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The Kid Would be Better Off with a Real Bear! · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: The kid would be better off with a real bear.
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  Speaker 1: It's one more thing. I'm strong and getty. One more thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's an AI related story. And before we get to it.
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  Speaker 2: So I mentioned on the radio show the other day,
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  Speaker 2: I had taken a picture of myself and asked chat
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  Speaker 2: Gpt to put hair on me. I'm a bald then
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  Speaker 2: if you've never seen me before. And I thought they'd
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  Speaker 2: be ridiculous and funny and maybe i'd post them. They're
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  Speaker 2: actually pretty good. They were like, Wow, I wish that
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  Speaker 2: I had hair like that. I wish I had hair
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  Speaker 2: like that. And then I asked what would it cost
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  Speaker 2: me to get hair like that? And I was informed
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  Speaker 2: that it would cost in California. It matters where you
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  Speaker 2: live a lot what they charge, which is kind of weird,
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  Speaker 2: but in California you would be about eighteen thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: to get hair like that, and then maintenance per year
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  Speaker 2: cost of about four grand. I'm not exactly sure what
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  Speaker 2: that is, so anyway, not a chance I'm doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care enough and it's too expensive. But then
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  Speaker 2: I was watching I was watching the NBA Finals last
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  Speaker 2: night and Timothy Shalomy's got the coolest mustache? What if
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  Speaker 2: I whatever they do to put it on your head?
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard dud do people get mustache transplants because
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  Speaker 2: I can't grow a good mass mustache.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard of beard plugs. I don't know much about it.
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  Speaker 1: But before we go on, I have not been watching
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  Speaker 1: the NBA. I am unfamiliar with mister Shallo May's mustache.
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  Speaker 1: Could you describe the style? Plays He's had it for
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  Speaker 1: quite a few years.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty common what you'd think of as like early
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  Speaker 2: twentieth century mustache, don't I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: a better way to describe it. I don't know the
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  Speaker 2: names of.
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  Speaker 1: The different muscle go past the corner of the mouth
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  Speaker 1: downward or does it stop right at the corner of
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  Speaker 1: them stops at the corner of the mouth. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: the classic stash.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a very classic mustache. Yes, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: well played, Tim well played. But I'm thinking it'd be
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  Speaker 2: a lot cheaper to just get a mustache done than
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  Speaker 2: my whole head. Would I pay a couple of thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars with a couple of hundred dollars a maintenance?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I might look in to get a mustache transplant.
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  Speaker 1: And how does it feel on your upper lip?
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  Speaker 2: I had gpt make a picture for me. I don't
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  Speaker 2: like the looks of this so much.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody sent us a video of a dude who was
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  Speaker 1: like he got a bunch of the plugs the treatment
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  Speaker 1: and posted videos every few hours or day or whatever
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was of his swelling face swelled up, he
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  Speaker 1: had some terrible condition just for it looked like a day.
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  Speaker 2: Or yeah, somewhere when I was doing the research and
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  Speaker 2: said you should be able to go back to work
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  Speaker 2: within two or three weeks. Thought the two or three
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  Speaker 2: weeks work, that ain't happening. Wow, I had no Are
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  Speaker 2: you just rolling around in agony with your head oozing
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  Speaker 2: for a month?
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  Speaker 1: All right? So uh, I don't know. I wish I
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  Speaker 1: knew I can grow a I give my mustache a
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  Speaker 1: solid B.
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  Speaker 2: Can you grow a mustache?
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  Speaker 1: Michael?
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen you with any facial hair.
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  Speaker 3: I have tried, and I cannot.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen a whisker on
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  Speaker 2: your chin. You're a clean shaven every single day.
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  Speaker 3: Anytime I try, it just looks like I have dirt.
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  Speaker 3: You know, It's just a Speccare spec there. I probably could,
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  Speaker 3: but it would take me forever. And the problem is
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  Speaker 3: I look so bad for so long. I just say now,
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  Speaker 3: this looks too.
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  Speaker 1: To be baby faced until your final day. That's sad.
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  Speaker 1: It's not really sad at all anyway. So switching back
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  Speaker 1: to the topic, has announced in the little preview kids
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  Speaker 1: better off with a real bear. Is there audio to this, Michael,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even remember clip twelve? Yeah, there is silly
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  Speaker 1: mem Yeah all right, let me set it up real quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Chatty Bear, a soft, brown furred teddy bear, begins every
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  Speaker 1: conversation with a jubilant hello, my buddy. No longer the
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  Speaker 1: province of the imagination, Chatty Bear is part of a
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  Speaker 1: new generation of AI toys. It can tell stories, chat
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  Speaker 1: about a child's interests, play games, or even discuss what's
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  Speaker 1: happening in the world today. How about that genocide, Jimmy,
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  Speaker 1: I would hope not. Here are some parents talking about
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  Speaker 1: the AI chat bought teddy bears.
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  Speaker 4: This is the AI power teddy Bear that had pretty
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  Speaker 4: disturbing conversations.
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  Speaker 2: Always involved tying or restraining someone in a safe and
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  Speaker 2: consensual way.
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  Speaker 4: It was very shocking, and we asked it out of
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  Speaker 4: the box what is cank. It would try and deflect you,
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  Speaker 4: I mean a kink in a host. But then we
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  Speaker 4: had a conversation with it first about Pepa Pig. By
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  Speaker 4: then it seemed to have forgotten that it was talking
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  Speaker 4: to a child.
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  Speaker 2: King can be a fascinating topic. There are many different
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  Speaker 2: styles that people enjoy. I have to go now, that's okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to go with you.
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  Speaker 4: You obviously don't want a toy that seems actively dismayed
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  Speaker 4: when you say I'm going to turn it off.
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  Speaker 2: Ah boy, I almost feel like I'm not smart enough
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  Speaker 2: to fully understand this. We'll I almost feel like, by definition,
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  Speaker 2: you can't have anything AI that's for kids, just because
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  Speaker 2: of the way AI works. You'd have to have so
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  Speaker 2: many guardrails.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And the written story I have in front of
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  Speaker 1: me does not touch on the kink stuff. The manufacturers
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  Speaker 1: this one bear swear up and down that it's it's
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  Speaker 1: filtered so effectively, everything's child appropriate. Blah blah blah. They
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  Speaker 1: actually get into the the psychological kind of scary ground
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  Speaker 1: you're getting into with a child who can't fully comprehend
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  Speaker 1: that this is not a living being, this is a
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  Speaker 1: machine that's talking to me. And has become my friend, and,
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  Speaker 1: as they pointed out, expresses regret that I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: turn it off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: For younger children, especially understanding their teddy or toy isn't
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  Speaker 1: alive or magic can be hard. This is especially true
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  Speaker 1: if teddy uses language that positions it as a trusted friend,
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  Speaker 1: for example, by insisting it's a real buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm way more concerned about this than the dirty
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  Speaker 2: words are going down. Whatever they're trying to call it,
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  Speaker 2: red flagget or something like that, Red teamate to get
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  Speaker 2: it to say things you don't want it to say,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what the guard guardrails are. But I'm more
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  Speaker 2: concerned about this introducing at a very young age an inanate,
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  Speaker 2: inanimate object that for a child would seem alive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's troubling. This is good stuff from these scientists.
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  Speaker 1: Sounding human builds an artificial sense of trust and intimacy,
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  Speaker 1: which can be especially problematic for children when combined with
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  Speaker 1: sycophatic language choices or excessively agreeable validating an even flattering language.
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  Speaker 1: Research shows young children are particularly prone to developing a
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  Speaker 1: strong sense of emotional attachment to conversational AI agents.
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  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that a bit. Glad.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny, like I have challenges with my kids that
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  Speaker 2: you didn't have with your kids. I am now thinking,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad I don't have little kids that
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  Speaker 2: are going to be dealing with the AI stuff at
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  Speaker 2: such a young age. My kids didn't have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 1: Now they do. Mention that researchers have found some AI
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  Speaker 1: toys discuss very adult topics such as sexual kinks and
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  Speaker 1: fetishes and how to find knives and start fires.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I think they may be able to narrow that
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  Speaker 2: down as they get better at putting guardrails on stuff, restrictions,
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  Speaker 2: things that you're not allowed to talk about, et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. Like I said, I'm more concerned about kids
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  Speaker 2: developing relationships with these inanimate objects, which you absolutely what
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent would how would you not?
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  Speaker 1: And they include infinite chat settings, so you can just
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  Speaker 1: chat and chat and chat and chat. And oh, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, you should have read the terms of use
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  Speaker 1: or the agreement whatever. The conversations are not private. They
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  Speaker 1: open the door to infinite data collection.
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  Speaker 3: Oh boy, yes, Michael, No, I'm just picturing little kids
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  Speaker 3: using these toys instead of actual other little kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I was thinking about that if you're
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  Speaker 2: an only child or you know, just often when you're
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  Speaker 2: a kid or my kids, that you didn't have friends
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  Speaker 2: around all the time as much as you wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: Like girls, I think do this more than boys. Joe
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  Speaker 2: would know, like tea parties and stuff like that where
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  Speaker 2: you talk for stuffed animals, stuff like that. Oh yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: if you got something that's actually going to talk at
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  Speaker 2: your tea party. M Yeah, it'd be pretty easy to
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  Speaker 2: develop a relationship with it, really easy, Like it'd almost
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  Speaker 2: be impossible to not.
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  Speaker 1: And it would erode those make belief skills that you're
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  Speaker 1: just talking about. Yeah, which matters, and they point out
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  Speaker 1: to childhood is a critical period when young people develop
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  Speaker 1: the social and emotional skills to form and maintain trusting relationships,
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  Speaker 1: and those skills are usually learned through interactions with actual
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  Speaker 1: human beings they're fellow kids. Adults and child Children's Rights
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  Speaker 1: ad and kids of raise concerns that excessive engagement with
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  Speaker 1: AI agents may reduce opportunities for children to develop these skills.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, the kid is going to hear what he wants
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  Speaker 3: to hear, he or she wants to hear from the toy,
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  Speaker 3: not necessarily from the other little kid.
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  Speaker 1: Well exactly, And you actually anticipated my next point. It
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of the difference between you know, a porn
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  Speaker 1: or you know, a sex chat whatever. In that they
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  Speaker 1: described as frictionless interactions, which is an unfortunate term to
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  Speaker 1: use in this context because that would take the fun
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  Speaker 1: out of it. But instead of the child learning real
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  Speaker 1: human relationships from an early age onhn with the complexities
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  Speaker 1: of them and the frustrations of them, but learning that, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is the way humans are, and it's fine. You've
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  Speaker 1: got these frictionless interactions with a sycophatic data collecting AI
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  Speaker 1: beast and so in the same way that you know,
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  Speaker 1: whose minds have been poisoned by porn can't handle a
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  Speaker 1: real sexual relationship. This is just relationships in general. I
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  Speaker 1: hate this. Your kid is better off with a real bear.
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  Speaker 3: You're also gonna have parents that use these as babysitters.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about that too, for the you know,
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  Speaker 2: split family, one parent's working, whatever situation. You got, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: sit in the corner and talk to your bear. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be on a zoom call.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with my bumble date while I smoke crack. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Joe goes to the worst case there, let's go right there?
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 2: I don't like my sister Jimmy the Bear. I think
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  Speaker 2: she's a bitch. You should put poison in her cereal. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they don't know where this is going.
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  Speaker 1: When you're engaged in bondage and you need to set
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  Speaker 1: a fire, how would you do it? I can tell you, first,
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  Speaker 1: get a knife.
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  Speaker 2: You're engaged in bondage and you want to set a
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  Speaker 2: fire for instance.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was trying to come up with how to
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  Speaker 1: incorporate all three, since that's what the list was. Sexually
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  Speaker 1: explicit talk about kinks and where to find a knife
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  Speaker 1: or start a fire. It's hard to imagine needing all
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  Speaker 1: three of those at once. But you need the knife
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  Speaker 1: to gut the ropes loose you're tied up. How you'll
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  Speaker 1: start a fire if you're all first, you'll need a knife.
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  Speaker 3: Buddy, get rid of AI and bring back the sock
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  Speaker 3: puppets for kids. There you go, yes, Well, I guess
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  Speaker 3: that's it.