Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 243: McKay & Mrs. Miller (SGA 3.08)
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- 0:25Get in Agate episode two hundred and forty four talking Stargate Atlantis. This week,
- 0:30my name is Mitch, joining me once again, Maddie, I'm eating
- 0:34a lolly. Hey, Prarie, that's okay, keep it. This is
- 0:38not the only time his mouth's been ford since we've been in here in this
- 0:40podcast. You never know, Hey, Craig, Hey, I'm back.
- 0:44Hey. Yeah, two times at a row. You've gotta like punch that
- 0:48card, right, because you know when you're every fifth one? Yeah,
- 0:51right, yeah, you get I don't know what you're going to get.
- 0:53We'll give you, throw you some nach or something. Angel I think that's
- 0:57ten, Okay, I thought that's for the drive home. Well, only
- 1:00when you get ten, you gotta punch you punch your card enough. How
- 1:03the episodes have I done? Now? This would probably be my tenth episode.
- 1:07See, he's angling for a bloody hand job, these freaking army guys.
- 1:11No ten in a row, you gotta do ten in a row.
- 1:14Ten in a row. Yeah, it's gonna be ten in a row.
- 1:15Okay. That's why I was following Mitchenee in the lift on the way out,
- 1:19because we've always geen them way more than ten in a row. Well,
- 1:22we cheat because we also go and do get into gig stuff together.
- 1:25Yeah, so like you know, just to like speed up the process and
- 1:29Maddie and I, well, we did ten episodes in a row of true,
- 1:33that's true. True. We didn't establish the hand job rule for that
- 1:34podcast. Do we have to establish it? It's just implied. Really okay,
- 1:38all right, Brendan's not here again this week, but just the empty
- 1:46chick. I mean the fact that we're less than two minutes in and there's
- 1:49already this much talk about what we've spoken about. I mean, Jesus Christ.
- 1:53Someone messaged me actually from that listens to the podcast. I can't remember
- 1:57what it was. It was a while ago, and they were like,
- 2:00there are too many dick jokes when you're on Craig. I'm like, what,
- 2:02the limit does not exist? I'm like, I'm not the one that
- 2:07generally does all the dick jokes. The difference is is you're the one Yours
- 2:12are not like tame enough that they get left in whereas Brendan's end up on
- 2:15the cutting room floor because they are so filthy that Mitch is like, I
- 2:21can't, I can't let that one go out. I remember going to either
- 2:23you've either got to go less or you've gotta go harder. Okay, pun
- 2:27intender, and then you know the ratio will even out, all right,
- 2:30McKay and missus Miller. The one that I have been hearing about for quite
- 2:34some time. It's a pretty simple synopsis in front of me, because I
- 2:38don't have my sitting in front of me, even though I do think,
- 2:42unlike last week, this one is actually my gosh, I could have walked
- 2:46downstairs and got now, but you didn't even have to walk down the stairs.
- 2:49Elbows working still sixty forty clag over here. You know, I'm go
- 2:54wear my clag t shirt at some point. So Rodney's sister is brought to
- 2:59Atlantis to make use of one of his theories that is not just according to
- 3:04IMDb. Directed by Martin Wood. If you don't mind this one, yeah,
- 3:08it's Martin Squared. Writer Martin Guiro, director Martin. Would you need
- 3:13one Martin to cancel the other one out? Yeah? You know, Oh,
- 3:15trust me, mate, we'll get there. Okay, hang on,
- 3:17let me just pull out the audio else and have a look at Maddy.
- 3:22He's got his store for us. Oh my goodness, there is seven pieces
- 3:27of audio. I guess we can just keep quiet then not required this week.
- 3:32Yeah, this was an interesting one. Is the first time Atlantis watcher
- 3:37myself. The way that it starts, and it's just the cold open in
- 3:43the in the sister's house, right, Carter's house. Actually that was Carter's
- 3:46house from yeah, when all was talking her back with a weird, weirdly
- 3:52placed fridge, microwave, microwave adult all them, yeah, all of the
- 3:58Okay, so I don't have the same interior, but it was the same
- 4:00exterior shot, right, Yeah, I mean, who knows that she might
- 4:04have picked there might have been a real estate sort of exchange between seasons,
- 4:08because in universe, Carter lives in Colorado, and and and Genie lives in
- 4:15Canada. Oh right, she's Canadian, that's what. When when is it
- 4:20Carter shows up at the front door, She's got like two Canadian officials,
- 4:25two mounties due south because because obviously in Canada she's got no no authority,
- 4:31so they've got to be there to like give her authority. Yeah, but
- 4:36in a real country, it's the superior of the two North Americas. Yeah,
- 4:42look, I've got to be the Canadian blood in me. I'm not
- 4:44gonna lie has some America. He's still saying that, and I'm over here
- 4:51as Australian staying neutral. You know, we're all a bunch of white guys,
- 4:57so trace it back far enough. And another gay with a pud that's
- 5:00just sorry. Have you that series that guy on in I've only seen me
- 5:04Instagram. Sure it's in TikTok, but that every dude with on Facebook right,
- 5:10Okay, he might see it in about three months? Have you seen
- 5:14that? Did you see it three months ago? Maddie the guy that everything?
- 5:15Because I'm on TikTok like, I'm like, I mean next future weaker
- 5:20Duck and Duck and Duck. Yeah, I should get that bit. It'll
- 5:25make Brendan happy every time you say it on TikTok because I'm like, I
- 5:28guess we'll see it in a couple of weeks, because you are absolutely right.
- 5:30But yeah, that that series that got every dude with a podcast out?
- 5:32Can I blow your mind right now? And just says I was watching
- 5:35that Cole the other night. Sarah has there in bed and she listens to
- 5:39this guy goes, how do we like, how do we know what the
- 5:42weather's going to be? Like, you know, clearly it's because the weather
- 5:44has happened like that before, something like you know, just dumb ship,
- 5:46you know, like that thinking, you have a think about it. You
- 5:49write that down, write that down. And Sarah's like, what what's that
- 5:54guy talking about? That's why we have experts And I'm like, no,
- 5:56no, he's taking the piss out of like faux experts on on podcast.
- 6:00Don't She's like, oh, once you get that, it's a joke.
- 6:01It's hilarious, but it's almost it's too real. Yeah that you're you laugh
- 6:05at it until about halfway and you're like, oh, I've listened to stuff
- 6:09like this. Yeah. Oh, where we're a bunch of white, thirty
- 6:11year old guys with a podcast. We are so well, we are almost
- 6:15forty year old guys. We have we are, but then we you guys
- 6:18can say that you are old Menah, I'm thirty seven for another two months.
- 6:23Yeah, but you know, then we go, hey, we're going
- 6:26to have a podcast talking about a twenty year old sci fi television show,
- 6:30but then start off the first six minutes of every episode talking about dicks.
- 6:32So we're not we're not subscribed, but you can't put us in a box.
- 6:36Yeah, we're not. You can't put those dicks in a box.
- 6:41I wish that song to play right now. One of the ones that the
- 6:45one that attacked me personally was the moment was just like, why does why
- 6:48does every every white guy instead of getting therapy just start a podcast instead?
- 6:54And then replies, which was great, was the same women in the same
- 6:58reason instead of women getting a job an only fan, it's a free for
- 7:03all. Everyone's a victim. Now we are a douchey white guy podcast.
- 7:13Anyway, So Jeannie is his real life sister. Yes, yeah, So
- 7:19when I saw her name and the credits kill it and I'm like, hmmm,
- 7:26whife or sister wife or sister life? I told you last week,
- 7:30mother, well it would be less. It'd be less because I'm like,
- 7:34well, no, I guess it's a real life sister. But like you
- 7:38know those other ones that reverse where like in Dexter, wasn't it when they
- 7:42brother and sister on screen and then or whatever? It was weird? Yeah?
- 7:47Yeah, but then they then have some weird relationship. I haven't seen
- 7:49Dexter her, So his sister on screen, he gets married to her in
- 7:55real life. But then towards the last few seasons they actually break up in
- 7:59real life, so that would have been awkward as how Gilmore Girls star Lauren
- 8:03Graham You Got a Button moved on to parenthood and that was playing siblings with
- 8:09Brian Krause on that show, and they were dating in real life while they
- 8:15were playing brother and sister on television. Brian, is he the rookie records?
- 8:20I was going to say that dirty sexy money? Is that the girl
- 8:24say it louder and slower? Never heard of it? Never heard of it?
- 8:28Rauk k r a U s E. That is not the guy I'm
- 8:33thinking of. You want a little bit of trivia about brothers and sisters and
- 8:37TV shows? So in Game of Thrones, Alfie Allen, he was what's
- 8:43the name Alan's Yeah, so she was originally going to play his sister in
- 8:46the show. Lily Allen was because he grabbed her tit out and was finger
- 8:52banging her. She just was like, whoa what did you say? The
- 8:58actor's name was Brian Krause? Are this guy's name is Peter Krauss k k
- 9:05R a U s C or something k R a U s E. The
- 9:09brother alive. That's a great show there by the way, Brothers and Sisters,
- 9:13Yeah, fantastic. Sorry, I got my I got my family.
- 9:18Drama shows confused. Yep, it's all connected, guys. It's like a
- 9:22web, like like that fantastic Madam Web film. It's all just a big
- 9:26web of connected I haven't seen that yet, neither neither is a lot of
- 9:31people that it's God that is. I want to see it, though.
- 9:33I want to see Sidney Sweeney on screen. Calm down, back to your
- 9:39other back to your other crash, Kate Hewlett. Actually, I really find
- 9:45Katie Hewlett really attractive. That's fair enough. Uh, this is where I'm
- 9:48going to begin the dark dive. We all know my feelings about Martin Giro.
- 9:54He's just just a waste of oxygen. I really enjoy this episode.
- 10:01But what am I going to present to you the court is anything you like
- 10:05about this episode was not Martin Geiro's idea Exhibit A. There we go,
- 10:13Kate Hewlett. So I guess we should tell a story about how this whole
- 10:16idea came up. David, when we were writing a hot Zone, I
- 10:18had written this monologue that he's about to die. He's like, I have
- 10:22this brother who lives in such We're not close, which I wrote because I
- 10:24have a brother and you know, I'm not very imaginative. So and he
- 10:28said, listen, can we make it a sister because I actually have a
- 10:30sister and she's an actress and it'd be great to see he and I was
- 10:33like, sure, but you know, your sister's probably never been good,
- 10:35so that's never gonna happen. And then we were continuing in letters from Pegasus,
- 10:39and then I saw a play directed by this man right here, mister
- 10:43Brendan gall who's been a close friend, the guy that plays a husband,
- 10:46and it was starring right there, Kate Hewlett and I didn't even really put
- 10:52it together, and Kate was fantastic. And I told Brennan. I was
- 10:56like, oh my god. And he's like, yeah, well that's that's
- 10:58a that's David's sister. And I said, holy crap. And Carl David
- 11:01and said, we have to do an episode with your sister. So it
- 11:05wasn't that my no, no, no. Devin Hughle had that idea two
- 11:09seasons ago, and then he went no, obviously not. He went and
- 11:13saw a play done by his mate and went, oh, she's really good.
- 11:16Oh, that's her. Okay, now we can do an episode.
- 11:18Wasn't she in a movie with David as well, Dog's Breakfast? I think
- 11:22not the Elevator one. I know that was the title. Who's the title?
- 11:30She means, Okay, sorry, just to you know, go back
- 11:33just while you look that up close. The loop on the on the Madam
- 11:37Web thing on like the day after release. So I'm just going back through
- 11:39my text messages from mates from last week. It was an Apple News spotlight
- 11:43bitter news quote, a notoriously foul piece of work, end quote, shocking
- 11:48superhero movie quote, hates itself is a flop for the ages. I'm like,
- 11:52oh my god, that is I saw that gazy boiler alert. I
- 11:58saw something today that suggests it's actually good at Dog's Breakfast, and it's it's
- 12:03Becky. I think maybe we've shared that person. I have seen this movie
- 12:07that's pretty good. I'm told, I don't know if it's true or not.
- 12:13Less than about thirty seconds of them in their actual costumes. I saw
- 12:16a tweet that said because it was before it even opened in cinema, so
- 12:20it was obviously a reviewer, and they said it was a picture of Sidney
- 12:22Sweeney and her costume and it's yeah, and it said these costumes see less
- 12:28time than Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl. Yeah, that was like fifty
- 12:31three seconds or something. And apparently not a single web shot in the entire
- 12:37film, I'm told until Maddie sees it in the cinema, so that I
- 12:43can't wait to see. Oh my god, it literally called Madam Webb not
- 12:46as single and four five including the villain, five spider themed main characters.
- 12:52So none of them were smart enough to create webshooters? Or are we in
- 12:56like the Toby universe where they have? Wouldn't we know? Because no one
- 13:01apparently nobody. We'll find out, We'll find it, we watch it.
- 13:03Yeah, so yeah, and I will go into it objectively. Really honestly,
- 13:09I would love nothing more than to come out and be the only guy
- 13:11that likes What are you guys talking about? This was excellent? Yeah?
- 13:16Okay, did anyone notice that when Rodney walks the sorry Sam, Rodney walks
- 13:24down the ramp into the Stargate command. Yeah, behind Sam and he's checking
- 13:28her ASTs out. Oh my god, again he just got to stop Pegasus
- 13:33Project. A few weeks ago, I Carumba I think she kind of notices
- 13:39as well. It was like a little bit of a yeah, well she
- 13:41noticed in Pegasus's project and didn't really let him get away with there. I
- 13:43actually always forget that Carter's in this in this episode. Oh really? Yeah,
- 13:46for some reason. I always just because I'm always focused on, Oh,
- 13:48it's Kate, Kate's gonna be in this episode. Great, and then
- 13:52I always just forget that the demand is there as well. It's still funny
- 13:54how it hits me as a viewer though, because I watched that episode of
- 13:58this episode, when I watched last week's SG one episode and then back to
- 14:01back and see watching an episode with Carda in her own show, and then
- 14:05straight in hit play on Atlantis and Carter shows up, and I'm like,
- 14:09oh my god, Carda's here. It's like, dude, what it feels
- 14:13because it's on Earth, it feels like an SG one episode. I shouldn't
- 14:16be surprised. The aesthetic, like it didn't even throw me off, like
- 14:20this is Atlantis? What am I watching? It? Just it flowed on
- 14:22from the last episode, so I still felt like I was in the SG
- 14:26one world. But something in the back of my mind was like, it's
- 14:28Atlantis and then Carter shows up and it was like, oh my god,
- 14:31there's a cameo I've been waiting for for ten years, Like, no,
- 14:33dude, that's yeah, don't do that. And she's done like more cameos
- 14:35in this show than anyone else. I think she's been in every season so
- 14:39far. Like her and Walter just like yeah, usually just punching their cards.
- 14:43Yeah. I gotta say though, when Rodney does show up at Kate's
- 14:48house, oh, sorry, at Jeanie's house, that's got to be the
- 14:52cheapest bunch of flowers I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah, just
- 14:56like three wilted dandelions and a daisy wrapped in butcher his paper. Yeah.
- 15:01Yeah, its like garden flowers. Yeah, and the paper is actually was
- 15:05eating a sandwich on the way there and the wrapper over and wrapped it around.
- 15:09It's like a McDonald's wrapper. Yeah. And it's only because like Horton's,
- 15:13the s O that was driving him to the to the location was like,
- 15:16you didn't bring her flowers? And he's like, am I supposed to?
- 15:20But we get the classic Rodney being terrible with children as his niece hugs
- 15:24his legs. What is this. How's her first ballet recital next Tuesday?
- 15:28She's four? How good could she possibly be? And look to be fair?
- 15:37Sometimes sometimes when Mitchell had like Mitchell has a lot of ship on his
- 15:41plate, I think a lot of children, both correct, both correct,
- 15:46you know, so it never bothers. It's about four in his hounds.
- 15:50One of them's curved. For Christ's sake, that curve one broke because of
- 15:54the four kids too much, Pepper Peggy when I'm out, Yeah, yeah,
- 16:00we want Bluey. You know. Mischa's got all on his plate.
- 16:02So I always give him just infinite slack when stuff comes up. That's got
- 16:06his priority. His family's got to be a priority. But every now and
- 16:08then the Rodney inside me when he says, oh, he can't do something
- 16:12because he's got to go and take his kids to do something, I'm just
- 16:15like, I'm Rodney, being like, they're four. What are they to
- 16:18know the difference? You could tell them you did it yesterday and they believe
- 16:22I'm an uncle and not a farm. My third boy turned two when I
- 16:26was in Disneyland with my brother, and I was so there for four days
- 16:30going through Star Wars Land Galaxy's Edge while my boy turned to there for four
- 16:34days. Yeah. I flew in Monday, left Friday night. My phomo
- 16:40must have been so intense at that point, because that felt like you guys
- 16:42were gone for like two weeks. I had so much fomo. Yeah.
- 16:48One of the reasons why I went last year because I blew out like late
- 16:52late Monday, you know, like ten pm, but arrived, you know,
- 16:53like mid afternoon Monday, and I was I didn't go to the park,
- 16:56but I was like in the vicinity and have eating at their restaurants.
- 17:00It doesn't make sense now having been there, it's like, yeah, four
- 17:03days is more than enough to see both you spent two days into the Indiana
- 17:07Jones Ride and a couple other Well, you can't mention that around me because
- 17:11it broke down twice the day I was there. Very sorry, so but
- 17:15yeah, all day Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and half of Friday,
- 17:18most of Friday, so we really missed out. Yeah, cab, I
- 17:21was there three days, and I spent most of my third day by myself
- 17:23in Star Wars Land, just by myself, you just drinking my blue milk.
- 17:27And then I got a costed by stormtroopers because I was wearing my rebel
- 17:30T shirt, like my Phoenix Squadron T shirt, and they like accosted me
- 17:36and made me like show them my real ID and stuff like that was fantastic.
- 17:38It's very good. Yeah, this is where we're get in trouble for
- 17:41talking too much Star Wars. I need to get it. I don't have
- 17:45a but on of a button. Let's talk a little star Trek need to
- 17:48bounce that far back cow. So that can't be good for you. Now,
- 17:53don't worry about I've done dozens of times. Yeah, she's married and
- 18:00he's my sister. I'm just saying, yeah, no, I know exactly
- 18:03what you're doing. That look before any any comments, Brennan, any any
- 18:08thoughts about about that? No? What about the fact that we had to
- 18:12wait? That scene was a full sixteen minutes into the episode before we finally
- 18:18got to see the glorious weir, you know, just welcoming. Did he
- 18:22just say we had to we had to wait sixteen doing Actually I'm waiting,
- 18:29but like just you know, it's a safe space matter. You don't need
- 18:30to throw out crazy terms like I feel I'm just I'm just I can feel
- 18:36it. Brennan's he's hitching like he's sorry. Okay, just because Brendan's out
- 18:38here, I'll just throw that out there. Just know, if you're listening
- 18:42to this, as Brennan's listening to this, I'm getting abusive texts. Just
- 18:48no, he works out. Yeah, he won't do immediate releases. He'll
- 18:52bottle this ship upload on you next week, he's yeah, and then he'll
- 18:56get angry at it. He's editing something together as we speak, isn't it.
- 19:00Yeah, Brennan cook, let him cook. You mentioned maybe last week,
- 19:12maybe the start of this episode, you weren't sure about the reference for
- 19:15the name of this episode. Yeah, yeah, missus missus Miller. Yeah,
- 19:21McKay and missus Miller. That is a reference to the nineteen seventy one
- 19:25Warren Beatty, who's obviously was in the news a couple of years ago for
- 19:27his fantastic oscar. Yeah. Paul Bastard, Yeah, he did a western
- 19:33in nineteen seventy one called McCabe and Missus Miller. Oh so it's a play
- 19:37on that. Yeah, So obviously McKay McCabe and then they just went,
- 19:41well, we'll give her the last name Miller. Missus Miller. Is that
- 19:45title? That's fun Okay, I didn't pick up on what her name was,
- 19:49and then come the end of the episode, I'm like, oh,
- 19:52do I have to really go back through the last thirty six minutes to look
- 19:55for the reference. So I just assumed that her married name was Miller.
- 19:57But I like the idea that, you know, he pulls her, Hey,
- 20:00look, you know you've you went a little bit mercury rising there and
- 20:03you figured something out and the government or onto it, and you know,
- 20:07with fingerpeats and by the way, uh yeah, I know. I've been
- 20:12missing an absent brother and uncle brother in Laura and all this stuff a couple
- 20:15of years. So yeah, and I'm in another galaxy. So and she's
- 20:18like laughing him off, and he's like, okay, fine, whizzes her
- 20:21up to like space in orbit on a ship and oh, okay, this
- 20:23is all real, tells her everything then goes back down. She told the
- 20:29husband, told her husband, but he didn't know that she told the husband.
- 20:30So when he's like, I can't believe he let you leave, and
- 20:33she's like, well, yeah, once I told him, you told him,
- 20:37Like just the idea. She couldn't keep the secret for an hour.
- 20:42I feel like, isn't that that thing. I know it's maybe not maybe
- 20:45it's not a thing in Canada, but now it's the thing in the States
- 20:47where it's like you're covered under privilege with your spouse, like in terms of
- 20:52if there was any kind of legal Yeah, they can't be forced to Yeah,
- 20:56your spouse can't testify against you because it's Yeah, it's it's like doctor
- 20:59patient confidence jality. I dont think that works on top secret government projects,
- 21:03mate, where where they can they're willing, they're willing off to quintamea Bay
- 21:07and you're like, but I'm married to them, Like, oh, I'm
- 21:10so so take our extreme apologies. Take it up with that pavement pizza reporter
- 21:15from like season three of s G one. Meredith Meredith, Meredith, Meredith,
- 21:21Rodney McKay thoughts Mitchell. When that was mentioned, I was like,
- 21:25Okay, I feel like there's been many things unsaid in this room. And
- 21:30I sit, you know, kind of in between you and Brendan just seeing
- 21:33the looks you fire across from each other geographically and spiritually. Yes, yeah,
- 21:38you are the devil and the angel of my shoulder, and will be
- 21:42very proud he has been the devil on my shoulder. Since about I don't
- 21:45know, grade probably grade nine. I've no names, probably since grade eight.
- 21:48But you know, we said next to each other through many many classes
- 21:52and failed many of those subjects because entertained each other. Bye. By grade
- 21:56nine, it was I am evil Homer. Yeah, I would mutter things.
- 22:00I mean, Brennan would either say things or I would mutter them and
- 22:03then he would say them out loud. Yeah. So either way, he
- 22:06was always the funniest guy in the room. And occasionally I would get one
- 22:08little singer but had no guts to do it, and he often would,
- 22:11but then he get in trouble for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 22:14yeah, great. So I hope that those bricks still have our initials written
- 22:17on them. And w R Mate were no workrow. I thought you were
- 22:22the somethings with no with with retardation, with retainers, seating hell with Yeah.
- 22:36I feel like you guys have been like very subtly have like reference that
- 22:41to each other, even just through eyes over the top of the monitors that
- 22:44are in front of you. Yeah, because it wasn't like that was in
- 22:47any way, shape or form spoiled for me. And it was such a
- 22:49random it's such a random gag like it's completely unnecessary, Like it's obviously great
- 22:55for everyone else to laugh about it and for Ronan to bring back his Yeah
- 23:00yeah, Like I thought that was just when he was under drugs, when
- 23:03Richard Kine was around. No, that's his actual laugh when he just finds
- 23:07something funny. And now I really would to, you know, just go
- 23:10up and give Jason Mahor a tickle and see if I can make that laugh
- 23:11come out. But yeah, it's it's like it's it's it's very funny,
- 23:17but it's like it's so it's so unnecessary that I was like, un like
- 23:22that Kanye meme when I'm like laughing and then I just sort of stop and
- 23:23get all serious about it. Yeah, apparently going if you go back far
- 23:27enough, Meredith was a masculine name. Was traditionally a name used for men,
- 23:33right, and then over the you know, decades and like kind of
- 23:36stuff, it's become a more predominantly feminine name. But there are men out
- 23:40there named Meridith in the same way I guess like John Wayne's real names Marion,
- 23:42Yeah that's right, yeah yeah, and like names like like here in
- 23:45Australia, I think if you hear the name Sean, you typically go,
- 23:48oh, that's a male name, whereas like in America, that's predominantly a
- 23:52female name. Is it. Yeah, And there's and obviously there's a whole
- 23:56bunch of the you know that are kind of gender neutral names that can I
- 24:00used both and all that kind of thing. But but yeah, it was
- 24:03apparently one of the writers in the writers room or something like that was just
- 24:06like, yeah, they, I mean your favorite you were a man called
- 24:08called Meredith, and they just found it endlessly funny. So isn't that a
- 24:11song a man named Meredith? Oh? Google, I just thought you might
- 24:17have brought that up to reference your favorite futuristic gender neutral name, Michael Michael
- 24:21Bennett. Is it Michael Bennette about the character? Yeah? Oh god,
- 24:26you're a Discovery fair lies. Is it's one? Yeah? I mean you
- 24:33brought it up. You brought up her name. It's me. I hope
- 24:36I don't mentioned star Trek again. Yeah. Yeah, he's what four almost
- 24:41he turns five next week. It's it's it's not too late to rename him,
- 24:45is it. I'm not changing your name, buddy, Yeah, I'm
- 24:49going to call him Burnham from now on. I don't don't do that,
- 24:53like how Reese's new son is Grayson. And then because obviously it's a reference
- 25:00Dick Grayson Robin, who is you know, Reese's favorite character. And then
- 25:04yeah, Brendan said that he calls him Dick for short, so his little
- 25:07nephew Dick was such a funny mom I do like, yeah, that's that's
- 25:15what I'm giving. I mean, they could have been a joke, but
- 25:18I'm taking that as that's canon that you know, he absolutely calls in that.
- 25:22Do we think the dynamic in this episode between Rodney and Jeanie was like
- 25:30how much of that was actually them? As like the actors a lot?
- 25:36It was so good. In the audio commentary, they mentioned a lot a
- 25:38lot of little idiosyncre season and the way that they would bicker back and forth,
- 25:44timing, Yeah, it was very much the way they talk. They
- 25:45said, the one thing that they did Martin said, the one thing he
- 25:48didn't include is Kate Hewlett like smacks David's head, like smacks his forehead when
- 25:53he does something silly or stupid or whatever, just in like a playful way.
- 25:56And they did shoot one moment where she did that, and ego,
- 26:00it just it didn't play right for these guys. So that was the one
- 26:03sort of idio signatry that they have as real life siblings they didn't bring in.
- 26:07But a lot of it was. Yeah, the the thing imagine with
- 26:10the with finger paints, the little thing that's something that sort of Kate does
- 26:14on a regular basis when he's like taunting David. So yeah, there's definitely
- 26:18a lot of and that stuff. You can't you can't like fake that.
- 26:22No, it was just so natural, and yeah, it didn't feel forced
- 26:26at all, really really really good and an interesting concept too, Like so
- 26:32many especially even just in Stargate, but in sci fi in general, there's
- 26:36so many episodes where you know, they do this whole thing with an alternate
- 26:40version of yourself, you know Rod with where we introduced Rod. But what
- 26:44I really enjoyed about this episode is that I've never seen it done. But
- 26:47normally it's done so the character can reflect on how bad they are in their
- 26:52love life, in their you know, or at their job or something like,
- 26:57but I've never seen it done in a sibling way to show that you're
- 27:03seeing an alternate version of yourself that shows you what a ship house brother you
- 27:07are. I've never seen that before, and I found that really interesting.
- 27:11They actually liked Rodney better than rod Yeah, that was a great little sort
- 27:15of you know, TV moment at the end. But yeah, it's one
- 27:18of those things that's there's I would say with Mitchell. There's there's things about
- 27:22Mitchell that I absolutely adore. But it's like in other people, I find
- 27:26it so annoying. Jesus, Like that means you're on one bad day.
- 27:30If that's I find it endearing with you. There's certain things you will do
- 27:34and certain habits you have. That for someone I don't care about as much
- 27:38I go I want to. But with you, I'm like, God,
- 27:41he's adorable, you know, like it's it's and I think I think you're
- 27:45right, You're like one day, I'm so nervous now because you didn't specify
- 27:51what. Now I'm just like just because nothing in particular jumps out at me
- 27:55because it doesn't bother me, you know what I meant it No, I
- 28:00get you know what. In the in the ten plus years of friendship with
- 28:03Mitchell, I don't think we've ever had a disagreement once, not even not
- 28:07even on a philosophical level. Have we really Maddie. I like the Snyder
- 28:11cut. See in another person, I would find that incredibly irritating, and
- 28:17I would say, well, you don't know what you're talking about. Watch
- 28:19some movies and learn some Ship's Snyder cut was actually really horrible. Established as
- 28:30if like I was going to use a clip from a show to say this
- 28:37is parenting without it being about parenting. It's that scene from The Simpsons where
- 28:42they have all the puppies, you know, one hundred one downation type episode,
- 28:48and the little puppies go and they crawl up on the TV and they're
- 28:51like no, and then the cat goes up and does it, like get
- 28:56that goddamn cat out of the way. And I'm like, that's parenting to
- 28:59me. It's big goes one kid'll do something and it's amazing, you know
- 29:03my four year old. Sorry, when my boy was for doing something that
- 29:07my then you know, like six year old does the four year old can
- 29:10do it. I'm like, oh my god, that's so cute that you
- 29:12make that little mistake. The six year old. I'm you're too old for
- 29:15that, Like yeah, And I'm like it's the same thing, but it's
- 29:18whoever does it, it's yea and as the youngest of three in my household
- 29:22growing up, I identified with Snowball too. There I was like, I'm
- 29:26the third child, and it's like everything I did was like sharpens it down.
- 29:30That's why there's It's been done thirty times more photos of my sisters growing
- 29:33up as there are of me. Right, yeah, oh Maddie, it's
- 29:38fine, you'll be okay, mate, But if it's not Flow, I
- 29:49don't give you. No. You're right. I actually didn't know what this
- 29:52is going to be just without without you, no thanks, it's gonna be
- 29:56flo or what's the time? One oh time? And I saw a meme
- 30:07and it's like it's like, you can sure being a celebrity is great,
- 30:11or you can be Anya and live in your giant castle with your sixty cats.
- 30:15She's worth like billions. Oh my god, she's not Taylor, mate,
- 30:19She's Ship. So I don't give it Swifties, come at me,
- 30:23come at me, Anya, Wait, hang on, just let him do
- 30:27this by himself. Yeah, Enya is faking zeus. Taylor. Swift is
- 30:34like when you watch Hercules, you know, Haiti's little two little side bitches,
- 30:40panic and pain or wherever they are. That's what they shipped out,
- 30:44that's Taylor Swift coming here. Yeah. Wow, I'm gonna say Jewel crawled
- 30:55so Taylor Swift could walk there. I said it. I said it,
- 31:00you know what. Yeah, and Skippy Taylor Swift concerts tonight. It was
- 31:08two weeks ago it started. It was in Melbourne, last week in Sydney
- 31:15tonight. Gotcha. Yeah, one of her many didn't come to our city,
- 31:19didn't come to That's that's why she did. You know who did pink
- 31:25exactly three times, but she basically does. Yeah, just down the road.
- 31:30And of the two concerts, I've only been to a Pink concert.
- 31:33So when people get introduced to Stargate, as in characters in the show,
- 31:37you always get those little firsts. So with Jeanie we got to see obviously
- 31:42that surprise and then we got to see that where she got to see Earth
- 31:48from space. The big win it which they which they did in the first
- 31:52contract first in First Contact back in nine. Yeah. Sorry, that's that's
- 31:59actually what the first belongs to me. Yea and yeah, and they faked
- 32:05they faked that window like that window doesn't exist anywhere else in any episode of
- 32:08Star Get SG one or Atlantis. They normally have like the sort of y
- 32:13shaped sort of paneling on it, but to give the full effect for Genie
- 32:16to see it, all that had to be just a wall of glass because
- 32:20that wall of glass makes no sense on the Daedalist no sense. And when
- 32:23she saw Hermiad for the first time, that was hilarious. She's just like
- 32:29whitch unfortunately first in that's it. This is the last appearance of Hermiad.
- 32:34No, yes, no way it is, because if you think about it,
- 32:37we're only about ten episodes away from it, from the from the from
- 32:42the finale of s G One. No, Hermiad, this is it doesn't
- 32:47he doesn't a morning? Yeah, I thought so too, And I never
- 32:52noticed. I never, I never, I never realized. But yeah,
- 32:55this is the last appearance of Hermiad. It just destroyed my night, Maddie
- 33:00like to n ending that's going to be you know, I really like that
- 33:07shot because it's effective and it's again, it's like I've mentioned a bunch of
- 33:10times in the podcast, when you first when you bring in characters, new
- 33:15characters for the first time that see the gate and if you can successfully see
- 33:21their wonder even though you've been watching this show for seven or eight years or
- 33:24something. If you can you can be related to that. And that's successfully
- 33:29done. That's really well done. And to see her look at Earth from
- 33:32orbit, I'm like, oh, I really feel that. I feel that's
- 33:36the size of the planet, and I feel the just, yeah, the
- 33:39awesomeness of her being where she is and going what's now, what's possible?
- 33:44Like her entire perception of the universe now really has changed. I can only
- 33:49imagine what seeing like Earth from space looks like for the first time. And
- 33:53I feel like it's been a while since we've sort of re experienced this,
- 34:00and like episodes like the Mister Sheffield one, like we never really got that
- 34:04opportunity. Yes, he kind of knew a little bit about the Stargate program,
- 34:07but they were like trying to stop him from going public about it,
- 34:10and it's like they never I mean, they did take him off world,
- 34:14but he never seemed to have that wonderment moment of oh my god, it's
- 34:16all real and and understand the scope and almost like understand the purpose of why
- 34:23it needs to be you know, kept quiet for now. Yeah. So
- 34:27I think that's why episodes like this are so much more popular, because we
- 34:30as fans of this show look at that and we can put ourselves in that.
- 34:35Yes, it's like when Cam first sees the Stargate and yeah, like
- 34:38he'd obviously like been flying around in space and stuff before, but like,
- 34:43yeah, like that first time seeing the gate and y being able to touch
- 34:46it, Yeah, getting up to it. Yeah, I actually did that
- 34:51again. It's something I did in First Contact with the Phoenix. But it's
- 34:55like between uh, ok, I'm still everything the same thing, so you
- 35:02know, it's kind of still that one definitely, but between like this,
- 35:08like the Cam doing that, doing that tactle thing with the with the gate
- 35:13to make it real. When I went to La and I got to see
- 35:16like the high school from Buffy, I like I just stood in front of
- 35:22it in awe, but I made the like I walked all the up to
- 35:24it and like put my hand on it and touched it to like make it
- 35:29real. Because it's yeah, like shows like this, I have sort of
- 35:36put that in my head where it's like, yeah, you have to sort
- 35:37of touch something to make it real, which obviously the me Too movement kind
- 35:40of has to make move away from that. So you're welcome, Brendan,
- 35:45just that one was for you. Yeah, props have got so many lawsuits
- 35:50again well on that actually, like is is there a stargate somewhere? I
- 35:58believe it got both of them, because there's there was a real Milky Ways
- 36:02Stargate, in a real Atlanta Stargate. I believe at least the Milky Way
- 36:07Stargate was actually chopped up into pieces and auctioned off. Okay, so there
- 36:10are some fans out there and maybe even people from production who have chunks of
- 36:15the stargate, not even like even just like I mean, if again,
- 36:20if you're going to make a replica, you could have just used the real.
- 36:22But I don't know, I know a lot there's a lot of television
- 36:25that's produced in Vancouver and I know that. But Mike ten seasons, if
- 36:32you're just looking at SG one or a seventeen season franchise, I mean surely
- 36:39that's worthy of some point somewhere in Vancouver or wherever having a replica Stargate going.
- 36:46You know, yeah, like either rubber Gate, didn't they the Atlantis
- 36:50one was rubber, So I thought the ones that they used like throughout Vancouver
- 36:54to act as the off world ones they were rubber, weren't they original ressed
- 37:00on one. I thought that could be right, I know, towards the
- 37:02yes right, because I think the Atlantis Offward ones will always cg the the
- 37:07off World SG one gates were rubber or they just had one rubber one.
- 37:14But I feel like in the same way when you go now and look at
- 37:17like the George Clooney and who was Robin and Batman and Rob o'donald, when
- 37:24you go and look at their costumes from Batman and Robin the raw matter of
- 37:27rubber, they've all most of the deteriorator over time just being exposed to air.
- 37:31So I wonder if maybe the rubber gates just don't hold up long term
- 37:36and they possibly degraded at the expiry dates, even just like the obviously be
- 37:44film officers right, like you're not looking at some gigantic studio set or maybe
- 37:49you are like with a bunch of you know, warehouses and sound stages and
- 37:52stuff. But even on there, if there was just like a replica gate
- 37:54there to honor the fact that an American production housed there for seventeen seasons worth
- 38:00of a franchise, this is like it would just be I think, like
- 38:04we've joked too like cam Art. Here in Australia, every came out in
- 38:07the middle of came Up. There's a giant blue ring light in the middle
- 38:10of every store that when I walk under it and I try to like pace
- 38:14like okay, so it's like sitting directly above me, so it's hard to
- 38:16sort of like the world's because ringlight less. I'm laying down. Yeah,
- 38:20I'm like, that looks like it would be about the size of a stargate.
- 38:22It might be a touch smaller, but still. And I've joked in
- 38:25this podcast she said, I'm absolutely Valentine's Day couple weeks ago that I'm like,
- 38:30if there's any came up managers out there, hey, if you're going
- 38:34to eventually you take them down, you give I'll get in a gated call.
- 38:37I don't know which of our backyards we're going to put it in,
- 38:38but I want to figure it out. Yeah, and we can just build
- 38:42the chevrons around that. I'll happily keep that sort of you know, a
- 38:45plastic acrylic whatever that it is at the moment, that's fine, and you
- 38:50know, we'll work some work some wood around it. And it would be
- 38:54great if there was maybe still a mold out there or something like that,
- 38:58because I think you've startgeed origins. Notice anything, it's that it's really hard
- 39:00to it's really hard to replicate the stargate and make it look good. Because
- 39:05that thing looked like it was made out of balsa wood and was made in
- 39:07like an eighth grade shop mass because it was Yeah, we were in the
- 39:13same ete grade shop class and were we did you make the little wind thing
- 39:16and timber? I think I've still got one somewhere really, yeah, Okay,
- 39:21that's all I remember. Oh, and I think I had I think
- 39:23I had a rivet, a dust pennant, like the pan from a dust
- 39:27pennant, and we made a spinning top thing. No, I didn't do
- 39:30that. I made the spirally wind chime. Yeah, we did that,
- 39:35and then the spin top. Maybe you took too long to make the wind
- 39:37chime. Oh absolutely, you don't want me on the tools. Absolutely,
- 39:43he's still making it. Yeah absolutely. Ah, Shall I present my piece
- 39:47of evidence beta, oh about why Martin Gere is a piece of shit?
- 39:54Okay, I'm just trying to space mat for you guys, so don't get
- 39:57fatigue. Let's start with this one. Originally, the idea was is that
- 40:01she was going to come to she was a scientist and was going to come
- 40:05to Atlantis with an idea and stuff, and they were going to work together
- 40:07and get in trouble blah blah blah. But we kind of in the room
- 40:10kind of spun it towards well, what if why hasn't you know, why
- 40:14have we heard from her? So? But then the idea eventually evolved that
- 40:16she got pregnant and really decided that, you know, family is going to
- 40:20be more important. And it's something really interesting to contrast with McKay because he's
- 40:25not anti family, but he's so involved with his work and really the only
- 40:30family he has is or the Atlantis team. So what would happen if,
- 40:32you know, he starts to rekindle with his sister And then it was thin.
- 40:37The story was thin. I mean, it had the first couple of
- 40:40acts and maybe an end act, and then someone said, well, I
- 40:44think it was Robinson. What if another McKay comes through? And originally I
- 40:46was like, oh, that's so dumb, but the idea to bring an
- 40:52alternate McKay that not only would make McKay start to think, well, Jesus,
- 40:57maybe I should be a nice guy, but would show him that he
- 40:59was a bad brother, to show literally himself being a good brother and realizing
- 41:06all of the mistakes he's made and slowly makes them move forward, you know,
- 41:09to try to be a better person. That excerpt, of course,
- 41:13written by Karl Blinder is the is from Letters from Pegasus, which we use
- 41:16later on in the show, which was Brad's idea at the very last moment
- 41:21and is a stroke of genius. So to break that down, Martin Guiro
- 41:25told two years ago, David Hill has a sister. She's an actress.
- 41:30We'll never use her season replay. Oh, let's get her in an episode.
- 41:35His synopsis for the episode McKay's sister visits Atlantis end checks out, checks
- 41:42out the whole idea of Rod showing up as a mirror to McKay and while
- 41:49Jeanie's there to show McKay that he's a bad brother. Robertsone Cooper's idea.
- 41:55That amazing scene at the end where Genie is what she McKay's heartfelt. I'm
- 42:01about to die. This is my last will and testament message specifically to his
- 42:07sister. Written by Carl Binder back in Letters from pegasust that was Brad's idea
- 42:13to put that in the show. So what exactly did Martin Ghiro bring to
- 42:16this episode? His name in the credits thank you stay tuned for part three?
- 42:25Ah shit? Well okay, so and on that too, I remember
- 42:29back with letters from pegasust and did we already mention it at some point?
- 42:31Was it already one of the audiographs you've played or am I just remembering back
- 42:35from you know, years ago on the podcast? That was that written differently
- 42:39to who he had addressed that letter to? And David Hewlett said, well,
- 42:43actually, I have a sister, can I it was written that?
- 42:45Yeah, that McKay was was recording the message to his brother, right,
- 42:49And then David Hewlett said, I have a sister. She's an actress.
- 42:52Yeah, can we change his sister just in case? Yeah, that's cool,
- 42:54that's really cool. Yeah. In this episode there's a couple of throwbacks
- 43:00to previous things from say SG one and row back. I mean, that's
- 43:07that's weird. What in the wrap horn, did you notice how when Rod
- 43:15came through the portal, he hadn't oh you're talking about he had the shield?
- 43:22Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had the shield. Avice from Hide
- 43:24and Seek yep, and from window of opportunity. Obviously the golf clubs that
- 43:34shepherd was cleaning the callaway as well, and you can only just barely see
- 43:38the callaway symbol on the golf I have some other golf trivia for you here
- 43:43we go, but just going back to the kay thing that I was obviously
- 43:45representing, because when Rod there, he is on the pods and pants underneath.
- 43:52Obviously that's why he's the glue. Obviously Rod shows up a lah terminator
- 43:59in that crouchers in the particle accelerator whatever it is taking hallelujah because of I
- 44:07mean, of all the people you're gonna get naked in this show, it
- 44:08is not David Hewlett. And he will back that up, even though he
- 44:12was already naked back in duet last season Free ball and under that cloth.
- 44:19Uh No. My little bit of golf trivia is if you look at when
- 44:23a shepherd is hitting them, if you look at the bucket of balls,
- 44:28it says on the bucket property of Dadalists, do not remove, which is
- 44:34a fantastic touch. But then when you think about it, why would the
- 44:38dadalists have golf balls? Where on the dadalist can you practice your driving.
- 44:43It was probably just a spew bucket or something. Fair call. I assume
- 44:47the golf balls were included in that, but you're right, it could just
- 44:51be just a spew bucket that he stole in and they're his golf being a
- 44:54military person as well, like if there is something on it that says yes,
- 45:00we will tell my God. Why why else? Like it's such a
- 45:04stupid thing to do. I drove past when someone puts the name on a
- 45:08stapler, you know that. I've got a stapler at home from one of
- 45:13my mates from fifteen years on a main road the other day, a very
- 45:17main road here in Brisbane, and there were bins out the front and said
- 45:22like someone had like spray paane on them. Stop stealing our bins. So
- 45:27sorry, guys, they're getting done absolutely. Here the kitchen here at the
- 45:31at the station and there is a probably a two liter clear plastic water jug
- 45:38and it says Coxy's water jug. Do not remove from kitchen, which,
- 45:45okay, a side note to where I'm going to go. Doesn't make sense
- 45:47to me, because why do you need the water jug in the kitchen I've
- 45:52never seen it leave there in the fridge or just it's on the bench,
- 45:55So I don't know whether he comes and fills it up and does he because
- 45:58it's always this Cox I'll show you later. We'll go, we'll go mess
- 46:01up with this stuff. But Stan, if you wanted it, chill,
- 46:04like if you want your own like filtered water. But if you're never going
- 46:07to take the water jug away, why not just get a glass and refill
- 46:12the glass when you go to the kitchen where the water is and where your
- 46:15jug is? Is it a Brita? Does it have a filter? So
- 46:19he feels it from the filtered water in the like we're gonna have the regular
- 46:22tap and a filtered water tap. So is this guy insane? I mean
- 46:28a little bit? Yeah, and he would he would be fine with me
- 46:30saying that he's a great guy, but like he's crazy. If he really
- 46:32wanted people not to touch it, he would. Obviously he should rename it
- 46:36Water's Cox jug and people would, yeah, coxwater. But because of that,
- 46:39what I want to do Water coxwater is Hey, we're radio we go
- 46:44places sometimes I want to start and not like I want to take it.
- 46:47And by the end of the year, the Chris's Party have a little montage
- 46:51of Hey, in like what a week NRL's in Las Vegas. One of
- 46:54our guys is going to Las Vegas. I think I might send him with
- 46:58the water jug. You have to reminds me of a story from when I
- 47:00was in Afghanistan. Our company sergeant major, he had this big bloody hat,
- 47:07right, like a camouflaged hat. We used to steal it all the
- 47:09time, right every people would go on leave throughout the Afghanistan deployment. This
- 47:15hat had been in nightclubs in Vegas, it had been in Mexico, it
- 47:20had been in Guadalajara, and all all around the world. This accellent and
- 47:25he kept winging that people were stealing his bloody hat. Yeah, it had
- 47:29its own Facebook pagel. Yeah, no, I think you have to do
- 47:36that. But that is a great Touchdore for the j so one. It
- 47:38doesn't make sense to golf thing and to the fact that it did have it
- 47:42and someone has taken it, Like yeah, I mean you literally have a
- 47:45segment every day called Mitch on the Street. So yeah, no, you're
- 47:46right, and you could take it out every day. He wouldn't be here
- 47:50before I get back. Yeah, so yeah, I could actually do that,
- 47:52rod Envies Rodney who would have thought, Hey, as a wise man
- 47:58once said the singing the lyrics in my head with okay, so I plant
- 48:14flute. Sorry, I'll just take down the thinking music and ready and the
- 48:17grass is always greener on the other side, but just as hard to mumble.
- 48:27Just to thank you, John Butler pan flute, Well, I get
- 48:29dead pan and I think did I One of us mentioned that lyric a couple
- 48:34of podcasts ago and just I felt the eye roll from Brendan Yeah, yeah,
- 48:37and then it just did you feel it? Oh? Look great to
- 48:47have the sound. This is my just in case page. A lot of
- 48:50the time in TV shows, when you have the same actor playing two different
- 48:53characters, it looks terrible. Oh, it can be. However, it
- 48:59didn't look bad even in this franchise. There's been episodes, yeah, but
- 49:02it didn't look bad in this episode. Martin Rodney, there's a lot.
- 49:07Yeah, I was really impressed. It's it's one of those episodes where you
- 49:10forget that it's the same person. Normally you're supposed to be the guy that
- 49:14keeps this on track, Mitch never Yeah, but this was I think Martin
- 49:25would obviously learned from having done it multiple times in this show in this series
- 49:30before, Yeah, I think he said there was only one moment when they
- 49:35kind of like have that little they go like behind the screen and talk.
- 49:37He said, there's one moment where like Rodney looks up and looks at rod
- 49:40but rod is kind of looking away, so he's like actually staring at his
- 49:45forehead, which, to be fair, you know, Hewlett's got a forehead.
- 49:49What was the SG one episode where they had like the multiple SG teams
- 49:52effect. Yeah, like some of those just looked at some of those some
- 49:57of those Carter wigs, they were so bad. Yeah, And even like
- 50:01one of the first ones when one of my least favorite episodes when we given
- 50:05long haired Carter shows up through the Quantum Mirror Wolf. There were some rough
- 50:10shots in that, but this was really good, even a moment where like
- 50:14Rod is like handing stuff to Rodney and he's like taking it off him.
- 50:16And Yeah, if you have a chance to listen to the audio commentary where
- 50:20you watch the episode, Martin Wood really does take you through a lot of
- 50:22those moments and it was done very well. See how well it's really really
- 50:27darn, especially like just that scene where it's just the three Hewletts it's Rod,
- 50:32Rodney, and Jeanie all sitting in that sort of isolation room just having
- 50:36that conversation, sitting on those chairs as the camera just kind of like three
- 50:39sixty spins around to have a third one that came in who actually went by
- 50:45Meredith. Oh that would have been good. Yeah, it's like you're destroying
- 50:51two universes. Or to bring it back to Lord of the Rings for Mitchell
- 50:55is like instead of going by Meredith, Rod goes by Mary. Yeah.
- 51:00I was like going, what reference are you going to possibly make? Mate?
- 51:02You don't even like that stuff? Now? The first one's fine,
- 51:07Yeah, that's true, just fine, It's okay. Yeah, Like I
- 51:14was just thinking about that before when old Giro was running through everybody else's better
- 51:19ideas, like this is part one, part one, this like it was.
- 51:22It was a lot going on the fact that you know, we're bringing
- 51:27the system he has us. Okay, we know he's had a sister,
- 51:30but really actually giving her a face, making him more tangible, giving their
- 51:34relationships and backstory, we know his name is Meredith, bringing her to Atlanta.
- 51:37She's you know, come up with an equation that will help them just
- 51:42like develop something, you know, impossible really, And it's like that in
- 51:45itself could be the episode. I don't know how it ends other than just
- 51:50like, oh, whoops, we're done something that is at threat of destroying
- 51:53us. We've seen that forty seven times already. What's to stop them from
- 51:58doing it? Reference in this that time blew up three quarters, you know,
- 52:02like you blew up a solar system. It's like, oh, you,
- 52:07you're a naughty boy. But then halfway through and it's like, oh,
- 52:13just a little wormholes over it up to another like portable of dimension here
- 52:17he is like, she didn't even know that we could leave the planet at
- 52:22the start of the episode, and all of a sudden she's dealing with an
- 52:24alternate dimension version of her own brother in the same room as a real brother.
- 52:29And I'm like, and there's a there's a lot going on here,
- 52:32guys. But it did like it. It seemed to fit again. This
- 52:37is the first time. And I'm sure you guys are like, you seem
- 52:39to like this episode, so you're not having a problem with it jumping around
- 52:43to a lot of different things. But I'm glad in that sense that I
- 52:45liked it now, and I guess I will like it again with rewatches that
- 52:49it won't seem too jarring from being a story about siblings to all of a
- 52:52sudden parallel dimensions and the fact that we're drawing energy. That was like yeah,
- 52:59energy, yeah, along in short of it, right. I think
- 53:00the thing that helped with that is because it was Genie's proof that proved that
- 53:06that was something that could be done, that alternate universes do exist that we
- 53:12can draw energy from. I guess it's not that much of a jump to
- 53:15say, well it could be populated as well, because I think maybe Carter
- 53:21one. But yeah, they said something about the most universes wouldn't be popular
- 53:25universe, funny out of the odds of us pulling from one. Yeah,
- 53:28that's actually because whenever they've spoken about parallel universes before, they're like, hey,
- 53:32well there's an infinite number out there, and like every one of them,
- 53:36there's a version of you that made a different choice in your life,
- 53:38and there's another one where you did everything. You know, like all that
- 53:43stuff, right, Like they're saying, where there's infinite versions of us out
- 53:46there, But in this episode, it's like, hey, look the chances
- 53:50that we like hook in to a dimension that's even like got like living things
- 53:57in it is so small, I'm like, what the talk talking about?
- 54:00Like just in my maybe monkey brain way of thinking about parallel dimensions based only
- 54:06on science fiction television and movies, I still I'm like, is that ridiculous?
- 54:09But then the fact that this show has only ever spoken about not even
- 54:13the possibility of like populated or unpopulated, just that there are other people in
- 54:16every galaxy at like, yeah, there is, isn't It's almost like,
- 54:21why wouldn't there be if only they knew they were in a sci fi show
- 54:22and that it's a boring episode if that universe is empty? Yeah, So
- 54:29it's like if only they knew that, you know, obviously someone was going
- 54:31to be there. Yeah, and they're luckily it wasn't an enemy, lucky
- 54:35that he wasn't the Wraith that came through, and it was actually rod that
- 54:37came through. Well, as soon as he come through, because he had
- 54:38that sort of smug look, I know that he's rod or Rodney here is
- 54:42a mackay, even if he's a quote unquite better version, he is Rodney
- 54:45McKay. When he first walks through. We don't know any different other than
- 54:49that's Rodney McKay or another one a cool leather jacket. He has a cool
- 54:52oather jacket and just side note, he does have a little bit better hair
- 54:55as well. And I feel like Rodney versus Rod is also Mitchell when he
- 55:01like when he found his hair then you sorry you Mitch. Now. I
- 55:05figured I'm nervous again crazy, it would be not Cam Mitchell, but it's
- 55:09you in your Justin bieberhad days versus once you. You know that's going a
- 55:14bit far, isn't it. No? No, he actually had big,
- 55:17like long hair down to like my brows. It was all down, all
- 55:22down before it before it was up. It was down, and it's like
- 55:24I found his fault. It's up though it's receding man. No, no,
- 55:29no, I decided to throw it back, but I did. I
- 55:31discovered my forehead as I was starting to recede. So it's like, no,
- 55:36no, no, you're actually like the land the real estate, and
- 55:37the landscape is going to front the other direction. I should like that.
- 55:40It's like that scene where they raised the stargate in the in the sun.
- 55:44Yeah yeah, yeah, So I feel like rod Rod's hair was like you
- 55:47now and Rodney's hair was like you you and the Biber days. Okay,
- 55:54yeah, out there, I have a look through your Facebook exactly. You
- 56:00have to go too far embarrassing. But when he pops out and I'm like,
- 56:04okay, there's Rodney and he said, that's the smug look on his
- 56:06face. But also I'm like, is this going to be an evil?
- 56:08Like is that? Is it going to be as simple as that? Again,
- 56:12he didn't have a go. It's that one shot and beyond that he's
- 56:16fine. And I even stopped looking or waiting for the for the turn where
- 56:22he was like, you know, deceiving them, And when they had their
- 56:23backs turn, he's like hooking in you know, USB into the computer to
- 56:27give a virus with the quote unquote evil SG one. Yeah, you know,
- 56:31we really evil, but they were just a little more morally loose with
- 56:36the morals. Yeah. I was a little worried the image because it just
- 56:39as you started this sort of topic, I was like, well, were
- 56:43sounding a little bit gearo numero sinco I presented the court number seven. I
- 56:52actually think there's too much tech talk in this episode. I knew, even
- 56:55though I mean I really wanted this to the whole reason that they're there to.
- 57:01I didn't try it ever in a draft, but I was making a
- 57:04push for just never really even go there. But once you, once we
- 57:07committed to bringing Rod over, you really had to explain what all that was
- 57:10and what's going on. And I just worry that it weighed down a little
- 57:15bit for the non science fiction fans, you know, the non I just
- 57:20wrote down too much tech talk, Like too much. We're watching this because
- 57:22we like tech talk. Too much tech talk for the non sci fi fans
- 57:28watching season three, episode eight of the spin off show of the sci fi
- 57:32series that was a series based on a sci fi film based on an alien
- 57:39piece of technology from ancient drug test him and then he's like, oh,
- 57:45you know, I hate having to like and this is in the first time
- 57:47Giro has done this where he's like, I hate like having to like write
- 57:52something and then like explain why what shows did Giro before? She wanted nothing?
- 58:02Just like here you go. Yeah. He he's the Cooper of of
- 58:07Atlanta's was like his first thing and he suddenly becomes like a showrunner of it.
- 58:10He's usually starting to make Cooper look good. Yeah right, oh easy,
- 58:15can't calm down, It's okay, Uh he did go on to have
- 58:19a very successful show. Was a flash Point? Oh flash Yeah, that
- 58:22was a good show. Actually, I believe that's the one They had the
- 58:24Pink Power Ranger in it. Then, No, I'm thinking of the one
- 58:29that had Lady Stiff in it. What was that one called? It was
- 58:32a police show? Flash Point was a Canadian police drumma. No, he
- 58:37did the one where it was like people forgot all their memories for a minute
- 58:40and then right and then she was covered in tattoo. No, this is
- 58:45completely It was like a decade about blind Spot. That could be the one
- 58:50that he did. Yes, blind Wow, that we've gone from a Canadian
- 58:55Flashboard would have been on at the same time as Atlantis. It was like
- 58:59late too. Yeah, he was the producer, writer, and creator of
- 59:02blind Spot. Too much planning. That was what I always heard about that
- 59:06show is that he basically walked into the studio and went his five seasons.
- 59:08Okay, we got there though, around got there and all that TV,
- 59:14all that Holly without Google and nothing? Does it count? Does it count?
- 59:17If I'm on IMDb? Is that googling? We know we figured it
- 59:22out before that. We did a lot of process of elimination before you put
- 59:25finger to pad there, so say it, say it lower, and click
- 59:30the button. Let's see. He started on Atlantis in two thousand and four.
- 59:36His only other producing credit was two thousand and seven. His writing credits
- 59:39pre two thousand and four was twenty two episodes in two thousand and two of
- 59:45something called The Wholmes Show, with an IMDb star rating of two point eight
- 59:50out of ten. Be he he's terrible, and he put himself in an
- 1:00:00episode of Stargate Atlantis and named himself Danger Beckett. Come on, mate,
- 1:00:07Danger Beckett. I almost rest mikel. We've already got a Carson Beckett like.
- 1:00:10Yeah, he was like his brother brother or something, only ended up
- 1:00:14in the special features. I don't know. I'm not watching that bullshit.
- 1:00:19Would you care for my last piece of evidence? Yes? Okay, then
- 1:00:22numero dos? I don't. I don't speak Espanol, so I don't know
- 1:00:25those things Espanol. But we INTERPUTI per la fronce. Were you just spitting
- 1:00:43a little bit, a little bit, a little bit as opplosed to your
- 1:00:45play. If you said to me in French, if you said to me
- 1:00:52in French, do you speak French? I would say we in, which
- 1:00:57means yes, a little bit. Great people at you play you know they
- 1:01:00still exist? Yeah? Oh yeah, oh see I'm a mainland man.
- 1:01:06That's a New Zealand company, isn't it. They know the dairy? Oh
- 1:01:10that Boys and Berry with the Boys and Berry swell, Oh, just I
- 1:01:14want to stick my dick in it. It's so good. There was no
- 1:01:17need there is. How was we gonna get laughs if Brendan's not here,
- 1:01:22you know what I mean, he will appreciate that. Yeah, how else
- 1:01:27do we get laughs? If Brendan's on all the glue on the trivia note,
- 1:01:30he's the laugh track? What you know what I mean? Again?
- 1:01:34You know, I don't. I don't really understand how people bright. I
- 1:01:37don't. I just sit down and I come from kind of an improv background
- 1:01:42and I just let it all come out and you get into trouble sometimes because
- 1:01:45sometimes it's just not there. But this one, every time I went there
- 1:01:47something, there were like great happy accidents like that, like that line that
- 1:01:52just that just came out, you know, And uh, it's probably because
- 1:01:54I'm a genius. I was gonna say I was gonna go to the genius
- 1:01:57part. No, this is interesting possible on not to sound like an asshole
- 1:02:00on these What do you think about that? I think you sound as bright
- 1:02:05as you actually are. Let's see, thank you, Martin. Would I
- 1:02:13mean, there's twelve and a half seasons at this point of audio commentaries,
- 1:02:20no one sounds like an asshole except for this man closing statements Mattie Martin Guiro
- 1:02:27waste of oxygen. Uh clearly admitted in this doesn't know how to write.
- 1:02:30And then he's like, well, actually I'm self different. I'm actually his
- 1:02:34genius. Jail arrest my case until next until the next episode, he writes,
- 1:02:45and I'll be back. Well that was a little more on Martin gear
- 1:02:50Well, I guess I can't we just closing arguments, I know, but
- 1:02:52what is what is this I object I have? We're going to reopen the
- 1:02:58case? Yeah? Well was it was the case closed yet? All we
- 1:03:01went to closing comments? Yeah, but the judge hasn't made a ruling yet.
- 1:03:05Have they let me just play this in reverse? Excellent? Fantastic,
- 1:03:12Thank you Dick wolf Oh in this case, wolf Dick, because I played
- 1:03:16Hey, I guess I can't blame you for this on this is on the
- 1:03:21the I don't know the people who do, like all the playback on the
- 1:03:23screens and stuff like that. When we get to the end of the episode
- 1:03:25and they're trying to send Rod back and it's depleting the ZPM and he's like,
- 1:03:30no, give it a few more seconds. It Brennan love this.
- 1:03:35It says zz PM module depleted. Now, what's the M in zz PM
- 1:03:42stand for? Again, like ATM machine, ATM machine, the ATM machined.
- 1:03:45So zz PM sorry, zero point module module depleted. Oh no,
- 1:03:52oh, computer says no. Yeah, that's a shame because you know they
- 1:03:58don't have to do it. It's one thing for us common is to call
- 1:04:00on an ATM machine. But yeah, if we're speaking tech talk, maybe
- 1:04:03that was Ghiro trying to write his own way, going I've had enough tech
- 1:04:06talk. I'm gonna speak a normal speak. Yeah, I'm gonna say,
- 1:04:10yeah, I'm gonna say he wrote in the show notes, camera pans to
- 1:04:14screen showing ZPM module depleted, and whoever was doing the playback went, well,
- 1:04:18he's Giro, He's a Martin. I've got to listen to him because
- 1:04:21otherwise Robert Cooper's gonna come over and tell me what an amazing director who is
- 1:04:26well, I'm just gonna do what I'm told, and that's how we got
- 1:04:29ZPM module deplet. Oh dear, do you think that like these guys sit
- 1:04:35there listening to God. I hope so, like like Martin, Martin Guiro
- 1:04:41sits there and he has Brad Wright and Joe Malotzi know they have an open
- 1:04:46invitation to this podcast, just sits there. He's like, where this guy
- 1:04:49and ever that? And you know we know from remember that, remember that
- 1:04:53audio bit that was the tweet that Brendan found or whatever where Joseph Malotzi said
- 1:04:58they all used to go like to lunch together for years and there was one
- 1:05:02person that never paid. People never paid, he wouldn't say. And then
- 1:05:08Brendan replied to the tweet and said it was Cooper, wasn't it? And
- 1:05:11he liked it. They all hate so Brad Wright, Joe Malozzi, you
- 1:05:19know, you guys have an open invitation anytime and you'll be getting the first
- 1:05:24hand jobs of the day. But Cooper and Guiro, oh, you better
- 1:05:29come correct if you come anywhere near being boy a hard sasses coming out her
- 1:05:35brain is going to fall any more pieces of evidence Maddie. Uh no,
- 1:05:42I I yield my time to the defense. Who's defending this Cooper and Guiro.
- 1:05:54They've remained silent. There we go until next week. One thing I
- 1:06:00do want to check with Mitch because it's something we've We've tickled your ass with
- 1:06:02a feather about it a couple of times previously, and they drop it again.
- 1:06:06At the end of this episode, as Rodney is saying goodbye to Genie,
- 1:06:10he says, Hey, the Intergalectic gate bridge should be ready soon.
- 1:06:14Maybe I'll come visit. Oh yeah, okay, So we got reference to
- 1:06:17back a little while ago, sort of jump points right jumper. We're collecting
- 1:06:21gates. We're going to do something, so we might be getting close in
- 1:06:28the mid season finale. It sounds like it might be otherwise. It was
- 1:06:33very specific. It's not to spoil anything for me reference because you know,
- 1:06:39I don't like to say miss mid season finale. If I canna help it.
- 1:06:43You really to force yourself, all right. That is two hundred and
- 1:06:47foot before of getting the gate. We are back next week with finger panting.
- 1:06:55We will do we should do some finger painting. Let's let's do our
- 1:06:58own little drawing of the gate painting, just do some fingering. We really
- 1:07:02book ended this podcast. We really did. You're welcome read now half Proud
- 1:07:06Socials. We haven't done it for a long time, and I've had a
- 1:07:11Patreon chat out that I needed to do for months at this point. Get
- 1:07:15them on out, mate, Let's do it. Let's do it. Shows
- 1:07:18you work. Check out a Patreon if you heard it. Yeah, as
- 1:07:21Mitch mentioned last week, a couple of weeks prior, you would have heard
- 1:07:27some of our Patreon content, little movie chat we did about some favorite sci
- 1:07:30fi films and stuff like that. That's all the stuff you can find on
- 1:07:33a Patreon if you want to go and check it out. You know something
- 1:07:34that didn't get mentioned from anybody, And I'm not saying it should have.
- 1:07:38I'm just considering it's out in a couple of days like June. You never
- 1:07:45you know, like I know, we've been talking on enough and you're like,
- 1:07:47hey, like it's fine, but it's not like it hasn't properly grabbed
- 1:07:50you. But I just mean even the original or the sci fi the original
- 1:07:55starring Patrick Stewart of X Men fame, you very good, but like you
- 1:08:03know, Brendan's like, if you say, Blade running Europe cock whereas you
- 1:08:08know, Dune is the White White Star Wars is loosely based on sort of
- 1:08:12thing inspired by Fromage Yeah, I'm just super loose. Yeah sure, but
- 1:08:18like I'm like, that's a direct like just like in Space and Planet the
- 1:08:24doorstop. Nothing loose about that, mate. That was your butt that time,
- 1:08:30not your wife. Sorry was mixing metaphors. It was just the spice.
- 1:08:33Yeah, you know, I haven't. I guess when we recorded that
- 1:08:36we hadn't seen Dune Part one, had we Okay, I guess I'm reserving
- 1:08:44my full thoughts on until we get part two. I guess, well we
- 1:08:47get to see it in a couple of days and Christ and me reading good
- 1:08:49things. By the way, I am furious the Wicked trailer came out for
- 1:08:56over the Super Bowl whatever that thing is where like that the game they play
- 1:09:00around that show and all the important trailers that they had, the trailer for
- 1:09:06Wicked starring Ariana Grande and other people. Uh that hang on pop ship can
- 1:09:15Taylor Swift, but he will singlely name thank you next. That's what That's
- 1:09:21what I say to Taylor Swift, thank you Next. And then her other
- 1:09:26single, new One, yes, and yeah the word comma word like is
- 1:09:31that just where you? And if I whisper one word comma another word that's
- 1:09:35a hits and and the dance moves are so ty. Yeah, it's just
- 1:09:42like he's just like yes, and dress like a schoolgirl for you're not old
- 1:09:46mate from DCS. She needs to let go of the pony. She needs
- 1:09:51to let go of a high pony. Anyway, Wicked is actually a two
- 1:09:58part film. I really so it's gonna be Wicked and then it's going to
- 1:10:00be in another year and a half time after a Wicked Part two or whatever.
- 1:10:03I spies that, Yeah, say Wicked part one, let us know,
- 1:10:11let us know ahead of time, didn't they know? It's just but
- 1:10:13at least it's not it's not like it's say, not like it's hidden.
- 1:10:15But I guess most people in the world aren't like how they hid the me
- 1:10:23mean girls, I can't think of anything that's like remotely related to me part
- 1:10:30two. This will be the new musical movie or whatever. And it was
- 1:10:35a musical and people didn't know it wasn't there was space Lindsay Lohan. Yeah,
- 1:10:42they remade that. Tina fe like rewrote it her own film twenty years
- 1:10:45after. Yeah, it's a musical now, and when they promoted it,
- 1:10:48they didn't let anyone know it was a musical. Oh right, people were
- 1:10:50upset and saving with Willy Wonker. Now that I feel like, well,
- 1:10:55if you've seen given the originally trailer for Walker, and that was that was
- 1:11:00very charming that. Yeah, there's it's good. I love Timothy, ye,
- 1:11:05Simothy, and you had your French flavor and shall please Anyway, ten
- 1:11:20hours ago, I said I was going to a shout out to some of
- 1:11:23our patre because this is I threw to the movie. Anyway, thank you.
- 1:11:28I've actually closed this podcast twice already. That's episode Yeah, thank you
- 1:11:33to some of our patreons, including Brandon Holt, Rosemary Bayless, Michael Hotton,
- 1:11:41Rachel. We're gonna have to call Rosemary the shank the shank and Harold
- 1:11:45would have to be whole, ye obviously, oh, Michael Hotton, Brandon
- 1:11:49Holt, Harold Brandon close to Brandon. Yeah, do we go back the
- 1:11:55extra step and call ing PM if he's Holt, He's never going to shut
- 1:11:58up again. Easy for one month and he's gone. You're Australia, look
- 1:12:02into that am for a swim one day and literally the serving Prime Minister went
- 1:12:09swimming at the beach seen again in Sydney, somewhere else Sydney just went for
- 1:12:14a swim and never came back to the sand. His secret service stole.
- 1:12:16People are like, where is he? They should have named like a submarine
- 1:12:20after room or something like that. They neamed a pool after him. I
- 1:12:24know, I'm not. There was a song that had something about did the
- 1:12:29Harold Holt or something like it? Actually it should be. It should be
- 1:12:32a swimming move like there's the butterfly, the backstroke, breathrog the Harold Holt
- 1:12:36where you just go on to sink and die. Yeah, you just go
- 1:12:39down and don't come up. I'd also like, did that Rachel Soonest Soon?
- 1:12:45Oh, that's a good friends one. That's a sports reference. I'm
- 1:12:49just doing for sure, I was doing. I played the su big suit.
- 1:12:57This is Rachel Soonest And the last one, I'm really upset bright.
- 1:13:01Now what's the name again, Rachel Soon? Yes, there we go in
- 1:13:09the last one, shout out to ret Coon Cooper. All one word,
- 1:13:13that's his name, that's Cooper, Red con Cooper. Does he want to
- 1:13:17be picked on? I think it's very presumption to choose their gender in twenty
- 1:13:21twenty five, ow Craig, Look that'll get You're not invited back from another
- 1:13:26twenty episodes. That's all right, no handy, no handy for you.
- 1:13:31So thank yes, thank you to everyone who jumps on our Patreon. You
- 1:13:35guys have been outstanding, I mean always, but especially recently. Some nice
- 1:13:42discourse going on in the and the comments of some of that, you know,
- 1:13:45arguing, yeah nah, but like they're so chill, not even just
- 1:13:48like, oh my god, great. I also like this. It's like
- 1:13:51they're writing little short novella's in there, like starting their own conversations. Actually,
- 1:13:57it's actually really cool. I can't remember the person's name, but I
- 1:13:59want to give you a share that out. He's he's deemed those of us
- 1:14:01who are weird fans, the wirdos. I kind of like that approved,
- 1:14:08Yeah, approoved, no objections for Brendan. Ei there I imagine, yeah,
- 1:14:11exactly. It's really quiet. Works for both of us. Get that
- 1:14:14on the ship. Yeah, if you've got a problem, Brinda, don't
- 1:14:15say something. Change your proof. Well, I'm Brendan, you're so progressive.
- 1:14:21See you next week. He'll love being quote progressive, get into geek,
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