselves.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: But think about it.
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: At forty nine to ninety nine per show, right all
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: in Texas was said to be somewhere in the range
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: of one hundred and eighty to one hundred and eighty
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: five thousand pay per view buys. That's over nine million
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: dollars in pay per view revenue with another three million
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: dollars in gate revenue. And you wonder why AAW still
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: does pay per views. That's why it is still a
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: lucrative business for them. So you consider that and the
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: fact that they signed a six hundred million dollar media
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: rights deal with Warner One thing you can't say about
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: AAW is that the company isn't generating income. Now, are
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: they turning a profit? Are they spending more than their
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: taking in? That's a different question, But they know how
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: to generate money off these pay per views. One thing
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: they did not generate much of this week was a
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: television audience. It was a terrible week in general for
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: wrestling ratings on TV. Raw did a record low audience,
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: apparently on Netflix, but it also aired six hours earlier
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: than usual because they were in France, So I don't
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: really put a lot of stock into that. SmackDown the
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: week before aired on a five hour tape delay, but
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like tape shows always do this badly.
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: SmackDown did not do well that week. The Clash in
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: Paris Go Home show that week did just one point
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: one million viewers on USA Network, which for WWE is
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: not a great number. Dynamite though this past week did
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: far worse, and I don't talk much about the ratings
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: in general. But I don't talk much about the Dynamite
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: ratings anymore because there's really no point in doing so,
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: since everyone will just point to Max and assume that
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: they must be doing five million people on HBO Max.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: So everything is all fine and dandy, but I can't
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: not talk about this. Dynamite did its lowest numbers ever
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: in the history of the show on its regular date
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: and time, and that is without knowing what they're doing
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: on HBO Max. But I don't care what they're doing
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: on HBO Max. I promise you. That does not explain
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: why the show took a fucking noseedive this week on TBS,
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: other than people just didn't give a shit about Dynamite
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: this week. Something about the show turned them off in
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: a way that it hasn't turned them off before, because
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: I have never seen a Dynamite number this low before
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: on a Wednesday night. It just never happened before. They
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: did just four hundred and seventy two thousand viewers on TBS.
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: That is a twenty percent drop from the week prior,
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: zero point one point one in the eighteen to forty
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: nine demo, which is the second lowest number in the
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: history of the show, regardless of the day in time.
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: And there was nothing on television that night that would
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: explain that kind of drop. That's coming off Collision doing
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: its lowest numbers in the history of the show. They
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: did just one hundred and ninety five thousand viewers on
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: TNT last weekend, excluding Max numbers, But at least there
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: they had college football competition, which is a very legitimate
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: thing to point to because it's college football season, so
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: they're going to take a hit, and it looks just
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: like WWE is going to take a big hit from
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: Monday Night football. We go through this every single year
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: in September. That's the reason why Netflix is bumping up
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: the start time for Raw not Tomorrow night, but for
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: the next three weeks after that. The show starts at
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: seven Eastern instead of eight. But none of this explains
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: the Dynamite collapsed week And look, the ratings don't dictate
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: your level of enjoyment of the shows. If you're liking
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: what you were seeing on Wednesday nights, then these numbers
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: they don't matter to you, But they do matter to
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: the people who run the show and air the show. Right,
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: there are some important people who do pay attention to
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. And I can tell you just
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: from personal experience. I feel it on Wednesday nights when
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: I talk about Dynamite too, and the audience that's you know,
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: there for those streams relative to the streams on Mondays
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: and Fridays, and god knows backdown hasn't been great for
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: a while. Now let me forget this week. But it's
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: a noticeable difference, you know, when you look at Wednesdays
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: as opposed to Mondays and Fridays. And that's one small
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: sample size, but I see it. At the end of
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: the day. It comes down to creative and giving people
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: a product that they want to tune into. And when
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: those numbers drop and there's no external factor to point
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: to to explain it away, you need to look from within.
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: I don't know if Tony has the capacity to do that.
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: He likes what he likes and he thinks Dynamite is
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: better than ever. He thinks it's the best it's ever been.
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: The numbers say otherwise, The attendance says otherwise. I said
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: this months ago. If there really is some kind of
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: big turnaround with the product, because Tony has made comments
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: about how, you know, everything's on the rise and things
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: are great and things are better than ever, well, you
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: know what, if that's true, then it should be reflected
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: in the attendance first and foremost, and them starting to
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: run bigger buildings again for their weekly shows. That would
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: be a telltale sign. That will be the key sign,
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: because if they think that they're ready to pack in
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: five or six or seven thousand people a week in
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: bigger venues, they would already be doing it. Here we
- 1:09:53Speaker 3: are five months later since I first heard these comments
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: and being made about how great everything is. Five months
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: later and there's still running small venues in getting one
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: thousand fans two thousand fans a week. They don't have
- 1:10:06Speaker 3: the confidence to run those bigger buildings like they used to.
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: They don't they do for their pay per views. They
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: can put ten thousand people in a building for all Out,
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: No Problem, or twenty thousand in the two in London
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: for forbidden Door, No Problem, or thirty thousand at Globalife
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: Field in Texas for all in, No Problem. That's never
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: really been an issue for them. But it's those weekly
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: shows that people just don't care enough about to buy
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: a ticket to go see. I know a lot of
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: AW fans they don't like hearing that. They think that
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: AW can do no wrong. But tell me what I'm
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: telling lies. You know the twenty three hundred arena, it's
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: a nice slice of history for a week or two
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: Arena Mexico. Right that Grand Slam show back in June,
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: that was great. It looked great on television. It sounds
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: like they're probably going to do another residency in December
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: at the Ammerstein Ballroom in New York City.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: That's great.
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: Where's the Key of Forum. Where's the Prudential Center in Newark?
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: Where are some of these places that they have run
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: multiple times for Dynamite in the past. It's been a
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: while since they've run there. How come they haven't gone back.
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: It's because they don't have the confidence that they can
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: do it in those buildings now like they did back then.
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: Which is not to say that they were selling them
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: out then, But that's the thing that I've been looking for.
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: When do they start running venues like that again on
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: a regular basis? You know, when does it make sense
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: to run those buildings again? It makes sense to run
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: the more intimate, smaller venues if they know they cannot
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: fill up the bigger ones. You know, some of them
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: come across really well on TV and they look cool.
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: That's great. I wish WWE would do that from time
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: to time. But like WWE running Hammerstein, that would be
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: a trip but it makes no sense right now where
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: they could promote Nick Kahn taking a dump in the
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: middle of the ring and their fans are still going
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: to buy up those tickets, twelve thousand fucking tickets at
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: prices five hundred percent higher than they used to be.
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: They're not going to run the smaller venues because it
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense for them to do so. But
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: the question has to be asked, why are those people
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: who were buying tickets before not buying them now? Are
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: they asking those questions? Do they even care? Aw was
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: back at the twenty three hundred Arena for Dynamite on Wednesday,
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: which ended with a major injury angle to write Kenny
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: Omega off television for a while. It was Kenny Omega,
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: Hangman Page and Jet Speed against Kyle Fletcher, Josh Alexander
- 1:12:49Speaker 3: and the Young Bucks that ended with Fletcher pinning Kevin
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: Knight to win it for the Don Kallis family. After
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: the match, they had Fletcher supplex Kenny off the Apron
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: through a table, which I mean maybe thirty years ago
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: would be a six month layoff, but in today's wrestling,
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: both men would normally beat the count back into the
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: ring by nine here though they used the suplex through
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: a table as a way to write Omega off TV.
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: That was my impression watching it, and that they were
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: setting up for Kyle Fletcher to challenge Hangman Page at
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: All Out for the AW World Championship. And I had
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: some people in the comments on Wednesday telling me, no,
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: they're setting up Fletcher and Omega for All Out, but
- 1:13:30Speaker 3: that would mean Omega would have to be back on
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: TV within the next two weeks, which would be very dumb.
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: Last night on Collision, they did in fact confirm that
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: it will be Kyle Fletcher challenging Hangman. Adam Page, the
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: TNT champion, has called out the AW World Champion for
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: an AW World Championship match at All Out. And now
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: we also get reports from Fightful and The Wrestling Observer
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: that confirm Kenny Omega is taking time away to care
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: for a few things, or take or take care of
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: a few things, one of which, according to Fightful is
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: the Tokyo Game Show, and that is a gaming festival
- 1:14:09Speaker 3: that kicks off September twenty fifth. Fightful says the break
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: is not injury related, but Meltzer is reporting that he
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: is going to Japan to also see some of his
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: doctors there also to get his Japanese visa updated and
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: to do other media, including to talk about Hiroshi Tanahashi,
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: who is retiring of course, at the Tokyo Dome on
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: January fourth. So this would be the second straight all
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: out pay per view that Omega has missed. His last
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: All Out was twenty twenty three. That was when he
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: lost to Kenoski Takeshda. Omega responded to the reports and
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: the idea of him taking quote time off. He took
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: issue with that phrasing, saying time off specialized hospital visits
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: and work that had been planned for a year. But sure,
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: let's bait the trolls. I'm just trying to improve what
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: I can and represent the company in a positive way
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: while not performing. Don't be misleading with headlines, please and
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: thank you. On Dynamite this Wednesday, Hangman is wrestling Josh
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: Alexander and what they are billing as a grudge match.
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: Alexander has now won three straight All Star eight man tags,
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: getting the winning fall in two of the three. Tony
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: does love his All Star matches, and you know, look,
- 1:15:24Speaker 3: it's bad enough that they have the competition from Russell
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: Palouza that day to deal with and they felt they
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: had to move the pay per view up by five hours,
- 1:15:32Speaker 3: but they were already going in with a handicap because
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: they're without Will Ospry, They're without Swerve Strickland, and now
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: they won't even have Kenny Omega. That's three of their
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: top babyfass who will not be on the show. That's
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: a tough deal. But confirmed so far for the pay
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: per view is Adam Copeland and Christian Cage against FTR
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: Ricochet in the Gates of Agony against Bobby Lashley's Shelton
- 1:15:59Speaker 3: Benjamin and v Mercedes Monet will defend her TBS Championship
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: against ReHO. Yes, the same ReHO that has not wrestled
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: the match since July of last year when she broke
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: her wrist on collision, shows up and gets awarded a
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: TBS Championship match. Not that any of this matters. She's
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: just another victim for Mercedes to conquer on her road
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: to five hundred and nine days as the TBS Champion.
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: She's at four seventy right now. She needs to get
- 1:16:32Speaker 3: to five h nine to become the longest reigning TBS
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: champion of all time, which will happen we just had
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: Athena past one thousand days as the Ring of Honor
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: Women's champion. When you get that close the record wolf
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: fall and also confirmed now after collision last night there
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: was a women's It must have been an all star match.
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if Tony didn't build it as an
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: all star match. But there was a women's tag match
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: last night involving the Triangle of Madness, and Tony Storm
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: was there or Statlander and anyway we are getting a
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: four way match because I've been wondering who the hell
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: is Tony Storm going to defend her Women's.
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: World title against? It all out?
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: They haven't set anybody up for it. Well, now we
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: know it's going to be a four way match for
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: the aw Women's World Championship with Tony Storm defending against
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: Jamie Hayter, Chris Statlander and Tecla, which sounds like an
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: excellent match. I can't hate on that. Jamie Hater and
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: Tony Storm should have been a long term singles direction
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: with any hope it still will be. I was not
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: expecting them to be in the ring together on this
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: pay per view, But you take those four women and
- 1:17:47Speaker 3: put them in the ring together and that should be
- 1:17:50Speaker 3: a hell of a match. And I'll tell you what,
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked to see a title change there.
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: I really wouldn't.
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: And of all the people in that match who could
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: potentially take that championship from Tony, I got my eye
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: on Chris Statlander. Now we know the Death Riders have
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: been trying to recruit her. I think she actually won
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: that match last night with the wheeler you'd a seat
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: belt pin And again, you know, I just I really
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: hope we're not seriously considering adding new members to the
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: Death Riders. I mean, they It just doesn't It doesn't
- 1:18:22Speaker 3: do anything for me that group at this point. But
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: if they want to put a spotlight on Chris Statlander
- 1:18:29Speaker 3: and possibly put that championship on her and gave her
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: a run with it, I can get behind that. If
- 1:18:35Speaker 3: Tony was to lose, she's the one who I think
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: would would walk out of that match with that championship. Now,
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: we also knew coming into Collision last night that Mark
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: Briscoe was going to be wrestling Kenoski Takeshta. Right he
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: already beat Lance Archer. He had to beat Takeshta to
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: earn the right to challenge Kyle Fletcher for the TNT Championship.
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: Once Kyle Fletcher threw down the gauntlet to Hangman Page
- 1:19:02Speaker 3: for a World Championship match at All Out, it kind
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: of gave away the fact that we weren't getting Kyle
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: Fletcher and Mark Briscoe, so they kind of in a way,
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: they kind of spoiled it.
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: But I told you what we talked about Dynamite on Wednesday.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: For the people that.
- 1:19:17Speaker 3: Were with me for the review, I said, they're going
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: to do this match on collision. This is probably where
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: MJF is going to show up, and this is where
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: MJF is going to cost Mark brisco And he is
- 1:19:30Speaker 3: not going to beat Takeshta, which means he is not
- 1:19:32Speaker 3: getting a TNT Championship match with Kyle Fletcher because he
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: was never going to get ATNT title match with Kyle Fletcher.
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: And MJF is an interesting one because he is defending
- 1:19:45Speaker 3: his CMLL title against Mystico the night before All Out
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: at Arena Mexico, and I fully expect he will be
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: losing that championship at Arena Mexico, So he's going to
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: be traveling from Arena mex Ago late that Friday to
- 1:20:04Speaker 3: get to Toronto for the pay per view, which is
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: now rescheduled for earlier in the day on Saturday, which
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: is not impossible, but that's going to be a bit
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: of a travel day for him. But MJF just got
- 1:20:15Speaker 3: married this past Friday to Alicia Atout. Tony Kahan was
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: at the wedding, as were many names from the aw roster.
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: I did see the hangman hiding in the background the
- 1:20:29Speaker 3: ring of honor death before Dishonor pay per view that
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: just took place was originally scheduled for September fifth, and
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: then this was back in July. It suddenly got moved
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: and I think this was before tickets went on sale,
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: but they moved it back a week to August twenty ninth,
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: and no reason was given at the time other than
- 1:20:47Speaker 3: there was an item in the Observer where Melter said
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: that Tony Khan had never missed a TV before and
- 1:20:53Speaker 3: it would have been impossible for him to be at
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: the show because he had a wedding that he was
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: committed to. He just decided to move the entire pay
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: per view. Now we know whose wedding it was. It
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: was fucking mjf's wedding, So that's why Death Before Dishonner
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: got moved. But yes, now MJF and Mark Briscoe, they
- 1:21:12Speaker 3: are going to be wrestling it all out. Mark Briscoe,
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: I believe is going to be able to pick the stipulation.
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: He did not name what that stipulation would be on Collision,
- 1:21:21Speaker 3: but I believe we'll find out on Dynamite this Wednesday.
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: So we are getting at least one more battle between
- 1:21:28Speaker 3: MJF and Mark brisco It's fine. I mean, there's no
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: need to rush right back into Hangman and MJFMJF still
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: has that Casino Gauntlet contract, although he does have to
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: give at least a week's notice when he's ready to
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: cash it in.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: I still think.
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: He may well hold off until World's End. I think
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: they might try to hold off until the end of
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: the year. I know we still have wrestled Dream and
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: then Full Gear, you know, and I could definitely see
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: that being the match of Full Gear, Full Gear or
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: World's End. I say World's End just because World's End
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: is the event two years ago where MJF lost the championship,
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: so maybe him winning it back on that show would
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: be kind of poetic. But you know, if they want
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: to do MJF and Briscoe and blow it off. I
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: have no issue with it. Again, there was a report
- 1:22:12Speaker 3: a few months ago that MJF personally requested a program,
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: wanted to work with Mark Briscoe. Was important that he
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: worked with Mark Briscoe. So he's getting the chance to
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: work with Mark Briscoe.
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: You know, that's what he.
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: Wanted, and he still has that contract in his back pocket.
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: They'll circle back around to it when the time is right.
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: Hangman and Kyle Fletcher. You know, look, I think Kyle
- 1:22:33Speaker 3: Fletcher is going to be an even bigger star for them.
- 1:22:36Speaker 3: I think they've done a very good job with him
- 1:22:38Speaker 3: as far as building him up from I don't want
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: to say nobody you know, but he was a tag
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: team wrestler. You know, he was one half of Assie
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: Open and so to go from that to where he
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: is now, you can't say that he hasn't transformed himself
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: physically but also his career. He has turned into one
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: of the rising, the fastest rising stars in this company.
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: I look at him, I look at Takeshta, who both
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: happen to be members of the same faction, but he's
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: you know, he's right there with those guys. You know,
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: he's going to be a top tier performer for them
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: for many years to come. And so him getting a
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: match with Hangman, I'm sure the quality of the match
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: is going.
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: To be very good.
- 1:23:19Speaker 3: I don't see that as being a match that's going
- 1:23:21Speaker 3: to really entice people into buying the pay per view.
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: A lot of it is going to come down to
- 1:23:25Speaker 3: what the full card looks like. I just don't see
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: people buying this show. Oh, it's going to be Kyle
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: Fletcher wrestling Hangman for the championship, and I'm sure he's
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: got a real shot of winning that title too. Nobody
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: believes that, so it's not the strongest challenger for Hangman,
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: which is why I would have been okay with them
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: doing a tag match and not even having a title
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: match on this show. If they would have done something
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: like Hangman and Kenny against Takeshta and Okada, I think
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: that would have been a great match to do. But
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: I guess Omega he may have had to be in Japan.
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: It may not have been possible, you know, him to
- 1:24:00Speaker 3: be on that show. It's probably a scheduling thing. Also,
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: on that Collision show last night, they inserted a backstage
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: promo with Big Bill and Brian Keith, and Bill said
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: that his life hit rock bottom in the twenty three
- 1:24:17Speaker 3: hundred arena. He said, the fans mocked him and laughed
- 1:24:19Speaker 3: at him. Said the Philadelphia fans showed their true colors.
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: He said, Philadelphia is where players spit on their opponents
- 1:24:27Speaker 3: and steal foul balls from children, and have a statue
- 1:24:30Speaker 3: for their only hero who's a fictional character. And he
- 1:24:34Speaker 3: said he comes from a place where real tough guys
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: are made, New York City. That's right, Bill said, there's
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: another guy from New York City who claims to be
- 1:24:45Speaker 3: a tough guy, but he hasn't heard from him or
- 1:24:47Speaker 3: seen him in a long time. I'm officially calling you out,
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston. This is how they set up the return
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: of Eddie Kingston. Eddie Kingston's been gone for well over
- 1:24:59Speaker 3: a year. We got Big Bill out here just randomly
- 1:25:04Speaker 3: spouting off about a guy who hasn't been on television
- 1:25:06Speaker 3: in fifteen months. Sixteen months. Not the way that I
- 1:25:11Speaker 3: would have brought Eddie Kingston back. It's actually it really
- 1:25:14Speaker 3: is too bad though, that they just couldn't work it out.
- 1:25:17Speaker 3: I guess where Eddie came back to make the say
- 1:25:20Speaker 3: for Darby a few weeks ago, or to do something
- 1:25:23Speaker 3: with Gabe Kid, who was just on TV. But we saw,
- 1:25:27Speaker 3: you know, last we saw Gabe Kid on Wednesday, you know,
- 1:25:30Speaker 3: Darby put him in a body bag and literally dragged
- 1:25:32Speaker 3: him out of the building. And I've seen or heard
- 1:25:36Speaker 3: something where Kid may already be back in Japan. He
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: may not even be you know, on TV for a while,
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: so that may not have been possible, But I don't know.
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: I mean, of all the ways to bring back Eddie Kingston,
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: this is you know, certainly a pretty lazy way to
- 1:25:51Speaker 3: do so. But at least he's coming back. You know,
- 1:25:54Speaker 3: it's good that he's coming back. I really hope they
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: can elevate him to something, you know, decent, something important
- 1:26:01Speaker 3: on the show to do. There are people on the show,
- 1:26:04Speaker 3: there are stories that he can be involved with that
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: would actually make a lot of sense, people he has
- 1:26:08Speaker 3: history with. If this is just their way of reintroducing him,
- 1:26:11Speaker 3: getting him a win his first night back, and then
- 1:26:13Speaker 3: they transition him into you know, something with the Death
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: Riders or something like that, then that's fine. But just
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: just the way they set this up was just very strange.
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: It felt like maybe this is an all out match.
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: It's a way to get any you know, back in
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: the ring. It all out for the first time. So
- 1:26:31Speaker 3: at least he's on his way back. At least now
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: we know he is coming back imminently. And I mentioned
- 1:26:37Speaker 3: the announced shake of the announcer's shakeup in WWE before.
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: There is a new addition to the aw announced team
- 1:26:43Speaker 3: starting this week on Dynamite. Brian Danielson becomes a member
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: of the commentary team on a full time basis moving forward.
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: The announcement was made on Twitter by Tony Kahn, who
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: did not specify if it will now be a four
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: man booth, which would be completely unet or if someone
- 1:27:02Speaker 3: is moving out of the booth. I think keeping it
- 1:27:06Speaker 3: a three man booth is fine. Tony Shavanni is already
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: handling the play by play on Collision every week. I
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: don't think he needs to be on Dynamite. Dynamite has
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: a play by play guy. They want to go with
- 1:27:17Speaker 3: ex Caliber, that's their choice.
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: Fine.
- 1:27:21Speaker 3: If ex Caliber is going to be their play by
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: play guy, I don't see the need to have Tony
- 1:27:24Speaker 3: Shavanni on commentary doing Dynamite color or play by play
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: or anything else. He can be the guy who stands
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: in the ring on Dynamite with the microphone or on
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: stage with the microphone and conducts interviews where ninety five
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: percent of the time the person just pulls the microphone
- 1:27:40Speaker 3: out of his hand anyway and tells him to go
- 1:27:42Speaker 3: sit down. But that could be his role on Wednesdays
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: and let Shavanni continue to do play by play on Collision.
- 1:27:50Speaker 3: He's really not needed in that booth anymore on Wednesdays.
- 1:27:52Speaker 3: You know, you could have ex Caliber Taz and Brian Danielson.
- 1:27:56Speaker 3: You know, they had Danielson doing commentary for Forbidden Door,
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: and I liked his commentary. I think it's a good
- 1:28:02Speaker 3: role for him.
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: To be in.
- 1:28:07Speaker 3: Other news and notes. We got a bunch of them
- 1:28:09Speaker 3: here in a story that could have had potential implications
- 1:28:14Speaker 3: on pro wrestling, since independent contractors were included in the
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: list of those affected by this. The Federal Trade Commission
- 1:28:22Speaker 3: announced that it is moving to vacate its rule banning
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: non compete agreements, which are employment agreements that prevent workers
- 1:28:30Speaker 3: from taking new jobs with a competing business or starting
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: one of their own, usually within a certain geographic area
- 1:28:38Speaker 3: and time frame. After leaving their job. The ban, championed
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: by former FTC chair Lena Khan, was finalized in twenty
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: twenty four, but never took effect. Following a lawsuit brought
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: by the Dallas based tax services firm Ryan LLC, a
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: federal judge in Texas found that the FTC had likely
- 1:29:01Speaker 3: exceeded its authority in issuing the ban and halted it
- 1:29:05Speaker 3: nationwide last fall. The administration appealed that ruling to the
- 1:29:11Speaker 3: Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, but in March the new
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: administration asked the court for a four month pause on
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: the appeal. Then in July they told the court they
- 1:29:20Speaker 3: needed more time. Still, the court approved another sixty day
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: pause that was to end on September eighth. Late Friday afternoon,
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: just ahead of that deadline, the FTC announced that it
- 1:29:32Speaker 3: had voted three to one to dismiss the appeal and
- 1:29:36Speaker 3: take steps to vacate.
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: The rule entirely.
- 1:29:40Speaker 3: The rule would have covered not only employees, but independent contractors, interns,
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: and volunteers. So in WWE, if your contract expires, you're
- 1:29:51Speaker 3: free and clear to go work wherever you want. But
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: if they release you, either because you asked to be
- 1:29:56Speaker 3: released or they just decided we don't want you anymore.
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: We're gonna get rid of you.
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: If you're an NXT star, you typically have a thirty
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: day non compete For main roster talents, it's ninety days
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: that you sit at home and you get paid until
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: that period of time is up, and until then you
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: are not allowed to go wrestle somewhere else, like an
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: AW or even independence. I mean maybe if you ask nicely,
- 1:30:22Speaker 3: they might let you, but you can't just like if
- 1:30:25Speaker 3: you're released, right, I just got my release from WWE.
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: I got the phone call.
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: Right, You're not picking up that phone the next day
- 1:30:32Speaker 3: and calling Tony Kahan, Like legally you are not allowed
- 1:30:35Speaker 3: to do that. You can't even negotiate with them. You're
- 1:30:37Speaker 3: basically on ice for up to three months. And some
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: wrestlers might be okay with sitting at home and getting
- 1:30:44Speaker 3: paid to do nothing but train right and plot and
- 1:30:47Speaker 3: plan their next moves. But they might like having the
- 1:30:50Speaker 3: option of going to work somewhere else. Maybe they had
- 1:30:52Speaker 3: a lot of buzz around them and they're worried that
- 1:30:54Speaker 3: by sitting at home and doing nothing, it's all going
- 1:30:55Speaker 3: to evaporate. Maybe they just want to work even if
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: this rule had gone into effect. Like, if I was WWE,
- 1:31:05Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is what I would do, But
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: if I was WWE, I wouldn't release anybody early unless
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: it was for some sort of disciplinary reason, unless I
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: just really didn't want to pay them to not use them.
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: I could see WWE just holding onto people until their
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: deals expire, Tony Kahn. So they probably would have found
- 1:31:26Speaker 3: their way around it with some ridiculous loophole like that.
- 1:31:30Speaker 3: But it's all a point now because the FTC is
- 1:31:33Speaker 3: vacating the rules, so there will be no national ban
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: on non compete agreements after all. The new chair of
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: the FTC has said has claimed that he is no
- 1:31:45Speaker 3: fan of non compete agreements and that instead of a
- 1:31:49Speaker 3: national ban, he would look to send FTC enforcers out
- 1:31:54Speaker 3: looking for non compete that violate the Sherman Act, which
- 1:31:59Speaker 3: is an eighteen ninety law prohibiting activities that restrict competition
- 1:32:03Speaker 3: in the marketplace. Meanwhile, the FTC only has around fourteen
- 1:32:07Speaker 3: hundred employees total to actually police the entire economy. Good
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: luck enforcing that. I love this idea that they're going
- 1:32:16Speaker 3: to send us like a small posse out of enforcers
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: to go look for non competes. Maybe there's one hiding
- 1:32:23Speaker 3: in that bush over there. I think I saw a
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: non compete hiding behind the dumpster at the Chick fil
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: A near me. Yeah, this is dead. WWE and AW
- 1:32:33Speaker 3: have nothing to worry about. I don't even know if
- 1:32:35Speaker 3: AW uses non compete clauses in their contracts, since Tony
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: lets them take bookings independently. I mean, maybe they have
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: something in there that applies specifically to WWE.
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: No need for a non compete though, when you can
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: just bench someone indefinitely until their contract expires. This is
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: a scary story as it relates to Live Morgan's stalker.
- 1:32:57Speaker 3: Remember this piece of work. This comes from PW Insider.
- 1:33:02Speaker 3: The US government filed a motion this week attempting to
- 1:33:05Speaker 3: prevent Sean Chan, the Canadian man charged with one count
- 1:33:09Speaker 3: of interstate domestic violence against WWE star Live Morgan, after
- 1:33:14Speaker 3: traveling to the US and spending hours loitering at her
- 1:33:17Speaker 3: property in Florida, trying to stop him from being released
- 1:33:21Speaker 3: from incarceration before his trial, which is expected to take
- 1:33:25Speaker 3: place this November. Chan filed a motion on August twentieth
- 1:33:29Speaker 3: asking the court to reconsider his being held without bail
- 1:33:32Speaker 3: through the trial. The filing said his attorneys have secured
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: a Salvation Army location that Chan can reside in until
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: the trial takes place. In Emotion this week, prosecutors noted
- 1:33:43Speaker 3: the defendant is a danger to the community, a serious
- 1:33:47Speaker 3: risk of flight, and there are no conditions of release
- 1:33:49Speaker 3: that will reasonably assure Chan's appearance at further proceedings of
- 1:33:53Speaker 3: this case. The United States requests that Chan remain detained
- 1:33:57Speaker 3: pending trial. They also argue that his defense having secured
- 1:34:02Speaker 3: Chan of bed at the local Salvation Army does not
- 1:34:05Speaker 3: meet the legal requirement for Chan to have his incarceration
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: status reconsidered, arguing the fact that council has secured a
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: bed for him at the Salvation Army does not have
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: a material bearing on the issue of whether there are
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: conditions of release that will reasonably assure his future appearance
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: and the safety of other persons and the community. The
- 1:34:25Speaker 3: nature and circumstances of his offense, the weight of the
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: evidence against him, and chance history and characteristics justified detention.
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: This newly proffered information does not have a material bearing
- 1:34:39Speaker 3: on the issue of whether there are conditions of release
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: that will reasonably assure his appearance at future court proceedings
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: and the safety of other persons in the community, including
- 1:34:48Speaker 3: Live Morgan. And they didn't say Live Morgan, but they're
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: referring to Live Morgan.
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: That'd be funny. They just use WWE names here. In
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: the court documents.
- 1:34:59Speaker 3: They argue that should Chan be set free through trial,
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: not only is there nothing holding him from being a
- 1:35:04Speaker 3: flight risk, but he could easily attempt to visit Morgan's
- 1:35:06Speaker 3: home again. It was also revealed that when Chan left
- 1:35:10Speaker 3: a note at Morgan's home, he left his name, Canadian address,
- 1:35:13Speaker 3: and phone number. The government also argued Chan's history and
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: characteristics also demonstrate that he is a very real risk
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: of non appearance. To begin, Chan is a Canadian citizen
- 1:35:24Speaker 3: who is only in the Middle District of Florida to
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: intimidate and stalk Live Morgan. He has no reported family
- 1:35:31Speaker 3: in the Middle District of Florida. He does not have
- 1:35:34Speaker 3: a job in the Middle District of Florida, and nor
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: does he have any authorization to work in the United States.
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: In fact, Chan has no obvious ties to this country
- 1:35:43Speaker 3: at all. Instead, his only contacts appear to be in Canada,
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: where he could easily flee if released. What's more, at
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: the initial detention here in Chan reported having no mental
- 1:35:53Speaker 3: health problem. Since then, however, Chan's council has indicated that
- 1:35:56Speaker 3: Chan is being evaluated for competency. Given Chan's lack of
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: ties to the community and these serious mental health concerns,
- 1:36:04Speaker 3: there is no condition or combination of conditions that can
- 1:36:07Speaker 3: reasonably assure Chan's appearance at trial. And it goes on
- 1:36:13Speaker 3: here the some more information in here, it's just disguised,
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: is completely just disturbed. As PW Insider reported earlier this week,
- 1:36:22Speaker 3: Chan had previously signed a waiver of speedy trial in order,
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: according to court records, to allow adequate time to conduct
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: a psychiatric evaluation of the defendant. Chan flew from Scarsborough, Ontario,
- 1:36:35Speaker 3: to Orlando, Florida, on May twenty sixth, telling customs agents
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: in Florida that he would be staying at the WWE
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: Performance Center, which has no housing facilities. Four days later,
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: according to the criminal complaint against him, Chan traveled several
- 1:36:50Speaker 3: hours to live Morgan's home, circled her property several times,
- 1:36:55Speaker 3: and entered through her backyard. He then attempted to gain
- 1:36:58Speaker 3: entry to her front door, was unsuccessful. He found and
- 1:37:02Speaker 3: held an air pellet that was sitting inside her front porch,
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: and after waiting several hours, left a note and departed.
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: According to the criminal complaint against him, Chan's note read
- 1:37:14Speaker 3: in part, It's me Sean, the guy you all hang
- 1:37:18Speaker 3: out with on and then it says gaming platform deleted online.
- 1:37:23Speaker 3: You've been trying to contact me, or should I say,
- 1:37:26Speaker 3: reach out to me when I'm absent from that game.
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: So who's the stalker? Huh?
- 1:37:31Speaker 3: I never said and did anything bad for over ten years,
- 1:37:35Speaker 3: yet you all dared hating me for no reason. I
- 1:37:38Speaker 3: came here to pay just a friendly visit, nothing more.
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: Yet I'm the one who looks like a stalker thanks
- 1:37:44Speaker 3: to all of you. You think I'm going to have empathy,
- 1:37:48Speaker 3: sympathy and care about any of you anymore. I will
- 1:37:51Speaker 3: start talking and doing whatever I want despite all your
- 1:37:56Speaker 3: shoosh finger faces that you all make. Yeah, I just
- 1:38:00Speaker 3: wanted to let you know that I was here. That
- 1:38:03Speaker 3: is just fucking scary. Chan was arrested by the FBI
- 1:38:08Speaker 3: on June third, after WWE security, having seen security footage
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: from Morgan's home, recognized him in alerted authorities. Chan was
- 1:38:16Speaker 3: indicted on June twenty fifth and faces five years in prison.
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: The court has yet to rule on Chan's request to
- 1:38:23Speaker 3: be released. As of this writing, he remains incarcerated in
- 1:38:27Speaker 3: Hernando County, Florida. Let us hope, for the sake of
- 1:38:32Speaker 3: all involved, including liv Morgan, that this creep stays incarcerated
- 1:38:36Speaker 3: where he belongs for the time being.
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: That is just Yeah.
- 1:38:39Speaker 3: I just got done talking last week about the Rhea
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: Ripley thing and how she got swarmed when she was
- 1:38:44Speaker 3: in France, and there have been other incidents that have
- 1:38:47Speaker 3: taken place, and it looks like WWE is in certain
- 1:38:50Speaker 3: situations at least now sending security out with some of
- 1:38:54Speaker 3: the women when they're on the road at some of
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: these venues. But there are people online who were just
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: and a lot of it is with the with the
- 1:39:05Speaker 3: women who were just completely obsessed. I mean, you see
- 1:39:08Speaker 3: this type of obsessive behavior just in the way that
- 1:39:11Speaker 3: people tweet and comment about certain things, and that's one thing,
- 1:39:16Speaker 3: But when you take it to that next level and
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: you do something like this or the Sonya Deville stalker
- 1:39:23Speaker 3: who went to her house. We talked about that story too,
- 1:39:26Speaker 3: when he had zip ties and I think weapons and
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: God only knows what he was planning on doing to
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: that woman.
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: That was a terrifying situation.
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: She had to take time off from WWE, and you know,
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: deal with that whole situation because it was a traumatic situation.
- 1:39:43Speaker 3: You know, at what point do we have a story
- 1:39:46Speaker 3: that you know has an ending that is going to
- 1:39:49Speaker 3: be tragic? I mean, I hope it doesn't happen, but
- 1:39:52Speaker 3: you know, you have people out there who are like this,
- 1:39:54Speaker 3: who obviously are mentally compromised in some way and need help,
- 1:39:59Speaker 3: and and this is what you.
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: End up with.
- 1:40:01Speaker 3: You end up with situations like this. So hopefully he
- 1:40:05Speaker 3: is not going to be set free any time soon.
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:40:09Speaker 3: WWE and the Columbus Sports Arena were sued by a
- 1:40:13Speaker 3: fan this week alleging that he was injured in a
- 1:40:17Speaker 3: fall at a raw event last year. WWE, the Columbus
- 1:40:21Speaker 3: Sports Arena, and Ohio State University and UMR INC were
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: sued on September second by a William Ricks from Pennsylvania,
- 1:40:31Speaker 3: alleging that he was injured after slipping in a puddle
- 1:40:34Speaker 3: while attending the April twenty second, twenty twenty four WWE
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: Monday Night raw event in Columbus, Ohio. Rix lawsuit alleges
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: that he was walking in and around an aisle by
- 1:40:44Speaker 3: sections two oh seven and two oh eight when he
- 1:40:47Speaker 3: slipped and fell due to a hazardous condition that existed
- 1:40:50Speaker 3: in the form of an unmarked puddle of a liquid
- 1:40:53Speaker 3: or liquid like substance. A liquid like substance is that
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: like Michael Cole at WrestleMania thirty seven with Randy Orton
- 1:41:05Speaker 3: and Bray Wyatt saying it's a box like structure. No, Michael,
- 1:41:09Speaker 3: it's a fucking box, not a box like structure. It's
- 1:41:16Speaker 3: a liquid a liquid like substance that was not open
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: and obvious. The lawsuit alleges Rix has suffered permanent pain
- 1:41:26Speaker 3: and suffering in the form of injuries from the fall,
- 1:41:28Speaker 3: but does not cite exactly what the injuries are. The
- 1:41:31Speaker 3: lawsuit states that all of the defendants except MR, which
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: is an insurance company, owed the ticket purchasing audience of
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: which plaintiff was a member, a duty to maintain the
- 1:41:42Speaker 3: premises in a way that was free of any hazardous conditions.
- 1:41:46Speaker 3: He is citing negligence, a failure to warn, and vicarious
- 1:41:51Speaker 3: liability for all of the defendants except UMR. The lawsuit
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: alleges Ricks may have had medical assistance with or received
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: payments from defendant UMA aren't for care and treatment rendered
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: due to injury sustained in the aforementioned incident. Well, if
- 1:42:06Speaker 3: he has an issue, then he should take it up
- 1:42:07Speaker 3: with the management of the arena, because I failed to
- 1:42:11Speaker 3: see how WWE is in any way responsible in this situation,
- 1:42:15Speaker 3: and I would be surprised, honestly if they don't already
- 1:42:18Speaker 3: have language on the back of each ticket covering their
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: asses and situations just like this. I actually pull out
- 1:42:23Speaker 3: an old ticket that I have because I keep a
- 1:42:25Speaker 3: lot of my old ticket stubs.
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: Back when they actually had tickets.
- 1:42:30Speaker 3: Everything's digital now, but I pulled that one of my
- 1:42:33Speaker 3: old ticket stubs to raw from a few years ago
- 1:42:36Speaker 3: to take a look at the fine print on the back.
- 1:42:38Speaker 3: The fine print was so small, Like if you put
- 1:42:41Speaker 3: this thing under a fucking microscope, I still wouldn't be
- 1:42:44Speaker 3: able to read it. I'm like, like stady girl, Like
- 1:42:47Speaker 3: I'm seventy five years old. I needed my monocle and
- 1:42:50Speaker 3: I've tried to read this shit and I can't. There's
- 1:42:52Speaker 3: no way, not a single one of you listening to
- 1:42:56Speaker 3: this right now would be able to read what's on
- 1:42:58Speaker 3: the back of this ticket, so I just put it back.
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: But I would be.
- 1:43:01Speaker 3: Very surprised if they don't have language already, you know,
- 1:43:04Speaker 3: drafted on these tickets to kind of excuse them from
- 1:43:09Speaker 3: situations like this and release them from any liability. I
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: just don't see this guy having any kind of case
- 1:43:15Speaker 3: against WWE the arena. That's a different story. But that
- 1:43:21Speaker 3: was not the only lawsuit to be filed this week.
- 1:43:24Speaker 3: Per TMZ, Hulk Hogan's son, Nick has sued bubbaa Love
- 1:43:28Speaker 3: Sponge to block the release of a new documentary on
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: his father that deals with the release of his old
- 1:43:33Speaker 3: sex tape. It is the Fucking Sex Tape that Will
- 1:43:36Speaker 3: Never Die, Hogan's son, Nick, is suing Bubbla the Love Sponge,
- 1:43:40Speaker 3: lledging the popular radio host's unreleased documentary about the WWE
- 1:43:45Speaker 3: legend infringes on his dad's copyrights and trademarks. Nick, acting
- 1:43:51Speaker 3: as a rep for Hult's estate, filed a lawsuit on
- 1:43:54Speaker 3: Tuesday in a federal court in Florida after Bubba revealed
- 1:43:57Speaker 3: that he is going to drop video Killed the radio
- 1:44:00Speaker 3: Star the Untold Story of the Hulk Hogan sex tape
- 1:44:03Speaker 3: scandal later this month. Nick states that the documentary, which
- 1:44:08Speaker 3: promises to tell the real story of how Hogan's romp
- 1:44:11Speaker 3: with Bubba's then wife, Heather clam got leaked to the media,
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: includes unauthorized images from.
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: The sex tape.
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: In the suit, Nick alleges some of the video was
- 1:44:21Speaker 3: actually played in a trailer that Bubba just recently released.
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: Nick also claims Bubba has been promoting the documentary using
- 1:44:28Speaker 3: Hulk's trademarks without permission. Additionally, Nick says releasing the documentary
- 1:44:32Speaker 3: would violate a settlement agreement that Bubba and Hulk entered
- 1:44:35Speaker 3: into over the tape back in twenty twelve. The details
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: of the agreement are redacted in the lawsuit. Nick is
- 1:44:43Speaker 3: suing to stop the release of the documentary and for
- 1:44:46Speaker 3: other unspecified damages. Fast forward to Thursday, a federal judge
- 1:44:52Speaker 3: in Florida granted Nick's emergency motion for a temporary restraining
- 1:44:55Speaker 3: order in preliminary injunction in part prohibiting Bubba from using
- 1:45:00Speaker 3: scenes from the infamous sex tape in the doc However,
- 1:45:04Speaker 3: it looks like Bubba will still be allowed to publish
- 1:45:06Speaker 3: the documentary as long as he keeps out the sex tape.
- 1:45:09Speaker 3: The judge additionally ordered Nick to post a five hundred
- 1:45:12Speaker 3: thousand dollars bond, which would go toward damages Bubba might
- 1:45:16Speaker 3: have incurred if Bubba ultimately wins the case. Bubba hosted
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: an event on Friday Night that Brooke Hogan attended Nick's
- 1:45:26Speaker 3: sister unveiling the documentary.
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: It was like Opening Night, So this hasn't stopped him
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: from releasing it.
- 1:45:33Speaker 3: I don't believe any actual like video footage from the
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: sex tape is in the dock. I mean, I would
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: hope not is in the documentary itself, so he must
- 1:45:43Speaker 3: feel he's on solid ground here. But on the subject
- 1:45:46Speaker 3: of the Hulkster, this will be a little more lighthearted here.
- 1:45:52Speaker 3: Erica Nicole Clark is a stand up comedian and she
- 1:45:56Speaker 3: is also the daughter of mister t. She recently shared
- 1:46:00Speaker 3: a story from her childhood to explain why she often
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: avoids telling people about her famous father. In a clip
- 1:46:07Speaker 3: posted by the Don't Tell Comedy Instagram account, Clark recounted
- 1:46:12Speaker 3: a chaotic weekend surrounding the first WrestleMania that involved a
- 1:46:15Speaker 3: legitimate injury to her dad in a violent hotel room
- 1:46:19Speaker 3: brawl between Hulk Hogan and Rowdy Roddy Piper. Clark began
- 1:46:24Speaker 3: by explaining the complex that she developed as a child
- 1:46:27Speaker 3: because no one believed her father was Mister T. I'm
- 1:46:31Speaker 3: a black girl at an all black school, and I'm
- 1:46:33Speaker 3: trying to explain to my friends that the reason why
- 1:46:36Speaker 3: they've never seen my dad before is because he's doing
- 1:46:39Speaker 3: WrestleMania with Hulk Hogan. Everybody was like, shut the fuck up, Erica,
- 1:46:45Speaker 3: and those were the teachers. This experience of being disbelieved
- 1:46:49Speaker 3: led her to stop sharing stories about her life. To
- 1:46:52Speaker 3: illustrate her point, she told a story from the weekend
- 1:46:54Speaker 3: of the first WrestleMania in nineteen eighty five, where her
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: father was teeming with Hulk Hogan. She was seeing wrestling
- 1:47:01Speaker 3: live for the first time, and her dad had assured
- 1:47:04Speaker 3: her it was all fake. During the match, however, her
- 1:47:06Speaker 3: father suffered a real injury. She said, my dad gets
- 1:47:10Speaker 3: into the ring and immediately Roddy Piper flips my dad
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: and he cracks my dad's ribs, So my dad has
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: to go to the emergency room. After Mister T was
- 1:47:20Speaker 3: treated and returned to their hotel room all bandaged up,
- 1:47:23Speaker 3: Clark described a tense scene. She stated that Hulk Hogan
- 1:47:27Speaker 3: was in their room, still in his yellow wrestling shorts
- 1:47:31Speaker 3: and was doing lines of cocaine. See now that I
- 1:47:35Speaker 3: can believe. According to Clark, Hogan was furious over the
- 1:47:40Speaker 3: injury and was vowing to get revenge on Piper, telling
- 1:47:44Speaker 3: or yelling Tea, I'm gonna fuck him up when I
- 1:47:47Speaker 3: see him. According to Clark, see, I can't believe this
- 1:47:51Speaker 3: because he didn't say brother. If he said I'm going
- 1:47:54Speaker 3: to fuck him up when I see him, brother, I
- 1:47:56Speaker 3: could have believed it. I mean, there's no brother, there's
- 1:48:00Speaker 3: no Jack, there's no dude. According to Clark, there was
- 1:48:04Speaker 3: soon a knock at the door and it was Roddy Piper,
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: who had come to apologize for the injury. He goes,
- 1:48:10Speaker 3: I'm real sorry about what happened, Clark said. Hogan, however,
- 1:48:14Speaker 3: did not accept the apology. Hulk Hogan's like fuck that
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: and grabs Roddy Piper and brings him into the hotel room,
- 1:48:22Speaker 3: throws him against the wall, smashes the mirror. She described
- 1:48:26Speaker 3: a chaotic brawl breaking out between the two wrestlers. Clark
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: painted a picture of Mayhem in the hotel room with
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: her father, despite his broken ribs, trying to break up
- 1:48:35Speaker 3: the fight. She recall Hogan's then wife, Linda being there
- 1:48:39Speaker 3: and yelling for him to stop using his real name,
- 1:48:42Speaker 3: saying Terry, Terry, stop it, which is how she learned
- 1:48:46Speaker 3: that Hulk's real name was Terry. A mid flipped over furniture.
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: Clark and her sister were crying. We get on a plane.
- 1:48:53Speaker 3: We come back to Chicago. I go to class. We're
- 1:48:56Speaker 3: sitting in a sharing circle, and the teacher's like, what
- 1:48:59Speaker 3: you do this week? And I was like, not a
- 1:49:03Speaker 3: fucking thing.
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: I've heard Hogan himself tell stories that are more believable
- 1:49:10Speaker 3: than this one. Although I him doing lines of cocaine
- 1:49:13Speaker 3: is completely believable, especially in that era. Everything after that
- 1:49:17Speaker 3: sounds like complete bullshit. Coked up or not? Okay, coked
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: up or not. Do you honestly think that noted tough
- 1:49:26Speaker 3: guy Hulk Hogan was gonna pick a fight with rowdy
- 1:49:30Speaker 3: Roddy Piper, who had an amateur boxing background and earned
- 1:49:35Speaker 3: a black belt in judo by the way, from Jean LaBelle. Okay,
- 1:49:39Speaker 3: that's number one. I'm more likely to believe that Hogan
- 1:49:42Speaker 3: really did audition for Metallica than any of that. Okay,
- 1:49:45Speaker 3: not to mention, can you imagine if he had actually
- 1:49:49Speaker 3: beaten up Roddy Piper. Do you not think he would
- 1:49:52Speaker 3: not have been telling that story for years to anyone
- 1:49:55Speaker 3: who would listen, like, oh my god, we would never
- 1:49:58Speaker 3: have heard the end of it the night that I
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: beat up Roddy Piper. I mean, it would have been
- 1:50:04Speaker 3: in both of his books. It would have been mentioned
- 1:50:06Speaker 3: at least once in every interview that he's ever given.
- 1:50:10Speaker 3: Ain't no way he's keeping that one a secret, but
- 1:50:13Speaker 3: it makes for a funny story. First stand up back,
- 1:50:16Speaker 3: they guess. And Variety had the exclusive this week that
- 1:50:21Speaker 3: WWE would be adding episodes of the Old Hulk Hogan
- 1:50:24Speaker 3: rock and wrestling cartoon from the eighties to the WWE
- 1:50:27Speaker 3: Vault channel on YouTube. I've been waiting for this since
- 1:50:30Speaker 3: they pulled the episodes off the network ten years ago.
- 1:50:33Speaker 3: As soon as that Hogan scandal hit, they pulled all
- 1:50:36Speaker 3: the episode they had just posted them too, I think
- 1:50:38Speaker 3: like weeks before, and then they just pulled the entire series.
- 1:50:42Speaker 3: So they will be releasing episodes in batches of four
- 1:50:45Speaker 3: every Saturday morning.
- 1:50:46Speaker 1: I love that.
- 1:50:47Speaker 3: I love timing it for Saturday morning. They're going to
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: be posting them in chronological order at six am, eight am,
- 1:50:54Speaker 3: ten am and noon every Saturday, and they actually just
- 1:50:58Speaker 3: dropped the first batch yesterday. The show ran two seasons,
- 1:51:02Speaker 3: with a total of twenty six episodes. It aired on
- 1:51:05Speaker 3: CBS back in the day. None of the wrestlers on
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: the show were voiced by the wrestlers themselves, because their
- 1:51:10Speaker 3: schedules just made that impossible, especially with the inhumane schedule
- 1:51:14Speaker 3: that they were keeping back then.
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: I mean, how the hell would you even get them
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: in studio to do voiceovers.
- 1:51:19Speaker 3: But you know, it was Hogan, and then you had
- 1:51:21Speaker 3: Junkyard Dog and Andre the Giant, and think Ricky Steamboat
- 1:51:25Speaker 3: and Jake the Snake. I mean they were just you know,
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: all the key stars for the most part, were represented
- 1:51:31Speaker 3: on that show. Bobby Heenan and Loue Albano and so
- 1:51:33Speaker 3: on and so forth. Cartoon Hogan had more hair on
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: his head on the show than the real Hogan ever
- 1:51:39Speaker 3: did at any point in his entire life. But his
- 1:51:42Speaker 3: character was voiced by Brad Garrett of Everybody Loves Raymond
- 1:51:46Speaker 3: Fame and Junkyard Dog. He was a character on the show.
- 1:51:49Speaker 3: He was voiced by James Avery Uncle Phil from Fresh
- 1:51:54Speaker 3: Prince of bel Air, who was also the voice of
- 1:51:56Speaker 3: Shredder in the original teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon See
- 1:52:01Speaker 3: This is My Childhood Man he Man and the Masters
- 1:52:04Speaker 3: of the Universe, ThunderCats, the Hogan Cartoon Inspector Gadget, Ninja Turtles,
- 1:52:11Speaker 3: the Real Ghostbusters, Alvin and the Chipmunks, the Smurfs, and.
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: The Super Mario brother Super Show. Can't forget that one.
- 1:52:22Speaker 3: Ah, take me back, man, take me back. Let's take
- 1:52:27Speaker 3: you to the mailbag. That's where I'm going to take
- 1:52:28Speaker 3: you all. Email me your questions the Solemn Monster at
- 1:52:34Speaker 3: gmail dot com, and when you do, make sure you
- 1:52:36Speaker 3: include your name and where you are from. We'll do
- 1:52:40Speaker 3: two or three of them here and then we'll get
- 1:52:42Speaker 3: to more next week. Dak from Saint Paul, minic I
- 1:52:46Speaker 3: love that name. Dak from Saint Paul, Minnesota. I had
- 1:52:49Speaker 3: to say it twice. I had a possible idea for
- 1:52:53Speaker 3: John Cena's last match. I understand the thought process of
- 1:52:56Speaker 3: a Drew MacIntyre or a Gunther being the last opponent
- 1:53:00Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense, and a babyface heel match
- 1:53:03Speaker 3: makes sense too, But I had a different idea to
- 1:53:05Speaker 3: run by you. What if aj Styles ends up beating
- 1:53:08Speaker 3: Dom for the Intercontinental Championship. Around November, Sina starts talking
- 1:53:13Speaker 3: about the end being near and he brings up that
- 1:53:15Speaker 3: he has done everything but one thing, and that is
- 1:53:17Speaker 3: be the Intercontinental Champion. He challenges AJ for the title
- 1:53:21Speaker 3: for his last match in December. I think it would
- 1:53:24Speaker 3: be a great final match for John and could add
- 1:53:26Speaker 3: some fun drama too, seeing if he could win the
- 1:53:28Speaker 3: title that he's never won and have the added bonus
- 1:53:32Speaker 3: that the ending would not be obvious.
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 1:53:37Speaker 3: I am shocked by how many questions I have gotten
- 1:53:40Speaker 3: in the last few months about John Cena going after
- 1:53:44Speaker 3: the Intercontinental title. I mean, I guess I just underestimated
- 1:53:47Speaker 3: how many people actually want to see this. Look, if
- 1:53:51Speaker 3: it gets us one more John Cena AJ styles match,
- 1:53:54Speaker 3: that would be great. Sena challenging for the Intercommental Championship
- 1:53:58Speaker 3: is tough for me to see happening. I don't see
- 1:54:02Speaker 3: Sena going on television and making that pitch that oh
- 1:54:07Speaker 3: it's so important that I went like, that's not going
- 1:54:09Speaker 3: to happen because John Cena doesn't care about the Intercontinental title.
- 1:54:15Speaker 3: He just challenged though Sammy's Ain on Friday for the
- 1:54:17Speaker 3: US title, but it wasn't anything he asked for.
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: Right. It was Sam bey's Ain.
- 1:54:21Speaker 3: Who basically begged him to accept a championship match with him,
- 1:54:25Speaker 3: and John Cena said yes, so could it happen? Sure
- 1:54:28Speaker 3: if AJ wins the title and he does the exact
- 1:54:31Speaker 3: same thing that Sam bez Ain just did where he
- 1:54:33Speaker 3: pitches the match to Sena, it basically begs Sena to
- 1:54:37Speaker 3: say yes. I don't think John Sene is going to
- 1:54:39Speaker 3: say no to that, but that would be a raw match.
- 1:54:42Speaker 3: I don't see John Cena wrestling for the Intercontinental title
- 1:54:45Speaker 3: in his retirement match. I think people are putting too
- 1:54:48Speaker 3: much emphasis on the IC title and its importance to
- 1:54:51Speaker 3: John Cena. John Cena has never, ever, ever, ever demonstrated
- 1:54:56Speaker 3: that he gives a shit about any specific title, Frank,
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: but the Intercontinental Championship. It would be like if Hulk
- 1:55:04Speaker 3: Hogan was about to have his retirement match on Saturday
- 1:55:06Speaker 3: Night's main event, and he comes out on television and says, brother,
- 1:55:10Speaker 3: it's the one title I've never won. I gotta win
- 1:55:12Speaker 3: the inter cut Like Hulk Hogan doesn't. He would wipe
- 1:55:15Speaker 3: his ass with the Intercontinental title, Okay, Like I couldnot
- 1:55:18Speaker 3: even fathom him caring enough to even mention it in
- 1:55:23Speaker 3: a promo as he was barreling towards his retirement match,
- 1:55:27Speaker 3: so that that's not going to happen here. But the
- 1:55:29Speaker 3: fact that we just saw Sammy Zane and John Cena
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: for the US title on Friday at least makes it
- 1:55:34Speaker 3: possible the wwe could get a television match, you know,
- 1:55:38Speaker 3: out of Seena and aj Plus we know scene is
- 1:55:40Speaker 3: done with SmackDown. So when we see Sena on television
- 1:55:44Speaker 3: again from here on out, I mean outside of the
- 1:55:47Speaker 3: matches that he has on the big special shows, it's
- 1:55:50Speaker 3: going to be on Raw, and AJ Styles happens to
- 1:55:53Speaker 3: be on Raw. The IC title happens to be on Raw.
- 1:55:57Speaker 3: So a match between them absolutely very possible. But to
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: do it in the way that you just laid out,
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: or to have Sena talk about how it's the one
- 1:56:06Speaker 3: title I've never won. Like again, he's never said or
- 1:56:08Speaker 3: done anything to demonstrate that any of that matters to him,
- 1:56:12Speaker 3: and I don't see them starting that now, and I
- 1:56:14Speaker 3: would not do that, certainly, not in his last match.
- 1:56:17Speaker 3: His last match should have nothing to do with any championship.
- 1:56:21Speaker 3: And as far as his retirement match, I don't think
- 1:56:24Speaker 3: that AJ Styles is the guy they want to go with,
- 1:56:27Speaker 3: because I don't see Sena winning that match, and I
- 1:56:30Speaker 3: certainly don't think they want aj Styles beating John Cena
- 1:56:33Speaker 3: at his retirement match. I can almost guarantee you that's
- 1:56:36Speaker 3: not what they want, so that I don't see happening,
- 1:56:39Speaker 3: but I do hope the match does happen at some point.
- 1:56:42Speaker 3: You know, we got a SmackDown match out of it.
- 1:56:43Speaker 3: There's no reason we can't get a raw match out
- 1:56:46Speaker 3: of Sena in aj one week. Simon from Coos Bay, Oregon.
- 1:56:52Speaker 3: I know why she's had a job for so long,
- 1:56:54Speaker 3: but real question here, has Temina ever had a good
- 1:56:58Speaker 3: match in her career? I feel horrible, but every single
- 1:57:02Speaker 3: time I ever saw her I groaned and lost all interest. Sure,
- 1:57:06Speaker 3: I mean there was the.
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: HM.
- 1:57:16Speaker 3: I'm sure she's a lovely woman. And Moe from Harlem,
- 1:57:21Speaker 3: New York. After listening to you answer a question about
- 1:57:24Speaker 3: Roman Reigns and his opinions about the Attitude era stars
- 1:57:27Speaker 3: and their rise to the top, you got me thinking,
- 1:57:30Speaker 3: from one to four, how would you rank Hulk, Hogan, Stone, Cold, Steve, Austin,
- 1:57:35Speaker 3: the Rock and John Cena and their rise to becoming
- 1:57:39Speaker 3: a top star in terms of difficulty, one being the
- 1:57:43Speaker 3: easiest and four being the hardest.
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: That's interesting.
- 1:57:52Speaker 3: So with one being the easiest, meaning they had the
- 1:57:55Speaker 3: easiest sort of path or journey to becoming a top
- 1:58:00Speaker 3: star in WWE. Look, first of all, before I even
- 1:58:03Speaker 3: answer this, let me just say it is not easy
- 1:58:06Speaker 3: to become a top star in WWE. It wasn't back then,
- 1:58:09Speaker 3: it's not now. So when I answer this question, I'm
- 1:58:14Speaker 3: not saying that, oh, it's just such an easy thing
- 1:58:16Speaker 3: to become the biggest star in the entire company. You
- 1:58:20Speaker 3: have to have certain qualities tangible and intangible to be
- 1:58:25Speaker 3: put in that position, and the company has to believe
- 1:58:27Speaker 3: that they can make a lot of money with you
- 1:58:29Speaker 3: in that spot.
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: But for some it did.
- 1:58:32Speaker 3: Certainly come across as if it was a lot easier
- 1:58:34Speaker 3: for them than it was for others. So if the
- 1:58:36Speaker 3: names that you just mentioned the easiest by far, number
- 1:58:38Speaker 3: one is Hulk Hogan, Hogan was already a big name
- 1:58:42Speaker 3: in the Twin Cities for vere Ganya Vince. That's why
- 1:58:45Speaker 3: Vincent ban stole him away. He wanted him back. He
- 1:58:48Speaker 3: had already been in the WWF before, and he had
- 1:58:51Speaker 3: success in the AWA, and Vince knew this national expansion
- 1:58:55Speaker 3: was coming. His mind was already made up. He wanted
- 1:58:57Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan to be the face of that. He wanted
- 1:58:59Speaker 3: Hulkogan to be the poster child for it. Hogan his physique,
- 1:59:03Speaker 3: everything about the physique and the charisma was everything he
- 1:59:07Speaker 3: was looking for in his wrestlers. All Hogan had to
- 1:59:10Speaker 3: do was agree to come over and sign the contract.
- 1:59:13Speaker 3: So when he came back at the end of eighty three,
- 1:59:15Speaker 3: he was instantly a top star and within a month
- 1:59:18Speaker 3: he beat the Sheikh in the Garden and was the
- 1:59:20Speaker 3: WWF champion. Doesn't get any easier than that. Once they
- 1:59:25Speaker 3: did that, they were off to the races. So Hogan
- 1:59:29Speaker 3: number one. I'm gonna put Rock in number two in
- 1:59:34Speaker 3: terms of getting to the top. Is a top name,
- 1:59:37Speaker 3: the easiest. I remember when Rock was first signed. God
- 1:59:42Speaker 3: who was it? It was Pat Patterson, I think who
- 1:59:45Speaker 3: was the one who went to Vince in them and said,
- 1:59:47Speaker 3: this guy's he's going to be your champion one day.
- 1:59:52Speaker 3: So like when they brought Rock in, they kind of
- 1:59:54Speaker 3: knew he at least had that potential. And when you
- 1:59:58Speaker 3: look at the you know, kind of the early part
- 2:00:01Speaker 3: of his career, you know, he debuted at the Survivor
- 2:00:03Speaker 3: Series in ninety six and he won in Madison Square Guard.
- 2:00:07Speaker 3: I think he was the sole survivor in his Survivor
- 2:00:09Speaker 3: Series match, and within three months they had the Intercontinental
- 2:00:13Speaker 3: title on him. It blew up in their face. The
- 2:00:15Speaker 3: fans rebelled, right, Die, Rocky Die. He joined the Nation
- 2:00:19Speaker 3: de Domination later that year, and that was really the
- 2:00:21Speaker 3: beginning of his rise, and from there it was just
- 2:00:24Speaker 3: this steady rise until a year later he.
- 2:00:28Speaker 1: Was the champion.
- 2:00:30Speaker 3: You know, he won the WWF Championship. He was still
- 2:00:32Speaker 3: very young, but he was already a top guy in
- 2:00:35Speaker 3: the company. Number three. I'm gonna put John Cena. Took
- 2:00:40Speaker 3: a few years. Sina won the title. He had only
- 2:00:43Speaker 3: been on television, not even a full three years when
- 2:00:46Speaker 3: he beat jbl at WRESTLEMANI had to win the championship,
- 2:00:50Speaker 3: and Vince made his decision, this is going to be
- 2:00:53Speaker 3: our guy.
- 2:00:54Speaker 1: You know.
- 2:00:55Speaker 3: Sina won one title, Batista won the other. It's a
- 2:00:58Speaker 3: funny thing too, because Batista. You look at Batista and
- 2:01:01Speaker 3: just his look in that physique, Like if Batista came
- 2:01:05Speaker 3: along like that, looking like that in the eighties, I'm
- 2:01:08Speaker 3: not saying that he would have gotten the Hogan spot,
- 2:01:11Speaker 3: but he would have been treated very well at the
- 2:01:13Speaker 3: top of the card by Vince McMahon. I'm kind of
- 2:01:15Speaker 3: surprised that Vince chose Sena over Batista in some ways,
- 2:01:18Speaker 3: just based on that alone.
- 2:01:21Speaker 1: But Sina.
- 2:01:21Speaker 3: Once Vince made his choice, he was the handpicked one,
- 2:01:24Speaker 3: and you know, he held onto that spot for a
- 2:01:27Speaker 3: good ten years, ten plus years. You know, he was
- 2:01:30Speaker 3: the top guy in that company. Austin I put it
- 2:01:33Speaker 3: number four. I think Austin had it the hardest of
- 2:01:39Speaker 3: the four in terms of how long it took and
- 2:01:42Speaker 3: what he went through to get to that top spot.
- 2:01:46Speaker 3: You know, stunning Steve Austin had a lot of success,
- 2:01:49Speaker 3: a stunning Steve In kind of the upper mid card
- 2:01:53Speaker 3: in WCW got fired, I mean very briefly was in ECW,
- 2:01:59Speaker 3: but then Vince picked up and again he was the
- 2:02:01Speaker 3: ring master and wasn't doing a whole hell of a
- 2:02:04Speaker 3: lot in that first half of nineteen ninety six. Only
- 2:02:07Speaker 3: won the King of the Ring in ninety six because
- 2:02:09Speaker 3: Triple H got punished for the Curtain Call. Didn't have
- 2:02:13Speaker 3: any real plans for him until later in the year
- 2:02:16Speaker 3: when they were hoping to get Brett Hart back. What
- 2:02:18Speaker 3: if And by the way, what if Brett had decided
- 2:02:20Speaker 3: not to come back? You know, that's a question I
- 2:02:23Speaker 3: never hear anybody ask. You know, you get these what
- 2:02:25Speaker 3: if questions sometimes, and it's like, what if Brett Hard
- 2:02:28Speaker 3: had truly decided in ninety six that either he's going
- 2:02:32Speaker 3: to retire or he's not coming back to WWF and
- 2:02:35Speaker 3: he was going to go to because he had a
- 2:02:37Speaker 3: standing offer from WCW. And what if he had made
- 2:02:41Speaker 3: the decision to leave and didn't come back, And how
- 2:02:43Speaker 3: would that have affected the career of Steve Austin Because
- 2:02:46Speaker 3: when Brett came back, Austin was the first guy to
- 2:02:49Speaker 3: work with him, and that was huge for Austin's career.
- 2:02:53Speaker 3: They had that great match at Survivor Series, but then
- 2:02:55Speaker 3: when they ran it back again at WrestleMania, it's one
- 2:02:57Speaker 3: of the greatest matches in the history of the company.
- 2:03:00Speaker 3: You get that iconic moment of him and the sharpshooter
- 2:03:02Speaker 3: with the blood pouring down his face in Chicago. If
- 2:03:06Speaker 3: Brett's not there, what effect does that have on Austin's career.
- 2:03:11Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 2:03:11Speaker 3: I still feel like he gets there eventually, but I
- 2:03:16Speaker 3: think that really delays things because I'm not sure who
- 2:03:20Speaker 3: he works with. If not Brett, who does he work
- 2:03:23Speaker 3: with that can help kind of elevate him to that
- 2:03:26Speaker 3: next level. Who is a big enough star like Brett
- 2:03:29Speaker 3: was that can help get Austin to that next level
- 2:03:32Speaker 3: as like the new badass in the company.
- 2:03:34Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 2:03:36Speaker 3: That's a great what if scenario, But Austin had to Yeah,
- 2:03:39Speaker 3: he had to wait his turn, and it didn't come easy.
- 2:03:42Speaker 3: But once he hit on that gimmick with stone Cold,
- 2:03:44Speaker 3: and you know, it's like catching lightning in a body.
- 2:03:47Speaker 3: He found something that worked. He completely changes. Look if
- 2:03:51Speaker 3: you look at him from the stunning Steve days to
- 2:03:52Speaker 3: the Stone Cold days. It just took him eight years though,
- 2:03:56Speaker 3: you know, it took him eight years to win that
- 2:03:58Speaker 3: World championship for the first time. Took longer for him
- 2:04:02Speaker 3: than it did for the other guys on this list.
- 2:04:04Speaker 3: So I've got him at number four. But good question, bo,
- 2:04:07Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Keep emailing me the Sola Monster at
- 2:04:11Speaker 3: gmail dot com. Always love hearing from you guys. Thank
- 2:04:14Speaker 3: you for all of the support and everybody I saw
- 2:04:18Speaker 3: on the streams this week. I'll be streaming Monday Wednesday,
- 2:04:21Speaker 3: and Friday, so we're keeping a normal schedule.
- 2:04:24Speaker 1: This week. We're back to normal.
- 2:04:26Speaker 3: All the international shows are over for the time being,
- 2:04:29Speaker 3: just for now. They're going to be in Australia next month.
- 2:04:33Speaker 3: But I'll be live for the Raw post show on
- 2:04:34Speaker 3: Monday night on YouTube, the Dynamite Post Show Wednesday night,
- 2:04:38Speaker 3: and the SmackDown Post Show on Friday night, and of
- 2:04:41Speaker 3: course live for Tuesday Night Titans over on JD's channel
- 2:04:45Speaker 3: on Tuesday. That'll be episode one eleven. So plenty of
- 2:04:48Speaker 3: content coming your way this week until I see you
- 2:04:52Speaker 3: next Sunday when I am back with you for episode
- 2:04:55Speaker 3: nine twenty nine. I bid you adieu, be well, stay safe,
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- 2:05:04Speaker 1: Until then, take care, guys. The Solo Monster Sounds Off.
- 2:05:09Speaker 3: Bronzon read one on one against jay Uso. So Uso
- 2:05:11Speaker 3: got back in the ring and he was looking for
- 2:05:13Speaker 3: another suicide dive. He is stopped in his tracks because Bronson, ready,
- 2:05:18Speaker 3: you talk about yeating.
- 2:05:19Speaker 1: He yeaded this fucking.
- 2:05:20Speaker 3: Chair, this office chair, right at jay Usso's head, and
- 2:05:24Speaker 3: the referee.
- 2:05:24Speaker 1: Falls for the bell for what you would assume is
- 2:05:27Speaker 1: a disqualification. They called this a no contest.
- 2:05:31Speaker 3: I would love to know what do you have to
- 2:05:32Speaker 3: do to get yourself disqualified? If Bronson read shot jay
- 2:05:36Speaker 3: Usso in the face, would it be a no contest?
- 2:05:39Speaker 1: Like? Where's the line here? When I saw that on
- 2:05:41Speaker 1: the screen, I said, you gotta be you gotta be.
- 2:05:43Speaker 3: Shitting this man threw a fucking office chair at this
- 2:05:48Speaker 3: man's head.
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: A no contest.
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