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Battling Autoimmune Challenges: Diva Mia's Inspiring Journey · The Diva Details

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  Well welcome back to diva details i'm
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  diva mia diva cat and today we're
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  going to be discussing an autoimmune primary bilinary cholangitis also known
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  as pbc kind of near and dear to my heart what is pbc well you know pbc used
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  to be called primary bilinary cirrhosis and people whenever they hear the word
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  cirrhosis, they think of alcoholics, right? Right.
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  So what they did is they've changed the name because primary bilinary cholangitis
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  is specifically not related to alcohol.
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  I mean, I guess you could drink and make it worse, but it's not caused by alcohol abuse.
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  So primary bilinary cholangitis is non-alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver.
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  So basically your body starts attacking the small bile ducts,
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  your liver, and starts to destroy them, and they don't really know why. Huh.
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  That's not caused by alcohol abuse, but if you have it, the alcohol would make
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  it worse. Alcohol would make it worse.
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  So anybody that has PPC shouldn't drink at all. Should not drink at all.
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  They also, there's lots of restrictions, too.
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  So you shouldn't be drinking, You shouldn't be doing a lot of different things.
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  But the whole stigma of cirrhosis is with primary bilinechirurgitis just because it is an autoimmune.
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  Yeah. So you don't really know what causing it. You don't really know how.
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  How do you get it? Okay. Well, there's usually a trigger.
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  And usually, you know, for me, I guess my story starts back in 2015 when I was
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  trying to get pregnant with my second child. I was 44 years old. I was like, 44? Yeah.
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  Wow. So actually, I think I was 43 when I actually was doing the IVF and stuff.
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  Most insurances require that you try a drug called Clomid.
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  And, you know, it's funny because I've been on some of the chat boards and there's
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  a lot of people with PBC that had used Clomid in the past as well.
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  I started off with a drug called Clomid. And what happened is it's a drug that
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  just makes you kick out extra eggs. Right.
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  And within a few days of being on Clomid, I had a massive reaction.
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  My feet look like balls underneath them. It swelled up so bad I couldn't walk.
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  And I woke up in the morning. I couldn't walk. I was in so much inflammation, so much pain.
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  And we called the doctor. He says, okay, stop that immediately.
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  Well, that was fine. We stopped it.
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  And it was noted that I couldn't take Clomid because I had an allergic reaction to it. Right.
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  Well, one of the side effects of Clomid is actually death or liver damage.
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  And it does happen. It does happen. I don't know what the percentage is specifically
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  related to Clomid, but it's one of the side effects that they don't tell you about.
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  So I went for blood work and my alkaline phosphatase was elevated into the 400s.
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  And it was prior to the Clomid, it was normal.
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  Oh, wow. And I had done blood work before because I needed blood work done to
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  go through the fertility treatments.
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  All of this is for fertility? All of this was for fertility.
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  I needed blood work done for fertility treatments.
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  And so my blood work prior was in the 40, 50s on alkaline phosphatase.
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  So it went up tenfold. So it was in the 400s, and my doctor was like, wow. Wow.
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  They go, you have some serious liver problems. And I go, well,
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  it wasn't like that before Clomid.
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  Yeah. But we went ahead and we went with IVF. I didn't have any reactions to
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  the IVF medifications, only the pre-IVF stuff, which was the Clomid.
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  And we found out that it wasn't my eggs anyway.
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  It was, you know, this is a problem with the medical community is they always
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  blame the woman if she's older that she can't get pregnant. That is correct. Correct.
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  That is the correct statement. But they should have tested my husband first
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  because his sperm, even though he was a year younger than me, his sperm was crap.
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  Right. It was like functioning at 10%. So no matter how much clomid they would
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  have given me, I would still not have been able to get pregnant because of his
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  sperm. And yet it caused liver injury.
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  Okay, so liver damage. I basically got liver damage. Long story short,
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  I had a baby. I had no problems. But I had these elevated liver enzymes.
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  So it stays with you. It stays with you because it caused major liver damage, right?
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  And the doctors were doctors and they weren't specialists, you know.
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  And so every year or two, they'd say, wow, your liver enzymes are elevated.
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  I go, yep. They go, we should go get an ultrasound just to make sure everything's
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  okay and that you don't have fatty liver disease.
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  So every year I'd go into the ultrasound, every year or every other year,
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  I'd go in and get an ultrasound of my liver. And they said, no,
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  your liver looks fine. Okay.
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  Well, the problem is, is that PBC, you can't detect. You can't detect.
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  With a liver. But I might not have had it at that point anyway.
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  I just had liver damage. You have to go buy the seamstum for the PBC.
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  Yes. You can notice yourself. Yes. Is that what it is? Yeah.
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  Well, I functioned quite well with liver damage.
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  I mean, I didn't find that I get tired once in a while, but I didn't seem to
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  have any symptoms or problems at all until 2023.
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  So in june of 2023 yes
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  i found out that my husband at the time of 28
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  years that well i was with him for 28 years that he
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  was having an affair oh my god
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  relationship affair with his assistant and just
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  like yeah well yeah it's it's
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  a whole thing but i don't want to go into that and then so in June I found
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  that out in July I filed for divorce and in
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  August of 2023 the
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  Lahaina fires happened and that had a
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  huge stress impact as well so first I had the major
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  stress of his affair then I had
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  the stress of from the fire filing for divorce then
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  I had stress from the Lahaina fires trying to
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  manage that with friends and family and then
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  in September I got divorced uh-huh
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  in october i was back packing up
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  my house and a kid ended up drowning
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  that i pulled out of the water unresponsive god
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  and so that was a extremely stressful too stressful and then in november my
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  father had a stroke oh my god so it was it was like five months yeah five months
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  it was back to back to back things five or six yeah autoimmunes a lot of times
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  most of the times have a trigger.
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  And I was not very good at regulating my emotion at this time because I had
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  stress after stress after stress.
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  And it just, I'm usually pretty good at regulating my emotions and my stress,
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  but I, I just knocked me out.
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  And it was amazing how much trauma and stress I went through in five or six
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  months. Is that why you throw yourself to work?
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  Well, I wasn't working at this time because I was dealing with a divorce and
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  everything else. That's work.
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  Yeah. Well, it was a fast divorce. It was a fast divorce. Yes,
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  I got divorced in 60 days. So...
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  What ended up happening was, I think it was probably the most traumatic was
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  the divorce because it was a shock.
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  Yeah. It was not expected. You didn't know it was coming. It was not expected.
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  It caused, it triggered the autoimmune. So the autoimmune was not active until then.
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  Right. And primary bilinary cholangitis, the thing about it is it tends to impact mostly women.
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  Huh. I said about 80% of the people that it impacts are women.
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  Is it a way for the treatments or how you affect your eating?
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  No no well we'll go to I'll go
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  through that in a second so I didn't know what I had all I
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  knew was I was itching a lot and I had no idea oh my god so I went to my doctor
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  he goes I don't he goes I don't know do you have fleas you have pets they have
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  fleas I go they don't have fleas I go I know if they have fleas I've seen fleas
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  before they don't have fleas and then there's like well maybe there's bed bugs
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  so I had somebody come out I do travel a lot so I was like okay that would be terrible.
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  But so I went to the I went and hired two different pest inspectors to come
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  to my house and say, nope, you don't have bed bugs. You're just itching.
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  They don't know why. They said, go talk to a dermatologist.
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  So I asked my doctor for a referral to a dermatologist. OK.
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  Dermatologist says it doesn't look like bug bites. It looks like you're scratching
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  due to some rich itch or histamine response. So they gave me a cream cream.
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  Like you itch all over your body? Yeah, itched all over my body.
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  And at this time, I had also gone and done blood work. my liver
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  enzymes were in the 900s oh my god at
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  the end of 2023 i was like something's going
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  on but i didn't know but i was itching every
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  night it was so terrible it's called puritis i believe is
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  what it's called for pvc it's it's one
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  of the main things is the itching is a symptom that
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  it's getting bad and i went to my primary
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  care physician because i'd heard on the radio that
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  ozempic can decrease your liver enzymes and i
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  was thinking well if i can decrease my liver enzymes maybe the itch will go
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  away because the itch got worse as my liver enzymes got bigger okay he goes
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  i don't know let's send you to a specialist so you know 10 years later they're
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  finally sending me to a specialist 10 years took them 10 years it took them
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  about 10 years yeah oh my god well nine years nine years i know,
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  Nine years later. So I go to the specialist, and he's actually the head of a liver institute.
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  They had me run blood work before I went to the liver institute.
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  And my alkaline phosphatase at this time was 1,100. So it had gotten really high.
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  So it's supposed to be like in the 40s, 50s. It's 1,100. I was like,
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  wow. And, of course, my oldest son was with me.
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  The guy was great. He spent an hour and a half with me telling me how serious
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  this is. He goes, I can't guarantee it until we do a biopsy.
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  Yeah, until we do a biopsy of your liver. And he'd go, you're going to have
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  to go in for a biopsy. He goes, but I almost guarantee you, I see this all the time.
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  He's like, there's three or four women, typically women, that come in a month
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  with exactly what you have. Oh, wow. Is that that high grade?
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  Yeah. And he said, there's no way we would have been able to detect it with
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  a ultrasound. He goes, you have to do a biopsy. You have to do a biopsy.
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  I think two or three weeks later, I went in for the biopsy. I was trying to
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  keep it quiet and private because I didn't know what was going on.
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  I had also tested positive for lupus because typically when you have an autoimmune,
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  you may test positive for more than one.
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  But that might just be related because of all the inflammation in my body. We just don't know.
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  I had also gone to a hormone doctor and she saw my liver enzymes and she freaked
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  out. She's like, you need to get into a doctor now.
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  Oh, wow. So she was more worried than my primary care physician was.
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  But I went in. I did the biopsy. Mm-hmm.
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  Which was interesting. It's actually a little painful to recover from.
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  I wasn't expecting that.
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  But a few days later, it came back and it said, sure enough,
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  I have stage three cirrhosis, which I guess is better than stage four because
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  stage four is liver transplant level.
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  But I had stage three cirrhosis on the outside and stage three fibrosis interior.
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  So my liver is pretty messed up.
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  Then I was like, oh, so I got back in to see the liver specialist right away. Okay.
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  And so they tried to put me on this medication called Urso because it's the
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  main treatment for PBC. PBC.
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  And of course, since I'm very sensitive to medications, I had complete,
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  I had like. You break out?
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  Oh, I had heart palpitations. Oh, my God. I passed out. I fell down.
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  I couldn't, I mean, it was, I thought that I was dying. I literally thought I was dying.
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  In fact, I texted people. I go, if I don't make it through the night,
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  guys, here's my, here's my kids' numbers.
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  Here's my ex-husband's number. Here's my family, my grandfather,
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  my father and my family. I mean, it was it was bad.
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  I had probably three quarters of all the side effects all at once.
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  Yeah. So I was on Urso and Urso is like an acid and it tries to open up the bile ducts. Right.
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  And I had not been I was on it and I was like, OK, this is terrible.
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  There was no way I was going to survive it. So, of course, I stopped that right away.
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  I told the doctor, they're like, there's no way you had all these side effects.
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  I go, well, I did, because I documented, and I literally documented it hour
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  by hour as things started happening.
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  Yeah. You're a very smart woman that you keep track of, and therefore you make it so much easier.
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  Well, I tend to have allergic reactions to all different kinds of pharmaceuticals.
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  I have allergic reactions to antibiotics, to pain meds.
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  Ever since my liver got damaged, I have a difficult time processing pharmaceuticals.
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  Is that why you're seeking alternate medicine? That's why I usually go alternative,
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  yeah. You know, it's kind of funny that when you only have one path,
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  it actually makes things easier.
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  So I was like, thank you, God, for only giving me one path.
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  Now, there were a couple other drugs that are in the works for FDA approval,
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  but I didn't want to try them.
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  And they weren't available yet anyway.
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  Specifically for this. Specifically for PBC. The reality is, is Urso doesn't cure it.
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  It delays and may, quote unquote, prolong your life.
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  And I had already been... So the doctor told me that I had, with the level of
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  liver condition, I probably would only make it three to five years without a liver transplant.
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  That is serious. Yeah, and he said it in front of my... In front of the head.
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  Which was probably not the best thing. Probably not the best thing.
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  Doctors say stuff like that because they always like to tell you the worst case scenario.
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  Please do, though. And the other problem was, is I looked up liver transplants,
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  and people that have autoimmune diseases that reject their own liver...
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  They reject their own liver. They tend to reject livers that are given.
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  Yes. And the rejection medications that they put you on, I don't know if I could survive those either.
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  Yeah. Oh, you're allergic to a lot of modern medication. You don't have to. I am.
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  Deep before you do anything. Yeah. So, but I've done okay with natural herbs and things like that.
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  I was like, okay, well. The doctor said no alcohol ever. I was like, okay, no problem.
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  Yeah. I did like a glass of wine here and there, but it wasn't like I drank
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  a lot. So I just cut all the alcohol out of my life completely.
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  I stopped sugar. Oh, that's a hard one. I stopped processed foods.
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  Oh. And I went, if it's not from the earth or from an animal, I'm not eating it.
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  And I cut back on a lot.
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  You don't eat red meat either. I very rarely eat because beef is not the easiest on your liver. Okay.
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  And so I cut back on a lot and I said, okay, I'm just going to go natural.
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  Yes. And I started doing research.
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  Yes. I said, okay, what can I do? Let's think about this. My liver is having
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  difficulty detoxing itself.
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  Right. Because the bile ducts are blocked.
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  Let me find what I can do. First thing on the list is milk thistle, right?
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  Everybody says milk thistle is great for the liver. So milk thistle is on my
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  list every single day. I take milk thistle every day. Every day.
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  Dr. Berg, I don't know if you heard Dr. Berg on, he's getting more and more
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  popular. He's got a lot of alternative treatments.
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  He said if you have cirrhosis or any type of liver problem, you should take Tudka.
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  What is Tudka? Tudka is a bile salt.
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  It basically declogs your bile ducts.
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  I think, honestly, Urso is probably designed off of it, but it's a natural bile
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  salt. It comes as a type of form of a supplement? It's a supplement.
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  It comes from a little bit of Chinese medicine, but Tadka is like a natural
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  version of Urso, if you will. Oh, okay.
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  So I started taking Tadka. I take a selenium. I take choline.
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  What is selenium? Selenium is a, I don't know exactly what it is.
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  It's another supplement that you can take.
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  All of this is to detox your liver. So my thought process is if I can detox
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  the liver, get rid of the bad cells, hopefully, because the liver regenerates
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  every 21 or so days, right?
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  Hopefully, eventually, the liver will stop regenerating scar tissue and regenerate
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  healthy. Healthy liver.
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  But how do you do that? Well, you've got to also trigger autophagy and stem
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  cell production. So you have to change your whole lifestyle.
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  Your whole lifestyle changes. PBC changes your whole life overnight.
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  It's already, yeah. I mean, I wasn't sleeping well because most of the itching
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  happens at night for some reason.
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  Like the majority of the itching was between 11 and 3 a.m. And that's kind of
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  like prime sleep hours. Yeah.
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  I was having difficulty sleeping, etc. I said, OK, so I'm going to detox.
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  So I started doing different liver detoxes and cleansing.
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  They didn't seem to work very well. I went to the sauna.
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  I did a lot of sauna stuff. Now, I have in the past fasted a lot.
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  You did a lot of water fasting. I have done a lot of water fasting.
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  My longest water fast was 40 days.
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  And I like water fasting because even before I had primary bilinary cholangitis
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  or PPC, I had a lot of inflammation from, you know, when your liver is not functioning.
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  Right. You're going to have extra inflammation in your body.
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  So your joints hurt, et cetera. And fasting to me, it made all my joints feel amazing.
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  And I got rid of within two or three days, most of your inflammation goes away
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  and you feel amazing. Just water for 45 days.
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  I did water for 40 days. 40 days. Was my longest. Now, I had done a lot of intermittent
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  fasting prior to that as well.
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  Doesn't work for me. Well, it doesn't work for everyone. But,
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  you know, it kind of changes when you're given three to five years, right?
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  That is so true. You have to fight away one way or another.
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  That's right. I started doing longer fasts. So I did, you know,
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  a week here, five days here, a week there.
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  I'm going to be starting a new fast soon. That's going to be at least another 40 days.
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  My thought process is this. and it seems logical whether or not the body will respond, I don't know.
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  Fasting basically triggers autophagy. And what autophagy is,
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  your body naturally goes after the bad cells first.
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  So if you had cancer, your body would actually attack those cells first.
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  If you have bad cells that aren't functioning or growing wrong,
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  your body is going to go after those first.
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  If you have extra skin, your body actually goes after that first.
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  That is so true. before it actually goes after your muscles,
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  before it actually goes after your organs.
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  There's lots of research done on this. You can go look at Dr.
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  Fung's research. You can look at Dr. Berg. You can look. There's tons of information. Dr.
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  Berg. Dr. Berg is amazing. He
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  talks a lot about autoimmune diseases lately because they're so prevalent.
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  You are amazing. Have you thought about writing the book about this?
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  I might. You should do another step away. I might. Every step away.
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  Well, let me get cured first because I'm not quite there yet. I do a fasting.
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  I've also done, I do acupuncture with some Chinese herbs as well that are good for the liver.
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  I just started the acupuncture about two months ago because this has been a year long journey.
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  So for the last year, you know, I've gone from, oh my gosh, you don't have much time left.
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  And I itch every day to I'm getting it under control without pharmaceutical medication.
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  It's kind of important to me to.
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  Live longer because i have two children that are
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  below 18 i want to make sure i'm there for them that's
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  my why i guess that's my big old yeah that
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  is your goal actually yeah i have to
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  be there healthy or like you have to be there for them oh yeah yeah but
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  how long has it been you've been fathered you seem to be doing
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  great well i'm doing better in january no in november of last year i started
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  what's called eboo the eboo it's like kind of like kidney dialysis so it's basically
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  what it does is it takes your blood out it filters it and then it puts it back in it's called.
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  Extracorpial blood oxygenation and ozonation
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  it basically it filters your blood out and then
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  adds oxygen and ozone to it and sticks it back in it's a
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  good back in that has helped too i get
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  a ton of uric acid and urea out of
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  my blood when they filter it it's kind of like oh wow
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  that was in my blood because my liver's not doing that so
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  i've done that a few times i think that helps a lot and then the natural herbs
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  and i've done detoxes and i've done i'm constantly detoxing so i went from very
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  high performing productive business woman to someone that spends six to eight
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  hours a day taking care of her health.
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  I work out six days a week. I lift weights. I walk a lot. I go to the sauna.
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  I go to the steam room. I do cryotherapy. I do red light therapy.
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  I do acupuncture. I do massage.
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  And it's pricey because all this stuff is alternative stuff.
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  I do IV therapy. The insurance does not cover any of it.
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  The only thing I get covered is my blood
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  tests okay yeah and i do blood tests
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  every and sometimes they cover it sometimes they don't when it's ordered
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  by a doctor it's covered when but a
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  lot of times i want them they don't because i order it myself right
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  and i want to know my blood work to see if what i'm doing is having an impact
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  so every two to four weeks i'm you order your blood work yourself yeah and there
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  were times like when i was doing ebio i was doing it every week so i could see
• 21:34
  yeah i'm getting better pricey actually they're not too bad you can get everything
• 21:38
  i get is for under a hundred Oh, wow.
• 21:41
  And it's cash. There's a lot of different health labs you can go to online.
• 21:45
  I do a metabolic panel and a lipid panel and a CBC.
• 21:50
  Oh, wow. And I just order them and then I go to a lab and I take them. You take them.
• 21:55
  So one of the problems with PBC is you have high cholesterol because your liver
• 22:01
  filters your blood and it can't filter the cholesterol out.
• 22:06
  They also sent me for a calcium score to see if I had any cholesterol buildup
• 22:11
  in my arteries, and I don't. I had a zero. So that was good. Oh, that was good.
• 22:14
  But I got a lot in my blood because it's, I don't eat a lot of fatty foods or
• 22:18
  a lot of sugar, but it builds up because my liver doesn't filter it.
• 22:22
  The other thing is, is one of the problems is bone density.
• 22:25
  But my bones haven't started breaking down yet. So I've got really strong bones.
• 22:30
  I think it's because I lift weights.
• 22:32
  Now, with lupus, you're not supposed to lift heavy weights.
• 22:35
  But I do anyway. Yeah. Because I believe muscle mass is extremely important. Yeah.
• 22:43
  Muscle mass actually gives you more energy and helps you break down a lot of stuff.
• 22:47
  You have a strong muscle mass. And you sweat a little bit. I'm not a big sweater,
• 22:51
  though. So I don't get a lot of sweat out unless I go into a sauna or a steam room.
• 22:55
  And I was like, okay, I'm going to give this a year to see what happens.
• 23:00
  Now, you also change all your diet too, right? My diet was changed. Yeah, my diet changed.
• 23:06
  Every once in a while, I'll have a little bit of sugar. But in the beginning,
• 23:08
  I didn't take any sugar at all. What do you normally eat daily?
• 23:12
  I do have fruit, but with fiber, no juice.
• 23:16
  No juice. Because juice is just straight sugar. If you're drinking juice that's
• 23:20
  been processed, it's just straight sugar.
• 23:22
  But you could have like some berries because they have a lot of fiber.
• 23:24
  I like grapefruit because it's good for your liver as well.
• 23:28
  You say it's the green leaves. It's a lot of things like leafy,
• 23:32
  green, dark green leaves.
• 23:34
  Like broccoli is really good for blood cleansing. So is beets.
• 23:37
  But beets also have a lot of sugar. So you have to be careful. I eat seafood.
• 23:41
  Okay. But you got to make sure you got to be careful with the mercury. With the mercury.
• 23:45
  So certain fish you eat, certain fish you should not eat.
• 23:48
  Correct. One of the other things I did is chelation therapy. What is that?
• 23:52
  So that's a heavy metal detox with IVs. And that was, it's a five-week process.
• 23:59
  So every day, this is why I spend so much time. It was every day for four days a week for five weeks.
• 24:06
  For five weeks. And all of this is pricey. And all of this was on my own.
• 24:09
  Yeah. For every day for four days a week, or yeah, four days a week for five
• 24:14
  weeks, I went in and I did IVs.
• 24:16
  So they do like a Myers cocktail, then they do a chelation.
• 24:20
  I also did methylene blue, which is also a detoxer and also helps.
• 24:24
  You tend to have a candida overgrowth as well as bacteria overgrowth in your
• 24:28
  blood, and methylene blue helps with that.
• 24:31
  All of these affect your hormone as well.
• 24:34
  Yes, your thyroid may get messed up because everything's tied together.
• 24:38
  I think the problem a lot with Western medicine is they look at the human body as if it was a car.
• 24:43
  You can just take out the alternator and put a new one in.
• 24:46
  And the problem is the human body doesn't function that way.
• 24:49
  So when the liver's not working, your cholesterol's up. When the liver's not
• 24:53
  working, your hormones get off.
• 24:55
  Right. And when the liver... Your kidneys... It's tough on my kidneys because
• 24:59
  they have to process more toxic waste. Yes.
• 25:02
  Your gut biome tends to go bad.
• 25:04
  Oh my God. So my gut biome doesn't function correctly.
• 25:07
  Your fatigue sets in. There can
• 25:09
  also be brain fog. I've been lucky enough not to have too much of that.
• 25:13
  But there are days where I might be functioning really well for a couple of
• 25:17
  days. And then the third day I'm like knocked out. I can't get out of bed.
• 25:20
  I'm exhausted. There's not much you can do about it. So the day you're exhausted, just stay in bed.
• 25:27
  As much as you can, but I have children, so I have responsibilities there,
• 25:31
  you know, so there's, that still happens.
• 25:33
  So over the course of the last year, my enzymes have
• 25:36
  been slowly coming down that is awesome something right
• 25:39
  yeah so i said you should document every i have
• 25:42
  been i have been you need to publish it
• 25:45
  you know how you know how much you're gonna help people out there
• 25:48
  well i'm hoping this podcast will start if people respond to this podcast and
• 25:53
  want me to publish something i can yeah but i'm still on the journey yeah and
• 25:57
  i kind of want to finish the journey before i write anything up but then uh
• 26:01
  within about three months my liver enzymes went from about 1100 down to 900. That is awesome.
• 26:07
  Now I'm giving you just the alkaline phosphatase number.
• 26:10
  Literally, all the markers on my liver enzymes, the gamma, the ALT,
• 26:14
  the AST, all of them were elevated at least tenfold over what they were supposed to be.
• 26:18
  Even my bilirubin was in the jaundice level. That is amazing. It was bad.
• 26:23
  So that's where it was in February, March timeframe of 2024.
• 26:29
  So last year. Yeah. I said, okay. I just kept going.
• 26:34
  I was like, okay, I'm not going to eat that. I mean, I pretty much overnight
• 26:37
  just said, all this stuff is off the table.
• 26:40
  We know what's tough for your liver. Your liver doesn't process sugar well.
• 26:44
  Your liver doesn't process alcohol well.
• 26:46
  If you smoke, your liver doesn't. I never smoke, but your liver is not going
• 26:50
  to process nicotine well.
• 26:51
  It's also not going to process Tylenol or ibuprofen. Those things are very hard
• 26:56
  on your liver. They're bad for liver.
• 26:58
  That is right. Any type of pain meds, terrible for your liver.
• 27:01
  So if I have pain, I don't get a pain med. No, you have pain.
• 27:04
  I deal with the pain. You deal with it and you just sleep well.
• 27:06
  I deal with the pain. I think I'm stronger for it, but I do deal with the pain. I don't take pain meds.
• 27:12
  And I had had kind of allergic reactions to pain meds like coding and stuff.
• 27:15
  My liver has never really processed them well anyway.
• 27:18
  Antibiotics. I try not to get
• 27:20
  on antibiotics. I try to tough it out as much as I can if I get any cold.
• 27:24
  We were talking about being intimate with people. I have to have every person
• 27:28
  I'm going to be intimate with tested for everything before I even kiss them.
• 27:35
  I mean, literally, because if I get hepatitis, now I do have what's called autoimmune hepatitis.
• 27:42
  When they did the biopsy, they discovered that as well.
• 27:44
  Is there such a thing to autoimmune hepatitis? Well, it's basically your liver's
• 27:49
  got cirrhosis and it's an autoimmune problem.
• 27:51
  So once your liver bad, everything's all tied up to death. Everything starts to fall apart.
• 27:56
  But I don't have viral hepatitis, so I can't be with somebody that does.
• 28:00
  And there's a lot of carriers out there that don't know they have viral hepatitis.
• 28:05
  And that would be deadly for me. Now it's going to be hard for you to intimate with someone or dating.
• 28:10
  I don't want to catch any STDs, but nobody wants to catch that.
• 28:13
  But it would be very serious for me.
• 28:15
  But whoever you're going to be dating or going out with, they need to understand
• 28:18
  from your point of view. Yes, because I can't go on antibiotics.
• 28:23
  So if you have something and I caught it, it would be very dangerous for me.
• 28:27
  So I need everyone tested prior to being intimate with anyone. But you know what?
• 28:33
  It's a good thing. It's a good thing, not just to you, to anyone out there that
• 28:37
  need to be out on dating and all of that.
• 28:39
  I highly suggest that you need to be tested. And I can order a person's test
• 28:44
  online, just like I can order my own blood work.
• 28:46
  I mean, coming from me, I'm being the same person I've been with my husband
• 28:49
  for 25 years. I never have to worry about that.
• 28:52
  And, you know, you don't think you, when you're married.
• 28:55
  Yes, that's another thing too. Yeah, but I was fine.
• 28:58
  But I was just like, but now it's extremely important that whoever I'm with,
• 29:02
  that they're clean. They're clean, you have.
• 29:04
  And I think it's important to everybody. It's important to everybody.
• 29:07
  And I think we need to be more cognizant of it because you may have an autoimmune and not know it.
• 29:14
  I not know it. You know, this is so true.
• 29:17
  But you need to be careful when you're out there, especially if you have an
• 29:20
  autoimmune disease, because it will contribute to inflammation.
• 29:23
  You'll then have to possibly go on an antibiotic, which is hard on your liver.
• 29:27
  But because there's a lot of autoimmunes.
• 29:29
  But the reason my croutes doesn't help you at all. I didn't go on it.
• 29:32
  Yeah, that was that was what got me to the liver specialist.
• 29:37
  I'm kind of nervous about different pharmaceuticals. Yes.
• 29:41
  Just because everything seems to set me off. I get a rash or I have a migraine
• 29:46
  or I get... When they're really bad, I get blisters in my mouth. Oh, wow. I can imagine.
• 29:52
  Yeah, it's terrible because it's almost like a thrush I get from pharmaceuticals.
• 29:57
  It goes away when I stop, but it's painful, especially antibiotics.
• 30:01
  Antibiotics tend to trigger...
• 30:03
  Like the blisters it's usually just on the top and
• 30:06
  the back of my throat but I'm just like every time
• 30:09
  I go on or if I have a reaction that's the first thing that
• 30:12
  happens and it's antibiotics yeah so and I'm allergic to penicillin and things
• 30:17
  like that too so you could die from that you know that if you're allergic from
• 30:21
  penicillin well I don't take penicillin yeah so you have to make sure like oh
• 30:25
  no yeah I don't take any of the cillins sulfa drugs give me blisters in my mouth,
• 30:30
  all the sulfa antibiotics.
• 30:31
  I did make sure that, you know, I have all these restrictions.
• 30:35
  Last year, it started coming down. So I got down to 900 like three months later.
• 30:39
  That's awesome. And then three months after that, I got down to about 700.
• 30:43
  I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm on my way.
• 30:46
  And then I went up. I don't know.
• 30:50
  It might've been Thanksgiving. I don't know.
• 30:54
  I had been fasting and then I did eat during Thanksgiving and I probably ate some things.
• 30:59
  I probably shouldn't have some cranberry sauce and things like that.
• 31:03
  I didn't have any pie, but I think I did have some ice cream.
• 31:07
  So that was probably terrible.
• 31:08
  So then my liver enzyme, cause I tested when I came back from Thanksgiving and
• 31:11
  they went up. So they went from 700 back up to 800. I was like,
• 31:15
  okay, so I got to buckle down again.
• 31:16
  So I buckled down again and I just did another test. Now remember when I hit
• 31:21
  start before my autoimmune triggered, my enzymes were in the 400s, the low 400s.
• 31:25
  So in January this year, I did another test and
• 31:28
  my liver enzyme my alkaline phosphatase the reason why i just do
• 31:31
  this one because it's it's a sign and it's the easiest for
• 31:34
  me to remember my alkaline phosphatase is now in the 500s that
• 31:37
  is good yes and my cholesterol dropped it's almost back to normal oh wow which
• 31:42
  means my liver is filtering again well what are you doing you have to keep i
• 31:46
  really think the tutka helps a lot i do think some of the the milk thistle and
• 31:51
  other things help too and and then my bilirubin is normal that is And my ALT,
• 31:57
  AST are almost normal. And my gamma is better.
• 32:00
  So my liver is functioning better.
• 32:03
  Right. Now, what is the normal number for liver Alzheimer's,
• 32:07
  you know? I'll go through that in a second.
• 32:08
  But I ended up triggering healing. And I really think that the best things were
• 32:15
  the fasting. The fasting.
• 32:17
  Everybody says, what do you get the most benefit from when you're doing all
• 32:21
  these modalities? Because I've done pretty much every modality out there. Mm-hmm.
• 32:25
  So I'm looking up what is the benefit of water testing.
• 32:28
  Water testing? Oh, my gosh. There's tons of benefits. Anyway,
• 32:31
  so my ALT, you did ask for this.
• 32:34
  So the ALT is supposed to be below 32%.
• 32:38
  Okay. Mine is down in the 50 range now. My AST is supposed to be between 8 and 33.
• 32:45
  Mine is down into the 50 range as well.
• 32:48
  My alkaline phosphatase, that is supposed to be below one, between 44 and 147.
• 32:55
  Mine's down to five in the 500s now.
• 32:57
  44 is actually the best right around that range. And I don't remember my gamma,
• 33:02
  but my bilirubin is back to normal below 1.1 or something like that.
• 33:06
  But my cholesterol, my bad cholesterol is still a little high,
• 33:10
  but my total cholesterol is fine.
• 33:12
  And all my blood markers, I don't have any shines of diabetes or anything like
• 33:16
  that, probably because I fast. Because you're fast. That's one of the benefits.
• 33:20
  So there was actually a study done that if somebody fasted for 21 days straight
• 33:24
  on water, that type 2 diabetes goes away. Type 2 diabetes goes away.
• 33:27
  That's what they said, yes.
• 33:28
  Now, this is not medical advice. Right. This is from your own life experience.
• 33:33
  This is from my own experience. When you water fast for over five days,
• 33:36
  you really need to be supervised or your blood works run.
• 33:40
  And I have a doctor that will supervise my longer fast. And you also need to take electrolytes.
• 33:45
  And I do take a multivitamin as well. But the electrolytes are crucial after
• 33:50
  day four, day five, somewhere in there, depending on the person.
• 33:52
  Or you'll have an imbalance.
• 33:54
  Imbalance. Which is hard on your organs. And you don't want to do that.
• 33:57
  Oh, wow. It can be hard on your heart, too.
• 33:59
  And this is going to be a long journey for you. It's a long journey.
• 34:03
  Yeah. So my thought process is, okay, so I detox the liver. I did that with the chelation.
• 34:08
  I've done that with many, many detoxes.
• 34:11
  I also do soft wave on my liver. Soft wave is a...
• 34:15
  Soft wave is a, I tell you, I got every modality I've tried.
• 34:19
  So soft wave is, it's high impact. It hurts. Oh, wow. It's a radio frequency, if I recall.
• 34:27
  And you had that done too? So I've been doing it on my joints,
• 34:31
  right, for a long time. It stimulates the body's natural healing.
• 34:35
  It does tissue regeneration, gets rid of pain, improves blood flow,
• 34:39
  and it triggers your own natural stem cell production.
• 34:43
  It's good for chronic pain, like plantar fasciitis. People do it on their feet a lot.
• 34:48
  Any injuries. So if you have like a, like I have a torn rotator cuff.
• 34:52
  Oh, one of the other complications of my disease is my ligaments tend to tear.
• 34:57
  Tear. I used to think it's because I was in gymnastics and that,
• 35:01
  you know, it's just because I was rough on my joints.
• 35:03
  One of the problems with PBC is that you tend to get tears and they take a long time to heal.
• 35:09
  I've done softway. I've also done PRP therapy, platelet-rich plasma,
• 35:13
  where they take your blood, they spin it down, and they stick it back in your joint.
• 35:17
  Because remember, I'm alternative here. I'm not doing the...
• 35:20
  Now, I heard a lot of those plasma, though, with the stem cell regenerate. Yeah.
• 35:24
  So that helps, too. And you can use stem cells, too, because I've done that,
• 35:28
  too. And I don't know why the insurance doesn't come with it. It's all new.
• 35:32
  Maybe they will. Maybe they will with the new administration.
• 35:35
  I don't know. We're doing a soft wave, which hasn't been done on an organ like
• 35:39
  this before, on my liver.
• 35:41
  And it's painful, you said? Not on my liver. It's painful on your joints when you have inflammation.
• 35:46
  It's sensitive. It's not really painful. I've done that too.
• 35:50
  You know, what's going to happen is somebody is going to want to say,
• 35:52
  okay, let's figure out exactly what she did to fix herself or to get better.
• 35:57
  And the problem is, is I think it's a combination of everything.
• 36:00
  Because what happens is you may get 5% better because of this modality.
• 36:03
  You get 10% better because you water fasted.
• 36:06
  You get 3% better because you did soft white.
• 36:09
  I get 15% better because I cleaned my blood with eboo. And I do all these different modalities.
• 36:15
  And what happens is each one makes you a little bit better.
• 36:18
  So none of them is the golden egg. It's not specific. I think we're looking for that pill, right?
• 36:24
  I know. The golden egg spill. You just take one pill and magically have fun.
• 36:28
  And it's all working together.
• 36:30
  So I don't think whatever you've done, you get a little bit of the combination
• 36:36
  of everything. You cannot pinpoint.
• 36:38
  No. It always works. And I can tell you which things make me feel better right
• 36:42
  after. I can tell you that.
• 36:44
  Like the eboo, I feel better right after. the within two to
• 36:47
  three days of water fasting my joints I can make you
• 36:50
  feel better yeah because with with pvc is
• 36:53
  your joints swell up it's almost like having arthritis
• 36:56
  too it's part of lupus as well yes I don't know if I have lupus so I have the
• 37:02
  indicators for lupus in my blood but pvc causes so much inflammation in your
• 37:08
  body that it can either trigger the same response as lupus or be a false positive for lupus.
• 37:15
  So I may have lupus. I may not. And as soon as the PBC goes away,
• 37:18
  my... Hopefully the lupus went away. The lupus should go away.
• 37:21
  They say there's no cure for PBC.
• 37:23
  They say there's no cure for lupus. And they say there's no cure for autoimmune hepatitis.
• 37:27
  But I'm trying to prove them wrong. They said only you could slow them down.
• 37:32
  They say you can go into remission or slow them down.
• 37:35
  I'm at the point where I am trying to get my liver back to a 16-year-old liver.
• 37:40
  And I'm in my 50s. I'm sorry for it. I know. I've also gone to some meditation places.
• 37:47
  I try to keep the stress low, even though I am kind of a higher functioning,
• 37:52
  stressful person. Just mentally, I'm always going, going.
• 37:56
  Now, you didn't say you've done better when you have a lot going on.
• 37:59
  When I have a lot going on, I do love to multitask.
• 38:02
  I do function better with a lot of stuff going on. As long as it's not an emotional
• 38:07
  stress, I think the divorce triggered it.
• 38:10
  Triggered it. It was probably a necessary thing that needed to happen.
• 38:13
  That's the most thing. Anything happened for a reason. It all happens.
• 38:16
  It all happens. And now you have time to take care of yourself.
• 38:20
  Here's the thing. If the divorce hadn't triggered it, something else would have.
• 38:23
  Something else would have. Or my liver may have still continued to get worse.
• 38:27
  Maybe I needed that massive trigger to say, hey, it's a wake-up call.
• 38:31
  Yeah, and none of this is genetic because all your family.
• 38:34
  No one in my family has it. But basically what I believe happened was there
• 38:40
  was damage caused from Clomid, but I was functioning and I was okay because
• 38:45
  my liver enzymes maintained.
• 38:47
  But just because your liver enzymes maintained doesn't mean that you're not
• 38:51
  still incurring damage.
• 38:52
  And then what happened was I had a trigger, which was an emotional trigger or
• 38:56
  trauma. It happens to a lot of people with autoimmune.
• 38:59
  They have some type of emotional massive trigger.
• 39:02
  It could be massive stress at work. It could be a loss of a child or a loss
• 39:06
  of a parent or a loss of a spouse or have something that happens,
• 39:10
  like maybe a friend gets cancer or something sets it off.
• 39:14
  Yeah. Now, I do know, personally, know a person that, I'm not,
• 39:18
  I cannot reveal her name, but they tried to get pregnant and she went on all
• 39:23
  this fertility treatment and caused her liver cancer. Well, here's the thing.
• 39:26
  If you get cirrhosis of the liver, you're much more likely to get liver cancer.
• 39:32
  Liver cancer. So she probably had some damage for the fertility treatments.
• 39:36
  Maybe it came from Clomid. It might have also come from the IVF because the
• 39:39
  IVF drugs are harder on your liver. Yes.
• 39:41
  I am so glad we talked about this today. I think everyone needs to hear this.
• 39:45
  They do. And if you're going to do fertility treatments, you need to be careful.
• 39:49
  Yes. And if you're doing fertility treatments, you need to make sure you're cleansing your liver.
• 39:53
  Yeah. Because your liver is important. See?
• 39:56
  Before you do any of that, you need to look at your own cell symptoms first. Yeah.
• 40:00
  Well, I didn't have any symptoms before the Clomid and my liver enzymes were functioning fine.
• 40:04
  So we're pretty sure the Clomid did damage. And then after that triggered the autoimmune.
• 40:10
  Then I had a choice. Yes. And for, I'd say maybe a day or two, I was sad.
• 40:17
  You know, when your doctor tells you you have cancer or an autoimmune or a heart
• 40:23
  disease and you need a heart transplant or something. Yeah.
• 40:25
  It smacks you down. It smacks you down. And they always tell you the worst case scenario. They do.
• 40:31
  That's happened to me. I had to take, when my son was seven months old and they
• 40:35
  found a lump on my right breast. Yeah. They tell you the worst.
• 40:38
  They do. I think they do it for- I remember crying every night. To prepare you.
• 40:41
  Yeah. I think they do it for liability reasons from an insurance perspective,
• 40:46
  but they tell you and it knocks you down. Yes.
• 40:49
  So it knocked me down for a day or two. But you know, the one thing about the
• 40:52
  divorce I can say is when I get knocked down, I get up a lot faster.
• 40:55
  Now. That is so true. You become very stronger. You do.
• 40:58
  I was like, okay, well, I could go about it two ways. I could sit here and take
• 41:01
  it or I could figure it out because I'm a big problem solver.
• 41:05
  And I think that there are no problems without solutions.
• 41:08
  You've done very well. Yes. And not just the road to recovery.
• 41:12
  Yes. I believe that everything has a solution.
• 41:16
  There's nothing in life that can't be solved. Now,
• 41:20
  whether people have the mentality or whether
• 41:22
  people have the the drive to solve the problem that's
• 41:26
  a different story different story but if you have the drive and
• 41:29
  the ability to just always keep searching for
• 41:32
  the solution even when you get knocked out i there i'm sure there are some of
• 41:36
  the modalities i've tried that got me no closer to the solution but you find
• 41:40
  a solution but i keep going for the solution you gotta keep going yeah no matter
• 41:45
  what because i have the biggest freaking why in the world and that's my two
• 41:49
  beautiful children Yes, you are.
• 41:51
  And the beautiful life. I want to make sure I'm the one that raises them because
• 41:54
  we have a wonderful life together. Yes. So I have a huge why.
• 41:59
  But even though, everybody should have a huge why. Everybody should.
• 42:04
  But you got to find it. You have to find it. Yes. I will say that when I was
• 42:08
  married, my why was my ex-husband.
• 42:11
  I did a lot of stuff for him. I ran businesses. I ran companies.
• 42:14
  And when we got divorced, I felt like I lost part of my purpose.
• 42:18
  Lost your purpose. I kind of find it's a new purpose.
• 42:21
  I kind of find the autoimmune gave me a new purpose.
• 42:23
  Yeah. And the reality is, is if I can cure myself, I can help other people cure
• 42:28
  themselves. You should totally write the books about it.
• 42:31
  I would definitely will be the first one who bought.
• 42:34
  Well, and here's the thing. I'm so glad we talked about this today.
• 42:37
  And one of the other things I do is, so autoimmune and cancer are very similar.
• 42:42
  They're all kind of triggered by sugar and oxygen helps
• 42:45
  them but they're very similar so i also have
• 42:48
  done some modalities that are good to help people with
• 42:51
  cancer like there's different herbs you can take there's even herbs you can
• 42:54
  bathe in because your skin helps too so a lot of the things i'm doing also help
• 43:00
  people with cancer yes if i do put a book together it will help people with
• 43:05
  other types of autoimmune not just pbc that is It will also help people with cancer.
• 43:10
  And a lot of these things, skin conditions. Your hair.
• 43:15
  Yeah. So a lot of these things I've done, even water fasting.
• 43:18
  Water fasting has been showed to kill cancer cells. So now, are you going to
• 43:22
  get cured from it? Maybe. Maybe not.
• 43:25
  But long term. Now, this is not intermittent fasting. And this is not for the faint of heart.
• 43:30
  And this is not for someone that doesn't have medical supervision.
• 43:33
  And your doctor will probably tell you you're crazy.
• 43:36
  Yeah. So you'd have to find a doctor that would actually supervise you.
• 43:39
  There's also a medical clinic in California. I don't know if it's still there
• 43:42
  after the fires, but that would supervise medical fasts for 40 days. They do?
• 43:48
  They do. And you actually go there and you do a water fast and they actually will supervise it.
• 43:54
  True North. That's what it's called. they will do long
• 43:57
  extended fast anywhere from 14 to 40 days or
• 44:00
  possibly longer of water fasting and
• 44:03
  they basically they run they do your labs they check on
• 44:06
  you every day you have you need to exercise a little on the water fast now you're
• 44:11
  not going to go run a mile yeah but you do need to walk and you do need to get
• 44:16
  some exercise when you're fasting because you need to meet keep things flowing
• 44:20
  flowing so water fasting i think it actually goes for all your organs Yes.
• 44:25
  It's good for everything. Not just for the liver. Well, it's going to get rid
• 44:28
  of bad cells on everything. Yes.
• 44:30
  The other thing I do is I do coffee colonics. What is that? Or coffee enemas.
• 44:34
  It's where you flush your bowels with coffee. Coffee is supposed to be good
• 44:38
  when you do a coffee enema for your liver.
• 44:40
  Like drinking coffee? No, no, no. You go in the backside. Oh, in the backside.
• 44:44
  Yeah, I do those daily. So it helps because when you're water fasting as well,
• 44:48
  you're not going to flow. Coffee enemas do help clean out your colon.
• 44:53
  I also do probiotics and prebiotics, so I should mention that.
• 44:57
  And there's a ton of other modalities that I do and I've tried.
• 45:01
  And the list of supplements are amazing.
• 45:05
  I put this collagen powder that they sell from Costco in my coffee every morning.
• 45:09
  Now, I don't know if it's in my head or not. I've been taking it forever.
• 45:13
  But I notice it like every now, I'm too lazy to go get it.
• 45:17
  About a week later, something, I think it's in my head. Well, no.
• 45:21
  Collagen is actually a protein that's good for your skin. Yeah. I do colostrum.
• 45:26
  So do you know what colostrum is? So colostrum, they're not taking it from humans,
• 45:31
  but the colostrum is that clear substance that comes out of your nipples when you have a baby.
• 45:37
  You know what I'm talking about? When you first have a baby,
• 45:39
  the first day or two, you're not making milk.
• 45:41
  Right, right, right. Oh, that clear. That clear liquid. So colostrum is actually
• 45:45
  from beef, I mean, from cows that they make and they powder it and it helps with gut biome healing.
• 45:52
  Oh, wow. You know what? Funny you say that. So when I have my son,
• 45:56
  it's been saved for years and years in our Asian tradition.
• 46:00
  When the baby have that, you know, eyes, boogers and stuff, they put the milk
• 46:05
  breast milk. Oh, they put it in their eyes. Oh, their eyes.
• 46:08
  Yes, that helps that too. That helps. Because it's a probiotic. Yeah.
• 46:12
  And it helps with healing. It's a very natural thing. Very natural.
• 46:16
  And colostrums, I don't know if it's working or not, but you can't really tell
• 46:19
  about your gut biome. Hopefully I have less food allergies.
• 46:22
  Oh, one of the other things is I'm allergic to all kinds of food.
• 46:25
  I'm allergic to chicken.
• 46:27
  You're allergic to chicken? I'm allergic to beef. I can eat eggs.
• 46:30
  So like chicken, I really think the chicken thing is because they put so many
• 46:34
  antibiotics and so many steroids and hormones into chicken.
• 46:37
  Can I eat grass? I've tried organic and I still have a reaction.
• 46:42
  But you don't realize that, you know, when you're eating chicken with antibiotics
• 46:45
  in it, you're getting those antibiotics too.
• 46:47
  Your body fighting it. my body doesn't like things that aren't natural and pure.
• 46:51
  You are very expensive lady. I'm a very, very expensive woman.
• 46:55
  And I'm doing it all on my own.
• 46:59
  Hopefully this doesn't scare anyone away, but she could do it on her own.
• 47:03
  Yeah. You could do it on your own. Yeah.
• 47:05
  What the reality is, is I'm hopefully going to narrow it down to just 10,
• 47:09
  15 things you need to do. Right.
• 47:11
  That will help people with cancer, people with autoimmune, people with rheumatoid
• 47:17
  arthritis or osteoarthritis because a lot of this hurts your joints.
• 47:22
  So a lot of these things you can do will help with that too. And you never know.
• 47:27
  I know I have arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, but I don't. I bet the EBU would help with that.
• 47:33
  An anti-inflammatory diet would help with that.
• 47:36
  And fasting would totally help with that because there's documented evidence
• 47:39
  on fasting. There is the fasting diet.
• 47:42
  And actually, my doctor recommended fasting and the turmeric. But I take turmeric.
• 47:48
  I take daily multivitamins. But I think one thing it helps most when I lost weight. Yes.
• 47:56
  But it's not cute. And you know what I noticed now?
• 48:00
  The day that cold, rainy day and my joy extra hurt.
• 48:05
  You know, besides all of that, I start going to sauna.
• 48:08
  I start doing this. But I've been doing it for the past seven years.
• 48:12
  Do you sweat during it? I sweat a lot.
• 48:14
  Well, here's the thing. We detox through our skin too, right?
• 48:18
  I think that's what we make it.
• 48:20
  I think the sweating, it makes a bit, the sauna, the heated yoga.
• 48:24
  But do you know what I think? I'm going to try the water fast.
• 48:28
  I wish I could do. You need to start somewhere.
• 48:30
  Maybe you stop eating at noon and you don't eat until noon the next day. That's a 24-hour fast.
• 48:36
  That's a 24-hour fast. But my problem is when I get out, I heat up everything in the fridge.
• 48:42
  That's a habit. Yeah, I think so, too. Maybe I should not keep anything.
• 48:46
  Here's the thing. Insulin is also a hormone that's very inflammatory.
• 48:49
  And every time you eat, you trigger an insulin response. So you're creating
• 48:54
  inflammation every time you eat.
• 48:55
  So if you've got an autoimmune, you're triggering every time you eat,
• 48:59
  you're going to trigger an insulin response.
• 49:01
  So people that snack throughout the day, people that eat three meals or more
• 49:06
  a day, they're having insulin response throughout the whole day.
• 49:09
  And that is going to cause inflammation in your whole body all day long.
• 49:13
  If you can do nothing else, OMAD, which is called, it's a version of intermittent
• 49:18
  fasting. It's for one meal a day.
• 49:21
  OMAD will decrease your insulin response, which will help with inflammation.
• 49:25
  And that's just eating one meal a day.
• 49:26
  Because of the way the human body is, it would be best if you had a lunch instead of dinner.
• 49:31
  Because if you take, if you eat late at night, it's going to sit in your stomach.
• 49:36
  It's not going to process very quickly. and it's just going to cause inflammation too.
• 49:40
  So if you're going to do OMAD, do an OMAD with lunch. With lunch. Skip breakfast.
• 49:45
  Eat lunch. And then don't eat again until the next day. And that's,
• 49:48
  you know, a 24-hour fast.
• 49:50
  Lunch to lunch is a 24-hour fast. Another thing is a sugar fast. They say sugar is bad.
• 49:55
  Sugar fast is not a fast because you're still getting insulin from everything
• 49:59
  you eat. From everything you eat. It's not a fast. That's a reduction of an item.
• 50:03
  Fasting, as fasting is, is not taking anything in. okay the only now there's dry fasting too,
• 50:10
  One day of dry fasting is as good as three days of water fasting.
• 50:14
  Now you're not going to dry fast for more than a day or two.
• 50:16
  Most people will never do more than a day or two.
• 50:19
  But a dry fast is when you don't drink any water. Nothing at all.
• 50:22
  You don't take any food in. You don't have anything coming into your system all day long.
• 50:27
  Now I have done dry fasting for a day. I don't do more than a day,
• 50:30
  but I will say the inflammation goes away very quickly.
• 50:34
  And the reality is you're not really getting into autophagy,
• 50:36
  which is what I have to have for my autoimmune.
• 50:39
  My idea is I cleanse it. I autophagy. Basically, I eat away at the bad cells around my liver. Okay.
• 50:46
  And then I rebuild the liver. And it's like a cyclical thing for me because
• 50:51
  I've got so much scar tissue that I have to keep doing it. Uh-huh.
• 50:55
  And hopefully, as it regenerates, it'll regenerate a healthy liver.
• 50:58
  And that's my logical thought process.
• 51:01
  I don't know if my logic and reasoning is sound or not, but I soon will find out.
• 51:05
  Yeah. If I can get my liver enzymes back to normal and my liver's no more cirrhosis
• 51:10
  on the liver at all and the scar tissue goes away, then I will have succeeded.
• 51:14
  That's my measure of success. And I'll have to do another biopsy.
• 51:17
  And I'm waiting until I get liver enzymes back to normal because I'm going to get them there.
• 51:20
  Once I get there, I will do another biopsy. And if my liver no longer has cirrhosis,
• 51:24
  I basically will have cured myself.
• 51:26
  Will cure yourself. You don't get to autophagy from fasting until three days in, two to three days in.
• 51:32
  I have to have a minimum of a three-day fast. Fast.
• 51:35
  To get to autophagy and your first two days are the
• 51:38
  worst so your first two days when you water fast back
• 51:41
  to back okay you're gonna have headaches you're gonna
• 51:44
  feel like crap crap it shouldn't be a day that you have stress in fact i've
• 51:48
  started fast and had to stop when stressful stuff happened because you have
• 51:52
  to be in a mental headspace to start okay the nice thing is is by day three
• 51:56
  you don't even want to eat by day three you're like i got this by day three you got energy again.
• 52:02
  I'm pretty cocky by day three, I will say. I am health happy.
• 52:06
  I'm healthy. I feel amazing.
• 52:08
  And I know this wasn't about water fasting, but since it's the modality that
• 52:12
  I do get the most benefit from, that's why I'm staying on it.
• 52:16
  But by day three, I'm fine. So if you can make it to day three,
• 52:19
  you can make it to day five. Day five. It's no problem.
• 52:21
  So when do you add electrolyte in that day?
• 52:24
  I do day four now because I find that I do deplete my electrolytes sooner than
• 52:29
  I used to add it at day five. And sometimes if I don't feel well,
• 52:32
  I'll even add it at day three.
• 52:33
  But I also feel really crappy the first day. And by day two, I feel fine.
• 52:38
  So because I've done so many fasts, I feel better. You know, and I've lost pounds.
• 52:44
  You have. That's something that, you know, over the course of this time frame,
• 52:49
  I mean, and I've kept it off. It's not like it's come back.
• 52:51
  Yeah. That's the other thing with water fasting. And my skin looks better.
• 52:55
  Your skin will clear up. It might look worse in the beginning,
• 52:58
  especially if you're doing a long, prolonged fast.
• 53:00
  Usually between day three and seven, I will find my, I get a few breakouts here
• 53:05
  and there, but then by day seven, it looks amazing.
• 53:07
  And everyone says I look young for my age because I'm 52 and people think I'm
• 53:11
  in my thirties or late thirties or early forties.
• 53:13
  And it's because of, I believe the water fasting and I have more energy.
• 53:18
  You have clarity of thought.
• 53:20
  It's been shown to help people with Alzheimer's and dementia.
• 53:24
  It helps with autophagy. It helps with inflammation.
• 53:27
  People used to fast all the time. Now, I'm not telling anybody to go on a 40-day
• 53:31
  water fast because that's a very big thing. You have to start.
• 53:34
  You have to start somewhere. Yeah. But you get a lot of the benefits by a five-day fast.
• 53:39
  Just a five-day? Just a five-day. And you could do five days once a quarter.
• 53:43
  That is true. And I would recommend doing blood work before and then blood work after.
• 53:49
  So you can see if you've got high blood pressure, it fixes high blood pressure.
• 53:53
  Now, if you have low blood pressure like me, you got to be careful.
• 53:56
  And that's why the electrolytes are important because I have low blood pressure anyway.
• 54:01
  I think everyone, you know, there's type one diabetes, which you shouldn't be
• 54:04
  fasting unless your doctor's supervising stuff.
• 54:06
  There's certain things and reasons why you can't.
• 54:10
  But if you're a healthy person, I really believe that if you fast,
• 54:15
  you're going to preemptively take out a lot of problems that are coming in the future.
• 54:19
  Yeah. I've heard a lot about fasting. Fasting is big.
• 54:23
  And then, you know, by the end of the second day, you're in autophagy.
• 54:26
  And you're clearing out the crap.
• 54:29
  It also helps detox you. And so you're getting rid of all the waste that builds up in your body.
• 54:34
  Yeah. All the water that you drink will flush it all. You flush out a lot of stuff, a lot of toxins.
• 54:40
  But they say after you fast, like day five, after a certain time of fast,
• 54:45
  You don't even want to, when you break your fast, what do you eat?
• 54:49
  So you would come back with protein. Okay. And actually, I usually come back with broth.
• 54:54
  And when you come back, it's like on a 40-day fast, you're refeeding for 20
• 54:59
  days. For 20 days. You're each day introducing a little bit more,
• 55:02
  and you're slowly reintroducing food. You can't shock your body back.
• 55:06
  Yeah. Breaking the fast is more important than the fast because you can actually
• 55:10
  cause trauma to your organs if you break it in the wrong way.
• 55:13
  And you really need to do your research first.
• 55:16
  Yeah. And then there's eboo, and it's like a dialysis where it cleans your blood.
• 55:20
  And eboo has been very beneficial to me. I feel amazed, like my inflammation
• 55:26
  goes away while I'm having Eboo done.
• 55:28
  So it's about an hour, hour and
• 55:30
  a half long process, and they just take a liter or two liters of blood.
• 55:34
  And at the same time, it's cleaned and filtered. At the same time,
• 55:38
  it's going back in. It's got ozone and oxygen.
• 55:41
  Yeah. So it really does clean the blood, and you feel better.
• 55:45
  You take blood off, filter it, and put it back in. Yes. So it's expensive.
• 55:49
  If I had the money, I would do it every week, though.
• 55:51
  You would? I would, because you do get a very big feeling of improvement.
• 55:56
  I do think that helps my liver. That is crucial for PBC.
• 55:59
  Now, if you have a different autoimmune, it may not be as necessary.
• 56:03
  But with eBoo, for your liver, it's a good detox. And then now there's other places, too.
• 56:09
  Some of them are in Mexico, like Hope for Cancer and places like that,
• 56:14
  that help with detoxing. And then they'll put you on juice fasts,
• 56:17
  where all you do is juice for 30 days or 45 days or whatnot.
• 56:23
  Juicing is becoming a big thing. And a lot of people do that.
• 56:26
  However, you're still getting sugar.
• 56:28
  Your body's still processing nutrients because you've got to re-nutrient your body.
• 56:33
  And I'm re-juvenating it with organic, clean food.
• 56:37
  And I don't know how many times I'm going to have to do these longer-term fasts.
• 56:40
  This is my last 40-day because I don't have enough fat left to do a long-term
• 56:44
  one after this. but I'll do a seven or a 14 day after this.
• 56:47
  You do use a little bit of muscle after day five.
• 56:50
  You're going to break down some muscle. And here's the thing,
• 56:52
  you're breaking down the parts of the muscle that are probably bad first.
• 56:55
  When I'm at 25% body fat, I can do like a five day.
• 57:01
  But you can't do a 40 day water fast and only have 25% body fat because what
• 57:06
  will happen, once your body gets rid of all the bad stuff, it'll start going after your muscle.
• 57:11
  And then And once it's done with going after your muscle, it'll go after organs.
• 57:14
  Now, I need a little bit of that because I need it to go after my liver,
• 57:17
  the bad parts. But I don't want it to go after the good parts.
• 57:21
  Right. So that's a facility for you to do this. Yes. You can go to True North
• 57:25
  and get medically supervised if you have the time and money to go and get medically
• 57:31
  supervised. And there are people with cancers.
• 57:33
  And there are people with type 2 diabetes that will go there.
• 57:36
  And there's people with autoimmunes.
• 57:37
  Now, it's not a cure. It might be. You never know. But it may not be.
• 57:42
  You may still want to go other avenues at the same time. You need to talk to
• 57:46
  your doctor. Yeah. Because everybody's situation is different.
• 57:49
  And everybody's chemistry is different. Yeah. Now, whatever you do, you...
• 57:53
  Side by side, you have doctors. You see a lot of doctors. You do. I see so many doctors.
• 57:58
  You see so many doctors. I've had so many doctors. And I can't do prednisone.
• 58:01
  I can't do a lot of those other drugs, too. I have reactions to that for,
• 58:05
  like, my shoulders and my knees and my joints. I can't do any of that stuff.
• 58:08
  So I just look for the natural alternative to everything.
• 58:12
  Yes. I do. Like, if I get inflammation, you know, I go Arnica.
• 58:16
  I put Arnica on it, you know, like if I get a bruise or if my knee hurts.
• 58:20
  There's just a lot of natural things you can do. And we are blessed.
• 58:24
  And I am so grateful that we live in today's society because there's so much you can do.
• 58:30
  The other problem I find is you got to be careful with the supplementation.
• 58:35
  People say, oh, milk thistle is good for your liver. But you need milk thistle
• 58:39
  with like some other cocktails too.
• 58:41
  Vitamin D is great for your liver. But you also need vitamin K and zinc.
• 58:45
  And, you know, there's other things you need to take with them in order to make
• 58:50
  them active. We need extra vitamin D when we have autoimmunes,
• 58:53
  right? Because we don't process.
• 58:55
  When you're having autoimmune, you might need way more vitamin D than that normal
• 58:59
  recommended allowance because we don't process things the same way. And it's a whole.
• 59:04
  And the reality is I'm actually looking forward to AI because I truly believe
• 59:08
  that AI is going to be able to take some of the data that we collect. You collect.
• 59:14
  And sift through and say this would trigger this and this and this.
• 59:19
  I think AI is going to look at the body more as a whole, whereas a lot of medical
• 59:23
  specialists look at the body as individual parts.
• 59:26
  Right. Same thing with supplements. They look at the body as individual parts. Let me fix the liver.
• 59:32
  Well, ooh, you take that supplement, it's good for the liver,
• 59:34
  but it's hard on your kidneys.
• 59:35
  Or, ooh, you take that, but it might affect your heart. You know, it's funny.
• 59:39
  I had a doctor that they just looked at my cholesterol and they're like,
• 59:43
  oh, we need to put you on a statin.
• 59:45
  What is that? A statin is for, it's an anti-cholesterol drug.
• 59:48
  And a lot of people that go on it get type 2 diabetes.
• 59:52
  It's one of the side effects. It's so funny that the doctor didn't pay attention
• 59:56
  to my liver enzymes because statins are very hard on your liver.
• 1:00:00
  On your liver. With PBC, that would have been toxic.
• 1:00:02
  Yeah. Same thing with other pains. That would have been bad.
• 1:00:05
  Oh, painkillers. I never take painkillers. They always made me feel bad.
• 1:00:08
  They make my stomach feel bad. I get inflamed from them. You know,
• 1:00:11
  stuff that's supposed to make you anti-inflamed cause me inflammation.
• 1:00:14
  But, you know, it's funny because there are doctors, you know,
• 1:00:18
  and the funny thing was he ended up having a liver transplant.
• 1:00:21
  That doctor that tried to put me on a statin oh wow you
• 1:00:24
  should have known that take advice from him no so you
• 1:00:28
  know you got to be careful too and get second opinions
• 1:00:31
  if it doesn't make sense yeah because a lot of doctors push drugs and pills
• 1:00:37
  and they don't make sense you got to be your best advocate and i think we give
• 1:00:42
  up too much power we give up too much of our own power to a doctor and we don't do our own research.
• 1:00:50
  And if there's anything that hopefully I get across today is that there's alternative ways.
• 1:00:55
  There's Chinese medicine that it's really starting to come about.
• 1:00:58
  There's natural herbs. There's other things that will help. Now I'm not cured yet, but I will be.
• 1:01:05
  And I know I will be. And I
• 1:01:08
  pay attention to what results I get from the things that
• 1:01:10
  i do i know in my heart that i will be
• 1:01:13
  you will find the solution because that's what i do you have to be your own
• 1:01:17
  advocate because you can't give up your health to a doctor because they don't
• 1:01:21
  know you right you have to listen to your symptoms listen to your heart listen
• 1:01:26
  to your soul listen to your body listen to your and mental health affects your liver everything.
• 1:01:33
  Spiritual health affects your liver sexual health affects your
• 1:01:35
  liver oh that's a big part it's all affecting your
• 1:01:39
  liver yes and your relationships affect your
• 1:01:42
  liver because stress can trigger autoimmunes that is so true and it could it
• 1:01:47
  could trigger ms it could trigger lupus it can trigger all kinds of other problems
• 1:01:52
  so stress is huge it is it's a it's a chemical imbalance in the system and people
• 1:01:57
  don't realize it people don't that happened to my own mother Yes, yes.
• 1:02:01
  When my dad, so she lost both of her husband in sudden death.
• 1:02:06
  When my dad passed, my mom didn't talk for three years.
• 1:02:10
  And they don't know, back then she was very young. She was only in her 30s. Yeah.
• 1:02:15
  And it took her a long way to come out. And then she started keeping herself
• 1:02:18
  busy, but she just didn't talk. And my mom's really talking.
• 1:02:22
  And then the date goes on, move on, and she remarried again.
• 1:02:25
  Now my stepdad, he's like, I'll dare to her. There's people confused.
• 1:02:29
  We call him dad because he greatly raised us.
• 1:02:33
  He's also the MD. I don't know. But he is a doctor who cares.
• 1:02:38
  He does alternative stuff, basically. Yeah, he does alternative stuff.
• 1:02:42
  And he come back from the army. And the whole town talked about him.
• 1:02:45
  So anyway, my mom ended up marrying him. But, you know, he never looked at himself.
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  He died a massive heart attack. You know, they say doctors and nurses make the worst patients.
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  Yeah, it's so true. They don't take care of themselves. They're so busy caring for and taking.
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  And heads up to our doctors and nurses. I don't mean to slam the medical community.
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  I mean, you guys go through a lot.
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  They do go through a lot. But just like there's bad realtors,
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  there's bad truck drivers, there's bad managers.
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  There's some doctors out there that aren't the best. Yeah.
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  And on top of it, they might be a great doctor. They just don't know you.
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  So you still have to be your own advocate.
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  Yeah, but that's so true. But he lived till 85.
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  I never take, and I never see him take any doctor. the man eat the same thing,
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  same time, and take his vitamin daily, every day. Yeah.
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  After my stepdad passed again, my mom went through this shock.
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  And what the doctor said, that's how when she started her dementia.
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  The doctor said that both of the stress brought on her. The emotional stress brought on dementia.
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  Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, and she started blocking.
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  They said the stress that makes her block all of those stuff,
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  and now she is not working.
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  And her problem is stress. Yes. So if she reduces her stress,
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  so she's reducing the problem, not just the symptom.
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  I think a lot of the drugs today, they treat the symptom. They don't treat the
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  root cause or the problem.
• 1:04:10
  Yeah. They prolong your life. They don't necessarily give you a better life. Yeah.
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  And they prolong your disease. They don't necessarily cure the disease.
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  Now, there are some drugs out there that are great.
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  I choose to go the natural route. You may choose with PBC to follow your doctor and do Urso.
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  I just couldn't. It literally felt like my blood was acid. Acid.
• 1:04:32
  It felt like I was burning from the inside out.
• 1:04:35
  I had such a bad reaction to it. It was terrible. I went back and looked at
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  it. I was like, I had this reaction, this reaction.
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  I had heart palpitations. I felt like I was passing out.
• 1:04:45
  Literally was dizzy. I threw up. The first day I was rough. I had a headache. I felt itchy.
• 1:04:50
  I didn't feel good. I was like, this thing is supposed to help my liver.
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  It's making me more itchy.
• 1:04:53
  Took you three days to get over it? No, it took me three days for me to just
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  say, no way in hell. No way in hell.
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  And I was telling the doctor, I'm having these problems. Oh,
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  just keep trying. It should go away.
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  They don't know. You know, it's called practicing medicine, not knowledge of
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  medicine. Right, right. They don't know how you're going to react.
• 1:05:11
  We're like test subjects for a lot of these medications because everybody's
• 1:05:16
  biochemistry is different.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, it's so true. And so it may work for someone else.
• 1:05:22
  It just doesn't work for me. But it doesn't work for you, yes.
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  And I know what works for me. And I prefer to go a natural route.
• 1:05:28
  Other people may be fine doing the pharmaceutical route and they may have a
• 1:05:31
  long, healthy life. And it's cheaper.
• 1:05:34
  Definitely cheaper. Well, the Urso is not cheap and some of the other FDA drugs,
• 1:05:38
  they're not cheap. That's not necessarily cheap, though, but because insurance
• 1:05:41
  pays for it. Well, and here's the other thing, too.
• 1:05:43
  I think you pay for it in destruction of your other organs. Doesn't matter,
• 1:05:47
  yeah. Because Urso is hard on your kidneys.
• 1:05:49
  You do some of these pharmaceuticals, it may fix one organ. Like I said, they look at it as a car.
• 1:05:55
  You break down one organ, you fix one organ, but you break down another one. Yeah.
• 1:05:59
  You know, just like the statin. You may fix your cholesterol,
• 1:06:02
  but now you have type 2 diabetes.
• 1:06:03
  There's just different. Every drug has a side effect.
• 1:06:07
  And different for everybody. There is a drug that I've taken that I didn't have a side effect to.
• 1:06:12
  So it's called cholestyramine. I've learned a lot today. You have.
• 1:06:17
  So it's an anti-cholesterol drug. But one of the side effects is it binds to
• 1:06:24
  liver bile and helps you process it out.
• 1:06:27
  So it's an off-book cholestyramine. It's used for high cholesterol in the blood.
• 1:06:32
  So it does help me with my cholesterol.
• 1:06:34
  But, you know, I don't really care about my cholesterol, honestly,
• 1:06:37
  because once my liver is fixed, my cholesterol will go down.
• 1:06:40
  Because as my liver has been healing, my cholesterol has been dropping.
• 1:06:43
  But one of the side effects of cholestyramine is that it binds to bile, not just cholesterol.
• 1:06:50
  So it binds to liver bile and helps you get rid of it. When you have a PBC,
• 1:06:54
  your liver bile kind of gets toxic and stagnant. So when you can release it,
• 1:06:59
  the cholesthyramine will help with the itching or the pruritus.
• 1:07:03
  So it's going to help you get rid of all of that itching. And that does help.
• 1:07:07
  Now, I don't take it all the time.
• 1:07:09
  I'll take it when the itching gets really bad and I can't sleep at night.
• 1:07:13
  It's a powder. And there's very, very few side effects.
• 1:07:16
  Thank God. Because if there were a lot of side effects, I'd have them all.
• 1:07:20
  But it's one of those things. So I'm not anti-pharmaceutical. Yeah.
• 1:07:25
  But I am anti-pharmaceuticals that have massive impacts on me.
• 1:07:29
  The certain one. Yeah. Because my liver doesn't process stuff out like other people's do. I'm clean.
• 1:07:35
  I eat very healthy. And I make sure that anything I put into my body is healthy.
• 1:07:41
  Yeah. I don't want any extra toxins. I don't want any added stress.
• 1:07:44
  So it's also a good thing I'm divorced because now I don't have the added stress of that.
• 1:07:48
  All of these things are actually positives because they all help me.
• 1:07:53
  I'm you know I'm getting the best shape of my life yeah my muscles are getting
• 1:07:58
  very powerful you guys you're gonna have to remember when you have a cancer
• 1:08:02
  or you have an autoimmune.
• 1:08:04
  Or any type of disease your mindset matters
• 1:08:08
  and your belief in what you
• 1:08:11
  can do matters yes you can't just say it
• 1:08:14
  you have to believe it to believe in it so I'm gonna end
• 1:08:17
  with that I think you've got to believe in yourself what you
• 1:08:20
  can do and you got to believe that anything's possible
• 1:08:23
  because it truly is yes and every problem has
• 1:08:26
  a solution now before we ending you said
• 1:08:29
  you're about to start your 40 days yes water fast
• 1:08:31
  again yes let's do that and then are you going to do your test before your 40
• 1:08:36
  days and then do another test because this means you know the reality is is
• 1:08:41
  in 40 days i might be done i might cure myself at the end of the 40 days because
• 1:08:46
  i in the 500s I'm almost back down to where I was pre-autoimmune,
• 1:08:51
  I might actually be able to get it back to normal.
• 1:08:54
  So that's what I'm hoping. If I don't, I'm going to keep trying. Keep going.
• 1:08:58
  I'm going to keep going. Yeah, let's stay tuned for that. Every improvement is a basic improvement.
• 1:09:03
  Okay, I'll come back in 45 days or so and give you an update and let you know
• 1:09:07
  how it went and tell you, hey, so this is.
• 1:09:11
  This is how what happened. And this is where my numbers were.
• 1:09:14
  And this is where my numbers are. And we'll go. And then I'll tell you if I
• 1:09:17
  get cured and when the book's coming.
• 1:09:20
  Yes. I know. I truly appreciate that you said your personal life,
• 1:09:24
  you know, health journeys.
• 1:09:25
  So I think this is going to help a lot of people. I hope it does.
• 1:09:30
  Yes. And, you know, they give you a number of years left or they have to give
• 1:09:35
  you the worst case scenario. I'll just realize that.
• 1:09:37
  I mean, I think it's a liability thing as well as they want to shock you so
• 1:09:42
  that you take it seriously.
• 1:09:44
  Because, you know, it's funny because when I went off the urso,
• 1:09:47
  my doctor's like, are you sure?
• 1:09:49
  He's like, you know what you have, right? He's like, this is an extremely serious
• 1:09:53
  autoimmune. And I go, I know.
• 1:09:56
  I said, I got this. Yeah. He goes, well, you know, it could get worse. I go, it won't.
• 1:10:01
  I go, I got this. Yeah. And I believe in myself and I believe in what I'm capable of.
• 1:10:07
  And I believe my body will heal itself if I just give it the tools it needs.
• 1:10:11
  Yes. So that's the route I took. Now, other people may want to do the urso and
• 1:10:16
  may follow everything their doctor says. And that's their choice. That's their choice.
• 1:10:20
  But my choice is to do a different route. So I'm just giving an alternative.
• 1:10:23
  It may work for you. It may not.
• 1:10:26
  You make your own choices and you be your own best advocate in life because
• 1:10:29
  you're the only one that can advocate for your health.
• 1:10:32
  Because no one cares as much about your health as you do.
• 1:10:35
  You know, after this episode, I have totally clear understanding about autoimmune.
• 1:10:41
  A lot of people do not understand.
• 1:10:44
  Autoimmune. A lot of people do not understand, and they don't take it seriously.
• 1:10:47
  Well, stress is a huge trigger. Yes.
• 1:10:50
  It causes inflammation based off of hormones, insulin, and other types of hormones
• 1:10:57
  in your body, thyroid hormones, things like that. It makes your body have a
• 1:11:01
  chemical breakdown, basically. So a chemical imbalance.
• 1:11:05
  And it's not normal to have the amount of stress that we have.
• 1:11:08
  And that's why triggers...
• 1:11:10
  It could be any trigger. Mine must happen to just be a divorce,
• 1:11:13
  but it could be any trigger that can trigger the autoimmune because it's a high
• 1:11:18
  amount of stress. It could be a lot of stress at work.
• 1:11:21
  It could have been that I was dealing with a major transaction that fell apart
• 1:11:26
  or dealing with any type of level.
• 1:11:29
  Any of those things could be a trigger and trigger your autoimmune.
• 1:11:33
  I really dug in deep and I dig in deeper every day and I learn more and more
• 1:11:38
  about it. hopefully I have helped someone today with something,
• 1:11:43
  even a little bit, that will help you make it a little easier on you.
• 1:11:46
  And the reality is you could still be on Urso and do some of these other modalities.
• 1:11:51
  Or you could be on whatever pharmaceuticals and do some of these other modalities.
• 1:11:55
  Just clear it with your doctor. And if your doctor doesn't know why he says no, ask him why.
• 1:12:00
  Like, can I do a sauna? And he says no. Say why.
• 1:12:04
  You know, ask your doctor why. because a lot of them aren't trained in nutrition.
• 1:12:09
  A lot of them aren't trained in how to deal with different types of alternative
• 1:12:14
  medicines and they dismiss them.
• 1:12:16
  Yes. But they don't know why. They just were never taught.
• 1:12:21
  It's like, you know what? If you take a kid that's never driven before,
• 1:12:24
  they're going to run into a freaking curve.
• 1:12:25
  But if you give them experience in one area, they now know how to drive the
• 1:12:29
  city streets, but they still can't get on the highway. Yes.
• 1:12:32
  Okay. So the doctor just may not know how to get on the highway yet and learn other solutions.
• 1:12:38
  There's other things out there
• 1:12:40
  that people don't know. And everybody's biochemistry, again, is different.
• 1:12:44
  But nonetheless, let's wrap up and let everybody go. And I hope that you learned
• 1:12:48
  something today. I hope that I can help.
• 1:12:50
  Feel free to stick a comment down below and ask questions. And if I don't know
• 1:12:54
  the answer, maybe I can point you in the right direction.
• 1:12:56
  Yeah. I am so glad you talked today. Yeah.
• 1:13:00
  Wonderful. And hopefully it helps other people with other autoimmunes as well. Yes, definitely.
• 1:13:05
  All right. Well, you guys have a wonderful week and we'll talk to you next week.
• 1:13:08
  Talk to you next week. See you soon. This is Diva Mia signing off.
• 1:13:12
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