Latest / Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast / Episode 8: The Magic of Christmas

Transcript

Episode 8: The Magic of Christmas · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to episode eight of Revellio for December twelfth,
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I'm Amy, I'm Nicole.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm Tom.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm back.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: How are you guys? Hey?
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, lostical for a second.
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: No, she's reaturing I wasn't losing. I mean I wasn't lost.
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: I was at C but I was. I was lost
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: at C. No.
• 0:47
  Speaker 4: But thanks to Steph for jumping on and filling in
• 0:51
  Speaker 4: while I was on vacation.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, she did agree. Job.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: We had some interesting Yeah, we talked a lot about
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Greek mythology and animals and theories, crazy theories that were sold.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: Can not wait to listen, So yeah, and this episode
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: will be discussing Christmas in the Wizarding World, but first.
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: Listening to w W in the Wizarding Wireless Network.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: Now for the latest headlines.
• 1:31
  Speaker 4: So we're going to have a bit of a slower
• 1:34
  Speaker 4: news this episode. So not too too much has happened
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: since the last episode, but we did learn that Mina
• 1:41
  Speaker 4: Lima is going to be opening another shop in Edinburgh, Scotland,
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: my old home. So if you find yourself in the
• 1:50
  Speaker 4: gorgeous city of Edinburgh, definitely had to Coburn Street it's
• 1:53
  Speaker 4: in Old Town and that's where the shop will be
• 1:56
  Speaker 4: open from ten am to six pm daily. And this
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: is exciting because, like, Aedinburgh is such a good spot
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: for the shop, especially because there's so much of Edinburgh
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: that inspired Harry Potter and being in old Town those
• 2:11
  Speaker 4: streets are just was Victoria Street that was kind of
• 2:14
  Speaker 4: the inspiration for diagon Alley, but all of those windy
• 2:18
  Speaker 4: streets in old Town are just it's just the perfect
• 2:21
  Speaker 4: setting for the shop. So I'm glad to see that
• 2:23
  Speaker 4: they're opening a new location.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Nice, and it also makes a lot of sense,
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: like you said, because a lot of the stories inspired
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: by Scotland in general, so it only you know, it
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: only makes sense that they have a store there and
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: exciting exciting to visit.
• 2:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, And then the other thing is you know, of
• 2:45
  Speaker 4: course Wizards of Baking it's still on. And wanted to
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: point out that in episode two there was a little
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: nod to Revellio, which is obviously an important thing for us.
• 2:58
  Speaker 4: And in this episode all of the baked goods were
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: inspired by gringot so they were on the green Goot
• 3:04
  Speaker 4: set at the studio tour. Warwick Davis came on as
• 3:07
  Speaker 4: a guest and this week, part of the requirement for
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: you know, their challenge of what they had to create
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: was they had to include an additional enchanting effect. So
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: if you haven't watched the show, they always have to
• 3:20
  Speaker 4: incorporate some kind of enchanting magical effect into their show piece,
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: and so this one they had an additional one that
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: was inspired by the Rebellio spell. And the teams had
• 3:33
  Speaker 4: to incorporate at least one concealed component into their show
• 3:37
  Speaker 4: piece that was going to be revealed, you know when
• 3:40
  Speaker 4: they do their big here's our here's our show piece.
• 3:45
  Speaker 4: So yeah, nice, Yeah, it was really cool. And my
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: favorite team is One and Elizabeth, and they won this
• 3:54
  Speaker 4: episode with their like you know, they kind of came
• 3:57
  Speaker 4: out on top and they had this really cool they did,
• 4:00
  Speaker 4: if I remember right, they did the like teller desk,
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: like the bank teller desk, and they concealed a dragon
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: that like breathes like smoke underneath the desk and that
• 4:11
  Speaker 4: was like what was revealed.
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: It was really cool.
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: So is it like revealed like a practical thing or
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: what do they have to like use a like a
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: lighter to reveal it? Like different er do.
• 4:23
  Speaker 4: Some of it because it's like some of it is
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: like mechanical elements, like all of a sudden, like something
• 4:29
  Speaker 4: will come out, and I think they don't. The way
• 4:31
  Speaker 4: the show was edited, you don't always get to see
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: I think, how they make some of those effects come
• 4:37
  Speaker 4: to life.
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: And I can't fully because I'm caught.
• 4:40
  Speaker 4: Up, and I think they have three or four episodes
• 4:42
  Speaker 4: out now, so I can't like fully remember how they
• 4:45
  Speaker 4: they did it. But they had like a part of
• 4:47
  Speaker 4: the decks desk that just came down. But yeah, I'm
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: really curious how they make the cakes move and they
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: make all these like kind of enchanting elements even work
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: because there is some kind of like mechanical component that's
• 5:02
  Speaker 4: built in.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool intreat.
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: I wish I could remember what the other what the
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: other teams.
• 5:14
  Speaker 4: Did for that up, but now like all the episodes
• 5:17
  Speaker 4: are like blurring in my mind about like what they
• 5:20
  Speaker 4: what they did.
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: But it was like would that would that kind.
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: Of like effect like an episode, Oh jeez, it's the
• 5:29
  Speaker 4: last episode that came out. They were on the Diagon
• 5:31
  Speaker 4: Alley set and one of the teams did had Oli
• 5:35
  Speaker 4: vanders and they made like like their show piece was
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: they made like wand boxes out of chocolate or something,
• 5:41
  Speaker 4: and then wands out of chocolate, and then when you
• 5:44
  Speaker 4: went up to it, the wand would choose you and
• 5:47
  Speaker 4: it would it would slide out from like the shelf
• 5:50
  Speaker 4: and that was it choosing you. So like, yeah, clearly
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: there's like some kind of like mechanical thing built in.
• 5:58
  Speaker 4: And then like another one of the teams for that
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: episode had like the Weasley Shop, and they made a
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: couple different They made like the chattering teeth and then
• 6:07
  Speaker 4: the screaming yo yo and it's like they their show
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: piece was like basically like the hat lifting up and
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: then the like screaming yo yo would come up from
• 6:15
  Speaker 4: the bottom and reveal itself. That was a different episode though,
• 6:18
  Speaker 4: that wasn't the rebellio thing, but it would come up.
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: So like they definitely incorporate.
• 6:24
  Speaker 4: Some kind of thing to make things move in their
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: show pieces.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these people are creative, Like I don't know how
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: they come up with these gimmicks, and you know, it's
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: pretty amazing what they can produce. So yeah, I'm definitely intrigued.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I need to catch up on the.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: Episodes me too. I need to catch up on the
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: series itself.
• 6:45
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, because I also, like I am so curious like
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: your guys' thoughts on like some of the teams, because
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: like it's interesting because there's like this one team that
• 6:56
  Speaker 4: I just think they just don't get along. They're still there,
• 6:59
  Speaker 4: but they just like the one guy it just gets
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: you could just tell he gets so annoyed by the
• 7:04
  Speaker 4: other the other guy. They're very different personalities, and I think,
• 7:09
  Speaker 4: like I'll be very surprised if like one and Elizabeth
• 7:12
  Speaker 4: don't win the whole thing. Like they just get along
• 7:15
  Speaker 4: so well, like they compliment so well. Week after week
• 7:18
  Speaker 4: they've won like the top like they well because like
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: they now they do like where they duel against the
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: teams and then there's like a top three in a
• 7:29
  Speaker 4: bottom three or like a top two and bottom two,
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: and then a team goes home from that bottom. But
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: then one team has picked as like the ultimate like
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: quote unquote winner of that episode and they basically win
• 7:43
  Speaker 4: like an advantage for the next episode, like for example,
• 7:49
  Speaker 4: the Wars one week where Elizabeth and Juan when they won,
• 7:52
  Speaker 4: they they basically were given the next episode where they
• 7:56
  Speaker 4: could it was like a petrificus totala and they could
• 8:01
  Speaker 4: call it at any time, and it would freeze one
• 8:04
  Speaker 4: member of the team for ten minutes, so we would
• 8:07
  Speaker 4: essentially slow all the teams down because they only had
• 8:09
  Speaker 4: one member. So like, when they win the episode, they
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: win a advantage for like the next episode. So Elizabeth
• 8:18
  Speaker 4: and Watt have like won the last two times they've
• 8:20
  Speaker 4: done that, so there's really cool.
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: They were the team.
• 8:24
  Speaker 4: If you've watched episode one, they were the team that
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: did the Patronis cake with the I think it was
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: the Stallion. Yeah, I believe it was them. That that's
• 8:36
  Speaker 4: the team that I'm referring to.
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that'll be my homework for next episode. Let's
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: catch up on the baking show. I know our graphic designer, Carolyn,
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: her daughter is super into it, and she's recorded us
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of review videos and they're so cute. We're
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: going to post them to patreons.
• 8:58
  Speaker 5: So I'm so excited to say them, so excited to
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: see them, especially because I have so many thoughts and
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: so like, yeah, I just need to know her thoughts.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: I love hearing her talk about it.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to catch up. It's definitely an interesting topic.
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, catch up.
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: I think the next episode, well, Obviously, we're recording this
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: on December fourth, so the next episode when this episode
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: comes out, will be a different episode. But at the
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: time of recording, the next episode is in the Forbidden Forest,
• 9:30
  Speaker 4: which is a set that's been added since the last
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: time I was at the Studio Tour, as well as
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: the Green Gods, Like I never got to see that either,
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: because they added that after the fact.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: But that's the cool part about this show is it's
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: not only a baking show, but it's showcasing different parts
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: of the studio Tour, which I think is very cool.
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: It's like kind of like a big, nice little ad
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: for like, this is why you want to come see
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: the Studio Tour, because it just is showing all the
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: different areas, and they do a really good job incorporating
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: those different areas with like what that week's task.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: Is going to be.
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just really I think they just did a
• 10:09
  Speaker 4: really good job with the show. It's really well done.
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: And I read recently a review online that it's been
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: very well received.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was all that I really kind of
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: had for the news. I couldn't pass up including that Revellio.
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: I got was so excited when I was watching the
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: show and they were like, we're going to do this
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: inspired by the Rebellio chart, and I was just just like,
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: oh my goodness.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: I think I like texted Amy right away. Did you
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: if you watched the show? They're doing Revellio So.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: They're definitely doing that because of us. Obviously, Yeah, we're famous,
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: no doubt, all right, and that is everything we have
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: for the news. So our main discussion on this episode
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: is Christmas and the Wizarding World, which Christmas we've already
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: talked about Halloween and Christmas gets a very similar treatment
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: in regards to a lot of stuff happens on this
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: holiday in the series. So this will be a fun one.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. I've got my Ron sweater on.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to go.
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: And obviously very timely, yes, with Christmas being in a
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, okay, So I figured we should start off
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: with how the holiday is celebrated in the series and
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: then dive into what happens on each of the Christmases
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: we see in the books. Good so Wizards in the
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: UK seem to celebrate the holiday pretty similarly to Muggles.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: There's Christmas trees, decorating the Great Hall. At Hogwarts, there's
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: school breaks for the holiday, a families gather for dinner,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: or for those that stay at Hogwarts, there's a school
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: gathering for dinner presents are exchanged. There's also different traditions
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: that are specific to wizards, like wizard crackers, which are
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: filled with things like hats with their chest sets, mice,
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff, Nichole's favorite mice. So there's a
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: lot of I mean, I'm telling you ever since actually
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: the very first time I met Nicole there was a
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: mouse incident in her car. Oh my god, I forgot
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: about that was my introduction to you, was you getting
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: out of my car saying hi to me, panicking because
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: there was a mouse in your car. And that's it. Wow,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: So the mouse flore is real here.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: It is Cinderella's so or snow white whichever. Well, so
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: it would be my luck that I would get the
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: wizard cracker.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: That, yeah, I feel like that's fitting.
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I wonder if it's because it's like because
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: obviously Christmas crackers are a thing that like muggles do
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: as well, but it seems like for wizards they have
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: just a little bit of like magical touch to them.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: So I'm really curious, like what the like mice and
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: the Wizard crackers are. I kind of think of like
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: chocolate frogs almost, you know how they're like obviously not
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: real frogs, but they're enchanted in a way.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never thought about that. That would make sense.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Otherwise I have just got a bunch of mice running around.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: That's awful.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want that.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: Everybody gets scabbers.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Like so, Wizard Entertainers also have holiday specials such as
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Celestina Warback, who we know is Molly's favorite, So that's
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: kind of fun. That's like a little parallel to Muggle
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: life with all these holiday specials that happen. We also
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: know the Great Hall is decorated very specifically with twelve
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Christmas trees, which I thought was kind of fun. So
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: why twelve? Probably to align with the twelve Days of
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Christmas and Christian theology. The twelve days start on December
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: twenty fifth and end on January sixth, marking the time
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: it takes the Three Wise Men to reach the Manger
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: after Christ is born. So there's a little added level
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: of symbolism. We know, we love our symbolism. The twelve
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: there that would be my guess as to why twelve.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Makes sense.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, just like Halloween, which we discussed on episode five,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: a lot happens on Christmas in the books, and it
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: really lays the groundwork for the plot, and it places
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of little pieces in there that play a
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: larger role later on. And actually, while I was putting
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: this list together, I did start to notice a trend
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: at least in like the earlier books of things that
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: happen on Christmas tend to have a little connection to
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the end of that book, particularly, which I thought was
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Books six and seven are kind of
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: hard for me to pinpoint, so when we get there,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: maybe you guys have some ideas. But the first five
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, like this makes sense. So
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: starting with nineteen ninety one, in The Sorcerer's Stone, Harry
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: and the Weasleys remain at Hogwarts during the Christmas holidays.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: This is when we see Harry receive his first real
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Christmas gifts, the sweater from Missus Weasley and the wooden
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: flute from Hagrid. And Harry also receives the invisibility cloak
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: and discovers the mirror of aerosaid while using it. So
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the connection to the end of that particular book here
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: is the mirror of aerosaid. It's obviously very important in
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: the end of the book to get the Sorcerer's Stone,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: as is the flute because that's what they use in
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the book to lull Fluffy to sleep. So we know
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the book is the flute, the movie's the harp.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Kind of cool a little.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And the video game is a is a flu too.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is. The video game goes with the book, Cannon.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: You have to see what the TV show does.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Hopefully the TV show will go with the flu No,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: that's saying and obviously too. I think the other parallel
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: to with this one is even just the importance with
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: the like I mean, just the importance of the invisibility
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: cloak in general, and the fact that it's like that
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: first Christmas that he receives it, and obviously when he
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: receives it, we don't understand the impact that it's going
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: to have in the future, but really kind of setting
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: the stage there, and it's very clever that it's he
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: receives it on this holiday.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and actually thinking about that, which I hadn't really
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: thought about this much before. He receives the invisibility cloak
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: on his first Christmas at Hogwarts, and then we get
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the scene in Deathly Hallows in the Godrechs Hollow Cemetery
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve, the Peveril gravestone makes an appearance there,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: its first appearance. Really, so there's also first book, last
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: book connection and I'm jumping way ahead, but this is
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: just triggering in my brain what the connection is to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the end of the Deathly Hallows book, the Peveril Stone,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the end the hollows, right, kind of.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's both Chris Aron Christmas and.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first Hollow he receives.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So then in nineteen ninety two, in the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Chamber of Secrets, Harry, Ron, and Hermione all stay at
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Hogwarts for Christmas. Hermione finishes brewing the Polyjuice potion on
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Christmas Day and Hermione transforms partially into a cat and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: spends the rest of holiday break in the hospital wing.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Harry and Ron transform into Crab and go and sneak
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: into the Slytherin common room to interrogate Malfoy. They learn
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: he's not the heir of Slytherin, so the connection to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the end of the book. Here they were right by
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the entrance of the Chamber of Secrets the entire time
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that they were brewing the polyjuice potion, and they actually
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: take the polyjuice potion in the presence of Moaning Myrtle,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: who was victim of the Basilisk, who had a lot
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: of answers that they just didn't think to ask yet.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I get it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: If they had asked her, then then the book would
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: have probably ended way sooner than it did exactly.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: But no, that's an interesting connection.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I never really like thought of that, Like, I mean,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: obviously it's very clear, like we're going.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: To stick them right in this bathroom. And of course it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Made sense to them because they're like, well, no one
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: goes in this bathroom because of moaning Myrtle, so this
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: is a safe place for us to do it. But
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like all the answers you need are
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: literally right there in front of you.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting that. Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I never kind of really put that connection, even with
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: all of that to Christmas Day too.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the same time, Harry had to learn that he
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: could speak parcel tongue because otherwise he would never got
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: into the Chamber of Secrets in the first place, so
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of things had to unfold for
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: this moment to finally arrive. So yeah, yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So then in nineteen ninety three, in The Prisoner of
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: as Command, Harry Brown and her money I'll stay at
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Hogwarts again, we get to see hogsbeade at Christmas time,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: which is great. It's described as covered in snow, with
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: holly wreaths on the doors and enchanted candles on the trees,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: very magical. So on this Christmas, Harry receives the firebolt
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: as an anonymous gift, and Hermione, suspecting correctly that it
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: was sent by Sirius Black, reports it to McGonagall and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: gets it confiscated, and Harry throws a little tantrum even
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: though Hermione's correct and trying to protect him.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I completely forgot that that's how it happened in the book,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: because it's like I just feel like I've seen like
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Preserve Azkaban movies so many times, and obviously he doesn't
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: receive it at Christmas time, and you know it ends
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: with the whole flying and his face blurring in the
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: camera at the end. So yeah, I completely forgot about that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they have this falling out that's kind of funny.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Harry's really mad at her for doing it, so they
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: don't talk to each other for a while. That was
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: so interesting to read.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Harry's such an idiot though, Like, seriously, you're gonna accept
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: these random anonymous gifts just because it's like a fancy,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: expensive racing room, like.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Showing people on your doorstep, well, right when he literally
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: has multiple people out there trying to kill him, well,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: or that he thinks, you know, obviously, at this point,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: he still thinks that Sirius is out.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: To kill him, and he'd already almost then killed during
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a quidditch match on the chinst broom, like.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: He was just he was so enamored by that shiny
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: new broom.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: M M yeah, oh Harry, but I'll he could think
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: of was Hermione ratting him out to McGonagall and feeling
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: betrayed when.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Obviously she was thinking about his best interests and just
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that everything was okay with it
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: before he got on it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: And then you've got Ron. He was just mad by extension.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: He's not involved, but he's like to be mad because
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: if there's an argument I want to be in.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: It, and I mean, of course he's not going to
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: take hermiony side in it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I hope that still comes up like in their marriage,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: like to this day.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Just like, do you remember all those years ago when
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I was just trying to look out for Harry and
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: you were mad at me because you just wanted to
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: turn on the fancy new broom that could have killed you, right,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: because it's it's just it is funny because it's like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: right when you compare that whole moment right to like
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: how it happens in the movie, it's so different because
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: it's like in the movie, it's at the end they
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: know it's from Sirius because he puts in the little
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: you know, feather from Buckbeek, and it's this whole happy,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: joyous moment, you know, And it's it's very interesting that
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: they decided to kind of do it that way, I think,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: because visually it was a it was a visually good
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: way to end the film, but definitely a big change
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: from how it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Happened in the book.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this one is kind of harder to like
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: connect to the ending of the book itself, but I mean,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I guess the connection is Serious did send the Broom,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: but he ends up innocent. I don't know, it's kind
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of doesn't really follow the other ones.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I think it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it does because I think that it, like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: especially when you learn after the fact that it was
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: from Sirius, it's kind of this.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: You know, foreshadowing that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: He's not the person that you think he is, you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: and it obviously there wasn't any mal intent with the
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: broom or anything like that, and it's just it's kind
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: of this, yeah, this foreshadow of his connection and care
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: for Harry, which obviously comes to light at the end
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: of the book and you learn all about it, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: you learn all about that past. So I think it
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: does still have that just that connection because it was
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: given to Harry by Sirius and again and at the
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: end of the book you learn why. You learn why
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Serious would want to give Harry a gift like that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Right, that's true because you figure out the James connection.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And yeah. So then moving on to nineteen ninety four
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: in The Goblet of Fire, obviously we have the Yule
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Ball that takes place on Christmas in this book. During
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the Yule Ball, Harry overhears the conversation between Snape and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Carcroff about cark Off being afraid and something growing clearer
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: every day, which we find out later is the dark
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: mark on his arm. The connection to the end of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the book kind of obvious. Valdemore's return, right, so he's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: growing stronger he does come back. Cargoff was afraid with
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: pretty good reason. Yeah, a lot that one to chapter.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think even like that, Yeah, something growing
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: clearer every day. It's even just like that, you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I think as that book progressed, like those the death
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Theaters and the former death Theaters, obviously we're getting the
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: sense it was becoming clearer every day to them that
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Baltimore was coming back.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even recurring nightmares. Yeah, he also had these
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: recurring nightmares and he was dreaming about the same thing,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: especially on that night also, and yeah, it's kind of like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: like you said, this foreshadowing that he's you know, he's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: about to return and things are about to get really dark.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: And again going back to how Christmas starts getting darker
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and darker as well as each book comes, it starts
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: getting like a foreshadowing of something darker happening in the future.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I think from book four onwards, so I think that's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: also a very interesting point.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first several are very warm and fuzzy, and
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: then not so much after that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Like literally for Hermione, she turns into a cat like
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: she became warm and fuzzy.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: So then we get to nineteen ninety five The Order
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of the Phoenix. Speaking of getting darker, this is the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: first time that Harry spends the holiday away from Hogwarts,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: so this obviously Arthur Weasley was attacked by the snake.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Right before Christmas. Harry and the Weasleys stay with Sirius
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: at Grimmeld Place, and Hermione cancels her skiing trip to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: join them, and the holidays acts as like a good
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: cover to get the Weasleys and Harry out of Hogwarts
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: under Umbrage's nose to get back to the family during
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the emergency. On Christmas Day, they visit mister Weasley at
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Saint Mungo's and we get Christmas on the closed ward
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: such a great chapter. While there, they learn about Neville's parents,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and they also witness a plant being delivered to the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: unspeakable Broderick Bode, which the plant turns out to be
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: devil snare and Bode and kills him, and we find
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: out it was sent by McNair to keep Bode quiet
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: about Malfoy attempting to impurias him and get him to
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: steal the prophecy. But obviously we don't know all that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in that chapter. We just see a nice potted plant
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: being delivered to someone who's recovering in the hospital. So
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: our connection to the end of the book in this
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: one is the prophecy. This is our first hint that
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what the death Eaters and Valdemort are after,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: even though we don't know that here, but we get
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the name drop of mister Bode, and that's kind of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the first hint. Also, Neville's parents kind of connect to
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: what we learn about how he could have just as
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: easily been the one that Valdemort went after instead of Harry.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But even though Valdemoret didn't go after the long Bottoms
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: and chose the Potters instead, Neville still did lose his
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: parents in a way. So all of that kind of
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: connects to a lot of the revelations that happen in
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the closing chapters of Order of the Phoenix.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know we talked about in our Halloween episode,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: we kind of referenced this event because it's like one
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: of the ones that you know we talked about could
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: have seemed like it could have been a Halloween.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Type of event.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: But this like really kind of paints the picture of
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: why it made so much more sense to have this
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: event be over the Christmas holiday instead of Halloween, when
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: everybody was still at school, like they needed to be
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: away from school to kind of learn all these other things.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: And like you said, we learned so much with you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: in that Christmas on the Closed Word chapter, and that
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: we just wouldn't get if this had taken place, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: think at any other time during the year.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. So then in nineteen ninety six, in
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: The Half Blood, Prince Harry, Ron and Ginny spend Christmas
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: at the Borough with the Weasleys and Fleur Delacour. On
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Christmas Day, Percy shows up with the Minister of Magic,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Rufus Scrimjoor and Scrimjw's visit was to try and get
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Harry to show public support for the Ministry of Magic
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: after they basically smeared his name everywhere the year before
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and called him a liar for saying that Voldemort was back.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Funny thing, this isn't like the first Percy incident that
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: seems to happen on Christmas, So.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: He just likes to ruin the holiday.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: He says. The first book, we have Percy refusing to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: wear a sweater. The second book don't. Is this just
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a movieism? But they run into Percy on their way
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to the Slytherin common room right after drinking the poly juice,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and he also almost busts them making the polyjuice potion
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: when he sees Ron coming out of the bathroom. The
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: third book, what happens in the third one? Why am
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I blinking? I don't think he happens in the third one.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: But the fourth one he's at the Ole Ball, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: there's a whole little exchange of Harry kind of wondering
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: if his boss has actually learned his real name yet,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: just filling in for Crouch at the Old Ball. And
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: then the fifth one, Missus Weasley is all upset because
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Percy's not there for Christmas. And then the sixth one
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: he shows up and she's happy, and then she's mad
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: because he trouble. Yeah, so this is one that, like
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I was struggling to figure out how this fits the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: theme of the rest of them.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Hmmm, yeah, this one, I mean, this one definitely doesn't
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: have as clear of a direct connection as the other
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: ones do. I mean, right, because that the really the
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: penultimate of the end of that book is just everything
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: with Dumbledore's death, learning that snapes the Halfwood Prince, learning
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: about even before that, the discovery you know, of the
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: lock in ra a B. Like, that's kind of really
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: this ending, and obviously it doesn't really necessarily tie directly
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: to that this whole.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Chapter really in the sixth book where they're at the Borrow,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I need to do another reread,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: but I feel like it doesn't have like not even
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: just on Christmas. I feel like around that, just the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: stay at the Borough, there's not a ton of like
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Easter eggs to the end really because this isn't where
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: they find the lockeed like you said, Yeah, I don't
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: really know. It doesn't seem to follow the same pattern.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: There's not like that foreshadowing hint kind of thing to
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: something at the end. Yeah, and I'm trying to think,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely need to do a reread of
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: half Times. Yeah, And I can't remember if there's maybe
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: even like a little thing that maybe happen. Obviously I
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: mentioned all the like big things that kind of happen
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: at the end of that book. But if there's even
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: a little kind of something, but.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I don't only thing I can think, but it doesn't
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: really tease to the end of this book and more
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: teases to the next book of like the Fall of
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the Ministry.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, it seems like it would
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: be tied to something with the Ministry.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Which we find out about the Fall of the Ministry
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: also at the Borough.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I think that that could
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: be something you connected to because I think that like
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: just their whole like non support of Harry and Dumbledore
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: with the whole situation and their blind eye to the
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: fact that Valdemore could even return, and like you said, yeah,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: they spent the whole year trying to just smear Harry's name,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: and you know, even though yeah, and it's like the
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: start of the fall, Like if it's just I think
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: their whole just trying to deny that that whole situation
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: could happen and just playing a blind eye to it
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: instead of accepting that that could be something that could happen.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Was just the cracks in the ministry. They were never
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: going to like kind of survive that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm thinking, now this is interesting because this
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: event doesn't happen on actual Christmas in this book, but
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: it's around the time the Slug Club Christmas Party. That
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: seems more in line with these other events to me
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: than the actual Christmas of Half Blood Prints does because
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: at the Slug Club Christmas Party there's the overheard conversation
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: between Snape.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: And you Go, and that directly ties to the end.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it also ties to the deceivingness of Halloween
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: as well, because you think that Snape is helping Draco,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: which he is, by but it's by Dumbledore's orders. So
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Harry's just making this whole movie in his head because
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: of what he overheard and what he thinks is having
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: when down, you know, down the line, we find out
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: it's something that is There's so many layers to that,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and I think it's more connected to Halloween than Christmas
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: in that sense. But it, Yeah, it does obviously tease
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: that at the end Snape will kill Dumbledore because you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Draco's not going to, you know, have the courage to
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: do it. He's you know, going through a lot of
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: things that year, and he's vulnerable, and it kind of
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you know makes you it's kind of like a foreshadowing
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of all that that's about to unfold and how dark
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: it is too. So yeah, I think I think there's
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: there's a good point there that you know, could be related,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: even though it's not in you know, Christmas, but it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: around Christmas.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Christmas adjacent.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I think like, you know, those those are still the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: time of the year. Like I think we could probably
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: blanket that. It's like things that happen around this time
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: of the year. Yeah, having in importance.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I also think they did well in the film,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: even though it's a scene that I was very conflicted
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: with because they literally just you know, slotted it in
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and came up with it. The whole Borrow scene where
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: there you know, where Bellatrix and Gray Back attacked them
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: is also you know obviously foreshadowing that nowhere is safe
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: anymore and you know, used to be a safe haven
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: for all of them is no longer that and it
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: kind of makes you know, it sort of teases what's
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: going to happen the next year that they're going to
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: be on the run and you know they're going to
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: have to be hiding and just yeah, it's just about
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: to get very dark. So I think it's something that
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: they managed to capture it, and they're kind of like
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the dark Christmas theme throughout the series. So I think
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: that's why it was included as well in the film,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: not also to give it a little bit more action,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: because there wasn't that much going on. So yeah, like
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: at least in the film, realm it you know, kind
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: of like connects a little bit more, not necessarily with
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: the end of the book, even though they are in
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the Astronomy Tower when Malfoy kills well Snape, sorry kills Dumbledore.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, something like that.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I think visually that scene makes sense for the film,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: and it conveys something that the book is kind of
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: able to convey through words that maybe when it translates
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: so much to film. But giving this very like right,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I kind of am conflicted on that scene as well,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: but I mean undeniably, like from a cinematography standpoint, a
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: visual standpoint, it's such a good scene, like the whole thing,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: and so in that regard, I've come to really love
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: that scene just because of how it looks and just
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: the feeling that you get in that. And obviously it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: like one of the only scenes I feel like where
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: we get like Book Ginny in the film, or like
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: a resemblance of Book Jinny, and so I think it
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: plays It does play a big part, like you mentioned,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: in conveying something that needed to be visually conveyed. They
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: could siter on the table and say, oh, nowhere safe,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: but like this really showed that, like, oh, yeah, here's
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: this place that's always been kind of like home, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: especially at the holidays, it's just it's such a warm
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: environment place and it's like here it's just ruined so
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: quickly by such like dark forces. And yeah, it does
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: foreshadow kind of what's to come for them, Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which leads us into arguably probably the darkest
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and most depressing Christmas in the books in nineteen ninety
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: seven and the Deathly Hallows. So on Christmas Eve, Harry
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: and Hermione visit Godric's Hollow and they're attacked by Niccghini
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: pretending to be befilled a bagshot. So this whole scene
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: really is interesting because it has that whole parallel of
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the Wizarding World is at war while the Muggles in
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the church on Christmas Eve are singing hymns and it
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: is very peaceful. So it's a very like juxtaposition kind
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: of dynamic going on there. As we mentioned earlier, they're
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: in the graveyard, you know, they see the Peveril tombstone
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: for the first time, and that's kind of where the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: name clicks and they start to piece things together later. Yeah,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: then of course the whole snake situation is terrifying. That
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: scene in the movie is like I jump every time.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Even though you know what's coming. It's such a good
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: jump scare.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then just in addition to the stuff that
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: happens in Godric's Hollow, I'm not sure if this is
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: like the next day on actual Christmas or not, but
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: very shortly after Godreich's Hollow, Harry follows the dough into
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the woods and finds the sword of Gryffindor and Ron
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: having left Shell Cottage where he spent Christmas because he
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: was pouting, he follows the illuminator back to where Harry
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and Hermione are and rescues Harry and they destroy the locket.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is Christmas Day. I think it's
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in the days following because Ron explains that he left
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: shell Cottage and was wandering for a while. So yeah,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: but it's still is kind of in that time frame
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I think like obviously this you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: if we're kind of thinking of it being like a
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Christmas adjacent kind of thing, this whole thing I think
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: does have a strong connection to the end of the
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: book because you just have, you know, especially with the
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: sort of Gryffindor obviously that plays such a big role
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: at the end. Just the destroying of the horre cruxes
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: is still a big It has that big tie to
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: the end, especially with Nighiney kind of being that last
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: hor crux that is that is destroyed.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Right and they just got away from Niccghiney.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: M hm.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like being so close to what, you know,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: what your kind of end thing is. And then yeah,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: and the fact that at the end of the day
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: it's the sort of Gryffindor that ends Nacghini.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what else to say about
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: this Christmas It's yeah, it's pretty dark, yeah, and kind
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: of sad. It's like we start out this series with happy, warm,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and fluffy Christmas and friends and family and belonging, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: then we end the series on Christmas where people are
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: alone and like on the run and hiding. Yeah, it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: but I mean.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Really kind of like in a way, those Christmases and
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: like the how those Christmases evolve over the years like
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: directly parallels.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: The books, right, I mean, the.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: First couple books are still really magical and fluffy and
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: you know, whimsical, and as we progress through the books,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: and like you mentioned earlier, Tom, like lots of times,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: you know, I think Prisoner of Azkaban is kind of
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: where things start to turn, but like arguably Goblet of
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Fire is really where it turns into a dark book.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: And that's where we really start to see Christmas starting
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: to take that turn. And they just all seem to
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: have the right kind of mood to that book, Like
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't make sense to have like this happy, fun
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Christmas in Deathly Hallows with everything that's going on.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so much about this series is about growing
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: up and whether or not that's surrounded by the trauma
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: that this trio goes through or not. I think naturally
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it's a natural progression for everybody. The Christmas and the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: feeling around it is something totally different when you're younger,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: as opposed to then when you get into your adult years.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: You think about the people who have gone, who are
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: no longer here exactly, like Harry visiting his parents graveyard
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: and also the house that you know they were killed.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: So it's a very emotional Christmas for Harry, and even
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: though he's with Hermione, it also kind of feels like
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: he feels more alone than ever at the same time
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: because his parents aren't not there, his other best friend
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: is not there, he's not at Hogwarts anymore. He's not
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: even you know, with the closest thing he has to
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: a family that are the Weasleys, so you know, he's
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: got no one. And and the fact that you've got
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Muggles celebrating Christmas completely oblivious to the fact that there's
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: a dark wizard who wants to.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: And the brink of war like in the world, and
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: they're literally on the outside of that celebration in that
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: like warmth of that church there.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: You can almost feel it, you can almost reach it,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: but not quite yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: And it kind of like it kind of like almost foreshadows,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: like the fact that like.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: They're almost there right, like they're we're in the last book.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: They know at this point what they need to do
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: to like ultimately defeat Baltimore. And the wheels are in motion, right,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: They've already destroyed some of the horre cruxes.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: They're still There's it's just the wheels are in motion.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: They're almost there, and it's like just getting this like
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: little glimpse of light like through the cracks. And it
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: might seem very like in that moment hopeless and all
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: of that, but it is this like foreshadowing of like.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: There is light to come.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, until Kirschild happens, then it's all madness again.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think there's just this thing too,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: just like throughout history, Christmas is like one of those
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: holidays I feel like where no matter what's happening, it
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: does get celebrated, right, Like Christmas and Hanaka are like
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: those things that it's like that light in the darkness
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that you kind of always see being celebrated no matter
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: what bad is happening. Like there's always those stories of
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: like World War two and like the ceasefires that happen
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: on Christmas even too Christmas and like soldiers in the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: trenches in World War One, like stopping and singing Silent
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Night or whatever. Like it's one of those things where
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like a lot of the moments
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that we're seeing in these later books are kind of
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: like that, and that it's like the world is terrible,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: there's so much happening, but wait, like life still goes
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: on and there's still these moments that unite humanity and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: are like something that is still celebrated even though there's
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: so much terrible going on in the world, which I think.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Are still the moments of joy.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when we see that, I mean especially in like
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Order the Phoenix, where you know, Arthur is attacked, but
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: yet the family still comes together to have this like
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: moment of joy in this moment of connection, even though
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: like he almost just like lost his life and has
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: all these injuries and everything, like they make time to
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: still experience that joy in that family.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we even get a glimpse of those moments of hope.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen in Christmas, but it does surround Christmas
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: when we get the scene with Harry and Hermione, who
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: are you know, hopeless at that point, and they start
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: dancing and they share this very little, you know, beautiful
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: sweet moment that could have been a great Christmas Eve
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: scene to be honest now that I think about it,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: because it's kind of like finding light in darkness. So
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: it's and even though they're about to give up and
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: they have no idea where to look for the you know,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: how to destroy the hoore crocks, where to find the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: remaining ones, you know, there are at terrible risk, and
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: there's a wizard on the loose, there's you know, and
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: multiple wizards and dark wizards who are looking for them,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: and so it's it's such a you know, dark moment
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: for them at that point. But the fact that they
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: still find these little like you know, like light through
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: the cracks, like you said, Akal, Like they find these
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: little bits of it, and they still find there's something
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: worth celebrating, whether it's company, whether it's you know, a friend,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: a family member, something you're grateful for too, because that's
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: what holidays are about too, you know, It's about bringing
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: family together, being thankful for what we have and just
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you know, trying to, yeah, trying to give our best
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: to the world as well. So I think it's it's
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: also nice how it's not all dark and it's there's
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: also these hints of lightness and you know, fuzzy moments
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: that we kind of missed in these last books or
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: movies that you know, make you say, hey, you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: there's still hope, there's still something that we can look
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: forward to. There's a light at the end of the tunnel,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like that little bit of a reminder
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: of like what they're fighting for. Yeah, you know, and
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: it kind of reminds me of like, you know, in
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Order of the Phoenix, like when Harry gets possessed by Baltimore, Like,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: you know, he's able to resist it because he has
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: like love in him and he has people that he's
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: fighting for. It's not just about him, you know, or
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: obviously for Baltimore, like he only cares about himself and
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have love or you know, anything like that,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: and so it's like he's, yeah, Harry is able to
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: kind of persevere in that moment, and it's like, yeah, just.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Kind of like that.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: I think the way that the scene is in the
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: movie too, you know, when they're at the grave and
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: you know, Harry just Hermione kind of looks over and
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: it's reminded that it's Christmas, and it's just even if
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: they don't realize it, it is kind of just this
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: reminder of like we're fighting for this, like we're fighting
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: for these joy in this happy moments because it's like
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, the Muggles don't know it,
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: but Baltimore coming back also affects their life, right, you know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: and we see throughout the series that Muggles do lose
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: their life because of what's happening in the Wizarding World.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it's just I think it's that reminder that
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: they need that like wouldn't affect Baltimore, right, Like if
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: Baltimore was sitting right there and saw these Carollers and
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: where they were all happy or whatever, he'd probably just
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: go like a vaticate or them.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: But like for her, here you go, that's a good
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: episode title.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, but it obviously won't it obviously has
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: it will.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Have meaning for you know, for Harry and Hermione.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: And it's like and it's it's funny because it's it's
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: really kind of sad when you really think about it,
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: because I think of like think back to like Harry's
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: first Christmas, right, like, yeah, he never really got to
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: fully experience Christmas being with the Dursleys. Obviously he's not
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: it's not like he's never experienced Christmas before, but he
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: just kind of had to sit in the shadows while
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: you know, Dugley got all the gifts and he just
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: the joy that he has and that first Christmas to
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: even receive a gift and just everything about it. And
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: it's just like it's so sad how his Christmases like
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: progress over the years. But it's like you mentioned earlier, Amy,
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: like that, you know, as I think of like you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: as just regular adults in life, like when you're a kid,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Christmas is so exciting and magical and everything, right, and
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: then as you get older, like Christmas has just become
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: sometimes full of family drama and nightmare logistics and stress
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: in a way that it's not when you're a kid.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: And right, we see that as they're growing up, we
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: see it go from being this very whimsical fun time
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: to being this.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Just stress.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Moment having to think what you're going to give all
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: of your family members and not knowing, not having a
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: clue what to give them. It's it's stressful in that sense,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: like when you're an adult and you know, Christmas it
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: was all about receiving, but now it's about giving as
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: an adult as well, so it has a different meaning
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, and yeah, absolutely what you said. Like
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: and for Hermione too, it's a very dark Christmas as well.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: She lost her parents, she you know, abbeviated them. They
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: are somewhere in you know, Australia, I think. So it's
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: for her it's like she she lost everything and she
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: lost Ron too, and Harry is going through this horrible
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: you know, he's got to witness I mean, he wanted
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: to go there willingly, but he's got to also kind
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: of like a full circle moment for him to go
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: back where it all started. But yeah, I feel like
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: you have to be very i don't know, very mentally
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: prepared and emotionally emotionally stable or at least ready for
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: all of that, and especially at that time where all
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: you need is comfort and family and warmth, and that's
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: they're getting the complete opposite and they just have each
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: other at that point.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, kind of sad.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: The joy of Christmas.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Let's just rewind and.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Both back to.
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: You know when Harry was so excited to receive that sweater,
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Easley sweater and the most joy you know, he could
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: have really taught Percy to be a little bit more
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: grateful for that sweater.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Nothing will ever beat that first Christmas at Howards for him.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: So good, Happy Christmas, Harry, Happy Christmas.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Roun.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so great.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: It's so and it's just.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, really kind of thinking about it after just you know,
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: it's it's one of those things where it's like once
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: you know the ending and you kind of go back
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: and reread that or rewatch that, and it's.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Just kind of like the innocence.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean even before everything that transpired, even
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: that year, right, Like I feel like Harry had to
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: like grow up kind of quickly there at the end
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: with you know, just everything he had to deal with.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: At the end of that book, it was like just
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: that moment of yeah, just innocence really.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Wow that Yeah, that is Christmas in the Wistaring World.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: If you want to have a joyful Christmas, maybe don't
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: go to the Wizarding World, at least the real one.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: If you do want to have a joyful Christmas, I
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: do recommend going to the Widow World in Orlando because
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: it's decorated so beautiful and it's so full of joy,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: and you can listen to Celestina sing her Christmas songs
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: and it is joy there.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: They capture the joy there.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: It's about to leave grab on to the pork Key.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: So for our rotating segment this week, wanted to kind
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: of keep it in theme with the winter time Christmas
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Eve vibes of the Wizarding World, and wanted to do
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: the port Key where we kind of highlight different experiences
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: and places that you can go to experience things from
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: the Wizzening World. And so I wanted to highlight the
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Hogwarts in Snow feature at the Studio Tour in London.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: So if you happen to find yourself in or near
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: London this holiday season, it's happening now through the nineteenth
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: of January, you can head to the Studio Tour to
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: experience their annual Hogwarts in the Snow event. So I
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: had a chance to go to this years ago when
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: I lived in the UK, and it's just really so
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: awesome to see all the sets decorated for Christmas. And
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: the real showstopper of this is at the end where
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: like when you at the Studio Tour, the very kind
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: of end is the massive giant model of Hogwarts, and
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: they go and they cover the whole thing in snow
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: and they do the same process as like what they
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: used in the films, so like you know, when you're
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: seeing Hogwarts in winter and they're filming the model, and.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: It's just really cool.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: And when they do this Hogwarts and Snow event, like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: the Christmas vibes are kind of throughout the entire studio tour.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: So if you've never been to the Studio Tour before,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: the first set that you kind of enter is the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Great Hall. So when you enter the Great Hall, they
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: have gold decorations from Sorcerer's Stone, the tables they cover
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: them in all the food and the desserts from the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: holiday feast, and they have all those Christmas trees that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: we talked about earlier, and all the Christmas trees are
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: decorated and I remember them having like these like flying
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: witch decorations like that just flew around the tree, which
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: was really cool. And then all the fireplaces that are
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: there in the set, they you know, put them put
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: holly and mistletoe and reates and it's just very Christmas like,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: right when you walk into that that great Hall set.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: As you move through the studio tour the common room
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: sets that are there, they also decorate them for Christmas.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: So I kind of vividly remember the Gryffindor common room
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: set that they have there. They decorate that for Christmas.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: And there's also like Christmas cards that they made, like
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: on the set that they have displayed there as well.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: And then when I was like kind of seeing what
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: they had on offer for this year, they also mentioned
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: that you can have a chance to learn Nevill's.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Dance steps for the ule Ball, and.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Then there's also a chance to see how the illusion
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: of invisibility was created on screen for the Invisibility Cloak,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: which obviously, as we talked about, Harry receives.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: As a Christmas present.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: So new since I've gone, because obviously I haven't seen
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: the Forbidden Forest set, but they also cover that in snow,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: so when you're walking through that, it's all snow covered.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: And then also when you go through the diagon Alley set,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: they have all the shopfronts and the cobblestone kind of
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: around those shop fronts also covered in snow, so they
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: really take the Christmas Eve holiday vibe throughout the entire
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: studio tour, and then they also have a like a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: demonstration where you can learn how and I feel like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: they did have this when I went years ago, because
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: I feel like I remember this. The snow that they
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: use doesn't melt, obviously, because when you're filming, you know,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: filming can take hours, it can take days. You can't
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: just have all the snow that's melting. So the set
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: decorators are there on the studio tour to show you
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: kind of how they made this snow that doesn't melt
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: as well. So it's a really cool experience. I definitely recommend.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: I think it's one of I mean, all the features
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: that they do at the studio tour are awesome, but
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: I think this is one of the bigger ones they
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: do that kind of really.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: Takes over all the sets. So definitely recommend it. Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's also one thing to see it through
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: a video or through an Instagram post when you see
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: the castle the model, but when you go and see
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: it in person, it just makes you, you know, such
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: ational moment for any fan because it's the closest you'll
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: ever feel to Hogwarts actually, So I can't imagine how
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: beautiful it must be to you it all covered in snow,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: It must be so beautiful. And yeah, I would love.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: To impressed with it.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: It's very impressive, I mean, and like, I mean, I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: went over like a decade ago and I can still
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: like I still have a very vivid memory of it
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: because the model is so it's a large model, and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: just the.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Amount of.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Snow that has to go there. And I remember them
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: there was like little like snowmen that they kind of
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: built on the grounds as well, And it's like, I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: can't imagine the process annually of covering that model with
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: snow and then uncovering it with snow and getting every
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: little piece of that snow off. It's such a it's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: such a feat really, and they do it every year,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: and they've been doing it every year for years, and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: and I want.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: To know what the cleanup process is, Like is it
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: a giant vacuum cleaner? That's how my picture as.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, it's like, is there a vacuum cleaner
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: that kind of goes in first to get the bulk
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: of it, and then they've got to go in and yeah,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: like hand detail handbrush while not falling on the model
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: to make sure it's because after it's it's I mean
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: it's spotless. You would never know that it was that
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: that model was covered in whatever they used for the snow.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: You just would have no idea. I mean, even in
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: like the Diagon Alley set and stuff like that, all
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: the snow they put down there, And like I said,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: I mean I haven't seen the Forbidden Forest set, but
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I can imagine like having to cover all the woods
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: that they have there in the snow and having to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: like pick all that snow up and get it all.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: It just must be such a massive undertaking. Yeah, but
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: I'm glad they do it because it's such a good
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: experience and I hope to be a to go back
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: one day now with all these extra sets that are there,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: just to see what they've done with that.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: But I just remember it being really cool, and I think,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: especially like the.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Gryffindor Common Room set, it's just so nostalgic, like it
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: just makes it like we were just talking about, right, like
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: that warm and fuzzy feeling that you get in that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: first film, and it's like you just are like reminded
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: of it because you're there, You're standing right there, and
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: you can see and hear the whole scene in your head,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: and it's just so warm and inviting and you just
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: want to climb over the barrier and cuddle up on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: that couch in front of the fireplace.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, but risk getting kicked out and we're being able
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: to return.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: If you do it, ban for life in that moment
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: it poster. Yeah, it's going to be worth it.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if they're going to I don't I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: don't think they've done this before. I think they have.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: They dressed the whole Great Hall the way they did
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the Yueld Ball from the films. I wonder if they
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: will bring this back for the twentieth anniversary next year
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: of Goblet of Fire for Christmas. That would be very
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: interesting too. Yeah, but I think they've done that before,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: haven't they.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: And I mean I remember I remember going. I know
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: that there. I think we talked about it in like
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: an earlier episode. They're going to be bringing back some
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: Goblet of Fire stuff in honor of the film anniversary.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: I remember going, and.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: They had the Goblet of Fire out, and they don't
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: normally have it out on display the way that they did,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: and they actually had they did a demonstration of the
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: name pieces like coming out of it, and whoever caught
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: them got to like take it home, and I remember
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: being really mad that I didn't get it. So I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: think they always have like the guy if I remember right,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: I feel like the Goblet of Fire is always on
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: display somewhere, but like that instance, they take it out
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: and have it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: It has its own kind of in the Great Hall.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: They set it up in the Great Hall.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: But I feel like maybe the yeah, they did do
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: something with the yule Ball. I feel like I remember
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: something with like Hermione's dress being on display in a
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: different place. Like I think it's always on display, but
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: they'll what they'll do is they'll bring those certain things
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: out and display them like in the Great Hall. And
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: I know I remember they have the big like found
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: anything that was at the Yule Ball, like the crystally glass.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know what was in it or something like that.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: They have that They do have a couple of the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: tables with the with the bottles and the the dishes
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: and everything, and Hermione's Yule Ball is next to next
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: to all of that, and I think the other outfits
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: as well. But I wonder if they're going to kind
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: of like take it up a notch feature, yeah, through
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: the whole set and just dress it and exactly how
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: we see it in Goblet of Fire. That would be
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: very interesting to bring a lot of visitors in as well,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: because yeah.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think compared to like I guess
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: what they have now is obviously the trees and everything
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: would have to be different than what they normally put out.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: But other than that, hmm, yeah, I think if they're listening,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: they should do that.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, clearly someone's listening if they used Rebellio and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: the show obviously, I mean it's not like Rebellion is
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the most well known and they're selling unique wands at
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the new Wand shop in Wizard Paris and Epic Universe.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Which I mean we talked about that.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: We're the only people who had here first.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Obviously, Yeah, someone's listening, someone's else listening. But yes, I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: think how Ward's in the Snow is like one of
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: a really great thing to do during the holiday season.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Christmas season really get you in the spirit. And wish
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: I still lived in that neck of the woods so
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: that I could go again. But one day, one day,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: I'll be back. But if you are near London, please go.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Please send us pictures so we can live vicariously through you.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: You have until the nineteenth of January of this year,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: but it'll be back next year because they do it annually.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I had for the poor key.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: So nice.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: So last episode we asked our listeners, what animal symbolism
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: have you noticed in the Harry Potter series. So we
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: got a message from Jerry and she says, what about
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: scabbers and rats in general? Heinikol rats mice, and the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: symbolism seems pretty obvious. Rats are not in general held
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: in high regard, So Peter turning into rats seems like
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a pretty big clue that he wasn't a very nice person.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: There are other rats in the series. I especially remember
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: the black skipping rats in the Magical Menagerie when the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: trio was shopping for rat tonic to help Scabbards who
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: was ill or frightened. And this and the fact that
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Krookshanks was purchased from the same shop on that same
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: trip started me thinking of the fates of the pets
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: of the major characters in the series. We all know
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: the fates of Scabbards and poor Hedwig. I remembered Neville's toad,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Trevor left him to live with other toads near the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Hogwarts Lake. I had to look up Kirkshanks. Apparently he
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: was last seen at the Burrow before the wedding. Some
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: assume that he stayed with the Weasleys and was reunited
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: with Hermione either after the final battle of Hogwarts or
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: even or when she married Ron. And I like to
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: think that Scabs half Needle traveled to Australia to live
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: with and watch over Hermione's parents. Like kirk Chanks, Pigwagin
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: seems to have stayed at the Borrow during the Camp
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Pink trip events of Deadly Hollows, and I like to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: think that the separation from their pets by death or
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: other means was one way. Was one way the author
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: used to symbolize these characters growing up.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: That's so true. We always talk about the Hedwig situation,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: but we never talked about the other two in their
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: childhood pets.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I always want Gabbers he was in the
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: family for a while.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I always wonder what happened to Kirk
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: Shanks as well. Where was he last seen or what
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: happened at the end? Did he renait with Hermione because
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: obviously he wasn't inside Hermione speeded bag. But yeah, it's it. Also,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like them leaving behind their childhood and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: entering this hard adulthood all of a sudden. It's not
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: just leaving school behind, it's leaving family behind, it's leaving
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: their pets behind and just venturing into this very dangerous world.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also the Peter and Rat symbolism. He literally
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: rats out his friends. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: So for this week, we would like to know do
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: you think the Christmas events and the Harry Potter books
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: follow a pattern? If so, what is it? As always,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: we would love to hear from you. Drop us an
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: email at Revalley Podcast staff at gmail dot com, or
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: reach us on social media. You can find us on
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Facebook at Facebook dot com, backslash Revaluecast, on Twitter at Revellio,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Underscore podcast, on Instagram at revalue podcast, and you can
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: also support the show on Patreon at Patreon dot com
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: backslash Revalue Podcast.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that is our last episode before Christmas, but
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: we'll see you guys, after Christmas, the day after Christmas,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: on my birthday.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: Well, we will be recording on my birthday, but it'll
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: come out on my birthday. But yeah, I hope everyone
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: has a happy Christmas or whatever holiday you celebrate. Hopefully
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: it's way more joyous than it is for Harry Ron
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: and her mind.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, which probably will be because.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: You're probably not trying to defeat.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: A dark wizard, so you already have that going for you.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Amy, I'm Nicole, and I'm Tom Semished h