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Our Picks for the Top Father-Focused Films! | Red Chill Cinema · Honey Badger Radio

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Hello everybody, and welcome honey badge a radio. My name is Brian.
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I'm here with Alison and this is uh well, it's a red chill cinema.
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We haven't done one since we did Men and that feels like forever ago.
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So on this red Chill Cinema, we're going to be doing something a
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little different. Um, because Father's Day is coming up, like I think
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it's next month or something, so I guess we're just we're a little ahead
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of that. Every day's Father's Day. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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I forgot. We live in a patriarchy. Every Father's Day well, you
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know, but we we could because we are pro patriarchy. That is,
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we actually care about whether or not things benefit men, not necessarily to the
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exclusion of women. But just just consider that as a thing to think about.
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Yeah, we could make Father's Day every day every day of the year,
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and we could have a double double Father's Day on what is it the
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was it the second Sunday of of my of May? Why not? Wait?
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Oh, you mean like the day after tomorrow? Or no, no,
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no, no, it is the second the second Sunday of isn't isn't
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like Mother's Day? Like the second Sunday of Yeah, it is, it
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is. Oh, so you're saying that could be another Father's Day. Yeah,
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we could have a double Father's Day. This is like a belated empire
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strikes back. A Father's Day, the second one, Father's Day the second.
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Yeah, we'll have it the second, the second Sunday of every every
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May, and we can celebrate all of the men who have fought to be
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in their children's lives and all of the men who've raised their children despite uh
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the secondary partner. Yeah, despite the existence of the secondary partner. Yeah,
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all right, Okay, So before we we're gonna be doing today,
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guys, is we're gonna be looking at a couple of movies that have a
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very like good um father and child old relationship or something along those you know,
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like around those lines. So it's basically celebrating fathers. The films may
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not like specifically be about fathers. I may not like make that a point,
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but you might find a really good relationship or a good model of a
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father and child relationship for example. So yeah, with that said, though,
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I think Alison has some feeling to do, so go ahead and speel
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away. Are you caught me in the middle of the sneeze. Okay,
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dot Com slash just the Tip. All right, Okay, so we're gonna
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get into it's okay, So these films are in no particular order. I
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didn't rank them because first of all, it's going to create a flame war
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in the comments, and I'm probably going to be the subject of most of
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the flames because everybody's got different opinions, so instead we're just looking at just
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trying not to think of them as a list. There in no particular order.
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They're just good examples, and they're films that I have seen either like
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way back when they first came out or uh, you know, I've I've
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seen them on like multiple times. And let me know if you guys have
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seen any of these, I will put ahead of a warning. I'm going
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to be showing some clips with these, and some of them will likely contain
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some kind of spoiler, So if you don't want to be spoiled, maybe
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I'll warn you before I play the clip and then you can like you know,
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but most of these films are pretty old. They've been around for a
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while, so hopefully you've seen them by now or you decided whether or not
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you want to. So anyway, first we're gonna start with Alison's primary recommendation.
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Wrong, Sorry that was Okay, here we go. First, we're
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gonna start with Alison's first recommendation, which is film BYLKA Studios called Cubo and
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the Two Strings. Now, LIKEA is, they're really great company. They
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do amazing work. The only downside is is that they work in stop motion
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animation, and I mean, like it's on a whole other level. But
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because of that, it takes them a very long time to make a film,
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and I think it costs them a lot of money, and they're not
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like as successful as say a Pixar or Disney, so it kind of you
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know, they end up not making a lot of movies, but they're really
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good, like just real quick. I love Para Norman. That's probably one
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of my favorites. And they did Coraline, which a lot of people know
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and box trolls, but this one, Kubo the Two Strings, is like
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it's probably like their best one. So Alison, why do you pick this
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one? Well? I actually picked this one because not only does it have
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a really nice relationship between the father and the son, which it's it's quite
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tragic when you watch it, but at the same time it's nice. They
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had a point where the father and how his style of raising his son was
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in conflict with the mother's style of raising his son and raising the son,
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and they didn't do the usual thing of saying the father was wrong, the
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in fact implied or showed that in this particular situation, the father was right.
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In how he approached the child's the cubo's upbringing in this case, that
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the mother was very much wanting to protect her son from any possible danger,
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whereas the father wanted to expand his horizons and allow him to challenge himself.
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Yeah, and they actually presented the father as correct as opposed to the mother,
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which I sort of is a little bit surprising. It's it's not,
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it's not. I wouldn't say that it's necessarily controversial, and yet it seems
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like it is. Now this idea that the way that men do things has
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a value in another itself, even when it comes to raising children, The
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way that men approach problems, the way that men approach relationships with each other,
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the way that men approach goals, like that masculine way of thinking and
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acting has a value and in particular has a value when it comes to raising
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children, which seems to be a really, really controversial concept. And yet
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it's also obvious because the single most if there is any finding in sociology that
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has been consistent and incontrovertible, it's that not having fathers, children not raised
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by fathers with fathers in the home do not do significantly worse than children who
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are raised just by mothers, they do significantly worse and in any normal like,
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if we were really following the science in terms of that, we wouldn't
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have any debate about it at all. In fact, we would be putting
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in place some kind of measures to make fatherlessness illegal. Yeah, and I
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don't mean like in other words, we would make it so that women cannot
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break the bond between a father and a child. They just can't. They
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legally can't. And the only time that the bond between a father and a
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child is broken is when they can prove to a criminal standard that that father
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is an immediate danger to his child. And we don't have that as a
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as a result of these sociology, these findings in sociology, and this is
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what like I said, this is what this is. I think this might
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be the strongest finding in sociology. Like everything else might be is like a
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little bit of cause, you know, you could say this, you could
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say that everything else has a bit of wiggle room. This doesn't have any
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wiggle room. This is black and white, black and white. There may
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be there are no exceptions, in my opinion, or if there are exceptions,
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they are vanishingly rare. But what really is when they say, well
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all women are single mothers, they still raise, Yeah, they still raise,
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they can they I mean they don't all raise serial killers, so it
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can come out okay, But in general, you take the same child with
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a father in his home, in a home helping raise him, you are
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going to see significantly better outcomes no matter what. And I know they try
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to they try to wiggle room with like, oh, there's fathers that are
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uh uh, there are a detriment. I don't think that that's actually been
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a finding that's very strong. No, I mean sure again, if you're
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the father that you've had a child with as a serial killer, then that
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might be an issue. Yeah, generally, it's not like you have to
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ask why did she have children with this man? So you know, I'm
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not saying it's because every time. But the thing is is that like,
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yeah, I mean a bad man should be less likely to sire children,
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but um, that's not the case. Comes back to like, what what
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do women reward with? Well, I mean statistically they they if if if
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young men are in as disadvantage community where they can't find a way of having
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an income and being productive financially, statistically, they are better off going out
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and killing another man in terms of having reproductive access. That's horrible. Um
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And it's and usually that is also very much associated with fatherless homes. Yeah,
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and communities that do not encourage or enforce fatherhood and don't allow fathers to
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be removed from their families on the whims of other people, um, from
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their children's lives, on the wims of other people. But anyway, that
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seems to be a really controversial statement. People will not allow you to say
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that, even though sociology. Once again, this is I think this is
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the most um solid finding in sociology, is that fatherless children well have worse
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outcomes. That's yeah. And we're going to see the that um, that
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thing that you're saying, that supposedly non controversial thing is actually a It seems
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to be a theme in these in the in the films I chose. So
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let's start with this. I'm gonna give you a quick summary. So,
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like Cubo is basically a hero's journey. The main character is named is Cubo.
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He's a young boy whose life has been shrouded in darkness. Um.
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He it's it's sort of he has this um quota, I think his caller.
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He has it's like a guitar, but you know, a lute,
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but it's Japanese and uh it only has two strings. And he is on
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a quest with a monkey and a beatle who's like a beatle man, you
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know, and they're gonna help him find these three pieces of armor to protect
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him from his grandfather, who stole one of his eyes so that he wouldn't
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um be, so he would be blind to humanity. It's it's it's very
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fairy tale esque, but it's really well done. I don't want to give
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too much away. A spoiler. Huh Can I give a spoiler? A
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spoiler about the monkey and the beetle. Yeah, there's there's a reason why
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I pointed to this particular scene and said that it's the father and son.
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Um you know what, I'll leave it at that. I'll let you guys
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watch the movie to find out why I say that. So the scene I
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picked here, the beetle, who is said to have been um rained buy
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Cubo's father as a student of his, is teaching Cubo how to fish.
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So I'm gonna go ahead and play this scene. I I might have to
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pause in the middle. It's only like a minute, you'll have to pause.
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Yeah, okay, Now take a deep breath, clear your mind because
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I got that bart covered. Now draw back slowly at it. Close one
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eye because you've got that bart covered. All right. I'm just pausing it
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there for the banana. Um so yes, yes, so just so you
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know, Cubo is missing an eye because his grandfather took it from him.
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That's why he's wearing an eye patch. And the Beatle has no memory.
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That's why he's saying, like, clear mind, it's not a problem for
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me. So mhm um. Okay, maybe I shouldn't spoil, don't forget
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this stop motion. Okay, yeah, this is and this is actually incredible
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in and of itself. Yeah to see. Okay, let's keep going directly
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in front of you and let everything else fall away. Really perfect shot,
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perfect shot, not bad, and once your plan for getting the fish into
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the boat so we can actually okay, all right, we just had to
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stop. I know, I know, it's been twenty seconds. I've been
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tracking it. Yeah, and uh, I'm just wondering. I like that
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I'm sitting on this and I don't know if if I should say it.
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Well, you know spoilers. Guys, are you okay with spoilers? Have
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you seen Kubo in the two Strings? Because well, I will say,
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is there's a reason why I'm showing this scene. That's huh in the context
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of fatherhood. Yeah, in the context of fatherhood. Um, and I
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do think it's good. So there's uh, well, some people don't mind
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it seems um. I I would watch it. I think it's really I
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think it's really so. I think we've given you enough to go. Yeah,
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I think so. Should I tell him no, let's let's watch it.
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Watch it. If you have it, just just we'll we'll reiterate it.
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Okay, we are showing you this in the context of fatherhood of fatherhood,
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which is a spoiler. But well, I said, I was teaching
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him how to shoot, not fish. Fishing is tomorrow's lesson. Give me
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that grabby monkey, now try it? Hm back and okay, we got
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wet a banana? Huh? We got a banana here? Yeah, I'm
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just saying we got a banana. Yeah, we gotta do the banana all
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right, the rope. It's pretty good idea and you're not an awful shot,
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Okay, so anyway, So so that's Kuba and the two strings.
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You Um, I'm not going to give anything away, but I would watch
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it, especially the ending. I mean, I you know, I was
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it was. I was so surprised at how unorthodox it was. Like it
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didn't do one not thought what an unorthodox and for a child's like a current
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day children's film. Yeah, I had a lot of a of a message.
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It was pretty sophisticated and dark like it there So I didn't mention this,
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but he's being hunted by his aunts, who are these twins, and
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they're really creepy. I mean, and you know you would. It's just
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it's it's really well done, that's all I will say. So. And
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it contends with issues of mark mortality, which seems to be really unusual today.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure, but it's it's a definite thumbs up
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for me, I think for Brian as well. Absolutely, Cubo is a
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really good is a really good movie, and you know, like it's it's
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not one of those children's movies that adults couldn't get into. Obviously, he
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just killed two fish, so that's so kind of edgy. Fish Fisher basically
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just mobile vegetables though. Yeah, yeah, that they they don't count.
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But you want to say what it was that before we do? You were
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the one who recommended Cubo to me. I did, Oh, I think
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I did a while ago. Yeah, well, I think it's m hmm.
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I think it's for the reasons you said, especially because they do show
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the differences between um, the Monkey and the Beatles, like sort of h
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parenting style, I guess you could say. And it's it's very appropriate.
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You know. It's not like one of them is always right and the old
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one's always wrong, so it's more like they have to learn to work together.
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M hmm. Okay, let's see the next one, all right.
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So next we got Finding Nemo, which I mean, what yeah, classic
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from when Disney actually wasn't told this is Pixar. But yeah, I get
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what you mean, Oh Pixar, that's right. Um. Yeah, So
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I think it's like it's a very you know, I used to years ago,
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I was dating this girl. She was living with me, and she
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didn't like to watch horror movies or anything too scary, but I love horror
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movies and we would sometimes we'd watch them and in order for her to like
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come down from the from the you know, from the horror movie. She
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would watch Finding Nemo, so we had the blue rays so that she could
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like recharge puppet. I mean. So anyway, I think that everybody's seen
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this movie, but you never know. So it's it's so this is funny
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Nemo. It's about there's a there's a clownfish named Marlin, and he has
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a son named Nemo, and his son was the last egg in like a
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hatch, right like there was like all the other eggs were killed and there
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was just this last one, including the mother I think, and that that
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egg was damaged. So Nemo came out with like a little like um like
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a fin that didn't that was really small and underdeveloped, so he couldn't swim
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as good as his you know, as a fish should anyway, So he's
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going to like fish school or something, and then something happens. Nemo ends
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up getting lost and so his father, Marlin, is on a quest to
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find his son, and that's basically it. It takes place in Australia and
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there's a lot of really great characters. Everybody talks about Dori personally, I
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like Bruce the Shark, but you know, because I think that it just
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handled a character really well. Um and oh and also the uh it's like
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some kind of tropical fish instiade of a bowl that's voiced by Willem Dafoe.
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Um do you do you guys know who I'm talking about? I mean I
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have a actually have a sound clip. Yes, Yes, that's the that's
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um his that's Nemo's mentor. Yes, sort of like his mentor. Yeah,
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which is actually a really good secondary as shark baitak, welcome brother shark
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bait. You know, no one's interesting about that whole scene where yeah,
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um, I'll just call him Dafoe fish. Uh, he initiates Nemo into
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this brotherhood. And it actually was based on tribal tribal initiations of young of
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boys into being men. And it had the whole the traditional like the female
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characters, including the starfish whose name was Pat I believe I think I remember
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that. Yeah, that's right. There was yeah, and they and they
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were like, he's just a boy, and he was taken away from them.
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It was like being initiating to a men's club or uh fend or something
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well not not actually specifically related to being tribal initiations manhood initiations. Um so
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to face something, to be taken away from the women, and to face
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something that you're afraid of as sort of a a clear marker between boyhood and
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manhood. Yeah, or face some kind of trial of endurance or pain.
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There's a scene flash Gordon where they do that on on the Prince Baron's planet
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or moon, if you know what I'm talking about. But even seen the
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flashboardon movie from like nineteen eighty, you know, with the Queen soundtrack.
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Anyway, No, it's not going to help. I said, no,
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well, you know it's it's you know, it's campy, but it's freaking
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awesome. That's all I'm gonna say. Maybe we should review that one.
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I think the flash Garden is fucking great. I love I love pulpy stuff.
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So all right, But anyway, so this scene is where Marlin finds
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Nemo. This is like the end, so or not not the end end,
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but like you know, towards the end. And Dori is the blue
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fish there, voiced by Ellen DeGeneres. I forget what the Marlin's character is,
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but he's like a known actor that's been around for a while. I
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just forget his name. Anyway, let's do it there watching those fish moves
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funny, all right, I'm just pausing it there for the banana. Um,
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so yeah, he basically Marlin was that the I guess the character development
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for the father and this is that in the beginning, because Nemo is the
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only surviving offspring, He's like, Marlin is super protective of his son,
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right like just to the point where, you know, uh, it leaves
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Nemo kind of vulnerable. He doesn't know about the world, his his father's
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just because he doesn't want to lose him is all he's got left. And
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even his uh, you know, his mate I think, also died.
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So so Nemo ends up, you know, Marlin has to find his son,
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and throughout his journey, um, he kind of uh, I think
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he learns something about like being able to let his kid kind of you know,
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find their way. And of course Nemo wanted that anyway, right,
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he wanted to go on a field trip or something, and that's kind of
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how all this started. So anyway, it's been a while, but let's
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keep going. That's the egg from from it's a memory. So that fish
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coughed. That's weird. I don't need you can you hear that. Okay,
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I'm so sorry. See that's his little gimpy fish. I'm having trouble
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here hearing it, right, I'm not sure. Bump it up a little
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bit because I think this video clip is low for some reason. Um,
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I can turn on the close captions. Oh it's gonna be in Spanish though,
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God damn it. All right, yeah, they have Spanish subtitles for
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this, this video clip I found. Mm hmm, guess what see true
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one and he was one hundred and fifty years old. Okay, I think
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we needed banana. Yeah, okay, so one hundred and fifty years old
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sea turtles. It's very it's a very tender scene. What was that,
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well, sea turtles are one hundred and fifty years old. Yeah, yeah
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that's what he said. Okay, yeah, it is a very tender scene.
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Yeah, Sandy Blankton. Do you think I would cross the entire ocean
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and not know as much as Sandy blank On? They live like hundreds and
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hundreds of years turtles, yeah, tortoises, yeah they do. Mm hm
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oh yeah I remember this. Yeah. So this is that where they get
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reunited. And I thought I thought it was good, but like the whole
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movie, is about a father, so you can't you can't like leave that
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one out. It's just it's kind of like it's kind of a no brainer
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fighting Nemo. But um, you know what I didn't get and I should
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have. I should have put this in list. I didn't. I didn't
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put the Incredibles, which is another really good yeah Pixar movie that features a
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father. But maybe we'll do that in the next we'll do another one maybe
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and yeah, yeah, well we'll keep doing this. Yeah, we'll keep
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doing these, So that's fine. Say anything else about this before I move
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on to the next one. Well, Father's Day is, um, like,
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do we'll do a month of Father's Day as well. Yeah, let's
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see, you know, because the twenty six, the twenty, the second,
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the ninth, and then the sixteenth. That would be one, two,
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three, four, well five, I guess I don't. Yeah,
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well we'll do this. We'll revisit this because it's a topic that deserves being
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discussed definitely, So I gotta yeah, I saw that. Well, it's
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it's just good to see. You know, what makes male characters interesting and
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it's pretty much only male characters now. Used to be that you'd have a
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lot of interesting and varied female characters. But ever since the rise of Woke
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Woke solusm whatever, I just call it critical consciousness because that's kind of what
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it's all like, feminism, all that stuff. It's all critical consciousness.
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Okay, Well, ever since the rise of that um, female characters are
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basically one dimensional and disinteresting, like, they don't have character arcs. There's
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no real perception of them as having any kind of agency, I mean real
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agency. People don't. People use the word agency, but I don't think
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they know what that word means. Yeah, it doesn't matter how powerful you
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are, if or how powerful you say you are, if your actions have
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no consequences that you have to take responsibility for. Agency is the consequences of
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your acts and you taking responsibility for them, and you being the consequences being
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ascribed to you. And that's what she don't see with female characters. You
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don't see a proper character arc because when they do something bad, especially something
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bad to men, it's always it's justified, so it can't be seen as
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a flaw. Like one of the one of the big things when you learn
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about how to write a character arc is there are there are flaws and then
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they're moral flaws. So a flaw might be being clumsy, or I don't
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having a scar, or having a limp or something. You know, those
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are might be physical flaws or flaws that really don't impact anybody but yourself.
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If you want to have a character arc, you need a moral flaw,
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which means you have to look at your character and ask yourself, how is
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she hurting other people? Now? You can? You can you if you're
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listening to this on this channel, you you you can. I can hear
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your gears turning over that already. How can you have a character arc for
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a female character if you cannot look at a female character and ask yourself,
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how is she hurting other people? Now? And here here's one of the
29:18
big problems with that, when when it comes to female characters, you have
29:22
your female character versus a male character. Right, you look at your female
29:26
character and you ask yourself, how is she hurting other people? Now?
29:30
For a female character, you have probably a much more restricted palette of harms
29:41
that you can recognize that she does, because you can't really work with harms
29:45
done to men because we don't we don't really exist in that universe. Yeah,
29:48
you know, we can't look at her in terms of how she treats
29:52
men as something that is negative, because generally, in current cinema, how
29:57
a woman treats men is excuse by oh, she was something or other in
30:02
her past by a man. Okay, it's never presented as a flaw of
30:07
the woman. It's always presented as a flaw of men. So all of
30:10
those consequences are deflected onto men. So the female character has how much that
30:17
you can do in terms of that kind of characterization, Well, it's at
30:19
least fifty percent restricted relative to male character. If you take the male character,
30:25
you can talk about how he harms men, you can talk about how
30:29
he harms children, you can talk about how he harms society, you can
30:32
talk about how he harms women. You can talk a lot about that.
30:36
Oh yeah, and you have a whole whole gigantic spectrum of potential moral flaws
30:44
to explore with men, which makes the gigantic tapestry of incredibly rich stories and
30:51
forms of characterization. And you go back to the woman, and what can
30:55
you really talk about? How much characterization can you really do? Must nun
31:00
comparatively, So it's like you go to the woman and it's basic like you
31:03
go to the man, it's a gigantic buffet. You go to a woman,
31:07
it's like a carrot stick. They're like, oh, that's great.
31:11
Um. And that's why male characters are more interesting, and that's why people
31:14
would rather they even when they're trying to like emasculate them, because they have
31:22
to give them flaws. It actually makes them more interesting, interesting and intriguing.
31:26
Yeah, they can make them, they can make them overcome something inside
31:33
themselves. Yeah, which is fascinated. Everybody loves that for sure. Honestly,
31:40
that is a fascinating thing to watch, is a character overcoming a moral
31:44
flaw that he has. So um, I mean look at look at the
31:48
example of Elma. All right, Okay, So the character that's the most
31:53
sympathetic and compelling and a lot of people notice this is Fred. Yeah,
32:00
because he actually has a is presented with a flaw, he starts to overcome
32:04
it and develop past it and he becomes a better person. It's like,
32:07
well, everybody likes watching that, and everybody's going to sympathize more with a
32:13
character who does that than a character who's presented as right from the very beginning,
32:16
especially as a character who is a complete another sociopath who's presented as right
32:22
in every conceivable circumstance, even when she is so absolutely wrong she should probably
32:29
be doing time. Okay, So Fred becomes the most intriguing, the most
32:35
interesting, and the most sympathetic character. And this is this is something that
32:37
you know, me and Brian have talked about. That's what happens in a
32:42
lot of these woke so called woke films, is that despite trying to minimize
32:47
the male though cishet male character, or even the gay or buy male character.
32:53
Is what I've noticed there, they are there. They are the straight
32:55
men of gay people. Um. You know, they will in trying to
33:02
minimize those characters, they will still make them the only interesting, rounded and
33:08
compelling characters in the entire work, because they cannot look at the other characters
33:15
and ask themselves, how is this person hurting someone in particular. It's difficult
33:20
in the framework where every character is there because they're a category of victimization.
33:25
They had been victimized in a certain way. That's diversity, right, you
33:29
get all you get all the victim could categories. Well, if you define
33:34
your character in terms of how they are a victim of others. It's extremely
33:37
difficult to then turn around and define them in terms of how they victimize others.
33:45
Ye see what I'm saying. You know you're you're working under deficits.
33:49
That's why, in every single circumstances that I've seen, these people who are
33:54
trying to create diversity manage to just create stories where the diversity characters end up
34:01
being a flat, uninteresting backdrop to the male characters, unless they really really
34:10
emasculate the male characters, and not just emasculate, just totally gut them,
34:15
like just turn them into scenery where they're not doing anything at all, including
34:20
not changing. Yeah, in which case they can make something unwatchable. So
34:28
I got two super chows. I want to read them and then we'll go
34:30
on to the next movie. Okay, so Ergo Proxy gives us five bucks
34:34
and says, a Goofy movie is a great father's son movie. The whole
34:37
thing is about how they clash with different goals and how they make up by
34:40
combining them into a great conclusion. And the music was composed with this in
34:45
mind too, featuring Michael Jackson. I've never seen a goofy movie. I'm
34:50
sorry, I'm maybe it was just a little I was a little too old
34:55
or something, but I never watched it, so maybe I should know it
35:00
was good. We could watch that, you could I could watch Um Flash
35:04
Gordon, okay and watch I wouldn't say Gordon was a fatherly movie, but
35:08
it's a it's a fun one, yeah, Goosey movie. There was another
35:13
movie that I was thinking that we should have put on this list, but
35:16
I do not remember the time. You know, maybe I'll come back or
35:19
maybe I already put it on. Maybe, yeah, actually I should review
35:22
that. It'll probably come back to me if I review. Yeah. Thank
35:25
thank you Ergo Proxy for the donation, and Meredith Ge gives us five dollars
35:30
and says Red Chill Cinema thanks for the cultural commentary. Thank you, Meredith.
35:34
There were two other ones. I don't they were from, like the
35:37
HBr talk yesterday. It doesn't say done afterwards, so I don't know if
35:39
you guys read them and just didn't put that in, or or if you
35:43
hadn't. But I'm gonna leave those there and maybe, like you know,
35:46
maybe if they haven't been done. Hannibal, I think they I think they
35:49
were done, but I'm not sure. The maintaining frame one was done.
35:52
Okay, I don't know who it was from. It was called maintaining Frame
35:55
forty nine commentator five dollars only. I oddly, like Allison's doomsday or a
36:00
method messages, I find a weird deense of peace when I hear it.
36:05
Thanks for the calming message. Well, I mean, at least you'll know
36:07
why, you know what I mean, at least it's not coming out of
36:12
left field. Um, you know, it's just I think it makes maybe
36:15
it makes more sense just to know that when a society decides to basically destroy
36:22
all human relationships, that society is likely to be doomed, you know.
36:28
And you know, we could stop doing that because we have pretty nice society.
36:31
But of course I don't know. I guess everybody wants to die now
36:36
because of the climate change stuff. Wow, I guess that's what we're doing,
36:40
is a species I will say. Well, I mean, you know,
36:45
to be honest, I don't know why, because when you look at
36:50
the whole all the numbers, you know, no offense. But the only
36:52
way they're going to reduce carbon is by getting rid of like what people.
36:58
Yeah, and I mean the people who are so concerned about this. Well,
37:00
they're not on that list obviously, no way. I mean, if
37:06
they think that human life is so worthless, why don't they just start with
37:08
themselves and then the rest of us can pick up. Well yeah, and
37:13
it gets worse than that. But like, I don't want to go down
37:15
that rabbit hole. But yeah, there it's it. This is genocidal thinking,
37:23
is all I'm gonna say. So anyway, Oh yeah, But honestly,
37:28
one of the things that I find um sort of like, yes,
37:30
it is genocidal thinking, and it's depressing. But on the other hand,
37:37
you know, it's almost something that we were going to inevitably have to deal
37:39
with because ever since World War One, we've got it in our gullet,
37:45
got it in our craw that you know, we can solve problems by killing
37:47
a lot of people. It just seems to be something that comes up over
37:51
and over again because it's like World War One became this kind of this kind
37:54
of deep psychological scar that we've been perpetuating throughout the general rations, and the
38:00
scar occasionally bubbles up, often bubbles up and says, you know, we're
38:05
having some issues with resources and our economy. Let's go kill like a whole
38:10
bunch of people. You know, let's I think that's that's what we need
38:15
to do. That is the solution, and I think it comes from that
38:20
from that original original genocide that started at all, which was World War One.
38:27
Almost entire generations of young men were gone. It's really horrific. But
38:31
let's let's let this is supposed to be positive. So well, yeah,
38:34
I was gonna say this is also a little off topic, but okay,
38:37
So next on the list, Um, this is from nineteen ninety eight.
38:42
It's called He Got Game. It's one of Spike Lee's movies. So now
38:45
we're not We're not gonna all of these are not going to be animated,
38:49
so don't worry if you're not into those kinds of things. Okay, Um,
38:53
this is a nineteen ninety eight drama of new hopes and second chances.
38:58
There is the care on the right is named Jesus Shuttlesworth. It's not the
39:02
Jesus. It's a Jesus. And I mean when I say thou Jesus,
39:07
I'm talking about the guy from The Big Lebowski obviously not the son of God.
39:13
The only son of Jake Shuttlesworth, Denzel Washington on the left. A
39:15
single father stuck in a New York penitentiary for the accidental killing of the mother
39:21
of his boy. Jake's bridgious talent for basketball could now secure his father in
39:27
early release from prison if he convinces him to sign for the prisons the prison
39:30
governor's preferred college team. And once you swallowed that admittedly far fetched premise,
39:35
you can savor Lee's raw and riveting portrayal of a father son relationship that becomes
39:38
strained beyond sanity. So the this is like the culmination of the movie where
39:46
they have a duel on the basketball court and the son, you know,
39:53
he knocks his death father down like to score a goal. And now they're
39:59
basically having an argument or an impassioned discussion. So I'm gonna play this clip.
40:05
Maybe you can stop hating me. I can bring your mother back.
40:08
Maybe we can stop being father by son again. Now, okay, Wenna,
40:12
my father, let me tell you something. You look out for yourself,
40:24
you look out for your sister. You ain't gotta worry about me.
40:25
No, I'm just pausing it there for the banana. Um, just so
40:31
we don't like it's it's a pretty like UM. I think it's a pretty
40:38
good movie. And it again. You know, you have this man,
40:44
the father. He finds himself unfortunately, you know, in prison for an
40:50
accidental um murder I guess or killing. And his son feels estranged and doesn't
40:59
want anything to do with him, and the father is just like I just
41:01
you know, you don't have to talk to me, We don't have to
41:05
be involved, but I want you to to, you know, do just
41:07
be a good man, be better than I was. Basically, did you
41:12
get that hat without your heart? Boy? Oh, you're gonna end up
41:15
just another nigga like your father, be monetized. Yeah. Well, I
41:23
mean Denzel said it. It's okay. I mean, like I didn't say
41:27
it. YouTube Denzel Washington said it show a ball. Well, Jack,
41:45
I think it's time for all of us to go back. So these are
41:49
the cops. They're basically gonna take him back to prison. The notice this
41:53
I forgot to mention over. I'm gonna point the guy with the glasses the
41:59
ball old black guy there, that's uh Jim Brown. He died today.
42:05
This guy, I don't if you guys know. He was a a football
42:08
player and then he did black sploitation films and then he was just an actor.
42:15
Um he's known for um well, I know him from movies like The
42:22
Running Man where he played like, um, I forget the Fireball. I
42:25
think he was like one of the hunters and he was in Mars Attacks playing
42:30
a kind of you know, not to his old black sploitation days. But
42:32
yeah, Jim Brown football player, very very famous guy. Uh and you
42:37
know, a pretty vocal like you know, after he retired, but yeah,
42:43
he passed away today. So rip Jim Brown. Well Jack, I
42:47
think it's time for all of us to go back. No no, j
43:13
all right. Um So, I know it's not showing a lot, but
43:21
I guess look at it like there's a man he wants to he's a father,
43:24
he wants to do what he can for his son. His son seems
43:29
to hate him, but he's going to do his best anyway. And I
43:32
guess this is sort of like speaking to the whole like thing about men want
43:37
to be involved with their children and sometimes it's the wife that keeps them away.
43:44
Sometimes there's other factors. Mistakes they made that you know, if they
43:50
had been women, they probably would have been forgiven. Yeah you know,
43:53
but so what was the conclusion of this is this the end of the film
43:59
war So okay. Jesus the son is surrounded by vultures keen to horn in
44:10
on his dependent keen to horn in on his impending success, while Jake stands
44:15
to win his life back. He is not one of them, so he's
44:19
not one of the people that's trying to pray on this. This young talented
44:22
basketball player who has actually played who was actually played by a basketball player named
44:27
Ray Allen. The pair's rival reculminates in a duel on the basketball court,
44:31
with each man effectively playing for his freedom. Although in pushing and goading his
44:36
offspring one last time, Jake is also invested in his own failure because it
44:39
means Jesus will have grown into the man he'd always hoped he would be.
44:45
Everything you got you got from me, Jake reminds him. But Jesus is
44:47
able to go further than his father ever could. It's a classic passing the
44:52
torch moment. But this film makes you feel the flames. So it's like,
44:59
like I said, father doesn't have access to his son, he doesn't
45:02
have his son's love, but he tries to his best to be a father
45:07
nonetheless, and um, and it does help the boy becomes like, you
45:14
know, a professional athlete and a star. So I think it's I think
45:21
it's very sweet because there's a lot of fathers you're just they don't have like
45:25
they're not involved. But you can even see then how important. At least
45:30
that's what Spike Lee was trying to say with this was that you know,
45:32
like even even if you don't have like your son in your life or you're
45:37
not in your son's life, you can still have a post still make a
45:42
difference. Yeah, you still make a difference, right, So yeah,
45:45
yeah, um, and I've seen that with um, with with custody cases.
45:51
Yeah, for the father just keeps fighting or gets cut out and then
45:54
he only has access when the kid is a lot older, and um,
46:00
but he does what he can. Like there was one girl that I knew
46:06
a long time ago and a couple of cities ago, where her father fought
46:12
to have custody over her for for years and years and years, and she
46:15
said it was just you know, she watched how he tried to father her
46:21
from a distance because the mother was apparently not not a great person, shall
46:25
we say, Yeah, And how he tried to try to mitigate that from
46:32
of, you know, like from outside of the situation, and tried to
46:37
to to protect his daughter from the mother and his sons from the mother without
46:45
having any direct ability to do so, and he never gave up on that.
46:51
Now this is a different situation because, no doubt he's in jail presumably
46:54
oh wait, it's because he was it a something that he was charged with,
47:00
but he was innocent of. It was an accident. He has served
47:06
time, but it was an accident. He didn't mean to kill the woman.
47:08
Okay, all right, okay, all right, so it was if
47:14
it wasn't like a it was like like a negligent homicide or um no,
47:21
I think it was. It was an accidental let me see. Hold on,
47:25
it was an accident killing, so okay, all right, Yeah,
47:31
it's like a manslaughter maybe, yeah, like a manslaughter, right, okay,
47:37
Well regardless, you know, it could have been some accident, maybe
47:40
he was railroaded. Whatever. He's not in his his child's life, but
47:44
he's trying to be a father for them, for him in from the distance.
47:47
And that's that's something that resonates with I think a lot of men who
47:52
are trying to keep their spirits up when they're no longer allowed to be in
47:57
their children's lives. You know, you don't know the kind of effect you'll
48:00
have, even if it's at a distance, So keep trying, right you
48:07
know. Um, I mean if you have to maybe maybe you do.
48:10
You need to take a break or work on yourself, that's fine too,
48:15
but you never know. Yeah, it's gonna end up. Yeah exactly.
48:22
So anyway, that's he got game. Um check it out. It is.
48:25
It is a Spike Lee movie, so you know, there's like,
48:29
um, he has a certain style that uh, you know, maybe something
48:34
it's not it's not to everyone's taste, all right, So next we got
48:38
well, I have a super chat, so let me read the super chat.
48:40
Yeah. Also you might need to get going here. Pretty cool.
48:45
Yeah, I think I do one more and then we can like I'll do
48:47
that, well unless unless you want, like unless I can do a shorter
48:52
patron show instead and just go like, oh, well, I think because
48:55
these we've been discussing these, like for twenty minutes, so I think this
49:00
is gonna gonna push it over, especially since it's for to Kill a Mockingbird.
49:04
So maybe we can like discuss the summary and all right, you have
49:07
more of it next time. Okay. So I got um a super chat
49:13
from Master Rogue. He gives us ten dollars, Thank you, Master Rogue,
49:15
and he says, A monster calls is a good one. A tree
49:19
acts like a father figure. The actual dad isn't a moron or a deadbeat.
49:22
And it's about a boy coming to terms with his mom's inevitable death.
49:28
A monster calls, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.
49:30
I've never heard of it. I'll look it up. Thank you,
49:32
Master Rogue. Appreciate that, Um, And so should I just do part
49:39
of this one? So why don't we do the Let's let's give the this
49:45
is I guess a preview, but we will be talking about next, which
49:47
yeah, yeah, so we're gonna be We're gonna be doing more of these.
49:52
Next is to Kill a Mockingbird. Most of this. Most people think
49:55
of this movie as like a court room drama, but there is a um
50:01
father and daughter relationship that's also a big central part of the story with Atticus
50:07
Finch and his uh daughter um Scout. So I could play this one minute
50:15
clip, or we could just just tell you what to do this next time
50:19
or whenever we do this again. Well, let's let's look, let's look
50:22
at a bit of it, let's play it. But if I keep going
50:27
us go, we can't ever read anymore what a compromise is? Blam pausing
50:45
there for the banana. Yep, let us banana? This okay, banana?
50:52
Hey, you know what we should get? What dominions saying? Banana?
50:57
Oh God? Speaking of minions, I watched the Super Mario Brothers movie
51:07
yesterday. It was it was good. I was. I was pleased.
51:13
It wasn't deep really, but it was good. Well. It was about
51:15
brotherhood, which I guess should be obvious. And the reason why I said
51:21
the minions reminded me of it was because it was done by the same animation
51:23
company that does the Despicable Me franchise. So um also kind of surprising because
51:31
I didn't I wasn't super impressed by the brand the animation of Despicable Me compared
51:37
to like Pixar and dream Works. But yeah, they're coming up because Mario
51:42
Brothers was pretty good all right. Anyway, It's an agreement reached about mutual
51:47
consent. It is the way it works. You can see the necessity went
52:00
to school We'll keep right on reading the same every night, all right.
52:07
So he's compromising with his daughter on something we always have, that a bargain.
52:22
They just didn't seem to be anyone or anything. Atticas couldn't explain though.
52:30
It wasn't a talent that would arouse the admiration of any of our friends.
52:32
Gem and I had to admit he was very good at all right,
52:37
Okay, Yeah, so I'm guessing he made a compromise with his daughter and
52:40
continue to go to school. He made a deal with his daughter. But
52:45
he is supposed to be like a very good example. I'll just read like
52:51
the summary I have here. Has there ever been a more fundamentally decent father
52:55
in the history of cinema than Atticus Finch, the widower and small town lawyer
53:00
played by Gregory Peck in Robert Mulligan's glorious adaptation of Harper Lee's great American novel
53:07
To Kill a Mockingbird. Defending a young black man on a rape charge doesn't
53:09
make you a popular man in depression era Alabama. But while Atticus has his
53:15
safety threatened and his good name besmirched, he only grows in stature in the
53:20
wide open eyes of his children, Gem and Scout. Mulligan's film might lose
53:25
some or most of Scout's first person narration from the original book because the book
53:30
is a little bit different, but there's no question we're seeing events unfold from
53:34
a child's perspective. In the tense confrontation in which Atticus is spat on near
53:37
the house of his client, he's as low as we've ever seen him in
53:42
film, both professionally and personally, to his young son looking in terror from
53:45
the car. His father has never been taller, so he's an inspiring figure
53:52
despite everything. And what makes it doubly interesting is that he is defending a
54:00
you know, another man who is being like essentially condemned for raping a white
54:05
woman. I think it's been a while, but so you you you guys
54:10
get that. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, unfortunately, I think Harper Lee
54:19
succumbed to the desire to just sort of destroy everything she created, because she
54:25
then turned around and wrote, um, go set a watchman, which I
54:32
don't know Addicus is working with the clan and other stuff like that. Um
54:37
oh yeah, it's it was a controversial a book that she wrote after this
54:46
one. Yeah, that's a book she wrote after this one and uh okay.
54:54
So essentially this says from Harper. Lee Comes a landmark new novel,
54:58
set two decades after Belove told the prize winning masterpiece to Gill A Mockingbird.
55:04
Twenty six year old Jean Louise Finch Scout returns home from New York City division
55:07
visit her aging father Atticus. Jeane louise homecoming turns bitter sweet when she learns
55:14
disturbing truths about a close knit family boy Howdy, The town and the people
55:19
dearest to her. Memories from her childhood flood back, and her values and
55:22
assumptions are thrown into doubt. So basically she deconstructed her own booking it seems
55:30
like that book, whatever, that book is, nobody like that. One's
55:34
clearly not as renown, I don't think okay, no, featuring many of
55:39
the iconic characters blah blah blah, and a painful yet necessary transition out of
55:44
the illusions of the past, a journey that he guided only by one's conscience.
55:51
Killer richer understanding and appreciation of Harper, league of the author, not
55:55
the author's creation. Here is an unforgettable novel of wisdom, manity, passion.
56:00
Here or an effortless precision. Unbelievable. Yeah, I know, unbelievable.
56:09
Well, yeah, we'll always have this book, you know, I'll
56:14
always have this book, Death of the Author. Yeah, look it up,
56:16
guys probably check it out. Yeah, okay, so we will.
56:25
I guess we'll stop it here. But I do have a number of other
56:30
movies that I think you guys will like, um and appreciate. Yeah,
56:35
I think I think you will. So we went through four. That was
56:38
four? Yeah. Yeah. Or I'll do this, okay, when you
56:44
guys go into the commis compromise. When you guys go into the commise,
56:46
we compromise. What I said, are we compromising? Are we We're kind
56:52
of compromising. But but I wanted to do this anyway. I want to
56:54
know what movies or books all so uh that you think are really good positive
57:04
examples of fathers and fatherhood. Um. I would say that I prefer that
57:09
they were actually their father. But if it's like an older brother or you
57:15
know, a father figure, I guess that's okay too. But um,
57:20
you know, I think that I would like I think we can narrow down
57:23
to fathers to have plenty of of of content already. So um, so
57:30
yeah, let us know what you guys think. What what what stories do
57:34
you think of or that or movies that have really good examples of fatherhood very
57:38
positive uh fatherly you know, um models and why you know, because maybe
57:46
you'll you'll have something that's a little bit off the beaten path and you might
57:51
need to like explain a little bit. So let us know. I'm looking
57:53
forward to seeing your comments and maybe we'll pick some of those and and talk
57:57
about them in the next installment of this series, I guess, so yeah,
58:01
sure, yeah, next time we approached a red Chill Cinema will continue
58:07
on this thread of father positive media. Also, i'd like to remind you
58:12
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58:15
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58:19
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