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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the large Ner Droun Collider podcast,
- 0:13Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
- 0:16Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
- 0:18Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always,
- 0:22Speaker 1: is the delightful Jonathan Star.
- 0:26Speaker 2: I got turned into a dracula?
- 0:30Speaker 1: You got Wait? How'd you get turned into a dracula?
- 0:32Speaker 1: Are you on my discord?
- 0:35Speaker 2: Oh? Did other people get turned onto on a dracula?
- 0:38Speaker 1: No? I was talking about vampires on a discord channel
- 0:42Speaker 1: that was distracting me earlier. No, how'd you get why'd
- 0:45Speaker 1: you get vampire? Vampired?
- 0:47Speaker 2: I didn't say I got vampired? I said I got
- 0:50Speaker 2: turned into a dracula.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Well, Dracula is a vampire.
- 0:55Speaker 2: So so uh. Yesterday I went out for a stroll
- 1:01Speaker 2: with friend of the show, Shaye Lee, and we decided
- 1:06Speaker 2: to explore a trail called the Mountain to River Trail,
- 1:11Speaker 2: not realizing how long this trail actually was, and we
- 1:14Speaker 2: didn't go that far. We went about a mile down
- 1:17Speaker 2: the trail.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Did you go over the river and through the woods.
- 1:20Speaker 2: We did go over a highway, but we didn't go through. Yeah,
- 1:25Speaker 2: there's a pedestrian bridge. It's not really a highway. We
- 1:27Speaker 2: went over a very busy street on a pedestrian bridge.
- 1:30Speaker 2: We didn't get to the river because that was another
- 1:33Speaker 2: nine miles away and we did not walk that far,
- 1:36Speaker 2: but we did walk through a cemetery anyway. On this walk,
- 1:41Speaker 2: we had a conversation about how we both find it
- 1:46Speaker 2: funny whenever someone refers to vampires as draculas, which usually
- 1:53Speaker 2: is done for comedic effect, right, Like, it's not purposeful.
- 1:57Speaker 2: You don't really run into that many people who will
- 2:00Speaker 2: reference a vampire as a dracula, but we just even
- 2:05Speaker 2: though it's not a really you know something, you really
- 2:07Speaker 2: run into it in real life. We both find it
- 2:09Speaker 2: funny whenever anyone does that. It's cheap comedy and it
- 2:14Speaker 2: works every time on us. So that's that's why I
- 2:17Speaker 2: said it delightful.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Delightful. Did I go walking anywhere this past weekend? I
- 2:26Speaker 1: feel like I did, but I don't remember.
- 2:29Speaker 2: We'll have to go. We'll have to have you join
- 2:31Speaker 2: us on some of our walks. We tend to do
- 2:34Speaker 2: it during the week when it's not crazy on all
- 2:38Speaker 2: the different pathways, so that does make it harder for you.
- 2:41Speaker 2: But maybe sometime we can do like a like a
- 2:44Speaker 2: group stroll somewhere. There's a selection of walking trails that
- 2:49Speaker 2: are a good distance out and it would be a
- 2:51Speaker 2: heck of a trek for you because it's on the
- 2:53Speaker 2: southeast side of the city, but or outside the city.
- 2:57Speaker 2: But the trails lead to a monastery which has got
- 3:01Speaker 2: amazing architecture. Yeah, and I've never actually I've only seen pictures.
- 3:05Speaker 2: I've never actually been, but it looks amazing.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I would like to go to there. Yeah, I don't
- 3:12Speaker 1: think I did much walking this weekend. I played I
- 3:14Speaker 1: played D and D and I saw Josh Johnson. So
- 3:19Speaker 1: that was fun.
- 3:20Speaker 2: That's great, that's cool. Yeah. The weekend I did, I
- 3:24Speaker 2: celebrate my anniversary twenty eight years. So my partner and
- 3:31Speaker 2: I we went to a vegetarian restaurant here in town
- 3:36Speaker 2: that apparently is Billie Eilish's favorite vegetarian restaurant in Atlanta.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Oh nice.
- 3:42Speaker 2: We did not see her, although Addison Ray had a
- 3:45Speaker 2: concert right across the street, so we got to see
- 3:48Speaker 2: lots of very young people dressed in almost kind of
- 3:53Speaker 2: anime style clothing waiting in a extremely long line to
- 3:58Speaker 2: get into the venue.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I don't know if I know Addison Ray, but I mean, like,
- 4:02Speaker 1: the name sounds familiar, but I don't think it's listened
- 4:04Speaker 1: to her stuff.
- 4:05Speaker 2: So she she's She rose to prominence on TikTok apparently,
- 4:10Speaker 2: and I have seen her, but only in stuff like
- 4:14Speaker 2: she was in Thanksgiving, the Eli Roth horror movie. I
- 4:18Speaker 2: saw her in that, but I had no idea. I
- 4:22Speaker 2: had to look her up. Like at first, I had
- 4:24Speaker 2: to look up who is it that's playing at the
- 4:26Speaker 2: Eastern because there's so many young people waiting in line.
- 4:30Speaker 2: And when I say young, I mean like they literally
- 4:32Speaker 2: like a range of teenager to say, mid to late
- 4:36Speaker 2: twenties like that. But I'm I'm fifty, so that is
- 4:39Speaker 2: very young to me. So yeah, I thought, well, whoever
- 4:44Speaker 2: it is, they're really popular with the young'ins. And I
- 4:47Speaker 2: looked it up and I saw I was asking Ray,
- 4:49Speaker 2: and I'm like, Okay, well, now I need to look
- 4:50Speaker 2: up who this is because the name didn't ring any
- 4:54Speaker 2: bells for me either.
- 4:55Speaker 1: I do a lot of tiktoks, so I don't make them,
- 4:59Speaker 1: but I'm on there a lot, so likely I've heard her,
- 5:02Speaker 1: and I'm just not connecting the name to the music
- 5:06Speaker 1: that happens a lot.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Ye well, and and I am so detached from all
- 5:12Speaker 2: because you know, I'm not on any social stuff anymore.
- 5:15Speaker 2: So I don't except for YouTube and a very small
- 5:20Speaker 2: subset of subreddits, and that's it. So I don't, I don't.
- 5:25Speaker 2: I'm not aware of pop culture anymore. I've definitely reached
- 5:28Speaker 2: that point of old age where I am completely out
- 5:30Speaker 2: of touch and I'm aware of it. And that's okay,
- 5:32Speaker 2: Like I realize that's that's for the young people, and
- 5:36Speaker 2: it's okay that I don't know what it is. I mean,
- 5:40Speaker 2: it's it's six or seven. I don't know what that means.
- 5:48Speaker 1: I might know. I had to have to hear it
- 5:51Speaker 1: in context, okay, And as.
- 5:54Speaker 2: The point is, it doesn't mean anything.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh, I like I don't know, I have.
- 6:04Speaker 1: My brain's just short circuited there. And I'm not even
- 6:08Speaker 1: grumpy old I'm just I'm pretty like I know I
- 6:13Speaker 1: know some of the really like current slang too. I
- 6:19Speaker 1: even use a little bit of it.
- 6:20Speaker 2: So I think I think I misused. I think it's
- 6:24Speaker 2: technically just six seven, but it's it's accompanied by like
- 6:28Speaker 2: sort of like a like you're weighing things hand gesture.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Six seven. But apparently that's like a whole mean trend
- 6:36Speaker 2: on social that uh like, I only find out about
- 6:40Speaker 2: this when it leaks into some other format that I
- 6:43Speaker 2: actually still consume.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. So each week I will bring a new
- 6:49Speaker 1: current slang that I am also technically tooled for and
- 6:53Speaker 1: use it at Jonathan.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Or what a real a real fun game for you
- 6:59Speaker 2: would to present to me something that you claim to
- 7:03Speaker 2: be slang and I have to figure out if it
- 7:05Speaker 2: actually is slang or you just made it up.
- 7:08Speaker 1: That's gonna that's gonna take a lot of work. We'll
- 7:10Speaker 1: see if I'm up to that at some point.
- 7:13Speaker 2: That's that's fair.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Uh Like, it's not like the actual slang is easy.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Making up something that you'll believe is slang.
- 7:21Speaker 2: I hear you. Yeah, No, that's tricky because like like
- 7:25Speaker 2: you're like, how dumb do I go? Because sometimes like
- 7:28Speaker 2: modern slang to an old person like me can seem
- 7:32Speaker 2: exceedingly dumb. But you know, when you're trying to make
- 7:35Speaker 2: something up, you want it to be believable, and you're like,
- 7:38Speaker 2: I can't make it too dumb.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had to look up what Bosh meant
- 7:43Speaker 1: the other day.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Oh was I were you like watching an English comedy
- 7:48Speaker 2: or something.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I was watching task Master. I just finished season seven,
- 7:53Speaker 1: Series seven, and uh, Carrie Gotten, Gotten him Gotten. Carrie
- 8:01Speaker 1: and Greg the task Master used bosh a lot in
- 8:06Speaker 1: a very funny way, and I was like, let me
- 8:08Speaker 1: see what that means, because there's there's a lot of
- 8:10Speaker 1: like British vernacular that I would love to adopt. I
- 8:14Speaker 1: like it.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Yeah, but you want to make sure it's not super
- 8:18Speaker 2: rude before you start using it. Yeah.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Yeah, so like I'm not going to use the C word.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Well no, yeah, that's so casual over there that it
- 8:28Speaker 2: is shocking to American years.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure. Okay, Well enough dithering. I got
- 8:37Speaker 1: a question for you.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Shoot hit me with your question.
- 8:42Speaker 1: I want to hit you with my question. Well, bam,
- 8:45Speaker 1: what is the coolest Halloween costume? And it has to
- 8:49Speaker 1: be from Halloween that you have ever done?
- 8:52Speaker 2: Yeah, this was tricky for me. Fair warning. Ariel did
- 8:58Speaker 2: share this with me before we started barely barely, yeah,
- 9:02Speaker 2: like maybe five minutes before I started recording. And it
- 9:06Speaker 2: is tricky simply because I haven't dressed up for Halloween
- 9:09Speaker 2: in a long time, and because we don't get trick
- 9:13Speaker 2: or treaters there's not much point unless I'm going out
- 9:16Speaker 2: someplace where we're doing some sort of Halloween themed activity.
- 9:21Speaker 2: But for me, and also I dressed up in costumes
- 9:24Speaker 2: for a lot of other things, so it's easy for
- 9:26Speaker 2: me to conflate them, right. Like I almost said, I
- 9:29Speaker 2: almost said kabuki mask from Big Hero six, but I've
- 9:33Speaker 2: never done that restrain. Yes, it was just for dragon Con.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Same with like Renaissance Lex Luthor, that was just for
- 9:39Speaker 2: dragon Con. So instead I thought of this. It was
- 9:44Speaker 2: essentially my Renaissance Festival costume. Like it's the same one
- 9:47Speaker 2: I wore in my last stint as the Admiral and
- 9:51Speaker 2: as a Robert Camembert Marquis de Roquefort, but it had
- 9:57Speaker 2: I had a dragon mask. So it's this very ornate
- 10:01Speaker 2: Renaissance Festival costume, noble costume, like with a black doublet
- 10:07Speaker 2: with the red shirt underneath and you know, gold accents
- 10:14Speaker 2: and then this red dragon mask I wore, and I
- 10:18Speaker 2: wore that for Halloween, and I thought that was a
- 10:20Speaker 2: pretty cool looking ensemble when it was all together, and
- 10:24Speaker 2: I even sent you a picture so you could see.
- 10:26Speaker 1: You did it is really cool. I will post it
- 10:29Speaker 1: for people on Discord and hopefully our website. No no
- 10:35Speaker 1: promises on the ladder, but I'll definitely get it on
- 10:37Speaker 1: Discord because it is a really cool costume and it's
- 10:39Speaker 1: a cool picture you've got of it too.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those where like the light is
- 10:43Speaker 2: kind of behind me, so it's cast me in shadow,
- 10:45Speaker 2: because it's one of those customs that definitely looks best
- 10:49Speaker 2: in low light for the mask. Like the costume itself
- 10:52Speaker 2: looks great in daylight, but the mask in particular looks
- 10:56Speaker 2: better in that low lighting situation. But what about you,
- 10:58Speaker 2: what's your coolest Halloween closet time?
- 11:01Speaker 1: So I don't remember a lot from when I was
- 11:04Speaker 1: like an older kid slash young adult, because a lot
- 11:11Speaker 1: of them were like, oh, I got this cute prairie
- 11:14Speaker 1: dress and I feel a little sexy and it so
- 11:16Speaker 1: let me wear that. But as an adult, once I
- 11:21Speaker 1: got into the LARP community, I got invited. I've started
- 11:24Speaker 1: getting invited to Halloween parties. Like as a kid, I
- 11:27Speaker 1: would do Halloween stuff around my community. It was really
- 11:29Speaker 1: great because you know, I lived in an apartment complex
- 11:32Speaker 1: and everybody got involved and did fun things and we
- 11:35Speaker 1: all went out as a giant group. I had a
- 11:36Speaker 1: I was very fortunate to have a very I'm going
- 11:39Speaker 1: on a big bunny trail here, have a very active
- 11:42Speaker 1: community life and community built in when I was growing
- 11:48Speaker 1: up in my where I was living, so I don't
- 11:51Speaker 1: remember a lot of those, but as an adult in
- 11:52Speaker 1: the LARP community, I started getting invited to a bunch
- 11:55Speaker 1: of parties and they always had a theme, and so
- 11:58Speaker 1: I've actually had quite a few that I have thought
- 12:01Speaker 1: have been really fun. The two that stick out most
- 12:06Speaker 1: in my head because they're always kind of one of those.
- 12:09Speaker 1: I've got a month. Let me see what i can
- 12:11Speaker 1: throw together. But the two that fit most in my
- 12:14Speaker 1: head is Indiana Joan of Arc, except for it was
- 12:21Speaker 1: Joan from mad Men carrying an arc with a with
- 12:26Speaker 1: a Martina. It was carrying the Arc of the Covenant
- 12:28Speaker 1: from Indiana Jones with a Martini glass inside of it.
- 12:32Speaker 2: So for your next costume, I recommend you wear a
- 12:35Speaker 2: hat on top of your other hat.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, but it worked out well. And
- 12:43Speaker 1: then the other one I liked was one year the
- 12:46Speaker 1: theme was fear fears or phobias or something like that.
- 12:50Speaker 1: So I went as the fear of abandonment and I
- 12:54Speaker 1: turned a big old teddy bear. I had into a backpack,
- 12:58Speaker 1: and I dressed up like a little kid, and I
- 13:01Speaker 1: bought a balloon and mostly deflate like a helium balloon
- 13:04Speaker 1: and mostly deflated it and went around asking have you
- 13:07Speaker 1: seen my mommy? Wow, I don't think I have a
- 13:11Speaker 1: picture of that one. I do think I have a
- 13:13Speaker 1: picture of Indiana Joan.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Of arc Jeez. Nice to inflict psychological trauma upon others.
- 13:21Speaker 1: I mean it was that one was literally what do
- 13:25Speaker 1: I have? What can I pull together? Last minute? But
- 13:28Speaker 1: I thought it was a clever, a clever, like not
- 13:31Speaker 1: a fear everybody would necessarily go to when you go
- 13:34Speaker 1: to a Halloween party.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Sure, and that's.
- 13:36Speaker 1: What I like, write botusqu do you remember your very
- 13:39Speaker 1: first like, what is the very first Halloween costume?
- 13:42Speaker 2: I remember?
- 13:42Speaker 1: If you can remember.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Any Okay, well, all right, so my mom. You've met
- 13:49Speaker 2: my parents. My mom loved to make costumes for me
- 13:53Speaker 2: and my little sister, so we had lots of different costumes.
- 13:57Speaker 2: And I'll tell you one I remember for sure that
- 14:01Speaker 2: doesn't make me cringe, because there is one that does
- 14:03Speaker 2: make me cringe, and I'm not sharing that on here,
- 14:06Speaker 2: but the one that doesn't make me cringe is They
- 14:10Speaker 2: dressed me up as a Ghostbuster one year, and so
- 14:15Speaker 2: I had a proton pack that was like a cardboard
- 14:17Speaker 2: box that been coated with like tinfoil and had some
- 14:21Speaker 2: LEDs poking through that actually lit up and had a
- 14:25Speaker 2: little like you know wand that came within and everything.
- 14:30Speaker 2: And that was one of my favorites as a kid
- 14:32Speaker 2: because I loved the movie Ghostbusters. I was the perfect
- 14:36Speaker 2: age to watch that movie and not completely understand everything
- 14:40Speaker 2: that was going on because I was still a kid,
- 14:41Speaker 2: so I did none of the Bill Murray sleeves, buckets
- 14:44Speaker 2: stuff really made sense to me. But I loved the
- 14:48Speaker 2: movie for its you know, creativity and everything and like
- 14:53Speaker 2: you know lines like what about the Twinkie those? I
- 14:55Speaker 2: thought it was the height of comedy, and so I
- 14:58Speaker 2: was really pleased to to have that as my Halloween
- 15:02Speaker 2: costume one year.
- 15:04Speaker 1: I never dressed up as Ghostbusters as a kid, but
- 15:07Speaker 1: I did at one of my lart parties. I dressed
- 15:09Speaker 1: up as Janine. And they don't sell slimmer balloons, so
- 15:14Speaker 1: I had to buy like a green heart balloon and
- 15:16Speaker 1: turn it into a slimer by like taping a mouth
- 15:19Speaker 1: and eyes on it.
- 15:20Speaker 2: And arms on it and things like that, and then I.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Had a little slimmer floating around with me. The first
- 15:25Speaker 1: Halloween costume that I remember, and I think I was
- 15:29Speaker 1: like four or five at the time. It was before
- 15:33Speaker 1: I moved to Georgia, so I was under seven, and
- 15:37Speaker 1: I dressed as Butterbear from the Wuzzles. But it was
- 15:39Speaker 1: like one of those old old costumes where it's like
- 15:42Speaker 1: the like the sheet kinda like with the plastic mask.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, where it's like it's like you're
- 15:51Speaker 2: wearing an oversized pillow case that has the print of
- 15:55Speaker 2: a character on it and then the plastic mask with
- 15:58Speaker 2: the thin band of like the string of elastic that
- 16:02Speaker 2: cuts into the back of your head.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Yeah. I uh I. I loved it. I loved the Whustles.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a picture of it because I
- 16:14Speaker 1: know it existed.
- 16:16Speaker 2: But well, I mean it's also from an era before
- 16:20Speaker 2: there was like widespread use of the Internet or anything
- 16:25Speaker 2: like that. So yeah, you know, it's it's like, when
- 16:29Speaker 2: I think about stuff from my childhood, I'm amazed if
- 16:33Speaker 2: I can even find representations online because I mean, at
- 16:38Speaker 2: this point they're antiques, right, Like it's not or vintage.
- 16:42Speaker 2: If you want to be kinder, they're vintage, and so
- 16:46Speaker 2: you know it's it's unless it was something that really
- 16:50Speaker 2: struck a chord in my generation and that there's since
- 16:53Speaker 2: been replicas made. It can be hard to find some
- 16:57Speaker 2: of that stuff.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I I can find a couple of the other characters,
- 17:03Speaker 1: but I can't find I can't find butter Bear. She
- 17:08Speaker 1: was a little yellow bear that was also a butterfly
- 17:11Speaker 1: with little flower antenna.
- 17:14Speaker 2: The wuzzles were for I remember this, I remember this.
- 17:19Speaker 1: Yeah, the wuzzles were like you had bumble Lion, who
- 17:22Speaker 1: was a lion, bumblebee and things like that.
- 17:25Speaker 2: So when you were first talking about it, I had
- 17:28Speaker 2: no memory of this whatsoever. But the more you talk
- 17:31Speaker 2: about the more I'm like, oh wait, yeah, no, that's
- 17:33Speaker 2: buried in there, deep in my brain. I do remember
- 17:35Speaker 2: these things.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Yeah. So there was bumble Lion. There was Ella rou
- 17:40Speaker 1: which was an elephant kangaroo. There was Mussol that was
- 17:44Speaker 1: a moose seal, Hoppopotamus, which I love. Topopotamus was a
- 17:48Speaker 1: hippo rabbit, Rinonkey, and then.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Please Please end Me, which was just a failed mishmash
- 17:57Speaker 2: of all the most least wanted body parts of different animals, and.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Then there was things that like there was also they
- 18:04Speaker 1: didn't always make sense, like Brat, which was a boar dragon.
- 18:09Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't make sense, but.
- 18:12Speaker 1: It was cute. It was a little kid's cartoon. It
- 18:14Speaker 1: was cute.
- 18:15Speaker 2: So we're looking forward to hearing from you, are beloved
- 18:19Speaker 2: listeners about your favorite Halloween costumes, either in the far
- 18:24Speaker 2: distant past or maybe the recent past, or maybe even
- 18:26Speaker 2: what you're planning this year, if you're playing on dressing
- 18:29Speaker 2: up for anything. I don't have any plans that relate
- 18:33Speaker 2: to Halloween this year, so I don't have any costume plans.
- 18:36Speaker 2: I will be taking another trip down to Orlando, but
- 18:42Speaker 2: we're not actually doing the Halloween party over at Disney. Instead,
- 18:46Speaker 2: we're doing the Food and Wine Festival where we're going
- 18:49Speaker 2: to be going and trying all the different foods. But yeah,
- 18:54Speaker 2: it's a double Epcot trip, so we won't be Yeah.
- 18:59Speaker 1: The last time I went to and Wine, I won
- 19:01Speaker 1: the cheese badge. I was so happy. We're so very sick.
- 19:04Speaker 2: I'm planning on trying to do that too. That's one
- 19:07Speaker 2: of the reasons why we're doing two days is so
- 19:09Speaker 2: that we can try a bunch of different little things,
- 19:13Speaker 2: but not like feel gross afterward. We're also kinda hopeful,
- 19:19Speaker 2: though you know, this might be in vain, that the
- 19:22Speaker 2: weather will be mild enough so that we're not feeling
- 19:25Speaker 2: gross just walking around in the heat.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:28Speaker 2: Like, there's so many dishes that I wouldn't mind trying,
- 19:32Speaker 2: except that they're so heavy, and you're like, it's boiling
- 19:35Speaker 2: hot and incredibly humid, and if I eat that, I'm
- 19:39Speaker 2: gonna feel sick.
- 19:40Speaker 1: And then if they have the Reclet, which I like Reclet,
- 19:43Speaker 1: but if they.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Have it, that's the one I'm mostly thinking of.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like Reclet. It is a stinky,
- 19:48Speaker 1: stinky cheese. It smells like feet, but it doesn't taste
- 19:52Speaker 1: like feet. It's not like rope, is it roquefort?
- 19:56Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 19:56Speaker 1: Limburger, Limburger, Like it's stinky, but it tastes like a
- 20:03Speaker 1: pretty much like a Swiss cheese. But yeah, it's hot,
- 20:07Speaker 1: and waiting in line for it is hot, and then
- 20:10Speaker 1: it's you get it with like bread and pickles and
- 20:13Speaker 1: potatoes and it's just very heavy.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So we're hopeful that maybe it won't be
- 20:19Speaker 2: too brutal as far as the weather goes. We're also
- 20:23Speaker 2: staying at a resort that's on the World Showcase side
- 20:28Speaker 2: of Epcot, so that if it does get super hot
- 20:31Speaker 2: and we just need to escape, we can go back
- 20:33Speaker 2: to the hotel and rest in the air conditioning for
- 20:35Speaker 2: a while before we come back out. That kind of thing,
- 20:37Speaker 2: because I mean, as I get older, it gets harder
- 20:43Speaker 2: for me to endure that kind of heat and humidity.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Even living in Georgia, it's still rough. But anyway, that
- 20:50Speaker 2: goes way off kilter from the Halloween stuff. Let's get
- 20:55Speaker 2: the show back on track now that we're twenty minutes
- 20:57Speaker 2: into it and talk about the stuff that we've watched
- 21:00Speaker 2: since our last recording. Now it's only been a week
- 21:03Speaker 2: by Ariel, what you've been up to.
- 21:06Speaker 1: So I've watched a bunch of task Master because that
- 21:08Speaker 1: is my go to right now. I need to watch Peacemaker,
- 21:11Speaker 1: but it's hard when there is so much task Master.
- 21:14Speaker 1: I'm actually I just finished, as I said, series seven,
- 21:17Speaker 1: so I only have six series plus the current one left,
- 21:22Speaker 1: and that's a little sad to me because I'm really
- 21:25Speaker 1: enjoying it. I'm working backwards. I have also I finished
- 21:31Speaker 1: season one of Wednesday and started season two and I
- 21:40Speaker 1: I hold like my opinion of Wednesday season one has
- 21:45Speaker 1: held throughout the entire season. I think that Mortitia and
- 21:48Speaker 1: Gomez just didn't have the spunk and the spark that
- 21:51Speaker 1: they needed to really feel like the Adams family. Even
- 21:54Speaker 1: Pugsley was missing it some and Fred Armison, who plays
- 21:59Speaker 1: Uncle Fester, tried to bring it in, so it felt
- 22:02Speaker 1: out of place when he was doing it because everybody
- 22:04Speaker 1: else was so low key. I think Jenna Wortega does
- 22:07Speaker 1: an amazing job as Wednesday. I think she plays the
- 22:09Speaker 1: character very well, but I felt the other characters were
- 22:12Speaker 1: a little uneven to meet the Adams Family vibe. I
- 22:16Speaker 1: also watched the first half of episode one of season two,
- 22:20Speaker 1: and it seems that they have made it a lot
- 22:21Speaker 1: more quirky. I'm enjoying the vibe a lot more so
- 22:27Speaker 1: I will probably stick with season two and finish it
- 22:29Speaker 1: out because I heard that it was better, but I
- 22:32Speaker 1: also heard you should watch season one and then I've
- 22:35Speaker 1: been watching all of the intro videos that have come
- 22:37Speaker 1: out with all of my co players for my actual play,
- 22:43Speaker 1: and it's it's humbling and inspiring to see how everybody
- 22:46Speaker 1: else plays and think about thinks about their characters. You know,
- 22:48Speaker 1: it really gives you a great idea of like, oh
- 22:52Speaker 1: I should think about that, or oh I like how
- 22:54Speaker 1: they did that. It is really cool. It is really
- 22:56Speaker 1: cool to see everybody else's thought processes and I'm very
- 22:58Speaker 1: much looking forward to it.
- 22:59Speaker 2: So nice.
- 23:01Speaker 1: What about you.
- 23:03Speaker 2: I am caught up on Peacemaker at this point, So
- 23:07Speaker 2: when we last recorded, episode six had just come out,
- 23:13Speaker 2: but I had not yet seen it. Now I've seen
- 23:16Speaker 2: everything up through episode seven. Episode which is the penultimate episode,
- 23:21Speaker 2: Episode eight, it's the finale, comes out next week. I
- 23:24Speaker 2: saw the trailer for episode eight, and it's very James Gunn, so,
- 23:31Speaker 2: like you know, James Gunn's very good at upping the
- 23:35Speaker 2: stakes and the threats the characters face. And so episode
- 23:41Speaker 2: seven ends in a way as you would expect, in
- 23:43Speaker 2: that things are probably about as dark as they possibly
- 23:46Speaker 2: can be for our characters, and episode eight will be
- 23:50Speaker 2: the resolution. And so I knew going into it that
- 23:56Speaker 2: that was probably gonna happen, but it's still kind of
- 23:58Speaker 2: like it was still a pretty impactful episode. I will
- 24:02Speaker 2: also say that there is a twist in the season,
- 24:06Speaker 2: sort of. I don't think it's really a twist, but
- 24:08Speaker 2: there's there's something that happens in the season that's a reveal,
- 24:12Speaker 2: and it's wild because it was something that I suspected
- 24:17Speaker 2: earlier in the season ended up deciding I was probably wrong,
- 24:23Speaker 2: and then when it was revealed, I was like, nope,
- 24:25Speaker 2: I was right at the beginning.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Nice, but well, don't doubt your.
- 24:32Speaker 2: My instincts. Yeah. I don't want to give any spoilers
- 24:36Speaker 2: because I think it's worth watching. But I will also
- 24:40Speaker 2: say the reveal it relies on a pretty heavy cheat
- 24:45Speaker 2: from a storytelling process, in that your point of view
- 24:52Speaker 2: as an audience member has been so carefully controlled that
- 24:55Speaker 2: there was no way for you to have necessarily noticed
- 24:59Speaker 2: something thing like.
- 25:01Speaker 1: You're smart like Johnathan.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Or you just or you just know how James Gun works, right, Like,
- 25:07Speaker 2: It's it's not that I'm smart, it's just I've seen
- 25:09Speaker 2: a James Gun movie and series.
- 25:12Speaker 1: Before, so two things can be true, thank you.
- 25:16Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, I highly recommend Peacemaker if you don't
- 25:21Speaker 2: mind a lot of gratuitous violence and nudity, because there
- 25:25Speaker 2: is quite a bit of that. Although I will say again, uh,
- 25:29Speaker 2: the nudity has not really been a factor in the
- 25:33Speaker 2: the the season since episode.
- 25:36Speaker 1: Two Okay, that is good to know and a little
- 25:40Speaker 1: bit uh delightful, so like, but yeah, it was just
- 25:46Speaker 1: episode one.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Yeah, Episode one has the brunt like the vast majority
- 25:52Speaker 2: of the gratuitous nudity, and it's it's it. Gratuitous is
- 25:56Speaker 2: a tough word to use because it is being used
- 25:59Speaker 2: for a point, there is a reason for it, but
- 26:02Speaker 2: it's also being used as kind of a joke. Like
- 26:05Speaker 2: it it's doing it's both being important to give you
- 26:10Speaker 2: insight into a character's mindset and the psychology of that character,
- 26:16Speaker 2: but it's also being used as a joke.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like you could show that not to
- 26:27Speaker 1: that extreme and still get the point across. That's where
- 26:29Speaker 1: the gratuity comes in.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I suppose, But then you could say the
- 26:33Speaker 2: same thing. So again, not to spoil anything, but like
- 26:37Speaker 2: there's another character in that show who goes to incredible
- 26:41Speaker 2: extremes in order to quote unquote feel something, and that's
- 26:47Speaker 2: also you could argue gratuitous, but it's not. It doesn't
- 26:51Speaker 2: involve nudity, involves violence. But it's essentially two sides of
- 26:56Speaker 2: the same coin. It's just one is kind of a
- 26:59Speaker 2: heatedness stick search for, you know, try to use pleasure
- 27:05Speaker 2: to drive out all the darkness, and the other is
- 27:08Speaker 2: violence to do the same sort of thing. So it's
- 27:11Speaker 2: two sides of the same coin, just different ways of
- 27:13Speaker 2: expressing it. Which, yeah, you know honestly that that becomes
- 27:16Speaker 2: more and more of a thing as the show goes on,
- 27:18Speaker 2: in the sense that, like, I feel like it's almost
- 27:21Speaker 2: a little heavy handed. But but depending on how much
- 27:25Speaker 2: you're paying attention, you might need it to be heavy handed.
- 27:27Speaker 2: So you're like, oh, I get it, they're the same.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Well I do look
- 27:34Speaker 1: forward to catching up on it. I also in the
- 27:37Speaker 1: first episode that that violence was a lot for me
- 27:41Speaker 1: as well.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a rough scene. So all right,
- 27:47Speaker 2: well let us segue once more to talk a little
- 27:51Speaker 2: bit about a lot of things in our our segment
- 27:54Speaker 2: that we'd like to call half a minute or shorter.
- 27:59Speaker 1: Half a minute shorter, I like it. Okay. So the
- 28:04Speaker 1: first story we have is news came out I guess
- 28:08Speaker 1: this week about an AI actor named Tillie Norwood, and
- 28:13Speaker 1: then there were like reports of agencies wanting to sign
- 28:17Speaker 1: this AI actor. There's there's not a person behind it.
- 28:20Speaker 1: It is a fully AI creation, like Godzilla would be
- 28:26Speaker 1: and the union, the sag After Union, has spoken out
- 28:29Speaker 1: about it, saying that producers should be aware that they
- 28:37Speaker 1: may not use synthetic performers without complying with their contractual obligations,
- 28:41Speaker 1: which generally require notice and bargaining when a synthetic performer
- 28:45Speaker 1: is going to be used. And that is because part
- 28:48Speaker 1: of what the last strike it was about was not
- 28:51Speaker 1: banking actors' images to be able to just invoices, to
- 28:55Speaker 1: be able to put them in in scenes that they
- 28:57Speaker 1: haven't acted in. You know, they do that with like
- 29:01Speaker 1: they did that in Star Wars when certain actors passed
- 29:04Speaker 1: away and things like that. They got permission for that,
- 29:06Speaker 1: But then they were also doing it for like extra
- 29:11Speaker 1: workers and even some actors and voice actors being like
- 29:14Speaker 1: but they were putting in clauses where we could use
- 29:15Speaker 1: it for anything, like Tillie Norwood. I I understand that
- 29:22Speaker 1: AI is going to be a thing. It's just an
- 29:26Speaker 1: computer program and it can be used as a tool.
- 29:29Speaker 1: I am not particularly interested in watching AI creatures be
- 29:37Speaker 1: tell me a story, right, even when you watch like
- 29:42Speaker 1: a Pixar movie, it's I'm going way over thirty seconds
- 29:45Speaker 1: for this. I didn't mean to sorry. Ah, even when
- 29:48Speaker 1: you watch Pixar, there's a human actor behind behind the character.
- 29:52Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Well in human animators too, all right, forget it. This
- 29:56Speaker 2: isn't thirty seconds or less anymore. This is quick discussion
- 29:59Speaker 2: on AI. So yeah, CGI is different from AI. CGI
- 30:04Speaker 2: is just like that's that's as if you were using
- 30:08Speaker 2: ink and paper or pen and a canvas or a
- 30:12Speaker 2: paintbrush in a canvas. CGI is just another tool AI.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Artificial creation of things takes the human artistry out of
- 30:21Speaker 2: the equation. You are relying on an algorithmically driven program
- 30:27Speaker 2: to generate something, and so I think it's you know,
- 30:30Speaker 2: you have to draw a line. There is a fundamental
- 30:32Speaker 2: difference between the things that humans create and something that's
- 30:36Speaker 2: AI generated. And whether it's an actor, or it's a screenplay,
- 30:43Speaker 2: or it's special effects like one and a lot of
- 30:47Speaker 2: these things, you can tell because it's just doesn't feel right,
- 30:50Speaker 2: you know, doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like it
- 30:53Speaker 2: was created with intent. But also, even as they get better,
- 30:57Speaker 2: let's say that it gets to a point where you
- 30:59Speaker 2: cannot easily distinguished between what was generated by AI and
- 31:03Speaker 2: what was generated by artists. You start to question, well,
- 31:05Speaker 2: what's art at that point if it's not, if there's
- 31:08Speaker 2: no human you know, anima behind it, and it's it's
- 31:13Speaker 2: just depressing to me. It's like, I want to see
- 31:18Speaker 2: the expression of actual artists. I don't want to see
- 31:22Speaker 2: a bunch of numbers that randomly generated this thing that
- 31:28Speaker 2: I see before me. Even if it was meant to be,
- 31:30Speaker 2: you know, tailor made to my type of preferences for entertainment,
- 31:35Speaker 2: I have no interest in that. And so this is
- 31:40Speaker 2: in the news a lot, not just because of this.
- 31:42Speaker 2: AI actor and other actor organizations around the world have
- 31:47Speaker 2: also spoken out about this, but also because I don't
- 31:51Speaker 2: know if you're aware. Ariel but open Ai launched an
- 31:55Speaker 2: AI based video sharing social platform called Sora so or.
- 32:04Speaker 2: This one is super disturbing to me because you can
- 32:08Speaker 2: use it to generate videos that include like videos, AI
- 32:12Speaker 2: generate videos of say, your friends doing stuff, and I'm like,
- 32:17Speaker 2: I don't want to appear I don't want my likeness
- 32:21Speaker 2: and voice to appear online doing things that I didn't do. Right,
- 32:25Speaker 2: I don't care if it's on a social platform that's
- 32:30Speaker 2: just being seen by friends of mine. If you're a
- 32:32Speaker 2: friend of mine, don't do that, because that's just it's
- 32:35Speaker 2: it's a violation. I yeah, you know, it's it's it's
- 32:39Speaker 2: a thing that it's like, hey, we know that deep
- 32:42Speaker 2: fakes are possible, how about we make it easier to
- 32:45Speaker 2: create them. It's such an incredibly a moral thing to
- 32:49Speaker 2: do that I find it deeply disturbing. And I think
- 32:54Speaker 2: the only thing more disturbing than that is just the
- 32:57Speaker 2: casual way that Open Ai launches these things in the
- 33:01Speaker 2: first place, because that's a company that's run by human
- 33:05Speaker 2: beings and they're just casually creating this stuff and putting
- 33:08Speaker 2: it out there, and anyone with two brain cells could
- 33:13Speaker 2: recognize the potential harm this stuff can can create. So
- 33:18Speaker 2: and I apologize for ranting about that, but I feel
- 33:21Speaker 2: deeply about this stuff.
- 33:23Speaker 1: I do too, and so like I agree, Please don't
- 33:26Speaker 1: please don't make AI of me doing things that I
- 33:29Speaker 1: haven't done. Just ask me to do things with you,
- 33:31Speaker 1: because that is better for everybody. Right. I am lucky
- 33:36Speaker 1: that anytime I have played with AI and like a, oh,
- 33:40Speaker 1: turn me into this character. AI does not do well
- 33:42Speaker 1: with my face. It's almost like my face has it was.
- 33:46Speaker 1: I was born with one of those faces that confuses AI.
- 33:49Speaker 1: So that's great. This is not a challenge to AI.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Don't recreate my face. But I also just don't like
- 33:56Speaker 1: it being called an actor. Right, It's not an actor.
- 33:58Speaker 1: It has no life experience or emotion to draw from,
- 34:02Speaker 1: you know. Not to get into a debate of whether
- 34:05Speaker 1: AI could ever become cognizant and have emotion. That's a
- 34:09Speaker 1: different thing, you know. So like, don't sign it to
- 34:13Speaker 1: an agency. Agencies are for real people with real life
- 34:16Speaker 1: experiences to give me stories, which is what I prefer.
- 34:20Speaker 1: It's so much there's an honesty there, and there's there's
- 34:25Speaker 1: a spontaneity there that you just don't get with AI.
- 34:28Speaker 1: I saw a TikTok video the other day of a
- 34:30Speaker 1: guy who was like, let me have chat GPT have
- 34:32Speaker 1: a conversation with itself, and within ten seconds it got
- 34:36Speaker 1: stuck in a loop because it's just regurgitating information and
- 34:39Speaker 1: if you don't give it new information, it's like what
- 34:41Speaker 1: do I do?
- 34:42Speaker 2: So, I mean, speaking of stuck in a loop, this
- 34:44Speaker 2: is anecdotal and this is my last thing on this.
- 34:48Speaker 2: This is not generative AI, but it is AI related.
- 34:52Speaker 2: But my partner was telling me about how she went
- 34:55Speaker 2: to a coffee shop to get some coffee, oddly enough,
- 35:00Speaker 2: and it found it impossible to get into the parking
- 35:05Speaker 2: lot because in the parking lot was a driverless WAYMO
- 35:10Speaker 2: car and it was trying to negotiate its way either
- 35:15Speaker 2: into or out of the parking lot. She wasn't sure,
- 35:17Speaker 2: but it was just like pulling in and out of
- 35:20Speaker 2: the same parking spot over and over and over again.
- 35:23Speaker 2: And so later on, like later in the week, she
- 35:27Speaker 2: stopped at that same coffee shop and went in and
- 35:29Speaker 2: started telling to the baristas and said, yeah, how long
- 35:32Speaker 2: was that car out there. It's like, oh, yeah, it
- 35:33Speaker 2: was out there for like another forty five minutes, where
- 35:35Speaker 2: it just it could not negotiate its way out. And
- 35:37Speaker 2: I think about that, and I'm like, not to paint
- 35:40Speaker 2: all AI with the same brush. AI is a huge,
- 35:43Speaker 2: huge term. It doesn't apply to just one thing. It's
- 35:47Speaker 2: lots and lots and lots of different stuff at different
- 35:50Speaker 2: degrees of autonomy. But it's an example of something where
- 35:54Speaker 2: I look at that and I think, we know there
- 35:57Speaker 2: are limitations to this technology. Why is it being pushed
- 36:00Speaker 2: out there into the world so recklessly when in my opinion,
- 36:07Speaker 2: there needs to be a lot more R and D
- 36:11Speaker 2: like actual testing of this tech, like extensive testing before
- 36:18Speaker 2: just releasing it to a world that is going to
- 36:21Speaker 2: have all sorts of different people putting it to all
- 36:23Speaker 2: sorts of different uses, some of which will be bad ones.
- 36:27Speaker 1: Yeah, well we are the test apparently.
- 36:30Speaker 2: But that uh, that was the first part of thirty
- 36:34Speaker 2: seconds or less.
- 36:35Speaker 1: Yes, it has been thirty minutes or less.
- 36:39Speaker 2: Your turn, Okay, I am now wondering whether or not
- 36:43Speaker 2: i'll I'm sure I'll put the music behind the first
- 36:45Speaker 2: one anyway, just because it'll be funny, sad, all right,
- 36:48Speaker 2: it's fine, okay. So, the stage adaptation of the Apple
- 36:51Speaker 2: TV Plus series Smegadoon had a short run at the
- 36:55Speaker 2: Kennedy Center earlier this year, but is now headed to
- 36:58Speaker 2: Broadway at the Nederlanders. The inter previews began on April fourth,
- 37:02Speaker 2: The show's officially opening scheduled for April twentieth, just plays.
- 37:06Speaker 2: It's a limited engagement that will end in September, and
- 37:10Speaker 2: it follows the first season of the show. So that
- 37:12Speaker 2: means that we won't get any Schmacago shenanigans, sadly, but
- 37:16Speaker 2: I hope I get a chance to catch it.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Well, maybe on Broadway we'll even get a third season.
- 37:22Speaker 1: That is, if they have gotten the new actors Equity
- 37:27Speaker 1: contract done for Broadway actors by that time. It is
- 37:31Speaker 1: there is the potential that they will go on strike.
- 37:34Speaker 1: Their current contract, three year contract ended on September twenty eighth,
- 37:38Speaker 1: and they are under negotiations. One of the big ones
- 37:41Speaker 1: they're talking about is healthcare. They would like the union
- 37:44Speaker 1: to put a little bit more towards actors healthcare, and
- 37:46Speaker 1: I think on Broadway that's super important because you're putting
- 37:49Speaker 1: your body through a lot.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Of stress, right, and a lot of those shows are
- 37:54Speaker 2: marketed on specific actors, right, So like, if your show
- 37:59Speaker 2: is dependent upon them, those actors being in them to
- 38:01Speaker 2: help market it, then you need to take care of them.
- 38:04Speaker 2: I know. Thirty second c lass.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Fish all right here, No, no, no, I can't, I cannot
- 38:08Speaker 1: judge you.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Well, there's an upcoming stage adaptation of The Hunger Games
- 38:15Speaker 2: that's coming to the Troubadour Canary War Theater in London
- 38:18Speaker 2: on October twentieth and being John Malkovich's John Malkovich is
- 38:23Speaker 2: being President Snow in it, but he will not be
- 38:26Speaker 2: appearing on stage next to the other actors. His role
- 38:28Speaker 2: will instead appear on screen. So I imagine this means Malcovich
- 38:32Speaker 2: will only have to record his performance once and the
- 38:35Speaker 2: actors on stage will react to pre recorded performance Malviovich Malkovich.
- 38:42Speaker 1: So last week I said that Henry Cavill got hurt
- 38:45Speaker 1: training for Highlander. Well, now despite being hurt, he is
- 38:49Speaker 1: back to training. Collider has pictures of him that show
- 38:56Speaker 1: him training with a big old boot on his leg.
- 38:59Speaker 1: So I'm guessing he tore a muscle or something like that.
- 39:02Speaker 1: That's what it looks like to me.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Mh. Well, Henry Cavill definitely needs to heal up because
- 39:07Speaker 2: word is out he has a new secondary antagonist he'll
- 39:10Speaker 2: be facing off against in Highlander. So not only will
- 39:13Speaker 2: you have to fight off Dave Batista's version of the Kurgan,
- 39:17Speaker 2: he'll also match wits and perhaps blades with Jeremy Irons.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Probably not blades, because Irons is going to play the
- 39:25Speaker 2: leader of a group known as the Watchers, which were
- 39:27Speaker 2: introduced into Highland or television series they watch Immortals.
- 39:34Speaker 1: I'm much more fine with that than I am.
- 39:36Speaker 2: With Russell Crowe playing Ramirez.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, I guess some things you can't get away with.
- 39:48Speaker 2: Well, I do love that in the original Highlander, you
- 39:51Speaker 2: had a Scotsman playing an Egyptian who who spent a
- 39:57Speaker 2: lot of time in Japan only to end up in
- 40:00Speaker 2: Spain and adopting a Spanish persona. This time we've got
- 40:03Speaker 2: an Australian pretending to be et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
- 40:08Speaker 1: So my hope is that that just means that they
- 40:11Speaker 1: really are leaning into the camp and the cultishness of
- 40:14Speaker 1: the original movie. I'm hoping yeah, speaking of cult movie,
- 40:19Speaker 1: I guess it's not really a cult movie cult success.
- 40:23Speaker 1: Kill Bill the Whole Bloody Affair is coming out on
- 40:26Speaker 1: December fifth, and really that means that they've taken Kill
- 40:29Speaker 1: Bill Volume one in Kill Bill Volume two, and they've
- 40:32Speaker 1: smushed them together, taking out the ending cliffhanger ending and
- 40:37Speaker 1: the recap in the second one and just putting it
- 40:39Speaker 1: all together. And it will also include a little animated sequence.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Interesting well. In July two thousand and seven, the Simpsons
- 40:52Speaker 2: movie hit theaters, and we now hear that twenty years later,
- 40:56Speaker 2: on July twenty third, twenty twenty seven, a sequel Simpsons
- 41:00Speaker 2: movie will hit the silver screen. According to Variety, this
- 41:03Speaker 2: will take the spot that previously was earmarked for an
- 41:06Speaker 2: untitled Marvel project. Probably not a bad idea as far
- 41:10Speaker 2: as that goes. No word on what the story for
- 41:12Speaker 2: this new Simpsons movie will be, but we do know
- 41:15Speaker 2: the television series has been renewed for a fortieth season. Yauza,
- 41:20Speaker 2: or as as Homer might say, whoo.
- 41:23Speaker 1: Nope, that was not a good Homer, I take it back. Okay. Next, Halo,
- 41:32Speaker 1: the TV show that had two seasons, is now on Netflix.
- 41:37Speaker 1: It's doing pretty well on Netflix, despite not doing super
- 41:40Speaker 1: well on its previous platform. It's currently I think number
- 41:43Speaker 1: four on Netflix. How many more times can I say Netflix?
- 41:48Speaker 2: John Malcolvic, Yeah, well, I mean good for Halo and goodbye.
- 41:54Speaker 2: Once upon a time we heard that Margot Robbie was
- 41:57Speaker 2: going to direct a more female centric intro in the
- 42:00Speaker 2: Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, while another project, also in
- 42:04Speaker 2: the Pirates world, was in development at the same time.
- 42:07Speaker 2: It has been a while since we've heard about any
- 42:10Speaker 2: of that stuff now. Jerry Bruckheimer says that Robbie is
- 42:13Speaker 2: still involved in Pirates, but it's possible that the script
- 42:17Speaker 2: for her version of the film fell through. Where it
- 42:20Speaker 2: is the next film is going to be a reboot,
- 42:23Speaker 2: and it's possible that Depth will be back as Jack
- 42:26Speaker 2: Sparrow May.
- 42:30Speaker 1: If you're excited about that, that's great. I am not.
- 42:34Speaker 2: I mean, I like The Pirates as an idea. I
- 42:40Speaker 2: like the first movie a lot, and then things fell
- 42:45Speaker 2: off a cliff for me pretty quickly.
- 42:48Speaker 1: I didn't mind the second movie, and I think I
- 42:51Speaker 1: saw the third, but I have not kept up with it.
- 42:54Speaker 2: The only thing I liked in the second movie. It
- 42:56Speaker 2: didn't make any sense and it was totally fan service y,
- 42:59Speaker 2: and I still love did But the thing I liked
- 43:01Speaker 2: about the second movie was the very end where Captain
- 43:04Speaker 2: Barbosa walks down the stairs revealing that he's alive again
- 43:08Speaker 2: and he can eat an apple, And because I just
- 43:11Speaker 2: like Jeffrey Rush so much and I loved his performance
- 43:14Speaker 2: as Barbosa, so seeing him back was great. And then
- 43:17Speaker 2: the third movie. I definitely saw the first the first trilogy,
- 43:22Speaker 2: and I think I've only seen the second and third
- 43:25Speaker 2: movie once all the way through. I've seen the first
- 43:28Speaker 2: one multiple times, and.
- 43:31Speaker 1: So that the second one was it with Davy Jones, correct.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Yes, Davy Jones. Yeah, that was Davy Jones's locker. Yeah,
- 43:39Speaker 2: the third one was at World's End, and that was
- 43:43Speaker 2: the one that begins with like thirty different jack sparrows
- 43:48Speaker 2: lurching around and had the Council of Pirates like I
- 43:51Speaker 2: had a lot of other fan service moments. I didn't
- 43:55Speaker 2: like it very much. And I've tried watching the fourth
- 43:59Speaker 2: and fifth one at different times, and I honestly I
- 44:03Speaker 2: just could even stay with them.
- 44:05Speaker 1: I think I've seen on Stranger Tides. I think that's
- 44:08Speaker 1: the fourth one. I don't know, No, maybe that I don't.
- 44:13Speaker 1: I can't tell. It was the one with the Fountain
- 44:17Speaker 1: of Youth and Penelope Cruise. I did see that one.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the fourth one. The fifth one is the
- 44:21Speaker 2: one that has uh Javier Bardem and I think, m
- 44:27Speaker 2: h because I think the I think the fourth one
- 44:29Speaker 2: has Blackbeard, right, it's got Ian McShane as black Beard.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think just there. It wasn't. The
- 44:37Speaker 1: subsequent ones weren't different enough for me to.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Care there was. Jenny Nicholson did a great video kind
- 44:44Speaker 2: of breaking down the Pirates films and why, in her opinion,
- 44:49Speaker 2: the first film is the only good one, and I
- 44:51Speaker 2: happen to agree with her. I'm not saying that her
- 44:54Speaker 2: opinion is the correct one. I'm just saying she and
- 44:56Speaker 2: I share the same opinion, and her main thing was
- 44:59Speaker 2: Jack Jack Sparrow worked great as a supporting character where
- 45:04Speaker 2: he was there for flavor. And also like no one
- 45:07Speaker 2: knew what Johnny Depp was going to bring to that character, right,
- 45:11Speaker 2: they didn't right the character to be this weird, wacky
- 45:16Speaker 2: kind of rock star sort of character. That's what Depp
- 45:19Speaker 2: brought to the part. But the problem is that once
- 45:22Speaker 2: he established who that character was, the writers began to
- 45:27Speaker 2: write the character as that and that's where it started
- 45:30Speaker 2: to go over the top and too much and felt indulgent.
- 45:35Speaker 2: And also they essentially made Jack Sparrow the protagonist. And
- 45:41Speaker 2: Jack Sparrow, I feel is better as a supporting character
- 45:44Speaker 2: because he ironically can affect the storyline much more effectively
- 45:50Speaker 2: as a supporting character than as a protagonist.
- 45:53Speaker 1: He's not Deadpool people.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel the same way she does. And
- 45:58Speaker 2: again I'm not saying that her opinion, in my opinion,
- 46:00Speaker 2: are the right ones, just that a lot of her
- 46:03Speaker 2: arguments I found myself agreeing with, even though I had
- 46:06Speaker 2: not necessarily articulated them that way.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Myself gotcha, Well, that is our thirty seconds or less
- 46:13Speaker 1: a could you tell sorry, half a minute or more.
- 46:20Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about some stuff that we saw
- 46:23Speaker 2: that doesn't really fit our lineup. We've just got three
- 46:27Speaker 2: pieces this week in that section, which is that's nice.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Sometimes that's the longest segment of the entire show.
- 46:34Speaker 1: No, it's a reasonably lengthd lineup. We are just extra
- 46:40Speaker 1: long winded this week.
- 46:41Speaker 2: That's true. So first up, we have a British TV
- 46:45Speaker 2: series coming out on Apple TV Plus titled Down Cemetery Road,
- 46:50Speaker 2: and it stars Emma Thompson as a private investigator.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw this trailer on you Like. It came
- 46:57Speaker 1: up in my YouTube feed and I was like whatever,
- 47:00Speaker 1: and I'm glad you put it in because I watched
- 47:03Speaker 1: this trailer and it's not Benoile LeBlanc levels of Zany,
- 47:09Speaker 1: but it genuinely made me laugh out loud at points,
- 47:13Speaker 1: like it looks like a really fun mystery.
- 47:16Speaker 2: Yeah. I wrote that it's a detective story that kind
- 47:19Speaker 2: of has a hard edge to it but still has
- 47:21Speaker 2: a sense of humor.
- 47:23Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's not like Killing Eve level.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Dark, but it's not as silly as one of the
- 47:31Speaker 2: Ryan Johnson Knives Out movies.
- 47:33Speaker 1: As you say, yeah, yeah, it just it feels like
- 47:36Speaker 1: it would be a good watch, like a well balanced watch.
- 47:40Speaker 1: I mean, I can't fully tell from the trailer, but that's.
- 47:44Speaker 2: What I know from it, and it comes out on
- 47:47Speaker 2: Apple TV Plus on October twenty ninth. Also, I should
- 47:50Speaker 2: mention this is based off a novel, so this is
- 47:53Speaker 2: a series that is based off a book, so it's
- 47:59Speaker 2: not a whole original idea. But yeah, I thought the
- 48:03Speaker 2: trailer looked pretty intriguing.
- 48:07Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, there's a lot of BBC stuff
- 48:11Speaker 1: that I might want to watch, yeah, or British esque Yeah.
- 48:16Speaker 2: Yeah. Less intriguing to me is an action film called
- 48:22Speaker 2: Exit Protocol that stars Dolph Lundgren and Michael Jai White
- 48:28Speaker 2: as well as some other folks. But I wrote down
- 48:31Speaker 2: it's one of those assassins targeting other assassins movies.
- 48:36Speaker 1: It's spy versus spy plus one.
- 48:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I said. I also wrote it looks like Bullet
- 48:43Speaker 2: Train but less fun or expendables but probably less lame,
- 48:48Speaker 2: or John Wick but less good or.
- 48:52Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like Dolph Lunggren had a
- 48:54Speaker 1: daughter in there, like fou Bar, but twins but triplets.
- 49:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it's comes out October twenty eighth. I don't really
- 49:05Speaker 2: have anything more to say about it, Like it's it's
- 49:08Speaker 2: assassins being hired to target other Like it's one of
- 49:11Speaker 2: those where it's like this one assassin is retired, but
- 49:15Speaker 2: they are identified as being potentially dangerous, probably because of
- 49:19Speaker 2: something this guy knows, and so other assassins are hired
- 49:22Speaker 2: to take him out and the ultimately universe, yeah, because
- 49:26Speaker 2: he's still Flunderin. He also fought Rocky but he didn't win,
- 49:30Speaker 2: so uh but yeah, maybe maybe it looks to me
- 49:34Speaker 2: like they all team up to fight against the government. That's,
- 49:38Speaker 2: you know, pitting them against each other otherwise or something.
- 49:41Speaker 2: It's hard to say, but I can't care enough to
- 49:44Speaker 2: find out.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, I really just wanted to that entire little
- 49:50Speaker 1: bit to be us spoofing on names, but you had
- 49:52Speaker 1: so many more than me, and much better. The last
- 49:55Speaker 1: one we have is the thing with feathers. I'm so
- 49:57Speaker 1: sorry I said down Some Cherry Road was BBC because
- 50:00Speaker 1: as example TV, but british Ish, so this is also
- 50:04Speaker 1: this is not british Ish, but it's got a Britishish actor.
- 50:07Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, Penndic cover batches English. Yes, I don't know.
- 50:13Speaker 1: I was trying to connect my thoughts. That's fruitless, that's
- 50:16Speaker 1: a fruitless labor. Yeah, the Thing with Feathers looks like
- 50:22Speaker 1: it's taking a fanciful, vaguely fanciful look at loss in
- 50:30Speaker 1: mental health.
- 50:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a story that is largely treating with the
- 50:38Speaker 2: concept of grief, which has been a big thing in
- 50:43Speaker 2: recent years. Like there's been so many movies and shows
- 50:47Speaker 2: that have been dealing on the concept of grief, which
- 50:50Speaker 2: probably is a reflection of the world around us, like
- 50:55Speaker 2: often art is obviously a reflection of what's going on
- 50:58Speaker 2: in the world. So not for me to pontificate about
- 51:02Speaker 2: why we are having so many different stories that are
- 51:05Speaker 2: centered around the concept of grief, but this is definitely
- 51:08Speaker 2: one of them. It is based off a novel. It's
- 51:13Speaker 2: also one of those movies where the characters aren't given names,
- 51:17Speaker 2: like Benedic Cumberbatch's character is named Dad and his two
- 51:21Speaker 2: sons are Boy one and Boy two. Like we're seeing
- 51:25Speaker 2: a lot of that too recently, where it's a movie
- 51:28Speaker 2: where characters, like, the characters aren't given names, you're given
- 51:31Speaker 2: the idea that they're supposed to be kind of standing
- 51:35Speaker 2: in for more of a concept or a type like
- 51:39Speaker 2: an archetype. I'm getting a little tired of both of
- 51:43Speaker 2: these tropes. Just this looks good. I don't mean to
- 51:46Speaker 2: say this doesn't look good. This looks good. It looks
- 51:49Speaker 2: like it's very well made. It looks like it's extremely emotional.
- 51:52Speaker 2: But I personally am getting tired of both the trope
- 51:56Speaker 2: of let's not give any of our characters names instead,
- 52:00Speaker 2: just give them a descriptor, and let's make this all
- 52:04Speaker 2: about grief. I'm getting tired of both of those things.
- 52:08Speaker 1: I can't understand that. You know, watching movies about grief
- 52:11Speaker 1: can be good, but it also takes, like it's it takes,
- 52:14Speaker 1: it's emotionally taxing. The name thing, well, yeah, the name
- 52:19Speaker 1: thing I feel like is just the inner improver and
- 52:24Speaker 1: me box it like that's the first thing you do,
- 52:27Speaker 1: is you give somebody a name, but it's mine. The
- 52:32Speaker 1: reviews say that it's heartwarming, So my hope is that
- 52:34Speaker 1: this ends up being like a a positive, uplifting movie
- 52:40Speaker 1: by the end of it.
- 52:42Speaker 2: Sure again, like I'm sure it is. It's not. It's
- 52:48Speaker 2: not this movie's fault that I've just been overwhelmed with
- 52:53Speaker 2: projects that are ultimately about grief like I you go
- 52:57Speaker 2: back to WandaVision from years ago. You know, WandaVision ultimately
- 53:02Speaker 2: love yes, and WandaVision ultimately ends up being all about
- 53:06Speaker 2: processing grief. Yeah, and and ultimately Wanda's failure to do that.
- 53:14Speaker 2: But like, since then, I just feel like there's been
- 53:18Speaker 2: eli Oh. The movie Elle Oh is largely about grief.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Like spoilers, No, I'm kidding.
- 53:25Speaker 2: It opens up. It opens up with you seeing this
- 53:27Speaker 2: kid being sad because his parents are dead.
- 53:31Speaker 1: Okay, no, I haven't seen it, but I was joking,
- 53:34Speaker 1: just just to give people an overview, a little bit
- 53:37Speaker 1: better idea of what this movie is, at least from
- 53:40Speaker 1: the trailer. So Benedet Cumberbatch is a dad with you kids.
- 53:44Speaker 1: I think their mom is dead and he's dealing with
- 53:46Speaker 1: that and he ends up. I don't know if he's created,
- 53:49Speaker 1: created it in his mind, or for it is actually
- 53:52Speaker 1: a thing that is happening. They make it seem like
- 53:53Speaker 1: he's created in this mind, like he's connected with ravens,
- 53:56Speaker 1: and so there's this giant raven creature that's like, I'm
- 53:58Speaker 1: not leaving you. I'm your grief. I'm gonna help you
- 54:00Speaker 1: through it, which is why it's called the Thing with feathers,
- 54:05Speaker 1: Which that's interesting, Like they never show a super clear
- 54:08Speaker 1: picture of the raven and hole in the trailer, and
- 54:11Speaker 1: I think that is an interesting artistic choice, which I
- 54:15Speaker 1: very much like.
- 54:16Speaker 2: Well, I definitely think it's a good choice for a trailer.
- 54:18Speaker 2: Whether or not the movie does it, I don't know.
- 54:20Speaker 2: But if the movie does reveal the whole Crow creature,
- 54:26Speaker 2: it would have been a crime to show that in
- 54:28Speaker 2: the trailer.
- 54:30Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean I did, legit what. I
- 54:32Speaker 1: put this trailer on watching TV with my husband because well,
- 54:37Speaker 1: we'll put on YouTube, and I was like, is this
- 54:39Speaker 1: the new Crow movie?
- 54:42Speaker 2: No, you would have known, because it would have been
- 54:44Speaker 2: way worse, and there would have been a lot of
- 54:47Speaker 2: like like like heavy metal music that you didn't recognize
- 54:52Speaker 2: playing in the background.
- 54:53Speaker 1: Fair enough, that's it for things that don't fit. Let's
- 54:57Speaker 1: let's go to something that makes Jonathan happy.
- 54:59Speaker 2: Yeah, John boys, horror Hutch. Here we are, come on
- 55:03Speaker 2: into my horror Hutch. Y'all, we're gonna we're gonna talk
- 55:06Speaker 2: about some horror. Before I began, thank you, Yes, I
- 55:10Speaker 2: gotta get some WD forty for that sucker, uh Ariel
- 55:14Speaker 2: Before we get started. Did you watch trailers for any
- 55:17Speaker 2: of the three? Or should I just blast through these?
- 55:21Speaker 1: I did not. I did not watch trailers. No, Like
- 55:24Speaker 1: I watched some scary trailers, and I was like, I'll
- 55:27Speaker 1: let you pick which ones you want to put in.
- 55:28Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair.
- 55:30Speaker 1: I watched the trailer for a Hell House. Don't ask
- 55:32Speaker 1: me why I don't want to watch that movie. I don't.
- 55:36Speaker 2: That's the series I actually really enjoy, even the bad ones.
- 55:39Speaker 2: I like of that.
- 55:40Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't put it in.
- 55:43Speaker 2: Well, because we talked about it in a previous episode,
- 55:45Speaker 2: So it may be that there's a new trailer out,
- 55:47Speaker 2: but we talked about an older one. Uh, and I
- 55:50Speaker 2: just didn't come across it. But what I did see
- 55:52Speaker 2: was I saw a trailer for VHS Halloween. So if
- 55:56Speaker 2: you are somehow unfamiliar with the VHS horror franchise, it's
- 56:00Speaker 2: been around for a while. Actually, someone we know was
- 56:04Speaker 2: in one of them. Actually a couple people I know
- 56:07Speaker 2: were in some of them. But the VHS series, it's
- 56:10Speaker 2: an anthology horror story franchise, and typically the way the
- 56:17Speaker 2: films work is you've got a framing device story that
- 56:20Speaker 2: usually involves people coming across a bunch of VHS tapes
- 56:23Speaker 2: and then they watch them, and each VHS tape has
- 56:25Speaker 2: a different horror film in it. So this one, VHS
- 56:31Speaker 2: Halloween has a framing device, plus five distinct stories. And
- 56:38Speaker 2: all the VHS movies vary in quality. Some of them
- 56:42Speaker 2: very like some of them you just don't get any
- 56:45Speaker 2: really good entries. But some of them are like, oh,
- 56:47Speaker 2: like two of these five were pretty darn good, or
- 56:51Speaker 2: maybe even one of these was really good. But I
- 56:54Speaker 2: don't think I've ever seen one where they all knocked
- 56:56Speaker 2: it out of the park. This one is now a vail.
- 57:00Speaker 2: It's on Shutter, came out today as we record this.
- 57:04Speaker 2: We're recording this on October third. I hope to have
- 57:08Speaker 2: it out shortly thereafter, but I have sometimes been slow
- 57:12Speaker 2: to get these edited and published. But yeah, it's out
- 57:14Speaker 2: now on Shutter if you have that. Also, I will
- 57:17Speaker 2: say Rick Baker, the legendary visual effects like makeup effects
- 57:23Speaker 2: and creature effects guy. He is in this as he
- 57:28Speaker 2: plays a character in one of the segments. Next up
- 57:32Speaker 2: we have we Bury the Dead, which is a zombie movie.
- 57:36Speaker 2: The most notable thing about it is it starring Daisy Ridley,
- 57:41Speaker 2: she was ray in the Star Wars sequels, you know, seven,
- 57:44Speaker 2: eight nine, And in this movie, the dead begin to animate.
- 57:51Speaker 2: And originally, you know, first off, they are slow and docile,
- 57:56Speaker 2: so the government is essentially claiming that these animated dead
- 58:01Speaker 2: are harmless, they poise no threat. But Daisy Ridley's character
- 58:08Speaker 2: is looking for her missing husband, and as she is
- 58:10Speaker 2: searching for him, she discovers that as time goes on,
- 58:15Speaker 2: the dead get less docile. They become a bit more feisty.
- 58:18Speaker 2: And by the way, here's a big surprise. This movie
- 58:22Speaker 2: deals with the concept of grief an anyway, It's coming
- 58:28Speaker 2: out in theaters here in the United States on January second,
- 58:32Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. And then the third one that I
- 58:34Speaker 2: have on my list is called Psycho Killer Kescasse. It's
- 58:39Speaker 2: a story that follows a police officer who is seeking
- 58:42Speaker 2: out the murderer who brutally killed her husband, who is
- 58:46Speaker 2: a state patrolman. Turns out this murderer is a serial killer.
- 58:50Speaker 2: And I'm getting some vibes from Seven from this trailer,
- 58:54Speaker 2: like it's feeling very similar to the film Seven. The
- 58:58Speaker 2: marketing material is extremely quick to point out that two
- 59:01Speaker 2: of the producers on this film also were producers on
- 59:05Speaker 2: Weapons and Barbarian, But I would like to remind you
- 59:08Speaker 2: producers are money people, they are not creatives. Sometimes they
- 59:12Speaker 2: can interfere with creatives, but just because the producer is
- 59:15Speaker 2: involved with multiple projects doesn't mean that they're that similar.
- 59:19Speaker 2: Malcolm McDowell plays a supporting character in this and that's
- 59:22Speaker 2: kind of interesting. It comes out February twentieth, twenty twenty six,
- 59:27Speaker 2: and so since we're talking about a storyline where a
- 59:31Speaker 2: cop is seeking out her husband's killer, my guess is
- 59:35Speaker 2: this movie's gonna deal with grief and that's it. That's
- 59:40Speaker 2: it for me. From John Boys Horror Hutch.
- 59:44Speaker 1: From John Boys Horror Hutch, let me close that door
- 59:46Speaker 1: for you.
- 59:49Speaker 2: Yeah, that was worse. Didn't get the WD fourty yet?
- 59:53Speaker 1: No you can't because it is not a scary Hutch.
- 59:57Speaker 2: No, No, that's that's true. Yeah. Well, well, moving on
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: to shows that are actually or films that are actually
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: in our lineup. First up, we got a new trailer
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: for Guermo del Toro's Frankenstein and Ariel saw this one
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: immediately sent it to me. So since you were excited
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: by this, why don't you talk a little bit about
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: what goes into this trailer.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: Yeah, so like you're like, but you already talked about
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: the deser in the official trailer Ariel and Jonathan, why
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: would you put another one in? You say, you try
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: not to do that, and that is right. However, the
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: previous trailer for this movie is told narratively from the
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: viewpoint of Victor Frankenstein. The new trailer is told narratively
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: from the viewpoint of the Monster, and I think that
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: that is really cool. So we get one trailer from
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: each side of the story. I mean, I was already
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: excited about this movie because it looks maybe a little
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: bit closer to the book than some other iterations we've had,
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: But I really like that choice.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: Yeah. I also thought it was interesting that the Monster
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: implies at least that he can access memories belonging to
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: multiple people because he himself is made up of the
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: body parts of multiple people.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't look like it's going to be an
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: exact the story because of that, And it also looks
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: like maybe there is a love interest.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: For him possibly. Tell I'm not gonna go too deeply
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: into that because then it gets me into the stage
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: adaptation of Frankenstein that Benedict Cumberbatch was in I was
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: told not to watch that, so you should not watch that.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: It's very upsetting in parts. But yeah, this looks I mean,
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: it looks really lush and really like. The horror elements
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: are really dialed up. It's Kiermo del Toro. You would
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: expect nothing less. It comes out in limited release on
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: October seventeenth, but it will premiere on Netflix on November seventh.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: If you recall, well, this was a movie that originally
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: was just going to go straight to Netflix, and then
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: people started to demand that Netflix do a theatrical release
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: for it, and now that's happening. So my response to
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: all of you demanders out there is you better go
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: out and see this movie, because if you're gonna ask
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: for it to happen, you gotta follow through. Don't make
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: this be another Snakes on a Plane people.
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did go see Snakes on a Plane
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: in the theater.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: And then you do the song at karaoke.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: This song is the best part of the movie.
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: That There is no argument here.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: I did not enjoy that movie, but I really like
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: the Snakes on a Plane song from Cobra Starship. Yeah,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: the next thing we have. Is this I guess could
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: have gone into Jonathan's Horror hutchcnically, but we didn't put
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: it there. It is a trailer for R. El Stein's
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: Pumpkin Head.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't put this in my horror hutch because
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: you know, Ralstein primarily rights for younger readers, like young adults,
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: and I like my horror hutch to be for big
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: boy horror movies. And I'm being very facetious, so please
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: don't get on to be about saying big boy there.
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't put there because I thought of
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: this more as like a gateway horror movie. I think
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: of certain movies being kind of geared toward like teenage viewers,
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: maybe somewhere in that realm, and how those can be
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: kind of an entry point for horror for certain folks.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: So when I was a kid, the movies that kind
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: of got me into horror were stuff like Gremlins and
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: The gate like that kind of thing, And there are
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: every few years we get other movies that kind of
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: fall into that. This feels like that to me. I
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: have never read any R. L. Stein books. I'm not
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: a Stein officionado, but this trailer looked kind of interesting,
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: like it. It has some very tropy bits in it,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: but it still looked it still looked like it's done
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: fairly well, especially for a to Be original because this
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: is just this is You can watch it for free
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: on to.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: Be Yeah, honestly, it looked kind of actually scary to me.
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it looks pretty intense for something that's geared
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: toward younger. Like when I say younger, I am talking
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: like maybe thirteen, fourteen years old, somewhere in that range.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, it does look like it's a really
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: good quality for a two B movie for sure.
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: So yeah, the story is pretty simple. Family goes to
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: this small town like has like a harvest festival type thing.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: They noticed that some of the towns people are acting
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: a little odd. They appear to be worshiping a scarecrow figure,
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: very pagan issue, and that there's a grouchy old man
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: who jealously guards a disgusting looking pumpkin. And then this
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: jerkface kid. It's clearly here's another trope. It's the kid
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: who's clearly dealing with something, and the way this kid
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: deals with it is by acting out like he's he's
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: a bad He acts out like a bad kid. He's
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: probably not ultimately a bad kid, because that's the way
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: these movies work out, but that he acts like a
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: bad kid because of something. You know, it probably has
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: something to do with an absent father figure, because we
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: don't see a dad in this bit, and these movies
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: stories tend to be pretty heavy handed with that stuff.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: But the kid ends up stealing the pumpkin and thus
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: precipitates the rest of the action. You find out it's
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: very Twilight Zone ish in this little town. Not really
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: my Bag, but it does come out October seventeenth. It's
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: on two B, so you can watch it for free
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: once it's out.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Speaking of not Someone's Bag, we got a season two
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: for trailer for Has Been Hotel, which I tried season one.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: I've got a lot of friends who really love it,
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: but it just the humor did not hit for me.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: Neither the humor, nor the music, nor the characters work
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: for me. And you know, like the things that bother
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: Ariel are not the same things that bother me. Like
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: we are two different people with two different sensibilities, but
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: in this case we both agree. Like, I don't see
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: what the I honestly could not understand what the hype
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: was for this series. I guess some people just really
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: they like the music style and they like the art style,
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: and maybe they just like obnoxious characters who are terrible
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: to each other. But for me, I was just like,
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: none of this is hitting.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was. It was raunchy humor, but it
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: wasn't clever to me. Yeah, it was just put in
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: and oh yeah, it just didn't hit for me. The
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: original appeal for me was one I love musical television,
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: like Gallivant, like Schmigadoons, so I was excited for something
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: else along those lines. And they were using Broadway singers
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: in the show, so I loved that. Stephanie Beatriz is
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: in it. She's the voice of I don't know if
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: she's done Broadway, but she certainly has done musical movies.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: She was the main character in Enconto. Ah Beatlejuice is
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: in it. H thank you. Yes. I was like Adam Leavin, no,
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: that is not correct. But there's a whole bunch of
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: Broadway singers in it, so that was very exciting to me.
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: And then the execution just I have friends who will
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: fight me tooth and nail on this, but they're like,
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: but it's so good and it does this, and it
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: does this, and it does this. I'm like, that's all fine,
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: I don't enjoy the journey.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it may be the kind of story that
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: appeals to people who have just very different life experience
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: than the two of us have. Right, So, for example,
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: you know, I don't identify as queer, but I know
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: lots of my friends who do have elements of this
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: show that they really connect to, and that's just a
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: point of view. I don't. I have a lot of
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: empathy for them, but I don't have that life experience.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: So it's very possible that that's like, it's just literally
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: that it's not for us, which is fine, that's yeah,
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: you know, and it's fine for people to like it.
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: It just totally didn't work for either of us for
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: different reasons, or probably a lot of the same reasons. Anyway.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: Season two is coming out October twenty ninth on Amazon Prime.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: So if you are someone who really digs has been Hotel,
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: first of all, that's awesome. I love what you love.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Second of all, you got more of it coming by
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: the end of this month.
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will say, like, I also don't identify
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: as queer, but I do enjoy stories, those stories that
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: are told. Again, it was the x Secution, it was.
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it didn't work for me either, but yeah again, anyhow,
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: we both know people who just absolutely love it, and
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: yes we don't. We don't let them into our lives anymore.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: We've shut them out.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: We love those people. Shoot, we love those people.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: I need to make some calls.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: What have you been doing? Yes you should.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: Let's just get through the rest of the show.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh so tailor kid Boo, my tongue got
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: twisted trying to talk about the next trailer, which is
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: for Twisted Wonderland. It wasn't on purpose, but it was
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: kiss Met I guess.
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did not know this before I started
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: looking into it. But this is based off a turn
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: based game, uh that that has been out for a while,
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: And so this is an anime series that is set
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: in a world that has a magic school that it
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: seems to be incredibly similar to a certain magic school
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: about you know, pig Boils and I'm sorry Hogwarts. Anyway,
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: this particular magic school has seven distinct houses, each of
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: which is centered around a classic Disney villain. So those
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: villains include the Queen of Hearts, who is the central
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: figure for the first bit of the series, the evil
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: Queen from Snow White, Ja'afar, scar Ursula, Maleficent, and Hades.
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: Yeah it, so, I said, as soon as because you
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: put this trailer on here, as soon as I saw it,
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: I sent it to our mutual friend Jen because she
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: also loves Disney greatly and also likes a lot of
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: like those anime shows that have a similar vibe. And
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: what I said, I was like, I sent this to
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: you because it reminded me of Disney's Descendants, which is
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: a Disney Plus TV show about the children of famous villains,
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: meets the Orian host Club, which is an anime about
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: and a manga about a private school. And she was like,
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: that is exactly what I thought to it. I'm so excited.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: So yes, not necessarily new ground anywhere, but it could
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: be a lot of fun.
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: Yeah, So this comes out in October twenty ninth, which
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: is a pretty crowded date at this point with all
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: the stuff we've been talking about. But yeah, it definitely
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: looks very stylized. Didn't look like something that I'm going
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: to really get into, but I can totally see how
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: people would be jazzed about it. So yeah, check out
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: the trailer if you're curious. We also got a full
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: trailer for Zootopia too. I don't really have anything to
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: say about this one though, other than to say it
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: just shows how, you know, Nick and Judy are investigating
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: pursuing an investigation while essentially against orders.
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It looked heartwarming, it looked fun.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: It made me laugh. There were little bits in it
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: that made me laugh. I wasn't gonna go see Zootopia too,
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: but I think I am going to go see Zouotopia too.
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: I enjoyed the first one well enough. I mean, it's
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: got some elements in it that I find irritating, but overall,
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: I enjoyed the movie. This one comes out November twenty sixth,
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: so I'll probably see this one too.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: Cool. What about Charlotte's Web?
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: All right? So this is a three episode mini series
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: that's coming to HBO Max and it comes out of
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Sesame Workshop. I'm a sucker for the nineteen seventy three
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: animated film So Good. I love it.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: It was so good. I don't think I'd ever watch
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: it again, but I loved it.
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: Templeton the rat is fantastic in that one. I think
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: it's Paul Lynd. It does the voice for him. But
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: it's it's such a it's such a good adaptation. This
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: looks like it's very sweet. It looks the animation style
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: is very cute. The voice cast has some great folks
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: in it, like Amy Adams, Randall, Park Rosario Dawson, Elijah Wood,
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: Gene Smart. So, you know, really interesting and strong voice cast.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: But I I'm cool with the nineteen seventy three version.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: That's that's no aspersions to this one. It looks like
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: it's really well done. I just I'm like, well, I
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: already have a really good adaptation.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: Yeah, but it.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: Looks it looks like it's it's made with a lot
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: of love, and it's already available. It's available now on
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: HBO Max.
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: You know, I think I feel the same way as you.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: I love that some of the classics that I enjoyed
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: growing up. Even though I don't like spiders now and
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: I don't like animal stories, Charlotte's Web does hold a
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: a warm place in my heart, and specifically Templeton, like,
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: anytime I hear a voice like Paul Lin's, I amase
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: it even if it's not him, I immediately think of
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: Templeton from Charlotte's Web, right, But you're right this it
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: is also a cartoon, So the original cartoon I think
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: holds up well enough that it didn't need to be remade.
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: But maybe it's just because it's a new release. I
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: don't mind it. It looks really cute.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I can understand like some kids
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: kind of are reluctant to watch things that are older
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: just because it doesn't follow the same kind of art
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: style and format that they're accustomed to, which I guess,
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: you know that's legitimate. It's not like I don't seek
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: out a lot of stuff from say the fifties and sixties,
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not going to go watch classic westerns,
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: but I do like postmodern westerns, So I get it.
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: Like i've I think it's just a natural way. So
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: I understand the need to do new adaptations to introduce
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: people to works that otherwise they might not bother consuming,
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: whether it's the original novel or the nineteen seventy three
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: adaptation or whatever. So yeah, no objections here. But again,
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: I feel like my version's always going to It's kind
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: of like Willy Wonka. My version is always going to
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: be the seventies one.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. Last thing we have is Reading Rainbow.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: It is coming back, yes, but not with LeVar Burton.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: No, this time it is with.
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: Oh my god, I had his name, Michael Threats.
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: Michael Threats, who is a librarian who is famous on
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: TikTok and does a lot of literacy advocacy and mental
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: health advocacy, and so he will be hosting this new show.
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: The trailer for it. NBC News posted a trailer for
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: it that was also shared I believe on Instagram. It
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: looks absolutely darling. I am super into this and I
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: wish I had kids so I had a better excuse.
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: To watch it. Yeah, it's It premieres on October fourth
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: on YouTube, so by the time you hear the show,
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: it'll either be almost out or totally out. So yeah,
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: it's it's exciting to see it come back. LeVar Burton
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: tried to bring back Reading Rainbow several years ago, but
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: ran into some copyright dispute issues with the the PBS
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: station that first essentially launched Reading Rainbow, so they didn't
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: really get as far as even though there was a
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: huge crowdfunding support for it, it didn't get to take off.
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: This is a fully you know, licensed piece of work
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: that's coming out. It's kind of sad LeVar Burton is
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: not a part of it. I hope that it's going
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: on with his blessing, but at the same time, Threetz is,
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: you know, it's impossible to argue threats. Is very much
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: a strong advocate for reading and for mental health. Like,
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: even though I'm not on social I've seen some of
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: his stuff and I've always been impressed with how he
- 1:17:24Speaker 2: presents himself and how frank and honest he is with
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: his own mental health challenges. So I think it'll be
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: I think it'll be a really valuable piece of educational
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: entertainment out there, And like Sesame Street, it's one of
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: those things I think has a needed place out there
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: in the world.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: I agree. I agree he's going to have celebrity guests
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: and readers for books, which is cool. He is not
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: as polished as LeVar Burton, Like he's not an actor, right,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: so his delivery is not as polished as bar Burdens
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: was from what I have seen this far, but it
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: is very like our honest and charming so I like it.
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: Well, that's it. That's that's our lineup this week. So no,
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: we're not doing another two hour plus episode today.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: No. No, I'm actually surprised it's so short because when
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: we were watching it originally, I was like, oh, this
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: is going to be forever when.
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: I was watching o'clock. Yeah, that's because our first thirty
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: seconds are less. Went on for ten minutes. But I'm sorry, no,
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: it's okay.
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: I'll go put myself in the long winded corner. Okay, Okay, Yeah,
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: So thank you all for listening. Thank you, thank you
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: all for being awesome and nerdy, and Jonathan if they
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: want to reach out about the things that we've talked about,
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: how did they do that to talk to you?
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: Okay? So I've decided that what I'm doing is I'm
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- 1:19:07Speaker 2: have to do is find the website where the AI
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: Jonathan is hosting and ask your question. I do recommend
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- 1:19:23Speaker 2: saying some truly terrible things. So if you want to
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- 1:19:43Speaker 2: enjoys kicking puppies and spitting on old people. So I
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- 1:19:51Speaker 2: me a question, you get on it and find that
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