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Gorgeous College Professor-Turned-Bloody-Pulp, Eyes Gouged by Love-Obsessed Co-Worker · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How does a gorgeous New
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Speaker 1: England college professor end up brutally beaten, stabbed in the face,
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Speaker 1: her eyes nearly gouged out, horrific injuries, her bloody body
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Speaker 1: left lying in the floor. How does that happen to
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Speaker 1: a lady college professor? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know,
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Speaker 1: we often think of college professors kind of balding with
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Speaker 1: spectacle glasses, carrying books and papers and a let's just say,
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Speaker 1: a plaid blazer with the elbow pads in the world
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Speaker 1: of their own an ivory tower, so to speak of education, right,
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Speaker 1: never colliding with the world of crime. Well, what happened
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Speaker 1: to Laurette's savoy changes all of that. Again, thanks for
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Speaker 1: being with us here at Foxnation. In series see eleven,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to this. Moments after opening the door,
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Speaker 1: they were hit over the head with something hard and
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Speaker 1: then repeatedly attacked. People are capable of lots of scary things,
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Speaker 1: so I mean, unfortunately that does happen, but I mean
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Speaker 1: it is kind of scary to hear that that it
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Speaker 1: happens too close to home. I mean, they're you know,
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Speaker 1: well educated, well and usually it's Yeah, I guess you
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Speaker 1: don't always expect that, but I think it could be anybody.
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Speaker 1: You can say that again, you don't expect a high
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Speaker 1: level university professor, a female, especially to have her eyes
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Speaker 1: gouged out. No, that's pretty uncommon with me, an all
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Speaker 1: star panel. You were just hearing Sydney Snow at WWLP
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Speaker 1: twenty two with me California prosecutor, host of Red author
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Speaker 1: of Red Flags, and hosts of Today We Doctor Wendy
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Speaker 1: KCPQ joining US. Doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoanalyst to the Stars,
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Speaker 1: joining us out of LA at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, the chief medical Examiner in Tarrant County.
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Speaker 1: That's Fort Worth lecturer at University of Texas and Texas
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Speaker 1: A and m Lisa Daddio, former police Lieutenant New Haven
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Speaker 1: and senior lecturer at the Center for Advanced Policing in Neha.
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Speaker 1: And Dominic Poli joining US news reporter with a Greenfield
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Speaker 1: Recorder and you can find them on Facebook at the
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Speaker 1: Recorder newspaper. What a case. This beautiful professor brutally attacked dominic. First,
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Speaker 1: let me talk to you about where this went down.
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Speaker 1: In Leverett, Massachusetts. Tell me about that first. What kind
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Speaker 1: of town is that? Where did this happen? Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: happens in Leverett, Massachusetts. Um, it's a pretty quintessential New
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Speaker 1: England town just next to Amorost where UMass Amorst is.
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Speaker 1: It's a very quiet, peaceful town. It's known for the
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Speaker 1: peace Pagoda. It's this Buddhist sanctuary that's very popular with
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Speaker 1: tourists and mass students as well as students from Amherst
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Speaker 1: College or Hampshire College. It's a very quintessential New England town. Okay,
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Speaker 1: hold on, when you were saying peace pagoda, you just
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Speaker 1: can't reel something light like that dominant poli off to
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Speaker 1: me and may not want to know how a woman
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Speaker 1: basically gets her eyes gouged out near the piece pagoda.
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Speaker 1: What is the piece pagoda? It's it's a holy place
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Speaker 1: um for Buddhism. It's um. It's a very quiet, tranquil place.
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Speaker 1: It's been there something I think the eighties. I've been
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Speaker 1: a few times in my life and it's in the
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Speaker 1: same town where this attack occurred. A piece pagoda a
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Speaker 1: Buddhist stupa and it is to inspire and promote peace,
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Speaker 1: designed to provide all around it a focus, to unite them,
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Speaker 1: to unite their souls in a peaceful way. I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at a picture of it right now, and it's really
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Speaker 1: hard for me to imagine this university professor. And I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna explain why. I keep emphasizing that she is a female,
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Speaker 1: why she is attacked so brutally, even attacking her face
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Speaker 1: and her eyeballs joining me. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor and
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Speaker 1: author of Red Flags on Amazon. Wendy Typically we see
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Speaker 1: violent crime involving men no offense Dodger Kendall Crowns and
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Speaker 1: Dominic Polly. This is not about you. This is statistically
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Speaker 1: men are involved in violent crimes. So when you see
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Speaker 1: a university professor attacked in this manner, your mind naturally
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Speaker 1: leaps to it being a man. But not so That's
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Speaker 1: exactly right, And that was one of the very first
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Speaker 1: things that struck me about this case. And it just
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Speaker 1: goes to show you, you know, sometimes we can't assume
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Speaker 1: or stereotype what victims would look like in a case
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Speaker 1: like this. And I guess another thing is this stereotype
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Speaker 1: that a professor is going to be a man. I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking back to law school, Wendy Patrick, where my only
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Speaker 1: female professors. Let's see, in ethics and in tax there
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Speaker 1: are very few female professors. So when you hear this
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Speaker 1: New England professor has been brutally attacked, just a bloody mess,
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Speaker 1: you think of it being a man, but it's not. Yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: that's right. And you know it's a sign of the
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Speaker 1: times that we actually not only have women fulfilling some
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Speaker 1: of these traditionally male positions, but then victimized in this manner.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was always surprising to hear that a
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Speaker 1: case like this ends up having this type of a victim.
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Speaker 1: And you know another thing about it, dominic polie. You
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Speaker 1: know what, let me go to our shrink, doctor Bethany Marshall,
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Speaker 1: Psychoanan's joining us out of la. When you think of
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Speaker 1: New England, a lot of people may imagine, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: just Ga Fletcher, okay, who was a teacher and she
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Speaker 1: was a mystery writer in Maine, remember her. And you
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Speaker 1: those that aren't familiar with New England, you have this
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Speaker 1: ideal setting in your head about what New England is
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Speaker 1: much less a university campus, doctor Bethany. Yes, but Nancy,
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Speaker 1: I've been academic settings for many years, and yes, it
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Speaker 1: might be a very idyllic setting. You have a female professor,
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Speaker 1: you have her students. But Nancy, there's no worse war
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Speaker 1: than a war of ideas, and academic settings can be
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Speaker 1: quite vicious. You have people vying to be department chair,
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Speaker 1: you have people writing competing stories. You have them publishing articles,
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Speaker 1: scientific articles and peer peer reviewed journals, and then they're
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Speaker 1: all their colleagues read the articles, and the colleagues way
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Speaker 1: in in a vicious way, refute the articles. So the
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Speaker 1: seemingly idyllic academic settings where you're teaching young people to
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Speaker 1: be smart and think critically and lead a great life,
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Speaker 1: it can be a hotbed of envy, resentment, professional and
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Speaker 1: intellectual resentment against each other, competition and rivalry. Time stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Do I need to remind everybody of
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Speaker 1: Amy Bishop? Is that name? Ringing a bell? A university
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Speaker 1: professor opens fire, killing three of her colleagues. I believe
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Speaker 1: when her distortation was rejected, or she didn't get tenure,
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Speaker 1: something along the lines doctor Bethany's talking about right now,
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Speaker 1: she opened fire and killed three colleagues. Do you remember
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Speaker 1: that doctor Bethany Marshall, So maybe the Ivory Tower is
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Speaker 1: what we think it is. The Ivory Tower can be
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Speaker 1: quite homicidal, fidal and aggressive. In my academic institute, it
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Speaker 1: was a non medical psychoanalytic institute, and I introduced the
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Speaker 1: idea that maybe some patients who were depressed should be
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Speaker 1: on medication rather than in psychoanalysis. They argued with me
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Speaker 1: for three years before passing my dissertation on the subject,
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Speaker 1: just because it was a new idea, but it was
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Speaker 1: really a recycled old idea. So these are not always
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Speaker 1: friendly pit places, Nancy. You know, they cut throat nature
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Speaker 1: advancement getting that tenure. I mean I also taught for
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Speaker 1: nine years at the college level to doctor Kendall Crowns,
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Speaker 1: who was currently teaching at University Texas and Texas A
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Speaker 1: and M also the chief medical Examiner Tyrant County and
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Speaker 1: Fort Worth. Never a lack of business there, doctor Kendall Grounds.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's cut throat to get tenure, that is
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Speaker 1: very true. I mean my bad log a professor, and
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Speaker 1: it was always publish or parish, so you know, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: people stealing your ideas to try and get ahead, and
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Speaker 1: it was just it is cutthroat and it's unfortunate. So
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Speaker 1: do you, Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, explain what is tenure? Well, actually,
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Speaker 1: it's a great question because I actually moonlight as a
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Speaker 1: lecturer at my local college, at my local college, and
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Speaker 1: it really is when you attain a permanent post as
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Speaker 1: a teacher, as a professor. It is that that level
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Speaker 1: of permanency that many academics viye for, which would explain
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Speaker 1: some of the competitiveness that the other guests are talking about.
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Speaker 1: It really does get to be cutthroat when you only
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Speaker 1: have so many tenured positions and many qualified candidates to dominate.
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Speaker 1: Pole joining us from the Greenfield Recorder Dominic. What college
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Speaker 1: was it? It was Mount Holio College. Wow. Pretty famous institution,
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Speaker 1: Mount Holio. I'm wow. And what had Lourette Savoy been teaching?
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Speaker 1: She was a professor of environmental studies in geology. Wow.
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Speaker 1: Do you know was she up for tenure or was
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Speaker 1: she tenured? Yes, she was tenured. In fact, she was
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Speaker 1: the David B. Truman Professor of Environmental Studies. Wow. And
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Speaker 1: that's I think an endowment, the Truman Yes Chair. In
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Speaker 1: other words, they pay that professor a bonus or they
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Speaker 1: pay their whole salary because they are very, very valued. Wow,
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Speaker 1: this woman no idiot by far, Lurette Savoy. So how
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Speaker 1: does she end up being attacked with garden shears, a
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Speaker 1: fire poker, a rock? Was someone trying to rip her
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Speaker 1: eyes out of the socket? Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: cut one bee from our friends at crime Online. Laurent
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Speaker 1: Savoy is rushed to a local hospital with severe blunt
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Speaker 1: force trauma. She has multiple broken bones and fractures in
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Speaker 1: her face, including a broken nose and a broken orbital
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Speaker 1: bone that's one of the bones that surrounds the eye.
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Speaker 1: There were numerous cuts and puncture wounds on Savoy's head
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Speaker 1: and face, resulting insignificant blood loss, and there was evidence
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Speaker 1: medical personnel say indicating that the assailant had tried to
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Speaker 1: gouge out the victim's eyes. Okay, gouging out eyes. I
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Speaker 1: need to go to two people on this, two experts,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, and I need to go to doctor
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Speaker 1: Kendall Crown see chief Medical Examiner and Tyrant County Fort Worth. Okay,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, here's my experience with eye gauging. Familiar with
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Speaker 1: the case that was worked in my office, the Fulton
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Speaker 1: County District Attorney's office, Inner City, Atlanta, where a victim
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Speaker 1: was murdered and her eyes were gouged out. Then the
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Speaker 1: part was arrested. He was missing an eye. He had
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Speaker 1: to be straight jacketed behind bars because he was caught
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Speaker 1: trying to pull out his other eye. Now, if the
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Speaker 1: jury couldn't put together two plus two, who killed this
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Speaker 1: woman in gouge out her eyes? I don't know who
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Speaker 1: can they did convict. By the way, doctor Bethany, that's
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Speaker 1: not just killing somebody to gouge out their eyes as
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Speaker 1: a whole. Another level of evil. And I'm sure you
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Speaker 1: have an opinion. What is it? Well, the idea of
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Speaker 1: gouging out eyes as prominent in literature and mythology. Nursissus
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Speaker 1: falls into the pool because he's gazing at himself. But
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Speaker 1: according to one theory, he's trying to gouge out his
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Speaker 1: own eyes because he doesn't want to see himself accurately.
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Speaker 1: If you watch the Squid Games theories, one of the
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Speaker 1: contestants in the Squid Games has her eyes surgically removed.
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Speaker 1: Happens to be a woman, of course, not a man.
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Speaker 1: I tend to think that when a perpetrator wants to
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Speaker 1: gouge out the eyes of the victim, they don't want
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Speaker 1: the victim to see what they are doing. There's something
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Speaker 1: about the all seeing, all discerning eyes that have to
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Speaker 1: first be removed before the aggressive attack on the victim.
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Speaker 1: It leads me to the eyes are the mirror into
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Speaker 1: the soul. And it also leads me, of course that's
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Speaker 1: on an English literature note, but it leads me to
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Speaker 1: who is my part? I can tell you this much, Lisa, Daddy,
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Speaker 1: I farm employees, Lieutenant new Haven, this is not a
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Speaker 1: random attack. A random attack, you want to go in
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Speaker 1: and you want to burgle our eyes the place, you
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Speaker 1: want to rape her, you want to steal her pocketbook.
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna sit around and waste time. You kill,
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Speaker 1: rape or steal, and then you leave, no hanging around
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Speaker 1: to remove somebody's eyeballs. Yeah, that's correct. I mean, typically,
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Speaker 1: like you said, Nancy, you go in, you commit the
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Speaker 1: crime or crimes that you set out to do, and
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Speaker 1: then you leave so that you don't get caught and
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Speaker 1: you know, people don't see everything, or you know, risk
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Speaker 1: all of that. And yet in this case, the victim
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Speaker 1: was brutalized for hours. It seems to me with all
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Speaker 1: the attacks on her, straight out to you, doctor Kendall,
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Speaker 1: Crown's Chief Medical Examiner, Tarrant County. What does that mean?
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Speaker 1: What do her injury? First of all, tell me about
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Speaker 1: her injuries, the injuries to Lourette Savoy, So she had
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Speaker 1: multiple injuries, cuts, stab, wounds, fracture, the versus skull and
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Speaker 1: what it knows. There's a variation in the objects that
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Speaker 1: are used. There's a rock, there's a fire poker, and
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Speaker 1: garden shears. So with the sharp force injuries, you know
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Speaker 1: you have the garden shears. The blunt force injuries is
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Speaker 1: going to be the rock and the fire poker. Often
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Speaker 1: with the blunt force injuries, when people beat someone with
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Speaker 1: an object, they don't instantly incapacitate them, so they often
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Speaker 1: will switch up to a sharp object to try and
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Speaker 1: stab them to the the fractures of a skull, the
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Speaker 1: orbital plate fractures that are described. The orbital plate is
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Speaker 1: basically around your eyeball and it's kind of thin, so
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Speaker 1: if she's hit in that area, causes fractures that can
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Speaker 1: cause brain injury, etc. So, but none of the injuries
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Speaker 1: that are described are necessarily lethal. But in combination they
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Speaker 1: would have eventually ended up in our death. But they're
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Speaker 1: all very debilitating and crippling. Just they gauging the eyes out,
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Speaker 1: they tend to pull her eyes out of her skull.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what it means psychologically, but
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Speaker 1: to a jury that will mean a lot and the pain,
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Speaker 1: the pain inflicted on the victim. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our cut one A State troopers arrive at Laurent Savoy's
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Speaker 1: home just after midnight. They find the acclaimed author lying
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Speaker 1: in a pool of blood on the floor. Had they
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Speaker 1: been severely beaten about the hidden face by savoye Side
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Speaker 1: is her friend of fourteen years and a colleague at
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Speaker 1: Mount Hoolio College, art professor RhI Haccianagi. It was Hoccianagi
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Speaker 1: who called nine one one. She tells police she and
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Speaker 1: Savoy had plans to meet around eleven PM. Hoccianagi reported
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Speaker 1: seeing signs of a struggle in the home when she
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Speaker 1: found her friend in the fourier, barely breathing. Savoy, who
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Speaker 1: was still conscious, tells police she cannot offer any information
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Speaker 1: on the person who attacked her, not even gender, as
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Speaker 1: she lost her glasses during the assault. Troopers searched the
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Speaker 1: property and immediate area, but no suspect is found, so
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Speaker 1: as it were. When she could still speak, she stated
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Speaker 1: that she could not identify her attack or having lost
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Speaker 1: her glasses. And that's a whole other level, Wendy Patrick.
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Speaker 1: Who would attack a female professor who can't see without
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Speaker 1: her glasses? That's exactly right. You know, you start thinking
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Speaker 1: it was a student, was it a competitor, was it
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Speaker 1: just a random attack, a home invasion? Was anything missing?
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Speaker 1: And you just start going through a list of suspects,
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Speaker 1: and most female professors I know couldn't identify who would
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Speaker 1: want to do something so brutal and vicious. So that's right.
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Speaker 1: It becomes a big mystery when you have someone like
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Speaker 1: this attack so viciously. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace check
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Speaker 1: listen to our cut one our friends at Court TV.
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Speaker 1: My name is Riccianaki. I've taught here at Mount Holyoke
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Speaker 1: for five years. That was beloved professor and current chair
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Speaker 1: of the Mount Holyoake Art Studio in a two thousand
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Speaker 1: ninety video. On Christmas Eve of twenty nineteen, Howgianaki called
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Speaker 1: nine one from the home of a fellow Mount Holyoke professor,
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Speaker 1: A longtime friend of hers. She stated that she found
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Speaker 1: her friend lying on the floor of the residents, barely breathing,
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Speaker 1: semi conscious, and with a head injury. The officer who
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Speaker 1: responded to the call found the victim and missus Hodgianaki
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Speaker 1: lying together on the floor, but Hadgianaki told the trooper
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Speaker 1: that there were signs of a struggle in the house.
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Speaker 1: The victim told the trooper that she did not know
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Speaker 1: the gender or any other identifying descriptions for the alleged suspect.
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Speaker 1: To Dominant Polige joining me hreporter with the Greenfield Recorder.
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Speaker 1: You can find him on Facebook. The Recorder newspaper. Dominic
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Speaker 1: tell me about her home? Was that an apartment? Was
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Speaker 1: it freestanding? Was it a condo? Who had access to it?
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Speaker 1: It was it was just a prestanding home in Leverett,
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Speaker 1: And you refer to that as an ideal at New
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Speaker 1: England home area. But what about her neighborhood. It's it's
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Speaker 1: very sparsely populated. The entire town is, so it's very
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Speaker 1: sparsely populated. Dominant, yes, which really rules down not out,
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Speaker 1: but rules down random crime because he's going to drive out.
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Speaker 1: There's there's really no such thing as foot traffic there.
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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty much just all winding roads and wilderness.
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Speaker 1: To doctor Bethany Marshall, have you ever encountered a crime
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Speaker 1: victim that couldn't make an identification because they didn't want
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Speaker 1: to make a identification psychologically, they didn't want to think
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Speaker 1: about it, so they couldn't make an id Well, we
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Speaker 1: see this in domestic violence all the time. Right. One
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Speaker 1: person feels very threatened their spouse, their intimate partner, because
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Speaker 1: we know all about intimate partner violence, is aggressing against them,
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Speaker 1: stocking them, calling their boss at work, threatening them at home.
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Speaker 1: It finally escalates to the point where they have to
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Speaker 1: call the police. But once the police get there, the
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Speaker 1: loyalty and the guilt sets in, and then they are
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Speaker 1: so reliable to identify their most beloved person as the
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Speaker 1: purpose all the time. Devini Polie wasn't she attacked from behind?
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Speaker 1: Initially she was, That's how the attack started. She it
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Speaker 1: was very late at night and she heard something sort
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Speaker 1: of in the shadows outside the back door of her home,
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Speaker 1: and she called out to see who it was. When
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Speaker 1: law horsemen arrived, they find her near death. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: she says she cannot identify her attack or but take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at court TV our cut
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Speaker 1: Two hours later at the hospital, the victim told police
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Speaker 1: that Professor Hodgianaki was the one who attacked her. The defendant,
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Speaker 1: who was at the time a friend of the victim,
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Speaker 1: comes to the house, uses a pretense to get into
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Speaker 1: the house and then attacks attacks her upon entry with
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Speaker 1: anything that she can find. She beats her in the
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Speaker 1: head with a rock. She attacks her and punctures her
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Speaker 1: face with garden scissors. She beats her with a poker.
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Speaker 1: The victim told police that Professor Hodgianaki had shown up
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Speaker 1: on the deck of her residence and told the victim
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Speaker 1: that she really missed her and wanted to talk with
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Speaker 1: her about feelings. Once Professor Hodgianaki was inside, according to
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Speaker 1: the victim, she began hitting her repeatedly in the head.
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Speaker 1: In a statement to police, the victim says Hygienaki told
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Speaker 1: her the attack was because Hygienaki had loved her for
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Speaker 1: many years and that she should have known. She should
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Speaker 1: have known. Listen, when a work friend shows up on
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Speaker 1: your patio at midnight wanting to talk about feelings, that
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Speaker 1: is very unusual. There was no relationship between these two.
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Speaker 1: They were not lovers, nothing secret, nothing just work. Friends.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut one see our friend
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Speaker 1: at crime online. At the Hospital Laart, Savoy tells police
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Speaker 1: that she'd lied out of fear about losing her glasses
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Speaker 1: and about who her attacker was. It was her longtime
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Speaker 1: friend rih Hachienagi. Savoy says. The woman turned up at
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Speaker 1: her home, which she had never been to before, unannounced.
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Speaker 1: On the premise needing to talk to her about her
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Speaker 1: feelings and a failed relationship, Savoy invited her in, and
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Speaker 1: as they walked away from the door, Hoccianagi attacked her
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Speaker 1: from behind. The art professor had come to the home
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Speaker 1: to admit her feelings for Savoy. The attack on Savoy
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Speaker 1: lasted for four hours, with Hoccianagi using multiple implements in
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Speaker 1: the attack, including fists, rocks, garden clippers, and a fire
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Speaker 1: poker and more. From our friends at crime Online Cut
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Speaker 1: one day, Savoy tells police she remembers being hit again
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Speaker 1: and again and again. At one point, Hodgianagi straddled the
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Speaker 1: victim on the floor and continued punching her. When Savoy
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Speaker 1: asked why she was doing this, Hodgianaki said she loved
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Speaker 1: the author for many years and she should have known.
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Speaker 1: Savoy says she was taunted by Hoccianagi during the four
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Speaker 1: hour attack, saying that she would be blinded, disfigured, and
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Speaker 1: then murdered, and at one point saying that because there
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Speaker 1: was so much blood loss that Savoy didn't have long
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Speaker 1: to live. Voice says she thought she was going to die.
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Speaker 1: To Dominic Poli joining us from the Greenfield Recorder, Dominic,
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Speaker 1: what happened? Laurette had no idea this female, professor ree
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Speaker 1: Haccianagi was obsessed with her. Yes, that's correct. The first
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Speaker 1: time any type of feelings toward one another were brought up,
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Speaker 1: and it is as far as Professor Savoy is concerned,
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Speaker 1: completely out of the blue. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friends a crime online Our cut one E. Savoy says
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Speaker 1: she tried to get Hagianachi to stop beating her by
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Speaker 1: saying she loved her. It took some time, but she
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Speaker 1: was able to play along, begging Haccianagi to let her
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Speaker 1: go and call nine one one. With Haggi Andachi convinced
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Speaker 1: there was hope for a relationship, the two women hatched
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Speaker 1: a plan to tell police that someone else had beaten
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Speaker 1: Savoy Savoy tells police while still in her home that
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Speaker 1: she has no idea who her attacker is. Haggi Andachi
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Speaker 1: tells police she is covered in blood from trying to
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Speaker 1: help her friend. Finally, around four AM, safe in the hospital,
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Speaker 1: Savoy tells police the truth. Haggianachi is arrested about seven
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Speaker 1: AM near Savoy's home with the victim's keys, cell phone,
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Speaker 1: and glasses. On her crime stories with Nancy Grace take
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Speaker 1: a Listen again to our Friends a crime online Our
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Speaker 1: cut one E. Savoy says she tried to get Haggianachi
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Speaker 1: to stop beating her by saying she loved her. It
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Speaker 1: took some time, but she was able to play along,
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Speaker 1: begging Hacci and Nagi to let her go and call
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Speaker 1: nine one one. With Haggianachi convinced there was hope for
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Speaker 1: a relationship, the two women hatched a plan to tell
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Speaker 1: police that someone else had beaten Savoy. Savoy tells police
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Speaker 1: while still in her home that she has no idea
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Speaker 1: who her attacker is. Haggi Andachi tells police she is
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Speaker 1: covered in blood from trying to help her friend. Finally,
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Speaker 1: around four AM, safe in the hospital, Savoy tells police
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Speaker 1: the truth. Haggianachi is arrested about seven am near Savoy's
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Speaker 1: home with the victim's keys, cell phone, and glasses on her. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, this is right up your alley. Hit me, oh,
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Speaker 1: NANCYA definitely is. It seems that Haggianachi obviously used the
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Speaker 1: word fast. Well, we think of stalking, and you've heard
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Speaker 1: me say this so many times. In stalking relationships, the
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Speaker 1: perpetrator feels that there's a unique and special relationship with
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Speaker 1: the victim, even when there is no evidence to support that.
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Speaker 1: So yagi Andachi was obsessed with the boy boy I
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Speaker 1: felt herself to be in loved with her. So what
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Speaker 1: happens as it sets up a cycle where the perpetrator
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Speaker 1: continually feels rejected by the victim because the victim has
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Speaker 1: no idea that the other person's in love with them.
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Speaker 1: But you might ask yourself, why would a professor with
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Speaker 1: such high standing launch such a vicious attack? I mean,
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Speaker 1: how could she pass in everyday light life as a
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Speaker 1: professor with a person, as a person with good mental
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Speaker 1: health when obviously she's so disturbed. And can you think
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Speaker 1: of Lisa Noac remember the astrona. Yes, all the way
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Speaker 1: across the country, an adult guy first to attack her
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Speaker 1: love rival. Okay, so when the guy okay, so the
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Speaker 1: love object had totally broken up with her. Yes. So
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Speaker 1: you have these high functioning women, and because they're academics,
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Speaker 1: they have a veneer of sophistication that lends the public
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Speaker 1: to believe that they can never be so sinister and
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Speaker 1: so disturbed. And when that veneer cracks, all the aggression
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Speaker 1: comes out. To Dominic Poli joining us from the Greenfield Recorder.
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Speaker 1: Now I hear doctor Bethany Marshall going on and on
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Speaker 1: and on, and I liked every word you said. I
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Speaker 1: just didn't agree with some of it, Doctor Bethany. She
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Speaker 1: made it sound like they defendant in this case, another
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Speaker 1: female professor, had some sort of a mental disability. I
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Speaker 1: call it rage and rejection, and she sought revenge. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen again to our fransa a court TV Professor
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Speaker 1: Hydrinaki is now facing six charges, including assault with intent
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Speaker 1: to kill. The defendant, who was at the time a
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Speaker 1: friend of the victim, comes to the house, um uses
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Speaker 1: a pretense to get into the house and then attacks her.
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Speaker 1: Attacks her upon entry with anything that she can find.
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Speaker 1: She beats her in the head with a rock. She
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Speaker 1: attacks her and punctures her face with garden scissors. She
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Speaker 1: beats her with a poker. The motive that I love you,
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Speaker 1: therefore I have to kill you doesn't doesn't make sense,
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Speaker 1: and it continues to not make sense. That was the
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Speaker 1: first question. When the defendant was attacking the victim and
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Speaker 1: the victim world over onto her back, was the victim
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Speaker 1: looked at the defendant and said, why the allegation is
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Speaker 1: that is that the defendant did this. There's no doubt
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Speaker 1: that the victim's orbital bones were broken. There's no doubt
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Speaker 1: that the victim received multiple stitches to try and and
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Speaker 1: put her face back together. The punctures to the victims,
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Speaker 1: to the the tissue surrounding the victim's eyes from the
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Speaker 1: gardening scissors are horrified. Also after Indictmond made aware of
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Speaker 1: another allegation. A few years, crun of a former colleague
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Speaker 1: of the defendants, was subject to what she describes as
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Speaker 1: harassment on the part of the defendant, and speaking with
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Speaker 1: counsel for the college, the council affirmed that this kind
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Speaker 1: of antagonism was present, but wasn't really able to go
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Speaker 1: into detail and wasn't able to turn over the records
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Speaker 1: of documenting that without without a subpoena. The victim told
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Speaker 1: police that during the attack, she thought she was going
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Speaker 1: to die, and she says she survived by playing along
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Speaker 1: with miss Hodgianaki and convincing her to call nine one
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Speaker 1: one for help. Professor Hodgianaki has pled not guilty to
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Speaker 1: the attack. So where does the case stand now? Dominic Polly?
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Speaker 1: The Professor Urihachi Nai has been sent to ten to
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Speaker 1: twelve years in Franklin County House of Correction. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our cut seventeen from Crime Online. Laurence Savoy
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Speaker 1: tells a court that after her attack, which she calls torture,
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Speaker 1: she still has not healed and probably never will. Savoy
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Speaker 1: says she suffered nerve damage to her face, two of
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Speaker 1: her fingers no longer work. She also has trouble sleeping,
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Speaker 1: suffering nightmares and headaches daily. Savoy also says she has
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Speaker 1: suffered financially. Insurance has not covered all her medical bills
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Speaker 1: and post traumatic stress disorder therapy. Security in her home
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Speaker 1: has had to be upgraded for her to feel safe.
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Speaker 1: Savoy says she has also lost significant income since she
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Speaker 1: has not been able to return to teaching and has
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Speaker 1: had to turn down at least thirty professional opportunities since
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Speaker 1: the attack, and that in itself has been difficult for
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Speaker 1: this acclaimed author. Laurent Savoy is the winner of Mount
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Speaker 1: Holio College's Distinguished Teaching Award and an Andrew Carnegie Fellowship.
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Speaker 1: She has held fellowships from the Smithsonian Institute and Yale University.
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Speaker 1: Her book Trace, Memory, History, Race, and the American Landscape
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Speaker 1: won the twenty sixteen American Book Club Award from Before
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Speaker 1: Columbus Foundation and the twenty seventeen Aslie Creative Writing Award.
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Speaker 1: It was also a finalist for the Pan American Book
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Speaker 1: Award and Philli Sweetley Book Award. It was also shortlisted
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Speaker 1: for the William Saroyan International Prize for Writing and the
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Speaker 1: Orion Book Award. Let's listen to Savoy speaking about her
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Speaker 1: book Trace to the twenty sixteen Brattleborough Literary Festival. Race
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Speaker 1: began in my struggle to answer or come to terms
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Speaker 1: with questions that have haunted me since childhood. Questions like
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Speaker 1: these in each of our lives is an instant, like
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Speaker 1: a camera shutter that opens and loadses. What can we
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Speaker 1: make of our place in the world for that instant
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Speaker 1: our latent image, and then over time, over generations, what
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Speaker 1: do accumulated instance mean? The book grew to become a
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Speaker 1: mosaic of personal journeys and historical inquiry across the continent
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Speaker 1: and time, trying to understand, or at least explore, how
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Speaker 1: this country's still unfolding history has marked the land, has
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Speaker 1: marked the society, and marks an individual because the voice
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Speaker 1: as the health issues she has suffered since the attack
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Speaker 1: all came about because her friend thought she would get
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Speaker 1: away with murder. Well she didn't. And this poor woman,
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Speaker 1: Lauret Savoy must be on pins and needles because if
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Speaker 1: the is sentenced to nine or ten years, she'll be
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Speaker 1: out in three. That gives her three years behind bars
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Speaker 1: to stew and fester about the one that got away.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's Crime Story, signing off, Goodbye friend,